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still, that was enough to make zotac a meme
they will need a couple generations to clean that stain
Bad service with sapphire . I order , gpu , and psu msi in same time 2024-03-14 , my psu is already coming and my gpu is delayed... why ... never again buying sapphire.
Delivery companies have zero association with anything to do with the card itself
That's a person problem
If you told me the card melted or died when you put it in...well that would sway me, not a logistics issue with something like UPS
Also, it's been what 2 days? That's nothing
Lol
Try ordering watercooling parts, they can take MONTHS depending on your circumstances
1.500$ still delayed when probably my xfx or msi 7900xtx , would already be on the way for 200-
Nope
It's common in a lot of stores out there that picking the expedited option is in fact slower
Try amazon for example
It all comes down to your individual logistics infrastructure
Respectfully, if you had ordered any other card, having a two day processing would have been extremely likely all the same
It's two days
Some stores have 1 week processing
should not
Look up Mwave in Australia
Anything with a supplier tag takes a minimum 1 week
There's one store
Should I quote alphacool?
Umart
Pcbyte?
Like
I have a lot of experience with this 1st hand
2 days is a luxury where I'm from
which I find stupid, he should prioritize expensive orders $$$.. my 400$ psu could wait instead my gpu . rather my point
It's just another number in the queue my guy
Sadly
If you bought a 100K server rack
Sure
You probably would get fast processing
But anything in the consumer space no, it's just a typical order
Thx for your time!
Np
Am I crazy or does Adrenalin come with the auto-detect option on AMD drivers?
yes
auto detect and install
I think it also works for mobo chipset iirc
very convenient if the process is too difficult for some
is a 12600k fine to use with a 7900XT?
Depends on resolution
Hi I’m deaf and sign language first time here greeting
Yes, its perfectly fine.
ok ty was not sure if it would bottle neck it
Good evening
What resolution are you gaming at
Also, ddr4 or ddr5
GPU display driver crashes are happening again... maybe its the way my system was built as to why its doing it?
Its mostly from last gen parts too. We checked every peice to be fine last time too
Ryzen 3900x, corsair ddr4 3600 hrz dominator ram, b550M Pro-P aorus motherboard, samsung 980 pro 1tb, 3080ti FE with enough cooling on everything.
Maybe goin up to win 11 could help???
Any overclock applied to your 3080? If so, maybe revert back to stock. If not, try re seating the card into your board when you have the time. Finally, make sure youre using a game ready driver from nvidia unless you specifically need the studio drivers. My laptop had some funky issues before I realized I wasn't using the correct driver.
it was power limited 90% via afterburner as a previous change, may as well bring it back. and usually it's always seated correctly. latest driver was installed at the time, tried again with the current driver and still crashed.
Maybe make sure your chipset drivers are up to date. If all else fails, try a ddu cleanse and reinstall drivers again. I know my amd cards would have random failures too so I understand the frustration
everything motherboard side is up to date. did 2 cleanses before goin back to an old stable driver from 2 years that always works
Sorry to hear about the headaches friend. A friend had a 3070 fe that kept crashing his system on spiderman and borderlands 3. Couldnt diagnose it so we went with a 6800 and it hasnt happened since. Not sure if theres an issue with FE cards but its dumb that no driver in two years hasnt fixed the problem for you.
this point, ima wait for the 50 series and do the gen 5 build. cause a 50 series in ddr4 will be GIGGA BOTTLE'D
although again, would changin from win 10 to win 11 be a good idea to have driver stability?
Depends on which card tbf
i don't get it now... so while i went away for one second it happened on the "Safe driver" then i decided to reseat the card and now it seems to be going fine(????) i don't know what the hell is going on now.
wut do???
must be a loose connection then
so it could be either the pcie on the MB, pcie on gpu gettin damage, gpu saggin, or all the above
it has been on my build since 2021 so ye
Take the w. Maybe find a cheap gpu support on your favorite retailer site. I have one for my xfx card and its honestly a big relief for me to have it there.
or i could put a lego block under it
However you engineer it is all good
Actually, maybe it is the pcie, cause i was able to boot back up after it "dc'd". So if it made the windows dc noise, then i was able to boot up. Its just wiggling on for life. Maybe a small bump was what made the gpu dc from the motherboard, therefore. Gpu sag may have cause damage to the pcie or the pcie is bein damaged and can't hold it securely. Eitherways, ima need to lego support up when i can
what kind of xfx do you have
ye... it was freakin sagging hard, my gpu did kinda bust the pcie support then. put some lego under and it's leveled now
7900xt speedster merc 310
Got some consistency then?
Im running it now, normally it stops after like, 1 minute of gameplay. I'll see now
i've been also lightly applying push and it seems to be holding
ye, its got it safe. pushed my case lightly and it still holds on, lego ain't budging inside so it should be fine for now. i'll probably look up another gpu support bracket but for now. it's got it leveled... i guess i was to blind to see it sag
@frank dagger sent you a dm
Thanks all btw
i need help
4080 super zotac i plug it to my PSU 850W thermltake and the card start make weird sound like a boat but when i plug only 2 pcie 8pin its still get power but not show nothing on my screen but no weird sound
do i need speical cable for it?
Do you have the 12VHPWR cable that RTC 4000 series graphics cards use?
i have PSU Toughpower GF3 850W come with only 300W 12VHPWR
then i am not sure.
What do you mean "makes sound like a boat"? Boats make many different noises.
Blub blub blub
i made a video with the problem i not sure what to do
That sounds like your fan is hitting something.
Pull your GPU out and check to make sure nothing is in the path of the fans.
