graphics-cards

[coral nexus]

Website for msi, says 6900 xt trio recommend a 850watt psu

[lone pond]

max it out as in pump the power limit and whatnot to max out the clock sliders. not as in run it at 100% usage

yeah ofc. but if you're purchasing for 3080 performance, then you can purchase the lower end card for less and still get it

I don't understand your point. it seems you're just being contrary for some odd reason

[oak rivet]

6800xt is still less

[lone pond]

and 6800 is even less than that

[oak rivet]

Hell 6950xt is

[lone pond]

so again, what's the point

[oak rivet]

Yeah it's just idiotic to count oc in buying decision only out of the box matters

[lone pond]

that's idiotic when every card will overclock to the next tier up lol

why pay more when you can pay less for guaranteed performance

it's asinine to only include out of box performance when (pretty much) every 6800 ever produced is going to overclock to >3080 raster performance

with 30 seconds of tuning no less lol. you literally just open MPT, plug in some massive number for the gfx PL and current limit, set voltage up by 50-75mv, then max out the clock sliders in the adrenaline software

[coral nexus]

So I’d need to upgrade psu, correct?

[ancient crystal]

enjoy your space heater

years and years ago i had an overclocked 7950

er, HD7950

different.

and i overclocked it in roughly the same way

[lone pond]

what card are you buying?

[coral nexus]

6800 atm under 500, but if 6800xt / 6900xt can work I’ll do that.

[lone pond]

it's 250w to 330w, so like an 80w difference. hardly negligible, but also only like a 20% increase in heat for an entire system

[coral nexus]

I have a 650 evga psu gold +80

Website for msi 6900xt trio says I need at least 850 psu, so that’s confusing.

[ancient crystal]

no, you;'re supposed to actually collect 850 PSUs

[lone pond]

evga makes some banger and some dreadful gold rated 650w units, but if it's a decent one it should be fine unless you have an i9 or something. your typica r5 5600 or whatever system and a 6800/xt is going to be fine on a decent 650w. I forget how much power the 6900 xt uses, so my apologies on that

[oak rivet]

The power consumption tops out at 350w for rdna2 iirc

[lone pond]

yeah should be plenty if it's a good unit then

[fading glacier]

wrong statement

try oc a 3060 to a 3060ti level or a 60ti to a 3070 level

you cant

[lone pond]

when every 6800* will. contextually it's the same statement mate

obviously not every SKU OC's to the next SKU up

that was never the claim

[fading glacier]

oc can net you everything between 5-10% more perf

silicon lottery

[cerulean rover]

What was this about lol

[lone pond]

cool story, but every 6800 ever reaches the same clocks if you juice it, so yeah-

[fading glacier]

thats why safi said that oc is not taken into account on a buying decision

[fading glacier]

ikr

[lone pond]

it should be when every card of a given SKU does the same clock speeds which happen to net it the same performance of a card an SKU up

[fading glacier]

same clocl speed doesnt mean same performance

you need to take sm into consideration as well, bus width, etc

[lone pond]

mate

what are you on about

[cerulean rover]

6800 is great, you can leave it at that tbh

[fading glacier]

usually every tier up net more compute units to work, even if they have the same clock speed, one have more units than the other

[lone pond]

every 6800 will overclock to > 3080 performance... you misunderstand what I'm saying so let me lay it out in basic steps

1. every 6800 has the same shader count as every other 6800

2. every 6800 has an arbitrary 2600mhz core clock limit

3. every 6800 can and will hit that 2600mhz limit if you juice it

4. at that 2500-2600 limit (just adrenaline things™️) it performs better than a 3080 provided you max out the memory slider as well

5. basically every Navi 2 card with a limited memory clock slider can max out the 2150mhz limit with fast timings enabled

[fading glacier]

[cerulean rover]

A sku up of a 6800 is a 6800xt

With 4608 instead of 3840

[lone pond]

in the AMD product stack, sure. if you look at both stacks the 3080 is next

which is the card I was comparing to

[cerulean rover]

What

[oak rivet]

which is also like a 6800xt? lol

[lone pond]

6800 xt is a wee bit faster anyway, but I digress. I can send you a 3dmark run of my 6800 running the same clocks every other 6800 hits doing within margin of error of the average and median 6800 xt scores

which happens to be a faster card than a 3080. so it is in fact doing > 3080 performance

[oak rivet]

since when 3d mark representitive of gaming fps

[cerulean rover]

Unless you consider 3080 oced...?

[lone pond]

it's not, but when comparing cards of the same architecture it's solid

[lone pond]

sure, but that wasn't my argument. I was ONLY saying that a 6800 can reach 3080 performance, and that all 6800's can. nothing else. stop trying to force words into my mouth

[cerulean rover]

It cannot reach any 3080 performance, it can be overclocked to similar performance to a stock 3080 in some titles

3080s can also be overclocked further

[lone pond]

cool story, but I have a 6800 doing > 3080 stock performance soooo

[oak rivet]

i would like fps numbers in a game

[cerulean rover]

And bleach probably has a 3080 doing 20% better

[lone pond]

cool, that's not stock performance tho

so again, irrelevant to my claim

[cerulean rover]

Clarify your claim

[lone pond]

practically every 6800 can reach > 3080 stock performance in raster on average (albeit by a thin margin) provided you juice it

[cosmic bluff]

Bet

[cerulean rover]

On average is the part that I disagree with

Stock performance on average I agree with

[lone pond]

alright, quick question for you then

[cerulean rover]

3080 on average I disagree with

[lone pond]

is a 6800 xt stock on average faster than a 3080 stock when comparing raster performance?

[cerulean rover]

On average, no

[lone pond]

at say 1440p since Ampere scales well at high res and Navi 2 likes low res

[cerulean rover]

Depending on benchmark

[lone pond]

ah, well then there's your problem

[oak rivet]

that is a good chunk of gap to make up bettween 6800 and 6800xt with a oc

[cosmic bluff]

Can't say it's overall faster when there's different categories both do well over the other

[lone pond]

yeah it's like 20 something %

my 6800 is doing 23 ish % faster than stock performance iirc

been a sec since I looked at stock scores tho

[cerulean rover]

Tpu 1440p average fps

[lone pond]

is that from the original review?

[cerulean rover]

By bench

Yes

[lone pond]

updated figures from the 4080 review

it's faster mate

not my fault you've got bad data

speaking of which, the 3080 is only pulling ahead by like 6% anyway, so you can probs do > 3080 perf without juicing it

[cerulean rover]

Still depends on bench

[cosmic bluff]

Just sounds like another fanboy

[cerulean rover]

Forgot about drivers but they're still trading blows depending on bench

[oak rivet]

i will say 6800xt is the true 3080 competitor

[lone pond]

me when acronyms are banned

💀

[lone pond]

cope

every recent bench puts 6800 xt on top lol

[lone pond]

hardly, I own a 3060 as well and have only had Nvidia cards prior to my current 6800

[cerulean rover]

Recent review

[lone pond]

so again, cope, seethe, mald

[lone pond]

sure, 4K

in 1080p it goes the other way

hence choosing 1440p as a middle ground

and also that's one game

not an average

sooooo

[cerulean rover]

1440p then

[lone pond]

[cosmic bluff]

If you get a 6800 and run 1080p better be high refresh or there's issues

[cerulean rover]

Yes, it still trades blows

[lone pond]

neat

now lets look at those averages again

I wonder if we can together spot which card is on top, can we?

