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livid idol
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They seem to have learned from those mistakes for 40 series, I've not heard any major complaints.

fading glacier
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still, that was enough to make zotac a meme

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they will need a couple generations to clean that stain

wicked hound
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Zotac has finally stopped being Zootac with 40 series

mighty eagle
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Bad service with sapphire . I order , gpu , and psu msi in same time 2024-03-14 , my psu is already coming and my gpu is delayed... why ... never again buying sapphire.

odd siren
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That's a person problem

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If you told me the card melted or died when you put it in...well that would sway me, not a logistics issue with something like UPS

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Also, it's been what 2 days? That's nothing

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Lol

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Try ordering watercooling parts, they can take MONTHS depending on your circumstances

mighty eagle
odd siren
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Nope

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It's common in a lot of stores out there that picking the expedited option is in fact slower

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Try amazon for example

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It all comes down to your individual logistics infrastructure

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Respectfully, if you had ordered any other card, having a two day processing would have been extremely likely all the same

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It's two days

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Some stores have 1 week processing

mighty eagle
odd siren
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Look up Mwave in Australia

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Anything with a supplier tag takes a minimum 1 week

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There's one store

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Should I quote alphacool?

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Umart

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Pcbyte?

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Like

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I have a lot of experience with this 1st hand

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2 days is a luxury where I'm from

mighty eagle
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which I find stupid, he should prioritize expensive orders $$$.. my 400$ psu could wait instead my gpu . rather my point

odd siren
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It's just another number in the queue my guy

mighty eagle
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Sadly

odd siren
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If you bought a 100K server rack

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Sure

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You probably would get fast processing

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But anything in the consumer space no, it's just a typical order

mighty eagle
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Thx for your time!

odd siren
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Np

quasi flicker
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Am I crazy or does Adrenalin come with the auto-detect option on AMD drivers?

odd siren
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yes

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auto detect and install

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I think it also works for mobo chipset iirc

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very convenient if the process is too difficult for some

cursive nova
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is a 12600k fine to use with a 7900XT?

keen nacelle
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Depends on resolution

dull marsh
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Hi I’m deaf and sign language first time here greeting

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cursive nova
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ok ty was not sure if it would bottle neck it

olive bobcat
keen nacelle
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Also, ddr4 or ddr5

frank dagger
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GPU display driver crashes are happening again... maybe its the way my system was built as to why its doing it?

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Its mostly from last gen parts too. We checked every peice to be fine last time too

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Ryzen 3900x, corsair ddr4 3600 hrz dominator ram, b550M Pro-P aorus motherboard, samsung 980 pro 1tb, 3080ti FE with enough cooling on everything.
Maybe goin up to win 11 could help???

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frank dagger
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it was power limited 90% via afterburner as a previous change, may as well bring it back. and usually it's always seated correctly. latest driver was installed at the time, tried again with the current driver and still crashed.

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frank dagger
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everything motherboard side is up to date. did 2 cleanses before goin back to an old stable driver from 2 years that always works

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frank dagger
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this point, ima wait for the 50 series and do the gen 5 build. cause a 50 series in ddr4 will be GIGGA BOTTLE'D

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although again, would changin from win 10 to win 11 be a good idea to have driver stability?

vital oriole
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no

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but you might want to anyway

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due to win 10 losing support

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14 october 2025

frank dagger
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i don't get it now... so while i went away for one second it happened on the "Safe driver" then i decided to reseat the card and now it seems to be going fine(????) i don't know what the hell is going on now.

wut do???

vital oriole
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must be a loose connection then

frank dagger
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so it could be either the pcie on the MB, pcie on gpu gettin damage, gpu saggin, or all the above

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it has been on my build since 2021 so ye

vital oriole
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mhm

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anything is possible

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frank dagger
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or i could put a lego block under it

lament widget
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However you engineer it is all good

frank dagger
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Actually, maybe it is the pcie, cause i was able to boot back up after it "dc'd". So if it made the windows dc noise, then i was able to boot up. Its just wiggling on for life. Maybe a small bump was what made the gpu dc from the motherboard, therefore. Gpu sag may have cause damage to the pcie or the pcie is bein damaged and can't hold it securely. Eitherways, ima need to lego support up when i can

frank dagger
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frank dagger
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Im running it now, normally it stops after like, 1 minute of gameplay. I'll see now

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i've been also lightly applying push and it seems to be holding

frank dagger
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ye, its got it safe. pushed my case lightly and it still holds on, lego ain't budging inside so it should be fine for now. i'll probably look up another gpu support bracket but for now. it's got it leveled... i guess i was to blind to see it sag

lament widget
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@frank dagger sent you a dm

frank dagger
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Thanks all btw

odd condor
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i need help

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4080 super zotac i plug it to my PSU 850W thermltake and the card start make weird sound like a boat but when i plug only 2 pcie 8pin its still get power but not show nothing on my screen but no weird sound

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do i need speical cable for it?

hot bough
odd condor
hot bough
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then i am not sure.

hasty sphinx
fading glacier
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brrrrrrr

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no wait, thats a machinegun

keen nacelle
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not really

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theyre very similar

hasty sphinx
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Pull your GPU out and check to make sure nothing is in the path of the fans.

heady turtle
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Crap wrong ping

heady turtle
fading glacier
hasty sphinx
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Lul

plush garden
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Is this a good pc

keen nacelle
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Meh

hot bough
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not great not bad

junior locust
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kinda expensive for what is in it

vital oriole
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if you really want a prebuilt

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that one is decent-ish

junior locust
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Not bad
Not terrible

shut anchor
plush garden
keen nacelle
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Tbf doesn't come out much cheaper so eh

olive bobcat
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@plush garden what is your actual budget

dusky scroll
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With all the customizations

keen nacelle
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^^ it tends to be really bad.

