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fading glacier
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could be as well

hasty sphinx
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Odd. I have latest discord I believe since auto update. I tried the Nvidia profile thingy and I didn't see a difference in afterburner.

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This is with a 3080 12gb

heady turtle
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It only shows on effective iirc

hasty sphinx
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At least that's how they noticed.

heady turtle
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Was that with effective clocks or normal enabled?

hasty sphinx
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Idk. I didn't know you could change which clocks afterburner was showing..

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Not rtss

heady turtle
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What rtss riva tuner?

hasty sphinx
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Riva Tuner Statistics Server. It's what afterburner uses for the OSD.

fading glacier
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i just checked on gpuz sensors tab on the second monitor

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maybe you could try that as well

hasty sphinx
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Yeah I was reading the reddit post and it says to look in hwinfo for effective clocks, but it also says that instant clocks are affected too.

fading glacier
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200mhz is way too much

hasty sphinx
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So what exactly is causing discord to reduce the clocks? Just bad coding?

fading glacier
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maybe the av1 update? who knows?

hasty sphinx
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Not me that's for sure.

fading glacier
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i mean, you dont see it, but that doesnt mean that is not there

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not like we run 2 different version of discord

heady turtle
hasty sphinx
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rtss IS Riva tuner

odd siren
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But is it rtss

hasty sphinx
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Unless you mean.. what is it like? Then I'm not sure what you mean by that either lol

heady turtle
hasty sphinx
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I totally just woke up from an office chair nap. I can't handle this. PepeLmao

odd siren
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Its. Not. A hard. Question. Sir.

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IS IT RTSS!?

hasty sphinx
hasty sphinx
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I had to wrap muh groggy brain around that. It's the end of my work week. Leave me alone. kek

livid idol
heady turtle
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Yes ik i just arcynom was not clicking I didn't sleep well

hasty sphinx
heady turtle
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Nein

livid idol
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Nine hours?

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Or nein hours?

heady turtle
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More like 6

tiny kindle
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Is my GeForce RTX 2060 6gb compatible with my GIGABYTE B660M AORUS PRO AX DDR4 and my i5 13600kf?

keen nacelle
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Yes

vital oriole
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bypassing the chat i see

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but idk, if newegg isn't in service hours they won't provide any support

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it's normal

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the discord account isn't real time service

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it's simply an account used between newegg support staff

fading glacier
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?pato

delicate oyster
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Oh, now even character replacement won't allow the puns?

rlss = real life poopie service.

Lets see how long THAT lasts.

vital oriole
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oh i missed the pun

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lol

feral axle
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Does anyone have a suggestion for a gpu that is an upgrade to a 2070 S?

livid idol
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What budget?

feral axle
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at most 1k but ive been looking at the 6950 xt at 700

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I originally only paid 500 for my card so everything now just feels kinda like a rip off in comparison

livid idol
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What resolution are you planning on gaming at and what power supply do you have?

feral axle
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1440p at 144hz and maybe 4k 60 occasionally

livid idol
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6950 would do that quite comfortably

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But you'll want an A tier 750W power supply minimum, 850W if you have a high power cpu

feral axle
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i got a 850 platnium asus one that was on sale

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also debating getting the 7900 xtx

livid idol
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It'll be a Thor or Loki then, nice unit

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XTX is a waste for anything less than 4k 120hz

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Same with the 4080

feral axle
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then 6950 is probably my best bet with the 7900 xt being kind of a joke

livid idol
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Pretty much yeah

feral axle
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id like rtx but honestly its something i notice for like 5 minutes and forget

livid idol
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Same. RT has potential to be great but it'll be a long time before then.

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And by that point current hardware will be useless for it anyway

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OCF is one of the best models

lone pond
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Taking this here since this is the proper channel

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The bottom vbios is technically the one meant for my card

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But should I try/would it be okay to try the top one?

lone pond
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Nvm the top one doesn't install

livid idol
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Wrong memory type

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If that's accurate then you have Samsung memory but the one you asked about only has Hynix and Elpida support

lone pond
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Right

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How would I force the bottom one to overwrite the already installed one

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When I try to flash it it just says its already installs

livid idol
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I haven't used atiwinflash much so I don't remember the commands

lone pond
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I figured it out πŸ‘

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do I need this enabled?

livid idol
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Need, no. But it doesn't hurt anything.