[oak rivet]

holy fk the 4090 lol

[cerulean rover]

Hey funny bench

But anyways it's dependent on bench

On average better but still dependent on bench

[lone pond]

do you know what the word average means?

anyway, here's another average although I don't particularly like this one because radeon tends to overperform in their selection

so lets recap

so far, HUB, TPU, and TH all put a 6800 xt faster than a 3080 at 1440p on average

[oak rivet]

Soo the main takeaway is 6800 is slower then 3080 and 6800xt is faster then 3080?

[lone pond]

yet a 6800 xt is not faster than a 3080? odd

[cerulean rover]

Demonmit made their own a while ago

[coral nexus]

Sorry for late response, it’s a 650 evga gold + 80, GQ. Pretty sure that’s one of the good ones.

[cerulean rover]

But yeah

[lone pond]

funnily enough, 6800 xt is still above a 3080 on that. hate to break it to ya mate

[cerulean rover]

Gq 650w is pretty meh

[cerulean rover]

It is, I'm not disbuting that

[lone pond]

sure, why not. and then getting back to my orginal statement, every 6800 is gonna OC to > 3080 performance if you spend 30 seconds in MPT

[lone pond]

sure took you long enough

[oak rivet]

But that shouldn't factor into a buying decision was my point

[cerulean rover]

I haven't been disputing that since I said I didn't take into account newer drivers lol

It's just dependent on bench

[lone pond]

and mine is that it should. because it's incredibly consistent and is a free 15-20+% guaranteed performance boost at practically 0 cost to the user

if a 3080 could do that I'd count it too, but unfortunately they don't

[oak rivet]

You are a sample size of 1

[lone pond]

no actually

but sure

do continue to cope

[oak rivet]

Ok

[lone pond]

[cosmic bluff]

Try rt I dare you

[lone pond]

my statement was not in RT

sure a 3080 slaughters a 6800 outside of raster

that was never in the cards

[cerulean rover]

I forgot forks actually has world record for 3080 10gb ts lmao

[cosmic bluff]

Maybe I should try it but I got air cooling on it lol

[lone pond]

ampere is kinda boring without hardmods imo

[cerulean rover]

But you can definitely overclock 3080 further

Jake's ts bench with stock cooling
https://hwbot.org/submission/4671030_therealjake_3dmark___time_spy_geforce_rtx_3080_(320bit)_17230_marks

I think bleach was playing with a 3080 12gb not 10gb

Can't find his sub

[cosmic bluff]

Yeah maybe after work tomorrow I'll oc again since I got a 1000w unit to blow up now

[lone pond]

actually hate to keep going on about this and I promise I'm done, I just rembered something and had to put it out there. you do realize a 6800 runs at 1025mv out of box right? Navi 21 silicon scales positively up to like 1.2v on air. admittedly you probably don't want to go that far, but you have a solid 125mv of headroom before you get to even 6900 xt stock voltages. if you don't think 125mv on a card that's artificially gimped from the factory can't get you an extra 300-400mhz then idk what to tell you. all done now, I promise lol

[cerulean rover]

Yea bleach was using a 3080 12gb, but still, 3080 can be overclocked further without modifications

[lone pond]

yeah absolutely, but it takes actual time and commitment to lock in something meaningful and stable. as opposed to what is essentially a "free 15-23% performance" button

and funnily enough, although I take extreme caution in comparing synthetics across benches, my 6800 does a higher graphics score than that lol

[cosmic bluff]

Oc can vary as well just depends on silicon lottery

[cerulean rover]

Meh, it's still not that hard to get an usable overclock, just loop heaven and max memory and then offset a bit

[lone pond]

doesn't mean anything at all, just thought it was funny

[cerulean rover]

Bleach probably didn't put it on hwbot because it wasn't that good of an overclock, but it's worth noting

It's doable without having to resort to xoc

[lone pond]

sure, but it's not a free performance button and still takes a bit of time. and again, I was never saying an overclocked 6800 is going to beat an overclocked 3080, just that it would easily beat a stock one

[cosmic bluff]

Not in every case tho

[lone pond]

yes in every case. 6800's will extremely consistently max out the core clock slider when you juice them

mostly because they're gimped from the factory

[cerulean rover]

Would buy cards and test it if I had infinite money, but ymmv in general

[lone pond]

but y'know... it is what it is

[coral nexus]

6750 xt is pretty close to a 6800, if not better in certain games, I imagine it could push the same.

[livid idol]

There is no time I've ever seen a 6750 beat a 6800 without having the 6750 overclocked vs stock 6800

[coral nexus]

So youre saying it would have to OC, to compare?

[livid idol]

It's fairly close as you said but to match you'd have to overclock, yes

Especially above 1080p

1080p is closer

[coral nexus]

That looks about right. I feel alot of people who do these compare FPS videos an such, use different graphs.

[oak rivet]

Looks like a significant difference between 6750xt and 6800 in both resolutions lol

[livid idol]

~15% at 1440p you can't hope to close the gap on but ~10% at 1080p you can get close if you're lucky

[oak rivet]

If we keep doing this and say 6750xt is very close to 6800 and 6650xt to 6700 then might aswell say 6600 and 6800 are same lmao

[livid idol]

I never said "very" close but relatively speaking it's closer than, say, the 6650 vs the 6700

[oak rivet]

https://youtu.be/Rh7kFgHe21k

It's here

Sit down and laugh at a certain product 😃

[livid idol]

Those lows
It's worse than we could have imagined

And when it's not stuttering it's just plain missing textures or crashing 💀

Forspoken looks like skyrim quality textures

I'm really, really glad I got a 12GB card now

Ooh I wonder how the 3060 12GB would compare now...

