graphics-cards

[solid glacier]

Yea I can’t figure out why the power plan won’t save

[odd siren]

Another program would be overriding it

Need to figure out which one

[solid glacier]

Only AMD adrenaline or gpu,cpu Z?

[odd siren]

?

Idk if either of those would change it

You'll need to do some sleuthing

[solid glacier]

I won’t bother yet lol I’m reinstalling a fresh windows tonight

A clean windows means I gatta redownload my amd chipset drivers right?

[odd siren]

Ye

[solid glacier]

i hope this isnt accurate

lmao

on fortnite btw

if thats acurate my pc is def messed up

[odd siren]

If that's dx12 then probably not as bad as it seems

[solid glacier]

its dx11 lol on low graphics settings

i was fetting 300 yesterday xD

btw should i do high performance or ultimate performance

[odd siren]

high-

wha ultimate?

I've never seen that one before

[odd siren]

sounds like ddu

[solid glacier]

do a ddu?

[odd siren]

Ye

[solid glacier]

Ight

wait no point im doing a fresh windows install xD

well reinstall

[odd siren]

Alr

[solid glacier]

i pray this works

[solid glacier]

Here it goes

Since i turned off on board graphics in bios i don’t gatta force it for again right with this fresh windows install

Felix after fresh install it takes a little bit to restart…

Uh oh now nothing is showing up my screen

Had to force my pc to shut down

Do I download my VGA drivers? Or download them from my actual gpu website

There’s this driver to never heard of it

[solid glacier]

@livid idol

[velvet grail]

It's always better to download from amd's website to avoid additional msi bloatware

[solid glacier]

alright i did that i only downloaded the chipset from the msi website

[velvet grail]

You likely don't need storage drivers, they're more likely to cause harm than running your current non updated ones

[solid glacier]

alright cool i didnt download that one

also should i install the most receent chipset driver or nah>

this isnt the most recent one

this one is

[velvet grail]

There's usually no need to, default drivers usually are good enough and provide all the functionalities

[velvet grail]

If it is working fine there's no need for updates atm

[solid glacier]

game is running smoothly again after fresh isntall lets see if it stays this way

if it doesnt its wifi or monitor

[solid glacier]

oh gg windows key wont work

xD

[random bluff]

is the 5600x and 6700xt a good combo

[odd siren]

you trying to build?

got a budget there?

[random bluff]

looking for a potential cpu upgrade

100-300

[keen nacelle]

Do you happen to have a microcenter near you?

[livid idol]

If you're near a microcenter you can get a 5600X3D, it's quite a bit better. If not the 5800X3D is the best gaming chip on AM4.
I don't recommend the 5600X unless it's cheaper than the 5600, they're the same.

[keen nacelle]

5600 is all the way up to $150, sad

5600x still $15 more

[livid idol]

Used isn't a bad option for AM4, the pins are pretty sturdy and don't break often.

[keen nacelle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335014427275?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=H7OeFd6UR9C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[odd siren]

Yeah at 150 the 5600 isn't the most compelling

[keen nacelle]

What's your current set up?

If you'd be willing to sell your cpu, mobo, and ram after upgrading you could do a good bit better, and have upgradability

[random bluff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4rscN6

[odd siren]

2 things:

1. Used 5600 or if you have a micro center, 5600x3d (update your bios for both of these)
2. When did you get that P-GM psu?

[random bluff]

no idea

my cousin built me this pc around 3 years ago

[odd siren]

If you say 2020 or 2021

Yeah

I'd be considering checking up on that one

Not all P-GM's are bad, but they had a huge scandal a couple years back, and they're infamous for failing

I'd do some research into it, you may have been eligible for a recall

One sec I'll pull up some info

[keen nacelle]

Do you have a microcenter nearby?

Yeah 3 years ago thats likely the explosive pgm

[odd siren]

@random bluff
https://youtu.be/aACtT_rzToI?si=whbYjWTa2V40aVAQ

[random bluff]

no

[keen nacelle]

Ah damn, alright

[odd siren]

If it was a newer p-gm I wouldn't be as worried

[keen nacelle]

Would you be willing to up budget, and sell your cpu mobo and ram after?

[odd siren]

But 2021 is smack in the middle of the scandal, when this was all coming out

I had a P-GM that did die on me, wouldn't wish it on anyone

P850GM

[keen nacelle]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/MSI-MAG-A750GL-PCIE-5-0-80-GOLD-Fully-Modular-Gaming-PSU-12VHPWR-Cable-ATX-3-0-Compatible-750W-Power-Supply/3527155175 this is $80, solid psu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nmhP9c

And I would say that is ideal, but ima do a cheaper one too

This with your current ram
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTgX34

Though honestly atp I'd just go 5600. 12400f is not much better

[random bluff]

alright

[keen nacelle]

I did link a 5600 new on ebay earlier

[keen nacelle]

.

[keen nacelle]

Also, if you'd be willing, newegg has some listings on tiktok shop

Tiktok has a new user coupon and at times new user discounts, 5600 would be like $100-130 depending on what coupon/sales are on rn

[raven wharf]

any predictions besides 40 supers and 7600 xt for ces tomorrow

[keen nacelle]

I've bought from there myself, as long as it's sold by newegg it's trustworthy

[keen nacelle]

14th gen below 14600k

Possibly new 7000 x3d? I doubt it though

Theyre already getting great sales with 7600/7800x3d/7950x3d

I do think they'll make a 7600x3d though

Aside from that I doubt anything special

Oh maybe 5700x3d

[raven wharf]

i have the urge to do an xtx and 7950x3d build

[cosmic bluff]

5900x3d

[raven wharf]

for no real reason

[keen nacelle]

7800x3d better choice imo, but go for it

[livid idol]

Better 1% lows with 7800X3D because no scheduling issues or dual CCD latency

[odd siren]

There will be people

A many of peoples

Computers

...might see a few

Maybe not you never know

[odd siren]

Honestly good when it works, AGESA is always an annoying pain with AMD even on new gen

Tho 7950 is a bit silly

[teal cairn]

I am getting a pny rtx 4070 verto dual fan this week and i have a bitfenix whisper m850 w 80+ gold. The GPU only needs 1 8 pin connector so I can just use one correct? I do not need to check anything or am i overlooking smth?