That would be the worlds tiniest upgrade
Crap wrong ping
@stray bloom ^ meant for you

Lul
Is this a good pc
Meh
not great not bad
kinda expensive for what is in it
Not bad
Not terrible
Nah
Can you find better for that price
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Ultra-4070-Super-Gaming-PC
Swap cpu to 7600, add in the free rebate, add in keyboard/mouse/headphones as you need, and swap the ram to this yourself
Tbf doesn't come out much cheaper so eh
There's this, but newegg currently does not have the best track record. https://www.newegg.com/abs-za13400f4070-cyclone-aqua/p/N82E16883360484?Item=N82E16883360484&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-484-_-03202024
I imagine you're not willing to build yourself, but
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MPJmjH
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower
Can even fit 4080 in budget, ssd is free with the cpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QR4BHG
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER, Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower
Or $1230 4070 super build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dfpmjH
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER, Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower
You can customize your own PC on newegg PC builder that's available on their website.
With all the customizations
That used to be offered but not any more
1800
@plush garden buy this.
It’s the best for your budget.
But the cooling is ass and the cooler is to id need a 360mm cooler for that atleast
And the storage is ass to
The cooling is not
That cpu doesn’t run hot at all
There are very very few times where you will ever need a water cooler
Just upgrade the storage to 2tb lmao
Wow I didn't think I'd get to use this immediately
@plush garden #old-cooling message
Go look here ^^^
^^^^^
Multiple sources that show that even the highest end 7950X can be absolutely fine on an air cooler
The only CPUs I’ve seen that do better with a liquid cooler, are high end intel CPUs
7950X can benefit *from an aio provided said aio has a good coldplate or offset mount
But only in pbo scenarios
If you just use it at stock, the difference will be maybe 1%
All the others should be more than fine on an air cooler
Even the 7950X3D and 7900X3D which have lower max tdp than the 7950X
Also btw, that 1TB ssd is free
That too
That's the only real reason we have it there
Free is way better than paying $70+
And it's a good one
SM2263XT TLC HMB Dramless
Should run really well for free
And shouldn’t I go for the ryzen 77800x3d
You could, though I would recommend a 7900XT as a gpu instead for that
By and large the best gpu in the ~$800 region
Alr
Since you wouldn't get a free SSD so you'd be ultimately paying about $200 more which will eat into that gpu budget
One sec I'll edit bacca's list
@plush garden https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rHbdWt
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Radeon RX 7900 XT, SAMA IM01 MicroATX Mini Tower
Put a board and case suggestion in there too, shaves a little more money off *if you get both together
4070 Ti is also decent if you go cheap here
You are just gaming yes? If so, 7900XT should be fine, but if you're considering work with like, adobe, blender (nvidia optix specialty), resolve, you'd want the 4070ti instead
Non-super btw
The non-super sells for way less than the super version for almost the same performance
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, SAMA IM01 MicroATX Mini Tower
Buy a gpu support stand or get some lego to hold up this particular model, historically late gigabyte models aren't great with the way they sag* inside the pc, so keeping them as straight as possible will help it a lot
I'd pick a better model but frankly the gaming OC is so cheap and worth doing if you can remember to do that
Surprised this turned up in my feed just now
He basically echoes most of what's been said so far and he's not really wrong
It's just more of a case of what games you'd want to play (e.g lots of fps > 7800x3d is better, lots of AAA > 7600 is better)
how is it $ per frame compared to the GRE
or perf per $
especially with how well the gre scales with ocing, i figured $150 less it was a no brainer
At 699? Arguably it's probably slightly worse
But for high end it's excellent
Since in the high end you pay a premium
If you look at $/fps curves the value trickles off slowly as you creep more to the high end
And that's saying this knowing that 40 series really normalised the value curve
arguably worse than what we sent
with no case either
I have case alr
And how that worse it has a 4070ti super lmao
And good cooling and good storage
aio is known to clog and terribly overkill for the cpu, the chip only needs a basic single tower, the ssd has a huge scandal involved with it where it'll brick itself without the right firmware, and won't get warranty coverage, not to mention it's worse than the fx900 pro I linked
the 4070 ti super is worse than both cards I suggested, both in performance and performance/$
the psu is almost a risk with the specs picked
not nearly up to the safety standard most enthusiasts would suggest
not trying to roast here but more explain with full intent, we do a lot of research before we make these suggestions
if you look at the post I made in #old-cooling you should see what I mean by the 7800X3D is already at 99% of it's performance on an AMD stock cooler
I don't have any qualms with the motherboard picked if you like it, it's a little bit extra for a bit more i/o and aesthetic if that's what you like
the FX900 pro is a better SSD and 2TB instead of the 1TB 980 pro, regarding the 980 pro:
https://www.pcgamer.com/an-error-in-samsungs-980-pro-firmware-is-causing-ssds-to-die-id-check-your-drive-right-now-tbh/
to quote the psu tier list, Corsair CX is somewhere about "Tier C":
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
which is good for entry level systems, not high end like a 4070 Ti/7900XT
the 7800X3D cooling:
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tl;dr 240mm aio vs amd wraith prism stock cooler, aio was only 1-2% better
under full load at that, which almost never happens in games
lastly, don't shop purely off of one website, that's how you climb costs into oblivion
depends on where or what are you going to connect that
we dont even know which country are you on, or the electrical regulations there xD
last time i saw a plug like that was on Argentina
you will need an eu plug adapter
I got 2 of these things, there massively long projector screens lol there automatic with a remote on the cord
Not sure what there worth tbh, both new in box
we have them here in Hungary
where do you live? NA I assume?
are +30C hotspot temps normal underload. I have a 4090 ROG Strix OC and at full load with full fans temps are 78C Core and 110C on the hotspot, would I need to buy thermal pads or do a repaste or are these temps fine when under max load.
yeah i'll probably repad and maybe repaste looks like a lot of the asus cards have bad stock thermal paste and pads
Ye
yeah you want an EU to NA adapter
though you might have issues since I believe those will want 240v power
Repaste it
Temps should be around ~10C delta
15C at most if you're pushing some 550+W
do you think its worth trying to rma before i do it myself or will asus just mess up the paste again
Depends
If you've already opened it, well...
