graphics-cards

[odd siren]

You got it or want it

[foggy grotto]

got it

[odd siren]

Alr

[foggy grotto]

i meant want it

[odd siren]

Oh alr

Mouse keeb, need wifi?

[foggy grotto]

yes need wifi

mouse keeb dont really know

[odd siren]

Not really sorted out there?

[foggy grotto]

got logictech super light

[odd siren]

Oh I'd keep that

Keeb?

[foggy grotto]

ummm is like 60 percent got it from amazon

HK something

[odd siren]

HK hmm

You like it?

Sorry for all the questions just gauging what to put in the list here

[foggy grotto]

yeah

[odd siren]

Alr, we'll roll with it

[foggy grotto]

It nice

[odd siren]

Gimme a bit

@foggy grotto
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M24334
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-ARGB-PWM-Port/dp/B0892FLXDX
EDIT: fixed the mobo

Hub is needed

Wait for 4080 super if you can, it's only a couple weeks away

$999 price tag and kinda decent like XTX if you want slightly better RT if that's something that appeals to you

[foggy grotto]

ohh i go buy part on monday

[odd siren]

All good

XTX is decent still

X3D is a huge upgrade though over the 7600

XT to XTX too

Would say a good near 30% more performance almost here

Oh wait I'm stupid

Wait @foggy grotto

I put the wrong motherboard

LMAO

It would've been this tiny thing in a huge case

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M24334 AND
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-ARGB-PWM-Port/dp/B0892FLXDX
OR
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wvhLfy ONLY

My bad

I started with one idea finished with another

[odd siren]

@solid glacier i found someone with a similar issue. Uninstall opera gx and tell me if it's better

[solid glacier]

What browser should I use then

Google chrome eats my ram lmao

[odd siren]

Try anything else see if it's better

It was a common app the two of you have

I'm getting them to switch too

[hot bough]

I think you need more ram then haha.

Google only uses at most 4-5GB from my experience with about 20 tabs open.

[solid glacier]

ight i had google chrome on my old pc bt i had the same problems butr ill try this out

[junior locust]

@solid glacier oh you had your system freeze up when watching video on Opera GX too?

I'm that other sucker Felix mentioned

It's so annoying

[solid glacier]

nah my system hasnt freezed up once xD im just trying to fix my smoothnes sisuses

[junior locust]

Ah

Well for me it completely freezes up

Can't even bring up Task manager

Or the taskbar

Dammit

So ye

It's like Windows Explorer bricks itself and I need to like
Use the reset switch on the case to fix it

[solid glacier]

yea i dont got that problem xD

[solid glacier]

yea that didnt help felix im gonna try, getitng a new monitor

[odd siren]

Sadge

[rocky mortar]

I’m about to sell my old pc for what it’s got left, it’s got a 1660 super, stock omen mb and cpu cooler, 5600g, 2x8 ram for $500

Is that a fair price

[vital oriole]

no

that's on the too much side tbh

[rocky mortar]

Oh tbh that’s what i was hoping for bc i have a buyer

[vital oriole]

but if you have a buyer

well then let them buy at that

your profit, their loss

[rocky mortar]

All the guy needs is an ssd then its a full pc

[vital oriole]

it's not illegal to profit, i was just saying that it might not get much interest at $500

[rocky mortar]

He wants to play fortnite so hopefully it’ll be good enough to at least be good for a little while, when i tried to play it wasn’t great

He said he bought some ryzen 7 and a 3060 so i kinda feel bad selling this for $500 but money is money

[raven wharf]

@odd siren

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-fist-pump-when-jam-comes-on-gif-11693652

[solid glacier]

why is my launchers in 32 bit? instead of 64 bnit like my windows..?

[vital oriole]

launchers made in 32 bit i guess

it doesn't matter tho

launchers are small programs anyway

[odd siren]

Eyyy

[livid idol]

32 and 64 bit only affects how much memory a program (or operating system) is able to use. You could use a 64 bit launcher, but why would a launcher need up to 2TB of RAM? 3.5GB is plenty, so 32 bit is used.

[solid glacier]

yea im gonna return my pc parts and etc gonna buy a ps5 lol im done with these issues

[spare relic]

Inb4 ps5 software is 32 bit

[vital oriole]

why is that even an issue that launchers are 32 bit

they don't need over 4 gigs of ram

[velvet grail]

why do some people set the minimum core freq 100mhz below the maximum freq when overclocking/undervolting rx 6000 series cards? 6950xt specifically

is it necessary?

in amd adrenalin

[lone pond]

@livid idol the gpu is here :)

[raven wharf]

@odd siren my 6950 should be here by the end of the week I’m so excited lol

[solid glacier]

Pc parts have been shipped and returned, my pc days are over maybe I’ll try another build in the far future, thanks for helping me Felix, and everyone else, appreciate the efforts!❤️

[odd siren]

Damn

Sadgeness

[keen nacelle]

Open to giving a pre built a shot?

[odd siren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL1l4jmxLa8&ab_channel=GamersNexus

[solid glacier]

Nah prolly not, gonna just order a ps5

[junior locust]

Prebuilts are a great start

besides, consoles are gonna age very meh

[keen nacelle]

New gen consoles dropping this year, no?

[heady turtle]

Yipee

Consoles value is great either way tbh but also at least to me, controller is icky

[odd siren]

I'll icky u in a minute

[heady turtle]

Sus

[odd siren]

nuh uh

[heady turtle]

This just makes the 4070 at 550 absolutely pointless, in what world is another 50$ not worth like a 15% avg uplift (HUB)

[odd siren]

the 4070 wasn't even really worth it at 500 bro

470 or less and we're talking

[keen nacelle]

I'm hoping it drops with 4070 super launch

Used 3080 pricing might drop too

[odd siren]

it'll drop whether nvidia or retailers want it to or not

7700xt held up because it still sells

no other reason, and yes it's trash

like 4060 ti

[keen nacelle]

Yeah 7700xt should've been 375-400

[heady turtle]

Oh ik but it's even more funy

[random walrus]

I think there's a refresh this year and then new consoles in 2025/6

[solid glacier]

what test should i run on 3d mark spy test

[odd siren]

??

[solid glacier]

for my brother

pc

[solid glacier]

Bro I should have did a test on my pc… do I go rush to the post office to get my parts before they go and give it another shot😭

[odd siren]

wut?

I mean it's purely up to you

[livid idol]

If you already gave the parts to the post office they can't give them back

[odd siren]

if the pc is going to your brother I'm curious if he tries it and ends up being perfectly fine

which would answer questions in a roundabout way

[solid glacier]

My buddy works there so he’ll let me

[livid idol]

You would ask your friend to break the law for you?

