#graphics-cards

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lone pond
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I apologize for any confusion if there was any 😅

heady turtle
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ah right

oak rivet
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@odd siren did yk any issues with this model specifically?

hot bough
heady turtle
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But they're all overbuilt just get the cheapest

forest oasis
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Imagine msi ventus x2 4090

odd siren
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And yeah use anti-sag with it

distant adder
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What do you guys think of 3070 ti for 470$?

oak rivet
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Sounds terrible with 4060ti 16gb coming imo

livid idol
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Or get a brand new 6800 plus resident evil 4

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That's guaranteed to beat the 4060 ti 16GB for the same price

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(And it's last gen, big oof)

distant adder
keen nacelle
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Specify different country

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What country

livid idol
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Which country? That's usually good to specify lol

distant adder
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Saudi

keen nacelle
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Then it's probably well priced

distant adder
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Hmm

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My budget now is smth around 450$

livid idol
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So about 1700 Riyal?

distant adder
distant adder
livid idol
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6750 XT is comparable to the 3070 ti but has more memory, so it should last longer if the current trend continues

heady turtle
velvet grail
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Every 40 series is terrible anyways

vital oriole
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i would argue otherwise personally

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in my view 4070ti and 4090 are the good ones

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4080 not really, it's a weird middle gap

velvet grail
vital oriole
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i would argue with that still since 4070ti offers pretty good perf for the amount of power it uses

velvet grail
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Unless this new series drops in price by a lot and then it'll maybe be a bit better

vital oriole
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pricing wise it's bad but the card itself is not bad

velvet grail
vital oriole
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i have to agree that 6950xt is better value

velvet grail
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But I feel like most people don't care about power consumption anymore

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It'd be nice seeing some brands go back with single fan cards for newer ones like the 4060/ti

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One thing I hate is that you have to pay 100 more bucks to get +8gb on the 4060ti

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That's way too much

heady turtle
velvet grail
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Potato backup power

oak rivet
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people post your xtx score if you can

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cant wait to go home and bench it

vital oriole
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just when did you get money for a 4090

oak rivet
vital oriole
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fair enough

oak rivet
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If I hadn't sold the 2080ti would have to wait another month for my salary to get in

heady turtle
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You scammed the poor buyer wtf

oak rivet
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put a banana for scale

fringe scroll
fringe scroll
oak rivet
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its very bad at oc compared to the 3080ti tbh

fringe scroll
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Didn't someone say that it will lol

hot folio
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Gaming OC was always bad for OC iirc

heady turtle
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40 series doesn't actually scale well with power either so main oc will be mem afaik

hasty sphinx
lone pond
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lol

fringe scroll
meager tapir
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would a refurbished rx 6800 xt gpu shipped and sold from newegg be good?

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400 dollars

heady turtle
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Yes

lone pond
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I can grab the link RQ

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NVM it sold out

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There was like ten of them

heady turtle
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Yeah but reassurance of buying from trusted seller worth 20$

livid idol
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2 people in the last month reported having their order canceled with no explanation from that seller

rustic pulsar
livid idol
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It makes them a risky seller

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When 3 out of 18 sales in a month report issues

forest oasis
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17% of the customers for the month

lone pond
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Recent ratings often say a lot more

near hawk
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i know this is probably a bit of a stretch, but would anyone here happen to know/help with a wack gpu memory clock error or just answer some questions about it?

near hawk
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I managed to get it figured out after looking up stuff for a few hours

forest oasis
near hawk
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Conflicting information lol. Got confused about what was supposed to be the proper clocks on the card. Asked around and got it figured out.

forest oasis
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Ah

near hawk
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Yeah, sadly doesn't fix the nvlddmkm errors though

forest oasis
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What are the error codes

lone pond
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What’s the most I should be paying for a used 2080 Ti?

oak rivet
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Strixx?

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I sold mine recently for 700

forest oasis
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700 is absolutely not the normal number

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max is like 500 prob

hot bough
forest oasis
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💀

hot bough
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Around $350-400 I'd say is a fair price.

lone pond
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Yeah that’s about what I’ve been seeing them for

forest oasis
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$300-400 is fairly common here on ebay

lone pond
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Saw a three fan Gigabyte one for $350

forest oasis
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and that's kinda strange because i'm in canada and the used market usually is pretty trash but like

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lmao

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(it's usually pretty trash because we have less people than just california)

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i have yet to see any tech listings from my town or any surrounding

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er, any good tech listings at least that were relevant to me

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everything is like 2-3 cities over lmfao

unreal elm
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just got rog strix 4090 is it dead already

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its not overclocked so i dont think it could be caused by any instability issues

rustic pulsar
# unreal elm

ddu, if its still broke RMA tim. i asume temps are fine?

unreal elm
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yeah never exceeds 60C

rustic pulsar
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,ddu

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.ddu

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!ddu

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ddu

unreal elm
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one thing i may try is putting it into another pc

rustic pulsar
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i swear we have a ddu command

unreal elm
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mine is vertically mounted and ive seen one issue where the riser cable caused artifacting

fringe scroll
neat ventureBOT
rustic pulsar
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ty

fringe scroll
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ofc

unreal elm
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i just have one more question, i can run heaven benchmark on extreme and no artifacts appear, is it possible for it to be an issue other than the gpu itself

oak rivet
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stock right

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that looks like a vram problem

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also had artifacts on mine when i tried to push over 1600+

unreal elm
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yeah its running stock, just finished cleaning with ddu and praying that it wont artifact again

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its the rog strix OC so i dont know if that overclock could be causing the problem

fringe scroll
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Imagine your mem being so crap that the factory oc artifacts

oak rivet
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They don't touch mem clocks only a few mhz bump on the core

unreal elm
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ive been looking online cause right now its only happening in rdr2 cutscenes and people are reporting similar issues, might be a game problem

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im just going to play around in high settings on another game and see if anything similar happens

