yeah, its called cpu bottlenecking
#graphics-cards
sleek willow
AMD 5900x
naive flicker
you hsould be fine i think
keen nacelle
It will affect it to some extent but not too much
Youre def going to be cpu limited for games though
keen flax
What kinda oc did you do, I'm interested in doing a small oc on mine
sleek willow
Within the adrenaline software for AMD. I have these settings currently which seems to be stable and works well. I tried pushing the memory frequency higher with slightly worse results in the benchmarks. I am not an expert at all when it comes to this...
I have the Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT
keen flax
I have the Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT
Same
keen flax
Within the adrenaline software for AMD. I have these settings currently which se...
Thanks!
modest shuttle
Granted I didn't oc, but better performance than my card for $300 less. <Insert self harm joke here>
frank dagger
Corsair responded.
They said they'll want me to send the damaged part as well, regardless if its approved or not, they'll dispose of the item as well and not send it back...
So either i do get something equivalent or nothing at all.
Regardless im losing a Founders Edition peice
naive flicker
When will the b580 le be restocked on newegg
livid idol
None of us work for Newegg except the admins, and stock isn't their department
I know as much as you do probably
Possibly less because I haven't paid much attention to Arc
odd siren
We literally know most of the time after other normal people
They don't pay us, we don't get any special insight
naive flicker
Oh
hidden pawn
Hey guys need an opinion
With the recent 5070ti’s coming back in stock for $750ish, do you think it’s worth returning the 9070xt OC (gigabyte) I got for $729 + 6.5% tax to get one of those?
Feel like I overpaid for the card a lot
cerulean rover
With the recent 5070ti’s coming back in stock for $750ish, do you think it’s wor...
The 9070xt being a decent chunk over MSRP is unfortunate but it's still matching if not beating 5070ti depending on the game, it's not really worth it swapping it for a 5070ti, even if both were the same price.
The upside is you don't have to deal with any Nvidia jank rn
Whether that be missing rops, melting 12vhpwr, or drivers crashing
hidden pawn
Gotcha, appreciate it
To be fair I do suppose it’s one of the stronger ones
Considering it’s OC, get around 3100ish memory
cerulean rover
OC headroom on 9070xts is pretty nice
Although counterintuitively uv tends to make it draw more power
modest shuttle
With the recent 5070ti’s coming back in stock for $750ish, do you think it’s wor...
as someone who overpaid for a card and is now seeing cards that were $300 cheaper beat mine, you definitely want MSRP or as close to as possible
modest shuttle
5070 next to 3080
sleek willow
as someone who overpaid for a card and is now seeing cards that were $300 cheape...
I will say the 9070 XT is performing well, and I do enjoy it. However, I think my complaint right now would be with AMD's adrenaline software. It seems buggy and likes to close, freeze or restart on me. I never had any issues with the Nvidia software throughout my time of owning those cards. This is my first AMD experience though.
modest shuttle
I haven't done the new build yet but I can't even get afterburner to open anymore on my current machine, no idea why
sleek willow
I like your photo of the GPUs side by side. The new generation makes my old 3070 look small lol
modest shuttle
To confirm if I had all the ROPs I had to pull a radiator fan off just to fit it in the case
raven wharf
To confirm if I had all the ROPs I had to pull a radiator fan off just to fit it...
Damn you were not lying about the clearance 😭
modest shuttle
If I lay the card on my lower leg, its almost the same length from my knee to bottom of my foot
The case I am moving to is slightly larger and I will be top mounting the rad, so it should have a bit more clearance
sleek willow
Mine barely squeezed in as well
modest shuttle
about 3 inches if I measured correctly
Im also going to be attempting to vert mount the GPU, so I am curious to see how that works out
sleek willow
But my old ass tower has that section where you can install old style hard drives. I almost had to modify it. I need a new case for sure. This one is like 10 years old
modest shuttle
Yeah the case I have actually has that below the GPU and upper section
I didnt realize when I did this current build that the motherboard would be too thick for a top mounted rad, I am hoping the generous amount of space at the top of the new case will eliminate that
Should be much more headroom up there
sleek willow
That should be nice. I like having the radiator at the top
modest shuttle
mine will end up being very cookie cutter to a lot of builds but ive completely fallen in love with the asethetic
modest shuttle
I've actually seen a few people say they lost interest in this particular GPU once they saw how actually big it is
naive flicker
yk, only abt 1% of nvidia's income comes from consumer GPUs nowadays
i wonder what the chances are, if at all, that nvidia will kill off geforce this decade
sleek willow
I was wondering the same thing. Like, do they just quietly quit the market and leave it to AMD and Intel?
naive flicker
if so W
amd and intel could very well return the gpu market to being nbot horrific
sleek willow
Yea and I saw Intel is going to have a full production foundry for wafers to give TSMC competition this year. Intel 18A is what I was reading about
No idea if that helps our gamer market, but I like to think half full
naive flicker
i honestly really hoipe intel like actually makes it in the gpu scene
also, consider this: the better intel does, the more brands will partner with them
gigabyte+intel would be goated fr
keen nacelle
amd and intel could very well return the gpu market to being nbot horrific
False
Less competition on the market is worse for everyone
livid idol
i wonder what the chances are, if at all, that nvidia will kill off geforce this...
Zero chance. AI, despite the boom, is an unproven market and as things get more efficient, the bubble may burst. Gaming is a proven, stable market to fall back on when that happens.
naive flicker
yeah, who knows, ai might(maybe hopefully) just be a long phase
modest shuttle
AI isn't going anywhere lmao, it will eventually hit a ceiling but it's not going away, ever
naive flicker
: (
livid idol
It's definitely not going away but models are already becoming easier to run
So Nvidia won't be able to charge $25k per unit indefinitely
cold fox
AI isn't going anywhere lmao, it will eventually hit a ceiling but it's not goin...
It benefits no one
Except the ai itself
Once they’re mastered and become incredibly expensive, ppl will realize how niche it is
random walrus
AI benefits me every day 
cold fox
AI benefits me every day <:kekw:741678350791081994>
How so
random walrus
Great for coding, explaining concepts, idea generation, and research
cold fox
Except those can and most likely are flawed
random walrus
Anyone who thinks that either hasn't personally tried it for those uses or has only used gimped free models
I got a free year of Perplexity Pro via my internet provider and it's actually excellent
I will heavily consider paying for it once my year runs out
random walrus
Anyone who thinks that either hasn't personally tried it for those uses or has o...
Or doesn't know how to prompt well
naive flicker
Anyone who thinks that either hasn't personally tried it for those uses or has o...
I've used several, I just don't see the point besides asking questions Google couldn't really answer
cold fox
Anyone who thinks that either hasn't personally tried it for those uses or has o...
Both me and my dad think this, my dad is incredibly smart esp with technology
He has no credibility to you Ik that
livid idol
As long as you aren't making it do 100% of the work and you have half a brain, AI can be useful
cold fox
But I trust him 100% on technology
cold fox
As long as you aren't making it do 100% of the work and you have half a brain, A...
It’s only useful by itself when there’s a lot of hours and manpower put into specializing it, and that doesn’t work for everything
modest shuttle
It benefits no one
It benefits the companies using it and creating it immensely. AI saves me 5-10 hours of work per week
All the people denying ai are the ones who will be left behind. There's a reason they say jobs won't be replaced by ai, jobs will be replaced by people who know how to use ai
It's mega cope to think it's not going to change the world
cold fox
its a niche
cold fox
it "helps" no one but the ai model itself, or people who spend the hours and the effort to make a specialized model
modest shuttle
Keep telling yourself that, it's being used in organizations all over the world
cold fox
i will keep telling myself that becuase its true
modest shuttle
That's the beauty of opinions, everyone gets to have them. Those of us working in large IT organizations are seeing it make major changes already
cold fox
my dad works in major cybersecurity companies
he knows what hes talking about
ai is a hype bubble for normal consumers, it can work for major companies if they put the time and effort into a specialized model
modest shuttle
Yep, it can work for major companies, which is who are using it the most. Which is why its not going anywhere
modest shuttle
Anyone who thinks that either hasn't personally tried it for those uses or has o...
This is my experience as well the people denying it have no idea how to use it effectively. We have an enterprise license with copilot through Microsoft since are a Microsoft shop, it saves us so much time for certain things. Denying its usefulness is extremely naive
livid idol
its a niche
Sounds just like the New York Times in 1939 calling television a "passing fad" because the average American family wouldn't have time to watch it
cold fox
Sounds just like the New York Times in 1939 calling television a "passing fad" b...
