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I offered 400
Yeah 400 is good
so we shall c
ty for the quick response
Make sure your PSU is up to scratch
yea I doubt it I have a 650
You kinda want a power budget of about 500-ish for the card itself minimum
If it's a nice one maybe, and the cpu isn't a volcano
I would have to check
I've been tryna keep my dinosaur pc relevant
Anyone with 50 series gpu suffering stutters in Ubisoft titles ?
upgraded from a i5-8400 to i7-9700k
still have a 1060 6gb n 32gb ram
There's some general stability issues with 50 series rn
all you can do with that is wait for driver updates
I've seen 50 series bricking itself with new drivers
And paul had 5080 issues
Nothing else so far that's firm
yea a bunch of reviewers report issues
Just all sounds like a bunch of chaos to me lmao
GN had cyberpunk 2077 just keep crashing with 5080 iirc
Did y'all see the new bundles they got for the 5090?
The cheapest one is $5400, including a $1200 monitor and a $650 motherboard
We love newegg
I wasn't too bothered by bundles before, but this is like selling a pre built without building it
I wonder how many people are out there trying to but a 5090 that legitimately need all those other things too
It's insane but also remember that's probably what scalpers sell the card itself for
So it's much harder for them to make bank with those bundles
Insane prices but at least it helps more genuine people get one
I wouldn't pay more than like 3.3K for a 5090 pc but is what it is
Yeah but how many genuine people are looking to buy a $1200 monitor while they're waiting on a GPU to come to stock?
Actually quite a lot of people honestly
We get a lot of people who come through, granted, nothing like the usual folk, who are just looking for that "Absolute best" setup
5400 is a lot, but at the least there will be a few genuine buyers in that if they're managing to stay in stock
I wouldn't spend that much personally, I take a much heavy bias to being value conscious
But at the very least I realise exactly who they're marketing for
As I put in gen chat earlier, if they weren't doing that, you probably would've never known the card was in stock anyway, given bots auto-scalp the site to begin with
Hell in Europe they barely even sold to anyone genuine whatsoever
Multiple major retailers there had purchase links leaked before the launch time so an hour before launch tons of those cards disappeared out of stock
Some retailers like asus were caught in real time jacking their prices like 2.5x
Again, totally get the sentiment, but mid covid we had a lot of this. 5400 is a hell of a lot of money, but at least whoever's buying it is getting something out of it instead of a retailer or scalper just ripping that price out of them for just the card yk
There will be genuine people buying those
I suppose, I'm just butthurt thats just more stock that I have no chance at
I was willing to do a bundle with like a single other component that I can sell to a friend or coworker
If I was building any new PC and had the money, I would have went for this
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4761841&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-Combo.4761841-_-02052025
OLED monitor too ๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ
A modem PSU would have been nice
no....
pls no
???? 5.5k???? and it includes not even everything????
like
they give you a mobo, psu, gpu, monitor, and kb&m
but no ram or cpu??? no storage
for 5.5k
im willing to bet newegg is just trying to clear out stagnant stock i swear like wtf
no theyre trying to overcharge people who either have more money than they know what to do with, or people who see "ooh 5090, buy"
i mean, considering the amount of reviews on the bundled products, i think it's safe to assume that they're also stagnant stock
thats fair
3 reviews psu, 2 reviews keyboard, 13 reviews mouse, while the monitor and mobo are the only ones that might be selling a bit more with 65 and 79 respectively
To be honest
Considering that it'd go to a scalper otherwise
I still think that bundle isn't the worst, none of the parts are technically bad from what I can tell except maybe the mouse?
You really need more money than sense to buy that but the prices are clearly stated, but that's still a better outcome to me than a scalper charging the same price for just the card and then that same person buying it
Yeah I get that man, but like I said, if they were gonna make it easy, then scalpers would snipe it anyway before you saw it most likely
Only one component is something they also would have an easy time with,
It sucks but peak covid it was like this everywhere
I feel bad for anyone however who buys that bundle just to get the gpu, it's intentionally deterring from that outcome
Like people who buy prebuilts just for the 90 card then try to flip it
Lol
Not sure why was there was an update on pricing for 5090s but why did it jump $250+?
Seems to be across the board
No one here can genuinely answer but they seem to all have gone up, implying an msrp change (or backend price change)
And it's sad
My guess is the recent 10% tariffs
Cos without msrp those cards are worse value than what we had before
Possible
$2000 org msrp, +10% and a bit to $2250 msrp seems reasonably likely
Warpig was saying PNY is the US manufacturer for nvidia
They might be the ones that stay lower priced
It's possible, but either way the chips are still coming from Taiwan rn, they still have an excuse to increase their prices
the n4 fab in arizona barely started production
i would keep my current PSU and storage
I would appreciate yall opinion on my PSU, was thinking of getting the rtx 5090 whenever I get the chance but I'm not sure if I should? I got a corsair HX1000i but it isn't atx 3.0? Should I buy a new one since the one I got is pre-2022??