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they have gone away after switching from direct x12 to vulkan. i dont know why but i am glad

oak rivet
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@unreal elm what cpu did you pair it with and what's your screen res

unreal elm
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Screen res is 4k, cpu is i9-9900k

keen nacelle
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Could also be cable, monitor port, monitor

limber flax
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Heaven is an outdated benchmark anyway

fringe scroll
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I like this better than the new one

hot folio
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Lol I forgot about that one

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How did you find that?

fringe scroll
oak rivet
solid glacier
keen nacelle
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what do you use the pc for

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if gaming none of that

vital oriole
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^

oak rivet
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64gb would not hurt

rustic pulsar
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for gaming it would be better to get 16gb sticks since it has slightly better timings

keen nacelle
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Unless they're running three demanding games at once 64gb is useless

rustic pulsar
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like 100+ mods

vital oriole
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32 is sweet spot

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no need for 64

solid glacier
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Hows this?

bold shuttle
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I am planning on getting an rtx 3060, i found one that is 1700 mhz and one that is 1800 mhz, is that such a difference that i should care about and pay extra?

keen nacelle
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You shouldn't care unless its the 8gb model vs the 12gb model, but either way odds are its super overpriced

bold shuttle
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is 270$ considered overpriced for 3060?

keen nacelle
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Yes

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6700 is $290 for a good bit better

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6650xt around $230-$250 for better performance

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Or 3060 ti at $330 for 30% better performance

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And if that's the 8gb 3060, far more than 30% better

bold shuttle
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I was thinking about a 3060 ti but its 8gb vs 3060 12gb

keen nacelle
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Even with the lesser vram it will age better

bold shuttle
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Thank you

solid glacier
vital oriole
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Fan profile is up to preference between perf or silence

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There's no "good" fan profile for anything, just something that works for you as long as you're not sacrificing perf

solid glacier
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oo okay i think this is good, not sure what my last was bc i updated my amd drivers and it reset lol

livid idol
vital oriole
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That's ddr5 ree

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I would also say odd capacities like 24gb per dimm are well, weird

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Cursed ram kekw

livid idol
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It does feel a bit weird

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But it also makes so much sense

vital oriole
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Not used to seeing stuff like these

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It's always been double the lesser number

livid idol
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48 is the perfect balance between high capacity and speed. Some people will actually use more than 32 but don't want the speed hit that 64 gets.

vital oriole
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ye I get that

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It's perfect

odd siren
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Give it 5 years

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💀

heady turtle
odd siren
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😭

heady turtle
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Ugh fineee

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I won't 5 years you

heady turtle
hot folio
odd siren
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Guys

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I can be one or the other

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Not both

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Or Australian

hot folio
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Being upside down all the time increases your growth rate

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Gravity just keeps pulling you down so you get stretched out

heady turtle
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It's like the reverse of what astornouts get

odd siren
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Astornouts

heady turtle
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Dhut

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Shut

odd siren
heady turtle
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Spelling hord

hot folio
odd siren
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Pato doesn't realise he's in the lion's den

hot folio
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Totally not watching anime instead of preparing for work

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Work in 20 minutes, still in bed

odd siren
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Wow

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I'd be up and running in at least 5 more minutes

hot folio
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It’s a 30 minute drive

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I can make it

heady turtle
odd siren
heady turtle
novel kestrel
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Nope just cheapest I've found in the UK either that or scan

novel kestrel
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its going to be paired with a 5800x3d

heady turtle
novel kestrel
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it does look nince that 7900xtx

hot folio
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XTX is so nice

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I love mine

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except for 💩 vram bin

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But that doesn’t matter to 99% of people

heady turtle
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It's also just luck of the draw

hot folio
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That too

fringe scroll
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?ddu

neat ventureBOT
fringe scroll
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Thanks egg

hot bough
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Yeah probably, xD.

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Can Radeon cards use DLSS?

fringe scroll
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no

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they have fsr

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and a new version of it coming soonish

hot bough
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How does FSR compare to DLSS?

fringe scroll
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Depends on the game but most of the time its worse

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but works on all cards

hot bough
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Gotcha.

livid idol
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Speed is the same mostly between DLSS and FSR but many games DLSS does look slightly better. You can usually only tell in freeze frames, though.

vital oriole
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^

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One thing it's missing is the frame gen, which is only available on 40 series and games that utilizes DLSS 3.x

hot bough
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Gotcha.

oak rivet
# hot bough How does FSR compare to DLSS?
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With how much better dlss can look in motion due to ghosting and such it competes with native most of the time rather then fsr

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Fsr is really a solution you use if the better alternative is just not there

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I wouldn't buy a 4060ti over a 6950xt as rough example for that tho kekw

lone pond
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yeah, realistically the gains at quality settings will probably still put raw performance well below that of a 6950xt (while also having half the memory), outside of DLSS 3 framegen which has questionable image quality imo

distant adder
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My friend has a 3060 ti and whenever he start a game and close it he gets a black screen and cant do anything. If he restarts everything go back to normal but after playing he get the black screen again

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We tried DDU but it didnt solve anything

odd siren
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Black screen permanently or just for a moment?

distant adder
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It blinks twice then goes off till he restarts his computer

keen nacelle
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What's the power supply

velvet grail
vapid plinth
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I’ve asked this a few times, and have gotten good opinions on it, it since y’all are talking about it I might as well ask

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3060 ti 8gb model vs 3060 12 gb model

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Im about to do a trade soon for either or

odd siren
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Trading what tho

vapid plinth
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Which card would be primarily better

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Im trading a 1660 ti and cash to make the difference

odd siren
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What are you tradint

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Ah ok

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How much cash

vapid plinth
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$100

odd siren
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100+ 1660ti for 3060ti?

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Or 3060 12gb

vapid plinth
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Either or @odd siren

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Apologies im at work rn

odd siren
vapid plinth
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Is the clock speeds worth the lack of ram?