[odd siren]

850w is extreme overkill

1 8 pin

Have you bought it yet? How much is it?

[random walrus]

based on leaks, 5700x3d and 5700. Hopefully a wide release and not just Microcenter

[livid idol]

I know the 5800X3D yields were bad because the vcache was so experimental, but I don't think there's enough "bad" ones for a full release. I'm betting if it does happen it'll be limited again.

[teal cairn]

It's what I have

I am getting a 4070 for 300 from a friend who is giving up gaming bc he getting married

[vital oriole]

that's a good deal

[teal cairn]

Ya

[odd siren]

300 is quite good actually

good-

good friend

[heady turtle]

4080 super MSRP officially $1k

[odd siren]

officially decent

[heady turtle]

now lets talk about robots viewership tanks

[raven wharf]

the matte black fe is super clean ngl

[novel musk]

imagine i return my RX 7900 XTX for RTX 4080 Super

since they’re both $999

but idk if that’ll work with my pc since i have been using the amd gpu for weeks

unless i DDU?

and does Amazon even accept my 7900 xtx for return since i’ve been using the gpu for 3-4 weeks but is still within the return window.

[heady turtle]

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Uh wtf is that one in the middle

[raven wharf]

LOL

it looks like their own fe or smth

[heady turtle]

Yeah they would if still in return window, they're really good with returns like that

And yes you'd just ddu

[novel musk]

can they tell that i’ve been using the Gpu for like 3-4 months tho?

[heady turtle]

Nope unless it's dusty

[novel musk]

i’m just afraid that i return it and say “doesn’t work with my pc” but it actually works

and they find out i’m lying

[heady turtle]

Just say you don't want it anymore

If it's in return window

[novel musk]

oh ok

[heady turtle]

Amazon are really good with returns

[novel musk]

do u know if rtx4080 super can be ordered on amazon on release date

for MSRP

never ordered GPU outside amazon or newegg, so need some advice

[heady turtle]

For msrp i cannot guarantee

But yes to the others

[raven wharf]

im excited for the 7900 xt/xtx to potentially drop in price once the supers launch

[heady turtle]

I'm hoping so

[novel musk]

i am returning it LOL

got it in December but thank god they extended return window to Jan 31

[heady turtle]

Just fyi 4080 super doesn't drop for a few weeks

[novel musk]

does the 40 super series still use that stupid new pcie port nvidia wants us to use

[heady turtle]

Yes

[solid glacier]

Should I return my XTX and get the 4080

[novel musk]

damn u really are on the same boat as me

my return window closes on Jan 31

4080 Super releases on the 31st

[solid glacier]

oh boy

yea my return window is slim aswell

i prolly sohuld return mine

dang and the new amd ryzen cpus

sheesh

do i return my cpu to xD

[novel musk]

also does anyone know how to trick a game into thinking you have Nvidia GPU? There is no way my $999 7900xtx cannot render Metaball Liquid physics

[solid glacier]

thats if we can even get a 4080

4080 super

i mean

what are they priced at?

[novel musk]

4080 super is the same price as xtx

1k

[solid glacier]

oh ez

[novel musk]

i bought xtx for 970

but im afraid to return it

[solid glacier]

why

[novel musk]

bc ppl are sure gonna attempt to buy 4080 super and i wont be able to get it

[solid glacier]

yea theres that

[novel musk]

it's gonna be out of stock after 2 min or smth

and that will be the worst scenerio

cuz by then my xtx would be returned to amazon

[solid glacier]

most likely that will happen

oh rip

[novel musk]

not that i dont like my xtxs

[solid glacier]

my return is todya LOL

[novel musk]

xtx is rgeat

great

[solid glacier]

i hope i can get it extended

[novel musk]

it's just that some games require NVIDIA GPU

for no reason

metalball liquid physics? oh plz

why is nvidia required for that

[solid glacier]

real quesiton is

how big of a fps difference will i be seeing

i love my xtx xD

[heady turtle]

Possibly

[solid glacier]

4080 super i mean

[heady turtle]

Yeye

[odd siren]

people really be doing the mass exodus for the super

[novel musk]

damn feel better bro, i had covid 2 years ago and it was realllllyyyyy bad

[novel musk]

i mean, i wouldnt be returning my xtx if some games supported amd gpu.

[odd siren]

way I see what's going to happen here is potentially a lot of other gpus will get cheaper as people make that jump for the super cards

it's also been confirmed these are high yield dies so, supply would be something to watch for here

[solid glacier]

whats a good fan curve for bios

Is 74c cpu temp bad for max settings in r6 1440p?

feel like thats warmm

Might have to repaste

but its also warm af in my room

[keen nacelle]

Eh

What're fans at? Could change fan curve

Or uv core

[solid glacier]

Yea I have default fan curve rn, I forgot to set one

[solid glacier]

Was gonna use this oke

This is my default here

[odd siren]

More or less normal for x3d

[odd siren]

Lmk if you wanna go over settings later when we're both on, I'm about to head out for the day

Is it still stable?

[solid glacier]

Yea so far its stable games are smooth

but my fps is still pretty dang low for fortnite

[solid glacier]

Yea im down to go over settings whenever your free

[odd siren]

Dx11 or dx12

[solid glacier]

dx11

wait no neither

its on low graphics performance mode

[odd siren]

Performance?

Hm, like how much fps

[solid glacier]

200

oh wait

im a freakin dummy

i capped it on fortnite LOL i was getting like 400 plsui

[odd siren]

Ah

[solid glacier]

i havent tried avatar yet though

i prolly should

i was gonna run some 3dmark spy test bc i bought the full version

[solid glacier]

hey what did i do to my ram again? 6000 and what else

[keen nacelle]

Am5 right? Try 6000c30-32-32-68 for a start at I think 1.4v, there's a guide in #overclocking pinned

That should be easily runnable on any hynix if I remember right but id double check first

Or just wait for felix lol

[odd siren]

It's linked here

^Big reason why I prefer keeping stuff in here cos it's easy to find lol

You can follow along with me again from the past to set it up, but it should be saved to your first overclocking profile

Ok I'm out gotta go ✌️

[solid glacier]

Crape

[livid idol]

That could mean anything from "it's delayed more than they expected" to "customs decided to throw it off the dock"

If it already made it through customs then it's your local carrier that had the issue and you should call them

Probably just delayed then. They do give something like 4-6 weeks around holidays.

