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Odd. I have latest discord I believe since auto update. I tried the Nvidia profile thingy and I didn't see a difference in afterburner.
This is with a 3080 12gb
Does riva tuner show effective clocks tho or normal clocks?
It only shows on effective iirc
From what I read a couple days ago, it was able to be seen in afterburner ui.
At least that's how they noticed.
Idk. I didn't know you could change which clocks afterburner was showing..
Not rtss
What rtss riva tuner?
Riva Tuner Statistics Server. It's what afterburner uses for the OSD.
i just checked on gpuz sensors tab on the second monitor
maybe you could try that as well
Yeah I was reading the reddit post and it says to look in hwinfo for effective clocks, but it also says that instant clocks are affected too.
200mhz is way too much
So what exactly is causing discord to reduce the clocks? Just bad coding?
maybe the av1 update? who knows?
Not me that's for sure.
i mean, you dont see it, but that doesnt mean that is not there
not like we run 2 different version of discord
I meant is rtss riva tuner like
I don't think I understand this question.
rtss IS Riva tuner
Unless you mean.. what is it like? Then I'm not sure what you mean by that either lol
That's what i was asking I wasn't sure of the acronym
I totally just woke up from an office chair nap. I can't handle this. 
Hm. Nope
I had to wrap muh groggy brain around that. It's the end of my work week. Leave me alone. 
Full name is Riva Tuner Statistics Server
Yes ik i just arcynom was not clicking I didn't sleep well
We take nap together? Not sus. We just sleep buddies
Is my GeForce RTX 2060 6gb compatible with my GIGABYTE B660M AORUS PRO AX DDR4 and my i5 13600kf?
Yes
bypassing the chat i see
but idk, if newegg isn't in service hours they won't provide any support
it's normal
the discord account isn't real time service
it's simply an account used between newegg support staff
?pato
Oh, now even character replacement won't allow the puns?
rlss = real life poopie service.
Lets see how long THAT lasts.
Does anyone have a suggestion for a gpu that is an upgrade to a 2070 S?
What budget?
at most 1k but ive been looking at the 6950 xt at 700
I originally only paid 500 for my card so everything now just feels kinda like a rip off in comparison
What resolution are you planning on gaming at and what power supply do you have?
1440p at 144hz and maybe 4k 60 occasionally
6950 would do that quite comfortably
But you'll want an A tier 750W power supply minimum, 850W if you have a high power cpu
It'll be a Thor or Loki then, nice unit
XTX is a waste for anything less than 4k 120hz
Same with the 4080
then 6950 is probably my best bet with the 7900 xt being kind of a joke
Pretty much yeah
id like rtx but honestly its something i notice for like 5 minutes and forget
Same. RT has potential to be great but it'll be a long time before then.
And by that point current hardware will be useless for it anyway
OCF is one of the best models
Taking this here since this is the proper channel
The bottom vbios is technically the one meant for my card
But should I try/would it be okay to try the top one?
Nvm the top one doesn't install
Wrong memory type
If that's accurate then you have Samsung memory but the one you asked about only has Hynix and Elpida support
Right
How would I force the bottom one to overwrite the already installed one
When I try to flash it it just says its already installs
I haven't used atiwinflash much so I don't remember the commands
Need, no. But it doesn't hurt anything.
It's required for resizable BAR but the RX 570 doesn't work with that anyway.
@lone pond You can try this bios, it allows a higher power limit and has a higher default clock speed while still using the Samsung memory. It's harder than I thought to find Samsung 4GB cards. https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/221873/221873
hmm
setting this gives me input not supported on my monitor but not my tv for some reason
is this safe to do?
There's some minor risk involved, as there is with any flashing. If it doesn't work you just flash the old version back.
alright
messing with vbios is always risky, you need to ask yourself if its worth the risk
just as with any flashing as falcie said π (wasnt paying attention)
I keep getting SSID mismatch error
and its not letting me (or admittedly I just dont know how) to change it
ROM ssid not found
ERROR: 0FL05
When trying to change the rom on the cards ssid to something else
π€
These coolers are serious overbuilt
455 watts and 70C on the lowest end zotac 4090? Like holy hecc
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We're revisiting the Intel Arc GPUs for the first time since they launched. Intel has been releasing slow and steady driver updates for a while now, but with the latest (4091) patching Dx9 performance issues in addition to prior patches for frametime consistency across all APIs (...