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They also don't assemble it I don't believe

livid idol
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That used to be offered but not any more

olive bobcat
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It’s the best for your budget.

plush garden
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And the storage is ass to

olive bobcat
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There are very very few times where you will ever need a water cooler

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Just upgrade the storage to 2tb lmao

odd siren
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Wow I didn't think I'd get to use this immediately

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Go look here ^^^

olive bobcat
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^^^^^

odd siren
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Multiple sources that show that even the highest end 7950X can be absolutely fine on an air cooler

olive bobcat
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The only CPUs I’ve seen that do better with a liquid cooler, are high end intel CPUs

odd siren
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7950X can benefit *from an aio provided said aio has a good coldplate or offset mount

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But only in pbo scenarios

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If you just use it at stock, the difference will be maybe 1%

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All the others should be more than fine on an air cooler

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Even the 7950X3D and 7900X3D which have lower max tdp than the 7950X

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Also btw, that 1TB ssd is free

olive bobcat
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That too

odd siren
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That's the only real reason we have it there

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Free is way better than paying $70+

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And it's a good one

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SM2263XT TLC HMB Dramless

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Should run really well for free

plush garden
odd siren
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By and large the best gpu in the ~$800 region

plush garden
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Alr

odd siren
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Since you wouldn't get a free SSD so you'd be ultimately paying about $200 more which will eat into that gpu budget

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One sec I'll edit bacca's list

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Put a board and case suggestion in there too, shaves a little more money off *if you get both together

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4070 Ti is also decent if you go cheap here

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You are just gaming yes? If so, 7900XT should be fine, but if you're considering work with like, adobe, blender (nvidia optix specialty), resolve, you'd want the 4070ti instead

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Non-super btw

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The non-super sells for way less than the super version for almost the same performance

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Buy a gpu support stand or get some lego to hold up this particular model, historically late gigabyte models aren't great with the way they sag* inside the pc, so keeping them as straight as possible will help it a lot

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I'd pick a better model but frankly the gaming OC is so cheap and worth doing if you can remember to do that

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Surprised this turned up in my feed just now

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He basically echoes most of what's been said so far and he's not really wrong

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It's just more of a case of what games you'd want to play (e.g lots of fps > 7800x3d is better, lots of AAA > 7600 is better)

keen nacelle
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or perf per $

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especially with how well the gre scales with ocing, i figured $150 less it was a no brainer

odd siren
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But for high end it's excellent

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Since in the high end you pay a premium

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If you look at $/fps curves the value trickles off slowly as you creep more to the high end

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And that's saying this knowing that 40 series really normalised the value curve

plush garden
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@odd siren thoughts of this build

odd siren
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with no case either

plush garden
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I have case alr

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And how that worse it has a 4070ti super lmao

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And good cooling and good storage

odd siren
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aio is known to clog and terribly overkill for the cpu, the chip only needs a basic single tower, the ssd has a huge scandal involved with it where it'll brick itself without the right firmware, and won't get warranty coverage, not to mention it's worse than the fx900 pro I linked

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the 4070 ti super is worse than both cards I suggested, both in performance and performance/$

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the psu is almost a risk with the specs picked

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not nearly up to the safety standard most enthusiasts would suggest

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not trying to roast here but more explain with full intent, we do a lot of research before we make these suggestions

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if you look at the post I made in #old-cooling you should see what I mean by the 7800X3D is already at 99% of it's performance on an AMD stock cooler

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I don't have any qualms with the motherboard picked if you like it, it's a little bit extra for a bit more i/o and aesthetic if that's what you like

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which is good for entry level systems, not high end like a 4070 Ti/7900XT

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the 7800X3D cooling:

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tl;dr 240mm aio vs amd wraith prism stock cooler, aio was only 1-2% better

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under full load at that, which almost never happens in games

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lastly, don't shop purely off of one website, that's how you climb costs into oblivion

opal iron
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Is it safe to ship a gpu with just bubble wrap?

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I read it can create static sometimes

solid glacier
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Anyone know what adapter I need for this

fading glacier
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depends on where or what are you going to connect that

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we dont even know which country are you on, or the electrical regulations there xD

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last time i saw a plug like that was on Argentina

vital oriole
solid glacier
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I got 2 of these things, there massively long projector screens lol there automatic with a remote on the cord

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Not sure what there worth tbh, both new in box

junior locust
junior locust
unreal elm
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are +30C hotspot temps normal underload. I have a 4090 ROG Strix OC and at full load with full fans temps are 78C Core and 110C on the hotspot, would I need to buy thermal pads or do a repaste or are these temps fine when under max load.

vital oriole
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they should be fine

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tho a bit over micron 105c

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id consider a repad

unreal elm
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yeah i'll probably repad and maybe repaste looks like a lot of the asus cards have bad stock thermal paste and pads

solid glacier
junior locust
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yeah you want an EU to NA adapter

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though you might have issues since I believe those will want 240v power

odd siren
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Temps should be around ~10C delta

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15C at most if you're pushing some 550+W

unreal elm
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do you think its worth trying to rma before i do it myself or will asus just mess up the paste again

odd siren
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Depends

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If you've already opened it, well...

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They might still take it?

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But if not, you could rma

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My experience with RMA'ing high hotspot cards tends to be a 50/50 between good or meh results

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On the other hand, arctic MX-6 is a good paste that should also do the trick provided the coldplate on the graphics card isn't lumpy garbage (usually isn't on strix)

unreal elm
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i havent opened it

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ill try the rma first and if nothings really better i’ll repaste

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thanks for the help

odd siren
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Alr

solid glacier
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Hm

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No spot for these on this MOVO

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MOBO

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a520m plus wifi

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They go to my case fan and there rgb hesders

odd siren
solid glacier
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Got it nvm

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Thank you 🙏🏻

unreal elm
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I think im actually just going to repaste, would I need to repad the gpu as well or just repaste it? I have repasted a 2080ti before but I didn't repad it but temps were fine

odd siren
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Depends if you destroy the pads or not

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If you're extremely slow and careful

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The pads are likely to survive

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Usually

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Unless they used ptm7950 in which case the whole thing needs redo not just the core

unreal elm
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so if they used ptm7950 I need to repaste the core and then redo the pads

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would they have used it on the core and on the memory and stuff

odd siren
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Ye

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It'd be on all of it

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It would all look like this ashy paste stuff

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Instead of pads + paste

unreal elm
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from what ive seen online it looks like asus uses pads for the memory so hopefully they didn't change that