[heady turtle]

They did another vid with 3060 it did fine comparatively, better thant the 3060ti-70ti

[vital oriole]

I get the disappearing textures problem from trying to run a game I obviously can't with the vram I have

Just lower settings and accept your gpu's capabilities, or cave in and buy another gpu

[oak rivet]

I think the key takeaway from the vid someone shouldn't get a 8gb vram card if it costs more then 300$

[vital oriole]

yeah, but that's besides the point

once 4060 comes out people will probably buy it despite the apparently not good vram amount

it's gonna be their mistake ofc, but if they've already done that then oh well. sell it or cope

at least i'm glad that 4070 get extra

just $600 is kinda sad for my eyes

[oak rivet]

And the 3070 is closer in price to 6950xt 🤔

[random thunder]

lol

[vital oriole]

i mean i don't deny that

but no one should buy 30 series new anyway

new vs new i'd go 6800 all day

it's faster even if we take vram out of the equation

[random thunder]

naw just go 7900xtx

[vital oriole]

right, lemme summon 1k from thin air

[random thunder]

Poof

[vital oriole]

i suspect the 3060 flood on steam statistics is from the used cards

i don't think someone would be blinded to be buying new 3060's rn

[random thunder]

still dont get why everyone choose nvidia over amd

[vital oriole]

well nvidia has better software and more features

outside of that there's nothing else

[random thunder]

So everyone likes features vs performance ok

[vital oriole]

i mean it's not always inferior performance lol

just not as cheap as amd cards usually goes after a year or two

[random thunder]

I mean price to performance

[vital oriole]

fair enough

well there you have the reason i guess, i don't wanna explain further cuz you can look at the market share already

amd is like 8% i think

intel at 4%

the rest goes to nvidia

[random thunder]

yea I don't know why I feel that everyone goes to Nvidia before even looking at amd

[sage jay]

More known

[vital oriole]

yep that too

[random thunder]

Guess its becuase my first grpahics card was amd is why i know it radeon 480

[vital oriole]

and much more available in worldwide markets

amd gpus also costs more than nvidia in other regions

you can easily buy an nvidia gpu anywhere

while amd in some countries you have to look around

[random thunder]

Well I guess thats their fault for marketing

[vital oriole]

for the people who doesn't get into pcs, they'll buy what's available

then that name gained reputation

and yep, look at where they are

always that huge shadow eating up all the market share

same problem basically applies to radeon laptops too

not very available

[random thunder]

I dont think Ive ever seen one

its always Nvidia

[vital oriole]

see that's the problem

[random thunder]

like the laptop im using is a 3050ti

[vital oriole]

they can't supply enough chips, or couldn't get interest from oems

the cpus definitely gained a lot of attention lately

so are gpus

you can expect to see more all amd laptops

[random thunder]

I feel in the next for 5 years they might gained more shares

[odd siren]

Called it. Literally 3080 perf for $100 less
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-claims-geforce-rtx-4070-and-rtx-3080-offer-equal-dlss-performance-without-frame-generation

This is their attempt to make themselves look good

[oak rivet]

🤷‍♂️

and the new ada features

[spare relic]

They're ADA compliant?

♿

[vital oriole]

features that will get obsolete anyway once next gen comes?

used 3080 is better value

[wicked hound]

Better then $650 4070 that I was expecting. iirc 4070 is XX60 tier based on historical tiering, so still meme price for historial tier.

[odd siren]

Indeed

[oak rivet]

Frame generation deserves a premium but how much is subjective ig

It basically makes the extremely bad cpu stutters in games like hogwarts super smooth

[naive bane]

gpu shortage is over, why prices still high?

[odd siren]

Cos no one is buying anymore so the market stagnated and we're experiencing slow stagflation

[naive bane]

people should buy, 4k and ultrawide at 144hz is amazing

[oak rivet]

Well Nvidia does not take kidneys or other stuff for payments 🤷‍♂️

[random walrus]

chinese PC cafe's

iirc on that same steam survey the chinese language went up 40%

[vital oriole]

lol that sounds reasonable then

[random walrus]

Though lots of individuals are still buying them new

If they don't know much about GPUS the default option is a 3060

[oak rivet]

I will take that card over 3060ti-70ti

When the cheaper the card is objectively better

[random walrus]

60ti has almost always had better price/perf

Unless market has changed recently

You lose some vram but 3060ti is a 1080p/1440p card, 8gb is fine for that

(^this is assuming someone doesn't want/know about amd cards)

[vital oriole]

it isn't objectively better than higher cards

what the hell are you on lmao

it's a lot faster than 3060, the 3060ti

as long as you don't max out in what, games i can count with my hand 8 is totally ok

this talk about vram never ends

[oak rivet]

If a card can give more then 30fps without crashing compared to other cards it is indeed a better card

[ancient crystal]

10400F, pretty solid CPU still

i have an 11400

and like, i can't be happier honestly

computer go vroom

couple generations old sure, but nobody cares

[oak rivet]

🤷‍♂️

Sir that's a cpu lol

[ancient crystal]

you're gonna game with that thing for like 2-3 more years np np

i know it's a CPU

i understand what a CPU is

by "that thing" i mean your entire computer

[oak rivet]

Ik and this cpu will see something something 40 series

[ancient crystal]

yeah

i might seek an i7/i9 depending on how things work

due to improved encoding capability

gotta make handbrake go fast

and currently i can't use a ton of the filters i want to use in order to decrease video size for some of the older video content i have

[random walrus]

#cpus-mobo-and-memory

[ancient crystal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i'll stop

[toxic hinge]

hey guys question here I have a day one 3080TI FE what mm size thermal pad do I buy

[fringe scroll]

It's not that deep💀

[naive bane]

when will gpu prices drop by alot?

[random walrus]

Probably never

No reason for manufacturers to lower MSRP if the gpus sell as well as they are right now

[spare relic]

When they're broken

But even then they're still expensive

[naive bane]

why the costed much less a few years ago then?

[spare relic]

Economics and society

[livid idol]

Everything cost less a few years ago. That was before the global economy collapsed.

[naive bane]

due to covid19?

how come ram prices are much lower now

and gpus are the same

[livid idol]

Covid was the match that lit the fire

RAM is cheaper now because DDR5 launched, dropping the price of DDR4. Prices of memory always go down over time as manufacturing techniques improve.

DDR5 at launch was disgustingly expensive because it was mid-shortage

[random walrus]

Gpus &CPUs see new tech/generations every few years, that cycle is a lot longer for memory

[livid idol]

That too. The cycle just aligned that way.

[hot bough]

I have a heart that needs replacing, you think that'd take my heart as payment?

[keen nacelle]

@heady turtle

[heady turtle]

Ty

[barren trout]

im in after effects n i made a simple looping webcam boarder with the saber effect an once it started loading it showed playing from ram 0 of 600 i have 32GB of ram but a 1060 6GB GPU would i need a stronger GPU or CPU for it to render faster
[4:23 PM]
once it completely loaded it was perfectly fine with the animation but it took a really long time getting there

[keen nacelle]

what cpu do you have

it's likely the gpu, but figured I'd ask

[random walrus]

1060 6gb should be fine for medium/light AE

[random walrus]

Let us know what CPU you have, and also check if hardware acceleration is turned on

[barren trout]

I have a intel i5 8400

My gpu is a GeForce 1060 6gb

[livid idol]

6c/6t, that still meets the recommended spec pretty well

Are you on a SSD or HDD?