AI will not be accessable for consumers once the major companies stop using normal people for learning
livid idol
"Television sets are too expensive"
cold fox
whatever you say
naive flicker
Sounds just like the New York Times in 1939 calling television a "passing fad" b...
They said the same thing abt the internet
livid idol
Yep, that's a more recent example
modest shuttle
I'm sure all the gains companies are making they'll just throw away
I have friends in their 60s and their doctors use AI to diagnose their medical tests, I'm sure doctors will just walk away from those tools
naive flicker
I have friends in their 60s and their doctors use AI to diagnose their medical t...
That's w tbh
modest shuttle
I'm sure the entire world of marketing changing overnight with the chat GPT update last night was just a fad
cold fox
I have friends in their 60s and their doctors use AI to diagnose their medical t...
if its a specialized AI specifically for that i can see the use in that
livid idol
There's inherent issues to using AI to diagnose, because it tends to overlook symptoms that would normally point to more rare conditions
Again, don't make it do all the work and it's a useful assistant
cold fox
well obv it should never be the only thing used
modest shuttle
The same way that the Internet completely changed how people learn and retain information will happen with AI ten times over
cold fox
what happens when AI gets smarter then us tho
modest shuttle
I can give it one prompt and do 5 hours of research in minutes, then I can focus on implementing solutions instead of spending hours combing through documentation
cold fox
Define "smarter"
able to do thing no human can do, and able to improve itself beyond the parameters we set
naive flicker
what happens when AI gets smarter then us tho
It won't, gray master will always surpass silicon in terms of training
livid idol
able to do thing no human can do, and able to improve itself beyond the paramete...
That already exists
modest shuttle
It won't, gray master will always surpass silicon in terms of training
Hence why anyone with a modicum of experience in the real world understands that ai won't replace most people, people will be replaced by someone who knows how to effectively use ai
livid idol
They put an AI into a robot, handed it a basketball, and it taught itself to shoot hoops
Having not been trained on that previously
modest shuttle
I can have chat GPT write me code to do something, but unless I know how to effectively use that code it's meaningless
livid idol
Just don't be this guy writing a program in a language he doesn't understand
modest shuttle
I don't write code, it was just an example. The main thing I use ai for at work is summarizing hundred page technical documents that I can digest in minutes instead of hours and refine as needed from there
I tried using ai to make an auto purchase script for GPUs, but because I didn't know how to actually implement the code, it was useless
But the smartest people I've ever worked with use it every day to save them time on things that would normally take hours, freeing up their bandwidth and time to focus on more important tasks. It enables people who know how to use it effectively
No company is ever walking away from that resource
modest shuttle
And the basic tasks it can do like uploading an extremely complex excel spreadsheet and giving it one prompt and making it a perfect document for whatever you need is an invaluable resource to saving time for people
livid idol
I think my personal favorite is when attorneys use it to write a brief or argument and it cites precedent and cases that don't exist lol
It's happened too many times now
modest shuttle
Yeah, it still has issues with stuff like that. That's why you have to know how to decipher the stuff it returns to you and how to refine prompts and write them perfectly or as close to as possible
If you ask it for something and don't proof read it or validate what it says, you're just asking for trouble
livid idol
Fact checking is and should always be required for any mission critical output it gives
modest shuttle
It's only going to get more insane once companies like Microsoft have nuclear reactors giving it unlimited power
livid idol
Yeah I saw that too. An entire reactor JUST for the AI farm
modest shuttle
Bill gates is starting one in Wyoming for the same purpose
livid idol
A city's worth of power
modest shuttle
Meta is looking for a reactor to use as well
These companies aren't going to spin up nuclear reactors for a fad or tech bubble
naive flicker
What do yall think are the implications of quantum computing when it comes to ai and vice versa
keen nacelle
yes
modest shuttle
I don't know enough about quantum computing to make an informed opinion. All I've heard is quantum computing going mainstream means security will never exist again
But I stay away from security because I'm not dealing with a never ending battle with a moving target
Everything is hackable and I don't want to think about that every day of my life
quasi flicker
It's only going to get more insane once companies like Microsoft have nuclear re...
Anyway, AI is generally really bad at writing code that's more than slightly complex, or even any that just uses moderately complex ideas.
Models will also hallucinate things into existence sometimes, use outdated information even if they have access to the internet, generally write things that don't work, and they also don't seem to understand interfaces much.
To be fair, their whole thing boils down to hallucinating things based on data fed to them.
random walrus
I mean, in that sense humans just hallucinate things base doff of things we've experienced/read/watched/learned
I've found Perplexity Pro to do an excellent job at using internet searches, though I typically do briefly check the source it's using
Ironically it was AI that really increased the amount of SEO slop articles out there and now I'm using a different AI to avoid the SEO slop
livid idol
What do yall think are the implications of quantum computing when it comes to ai...
We're still a long way away from that. We need a room temperature superconductor before it's remotely practical. So far we've only been able to observe quantum states at below 10 Kelvin iirc.
sacred cargo
Hey guys which 1440p GPUs should I be looking at now? Most demanding game I play is Tekken 8 and something older like Elden Ring
I currently have a 6600 paired with a 5800x
odd siren
Hey guys which 1440p GPUs should I be looking at now? Most demanding game I play...
9070/XT at sub 700
670 or lower ideally
9070 at like 620 or lower ideally
Since msrp isn't guaranteed
sacred cargo
gotcha
odd siren
5800X will mostly run that btw
You'll be on the limit of that cpu tho
And you will likely need a psu upgrade unless you have like some rm750x
Ideally 850W such as the A850GL is usually a reasonably priced pick
Or lian li 850 edge gold if you want nice cables
livid idol
elden ring
older
😭
sacred cargo
Haha only mentioned that cos UE5 is 'next gen' in my head
plush acorn
why does next gen automatically mean bad these days 
random walrus
Becuse UE5 kinda sucks
solemn panther
Truth
quasi flicker
Not really
Most of the problems are games that came out very soon after it did and used it without knowing much about it, and game companies not optimizing their game, which is basically the norm
UE5 is heavier yes, but it's not just bad. A game engine does not exist to do everything for you. Companies like to ignore that not everyone owns current or previous gen hardware, and don't make anything with that in mind because it costs money to spend time on optimization and testing, and people will buy it either way.
As an example, Fortnite's minimum requirement is only an HD 4000 or a Vega 8, and Satisfactory's minimum requirement is a 1650/1050 Ti or a 470/570 (this is still a bit high, but if you've seen the game you know why). Also, it might look like crap, but Fortnite can run on the Switch and runs pretty well on mobile.
Fortnite's minimum requirements have not changed since 2017, other than a storage increase and barring the fact that there was no AMD equivalent listed because the Vega 8 didn't exist then.
Companies are forgetting about their own proprietary engines because why would they use them when UE, Unity, and Source 2 exist? Why spend even more money keeping your own in-house engine when one already exists, and things can be developed relatively fast? Which then creates the issue of devs not understanding the engine because they understood the proprietary engine well and were told to move on to UE.
quasi flicker
I did mention Unity as one of the popular engines
It's more popular if you're solo or have a small team, doesn't mean it doesn't have the same "problem" though (actually needing to optimize)
junior locust
Gamers would need to abandon AAA games for publishers to realize they're screwing up
But until that happens, slop it is
Lately I only buy games that I know were a passion project for the dev(s)
naive flicker
Lately I only buy games that I know were a passion project for the dev(s)
Minecraft, in other words
Peak as heck tho
random walrus
Minecraft, in other words
Not anymore 💀💀 it's a cash cow for Microsoft lmao
naive flicker
One day imma buy it and make it what it used to be
livid idol
Lately I only buy games that I know were a passion project for the dev(s)
Forever Skies
I've been stuck on that one for a while. They're about to officially leave early access and do the 1.0 update.
It absolutely fits the "passion project from a small team" ideal and they love to listen to feedback from players for ideas on things to implement/fix
It's a lot like Raft but airborne
raven wharf
Do you know if they are going to make an updated list with Blackwell, rdna4, and battlemage?
odd siren
Ofc they will, just for now this is what's available
The alternative is like, 20 different HUB charts and I want to avoid that lmao
This chart is clear and pretty reliable for a quick reference
forest oasis
me and steviejoe also made some charts (based off of the data from techpowerup's benchmarks
odd siren
me and steviejoe also made some charts (based off of the data from techpowerup's...
