#graphics-cards

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odd siren
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The older radeon cards all spiked at or near that high too

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XTX cards spike constantly to 550W

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Whereas old 6900XTs went to 600-ish

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It's somewhat par for the course

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4090s do over 750w for example

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5090s near 900

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And yet I can still recommend 750W psus for 4090s if the pc is built correctly

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Cos the number isn't the simple answer

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So yeah don't worry about it tbh

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It's just a funny high number

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We consider that in our suggestions on the server

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So you aren't likely to be affected by it

keen flax
odd siren
keen flax
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Same I didn't even see it last night

dusk nexus
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thank you! na i was just commenting that the link showed up as locked is all. i really appreciate the ping tho!

dusk nexus
rancid bramble
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But ye thanks its awesome

dusk nexus
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what cpu do you have paired?

cold fox
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Congrats

rancid bramble
rancid bramble
dusk nexus
# rancid bramble i5-13400f

not sure how that pairs up with AMD, but ive seen some videos that the CPUS like a 3600(x?) paired with ARC leave alot on the table for performance i would look into that a bit just to make sure. i may be wrong tho

cold fox
rancid bramble
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Yeah they found that the b580 performs less with weaker cpus

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But mine is stronk enouf

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i get really good fps at 1440p

cold fox
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Nice

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My 3060ti goes kinda crazy in 1440p

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But I’m getting a 9070xt real soon

rancid bramble
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This has been a great upgrade from my old rx 580

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Proud to have an all intel build 🗿

dusk nexus
# cold fox But I’m getting a 9070xt real soon

this thing has been a beast! it basically crushing any of the games ive thrown at it. (I dont play triple A games so i suppose this isnt as impressive) but i can pin it to 165 Hz (monitors cap) in anything i play maxed out

rancid bramble
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how dare you not have 240hz or more with a 9070xt

cold fox
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From the mc bundles

cold fox
rancid bramble
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cool

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bank breaker monitor tho

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do people reallly need oled

odd siren
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It's a big upgrade

cold fox
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I’m waiting for a deal on one

rancid bramble
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good luck on that

cold fox
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And I got a crazy good deal on my pc

rancid bramble
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ill stick with my 1440p 240hz ips for 198

odd siren
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Oled is kinda bigger than just a panel difference

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Cos it's not only colour and contrast

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But also input latency, responsiveness

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Sharpness

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It kinda covers a huge gamut

rancid bramble
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i have to see it to want to buy it

odd siren
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The latency improvement on oled vs other tech alone gives as much benefit as a couple gpu upgrades as far as fps uptick goes

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It's a big money drop for sure but there's quite tangible benefit if you shop smart

cold fox
odd siren
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Oh yeah try it before you buy it

rancid bramble
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i dont live near microcenter peepoSadSip

odd siren
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We have other suggestions if you aren't keen

cold fox
rancid bramble
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i live like 5 hours away

cold fox
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My dads gonna take me up the 29th for mc run and sabers game

rancid bramble
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lucky

cold fox
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Very lmao

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My parents also paid for 300$ of my gpu/psu combo that was alr a good deal

keen flax
keen flax
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I wanna upgrade my monitor, but I need to upgrade my CPU too and that means cpu/ram/Mobo 💀

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I want that sweet 9800x3d

modest shuttle
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updated cost per frame from recent hardware unboxed video

odd siren
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720 at 1440p was about right for estimated 9070xt value

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Puts it at the upper half

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Which is ok, not the best

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4K looks very different tho

modest shuttle
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I'm honestly getting close to being over all of this and just overpaying for one or the other

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It sounds super arrogant but a couple hundred bucks isn't that important to me

keen nacelle
modest shuttle
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I think at that point I'd just spend $100 more and get a 5070ti

solemn panther
craggy pier
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knowing the group that appeals to ssadge

dusk nexus
cold fox
modest shuttle
dusk nexus
modest shuttle
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1440, dont have a 4k monitor

dusk nexus
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same so i will say this unless you NEED it in the games your playing just wait it out it isnt that big of a deal. i bought this to give my wife the 3080 bc her 5600XT had basically hit its limit

modest shuttle
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Anyone know if a chart like this exists for 5070ti's?

livid idol
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It's still too new and no one is able to get any stock of each model to test

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Especially since AIBs just added another dozen models you can't buy

modest shuttle
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oh a new shuffle to get disappointed by

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Gonna laugh when I get picked for a 5080

keen flax
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I think I'd get it if I get picked for that $999 one haha

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And sell the 9070xt for what I paid

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Or I should still be able to return it

modest shuttle
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I'm gonna go for the $999 and $1200 one

tough plinth
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it sometimes freezes and pretty often on startup has a corrupted display, which is fixed by turning off and on the monitor

versed valve
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Is the Asus Prime 9070 OC (non xt) really worth $660? I landed an order on amazon but I don’t know if that is just overpaying or not

junior locust
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It's overpriced compared to MSRP but it's ALMOST within reason

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Normally MSRP or 5% over MSRP is the reasonable pricing

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Wait it's a non-XT

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Then it's blergh

versed valve
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Yeah I mean it’s 20% over msrp but is that just how this goes?

junior locust
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Though that might be post-tariffs MSRP

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I'm not sure about it

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But Asus usually has higher prices for any given "tier" of card

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Asus tax be like

versed valve
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Yea I wanted to get an xfx but that’s basically impossible

junior locust
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The whole market is screwed up rn

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Buying used is the recommended course lately

versed valve
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What can compete with the 9070 for 650 used?

junior locust
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Uhhhh

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That entirely depends on the market of your country

keen nacelle
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6900xt should be $450-500 in the US

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Or 6950xt

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3080 12gb/ti wouldnt be too far behind, id rather 16gb vram though

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7900 gre/7900xt would probably be similarly priced to the 9070 or cost more atm

versed valve
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Hmm. Thank you, real torn on whether to keep it, cancel this order and wait for better prices, or just buy used now.

junior locust
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Buying used is probably smarter

keen nacelle
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Do you happen to want an oled monitor