Besides that requires him to dig through a giant container filled with hundreds of packages

[solid glacier]

True lol

[solid glacier]

Noo I mean I gave the packages to him to turn in lol

Sorry I’m on 2 hours of sleep

[livid idol]

Oh I assumed you meant it was at the post office already when you said "do I go rush to the post office" but if it's not in custody of the post office branch yet then you can get it

[solid glacier]

nvm i did to a test last week on my pc

[solid glacier]

Well I mean this doesn’t look good lol

@odd siren

[raven wharf]

nvidia providing an actual decent improvement

over the regular 4070

[heady turtle]

what it should have been in the first place for 600

[odd siren]

If it's over like, 96% it's a pass

[solid glacier]

wthh

[odd siren]

Looks fine

First half doesn't count cos it's a demo

[raven wharf]

[livid idol]

The 4070 super takes it's place as the best value 40 series card when you look at cost per frame. It still loses to the 7800 XT in that metric, but by a margin that might be acceptable if you really want those extra Nvidia features.

[solid glacier]

got my pc back... i might buy a 4090 and see how that performs

[heady turtle]

I wouldn't recommend buying a 4090 atm they're going for about 2k

[wheat plover]

4060 dual OC Edition. Save for 4090 or wait it out? Trying to prime for 4K/8K. Also running a i7-13700f cpu/32gb/600W psu to go with this. Rn focusing on upgrading Ram/psu

[heady turtle]

Which is 400 over msrp

[heady turtle]

Your ram is fine, don't waste your money upgrading it, assuming you don't need more for rendering or something for example

[wheat plover]

4060 been playing warzone 250 fps easily 1440

I just see people getting 13k fps on fort and wonder how i can get that lol

[heady turtle]

That's just not a thing

Engines aren't built to go that high

[wheat plover]

Thats what i thought lmao

Idk what im seeing anymore got me sweating

[heady turtle]

Yeah wait for the budget for the gpu you want

That amount of fps would be pointless anyway

[wheat plover]

Somebody selling a 4080 near me for $400

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/alert-scam-sheep-zombie-lies-gif-21519331

[wheat plover]

Might just pull the trigger on that

[heady turtle]

That's a very suspicious price

[wheat plover]

Well $485

But imma talk him down

[heady turtle]

Still sus

[wheat plover]

Idk

My 4060 going for like $320

Practically a new series s console

[vital oriole]

4080 for 485 is very suspicious

[heady turtle]

Yeah brand new, a 4080 retails for about 1200$

[wheat plover]

Oh damn

[heady turtle]

A little less sometimes but

[vital oriole]

used they're probably like 800 or so rn

[heady turtle]

Maybe 700

[wheat plover]

Yea this one looks pretty crispy

Wonder why its so cheap

[vital oriole]

it definitely is a scam

[heady turtle]

No card, wrong card or broke card most likely

[wheat plover]

I do see someone selling a 4070 for $700 firm. That sound right?

[heady turtle]

HAHAHAHHA

What are they smoking

I'll have some

[wheat plover]

Lmao

[heady turtle]

That's 100$ above original msrp

[wheat plover]

Yikes

[heady turtle]

And 150$ above it now

Because since 4070 super came out 4070 dropped to 550

[wheat plover]

Gigabyte aorus geforce rtx 4080 16gb master $498 is the listing

Dude also has 3090 founders edition 24gb for $425 same dude with 4080

[vital oriole]

pretty sus

[wheat plover]

Thats why i feel like the 4090 gotta be more worth it if people already selling they 4080

[vital oriole]

if they're selling it's gonna be 700 at absolute min

and for the reason being that 4080 super is coming out

at the same msrp as 4080

[wheat plover]

Sheesh yea thats crazy

Im getting 53 fps in warzone on a 940M

[livid idol]

$200 drop in MSRP. Original 4080 was $1200, Super is $1000 because nvidia realized the 4080 wasn't selling too well when the XTX beat it for $300 less.

[vital oriole]

yeah but the adjusted msrp is easily found

[livid idol]

For now. They're going to stop making 4080s and replace it with the Super.

(Which it should have been like that in the first place, both pricing and specs)

[vital oriole]

ye

at least nvidia is doing something tbf

thanks to amd

[odd siren]

You know what I hate about this

People will remember super

Not the originals

[vital oriole]

lmao yeah

[odd siren]

And how poorly priced they were

[vital oriole]

people will forget the OGs

and will say nvidia did no wrong

[odd siren]

At least 4060ti may be immortalised this point as the most potent flammable trash from nv in years

[livid idol]

40 series is by and large forgettable as it is. It's like the 600 series all over again.

[vital oriole]

lmao

4060 ti super wen

cancel 4070

[odd siren]

True

Why do you think I've been rooting for rdna 3 until now

So much cool stuff happening to bring that side up to par

[vital oriole]

rdna 3 poked at nvidia enough for them to actually move

but now, the cycle repeats

amd will have to do some price drops to make rdna 3 compelling

[keen nacelle]

1630?

I think 1630 takes the cake for that one tbh

Wasn't the cheapest like $170 and obviously worse than a 1650 and launched well after 30 series did

[heady turtle]

Xtx has actually been hovering at around 970 lowest last i checked btw :(

[vital oriole]

yeeeah

that's the problem rn

[livid idol]

Yeah it bounced back up a bit once it hit bottom

[vital oriole]

sadgeness

[keen nacelle]

7900xt is at $710 rn, which is pretty decent. Not really worth $110 over a 4070s though, unless you need the vram

[maiden thistle]

Would there be a compatibility issue between https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/p/memory/cmh32gx5m2b6000c36w/vengeance-rgb-32gb-2x16gb-ddr5-dram-6000mt-s-cl36-memory-kit-white-cmh32gx5m2b6000c36w and https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650-AORUS-ELITE-AX-ICE

DRAM light is red

tried all slots

[livid idol]

No compatibility issue, that light more often means you need to update your bios to support the CPU on a new build.

[maiden thistle]

how do you update BIOS if it wont boot

[livid idol]

You have Q flash plus so all you need is the bios update file saved to a USB drive

It'll update even if you didn't have the CPU or memory in

The Q flash port is marked. It's one of the red ports on the back.

[maiden thistle]

which file do I move to USB?

(Thank you so much btw)

[livid idol]

The first one

That ends in F21a

It'll be renamed to GIGABYTE.bin

[maiden thistle]

I have to rename it to that or it should auto rename?

Nvm I have to rename

[livid idol]

You'll need to rename it

[maiden thistle]

Looking at your instructions

What do I do when the flashing stops

light still on

[keen nacelle]

I think that means the flash is done, but not certain

[livid idol]

It usually takes 5-10 minutes and it will flash the light while flashing the bios. When it stops flashing, it's done.

Occasionally it takes a few tries to get it to take the update, and other times you might need to try another USB.