If you can add the 9070/XT and the other 50 series, maybe even 20 series? I will pin that instead
Definitely just want something that is able to be relatively easily understood
forest oasis
2080ti is in the chart
i think the rest are below? idk
odd siren
Oh
Mb
Maybe just like, 5700XT then and 2070S
That would basically cover all of those old gens imo lol
1080Ti?
Those three all have close counterparts
5700XT ≈ 6600XT
1080 TI/2070S/2080 ≈ 3060
Believe the 2070S and 2080 are like, above and below the 1080TI by like a tiny bit lol
But yeah if you can do any of that I'll def pin it but not gonna force you to update anything, the current ones can do for the next couple weeks
Main thing is we have something there in case anyone is unsure
forest oasis
lmao i was looking for data elsewhere for the 5700xt and it's on the chart already
odd siren
I missed it again smh lol
forest oasis
If you can add the 9070/XT and the other 50 series, maybe even 20 series? I will...
5070(ti) and 9070(xt) was added
also shifted the intel one more to the right so it's easier to compare
link to SVG for closer viewing
raw data
forest oasis
this was the data i used 
odd siren
Ye it seems a little high
forest oasis
idk if tpu uses mfg for the tests?
odd siren
It's like just a notch above the 5080 but not halfway
forest oasis
it's a difference of 10fps
though my chart is in increments of 10 as well
so it probably just looks exaggerated
forest oasis
looking at the average fps, it's also by about that much according to tpu 🧐
i wonder why
odd siren
Is there a way you can like, notch it down 1
Lol
It's just it looks really not right
Especially when you look up 3dmark scores and the 5080 is barely ahead of the 4080S
forest oasis
making it "thinner" does kinda help but not much, lemme see if changing it to 20fps steps would help more 🧐
not really lmao
idk, im just gonna go sleep tbh lmao
odd siren
Alr lol
odd siren
5070(ti) and 9070(xt) was added
also shifted the intel one more to the right so...
I've pinned it for now, we can look at it later
junior locust
interesting
junior locust
9070 XT 1440p maxed settings RT is around 60 right?
odd siren
Idk
That's such a pie in the sky number lol
9070xt is effectively like a 7900xt with much better RT
junior locust
like as a "whole bunch of games" average
odd siren
Idk if it's 60 fps
junior locust
4070 Ti-level RT at 1440p for the most part?
odd siren
How I remember is a 3dmark average and peak score, and I recall each of those with rough recall to reviews
I do not remember fps numbers
7900xt would be like 4k75-ish? Probably lower now?
1440p....not sure
I can't remember the pixel rate difference
junior locust
I mean if you know roughly what sort of nGreedAI card's RT perf 9070 XTs do at 1440p maxed no PT, I'd be happ
odd siren
4070 Ti-level RT at 1440p for the most part?
Somewhere near there I think
Which is pretty damn close tbh
junior locust
that'd put it slightly better than XTX at 1440p RT
with no upscaling or FG crap
4080 would still be faster
at raster it'd lose by a good bit tho
4080 that is
odd siren
that'd put it slightly better than XTX at 1440p RT
It's a good bit better
It's a good bit better than xtx in rt
junior locust
Intriguing
odd siren
Raster for 9070xt and 7900xt is like a step short of 5070ti/4080/S
Xtx sits right between 4080 and 4090
But RT normalises all those way down
So heavy RT you end up with a pipeline bottleneck
Which you could think of it like
You know a cpu bottleneck?
Bit like that but specifically for heavier RT
It throttles the older gpus quite a bit
All gpus to a degree in general honestly
But that was the main focal point of 9000 series was to improve rt through fixing that bottleneck
Which is really what happened, you got a pretty serious generational RT leap from it
junior locust
so at the same price (roughly)
For raster the XTX would be better value
But for any sort of RT the 9070XT would be better value
though I can get a used XTX for cheaper more than likely
new price is very close for them (9070XT is very slightly cheaper)
but a used XTX can be a great buy still
360k for a used Hellhound XTX
410k for a brand new 9070 XT
428k for a brand new XTX
a used 4080 would fall to around 390k
@odd siren It's a kinda complicated equation when you have like 2 months wage on the line with a purchase
quasi flicker
Not anymore 💀💀 it's a cash cow for Microsoft lmao
I would say it still is for the devs, heck some of them made YouTube videos about game mechanics before being hired
The company is trash though, and they're all kind of getting screwed; tons of bureaucracy, the legal team picking and choosing what to enforce and when they're actually going to enforce it (gambling, weapons), etc.
The Marketplace technically breaks the EULA by allowing people to sell what Mojang calls "mods"
EULA and Usage Guidelines are the most vague legal documents I've ever seen on many things. Not as in vague wording to encompass lots of things, but vague as in no one has any idea whether or not it actually covers certain things.
You're allowed to sell cosmetics on servers, but not allowed to make money off of mods, does that mean that you can have cosmetics on your server but not in a mod? And then where's the enforcement for mods selling cosmetics if not?
naive flicker
The eula's trash, bedrock is trash, and the most recent updates are trash
This is a prime example of why so many people hate big business
keen nacelle
This is what late stage capitalism is
naive flicker
I'm all for capitalism, it provides an incentive for the people to do work, but this is, unfortunately, what that leads to
keen nacelle
Other forms of economy and government still provide incentive for people to work
naive flicker
I guess capitalism is more like the least bad solution
keen nacelle
Disagreed
naive flicker
?
junior locust
Other forms of economy and government still provide incentive for people to work
History don't really agree tbh
but that's all from me
forest oasis
capitalism is pretty much the most effective system for planetwide trade
other systems may work but only in a small community
at least looking at it historically, who knows, maybe someday some better solution comes up that will actually work
rich kettle
Any Newegg 5090 drops coming up
modest shuttle
I think there may be no scenario where I don't regret not waiting for a 9070, or end up there
naive flicker
yk, in my personal opinion, i think nvidia should've stuck with the 30/40 series cooler design for the 50 series
it had a lot of character and i kinda think it's a bit lost on the 50 series
junior locust
Arguably the 50 series cooler is the best nGreedAI made in at least 8 years
Most people seem to agree that 50 series coolers are looking better tbf
Personally to me 40 series with that wobbly-looking headass fan just feels like a toy
cerulean rover
looks wise I can't really comment on but 50 series cooler performance is very good if nothing else
the mythical 2 slot 5090 actually performs well
junior locust
That card is legitimately SFF-compatible WITHOUT throttling to hell and back
forest oasis
i like the 50 series cooler design more
well
i dont like how there's pretty much an internal riser cable to make it work
and also how much more effort it takes to teardown (for when you eventually need to repaste)
naive flicker
can someone delete all these
modest shuttle
a mod will when theyre around
solemn panther
yk, in my personal opinion, i think nvidia should've stuck with the 30/40 series...
The 50 series FE cards look better this gen
naive flicker
Chat what's yalls opinion on the sparkle titan oc
Also, how much of it can I spray paint without voiding the warranty
keen nacelle
Honestly purely depends on price
Can find a 6800 for $300-320ish used
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126747238247?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Which is miles better
keen nacelle
Ye ik
B580s are normally around 300 atm, unless you're lucky
And 6800 is a good 25% or so better, if not more
B580 is around an rx 7600 iirc
6800=7700xt
naive flicker
Yeah, but i do kinda want an all intel build
keen nacelle
I mean you do you, but I wouldnt spend money for a brands name
Especially when they have iffy drivers still
naive flicker
It make my brain happy
raven wharf
Can find a 6800 for $300-320ish used
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126747238247?mkci...
i found my model of 6950 on ebay once going for like 380-400 or something
that would of been a steal lol
reef leaf
Am I reading the current GPU market and generation correct and seeing right that there is really no reason for me to move from my 3090FE?
and I'll be...definetely repasting it from this
reef leaf
I'm running studio drivers
reef leaf
ye
reef leaf
Is...is there something I missed about it?
