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XTX cards spike constantly to 550W
Whereas old 6900XTs went to 600-ish
It's somewhat par for the course
4090s do over 750w for example
5090s near 900
And yet I can still recommend 750W psus for 4090s if the pc is built correctly
Cos the number isn't the simple answer
So yeah don't worry about it tbh
It's just a funny high number
We consider that in our suggestions on the server
So you aren't likely to be affected by it
Damn lol I just got concerned when I saw that now haha
It took me a while to realise what it was myself when I first saw it lol
Same I didn't even see it last night
thank you! na i was just commenting that the link showed up as locked is all. i really appreciate the ping tho!
looks dope! did you get msrp?
what cpu do you have paired?
i5-13400f
Thanks bro
not sure how that pairs up with AMD, but ive seen some videos that the CPUS like a 3600(x?) paired with ARC leave alot on the table for performance i would look into that a bit just to make sure. i may be wrong tho
It’s a bit weird but iirc it’s a drivers issue
Yeah they found that the b580 performs less with weaker cpus
But mine is stronk enouf
i get really good fps at 1440p
This has been a great upgrade from my old rx 580
Proud to have an all intel build 🗿
this thing has been a beast! it basically crushing any of the games ive thrown at it. (I dont play triple A games so i suppose this isnt as impressive) but i can pin it to 165 Hz (monitors cap) in anything i play maxed out
how dare you not have 240hz or more with a 9070xt
Yeah I’m gonna pair it with a 9700x
From the mc bundles
I’m gonna be running 180hz until I can cba to get an OLED 1440p 240/360hz monitor
It's a big upgrade
good luck on that
And I got a crazy good deal on my pc
ill stick with my 1440p 240hz ips for 198
Oled is kinda bigger than just a panel difference
Cos it's not only colour and contrast
But also input latency, responsiveness
Sharpness
It kinda covers a huge gamut
i have to see it to want to buy it
The latency improvement on oled vs other tech alone gives as much benefit as a couple gpu upgrades as far as fps uptick goes
It's a big money drop for sure but there's quite tangible benefit if you shop smart
That’s why I’m gonna be looking at them when I go to microcenter lmao
Oh yeah try it before you buy it
i dont live near microcenter 
We have other suggestions if you aren't keen
I live like 2-3 hours away
i live like 5 hours away
My dads gonna take me up the 29th for mc run and sabers game
lucky
That's my next update haha
Ehh you can find them around 550
I wanna upgrade my monitor, but I need to upgrade my CPU too and that means cpu/ram/Mobo 💀
I want that sweet 9800x3d
updated cost per frame from recent hardware unboxed video
720 at 1440p was about right for estimated 9070xt value
Puts it at the upper half
Which is ok, not the best
4K looks very different tho

I'm honestly getting close to being over all of this and just overpaying for one or the other
It sounds super arrogant but a couple hundred bucks isn't that important to me
Not sure if this is appealing to you, $850 refurb xtx
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-11322-02-20g/p/N82E16814202429T?Item=N82E16814202429T
I think at that point I'd just spend $100 more and get a 5070ti
knowing the group that appeals to 
Huh?
whats your current GPU?
Good thing I got my 9070xt for 670 and then my parents paid for 300$ of it
3080
4k or 1440?
Thats what i upgraded from as well
1440, dont have a 4k monitor
same so i will say this unless you NEED it in the games your playing just wait it out it isnt that big of a deal. i bought this to give my wife the 3080 bc her 5600XT had basically hit its limit
Anyone know if a chart like this exists for 5070ti's?
It's still too new and no one is able to get any stock of each model to test
Especially since AIBs just added another dozen models you can't buy
Lol same
I think I'd get it if I get picked for that $999 one haha
And sell the 9070xt for what I paid
Or I should still be able to return it
I'm gonna go for the $999 and $1200 one
my powercolor rx5700 has a flashing red light behind it, what does it mean? its this card https://pcpartpicker.com/product/77TzK8/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-8-gb-video-card-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhoc
it sometimes freezes and pretty often on startup has a corrupted display, which is fixed by turning off and on the monitor
Is the Asus Prime 9070 OC (non xt) really worth $660? I landed an order on amazon but I don’t know if that is just overpaying or not
It's overpriced compared to MSRP but it's ALMOST within reason
Normally MSRP or 5% over MSRP is the reasonable pricing
Wait it's a non-XT
Then it's blergh
Yeah I mean it’s 20% over msrp but is that just how this goes?
Though that might be post-tariffs MSRP
I'm not sure about it
But Asus usually has higher prices for any given "tier" of card
Asus tax be like
Yea I wanted to get an xfx but that’s basically impossible
What can compete with the 9070 for 650 used?
6900xt should be $450-500 in the US
Or 6950xt
3080 12gb/ti wouldnt be too far behind, id rather 16gb vram though
7900 gre/7900xt would probably be similarly priced to the 9070 or cost more atm
Hmm. Thank you, real torn on whether to keep it, cancel this order and wait for better prices, or just buy used now.