[odd siren]

Big.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/95371/amd-fluid-motion-frames-leaves-beta-joins-hypr-rx-for-all-rdna-2-and-3-owners/index.html

FSR3 now out of beta

but no longer needs a driver toggle

the 7600XT sucks but having frame gen available in more games than nvidia is a big deal

hopefully we see DLSS 3.5 shoot for this so we can lay the stupid fake frame discussion to rest

OH SHOOT

I think the ROG Ally supports this

[livid idol]

This could indeed be a game changer for mobile devices and integrated graphics

If it can run at least 40 fps natively then the generated frames won't be too obvious except in fast paced games

[odd siren]

100%

[vital oriole]

id rather buy 7600 if fsr 3 is the big goal

[odd siren]

?

it's available on all rdna 2/3

ignore the dumb amd 4060ti

[vital oriole]

right

i forgot

i was more so speaking of if anyone thinks 7600xt is anything different than 7600

that they should never buy one

[wicked hound]

Why is Starfield the only game with settings noted? What you doing AMD??

That said, it is quite nice to see AMD show basically all options on their graphs. Shows everything with no generative stuff enabled, then with upscaling, and then with generative frames.

Way better than Nvidia who does their best to not show all results and compares apples to oranges results.

[shell jewel]

yo guys i want to upgrade my pc but i wanna know if a 5800x3d will be fine to pair with a 4080? Im currently on a 3080 with a 5800x, i just dont want to build a whole new pc switching to am5

[livid idol]

1440p or higher that'll be fine

[keen nacelle]

I would highly recommend going am5, a 5800x3d costs as much as a 7600 and mobo, and your mobo+ ram will sell for more than ddr5 costs

But 5800x3d is fine with a 4080 yeah

[shell jewel]

yeah you're honestly right, i think what i may end up doing is upgrade to the 5800x3d now and then later down the line when the supers get out and stuff ill maybe make the decision whether to upgrade the gpu at all

[keen nacelle]

Btw for reference, 7600 is about the same as the 5800x3d, but you end up spending less (after selling your mobo and cpu,) and have upgradability

[shell jewel]

yeah but then i have to like

get new ram

and stuff

it just seems like a big headache idk

so ur basically saying instead of just the cpu, go to am5 and get some new ram, the cpu and just wait for the gpu

[livid idol]

It's really not worth upgrading from the 5800X to the X3D unless you're playing specific games that really love the extra cache more than normal.

Something like Microsoft Flight Simulator

[random walrus]

Or wait for 5700x3d perhaps?

Releases end of this month iirc

[odd siren]

he's right tho, you get basically a whole platform upgrade for the same price and less AGESA problems

going 7800X3D is arguable for the price too tbh, when 5800X3D comes up

ends up being a fair bit more overall but you then get a significant upgrade instead of a partial one

[raven wharf]

@odd siren do you think the #tech-deals 6950xt is worth getting now or should I wait to see how the supers affect the market in a month or two

[odd siren]

the 6950 I would expect to be a deal as a result of the supers

might be worth playing it out you never know

also 4070 super coming

might be a worthwhile wait with that one

[raven wharf]

if i were to stay amd

the 7900s have to come down in price right

since 4080s is 999

[odd siren]

they probably will

wouldn't expect by a massive amount tho

it all depends on the performance

2024 will be really interesting as AMD has pushed nvidia both to compete and to get their drivers really up to par in a vast majority of things from what I think so far

[keen nacelle]

Honestly is 600 a good price for one? I'd rather a 7800xt at $500

Or 4070 open box at 480

[odd siren]

6950 I'm pretty sure is more than a 16% jump in fps

actually it's barely 16%

lol

actually he didn't have a great game selection there

[raven wharf]

hm would it be worth trying to get a 7900xt then?

[odd siren]

interesting in 3dmark the difference is about 17%

not by rt numbers but pure raster it is

[odd siren]

when the supers drop maybe

Idk what to make of that tbh, a 6950xt yes, is just an unlocked 6900xt as xtxh

Vanilla 6900 is only a bit faster but overclocked xtxh can go much higher

I'm also getting a lot wrong today, I think I could be overtired

Definitely missing a lot of finer details

[shell jewel]

yeah i know i think i'm doing what he said

thats y i came here for questions haha

[odd siren]

Yeah all good

I just added my two cents in so it affirms his advice a bit

[shell jewel]

thanks, apprciate it

[odd siren]

No worries

[tepid thistle]

Yo, I'm trying to upgrade my graphics card. Currently I have a 6650xt and an i7 13700K, any reccomendations?

[keen nacelle]

You could do anything from a 6800xt to a 4090

[tepid thistle]

Would it be better to stick with with the 6800xt or go to the 4090?

I mean, stick with AMD or go with Nvidia

[keen nacelle]

I would say 7800xt, 4070 ti, or 7900xtx

Doesn't matter

[tepid thistle]

Got it.

[keen nacelle]

What power supply do you have?

[tepid thistle]

850W

[keen nacelle]

What model?

[tepid thistle]

Oh, EVGA Gold

[keen nacelle]

G6?

There's a lot of evga gold 850s

[tepid thistle]

Really? Mb, I'm a little bit new to this

EVGA 220-G5-0850-X1 Super Nova 850 G5, 80 Plus Gold 850W, Fully Modular, ECO Mode

That's the one I currently have

[keen nacelle]

Ah, if I remember right g5 is B tier and doesn't handle transient loads super well. Transient loads are power spikes, the xtx tends to have some decently high ones

So I can't say one way or the other if you're good to go for a 7900xtx, but a 4070 ti would certainly be fine

[tepid thistle]

Ah ok

[keen nacelle]

Or 4070 ti super. 4080/super likely too, 40 series transient spikes are very low

[tepid thistle]

Wait, That's not correct. One second, sorry. Let me find my order (I put this current PC Together yesterday, got tired of prebuilts)

EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GT, 80 Plus Gold 850W

GT

[keen nacelle]

Gt is solid, still B tier but id trust it with a 7900xtx

Same psu I have

[tepid thistle]

Awesome

Yeah, I was so nervous building this thing, but now that I got it together (and took my GPU from my old prebuild), I was thinking of upgrading it and maybe reselling the old PC

[keen nacelle]

Nice, did you go ddr5?