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@modest shuttle

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No clue if you're in the market for an oled

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But $670 9070xt bundled with one if you are

junior locust
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670 for a 9070 XT is way better than 620 for a non-Xt

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If you ask me

keen nacelle
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Yeah just being bundled with a $570 monitor is a really crappy option for most normal people lmao

junior locust
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I mean personally I'd make the argument for that being a solid package

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But that's because I'm an OLED fanatic

keen nacelle
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Oh fs

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If youre in the market for an oled it's great

craggy pier
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Miniled my beloved

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Microled where are you

keen nacelle
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I love my mini led but I still wish I had had the money for oled

limber flax
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I'm still on macroled bro

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I need an OLED

modest shuttle
modest shuttle
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best buy highlighting having the swift at $600 still while no one else does 😄

tough plinth
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it sometimes freezes and pretty often on startup has a corrupted display, which is fixed by turning off and on the monitor

keen flax
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Wait I hadn't seen that the 5080 only have 16gb of vram lol I thought it'd have 24gb like the 7900xtx

keen flax
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Yeah

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Atleast it's gddr7 unlike AMD but still

cold fox
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9070xt with uv/oc = stock 5080

keen flax
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Oh really? I've seen a couple of articles about it

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But I'm scared to try lol

cold fox
modest shuttle
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it depends on your silicon lottery

keen flax
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Don't want to make it run too hot

modest shuttle
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not all of them undervolt the same

keen flax
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Yeah

modest shuttle
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some people start crashing almost immediately and others can undervolt it to the extreme

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good luck on the shuffle all

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damn that msi 5070 was out of stock as soon as it went live

keen flax
modest shuttle
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i dunno, ive only owned pny hard drives and theyve failed every time

keen flax
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Yeah I've only owned a pny 4gb SD I bought in circuit City like 15 years ago lmao

modest shuttle
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"In online discussions, users have shared varied experiences with PNY GPUs. Some have reported positive outcomes, noting the brand's longstanding collaboration with NVIDIA and the quality of their products. However, others have expressed concerns about customer service and product longevity. One user mentioned a PNY card failing after four months and faced challenges with the warranty process, advising potential buyers to consider other brands. ​"

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Seems like the same story as all brands

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you either get a good card, or you get screwed and spend a long time fighting with bad support

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I will say, seeing that PNY 5080 at $999 raises my eyebrows at the 5070ti's listed for $999

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I think the only real downside is its a pretty ugly/basic card

modest shuttle
keen flax
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As long as it performs and cools itself properly I'm happy haha

modest shuttle
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if im gonna drop a full stack id like it to look good 😄

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if i get the pure from the shuffle its really gonna mess up my build since its all black lmao

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really hoping i get picked for the MSI 5070

lilac flume
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I want the astral so I can return my gaming trio

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And get the card I really want ❤️

modest shuttle
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not sure theres any world where im paying that much for a gpu lol

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maybe if my job paid for it or something lol

keen flax
keen flax
modest shuttle
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the ti

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that 5090 could pay for the new build im doing twice, and im overpaying for at least 3 components

cold fox
modest shuttle
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I signed up for multiple

cold fox
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Ic

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How do you even enter

modest shuttle
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login

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select what you want

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wait to be disappointed

cold fox
modest shuttle
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Well I wasnt referring to your deal, I was referring to selecting cards you want and getting the 'you werent selected' email.

cold fox
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Oh it’s only gpus

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Nvm

modest shuttle
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could always drop $1100 on a zotac 😄

keen flax
keen flax
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That's just crazy

modest shuttle
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it certainly looks weird next to the $999 5080 theyre doing in the shuffle

modest shuttle
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im hoping to secure something else before it ships so i can cancel 😄

keen flax
modest shuttle
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It's sold through Amazon but says earliest arrival date is 3 weeks from now, not exactly sure what theyre doing

modest shuttle
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was a Gigabyte too 😄

cold fox
keen flax
modest shuttle
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yeah or its shipping directly from another country, amazon germany was shipping a card the other day, it had a 4 week estimated arrival date

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but it was being sold through amazon us

modest shuttle
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That one actually had the import costs baked into the cost which was interesting

modest shuttle
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as far as I can tell that PNY card and one low-end gigabyte card are the only 5080's under $1100

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and the FE of course

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But odds of getting an FE must be next to 0

keen flax
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Love how it looks

modest shuttle
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if my memory serves correctly the 3X FE's had issues with cooling which always made me skeptical

solemn panther
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Nvidia's priority queue is the only way for Fe it's seems

keen flax
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I think it was for the 3080 or 3090

keen flax
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That's an ugly card lmao

modest shuttle
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damn they added a bunch of bundles with pure's and nitro+ cards

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they really must be struggling to offload these Corsair PSU's lol

modest shuttle
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they didnt even include the nitro in the shuffle, they mustve done like 5 cards for shuffle and the rest to bundles 😄

livid idol
keen nacelle
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6000 series reference also had bad cooling funny enough

modest shuttle
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Well then

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Managed to beat the bots to the Vanguard 5070ti for $900

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hmm

karmic frigate
modest shuttle
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they sold out instantly so false

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and all the 5070's going up at $900 have sold out almost instantly for the past 2 weeks

raven wharf
silent cradle
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any known issues with AMDs newest drivers?