I forgot my card is one with the bios switch
it has two of them
idk how that'd effect things or what that would do
I know one is sometimes for silent/perf but then why two
A750...compelling 
Mayhaps
Soo little data for such a long video
Wasted all time on the frame time thing bruh the sample size has to be bigger
Frame times was a HUGE problem with arc previously
2070 is way too much
the xt variant
?
6600xt is between the 3060 and 60ti
but I thought the 6600 is 2060
two different cards: 6600 and 6600xt
π
what ravel said + the 6650xt is a lil bit better again
Yup. No regrets buying that myself.
Literally the only card I could get at msrp mid-shortage.
good times
my poor 750ti didnt made it into the chart 
GTX 700 is completely removed from the new edition of the chart too lol
3060 ti FE π
Those things STILL can barely be found at msrp
The pin is updated if you want to take a look
sad
no maxwell on the chart

btw the arc row is empty
and ill forward my complaints to demon
need maxwell there >.<
What do you guys think of the Intel Arc? Anyone used it yet?
It's getting better, A750 is starting to become a serious competitor to the 6600, especially after the price cut and recent driver improvements.
It's still not perfect but Intel is improving at a decent pace. Older games might still have problems but at least most of the game breaking bugs are fixed. One persistent issue is with lighting, multiple games get really weird bloom but you can fix it by adjusting the lighting settings down in game.
What would it be equivalent to like an Nvidia ___?
3060
Give it a couple more driver updates and tbh the A750 would be worth recommending
There's just a lot of teething issues rn
Besides lighting?
Ahh okay
Arc control and graphics command are just pepega still
The lighting issue will be one of the driver fixes coming. It's not game breaking so it's a moderate priority bug, they're focused on fixing specific games right now.
To say it's at parity with a 3060 or 6600/XT is good, it's a pretty confident estimate now
A770 probably won't be worth buying for a long time yet
Nah A770 is barely better than A750
a750 is good now?
"Good" as in it's not completely broken and compares well to the 6600 in most (modern) games
It would be a good time for someone curious to try it out I think
They're really cheap after all, with the price drop
Do I need to reinstall the drivers for Adrenaline if I switched from dedicated to integrated and they use the same driver version? π€
alright good to know
isnt that seriously game breaking that you have to turn down something with one gpu just to make it playable and not with the other two?
that sounds like coping with a bad gpu
Hey guys, quick question. Whatβs the difference between the ASRock and MSI 6950XT?
not much
Mostly just thermal and fan noise?
No, there's a difference between breaking the game and breaking a feature. Game breaking means you literally can't play it.
You have to turn an setting down to play it on arc but you don't have to do that with a 3060 or 6600xt let's say fps is not in the equation only looks of the game are then in that regard 3060 or 6600xt still wins
It's a downside and not a good look for Arc
"It's not a good look" sure, I never said it was fixed. Just "better".
I'm not recommending most people buy one, just the adventurous
250$ still can be a decent chunk for a lot of people and they deserve something a bit more stable and better that's all I am saying
A 3060 is a 3060 in pretty much every game but the performance of a arc card tier wise to other two brands seem to vary wildly
Think they recently made the update of choosing between the arc control being a overlay or not which is good
They're changing it back to a standalone app
These are all expected teething issues for Intel
intel is doing extremely well imo for no where near the same amount of time the other two have had in this field
They fix the vr issues?
yes
DX9 titles have seen jump of up to 46%
That's not really important these days but it's a good sign
R6S got like 80% bump since launch
I don't see why Intel would also give up on arc soon too
It's basically a byproduct of their HPC gpus
even tho it couldn't catch up to nvidia
their legacy improvements have honestly been amazing
It's down to how much money the CEO is willing to burn
the a770 is slowly looking more and more like a 3060ti/6700xt
In some titles yeah
I wanna see the day it consistently performs like 3070
Like raja has always claimed
it's a ways off a 3070
30x of broadwell-c
but in synthetics it kinda hits that
Hardware wise it should be a 6800?