13th gen benefits around 10% or so with ddr5 opposed to ddr4

[tepid thistle]

No, I was worried about some of the issues with DDR5 compatibility, so I went with 32gigs of DDR4

In the future I plan on upgrading tho

But 32gigs of DDR4 shoulds serve me well until then

[keen nacelle]

Eh, changing ram would require changing mobo, so atp just go to a new cpu too

[tepid thistle]

Oh alr

Then, I'll probably do that when this PC takes it's last breath

[keen nacelle]

Lol

[tepid thistle]

I love the motherboard I got tho, I got the NZXT N9 Z690

[keen nacelle]

13700k still capable, but on ddr4 it would likely limit the xtx in some scenarios at 1440p, 4k it's unlikely

1080p pls don't run an xtx on 1080p

[tepid thistle]

Got it

[keen nacelle]

4070 ti I doubt you'd run into a cpu bottleneck, 7800xt/4070 and 4070 super when it launches definitely not

4080 super is supposed to be 1k and good value, xtx pricing might drop with its launch

4070 ti super which is an awful name I think is gonna be $800, which is also solid

[tepid thistle]

I'm looking to keep it under 850-ish

[keen nacelle]

Otherwise around $510 7800xt, $740-760 4070 ti, and 930-950 xtx

4070 ti is your friend then

[tepid thistle]

Oh awesome, I'll go with the 4070

[keen nacelle]

Or 7900xt but imo I'd rather the 4070 ti when it's basically the same price

[tepid thistle]

Yeah, $200 diff isn't that much

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9mNYcf/msi-ventus-3x-e-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-rtx-4070-ti-ventus-3x-e-12g-oc

Nah there's two 7900, the xt and xtx

Xtx slightly beats 4080, xt slightly beats 4070 ti

[tepid thistle]

Is xtx a lot more expensive?

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v2qPxr/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-pg-20go

Decent bit yeah, it's about 18% better than the 7900xt if I remember

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RRfnTW/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-11322-02-20g

Links to all three

[tepid thistle]

I might go with the 4070ti, unless there's no reason for the 7900XT

[keen nacelle]

7800xt is then a step down, around 15% or so worse than 7900xt and 4070 ti

4070 is right around 7800xt perf too

[tepid thistle]

Alr, awesome

[keen nacelle]

My choice among them would be 4070 ti

[tepid thistle]

I'll probably get that

It feels really sweet to build this thing myself, and especially since it costs less than if I bought something with the same specs

Or simmilar, I mean

But ty for the advice

[keen nacelle]

Yeah building is fun, albeit stressful

Np

[tepid thistle]

Yeah it's stressfull, I took all my parts to the guy I learned abt PCs from to build it, to make sure I don't screw it up, and it was very stressfull

After I put it together, the mobo wouldn't boot bc the OS it has doesn't support 13th gen CPUs out of the box

*BIOS

[shell jewel]

classic haha

[stark niche]

I googled the 4080 super and it sounds like all it is a discount version of the rtx 4080

[raven wharf]

it'll be a bit faster at a msrp 200 dollars cheaper than the 4080

i doubt itll ever be found at that msrp for awhile

but we are basically get better graphics cards for cheaper so im not complaining

im hoping it shifts the market a bit to where the high end amd cards come down even further

if not i might go for that xfx 6950 before its gone

[odd siren]

that's entirely the point of it

they made it slightly better to compete in raster with the 7900xtx

then they price matched the 7900xtx

it's entirely a knee-jerk reaction to the competitor card

lol

[raven wharf]

how far do you think they will drop the xtx

id guess 800-850 eventually

[odd siren]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[raven wharf]

NO

falcie sent me that once before

i hate that gif lol

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-cooper-bbt-sleep-i-dont-need-sleep-gif-5115394

[odd siren]

I can't give an answer on something I don't control lol

black friday as always is seemingly the best time to buy a gpu

or most of any parts really

we were down to like $500 for entry tier brand new

[stark niche]

Black Friday ended a few months ago so you’re out of luck

[vital oriole]

amd doesn't need special occasions to drop prices

they're just

random tbh

or just getting rid of remaining stock once new generation comes out

then you get almost 50% off basically

[tepid thistle]

Yo, could a 850W Evga GT support an I13700 and a 4070 ti Super?

[keen nacelle]

Yes easily

If you dont have the cpu and you're just gaming, consider a 13600k/kf

Or 7600/7800x3d

The main difference with the i7 vs the i5 13600k is 2 extra p cores, which don't help for gaming.

[tepid thistle]

I do already have the i7, I plan on using the pc for video editing in the near future

I'm gonna save up for the 4070 super now tho.

[keen nacelle]

Ah alr

[keen nacelle]

4070 super or 4070 ti super?

[tepid thistle]

Ti super

[keen nacelle]

Nice

[tepid thistle]

Sorry, the names confused me lol

[keen nacelle]

Yeah the 850 gt is a solid psu, it's B tier but it's towards the top end of B tier. I'd trust that even with a 4090

Yeah the name is really odd

The 4080 should have been the 4070 ti, and all the other gpus should have been moved down 1-3 names. Because they did that, they had to come up with a new name for what would've been the 4070 super or 4070 ti

[tepid thistle]

After I get my new GPU tho I'm gonna try to clean out and sell my old pc with the gpu, and get some money back for some more intake fans

[tepid thistle]

Lmaoo

[keen nacelle]

Oh fans are dirt cheap. C12c 3 pack is 12-14 on amazon and are great fans

Come in black, black rgb, and white rgb

[tepid thistle]

Yee, I REALLY want to get these Lian Li daisy chain fans with LCDs on them and move the case fans to the bottom

They look so cool but they're 140 for a 3pack

[keen nacelle]

That is insane

Like

$40 for a 3 pack is already overpriced

[spare relic]

You can get 3 RGB fans for 1% of the price

That Bacca puts in their lists lol

[tepid thistle]

I'll definitely look into it

[spare relic]

Oh I didn't see

[tepid thistle]

Yeah it is

It looks so nice but 140 hurts

[keen nacelle]

Here's the link
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vq6p99/thermalright-tl-c12c-s-x3-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12c-s-x3-d6

Performance wise compared to basically any other fans, you won't see more than a few degrees difference

[tepid thistle]

Got it

[odd siren]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

Steam

Lossless Scaling

Lossless Scaling lets you upscale windowed games to full screen using state-of-the-art spatial scaling algorithms, sharpening algorithms and machine learning.Scaling algorithms are currently presented: LS1 AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution (AMD FSR) NVIDIA Image Scaling (NIS) Integer Scaling Nearest Neighbor xBR Anime4K Sharp Bilinear Bicubic CASL...

