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barren trout
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it is a Z

odd siren
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Z is not bad

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But 450

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450 max

barren trout
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I offered 400

odd siren
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Yeah 400 is good

barren trout
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so we shall c

odd siren
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I agree

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Good luck lad

barren trout
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ty for the quick response

odd siren
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Make sure your PSU is up to scratch

barren trout
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yea I doubt it I have a 650

odd siren
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You kinda want a power budget of about 500-ish for the card itself minimum

odd siren
barren trout
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I would have to check

odd siren
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All good

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You can check later

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Wait until the offer is accepted

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Lol

barren trout
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I know

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lol ๐Ÿคฃ

odd siren
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๐Ÿ’€

barren trout
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I've been tryna keep my dinosaur pc relevant

random dock
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Anyone with 50 series gpu suffering stutters in Ubisoft titles ?

barren trout
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upgraded from a i5-8400 to i7-9700k
still have a 1060 6gb n 32gb ram

cerulean rover
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There's some general stability issues with 50 series rn

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all you can do with that is wait for driver updates

odd siren
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And paul had 5080 issues

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Nothing else so far that's firm

cerulean rover
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yea a bunch of reviewers report issues

odd siren
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Just all sounds like a bunch of chaos to me lmao

cerulean rover
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GN had cyberpunk 2077 just keep crashing with 5080 iirc

odd siren
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Beta driver v0.8

little slate
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Did y'all see the new bundles they got for the 5090?

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The cheapest one is $5400, including a $1200 monitor and a $650 motherboard

keen nacelle
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We love newegg

little slate
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I wasn't too bothered by bundles before, but this is like selling a pre built without building it

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I wonder how many people are out there trying to but a 5090 that legitimately need all those other things too

odd siren
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It's insane but also remember that's probably what scalpers sell the card itself for

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So it's much harder for them to make bank with those bundles

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Insane prices but at least it helps more genuine people get one

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I wouldn't pay more than like 3.3K for a 5090 pc but is what it is

little slate
odd siren
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We get a lot of people who come through, granted, nothing like the usual folk, who are just looking for that "Absolute best" setup

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5400 is a lot, but at the least there will be a few genuine buyers in that if they're managing to stay in stock

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I wouldn't spend that much personally, I take a much heavy bias to being value conscious

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But at the very least I realise exactly who they're marketing for

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As I put in gen chat earlier, if they weren't doing that, you probably would've never known the card was in stock anyway, given bots auto-scalp the site to begin with

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Hell in Europe they barely even sold to anyone genuine whatsoever

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Multiple major retailers there had purchase links leaked before the launch time so an hour before launch tons of those cards disappeared out of stock

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Some retailers like asus were caught in real time jacking their prices like 2.5x

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Again, totally get the sentiment, but mid covid we had a lot of this. 5400 is a hell of a lot of money, but at least whoever's buying it is getting something out of it instead of a retailer or scalper just ripping that price out of them for just the card yk

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There will be genuine people buying those

little slate
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I suppose, I'm just butthurt thats just more stock that I have no chance at

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I was willing to do a bundle with like a single other component that I can sell to a friend or coworker

ashen mountain
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OLED monitor too ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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A modem PSU would have been nice

forest oasis
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???? 5.5k???? and it includes not even everything????

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like

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they give you a mobo, psu, gpu, monitor, and kb&m

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but no ram or cpu??? no storage

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for 5.5k

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im willing to bet newegg is just trying to clear out stagnant stock i swear like wtf

keen nacelle
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no theyre trying to overcharge people who either have more money than they know what to do with, or people who see "ooh 5090, buy"

forest oasis
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i mean, considering the amount of reviews on the bundled products, i think it's safe to assume that they're also stagnant stock

keen nacelle
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thats fair

forest oasis
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3 reviews psu, 2 reviews keyboard, 13 reviews mouse, while the monitor and mobo are the only ones that might be selling a bit more with 65 and 79 respectively

odd siren
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To be honest

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Considering that it'd go to a scalper otherwise

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I still think that bundle isn't the worst, none of the parts are technically bad from what I can tell except maybe the mouse?

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You really need more money than sense to buy that but the prices are clearly stated, but that's still a better outcome to me than a scalper charging the same price for just the card and then that same person buying it

odd siren
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Only one component is something they also would have an easy time with,

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It sucks but peak covid it was like this everywhere

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I feel bad for anyone however who buys that bundle just to get the gpu, it's intentionally deterring from that outcome

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Like people who buy prebuilts just for the 90 card then try to flip it

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Lol

reef heath
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Not sure why was there was an update on pricing for 5090s but why did it jump $250+?

odd siren
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Seems to be across the board

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No one here can genuinely answer but they seem to all have gone up, implying an msrp change (or backend price change)

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And it's sad

cerulean rover
odd siren
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Cos without msrp those cards are worse value than what we had before

odd siren
cerulean rover
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$2000 org msrp, +10% and a bit to $2250 msrp seems reasonably likely

odd siren
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Warpig was saying PNY is the US manufacturer for nvidia

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They might be the ones that stay lower priced

cerulean rover
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It's possible, but either way the chips are still coming from Taiwan rn, they still have an excuse to increase their prices

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the n4 fab in arizona barely started production

ashen mountain
left quiver
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I would appreciate yall opinion on my PSU, was thinking of getting the rtx 5090 whenever I get the chance but I'm not sure if I should? I got a corsair HX1000i but it isn't atx 3.0? Should I buy a new one since the one I got is pre-2022??