[maiden thistle]

and how will I know if it worked

Is there a way to access the bios even though the DRAM light is on

[heady turtle]

Nope but it might boot lol

[maiden thistle]

Yeah idk, not getting past the red light. Any ideas 🤣

[livid idol]

Make sure you're in the correct USB port, maybe try a different USB drive

[keen nacelle]

Idk if this was mentioned yet, but make sure ram is in the right slots and is fully slotted in

[heady turtle]

Reseat your ram and clear cmos

[maiden thistle]

Put it in USB drive marked "BIOS", tried all RAM slots (although https://gzhls.at/blob/ldb/1/7/2/c/52dbded3268f642f45ee5cbe082cd9cbf84a.pdf indicates 2nd and 4th slots from CPU), idk

[livid idol]

It's usually slots 2 and 4 yeah

[solid glacier]

okay tried my pc with a new monitor and still same issues xD gonna return my parts now actually

[keen nacelle]

Wb a different gpu?

Or iirc you have an 7000 series cpu, try it without the gpu

[solid glacier]

nah only got 1 cpu and gpu

so found when i play my games in window full screwen or borderless my games are back to being smooth,,?

compared to when playing full screen it isnt

[solid glacier]

Yea i got the ryzen 7 7800x3d

[random walrus]

You only have 1 monitor right? Sometimes mixed refresh monitors can do weird things

[solid glacier]

Yea only got 1

[solid glacier]

Someone’s willing to give me 1800 for my pc rn

[keen nacelle]

How much you spend on it?

[solid glacier]

2k lmao

[spare relic]

200 dollar loss

Not so bad

[solid glacier]

For a month old pc

?

not even actually it will be next week

[spare relic]

Lol month old

I mean prices fluctuate a lot from what I can tell

I'm guessing you're not looking to sell so soon?

[solid glacier]

eh ill be down to take the 18

[spare relic]

It would be preferable to sell at a profit with such a short turnaround

[livid idol]

The parts depreciate from the moment they arrive at your door, doubly so once the boxes are opened

[spare relic]

Real

[livid idol]

That said with the "convenience fee" you should be able to break even if you don't mind waiting

[solid glacier]

yea i dont mind

[spare relic]

Convenience fee?

[livid idol]

Build fee you might call it

[spare relic]

As in the conveniencevpf it being assembled and ready

Ah

[solid glacier]

would this be a monitor issue

[vital oriole]

nope

it's windows or game issue

[solid glacier]

so on amd software i had amd freesync on right
but when i went to the games
the free sync said "amd optimized" so i changed it to match the monitor which is "on" and i installed riva turner to 237 and my games are runningsmooth

[vital oriole]

i would usually blame it on the game

[solid glacier]

every game ran like crapo

lol

[vital oriole]

or windows handling fullscreen badly

[solid glacier]

mhm

[random walrus]

seeing a faint thin green outline on some edges in movement on my monitor

both on youtube videos and in game

maybe a driver thing idk

[keen nacelle]

That could be a vram chip going, id check drivers and the cable you're using

[random walrus]

Uhoh

[keen nacelle]

I wouldnt immediately worry, but its not something I'd ignore

[random walrus]

It's not bad but wouldn't want it to get worse

[keen nacelle]

Try underclocking your vram too and see if that helps at all

I'd check other two first tho

[random walrus]

Pretty sure its ocd rn so yeah I'll turn that down if needed

[keen nacelle]

What's the oc and what gpu? 7800xt iirc?

[random walrus]

3060ti

[keen nacelle]

Ah alr

I've been running a 75% pl with a +150 core and +850mhz on my 3060 ti dailied for about a month and it's been fine

[random walrus]

Have +600 mem cause all the undervolting guides said to boost it

[keen nacelle]

My gpu just needs a repaste and I don't want to deal with it lol

[random walrus]

Mine is a little 2 fan EVGA card stuffed in a very small and full case lol

[keen nacelle]

Yeah that's easily stable on a 3060 ti, but try putting it back to 0 and see if the issue goes away

[random walrus]

The undervolt does wonders for temps though

[keen nacelle]

What uv you doing?

Also what're you using to uv it? (Asking for myself lol, not pertaining to the issue)

[random walrus]

Afterburner

[keen nacelle]

I forgot afterburner has voltage control

[random walrus]

Yeah I did the thing where you pull up the left side of the voltage curve

[keen nacelle]

Ima look into that for myself, with the settings above and 65% fans it's getting up to 75c in games

[random walrus]

Not sure the technical name

[keen nacelle]

With stock settings it was hitting in the 80s

[random walrus]

Mine sits around 72c, a bit higher if the CPU is chugging as well

At least -5c from before the uv tho

Not at 65% fan limit tho

Probably closer to 80-85%

Uhh

Oh compression is gonna fk that

[livid idol]

I've been using Precision X1 but only because that used to be the only way to control rgb on the FE cards. It's basically the same functions as afterburner.

[random walrus]

I've heard somewhere it can actually be better than afterburner

[livid idol]

In some cases

[random walrus]

Don't remember how

[random walrus]

Driver update seems to have fixed it

Kinda weird cause the update released yesterday, and before that I was on the latest one

[teal cairn]

Anyone know good guide for oc for 4070. I know absolutely nothing about oc for that card

Just want a stable oc, don't need every drop of performance

[keen nacelle]

An easily stable oc should be like +650 on ram and +115 on core, but thats a fairly conservative oc

You could try +150 +850, play some games and see if you run into any issues

If you do dial it back a bit

If you dont, you can either leave it as is, or you can try upping it a bit

You can use a benchmark, 3dmark timespy to test this, but an overclock that's stable for a benchmark isn't always stable in games

I could do +195 on core and +1050 on vram in timespy, but that immediately caused crashes in any game I tried to play

[teal cairn]

Ty!!!

[livid idol]

Undervolting can help with temps at higher clocks but that's a bit more complicated

[keen nacelle]

And an overclock thats stable for one game might not be stable with another

It's very odd

[teal cairn]

Yeah I had a 3060ti previously and did the undervolt curve stuff

[keen nacelle]

Overwatch is surprisingly good for testing an oc

[teal cairn]

Is true, just nobody likes it anymore 😔

[keen nacelle]

My friend recently got me to start playing

God am I ass

Lmao

[teal cairn]

It's a lot of fun, I started playing in 2017 and I never really played competitive till ow2. So I know my way around.

My urge to play roadhog on gibraltar, don't temp me

[teal cairn]

It's like every other game

Just shoot em

[livid idol]

I'm the guy that gets 12 kills with mercy and still gets top healer lol

[teal cairn]

Nah battle mercy with her ult is viable tbf in lower ranks. I have a clip from ow1 when I team wiped a 2v6

This was during double shield btw

[livid idol]

The salt from other players is hilarious though, especially the other team. "Mercy is for healing you should only be doing that" says the guy I killed 6 times

[teal cairn]

I don't play mercy if I play now. Lucio/bap is my support

[teal cairn]

Mercy role is not healing

She does two things really well compared to every other hero

First is SUPPORT as damage boost is insane

And second is surviving

The more u survive the better your overall number output and that is why her healing and damage boost numbers are so valuable

Not bc u sit and hold left click, it bothers me when new players complain like that

Sorry if I went on a rant 😆

[livid idol]

I can tell you're passionate about it lol

[burnt bear]

Hey guys I have a Zotac 4060 TI 16GB (I know it's an overpriced card but got a good deal) I've already bought an ATX motherboard and I'm looking at getting an ATX case tomorrow however, I'm concerned that the bracket for this card is too small to fit in an atx case?