Too bad too because I personally talked to one of the engineers and 3070 was their performance target
Absolute best is probably more like 3060ti in real gaming scenarios
Still not too shabby for what it is
hey when life gives you lemons drop the price a lil' 
And that's at 1440p where it loses lower amount of fps compared to 3060
I mean a 3060Ti can pass for a 1440p card
not as much vram as a770 tho
Exactly, make it as cheap as you can and sell at cost, the R&D will eventually pay for itself
Maybe not AAA titles
in a lot of cases better now
Problem is performing like a 3060 in every game possible 
also the 3060ti has 8gb I don't see the vram point
Also people with 3060ti tier gpus I hope they bring some 3090 level perf gpus for 500$ to upgrade to
doubt
ada has scaled linearly by price
just look at 4070ti
you want 3090 perf? it'll be a $700 4070 Super
that's the only hope you will get of having 3090 perf
Not til 60/9000 cards
or go to 4K and just experience 3090 perf on a 4070ti
Probably
399 ain't happening
We still don't even have a 4070 yet
$500 will be more like 3080 10gb perf
$600 3080 12gb
4070 with 3070 ti perf 
π
wouldn't surprise me at this point
gotta love the "progression"
thanks amd for being the part of this bad pricing
7900xt will always be an upsell
7800XT gonna be a 4070ti but a little less probs
They only had to be cheaper than the competition, they're making a healthy margin
it has been good as an architecture, but pricing is just
save for windows start menu bugging out
pain
Nvidia with their massive die have much higher costs than AMD with big/little die
Think some people are still complaining about idle power
yeah
you wouldn't worry about electricity bills at all
someone with 12400 or something wouldn't be able to afford top tier gpus
cause it probably costs more than their whole pc budget
unless they find banger deal on used one but that's a different case
Hey 12400+6950XT has been a killer combo lately
yeah cause the price is killer
Right up until 13th gen
only 600-700
that's easily doable in a not very high budget pc
something like 1.2k
12400 and 6800xt probably the most recommended build list I see in every server
I saw a 6800xt for below 600 a few days back
which one
that would be worth it
Gaming Z nice model
i wonder if ventus is also a thing with radeon cards
nope
Same class as mech
granted all 6000 series uses gddr6, so even ventus would be fine
hm, so mech i guess
gaming/gamingx/gaming z for radeon
same thing just diff name
msi shills nvidia
shills nvidia
makes the absolute worst nvidia aib card in the name of armor and ventus
it's just funny to think about it

msi also told people to get 4070ti instead cause 4080 pricing sucked
good guy msi'
whatever they can do to sell the gpus i guess
they right tho
Perf per dollar 4070ti does win
Barely a win but a win all the same
it's a fact but still suspicious coming from a company
they just wanna sell some stuff behind the facts
which is fair
they're not a charity
4070ti also better value then 7900xt imo
If you consider extra features to have value too sure
You turn frame gen on and you are comparing different class of products
i consider superior driver support as a feature, but i still won't like 4070ti
I really notice the AI frames personally
i only admire it having great perf
but other than that, the price is downright depressing
3080ti to 3090 perf for 800 is kinda ouch
i wouldn't complain if i have money for such pc ofc
Anyone have a good article about the new Intel Arc drivers?
I was looking at the A750
But all the older articles were based on older driver's
Drivers
gamers nexus has one on a770
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We're revisiting the Intel Arc GPUs for the first time since they launched. Intel has been releasing slow and steady driver updates for a while now, but with the latest (4091) patching Dx9 performance issues in addition to prior patches for frametime consistency across all APIs (...
Bad news I got the performance issues gain
I was gaming for 2 hours it was fine played 3 games with discord in a call and started having problems . Lol my temps are fine though
My gpu@power draw though drops a lot
From 264 to 127 lol
What gpu did you have again?
6900xt
Disabled hardware accel in discord?
mhm
dont mind the 11W i was hovering over the smallest one before gaming
why the fans are so fast when your clock is so low? maybe its an amd thing but im curious nonetheless
i mean, all of the readings are on the low side
except fan speed
Thatβs bc I alt tabbed for the clock
So I fixed the ossues
Whenever I have discord open and game discord causes me to get poor performance
still 70% fan speed at 35c is kinda... not needed
the more time your fans are spinning the more dust build up will land on your heatsink
but then again, that could be an amd feature as well...
my fans kick in if the gpu pass 60c... below that they are off
oh yea
i got a 6900xt what nvidia card is in similar performance or better that i can get.