Price

$6.99

Recommendations

1312

Lol

[livid idol]

FSR 3 is open source so there's no reason you couldn't make an implementation like that and charge a little for your effort

[odd siren]

Only a matter of time ye

And $7, with steam's refund policy covering you

[livid idol]

That's really not bad scaling at all. I can see some real use for this. NIS and FSR both look better than the bilinear filter by far, nearly as good as native. (discord compression is bad, hit open in browser)

[patent ice]

is a 7800xt with ryzen 7500f a good combo?

[livid idol]

Isn't the 7500F OEM only

Originally China only

[odd siren]

If you can get one for a decent price

Yes

[patent ice]

you can buy it on aliexpress and some stores in my countries

[odd siren]

Very good

[patent ice]

it is 180 in my country

[odd siren]

Euro?? That's not bad at all

[patent ice]

yeah

[odd siren]

It's just a 7600 with no igpu afaik

[keen nacelle]

Yeah it is

Pretty solid at that price

[livid idol]

That looks like the case to me too

7500F is just 100MHz lower and no iGPU

[keen nacelle]

If 6800xt, 3080, 6900xt, or 4070 are cheaper than the 7800xt, go for one of those

[livid idol]

Nothing a little PBO can't fix

[keen nacelle]

Just depends on stock in your country

[patent ice]

they arent cheaper in my country + i am gonna go for a white build a second hand 7800xt on amazon = 542 euro and and i can also get a brand new 7700xt for like 70 euro less should i go for that?

[livid idol]

The 7800 XT would be way better if you can trust the seller

The 7800 XT is also comparable to the 6950 XT, which you should also be able to find used

[odd siren]

7700XT is almost as much ewaste as the 4060ti

[solid glacier]

@odd siren okay so yea its back to giving issues

gg

[odd siren]

Don't bother with it

Ehhh

Do you know what you installed

There has to be some time tracking there that you may have noticed something going wrong finally

@solid glacier do you change your resolution a lot or something

Cos in the same time we've been doing this I've had no issues on my xtx

Use a vertical display?

Toggle a lot of adrenalin settings?

Install a specific set of programs you might need that could be interfering?

Reason I say this is there are times this can be completely unrelated to the hardware itself, so swapping over doesn't fix the problem

In this case as well it was two completely separate rigs

I really suspect it's something maybe being toggled or a program that is installed that is just hating windows lol

[solid glacier]

I only have 2 games on my system lol i havent changed or downloaded any settings

besides the usb thing

[solid glacier]

nope

[odd siren]

It just, relegated to that in that time?

[solid glacier]

yep just randomly isnt smooth

[odd siren]

So apart from games, what's basically everything else installed rn

Also, run command prompt as admin, do:
sfc /scannow
And see if it errors

Now that I think about it

Didn't this exact same pattern happen on the 6900xt system??

[solid glacier]

yuppp

thats why im confused af

same exact issues on both systems

Alrighty let me restart rq

[raven wharf]

is it better to order a gpu from amazon or Newegg

[solid glacier]

Depends on the price

[raven wharf]

600, it’s the 6950 in #tech-deals

I checked and it’s also on Newegg

[odd siren]

System repair???

[solid glacier]

maybe bc i had a update for windows drivers loll

i restarted but it didnt pop up again

[odd siren]

Oh maybe

I hope so

[odd siren]

So windows itself isn't having issues

Unlikely again, to be the ram work we did

Take me through your installed apps

Things you've added to use ur pc

[solid glacier]

aint my ram i did a test for it with prime 95

i did it twice and came out smooth no errors

[odd siren]

That's....

Not a ram test but ok

Lol

[solid glacier]

nah i meant like stablity lol

[odd siren]

Ah

[solid glacier]

i have epic games, fortnite, steam, amd adrealain, ubisoft connect, rainbow six siege

[odd siren]

Any side apps?

[solid glacier]

nope

[odd siren]

Remote desktop connection?

[solid glacier]

opera gx

[odd siren]

Hmmge

[solid glacier]

never used this

[odd siren]

Alr

Uh

[solid glacier]

oh discord

[odd siren]

What about in settings app

Oh ofc

But discord can't be it

Oh that reminds me

[solid glacier]

btw onedrive cant be the one causing problems right lmfao

[odd siren]

Enabled hardware accelerated gpu scheduling yet?

No

[solid glacier]

ok

oop my bad

[odd siren]

Tho I don't touch onedrive

All g

[solid glacier]

i dont got that option on my end

[odd siren]

Sure?

[solid glacier]

nvm,

im a idiot

[odd siren]

Was it off?

[solid glacier]

no it was on

i can have this on with my amd free sync?

[odd siren]

Then it won't be that

Yes

[solid glacier]

ight coo

that was always on to

[odd siren]

What apps come up as installed in the settings app

Ones you'd have added

Control panel doesn't list everything

used to

[solid glacier]

nothing comes up that i already stated i installed

at this point im thinking my wifi or monitor

bc my tests says my pc is running fine

[odd siren]

Monitor and wifi are the same across both pc's?

[solid glacier]

yes

[odd siren]

Oooo

Ok

Wifi is sus

I've said this 1000 times before, wireless drivers are stupid af on windows

I've had bricked installs from bad wireless drivers

Every couple weeks I scan my systems and windows finds corrupt bt or wifi all the time

Wifi is very sus

[solid glacier]

hmm

[odd siren]

Got a model for that wifi card?

[solid glacier]

MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI

[odd siren]

Oh it's built-in

Nvm that would be a whole new module

[solid glacier]

my last pc didnt have a wifi card and i was having these issues

i had to use a ethernet bc it didnt have on board wifi

[odd siren]

Yeah won't be that then

Alr so monitor... I've seen stories like that before

Got a different monitor?

I would also welcome the opportunity to ddu rn

As much as it's been fruitless before

It can end differently every time

[solid glacier]

i mean i can try using a different driver?