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You wouldn't need a new psu
Also
It looks like today everyone jacked the price of the 5090
The tariffs seem to be in swing now just fyi
Think the only time you'd need a new psu is if you had some ridiculously powerful intel chip and even then, you'd easily get away with it with a few changes to settings
welllll... theres a lot of politics behind that but afaik not yet
nvidia prob just planned to have their aibs raise the price soon after launch, because, yknow, nvidia
That could very well be
We can't be certain of anything without official word yet
So "seem" is my favourite word rn lol
Facinating as micro center has still have the original prices. Well maybe they are just increased for the scalpers epidemic no?
We have no way of knowing
Not without any official statement
Just that they have gone up
True.. am here looking at neweggs gpu trade in value....
Ohh? Why so?
Hmm i see, since i checked my 4090s value to be $1350 only. And i see some refurbish on the market going $1900-2000 or in FB market 1.5k-2.2k
Yep
I would really just skip tbh if you're on a 4090
You won't make back the value going up now
It has to be msrp to achieve that
Yeah true
lol
It's still better than a 5080 you're not really missing anything
Especially with mfg being ass rn and the drivers bricking cards like mad
Let the others be guinea pigs, if you still want one in a year they'll be probably all better by then
My two cents
only reason id go from a 4090 to a 5090 is if your pc is your source of income, like with productivity tasks, and even then it's a very hard sell
any workstation task that can use multi gpus im suggesting 2 used 4080s over a 5090 lmao
Yeah, ive been telling myself that, its better to let it test for 6months to a year and let it run its course to see what issues rises up. Before buying into it to see if we are either getting a (Ti, super) variants.
We will def get a 5080Ti
They will make you want to upgrade later
Nvidia always does this
It'll be whatever the 5080 price is +200 lmao
So not 1200
But whatever it is at the time
Very very likely chance it happens
But then the kicker is it'll likely be just a 4090 basically + a few %
Lol
lol
This is my moto, "If i start lagging, i start upgrading" I have a issue were if my fps drops to 60-70 i am blessed by numerous headaches. The motion sickness kicks in.
2 years of waiting for that
3k? I call it 3k since 3440x1440??
Uwqhd
yes
You should be a while out on that one
4090 still basically hits the cpu ceiling on uwqhd
5090 is cpu limited below 4k even on a 9800x3d
Am waiting on that 9950x3d
Ye
If it helps
Go look for digital foundry guides
They have optimisation guides for games
It can get you a crap load of fps for barely any visual loss
Depending on the game
let me look into that
Really really nice guides
They don't have many but when they do it's great
And it's almost always AAA
Idk, might tide you over for the next 2 years lol
No worries
why does newegg not communicate it's stock drops on this discord somewhere
They don't pay us
We're all randoms dude
Their twitter has announcements tho, you can grab from there
Sometimes they do announce drops here but twitter is definitely preferred for them
They don't ping for the drops either
They just say there's a drop in the channel for the active members
ah, thanks for the info
Since we're on the topic, do the other retailers announce drops? If Best Buy, B&H, etc do I would love to know where
clicked link immediately, no stock available ๐ฆ
@odd siren hea accepted the 3080 for 400 if im going from a 1060 to a 3080 will there be a noticeable difference in performance in editing
The media engine has been improved
Compute perf also is much better
Unless you're limited on other components, editing (whether photo video 3d or whatever) will be much better
@i@forest oasis well I ain't doing extreme edit jus tryna make custom notifications for my stream
Amd 7000 series and Nvidia 4000 get AV1 encoding, might be nice for streaming
@random walrus I'm basically tryna keep my dinosaur computer alive as best as possible
went from a i5 8400 to a i7-9700k
n now going from a 1060 6gb to a 3080 10gb I think
Nice
$400 3080 aint bad, though I did get a $400 4070 recently. Similr performance, AV1 encoding, lower power draw
whats normal idle temp for a 6950xt
its the xfx merc if that matters
im seeing between like 47-52
very cool
Ok genuinely can't defend them on that one. It's not only an egregious waste of money but there's also zero explanation for that type of article
I agree that one is not ok
The other bundles of like half a pc - fine. Bulk selling gpus? Very much not ok
Card is like 5 years old now

Good lord
That one commenter is clinically insane
put a bandaid on it
I feel like the 1080TI has proved that age is just a number for GPUโs
1080TI
Wait the 1080ti would be 7 now ๐จ
It's hilarious that the 1080 ti beats the 4060 in some games
I almost had a 1080 ti
But it didn't work in my pc so I traded it back to the guy I bought it from and my half working 3060 ti for my 2080 ti
He said the 1080 ti works perfectly fine though so idk, I didn't get any display from it
2070s ish i think
Gotcha
I think I've heard it as between a 2070 and 2070s
2080ti was pretty close to a 3070, and 3080 10/12gb average out to be near equal to a 4070
With the 5080 being so close to the 4080super I can't imagine they'll put the 5070 too close
Watch like the 5060 ti being the only card worth buying
A world like that happening
Would be equivalent to getting hit by a train
If its $300 and matches a 6700xt or 4060 ti, I'll at least not be angry
But i know that's not happening
A used 4090 is the only card worth buying
A used 4090 is the only card worth buyingMD or maybe intel if you have a good cpu, or some older nvidia
At this point I wouldn't mind buying a used 4090, but I can't find any that aren't stupid overpriced
facebook marketplace would probably be best place, but I can't use that unfortunately... Stationed overseas
I'm seeing used 4090s go for $2000+
I'd say used 4080 is probably good value depending on price
They're getting to the point where they're worth here
@keen nacelle @odd siren 4080s go as low as 375k HUF used
While a new 7900XT costs 320-350
Used 7900XT goes as low as 270k
Y'all wouldn't upsell to the 4080 I guess?
its only abt a 10% difference if i remember right
and id rather the extra vram and save the money
Fair enough
it's out of stock
GPUs are in short supply these days, need to be pretty quick if you don't want to overpay
ITS GONE ALREADY?