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My drivers went to crap

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I was trying to clean up some pop up virus and deleted 1 too many things and I probably got something for my drivers in the process

modest shuttle
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These are up on Amazon if you're feeling the fomo 😄

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only $900 for a 9070XT 😄

keen nacelle
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Lol there's 9070xts for $750 bundled with (mostly overpriced) psus on newegg

modest shuttle
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Those have been going steady for a bit, almost down to only $900+ bundles

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those corsair PSU's must not be great if they have so many to offload

keen nacelle
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They are good

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Just priced a bit above similar quality psus

modest shuttle
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I'm glad I can roll my PSU into my next build, one less thing to worry about researching

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ive thought about getting a new one and slapping it into the build im replacing, then i can sell it as a full build instead of parting it out

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but i think shipping a full build is probably even more stressful than individual parts

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i really am kicking myself for not keeping my boxes

modest shuttle
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and looking at the prices of boxes, im gonna lose 10-15% just in shipping costs

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if I use Jawa.gg I will lose even more

keen nacelle
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I'd just sell locally

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r/hardwareswap and Facebook marketplace are great for that

modest shuttle
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locally will be tough in my small town, i need to look at hardwareswap again

peak swift
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The profit margin is just so much higher on PSUs

modest shuttle
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Thankfully a few retailers still have sub $800 cards, but theyre disappearing quickly

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Best Buy actually has 2 models at $600 which is wild

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im surprised the 9070s are still up

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scalpers must not be selling too well

raven wharf
modest shuttle
modest shuttle
modest shuttle
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if i was going to cancel the card i ordered it would need to be for an msrp 9070xt or 5070ti, beyond that ive kind of accepted what i paid

keen nacelle
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Oh i didn't know that you ordered one

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Wait was it the $900 9070xt

modest shuttle
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lol no, but it was a $900 5070ti

keen nacelle
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Oh

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Slightly less gross

modest shuttle
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I got it directly from MSI last night or the night before. I wasn't really expecting the order to go through but now that it has, Ive kinda accepted Im overpaying

keen nacelle
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Arguably a better deal than the $1000 people were paying for 4080 supers up until a few months ago ig

modest shuttle
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its a brand i like and i quite like how the card looks so im fine with overpaying $150

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im waiting for it to get here, ill confirm it has all the ROPs and then order the rest of the build

solemn panther
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hm

modest shuttle
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the only 9070xt's i truly liked the look of were $900 so it's a win win for me

keen nacelle
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Whats the rest of the build gonna be?

lusty cipher
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im so annoyed with newegg

modest shuttle
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Im kinda apprehensive about posting the full build here based on how I've seen some people treated over their builds. But I am doing a 9800x3d, some kind of MSI motherboard, 48gb of 6400/cl32, teamgroup 2tb m.2, thermalright aio, lian li 011 dynamic evo, and ill use my evga g+ 1000 from my current build.

I know I am paying more than necessary for GPU + Mobo + Case, but the amount I am paying unncessarily should be offset if I can sell my existing GPU/CPU/RAM/Mobo

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and even if I cant sell it, a week or two of overtime which I get every week will cover the additional cost

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whats left of my work bonus is funding most of this anyway

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Ive never done this level of 'premium' style build and its possible its the last build I ever do so Im not that bothered

keen nacelle
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Pretty decent list, just pls don't spend more than 200-250 on mobo max

modest shuttle
lusty cipher
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lol

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calling customer service is a "crap"show

keen nacelle
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O11 is normally a bit overpriced but if you like specifically that case more than similar cases like the king 65, nv5, king 95, antec c3/c5, etc its reasonable

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Newegg customer service is ass

lusty cipher
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i was literally being treated like i was an autistic child

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they were so demeaning

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for no f****** reason

keen nacelle
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Let's not use autistic as a negative

lusty cipher
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im autistic lol

keen nacelle
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Same

lusty cipher
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im saying how ppl treat autistic children

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like the way they talk down

keen nacelle
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K

modest shuttle
keen nacelle
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Makes sense

modest shuttle
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Ive never been into RGB but something has taken ahold of me

keen nacelle
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What aio are you going for?

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Thermalright has a lot of good choices

modest shuttle
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Thankfully I found a cheaper set of fans than the $40 Lian Li's

keen nacelle
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Some $80-120 options with an LCD display too

keen nacelle
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Nice

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Solid aio

modest shuttle
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this one should match the Thermalright fans im using

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or planning to use

keen nacelle
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M12s?

keen nacelle
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Nice

modest shuttle
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$65 for all my fans versus $400 for Lian Li's

keen nacelle
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If you want to spend the $30 extra for the hell of it that 2tb p41 is as good as gen 4 ssds get

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Gaming wise it won't make much of a difference tho

keen nacelle
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Gotta love thermalright

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Literally the only company I shill

modest shuttle
keen nacelle
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Yeah

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$900 4080 lol

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Not really better than a $900 5070 ti though

modest shuttle
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one of the ugliest models too rip

modest shuttle
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i almost bought a $1250 5080 earlier but gen chat talked me down lol

keen nacelle
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Good lmao

keen flax
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I thought those aios where like $100-$120 atleast

modest shuttle
keen flax
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And pretty damn good

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I know what to use when I spec mine out next year lmao

cold fox
modest shuttle
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no one knows how they are making money

cold fox
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They work great so

cold fox
keen flax
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I'm super happy with what I have rn only thing that was lacking was the cpu and I kinda fixed that with a 5700x3d I ordered

keen flax
keen nacelle
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5700x3d is a little light for 9070xt but just a bit, should be a decent pairing

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Varies on the game but you'll still get plenty of frames

keen flax
keen nacelle
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100%

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Around a 20% upgrade

keen flax
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I really can't justify spending about $750 for a 9800x3d, Mobo and ddr5 yet

keen nacelle
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Understandable

lusty cipher
keen nacelle
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Resell the 5600x for 80-100ish and you pay for half of your upgrade lol

keen flax
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But I will upgrade to whatever is the equivalent of that sometime mid-end next year

lusty cipher
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i had it earlier today

lusty cipher
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its cus its the sappire nitro+

keen nacelle
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$860 for a 9070xt is criminal

keen flax
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I learned my lesson with the 5600x, don't buy a mid range CPUs and expect it to be good for 5+ years without performance drops lol

lusty cipher
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maybe its good it canceled then

keen flax
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I'll just list it for $120 so someone can offer me $90-100

lusty cipher
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is that the same one?

modest shuttle
keen nacelle
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Yes, diff psu, but i still wouldn't buy it personally

keen flax
lusty cipher
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its a 1080p