okay so uh
randomly my gpu temps are not fine..?
my gotspot reach 100c and my normal hitting 78
My room is pretty dang hot though
Bc I have the heat on
Cheesus
yea.. wth
My room is pretty hot though woukd that effect it?
so hotspot is 92 regular tewmp is 72
^ Should i buy more fans i only have 4 3 tower fans and 1 rear exhaust this isnt inlcuding my cpu or gpu fans
i dont think more fans will help tho
that seems poor contact with the heatsink or just normal temps on amd... you need to wait for someone more knowledgeable on amd cards
alright ty
@solid glacier can you send us a video of the issues happening on screen please
I feel like at this point it's the blind leading the blind and we will repeat this loop yet again
i figured out the problem i think. so my room was pretty dang hot so my temps increased on my gpu
dang hot like 50c room temperature?
from what i remember is AMD CPU and GPUs run hotter
It depends
nah its like 75f in my room somtimes maybe lower
but yea idk if my temps are fine or not
i mean I RMAed it idk if they took it apart if they did im gonna flip
what do u think about my temps?
Getting very interested in low profile 75w- gpus but how does those fair over APUS?
As far as $/Perf
Neeeeevermind, thought apu's were farther along
which of these is best 75w's lps is best
Mid 90s hotspot will cause a little bit of throttling
6400?
yeah
in terms of the ones that are low profile and only daw power from the pcie slot
I know theres the A2000 but its hella expensive
Right, you might as well get a LP 1650
hows that video i sent just above? thats a new one, how do i stop the hotspot from getting hot? more fans? i only have 1 exhaust which is in my rear of my pc
Zip tie a 120mm fan to your GPU
or adjust fan profile
For double? π€
running stock fan profile is usually not optimal
6400 is 130 1650 is 210 - 230
gpu fans or tower fans
gpu
Well there's your problem, you have it maxed at 65% fan
80-85 if your room is warm yeah
which ones should be 80 85? that last 2
Yes
Could probably do 75 and 85 on the last two so it's not ramping up as fast
boom
tbh for the amount of money i spent on the pc i dont game as much..xD prolly gonna get into singleplayer games, thinking about getting hitman
Don't look at pcpartpicker for 3 generation old GPUs, they're really going for about the same price as the 6400, $140 on ebay.
So yeah just get the new 6400 so you get the warranty
Alright thank you!
this look good?
I've been doing a lot of that lately myself. I'm getting back into some of my old favorite genres, a bit of emulation too.
Yeah looks right
Multiplayer games suck for me right now because my ISP is t-mobile and we're having tower issues. My phone will disconnect mid-call. Downloads get reset due to loss of connection.
yea i feel ya on that i dealt with bad internet issues for like 4 years it sucked
It's been great for the most part up until this Winter. I think a storm damaged the tower.
We did get the first hurricane in California's recorded history after all
oh yea for sure
Can anyone recommend me a good GPU that's less than $500 & will go well with my 12600kf.
Playing several different military/shooter fps games like Modern Warfare, Battlefield, & some COD. Also may be playing games such Minecraft, Eve Online, Predator: Hunting Grounds, & etc.
Looking for 1080 FHD, 60 to even 120 fps. Will be using Blender too.
Ah, most people are recommending me RX 6700 or 6750 XT
Blender sucks on RDNA 2. Used 3060 Ti/2080 Super
i didn't look at the blender part, oop
It's one of Nvidia's final strongholds
Blender & RT
Idk why the devs of the software don't just try to make AMD cards work at this point, no reason for it now
Hell if you wanted to be a little unhinged, an A750 would absolutely destroy blender
Of all things Arc has a strong argument in this scenario
Not a complete argument for it tho, nvidia still kinda dominates this one specific application
I'd guess most of the money is commercial users with Nvidia workstation cards, and from there it's relatively easy to get rtx cards to work well
This gen nv only really has RT crown in RTX portal (laughable game) and the 4090/with dlss tbh
blender is an nvidia strength
it is one of the few ones left productivity wise rn
stuff like cad and video production amd are very much at parity with now

Hey I have a quick question. My pc has low cpu and gpu usage but still is getting great fps but should be higher compared to other peoples tests. Any thoughts?
3060 ti, and nearly every game. 1080p
nearly every game... there are like a chillion games out there.... which games do you play on your system?
some games are so easy on the gpu, some on the gpu and cpu, and some pound more one or the other
Valorant, Spider-Man remastered, Apex legends, Rust, CSGO, Horizon Zero Dawn To name a few. Itβs consistent across all games no matter more gpu or cpu focused. Wonβt get above 50% and gpu doesnβt get hotter than 50c which seems like a miracle but idk.
never oc or undervoletd your card?