They might still take it?
But if not, you could rma
My experience with RMA'ing high hotspot cards tends to be a 50/50 between good or meh results
On the other hand, arctic MX-6 is a good paste that should also do the trick provided the coldplate on the graphics card isn't lumpy garbage (usually isn't on strix)
i havent opened it
ill try the rma first and if nothings really better i’ll repaste
thanks for the help
Alr
Hm
No spot for these on this MOVO
MOBO
a520m plus wifi
They go to my case fan and there rgb hesders
I think im actually just going to repaste, would I need to repad the gpu as well or just repaste it? I have repasted a 2080ti before but I didn't repad it but temps were fine
Depends if you destroy the pads or not
If you're extremely slow and careful
The pads are likely to survive
Usually
Unless they used ptm7950 in which case the whole thing needs redo not just the core
so if they used ptm7950 I need to repaste the core and then redo the pads
would they have used it on the core and on the memory and stuff
Ye
It'd be on all of it
It would all look like this ashy paste stuff
Instead of pads + paste
from what ive seen online it looks like asus uses pads for the memory so hopefully they didn't change that
its usually the core that contributes to the hotspot temp right because in one post someone saw like a -20C delta reduction by repasting and changing thermal pads, so I would I need to change the pads even if i dont break them. Memory temps average 70 at load so I feel like thats alright
Depends
If the paste is just a bad job, repaste will fix
If it's a bad mount, yes, pads will be a pain
You'd need to find pads that are either slightly shorter by like half a mm, or same size but squishier
Or use K5 which is the easy route
yeah I think I will just get the putty incase I rip anything
I just need to make it roughly the same dimensions as the original pads right
Shorter or identical
But more importantly squishy af
If they don't squish well, they're often garbage
would you say the K5 Paste/Pad are a good brand
I think im just going to buy it incase I need it
k5 pro putty imo is good
not because of the quality itself
but because of how braindead it makes the whole process
you don't need to measure anything, just replace pads with putty >>>> profit
it in itself is a meh conductor of heat
but extremely reliable in that it removes pads out of the equation to the core mount flatness
it's messy af but worth it imo
2 sticks should do a whole 4090
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@odd siren what’s your opinion on the TUF 3060
excessive
Why is NVidia RTX 4090 classified as "daddy pays" even higher than "overkill" on buildapc site? Just curious
huh
Currently have a 7900XT and i'm running 3 1080p 144hz monitors. Main monitor for gaming.. I have a Ryzen9 3900XT, and with 32gb of ram.
Just ran Superstition Benchmark @ 1080 Extreme with an avg 99.52 max 124.11 - score of 13305.
Does this sound correct/on par for my specs? or is my 3900xt/mobo a bottleneck for my 7900xt?
At 1080p I wouldn't be surprised depending on the game
1080p you're going to have a large cpu bottleneck, 7900xt is easily able for 1440p
3900x may be getting more dated, but its still a fine cpu. But it doesnt have the IPC improvements that zen 3 and 4 have. If you were at 1440p, your bottle neck would switch more gpu limiting functionality. If you're mostly gaming, a 5600x3D or 5700x3D would be better in the long run and alleviate some bottleneck.
Even at 1440p the 3900x would limit the 7900xt a noticeable amount
Just run any 3dmark bench and it'll show you a histogram of scores for your cpu/gpu combo.
Compare both the cpu and gpu test scores in time spy to see if anything is off.
does anyone know how i would exactly achieve the exact same contrast and vibrance of downloaded shutterstock video as its original?
just name the hardware components i need and ill get them
What's the difference between RTX 4090 D and RTX 4090
4090 lite
being honest probably
probably just 4090s that didnt make the cut
Like those tri-core AMD CPU’s from ways back that ended up just being quad core chips 
hazy memory but I’m pretty sure a lot of people even got the fourth cores working too.
its a 4090 cut down
yeah, you could enable the fourth core back then
after that the cores are fused off physically
or just non existent altogether on the cpu
In a normal market this would be the case, but it's actually designed to be exactly enough power to fall under the export regulation's limit so they can sell it in China (and other restricted countries)
That way they can keep charging exorbitant amounts of money for "gaming" GPUs that will just end up in an AI farm
It's a business first and foremost, they'll do whatever it takes to earn the most profit
They set the limits and then got angry when the limits were reached. Set the limits to what you actually want or just dont do anything at all.
Pc won’t turn on?
There’s lights on the mobo but my cpu fans aren’t turning on my gpu fans and my case fans
?
GRE overclocking looks good now that AMD "fixed" it.
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GeForce RTX 4070...