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its usually the core that contributes to the hotspot temp right because in one post someone saw like a -20C delta reduction by repasting and changing thermal pads, so I would I need to change the pads even if i dont break them. Memory temps average 70 at load so I feel like thats alright

odd siren
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Depends

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If the paste is just a bad job, repaste will fix

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If it's a bad mount, yes, pads will be a pain

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You'd need to find pads that are either slightly shorter by like half a mm, or same size but squishier

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Or use K5 which is the easy route

unreal elm
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yeah I think I will just get the putty incase I rip anything

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I just need to make it roughly the same dimensions as the original pads right

odd siren
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Shorter or identical

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But more importantly squishy af

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If they don't squish well, they're often garbage

unreal elm
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would you say the K5 Paste/Pad are a good brand

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I think im just going to buy it incase I need it

odd siren
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k5 pro putty imo is good

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not because of the quality itself

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but because of how braindead it makes the whole process

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you don't need to measure anything, just replace pads with putty >>>> profit

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it in itself is a meh conductor of heat

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but extremely reliable in that it removes pads out of the equation to the core mount flatness

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it's messy af but worth it imo

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2 sticks should do a whole 4090

odd siren
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ye

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the pack of 3 chapsticks is what I usually buy

olive bobcat
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@odd siren what’s your opinion on the TUF 3060

odd siren
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excessive

lone pond
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Why is NVidia RTX 4090 classified as "daddy pays" even higher than "overkill" on buildapc site? Just curious

olive bobcat
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huh

vital oriole
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Because uh

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It's expensive

misty granite
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Currently have a 7900XT and i'm running 3 1080p 144hz monitors. Main monitor for gaming.. I have a Ryzen9 3900XT, and with 32gb of ram.

Just ran Superstition Benchmark @ 1080 Extreme with an avg 99.52 max 124.11 - score of 13305.

Does this sound correct/on par for my specs? or is my 3900xt/mobo a bottleneck for my 7900xt?

random walrus
heady turtle
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keen nacelle
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Even at 1440p the 3900x would limit the 7900xt a noticeable amount

torpid garden
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Compare both the cpu and gpu test scores in time spy to see if anything is off.

weak maple
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does anyone know how i would exactly achieve the exact same contrast and vibrance of downloaded shutterstock video as its original?
just name the hardware components i need and ill get them

lone pond
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What's the difference between RTX 4090 D and RTX 4090

torpid garden
olive bobcat
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4090 lite

lone lava
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The D stands for defective

dreamy laurel
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probably just 4090s that didnt make the cut

lone lava
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Like those tri-core AMD CPU’s from ways back that ended up just being quad core chips kekw

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hazy memory but I’m pretty sure a lot of people even got the fourth cores working too.

vital oriole
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its a 4090 cut down

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yeah, you could enable the fourth core back then

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after that the cores are fused off physically

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or just non existent altogether on the cpu

livid idol
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That way they can keep charging exorbitant amounts of money for "gaming" GPUs that will just end up in an AI farm

vital oriole
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^

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the politicians have no idea lmao

livid idol
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They do and they're mad

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But what else would you expect

vital oriole
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ya

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silly tech bans

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now they're targeting huawei harder

livid idol
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It's a business first and foremost, they'll do whatever it takes to earn the most profit

wicked hound
solid glacier
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Pc won’t turn on?

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There’s lights on the mobo but my cpu fans aren’t turning on my gpu fans and my case fans

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?

livid idol
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GRE overclocking looks good now that AMD "fixed" it.
https://youtu.be/q5tbCbm1IYM?si=yl6xcVHv5Z5qahqK

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All 4 models they tested got to at least 20.8gbps

junior locust
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So GRE is even more worth now?

raven wharf
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looks compelling over a 7800xt ig tho

junior locust
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I mean 24 vs 32 would be big

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But 8% perf for free is 8% perf for free

livid idol
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8 frames here is 10% which is getting into the "can be noticed by humans" range. Not bad for a free and easy upgrade.

vital oriole
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an oc that much is worth it

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if it means not hitting 60 fps vs hitting it

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yeah that's noticeable impact

odd siren
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that nitro in the middle there is catching my eye

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oh would you look at that

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huh

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almost like they planned it

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that is really compelling for the price now

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only 3% slower than a 4070 super for 40 less

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it's still kinda trading with the 7800xt here

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but enough to say it's just a good bump, not out of scope and estranged a bit

livid idol
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Falling between the 4070 super and ti super at 1440p is pretty nice for the price

odd siren
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yeah

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I'm actually inclined to the nitro here

livid idol
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When overclocked

odd siren
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which is not normal

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I need to find out which GRE's ship with the higher vbios

livid idol
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Nitro+ had the highest when I looked

odd siren
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steel legend is 5W off

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WHOA

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imagine 116 fps on that chart

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that's steel legend roughly

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116/108

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so that $30 is likely well spent

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you get near nitro perf

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and it's white

keen nacelle
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especially over challenger

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challenger icky

odd siren
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challenger I've been lately trying to steer away from

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coldplate issues

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and the steel legend is probably not immune to this either

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hellhound is also kinda there at 580-ish

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fair uptick

odd siren
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@livid idol good example of the GRE being unhindered by it's bandwidth like we talked about

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just slightly under 7900XT

livid idol
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MW3 does love that vram speed

craggy pier
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I know yall have probably had this conversation 100 times now, but do yall think its worth paying the extra 50 for the gre over the 7800xt?

keen nacelle
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100%

craggy pier
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🙏

keen nacelle
craggy pier
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Oh definitely

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That's awesome to hear, amd to this day being more value by the minute

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I hope amd stays where it does against Nvidia so prices sit all cozy as they do

raven wharf
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gpus are so borrring now

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the low end sucks

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the high end is too expensive

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and mid range are all within like 10-15% of eachother

vital oriole
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id say free extra perf isn't boring

raven wharf
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and are overpriced

vital oriole
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the thing with gre is the vram deficiency

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not amount

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but bus width

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so an oc gives it a boost lmao

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because it really is that handicapped by the bus

keen nacelle
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4060/ti moment

lone pond
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My display card NVIDIA RTX 4050 on ASUS K6502VU laptop display always (black screen, but keyboard backlight is still on and hard drive still running) crashes sometimes when certain applications especially MS Edge, and Windows event log viewer output the following message (with level Error)

The description for Event ID 0 from source nvlddmkm cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.