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It's required for resizable BAR but the RX 570 doesn't work with that anyway.

livid idol
lone pond
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setting this gives me input not supported on my monitor but not my tv for some reason

livid idol
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There's some minor risk involved, as there is with any flashing. If it doesn't work you just flash the old version back.

lone pond
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alright

fading glacier
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messing with vbios is always risky, you need to ask yourself if its worth the risk

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just as with any flashing as falcie said πŸ˜› (wasnt paying attention)

lone pond
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I keep getting SSID mismatch error

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and its not letting me (or admittedly I just dont know how) to change it

oak rivet
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need to bypass it

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ik how to do it with nvflash might be different for amd gpus

lone pond
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ROM ssid not found

ERROR: 0FL05

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When trying to change the rom on the cards ssid to something else

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πŸ€”

quartz gull
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These coolers are serious overbuilt

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455 watts and 70C on the lowest end zotac 4090? Like holy hecc

heady turtle
lone pond
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it has two of them

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idk how that'd effect things or what that would do

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I know one is sometimes for silent/perf but then why two

odd siren
heady turtle
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Mayhaps

oak rivet
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Did they fix the dead space issue

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How can you be soo trash in a title like that

oak rivet
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Wasted all time on the frame time thing bruh the sample size has to be bigger

heady turtle
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Frame times was a HUGE problem with arc previously

vital oriole
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^

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especially with rebar off

exotic tulip
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What’s the equivalent of an rx6600

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Like as an nvidia card

fading glacier
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a 2060/2070 kinda

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no no, 2060/2060s

exotic tulip
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Ok

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ty

fading glacier
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2070 is way too much

exotic tulip
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What would be the equivalent of a 3060 as amd

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Tysm btw

fading glacier
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the xt variant

exotic tulip
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?

fading glacier
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6600xt is between the 3060 and 60ti

exotic tulip
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but I thought the 6600 is 2060

fading glacier
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two different cards: 6600 and 6600xt

exotic tulip
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ohhhhhhhhh

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Makes sense

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alright thanks so much

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This discord really helps out

fading glacier
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πŸ‘

solemn panther
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Mm

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It feels good to see my 3080ti way up there deviousfroge

livid idol
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Yup. No regrets buying that myself.

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Literally the only card I could get at msrp mid-shortage.

fading glacier
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good times

fading glacier
solemn panther
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someday youll have a better gpu than the 3080ti

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tech progress never stops

livid idol
heady turtle
livid idol
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Those things STILL can barely be found at msrp

fading glacier
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new edition of the chart

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i like how that sounds

livid idol
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The pin is updated if you want to take a look

fading glacier
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sad

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no maxwell on the chart

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btw the arc row is empty

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and ill forward my complaints to demon

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need maxwell there >.<

royal fox
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What do you guys think of the Intel Arc? Anyone used it yet?

cyan vault
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Playing the new Dead Space and this showed up

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But I have the drivers for it πŸ€”

fading glacier
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weird indeed

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well, reinstall drivers as they said

livid idol
# royal fox What do you guys think of the Intel Arc? Anyone used it yet?

It's getting better, A750 is starting to become a serious competitor to the 6600, especially after the price cut and recent driver improvements.
It's still not perfect but Intel is improving at a decent pace. Older games might still have problems but at least most of the game breaking bugs are fixed. One persistent issue is with lighting, multiple games get really weird bloom but you can fix it by adjusting the lighting settings down in game.

royal fox
livid idol
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3060

royal fox
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Oops

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Dang

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Appreciate you G

odd siren
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Give it a couple more driver updates and tbh the A750 would be worth recommending

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There's just a lot of teething issues rn

royal fox
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Besides lighting?

odd siren
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Performance wise we can say it's competitive

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Nah the software control

royal fox
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Ahh okay

odd siren
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Arc control and graphics command are just pepega still

livid idol
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The lighting issue will be one of the driver fixes coming. It's not game breaking so it's a moderate priority bug, they're focused on fixing specific games right now.

odd siren
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To say it's at parity with a 3060 or 6600/XT is good, it's a pretty confident estimate now

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A770 probably won't be worth buying for a long time yet

livid idol
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Nah A770 is barely better than A750

wraith pasture
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a750 is good now?