I've had a google but can't see much

Do you guys think it'll fit?

[keen nacelle]

The gpu will fit in basically any atx case

Just outta curiosity did you get the gpu from zotac open box?

[burnt bear]

Oh cool, for some reason the bracket looks tiny to me

[keen nacelle]

I think they had it for like $340 or so

[burnt bear]

No brand new sealed

[keen nacelle]

Do you want some recommendations for cases?

Ah how much was it?

[burnt bear]

that would be perfect

300 pound

[keen nacelle]

Oh nice

[burnt bear]

they reail here for 439 pounds

*retail

[keen nacelle]

UK then I'm assuming? (Asking because prices vary and it'll affect what cases I recommend)

Yeah 300 gpb isn't bad for it

[burnt bear]

Yeah UK

[keen nacelle]

Especially if you're doing more than just gaming

[burnt bear]

A bit of 3d rendering but nothing too intensive!

and the bracket looks tiny to me for some reason, but it's been a good few years since I've changed a GPU

[keen nacelle]

Anything specific you're looking for in a case?

Like do you want a glass side panel, the front to be glass, black, white, rgb, etc

[burnt bear]

Not really, nothing to RGB-y

[keen nacelle]

And what price area were you looking for? Just cheap and good airflow?

[burnt bear]

I don't like RGB stuff, the PC lives under a desk anyway lmao

good airflow, price isn't much of an issue, glass panel is nice but not required

[keen nacelle]

Cool, and what mobo did you get? Just so I can make sure it fits

[burnt bear]

MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI

[keen nacelle]

Kk, I'll link some options for you to take a look at

[burnt bear]

Thank you, you're a star

[keen nacelle]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HRH7YJ/montech-x3-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-x3-mesh-black
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/NcRwrH/corsair-3000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011251-ww
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/gWFbt6/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-07

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/WvXJ7P/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-01
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/jD92FT/fractal-design-focus-2-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-03

[burnt bear]

Thank you so much, I'll have a browse at these and let you know what I've decided on

[keen nacelle]

Alright those are the ones I'd recommend in the 50-75 pound range, there's some more too but they seem to be the best value

Oh and one more focus 2 variant, I think it looks pretty nice
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/6bbTwP/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-02

[burnt bear]

So will I definitely need a ATX mid case?

or could it fit in a full size atx

nvm ignore that

[burnt bear]

Looking on this case you've linked

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/fractal-focus-2-rgb-black-mid-tower-chassis-w-tempered-glass-window-2x-140mm-rgb-fans-usb-30-atx-mat?utm_source=pc part picker&utm_medium=referral

I'm going to a physical store tomorrow and they have it in stock

Can I be super cheeky and ask if you can check if the PSU will fit?

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-msi-mag-a750gl-fully-modular-pcie-50-80plus-gold-single-rail-pcie-50-62a-120mm-fan-atx-30-psu

[keen nacelle]

Yep, tho I think I'd make a difference psu choice

One sec

[burnt bear]

how come?

[keen nacelle]

This is just as good for a decent bit less
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/crhv6h/nzxt-c750-2023-750-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-pa-7b2bb-us

Wait no

That's the bad nzxt c

Ignore that one

[burnt bear]

I like the other one as it's modular

[keen nacelle]

For a 750 the agl is a solid choice, but what gpu are you using?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/GdwmP6/corsair-rm650-2023-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020280-na

This is A tier modular and among the best of the best for psus

Otherwise the agl seems to be the next best choice

[burnt bear]

Zotac 4060 TI 16GB

[keen nacelle]

Oh right yeah

The 650 is plenty for you, the 750 does have a bit more upgradability though, so up to you

[hasty sphinx]

did a repaste on the old rx580. I'd say I did it perfect 😛

[spare relic]

Nice

[dense cliff]

If I uninstall AMD adrenalin software will it also uninstall my graphics card drivers?

[livid idol]

Only if you tell the uninstaller to do so

[lilac osprey]

What are all the OC editions of various manufacturer cards for NVidia? How far along should I follow them until I should just get the next tier card?

[spare relic]

I treat OC edition as literally just the same card unless it has something like a better heatsink

You can just get the same exact overclock otherwise with the regular

It's marginal factory overclocks anyways

[keen nacelle]

The oc edition doesn't mean anything like maniac said

Do not pay more for it, it's normally a very small offset like +50 or +100mhz on vram

[spare relic]

If it's the same price or cheaper go for it

[keen nacelle]

All models of a gpu, unless it has multiple versions like the 6900 had the xtxh chip, will perform within 1-2% of eachother

[spare relic]

As long as prices on said GPUs aren't bad at least

[odd siren]

It's almost literally the factory preprogramming 5 minutes of clicking into afterburner in exchange for probably paying more. Same card underneath, virtually same performance

Paying for "oc" isn't worth it. Once upon a time it was

[lilac osprey]

Shameful

[solid glacier]

Hey wahts the program called for ram cleaning?

ram cleaner?

[odd siren]

Do you need to clean ram?

How many gb have you got

[solid glacier]

32

played a game for over a hour and it started getting bad fps

[odd siren]

Huh

Ok

Worth a try

[solid glacier]

32gb

i have

[odd siren]

Ye

Alr

We have a ram cleaner in #windows-ios

Or you can try something else, like say, razer cortex comes to mind, uhh

[solid glacier]

my cpu hit like 75

is that bad

feel like that is hot

[odd siren]

Nah

Mine goes over that

It's x3d too

[solid glacier]

oh ight

bet

bought palworld

pretty fun game nglk

[odd siren]

I'm not too privy to a good ram cleaner apart from rawrs in the windows channel

It's lightweight

Cortex is another but you get the razer extras involved

[solid glacier]

dang

Hey is ther a way to check if my gpu is fully slotted in correctly?

gpuz right

[spare relic]

?

[solid glacier]

like where it shows 16 pcie out of 16

i remember when i installed my 6900xt on my last pc i had gpu z pulled up and somoene said my gpu wanst fully slotted in

[spare relic]

Lol I mean a GPU might be in x8 mode because it doesn't need x16

[solid glacier]

nah thats not what i mean

[solid glacier]

how do i check if its x8 mode

[spare relic]

Yeah GPUZ or HWiNFO should both have that detail

[solid glacier]

sensors only

?