If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.

The following information was included with the event: 

\Device\Video3
Restarting TDR occurred on GPUID:100

What do I do?

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I am in using the discrete NVIDIA mode only in MyASUS

rustic pulsar
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?ddu

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!ddu

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,ddu

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.ddu

neat ventureBOT
rustic pulsar
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just follow the directions, this erases and then reinstalls the graphics drivers

lone pond
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Appears to work for now it must an Edge issue because I flipped some edge://flags especially about graphics backend from default directx3d 11 to opengl and some "GPU rasterization" and "zero copy video capture" stuff that maybe crashes drivers

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I am unfortunately too new to post images of the exact flags I switched here but they are GPU related

livid idol
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Could be an issue related to switching between GPUs. You get that sometimes.
You'd want to DDU both the dGPU and iGPU drivers, Intel and Nvidia in this case. Then install the latest for both.

lone pond
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Tried following exact instructions installed both NVidia and Intel official drivers and switch back from dGPU mode to MSHybrid (dual GPU mode) now the screen is unfortunately pitch black after boot screen. Heard the windows start-up sound but I see nothing now

livid idol
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Could try disabling one GPU or the other in BIOS

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So you can see which one is acting up

lone pond
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The Intel one

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But the Intel driver from ASUS or Windows update appears to work before

lone pond
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When I DDUed to uninstall the Intel graphics driver it booted up with graphics

lone pond
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I am not going to use that laptop after graduation rather I will join the Build Your Own PC family

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Laptop has no good graphics and definitely not OC

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lone pond
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Clearly Intel display driver issue isn't caused by hardware because it is by Intel not Asus

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Asus website driver somehow works instead

lament widget
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Sure but they might have a solution on specific servers or chipset updates to direct you to. I had an issue with my lenovo that had cross communication issues between amd igpu and nvidia graphics despite changing settings to be one or the other but it got sorted out

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My laptop downloaded studio drivers for my 4060 instead of game ready, and a bios update and chipset update fixed the boot and performance issues.

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Just suggesting going through them before you give up on it

lone pond
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I used drivers which are GRD instead of SD that may be the issue

vital oriole
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Game ready is the one you want for gaming

raven wharf
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what is rdna 3.5

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just mobile gpus?

barren trout
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Could a maximus rog X mb compatible with a 7800xt with a 650watt psu

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Gpu

livid idol
livid idol
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After some time I realized you meant the 7800 XT GPU and not the 7800X3D CPU

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Curse AMD and their naming

livid idol
vital oriole
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nothing big

opal iron
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@shy sluice ray tracing pref seems to be really really bad though

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my 3060ti would max out fps in rt minecraft

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Im struggling to push 30fps

shy sluice
odd siren
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6800 is very weak on RT

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it's software-based

opal iron
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In a survival world

shy sluice
shy sluice
opal iron
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Im sure theres other ones that could probably give me a bit more preformance

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But its not really worth it

shy sluice
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did you try increasing the amount of RAM you can use?

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I haven't played modded minecraft much tbh

opal iron
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It’s bedrock

spare relic
raven wharf
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30-60 fps is what i think i got last time i played around with it on a realm im on

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1440p, 170hz monitor

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it looked pretty good, recently been playing some modded java with shaders that run so much better and look amazing

fading glacier
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what's that? babel's tower?

lone pond
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How do I persuade a streamer that never updates his NVIDIA driver to update. Whenever NVIDIA pops up an update he says I aM nOt UpDaTiNg YoU

spare relic
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get him off streaming kekw

lone pond
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Or if obs some day says "Your graphics driver is no longer supported" and he won't even be able to stream

opal iron
heady turtle
livid idol
odd siren
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Yeah most people who insist on not doing that usually stem from concerns the driver will break and have probably gone through multiple iterations

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I know a lot of people like this

fading glacier
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90% of driver updates are just for "optimization" on newer games

lone pond
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Yeah unless it fixes a serious bug maybe

fading glacier
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thats why i said 90%

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of the time

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to me, he is smart by not update his drivers

#

again... if it works, just dont touch it

#

im still with december drivers on mine

#

they work just fine

keen nacelle
#

Yeah I really don't understand why people are so big on updating drivers ever few months, or hell even every new driver release

#

Sure you should do it at least semi often, but unless there's an issue, bug fix, safety concern, etc, who cares

fading glacier
#

exactly, and like falcie said, unless there is a new feature i want or a bug fix on it, im not updating just for the sake of updating

#

so, regarding your question of how do you persuade that streamer?

#

you dont

#

his/her pc, his/her choices

#

the most you can do is suggest

#

haha speaking of optimizations... i should update mine xD

#

been playing helldivers for like a week on december drivers

#

howerver it runs fine

lone pond
#

Well NVIDIA driver appears to autoupdate and that streamer is obviously not happy about it because during the installation the display adapter performs reset and ended the stream

livid idol
#

You can disable that in settings. In fact, the default is for it not to auto update but just notify when updates are available. It won't even download the update without asking unless you tell it to do so in advance.

lone pond
#

He may accidentally clicked install

odd siren
#

I've never had it autoupdate on me

lone pond
#

Or maybe it is pushed through windows update

odd siren
#

windows update will push through regardless of how the person feels

#

I think there are ways to permanently disable it, but you risk a lot more things breaking as iterations move up with each windows package

#

I almost always check for a windows update before I finish up for the day

#

or prior to doing something important

#

You can almost consider it basic pc care at this point cos windows will eventually make you update it

lone pond
#

There is a group policy or registry key to disable automatic driver updates on corporate devices

odd siren
#

Yes as microsoft cares about large chunks of money rather than the individual

#

It causes way too many issues with virtualisation if they didn't allow it

livid idol
livid idol
#

Ammy?! Where?