Buying used is probably smarter
Do you happen to want an oled monitor
@modest shuttle
No clue if you're in the market for an oled
But $670 9070xt bundled with one if you are
Yeah just being bundled with a $570 monitor is a really crappy option for most normal people lmao
I mean personally I'd make the argument for that being a solid package
But that's because I'm an OLED fanatic
I love my mini led but I still wish I had had the money for oled
thanks, but the only white card i will settle for is the Pure
best buy highlighting having the swift at $600 still while no one else does 😄
my powercolor rx5700 has a flashing red light behind it, what does it mean? its this card https://pcpartpicker.com/product/77TzK8/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-8-gb-video-card-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhoc
it sometimes freezes and pretty often on startup has a corrupted display, which is fixed by turning off and on the monitor
wtf
Oh sold out
Wait I hadn't seen that the 5080 only have 16gb of vram lol I thought it'd have 24gb like the 7900xtx
yeah thats kinda wild
I mean
9070xt with uv/oc = stock 5080
It’s undervolting
it depends on your silicon lottery
Don't want to make it run too hot
not all of them undervolt the same
Yeah
some people start crashing almost immediately and others can undervolt it to the extreme
good luck on the shuffle all
damn that msi 5070 was out of stock as soon as it went live
Is that pny 5080 any good?
i dunno, ive only owned pny hard drives and theyve failed every time
Yeah I've only owned a pny 4gb SD I bought in circuit City like 15 years ago lmao
"In online discussions, users have shared varied experiences with PNY GPUs. Some have reported positive outcomes, noting the brand's longstanding collaboration with NVIDIA and the quality of their products. However, others have expressed concerns about customer service and product longevity. One user mentioned a PNY card failing after four months and faced challenges with the warranty process, advising potential buyers to consider other brands. "
Seems like the same story as all brands
you either get a good card, or you get screwed and spend a long time fighting with bad support
I will say, seeing that PNY 5080 at $999 raises my eyebrows at the 5070ti's listed for $999
I think the only real downside is its a pretty ugly/basic card
I've asked in a few different Discords and it's almost universally positive for PNY as a brand
Yep that's what I've seen too
I don't really care about looks tbh
As long as it performs and cools itself properly I'm happy haha
if im gonna drop a full stack id like it to look good 😄
if i get the pure from the shuffle its really gonna mess up my build since its all black lmao
really hoping i get picked for the MSI 5070
not sure theres any world where im paying that much for a gpu lol
maybe if my job paid for it or something lol
That is true hahaha
The regular one or ti?
the ti
that 5090 could pay for the new build im doing twice, and im overpaying for at least 3 components
I mean… there’s other gpus
I signed up for multiple
login
select what you want
wait to be disappointed
Can’t be disappointed about anything with the deal I got on my 9070xt
Well I wasnt referring to your deal, I was referring to selecting cards you want and getting the 'you werent selected' email.
could always drop $1100 on a zotac 😄
Lmao it costs the same as my PC too
Lol imagine paying $1000+ for a 5070ti
That's just crazy
it certainly looks weird next to the $999 5080 theyre doing in the shuffle
it's not going to ship till mid-april, but i wont tell you how much i paid for a 5070ti this morning as a backup plan 😛
im hoping to secure something else before it ships so i can cancel 😄
Exactly
Thst must've been a helluva deal for it to take so long haha
It's sold through Amazon but says earliest arrival date is 3 weeks from now, not exactly sure what theyre doing
was a Gigabyte too 😄
That’s more than my entire 9070xt build
Nice, they probably do that until they get the stock in
yeah or its shipping directly from another country, amazon germany was shipping a card the other day, it had a 4 week estimated arrival date
but it was being sold through amazon us
Yep that too
That one actually had the import costs baked into the cost which was interesting
as far as I can tell that PNY card and one low-end gigabyte card are the only 5080's under $1100
and the FE of course
But odds of getting an FE must be next to 0
Yep I'd love to get a FE though
Love how it looks
if my memory serves correctly the 3X FE's had issues with cooling which always made me skeptical
Nvidia's priority queue is the only way for Fe it's seems
True I do remember something like that
I think it was for the 3080 or 3090
I retract my statement
Unlock game-changing performance with the PNY GeForce RTX 5080 GPU, featuring 16GB GDDR7, NVIDIA Blackwell architecture, and AI-powered DLSS 4.
That's an ugly card lmao
damn they added a bunch of bundles with pure's and nitro+ cards
they really must be struggling to offload these Corsair PSU's lol
they didnt even include the nitro in the shuffle, they mustve done like 5 cards for shuffle and the rest to bundles 😄
Yup lol
My 3080 ti FE did have memory temp issues. I just changed out the thermal pads for UTP-8 thermal putty and now the memory and core hotpots are the same, never higher than 86C
6000 series reference also had bad cooling funny enough
The price at which even the bots don't want to buy 5070ti lmao
they sold out instantly so false
and all the 5070's going up at $900 have sold out almost instantly for the past 2 weeks
the mba cards looked fantastic tho which is a shame
any known issues with AMDs newest drivers?