Itβs oc
3060ti handles 1080p like a walk in the park, if you have great frames at the settings you play i shouldn't worry that much, even less if you have great temps too
most of those games you mention it should be above 100fps at max setting
Spider-Man remastered and horizon zero dawn are probably the most demanding games but are struggling to get 60+ fps no matter at high or low settingsβ¦ itβs so odd
what resolution?
oh 1080p
What CPU do you have?
13600k
do you have dual channel or single channel ram
I'd make sure that you have vsync turned off and that your monitor in Nvidia control panel and the windows display settings is set to the correct frame rate.
Dual, vsync is off, frame rate is correct
still a 3060ti+13600k are having a day in the park at 1080p
none is bottlenecking the other
yeah
as long as you are getting good fps then i wouldn't worry about 100% utilization anyway
still you should be above 100 on spiderman
thats odd indeed
On easier games like valorant and csgo i get around 300 which isnt something to complain but it should be able to be so much higher
Are your windows power settings set to performance?
same thing for zero dawn, that one should be above 100fps as well....
Ultimate
Yeah
very weird
can you share a screenshot of your overlay while playing those games? o.O
or your sensor tab on gpuz while running those
i had some crashes aswell when i boot on high settings but if i launch on low and tweak in game it works idk y
lmk what u think
kinda weird, everything seems ok, clocks, power draw even the perfomance cap
but why spidey and dawn is struggling at 60fps is beyond me
sometimes i launch also and get like 50-60 fps and other times its like 100 until a cutscene and then its 50-60 again
inconsistent
somewhere
yeah but its in every game
and in games like rust or cs its just like a 10% performance loss
you said that other games are 100+ and some even 300+
well other people test could be with overclocked cards
mine is oc tho
not the same thing but ok
ik
im saying ive tested both
Games like Valorant I should get 500 fps
i get like 300
in rust i should get like 160-170 on an empty server
i get like 100
oc doesnt do that much
Im trying to think what else it could be π
500fps on valorant high 1080p... unlikely
300 is doable, but not 500
on a 3060ti
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maybe your issue is driver related
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Are channels like these accurate?
Bro that's what I'm saying
I check many other sources and it seems about accurate tho
No statement on CPU being truly stock (stock mobo BIOS can "OC" a CPU with certain settings such as different freq/voltage graphs, power limits, multi core enhancement [max boost clock is applied to multi threaded loads instead of single threaded loads], etc), no statement of system memory (frequency, timings, rank setup, etc), no statement on OS being properly debloated, no statement on how many tests were done for consistency or margin of error, no statement on OS build version or driver version.
They can be accurate, but lot of unknown and unmanaged variables that can easily make these tests quite inaccurate.
Right that makes sense
not accurate but you can use them as reference
If you see 130fps on a benchmark, and your rig manage 110-120 then you are kinda ok, as hay said, maybe some oc here and there can give them those 10 fps boost
but 130 on a benchmark and your rig only pump 60... thats kinda odd
High just gotta turn the AA the down
That's the fps killer
Conclusion
my mobo is annoying af
I cant run my ram at correct speed
its 3600 kit and i put it at 3500
idk if thats bad to do but it runs lol
Sounds like you need to increase the voltage
Any good singleplayer games that recently came out
If you like xcom games then marvel midnight suns is supposed to be good
Dead space remake is good too
i like open world singleplayer games like assassins creed etc
Yeah I don't think there's any notable open world recent releases
i would say forspoken and dying light 2
expect dying light 2 didnt really come out recently
Everyone seems to hate forspoken
i got forspoken its meh
also Fal that new dp cord i got for my monitor it turns my monitor on and off lol-
it disconnects randomly
Hmm. could be a bad port then
Yea on my card or monitor
i just switched the cable around to see if that helps loll
ew, forsbroken
hi-fi rush... went under the radar... a jewel β€οΈ
Is it?
im halfway thru, so far, fun as hell
HiFi Rush's credit score is ForsakenByTheGods's credit score multiplied it by negative two.