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@odd siren

odd siren
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Clock speed? More like resale

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The faster card is worth more

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If you're choosing between both for the same equivalent exchange choose the one that's worth more

keen nacelle
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In cases where the 3060 ti would run out of vram, the 3060 would be hitting under 60 fps at the same settings in a lot of scenarios

vapid plinth
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Respectable. I appreciate the information

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@keen nacelle What about the performance increase of the 3060 in comparison to the 1660 ti? It was my previous card so I was just wondering if the performance jump will be noticeable

keen nacelle
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Yeah 3060 is better, just no point in taking the worse card for the same money. I'm not sure exactly what it is but I'd guess around 20-30%

lone pond
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^^^ thereabout. TPU's graph indicates more like 30-40, but it wasn't quite that much in my experience going from a 2060 to a 3060 (granted the 2060 is a wee bit faster than a 1660 ti, but meh)

vapid plinth
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I appreciate all the help fellas 🙏🏾

solid glacier
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My nephew is giving this and the connection is weak but he’s not hard wired

livid idol
solid glacier
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How do I check

livid idol
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Right click the wifi icon, network and internet settings, click the wifi, click the connection name

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It'll say under "IP assignment"

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If it's not DHCP then hit edit and switch manual to DHCP

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Same for the DNS server while you're there

solid glacier
livid idol
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Ok so then open an admin command prompt and enter
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew

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That'll ask the router for a new IP address

solid glacier
livid idol
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Wifi disconnected

solid glacier
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Yea

livid idol
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Poor signal issues are the likely cause

solid glacier
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From weak connection or

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Should I use Ethernet and try those commands or no

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His pc is in the basement and the router is upstairs

livid idol
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If you can use ethernet then do so because the wifi signal is too weak

solid glacier
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Yea we can but when the Pc is next to the routwr it’s still slow and weak

livid idol
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Oh you mean the wifi signal is weak even when it's in the same room as the router?

solid glacier
livid idol
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You might try a driver update in that case

solid glacier
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Like Gpu driver or

livid idol
# solid glacier

If the signal is too weak to associate to the router then it'll think that it has the wrong key

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Wifi driver

solid glacier
livid idol
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Is it the one built into the motherboard or what?

solid glacier
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Gpu or WiFi

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It has antennas on the back for the connections

livid idol
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Asrock B450m AC, ok I'll grab that driver

solid glacier
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Bet thx

livid idol
solid glacier
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Got it it fixed it

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Thx

solid glacier
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Whats a good screen cleaner

lone pond
livid idol
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Windex sprayed on a cloth is what I typically use

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Finer cloth leaves less streaks

hasty sphinx
livid idol
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Gotta get that 1000 thread count undergarment or nothing

solid glacier
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should this be on low or medium

vital oriole
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Doesn't matter

solid glacier
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Is there a way to check if my ssd is working correctly

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I feel like it isnt

vital oriole
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Crystaldiskinfo

solid glacier
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this..

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?

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or this

solid glacier
vital oriole
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The second pic is the benchmark

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First pic is the one you want

solid glacier
vital oriole
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Everything is fine then

solid glacier
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so they all say good

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isnt there a test i can run?

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Isnt this crystaldisk only showing the health? like notshowing if its working correctly

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So that means my ssd is plugged in correctly and functioning correctly if my heatlh status says 100% good

livid idol
solid glacier
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oh

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This good

livid idol
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That's the right app, hit "all" and let it run

solid glacier
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Ight cool, now I shall wait

livid idol
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It's done when "stop" on the buttons goes away

solid glacier
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Ight ty, hopefully it runs fine

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I think I’m gonna factory reset for j csn remove my d drive and not use a debloated windows 11 anymore

wooden fern
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I just built my friend a pc but as soon as I installed Nvidia drivers, the monitor is stuck on no signal and it has been about 30 minutes, I can still hear the song I had playing

livid idol
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Hold the power button and see if signal comes back when it reboots

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If not boot into safe mode and run DDU

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?ddu

neat ventureBOT
hot bough
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How well does a 6950xt work in productivity apps such as Adobe Premier, Blender, etc?

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It's becoming quite tempting.

odd siren
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XTX would run premiere well

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But blender is nvidia territory

fading glacier
hot bough
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Ooof I just noticed. Just looked up benchmarks and even a 7900xtx sucks in blender.

odd siren
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Ravellllll

fading glacier
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yo felix, quite the time 😛

odd siren
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Where you beeeeeen

hot bough
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Get's it's arse whopped by a 3080.

fading glacier
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you know, family and such, lurking here and there 😛

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stealing memes

odd siren
hot bough
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Is $499 for a new 10GB 3080 decent?

hot bough
odd siren
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New? Not bad

hot bough
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found this on amazon.

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3080 performms around 30% faster then a 3070 right?

odd siren
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Could be worth the gamble

fading glacier
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are you sure you want to commit to a 3080 10g from a 3070?

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since like a low jump to me

odd siren
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Also yeah that

hot bough
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Mhmmm, that's the question I keep asking myself.

odd siren
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Not the greatest improvement

hot bough
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My system is really starting to show it's wear (not because vram).

fading glacier
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well a 3080 is not the greatest jump for 500usd

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you could end with a sligthly faster 3070 but 500usd less on your pocket

hot bough
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Only hitting about 100 fps in most games and as low as 50 in games such as The Isle which is very gpu intensive.

odd siren
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Used 3080 for 420 would be better

hot bough
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yes, 100fps feels choppy to me.

odd siren
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Then flip the 3070 for 300-ish

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That would be worth it

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The scaling is somewhat relative

hot bough
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Mhmmm, I will definitely consider that route.

odd siren
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Reason I say that is new nvidia is just

hot bough
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What would be a decent upgrade over a 3070?

odd siren
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For a good 10 months now?