odd siren
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It's...worthy pepehmmm

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But still software bugs

livid idol
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"Good" as in it's not completely broken and compares well to the 6600 in most (modern) games

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It would be a good time for someone curious to try it out I think

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They're really cheap after all, with the price drop

lone pond
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Do I need to reinstall the drivers for Adrenaline if I switched from dedicated to integrated and they use the same driver version? πŸ€”

livid idol
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No

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But you can run DDU if you have issues, which are unlikely

lone pond
oak rivet
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that sounds like coping with a bad gpu

stone topaz
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Hey guys, quick question. What’s the difference between the ASRock and MSI 6950XT?

stone topaz
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Mostly just thermal and fan noise?

odd siren
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yeah?

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I mean unless we are talking oc formula

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that gpu is by far the best

livid idol
oak rivet
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It's a downside and not a good look for Arc

livid idol
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"It's not a good look" sure, I never said it was fixed. Just "better".

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I'm not recommending most people buy one, just the adventurous

oak rivet
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250$ still can be a decent chunk for a lot of people and they deserve something a bit more stable and better that's all I am saying

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A 3060 is a 3060 in pretty much every game but the performance of a arc card tier wise to other two brands seem to vary wildly

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Think they recently made the update of choosing between the arc control being a overlay or not which is good

livid idol
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They're changing it back to a standalone app

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These are all expected teething issues for Intel

odd siren
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intel is doing extremely well imo for no where near the same amount of time the other two have had in this field

vital oriole
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^

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They have been rapidly ironing out issues month after month

oak rivet
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They fix the vr issues?

livid idol
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yes

vital oriole
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DX9 titles have seen jump of up to 46%

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That's not really important these days but it's a good sign

livid idol
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R6S got like 80% bump since launch

vital oriole
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I don't see why Intel would also give up on arc soon too

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It's basically a byproduct of their HPC gpus

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even tho it couldn't catch up to nvidia

odd siren
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their legacy improvements have honestly been amazing

livid idol
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It's down to how much money the CEO is willing to burn

odd siren
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the a770 is slowly looking more and more like a 3060ti/6700xt

livid idol
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In some titles yeah

vital oriole
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I wanna see the day it consistently performs like 3070

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Like raja has always claimed

odd siren
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it's a ways off a 3070

vital oriole
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30x of broadwell-c

odd siren
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but in synthetics it kinda hits that

oak rivet
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Hardware wise it should be a 6800?

vital oriole
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No

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It couldn't

livid idol
vital oriole
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Absolute best is probably more like 3060ti in real gaming scenarios

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Still not too shabby for what it is

odd siren
oak rivet
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And that's at 1440p where it loses lower amount of fps compared to 3060

odd siren
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I mean a 3060Ti can pass for a 1440p card

vital oriole
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not as much vram as a770 tho

livid idol
vital oriole
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16 gigs

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it has double the amount

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8 is tight at 1440p

livid idol
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Esp 1440p high/ultra

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I hit 11GB sometimes

odd siren
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I mean, it's not really a high/ultra card tho

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would call it more entry 1440p

oak rivet
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At 1440p

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I would say its a 1080p ultra card if it performs like a 3060 in every game

livid idol
odd siren
oak rivet
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Problem is performing like a 3060 in every game possible kekw

odd siren
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also the 3060ti has 8gb I don't see the vram point

oak rivet
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Also people with 3060ti tier gpus I hope they bring some 3090 level perf gpus for 500$ to upgrade to

odd siren
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doubt

vital oriole
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lol

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nah

odd siren
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ada has scaled linearly by price

vital oriole
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just look at 4070ti

odd siren
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you want 3090 perf? it'll be a $700 4070 Super

vital oriole
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that's the only hope you will get of having 3090 perf

vital oriole
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or a super card ya

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no way it's gonna be $500

odd siren
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or go to 4K and just experience 3090 perf on a 4070ti

vital oriole
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500 is definitely price tag of 4060ti

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im saying it here

livid idol
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Probably

vital oriole
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399 ain't happening

livid idol
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We still don't even have a 4070 yet

odd siren
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$500 will be more like 3080 10gb perf

vital oriole
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$600 for 4070

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price is linear with perf

odd siren
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$600 3080 12gb

livid idol
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4070 with 3070 ti perf kekw

oak rivet
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πŸ’€

odd siren
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wouldn't surprise me at this point

vital oriole
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gotta love the "progression"