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oh nvm

keen flax
cold fox
lusty cipher
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but its a 555 dollar monitor

cold fox
keen nacelle
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Yeah, oleds are expensive as hell

lusty cipher
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is that even worth it tho

cold fox
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But

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You save 200$ on the 9070xt

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Meaning it’s like

keen flax
cold fox
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350$

lusty cipher
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which would u choose

cold fox
lusty cipher
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the oled or the psu

keen flax
cold fox
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OLED

keen flax
cold fox
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You save a lot of money

lusty cipher
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but isnt the nitro + better than the steel legend?

cold fox
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Not for a 200$ difference

keen flax
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I don't like 12pin power

keen nacelle
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Minorly

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Unless you're big into overclocking it isn't a worthwhile difference

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And can make it white since the gpu is white

lusty cipher
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it will be more expensive for me, cus im getting an 7 9800x3d

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i think ill have to do the psu

cold fox
keen nacelle
lusty cipher
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i do for what imma do with that pc

cold fox
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I’d take the OLED and a slightly worse psu

cold fox
lusty cipher
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i do heavy modding

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in games

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especially minecraft

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and a lot of vr titles

keen nacelle
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My friend ran crazy craft on a 3400g

cold fox
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Does Minecraft even take advantage of l3

keen nacelle
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No

lusty cipher
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i use distant horizons mod

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it needs a lot of power

cold fox
keen nacelle
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Anyways, look at the two lists I sent

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Gpu is just a placeholder for the woled bundle

cold fox
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Get a 9900x if you really need that

keen nacelle
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Dual ccd nonsense

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Adds latency for games

keen flax
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Nahhh 9800x3d is where it's at

cold fox
cold fox
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He technically saves money

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With the OLED bundle

keen flax
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Yeah haha

cold fox
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He’s spending 200$ less on the gpu

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He can get the 9700x or wtv and the build will be the same cost

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Maybe

keen flax
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My LG C3 ruined my LG IPS monitor that I considered good before hahaha

keen nacelle
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It is a first generation WOLED, not as good as some other options, but oled is oled

keen flax
keen nacelle
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100%

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Oled is oled

cold fox
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Yeah

keen nacelle
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Even the crappy cooler master oled is better than any IPS display

keen flax
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That's my next upgrade before upgrading all of my PC

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Getting a 240hz 1440p OLED

cold fox
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@lusty cipher mc doesn’t take advantage of l3 cache

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And idk about vr

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Isn’t vr single thread

keen nacelle
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Varies on the game

lusty cipher
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Exactly what I was gonna say

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I’m gonna do some calculations

keen nacelle
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Some games see up to a 30% improvement from it

cold fox
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Yeah true

cold fox
keen nacelle
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A $550 monitor is certainly not for everyone lol

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Best way to get a 9070xt right now though

cold fox
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You could exchange it for a 520hz monitor

lusty cipher
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rate this

modest shuttle
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Should pick one channel to post in, #building-and-recc-chat is usually good for these talks or general where it was already posted

hot bough
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though in most cases, no.

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for example, vanilla mc with or without shaders tends to run better on the non v-cache cpus due to the higher speed and no need for all that extra cache.

light radish
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New PC came in yesterday. So far I've only been downloading stuff and running benchmarks but it seems the 9070 is massively outperforming the 6700 XT. I can play Cyberpunk on max settings with ray tracing (just no path tracing) at 1440p (with FSR 3.1 Quality) at well over 60fps, usually in the 80s.

modest shuttle
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most reviewers didn't even include the 6700 in comparisons, I don't think there was ever a question it would be better

light radish
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I knew it was better, I just didn't realize it would be this much better lol

limber flax
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I'd be massively worried if it wasn't

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The damn thing is basically a 5080

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Oh sorry I was thinking of the xt

light radish
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Ray tracing was practically unthinkable on 6700 XT and now I'm ray tracing at 60+ fps

limber flax
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9070 is 5070

modest shuttle
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yeah RT is good

limber flax
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But better cause you get what you paid for

light radish
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Undervolting and raising the power limit got me a decent uplift too

limber flax
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Gets you closer to a 5080 lmao

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Its pretty funny how easy it is

modest shuttle
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i might flash the bios on my 70ti to try OC'ing for the first time

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but never done that before so we will see

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I do think it's funny the 9070 has a higher cost per frame than the XT though, granted only by a few dimes.

modest shuttle
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Yeah, the 9070 Taichi was the initial card I wanted until I learned about the power connect

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both the Nitro+ and the Taichi were the cards I wanted most from the XT line and they have the worst power connectors lol

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really like the backplate on the Taichi

lusty cipher
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Imma just not buy my cooler and do this instead 👍

modest shuttle
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Anyone know if the Gaming Trio is supposed to be 'better', worse or the same as the vanguard editions?

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MSI cant even list the specs on their own website

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they have the gaming trio $20 lower than the vanguard, which suggests it's slightly 'worse'. but Wegg has the gaming trio OC plus for the same price as the vanguard right now

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although with shipping it's $13 more, shipping was free through MSI

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looks like the vanguard is supposed to be the 'top tier' for the 70ti's

solemn panther
modest shuttle
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I dont love that MSI seemingly took orders without being ready to ship, but understand

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lmao

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literally was just googling their average shipping time and got this email

dusk nexus
#

@modest shuttle you end up getting your GPU?

modest shuttle
dusk nexus
#

ayye very nice what did you grab?