-2 million * -2 = +4 million
proof that you dont need 4090 AAAA graphics to be fun and worth your time
plus the soundtrack is soo goood
I mean I'd kinda hope a rhythm games has good soundtrack. One of the main aspects.
touche
eh it isnt my type of game
then i think you should wait a lil longer for ac mirage
supposedly "back to the roots" of the ac series
or hogwarts next week if you are into that
That's the problem
No more big open worlds to have the exploration vibe
Yea I preordered Hogwarts #
Also the protagonist is basim 
yeah the no open world could backfire
potentially backfire
they are playing a dangerous gamble
Yeah Ac valhalla is a game it's easy to dump hundreds of hours into
Helps the longevity of game
plus they are charging premium for a linear game.... doesnt seem right to me
Also the cites seem dense and filled with npc I expect it to be quite heavy on cpus
probably a visual feedback setting should help on that
spiderman went that route anyway
FAL my fans at 85% speed is way to like loud lol sldoesnt sound great
Third option: noctua
T30 deshroud on a gigabyte 6900XT = total silence and good temps
The stock fans are only so loud because they have to spin so fast to make up for being so much slimmer than normal fans
Windforce effective but loud
t30 deshroud?
Take the plastic cover and fans off and strap T30 fans to it
idek how to do that or start i dont wanna mess it up lol ill stick with loud fans good temps
Kk
dont think that recommendation was serious
i can see it being very scary for the avg user
Best way to fix a GPU's temps without liquid cooling
Average users might be a little put off from the idea since you usually have to take off the entire cooler to do it
Scary sure but 15C drop? Worth
also 85% fan speed seems excessive if the gpu is being run stock probably could use a repaste
Anyone comfortable with a repaste should be comfortable with a deshroud
Yeah if you're gonna repaste then the deshroud is like 10 minutes extra
so on cold boots, my gpu works perfectly fine but the gpu fan refuses to spin for a while
I think it does eventually start spinning but
idk
That's normal behavior
Many modern GPUs have a zero rpm mode when it's cool, the fan only kicks on at around 50C
oh also unrelated but my damn pc has some random noise every time it turns on from a cold boot as well
sounds like rumbling essentially
it does stop eventually too
idk
it only started recently
System fans ramping up for the POST test probably. That's how the system knows what headers are occupied and whether they're DC or PWM.
GTX 1060 6 GB, 2016
So yeah maybe that makes sense now
it always scares me because the pc is janky enough as is
the panel isnt on there because I constantly need to check it
nothing fits properly since its a prebuilt
etc
anyway, thanks
I feel that pain. I started from a prebuilt I traded a friend for. He got my PS3, I got a phenom pc.
ok well the fan's on it seems
yeah what is that "rustling" (not saying it is rustling) noise that I hear from exclusively a cold boot as well?
i know it definitely isnt a fan lol
Most likely something is spinning up, like a hard drive
DVD drive?
Unplug the drive and see if it stops
Yeah that tracks for a dvd drive
eh I never use the dvd drive anyway
could just take it out and test it again
and not put it back in since I don't care
move to another channel btw?
sure, #building-and-recc-chat is general purpose
bro linus in xqcs stream
Fal that cabel i got might be to strong
bc it stills flashes black for a milisec
Also which slots shoukd@I plug my keybaord into
i got 2 cables for my keyboard loll
The 2.0 (black ones) are fine unless you have one of those ultra high polling rate deals
8kHz is ultra high
oh
yea idk why my monitor is flashing balack for milisecs randomly didnt with the oringally dp port cable maybe this cable isnt the right one lol
If you got a super cheap one it just might be bad too
Right right, those are normally fine
hmm
weird
then
Also i just found out my monitor has this?