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thanks amd for being the part of this bad pricing

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7900xt will always be an upsell

odd siren
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7800XT gonna be a 4070ti but a little less probs

livid idol
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They only had to be cheaper than the competition, they're making a healthy margin

vital oriole
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ye lol

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dem margins

odd siren
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honestly rdna 3 been good tho

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very stable

vital oriole
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it has been good as an architecture, but pricing is just

odd siren
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save for windows start menu bugging out

vital oriole
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pain

livid idol
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Nvidia with their massive die have much higher costs than AMD with big/little die

vital oriole
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gpus this gen are great

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just not the price

oak rivet
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Think some people are still complaining about idle power

vital oriole
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it's fixed

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also lemme just reiterate

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if you're already spending lots on a gpu

odd siren
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yeah

vital oriole
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you wouldn't worry about electricity bills at all

odd siren
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you won't care about power

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yeah lol

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look at all the 3090 users πŸ’€

vital oriole
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someone with 12400 or something wouldn't be able to afford top tier gpus

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cause it probably costs more than their whole pc budget

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unless they find banger deal on used one but that's a different case

livid idol
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Hey 12400+6950XT has been a killer combo lately

vital oriole
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yeah cause the price is killer

livid idol
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Right up until 13th gen

vital oriole
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only 600-700

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that's easily doable in a not very high budget pc

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something like 1.2k

oak rivet
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12400 and 6800xt probably the most recommended build list I see in every server

livid idol
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6800 XT isn't as good of a deal comparatively

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But still not bad on the new market

vital oriole
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6950xt used to go as low as 600 bucks

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crazy times

odd siren
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6950 for 700 vs 6800xt for 609

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would def do 6950

oak rivet
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I saw a 6800xt for below 600 a few days back

odd siren
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which one

oak rivet
odd siren
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that would be worth it

livid idol
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Gaming Z nice model

vital oriole
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i wonder if ventus is also a thing with radeon cards

odd siren
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nope

livid idol
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Same class as mech

vital oriole
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granted all 6000 series uses gddr6, so even ventus would be fine

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hm, so mech i guess

odd siren
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gaming/gamingx/gaming z for radeon

vital oriole
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same thing just diff name

odd siren
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msi shills nvidia

vital oriole
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shills nvidia
makes the absolute worst nvidia aib card in the name of armor and ventus

odd siren
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mech also takes that trophy

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I mean

vital oriole
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it's just funny to think about it

odd siren
vital oriole
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msi also told people to get 4070ti instead cause 4080 pricing sucked

odd siren
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good guy msi'

vital oriole
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whatever they can do to sell the gpus i guess

odd siren
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they right tho

oak rivet
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Perf per dollar 4070ti does win

vital oriole
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ye

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just seems like an upsell kekw

livid idol
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Barely a win but a win all the same

vital oriole
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it's a fact but still suspicious coming from a company

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they just wanna sell some stuff behind the facts

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which is fair

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they're not a charity

oak rivet
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4070ti also better value then 7900xt imo

livid idol
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If you consider extra features to have value too sure

oak rivet
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You turn frame gen on and you are comparing different class of products

vital oriole
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i consider superior driver support as a feature, but i still won't like 4070ti

livid idol
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I really notice the AI frames personally

vital oriole
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i only admire it having great perf

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but other than that, the price is downright depressing

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3080ti to 3090 perf for 800 is kinda ouch

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i wouldn't complain if i have money for such pc ofc

ancient crystal
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Anyone have a good article about the new Intel Arc drivers?

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I was looking at the A750

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But all the older articles were based on older driver's

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Drivers

vital oriole
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gamers nexus has one on a770

livid idol
# ancient crystal Anyone have a good article about the new Intel Arc drivers?