I just listed it
Holy
It changed that drastically within the time frame
Gpu market man
People that were waiting to see how the 50 series did all flooded in to buy at once, and not being able to get a 50 series they settled for 40 or RX 7000
"Settled"
Coulda just enjoyed the better price to performance to begin with, 50 series was always gonna flop after something like 40 series "doesnt"
Although im happy people are learning
Omg
People also expect prices to go up due to tariffs (MSI and Asus already raised their 50 series prices by 10%), so there's pressure to buy now
It's not so much that they expect it to go up, it already has
The fear is that they go up even more
Not everywhere yet, but basically yeah
Im chillin with my non scalped gre i bought last year
People wait too much for this stuff
Just get it while its good
It doesnt just get better
Traditional advice has been "wait for the new gen and the last gen goes down in price" but that doesn't apply for a paper launch like this
everyone said to wait for 30 series and we saw where that got us lol
Compounded with the fact they've almost cancelled all 40 series now which is pure insanity to me
Nvidia really feels like they have no competition rn
There is some rationale there. I've seen some theorizing it has to do with manufacturing GDDR6X vs GDDR7, but ultimately it comes down to "Nvidia makes so much more money building datacenter cards, why would they give capacity to two GPU lines"
It's a minor impact honestly
Nvidia did this before with 30 series but not as aggressively
It's a big contrast tbh
Cos in the past every Ti and Super were introduced to fill performance gaps
Right I'm saying this may be why the contrast is so big this time
And now they're just removing options...feels...really odd
Hmmm
Maybe?
I can't work out what it is honestly
The cope take is that they expect the 70TI and 70 to sell gangbusters and prioritized manufacturing there, but I'll believe it when I see it
Supposedly 5080s are ramping up according to the grapevine but yeah
It's unusual
And it's not a bargain anymore for new gen with tariffs
The theory I do believe is they launched early to get MSRP before the tariffs
Yes
So the reviews "look"
Good
I would've actually appreciated just a skip in a generation here in exchange for lower manufacturer cost
GDDR7 did little to improve anything, I would've appreciated gddr6 tbh lol
That doesn't drive the stock price up though, so they'll never do something like it
The more 50 series drags on the more I feel like it's Nvidia following the tesla model of business
Promote a car, make it look amazing
Sell so little
But appeal to only the people that matter
Charge a fortune, earn investment as an industry leader in the field
But the products themselves are mid at best
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I haven't seen any all rounder "amazing" review of a tesla in many years
There's always some big "but" or issue
50 series really gives me these vibes
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@peak swift @little slate @reef heath @quartz gull @hot bough @eengineer @crimson saffron
It's too late
yep
I got it into cart, but so did 2100+ other people
il wait for the price to die down, im not paying extra 250
dam
So msrp is gone for 50 series already
well guess maybe in a year
my 4090 is sufficiante enough
Hell yeah ๐ฅ
^Source btw
And no I don't work for them lol
"THE SOURCE IS MYSELF" 
is the 5070 price going up too?
You bet your dollars it will
aww
Give it a week after launch
It'll go up 10-20%
If you miss the launch then that's that
so i better be quick
probably going to be a lot of scalpers
I would shop used and snipe a person selling their old card
You'll get better value out of it
And you won't miss out as easily
If the writing on the wall isn't a big enough deterrent that's up to you but I genuinely think trying to buy a new gpu in this climate is kinda crazy lmao
yeah
i've never had a current gen gpu before tho
No promises
Tbh, 50 series just feels like 40 series Ti imo
Lol
Appreciate the tag though, at least this time I had a chance
It had to happen right as I was getting off the bus ๐ญ
4070 ti super ti
Rip I wasn't on my phone, damn ๐ข
The Ti is too big of a step. 4070ti super super
Or maybe super duper?
The ti is like multiplying two negatives, it cancels out. So just the 4070 super rerelease
Except it doesnt say super
4080 super duper is something I want to see, plastered over every FE card
Introducing: the new Ultra lineup of GPUs to go with your new Ultra CPU!
4070 Ultra ti coming soon!

If apple owned nvidia itd be the 4080, 4080 pro, 4080 plus, 4080 max, 4080 pro max, 4080 pro max titanium edition, and theyd all have upgradable vram and somehow some way upgradable storage
Each gig of vram is 200$
"Make sure to sign up for Nvidia Care, so you can bring your GPU into our shop so we can say it can't be fixed and tell you to buy a new one"
Apparently each gig of GDDR7 vram is around $8-12 depending on speed bin. Nvidia cheaping out is insane
It's not that expensive to up 5080 to 24
They need to do more than just slap more memory onto the PCB
They also need to increase the memory bus size to match
The issue is there's not enough GDDR7 yet
Nvidia wants you to believe its liquid gold too, even if it is more expensive with the bus its not THAT much more
But there's 3GB GDDR7 chips
They could go from 2 -> 3 GB chips without increasing bus width can't they?