My drivers went to crap
I was trying to clean up some pop up virus and deleted 1 too many things and I probably got something for my drivers in the process
Lol there's 9070xts for $750 bundled with (mostly overpriced) psus on newegg
Those have been going steady for a bit, almost down to only $900+ bundles
those corsair PSU's must not be great if they have so many to offload
I'm glad I can roll my PSU into my next build, one less thing to worry about researching
ive thought about getting a new one and slapping it into the build im replacing, then i can sell it as a full build instead of parting it out
but i think shipping a full build is probably even more stressful than individual parts
i really am kicking myself for not keeping my boxes
and looking at the prices of boxes, im gonna lose 10-15% just in shipping costs
if I use Jawa.gg I will lose even more
locally will be tough in my small town, i need to look at hardwareswap again
The profit margin is just so much higher on PSUs
Thankfully a few retailers still have sub $800 cards, but theyre disappearing quickly
Best Buy actually has 2 models at $600 which is wild
im surprised the 9070s are still up
scalpers must not be selling too well
are you trying to get a 90 series?
I was, but I got a 5070ti at a price I can live with and am calling it a day once it arrives. I will keep watching for good deals until then
hopefully it has all the rops 
Yep, I knew this would be used against me but I am not buying any of the other components for the build until I confirm the card is in working order.
if i was going to cancel the card i ordered it would need to be for an msrp 9070xt or 5070ti, beyond that ive kind of accepted what i paid
lol no, but it was a $900 5070ti
I got it directly from MSI last night or the night before. I wasn't really expecting the order to go through but now that it has, Ive kinda accepted Im overpaying
Arguably a better deal than the $1000 people were paying for 4080 supers up until a few months ago ig
its a brand i like and i quite like how the card looks so im fine with overpaying $150
im waiting for it to get here, ill confirm it has all the ROPs and then order the rest of the build
hm
the only 9070xt's i truly liked the look of were $900 so it's a win win for me
Whats the rest of the build gonna be?
Obv personal preference aesthetic wise matters, but
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t7tzC8
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Montech KING 65 PRO ATX Mid Tower
im so annoyed with newegg
Im kinda apprehensive about posting the full build here based on how I've seen some people treated over their builds. But I am doing a 9800x3d, some kind of MSI motherboard, 48gb of 6400/cl32, teamgroup 2tb m.2, thermalright aio, lian li 011 dynamic evo, and ill use my evga g+ 1000 from my current build.
I know I am paying more than necessary for GPU + Mobo + Case, but the amount I am paying unncessarily should be offset if I can sell my existing GPU/CPU/RAM/Mobo
and even if I cant sell it, a week or two of overtime which I get every week will cover the additional cost
whats left of my work bonus is funding most of this anyway
Ive never done this level of 'premium' style build and its possible its the last build I ever do so Im not that bothered
Pretty decent list, just pls don't spend more than 200-250 on mobo max
Welcome to the club, most of us on launch day for the 9070xt got hosed
O11 is normally a bit overpriced but if you like specifically that case more than similar cases like the king 65, nv5, king 95, antec c3/c5, etc its reasonable
Newegg customer service is ass
i was literally being treated like i was an autistic child
they were so demeaning
for no f****** reason
Aight dude
Let's not use autistic as a negative
im autistic lol
Same
K
I was originally going to do a NV5 mk2, but then saw the RGB kit is $70, and then I found some builds using the 011 and fell in love
Makes sense
Ive never been into RGB but something has taken ahold of me
Thankfully I found a cheaper set of fans than the $40 Lian Li's
Some $80-120 options with an LCD display too
M12s?
Nice
$65 for all my fans versus $400 for Lian Li's
If you want to spend the $30 extra for the hell of it that 2tb p41 is as good as gen 4 ssds get
Gaming wise it won't make much of a difference tho
Yeah lmao
Gotta love thermalright
Literally the only company I shill
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one of the ugliest models too rip
this is the only pill that's hard to swallow. seeing the PNY 5080 in the shuffle for $999 made me a little sus about the 70ti
i almost bought a $1250 5080 earlier but gen chat talked me down lol
Good lmao
Wait it's only $60??
I thought those aios where like $100-$120 atleast
thermalrights are the cheapest in the game
There’s some that are 50$
no one knows how they are making money
They work great so
It might be a loss leader
I'm super happy with what I have rn only thing that was lacking was the cpu and I kinda fixed that with a 5700x3d I ordered
Fr lol
5700x3d is a little light for 9070xt but just a bit, should be a decent pairing
Varies on the game but you'll still get plenty of frames
Still should be better than the 5600x
I really can't justify spending about $750 for a 9800x3d, Mobo and ddr5 yet
Understandable
is their anychance of this restocking? https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4770430
Resell the 5600x for 80-100ish and you pay for half of your upgrade lol
But I will upgrade to whatever is the equivalent of that sometime mid-end next year
Yes, no clue when though
this is the order that got canceled
i had it earlier today
Probably, but that price is…
its cus its the sappire nitro+
$860 for a 9070xt is criminal
I learned my lesson with the 5600x, don't buy a mid range CPUs and expect it to be good for 5+ years without performance drops lol
maybe its good it canceled then
Yup they're selling locally for $100-140 for some reason lol
I'll just list it for $120 so someone can offer me $90-100
is that the same one?