[barren trout]

Yes is was my mid teir build to stream but I'm wondering I need a stronger anything for it to run smoothly on after effects

I have both

I have a ssd n hdd but my windows is on my ssd

[livid idol]

Try saving the project to the SSD, it might be the HDD is too slow to load quickly

Your system is above the recommended requirements for AE so there's something slowing it down

[barren trout]

I mean I didn't render the project it was jus loading the project but once it loaded everything was completely smooth it jus took a good while to completely load

[livid idol]

Right, that sounds like a slow HDD to me

[barren trout]

So should I disconnect my hdd n buy a nvme n combine it with my ssd

I think I have a super small ssd 250gb

[livid idol]

You can keep the HDD and use it for cold storage

And a 250gb drive is enough for Windows, programs, and a couple projects

Adding another SSD would be ideal though

They're cheap now too

[barren trout]

I mean there's cheap nvme like 1 tb for like under a 100 bucks

[livid idol]

Try $40 for 1TB

$80 for 2TB

[barren trout]

Oh no way

I think that 970 Evo is 100 on pcpartpicker

[livid idol]

Samsung tax

They're honestly subpar parts now and riding on their name

[barren trout]

My motherboard is old generation I mean not that old it's a 3.0 express lane

[livid idol]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7tCFf7/silicon-power-a60-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp001tbp34a60m28
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2vVmP6/intel-670p-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknu020tzx1

3.0 is still perfectly fine

You can run a 4090 on 3.0

[barren trout]

Noway

[keen nacelle]

pcie is backwards and forwards compatible

[barren trout]

I mean I've been trying to chase the 20 series for years lol

N I thought the 40 series wasn't compatible with my 3.0 motherboard

[livid idol]

Nope you could technically put a 4090 in a PCIe 1.1 slot

It'll be bottlenecked by the interface in that case but it'll run

(it won't be bottlenecked on 3.0 as long as it's in x16 mode)

[barren trout]

Well I think I need a nvme to add to my ssd I guess

I never clicked the render button but while it was loading it said 0 of 600 playing from ram but it was at 2.5 fps

N it took awhile to process 10 second loop of 1 simple animation

So im jus wondering if im not understanding after effects or that wat it does to animate n my system is totally fine

Or I need a upgrade of sum sort for a particular component

[livid idol]

Your system is probably fine, since once it fully loads there's no issues

It's just loading the project that takes a long time

[barren trout]

i gotcha

[odd siren]

Lmfao this comment aged well.

[livid idol]

Oh did they finally give an official msrp

We've just been hoping the $750 price was a placeholder lol

Last I heard FE would be $600 and AIB would be $650

[oak rivet]

base models 600$ and premium models 650$

[livid idol]

Ok so still no official msrp just another leak of early listings as far as I can see

17.9 million VND, about $637, is the leak

[vital oriole]

$650 is bleh for premium models

and they come with 16 pin just cause

8 pin better

4070 only needs one 8 pin cause it's that efficient

You can't OC Ada with meaningful gains after all, they're all voltage limited by design

[livid idol]

I had heard some AIBs might go rogue and put an 8 pin anyway

[odd siren]

It's confirmed some have 8 pin

[oak rivet]

Nvidia has too much control they just can't go 'rogue' if they don't want to

[odd siren]

They can actually, aib's do it all the time

[livid idol]

[vital oriole]

Nvidia doesn't care when aibs goes rogue

As long as they can handle Nvidia's antics that made evga quit

And sell good, it's all okay

[livid idol]

They don't even need to make good selling models. Nvidia already sold the cores before the PCB was even made and made their profit.

[vital oriole]

yep lmao

They don't care

aibs deal with the rest with nvidia's guideline

[odd siren]

Board designs get approved by Nvidia but there is always loopholes and tricks aib's will do to get a leg up

And yes, if there was never an 8 pin option, some brands would try it

Anything to make themselves look better against the competition

[solemn panther]

how much for 5090?

[odd siren]

63 billion $

Watch

[solemn panther]

NOOOO

[odd siren]

I'll get it right

[solemn panther]

(for real)

[odd siren]

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-dollars-haha-money-gif-16679435

[hot bough]

Sounds like Apple now xD.

[livid idol]

Apple mobile, sure. Apple laptops, M1 is actually really good. M2 is less impressive but it's still nice to see someone breaking out of x86 architecture. We're dangerously close to the limits of x86 already.

Calling it now, first consumer quantum CPU within a decade.

[sonic mural]

apples billions of dollars into Rnd is actually paying off, who wouldve guessed?

[hot bough]

Apple is working on Quantum CPUs?

[hot bough]

Was thinking of how the M.2 lineup has been rather disappointing, especially considering the horrific Apple Tax.

[livid idol]

Probably. Not publicly. But aren't all the CPU makers working on that? We're pretty well past the concept theory phase and getting into the theoretical engineering phases.

https://tenor.com/view/money-cash-cry-tears-wiping-gif-17321525

^Apple crying over M2 sales

[hot bough]

Fair.

[solid glacier]

bro

my microsoft account someone is trying to login from vietnam, africa etc lmfaoo

[spare relic]

Let them in

They bring cool culture and cuisine

[solid glacier]

xD

[oak rivet]

3070 who?

https://computers.woot.com/offers/sapphire-technology-pulse-radeon-rx-6700-xt-amd?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_6_1

[lapis zinc]

Just wondering is it worth buying secondhand graphic card

[spare relic]

It can be

[lapis zinc]

I found a GeForce RTX 3060 ti founder edition for $400

[keen nacelle]

That's awful if you're in the US

3060 tis go for around ~300-330 very commonly

[lapis zinc]

Oh I haven’t found anyone that sells one

This is the first person I’ve meet that sells that specific graphic card

And amazon sells it for $900 0-0

So it’s either a new sapphire pulse Rx 6800 16gb for 6700kr (rough estimate of $660) or a Geforce Rtx 3060 ti founders edition for 4000 (rough estimate $400)

[keen nacelle]

Ah so not in the us?

[lapis zinc]

No

I’m in Europe

[keen nacelle]

That could be a decent price then, I'm not sure

Check sold prices on ebay for 3060 tis and compare

[lapis zinc]

Ah okey!

Will be back

[livid idol]

The 6700 XT is roughly equal to the 3060 ti, keep it in mind.

[keen nacelle]

6700xt bit better, 6700 bit worse

Both good choices as well

[lapis zinc]

It is?

Ah

Yeah also the 3060 ti is also secondhand

Or used

So I doubt it got warranty

[lapis zinc]

Okey from what I’ve gathered it’s first up not a common graphic card or video card?

Not many that sells or sold em

And those that have been sold is 4900-5000kr (roughly $469-$485)

[keen nacelle]

Then 400 seems like a good price

[random walrus]

yeah (US) MSRP in europe is pretty good

[random walrus]

Browsing PC subreddits I genuinely am starting to believe AMD (or someone else idk) may be paying for a 'not enough Vram' campaign

like did some techtuber make a video about 8gb Vram that i didnt see?

[oak rivet]

?

I think anyone who is not a Nvidia fan boy would like the vram paradigm to shift to more then 8gb

[random walrus]

I'm all for an increase but people are suddenly acting like 8gb cards belong in the trash

[oak rivet]

If you are paying 550$ or more for a 3070ti

🤷‍♂️

[oak rivet]

https://wccftech.com/amd-says-more-vram-matters-in-modern-games-ahead-of-nvidias-rtx-4070-launch/

[solemn panther]

And people said the 3080ti was a 4k card lol

Or 3080

Smh

There's no such thing when games continue to grow more demanding

[odd siren]

A 3080ti can still do 4K

Smh

[vital oriole]

People also said 1080 was a 4k gpu

Times changes lol

Hardware doesn't change as they age, but the games changed

Stuff loses titles all the time so yeah

[stiff finch]

Wccf tech comment section is one of worst place to see

It’s a place that makes me realize pc community does deserves the crap treatment they get.