raven wharf
dusty belfry
#

I need to buy a graphics card 😡 ahhhh ( and the rtx 5090 is going to release in 9-12 months)

#

It’s a terrible time to buy a gpu but I have to get one

#

What do i do? What should i get? 4070? 6900 used? 7900gre? 😡

#

The problem is the gpu tick and tock cycle,

#

Rtx 4000 series is just like RTX 2000 series

#

And in 9-12 months a big leap, a true big generational uplift will arrive with RTX 5000 series just like RTX 3000 series (minus the crypto explosion)

#

But I have to get a gpu now 😭😭😭

fading glacier
#

there is little incentive to make consumer gpus these days

fading glacier
#

even some say that the 90 class could dissapear on the next gen

#

nvidia is turning all their resources to ai instead

#

not to mention that the big market for them is in china and us is making a lot of restrictions on the cards for them

#

now is a good time to buy a gpu in my opinion

#

but if you want to wait 12+ months for the 50 series, go ahead

dusty belfry
#

Thank it made me feel better 😄

#

We will find out at the next gtc event. Nvidia doesn’t want to loose it’s crown in retail either, they will double down in competition not despite their ai success but thanks to it. With TSMC 4N node I bet the leather guy is going to present a big beefy 32GB GDDR7 5090 for at or less than 1600$

fading glacier
#

dont count on that

#

nvidia doesnt care for the consumer market anymore

dusty belfry
#

We’ll see 😄

fading glacier
#

ai is giving them a ton more money than the consumer market, and the big money makers on that segment was china, and us is pounding it hard with restrcitions.... if somehow a 5090 appears, they will have to cut it down a ton to enter into china, so it will end as another 4090

#

thats why there will be no big leap as you expect

#

50 series should be at most a cut down version of blackwell

#

a really cut down version to fly below the radar

#

nvidia doesnt care about crowns, care about money and right now ai is giving them more money than ever, while the consumer market is giving them more headaches

#

thanks to usa

vital oriole
#

4090D received an oc bios

#

performs the same as 4090 kekw

#

loopholes exploited yet again

lone pond
#

4090 D == China Only version probably

#

due to USA sanctions some of my friends are from Iran they can't get any tech products or services from USA

vital oriole
#

doesn't it target only non tech stuff

fading glacier
hot bough
raven wharf
#

Some of the leaks I’ve seen point to that or early 2025 Q1

odd siren
#

They usually do a 2 year cycle

#

end of the year likely

raven wharf
#

Of 2022?

odd siren
#

around about

#

30 series was about the same time

#

iirc 20 series as well

#

more or less 2 years typically

raven wharf
#

Or probably early next year?

odd siren
#

likely october - december

#

I don't think it's likely to change at this point in time as they just revealed their new blackwell server chips

raven wharf
#

cause you have both flagships from amd and nvidia waterblocked iirc right?

fading glacier
#

he is an enthusiast

#

he will buy them for testing and benchmarking

odd siren
#

I might

#

4090 is kinda in a good place for me atm tbh

#

Have to see after I downsize the cases

raven wharf
#

i think my strategy from now on will just to buy flagships once they are almost oos and half the price of their msrp like my 6950xt was lol

odd siren
livid idol
#

4090 should be plenty for most people for a good few years until CPUs catch up. Unless Ryzen 9000 really delivers on the hype, but it's looking like that previous +25% is more like a +15% at this point. So 7000X3D should still win in most games.

odd siren
#

I see next gen cpus as the answer to bring out the latent performance of the current gen 4090

#

God knows what a 5090 could do, 4090 hasn't even had the chance to show it's complete colours yet

#

It'd absolutely be a 4K card at a minimum, maybe 8K standard

livid idol
#

Native res at that, no DLSS

#

Now I just hope Nvidia finally puts DP 2.1 ports

#

What good is a GPU that can push 4k240 if the interface only supports 4k120 without compression... huge misstep

raven wharf
fading glacier
#

yikes

#

that was a rude answer to felix

#

his money, his choices, no need to make fun of them 😛

lone pond
#

Has anyone toggled the flags in edge://flags or chrome://flags for changing the graphics backend to OpenGL and/or enabling Vulkan etc

It is unfortunately still in experiment so it has a bunch of issues when enabled such as black context menu background when enabling Vulkan

lone pond
#

which default is disabled

livid idol
#

My accelerations are disabled in browsers because I used to watch videos while I played certain games and I wanted my GPU more focused on the game. Plus software mode seems to work best.

spare relic
#

netflix doesn't block screenshots without acceleration kekw

lone pond
#

They will soon ™️

#

Film piracy is definitely against the law (but some people don't care anyway)

vital oriole
#

I experienced an issue where my laptop would flicker as it keeps swapping gpu lmao

#

A game was glitching out hard

#

Tabbing out of it to chrome caused it to spazz out hard

spare relic
#

normal laptop behavior

livid idol
#

Updating the iGPU usually helps with that

#

Or just disable it if not

raven wharf
odd siren
#

I realise it, it's fine

#

I'm honestly not sure if I will

#

Ada refresh, it's bound to be good but rn I feel pretty comfortable

#

4090 was all round a well built product if you looked past the 12vhpwr

#

Same with XTX, makes me doubt we'd see reciprocation of the same quality/experience for next gen

#

Even if the gen itself was overall kinda mid

raven wharf
odd siren
#

blackwell

#

It was stated ages ago it was ada refresh

livid idol
fading glacier
#

been lucky so far then, my 4080 never had any problem and by now is what? a year and a half old?

#

still using the adapter that came on the box

vital oriole
#

less hungry

#

less risk

#

4090 is especially prone due to extra power consumption

#

remember that the fe model does 550w transients lol

#

that's not including other more aggressive vbios from aibs

raven wharf
#

knock on wood how long should my merc 6950xt last

#

considering I got one of the last ones it sat in a box for almost 2 years probably before i used it

#

if that matters

#

xfx has always seemed well built and quality

fading glacier
#

told you a million times to save a lil bit and buy an xtx

#

but you didnt listened

#

still, it will last you like 4 to 6 years with proper maintenance

keen nacelle
spare relic
#

Why do new cards not last any amount of time anymore

raven wharf
#

i got my 6950 for i think 630 after tax which im more than happy with

spare relic
#

Is a 5570 gonna outlast all these cards

keen nacelle
#

6950xt would definitely last longer than 4-6 years, I think maybe rav meant how long it'll keep up in new titles?