Sort of
That's what the 5090 mobile is
No they can't
Does the 5090 mobile have a larger bus?
No
dang, there should be stock alert from newegg's twitter/X account for stock drop like this lol
It has less chips
If they paid me I'd fix that
I just want all the drop notification be from Discord lol
I downloaded the Twitter app and only set newegg to give alerts, and it still didn't pop fast enough
Bold of you to assume it will be in stock by then
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We can dream 
It's still lunar new year, we've probably seen all the stock they made before all the factories took off
can we hit the reset button on the whole world pls
maybe unplug it and plug it back in
Ill keep your 4090 warm and toasty in the meantime
I'mma just give it to my sister to upgrade her 2070 when I buy a 5090
5 months for a very high chance of stock seems about right
It'll take weeks for them to get back to full production too
She could sell the 2070 for some new parts too to handle a 4090
I got a 4090 in November 2022 without too much hassle tbh
Like 6 weeks after launch
It should be around 3 months from start of production to shelves, add another few weeks for production to start back up after holidays
Was in stock for like a whole 15 minutes on a restock and snagged one without much problems
At the same time the stock was way better for that launch
130,000 launch units and 240,000 by end of November
And 4090 wasn't as sought after back then
I saw the upgrade from my 3080 12GB and went I NEED IT
Aren't we at <10,000 5090s worldwide rn lol
And then spent like $1800 on a partner card that was at the time a huge mark up
$200 mark up looked insane
And now it's baby mark up
I'm gonna take the chance to change my 4090 cooler instead
I can have one on display, the other in my pc
I'm honestly annoyed Arctic stopped making their GPU cooler
Would be nice if they kept improving it
?
I don't remember this
It must be funny to everyone else to see us so hungry for a 5090 while they sit with like a 1080 in the corner going "one more gen"
Nvidia is charging $20,000 for the A800 40GB, which has a die size of 826mm^2
The RTX 5090 die size is 750mm^2
They're probably prioritizing the A800 dies over the 5090, so they're only getting 5090 dies from wafers that have poorly located defects that prevent them from being used for the larger die.
Not just A800
Every other segment too
Nvidia's gaming sector is like less than 5% of their revenue
Yeah that's just one example card, they have those crazy ones that are the size of a whole server rack
Even AMD makes virtually nothing out of gaming cards
It's years old with no new revisions
https://www.arctic.de/us/Accelero-Xtreme-IV/DCACO-V800001-GBA01
Yea
I never knew
Deepseek save us from this AI bubble ๐
They got banned already
Honestly it's just going to accelerate it
AI is just a driver, the enterprise segment was huge long before it
Just proposed bill rn
People are going to want to run it natively especially with how easy it is to run relatively
I know, I'm joking. They also were subsidized by the state
What's funny is Samsung's foundry business is going to tumble when Nvidia has their AI bubble burst, because Samsung is getting extra business from high TSMC costs due to apple and nvidia going insane
I hope samsung explodes tbh
Precisely. That's how they were able to say they have such low operating costs, they subtracted the aid money from it.
Samsungs biggest chip buying is probably going to be Nvidia/Nintendo for the switch 2, on an older node too
i wonder what employees are paid
Idk any big customers currently that uses Samsung's smallest nodes?
What node do they use for their current gen nand cells?
I'm not sure
Their latest appears to be 3nm which started production in 2022.
It's currently used by crypto mining ASICS like the Whatsminer and mobile devices.
They reportedly have orders from Qualcomm, Nvidia, IBM, and Baidu.
Buy
ah yes two of amd's hottest gpus in the same case
im sure nothing bad will come of that
Nice
Hello peopel!|\
Hello
Goodbye
After the recent AMD announcement, I think ill wait on Radeon 9000 lol
Not like you cant wait
If you buy one now thats called theft from amd's production line
Well, i was planning on a 7700XT around that time anyway
"babe, we really need a kitchen remodel and I have just the bundle"
pretty sure it's fake, can't find it on the site
Yeah it's fake, best buy doesn't call it "FE", they say "founders edition"
the fact that it's somewhat plausible is pretty funny (and sad) though
@raven wharf The screenshot has swears in it, feel free to repost with them censored though that was rather amusing
Sorry didnโt even register
This should be fine unless Iโm blind
I saw that this morning on Reddit I think was that actually a deal they were offering
It's Reddit though
trust me guys heres my source: a guy on reddit
WTH
Not naming names - Frank
Frank is the only reason everyone is saying wait until the price is revealed
He's at the head of every price discussion
Ngl I've been wanting to pick up a founders Edition, but they're always so expensive
3080 FEs in my area are oddly plentiful but I'm pretty sure that's a downgrade?
Unfortunate
No real reason for me to try something like selling the 4070 to get a 4080fe when those are well over a grand
It's also pretty wild west out there rn
It is what it is
Prices seem to be up and down like a yo yo
I know the FEs aren't the top end models but I just think they look nice
That's about the justification anyways
Kinda shallow but eh
I'd just aim for a better FE later imo
RTX 6k series oh yeah
Maybe then I can afford a 6080ti with 16gb of vram at 1500 bucks
4070 is stuck with me in that case
Oh the amd reference cards look good too I guess
Different style anyways
Which kind
Given how old I recall this pc is, yes it'll be fine
New GF1 sucks, old GF1 rocks
GF1 PE I am pretty sure was the psu
That's PE
Good unit
2024 is the new rev
Which is ass
Whys that? Just a bad build quality?