if you really want to laugh at me, i ordered one of the $1k aorus master 9070xts but cancelled once i bagged the 70ti
Yes, diff psu, but i still wouldn't buy it personally
Nitro+ were 760 last week
Crazy how much they raised the prices
No?
but its a 555 dollar monitor
OLED
Yeah, oleds are expensive as hell
is that even worth it tho
Ehhhh I find that they're reasonably priced for how good they are
350$
which would u choose

the oled or the psu
If you can get it I would
OLED
Oled lmao
You save a lot of money
but isnt the nitro + better than the steel legend?
I doubt it
Not for a 200$ difference
I don't like 12pin power
Minorly
Unless you're big into overclocking it isn't a worthwhile difference
Example list, can do a cheaper cpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zqD9yW
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Radeon RX 9070 XT, SAMA 3509 ATX Mid Tower
And can make it white since the gpu is white
it will be more expensive for me, cus im getting an 7 9800x3d
i think ill have to do the psu
You don’t need a 9800x3d
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Radeon RX 9070 XT, SAMA 3509 ATX Mid Tower
i do for what imma do with that pc
I’d take the OLED and a slightly worse psu
Which is
My friend ran crazy craft on a 3400g
Does Minecraft even take advantage of l3
No
That’s cores
Anyways, look at the two lists I sent
Gpu is just a placeholder for the woled bundle
Get a 9900x if you really need that
Nahhh 9800x3d is where it's at
Oh true
Ngl
He technically saves money
With the OLED bundle
Yeah haha
He’s spending 200$ less on the gpu
He can get the 9700x or wtv and the build will be the same cost
Maybe
My LG C3 ruined my LG IPS monitor that I considered good before hahaha
It is a first generation WOLED, not as good as some other options, but oled is oled
Still better than most things LED
Yeah
Even the crappy cooler master oled is better than any IPS display
@lusty cipher mc doesn’t take advantage of l3 cache
And idk about vr
Isn’t vr single thread
Varies on the game
Some games see up to a 30% improvement from it
Yeah true
I mean it’s up to you
A $550 monitor is certainly not for everyone lol
Best way to get a 9070xt right now though
Should pick one channel to post in, #building-and-recc-chat is usually good for these talks or general where it was already posted
Yes/no. If you are running modded mc with a lot of terrain and entity mods it makes a huge difference. 110 vs 160 fps in my case.
though in most cases, no.
for example, vanilla mc with or without shaders tends to run better on the non v-cache cpus due to the higher speed and no need for all that extra cache.
New PC came in yesterday. So far I've only been downloading stuff and running benchmarks but it seems the 9070 is massively outperforming the 6700 XT. I can play Cyberpunk on max settings with ray tracing (just no path tracing) at 1440p (with FSR 3.1 Quality) at well over 60fps, usually in the 80s.
most reviewers didn't even include the 6700 in comparisons, I don't think there was ever a question it would be better
I knew it was better, I just didn't realize it would be this much better lol
I'd be massively worried if it wasn't
The damn thing is basically a 5080
Oh sorry I was thinking of the xt
Ray tracing was practically unthinkable on 6700 XT and now I'm ray tracing at 60+ fps
9070 is 5070
yeah RT is good
But better cause you get what you paid for
Undervolting and raising the power limit got me a decent uplift too
i might flash the bios on my 70ti to try OC'ing for the first time
but never done that before so we will see
I do think it's funny the 9070 has a higher cost per frame than the XT though, granted only by a few dimes.
Yeah, the 9070 Taichi was the initial card I wanted until I learned about the power connect
both the Nitro+ and the Taichi were the cards I wanted most from the XT line and they have the worst power connectors lol
really like the backplate on the Taichi
Anyone know if the Gaming Trio is supposed to be 'better', worse or the same as the vanguard editions?
MSI cant even list the specs on their own website
they have the gaming trio $20 lower than the vanguard, which suggests it's slightly 'worse'. but Wegg has the gaming trio OC plus for the same price as the vanguard right now
although with shipping it's $13 more, shipping was free through MSI
looks like the vanguard is supposed to be the 'top tier' for the 70ti's

I dont love that MSI seemingly took orders without being ready to ship, but understand
lmao
literally was just googling their average shipping time and got this email
@modest shuttle you end up getting your GPU?
its on the way now, anytime between the 26th and 31st
indeed
very nice man!
we will see if it has all the ROPs 😄
I fully expect to get an email for the priority queue once right after i get it and cant return it too
as long as it has all the ROPs I will order the rest of the build and stop watching GPU trackers
congrats
thanks, i should change my name to 'pays over msrp andy' or some nonsense 😄
shipping from Cali too, I expected their store to be east coast. maybe its just a dist center
although i wonder if theres any real benefit to waiting for the gpu before ordering the build, im doing the build either way
I mean if you have the GPU, you can order the rest too
yeah, i probably will this weekend
What case are you choosing?