All 4 models they tested got to at least 20.8gbps
So GRE is even more worth now?
wow 8 more frames
looks compelling over a 7800xt ig tho
8 frames here is 10% which is getting into the "can be noticed by humans" range. Not bad for a free and easy upgrade.
an oc that much is worth it
if it means not hitting 60 fps vs hitting it
yeah that's noticeable impact
that nitro in the middle there is catching my eye
oh would you look at that
huh
almost like they planned it
that is really compelling for the price now
only 3% slower than a 4070 super for 40 less
it's still kinda trading with the 7800xt here
but enough to say it's just a good bump, not out of scope and estranged a bit
Falling between the 4070 super and ti super at 1440p is pretty nice for the price
When overclocked
Nitro+ had the highest when I looked
steel legend is 5W off
WHOA

imagine 116 fps on that chart
that's steel legend roughly
116/108
so that $30 is likely well spent
you get near nitro perf
and it's white
challenger I've been lately trying to steer away from
coldplate issues
and the steel legend is probably not immune to this either
hellhound is also kinda there at 580-ish
fair uptick
@livid idol good example of the GRE being unhindered by it's bandwidth like we talked about
just slightly under 7900XT
MW3 does love that vram speed
I know yall have probably had this conversation 100 times now, but do yall think its worth paying the extra 50 for the gre over the 7800xt?
100%
🙏
if youd be open to ocing, youd see an even bigger gap between the cards
Oh definitely
That's awesome to hear, amd to this day being more value by the minute
I hope amd stays where it does against Nvidia so prices sit all cozy as they do
but its soo borrrring
gpus are so borrring now
the low end sucks
the high end is too expensive
and mid range are all within like 10-15% of eachother
id say free extra perf isn't boring
and are overpriced
the thing with gre is the vram deficiency
not amount
but bus width
so an oc gives it a boost lmao
because it really is that handicapped by the bus
4060/ti moment
My display card NVIDIA RTX 4050 on ASUS K6502VU laptop display always (black screen, but keyboard backlight is still on and hard drive still running) crashes sometimes when certain applications especially MS Edge, and Windows event log viewer output the following message (with level Error)
The description for Event ID 0 from source nvlddmkm cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.
If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.
The following information was included with the event:
\Device\Video3
Restarting TDR occurred on GPUID:100
What do I do?
I am in using the discrete NVIDIA mode only in MyASUS
maybe try a ddu
?ddu
!ddu
,ddu
.ddu
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
just follow the directions, this erases and then reinstalls the graphics drivers
Appears to work for now it must an Edge issue because I flipped some edge://flags especially about graphics backend from default directx3d 11 to opengl and some "GPU rasterization" and "zero copy video capture" stuff that maybe crashes drivers
I am unfortunately too new to post images of the exact flags I switched here but they are GPU related
Could be an issue related to switching between GPUs. You get that sometimes.
You'd want to DDU both the dGPU and iGPU drivers, Intel and Nvidia in this case. Then install the latest for both.
Tried following exact instructions installed both NVidia and Intel official drivers and switch back from dGPU mode to MSHybrid (dual GPU mode) now the screen is unfortunately pitch black after boot screen. Heard the windows start-up sound but I see nothing now
Could try disabling one GPU or the other in BIOS
So you can see which one is acting up
No option to do in that junk laptop ASUS BIOS
When I DDUed to uninstall the Intel graphics driver it booted up with graphics
I am not going to use that laptop after graduation rather I will join the Build Your Own PC family
Laptop has no good graphics and definitely not OC
Is there any customer support you can reach out to?
Asus probably still in warranty but they won't fix driver issues
Clearly Intel display driver issue isn't caused by hardware because it is by Intel not Asus
Asus website driver somehow works instead
Sure but they might have a solution on specific servers or chipset updates to direct you to. I had an issue with my lenovo that had cross communication issues between amd igpu and nvidia graphics despite changing settings to be one or the other but it got sorted out
My laptop downloaded studio drivers for my 4060 instead of game ready, and a bios update and chipset update fixed the boot and performance issues.
Just suggesting going through them before you give up on it
I used drivers which are GRD instead of SD that may be the issue
Game ready is the one you want for gaming
Which maximus board exactly? There's several but I don't think any have AMD sockets.
After some time I realized you meant the 7800 XT GPU and not the 7800X3D CPU
Curse AMD and their naming
I'm guessing you mean the Z370 model, in which case I'd consider upgrading that soon but it'll work
@shy sluice ray tracing pref seems to be really really bad though
my 3060ti would max out fps in rt minecraft
Im struggling to push 30fps
AMD is generally weaker on RTX performance. Are you playing one of the Nvidia RTX maps or is it some kind of shader type thing?
An rtx texture pack
In a survival world
30fps? on 4k?
are there other rtx texture packs you can try?
144, 1080p
Im sure theres other ones that could probably give me a bit more preformance
But its not really worth it
did you try increasing the amount of RAM you can use?
I haven't played modded minecraft much tbh
It’s bedrock
Pretty silly that you need to download a specific map to use it
nvidia things
my 6950xt merc struggles in RTX on bedrock
30-60 fps is what i think i got last time i played around with it on a realm im on
1440p, 170hz monitor
it looked pretty good, recently been playing some modded java with shaders that run so much better and look amazing
what's that? babel's tower?
How do I persuade a streamer that never updates his NVIDIA driver to update. Whenever NVIDIA pops up an update he says I aM nOt UpDaTiNg YoU
get him off streaming 
Or if obs some day says "Your graphics driver is no longer supported" and he won't even be able to stream
Dont, if he wants to be dumb and intentionally stunt his pc preformance thats on him
Also possibly just does it as a bit and updates off stream
There's not a lot of reason to update every time there's one available. Often there's a bug in the new version so I tend to stay on one I know is stable and update when there's a new game or feature I want.
Yeah most people who insist on not doing that usually stem from concerns the driver will break and have probably gone through multiple iterations
I know a lot of people like this
if it works why should he update his drivers?