#

Imo it should keep up for 7-8 years

fading glacier
#

yeah, relevant to new titles, like 4-6 years

#

alive, 12+ if you give good maintenace

#

i mean, i still have my 750ti running like brand new on my plex

#

thats like... 11 years by now?

#

i plan to do some maintenance on my 4080 in 2 more years at least

#

maybe 3 idk, when temps start to get crazy

keen nacelle
#

I want to upgrade my 3060 ti this year, it's running hot and I don't want to mess with pads/paste, I'm eyeing next gen instead though

#

Since I value efficiency atm (our power bills get high) I'd probably go for something xx70 tier

fading glacier
#

if any 90 tier launch this year, then 70 class should be here by next january

#

big if

#

because nvidia seems like no hurry on the consumer side

#

when the time comes to repad my thing, ill try to have some money anyway in case anything goes wrong xD

odd siren
#

It was a good card at a good price. We went over it many times, plenty of gas in the tank

#

Stop worrying about FOMO kekw

keen nacelle
#

Cheap, efficient, similarly performing and very consumer focused. I highly doubt that though

odd siren
#

Takes ten minutes

#

||Oh, send back? I didn't say anything about that||

raven wharf
solid glacier
#

But idk how to get it back

#

There’s a switch but I don’t see a bring back up

#

Nvm got

spare relic
#

Nintendo

raven wharf
#

@livid idol is this going to be updated eventually?

livid idol
#

Probably. It's not my chart though.

raven wharf
junior locust
#

would you rate the 7900 GRE right under the 7900 XT?

#

Ah crap

#

my bad

heady turtle
#

how it compares to a 4070 super on avg only about 2% better than it so about the same

livid idol
#

That chart also doesn't take into account overclocking. Every GRE should hit 21gbps on memory or better and it makes a big difference.

junior locust
#

that's about 5% extra perf right?

#

on average

livid idol
#

More like 10

#

On the GRE

#

It's 5 on most other GPUs

dense cliff
#

Yall think that 200 dollars for a used 3070ti and 400 for a used 7900xt are fair asking prices? Trying to sell off my old cards to get a 4080.

junior locust
#

10% faster with an OC for the same price isn't anything to scoff at

keen nacelle
#

Those are lowballs too honestly

solid glacier
#

whats a good free vpn i can use to change my country

hot bough
random walrus
#

for a free vpn proton is the top tier

raven wharf
#

if battlemage is actually a thing that is going to happen would it be announced at this?

#

or maybe computex later this year?

livid idol
#

One of the two

#

We'll know soon

vital oriole
#

all we know is intel ain't going away from gpus soon

#

despite all the past rumors

odd siren
#

Despite what feels like every single person at least once saying they're done

vital oriole
#

yep

keen nacelle
#

I could not see them investing this much money just to make a single gen of gpus

livid idol
#

Reports seem to indicate the hardware is done for Battlemage and Celestial is finishing the design phase

long wolf
#

Hey! Thinking to upgrade my gpu for a bit cheap price , which one should I go? Ventus x2 3060 or Zotac twin 3060? Can’t decide any help suggestion will be helpful

olive bobcat
long wolf
#

Have Ryzen5 5600x rog b550f and current gpu 1070 so everything is welcome to replace and upgrade my old gpu 😀

olive bobcat
#

If you can find a used 6800xt, or maybe a new 6700xt.

#

@long wolf

long wolf
#

How can I trust while buying from different country in used items ? (In my city prices are way to high) that’s why I was looking on Newegg/amazon

olive bobcat
#

eBay is a great place to get cheaper parts. Sometimes used.

long wolf
olive bobcat
# long wolf Yeah if I can find someone with above 20+ review
#

There ya go

vital oriole
#

285

#

kinda bleh

#

especially not accounting for shipping

odd siren
#

265 isn't

#

Remember they pay tax over there too

#

after the list price

#

so it'd be more like 245-ish +ship

vital oriole
#

ah

odd siren
#

maybe a little more

#

cos a $300 6700XT

#

They pay tax after the fact

#

It's not that bad

#

esp. when they're 330 rn

livid idol
vital oriole
#
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raven wharf
olive bobcat
#

So I did good @odd siren MikeExcited

final dock
#

$500.00 budget gpu would this work or better option out there

livid idol
#

If you can stretch that to $550 you can get a 7900 GRE, which is much better, especially when you overclock the memory

#

7800 XT isn't much better than the 6800 XT

#

6900 or 6950 XT would also be good options

final dock
#

I need to check to see if a 3 fan can fit since I don't know the size of space 💀

heady turtle
random walrus
#

esp for something like a gaming PC which isn't exactly a necessity, waiting and saving up an extra $50 should be doable

final dock
final dock
#

thats all they honstly need

#

because the one i gave them was a ASUS Rog strix Radeon RX 470 4GB OC Edition

#

you can't even play just cause 2 with it or somewhat Grand Theft Auto IV

i guess i should say minimum wage i think i honestly don't know but since hes going to college and part time he gets reduced fees

hot bough
livid idol
#

There's only a few states that go that low

keen nacelle
#

There's also jobs that pay less

#

Hell I know someone who makes a few $ an hour, all their money is tips

#

I think like 3.25/hr?

hot bough
#

That's messed up unless you live in a area where your rent is like $500/mo.

final dock
#

$14 per hour in Illinois but probably my guess 14.30 to 15

I don't know how much he makes so just a rough guess

keen nacelle
#

I make I think 16.30/hr, min wage is 15.69

final dock
#

15.10 for me although the minimum wage keeps increasing everytime we get a higher wage peepoSadSip

#

At lest my job though isn't looking to bright no libraries are really ordering books currently and cd and DVD shelf are nearly empty.