Is that....why I've been having crashes under load?
odd siren
reef leaf
thanks
reef leaf
Either way I should be repasting it, considering the idles
and the fact that I'm running it in my case for 2 years now and it's second hand from a VR arcade in a SLI setup
odd siren
Either way I should be repasting it, considering the idles
Always consider max, not idle
reef leaf
Always consider max, not idle
had to throttle it to stop peaking 100c on hotspot
odd siren
If your temps are under 95 at full power you don't need to even think about repaste
Ah welp that answers that then
Lol
reef leaf
They absolutely are not lmao
I had a gpu crash when under load as it got hot, I suspect, since there is not like, an error and it went away after I throttled it
odd siren
3090 runs stupid hot, but if you only have hotspot over 95 then go get some ptm7950 and put that on it
Hotspot over 105 would crash it
Ptm7950 will be the best chance at solving hotspot
reef leaf
I got Thermal Grizzly PTM on the way for the die, and gonna be replacing the Nvidia mystery pads with some Arctic TP3s
odd siren
Memory being over 95 tho, it's a fact of life
reef leaf
Hope I'll shimmy it down slightly with the replacement pads
From what I've read that's an element a lot of people have pointed to
odd siren
I got Thermal Grizzly PTM on the way for the die, and gonna be replacing the Nvi...
We normally suggest utp-8 cos it's the best vram treatment
reef leaf
couldn'T get it 
odd siren
Yes the pads being pads aids to bad contact
Putty however removes the contact issue
Cos you don't have pads pushing the cooler up at the sides
So the cooler can sit reallllyyyy flat
reef leaf
yeaaah nobody sells putty here and I ain't paying amazon markup and waiting two weeks
odd siren
Upsiren seems to have the best vram product rn
odd siren
yeaaah nobody sells putty here and I ain't paying amazon markup and waiting two ...
I mean considering you did just buy TG ptm instead of LTT or joyjom
reef leaf
odd siren
If you could find a used cheap alphacool aio kit for your gpu it's just putting on the waterblock
If that's any idea
On normal paste I went from almost throttling on a 3090 down to like 60-70C for all temps
I could run it at 670W on water
On air I'd be lucky to do that once in a benchmark without shutting down 
reef leaf
lmfao
I doubt I'd ever need a kilowatt of GPU perf for anything on my end
god damn it
odd siren
I mean more just fyi, if you want a proper fix still, I'd spend maybe 150 for a kit like that
reef leaf
I mean, yeah, but, so long as it stops taking off like a jet engine, and doesn't get hot enough to boil water at 100% power limit
odd siren
I mean, yeah, but, so long as it stops taking off like a jet engine, and doesn't...
It ran like 800 rpm fans on mine
reef leaf
then I'll be plenty happy
odd siren
Maybe even less
Ampere is really heat dense
Not the worst but it's quite up there on 3090
reef leaf
An aio would be tricky to plap in too, since I have a max size rad in my front case for my CPU aio and I doubt my meshify C can handle another one
solemn panther
Never getting ampere again. Cooked my room
odd siren
You could still do the gpu aio but you'd have a lot of wasted money on it
Cos you could run the cpu off the one 360mm
Not worth by then
solemn panther
I experienced this last night when I exited Marvel's rivals. Had to reset my PC
odd siren
I experienced this last night when I exited Marvel's rivals. Had to reset my PC
Oh no the 5080 is tainted
solemn panther
Drivers will fix it
reef leaf
Sorta becomes a redundant point by then
Yeah, what's funny though is it only crashed when I use ComfyUI, and not in gaming, between Helldivers2, the new Monster hunter and even Stalker2
fresh sun
Im getting 80c and 92-96 hotspot temp on my 6800xt, should i be worried?
im down to try an undervolt if anyone is willing to help
fresh sun
A lil hot
Well I don't know what to do about it
I have Radeon chill on assassins creed and that fixed the issue
fresh sun
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCvD4D/powercolor-fighter-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-...
Worth more to spend 100 bucks to buy a 9070xt
Just wait for reference cards
Not reference mb
MSRP cards
keen nacelle
Im getting 80c and 92-96 hotspot temp on my 6800xt, should i be worried?
Thats fairly normal but uv isn't a bad idea
#overclocking can prob help
fresh sun
I mean also my case is a pos
fresh sun
Thats fairly normal but uv isn't a bad idea
I did the auto undervolt but I'd like to do a proper one with someone who understands a bit more
keen nacelle
A case upgrade doesn't sound like a bad idea lol
fresh sun
A case upgrade doesn't sound like a bad idea lol
Can't really do one
nocturne marlin
Hey, anyone that can give me a good idea what I can get for this card? The TI in Founders doesn’t seem to common and I see ranges from $200-$600 and can’t tell what makes the difference. Barely used has plastic on the front still/box etc
keen nacelle
$100ish
nocturne marlin
Should mention I’m not in any rush to sell it just want to make sure I’m getting the right price for it to know what I can upgrade to.
keen nacelle
Ebay sold listings would give you a fair estimate
nocturne marlin
$100ish
Really? Are you sure you aren’t looking at non founders? Seems to be a difference
nocturne marlin
Ok weird, when I do that it shows mostly $200+ but I believe you
keen nacelle
nocturne marlin
Damn and not even credit for amazing condition. Booo
forest oasis
factory sealed in box would be worth more
open box, whatever condition has a pretty large depreciation in value
craggy pier
Factory seal has some oomph behind it, open box could hold any number of issues they might not know
random walrus
5700xt can be had for like $100 and beats the 1070ti easy. There's a little collectors value to an FE card in good condition but not that much
nocturne marlin
Trying to sell and maybe get another refurbished card for monster Hunter wilds, but want to maybe stay in the $3-400 range
craggy pier
"Need"
random walrus
"Need"
there are things (like Blender and genAI) that are still miles better on Nvidia
keen nacelle
Could probably find a 3080 12gb for this price, but this isn't bad https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-10g-p5-3897-kr/p/N82E16814487518T?Item=N82E16814487518T
craggy pier
there are things (like Blender and genAI) that are still miles better on Nvidia
this is true
although most people who get cards for more than gaming specify it as well
random walrus
oh I missed the MHW part whoops
frank dagger
Very dumb question...
Y'all think this'll boot or should i wait?
I ordered more pads but my dumb dumb thinks it could be okay for now.
Regardless, i would've ran out. Hence why i gave up on some diagonal cuts and some nvidia pads came out okay when i moved them out.
frank dagger
Ima jink it, i think it was a temp issue. Seems to not instacrash now
Still pretty hot memory though
frank dagger
it's workin now, ty all for the info and stuff.
holy poo, least it wasn't dying
odd siren
it's workin now, ty all for the info and stuff.
holy poo, least it wasn't dying
All problems gone??
frank dagger
seems like it!
odd siren
Just for my own info, this fixed the kernel 151?
frank dagger
did a bench for 30+ min and held out strong
yes, it turned out to be a memory heating problem i guess
frank dagger
indeed... especially since nvidia said those high temps were "normal"
frank dagger
ty for all the info. damn painful 5 years
odd siren
Explains why even shops couldn't help ya that is not expected behaviour
odd siren
ty for all the info. damn painful 5 years
I mean you really pioneered most of it tbh
We racked our brains for days, that truly was a complex issue
Reminds me of my gpu problem where everything tested stable but it kept crashing, turned out one of my pcie 8 pin extensions had so much droop it would shut down
I was stuck on that for like a freaking year
Lmao
What made it worse was I could replace every part and then it'd work again even with the extension 😂
Well I will remember that, and that is very odd as well
I know 3090s and 3080s that run 110 vram with no shut down
Maybe it's vendor specific
Either way very useful info
frank dagger
its the founders edition card, so nvidia
odd siren
Nvidia contract's FE cards to PNY
Firmware could be Nv or PNY tbh
On the other hand EVGA just seems to let their cards run at 110C like nothing's wrong
Asus doesn't
There's precedent for different behaviour there
Who knows
raven wharf
Nvidia contract's FE cards to PNY
i didnt know they did that i figured it was always just nvidia themselves
for rdna2 and 3 did amd make the reference cards or did they contract one of their aibs
odd siren
for rdna2 and 3 did amd make the reference cards or did they contract one of the...
Multiple aibs made them afaik
Mba amd.com was biostar (train wreck that was)
Others I believe were like sapphire or xfx, not sure
I know there was more than one
storm oracle
Is upgrading my 6700 xt to 7800 xt worth it or no
heady turtle
Is upgrading my 6700 xt to 7800 xt worth it or no
Honestly i wouldn't say it's a big enough upgrade
junior locust
Honestly i wouldn't say it's a big enough upgrade
Honestly disagree, 7800XT is basically a little better than a 6800XT and that's a big jump from the 6700XT (Source: I have a 6700XT)
heady turtle
Honestly disagree, 7800XT is basically a little better than a 6800XT and that's ...