90% of driver updates are just for "optimization" on newer games
Yeah unless it fixes a serious bug maybe
thats why i said 90%
of the time
to me, he is smart by not update his drivers
again... if it works, just dont touch it
im still with december drivers on mine
they work just fine
Yeah I really don't understand why people are so big on updating drivers ever few months, or hell even every new driver release
Sure you should do it at least semi often, but unless there's an issue, bug fix, safety concern, etc, who cares
exactly, and like falcie said, unless there is a new feature i want or a bug fix on it, im not updating just for the sake of updating
so, regarding your question of how do you persuade that streamer?
you dont
his/her pc, his/her choices
the most you can do is suggest
haha speaking of optimizations... i should update mine xD
been playing helldivers for like a week on december drivers
howerver it runs fine
Well NVIDIA driver appears to autoupdate and that streamer is obviously not happy about it because during the installation the display adapter performs reset and ended the stream
You can disable that in settings. In fact, the default is for it not to auto update but just notify when updates are available. It won't even download the update without asking unless you tell it to do so in advance.
He may accidentally clicked install
I've never had it autoupdate on me
Or maybe it is pushed through windows update
windows update will push through regardless of how the person feels
I think there are ways to permanently disable it, but you risk a lot more things breaking as iterations move up with each windows package
I almost always check for a windows update before I finish up for the day
or prior to doing something important
You can almost consider it basic pc care at this point cos windows will eventually make you update it
There is a group policy or registry key to disable automatic driver updates on corporate devices
Yes as microsoft cares about large chunks of money rather than the individual
It causes way too many issues with virtualisation if they didn't allow it
Gpedit is only for pro or higher, and it likes to ignore the registry setting if there's an "urgent" update
ITS AMATARASU
Ammy?! Where?
A base I started working on in a realm then kinda gave up on lol haven’t worked on it in months
I need to buy a graphics card 😡 ahhhh ( and the rtx 5090 is going to release in 9-12 months)
It’s a terrible time to buy a gpu but I have to get one
What do i do? What should i get? 4070? 6900 used? 7900gre? 😡
The problem is the gpu tick and tock cycle,
Rtx 4000 series is just like RTX 2000 series
And in 9-12 months a big leap, a true big generational uplift will arrive with RTX 5000 series just like RTX 3000 series (minus the crypto explosion)
But I have to get a gpu now 😭😭😭
maybe more than that
there is little incentive to make consumer gpus these days
nel, not a big leap... all the leaks point to 30% uplift from the 4090 to the suppossed 5090
even some say that the 90 class could dissapear on the next gen
nvidia is turning all their resources to ai instead
not to mention that the big market for them is in china and us is making a lot of restrictions on the cards for them
now is a good time to buy a gpu in my opinion
but if you want to wait 12+ months for the 50 series, go ahead
Thank it made me feel better 😄
We will find out at the next gtc event. Nvidia doesn’t want to loose it’s crown in retail either, they will double down in competition not despite their ai success but thanks to it. With TSMC 4N node I bet the leather guy is going to present a big beefy 32GB GDDR7 5090 for at or less than 1600$
We’ll see 😄
ai is giving them a ton more money than the consumer market, and the big money makers on that segment was china, and us is pounding it hard with restrcitions.... if somehow a 5090 appears, they will have to cut it down a ton to enter into china, so it will end as another 4090
thats why there will be no big leap as you expect
50 series should be at most a cut down version of blackwell
a really cut down version to fly below the radar
nvidia doesnt care about crowns, care about money and right now ai is giving them more money than ever, while the consumer market is giving them more headaches
thanks to usa
4090D received an oc bios
performs the same as 4090 
loopholes exploited yet again
4090 D == China Only version probably
due to USA sanctions some of my friends are from Iran they can't get any tech products or services from USA
doesn't it target only non tech stuff
probably? thats a fact
👍
I can see it launching by Q4
Some of the leaks I’ve seen point to that or early 2025 Q1
For current gen didn’t nvidia do like October and RDNA3 in like December
Of 2022?
around about
30 series was about the same time
iirc 20 series as well
more or less 2 years typically
Do you think we’d see an October-December launch for next gen?
Or probably early next year?
likely october - december
I don't think it's likely to change at this point in time as they just revealed their new blackwell server chips
do you plan on upgrading within the first few months
cause you have both flagships from amd and nvidia waterblocked iirc right?
I might
4090 is kinda in a good place for me atm tbh
Have to see after I downsize the cases
have fun paying 3k for the 50 flagship
i think my strategy from now on will just to buy flagships once they are almost oos and half the price of their msrp like my 6950xt was lol
Did you ask me the question purely to say that

4090 should be plenty for most people for a good few years until CPUs catch up. Unless Ryzen 9000 really delivers on the hype, but it's looking like that previous +25% is more like a +15% at this point. So 7000X3D should still win in most games.
I see next gen cpus as the answer to bring out the latent performance of the current gen 4090
God knows what a 5090 could do, 4090 hasn't even had the chance to show it's complete colours yet
It'd absolutely be a 4K card at a minimum, maybe 8K standard
Native res at that, no DLSS
Now I just hope Nvidia finally puts DP 2.1 ports
What good is a GPU that can push 4k240 if the interface only supports 4k120 without compression... huge misstep
noooo
yikes
that was a rude answer to felix
his money, his choices, no need to make fun of them 😛
Has anyone toggled the flags in edge://flags or chrome://flags for changing the graphics backend to OpenGL and/or enabling Vulkan etc
It is unfortunately still in experiment so it has a bunch of issues when enabled such as black context menu background when enabling Vulkan
which default is disabled
My accelerations are disabled in browsers because I used to watch videos while I played certain games and I wanted my GPU more focused on the game. Plus software mode seems to work best.
netflix doesn't block screenshots without acceleration 
They will soon ™️
Film piracy is definitely against the law (but some people don't care anyway)
I experienced an issue where my laptop would flicker as it keeps swapping gpu lmao
A game was glitching out hard
Tabbing out of it to chrome caused it to spazz out hard
normal laptop behavior
was joking but okay
I realise it, it's fine

I'm honestly not sure if I will
Ada refresh, it's bound to be good but rn I feel pretty comfortable
4090 was all round a well built product if you looked past the 12vhpwr
Same with XTX, makes me doubt we'd see reciprocation of the same quality/experience for next gen
Even if the gen itself was overall kinda mid
Wdym by ada refresh? As in the SUPERs?