[vital oriole]

Well the brain damage inducing people in the community is the ones who deserve that

[oak rivet]

now that you mentioned it i will check it

[vital oriole]

There's still good people around to help you at least

[spare relic]

People played games in 4K on 970s lol

[vital oriole]

that too

[oak rivet]

avg 4090 being efficient moment

[vital oriole]

the game probably barely using it lol

knowing its optimization

or cuz of fps limit

[oak rivet]

its using like 80%

comment section kinda funny tho

[solemn panther]

the engineer team is the maestro of efficiency

not him

[odd siren]

Still not as efficient as a radeon 680m

[vital oriole]

or da upcoming 780M

[odd siren]

10W 1660 performance go brrrr

[livid idol]

Laptop 4090 (same silicon as desktop 4080) beats desktop 3090 at half the power, so yeah those engineers are REALLY good at their jobs.

[ivory herald]

[oak rivet]

It's producing 98fps

[livid idol]

The GPU has decided that game is beneath it and is undeserving of the highest power state

[vital oriole]

gpu chilling be like

[oak rivet]

https://youtu.be/VP_aCwPzIfk

[random thunder]

7900xtx vs 4090 which is better compared to price and performance

[odd siren]

XTX

1000% unless you're doing AI work or something very specifically cuda

XTX hoses the pants off of the 4090 for price/performance

[random thunder]

Ok that'd what I thought when I was looking at performance difference. Still don't know why people spend 600 more dollars for the 4090 then

[odd siren]

Big money big fast

How are you liking the XTX?

[random thunder]

): not built yet psu is now coming in tomorrow I don't even know if it works yet

I'm hoping it will be better I'm currently gaming on 3050ti laptop version and I've been getting blue screens probably from overheating during games

[odd siren]

Hm, we could help with that

(some other time I'm tired)

[heady turtle]

Tried DDUing?

[random thunder]

What's that

I don't know if that would be the problem, could be but it freezes randomly too and I have to hold the power button on the laptop to turn it off

[odd siren]

Ddu wipes the drivers

Like

Nukes them

Better than nvidia uninstaller ever will

So you can fresh reinstall and it tends to fix a lot of weirdness

[random thunder]

Might do it but once I build my pc I will only plan on using it for school work no games

[heady turtle]

!ddu

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[heady turtle]

Forgot we changed to ? Woops

[rustic pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-didnt-ask-cope-_ratio-skill-issue-canceled-gif-24148064

[hasty monolith]

What is tsr? Is that better than fsr or dlss in ue5 games?

[livid idol]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ghostwire-tokyo-dlss-vs-tsr-vs-fsr-comparison/

DLSS is still visually the best

[hasty monolith]

Thanks. Im playing ghostwire on pc via game pass. I never heard of tsr

[nocturne nest]

is anyone else having fortnite stuttering after the newest AMD drivers?

[random thunder]

Oh no not more drivers from amd bad

[nocturne nest]

im losing to switch kids

its that bad

[heady turtle]

maybe try rolling back the drivers

[hot bough]

Why does Nvidia cards feel like the Apple of GPUs all of a sudden?

You pay extra but you can expect the darn thing to work as it should without concern.....

[random thunder]

I mean but amd seems to fix it I've run a 480 for most of my life and had no problems

[livid idol]

If you feel like this was sudden you're about a decade behind

[hot bough]

I felt it before but it feels really strong now.

[oak rivet]

if anyone see some 4070 1080p bench feel free to send em my way

[livid idol]

Loses to the 6950 XT at the same price

Launch falls flat before they even take a step

[solemn panther]

I was looking for one rn. Smh

[oak rivet]

hmmm kinda sad in pure raster games coz 1080p seems to be the best case scenario for this card to keep up with the 3080 and 6800xt

[livid idol]

When you throw RT into the mix the 6950 and 4070 are about equal 💀

[oak rivet]

[oak rivet]

hmmm wonder where the 6950xt would land here

[livid idol]

The TPU list is only good for a very rough idea, it can be much as 10% off the mark

They only use one benchmark for that list iirc and it's not even gaming

RIP 4070

[grim galleon]

My friends getting the 4070 lol

[oak rivet]

He will definitely outclass the 3080 and 6800xt with frame gen

And it cuts through cpu bound scenarios

Flattens out the frame time graph

[odd siren]

The germans had it pretty accurate

TPU's RDNA 2 and RDNA 3 data looks dated

6950XT would get much closer to the 4070, like some 5-10% gain

Hell maybe even a bit more

https://www.computerbase.de/2023-04/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-fe-review-test/2/#abschnitt_benchmarks_mit_und_ohne_raytracing_in_2560__1440

[odd siren]

Uh huh?

[oak rivet]

apart from df have not found anyone test overdrive yet

[odd siren]

I'm not expecting anything out of AMD in an Nvidia tech demo lmao

[oak rivet]

Wondering what the 3rd gen rt cores are doing if they fall in line with their raster perf

[odd siren]

3rd gen

[solid glacier]

Anyone using 23.4.1 is it stable

[oak rivet]

https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1646366448074518535?t=COgiq1vibAHjHI55am4eXA&s=19

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed)

If AMD were smart they wouldn't release a single RDNA 3 GPU priced above $400 US with less than 16GB's of VRAM.

Twitter · Apr 13, 2023, 4:15 AM

Woke up and choose to speak facts 💯

[livid idol]

Force 8GB obsolescence! RIOT IN NVIDIA HQ!

[solemn panther]

If only it was that easy

They're blinded by greed

They only see the opportunity for their market share to increase to all time highs

We the people have no power

Maybe next gen they'll increase the vram...

[vital oriole]

We can only dream of that honestly

All AMD needs is just to undercut Nvidia, never need to outright roast them cause well

Nvidia has gotten away with less, so AMD simply follows by giving a lil bit more for the people

Speaking about it gets attention, but I doubt people will ever wake up with the market share

Also seeing games suddenly consume 8 gigs+ is saddening, cuz it then also harms the existing, already perfectly working gpus

Creating more e-waste lol

Nvidia could've given us more, but alas

[livid idol]

I'll take some of that e-waste off their hands

I need a 1070 equivalent for 4k plex

[hot bough]

I'd gladly take that e-waste.

Free tech is always appreciated at my residence.

[vital oriole]

I'd happily accept said "e-waste" too

Imagine someone throwing a 3070 away cuz it doesn't let them max out anymore

That'd be insane

[hot bough]

We happen to live in a world full of insane people so that's perfect for you and I.