Suppose it depends on what you qualify as a good upgrade, see to me if they were buying either of them now that's a different question but buying a whole new card for say 25% perf increase is not worth it imho
I can't remember the exact perf diff
junior locust
It's like 30%
Especially when you can resell your old card and only spend like
A hundred bucks
I think
heady turtle
Ehh I'd say a good bit more more like 200 I'd say
Also depends on the country it's quite hard to resell for good prices in some countries
Personal opinion anyway, i would want at least a 50% jump to be spending that amount of money
reef leaf
and I'll be...definetely repasting it from this
yeah that's a repaste even after downgrading the drivers 
quasi flicker
Seems like the pads might have been too thick
odd siren
yeah that's a repaste even after downgrading the drivers <:lmao:5860743948253265...
*pads too short
reef leaf
Nah I didn't get to do them yet
It's a card in my pc for two years now
And then it was used before that
It's just dry paste I feel
odd siren
Well 110 vram means one of the vram chips isn't fully covered
Whether by wear and tear or by repaste it's at the throttle point
Ideally it should be 80's to 90's
quasi flicker
*pads too short
If they're too thick heat also won't transfer to the cooler well, or the cooler won't even make good contact on other parts of the card
odd siren
If they're too thick heat also won't transfer to the cooler well, or the cooler ...
Yeah and that's why we recommend putty around here, no measuring required
In the instance that the above screenshot represented a repad, that would be what you'd see if pads are either not covering the vram properly or aren't contacting with the heatsink
naive flicker
chat what do yall think of the gunnir gpus
odd siren
Cool but expensive
frank dagger
Nevermind its back...
reef leaf
In the instance that the above screenshot represented a repad, that would be wha...
Oh no I didn't do that yet
frank dagger
Im taking corsairs compensation
reef leaf
yeah that's a repaste even after downgrading the drivers <:lmao:5860743948253265...
Like as in I'm still doing it lmao
boreal turret
cold fox
is this a good deal?
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-3-125-slot-Military-Grade-Compo...
No
Absolutely not
keen nacelle
is this a good deal?
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-3-125-slot-Military-Grade-Compo...
reef leaf
yeah that's a repaste even after downgrading the drivers <:lmao:5860743948253265...
The paste was drier than a nun's privates and the pads were a stringy pasta like cheese
I'm going to manifest a brain tumor and send it to NVIDIA headquarters ma'shallah, who the hell signed off on this
A workflow that would send me to the 100s on temp and 80-90 hotspot now sits comfortably here
and the god damned grizzly is yet to settle
What kind of profit margin insanity drives a company to put on their flagship product at flagship prices to the second highest grade card this kind of material to cool the thing they will know gets hot
earnest elbow
i looked at the 5080 graphics card and that thing is huge
odd siren
i looked at the 5080 graphics card and that thing is huge
Yeah they pre big man
reef leaf
Holy crap there was chunks of paste coming off
it was BLEAK
odd siren
A workflow that would send me to the 100s on temp and 80-90 hotspot now sits com...
That's an enormous change wtf
The vram being 80 is wild
reef leaf
That's an enormous change wtf
this is the highest it got to and I swear the clock was higher too. Fans didn't peak 50%, and it was running full throttle, generating AI pictures which pulls on the memory super hard for 45-ish minutes
reef leaf
for air cooling I sure think so
odd siren
Well it's also the small FE
And you're getting like, good aib temps lol
Solid result imo
reef leaf
The thermal grizzly sheet is yet to settle I think so core GPU die temps will get better I think by a smidge
but the fact I am not yet to peak 100c on memory is just
mindblowing
especially at 50% fan speed
and 100% power limit
reef leaf
I will forever be smug about how I got my 3090 for like 300 bucks
odd siren
I will forever be smug about how I got my 3090 for like 300 bucks
Damnnnn
earnest elbow
@odd siren would you buy the 5080
odd siren
You'll never beat that 🤣
earnest elbow
or wait on something better
odd siren
1100? I wouldn't
reef leaf
You'll never beat that 🤣
it was a lucky second hand buy from a closing down VR arcade that ran two 3090's in crossfire
odd siren
it was a lucky second hand buy from a closing down VR arcade that ran two 3090's...
Absolutely wild
reef leaf
Absolutely wild
honestly with the setup I haven in the case I have and like everything else, I doubt that I will need or even want to upgrade anything inside of this pc in like, the near/medium distance future
Especially with how the
50 series is looking
odd siren
50 series is a bonfire
Lmao
An afterthought of Nvidia tbh
40 series they still had genuine interest in consumers
Now as of 50 series we make up around 5% of their revenue
reef leaf
ughhh
odd siren
We're 2nd class citizens to them now
But hey
Good news
Radeon is quite good as of the last 2 years
reef leaf
Even the 40 series looked unappealing to me at the time
reef leaf
Radeon is quite good as of the last 2 years
I have heard! If I didn't need CUDA for AI I'd have been off the train for a while now
odd siren
And the 9070xt I can speak for myself is an excellent card. Ran day 1 zero issues
Yeah fr
3090s are the best ai bet for home use for value*
You're set for a while
reef leaf
For the forseeable future lmao
odd siren
Ye
reef leaf
honestly even doubt if CPU would be worth upgrading, but that'd be a mobo upgrade too and like
at that point
is it even worth it then
odd siren
5700x is solid
reef leaf
I think the only thing I would reasonably benefit from is faster ram, but like, at that point?
Ehhhh
odd siren
Not worth spending for any speed, just capacity really
reef leaf
I'm already sitting on 32gb so
odd siren
Yeah you wouldn't need more imo
What makes more sense is if you get more gpus, then more ram
Cos you'd go like threadripper then
reef leaf
yeeeah but then might as swell build ther whole thing from ground up with my AIO setup and all else
odd siren
I would only worry about it if you genuinely see a requirement to improve
Ye
You're sitting good rn
Healthy combo of a pc
reef leaf
and like, the things I do with my pc don't need more of anything, so lmao lol.
I hope to be proven wrong
that there is a genuine something in the future worth upgrading over
odd siren
Nvidia will likely bite back I feel
They don't take bad publicity sitting down
Whether it manifests as super cards now or 60 series later, nvidia is not known for sitting on their laurels like this
reef leaf
Well, they haven't historically
odd siren
Jensen is known to be quite an aggressive person irl
reef leaf
I think the AI bubble would need to pop hard for them to, tbh
they found their new whale after crypto
odd siren
Like he'd box if he had gloves iykwim
reef leaf
oh yeah no I don't doubt that
odd siren
they found their new whale after crypto
Oh they'll still whale, but truth be told in the last like, 3 gens they've gone from 12% profit to over 50% for each nvidia chip in consumer
In ai they're now raking 1000% profit
Like it makes total sense but I reckon they'll just leave the consumer market first imo
They'll either try or leave lol
reef leaf
Intel cards look VEEERY interesting which isn't something I expected
not for my usecases but they still are VERY interesting
Especially for what has been admittedly two initial generations
odd siren
Speaking from experience
The drivers on b580...
They still have a long way to go imo lol
odd siren
I mean yeah? It's good if you stick to work or mainstream games
Outside of that it's a dice roll
We would get like worse than 3050 performance in games that weren't officially supported
odd siren
Ye
reef leaf
We would get like worse than 3050 performance in games that weren't officially s...
ooof
reef leaf
this is the highest it got to and I swear the clock was higher too. Fans didn't ...
I'm yet to break 100c on memory, and 90 on hotspot, and 80 on the die
I played monster hunter yesterday for like 5 hours too
turbid stream
Hello, I am trying to buy an rx 7800 xt second hand, 400 dollars, if someone can help me confirm it's safe to buy it? I provide what the seller provided me.
livid idol
Hello, I am trying to buy an rx 7800 xt second hand, 400 dollars, if someone can...
It appears that they have a real GPU at least, and it performs as expected.
As for safety, there's a few rules to follow.
Meet in a public area with security. Police stations work. I use my local movie theater.
Use PayPal "goods and services" or cash and don't give anything until you see it in person.
If using cash, bring a friend that can hold it and watch until you see the GPU and give an all clear signal.