Soon we won't be selling dad's and music to libraries

#

Although if you still live with your parents making 15.00 and don't have to pay rent that's not bad before moving out

keen nacelle
#

yeah im 18 so still living with my parents

#

where i work Im on track to make assistant store manager within 2 years, which is 90k a year

#

if that happens ill be moving out lol

hot bough
#

Mine is currently commission based. Working as an Assistant/IT person.

raven wharf
heady turtle
wet temple
#

hey, outstanding issue if anyone has any ideas

#

my desktop recently quit, here's a brief description

when playing certain games, my PC would randomly go black and stop putting out any video signal, and the fans would rev up to maximum speed- other processes like chrome would still run and make noise, but the game would crash; any time this happened i'd have to restart my PC by forcefully shutting it off

#

now, for whatever reason, when it boots up, it boots as normal and seems to be running, but there's absolutely zero video output

livid idol
#

Sounds like the GPU crashing

#

DDU might fix that

#

If not the next thing would be to reinstall windows

wet temple
random walrus
#

?ddu

neat ventureBOT
random walrus
#

start with this @wet temple

wet temple
#

i can't

#

there is zero visual output

random walrus
#

oh it's not an occasional thing anymore, I see

wet temple
#

yeah it's constant

random walrus
#

I'd try reseating the GPU, maybe ram as well while you're in there

wet temple
#

ah boy

#

this'll be fun

#

do i need to do anything specific or do i just give her a tug and plug it back in

#

i figured it out, time to see if it works

wet temple
#

something else to note is that weirdly enough, my keyboard and mouse don't light up like they normally do when i turn it on

random walrus
#

yeah that's a bit odd

wet temple
#

fml

#

i'm genuinely at a complete loss here

random walrus
#

might be a PSU issue but I don't really know

wet temple
#

god damnit

#

@livid idol thoughts?

solid glacier
#

Does anyone jave a example of what a elgato confirmation email looks like

craggy warren
#

Hi guys, I have been looking around for graphic cards that work well with my cpu but that I can upgrade without changing for a while. My cpu is a Intel Core i7-11700K

livid idol
#

What kind of budget for the GPU and what power supply do you have?

craggy warren
#

Anything

hot bough
craggy warren
#

Ok

#

Umm $500

#

$400 a $500

#

To

hot bough
#

There we go. Also what size power supply?

#

Also, what is your location. US, CN, MX, etc as that will affect prices and where we look for the tech parts.

#

Asking this so others can better assist you.

craggy warren
#

sorry, ws out for a little bit

#

Rosewill ARC Series, ARC 650, 650W Non-Modular Power Supply

#

and US

keen nacelle
#

And check if your case fits whatever gpu you go with

wraith bramble
#

hey yall wondering if i could get some opinions on my upgrade. Coming from a 3060ti and using a 1440p165hz monitor, I recently picked up a 7900 xt for $1080 ($960 w/o tax) CAD and I was wondering if i'm going a little overkill and would be better off picking up a 7900 gre or 4070S? for ref I was looking at a 4070fe for $830 pre tax and I hadn't looked at the gre too much yet

livid idol
wraith bramble
keen nacelle
#

7900 gre is better value for sure, gpu ocing is very simple honestly

#

Cpu ocing and ram tuning can get complicated

wraith bramble
#

id probably only do gpu cuz id be rocking a 7800x3d or a 7600

keen nacelle
#

Yeah either of those would keep up with a 7900 gre or xt at 1440p

#

7600/7900 gre is a great mid(?) End pairing. Question mark bc imo 7900 gre is still pretty far up there

random walrus
#

7900gre is high end imo

#

Lower high end perhaps, but wouldn't call it midrange

wraith bramble
#

cool appreciate the guidance yall!

solid glacier
#

@odd siren Hye sorry for ping, should my new build get hynix ram? like we did last time

keen nacelle
#

The kit in the list you have is hynix

solid glacier
#

I need to sell my csgo knife :|

solid glacier
#

Anyone know

#

If there’s a way to get around the waiting a week for changing primary email adress on Microsoft?

livid idol
#

Reinstall windows?

random walrus
#

Assuming you mean the email connected to accessing the settings of your Microsoft account, probably not. Security feature

honest forge
#

can someone help i think theres a crypto miner on my pc

vital oriole
honest forge
#

when just sitting on desktop the gpu usage is at 30%

#

but when i open task manager it drops to 0

vital oriole
#

Try minimizing or tabbing out of the task manager while it's running

#

Or, better way. Grab hwinfo64 and run it, watch for gpu usage

honest forge
#

yea i minimized task manager and it staying at 1%

#

i close it and it goes right backj up to 30

#

or sometimes 40

#

wait no

#

its still minimized and it went back up

#

then it was just at 50

#

then opend task manager instantly dropped to 1

vital oriole
#

I'd run malwarebytes to check

#

This sounds suspicious

honest forge
#

is that better than bitdefender

vital oriole
#

Yeah, and it's better to have second opinion

honest forge
#

alright its running now ill let u know

#

i did it and still seems to be happening

vital oriole
#

Found anything?

#

Like any threats

honest forge
#

yeah 11 but some are game hacks so i think they arent actually virus

vital oriole
#

I'd try wiping it all just in case

honest forge
#

yeah i quarantined it all

honest forge
vital oriole
#

hooh boy

#

At this point I'd usually suggest reinstalling windows

#

Cleanest way to go around wiping it all

honest forge
#

yea i have alot of stuff ireally dont want to have to redownload tho

vital oriole
#

Rescue disks might be what you wanna do

#

I think malwarebytes have that feature?