hot bough
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Nvidia.

odd siren
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Terrible value new

fading glacier
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a 4070 at the very least

odd siren
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4070 is a 3080 10gb

fading glacier
odd siren
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Like 1 to 1

fading glacier
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true

hot bough
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How far away is Blackwell estimated currently?

odd siren
fading glacier
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blackwell is just a rumor for now

hot bough
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My Birthday is coming up in September so I can haggle to split the costs 50/50 with my father ona 4090 class card.

vital oriole
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Q4 2023 earliest but I doubt that is happening

odd siren
fading glacier
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what happened with your 4090/13900k plans btw?

odd siren
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Even tho it's meh for blender

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It's great for most of anything else

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It's not impossible to use on blender either it still works

hot bough
fading glacier
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:(\

hot bough
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Vet, planes, house moving, etc.

fading glacier
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heck even safi scored a 4090, good for him

vital oriole
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I want 7600S myself, but it falls behind so hard in blender compared to even 4050

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Not that I care anyway, blender isn't my use case

hot bough
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I need Nvidia for blender.

odd siren
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I want a 7600 and a 5700xt

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Then I've used all rdna

fading glacier
vital oriole
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Imma only use rdna 3 kekw

odd siren
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Dude the 6900 is awesome

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It's so quiet

vital oriole
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rdna 1 on laptop practically didn't exist

odd siren
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1440p 240 in it's sleep

vital oriole
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outside of the crappy 5500m

hot bough
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Guess I will wait till my Birthday in september and score myself a 4090 by splitting the costs 50/50.

odd siren
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340W and it's running games better than a 3090

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Like super pog

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Undervolted it's probably gonna do it even faster

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And it's a breeze in cad

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Had a lot of fun yesterday

hot bough
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Does the 7700x perform better then a 5950x in single threaded perf?

odd siren
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Ye

hot bough
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Gotcha.

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Cause my system is feelin a rather slow in Modded MC so I was wondering on a cpu upgrade.

oak rivet
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Zen4 is a good leap just overshadowed during release because of the 3090ti kekw

livid idol
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7700 non-x comes with a cooler that works fine and has the same performance as the x model

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I'm waiting until 8000 at a minimum to upgrade. I never buy the first gen of a new platform as an all purpose rule.

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Rumor has it there's a 25% performance bump per core after IPC and clock improvements.

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Meanwhile Intel couldn't get MTL ready and stable with their new chiplet tile design so 14th gen is supposed to be RPL refreshed. Big OOF.

oak rivet
livid idol
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1080p gaming could

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And hey maybe we'd finally get a CPU that can keep up with the 4090 at 1440p

oak rivet
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That is called a 7800x3d tbh

livid idol
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That helps in a lot of games but not all

odd siren
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It's not omnipotent with a 4090 no

oak rivet
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Squeezes like 80% or more out of it all the time

livid idol
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80% isn't 100%

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That's exactly where the extra 25% boost would be beneficial

oak rivet
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But in hindsight my 10400f squeezed everything out of a 3080ti

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At 1440p

odd siren
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That 20% is the difference between xtx and 4090

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$700

oak rivet
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Maybe in raster only titles kekw

odd siren
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If I pay for fps I want my fps 💀

livid idol
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Here's a very real scenario. 4k native screen, DLSS quality on. It's rendering in 1080p. CPU can't keep up.

oak rivet
livid idol
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No you're right it's performance that was 1080p

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Quality is exactly 2560x1440

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CPU still can't keep up

oak rivet
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Like here got 11% left in the tank

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Can't complain about over 200fps tho kekw

livid idol
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No but you could definitely complain about this. (bars are 5% max, average, and 1% low)

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When your 1440p average fps is the same as 1080p

oak rivet
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Seems like avg star citizen

livid idol
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Needs moar CPU

oak rivet
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Wonder what the power reading was

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7800x3d probably was using less then half the 13900k in power draw

livid idol
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Doesn't say in the vid, just has utilization graphs

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1440p the 4090 regularly dipped below 60% util

oak rivet
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Holy 💩kekw

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I wonder what fps I will get

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Seems like I have to buy the game

fading glacier
oak rivet
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Digital foundry is showing the 3600 dips below 30 in the busy town areas

livid idol
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You get the full console experience without any of the benefits!

hot bough
quasi flicker
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Any 4070s that I should stay away from?

vital oriole
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Basically yes

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Anything nvidia 40 series lower than 4070 should be ignored

quasi flicker
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Why

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I meant any, not and

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The $200 jump from non-Ti to Ti is why I say 4070

lone pond
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if you're looking at a 4070, just get a 6800 xt and enjoy near 4070 ti performance for less money tbh

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they're like $400 used now PES_SadShrug

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wait no, it was the 6950 xt that was 4070 ti perf

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either way, 6800 xt is faster than a 4070 for less

keen nacelle
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^

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Or 6950xt for the same price as 4070

#

Or used 3080/6900xt/6950xt/6800xt

livid idol
hot bough
livid idol
#

Yes

hot bough
#

gotcha.

quasi flicker
#

That's the only reason I'm still getting an NVIDIA GPU

lone pond
#

used $3090's are like $600. if your workloads benefit from cuda, the probably benefit from vram too. a 3090 is faster than a 4070 and double the memory, for a very similar price used

quasi flicker
#

Isn't the power draw a lot more?