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๐Ÿ‘€

odd siren
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You wouldn't need a new psu

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Also

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It looks like today everyone jacked the price of the 5090

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The tariffs seem to be in swing now just fyi

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Think the only time you'd need a new psu is if you had some ridiculously powerful intel chip and even then, you'd easily get away with it with a few changes to settings

keen nacelle
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nvidia prob just planned to have their aibs raise the price soon after launch, because, yknow, nvidia

odd siren
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That could very well be

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We can't be certain of anything without official word yet

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So "seem" is my favourite word rn lol

reef heath
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Facinating as micro center has still have the original prices. Well maybe they are just increased for the scalpers epidemic no?

odd siren
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We have no way of knowing

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Not without any official statement

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Just that they have gone up

reef heath
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True.. am here looking at neweggs gpu trade in value....

odd siren
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Lol

reef heath
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Ohh? Why so?

odd siren
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It's generally less than market value

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Plain and simple

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By a decent degree too

reef heath
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Hmm i see, since i checked my 4090s value to be $1350 only. And i see some refurbish on the market going $1900-2000 or in FB market 1.5k-2.2k

odd siren
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Yep

odd siren
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You won't make back the value going up now

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It has to be msrp to achieve that

reef heath
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Yeah true

odd siren
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I'm skipping

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I am just watching everyone suffer slowly

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Lmao

reef heath
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lol

odd siren
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It's still better than a 5080 you're not really missing anything

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Especially with mfg being ass rn and the drivers bricking cards like mad

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Let the others be guinea pigs, if you still want one in a year they'll be probably all better by then

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My two cents

keen nacelle
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only reason id go from a 4090 to a 5090 is if your pc is your source of income, like with productivity tasks, and even then it's a very hard sell

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any workstation task that can use multi gpus im suggesting 2 used 4080s over a 5090 lmao

reef heath
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Yeah, ive been telling myself that, its better to let it test for 6months to a year and let it run its course to see what issues rises up. Before buying into it to see if we are either getting a (Ti, super) variants.

odd siren
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They will make you want to upgrade later

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Nvidia always does this

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It'll be whatever the 5080 price is +200 lmao

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So not 1200

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But whatever it is at the time

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Very very likely chance it happens

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But then the kicker is it'll likely be just a 4090 basically + a few %

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Lol

reef heath
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lol

odd siren
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Whole gen really feels like a skip imo

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I'm waiting for 6090

reef heath
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This is my moto, "If i start lagging, i start upgrading" I have a issue were if my fps drops to 60-70 i am blessed by numerous headaches. The motion sickness kicks in.

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2 years of waiting for that

odd siren
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Interesting

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4k?

reef heath
odd siren
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Hey I'm curious

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The card runs almost everything at high fps even at 4k lol

reef heath
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3k? I call it 3k since 3440x1440??

odd siren
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Uwqhd

reef heath
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yes

odd siren
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You should be a while out on that one

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4090 still basically hits the cpu ceiling on uwqhd

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5090 is cpu limited below 4k even on a 9800x3d

reef heath
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Am waiting on that 9950x3d

odd siren
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Ye

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If it helps

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Go look for digital foundry guides

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They have optimisation guides for games

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It can get you a crap load of fps for barely any visual loss

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Depending on the game

reef heath
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let me look into that

odd siren
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Really really nice guides

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They don't have many but when they do it's great

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And it's almost always AAA

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Idk, might tide you over for the next 2 years lol

reef heath
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Well, all i can do is wait. Anyways thanks for the infos, i appreciate it.

odd siren
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No worries

sage gorge
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why does newegg not communicate it's stock drops on this discord somewhere

odd siren
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They don't pay us

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We're all randoms dude

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Their twitter has announcements tho, you can grab from there

livid idol
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Sometimes they do announce drops here but twitter is definitely preferred for them

forest oasis
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They don't ping for the drops either

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They just say there's a drop in the channel for the active members

sage gorge
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ah, thanks for the info

peak swift
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Since we're on the topic, do the other retailers announce drops? If Best Buy, B&H, etc do I would love to know where

little slate
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Looks like Newegg is now making GPU bundles to help scalpers

forest oasis
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only a 5080

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nothing lost here

little slate
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clicked link immediately, no stock available ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

barren trout
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@odd siren hea accepted the 3080 for 400 if im going from a 1060 to a 3080 will there be a noticeable difference in performance in editing

keen nacelle
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depends on the type of editing

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and what cpu/ram you have

forest oasis
barren trout
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@i@forest oasis well I ain't doing extreme edit jus tryna make custom notifications for my stream

random walrus
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Amd 7000 series and Nvidia 4000 get AV1 encoding, might be nice for streaming

barren trout
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@random walrus I'm basically tryna keep my dinosaur computer alive as best as possible

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went from a i5 8400 to a i7-9700k

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n now going from a 1060 6gb to a 3080 10gb I think

solemn panther
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Nice

random walrus
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$400 3080 aint bad, though I did get a $400 4070 recently. Similr performance, AV1 encoding, lower power draw

raven wharf
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whats normal idle temp for a 6950xt

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its the xfx merc if that matters

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im seeing between like 47-52

cerulean rover
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idle doesn't tell you much

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sounds normal enough

raven wharf
keen nacelle
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very cool

raven wharf
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2700 rpm tho sounds like a jet lol

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gonna play around with my fan curve a bit

odd siren
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I agree that one is not ok

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The other bundles of like half a pc - fine. Bulk selling gpus? Very much not ok

raven wharf
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space marine 2 ultra 1440p got my 6950xt looking like mcqueen

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not even 60

odd siren
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Card is like 5 years old now

odd siren
odd siren
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Good lord

forest oasis
craggy pier
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put a bandaid on it

rich cedar
craggy pier
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Wait the 1080ti would be 7 now ๐Ÿ˜จ

keen nacelle
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It's hilarious that the 1080 ti beats the 4060 in some games

craggy pier
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As it should

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It was high end then

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Its still amazing now

keen nacelle
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I almost had a 1080 ti

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But it didn't work in my pc so I traded it back to the guy I bought it from and my half working 3060 ti for my 2080 ti

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He said the 1080 ti works perfectly fine though so idk, I didn't get any display from it

craggy pier
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Hmm weird

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1080 ti is more or less equivalent to 2080 right?

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In raster

keen nacelle
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2070s ish i think

craggy pier
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Gotcha

random walrus
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I think I've heard it as between a 2070 and 2070s

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2080ti was pretty close to a 3070, and 3080 10/12gb average out to be near equal to a 4070

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With the 5080 being so close to the 4080super I can't imagine they'll put the 5070 too close

craggy pier
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Watch like the 5060 ti being the only card worth buying

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A world like that happening

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Would be equivalent to getting hit by a train

keen nacelle
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But i know that's not happening

solemn panther
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A used 4090 is the only card worth buying

craggy pier
little slate
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At this point I wouldn't mind buying a used 4090, but I can't find any that aren't stupid overpriced

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facebook marketplace would probably be best place, but I can't use that unfortunately... Stationed overseas

deep pike
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any 7900xtx new? 1k or less

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i can go a bit above budget max 1.2k

peak swift
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I'm seeing used 4090s go for $2000+

junior locust
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I'd say used 4080 is probably good value depending on price