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was it the 70 ti vanguard?

modest shuttle
#

indeed

dusk nexus
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very nice man!

modest shuttle
#

we will see if it has all the ROPs 😄

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I fully expect to get an email for the priority queue once right after i get it and cant return it too

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as long as it has all the ROPs I will order the rest of the build and stop watching GPU trackers

modest shuttle
#

thanks, i should change my name to 'pays over msrp andy' or some nonsense 😄

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shipping from Cali too, I expected their store to be east coast. maybe its just a dist center

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although i wonder if theres any real benefit to waiting for the gpu before ordering the build, im doing the build either way

keen flax
modest shuttle
#

yeah, i probably will this weekend

keen flax
#

What case are you choosing?

modest shuttle
#

lian li 011d

keen flax
#

That vanguard looks sweet

keen flax
#

In black or white?

modest shuttle
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Black, I would've done white if I had gotten a white card. Gonna do a vertical mount on the GPU too, or try to anyway

keen flax
modest shuttle
#

Yeah, I'm interested to see how it turns out, never thought I'd want RGB, or a vertical mount so this will be new territory for me

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Hoping it all comes together with minimal issues

keen flax
#

A couple of my friends have built on different variants of that case and they seem to have gone well

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It looks like a nice comfortable case to build in

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While looking great

modest shuttle
#

Yeah, it has a lot of features and options I probably won't even use, but I like the freedom it gives. Should be the cleanest looking build I've done

keen flax
#

Nice hope you also get some cable extensions to complete the build

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I got some Asiahorse ones to add to mine after I take everything apart to clean it

modest shuttle
#

I'm actually probably just going to order a full set of custom cables from moddiy or cablemod

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But I've been wondering if that's worth it since the only cables that should be visible are the GPU + motherboard, everything else should be behind the motherboard

modest shuttle
#

Anyone able to tell me if the type of cable for the 16 pin connectors on GPU's matter? like 2x8 pin to 12v 16-pin or 3x8 pin to 12v 16-pin?

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I am ordering a custom cable from MODDIY and want to make sure I get the 'best' option

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I wont be doing an angled connector or anything

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just one of these

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Here's what my PSU has

livid idol
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Unless you're using a 5090, then everything goes out the window

modest shuttle
#

these are the options

livid idol
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On a technical level, as long as the connector and wires are up to spec 2x 8 pin is fine. There's 3 12V lines in each 8 pin, and they'd go straight into the 6 12V lines on the 12V-2X6 side.

modest shuttle
#

the gpu comes with one, but it wont look good

dusk nexus
#

anyone have any ideas why i cant run poe on my 9070xt? its literally a stuttering mes

solemn panther
#

Poe?

modest shuttle
#

path of exile

dusk nexus
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path of exile sorry

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ive never had issues with it

solemn panther
#

Until you got the 9700xt?

dusk nexus
#

yea

solemn panther
#

What did u have before?

dusk nexus
#

3080

solemn panther
#

👀

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DDU is what the techies would say

dusk nexus
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i mighta fixed it, i forced an FPS cap

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i did that

solemn panther
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Ok

dusk nexus
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i did a fresh install and cleaned all the other drivers

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wow yea that was it. when i left the FPS uncapped it was giving me 1% lows of 15

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soon as i capped it im getting between 145-165

modest shuttle
#

i wonder what length is necessary for the power cable

odd siren
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30cm or more

modest shuttle
#

yeah i was thinking 12-16

odd siren
#

1st hand experience

modest shuttle
#

the cables will cost more than my some of my components 😄

odd siren
#

Cablemod custom is like that yeah. That's why I try buy the pre-made ones

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Much cheaper if you have a compatible unit

modest shuttle
#

well even the 'kit' is $100

odd siren
#

Used they go cheap

modest shuttle
#

and the kit doesnt come with the 12v power cable for the gpu

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thats another $40

odd siren
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They should have kits with a 12vhpwr

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That's odd

modest shuttle
#

i also read that cablemod has a way worse track record with these gpu connectors

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granted its mostly the angled connectors

odd siren
#

The angled connectors are fine

odd siren
#

They're wired like normal cables

modest shuttle
#

here's whats in that kit

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i can get a similar kit from MODDIY for about $15 more with the gpu cable

modest shuttle
#

i looked at just getting the individual cables that will be visible but it ends up being the same price

modest shuttle
#

yeah thats what ive been looking at, didnt see the kit with that one though their website is butts

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yeah EVGA G+ 1000

odd siren
#

Yeah I'd grab the kit

modest shuttle
#

oh wow

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they offer 4x8 pin connector

odd siren
#

Their h++ connectors are the best fitting imo

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But could depend on your batch

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Mine have been good

odd siren
#

It's exactly the same

modest shuttle
#

i tried asking earlier for opinions on MODDIY vs Cablemod but didnt find any answers

odd siren
#

Just less connectors

modest shuttle
#

reddit seems to largely favor MODDIY

odd siren
#

They spread the pins across more connectors which doesn't actually do anything

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3x8 is better

#

2x8 is better again if available but it's not

modest shuttle
#

well I could go 2x8 with MODDIY

odd siren
#

I would argue for either, but cablemod WILL replace your gpu if it melts (*their discretion ofc)

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They're really good

modest shuttle
#

$10 more for the mod kit

modest shuttle
odd siren
modest shuttle
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lmao

odd siren
#

Sue nvidia too while you're at it

modest shuttle
#

i also like that you can choose length on the moddiy

odd siren
#

I mean if you prefer them, go for it

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Both are good

modest shuttle
#

i have no experience with either so dont have a baseline

odd siren
#

Get 16 awg from moddiy if you have an option

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18awg is cablemod, 18awg is fine

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20awg or higher don't buy

modest shuttle
#

its weird it doesnt even say on the page to buy it what it is

odd siren
#

Moddiy doesn't skimp

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Both are fine

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You can probably find out with some searching around

modest shuttle
#

from my research it sounds like they choose the gauge based on your psu

odd siren
#

Which would mean you're at least getting 18

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Evga cables iirc are 18awg

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Been a while since I looked at my P2

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So can't remember immediately lol

modest shuttle
#

google says EVGA G+ 1000 should use 14awg lol

odd siren
#

Ok they're not 14awg

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Lol

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14awg would make them the thickest psu cables I own

modest shuttle
#

"The EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G+ power supply typically uses 18 AWG (American Wire Gauge) cables. Each 18 AWG wire can carry up to 15 amps over a 2-foot length, equating to approximately 180 watts per cable. However, the connectors, such as 6-pin or 8-pin PCIe, have a maximum current rating of 7 to 8 amps per pin. Therefore, while the wire gauge is sufficient, attention should be paid to the connector's current limitations."

odd siren
#

Yeah 18awg sounds right

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They're as thick as my seasonic ones

modest shuttle
#

its wild to me that info isnt listed anywhere on evgas pages for the PSU

odd siren
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It's not a common question