[spare relic]

Whichever

I leave both unchecked

[solid glacier]

ight im on itwhere do i cehck

[spare relic]

Ah summary is where it's at xd sorry

But you can get to that through the system tray

[spare relic]

Yep is in x16

[solid glacier]

cool so its fully slotted into the pcie slot

[spare relic]

Usually a lower end GPU will use x8, and some are even designed with some of the pcie pins missing as they're unnecessary

Or instead certain cards have like a half length/x8 so if a motherboard has an x8 slot you can put it in there

[solid glacier]

hh

oh

so is there a way to find out if my gpu is fully into the lsot

also quesiton

on my monitor theres like a long rectangle that pops up white for mili sec its not fully white but it pops up n the monitor itself

@odd siren

is that a dp issue

or

its at the very end of the video

[heady turtle]

Looks more like bad discord/gpu driver install since discord is gpu accelerated

[vital oriole]

run a ddu

[odd siren]

I'd run ddu

If it's still there then monitor related

[solid glacier]

i switched dp cables and the white box is gone

[solid glacier]

it doenst just show up on discord lol

Gonna sell this pc and go for a Nicola build

Nvidia

Not@gonna mess with AMD anymore

[heady turtle]

Did you ddu first?

[solid glacier]

yea

i cahnged dp cables and it fixed my problem

[heady turtle]

Ah fair enough then

Probably a faulty cable

[solid glacier]

whats a good 2k build for nvidia

[solid glacier]

dang the 7900xtx is down to 750$

[heady turtle]

Wait for 4080 super

[solid glacier]

prolly gonna get that if i can get my ahnds on one

i need a 800$ build for my brother

This a deal??

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[odd siren]

Sadgeness

[lilac osprey]

Why does the RTX 3060 have 12 gb ram, while the rtx 3070 and 3080 have 8 and 10?

[keen nacelle]

Because nvidia

Mor vram = betr

[lilac osprey]

I can't tell if you're being facetious

[keen nacelle]

Basically the Bus size of a card affects the gpus bandwidth, there's 128bit, 192bit, and 256 bit I believe

And then vram modules are 1gb or 2gb, and a certain amount fit depending on the bus size

[lilac osprey]

That didn't stop them from slapping 16gb onto the 4060 ti 😩

[keen nacelle]

With the 3060, it was either 6gb or 12gb

4060 ti can't be 12gb because of the bus size, either 8gb or 16, or both

3080 it was either 10 or 20, though the 3080 12gb I believe had a diff bus size (3080 12gb, 3080 ti, 3090 and 3090 ti prolly all had the same bus size)

[lilac osprey]

Oh, you didn't mean that the bus had to be large enough for higher vram

[keen nacelle]

?

[wicked hound]

Basically each VRAM IC takes 32bits and come in 1GB or 2GB. So with a 192bit bus that'd be 6 ICs. Thus 6 1GB/2GB ICs for either 6GB or 12GB VRAM total.

[keen nacelle]

^^ ty hay I didn't know the exact numbers

[lilac osprey]

You meant certain multiples of bus size only support certain multiples of vram

[keen nacelle]

Yes

Hay explained it perfectly

And the biggest thing is that more vram doesn't boost a gpus performance

[lilac osprey]

What I was trying to ask is why the numbers on the heigher tier cards have to be lower

Oh

[keen nacelle]

A gpus performance, settings, game engine, resolution, etc determine how much vram it uses before it can't perform any better

Or it could hit its vram limit before a performance limit

[lilac osprey]

It still seems like a scam

[keen nacelle]

It's just another type of bottleneck kind of

Eh

Not exactly

Just people think more vram = better

Which is very much not true

More vram can be better, but if a gpu can't use it all its just pointless

Most of the time gaming 3060 wont

[lilac osprey]

Why can't we just stick with 8gb forever, then?

[wicked hound]

This combined with marketing

[lilac osprey]

Looks like it would be nice if they always went for the rightmost number

[wicked hound]

If 3070 went 16GB then it'd be over 3080Ti at 12GB, unless it went 24GB which hit 3090

Then 3090 would become useless cuz 24GB 3080Ti.

[keen nacelle]

Eh, games are starting to use more than 8gb

[lilac osprey]

So VRAM does matter?

[keen nacelle]

12gb should be the standard going forwards, but a 3060 just isn't good enough to utilize 12gb most of the time

[lilac osprey]

Like the 4060 ti isn't good enough to utilize 16gb most of the time?

[keen nacelle]

100%

12gb would be nice on it

4070, 4070s, and 4070 ti 12gb is fitting

[lilac osprey]

So why couldn't they put a 192 bit bus on the 4060 ti?

[keen nacelle]

Because nvidia

[lilac osprey]

Full circle

[keen nacelle]

Yep

[wicked hound]

nGreedAi

[keen nacelle]

Nvidia made some very weird decisions this gen

[lilac osprey]

This is what I didn't know I was asking

[keen nacelle]

4060 is a 3060 with less vram and 40 series features

4060 ti is a 3060 ti with 40 series features

4070 is the lowest gpu that's actually an improvement

[lilac osprey]

That's the impression I've gotten

[keen nacelle]

You either go 4070+ from nvidia right now, or go amd

[wicked hound]

but... but.... How could you possibly forget about the power efficiency tho

[keen nacelle]

Or used

[keen nacelle]

Ooh true 3060 super power hungry /s

[lilac osprey]

I've seen people say the 4070 is the best value of the 40s

[keen nacelle]

Eh

Not as true anymore with the super refresh

4070 ti super and 4080 super are coming out at $800 and $1000 on I think the 26th

[lilac osprey]

I've seen people say the 4070 Super is the best value of the 40 Supers

[keen nacelle]

Nah 4070 super isn't incredible value, but its still decent

I thought the same but its about 10% better than 7800xt while still $100 more

[wicked hound]

I mean yes, but rn we are talking about value within Nvidia

[keen nacelle]

7900xt has gone as low $710, but 4070s/4070 ti super are better value I believe

[keen nacelle]

Yeah fair

6800xt open box is $430 which is not far behind 4070 super

[solid glacier]

Anyone know a website that sends invoices

PayPal invoice is being dumb

[solid glacier]

anyone got a good list ffor a 4070 super

for my gf

[pallid nova]

hi, i got offered a brand new 3090 from my friend for 1300 CAD... is that a good price? (ive taken a look at the product already so it is brand new)

well, to put into context, im planning on upgrading from a 1660 and was planning on getting a 4070 super (around 850 cad)

[keen nacelle]

Are you gaming?

[pallid nova]

yes

both gaming and working

[keen nacelle]

What work?

Is it vram focused?

[pallid nova]

im a law student so no

[keen nacelle]

Then 4070 super, 4070 ti, 4070 ti super, and 4080 super are all much better value then

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Hc7scf/asus-dual-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-dual-rtx4070s-o12g

4080 super is going to be launching at 1000 usd, id imagine it around 1400 cad, and far better than a 3090

4070 ti already slightly beats the 3090

[wicked hound]

What professional programs are you going to be using that use the GPU?