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ancient crystal
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Thanks

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I needed this exact thing!

solid glacier
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I was gaming for 2 hours it was fine played 3 games with discord in a call and started having problems . Lol my temps are fine though

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My gpu@power draw though drops a lot

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From 264 to 127 lol

livid idol
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What gpu did you have again?

solid glacier
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6900xt

livid idol
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Disabled hardware accel in discord?

solid glacier
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mhm

solid glacier
solid glacier
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valorant

fading glacier
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why the fans are so fast when your clock is so low? maybe its an amd thing but im curious nonetheless

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i mean, all of the readings are on the low side

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except fan speed

solid glacier
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That’s bc I alt tabbed for the clock

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So I fixed the ossues

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Whenever I have discord open and game discord causes me to get poor performance

fading glacier
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still 70% fan speed at 35c is kinda... not needed

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the more time your fans are spinning the more dust build up will land on your heatsink

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but then again, that could be an amd feature as well...

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my fans kick in if the gpu pass 60c... below that they are off

solid glacier
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i got a 6900xt what nvidia card is in similar performance or better that i can get.

keen nacelle
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4070ti/3090+

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3080/ti/12gb are closish

fading glacier
solid glacier
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okay so uh

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randomly my gpu temps are not fine..?

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my gotspot reach 100c and my normal hitting 78

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My room is pretty dang hot though

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Bc I have the heat on

fading glacier
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Cheesus

solid glacier
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yea.. wth

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My room is pretty hot though woukd that effect it?

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so hotspot is 92 regular tewmp is 72

solid glacier
# fading glacier Cheesus

^ Should i buy more fans i only have 4 3 tower fans and 1 rear exhaust this isnt inlcuding my cpu or gpu fans

fading glacier
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i dont think more fans will help tho

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that seems poor contact with the heatsink or just normal temps on amd... you need to wait for someone more knowledgeable on amd cards

solid glacier
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alright ty

odd siren
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@solid glacier can you send us a video of the issues happening on screen please

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I feel like at this point it's the blind leading the blind and we will repeat this loop yet again

solid glacier
fading glacier
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dang hot like 50c room temperature?

blazing geyser
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from what i remember is AMD CPU and GPUs run hotter

livid idol
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It depends

solid glacier
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but yea idk if my temps are fine or not

solid glacier
solid glacier
lone pond
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Getting very interested in low profile 75w- gpus but how does those fair over APUS?

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As far as $/Perf

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Neeeeevermind, thought apu's were farther along

lone pond
solid glacier
livid idol
lone pond
livid idol
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RX 6400? That performs like a 1060 3gb on a good day

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Usually more like a 1650

lone pond
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in terms of the ones that are low profile and only daw power from the pcie slot

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I know theres the A2000 but its hella expensive

livid idol
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Right, you might as well get a LP 1650

solid glacier
vital oriole
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or adjust fan profile

lone pond
vital oriole
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running stock fan profile is usually not optimal

solid glacier
lone pond
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6400 is 130 1650 is 210 - 230

solid glacier
vital oriole
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gpu

livid idol
vital oriole
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^

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fan speed is far too low

solid glacier
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really?

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oop xD

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what should it be

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85?

livid idol
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80-85 if your room is warm yeah

solid glacier
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which ones should be 80 85? that last 2

livid idol
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Yes

vital oriole
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i hope that solves the stutters too

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gpu throttling mildly can impact perf

solid glacier
livid idol
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Could probably do 75 and 85 on the last two so it's not ramping up as fast

solid glacier
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boom

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tbh for the amount of money i spent on the pc i dont game as much..xD prolly gonna get into singleplayer games, thinking about getting hitman

livid idol
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So yeah just get the new 6400 so you get the warranty

lone pond
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Alright thank you!

solid glacier
livid idol
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Yeah looks right

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Multiplayer games suck for me right now because my ISP is t-mobile and we're having tower issues. My phone will disconnect mid-call. Downloads get reset due to loss of connection.

solid glacier
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yea i feel ya on that i dealt with bad internet issues for like 4 years it sucked

livid idol
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It's been great for the most part up until this Winter. I think a storm damaged the tower.

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We did get the first hurricane in California's recorded history after all

solid glacier
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oh yea for sure

lone pond
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Can anyone recommend me a good GPU that's less than $500 & will go well with my 12600kf.

Playing several different military/shooter fps games like Modern Warfare, Battlefield, & some COD. Also may be playing games such Minecraft, Eve Online, Predator: Hunting Grounds, & etc.