a driver wthh
i dont think i need that i ondt use hdr
Monitor drivers are pretty common, mine use them too but usually gets them from Windows Update
Intel or AMD
yes
intel
What motherboard then? You're missing chipset drivers
Msi intel pro z690-A ddr4
Try it anyway
If it says you have it installed already or a newer version then we'll go from there
Ok so we do it the hard way
great
In device manager right click it and go to properties
Go to the details tab and select hardware IDs from the drop down
on the unknown device?>
On the base system device
Should look something like this
Looks like it might be a USB 4.0 controller
it doesnt even reconize any of the 2
gives me the option to update the base system device
is that for my mobo
Yes it's under "other"
windows 10?>
Yes
i didnt have this installed on my old windows
so in installed it
now what
soi i looked up msi afterburner shouldnt i have that installed since i got a msi mobo
I dont got these installed
That's for GPUs but it works for all brands
Ok cool
Now back to my monitor issue
Is there something i gatta do special with this cable bc its a 8k/4k cable
maybe its too strong for my moniitor
^ also should this be on high perforamnce
High performance is mostly for benchmarking
It keeps the processor from sleeping and saving power
oh okay
That's not a thing
hmm then it has to be the cable
It's either bad luck and the new cable is bad too or a bad port
I've had similar issues with using dual monitor for years
3 different GPUs, 3 different generations, all the same flicker
Im trying a new port on my gpu bc i got 2 hdmi and 2 dp
see if it happens still
If not im gucci
and ifit still happens i got another dp cable, i bought 2 of the ones u sent me
so noww it went completly black lol and then back on
just switched cables gonna see if it happens
is 61 temp for cpu bad
No
If it's idle that's a bit high
Doesn't really matter, if it's under 90c in use, it's probably not worth worrying about
is 70 C on gpu good for max setting on rust
it's fine
alr
70c is fine on any game.
How is the 7950x3D expected to perform against the 13900KS for gaming and workstation use?
We have no confirmation, but personally I believe it will all around be better
The 7950x already beats the 13900ks in multi core loads I believe
ya
should be all around faster than 13900ks
if the usual 3d cache perf trend follows
Really?
Thought the two were neck and neck currently.
What exactly is 3D cashe?
So instead of just spreading it out on a 2D plane it's also stacked making it into a 3d plane of memory?
What does the stacked memory do to cause the increase in performance?
Got it just looked it up so it's increasing the L3 cache within the CPU which helps with gaming but doesn't help with productivity workloads.
It can help in productivity, but not much
And well the increase in performance is to do with more fast memory being able to be used without increase in latency, since you have more within same die space
It immensely helps in games
Or tasks that are latency sensitive
We don't know how well the implementation is though
Half the cores will have extra l3 stacked on top, but therefore be harder to cool and therefore boosts worse, but the other half boosts higher but has less l3 cache
Feel like we need people to play around with it first
It's not so much the stacking that allows higher performance as much as it is it allows a MASSIVE increase in the amount of cache available to the cores.
Games love cache in general. Any time you're CPU bound (even a little) you will get more fps with more cache with few exceptions.
Gotcha.
The 7900X3D has more L3 cache than my first PC had memory
I miss that computer... Good times playing Starcraft
So your in your 30s?
Almost
Based that on my father when he got his computer. He was among the first to own a computer.
Mine was secondhand, my grandma gave it to me when I was 10. She upgraded from 98 to 2000 and gave me the old one lol.
Gotcha.
I'm glad I did grow up with that PC because I was swapping the CPU by the time I was 12
xD I had an ipad at the age of 3.
I grew up around tech my whole life.
Tech and fitness two things that normally never mix.
That's like my kids. They've claimed my Switch.
Well I am a start cooking see you guys in a bit.
I had an ipad 2 or 3 a while back. Ended up getting a decent $75 for it trading in at Bestbuy. 
My dad still uses his ipod touch (4?) from 2010. I remember playing MCPE on it till the metal backing got too hot to touch
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fNNMtn
Is this a better GPU than the one in my parts list? The 3060 ti vs. the RX6750 XT? https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-zt-a30610h-10mlhr/p/N82E16814500518
Part List - Intel Core i5-12600K, Radeon RX 6750 XT, Thermaltake Core V71 TG ATX Full Tower
No
Also i wouldn't buy a 12600k when it's basically a 13400 but more expensive hotter and overlclockable
Or spend 200$ on that case, do you actually need those slots?
Too late they already have it
I'd prefer a 12600k anyway personally, no locked SA to worry about so fast memory is fine
You make me feel better about having a 12600k.
I might be getting a 13600k as well. I probs shouldn't.. but I can't help myself.
ln2?
I mean, was it used for LN2 and then not needed?
I was gonna say this, but I figured I'd just ask in a different way.
I would like to get one from him. He said something about possibly having one he hasn't tested yet.
something about his bin rejects generally OC well on an ambient solution and not very well on LN2
Idk, he said it on the 30th. So possibly has.
nice lol
rip
Mhmmmmm
and how did you "not break it"?
oof
moisture on the board?
either way that really sucks
Wanted to double check, if I had 2 GPUs in one PC would I be able to use the 2nd one to run more monitors?
And would the games pick the more powerful GPU of the two to use.