[pallid nova]

alright. thanks... i looked at userbenchmark but i wanted a second opinion

[keen nacelle]

Ubm is a big nono

?ubm

[neat venture]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[keen nacelle]

Passmark gpu comparison is much more accurate

Ubm is incredibly biased and just plain wrong

[pallid nova]

ooo.

well now i know 💀

i didnt know before lol. ive always preferred to ask pc communities instead

[keen nacelle]

Ye lol, if you want a rough idea 4070 super lil bit worse than 3090, 7800xt bit better than 3080 10gb, 7900xt bit better than 3090, same with 4070 ti

Then 4070 ti super<4080<xtx<4080 super

[pallid nova]

so 4070 just has the best value?

[keen nacelle]

7800xt best value atm, but from nvidia 4070, 4070 super, 4070 ti super, and 4080 super are all good value

[wicked hound]

Also no real need to go Nvidia if you dont need their (mostly professional) featuresets

[vital oriole]

4070 isn't good value as of rn

[ivory herald]

(Maybe open box), but keep seeing a few for a decent $430ish

[lilac osprey]

The 4080 has better performance than the 4080 Super?

Am I reading this backwards?

[livid idol]

🙃
I think bacca mixed up greater than/less than

[keen nacelle]

Mb lmao

I'm a lil uhh... let's go with tired

[solid glacier]

okay so riva worked for a few days now my pc feels not smooth again

[spare relic]

Isn't this how greater than/less than symbol is supposed to be used

[keen nacelle]

I fixed it

[spare relic]

Oh lol

[livid idol]

The trick to remembering it that I was taught is the mouth wants to bite the bigger one

[spare relic]

👍

Alligator is hungry

Deer is less hungry

[lilac osprey]

So, the 4080 still costs more than the 4080 Super and 4070 ti Super, huh?

[spare relic]

12600KF cost more than the 12600K

Prices are always going stupid mode on computer parts

[odd siren]

And worse yes

More than XTX too for worse overall

[lilac osprey]

Market Jesus has forsaken us

[odd siren]

I rarely recommended 40 series because of the upcharge

Just wasn't worth it no matter how stubborn some people were

[lilac osprey]

This is why EVGA left

[odd siren]

Yeah and now we have asus matrix instead of kingpin and matrix sucks

[spare relic]

970s are probably gonna be my last Nvidia cards for life

[raven wharf]

i want them to make amd cards

hell even intel

itd just be cool to have them back in the market

[lime kelp]

Overview
Operating system: Windows 11
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz 6/12
Motherboard: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE
RAM: Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400 C16 4x4GB 16 GB
Hard disk1: PNY CS2140 500GB SSD (465.8 GB/Fixed hard disk media)
Graphics card1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (4 GB)

Looking to upgrade this, anyone have any budget suggestions, I want to run better games and high settings

[livid idol]

What's the budget and what kind of games do you play the most?

[lime kelp]

@livid idol So newer games, ones comming out this year some say the reccmmended is RTX 2070, but i would like all the newer type goodies like raytracing

RTX 2070 SUPER

But just any advise onto what you would recommend would help.

[keen nacelle]

2070/2070 super are decent around $120-150

I'd look for anything from 2070+ and 3060 ti from nvidia, 3060 and 3050 are just poor value

[fading glacier]

without a number on your budget is hard to suggest you something

[keen nacelle]

5820k is also not the best

I3-8100 has better single core

It's about on par with 1000 series ryzen, which is kinda dismal. Anything over a 2070 I would recommend an upgrade

[lime kelp]

300$

[keen nacelle]

You have two options

Either buy a gpu that won't be limited that much or at all by your current cpu, id guess around 100-150, or you can spend more and get a better gpu that will be limited, and try to upgrade your cpu soon

[lime kelp]

@keen nacelleSorry I dont have too much research into the type of GPU, would you know one off hand?

@keen nacelleCould you put together some good compatiable CPU and GPU with this Motherboad and PSU?

[livid idol]

There's no worthwhile CPU upgrade for you without changing the motherboard too

You could probably fit a 12100 with a B660 board and a new GPU into a $300 budget if you don't mind used parts

Maybe a Ryzen 5600 with a B450

The Internet here is slow as molasses so I can't help much more than that right now

[keen nacelle]

I guess something along these lines
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bfv9Fs

Also I don't know what psu you have

For cpu, anything following: 8th gen i7 or newer, 9th gen i5 or newer, any 3000 series 3300x+, 2700x, any 5000 series, any i3 12th gen or newer

For mobo, likely $50-60 for a decent used mobo

[lime kelp]

Parts List says 150 for that video card

[keen nacelle]

Gpu, anything 2060 super+, any 6000 series 6600+, any 30 series 3060 12gb+

[lime kelp]

I dont see that price

[keen nacelle]

Yes, that's all used pricing

[lime kelp]

ahh i see

[keen nacelle]

And estimates

I'd look for anything of what I named above used, find the best deals you can

Oh for ram, just the cheapest 16gb-32gb 3200c16 or 3600c18 kit

[lime kelp]

Ok thanks

@keen nacelleMy last question sorry, would you think I would be ok with only a GPU upgrade?

Or do these new cards have some issue with older ram and CPU?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MxMFf7/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu850tx My power supply

[odd siren]

Find a used 10100f or 10105f and mobo, use your existing ram, get a $120 5700xt

That should be at or near 300, you may have room for a new psu

Alternatively

Used 5600/x, cheap am4 mobo at or near $70-$80

+5700XT again

2070S if you can find for $120 would work

But you really need to bump up that cpu, almost make the argument for it more so than the gpu tbh

[lime kelp]

@odd siren thanks for your advise would you mind putting together a parts list?

@lime kelpWould help, so I can transfer that information

[odd siren]

I'll drop a couple mobo recc's but the rest will be pretty self explanatory

[lime kelp]

Yea just make a whole list there, i dont want to get something confused

Thanks again

[solid glacier]

Just sold my PC now I wait for the 4080 super

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t4BB4M

I heed caution to the 2070S

If your psu is too old or not up to spec I don't see it ending too well

[odd siren]

Oh nvm this one's fine

It's old but fine

[lime kelp]

Ok

Where you find these GPUS used?

[odd siren]

r/hardwareswap

Good

good

Ebay listings

Fb marketplace

Etc

[lime kelp]

r/hardwareswap ??

[odd siren]

Mhm

Reddit

[lime kelp]

ohh reddit

[odd siren]

But those two things would get you barely up to speed with modern titles

Just about entry tier by current gen

[lime kelp]

@odd siren I guess my last question is what wold you build with a 1500$ budget?

[odd siren]

Weighing that up too ig?

1 min

@lime kelp https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3JpPYN this probs

Use tiktok shop for the rm750e deal

[lime kelp]

@odd siren Will do thanks for your help!