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Brands also don't really want to project they're selling something that could be average or better than others just to be later undercut

modest shuttle
#

Well, thanks for the insight. I will order one or the other tomorrow along with the rest of the build, time to get catch some zzzz's

odd siren
#

Np

light radish
#

Even with a 9070 I can't run Wukong at 1440p Cinematic settings at 60+ fps smh

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Even 1080p upscaled to 1440p it's regularly dipping below 60. But It'd probably run a lot better if I wasn't on Cinematic mode. I believe Cinematic uses ray tracing so that's probably why. And the game unfortunately doesn't use FSR 4 because it has FSR 3 instead of FSR 3.1

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Minecraft with ray tracing runs great though

livid idol
#

Wukong is also notoriously Nvidia favored

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To the point where it's one of like 3 or 4 games that the 4070 ti wins by a decent margin over the 9070 XT

merry cosmos
#

Rtx 6060 gon sound cool

modest shuttle
odd siren
#

You use the same number of pins in 3 pcie vs 4

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They just spread them out more

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2x8 is ideal cos you just fill out the whole 2 pcie 8 pins instead of partially filling 3 or 4

modest shuttle
#

I wonder why the adapters most gpus come with are 3 instead of 2

odd siren
#

People think you get more

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Until you get one and you find you don't

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Lol

modest shuttle
#

Ok thanks

native lagoon
#

Does anyone know where I got get this GPU or at least a 4070 in general

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Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card white

keen nacelle
#

you can't

native lagoon
#

Are they just out ?

cold fox
native lagoon
cold fox
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yeah thats normal

native lagoon
#

So it is just waiting game at this point

native lagoon
cold fox
#
#

this is a super good deal rn

native lagoon
#

Well truth be told I have most of the parts I need I am just missing the GPU

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This server help me with my build

cold fox
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ah ok

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yeah its just the waiting game

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6950xt usually go for like sub 500 there

native lagoon
cold fox
#

uh

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no clue

native lagoon
#

Ok thank you

cold fox
#

whats your price range for a gpu

keen nacelle
native lagoon
keen nacelle
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there's a few places i check but they mostly post during the week

native lagoon
cold fox
#

ah

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well gl

native lagoon
keen nacelle
#

what's the rest of your specs?

native lagoon
keen nacelle
#

did you buy all of it aside from the gpu?

cold fox
#

is everything bought

native lagoon
keen nacelle
#

the psu isn't good anymore, it used to be but thermaltake swapped parts on it

cold fox
#

oh

cold fox
native lagoon
#

Not sure been awhile since I bought it

cold fox
#

well if you can, id get one of these

native lagoon
#

I will check when I bought it

cold fox
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wait

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nvm

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yeah

native lagoon
#

So yes or no lol

cold fox
#

if you can return those psus should be good, lemme see if theres another good deal

keen nacelle
#

the cooler master 850w gold at $95

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that's my recc rn

cold fox
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oh yeah

#

that

native lagoon
native lagoon
#

Ok gotcha

cold fox
keen nacelle
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850w?

cold fox
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750w but its A+

keen nacelle
#

eh

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750w should be 80

cold fox
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true

native lagoon
#

So which one should I try to switch it for?

native lagoon
#

Ok thank you I well see if I can switch

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I bought it at mirco center but I got it with the insurance they provided so maybe I can switch

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I will have to see

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By any chance either on you might know the answer?

keen nacelle
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im really not sure

native lagoon
#

Ok I will ask

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Thank you

keen nacelle
native lagoon
keen nacelle
#

if it was more than 8 months ago it's probably not affected by the swapped parts

native lagoon
#

So upon checking they do not have the 850x they only have the 850 and 750 in white

keen nacelle
#

rm850 and 750? either is fine

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msi agl is also good

native lagoon
native lagoon
native lagoon
keen nacelle
#

yeah it'll give you some more headroom gpu wise

#

both A tier though

native lagoon
#

Ok thank you

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Spoke with the store and cannot return it back unfortunately

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So I guess I am stuck with it unfortunately

keen nacelle
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it's a toss up between either a decent psu or a low end one, you'll know pretty soon after putting a gpu in the system that needs a good amount of power

native lagoon
#

So it sounds like I should sell it and use that money to get another one

keen nacelle
#

it's not a bad idea, but it's up to you. worst case scenario you have to do that later on

native lagoon
#

Ok I'll take your advice regardless I can't build rn because of the GPU

keen nacelle
#

there's a seller on ebay i have saved that refurbs gpus, wazno, they post during the week

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newegg refreshed is also good

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zotac was posting refurbs/open box but that well might have dried up, it's been a minute since they posted anything decent

native lagoon
#

Ok I'll give it a try

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What is they eBay seller

keen nacelle
#

wazno

native lagoon
#

So would I use the GPU then a 4070?

keen nacelle
#

9070>4070

cold fox
native lagoon
#

Would use the PSU as well

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?

keen nacelle
#

yeah rme is good

native lagoon
#

Ok with this then I can get my build done faster 😁

keen nacelle
#

i do want to say it isn't a great price, but with the current market it's just an easy option

native lagoon
#

Well you know better then I do so I will listen

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I did have one question about my current PSU

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I did open the box to check it out but since I never used how can I list it on eBay to sell it?

keen nacelle
#

open box

native lagoon
#

Ok thanks

native lagoon
#

Question about the GPU I was checking the dimensions for the case I want to use and it states max length of gpu is 305mm and the 9070 is 320mm umm would that even fit?

keen nacelle
#

Ooof no it wouldn't

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I forgot the x3 is super limited gpu clearance wise

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I'm sorry

native lagoon
#

It's ok

#

Any other ideas for a white gpu

keen nacelle
#

Not really, unless you find a decently priced 5070

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And those are very hard to come by

#

Asrock steel legend 9070/9070xt would fit

native lagoon
#

And for PSU am I going with the Corsair then?

keen nacelle
modest shuttle
#

In the latest GN video they showed a workbench they have with a post it note reminder to turn off gsync, is gsync still used these days?