Windows has an option for this
Yes, that's a common tactic to avoid multi monitor bugs. Grab an old, cheap workstation GPU to run the second monitor, and games will default to the primary GPU. You can select the render device in Nvidia settings.
It's the same effect as using an iGPU to run secondary monitors
That's because it starts throttling to keep the temperature down.
You can set the temperature target higher to alleviate that but you're much better off solving the actual problem instead.
Did you add any extra fans to your G360A or just the stock 3 fans?
Your case fans are on a curve right? Or static speed? Could try cranking those next.
Yea there on a fan curve
Im not sure what there set for speed wise i would have to go into bios to check
yea i have 1 rear exhaust fans thats it
Ok, if cranking the fans fails then moving the stock fans to exhaust and slapping 3 new high flow fans on the front might be in order
so take off the 3 fans that came with the case? and use them as exhaust and order 3 new high flow fans
That would be the next thing if pushing what fans you have to their limit isn't fixing it
That's the CPU fan
Looks like a static speed, that'll be around 50%
So change it?
Enable smart fan mode for the system fans
That'll put them on a curve according to the CPU temp
That should have them run faster
Do it for all 4?
Yep
Save and exit, test your temps
Cool bet
Yep the default curve is still higher than your default static speed
Oo bet so that means I only had my cpu fan curved and not my actual case fans π€£
Easy thing to overlook
ill run a apex game rn and see how the temps are
still getting same temps
Are the fans 3 pin or 4 pin
I would suggest a repaste
Turns out his front fans were on a static 50%
Poor die contact can give instability under load even if it's not reported. Experienced this first hand when the nt-h1 tube I had was faulty paste
I believe I mentioned this before
not sure what u mean by this
The plugs for the motherboard
Connected to the system fan headers
Well I guess it doesn't matter much but you could have quieter fans with better rpm control with 4 pin pwm fans
i think there 4
G360a front fans are pretty useless
Should i just order better ones ?
They're functional but they're not amazing by any stretch
Nah I wouldn't order new ones
You'll want to shift the curve to the left about 10 degrees and set the fans to pwm mode instead of DC
This is also true but I like to explore free solutions first lol
Well repaste is cheaper and easier than new fans
Set them all to PWM
Good. Shift the dots about 10 degrees left next. Your CPU doesn't get as hot when gaming so they still aren't spinning anywhere near max.
All 4?
Yep
Like all 4 dots
Yes
That way the curve isn't too steep. Sudden changes in fan speed are more noticeable than loud fans.
You should hear my Torrent 180mm fans ramping up on my board
My 140's get noisy yeah lol
Okay done
I had to cap their speed to 60% 
Cool. Give it another test now.
Yep looks good
temps are the same
Repaste gpu
what paste do i get
NT-H2
Spread it across the whole chip nice and even, don't miss a single spot. Unlike a cpu, missing a spot can kill a gpu if you aren't careful
But that's easily done, no such thing as too much paste
Gigabyte's stock paste is usually garbage
That doesn't sound too bad, but it'll likely be better with gpu repaste
Could also be ram
Or maybe psu
CPU unless you did some 5 minute overclock shouldn't be the cause
Again, unless the cpu has some quick overclock on it it's unlikely
I'll cross off ram too if it's a new kit
by a new kit its like a month old if that
Iirc the 6900xt has 8 sensors around the edge of the die, it will report the hottest edge
2nd set of this ram my first set went bad so i mean it could be my ram maybe this brand is just ass
If there's any instability from a high temp spot you'll get weirdness at high temps
Doesn't necessarily get picked up by the software
oh hm so waht do i do
do I download testmem5 to see if my ram is bad? or
After this long? If you swapped ram then it's not ram
Yeah that
Remember to also wipe the old paste clean
And carefully open the gpu, don't rip it apart with anything but extremely gentle.force
You don't want a cap to come off or chip
alright im gonna clean the pc first to see if that helps bc its dusty
Ok
I just ordered the paste
Got it, I will probs reuse my 3070 for that purpose then.
Pls just sell your 3070 and buy a cpu with an igpu or a 1030 or something instead of using it for a 2nd monitor π
No
Sorry mate but no, it's an EVGA.
Lol what
Plus, I can always reuse it for my brother when I decide to make him a PC.
No more EVGA GPUs.
So lol?
For my collection.
Too high, should be -20C
should be 0 kelvin tbh