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They're getting to the point where they're worth here

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@keen nacelle @odd siren 4080s go as low as 375k HUF used
While a new 7900XT costs 320-350
Used 7900XT goes as low as 270k
Y'all wouldn't upsell to the 4080 I guess?

keen nacelle
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its only abt a 10% difference if i remember right

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and id rather the extra vram and save the money

junior locust
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Fair enough

solemn panther
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Apparently not

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But that price

peak swift
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GPUs are in short supply these days, need to be pretty quick if you don't want to overpay

craggy pier
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I just listed it

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Holy

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It changed that drastically within the time frame

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Gpu market man

livid idol
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People that were waiting to see how the 50 series did all flooded in to buy at once, and not being able to get a 50 series they settled for 40 or RX 7000

craggy pier
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"Settled"

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Coulda just enjoyed the better price to performance to begin with, 50 series was always gonna flop after something like 40 series "doesnt"

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Although im happy people are learning

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Omg

peak swift
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People also expect prices to go up due to tariffs (MSI and Asus already raised their 50 series prices by 10%), so there's pressure to buy now

livid idol
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It's not so much that they expect it to go up, it already has

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The fear is that they go up even more

peak swift
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Not everywhere yet, but basically yeah

craggy pier
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Im chillin with my non scalped gre i bought last year

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People wait too much for this stuff

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Just get it while its good

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It doesnt just get better

livid idol
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Traditional advice has been "wait for the new gen and the last gen goes down in price" but that doesn't apply for a paper launch like this

keen nacelle
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everyone said to wait for 30 series and we saw where that got us lol

odd siren
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Nvidia really feels like they have no competition rn

peak swift
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There is some rationale there. I've seen some theorizing it has to do with manufacturing GDDR6X vs GDDR7, but ultimately it comes down to "Nvidia makes so much more money building datacenter cards, why would they give capacity to two GPU lines"

odd siren
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Nvidia did this before with 30 series but not as aggressively

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It's a big contrast tbh

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Cos in the past every Ti and Super were introduced to fill performance gaps

peak swift
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Right I'm saying this may be why the contrast is so big this time

odd siren
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And now they're just removing options...feels...really odd

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Hmmm

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Maybe?

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I can't work out what it is honestly

peak swift
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The cope take is that they expect the 70TI and 70 to sell gangbusters and prioritized manufacturing there, but I'll believe it when I see it

odd siren
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Supposedly 5080s are ramping up according to the grapevine but yeah

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It's unusual

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And it's not a bargain anymore for new gen with tariffs

peak swift
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The theory I do believe is they launched early to get MSRP before the tariffs

odd siren
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Yes

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So the reviews "look"

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Good

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I would've actually appreciated just a skip in a generation here in exchange for lower manufacturer cost

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GDDR7 did little to improve anything, I would've appreciated gddr6 tbh lol

peak swift
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That doesn't drive the stock price up though, so they'll never do something like it

odd siren
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Ofc

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I want the consumer friendly approach

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Lol

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They want an artificial market

leaden tide
odd siren
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The more 50 series drags on the more I feel like it's Nvidia following the tesla model of business

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Promote a car, make it look amazing

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Sell so little

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But appeal to only the people that matter

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Charge a fortune, earn investment as an industry leader in the field

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But the products themselves are mid at best

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๐Ÿ’€

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I haven't seen any all rounder "amazing" review of a tesla in many years

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There's always some big "but" or issue

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50 series really gives me these vibes

odd siren
# leaden tide https://x.com/newegg/status/1888029046732374123?s=46

๐Ÿ“ข Restock Alert ๐Ÿ“ข VERY limited supply of ZOTAC 5090 @NVIDIAGeForce RTX GPUs at 5pm PT. It may take a few MINUTES for the site to reflect the inventory. Be logged in, clear your cart, and have your billing / shipping info prefilled. Apple Pay is fast. PayPal is not. Let us know if you get one!
https://newegg.io/f11cd98

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@peak swift @little slate @reef heath @quartz gull @hot bough @eengineer @crimson saffron

peak swift
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It's too late

odd siren
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If I tagged anyone wrong sorry, just tryna get the word out

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Oh

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Damn

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Welp

reef heath
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yep

peak swift
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I got it into cart, but so did 2100+ other people

reef heath
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il wait for the price to die down, im not paying extra 250

odd siren
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The price bump was confirmed due to tariffs

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Unfortunately

reef heath
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dam

odd siren
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So msrp is gone for 50 series already

reef heath
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well guess maybe in a year

odd siren
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Yeah

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I would be doing that tbh

reef heath
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my 4090 is sufficiante enough

odd siren
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Hell yeah ๐Ÿ”ฅ

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^Source btw

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And no I don't work for them lol

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"THE SOURCE IS MYSELF" kekw

honest stirrup
odd siren
honest stirrup
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aww

odd siren
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Give it a week after launch

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It'll go up 10-20%

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If you miss the launch then that's that

honest stirrup
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so i better be quick

odd siren
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Genuine advice my friend, while there's still time

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This launch is ridiculous

honest stirrup
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probably going to be a lot of scalpers

odd siren
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I would shop used and snipe a person selling their old card

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You'll get better value out of it

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And you won't miss out as easily

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If the writing on the wall isn't a big enough deterrent that's up to you but I genuinely think trying to buy a new gpu in this climate is kinda crazy lmao

honest stirrup
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yeah

odd siren
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6 months to a year things should be better

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Should be

honest stirrup
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i've never had a current gen gpu before tho

odd siren
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No promises

odd siren
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Lol

peak swift
odd siren
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I tried

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Lol

peak swift
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It had to happen right as I was getting off the bus ๐Ÿ˜ญ

craggy pier
quartz gull
quartz gull
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Or maybe super duper?

craggy pier
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The ti is like multiplying two negatives, it cancels out. So just the 4070 super rerelease

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Except it doesnt say super

odd siren
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4080 super duper is something I want to see, plastered over every FE card

livid idol
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Introducing: the new Ultra lineup of GPUs to go with your new Ultra CPU!
4070 Ultra ti coming soon!

odd siren
craggy pier
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If apple owned nvidia itd be the 4080, 4080 pro, 4080 plus, 4080 max, 4080 pro max, 4080 pro max titanium edition, and theyd all have upgradable vram and somehow some way upgradable storage