That's a pretty hard one to look past tbh. Bad design from everyone.
been lucky so far then, my 4080 never had any problem and by now is what? a year and a half old?
still using the adapter that came on the box
less hungry
less risk
4090 is especially prone due to extra power consumption
remember that the fe model does 550w transients lol
that's not including other more aggressive vbios from aibs
knock on wood how long should my merc 6950xt last
considering I got one of the last ones it sat in a box for almost 2 years probably before i used it
if that matters
xfx has always seemed well built and quality
told you a million times to save a lil bit and buy an xtx
but you didnt listened
still, it will last you like 4 to 6 years with proper maintenance
If the 6950xt was $500 or thereabouts it was better value
Why do new cards not last any amount of time anymore
I had no reason to drop 1000 after tax and shipping on a gpu
i got my 6950 for i think 630 after tax which im more than happy with
Is a 5570 gonna outlast all these cards
6950xt would definitely last longer than 4-6 years, I think maybe rav meant how long it'll keep up in new titles?
Imo it should keep up for 7-8 years
yeah, relevant to new titles, like 4-6 years
alive, 12+ if you give good maintenace
i mean, i still have my 750ti running like brand new on my plex
thats like... 11 years by now?
i plan to do some maintenance on my 4080 in 2 more years at least
maybe 3 idk, when temps start to get crazy
I want to upgrade my 3060 ti this year, it's running hot and I don't want to mess with pads/paste, I'm eyeing next gen instead though
Since I value efficiency atm (our power bills get high) I'd probably go for something xx70 tier
if any 90 tier launch this year, then 70 class should be here by next january
big if
because nvidia seems like no hurry on the consumer side
when the time comes to repad my thing, ill try to have some money anyway in case anything goes wrong xD
Depending how big fiber takes off in the next 10 years, you could see it lasting a long time, or see all current and previous gpu's outmoded within a couple years
It was a good card at a good price. We went over it many times, plenty of gas in the tank
Stop worrying about FOMO 
I'm hoping next gen is a 16 series type deal
Cheap, efficient, similarly performing and very consumer focused. I highly doubt that though
Send it to me I'll repaste it
Takes ten minutes
||Oh, send back? I didn't say anything about that||
with prices of high end i dont have fomo anymore lol
But idk how to get it back
There’s a switch but I don’t see a bring back up
Nvm got
Nintendo
@livid idol is this going to be updated eventually?
Probably. It's not my chart though.
oh i didnt read who it was credited to mb
it is
how it compares to a 4070 super on avg only about 2% better than it so about the same
That chart also doesn't take into account overclocking. Every GRE should hit 21gbps on memory or better and it makes a big difference.
Yall think that 200 dollars for a used 3070ti and 400 for a used 7900xt are fair asking prices? Trying to sell off my old cards to get a 4080.
Oh okay that actually swings it around the other way lel
10% faster with an OC for the same price isn't anything to scoff at
You could easily do 275 and 550
Those are lowballs too honestly
whats a good free vpn i can use to change my country
proton is decent
for a free vpn proton is the top tier
if battlemage is actually a thing that is going to happen would it be announced at this?
or maybe computex later this year?
Despite what feels like every single person at least once saying they're done
yep
I could not see them investing this much money just to make a single gen of gpus
Reports seem to indicate the hardware is done for Battlemage and Celestial is finishing the design phase
Hey! Thinking to upgrade my gpu for a bit cheap price , which one should I go? Ventus x2 3060 or Zotac twin 3060? Can’t decide any help suggestion will be helpful
What’s your budget for an upgrade for your gpu?
300$ max
Have Ryzen5 5600x rog b550f and current gpu 1070 so everything is welcome to replace and upgrade my old gpu 😀
How can I trust while buying from different country in used items ? (In my city prices are way to high) that’s why I was looking on Newegg/amazon
Check out the website you’re buying from and their policy on DOA(dead on arrival) or scammed parts.
eBay is a great place to get cheaper parts. Sometimes used.
Yeah if I can find someone with above 20+ review
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265 isn't
Remember they pay tax over there too
after the list price
so it'd be more like 245-ish +ship
ah
maybe a little more
cos a $300 6700XT
They pay tax after the fact
It's not that bad
esp. when they're 330 rn
I always forget that other countries include taxes in the prices. Why must we make things so complicated... Every state, county, city, even subdivision has its own tax rate.
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the triple fan is actually clean
So I did good @odd siren 
Can you imagine state by state 😅
$500.00 budget gpu would this work or better option out there
If you can stretch that to $550 you can get a 7900 GRE, which is much better, especially when you overclock the memory
7800 XT isn't much better than the 6800 XT
6900 or 6950 XT would also be good options
Also this is a better choice of 7800xt
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BtkH99/powercolor-hellhound-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-7800-xt-16g-loc
$450 open box 4070, $430 6800xt
For a realtive who has a low paying job
I need to check to see if a 3 fan can fit since I don't know the size of space 💀
Not to give financial advice but if they can't stretch 50 more for a much better product they probably shouldn't be buying the 500$ product in the first place
esp for something like a gaming PC which isn't exactly a necessity, waiting and saving up an extra $50 should be doable
there in collage almost done but like no extra he still lives with his parents
i gave them my old pc, just needs a gpu 😄
thats all they honstly need
because the one i gave them was a ASUS Rog strix Radeon RX 470 4GB OC Edition
you can't even play just cause 2 with it or somewhat Grand Theft Auto IV
i guess i should say minimum wage i think i honestly don't know but since hes going to college and part time he gets reduced fees
Assuming the US, the lowest you can pay a employee is $7.25/hour so a few hours and your done.