#

350W TDP

#

Yikes

lone pond
# quasi flicker 350W TDP

you can undervolt them to like 230w and maintain equal performance if you crank the memory slider a smidge

glad solar
#

I have an i7-8700 CPU with 64gb ddr4 3600 ram. i'm wanting to upgrade my GPU. Question is, if I get a 4000 series Intel or a 7000 series Radeon will the CPU be to slow for the higher end GPU. Thanks, Richard

keen nacelle
#

Are you gaming, or do you actually utilize that 64gb with workstation tasks

#

And what is your budget for upgrading

rustic pulsar
#

if you live near a microcenter they often have REALLY NICE bundle deals for a new cpu, ram, and motherboard

glad solar
#

Thinking about the 4090 or the 7900 xtx . I use 3D CAD software and do some gaming

hot folio
#

What CAD softwares?

glad solar
#

AutoCad Gimp Photoshop

keen nacelle
#

4090 would probably be ideal, odds are amd does much worse in the workstation tasks you do

glad solar
#

would there be a botttleneck with the CPU performance I also have a Corsair 1000w PSU

keen nacelle
#

Yes, but thats fine tbh

#

Can just upgrade down the line

#

I'd say either keep ram and go 13th gen, or get new ram and go 7950x if you have the money down the line if you need multi core performance for your workstation tasks

#

On the other hand

#

Basically half the price of a 4090

glad solar
#

im sort of limited my CPU is 300 series chipset i should bite the bullet and get a new motherboard

keen nacelle
#

Since some people don't know just saying this, you have to upgrade your cpu and motherboard at the same time

#

In some cases technichally no, just stupid not to

#

Since upgrading mobo alone would very rarely yield any benefit

#

In your case, would be stupid to buy another 8th gen motherboard since it would still be limited to the same cpus

#

13th gen does lose performance on ddr4 though

glad solar
#

yeah that was a given 🙂 be nice to go from 8 core to 24

keen nacelle
#

64gb of ddr5 is expensive however

glad solar
#

thanks bye.

keen nacelle
keen nacelle
#

Np?

lone pond
#

That was anti climatic

keen nacelle
#

Just weird

hazy steeple
#

question

#

Am i able to put a 40 series gpu in a msi b550 A pro motherboard or is that restricted to only 30 series?

hazy steeple
#

hmmmmm

#

i wondering if its worth popping open my case again even though its a pain in the butt to put back together

lone pond
#

if it's a GPU it should only be a matter of popping the side panel off, unplugging the GPU, and slotting your new one in? not much rebuilding involved

#

unless you have a custom loop ig

keen nacelle
hazy steeple
#

and i really dont feel like buying a new case and putting everything back together

#

so if i wanted to upgrade to a 40 series id probly have to upgrade my case which in turn means ill have to wait till i feel like i need it lmao

#

i have a 360mm aio in there which is said to fit in said case. i struggled more putting that thing in the case than putting anything else in there

grizzled nimbus
#

a 360mm aio is a lot bigger than a typical gpu lol

keen nacelle
#

And what aio

hazy steeple
#

Phanteks Eclipse G360A

#

DeepCool LS720 WH Premium Liquid CPU Cooler, Intel LGA 1700/1200/115x AMD AM5/AM4, 360mm Radiator

keen nacelle
#

Budget for gpu upgrade?

#

And current psu model and wattage?

hazy steeple
#

750 watt gold plus

keen nacelle
#

What model

hazy steeple
#

ill have to dig to find what the model is one sec

keen nacelle
#

Like Thermaltake gf1, evga g6, etc

#

Ah kk take your time

hazy steeple
#

and budget doesnt really matter cause itll be a bit before i really do buy

#

it was definitely a thermaltake

#

i just cant seem to find the right one

grizzled nimbus
#

that does not strike joy

keen nacelle
#

Gf1?

hazy steeple
#

is there a way to check through your pc?

grizzled nimbus
#

no

keen nacelle
#

I really hope it's not the Thermaltake smart

#

No

grizzled nimbus
#

TG smart gold is ok iirc

vital oriole
#

ye

keen nacelle
#

Oh wait you're right

#

It's gold so it's not the fire hazard one

hazy steeple
#

yeah i was smart to actually check the tier list of psu's before buying

keen nacelle
#

Oh that's good

vital oriole
#

That's fine then

keen nacelle
#

Do yk what tier it is?

#

That would be fine

hazy steeple
#

i had someone tell me it was a bad psu and i had to check lmao

keen nacelle
#

As long as it's B or A it's fine, if it's C it'd be OK for a 4070, anything lower I would replace before anything else

vital oriole
#

C tier is perfectly fine tbh, 4070 sips power

hazy steeple
#

if i had to say it was like C or B somewhere in between there

keen nacelle
#

C is fine just wouldn't run a 4070 ti or 7900xt on a C tier psu for the sake of peace of mind

vital oriole
#

4070ti is also fine lol

#

very fine

keen nacelle
vital oriole
#

it doesn't touch 200w in games

keen nacelle
#

If you can see there

keen nacelle
vital oriole
#

ada is efficient

#

pricing sucks but ye

keen nacelle
#

I knew it was efficient but thats crazy

#

3090 perf at power comparable to my 3060 ti

vital oriole
#

lol ya

hazy steeple
#

which would require me to open my case to look and thats too much work for rn lmao i need to find the tier list

keen nacelle
#

Jesus 4070 ti pricing sucks still

keen nacelle
vital oriole
#

yap

#

firmly 800

keen nacelle
#

I've been told the xtx is hungry power wise

vital oriole
#

it's ok but c tier not really gonna trust it lmao

keen nacelle
#

But have drivers and newer revs helped?

vital oriole
#

no

keen nacelle
#

Ah

vital oriole
#

idle yes but not load power

#

rdna 3 scales like this

keen nacelle
#

Could always uv or pl if needed, if it's a good unit it should be fine

vital oriole
#

you need to force it lots of watts for it to go very fast

keen nacelle
vital oriole
#

but it does get efficient at more modest gpus

#

like 7600S is a 95w laptop gpu

#

but it can touch 3070 desktop in some games

hazy steeple
#

it mightve been like the pro rgb thermaltake

keen nacelle
#

Foxy I have a crazy migraine would you mind helping skeez?