lian li 011d
That vanguard looks sweet
Black, I would've done white if I had gotten a white card. Gonna do a vertical mount on the GPU too, or try to anyway
Nice, vertical mounts look great on that case
Yeah, I'm interested to see how it turns out, never thought I'd want RGB, or a vertical mount so this will be new territory for me
Hoping it all comes together with minimal issues
A couple of my friends have built on different variants of that case and they seem to have gone well
It looks like a nice comfortable case to build in
While looking great
Yeah, it has a lot of features and options I probably won't even use, but I like the freedom it gives. Should be the cleanest looking build I've done
Nice hope you also get some cable extensions to complete the build
I got some Asiahorse ones to add to mine after I take everything apart to clean it
I'm actually probably just going to order a full set of custom cables from moddiy or cablemod
But I've been wondering if that's worth it since the only cables that should be visible are the GPU + motherboard, everything else should be behind the motherboard
Anyone able to tell me if the type of cable for the 16 pin connectors on GPU's matter? like 2x8 pin to 12v 16-pin or 3x8 pin to 12v 16-pin?
I am ordering a custom cable from MODDIY and want to make sure I get the 'best' option
I wont be doing an angled connector or anything
just one of these
Here's what my PSU has
Ideally you'll get a 12V-2x6 but besides that, it doesn't matter much.
Unless you're using a 5090, then everything goes out the window
these are the options
On a technical level, as long as the connector and wires are up to spec 2x 8 pin is fine. There's 3 12V lines in each 8 pin, and they'd go straight into the 6 12V lines on the 12V-2X6 side.
the gpu comes with one, but it wont look good
anyone have any ideas why i cant run poe on my 9070xt? its literally a stuttering mes
Poe?
path of exile
Until you got the 9700xt?
yea
What did u have before?
3080
Ok
i did a fresh install and cleaned all the other drivers
wow yea that was it. when i left the FPS uncapped it was giving me 1% lows of 15
soon as i capped it im getting between 145-165
30cm or more
yeah i was thinking 12-16
1st hand experience
the cables will cost more than my some of my components 😄
Cablemod custom is like that yeah. That's why I try buy the pre-made ones
Much cheaper if you have a compatible unit
well even the 'kit' is $100
i also read that cablemod has a way worse track record with these gpu connectors
granted its mostly the angled connectors
*adapters
The angled connectors are fine
They're wired like normal cables
here's whats in that kit
i can get a similar kit from MODDIY for about $15 more with the gpu cable
i looked at just getting the individual cables that will be visible but it ends up being the same price
nice
yeah thats what ive been looking at, didnt see the kit with that one though their website is butts
yeah EVGA G+ 1000
Tbh yeah it sucks ass lol
Yeah I'd grab the kit
Their h++ connectors are the best fitting imo
But could depend on your batch
Mine have been good
i tried asking earlier for opinions on MODDIY vs Cablemod but didnt find any answers
Just less connectors
reddit seems to largely favor MODDIY
They spread the pins across more connectors which doesn't actually do anything
3x8 is better
2x8 is better again if available but it's not
well I could go 2x8 with MODDIY
Moddiy is good, but cablemod support is better imo
I would argue for either, but cablemod WILL replace your gpu if it melts (*their discretion ofc)
They're really good
$10 more for the mod kit
what about my house if it burns down
lmao
Sue nvidia too while you're at it
i also like that you can choose length on the moddiy
i have no experience with either so dont have a baseline
Get 16 awg from moddiy if you have an option
18awg is cablemod, 18awg is fine
20awg or higher don't buy
its weird it doesnt even say on the page to buy it what it is
If it doesn't it'll be 18awg or 16awg
Moddiy doesn't skimp
Both are fine
You can probably find out with some searching around
from my research it sounds like they choose the gauge based on your psu
Which would mean you're at least getting 18
Evga cables iirc are 18awg
Been a while since I looked at my P2
So can't remember immediately lol
google says EVGA G+ 1000 should use 14awg lol
"The EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G+ power supply typically uses 18 AWG (American Wire Gauge) cables. Each 18 AWG wire can carry up to 15 amps over a 2-foot length, equating to approximately 180 watts per cable. However, the connectors, such as 6-pin or 8-pin PCIe, have a maximum current rating of 7 to 8 amps per pin. Therefore, while the wire gauge is sufficient, attention should be paid to the connector's current limitations."
its wild to me that info isnt listed anywhere on evgas pages for the PSU
It's not a common question
Brands also don't really want to project they're selling something that could be average or better than others just to be later undercut
Well, thanks for the insight. I will order one or the other tomorrow along with the rest of the build, time to get catch some zzzz's
Np
Even with a 9070 I can't run Wukong at 1440p Cinematic settings at 60+ fps smh
Even 1080p upscaled to 1440p it's regularly dipping below 60. But It'd probably run a lot better if I wasn't on Cinematic mode. I believe Cinematic uses ray tracing so that's probably why. And the game unfortunately doesn't use FSR 4 because it has FSR 3 instead of FSR 3.1
Minecraft with ray tracing runs great though
Wukong is also notoriously Nvidia favored
To the point where it's one of like 3 or 4 games that the 4070 ti wins by a decent margin over the 9070 XT
Rtx 6060 gon sound cool
out of curiosity, why is 2x8 better than 3?