These are conditions that no serious seller could refuse, as they're for protection of both of you. They may ask for a little more money to cover the PayPal fees.
junior locust
PayPal is generally really good because you can charge back immediately if you get scammed
Just don't abuse charge back to scam people
Y'know generally don't scam people
cerulean rover
If they ask for PayPal friends and family with the excuse of lower fees, don't do it, that gives up your consumer protection
rich kettle
Drop tomorrow?
livid idol
No one here would know. Even the admins (the only people that actually work at Newegg) get told like an hour before it happens.
gray gorge
@eveybody
naive flicker
Bruh
forest oasis
harsh sandal
i got my 7900xt temps down to 42c average while playing satisfactory high amd fsr quality
case fan speed 40%
CPU 55c
gpu has 1 intake below it and im about to add another bruh
gonna go below freezing soon
livid idol
That'd be crazy if you could drop 40C with one fan
harsh sandal
That'd be crazy if you could drop 40C with one fan
bet
turbid stream
It appears that they have a real GPU at least, and it performs as expected.
As f...
Thank you so much, tomorrow I will get it!
south halo
Quick question,
XFX is just saying that it's manufactured by someone that isn't amd right?
Is there a difference in performance between xfx and normal cards
Also, there's a 5700xt powercolor I saw for cheap on marketplace, same seller is selling other 5700xts for a normal price
is there anything wrong with powercolor?
cerulean rover
Quick question,
XFX is just saying that it's manufactured by someone that isn't...
GPU chip itself came from AMD, PCB may be reference design or aib design, cooler is aib design. XFX and Power color are aib partners for AMD.
Powercolor and xfx are both reputable companies, nothing wrong with them rn
south halo
So it's pretty much their own coolers rather than amd ones
cerulean rover
Yes, and sometimes a different PCB
south halo
Seller says there's a little bit of rust on the card, do you think that's an issue
cerulean rover
Uhh ask them to take a picture
Make sure there's no water damage or anything like that
modest shuttle
So is there any good information on the 16-pin connectors for power with regards to bending them or what the limit is for bending? I am considering switching my card from vertical to standard horizontal but the power cable being a splitter from the main connection means bending it enough to move it out of the way to not be an eyesore will be difficult. And the card is so wide that it will be somewhat close to the glass meaning the cable will likely come close to touching it. I know there are angled connectors but from the research I've done the angled connectors were more prone to melting
cerulean rover
that looks pretty bad, either water contact or they're in a really humid area
south halo
that looks pretty bad, either water contact or they're in a really humid area
Should I still buy the card?
It's listed for 145 cad, most others I've seen have been for 180 cad, that persons also selling an xfx 5700xt for 160
limber flax
Yo wtf why is it so rusty
Also, kombuster for temps is kinda funny when power virus furmark exists
cerulean rover
I mean personally a card that rusty seems like really badly maintained to me
or water damage
but if it performs fine still then whatever
south halo
Do you think itll last a while or stop working after a bit
south halo
This is the only video of the performance I have so idk if thats good or not
past pawn
What’s a good 3060 price
lone pond
Anyone one know if newegg will be resupplying with any more white 9070 xt?
raven wharf
I mean personally a card that rusty seems like really badly maintained to me
must not of washed it after taking it out on the salty roads
heady turtle
Anyone one know if newegg will be resupplying with any more white 9070 xt?
weve no clue
livid idol
What’s a good 3060 price
New, used, or refurbished?
storm oracle
Do i upgrade 6700 xt or upgrade to am5
livid idol
Do i upgrade 6700 xt or upgrade to am5
imo,
If you're at 1080p, platform upgrade.
1440p+, GPU
random walrus
Or: 1440p then gpu
storm oracle
Was planning to upgrade to 1440p after
livid idol
If 1440p is planned soon then I'd still go GPU
storm oracle
If 1440p is planned soon then I'd still go GPU
Ok
past pawn
New, used, or refurbished?
Which ever would be the cheapest
modest shuttle
?ddu
neat ventureBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
modest shuttle
the nvidia driver situation is a real pain
i cant roll back to older drivers because theyre all incompatible with windows 11 24h2
so now i get to decide if i truly want to play control with ray tracing, i have to run ethernet into my office through the basement. which means ill have to try and line the hole perfectly to hit the stud to go up the wall, but that wont be easy
gray fog
Should I buy a 7600 now I’m assuming gpus aren’t going down anytime soon
quartz gull
i cant roll back to older drivers because theyre all incompatible with windows 1...
What's funny is the drivers are so bad that it like messed up my install to the point I had to do a windows usb refresh
Black screen even after ddu on anything besides safe boot
Like ??? Nvidia you're giving me 2015-2018 AMD vibes pls stop 😢
royal copper
Does anyone know if intel is still stocking the a380? Been looking for one but can’t find in stock at least for msrp
keen flax
so now i get to decide if i truly want to play control with ray tracing, i have ...
Damn that bad?
Also wow, the 9070xt prices are stupid high right now. $950 for the Nitro
modest shuttle
Damn that bad?
Yep, and after doing all that I found out that the 5X cards aren't compatible with the Windows 10 drivers that are stable with Control. So I basically have to play without RT. Or deal with insane stuttering, crashing and fps drops.
keen flax
Yep, and after doing all that I found out that the 5X cards aren't compatible wi...
Damn that sucks dude
So far I haven't had any issues with the 9070xt. Got a 5700x3d Monday and performance is even better
modest shuttle
I can average 120fps in Cyberpunk with full RT on max settings, but Control even on medium bricks
keen flax
Had some stuttering with the 5600x but now I don't have any of that
modest shuttle
Control is the only game so far to have issues, I was averaging almost 300fps in Returnal
keen flax
I can average 120fps in Cyberpunk with full RT on max settings, but Control even...
Yeah I'm getting basically that more or less
What's holding you back from going to windows 11?
I upgraded like 1.5-2yrs ago and haven't had any issues
Actually fixed some issues I had
cerulean rover
Control is a bit finicky with w11
modest shuttle
im already on w11
and none of the drivers work on w10 so its pointless to go to 10
i did a fresh 10 install and every driver going back to 54X was incompatible with the 5X card
I've basically accepted that I have to play without RT for Control. It runs great without RT, as soon as I flick a single RT setting on it starts becoming seriously unstable
Just feels lame since RT is one of the main selling points of that game
boreal turret
keen flax
im already on w11
ohh okay I misread your message
frank dagger
anyone know where i can find productivity benchmarks for the 9070xt? corsair compensated me for the gpu damage, wondering how good it is on productivity as well before goin to look for one
cerulean rover
solemn panther
HM
frank dagger
ty
seems like it maybe slightly a problem, cause vegas, photoshop, and possibly goin into primere, maybe an issue, but if it just renders it slightly slower... maybe it can still work. i'd kinda think those double digits may still be okay?
wicked hound
seems like it maybe slightly a problem, cause vegas, photoshop, and possibly goi...
Davinci Resolve is better than Vegas or Premiere while being free (or paid for specific features). If you want AV1 encode, AMD is nicer cuz they have AV1 encode in free tier (Nvidia AV1 encode isnt free)
Photoediting isnt really that GPU dependent once you go above low end iGPU stuff. So dont really need to worry about Photoshop/Photopea/AffinityPhoto/Krita/etc
random walrus
Resolve the goat 😍
junior locust
Davinci Resolve is better than Vegas or Premiere while being free (or paid for s...
Honestly Resolve is great, but Adobe integration is kind of unbeatable
Especially if you're in a large corp setting where time is money²
forest oasis
Yes/no ish
Resolve has been used in quite a few large productions at this point
And also has some similar features to adobe, just doesn't have an image editing integration afaik but everything regarding video editing and VFX is built into one app
wraith agate
Hi guys!!! I’ve put together a part list for my first pc but just struggling to nail down what GPU to get. I won’t be using it for super big games but I also want something that will be good for a while.. was thinking 4060 (heard bad things..), 3070 or 7700xt. I’ve found some on market place but honestly don’t know what prices are good 😫 will be pairing with AMD 7600x cpu ! Any help would be great ❤️
It’s not letting me add pics but I found:
XFX 7700XT for $350
MSI RTX 3070 for $300
ASUS dual 4060 white for 250
also would be open to any input on my parts list :)
solemn panther
If you don't care about ray tracing, get the 7700xt...if you do, the 3070 is what you should get, but the 8gb of VRAM is BAD. Just get the 7700xt tbh @wraith agate
wraith agate
If you don't care about ray tracing, get the 7700xt...if you do, the 3070 is wha...
is that a good price for the 7700??
solemn panther
is that a good price for the 7700??