hazy steeple
#

or the gf1

vital oriole
#

Sure

keen nacelle
#

G360a, ls720 aio

#

So just gotta check gpu clearance (330mm?) And rad+ fan thickness

#

Ty

vital oriole
#

Then I guess gpu should be like 300mm, hm

keen nacelle
#

Wait g360a isn't 330mm I lied

#

Its 400

hazy steeple
#

well as i said there is going to be a time where i upgrade my case which might come with the gpu when i buy it cause im not gonna wannt to stretch the case i have now, any further

vital oriole
#

Deepcool says the aio+fans is 25mm thick

#

oh nah

#

it's 27mm for rad

#

25 for fans

keen nacelle
#

Well, you'd be fine with 340mm gpu which is what that 6950xt is

vital oriole
#

^

#

340mm will be fine

keen nacelle
#

3090 ti/4070 ti/7900xt performance

vital oriole
#

don't go above 340

#

it'll get tight

#

but tbh 340 is big anyway lol

keen nacelle
#

Ok now I'm out, feels like someone's stabbing a knife in my ears

vital oriole
#

Take care bacca

hazy steeple
#

i have a 3070ti in it rn and its pretty close to the glass on my case but thats with the connections on the gpu pointing out a bit due to the thickness of the wires

solid glacier
#

Intel Arc A750 Limited Edition 8GB PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card 21P02J00BA this is the card my friend bought lol

#

iv never even heard of that

lone pond
#

I've been considering getting one for my collection

#

but $200 for something I'll pretty much never use is a bit much

solid glacier
#

Its as strong as a 3060 ig?

#

accoridng to him

lone pond
solid glacier
#

Thinking about selling my 6900xt and getting a 7900xtx but im not sure if a 7900xt would work with my system

lone pond
#

why not?

solid glacier
#

Might have to get a better cpu

#

i got the i7 12700KF

lone pond
#

it's a fine chip for an XTX unless you want to play competitive csgo on it for whatever reason

#

or minecraft ig. but outside of edge cases like that it's a solid combination

#

and realistically, you probably won't notice the difference between 600 and 650FPS in those games going with a 7950x3D or a 13900k lol

keen nacelle
#

Seconded

solid glacier
#

for warzone im gettin it for most likely bc i would get way more fps

keen nacelle
#

12700kf perfectly fine with an xtx

solid glacier
#

oh ight cool im good then

#

just gatta sell my card

keen nacelle
#

Warzone might be cpu limited actually, if you care enough

#

13600k was hitting high usage when paired with a 3060 ti at 1440p for me

#

But id just game as is, see what happens

#

If its not satisfactory, then upgrade

#

If it is, don't worry about it

lone pond
#

^
if you're maxing out your monitor anyway then it doesn't matter too much. iirc 12700k still puts out a lot of FPS in that game

solid glacier
#

i think i get low fps for my sysetm and not sure why i do for like warzone im missing 50 fps somehow loll

lone pond
#

what ram are you using?

#

capacity, speed, primary timings (or just CL tbh)

solid glacier
#

well its not OC besides the x profile on bios G.SKills ripjaws v series 3600mhz

lone pond
#

you're certain you have XMP on?

solid glacier
#

mhm

lone pond
#

dual channel?

solid glacier
#

Uh like 2 seperate slots? yea there 2 16gb sticks

lone pond
#

not just two slots. they need to be set up so that there is a slot separating them (or just two slots if your board only has two dimm slots)

solid glacier
#

thats how they are rn

lone pond
#

hmm, dunno then. you can try turning resizable bar on/off and see if that does anything

#

outside of that I'm not too sure. could be worth doing a bit of troubleshooting if you think your system is underperforming

#

or just throw money at it with an XTX I suppose, although I don't recommend that :P

solid glacier
#

yea lolll

#

i had to switch to 1440p bc i was cpu bottle necked and it helped it somewhat bc i was orignally on 1080p

oak rivet
#

comparing to my friend 4080 its faster but a bit smaller aswell

lone pond
#

It’s not about size, it’s about how you use it

fringe scroll
#

Words of wisdom

odd siren
#

Yep, Danny would know

fringe scroll
hot folio
fringe scroll
#

CHILL

odd siren
#

Would he be the one usi-

#

Alright I'll chill

hot folio
#

But I won’t

hot folio
odd siren
solid glacier
#

when i save my amd profiles OC where do they go i cant find them

#

%Should i change this? whenevr i start a game my fans ramp up very fast and i dont thnk its supose to be doing that lol

#

changed it to this

warm belfry
#

What gpu should I get with a budget of 800-1200

livid idol
livid idol
#

RE4 is included too

warm belfry
#

My only issue with the amd cards right now are the driver issues

livid idol
#

What driver issues

#

The ones that were resolved 2-3 years ago?

lone pond
#

^

#

I've heard RDNA 3 still has some problems with VR, but something like 2% of steam users have a HMD so it's probably a nonissue

#

assuming it hasn't been worked out by now

livid idol
#

VR problems are game dependent, but in general it should work better, partially thanks to more memory on AMD

lone pond
#

VR problems as in headsets randomly not working/failing to detect

#

the games run well when they run

#

but sometimes they simply won't/wouldn't run

#

dunno if it's been fixed tho. I rock RDNA 2 and haven't touched my headset in months

solid glacier
livid idol
#

Huh

solid glacier
#

can i dm u it idk if it leaks anything

livid idol
#

Any idea what app crashed? Also that pic has your username

solid glacier
#

apex but it didnt crash

livid idol
#

You can dm that file to me and I'll see what happened when I get back to my PC

solid glacier
#

bet ty

teal cairn
velvet grail
#

I really need help, beamng drive crashes on my pc basically every time and every 20-30 minutes and it's impossible to play the game this way. Doesn't matter what version, it's been over one year and I've changed at least 6 version, always crashes with the same gpu error (it's not overclocked & undervolted but perfectly stable), crashes even if afterburner is closed. What could be the reason? What can I do to solve this...?