Cos it uses less psu plugs as using more makes no real functional difference
You use the same number of pins in 3 pcie vs 4
They just spread them out more
2x8 is ideal cos you just fill out the whole 2 pcie 8 pins instead of partially filling 3 or 4
I wonder why the adapters most gpus come with are 3 instead of 2
Mindshare
People think you get more
Until you get one and you find you don't
Lol
Ok thanks
Does anyone know where I got get this GPU or at least a 4070 in general
Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card white
you can't
Are they just out ?
theres a major gpu shortage and all the prices are absurd
Yea I see on eBay and Amazon that 4070 are almost 800 or even 1000 rn
yeah thats normal
are you in usa?
So it is just waiting game at this point
Yes
CPU Brand: AMD, CPU Series: Ryzen 7, CPU Model: Ryzen 7 5700X, CPU Socket: AM4, CPU Core count: 8 cores, CPU Cooler Type: Air, CPU Cooler Socket: AM4, GPU Chipset: Nvidia, GPU Brand: Nvidia, GPU Series: GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER, GPU Memory: 8GB, Memory Capacity: 32GB, Memory Type: DDR4, Memory Number of Modules: 2, Memory Form Factor: DIMM (Deskto...
this is a super good deal rn
Well truth be told I have most of the parts I need I am just missing the GPU
This server help me with my build
ah ok
yeah its just the waiting game
stalk #tech-deals
6950xt usually go for like sub 500 there
Dam any idea how long lol
Ok thank you
whats your price range for a gpu
ill lyk tmrw
Thanks
there's a few places i check but they mostly post during the week
None as of now
Mind sending those links please 😁
what's the rest of your specs?
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER, Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower
did you buy all of it aside from the gpu?
is everything bought
Yes
the psu isn't good anymore, it used to be but thermaltake swapped parts on it
oh
can you return the psu?
Not sure been awhile since I bought it
well if you can, id get one of these
I will check when I bought it
So yes or no lol
if you can return those psus should be good, lemme see if theres another good deal
May I ask what is wrong with that PSU?
.
Ok gotcha
theres a core reactor for 90$
850w?
750w but its A+
true
So which one should I try to switch it for?
0
wait
copy paste didnt work
if you want white cables to match the PC https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xfLdnQ/corsair-rm850x-shift-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-side-interface-atx-power-supply-cp-9020274-na
Ok thank you I well see if I can switch
I bought it at mirco center but I got it with the insurance they provided so maybe I can switch
I will have to see
By any chance either on you might know the answer?
im really not sure
how long ago did you get it?
Not sure
if it was more than 8 months ago it's probably not affected by the swapped parts
So upon checking they do not have the 850x they only have the 850 and 750 in white
Yes
I'll take any and all advice
But it be better to go with the 850 correct?
Ok thank you
Spoke with the store and cannot return it back unfortunately
So I guess I am stuck with it unfortunately
it's a toss up between either a decent psu or a low end one, you'll know pretty soon after putting a gpu in the system that needs a good amount of power
So it sounds like I should sell it and use that money to get another one
it's not a bad idea, but it's up to you. worst case scenario you have to do that later on
Ok I'll take your advice regardless I can't build rn because of the GPU
there's a seller on ebay i have saved that refurbs gpus, wazno, they post during the week
newegg refreshed is also good
zotac was posting refurbs/open box but that well might have dried up, it's been a minute since they posted anything decent
wazno
So would I use the GPU then a 4070?
9070>4070
prices tho
yeah rme is good
Ok with this then I can get my build done faster 😁
i do want to say it isn't a great price, but with the current market it's just an easy option
Well you know better then I do so I will listen
I did have one question about my current PSU
I did open the box to check it out but since I never used how can I list it on eBay to sell it?
open box
Ok thanks
Question about the GPU I was checking the dimensions for the case I want to use and it states max length of gpu is 305mm and the 9070 is 320mm umm would that even fit?
Ooof no it wouldn't
I forgot the x3 is super limited gpu clearance wise
I'm sorry
Not really, unless you find a decently priced 5070
And those are very hard to come by
I'm not suggesting it at this price, but this fits in the case and should be around $620-650 (imo overpriced anyways but yknow, 2025 gpu market)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ypG2FT/gigabyte-eagle-oc-sff-geforce-rtx-5070-12-gb-video-card-gv-n5070eagleoc-ice-12gd
Or this would technichally fit, just barely
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H9JBD3/gigabyte-eagle-oc-ice-sff-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16-gb-video-card-gv-n507teagleoc-ice-16gd
Asrock steel legend 9070/9070xt would fit
And for PSU am I going with the Corsair then?