There's only a few states that go that low
There's also jobs that pay less
Hell I know someone who makes a few $ an hour, all their money is tips
I think like 3.25/hr?
That's messed up unless you live in a area where your rent is like $500/mo.
$14 per hour in Illinois but probably my guess 14.30 to 15
I don't know how much he makes so just a rough guess
I make I think 16.30/hr, min wage is 15.69
15.10 for me although the minimum wage keeps increasing everytime we get a higher wage 
At lest my job though isn't looking to bright no libraries are really ordering books currently and cd and DVD shelf are nearly empty.
Soon we won't be selling dad's and music to libraries
Although if you still live with your parents making 15.00 and don't have to pay rent that's not bad before moving out
yeah im 18 so still living with my parents
where i work Im on track to make assistant store manager within 2 years, which is 90k a year
if that happens ill be moving out lol
Mine is currently commission based. Working as an Assistant/IT person.
im a shift manager making 13.50 and barely get over 20 hours a week rn

90k at 20 years old is insane
Because for some reason the US allows employers to assume the other 4.25 or whatever will be made up in wages
hey, outstanding issue if anyone has any ideas
my desktop recently quit, here's a brief description
when playing certain games, my PC would randomly go black and stop putting out any video signal, and the fans would rev up to maximum speed- other processes like chrome would still run and make noise, but the game would crash; any time this happened i'd have to restart my PC by forcefully shutting it off
now, for whatever reason, when it boots up, it boots as normal and seems to be running, but there's absolutely zero video output
Sounds like the GPU crashing
DDU might fix that
If not the next thing would be to reinstall windows
how am i supposed to do either of these things
?ddu
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
start with this @wet temple
this whole thing relies on being able to use the computer at all
i can't
there is zero visual output
oh it's not an occasional thing anymore, I see
yeah it's constant
I'd try reseating the GPU, maybe ram as well while you're in there
ah boy
this'll be fun
do i need to do anything specific or do i just give her a tug and plug it back in
i figured it out, time to see if it works
yeah i still got nothing, completely unresponsive
something else to note is that weirdly enough, my keyboard and mouse don't light up like they normally do when i turn it on
yeah that's a bit odd
might be a PSU issue but I don't really know
Does anyone jave a example of what a elgato confirmation email looks like
Hi guys, I have been looking around for graphic cards that work well with my cpu but that I can upgrade without changing for a while. My cpu is a Intel Core i7-11700K
What kind of budget for the GPU and what power supply do you have?
Anything
Please provide numbers. Otherwise I can recommend you a $50,000 GPU for example.
There we go. Also what size power supply?
Also, what is your location. US, CN, MX, etc as that will affect prices and where we look for the tech parts.
Asking this so others can better assist you.
sorry, ws out for a little bit
Rosewill ARC Series, ARC 650, 650W Non-Modular Power Supply
and US
You'd want a new psu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2QQydH
Part List - Radeon RX 7700 XT
Part List - Radeon RX 6800
And check if your case fits whatever gpu you go with
hey yall wondering if i could get some opinions on my upgrade. Coming from a 3060ti and using a 1440p165hz monitor, I recently picked up a 7900 xt for $1080 ($960 w/o tax) CAD and I was wondering if i'm going a little overkill and would be better off picking up a 7900 gre or 4070S? for ref I was looking at a 4070fe for $830 pre tax and I hadn't looked at the gre too much yet
It's not overkill, but if you're not afraid of a little overclocking the GRE is a better deal. If you're not planning to tweak it the 7900 XT would be great for 1440p.
This is my second ever build and I was trying to get an understanding of like undervolting but I don't know a ton about overclocking am definitely open to it
7900 gre is better value for sure, gpu ocing is very simple honestly
Cpu ocing and ram tuning can get complicated
id probably only do gpu cuz id be rocking a 7800x3d or a 7600
Yeah either of those would keep up with a 7900 gre or xt at 1440p
7600/7900 gre is a great mid(?) End pairing. Question mark bc imo 7900 gre is still pretty far up there
cool appreciate the guidance yall!
@odd siren Hye sorry for ping, should my new build get hynix ram? like we did last time
Yes
The kit in the list you have is hynix
I need to sell my csgo knife :|
Anyone know
If there’s a way to get around the waiting a week for changing primary email adress on Microsoft?
Reinstall windows?
Assuming you mean the email connected to accessing the settings of your Microsoft account, probably not. Security feature
Correct
can someone help i think theres a crypto miner on my pc
what is your pc doing that you're suspecting of it being infected with one?
when just sitting on desktop the gpu usage is at 30%
but when i open task manager it drops to 0
Try minimizing or tabbing out of the task manager while it's running
Or, better way. Grab hwinfo64 and run it, watch for gpu usage
yea i minimized task manager and it staying at 1%
i close it and it goes right backj up to 30
or sometimes 40
wait no
its still minimized and it went back up
then it was just at 50
then opend task manager instantly dropped to 1
is that better than bitdefender
Yeah, and it's better to have second opinion
yeah 11 but some are game hacks so i think they arent actually virus
I'd try wiping it all just in case
yeah i quarantined it all
now its like really bad spiking to like 90%
hooh boy
At this point I'd usually suggest reinstalling windows
Cleanest way to go around wiping it all
yea i have alot of stuff ireally dont want to have to redownload tho
Rescue disks might be what you wanna do
I think malwarebytes have that feature?