Looking for 1080 FHD, 60 to even 120 fps. Will be using Blender too.

vital oriole
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you can go for 3060ti or 6750xt just fine

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6800xt doable for below 500, maybe

lone pond
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Ah, most people are recommending me RX 6700 or 6750 XT

odd siren
vital oriole
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i didn't look at the blender part, oop

odd siren
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It's one of Nvidia's final strongholds

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Blender & RT

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Idk why the devs of the software don't just try to make AMD cards work at this point, no reason for it now

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Hell if you wanted to be a little unhinged, an A750 would absolutely destroy blender

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Of all things Arc has a strong argument in this scenario

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Not a complete argument for it tho, nvidia still kinda dominates this one specific application

random walrus
heady turtle
odd siren
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blender is an nvidia strength

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it is one of the few ones left productivity wise rn

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stuff like cad and video production amd are very much at parity with now

fading glacier
teal cairn
#

Hey I have a quick question. My pc has low cpu and gpu usage but still is getting great fps but should be higher compared to other peoples tests. Any thoughts?

fading glacier
#

more context plz, resolution and game?

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also gpu

teal cairn
#

3060 ti, and nearly every game. 1080p

fading glacier
#

nearly every game... there are like a chillion games out there.... which games do you play on your system?

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some games are so easy on the gpu, some on the gpu and cpu, and some pound more one or the other

teal cairn
#

Valorant, Spider-Man remastered, Apex legends, Rust, CSGO, Horizon Zero Dawn To name a few. It’s consistent across all games no matter more gpu or cpu focused. Won’t get above 50% and gpu doesn’t get hotter than 50c which seems like a miracle but idk.

fading glacier
#

never oc or undervoletd your card?

teal cairn
#

It’s oc

fading glacier
#

3060ti handles 1080p like a walk in the park, if you have great frames at the settings you play i shouldn't worry that much, even less if you have great temps too

#

most of those games you mention it should be above 100fps at max setting

teal cairn
#

Spider-Man remastered and horizon zero dawn are probably the most demanding games but are struggling to get 60+ fps no matter at high or low settings… it’s so odd

normal hawk
#

oh 1080p

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What CPU do you have?

teal cairn
#

13600k

normal hawk
#

do you have dual channel or single channel ram

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I'd make sure that you have vsync turned off and that your monitor in Nvidia control panel and the windows display settings is set to the correct frame rate.

teal cairn
#

Dual, vsync is off, frame rate is correct

fading glacier
#

still a 3060ti+13600k are having a day in the park at 1080p

#

none is bottlenecking the other

teal cairn
#

yeah

fading glacier
#

as long as you are getting good fps then i wouldn't worry about 100% utilization anyway

#

still you should be above 100 on spiderman

teal cairn
#

getting like 50-60 in spiderman remastered on High

#

yeah

fading glacier
#

thats odd indeed

teal cairn
#

On easier games like valorant and csgo i get around 300 which isnt something to complain but it should be able to be so much higher

normal hawk
#

Are your windows power settings set to performance?

fading glacier
#

same thing for zero dawn, that one should be above 100fps as well....

normal hawk
#

very weird

fading glacier
#

can you share a screenshot of your overlay while playing those games? o.O

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or your sensor tab on gpuz while running those

teal cairn
#

Yes 1 min

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@fading glacier

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psu problem?

fading glacier
#

no

#

if psu were the problem the whole pc just shut down

teal cairn
#

i had some crashes aswell when i boot on high settings but if i launch on low and tweak in game it works idk y

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lmk what u think

fading glacier
#

kinda weird, everything seems ok, clocks, power draw even the perfomance cap

#

but why spidey and dawn is struggling at 60fps is beyond me

teal cairn
#

sometimes i launch also and get like 50-60 fps and other times its like 100 until a cutscene and then its 50-60 again

fading glacier
#

ohhhhhh ok

#

could be that somehow you have an fps limit

teal cairn
#

inconsistent

fading glacier
#

somewhere

teal cairn
#

yeah but its in every game

#

and in games like rust or cs its just like a 10% performance loss

fading glacier
#

you said that other games are 100+ and some even 300+

teal cairn
#

compared to other people tests

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yeah

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Idk how it could be a cap

fading glacier
#

well other people test could be with overclocked cards

teal cairn
#

mine is oc tho

fading glacier
#

you oced?