odd siren
#

It is

odd siren
modest shuttle
#

I wonder how much they have to keep stumbling before they do anything about it

odd siren
#

Honestly it's one step away from being intel levels of bad atp

quartz gull
#

I was just coming here to say the newest driver was screwing up my 4090

#

My card seemed locked at 2235 MHz core clock with the new update

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Like it wouldn't boost or ramp down it was just... Stuck

#

Even manually overclocking it wasn't working

livid idol
#

Time to ddu and downgrade then

cold fox
#

if you have bitlocker and windows 11 do you need bitlocker to enable safe start

#

@shy sluice sorry for ping but i need help on this

forest oasis
#

bitlocker is for drive encryption

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has nothing to do with safe mode

modest shuttle
#

the 5080 prices are wild

modest shuttle
#

still kicking myself for missing that $999 PNY 5080

cerulean rover
solemn panther
#

😆

modest shuttle
#

Maybe I dont understand enough about the hardware but I find it odd they're releasing a new line of cards when they can barely provide stock for the current ones

cerulean rover
#

We're just getting scraps that datacenters don't want

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And these are scraps that don't even work for 5070/5080/5090

modest shuttle
#

when they released their crypto mining card i understood because it couldnt be used as a standard gpu really

modest shuttle
keen nacelle
#

Nice

modest shuttle
#

still going too, no one wants it lmao

#

i wonder if they checked the ROPs and they were missing and it got returned lol

frank dagger
#

live kernel 141 error, what can i do to remedy my system?
microcenter hasn't been of any help and im still on the issue btw

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supposedly they said they tested, but their report says they only used OCCT like i did before

modest shuttle
# frank dagger supposedly they said they tested, but their report says they only used OCCT like...

Update/resinstall drivers, windows updates, latest chipset drivers, monitor gpu temps and power supply, check for overclocking issues (revert to defaults), google how to run system file checker and DISM to check for corrupt system files, test the gpu in another system, check the event viewer for issues with livekernalevent 141. The LiveKernelEvent 141 error is typically related to GPU issues, including driver failures, overheating, or hardware malfunctions. Could be faulty PSU, GPU or PCIe connection.

frank dagger
#

Maybe cpu replacement could be an option?

#

Clean install, everything is defaults, replaced psu 6 months ago

#

Also ram is fine for the 10th time

modest shuttle
#

If moving it to a different motherboard fixes it, that almost certainly would point to the motherboard being the problem. PCIe slot or lane issues, bios incompatibility or corruption, power delivery problems, RAM compatibility issues, chipset driver issues or OS conflict.

#

one of the red names likely has more knowledge on this, but i dont see how it's not a motherboard issue

frank dagger
#

I bought a new motherboard as well btw.
From b550 aorus pro p to a b550 asus tuf

#

To fix from back in February

modest shuttle
#

and youve done a full fresh windows install?

#

psu being a refurb could be an issue as well, there's so many things it could be

#

do you have anywhere other than microcenter for pc repair

keen nacelle
#

Hes tried like four different psus

#

That error is either gpu or psu related though

modest shuttle
#

finding an avenue for testing the gpu on another pc would be a good test

#

theres posts on microsoft forums mentioning moving the 3080ti to another computer makes the new computer start having the same issue

#

card could be cooked

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but if a diff motherboard makes it all go away, that says the gpu is fine

#

so its weird

keen nacelle
#

Could be pcie power issue

modest shuttle
#

time to save for a new build 😄

frank dagger
#

Guess amd is better than nvidia then

#

Im no longer getting picture after reseating on the b550 and different slots

keen nacelle
#

Ooof

frank dagger
#

$1,200 gpu btw

keen nacelle
#

What gpu is it?

#

3090?

frank dagger
#

3080ti fe

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Stock.

keen nacelle
#

You can maybe find someone to repair it

frank dagger
#

No one in California is experienced. Even microcenter stupidly is arrogant

#

Thing is, the icue lcd aio is able to display. But not monitors

modest shuttle
#

nvidias recent track record certainly doesnt do them any favors, but one bad card doesnt mean the entire brand is bad, if that were the case every single brand in PC components is bad

frank dagger
#

Been thinking I've had problems on other parts. So then i guess the 3080ti was the problem since the start

keen nacelle
#

If you want to start looking at a replacement

frank dagger
keen nacelle
#

Bruh

frank dagger
#

They'll fund the amd card in july

#

Still pretty frustrated at microcenter, they're supposed to be the best from what i was told here

modest shuttle
#

theyre only as good as the person running the tests

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and im sure they dont pay well enough to attract top talent

#

that open box doesnt seem to be going anywhere lol

frank dagger
#

I'd probably perfer the xt though.
Also think i could find specifically where the 3080ti fe gpu got messed up if i open it up?

modest shuttle
#

not unless you have a deep understanding of PCB's

#

and the tools to test circuits and soldering stuff

frank dagger
#

Correct, nobody in California can solder

modest shuttle
#

well yeah anyone smart fled california years ago lol

livid idol
#

Unless they're too broke to afford to move (me)

#

Sorry to say I'm in the right place for you and I have the skills, just not the tools.

modest shuttle
#

yeah the market is cooked pretty much everywhere unless youre willing to live somewhere like tornado alley

#

and interest rates make it all a wash

dusk nexus
#

What do you guys think about

Alienware AW2725DF OLED Gaming Monitor for 599?

Vs

ASUS ROG Strix 27” 1440P OLED Gaming Monitor (XG27AQDMG) - QHD $650 + MHW copy?

odd siren
#

The problem for 141 is definitively power

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Question is which part

frank dagger
#

Any gpu price trackers? Probably may replace it with similar 30 serirs part since current gpus are high.

modest shuttle
frank dagger
#

Prices not stock

modest shuttle
#

Not sure that exists. That website also shows prices

livid idol
#

PCpartpicker has a tracker but it only works for parts sold as new from major retailers

frank dagger
#

Ima jinx it. I swapped to the b350. It doesn't crash immediately upon boot.
Either its the motherboard, how the cpu can't handle 4 sticks, or some other garbage cursed thing.