If not, use the one from kaspersky
It'll run scans without running windows
alrighjt ill try that after this full scan is done
Task manager is awful for GPU stats. What it's actually reading is likely the lowest idle state and the percentage of active time in that.
Run hwinfo sensors and see what it says your GPU core load and effective clock are. That'll tell you how much it's actually using.
Ok so it's using that percentage but it's not a high enough load to actually make the gpu do anything
200-400MHz is what most GPUs idle at
alright cool
A 3080 under load would reach 2000+
I'd guess that some background program is using a little of the idle time for animations or something. Apps like Razer Synapse and iCue do that.
i had it minimized and just opened it back up and it was at 1700
then dropped right back down the 3 or 400
The animation of it opening will give it a very short load
if i were to buy a antivirus once the free trial i have is up for malwarebytes and bitdefender which one would you reccomend?
Windows defender plus an ad blocker
I don't pay for AV any more, defender is actually good now
Not like on win 8
oh alright cool
yea i have nord vpn and i have the browser settings enabled
and i have ublock on
Perfect
only thing is ill be honest i do a fair bit of cheesing in games and get most of them from paid reputable sources but just to be sure what are some things i should look out for
any detections from windows defender or somethign
I don't know any specifics about tools like that but generally AV are good at figuring out when an app has more access than normal and it'll flag it.
yea most flags i see are like gamehack or dll injector
You can use an antivirus trial or month subscription to do a full system and power virus scan
But otherwise a full windows scan is pretty solid
Even if it's not a program that it specifically recognizes, the heuristics matching is good. Basically it says "hmm, this looks similar to this known virus, better flag it"
Statistically windows is something like, 99% reliable when they measured it a couple years ago, as long as it has internet access
Defender is useless without internet
One such set of tests shows 98.8% detection rate and few false positives. https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/malware-protection-test-march-2022/
But yes 60% offline
If the target is for an offline PC I'd use bitdefender
Cool!
When will there be an update on the gpu comparison sheet?
i dont think any of us know that, that chart sint ours
it is still very strong for rough estimations
Ask @daring minnow they made it
uhhh
its been a hot minute hasnt it
i havent had the motivation to redo it all
lol
Would you do it for a Scooby snack
@keen nacelle what would you say is the best value midrange-lower high range gpu right now? Friend is going to do a build and I haven't been keeping up with gpus much
7900gre
total budget including monitor is 1000-1500 USD, here's waht I have lined out so far
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nXRmZJ
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Radeon RX 6700 XT, SAMA ARGB-Q5 MicroATX Mini Tower
ah
I was thinking a bit lower spec tbh
diff definition of lower high end lol
yeah sorry
total budget?
could go higher than a 6700xt but that was my default value choice
1500ish USD
most intensive games played would probably be baldurs gate and elden ring. not a competitive gamer
wifi not needed?
I added a pcie card
Used could also maybe be an option but they're slightly iffy on it
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Radeon RX 7800 XT, Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower
thats new ^
thx
can also do this for a bit cheaper, or 6750xt https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ndFDsh
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Radeon RX 6800, Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower
so the answer is basically 'amd' lol
I don't think they need any of the nvidia features anyways
oh nvm
6900xt was $400 refurb
but oos
cheapest nvidia gpu id buy new is 4070 super imo
honestly not bad https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GeForce-Graphics-WINDFORCE-GV-N3080EAGLE-12GD/dp/B09QFBHJFX/ref=sr_1_31? amazon warehouse 3080 12gb for $460
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yeah I figured something like that
yeah feel free to dm
Used 3070ti for $300 seem decent?
anything past that feels a little overkill to me, other than 6800 which is $350 used
how much is a 3070/2080 ti/3060 ti, anything around there?
3070 ti for 300 isnt bad
id try for something with 12gb or more of vram if possible
Yeah I was thinking 10+
wait 3070Ti is only 8gb
uuuuugh
275 6700xt
Probably going for a 6700xt or 6750xt then.
You can get a normal 2080ti for like $250 or so
I saw a 249 the other day with that search
actually other than vram (1gb) 2080ti is better than 6700xt huh
Ye
oh an 6750xt as well
2080ti is my budget build card
It’ll last till I get my 4090
1080ti isn’t a bad choice tho either
Find those for $140-180
Ah
3070s are around the same
Just missing 3gb of vram
it would matter tbf
It do
it wouldn't*
my bad
8gb is perfectly fine
either way these two gpus perform the same
with the plus on 30 series being dlss
wait, 2080ti does have dlss too
also my bad
i personally still would prefer the newer gpu even if it has less vram, cuz in this context you don't lose anything much
It's definitely good right now (I have a 3060ti and love it) but I'd rather go with a bit more in a new build
at least 12gb+ is the standard for midrange and up these days
So I was recently going to purchase the 4090 on nvidia website because it showed it was back in stock the other day and was waiting till today and its back out of stock will the 4080 super run 4k well?
4080s should be 30% less powerful
If 4090 will get you 100fps on 4k, tjen 4080s around 70fps as an example... aside from that both can do 4k pretty well
I wonder how lucky you gotta be to get your hands on both of these cards
Or I guess maybe how good of a bot system you have
freakin
Apparently terrible for warranty claims if they have cooling problems tho
blue radeon ref
It glows blue like avatar when it heats up
damn
I love the avatar one as well
They claim 500 were made so yeah they probably can't send a replacement lol
Oop