Prob this for white cables
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xfLdnQ/corsair-rm850x-shift-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-side-interface-atx-power-supply-cp-9020274-na
In the latest GN video they showed a workbench they have with a post it note reminder to turn off gsync, is gsync still used these days?
It is
I wonder how much they have to keep stumbling before they do anything about it
I was just coming here to say the newest driver was screwing up my 4090
My card seemed locked at 2235 MHz core clock with the new update
Like it wouldn't boost or ramp down it was just... Stuck
Even manually overclocking it wasn't working
Time to ddu and downgrade then
if youre on i gotta question
if you have bitlocker and windows 11 do you need bitlocker to enable safe start
@shy sluice sorry for ping but i need help on this
the 5080 prices are wild
still kicking myself for missing that $999 PNY 5080
Can't wait for 5060ti to be beyond crap and sell out because of hype and no one getting to see reviews beforehand
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-reportedly-launching-rtx-5060-ti-on-16th-april-with-reviews-embargo-lift/
😆
Maybe I dont understand enough about the hardware but I find it odd they're releasing a new line of cards when they can barely provide stock for the current ones
We're just getting scraps that datacenters don't want
And these are scraps that don't even work for 5070/5080/5090
when they released their crypto mining card i understood because it couldnt be used as a standard gpu really
Open box 5070ti if you're in the US, $752
Shop ASUS PRIME NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti OC Edition 16GB GDDR7 PCI Express 5.0 Graphics Card Black open box products at Best Buy. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up. Price Match Guarantee.
Nice
still going too, no one wants it lmao
i wonder if they checked the ROPs and they were missing and it got returned lol
live kernel 141 error, what can i do to remedy my system?
microcenter hasn't been of any help and im still on the issue btw
supposedly they said they tested, but their report says they only used OCCT like i did before
Update/resinstall drivers, windows updates, latest chipset drivers, monitor gpu temps and power supply, check for overclocking issues (revert to defaults), google how to run system file checker and DISM to check for corrupt system files, test the gpu in another system, check the event viewer for issues with livekernalevent 141. The LiveKernelEvent 141 error is typically related to GPU issues, including driver failures, overheating, or hardware malfunctions. Could be faulty PSU, GPU or PCIe connection.
No secondary gpu to test.
If anything its a long line of problems since 2021. But moving the system to a b350 motherboard makes everything work. So this is why its furiating
Maybe cpu replacement could be an option?
Clean install, everything is defaults, replaced psu 6 months ago
Also ram is fine for the 10th time
If moving it to a different motherboard fixes it, that almost certainly would point to the motherboard being the problem. PCIe slot or lane issues, bios incompatibility or corruption, power delivery problems, RAM compatibility issues, chipset driver issues or OS conflict.
one of the red names likely has more knowledge on this, but i dont see how it's not a motherboard issue
I bought a new motherboard as well btw.
From b550 aorus pro p to a b550 asus tuf
To fix from back in February
and youve done a full fresh windows install?
psu being a refurb could be an issue as well, there's so many things it could be
do you have anywhere other than microcenter for pc repair
finding an avenue for testing the gpu on another pc would be a good test
theres posts on microsoft forums mentioning moving the 3080ti to another computer makes the new computer start having the same issue
card could be cooked
but if a diff motherboard makes it all go away, that says the gpu is fine
so its weird
Could be pcie power issue
time to save for a new build 😄
Guess amd is better than nvidia then
Im no longer getting picture after reseating on the b550 and different slots
Ooof
$1,200 gpu btw
You can maybe find someone to repair it
No one in California is experienced. Even microcenter stupidly is arrogant
Thing is, the icue lcd aio is able to display. But not monitors
nvidias recent track record certainly doesnt do them any favors, but one bad card doesnt mean the entire brand is bad, if that were the case every single brand in PC components is bad
Been thinking I've had problems on other parts. So then i guess the 3080ti was the problem since the start
Naw, I'll start sellin my shares soon
Bruh
They'll fund the amd card in july
Still pretty frustrated at microcenter, they're supposed to be the best from what i was told here
theyre only as good as the person running the tests
and im sure they dont pay well enough to attract top talent
that open box doesnt seem to be going anywhere lol
I'd probably perfer the xt though.
Also think i could find specifically where the 3080ti fe gpu got messed up if i open it up?
not unless you have a deep understanding of PCB's
and the tools to test circuits and soldering stuff
Correct, nobody in California can solder
well yeah anyone smart fled california years ago lol
Unless they're too broke to afford to move (me)
Sorry to say I'm in the right place for you and I have the skills, just not the tools.
yeah the market is cooked pretty much everywhere unless youre willing to live somewhere like tornado alley
and interest rates make it all a wash
What do you guys think about
Alienware AW2725DF OLED Gaming Monitor for 599?
Vs
ASUS ROG Strix 27” 1440P OLED Gaming Monitor (XG27AQDMG) - QHD $650 + MHW copy?