[keen nacelle]

Compatibility wise no

Performance wise yeah

[lime kelp]

@keen nacelleGotcha, yea thanks for your help

I will most definitly build that last one you put together

[keen nacelle]

4070 ti super also comes out soon at 800, which might drop 7900xt price

4070 ti super also supposed to be a decent bit better than 7900xt from what I know

[odd siren]

7900xt better in raster than 4070 ti

It'll be more like

4070ti super matches raster but brings other features

[livid idol]

It's overall about even in raster but depends on game and resolution

[odd siren]

Not really?

I used to think so too but was corrected about it

If you factor in RT they break about even

[lilac osprey]

I'm looking at XFX speedster cards and, what's this? The amount of VRAM scales linearly with performance and price? What a wild concept

[livid idol]

I was referring to the 4070 ti super, I'll be more specific next time

[raven wharf]

This thing is a chungus monster omg

Easily the best looking gpu ever imo

[odd siren]

Oh mb

[heady turtle]

Motherboard to you too

[maiden thistle]

In a new build, what would you choose between a 4070 ti super, 4080, and 4080 super

[junior locust]

Between 4070 Ti Super and 7900XT
Which better

[junior locust]

Honestly
7900XTX

4070 Ti Super depends a lot on how fast it actually is

Whole nGreedAI lineup is still too expensive for what it does

[heady turtle]

Depends on the budget

[heady turtle]

Unless xtx drops in price 4080 super is gonna be the best option for ~1k gpu

[vital oriole]

^

4080s is just a superior gpu tbf compared against xtx for the price it is at

minus vram but it's not problematic

[junior locust]

4070 Ti Super vs 7900XT might not be so clear tbf

and it's likely that the XTX will drop in price too

[vital oriole]

don't expect 4080 level from 4070 ti super

but it's definitely gonna match 7900xt

[junior locust]

it's supposely very, very close

but we'll just have to see when it comes out

[vital oriole]

ye

[teal cairn]

I am having a problem with my gpu as I get some horizontal white lines that appear on my screen. Whenever I boot my pc this happens but when I unplug the display cable and plug it back in it goes away. I have already reseated everything. It is a new gpu. If anyone knows anything I can do please let me know. If you need a video on what it looks like I have one that shows it.

[heady turtle]

1st try DDU, if that doesn't work try a different cable

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[teal cairn]

I have done both, no fix 😢

Maybe my card is messed up?

It runs games, but b4 I had no crashes and I have gotten 2 or three is the past few weeks with it

[teal cairn]

Yeah i cannot figure it out

[livid idol]

Try different ports on both the GPU and monitor

If that still doesn't do it, boot a portable OS and see if it does it on that too. If it does the card is the likely cause.

[teal cairn]

I tested another card and did not have the problem

[teal cairn]

I did this 2

I'm gonna just get a refund

[livid idol]

Yeah that would be a bad GPU sadly

[teal cairn]

😭

[odd siren]

I thought that lower card was a new 4070ti super but no it's an old 3080

Like "oh I recognise that cooler, I had one" lmao

[real fossil]

3050 worth it?

[spare relic]

Probably not

[keen nacelle]

No

How much is it

Unless it's like 140 or under new it's kinda ass value

[real fossil]

how much are 3060s in america?

[real fossil]

in the uk they’re re like £300 which is like 380$

[keen nacelle]

Very very bad

[real fossil]

whats a good gpu for 380$

[keen nacelle]

This slams the 3050 https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/xC88TW/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7600-xt-8-gb-video-card-11324-01-20g

[real fossil]

alright

cheers

[keen nacelle]

If you're open to used, you could likely find a 3060ti/3070/6700xt or similar

[real fossil]

👍

[spare relic]

For 380 that should be like

A 6800 or something? Idk I never looked at higher end part prices

[keen nacelle]

Eh, uk pricing a bit worse

Possibly a 6800/xt but I doubt that's common at that price

[real fossil]

im just looking for a 1080p gpu that wont bottleneck a 5600x that bad

[keen nacelle]

7600 is a good choice then

6700xt also would be good

Much more than that the cpu will become the bottleneck

[real fossil]

yeah

thats what i was thinking

[keen nacelle]

6750xt/3070 is about the most I'd do typically

[spare relic]

Uk must get bad prices if 7600 is a good choice for 380 😭

[keen nacelle]

Oh no not 380

260 gpb

Which is like 290 usd? 300?

Which isn't great compared to the US, but much better than a 3050 at 380

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-nickelodeon-sigh-phew-gif-5752975

[heady turtle]

When comparing to US prices you needa remember literally everywhere but NA include tax in their listings and tax is higher in general usually around 20%

Wow 4070ti super is about 3% better kekw

[livid idol]

Just like the 7600 XT is 3% better

But that's clearly an AI targeted product

[wicked hound]

Nice thing is that 4070TiS has more memory.

[odd siren]

This one chart really sets just about the whole picture for value on the low to mid range rn imo

[raven wharf]

i still dont understand how the 7700 xt still hasn't dropped in price no way it can be selling at where its at now

[odd siren]

Though I put a lot more value in the 6700xt as it's not normally $340

[raven wharf]

6700 xt is a really good card

gonna put mine in my sister's rig i think once i get my 6950xt fully set up

it doesn't fit in my case lol

[odd siren]

Lol

Oh yeah it's the xfx

[raven wharf]

chonky card

[odd siren]

The freaking surfboard of radron

[keen nacelle]

Yeah, the prices are a bit off from pricing over the last at least 6 months

New pricing for anything below mid range just sucks right now

Even lower mid range

[odd siren]

A bit but fairly close to representative

But it's interesting that the 7600xt is somehow equivalence to 7700xt

[keen nacelle]

Yeah it fills its purpose great

[odd siren]

We also have to remember for the 4060, it suffers bit bus bottlenecking at 1440p here

So it would also be a little higher

[raven wharf]

i feel like once rnda 4 comes around amd could really make some good entry level-mid range cards since the 6000 series cards will basically be gone by then, and the lowerend 7000 isnt that appealing

who knows

[odd siren]

Amd could make good mid range rn

[raven wharf]

yeah well

ai

[odd siren]

Drop 7600xt, drop 7700xt

Make 7700

Put it right in the middle

[raven wharf]

they need less cards tbh

should of gave

7700xt 16gb

[odd siren]

AMD's mid-low range is disgusting rn

The entry is great, the mid is great

[raven wharf]

and actually of given the 7600xt a spec increase

instead of the vram and clocks

[odd siren]

Well the thing with the xt iirc

7600 was already maxed navi 33

So they couldn't increase it

Not without tapping into navi 32

Which as you can see was a dumb af idea

[raven wharf]

navi is the name of the silicon each card is based on right? like ad102 or whatever it is for nvidia?

[odd siren]

Ye

Like ad102 ad103 ad104

Navi 31 navi 32 navi 33

[raven wharf]

31 is the 7900s?