[odd siren]

Sure

Anything in like the last

6 months is good

Newest 2 will be good cos hypr rx has frame gen

[solid glacier]

ill DDU then im gonna go buy that moniitor at walmart to test it to see if its mine if it is ill RMA mine or use the warranty on it but thats gonna take a long time LOL

[odd siren]

Yeah man

At this point we've really tried everything

[patent ice]

now that i think about it dont have enough for the 7800xt is the 7700xt still a viable option?

[odd siren]

No

Pick anything around the 4060ti and 7700xt

But not those two ever

[patent ice]

i understand the 4060 ti but why not the 7700xt?

[odd siren]

Sacrifice some white colour to make a 7800xt imo, the $70 difference is like a 20% performance jump

[odd siren]

7700xt just too high price, it should be near 400 euros not 450

Price/perf in the market it's quite poor from amd offerings

Probably calculably similar to 7600xt now that I think about it ...

[patent ice]

the 7800xt for my country is just as expensive no matter the color

[odd siren]

What about 6800xt

Or 6700xt

[patent ice]

80 euro cheaper than 7700xt but no white :(

[odd siren]

How many euros

[patent ice]

389 for a swft 3 fan and 356 for a Asrock 2 fan

[odd siren]

Challenger d asrock?

[keen nacelle]

What country are you in?

If you're fine with sharing

[patent ice]

Netherlands

[keen nacelle]

Ahh alr

[odd siren]

356 isn't that bad

Acceptable given import

[keen nacelle]

And how much is the 7800xt again?

[patent ice]

542 second hand on amazon

[odd siren]

Acceptable

70 less for 7700xt is a joke

[keen nacelle]

There's also the option of buying a black gpu and painting it yourself, felix mightve mentioned that

[patent ice]

is it easy?

[odd siren]

I haven't but yeah you're right

Yes

[patent ice]

is there a big chance of wasting 500 euro?

[odd siren]

No

[keen nacelle]

Cheapest New 7800xt I see is $572

There's also this https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/bfV2FT/asrock-steel-legend-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx7800xt-sl-16go

[odd siren]

Take the gpu apart until you have only the shroud

Then, paint

[keen nacelle]

There's youtube tutorials on it

[patent ice]

ok i will look into that then

[odd siren]

Plastidip exists if you don't want to permanently paint it white

[keen nacelle]

How bad would it be to order from denmark?

[odd siren]

Hell you can do it for anything really

Painting white

[keen nacelle]

Would it be upwards of 50 euros?

[odd siren]

Just if you do heatsinks, don't paint the underside

[solid glacier]

i wish newegg had a car channel LOL

[patent ice]

isnt it in a whole other currency?

[odd siren]

Lol

[patent ice]

there is also a 6750xt for 400

[odd siren]

Tbf you're asking the Canadian about Europe's way of commerce

Lol

[odd siren]

Nah, 6700xt isn't that bad

[patent ice]

yeah ik but i dont know any other way to ask for pc advice

[keen nacelle]

Wait I meant Germany my brain got messed up since Germanys pcpartpicker.com is de.pcpartpicker

[odd siren]

Ah

Amazon de is not bad if it can deliver cheap

[keen nacelle]

If its not bad, you could do
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/fcBzK8/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-11330-02-20g

[odd siren]

Pulse is nice

Arguably one of the better amd choices

[patent ice]

i can get used 7800xt for 500

[odd siren]

500 is great

Whatever model it is for 500 is great

Even the midrock challenger

[patent ice]

the same that he send

[odd siren]

Pulse? Excellent card

Best one you can pick imo

[patent ice]

but idk if i got the money because i first forgot to factor the cpu cost because i was gona buy it from somewhere else

[keen nacelle]

What's the total budget for your build?

And are you just gaming?

[patent ice]

i am trying to get a upgrade between 700-800 euro i already have a case storage psu(an old one) and i am jsut gaming playing some AAA titles but mostly competetive games and i am trying to go for a white build

[odd siren]

Oh yeah

You still need to check that psu mate

If it was anything like a thermaltake white then one bad scene on the 7800xt and the whole system could honestly fry

This is not an exaggeration

[patent ice]

my dad also dont remember and he is sleeping rn so idk and i dont even know what a psu looks like but it is small atleast

[odd siren]

Easy enough to open up the pc to look

And send us the sticker on the side or top

[keen nacelle]

Do you know the model case or if it's atx/matx?

[patent ice]

wait i can see it but it is all the way at the bottom nevermind it is just average sized

[patent ice]

atx

[keen nacelle]

On the side of it it'll have its model name

[patent ice]

but my psu is like blocked by a layer from my case

[keen nacelle]

Yeah you gotta take the side panel off

[patent ice]

so i cant see it

[keen nacelle]

Should be a couple screws at the back of the case

[odd siren]

You should have access from the other side

Either thumb screws or a screwdriver will get it open

[keen nacelle]

Do you need wifi or are you going to use ethernet?

[patent ice]

ethernet

[keen nacelle]

And for storage, is it an ssd?

Or hdd

[patent ice]

but i think i am gonna ask tommorow when my dad is awake then because i have no idea how this works

[patent ice]

2 ssd's

[odd siren]

Well either way you do it, it's really pertinent information

Like most people here would tell you to get a new psu if you can't confirm it's good/end up confirming it's bad

[keen nacelle]

This is what I came up with
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/D7DyQP

[patent ice]

ok

[odd siren]

Poor power supply choices for a system can lead to actual house fires

Especially the really low tier ones

[keen nacelle]

Intel option https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/FrJX34

[patent ice]

i mean i want to go for a 7500f so i dont have to upgrade for like the next 6 years

[keen nacelle]

If you found a deal for a better cpu elsewhere ignore me

Oh wait I forgot about that

Mb, 180 you got it for right?