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or factory oc?

teal cairn
#

ive tested oc and factory oc

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same thing

fading glacier
#

not the same thing but ok

teal cairn
#

ik

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im saying ive tested both

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Games like Valorant I should get 500 fps

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i get like 300

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in rust i should get like 160-170 on an empty server

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i get like 100

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oc doesnt do that much

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Im trying to think what else it could be πŸ˜‚

fading glacier
#

300 is doable, but not 500

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on a 3060ti

teal cairn
#

◽️ Benchmarking the i5-13600K with RTX 3060 Ti tested in 12 Games at 1080p

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fading glacier
#

well, i stand correcetd

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i was looking at the wrong benchmarks it seems

teal cairn
#

thats just one instance tbh

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Its just odd

fading glacier
#

yeah only think that i can think is to ddu your drivers and reinstall

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?ddu

neat ventureBOT
fading glacier
#

maybe your issue is driver related

teal cairn
#

πŸ‘

lone pond
teal cairn
#

Bro that's what I'm saying

#

I check many other sources and it seems about accurate tho

wicked hound
# lone pond Are channels like these accurate?

No statement on CPU being truly stock (stock mobo BIOS can "OC" a CPU with certain settings such as different freq/voltage graphs, power limits, multi core enhancement [max boost clock is applied to multi threaded loads instead of single threaded loads], etc), no statement of system memory (frequency, timings, rank setup, etc), no statement on OS being properly debloated, no statement on how many tests were done for consistency or margin of error, no statement on OS build version or driver version.

They can be accurate, but lot of unknown and unmanaged variables that can easily make these tests quite inaccurate.

fading glacier
#

not accurate but you can use them as reference

#

If you see 130fps on a benchmark, and your rig manage 110-120 then you are kinda ok, as hay said, maybe some oc here and there can give them those 10 fps boost

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but 130 on a benchmark and your rig only pump 60... thats kinda odd

oak rivet
#

That's the fps killer

teal cairn
#

Conclusion

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my mobo is annoying af

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I cant run my ram at correct speed

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its 3600 kit and i put it at 3500

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idk if thats bad to do but it runs lol

livid idol
#

Sounds like you need to increase the voltage

solid glacier
#

Any good singleplayer games that recently came out

livid idol
#

If you like xcom games then marvel midnight suns is supposed to be good

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Dead space remake is good too

solid glacier
#

i like open world singleplayer games like assassins creed etc

livid idol
#

Yeah I don't think there's any notable open world recent releases

oak rivet
#

expect dying light 2 didnt really come out recently

livid idol
#

Everyone seems to hate forspoken

solid glacier
#

i got forspoken its meh

#

also Fal that new dp cord i got for my monitor it turns my monitor on and off lol-

#

it disconnects randomly

livid idol
#

Hmm. could be a bad port then

solid glacier
#

Yea on my card or monitor

#

i just switched the cable around to see if that helps loll

fading glacier
fading glacier
fading glacier
#

im halfway thru, so far, fun as hell

wicked hound
#

HiFi Rush's credit score is ForsakenByTheGods's credit score multiplied it by negative two.
-2 million * -2 = +4 million

fading glacier
#

proof that you dont need 4090 AAAA graphics to be fun and worth your time

#

plus the soundtrack is soo goood

wicked hound
#

I mean I'd kinda hope a rhythm games has good soundtrack. One of the main aspects.

fading glacier
#

touche

solid glacier
#

eh it isnt my type of game

fading glacier
#

then i think you should wait a lil longer for ac mirage

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supposedly "back to the roots" of the ac series

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or hogwarts next week if you are into that

oak rivet
#

No more big open worlds to have the exploration vibe

odd siren
#

I am going to play Pharoah remake

solid glacier
#

Yea I preordered Hogwarts #

oak rivet
#

Also the protagonist is basim kekw

fading glacier
#

yeah the no open world could backfire

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potentially backfire

#

they are playing a dangerous gamble

oak rivet
#

Yeah Ac valhalla is a game it's easy to dump hundreds of hours into

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Helps the longevity of game

fading glacier
#

plus they are charging premium for a linear game.... doesnt seem right to me

oak rivet
#

Also the cites seem dense and filled with npc I expect it to be quite heavy on cpus

fading glacier
#

probably a visual feedback setting should help on that

#

spiderman went that route anyway

oak rivet
solid glacier
#

FAL my fans at 85% speed is way to like loud lol sldoesnt sound great

livid idol
#

Overheating or silence, pick one

#

High end gamer's dilemma

cerulean rover
#

Third option: noctua

livid idol
#

(no that's not a typo kekw )