Oem change
Ah
Weird
This PSU could power my old 6800xt fine
I think the two cards pull similar power?
Well thanks, gonna keep my eye out
Hoping that Facebook guy responds
Probably gonna need a better case though
That's then now now though
Take my $3000 for a 5090 please
No I'm broke
Long game
There better be 5080ti
There better be 5080 ti that isnt a scam (its gonna be a scam)
Mfw nvidia releases an $800 5080 ti that matches the 4090 and has 20-24gb vram
Instantly bought out by AI users
i would feel so scammed
With tariffs a 24GB 5080TI will probably be $2000 lol
I feel they'll release smthn between the 5080 and 5090, but definitely nothing close to that value wise lol
Now introducing the RTX 5080 ti with 18gb of vram for $1500
Or maybe the if 9070xt puts enough pressure it'll be another 40 series super situation
Tbf a whole $200 off from the 4080 to the 4080 super is a big difference. Not that $1000 was a good price either
true but i feel like prices would have fallen a bit regardless
The 4070TI Super did get 4GB more VRAM too
even if msrp went down
Shop for AMD and AMD Radeon RX 7700 XT GPUs / Video Graphics Cards at Best Buy. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up
This seems like a good deal for a 7700XT, should i jump on it in a few weeks?
that's decent, no guarantees it'll be around for a couple weeks though.
could also look a tthe used market
What is the minimum graphics card to pair up with a 4k monitor? Letโs assume med settings and upscaling
My 2080 can technically run pretty much everything in 4k (other than Indiana Jones)
I would say at this point 5080 (kinda not really), 4090, 5090, XTX (not for much longer)
For genuinely nice 4K performance
5080 has an eventual vram issue. A ridiculous one, but it's still going to be an eventual one with the way games are trying to trend
XTX on the other hand can more easily do it but isn't as well rounded as the 5080
Sorta falling towards falling out of a decent 4K high refresh experience
And should note I'm talking a broad experience, depending on your tolerance and the age of the games, that hurdle can drop significantly
Damn thatโs kinda insane.
I donโt think Iโd mind medium settings, but I also donโt know what 4k would look like on any settings lol
Medium is pretty tolerable imo
Also my normal games are things like POE1/2
DOS2
BG3
BL
Divinity original sin 2 and borderlands series
And damn so my 3080 would get throttled lol
Dos2 I'm not sure about but the other *2 sound relative not too difficult (BG3 depends)
Yea I havenโt played that in a while tho
7900XT might pull it off
Iโm hoping to get my hands on a 9070xt (if itโs anywhere near the 4080S)
It's supposed to be yeah
Main thing is 4K isn't worth if you aren't at a minimum monitor size of 32"
But if that is still not gonna be a good 4k card
I was gonna splurge for the swift OLED
Bare minimum otherwise you can't tell for like 98% of people
Mmmm I'm not quite settled on how I feel about that monitor
The flick between 1080p and 4K seems a bit redundant to me but I guess I've seen a lot over the years
Really? People seem to like it HUB has it as the #1 monitor currently I think
Idt that one does that does it? I thought it was a Q not W
But to a similar point the 480hz 1080p mode isn't super helpful imo, 4K 240hz is already ridiculous
It doesn't?
Is it not that PG32cdm one?
Let me look I could be wrong
ASUS ROG Swift 32โ 4K OLED Gaming Monitor (PG32UCDM) - UHD (3840 x 2160), QD-OLED, 240Hz
This has a U
Itโs a QD not a W. I think W is a matte finish and 2 resolutions
And I agree itโs insane price, I wanted to see if it goes on sale for prime day or for Black Friday
Ah I learned something
Ucdm is just 4k qd oled
Ucdp is 4k + fhd woled
The latter one I'm divisive over
I mean itโs not like they make it easy lol
Oh if you can wait that long it'll become good eventually
Fr
I guess that's fair, we wait and see at black friday
By then we might have alternatives that do the same for less as well
Yea Iโm in no rush. Thatโs why I wanna figure out what GPU is like the โminimumโ to be a good experience
Otherwise Iโll have to do what nvidia wants and just think the 5090 is the only GPu that exists lol
100% I also heard QDEL will be a thing this year too
In a year the two 90 cards should really be the only ones that truly get away with it unless we get some good software changes
Get away with being overpriced?
Lmao I totally misread what you wrote
And damn so you think the 4090,5090 will be the only current GPUs that will run high refresh 4k?