[odd siren]

With derivatives based on cut counts

Ye

[raven wharf]

mk

[odd siren]

I believe navi...xl? Is the largest

[raven wharf]

what is the 6950xt, or is it not even called navi or something else?

[odd siren]

I'd have to double check

[odd siren]

Navi 21 xtxh

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/math-confuse-numbers-gif-10041147

i will not remember this

[odd siren]

All rdna is navi

5700xt is navi 11 I believe

[raven wharf]

ive learned alot since i started following pc stuff back in like july of last year but i am still so confused theres just so much info lol

is there something that navi stands for

or is it legit just what they decide to call their silicon

[odd siren]

Navi is just a name

Like ada lovelace

Think of it categorically as a type of radeon but it's just an umbrella term for rdna afaik

Rdna = radeon navi architecture?

Perhaps

Never thought about what rdna stands for ngl

Radeon dna...

[lime kelp]

What could beat this deal here https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08WPRMVWB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[heady turtle]

Literally so many things

[lime kelp]

by @heady turtle Let me know, Im searching for upgrade

[heady turtle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z9H7YJ/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-video-card-axrx-6650xt-8gbd6-3dh

Same level of perf outside of ray tracing and 40 less

[lime kelp]

This card has Raytracing tho?

@heady turtleIm actually looking for one with Raytracing, could you reccomend another?

[heady turtle]

It does have ray tracing just not as good I'm assuming you don't wanna spend more than around 300, this would be your best bet, 5 more but better rt, basically same regular perf tho
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7s88TW/msi-ventus-2x-black-oc-geforce-rtx-4060-8-gb-video-card-rtx-4060-ventus-2x-black-8g-oc

[keen nacelle]

At that budget 99% of the time you abandon rtx

Even on the nvidia cards it isnt worth the frame loss

[random walrus]

I do rtx on my 3060ti sometimes. With dlss it works ok (granted the ti is a fairly large jump over the 3060)

[heady turtle]

Suppose it depends on the game but yeah icky, also deffo would need to be 1080p

[keen nacelle]

You can fairly easily find a used 3070 within $300

If not 100% a 3060 ti

It's a major difference

[lilac osprey]

Question under 4070 Super Founder's Edition at Best Buy .com

[toxic sparrow]

XFX speedster 319 7800xt vs Saphire pulse 7800xt

[keen nacelle]

Sapphire

If you like the look of the xfx one more it's a very small difference

[heady turtle]

The cheaper

[odd siren]

Pulse is worth a few $ extra but otherwise stick with xfx, they're both decent

[lilac osprey]

Getting tempted to go up to Best Buy and get a 4070 Super

[odd siren]

For 600 they're quite good

[lilac osprey]

And they have Founder's Editions! Too cool!

Would you say that's better than 800 for the 4070 ti super?

[odd siren]

Yes

4070 super is likely nvidia's best offering rn

A polar flip from the 4070 being one of the worst they've ever released

That near 20% shift makes it almost on par with a 4070 ti

And 4070 ti super is <10% above that

So it's definitely better

4070 super is about on par for value for money with a 7800xt, but you get a wider compatibility range and RT features if that interests you, but does make it a better rounded card

4070 Ti Super was supposed to be close to a 7900xt

But...

Kinda falls short

[lilac osprey]

Womp womp womp

[odd siren]

Not in all ways

But in the things that matter it does

So if you asked me what to get

4070S>7800xt>7900xt>4070Ti (740 or less)>4070 Ti super

[lilac osprey]

🤔

[odd siren]

That's pretty much how I'd stack the mid-high end

[livid idol]

7% from what I've seen, comparing ti to ti super

With a 9% price hike

[heady turtle]

Isn't ti being discontinued and super going in at old msrp?

[odd siren]

Yep

So if you grab a 4070 Ti vanilla for sub 750 rn you're winning against Ti super basically

[ancient pagoda]

Hey I’m looking to upgrade my graphics card and was wondering if going from a 3070ti to 4070Super would be a good upgrade of should I go for the 4070ti at $100 more?

[odd siren]

A 4070ti for 700 would be solid

A 4070 super for 600 would also be solid

[livid idol]

The 4070 super is a good 30-40% better than the 3070 ti, and it's their best value at this time

[odd siren]

Yeah, 4070s would be a no brainer

But if you see 4070 ti for 740 or less rn, grab it

It's decent

[livid idol]

Bringing the receipts

[lilac osprey]

Huh?

[ancient pagoda]

Nice thank guess my other thing I’ll need probably is a new PSU as I’m know I have enough power but maybe not compatible wiring

[livid idol]

The original testing they did was on a buggy pre release model

[lilac osprey]

Oh yeah

[livid idol]

This is the latest chart with all the updated drivers and games that's why I picked it

[livid idol]

The 40 series cards come with an adapter for the 12VHPWR connector

[ancient pagoda]

Oh cool

Wait wasn’t there a fiasco about those having melting issues?

[odd siren]

If you're unsure drop the psu exact model and we can check

[odd siren]

Yes but as long as you triple check it's plugged in you'll be all good

Like plugged in, all the way

Aaallll the way

[ancient pagoda]

Ah ok probably going to get a new PSU anyway since I didn’t realize I only had a 750W

Which was fine on the 30 series but it seems the 40’s are a bit power hungry

[keen nacelle]

Actually vice versa

40 series is less power hungry

What model is your power supply

[odd siren]

If you have the exact model, send it and we can double check

4070S with just about any cpu should be fine on 750w if it's a good one

[livid idol]

4090 only since that's the only thing that uses enough power to melt

You have to intentionally insert it badly to melt anything else

[ancient pagoda]

@livid idol @odd siren @keen nacelle

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[odd siren]

You could throw a tank at that psu and it'd probably live

It's fine

Use it

[keen nacelle]

That's fine with even a 4090

You're good

I'd trust the 4070s on a 550w rmx

[livid idol]

I use the same power supply but the 850W model. They're excellent and the fan is silent.

[ancient pagoda]

Wow and here I thought was the corsair fanboi

[livid idol]

Corsair does 2 things very right, power supplies and cases

[ancient pagoda]

Idk I’ve seen nice things with their custom water loop products

[livid idol]

Their custom loop stuff is hit or miss

[ancient pagoda]

Oh

[keen nacelle]

The rmx is just a great psu, i say the same about the gf a3, xpg core reactor, most A tier psus

Rmx is just basically as good as it gets

[livid idol]

For the 1000W and below class, yeah

[ancient pagoda]

Tbh I’m wondering if it really is my gpu I’m having trouble with on my program

[livid idol]

Which program

[wicked hound]

"Their" rads are top tier, but that is only cuz it's actually Hardware Labs rads.

[ancient pagoda]

MSFS

[livid idol]

That game is unique in the way it heavily hits most of the components in the computer. What CPU do you have?

[vital oriole]

hooh, the 4070 ti super is closer to 4080 after fixes