[patent ice]

yeah

[keen nacelle]

The thing with ddr5 is you can't go 16gb

[patent ice]

i have found 16 gb

[keen nacelle]

8gb sticks are built differently than other capacity sticks, basically they're about 40% worse in performance

And 16gb single channel is just as bad

[patent ice]

https://www.amazon.nl/gp/product/B0BZJBWC4R/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=A17D2BRD4YMT0X&psc=1

[keen nacelle]

So your options are go 32gb, or massively lose out on performance

You could go 16gb single channel, and then add a second stick as soon as you can

[patent ice]

2 sticks 16 gb ddr5

[keen nacelle]

Speed/timings much less than ideal

One sec

[odd siren]

Make it a good ddr5 kit if you go ddr5

Even some of the cheapest options are gems if you know what to look for

[keen nacelle]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/JkvFHG

That's the cheapest kit I'd go for

[odd siren]

Eh cl36

[patent ice]

i will try to convince my parents lmao

[keen nacelle]

Yeah its not ideal, but fine

[patent ice]

but if i cant is the 6700xt also a viable option?

[keen nacelle]

Otherwise I would spend less on the gpu

Yes

6700xt very solid

Anything 6000 series 6700xt and up, see if you can find any deals used

And any 30 series 3060 ti and up

[odd siren]

Samsung would likely actually train less tight to the point where the extra 15 euros makes sense:
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZPpzK8/gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl28-memory-f5-5600j2834f16gx2-rs5w

[keen nacelle]

If you can ye that's worth the extra ^

Especially on am5, am5 likes low timings

[odd siren]

Not just that, hynix has better resale as ram

It's like the b die of ddr5 honestly at this point

[keen nacelle]

But I would rather have a 7500f with decent ram and a 6700xt than a 5600 or 7500f with bad ram and a 7800xt. Bad ram is not an enjoyable experience

[odd siren]

And probably will be for the rest of ddr5

[keen nacelle]

Ram really affects frame drops, as well as cpu performance

And overall system performance

Oh last thing

[odd siren]

He wants white bte

Btw

[keen nacelle]

If you want to spend some more on mobo, you could get a good bit better

[odd siren]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/xZfxFT/asrock-a620m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-a620m-pro-rs

This is a white mobo

Ignore the first pic

[keen nacelle]

Is it? There's a black version too

[odd siren]

No it's white

Look 2nd pic

Same price

Arguably better anyway than gaming x

[keen nacelle]

This is also solid https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq4Zxr/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2

[odd siren]

This is good
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/k9TxWt

[keen nacelle]

Ye that's ideal ^

[odd siren]

Or as bacca said, go 6700xt for 357

[keen nacelle]

Or look for a used 6000/30 series card

[patent ice]

how much mhz speed should i aim for atleast then? ram

[keen nacelle]

5600mhz+ cl32 or lower

And 2x16gb

[odd siren]

Whatever ddr5 kit it is

Make it two things

1. 2x16gb
2. CL32 or less

[patent ice]

what is CL32

[odd siren]

Ram has a hundred other settings apart from mhz to work

[patent ice]

where can you see that in ram

[keen nacelle]

The timings. The kit you linked was 5200mhz cl40

[odd siren]

CL or CAS Latency is one of them on the box

[keen nacelle]

In the title

[patent ice]

a h ok

[odd siren]

See this one I linked is CL28

I posted the link on reflex lmao

[keen nacelle]

Anything cl32 or lower is gauranteed hynix. Hynix has two ddr5 skus, M die and A die. M die can do really low timings super easily, you could spend 5 minutes and set it to 6000c30-32-28-70 or something like that. M die is ideal for am5

[odd siren]

Hynix is basically the overall fastest ram

[keen nacelle]

A die is ideal for intel 12th-14th gen. A die can do crazy high speeds, I don't know what a good example is

[odd siren]

8800

Lol

[keen nacelle]

Especially on ddr5, having good ram is very useful. You can spend 5 min and vastly improve 1% lows and overall performance

[keen nacelle]

I meant for a whole xmp including timings, but fair

[odd siren]

Oh

Uh

7200 cl34-46-46-77?

[keen nacelle]

Like 8000 c32-36-36-72?

Oh

[odd siren]

Something like that

[keen nacelle]

Ignore me

[odd siren]

8000 cl32 idk if exists

8000 cl38 does

And yes it's hynix but we don't buy those

[keen nacelle]

I have never touched d5 tuning, I only know about m die lol

Wait

[solid glacier]

felix i ddued same issue

[keen nacelle]

Not xmp

I meant a custom xmp

[solid glacier]

felix do u think its bc i was twitch alot more than i game on my pc or nah

[keen nacelle]

Wording

[odd siren]

You're cursed 😂

[solid glacier]

r youtube videos in general

im on my way to get that monitor loll

[odd siren]

Nah

I watch a lot of YT too

It's just videos

Maybe opera?

But idk, that would be a surprise

[solid glacier]

i use to use google chrome on my old pc same issue

[odd siren]

Oh, 6000 CL30-38-38-38-89

[patent ice]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/ is this a decent list?

[odd siren]

That is indeed a list

A nice blank one

[patent ice]

what

[odd siren]

Wrong link

[patent ice]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zgsrt7

[odd siren]

Theres a lot extra spent there for basically 0% improvement

What case have you got

I would argue the 6700xt swft and challenger are similar tier

[patent ice]

deepcool cc560 white

[keen nacelle]

The mobo and ram Felix linked are better

[odd siren]

Yeah I would never touch a prime b650

Not trying to be mean

That's the one board that got TERRIBLE reviews

For terrible temp issues

[patent ice]

yeah but you linked a mini atx

[odd siren]

Yes

[keen nacelle]

Matx fits in atx

[odd siren]

I would argue a new case even before I'd opt for that board and ram tbh

I could let the gpu go

[patent ice]

i just got it a few months ago💀

[odd siren]

Is it the argb version or the older molex

[patent ice]

the single color

[odd siren]

Oof

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/hrvD4D/jonsbo-d41-std-atx-mid-tower-case-d41-std-white

Would consider something like this instead

[patent ice]

But RGB✨

[odd siren]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/7FsV3C/jonsbo-d31-std-microatx-mini-tower-case-d31-std-white

D31 is amazing

[odd siren]

The prime* mobo has no rgb

[patent ice]

ik but the ram

[keen nacelle]

The ram is fine if you want the rgb, you might have to set it to 6000mhz instead of 6400

[odd siren]

That makes it like twice the price

What is with netherlands and white pc's costing a fortune

[keen nacelle]

You can also just add rgb strips separately

[odd siren]

There's only like D31 and CC560 under 70 euros

Under 70

How about we don't do white

[patent ice]

idk

[patent ice]

i mean i am fine rn with my case it doesnt have any problems yet

[odd siren]