It's incredible that even paid help couldn't help.
At this point yeah start swapping parts. We're basically short on ideas
The problem for 141 is definitively power
Question is which part
Any gpu price trackers? Probably may replace it with similar 30 serirs part since current gpus are high.
Look in general chat, I posted one
Prices not stock
Not sure that exists. That website also shows prices
PCpartpicker has a tracker but it only works for parts sold as new from major retailers
Ima jinx it. I swapped to the b350. It doesn't crash immediately upon boot.
Either its the motherboard, how the cpu can't handle 4 sticks, or some other garbage cursed thing.
I have a motherboard tester i bought from microcenter. I'll learn that later and I'll repaste the gpu anyways
Oh man fingers crossed
I'll be really happy for ya if it works
I know the pain of having a half broken rig for a long time
Not 2 years long tho
Can't even imagine
i did swap to the b350 while waitin for another motherboard, but it's still terrible that im missing out on quite abit of preformance, m.2 storage, and ram having to go back to an old motherboard.
Anyone know when they are dropping 5090s
Depends on retailer
Yeah, i jinxed it. Crashed. Gpu is likely problem
Though isn't there supposed to be artifacts and such before it dies out?
It's a common sign but it's not always there
how old? 😄
mine is on 572.16 from january 30, no problems so far o.O but better safe than sorry
nvm, rolling back to my old 566.03 just for safety
Windows has “Event log” app or something it should report msgs of all instabilities in the system, if you haven’t looked at it yet.
(Didn’t really scroll up so idk what you guys tried)
i suggested using event viewer
Looks burnt
looks like residual flux
no, just the type of flux they use for soldering
Or ya need a better look?
it could either be flux or it could be burnt
burnt is a sign of a dead component
flux is just a sign of... not really anything
what is on the other side of it?
the pcb
Ye, the dye.
Lookin to see if its bad on the front
If that spot shows anything else
This dang fan connector is hard to get off
I dunno. Thats what im trying to see. If there's physical damage to the gpu. Since thats what maybe causing issues
Flux would look more like this
PCIe power in
i've seen some cheaper flux or such kinda end up yellow ish
hmm
that does make sense considering how big the pads and pins are
guess that overheated
huh it only uses 4 of the pins for power
interesting
unless those other 2 are also power but just placed slightly offset
No it just combines into two sets of two
30 series FE split the load, later revisions of 12VHPWR removed that split
Got tools for reflowing?
Can always try the oven method if you need to reflow stuff
It's not a high chance of success but it is a chance
This is in no way shape or form me advising it as a good option BTW
Corsair is somewhat decent about their PSU warranty if you can show the damage to other components
Only do this in an oven you never use for anything else, especially food, because it releases toxic gas that sticks to the inside surface
Its been 6 months since i put the warranty. They'll actually continue the warranty for me?
Don't poison yourself it ain't worth it
Contact them and find out
Tell them it never worked properly after the PSU died and show the "burnt" pins
If that fails... i think i know one place who can sauder. It was a small show in k-town. But they re-saudere my 3ds before... it won't hurt to ask
I'd recommend asking them first
Oven reflow is always the last ditch
It can break still working stuff after all
Im gathering documentation as well to send to corsair
Still want me to try 99% alchool to rub or naw?
Also i still gotta bother with repasting, but should i even go forward with the thermal pad replacement, or just put the old stuff back on?
Its already in, but i think i freakin stripped a tension screw when putting it back to check its secure.
It was by hand btw. Gosh damn it hexa screws
if you stripped a hex screw by hand either its made of pure chineseium or you're using too small of a driver
I-fix it kit
that doesnt make any difference
It’s possible to get 4070s or 5070s right now
If you pay the price to the tune of a retail scam right now yes that's possible
At a good price worth the value of the card no
Will this will be the case in the summer?
Sry I just woke up but I meant to make that question not statement
?ddu
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
why are all the GPUs sold out rn
Has anyone won the shuffle?
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Did you say it's the older GPU's that don't have the temp sensors or Motherboards? I still dont see temps in hwinfo on the 5070
it should have everything in hwinfo64
i see it now, it needed an update
lets benchmark it for the lulz
6k higher than my 3080 score
temps never went above 58
Card?
both cards are listed, first in the text and in the picture
It's a chonky boy, had to pull one fan off the rad to check the ROPs. It's back in the box now and the 3080 has resumed functioning
had a bit of a scare after putting the 3080 back in, after 15-20 minutes both my screens would just go black, but after installing some drivers it seems to be fine now
I rolled back to 566.36
Arc B580 ftw(i don't have one yet😔)
I've never been one to tweak/OC GPU's but I did tweak this 9070 XT slightly with my minimal knowledge. These tests came back with an avg temp of 48 C. So far I've seen an improvement in games over the 3070 I had in there previously....
I'm still on AM4 using the 5900x CPU
Can CPUs affect GPU benchmark performance or is it all based on the specific GPU you bought and your tuned settings?