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Each gig of vram is 200$

peak swift
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"Make sure to sign up for Nvidia Care, so you can bring your GPU into our shop so we can say it can't be fixed and tell you to buy a new one"

quartz gull
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Apparently each gig of GDDR7 vram is around $8-12 depending on speed bin. Nvidia cheaping out is insane

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It's not that expensive to up 5080 to 24

livid idol
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They need to do more than just slap more memory onto the PCB

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They also need to increase the memory bus size to match

peak swift
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The issue is there's not enough GDDR7 yet

craggy pier
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Nvidia wants you to believe its liquid gold too, even if it is more expensive with the bus its not THAT much more

quartz gull
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They could go from 2 -> 3 GB chips without increasing bus width can't they?

livid idol
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Sort of

peak swift
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That's what the 5090 mobile is

peak swift
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Does the 5090 mobile have a larger bus?

odd siren
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No

dark tide
odd siren
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It has less chips

dark tide
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I just want all the drop notification be from Discord lol

peak swift
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I downloaded the Twitter app and only set newegg to give alerts, and it still didn't pop fast enough

quartz gull
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Honestly

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I'mma just give it until June

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Hopefully it'll be in stock by then

peak swift
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Bold of you to assume it will be in stock by then

odd siren
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๐Ÿ’€

quartz gull
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We can dream peepoSadSip

peak swift
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It's still lunar new year, we've probably seen all the stock they made before all the factories took off

keen nacelle
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can we hit the reset button on the whole world pls

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maybe unplug it and plug it back in

craggy pier
quartz gull
cerulean rover
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5 months for a very high chance of stock seems about right

craggy pier
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Blasphemous

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Thats honestly a really nice upgrade lol

livid idol
craggy pier
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She could sell the 2070 for some new parts too to handle a 4090

quartz gull
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Like 6 weeks after launch

cerulean rover
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It should be around 3 months from start of production to shelves, add another few weeks for production to start back up after holidays

quartz gull
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Was in stock for like a whole 15 minutes on a restock and snagged one without much problems

cerulean rover
quartz gull
cerulean rover
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And 4090 wasn't as sought after back then

quartz gull
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I saw the upgrade from my 3080 12GB and went I NEED IT

cerulean rover
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Aren't we at <10,000 5090s worldwide rn lol

quartz gull
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And then spent like $1800 on a partner card that was at the time a huge mark up

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$200 mark up looked insane

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And now it's baby mark up

odd siren
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I'm gonna take the chance to change my 4090 cooler instead

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I can have one on display, the other in my pc

cerulean rover
odd siren
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My trophy

cerulean rover
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Would be nice if they kept improving it

odd siren
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I don't remember this

quartz gull
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It must be funny to everyone else to see us so hungry for a 5090 while they sit with like a 1080 in the corner going "one more gen"

livid idol
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Nvidia is charging $20,000 for the A800 40GB, which has a die size of 826mm^2
The RTX 5090 die size is 750mm^2
They're probably prioritizing the A800 dies over the 5090, so they're only getting 5090 dies from wafers that have poorly located defects that prevent them from being used for the larger die.

odd siren
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Not just A800

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Every other segment too

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Nvidia's gaming sector is like less than 5% of their revenue

livid idol
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Yeah that's just one example card, they have those crazy ones that are the size of a whole server rack

odd siren
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Even AMD makes virtually nothing out of gaming cards

cerulean rover
odd siren
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Oh accelero was arctic

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That's why

cerulean rover
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Yea

odd siren
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I never knew

peak swift
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Deepseek save us from this AI bubble ๐Ÿ™

livid idol
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They got banned already

cerulean rover
#

Honestly it's just going to accelerate it

odd siren
cerulean rover
#

People are going to want to run it natively especially with how easy it is to run relatively

peak swift
#

I know, I'm joking. They also were subsidized by the state

quartz gull
livid idol
quartz gull
#

Samsungs biggest chip buying is probably going to be Nvidia/Nintendo for the switch 2, on an older node too

keen nacelle
#

i wonder what employees are paid

quartz gull
#

Idk any big customers currently that uses Samsung's smallest nodes?

odd siren
#

No clue

#

Nvidia is the first big gddr7 one

cerulean rover
#

What node do they use for their current gen nand cells?

quartz gull
#

I'm not sure

livid idol
keen nacelle
#

6900xts

raven wharf
#

i want

keen nacelle
#

Buy

raven wharf
#

i have no need lol

#

i have the slightly better version

keen nacelle
#

ah lol

#

run dual gpus

#

you need 32gb vram for 1080 gaming in 2025

raven wharf
#

ah yes two of amd's hottest gpus in the same case

#

im sure nothing bad will come of that

deep pike
#

let's gooooo

#

secured a 7900xtx right before it went out of stock

junior locust
#

Nice

woven crystal
#

Hello peopel!|\

solemn panther
#

Hello

craggy pier
#

Goodbye

rich cedar
#

After the recent AMD announcement, I think ill wait on Radeon 9000 lol

craggy pier
#

Not like you cant wait

#

If you buy one now thats called theft from amd's production line

rich cedar
#

Well, i was planning on a 7700XT around that time anyway

forest oasis
# random walrus

"babe, we really need a kitchen remodel and I have just the bundle"

random walrus
#

pretty sure it's fake, can't find it on the site

livid idol
#

Yeah it's fake, best buy doesn't call it "FE", they say "founders edition"

random walrus
#

the fact that it's somewhat plausible is pretty funny (and sad) though

livid idol
#

@raven wharf The screenshot has swears in it, feel free to repost with them censored though that was rather amusing

raven wharf
#

This should be fine unless Iโ€™m blind

raven wharf
# random walrus

I saw that this morning on Reddit I think was that actually a deal they were offering

livid idol
#

It's Reddit though

raven wharf
solemn panther
odd siren
#

Frank is the only reason everyone is saying wait until the price is revealed

#

He's at the head of every price discussion

rugged thunder
#

Reddit

#

Ngl I've been wanting to pick up a founders Edition, but they're always so expensive

#

3080 FEs in my area are oddly plentiful but I'm pretty sure that's a downgrade?

odd siren
#

It is yeah

#

Relatively speaking

#

It's essentially the same thing for more power

rugged thunder
#

Unfortunate

#

No real reason for me to try something like selling the 4070 to get a 4080fe when those are well over a grand

odd siren
#

It's also pretty wild west out there rn

rugged thunder
#

It is what it is

odd siren
#

Prices seem to be up and down like a yo yo

rugged thunder
#

I know the FEs aren't the top end models but I just think they look nice

#

That's about the justification anyways

#

Kinda shallow but eh

odd siren
#

I'd just aim for a better FE later imo

rugged thunder
#

RTX 6k series oh yeah

#

Maybe then I can afford a 6080ti with 16gb of vram at 1500 bucks

#

4070 is stuck with me in that case

#

Oh the amd reference cards look good too I guess

#

Different style anyways

rugged thunder
#

Would a 850 watt PSU be good enough for a 7900xtx?