The moment you consider white and rgb and the price skyrockets

That's not your fault it's more just wtf

I go to find a white cpu cooler and I have to pay 40 euros vs a regular one 20

The peerless assassin costs less than the first white cpu cooler

[patent ice]

reverse racism fr

[patent ice]

there isnt any cheaper ones with 6000mhz that is lower than 32 CAS

[odd siren]

Really would do this for full white
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/nwczCd

[patent ice]

god damn

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/Dr7FHG i mean i cooked up this and i can maybe just pay someone to paint it

[odd siren]

You realise there's no price on the 7500f right

You're way over 800 there

And I would never recommend strix

Strix is a prime but with a terrible asus tax

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/nxsrt7

^this

That's as slim as you can fit in ur budget

You can't have the cake and eat it too here, you'll just inflate the budget way out

Throw $20 at a white spray can and a tube of arctic mx-6

Repaste and paint the gpu white

And that will be ur full white for 800

It really won't get better than this for your budget if you insist on a white colour

[patent ice]

ok ty

[odd siren]

And this is ignoring that you get a black stock cooler

In the cpu box

Cheapest white rgb cpu cooler is a 40 euro single tower and disgusting

[patent ice]

is this good?

[odd siren]

Good if it was 25 euros, disgusting when the peerless assassin is cheaper

[odd siren]

Yes

Idk why it wasn't on pcpp

I would've picked that in a heartbeat although, 28 is a bit high

25 ideally

Under 20 amazing

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/FBq8z6
really would try to find a cheaper white single tower

But you're close to about as maximised 800 as you can get

Assuming your psu is decent

Otherwise a gpu or cpu downgrade might be necessary

[patent ice]

ok ty alot i am now gonna study because i have a like a exam week and if i do will i can upgrade my pc so first gotta pass that but ty alot if i can find my psu i will send it

[raven wharf]

Do you think it matters if I order a gpu off of Newegg or Amazon?

[odd siren]

No

Whoever is cheapest wins

My experience with both are personally very good

[raven wharf]

Cause that 6950 is on both

Newegg was like a dollar more but came a few days sooner I think

[odd siren]

Cheapest wins

Well

A dollar is nothing

[raven wharf]

If something were to go wrong does someone do returns better than the other?

[odd siren]

Amazon is usually better

But newegg can be quite good too

Honestly if 6700xt has been fine, 6950xt should be fine. Lol

Make sure you have at least a good 750w

[raven wharf]

As in where I got it from and how it’s been performing?

I got it from Newegg, asrock

I’m not doubting it wouldn’t be fine

Just would like to make sure with a gpu that’s basically twice as expensive

[patent ice]

quick question what is so bad about the prime b650?

i mean i found this one (i can also buy second hand for 160) but that is the cheapest atx motherbord i can find

[odd siren]

It was the only AM5 board that came out with terrible running temps

[keen nacelle]

It's just very poor value and performance

[odd siren]

i.e you'd be throttling on things you didn't need to

Which means actually lost performance

[keen nacelle]

If you REALLY want an atx board
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/jQgrxr/gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-x

[odd siren]

I mean for any possible issues

[keen nacelle]

But that money would be better put towards a better gpu

[patent ice]

isnt that lga 1700 ?

[odd siren]

Just make sure your psu is up to the task @raven wharf

[keen nacelle]

Also go for this if you go 6700xt
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/c3RYcf/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-video-card-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dh

Model really doesn't matter much

[odd siren]

Yeah I found that one, I've been linking it

[patent ice]

wont a matx motherboard look really bad in an atx case

[odd siren]

It's better than challenger

[keen nacelle]

No

Dc560 is also on the smaller end of atx iirc

[raven wharf]

👍

[keen nacelle]

There's also this
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs

[odd siren]

If you want to spend 30 euros, spend it on a vertical gpu mount

[raven wharf]

I was thinking of getting a nice seasonic 850 in the future

Just to make sure

[odd siren]

That would solve any aesthetic concerns

[odd siren]

Seasonic is no longer the goat

Hasn't been for a long time

[raven wharf]

Who do you recommend besides Corsair then? Mine currently has stupid coil whine under load

[patent ice]

is this than a good matx then?

[odd siren]

If you want a good 750w or 850w

Thermaltake gf1 rn

Both under 100

[odd siren]

The a620m I keep linking is white and good matx

It's a black board on the back but white on the front

You know the side you see

[raven wharf]

Pro WiFi?

If so that’s the board I have

[patent ice]

ok

[odd siren]

Not u ryan

Lmao

[raven wharf]

??

[odd siren]

Oh wait

No I'm understanding now

You have the a620m pro wifi

[keen nacelle]

Yes

[raven wharf]

Yes

[odd siren]

I thought you were saying you had an msi pro wifi

Lmao

[raven wharf]

No I didn’t realize that was a thing lol

[odd siren]

Lmfao

Yes we're talking about that board

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZCQcCJ/nzxt-c750-2022-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-pa-7g1bb-us

[odd siren]

A620m pro rs wifi

[keen nacelle]

That's actually well priced rn

[odd siren]

Oh yeah c750

I forgor

It's like 80 ish

[keen nacelle]

$10 more for 850w tho https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vNcgXL/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-l

Ooh $80 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x4hv6h/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-tt-premium-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-p

Ok I'm sorry I'm spamming links, last one this or the 750 gf1, $90 for 850w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kVyH99/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-tt-premium-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-p

[odd siren]

All good choices ngl

If you don't already have a good 750w+

Just cos 6950 is xtxh and VERY power happy

Both rdna 2 and ampere had horrible spike behaviour

Would still argue rdna 3 is not great overall either

[foggy grotto]

Does Ryzen 5 7600x pair good with Rx 7900xt??

[odd siren]

What's ur budget

New pc?

[foggy grotto]

Yeah

[odd siren]

What's ur budget? Need wifi?

Monitor mouse and keeb in the budget?

What you usin the pc for

[foggy grotto]

for like gaming

heavy gaming

[odd siren]

Alr

Any idea the kind of games?

[foggy grotto]

yeah newest call of duty

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QPH2z6

here is my part i pick

[odd siren]

So dialling back rq

Budget, monitor mouse keeb, wifi?

[foggy grotto]

budget like 2000

monitor 1440p 144hz