For the most part yeah
For the games you're thinking about I reckon you'd have a lower point of entry
9070XT could be one of them, have to wait and see
9070xt makes sense for 4k for someone valuing quality over frame rate
In a sense yeah, if 60fps is perfectly fine
It's touch and go to start at that or just above that tho imo
You'll find it's not enough for 60fps after a couple years
That said anything can happen with all this ai nonsense
This advice could age like milk lol
Just have to wait and see
Thatโs very fair. I really hope they donโt try to keep shoving AI at us. Like donโt get me wrong itโs a cool FEATURE not entire generational advancement
But thatโs a really fair point about the entry level. Iโd like to be able to step in around 90-100FPS with reasonable settings and hell even DLSS on. But if thatโs only gonna give me 2-4 years I guess Iโd either need to save up longer for a 90 or just never do 4k
Well I mean they played it perfect, low supply making it seem highly desirable, insane prices screwing the rest of the market up
4k is really just overrated
27" 1440p has a much higher pixel density than 24" 1080p
Yeah even at 32" I'm kinda like "eh"
Iโm honestly starting to think that
I think 4K is truly worth on big tv's
or maybe its 91 and 90
Monitors... I'm not as convinced
Thatโs what I have now. It was insane going from 1080 to 1440. Thought it would be the same with 4k
you could run a 1440p monitor for your main display and a 4k as a side for games you don't care about fps as much in
i did that with 1080p165hz/1440p75hz for a while
At that point why not just a high refresh 1080 for like 100$. Iโm thinking the person who mentioned doing a 1440 OLED instead was on to something the other day
Is that the predator
hmm ok Iโll loook them up tmrw
Lmfao why do you know that
Haha
I have a ridiculous memory at random times
And other times it's horrible
As you can see that's not qcxgmn at all

I must've been thinking of the mini led one they have lmfao
Yeah I was, and was really close too
Another great monitor btw, both of these
Thatโs should be close too
Predator I believe is like, marginally different
Acer Predator X27U bmiipruzx 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor
500$
That's basically the same as what I posted but different theme lol
They have a normal looking one for the same price โ ๏ธ
Yea! Thats what I thought very similar
Hey guys, I need suggestions regarding a problem.
I have a 7900 XT AMD reference and lately I noticed that in some games a pretty loud coil whining comes out of it (in ghost of tsushima for example happens when I change frame rate from 60 to 120. In Ninja Gaiden 2 Black it starts as soon as I start playing and it shuts when in pause menu. Both running on the highest settings except some like shadows etc.).
Months ago I watched a video where the issue was addressed and it was easily fixed using two separate cables to power the card, which I already am using so I'm at a loss of ideas on how to fix this. PSU is basically new, a thermaltake though power PF3 1050W 80+ platinum so I don't think it's the issue here
Since warranty is still valid, is it the case to send it for repair or something?
The newer AMD Cards are very sus to whine
Two things you can do, find the coil that vibrates (Hard af to do) and cover it in putty, solves the problem really well if you succeed
Or
Set an FPS cap
But if you have it at 120fps? That sounds a bit like a problem tbh
If a frame cap to a reasonable fps of your monitor doesn't work, you can reduce the power a bit and also undervolt, can help a little
Some cards, nvidia included here, with the higher quality stuff now are in fact quite overspec
And it leads to this whining sound
It's a little ironic, being as quality as these cards can be, the better they are the more suspect to whine they are
It sounds to me though, if you have really bad whine at 120 fps, like super audible (say as loud as your keyboard maybe) then I would consider warranty yeah
It's a difficult case to argue warranty for coil whine, however if you make the argument it's so loud it's unbearable it's often, from what I've seen, a successful RMA

So youre saying if i whine more i'll be a better quality person?
Immediately complaining at the next individual i run into
PSA
The 5090 has extremely unusual behaviour at this stage where it draws power from 2/6 strands on the 12vhpwr cable
This is an extremely dangerous situation in poor case flow and validates the claims of melted cables made in the last 2 days
If you're someone who owns a 5090, check your cable temperatures immediately, and if you notice in games, a couple are hot, numerous are cold, STOP USING THE CARD IMMEDIATELY.
Nvidia must resolve this. This is not a small issue.
This is a fire hazard.
Highly dangerous situation. It is unknown at this time if any cards other than the FE are affected hence the advice to check cable temperatures individually.
This will be fixed. If you notice these symptoms, stop using the card immediately.
It is extremely unusual behaviour, and the potential for fire damage is really high.
@livid idol I would appreciate pin thank 
I'm beside myself. Like. How is this ready for launch. (Rhetorical)
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Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately it's very audible, like having a bee nest inside the case, so I'll probably just try to RMA. I'm curious about a thing tough, is coil whine synonymous of a defective product or in general a GPU that is bound to "fail" at one point?
Nope, it's just a thing that happens. I'm not sure the reasoning why, but something can have coil whine and last years and years
You could try undervolting if they won't RMA
Edit it into one or two messages and I will. Otherwise the pin will only get a small part of this.
[(copied from felix's seperated posts)](#graphics-cards message)
PSA
The 5090 has extremely unusual behaviour at this stage where it draws power from 2/6 strands on the 12vhpwr cable
This is an extremely dangerous situation in poor case flow and validates the claims of melted cables made in the last 2 days
If you're someone who owns a 5090, check your cable temperatures immediately, and if you notice in games, a couple are hot, numerous are cold, STOP USING THE CARD IMMEDIATELY.