#

I've also reinstalled the game a bunch of times and deleted every single beamng drive file

oak rivet
#

What is your cpu and gpu temps like

#

Also monitor vram and system ram usage

oak rivet
#

It loses to 3060 in vram heavy situations expected really

velvet grail
#

Ram & vram usage are fine, vram sometimes gets to 7800mb

#

Only in certain maps

random walrus
#

Nvidia learned from the 3060 I guess. Lots of budget Nvidia fans who are willing to buy xx60 tier card for stupid prices

random walrus
lone pond
#

yeah, it's like 7% at 1440p RT off lmao

#

but remember if you live in germany and buya 4060, you can save $132 in energy cost over the course of 4 years when upgrading from an RTX 3060 to an RTX 4060 pepexplode

#

what value

solid glacier
livid idol
#

Because it's gone now

solid glacier
#

oh

#

crap

#

i would buy a used one on hardware but there selling it for the price of a new one

livid idol
#

The deal was posted here on the 24th, I'm surprised it lasted this long

oak rivet
#

No matter how someone dices it gpus below 3080 perf tier are solely for 1080p

livid idol
oak rivet
#

Also the fact this will happen 💀

vital oriole
#

vram moment

livid idol
#

The 3070/6750 do 1440p fairly well right now, just not on ultra

vital oriole
#

nah it's not doing well if it ain't ultra/max

oak rivet
#

6750xt sure that's a decent 1440p card

livid idol
#

I know you can inject newer DLSS versions into games that have it, does that work for 3.0? I'd think no but idk

sacred cargo
#

Hey guys, I'm looking to move on from my ancient 1060 3gb to something in the $250-300 range (system is 5800x, 16GB, 550w Seasonic). Looking to play Armored Core, GoW and go back to Elden Ring when the expansion comes out (I played it on 30fps, go figure lmao)

keen nacelle
#

6700 for $280 if that's too much

livid idol
#

Really? That could be a game changer (pun intended)

oak rivet
#

You can't replace dlss 2 file with 3 and expect to run frame gen with non 40 series tho

livid idol
#

Well yeah I figured 3.0 fg was hard coded to work only with 40 series

vital oriole
#

rtx remix makes injecting dlss easier on older games

oak rivet
#

Soo games with frame gen can only get better if a savvy user keeps it updated from tpu database

#

Tim from hwub showed how the flickering with frame gen went away when he used the latest dlss 3 dll from tpu

sacred cargo
livid idol
#

So you can update the dlss 2.x games to 3.x right? I just want to be clear

keen nacelle
#

6700xt if you can afford it though would be nice

#

6700 has 10gb vram iirc, which could come in useful

sacred cargo
#

gotcha! will try to hunt for those. Thanks a bunch!

keen nacelle
oak rivet
livid idol
#

Ok see that's what I meant to start with, I figured that it needed more than just a dll update

sacred cargo
#

lovely, thank you so much!

keen nacelle
#

Doesn't let me remove embeds on mobile

#

Happy to help

livid idol
keen nacelle
#

Ty

oak rivet
livid idol
#

In the future you can surround your links with <> and it won't embed

keen nacelle
#

Oh cool, I'll have to remember that

wicked hound
# livid idol So you can update the dlss 2.x games to 3.x right? I just want to be clear

D3 is D2 API + more API functions. So first problem is that game won't ever call D3 functions. The next issue is speculation, but looks like one needs to customise the graphics pipeline for D3 to work okay-ish let alone well (mostly going based off UI issues from launch, plus the fact that outputted frames have to seemingly be decoupled from render thread).

wheat crag
#

What would the apple 10core m2 gpu raw performance be equivalent too?

livid idol
#

It's about a 2050 mobile or 5500M

livid idol
#

It may not be all that impressive for raw power but it's efficiency is great

#

Desktop nearest equivalent would be a 1050 ti I think

solid glacier
#

my rainbow six siege game keep freakin crashing for no reason

cerulean rover
#

vulcan or dx11?

brisk flame
#

either

#

dog ass game, devs cant write functional code

solid glacier
#

Whats vulcan? dx12?

brisk flame
#

vulcan is vulcan

#

speedier rendering api

#

more efficient, cuts corners here and there

livid idol
#

Vulkan API has a lot of the same features as DX12 but more efficient yeah

solid glacier
#

should i use vulkan then instead of dx12

brisk flame
#

whichever doesnt crash

#

betting both do

solid glacier
#

well i verfied the files again didnt crash again

#

crap

#

it isnt popping up the optuon for vukkan or regular anymore

cerulean rover
#

Are you launching through steam

solid glacier
#

Yea

cerulean rover
#

Look in properties

solid glacier
#

Got it ty brotha

cerulean rover
#

There's a drop down for which option you chose on launch

lofty sierra
#

got a question, which type of graphics card do I need to get for a Gigabyte B450M H motherboard?

#

I'm looking for a dual HDMI Card

lofty sierra
#

there were mini cards and more full length ones

keen nacelle
#

what are you using the pc for

lofty sierra
#

I haven't built a PC from the ground up since the early 2000s

keen nacelle
#

what psu and cpu do you have

#

or have you not bought anything or have only some components

lofty sierra
#

Ryzen 7

keen nacelle
#

there's a lot of ryzen 7s

#

1700x, 1800x, 3700x, 3800x, 5700x, 5800x, 5800x3d

lofty sierra
#

the tower is touted as a gaming PC. I use it both for games and work

#

I get gaming laptop's & PC's bc they are more durable, higher end, and last longer in general

#

4700G 4Ghz, sorry....

keen nacelle
#

have you already bought it?

lofty sierra
#

yes, been using it for a while now looking at upgrading RAM from 16-32gb, got memory settled, just got to get the graphics card nailed down

keen nacelle
#

ah alright

#

what power supply?