[livid idol]

There's going to be a lot of 3070s on the used market with the 4070 out now

[vital oriole]

...yeah

People willingly paying more than $500 just to have moar vram

It's ugly

To its credit, it does deliver amazing efficiency

Just wrong naming and positioning

[livid idol]

Indeed. Matches the 3080 at 180W, it's no slouch.

[vital oriole]

If anything, this tier sounds like a 4060ti

Not really deserving of 4070 naming

[livid idol]

Not like AMD is clean of this sin either, 7900 XT(X), really?

[vital oriole]

lol ye

[odd siren]

God the taichi xtx just went on a huge sale here

And I'm trying so hard not to buy it

[livid idol]

Not like they couldn't do 7950 XT or something, they have precedent already for using 50s

That would even leave room for a 7970 and 7990

[odd siren]

They absolutely could, if you crank the hell out of a 7900 xtx it gets within reaching distance of a 4090

[vital oriole]

I'll only recc 4070 if it is down to $500

[odd siren]

Imagine a 600W XTX some 10% off a 4090 at 1100

All they'd have to do is crank the power and voltage a bit

[livid idol]

I've seen the 600W XTX
You need to epower it or risk VRM poof

[odd siren]

Evcs2 is not epower

[vital oriole]

I wouldn't mind XTX with near 4090 perf at 1.2k

[odd siren]

It's a volt mod

[vital oriole]

And the XT being about 800-900 with 4080 perf

[livid idol]

Yeah and you're risking VRM going poof with that mod, I've seen it happen twice

[vital oriole]

But AMD is too scared

[odd siren]

Not at 600W

[vital oriole]

They wouldn't beef up the gpu smh

[odd siren]

There are people gaming on that card with these mods

[vital oriole]

I want 6950XT moment again

Top dog but Radeon

Cuz knowing Radeon their prices drop all the time

Wait a year or two and boom

Cheap gpu

Relative to its perf that is

[livid idol]

6950 is still top dog price/perf

AMD owns the top 3 spots even

4070 just took 4th

[odd siren]

6950 makes both the 4070 ti and the 4070 look bad

[livid idol]

Yep lol

[random thunder]

What's number 1

[livid idol]

For price/performance ratio? 6950 XT

[livid idol]

.

[random thunder]

Is there a list if so gimme

[livid idol]

A list of the ratio rankings? Yeah it's in that reply to myself

[random thunder]

Is the 3090ti really that expensive

[livid idol]

yes

[random thunder]

Why would anyone buy that lol

[livid idol]

If you call it the best someone will buy it

But yeah $1600 is just garbage now

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09X4JVZB5

[random thunder]

And you can buy the 4090 for the same price makes no since at all

[oak rivet]

Lol I see 4090 being like 50-70% faster then this thing

At any 3 of the mainstream resolutions

[livid idol]

That GPU will die on that shelf if they don't cut the price in half this year

[naive bane]

rtx 3080 on idle, is this normal?

[odd siren]

Fans are off so yes

[naive bane]

ty

[velvet grail]

1080ti arrived. Doesn't match the description as I got the extreme version instead of the normal one and there's no box unlike in the photos... :/

[odd siren]

isn't the xtreme better?

it's a 1080ti right?

you checked with gpu-z?

[velvet grail]

Yes it is better

But still didn't match the photos

And no box

[lone pond]

congrats, you got a free upgrade lol

[velvet grail]

Which I expect as I saw it in one of the many photos

[lone pond]

albeit a particularly minor one, but still

[velvet grail]

Not that big but I'd say it's enough to justify the missing box

[odd siren]

does it fit

[velvet grail]

Not yet, I just unboxed it

[odd siren]

the million dollar question

[odd siren]

def check

[velvet grail]

(I literally have no case)

[odd siren]

oh i c

I thought you had that itx project

[velvet grail]

This is the situation

[velvet grail]

Still developing the case, as soon as I'll get it done I'll 3D print some parts and use a laser to cut the panels

But school takes too much time and I can't finish it rn

But yeah, it'll fit, right now the case is supposed to hold 324mm cards that are up to 3.25 slots thick

Height is not really a problem as you'll also have to look at the radiator you want to mount since it'll make a difference in the max height for the gpu

But still ~160mm tall gpus

Hope I get the project done before June
(Last time I thought I would have completed it in December)

[odd siren]

def plug it in and double check it's 100% a 1080ti

do a 3dmark test as well

reason I say is cause "Hey great, it appears to be a better model?" when it mightn't be underneath

[velvet grail]

I man i guess it is the extreme model because of the silver like parts on the card because I've seen the normal version is like all black with orange details

[odd siren]

ya

I'm talking about the pcb

it looks like a 1080ti but is it actually

you should test it to check

gpu-z will give the vbios readout, 3dmark will give enough of a rough performance indicator

there are people out there who swap coolers, pcb's and stuff to try and scam people

[velvet grail]

Actually not only from the silver details but also the copper backplate which is bigger on the xtreme

I'll try it tomorrow cuz I got to study chemistry

[odd siren]

okie

[velvet grail]

I'll also need to use ddu because i had a normal 1080 before and drivers are probably going to conflict a bit

[random walrus]

Going Nvidia to Nvidia same generation I wouldn't worry about drivers

[velvet grail]

Okei thanks, I'll do some testing ofc and see if everything is ok

[velvet grail]

One fan is locked because a metal fin touches it, maybe it got slightly bent during shipping. More work to do :|

[naive bane]

rtx 5xxx is coming out next year?

[velvet grail]

Yeah it should

Probably at the end of the year as usual

[velvet grail]

Just checked better, not a shipping damage but the previous owner disassembled it and screw and a metal fin from the shroud in the wrong place making contact with one fan

[naive bane]

but it should have taken 2 years, why it takes only 1 year now?

[velvet grail]

It's not... 4000 series was announced in late October 2022, so it'll be still 2y til October 2024

It's usually 2 years ±1month

[velvet grail]

Btw it's April 2023, that means October (when 4000 was released) was about 6 months ago, so the new series will launch 1.5years from now

[vital oriole]

Should be Q3 2024 actually for blackwell if there's no delays

Nvidia tries to go for yearly I guess

[velvet grail]

Wow

That's really bent

[livid idol]

Yikes. There's nothing critical on that corner but the nearby traces might get broken with that much flex.

[velvet grail]

It's completely safe, first traces are where you can see the small components near the screw

Anyways I'll mount this GPU vertically so it won't even stress that area anymore

[spare relic]

There's still the weight of the heatsink

[hot bough]

are there horizontal gpu sag supports?

[velvet grail]

I'll be using some supports to hold the GPU when it'll be vertically mounted or else this thing would rip the entire io shield of the card

[velvet grail]

Horizontal? yes there are some, you can find them for chap and with RGB too.

You can also find them that are more like columns that you put at the end of the card (closest part to front panel) and those work even better

I should get one for my 2080 cuz it got some sag

[hot bough]

no no no.

I meant a gpu support to push against the fan side of the heatsink.

[velvet grail]

So you mean supports for vertical mounted GPUs then?

[hot bough]

yes.