$350 doesn't sound bad
fading glacier
If you don't care about ray tracing, get the 7700xt...if you do, the 3070 is wha...
i wouldnt consider rt on a 3070 tho
solemn panther
i wouldnt consider rt on a 3070 tho
I had the card..it was trash lol
random walrus
Resolve has been used in quite a few large productions at this point
And also ha...
Pretty sure it's used extensively in industry for color grading
Sure, it doesn't have as many integrations as adobe but it's fully featured
And they offer a generous free version
And the paid version is a one time purchase
😍
wraith agate
lightly used 6800XT for $250, good deal???
raven wharf
lightly used 6800XT for $250, good deal???
if it has no issues absolutely
fresh sun
lightly used 6800XT for $250, good deal???
Absolutely
paid the same for mine
no regrets
wraith agate
if it has no issues absolutely
I mean it looks good from the pics??? But I’d be getting this to build my first pc so I don’t really know much 😭
fresh sun
I mean it looks good from the pics??? But I’d be getting this to build my first ...
send the pics
i got mine from a friend lol
wraith agate
I can’t:( i joined recently idk if that has anything to do with it
raven wharf
I can’t:( i joined recently idk if that has anything to do with it
yeah you cant send links right away
dm me and i can send them here if you want
fresh sun
I can’t:( i joined recently idk if that has anything to do with it
Yeah dm me too if u want
wraith agate
Yeah dm me too if u want
sent
wraith agate
not sure, I could ask. Just says barely/lightly used
wraith agate
Yes!
raven wharf
lmao i saw that the other day
wraith agate
I’ve been scouring marketplace 😭
fresh sun
not sure, I could ask. Just says barely/lightly used
Doesnt hurt to ask
anyone can say lightly used tbf
Ik my friend basically only for web browsing for like 1.5years and then did gaming for half a year
raven wharf
I’ve been scouring marketplace 😭
i dont see it anymore on my end
wonder if they took it down
wraith agate
Hmm still there for me!
raven wharf
Hmm still there for me!
oh I see it now, its like 100 miles away from me thats why
raven wharf
visually it looks fine to me, at 250 thats one of the best deals ive seen
I would def ask and see if you can get more info/videos of him benchmarking it and stuff
frank dagger
i think a soldering specialist is probably the answer to get my previous gpu fixed, since it's probably something not fully baked in or loose? like... it's able to run for a day/few hours before it instantly starts having problems...
but just in case, i did drivers multiple times, support bracket on/off, is there anything else i need to do to be sure?
i hear there's also gpu bios???
dunno how that'll work on a 3080ti FE
forest oasis
i think a soldering specialist is probably the answer to get my previous gpu fix...
Oof
Bad solder joints are kinda hard to find
They'll probably have to reflow every component
frank dagger
regardless, i either gotta look for a new gpu soon (lmao, stocks, even microcenter nada) and/or get the old gpu repaired with the compensation money...
workin with an old 2060ko ultra for 1080p on a 4k monitor...
fading glacier
that must look horrible
frank dagger
it does, very blurry.
either ways, ima bear with it for a while...
hopefully may try for a gigabyte 9070xt since it seems good and is one of the only beefy cards that can fit in my case
but again, stock so lmao
hot bough
but again, stock so lmao
2nd hand? I mean last I checked I found used 3090/3090ti for about $700 a month or so back.
Might not be latest gen but definitely a very capable card.
modest shuttle
I think I might officially be on the regret train going for the 70ti
modest shuttle
although so far hogwarts legacy is running at full max settings at 260fps+, pretty nice
lone pond
Hey Newegg you should order more white gpus
hot bough
I think I might officially be on the regret train going for the 70ti
Why regret?
modest shuttle
Why regret?
driver issues + lack of performance for what was paid
hot bough
driver issues + lack of performance for what was paid
That must be frustrating. I understand now.
modest shuttle
also seeing people post benchmarks/performance from 9070 non-xt cards that beats mine
keen flax
I've been pretty happy with my 9070xt basically no issues and great performance. Only issue I've had is when I try to stream something on discord it makes the game crash. But when I reopen the game and stream again it works fine.
Not sure if that's a GPU driver bug, windows bug or windows being windows.
forest oasis
Me using the previous gen amd (or actually 2 gens old at this point) with no issues
modest shuttle
oh boy a new nvidia driver, surely this wont be a pile of trash too, surely
lone pond
Has the 50 series not been that great?
solemn panther
From a 40 series standpoint, it's bad
solemn panther
Upgrading from a 3080ti to a 5080....it's good
naive flicker
40 series was peak
modest shuttle
i went from 3080 to 5070ti and dont love it
naive flicker
when is next newegg shuffle\
solemn panther
i went from 3080 to 5070ti and dont love it
Rip..the 5080 is around 75-80 percent better with a good overclock
The only "good" card
If you can find it for $999
lone pond
When is the Next white gpu restock.
forest oasis
We don't know when the next GPU restock is, let alone any specific colours
raven wharf
When is the Next white gpu restock.
insert 8ball gif
maiden mist
Hello, I am trying to buy an rx 7800 xt second hand, 400 dollars, if someone can...
I bought my first GPU at a crack house when I was 14 and everything turned out fine. Always helps to have a second person with you just to be safe.
hot bough
When is the Next white gpu restock.
in the future*
In all seriousness we have no clue. I think you would have better luck buying one and painting the shroud with the way things are.
hot bough
When is the Next white gpu restock.
Not a 50 series but I linked a white 7900XT for $799 in #tech-deals
modest shuttle
If you can find it for $999
im done buying hardware for at least 5+ years
modest shuttle
i heavily regret doing this build so i dont see myself making the same mistake again
hot bough
@lone pond White 5090 at MSRP.
https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Graphics-WINDFORCE-GV-N5090AORUSM-ICE-32GD/dp/B0DVCH9WJH/ref=sr_1_18?
random walrus
*the worst launch, yet
vital oriole
naive flicker
imma take over nvidia fr fr
make them re-release the 40 series
what yall think of "QMB Technologies"
hot folio
When is the Next white gpu restock.
Soon
naive flicker
on that note when's the next newegg shuffle?
hot folio
Soon
lone pond
Man I passed on a 5090 FE waiting for a MSI White Trio 5080. Aesthetics over everything.
hot folio
White plastidip is your best friend if you care about aestetic
solemn panther
Man I passed on a 5090 FE waiting for a MSI White Trio 5080. Aesthetics over eve...
A 5090 at MSRP? Should have taken it if you had the money :/
lone pond
A 5090 at MSRP? Should have taken it if you had the money :/
Only white gpus in this case
random walrus
5090FE you probably coulda traded for someone's white non-FE card
forest oasis
Ong fr
raven wharf
Thanks but that wont fit in my Y60
pcie riser cable and stick it on top of the case
solid glacier
hey yall its me again
velvet grail
i plan on undervolting and/or overclocking the 6950xt, is it better to use adrenalin or afterburner? i already run both all the time (ab + rtss for stats). i'd like to get rid of some software , i was thinking ab, but rtss doesn't work without it (?). adrenalin it's also unreliable for me since it gives errors at every startup
i'll soon reinstall windows to fix some issues
lone pond
Leaving a gpu as is usually is the most stable route
naive bane
Why do amd does not release a card that is compareable to nvidia flagship? like an even in performance card to the 5090
hot folio
i plan on undervolting and/or overclocking the 6950xt, is it better to use adren...
Adrenalin is the only good way for AMD
velvet grail
Leaving a gpu as is usually is the most stable route
it's way too loud at full load despite the fans running at just 60%
I noticed I can limit it to 270w with minimal performance loss but significantly lower heat output
so that's why I was looking to undervolt
random walrus
Leaving a gpu as is usually is the most stable route
Light undervolt is easily just as stable
cosmic bluff
Why do amd does not release a card that is compareable to nvidia flagship? like ...
They mentioned that they would rather focus on their mid range line up than compete against Nvidia for flagship
cold fox
Why do amd does not release a card that is compareable to nvidia flagship? like ...
They are focusing mid to beginner high end
They are not trying to compete for the highest end
raven wharf
Why do amd does not release a card that is compareable to nvidia flagship? like ...