#

and what is your budget for a new gpu?

lofty sierra
#

I believe it's a 450 watt PS

#

Preferrably no more than $160-$250

#

found an MSI one on NewEgg, but wasn't sure if it would work or not. it had 4gb DDR5 RAM on board

lofty sierra
#

would take up 2 slots on back of tower

keen nacelle
#

lowest I'd go

fringe scroll
keen nacelle
#

yeah I like it

#

Much nicer than white strix

#

kek

fringe scroll
#

fr

lofty sierra
#

i'm looking for something with 2x HDMI ports

#

1st one won't work

#

6650

keen nacelle
#

neither will that 6600

#

though you could run one monitor from gpu, one from igpu

#

I'm doing two from gpu, one on my igpu right now, side monitors don't need to run off of the actual gpu, since nothing intensive gets run on them for most people (if you're an exception, I'll link a two hdmi gpu in a sec)

lofty sierra
#

I have 2x 29" 4k HDMI curved monitors

lofty sierra
#

Just ordered the last one you posted. You Gentlemen ROCK!! Have a great weekend!!

keen nacelle
#

likewise!

solid glacier
#

Not sure why my mic isnt working in rainbow its the only game where it isnt working lol

keen nacelle
#

Make sure it's set as the default mic both in game and in windows

solid glacier
#

yea they are

#

only game that it doesnt work

#

in

balmy magnet
#

anyone have any exp w/ buying on Jawa?

keen nacelle
zinc patio
#

7900xtx or 4080?

lone pond
oak rivet
#

For vr you avoid rdna3 kekw

lone pond
#

pretty sure they just put out an update addressing those issues. idk how sweeping it is tho, or if it was only aimed at a few specific titles

odd siren
zinc patio
#

okay is just gonna do streamings, playing games and use it for designing and editing videos

odd siren
#

Both will work fine for that

#

But if you have blender you might consider a used 4080

#

New price just isn't worth it ever

lone pond
#

used 4080? people are selling their 4080's already?

odd siren
#

Yes

#

Even if they didn't, I'd wait for one

oak rivet
#

For the 4090 I would presume

fringe scroll
fading glacier
#

ppl already selling used 40 series card? for real?

heady turtle
fringe scroll
#

Yeah lol

fading glacier
#

yeah the only reason i see behind that is for emergency money issues or travel

#

true, the 40 series is way overpriced, but if you somehow get your hands on one it will serve you for the next 5 years no problem

fringe scroll
#

No you must have the highest end gpu you can get your hands on as soon as they release

fading glacier
#

thats true, all of us practice that

fringe scroll
#

No 💀

#

Not all of us

#

Please

#

Lmfao

fading glacier
#

you dont aim for the best gpu you can get?

fringe scroll
#

I'm using a 1070ti

fading glacier
#

that doesnt answer my question

fringe scroll
#

At 1440pSCHIZO

fringe scroll
fading glacier
#

you aim or you dont for the highest gpu you can get?

fringe scroll
#

I dont

#

I have a 1070ti

#

Bruh

fading glacier
#

you are confused with two different things, one is how high you can aim, and other is how doable is for your wallet

#

i aim for the best, but my wallet doesnt allow it most of the time

#

one should always aim for the best gpu one can get and starting from there you reach the one that fit into your wallet/uses

oak rivet
#

Yup reminds me of the times I had my 2070super

fringe scroll
#

I started it as a joke because there's been people who keep buying brand new gpus just because well they're new😭

odd siren
#

You guys are off on some weird tangent kekw

fringe scroll
#

Yeah im mad confused

#

💀

fading glacier
#

ikr xD

#

off on some weird multiverse

#

man i want to kick myself for missing that ddr5 chance yesterday

odd siren
#

They haven't shipped anything yet

#

Fingers crossed I get the deal

fading glacier
#

im pretty sure they will honor the deal

normal hawk
heady turtle
hot bough
#

You can usually bring a desktop on a plane with you for around $100

hot folio
solid glacier
#

thinking abotu getting no man sk y

livid idol
#

It's gotten really good. They upped the frequency of saving which was my major complaint.

forest oasis
#

without changing psu

#

with a significant enough improvement from the igpu

livid idol
#

Just about anything is an improvement over the igpu lol

forest oasis
#

hmmm alright

solid glacier
#

Bro I don’t get why my mic doesn’t work for rainbow lol

forest oasis
#

this isn't the peripherals channel lmao but set your mic as default ig

#

i don't play r6s but eh

rugged thunder
#

Having a bit of an issue

#

My GPU has a red light at the back when I turn it on, wasn't here earlier

balmy magnet
rugged thunder
#

Alright I'll try that

#

Tried again

#

Didn't fix it

balmy magnet
#

maybe someone else has a diff idea, sorry that did not work

rugged thunder
#

Now my CPU light came on

#

Rip

balmy magnet
#

wait, the GPU and CPU light on mobo?

rugged thunder
#

Well, red light on the GPU on the back

#

And the CPU light on the mobo

#

Idk why

#

I assume

#

This isn't good

#

None of the GPU pins are damaged from what I can see

keen nacelle
vital oriole
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It's just a clip

rugged thunder
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Alright

vital oriole
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The screws on gpu bracket will keep it secured

rugged thunder
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Checked the CPU, and no bent pins and it sits correctly

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So idk why the light comes on

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I have the 8 pin cable

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PSU should be able to handle it and the GPU

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Would it be bios related? I was running a 5600 before

vital oriole
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Which cpu is in rn

rugged thunder
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5800x3D

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Would that need a bios update?

vital oriole
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yep

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that explains it

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update bios pls

rugged thunder
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Damn

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Lemme see if I have a USB stick

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Really hope i do

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Very dumb question, could you use your phone for that flash bios thing?

vital oriole
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uhh

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yes

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but make sure the file manager can edit file name and extension

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rar should do the job i believe

rugged thunder
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Alright

livid idol
rugged thunder
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Rip

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Oh right