Nvidia must resolve this. This is not a small issue.
This is a fire hazard.
Highly dangerous situation. It is unknown at this time if any cards other than the FE are affected hence the advice to check cable temperatures individually.
This will be fixed. If you notice these symptoms, stop using the card immediately.
It is extremely unusual behaviour, and the potential for fire damage is really high.
I would assume they measure it by hand since most buyers don't have a thermometer
@livid idol here, i did it for felix
Nvidia being nvidia I see
Has there been any drops today
We don't really track that here, but I think the answer is no
There were a few, but I don't think they were very large. Some newegg PSU bundles were briefly in stock
Ahh dang I seen that one gigabyte gpu but Iโm looking for a different gigabyte card
For newegg at least if they don't announce it on Twitter it's probably just stock from cancelations so the numbers are extremely small
Honestly I don't think you'll be able to afford to be picky right now, unless you're willing to wait 3 months for steady stock
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They have discord channels specifically for this purpose
Can't link them here though, the bot is ban happy when it comes to discord links
There are stock tracker discords that will post whenever newegg (or another retailer) says they will drop
You can try stockdrops, stockchecker, gpudrops, there's tons of them
Zotac is doing a lottery to help keep the cards away from scalpers, similar to the newegg shuffle back in 2021
Speaking of, Newegg is bringing something along those lines at some point soon
MSI is doing something similar, they had a 5090 lottery this morning (it was an expensive bundle tho)
Looks like the GRE naming is here to stay
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-kills-golden-rabbit-edition-gre-branding-renames-it-great-radeon-edition
Wonder if the rename is still going to make it a thing where it launches in china first then everyone else gets it
Seems like it
Just making the GRE make more sense for like America and Europe
Stupidest naming scheme to date
Just do gse or something, golden snake edition
They prob already printed gre on the PCB and needed something to keep those letters

I cannot wait for 5090 to get a recall which forces Nvidia to actually fix their interesting design choices the past few generations
It also certainly would be the biggest meme of a launch in an insanely long time I imagine. Has a flagship GPU ever been recalled?
Thx man 
We had the XTX last gen for Biostar failing to make a proper cooler. But AMD fixed this really quickly and was very readily replaced. Meanwhile the 5090 might have a serious design flaw for a number of cards without enough shunts for load balancing
I think this is a first, at least in a long ass time for Nvidia
Not a first period, but is a first
The 8800 GT had to be recalled because they used the wrong resistor
That's a long time ago
Maybe I should just get a 70TI and wait until the generation they figure out the power situation before jumping into the high end
I would skip this generation altogether personally, if you have a decent card already
7900XT/XTX are more easily available
And no 12vhpwr terrors
Drivers have been rock solid for ages now in my experience
If not a used 4080/Super
I do want good upscaling though, the 9070XT might also be an option
9070XT sounds like it's gonna be really good
I'll elaborate on the drivers.
They have their issues. But those issues are neither more severe nor more numerous than nvidia's drivers.
The rumours keep getting better about that part
Who knows by the end of the month 5070TI might cost $1000 in the US
Or way down cos AMD made a stupid good product
Lol
Nvidia always does this they'll self insert a new card to match the competition
Or even adjust aggressively
But it's a very volatile situation idk how well this will go for either side over the next few weeks
The 12vhpwr thing is...really bad
Really really bad lmao
It's gonna get a lot of bad press
I just want to get something before more tariffs go into effect
The current leading theory is terrible load balancing due to lack of shunts over the power connector
So FE uses one, many others use 2
Older designs use 3
It's not proven but this issue could be only limited to lower end cards
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I kinda can't believe they went with 1 cable for this gen
It's a design fault in it's current spec
I think you could put off the issue another generation if you just send 300w down 2 12VHPWR cables or something
You could
In fact you could fix the problem, almost altogether if the revised spec was 300W max
Something nvidia wouldn't like, they're trying to reduce connector space
Even the 3090FE had melted cables, though, it was never confirmed if it was the same issue on the older version of the connector (Happened too rarely)
They've had years to figure this out
Or... hear me out... maybe don't max out the spec on a single connector and do dual 12V-2x6
any news on the 9700xt?
Nothing concrete
Just more rumors, like a $600 price tag and performance between the 7900 XT and XTX
Rumors are announcement/presentation at end of this month with a release date in early-mid March
Performance between 7900XT and XTX is I think confirmed, that was in their CES materials sent to press
The benches done at CES were on beta drivers too
I would love to see this but Nvidia really doesn't want this because they want to save pcb space
Which they're obviously having serious troubles with
See: Every failure in the last 3 years that's been ongoing non-stop

2 connectors would really solve it honestly
assuming they load balance them
Until the 6090 needs 750w
They won't have a leg to stand on if they try this again, 3 connectors lmao
Assuming the theory is correct yes
Or rather, the theory to fix it
It's definitely unbalanced but we're yet to see if changing the software is enough to fix it though
I am looking into getting the 1,300W D.F.X PSU from Enermax. It has 2x12VHPWR (600W) connectors can I do a 1-2 connector for this?