#

I have a motherboard tester i bought from microcenter. I'll learn that later and I'll repaste the gpu anyways

odd siren
#

I'll be really happy for ya if it works

#

I know the pain of having a half broken rig for a long time

#

Not 2 years long tho

#

Can't even imagine

frank dagger
#

i did swap to the b350 while waitin for another motherboard, but it's still terrible that im missing out on quite abit of preformance, m.2 storage, and ram having to go back to an old motherboard.

rich kettle
#

Anyone know when they are dropping 5090s

wicked hound
#

Depends on retailer

frank dagger
#

Yeah, i jinxed it. Crashed. Gpu is likely problem

frank dagger
#

Though isn't there supposed to be artifacts and such before it dies out?

cerulean rover
#

It's a common sign but it's not always there

fading glacier
#

mine is on 572.16 from january 30, no problems so far o.O but better safe than sorry

#

nvm, rolling back to my old 566.03 just for safety

karmic frigate
modest shuttle
#

i suggested using event viewer

odd siren
#

We all did

#

Lol

#

He has 141 errors. Power

frank dagger
#

Um... guys...

#

Whats this?

#

Probably corrosion?

keen nacelle
#

Looks burnt

forest oasis
#

looks like residual flux

frank dagger
#

So is it ded?

#

Im continuing the disassembly to see the front side

forest oasis
#

no, just the type of flux they use for soldering

frank dagger
#

Or ya need a better look?

forest oasis
#

it could either be flux or it could be burnt

#

burnt is a sign of a dead component
flux is just a sign of... not really anything

#

what is on the other side of it?

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the pcb

frank dagger
#

Ye, the dye.
Lookin to see if its bad on the front

#

If that spot shows anything else

#

This dang fan connector is hard to get off

forest oasis
#

no i mean what is on the other side of where you circled

#

like what component

frank dagger
#

I dunno. Thats what im trying to see. If there's physical damage to the gpu. Since thats what maybe causing issues

livid idol
#

Flux would look more like this

livid idol
forest oasis
#

i've seen some cheaper flux or such kinda end up yellow ish

#

hmm

#

that does make sense considering how big the pads and pins are

#

guess that overheated

frank dagger
#

Thats why... its probably damaged

#

The power issues were probably a burnt chip

livid idol
forest oasis
#

huh it only uses 4 of the pins for power

#

interesting

#

unless those other 2 are also power but just placed slightly offset

livid idol
#

No it just combines into two sets of two

#

30 series FE split the load, later revisions of 12VHPWR removed that split

forest oasis
#

😔

#

🔥

frank dagger
#

Correct, the power delivery is fudge

#

So um...

wut do?

livid idol
#

Got tools for reflowing?

frank dagger
#

No

#

So i guess the corsair psu took my gpu with it...

#

And i didn't know till now

junior locust
#

Can always try the oven method if you need to reflow stuff

#

It's not a high chance of success but it is a chance

#

This is in no way shape or form me advising it as a good option BTW

livid idol
#

Corsair is somewhat decent about their PSU warranty if you can show the damage to other components

livid idol
junior locust
#

Ye

#

Goodwill toaster oven

frank dagger
#

Its been 6 months since i put the warranty. They'll actually continue the warranty for me?

junior locust
#

Don't poison yourself it ain't worth it

livid idol
#

Contact them and find out

#

Tell them it never worked properly after the PSU died and show the "burnt" pins

frank dagger
#

If that fails... i think i know one place who can sauder. It was a small show in k-town. But they re-saudere my 3ds before... it won't hurt to ask

junior locust
#

Oven reflow is always the last ditch

#

It can break still working stuff after all

frank dagger
#

Im gathering documentation as well to send to corsair

#

Still want me to try 99% alchool to rub or naw?

#

Also i still gotta bother with repasting, but should i even go forward with the thermal pad replacement, or just put the old stuff back on?

junior locust
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I wouldn't bother with alcohol

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Just put the old stuff back and ressemble methinks

frank dagger
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Its already in, but i think i freakin stripped a tension screw when putting it back to check its secure.
It was by hand btw. Gosh damn it hexa screws

random walrus
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if you stripped a hex screw by hand either its made of pure chineseium or you're using too small of a driver

frank dagger
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I-fix it kit

forest oasis
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that doesnt make any difference

boreal turret
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It’s possible to get 4070s or 5070s right now

odd siren
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If you pay the price to the tune of a retail scam right now yes that's possible

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At a good price worth the value of the card no

boreal turret
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Sry I just woke up but I meant to make that question not statement

odd siren
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Yeah probably

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No one will know the true answer to that

plush acorn
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🔮

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consult ur crystal ball for him mr techie

wicked hound
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?8Ball

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Nooo, 8ball command dead

modest shuttle
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?ddu

neat ventureBOT
boreal turret
solemn panther
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Has anyone won the shuffle?

boreal turret
odd siren
modest shuttle
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Did you say it's the older GPU's that don't have the temp sensors or Motherboards? I still dont see temps in hwinfo on the 5070

cerulean rover
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it should have everything in hwinfo64

modest shuttle
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i see it now, it needed an update

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lets benchmark it for the lulz

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6k higher than my 3080 score

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temps never went above 58

solemn panther
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Card?

modest shuttle
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both cards are listed, first in the text and in the picture

modest shuttle
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It's a chonky boy, had to pull one fan off the rad to check the ROPs. It's back in the box now and the 3080 has resumed functioning

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had a bit of a scare after putting the 3080 back in, after 15-20 minutes both my screens would just go black, but after installing some drivers it seems to be fine now

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I rolled back to 566.36

naive flicker
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Arc B580 ftw(i don't have one yet😔)

sleek willow
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I've never been one to tweak/OC GPU's but I did tweak this 9070 XT slightly with my minimal knowledge. These tests came back with an avg temp of 48 C. So far I've seen an improvement in games over the 3070 I had in there previously....

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I'm still on AM4 using the 5900x CPU

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Can CPUs affect GPU benchmark performance or is it all based on the specific GPU you bought and your tuned settings?