[heady turtle]

Not for vertical gpus, but a vertical support, ie legos or something

[velvet grail]

Oh, well idk, usually when you buy a riser cable to get your GPU vertically mounted the entire metal shroud is the support itself

[hot bough]

Ahh okay.

[velvet grail]

Like here

[hot bough]

Btw Pato, guess what. the R7-5700g all core I managed to get +200 override and -20 undervolt all core.

[heady turtle]

Oh you mean the holder for the gpu mount

Nice

Yeah if you just buy a vert mount kit it'll come with one

[hot bough]

I haven't tried -25 yet.

[hot bough]

ahh okay.

[heady turtle]

-20s pretty good tho

[hot bough]

Yeah, I am kinda curious if I can beat that -30 digit Falcie said he's seen before.

[velvet grail]

This support is the best, not the best looking one but the most optimal for sure

And you could use it on bot mounted gpus

[hot bough]

oh nice.

[velvet grail]

I'm going to 3d print mine probably (for the 2080)

This is my current situation

And the glass is really clean I see

[hot bough]

nice.

Print a HOF logo xD.

[velvet grail]

Why would I lol?

[hot bough]

cuz funny.

[velvet grail]

I mean I can print anything so...

(I cannot print houses*)

[hot bough]

I know! print HighSchoolDxD and make that the support.

Nvm I take that back.

Print a Dryad to hold the gpu since I noticed you have a plant in the pc.

Maybe one that's laying down?

[velvet grail]

Mmmh
I was thinking about more like a small bonsai but that'd be really difficult to print and make it look nice

Can't really do complex things unless I spend a lot of time designing it and also printing

[hot bough]

Ahh fair.

[velvet grail]

Resin printers are the best ones for detailed objects

[hot bough]

What kind of theme are you going for? Mind if I help come up with ideas?

[velvet grail]

I really don't know, Id like somethin simple, it could also be a square stand hiding behind the plant so it won't affect the looks of the pc

[hot bough]

What about a sign that says LIFE?

Nice little green sign.

[velvet grail]

Yeah that would be nice

[hot bough]

0.o I got an idea to take it a step further, interested?

[velvet grail]

The sign idea is a good one I'll probably take it

[velvet grail]

Go on

[hot bough]

You could make the bottom plate a bit bigger and put a spot on it that fits your little plant pot.

This way it all looks like part of one nice deco.

[velvet grail]

This is all the space I got rn

[hot bough]

Maybe move the plant back a little?

so you can make the bottom plate with the left having the letters LIFE and the right side has a lil holder for the plant.

If two colors is an option you could do a white bottom plate and green letters to match your plant with it's pot.

[velvet grail]

Yeah, I'll figure out what I can do with the space I have, I'll try to make some prototypes and then see which one looks better

[hot bough]

Please keep me updated, would love to see this come to life.

Get it?

[velvet grail]

Imma go back to studying chemistry now, I have a test tomorrow :0

[hot bough]

Gl.

[unborn sinew]

Would an 850w psu be good for a 4090fe and 7800x3d?

[solemn panther]

just dont OC that 4090

[unborn sinew]

I would only undervolt it

[soft flume]

Will the 4070 Msi gaming x trio white come out?

[wicked hound]

Used 3080-10 will be a better choice. If you dont need CUDA then new/used 6800xt for same perf at cheaper price or 6950xt for better perf at same price.

[soft flume]

They got 0 white options that look nice

[odd siren]

6950XT a good 20-25% better for the same price

[soft flume]

The white option is horrible

[odd siren]

Then 4070 Ti white

[soft flume]

Honestly idk even if they have a white one

[soft flume]

To poor for that

[odd siren]

Then a 3080 10gb vision

[odd siren]

We don't have an answer for this.

[soft flume]

Will it ever release or it won’t Becuase it didn’t release today

[odd siren]

Not the foggiest idea

[odd siren]

^

I can recommend an existing white card but I don't have any info on specifically a white 4070 gaming trio

Go ask the msi discord

They'd know if one was coming, not us

[cyan vault]

Was wondering if someone could give me an answer on the difference between AMD v NVIDIA on voltage- it seems beneficial to actual performance regardless of thermals to undervolt, and it gets just as much power as far as I've been able to tell

But from what I know the main outcome of undervolting on nvidia is just increased performance relative to voltage, not a flat increase

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was wondering why they are different if that's the case? Not need to know or anything just curious

[odd siren]

RDNA 2/3 really love undervolting

Nvidia, pretty much has that sort of behaviour but it's done a bit differently/boost is treated differently

Ada lovelace however is totally voltage locked and reliant, and from what's known so far, undervolting is just a performance loss

[cyan vault]

Funny tbh, AMD CPUs also like undervolting

[odd siren]

Ada prefers power capping for the similar effect of 'undervolting' per se

AMD will just use the headroom on the vbios for PPT the less voltage you give it, which in turn is pushing closer to the edge of stability

[odd siren]

Yes, indeed they do

[cyan vault]

Seems counterintuitive that less voltage=more performance lol! Super interesting how they handle it differently though

[livid idol]

It's a balancing act really. Less voltage means less heat. Less heat means it can target a higher boost bin. Too low and the target bin is lower or it crashes.

[vital oriole]

I think Ada requires no work tbh

It's already pretty well controlled

AI control do be good

[livid idol]

It's pretty dang efficient I'll give em that

[cyan vault]

Less work = less fun

(Imo ofc)

[vital oriole]

It is indeed less fun

[livid idol]

It does show that the engineers are paying attention to the overclocking community and implementing things out of the box instead of us needing to tweak it

[cyan vault]

Nvidia engineers are miracle workers tbf

If only prices were better

[oak rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z109Di2g5s8&t=1198s

[vital oriole]

ah yes compare rt of different gens

and say it's fair game

[livid idol]

Fortnite RT is also really bad to begin with lol

[oak rivet]

unlike 30 series 4070 has frame gen going for it soo if someone does not care about that 6950xt seems great

[vital oriole]

if we don't take rt into account, the 6950xt screams

[livid idol]

Frame gen is cool but it's really noticeable to me when it's already running under 75 fps native

[oak rivet]

if someone does actively use frame gen day to day

the answer is kinda a no brainer imo

[livid idol]

We need more games to support it first before I call it a selling point

[vital oriole]

Accept Nvidia's excuse of $600 price

That's what I call it is

I would personally wait for price to go down

Or go used

Used 4070 probably sounds like a great deal

If it loses $100+

[livid idol]

"Look with this barely supported feature our current $600 GPU performs like our last $800 GPU!"

"No no don't look over there, only look here"

[oak rivet]

every driver update there is always 2 or 3 games added

faster adoption then fsr 2

[livid idol]

FSR is open source and got added to a lot more than the official games list

[vital oriole]

Until a feature is implemented in engines, which seems to be newest versions only so far

I won't really call it a selling point imo

[vital oriole]

Then again I guess I'm that "boring" gamer who likes to play indie games

Or games from smaller studios

[oak rivet]

gonna find out how much this battlepass is worth

[livid idol]

OOH wait RTX remix is out?!