#

Or nah

rugged thunder
#

Lemme grab it rq

#

It's an 850 watt gold gf1

odd siren
#

New GF1 sucks, old GF1 rocks

rugged thunder
#

I think I got the psu like

#

A year ago?

odd siren
#

GF1 PE I am pretty sure was the psu

rugged thunder
#

Mine just says GF1 850w on the front

#

Copyright of 2018 on the back

odd siren
#

Good unit

#

2024 is the new rev

#

Which is ass

rugged thunder
#

Whys that? Just a bad build quality?

odd siren
#

Oem change

rugged thunder
#

Ah

#

Weird

#

This PSU could power my old 6800xt fine

#

I think the two cards pull similar power?

#

Well thanks, gonna keep my eye out

odd siren
#

Ye

#

You're fine

rugged thunder
#

Hoping that Facebook guy responds

#

Probably gonna need a better case though

#

That's then now now though

woven crystal
#

Take my $3000 for a 5090 please

rugged thunder
#

No I'm broke

odd siren
#

Ill take it

#

Come back in 3 years I'll have your 5090

rugged thunder
#

Long game

solemn panther
#

There better be 5080ti

craggy pier
#

There better be 5080 ti that isnt a scam (its gonna be a scam)

keen nacelle
#

Mfw nvidia releases an $800 5080 ti that matches the 4090 and has 20-24gb vram

random walrus
craggy pier
#

i would feel so scammed

peak swift
#

With tariffs a 24GB 5080TI will probably be $2000 lol

keen nacelle
#

I feel they'll release smthn between the 5080 and 5090, but definitely nothing close to that value wise lol

cosmic bluff
#

Now introducing the RTX 5080 ti with 18gb of vram for $1500

keen nacelle
craggy pier
#

yeah cus the last supers were great

#

they added

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uh

keen nacelle
#

Tbf a whole $200 off from the 4080 to the 4080 super is a big difference. Not that $1000 was a good price either

craggy pier
#

true but i feel like prices would have fallen a bit regardless

peak swift
#

The 4070TI Super did get 4GB more VRAM too

craggy pier
#

even if msrp went down

rich cedar
#
#

This seems like a good deal for a 7700XT, should i jump on it in a few weeks?

random walrus
#

that's decent, no guarantees it'll be around for a couple weeks though.

#

could also look a tthe used market

dusk nexus
#

What is the minimum graphics card to pair up with a 4k monitor? Letโ€™s assume med settings and upscaling

peak swift
#

My 2080 can technically run pretty much everything in 4k (other than Indiana Jones)

odd siren
#

I would say at this point 5080 (kinda not really), 4090, 5090, XTX (not for much longer)

#

For genuinely nice 4K performance

#

5080 has an eventual vram issue. A ridiculous one, but it's still going to be an eventual one with the way games are trying to trend

#

XTX on the other hand can more easily do it but isn't as well rounded as the 5080

#

Sorta falling towards falling out of a decent 4K high refresh experience

#

And should note I'm talking a broad experience, depending on your tolerance and the age of the games, that hurdle can drop significantly

dusk nexus
odd siren
#

Medium is pretty tolerable imo

dusk nexus
#

Also my normal games are things like POE1/2
DOS2
BG3
BL

odd siren
#

But also I say the XTX from a medium graphics opinion lol

#

Dos2? BL?

#

Boys love?

dusk nexus
#

Divinity original sin 2 and borderlands series

odd siren
#

Oh borderlands

#

LOL

dusk nexus
#

And damn so my 3080 would get throttled lol

odd siren
#

Dos2 I'm not sure about but the other *2 sound relative not too difficult (BG3 depends)

dusk nexus
odd siren
#

7900XT might pull it off

dusk nexus
#

Iโ€™m hoping to get my hands on a 9070xt (if itโ€™s anywhere near the 4080S)

odd siren
#

It's supposed to be yeah

#

Main thing is 4K isn't worth if you aren't at a minimum monitor size of 32"

dusk nexus
#

But if that is still not gonna be a good 4k card

dusk nexus
odd siren
odd siren
#

The flick between 1080p and 4K seems a bit redundant to me but I guess I've seen a lot over the years

dusk nexus
odd siren
#

Well yeah it's like the

#

"I have no limits on money" tier

dusk nexus
odd siren
#

But to a similar point the 480hz 1080p mode isn't super helpful imo, 4K 240hz is already ridiculous

#

It doesn't?

#

Is it not that PG32cdm one?

dusk nexus
odd siren
#

I could be too you never know

#

Lol

dusk nexus
#

ASUS ROG Swift 32โ€ 4K OLED Gaming Monitor (PG32UCDM) - UHD (3840 x 2160), QD-OLED, 240Hz

#

This has a U

#

Itโ€™s a QD not a W. I think W is a matte finish and 2 resolutions

#

And I agree itโ€™s insane price, I wanted to see if it goes on sale for prime day or for Black Friday

odd siren
#

Ah I learned something

#

Ucdm is just 4k qd oled

#

Ucdp is 4k + fhd woled

#

The latter one I'm divisive over

dusk nexus
#

I mean itโ€™s not like they make it easy lol

odd siren
odd siren
#

I guess that's fair, we wait and see at black friday

#

By then we might have alternatives that do the same for less as well

dusk nexus
dusk nexus
odd siren
dusk nexus
odd siren
#

Lol

#

Get away with 4K

dusk nexus
#

And damn so you think the 4090,5090 will be the only current GPUs that will run high refresh 4k?