You can't fix this by buying something
It's pulling power as much as twice the spec through individual strands of the cable
Twice???
Your telling me it's drawing 1,100 watts???
Here's broken 5090
No
300W through a single wire
12vhpwr has 6 connections
150C after less than 5 minutes
Yes
Wires are connected to the pins
And there is 1 wire per pin I assume.
Yep
Each wire is rated for up to 150W?
100W technically, up to 150W in worst case
And instead it's balanced in a way where it's like
300+ on one
Because it's not balanced
And they can't work out which ones have the issue
Well that sucks.
Any hope that this can be fixed through software?
or a after market part?
There's a possibility of software or firmware
Potentially also cables with shunts that balance pins and plane as well
But all that said
This situation is a fire hazard
I wouldn't be buying any 5090 for the next couple months unless you want to risk the 50/50 of it being a fire starter
yeah I am gonna wait a bit
"the power of the sun in a single cable of my 12vhpwr"
I'll probably try to get a 9070xt for (hopefully) MSRP save going all out on the GPU for a later upgrade
Shame there's no 9070XTX
greatly disappointed in amd for not making a laptop 6900xt
i was this close to getting a 6900 6900 laptop
๐ค
but they didnt make it
There's still hope for 6969XT
Hm
It's over
is 300 a good price for a gigabyte aorus 3070
Im suprised their cards used are so expensive with the lack of vram
Nvidia is very stingy with VRAM
For some reason
It's cheaper. They are the market leader and can get away with it
Its true unfortunately lol
I was reading about it and they are basically the Apple of the gpu world
more vram means more attractive to scoop up for AI
not trying to fully defend NVidia here; I do think some of their cards could have used an extra 2-4gb,but if they were putting 24gb on a $600 xx70 card or whatever AI users would be jumping for it
Nvidia's AI users are billion dollar corporations buying H100s
It would only cost them $6 per GPU to add 4GB of GDDR7, not including cost of rearranging the PCB which would have been negligible if done during the design phase
Unfortunately, each extra GB of GDDR7 on a 50 series card is a GB that isn't being put in an H100
Alf sounded like an account rn
(he right doe)
Maybe next generation when there's more GDDR7 manufacturing output
Is this where I come to complain about the lack of gpus on the site?
I mean, you can. If you are looking for lots of other people to complain with you it might be better somewhere like the MSI or Zotac discord
This channel is extremely tame in comparison lol
We're just normies lurkin man
Sadly no newegg staff are here
Hence us being really chill and just realistic lol
5080 sucks. dont buy it. have a good day
If you can get it for MSRP maybe. I bet a good portion of 5070TIs come in at $1000 or more
If you need an upgrade at least (RIP me). Otherwise this looks more and more like the gen to skip
AMD save me ๐
If they can put out a decent card at a low price, it will at least tide me over for a couple years
It would also probably make their entry level stuff like 1000 dollars
Like, we cannot stop them as a company but their gaming sales will probably dry up in a few generations if they keep doing thid
Since its soโฆsmall?
pffft
when new 5090 ?
Newegg usually announces drops on Twitter
We probably won't see any major restocks for at least another month due to the Lunar New Year shutting down the factories for a couple months
You actually want one? ๐
Have you not seen the melting cables and bricking issues?
it wasnt worth it even before then
Litterally
side question, why the hell are AMD gpus so slow in blender compared to NVIDIA ๐ญ
is it driver support, difference with CUDA or anything
i think it was due to cuda
i feel like it falls a bit heavily on blenders side honestly
i know optix or whatever is a thing nvidia has
cuda is a nvidia specific feature
some good news though, blender is switching to vulkan in the next update i've heard
from opengl
on the stable release i think?
nvm
they're still working on vulkan
though while it's planned for 2025, they didnt mention when it would be ready
yee my point is how much blender optimizes for it and other nvidia stuff
vulkan will be pretty damn sweet tho
in their defense, most "professionals" would have been using nvidia over amd, since nv was pretty much dominating until rdna
though especially after rdna2, i think a bunch more professionals have switched (especially with nvidia pricing now)
blender was one of the things i wanted to delve into when building my pc
i genuinely had no idea it was so nvidia dominant lol
true but my gre's like half the perfomance of a 4070 super in blender so it definitely hurts lol
lmao
i still havent gotten to use it yet
blackmagic design the goat ๐ฃ๏ธ
but ill tell you i didnt hesitate to kick out adobe
honestly i recommend just messing around playing with effects and such
so when you actually do want to use it, you dont have to futz around as much lol
fair fair
probably will at some point tbh
although my cpu isnt the best for rendering
7700 was 50 bucks more when i bought this
so i shoulda just sucked it up and got it at the time lmao
Resolve my beloved ๐
Free version that isn't insanely limited and a one-time payment for the full version ๐ industry standard for color grading ๐ fairly intuitive to learn
Gonna end up running 3 8 pin connectors to my GPU, what would be the easiest way to clean up the look
If that's a thing
Do they make cables that are more flat? Don't want the cables pressing up against the glass
they make 90 degree adapters
just find a good quality one