They are focusing on the modern midrange, where majority of consumers actually are, as they want to gain marketshare. Whatever RDNA5 is, I believe they will try and match nvidia in the high-end.
lone pond
Anyone having problems with the new Nvidia driver?
cerulean rover
there's some more stuff on 576.02
https://youtu.be/KrCEPX47vtw
little kernel
I found 4070 super for 782 usd including fees and that stuff does it worth?
hot bough
I found 4070 super for 782 usd including fees and that stuff does it worth?
4070 Super or 4070 Super TI?
hot bough
SA being South America?
Not sure what the market is like down there but eight hundred dollars for that card feels a bit more than over priced.
That being said it is a capable card.
little kernel
SA being South America?
Saudi Arabia lol
hot bough
Oh I definitely have no idea what your market is like then.
little kernel
Oh I definitely have no idea what your market is like then.
everything is out of stock or over priced
4070's are out of stock like every now and then i see a few on the stock
5000 series are over priced too much
hot bough
gotcha.
Yeah in that case it comes down to if your willing to spend the money. overall the 4070 Super is a good card and can handle most games.
naive flicker
can i get a b580 with fries
cerulean rover
Yay more problems coming from the power delivery implementation on 50xx
https://www.igorslab.de/en/local-hotspots-on-rtx-5000-cards-when-board-layout-and-cooling-design-do-not-work-together/
naive flicker
So the vrms might spontaneously blow up.... dang, was i smart to go with intel instead
forest oasis
💀
heady plover
I’m not at all sure what this specific piece on the gpu would be called but as you can see it’s got a chip on its cap part. Would that damage be purely cosmetic or could it affect the gpu?? Based on my limited knowledge my first assumption is that only the actual copper wire itself matters and the cap is only to isolate it from touching other things but ofc I don’t actually know what this piece is.
naive flicker
Just add long as nothing metallic is touching it it's fine
Otherwise, put some electrical tape on it
heady plover
Awesome thanks.
naive flicker
If it doesn't work, rma it
near hawk
Hi All,
Recently i brought a second hand rtx 3070ti FE and im shopping around for a new PSU to go with it but im at a bit of a loss with the compatability between the "pre formalisation" 12 VHPWR connector on my card, the 12VHPWR standardised connector and the 12v 2x6 connector on new PSUs. I was looking at getting a corsair 750e (2025). It has a 12v 2x6 connector on it but also includes an adapter to 2 6+2 PCIE connectors.
My question is, can i physically and electronicly connect the 12v 2x6 connector to my 3070ti FE? Will it supply power with the sense pins disconnected? My understanding is that the spec says it doesnt supply anything if the pins are floating but other people say otherwise or that individual implementations vary?
An alternative is I could go from 12v 2x6 on the PSU to 2x 6+2 pcie through corsairs adapter then to 12VHPWR through nvidia's adapter but id like to avoid this if it is possible.
heady plover
If it doesn't work, rma it
Haha there is definetely no way this gpu is still in the warranty period and even if it were it still wouldn’t qualify because of the dumb things that were done to it. I’m just trying to give it a second life but I’m not desperate to get it to work.
naive flicker
Hi All,
Recently i brought a second hand rtx 3070ti FE and im shopping around f...
I'd get the adapter personally, it'd probably work without, but just for safety concerns
near hawk
Cool, adapter on adapter is pretty jank but at least its explixily compatible
forest oasis
I’m not at all sure what this specific piece on the gpu would be called but as y...
Inductor
heady plover
Same gpu as before different line of problems. What you’re seeing is a black video on YouTube so that the problem is easily seen. It displays everything on windows but has those lines literally everywhere all the time. Ive tried to install drivers and nothing happens. The nvidia app says drivers need to be installed for it to tell me details abt the system even when I install drivers from nvidia app or from the website. I’ve tried ddu but it didn’t seem to do anything. On gpu z it detects that it’s a 2080 with drivers 576.02 but on the sensors tab it has no information about the gpu only gpu clock and mem clock (both read 0). I believe the driver that was on it before I used ddu and reinstalled was around the 550 range??? Can’t remember. To me this looks like actual hardware damage but I don’t know every sign of every problem but maybe one of yall do. Any thoughts?
cerulean rover
Same gpu as before different line of problems. What you’re seeing is a black vid...
With using DDU, you need to use DDU in safe mode with windows auto update forced off, and on the driver side, you should get 566.36 (https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/237719/) with non 50 series, since it's the last known safe driver version. That pattern does look like it could be something weird hardware wise, check your display settings first, it almost looks like it's trying to use interlaced for some reason. It could be something weird with the cable you're using, or the port on the monitor or the port on the GPU.
heady plover
With using DDU, you need to use DDU in safe mode with windows auto update forced...
What display settings? If you’re talking abt nvidia control panel stuff then i forgot to mention that control panel doesnt appear. And as for ports ive used hdmi and display port both look like this. I tried booting into safe mode and simply couldn’t but I’ll try again.
cerulean rover
What display settings? If you’re talking abt nvidia control panel stuff then i f...
Yea, check NVCP settings, most important is if it says 1080i instead of 1080p anywhere, or an option for interlaced being enabled anywhere
heady plover
Well I can’t check those settings There is no nvcp.
cerulean rover
What display settings? If you’re talking abt nvidia control panel stuff then i f...
There are multiple ways of booting into safe mode, simplest is hold shift before clicking restart, advanced options and startup settings and then choose safe mode
cerulean rover
Well I can’t check those settings There is no nvcp.
uh if there's no nvcp that sounds like you straight up don't have drivers
afaik nvcp is has been just integrated with drivers
I'd try to install 566.36 right now then
heady plover
Yeah that’s abt what I’d expect. I did do that to get into safe mode the problem is specifically that it won’t actually launch. I press 4 to boot into safe mode when I get the prompt and the system just stays powered off
Trying it again rn though. Might’ve been a fluke who knows
Safe mode actually ran this time and ddu worked. Installed those drivers and nvcp still isn’t there, gpuz spits out the same results (but with drivers 566.36 listed) and lines are also still there. This really is starting to look like a really unfortunate hardware problem
boreal turret
Yall is this good?
naive flicker
Chat what do we think of nvidia rn
naive flicker
precisely
naive flicker
Yall is this good?
https://a.co/d/68kQ2Qz
I'd recommend AMD or intel over nvidia rn mate
cold fox
I'd recommend AMD or intel over nvidia rn mate
Intel is… eh
Only for budget ballers
And if he’s considering 750$ gpu then he shouldn’t go intel
cold fox
Why
Terrible deal
You can get a 9070xt for a little more, or get refurbished/used gpus for cheap
calm relic
I had my pc run overnight and when i woke up it was still perfectly fine, but now my monitors keep shutting off after boot mode saying no signal when everything is still plugged in, not sure if its a GPU issue or what but its not working on either monitor, no matter if its hdmi or dp, any ideas?
And I've already tried startup repair
torn garden
I had a similar problem and it was a faulty ram stick
quasi flicker
Anything bad about the B850?
I see prices around the same as the 4060
Always worth looking at userbenchmark for a laugh
naive flicker
Anything bad about the B850?
It's budget
Plus the only ones readily available are the gunnir ones
quasi flicker
The what one?
quasi flicker
What about Sparkle?
naive flicker
It's blue
quasi flicker
lol
naive flicker
Tbh if you care nothing about how your pc looks it's fine
Asrock steel legend, if you can get it, would also work
quasi flicker
Helping this guy with a list, apparently 750 Euros isn't as much to work with as I thought
No way a B580 for 300 is fitting in there atm
naive flicker
If you can find an le model that would work
But it's out of stock everywhere
https://www.newegg.com/gunnir-b580-tri-12g-oc-intel-12gb-gddr6/p/3GM-0001-00015 im getting this one
junior locust
Do note that the B580 needs a beefy CPU to work well
Like very recent
No older than 5 years
quasi flicker
Have an R5 8400F in this list, should be more than enough
quasi flicker
Ryzen 5 8400F?
quasi flicker
No listings at all
What about the 8600G?
It might just be better to go to AM4, even though you lose the future proofing
quasi flicker
7500F is good tho
Would the 5600XT work well with the B580?
junior locust
No listings at all
Aliexpress
junior locust
No listings at all
Or use a 7600
That's easily available
8600G is also cut down bigtime
I'd not do AM4 for a new build at this point