odd siren
#

For the most part yeah

#

For the games you're thinking about I reckon you'd have a lower point of entry

#

9070XT could be one of them, have to wait and see

keen nacelle
#

9070xt makes sense for 4k for someone valuing quality over frame rate

odd siren
#

In a sense yeah, if 60fps is perfectly fine

#

It's touch and go to start at that or just above that tho imo

#

You'll find it's not enough for 60fps after a couple years

#

That said anything can happen with all this ai nonsense

#

This advice could age like milk lol

#

Just have to wait and see

dusk nexus
#

Thatโ€™s very fair. I really hope they donโ€™t try to keep shoving AI at us. Like donโ€™t get me wrong itโ€™s a cool FEATURE not entire generational advancement

odd siren
#

They tried lol

#

I've found maybe a handful of people that believed it

dusk nexus
#

But thatโ€™s a really fair point about the entry level. Iโ€™d like to be able to step in around 90-100FPS with reasonable settings and hell even DLSS on. But if thatโ€™s only gonna give me 2-4 years I guess Iโ€™d either need to save up longer for a 90 or just never do 4k

dusk nexus
# odd siren They tried lol

Well I mean they played it perfect, low supply making it seem highly desirable, insane prices screwing the rest of the market up

keen nacelle
#

4k is really just overrated

#

27" 1440p has a much higher pixel density than 24" 1080p

odd siren
dusk nexus
keen nacelle
#

32" 1440p is slightly higher ppi than 24" 1080p

#

91 ppi vs 92 ppi iirc

odd siren
#

I think 4K is truly worth on big tv's

keen nacelle
#

or maybe its 91 and 90

odd siren
#

Monitors... I'm not as convinced

dusk nexus
keen nacelle
#

you could run a 1440p monitor for your main display and a 4k as a side for games you don't care about fps as much in

#

i did that with 1080p165hz/1440p75hz for a while

dusk nexus
#

At that point why not just a high refresh 1080 for like 100$. Iโ€™m thinking the person who mentioned doing a 1440 OLED instead was on to something the other day

odd siren
#

I would endorse a 1440p oled

#

AOC sells two variants at $500

#

240Hz

dusk nexus
#

Is that the predator

odd siren
#

I cannot remember tbh

#

One's woled the other qd-oled

dusk nexus
#

hmm ok Iโ€™ll loook them up tmrw

odd siren
#

Sku code...

#

Qcxgmn?

#

Or something

dusk nexus
#

Lmfao why do you know that

odd siren
#

Haha

#

I have a ridiculous memory at random times

#

And other times it's horrible

#

As you can see that's not qcxgmn at all

#

I must've been thinking of the mini led one they have lmfao

#

Yeah I was, and was really close too

dusk nexus
#

Lmfao

#

I think acer makes the predator

odd siren
#

Another great monitor btw, both of these

dusk nexus
#

Thatโ€™s should be close too

odd siren
dusk nexus
#

Acer Predator X27U bmiipruzx 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor

odd siren
#

These ones should be mostly similar and better priced

#

Xv272u?

dusk nexus
#

500$

odd siren
#

Oh x27U

craggy pier
#

Acer naming scheme moment

#

Also felix look in gen ๐Ÿ˜ญ

odd siren
#

They have a normal looking one for the same price โ˜ ๏ธ

dusk nexus
#

Yea! Thats what I thought very similar

odd siren
#

Alien(ware)

#

Vs. predator...

#

Now that would've been a boring movie

fluid grotto
#

Hey guys, I need suggestions regarding a problem.

I have a 7900 XT AMD reference and lately I noticed that in some games a pretty loud coil whining comes out of it (in ghost of tsushima for example happens when I change frame rate from 60 to 120. In Ninja Gaiden 2 Black it starts as soon as I start playing and it shuts when in pause menu. Both running on the highest settings except some like shadows etc.).

Months ago I watched a video where the issue was addressed and it was easily fixed using two separate cables to power the card, which I already am using so I'm at a loss of ideas on how to fix this. PSU is basically new, a thermaltake though power PF3 1050W 80+ platinum so I don't think it's the issue here
Since warranty is still valid, is it the case to send it for repair or something?

odd siren
#

The newer AMD Cards are very sus to whine

#

Two things you can do, find the coil that vibrates (Hard af to do) and cover it in putty, solves the problem really well if you succeed

#

Or

#

Set an FPS cap

#

But if you have it at 120fps? That sounds a bit like a problem tbh

#

If a frame cap to a reasonable fps of your monitor doesn't work, you can reduce the power a bit and also undervolt, can help a little

#

Some cards, nvidia included here, with the higher quality stuff now are in fact quite overspec

#

And it leads to this whining sound

#

It's a little ironic, being as quality as these cards can be, the better they are the more suspect to whine they are

#

It sounds to me though, if you have really bad whine at 120 fps, like super audible (say as loud as your keyboard maybe) then I would consider warranty yeah

#

It's a difficult case to argue warranty for coil whine, however if you make the argument it's so loud it's unbearable it's often, from what I've seen, a successful RMA

craggy pier
#

Immediately complaining at the next individual i run into

odd siren
#

PSA

#

The 5090 has extremely unusual behaviour at this stage where it draws power from 2/6 strands on the 12vhpwr cable

#

This is an extremely dangerous situation in poor case flow and validates the claims of melted cables made in the last 2 days

#

If you're someone who owns a 5090, check your cable temperatures immediately, and if you notice in games, a couple are hot, numerous are cold, STOP USING THE CARD IMMEDIATELY.

#

Nvidia must resolve this. This is not a small issue.

#

This is a fire hazard.

#

Highly dangerous situation. It is unknown at this time if any cards other than the FE are affected hence the advice to check cable temperatures individually.

#

This will be fixed. If you notice these symptoms, stop using the card immediately.

#

It is extremely unusual behaviour, and the potential for fire damage is really high.

#

@livid idol I would appreciate pin thank PRAYGE

#

I'm beside myself. Like. How is this ready for launch. (Rhetorical)

fluid grotto
# odd siren The newer AMD Cards are very sus to whine

Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately it's very audible, like having a bee nest inside the case, so I'll probably just try to RMA. I'm curious about a thing tough, is coil whine synonymous of a defective product or in general a GPU that is bound to "fail" at one point?

keen nacelle
#

Nope, it's just a thing that happens. I'm not sure the reasoning why, but something can have coil whine and last years and years

#

You could try undervolting if they won't RMA

livid idol
forest oasis
#

[(copied from felix's seperated posts)](#graphics-cards message)

PSA

The 5090 has extremely unusual behaviour at this stage where it draws power from 2/6 strands on the 12vhpwr cable
This is an extremely dangerous situation in poor case flow and validates the claims of melted cables made in the last 2 days
If you're someone who owns a 5090, check your cable temperatures immediately, and if you notice in games, a couple are hot, numerous are cold, STOP USING THE CARD IMMEDIATELY.
Nvidia must resolve this. This is not a small issue.