[oak rivet]

yes

[livid idol]

I've been dying to port skyrim with it

It's going to be a HUGE project

I really hope it doesn't end up over 500GB

Oh gee thanks nvidia, the program itself is open source but you still need a developer account to use the other (closed source) SDKs you need

[vital oriole]

ya lol

It's stupid

Meanwhile AMD has an entire github project

[normal hawk]

Doesn't it need to be a dx9 or dx10 game?

[normal hawk]

Just download the Elysium Remastered mod pack. It's not 500gbs.

But it will make your GPU cry

Oh oldrim is dx9

But tbh, do it to oblivion instead

[tender violet]

I have a Radeon Rx 580 i have to have my PC flat for it to work anyone got a fix

[livid idol]

8 or 9
Skyrim is a 9

Yeah I'll probably do oblivion and/or morrowind instead

There's plenty of graphical mods for skyrim already

[vital oriole]

Gimme fsr 2 for roblox

But that game sucks when you wanna adjust graphics

Draw distance too far but your gpu can handle other graphical goodies?

Good luck, enjoy none of that as soon as you step down our preset

They have long refused to allow advanced graphical settings, with excuse of "it'll confuse the kids"

[livid idol]

Is that directx 9?

Nope it's 10

[vital oriole]

It is 10

Can run vulkan but it's only on roblox studio

I don't understand lmao

Cuz on old hw it can switch to ogl or dx 9

[livid idol]

dxvk can translate 10 to vulkan

[vital oriole]

Yet I have vulkan capable gpu

Ya, but dxvk doesn't work on it anyway

I tried

Roblox would just crash

[livid idol]

As of April 28th 2021 roblox is dx10 only

[vital oriole]

Hm ok

Last I checked in 2022 I saw vulkan

It's only in roblox studio oddly enough

[livid idol]

That's just as of that date

[vital oriole]

And of course there's metal api, macos moment

[livid idol]

It could have been added more recently

[vital oriole]

It's been there since about late 2021

Vulkan that is

Clearly ran better with vk, so idk why the roblox client itself doesn't utilize vk for hardware with capability for it

[grizzled nimbus]

uh, screw it in?

[spare relic]

Tech companies hate him

Use this one simple trick

[barren trout]

I have a intel i5 8400 with a 1060 gpu if I was to double up on the 1060 6gb would it out perform a single 2080ti 11gb

[vital oriole]

no

besides sli is dead now

[barren trout]

@vital oriole ok 👍🏽 good to know wat about for editing not gaming

[hot bough]

Depends on if the software supportd it and how well it's able to utilize an extra card.

[tender violet]

It is

[barren trout]

@hot bough ty

[random walrus]

Probably not

[grizzled nimbus]

if the 2x 1060s had perfect scaling youd get about 2060 level

mayve 2060 super

[livid idol]

2060 12gb cursed model

[lone pond]

okay, but how about an 8GB 6500 xt

[nocturne nest]

Im trying to roll back drivers but it wont let me, Anyone know a fix?

[livid idol]

DDU and reinstall the old version

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[nocturne nest]

ok ill try that

Do i check safe boot?

becasue it says to clear it

and its already cleared

[livid idol]

That's for after you've done the DDU isn't it

[livid idol]

Honestly it's easier to get into safe mode by just holding shift while clicking restart

[nocturne nest]

oh

ok ill do that then

[livid idol]

That gets you to the advanced boot menu and you can select safe mode there

You want regular safe mode, no networking or anything so it doesn't try to download a default driver

[nocturne nest]

On the right it says restart now. Do i click it

Pic is loading

[livid idol]

For safe mode? yes

[nocturne nest]

Pic wont load but

Ot says everythinf thatll be changed is

Enablelow res video mode
Enable debug mode
enable boot logging
Enable safeboot
Disable sriber signature enforcement
Disable early self launch anti malware protection
Disable auto restart on sys failure

[livid idol]

Those are just examples of things you can set

Tell it to restart and I think safe boot was option 6

[nocturne nest]

Ok im in sb

But i cant install ddu

[livid idol]

It's not something you install

It just runs

[nocturne nest]

What

Oh

Thats what i ment

It wont let me opwn ot

Open

It

When i try it says
This file cannot be accessed by the system

[livid idol]

Ok so the download is a self extracting zip file, you run it and tell it to extract to the desktop and then you run it from there

They must have changed that at some point, it used to be just a run and done but I guess they want to save a little bandwidth

[nocturne nest]

Soo i was support to run and extract to desktop before goin in sb?

And then run it

[oak rivet]

Ddu is not portable iirc you have to install it first

[livid idol]

No it's just a self extracting zip

Once it's extracted it runs with no install

[nocturne nest]

Its not running though

[livid idol]

You might have to go back to normal mode, extract it, and return to safe mode

[nocturne nest]

Do i do the same process as before to return to normal

Like shift restart

[livid idol]

Nah just reboot

[nocturne nest]

ok im back to normal area

DDU is on my desktop

What do i need to do now

extract it ?

[livid idol]

Yes

Run it and it self extracts to where you choose

There will be a folder where you extract it

[nocturne nest]

now safe mode and open this?

[livid idol]

Yes

[nocturne nest]

Same thing

It says it cant run

[hot folio]

OCF is the best possible AIB for a 6950xt right?

[vital oriole]

ye

Tends to be cheapest ironically enough

[feral wadi]

my friend has this issue where they blue screen on bootup after a couple minutes but never after, i figured it was a gpu issue so i had them install msi after burner to underclock, why is the memory this high

idk if this is right

[hot bough]

that's normal.

[feral wadi]

really? my gpu isnt even close to it and i have a 5700xt

[hot bough]

also blue screen I am pretty sure is to do with memory as that's what causes visual issues.

Core would result in crashing.

[feral wadi]

[hot bough]

I'd know since I've been tampering with my gpu all day long lmao.

[feral wadi]

lol

[vital oriole]

That memory clock is more like effective clock

Not actual true clockspeed btw

[hot bough]

Though tbf if not for all this OC I wouldn't be seeing an extra 30-35% frame increase xD.

[feral wadi]

ah that makes more sense

[vital oriole]

If it's a gpu issue, I would suggest trying DDU

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[feral wadi]

yeah i had them ddu

[vital oriole]

What was the bsod code?

[feral wadi]

er, if it happens again ill get that out of them

[hot bough]

now to test the bump in clock I just did.

🤞 it works.

[velvet grail]

Spins to life, that's a good sign

It's massive compared to the motherboard lol

[hot bough]

what gpu is that?

Looks old.

[velvet grail]

1080ti

[hot bough]

ahh explains.

[velvet grail]

Just got it a few days ago

[feral wadi]

Video_tdr_failure they said

[velvet grail]

This card still does its job fine

The left fan on the card makes a lot of noise

:(

[feral wadi]

get the butter

🧈

[velvet grail]

Good idea 💡

Wd40

May be better than butter

[vital oriole]

that code hm

well it's either the newest driver isn't stable