#

If not, use the one from kaspersky

#

It'll run scans without running windows

honest forge
#

alrighjt ill try that after this full scan is done

livid idol
#

Task manager is awful for GPU stats. What it's actually reading is likely the lowest idle state and the percentage of active time in that.
Run hwinfo sensors and see what it says your GPU core load and effective clock are. That'll tell you how much it's actually using.

honest forge
livid idol
#

Ok so it's using that percentage but it's not a high enough load to actually make the gpu do anything

#

200-400MHz is what most GPUs idle at

honest forge
#

alright cool

livid idol
#

A 3080 under load would reach 2000+

#

I'd guess that some background program is using a little of the idle time for animations or something. Apps like Razer Synapse and iCue do that.

honest forge
#

i had it minimized and just opened it back up and it was at 1700

#

then dropped right back down the 3 or 400

livid idol
#

The animation of it opening will give it a very short load

honest forge
#

ah okay

#

thats good to hear then

honest forge
livid idol
#

Windows defender plus an ad blocker

#

I don't pay for AV any more, defender is actually good now

#

Not like on win 8

honest forge
#

oh alright cool

#

yea i have nord vpn and i have the browser settings enabled

#

and i have ublock on

livid idol
#

Perfect

honest forge
#

only thing is ill be honest i do a fair bit of cheesing in games and get most of them from paid reputable sources but just to be sure what are some things i should look out for

#

any detections from windows defender or somethign

livid idol
#

I don't know any specifics about tools like that but generally AV are good at figuring out when an app has more access than normal and it'll flag it.

honest forge
#

yea most flags i see are like gamehack or dll injector

odd siren
#

You can use an antivirus trial or month subscription to do a full system and power virus scan

#

But otherwise a full windows scan is pretty solid

livid idol
#

Even if it's not a program that it specifically recognizes, the heuristics matching is good. Basically it says "hmm, this looks similar to this known virus, better flag it"

odd siren
#

Statistically windows is something like, 99% reliable when they measured it a couple years ago, as long as it has internet access

#

Defender is useless without internet

livid idol
#

But yes 60% offline

odd siren
#

98.8

#

I was pretty close

#

Lol

dusky scroll
#

I think that It is offline too

livid idol
#

If the target is for an offline PC I'd use bitdefender

dusky scroll
#

Cool!

livid idol
#

97.8% offline detection

#

99.99% online

#

A few more false positives but acceptable

velvet grail
#

When will there be an update on the gpu comparison sheet?

fading glacier
#

i dont think any of us know that, that chart sint ours

#

it is still very strong for rough estimations

heady turtle
daring minnow
#

uhhh

#

its been a hot minute hasnt it

#

i havent had the motivation to redo it all

#

lol

forest oasis
#

Would you do it for a Scooby snack

random walrus
#

@keen nacelle what would you say is the best value midrange-lower high range gpu right now? Friend is going to do a build and I haven't been keeping up with gpus much

random walrus
keen nacelle
#

ah

random walrus
keen nacelle
#

diff definition of lower high end lol

random walrus
#

yeah sorry

keen nacelle
#

total budget?

random walrus
#

could go higher than a 6700xt but that was my default value choice

random walrus
#

most intensive games played would probably be baldurs gate and elden ring. not a competitive gamer

keen nacelle
#

wifi not needed?

random walrus
#

I added a pcie card

keen nacelle
#

alr

#

give me a lil bit

random walrus
#

Used could also maybe be an option but they're slightly iffy on it

keen nacelle
#

thats new ^

random walrus
#

thx

keen nacelle
random walrus
#

so the answer is basically 'amd' lol

keen nacelle
#

pretty much lmao

#

aside from used/refurb

#

oh wait

#

one second

random walrus
#

I don't think they need any of the nvidia features anyways

keen nacelle
#

oh nvm

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6900xt was $400 refurb

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but oos

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cheapest nvidia gpu id buy new is 4070 super imo

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ima dm you the long link

random walrus
keen nacelle
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if you want it that is

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it doesnt show amazon warehouse link w/o long link

random walrus
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yeah feel free to dm

random walrus
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anything past that feels a little overkill to me, other than 6800 which is $350 used

keen nacelle
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how much is a 3070/2080 ti/3060 ti, anything around there?

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3070 ti for 300 isnt bad

random walrus
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3060ti is 240

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non-waterblocked 2080ti is 300

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3070 280

keen nacelle
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id try for something with 12gb or more of vram if possible

random walrus
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Yeah I was thinking 10+

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wait 3070Ti is only 8gb

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uuuuugh

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275 6700xt

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Probably going for a 6700xt or 6750xt then.

olive bobcat
random walrus
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I wasn't seeing any that low

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was only looking on ebay *buy now listings though

olive bobcat
random walrus
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Ok, probably just shifting supply then

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There's a waterblocked one for 230 rn

olive bobcat
random walrus
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actually other than vram (1gb) 2080ti is better than 6700xt huh

olive bobcat
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Ye

random walrus
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oh an 6750xt as well

olive bobcat
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2080ti is my budget build card
It’ll last till I get my 4090

random walrus
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imma bit iffy on the blower 2080tis though

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seems loud

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320 for a normal cooler

olive bobcat
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1080ti isn’t a bad choice tho either

random walrus
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lower than I'd like to go

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aiming for 1440p

olive bobcat
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Find those for $140-180

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Ah

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3070s are around the same

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Just missing 3gb of vram

vital oriole
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it would matter tbf

olive bobcat
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It do

vital oriole
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it wouldn't*

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my bad

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8gb is perfectly fine

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either way these two gpus perform the same

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with the plus on 30 series being dlss

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wait, 2080ti does have dlss too

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also my bad

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i personally still would prefer the newer gpu even if it has less vram, cuz in this context you don't lose anything much

random walrus
vital oriole
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at least 12gb+ is the standard for midrange and up these days

vapid thorn
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So I was recently going to purchase the 4090 on nvidia website because it showed it was back in stock the other day and was waiting till today and its back out of stock will the 4080 super run 4k well?

fading glacier
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4080s should be 30% less powerful

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If 4090 will get you 100fps on 4k, tjen 4080s around 70fps as an example... aside from that both can do 4k pretty well

random walrus
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I wonder how lucky you gotta be to get your hands on both of these cards

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Or I guess maybe how good of a bot system you have

odd siren
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I know a guy with one

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They look good

vital oriole
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freakin

odd siren
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Apparently terrible for warranty claims if they have cooling problems tho

vital oriole
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blue radeon ref

odd siren
vital oriole
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damn

random walrus
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I love the avatar one as well

random walrus
odd siren
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They did

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Didn't work

random walrus
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Oop