This is a fire hazard.

Highly dangerous situation. It is unknown at this time if any cards other than the FE are affected hence the advice to check cable temperatures individually.
This will be fixed. If you notice these symptoms, stop using the card immediately.
It is extremely unusual behaviour, and the potential for fire damage is really high.

solemn panther
forest oasis
sharp glacier
#

Has there been any drops today

livid idol
#

We don't really track that here, but I think the answer is no

peak swift
#

There were a few, but I don't think they were very large. Some newegg PSU bundles were briefly in stock

sharp glacier
#

Ahh dang I seen that one gigabyte gpu but Iโ€™m looking for a different gigabyte card

peak swift
#

For newegg at least if they don't announce it on Twitter it's probably just stock from cancelations so the numbers are extremely small

livid idol
#

Honestly I don't think you'll be able to afford to be picky right now, unless you're willing to wait 3 months for steady stock

#

No, message was deleted for using blocked word

#

By the bot

rose fossil
#

well, is there a way to get stock alerts on discord

#

cuz im not using witter

livid idol
#

They have discord channels specifically for this purpose

#

Can't link them here though, the bot is ban happy when it comes to discord links

peak swift
#

There are stock tracker discords that will post whenever newegg (or another retailer) says they will drop

livid idol
#

You can try stockdrops, stockchecker, gpudrops, there's tons of them

#

Zotac is doing a lottery to help keep the cards away from scalpers, similar to the newegg shuffle back in 2021

#

Speaking of, Newegg is bringing something along those lines at some point soon

peak swift
#

MSI is doing something similar, they had a 5090 lottery this morning (it was an expensive bundle tho)

cerulean rover
raven wharf
cerulean rover
#

Seems like it

raven wharf
#

Just making the GRE make more sense for like America and Europe

craggy pier
#

Just do gse or something, golden snake edition

cerulean rover
#

They prob already printed gre on the PCB and needed something to keep those letters

craggy pier
wicked hound
#

It also certainly would be the biggest meme of a launch in an insanely long time I imagine. Has a flagship GPU ever been recalled?

odd siren
odd siren
#

I think this is a first, at least in a long ass time for Nvidia

#

Not a first period, but is a first

livid idol
odd siren
#

That's a long time ago

livid idol
#

The question included the word "ever"

#

17 years ago falls under "ever"

odd siren
#

Oh yeah almost no one is ready for this

#

Jensen will be having a field day today

peak swift
#

Maybe I should just get a 70TI and wait until the generation they figure out the power situation before jumping into the high end

odd siren
#

I would skip this generation altogether personally, if you have a decent card already

peak swift
#

I do not lol

#

My 2080 is struggling

odd siren
#

7900XT/XTX are more easily available

#

And no 12vhpwr terrors

#

Drivers have been rock solid for ages now in my experience

#

If not a used 4080/Super

peak swift
#

I do want good upscaling though, the 9070XT might also be an option

odd siren
#

9070XT sounds like it's gonna be really good

livid idol
#

I'll elaborate on the drivers.
They have their issues. But those issues are neither more severe nor more numerous than nvidia's drivers.

peak swift
#

FSR4 seems promising

#

Depends on pricing though

odd siren
#

The rumours keep getting better about that part

peak swift
#

Who knows by the end of the month 5070TI might cost $1000 in the US

odd siren
#

Or way down cos AMD made a stupid good product

#

Lol

#

Nvidia always does this they'll self insert a new card to match the competition

#

Or even adjust aggressively

#

But it's a very volatile situation idk how well this will go for either side over the next few weeks

#

The 12vhpwr thing is...really bad

#

Really really bad lmao

#

It's gonna get a lot of bad press

peak swift
#

I just want to get something before more tariffs go into effect

odd siren
#

The current leading theory is terrible load balancing due to lack of shunts over the power connector

#

So FE uses one, many others use 2

#

Older designs use 3

#

It's not proven but this issue could be only limited to lower end cards

odd siren
#

Yeah

#

It's not easily fixed

peak swift
#

I kinda can't believe they went with 1 cable for this gen

odd siren
#

It's a design fault in it's current spec

peak swift
#

I think you could put off the issue another generation if you just send 300w down 2 12VHPWR cables or something

odd siren
#

You could

#

In fact you could fix the problem, almost altogether if the revised spec was 300W max

#

Something nvidia wouldn't like, they're trying to reduce connector space

#

Even the 3090FE had melted cables, though, it was never confirmed if it was the same issue on the older version of the connector (Happened too rarely)

#

They've had years to figure this out

livid idol
#

Or... hear me out... maybe don't max out the spec on a single connector and do dual 12V-2x6

solemn panther
#

any news on the 9700xt?

livid idol
#

Nothing concrete

#

Just more rumors, like a $600 price tag and performance between the 7900 XT and XTX

peak swift
#

Rumors are announcement/presentation at end of this month with a release date in early-mid March

#

Performance between 7900XT and XTX is I think confirmed, that was in their CES materials sent to press

livid idol
#

The benches done at CES were on beta drivers too

odd siren
#

Which they're obviously having serious troubles with

#

See: Every failure in the last 3 years that's been ongoing non-stop

#

2 connectors would really solve it honestly

livid idol
#

assuming they load balance them

peak swift
#

Until the 6090 needs 750w

odd siren
odd siren
#

Or rather, the theory to fix it

#

It's definitely unbalanced but we're yet to see if changing the software is enough to fix it though

hot bough
odd siren
#

It's pulling power as much as twice the spec through individual strands of the cable

hot bough
#

Twice???

odd siren
#

Here's normal 5090

hot bough
#

Your telling me it's drawing 1,100 watts???

odd siren
#

Here's broken 5090

livid idol
odd siren
#

12vhpwr has 6 connections

hot bough
#

Ohhh. I completely misunderstood.

#

Are wires and pins the same thing?

odd siren
#

150C after less than 5 minutes

odd siren
livid idol
#

Wires are connected to the pins

hot bough
#

And there is 1 wire per pin I assume.

livid idol
#

Yep

hot bough
#

Each wire is rated for up to 150W?

livid idol
#

100W technically, up to 150W in worst case

odd siren
#

And instead it's balanced in a way where it's like

#

300+ on one

#

Because it's not balanced

#

And they can't work out which ones have the issue

hot bough
#

Well that sucks.

#

Any hope that this can be fixed through software?

#

or a after market part?

odd siren
#

There's a possibility of software or firmware

#

Potentially also cables with shunts that balance pins and plane as well

#

But all that said

#

This situation is a fire hazard

#

I wouldn't be buying any 5090 for the next couple months unless you want to risk the 50/50 of it being a fire starter

hot bough
#

yeah I am gonna wait a bit

odd siren
#

So glad I skipped omfg

livid idol
#

Yeaaaaah I'm skipping too

#

If I need more memory I'll get a 9070 xt

peak swift
#

I'll probably try to get a 9070xt for (hopefully) MSRP save going all out on the GPU for a later upgrade

#

Shame there's no 9070XTX

livid idol
#

*yet

#

There's still time

forest oasis
#

greatly disappointed in amd for not making a laptop 6900xt

#

i was this close to getting a 6900 6900 laptop

#

๐Ÿค

#

but they didnt make it

odd siren
#

There's still hope for 6969XT

solemn panther
#

Hm

solemn panther
barren trout
#

is 300 a good price for a gigabyte aorus 3070

keen nacelle
#

Abt average

#

Something with more vram would be nice

rich cedar
#

Im suprised their cards used are so expensive with the lack of vram

peak swift
#

Nvidia is very stingy with VRAM

rugged thunder
#

For some reason

peak swift
#

It's cheaper. They are the market leader and can get away with it

rich cedar
#

Its true unfortunately lol

rugged thunder
#

Intel and AMD give you decent vram for the price

#

At pretty much any tier

rich cedar
#

I was reading about it and they are basically the Apple of the gpu world

random walrus
#

more vram means more attractive to scoop up for AI

#

not trying to fully defend NVidia here; I do think some of their cards could have used an extra 2-4gb,but if they were putting 24gb on a $600 xx70 card or whatever AI users would be jumping for it

peak swift
#

Nvidia's AI users are billion dollar corporations buying H100s

livid idol
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It would only cost them $6 per GPU to add 4GB of GDDR7, not including cost of rearranging the PCB which would have been negligible if done during the design phase

peak swift
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Unfortunately, each extra GB of GDDR7 on a 50 series card is a GB that isn't being put in an H100

odd siren
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Alf sounded like an account rn kekw (he right doe)

peak swift
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Maybe next generation when there's more GDDR7 manufacturing output

eternal parcel
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Is this where I come to complain about the lack of gpus on the site?

peak swift
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I mean, you can. If you are looking for lots of other people to complain with you it might be better somewhere like the MSI or Zotac discord

eternal parcel
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Thank you lol

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I appreciate you consoling me kekw

peak swift
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This channel is extremely tame in comparison lol

odd siren
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We're just normies lurkin man

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Sadly no newegg staff are here

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Hence us being really chill and just realistic lol

solemn panther
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5080 sucks. dont buy it. have a good day

peak swift
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If you can get it for MSRP maybe. I bet a good portion of 5070TIs come in at $1000 or more

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If you need an upgrade at least (RIP me). Otherwise this looks more and more like the gen to skip

solemn panther
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fr

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the more videos i watch, the more turned off i am by this gen

peak swift
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AMD save me ๐Ÿ™

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If they can put out a decent card at a low price, it will at least tide me over for a couple years

rich cedar
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Like, we cannot stop them as a company but their gaming sales will probably dry up in a few generations if they keep doing thid

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Since its soโ€ฆsmall?

craggy pier
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That's

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That's what she

void flame
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when new 5090 ?

livid idol
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Newegg usually announces drops on Twitter

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We probably won't see any major restocks for at least another month due to the Lunar New Year shutting down the factories for a couple months

rugged thunder
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I forgot about that tbh

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Makes sense though

rich cedar
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Have you not seen the melting cables and bricking issues?

craggy pier
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it wasnt worth it even before then

rich cedar
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Litterally

craggy pier
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side question, why the hell are AMD gpus so slow in blender compared to NVIDIA ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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is it driver support, difference with CUDA or anything

forest oasis
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i think it was due to cuda

craggy pier
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i feel like it falls a bit heavily on blenders side honestly

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i know optix or whatever is a thing nvidia has

forest oasis
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cuda is a nvidia specific feature

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some good news though, blender is switching to vulkan in the next update i've heard

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from opengl

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on the stable release i think?

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nvm

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they're still working on vulkan

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though while it's planned for 2025, they didnt mention when it would be ready

craggy pier
craggy pier
forest oasis
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in their defense, most "professionals" would have been using nvidia over amd, since nv was pretty much dominating until rdna

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though especially after rdna2, i think a bunch more professionals have switched (especially with nvidia pricing now)

craggy pier
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blender was one of the things i wanted to delve into when building my pc

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i genuinely had no idea it was so nvidia dominant lol

forest oasis
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lol

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to be fair, it's not like it doesn't work on amd

craggy pier
forest oasis
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lol

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but hey

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davinci resolve favors amd

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so if you want to video edit

craggy pier
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ironically

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davinci is on my hotbar

forest oasis
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lmao

craggy pier
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i still havent gotten to use it yet

forest oasis
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blackmagic design the goat ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ

craggy pier
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but ill tell you i didnt hesitate to kick out adobe

forest oasis
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honestly i recommend just messing around playing with effects and such

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so when you actually do want to use it, you dont have to futz around as much lol

craggy pier
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fair fair

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probably will at some point tbh

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although my cpu isnt the best for rendering

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7700 was 50 bucks more when i bought this

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so i shoulda just sucked it up and got it at the time lmao

random walrus
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Resolve my beloved ๐Ÿ˜

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Free version that isn't insanely limited and a one-time payment for the full version ๐Ÿ˜ industry standard for color grading ๐Ÿ˜ fairly intuitive to learn

rugged thunder
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Gonna end up running 3 8 pin connectors to my GPU, what would be the easiest way to clean up the look

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If that's a thing

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Do they make cables that are more flat? Don't want the cables pressing up against the glass

forest oasis
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just find a good quality one

rugged thunder
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Didn't know what was a thing

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Oh, dunno if they'd work on my GPU