#

I did also suggest zip tying a 120mm fan to it

odd siren
#

T30 deshroud on a gigabyte 6900XT = total silence and good temps

livid idol
#

The stock fans are only so loud because they have to spin so fast to make up for being so much slimmer than normal fans

odd siren
#

Windforce effective but loud

livid idol
#

Take the plastic cover and fans off and strap T30 fans to it

odd siren
#

^

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Repaste with like NT H2 or MX4/MX6

#

Ez done

solid glacier
#

idek how to do that or start i dont wanna mess it up lol ill stick with loud fans good temps

odd siren
#

Kk

oak rivet
#

dont think that recommendation was serious

odd siren
#

It was

#

I've literally done it

oak rivet
#

i can see it being very scary for the avg user

livid idol
#

Best way to fix a GPU's temps without liquid cooling

#

Average users might be a little put off from the idea since you usually have to take off the entire cooler to do it

odd siren
#

Scary sure but 15C drop? Worth

oak rivet
#

also 85% fan speed seems excessive if the gpu is being run stock probably could use a repaste

livid idol
#

Anyone comfortable with a repaste should be comfortable with a deshroud

odd siren
#

Yeah if you're gonna repaste then the deshroud is like 10 minutes extra

sturdy storm
#

so on cold boots, my gpu works perfectly fine but the gpu fan refuses to spin for a while

#

I think it does eventually start spinning but

#

idk

livid idol
#

That's normal behavior

sturdy storm
#

oh

#

so its just warming up then?

livid idol
#

Many modern GPUs have a zero rpm mode when it's cool, the fan only kicks on at around 50C

sturdy storm
#

oh also unrelated but my damn pc has some random noise every time it turns on from a cold boot as well

#

sounds like rumbling essentially

#

it does stop eventually too

#

idk

#

it only started recently

livid idol
#

System fans ramping up for the POST test probably. That's how the system knows what headers are occupied and whether they're DC or PWM.

sturdy storm
#

it always scares me because the pc is janky enough as is

#

the panel isnt on there because I constantly need to check it
nothing fits properly since its a prebuilt
etc

#

anyway, thanks

livid idol
#

I feel that pain. I started from a prebuilt I traded a friend for. He got my PS3, I got a phenom pc.

sturdy storm
#

ok well the fan's on it seems

#

yeah what is that "rustling" (not saying it is rustling) noise that I hear from exclusively a cold boot as well?

#

i know it definitely isnt a fan lol

livid idol
#

Most likely something is spinning up, like a hard drive

sturdy storm
#

no hard drive

#

just an ssd

livid idol
#

DVD drive?

sturdy storm
#

okay I didnt think about that one

#

but its only cold boots so I don't get it either

livid idol
#

Unplug the drive and see if it stops

sturdy storm
#

the noise stops itself after a while

#

quieting down eventually

#

fairly quickly too

livid idol
#

Yeah that tracks for a dvd drive

sturdy storm
#

guess I know that one too

#

just never happened before until a few boots ago so idk ablobsweats

livid idol
#

Maybe the motor is going out

#

They do tend to make more noise before they die

sturdy storm
#

eh I never use the dvd drive anyway

#

could just take it out and test it again

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and not put it back in since I don't care

#

move to another channel btw?

livid idol
solid glacier
#

bro linus in xqcs stream

solid glacier
#

Fal that cabel i got might be to strong

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bc it stills flashes black for a milisec

#

Also which slots shoukd@I plug my keybaord into

solid glacier
livid idol
#

The 2.0 (black ones) are fine unless you have one of those ultra high polling rate deals

solid glacier
#

my mouse can pull up t 1k hz

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i have it set to 500hz

livid idol
#

That's not ultra high

#

That's normal

solid glacier
#

but my mouse is plugged into my keyboard

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oh okay cool

livid idol
#

8kHz is ultra high

solid glacier
#

oh

#

yea idk why my monitor is flashing balack for milisecs randomly didnt with the oringally dp port cable maybe this cable isnt the right one lol

livid idol
#

If you got a super cheap one it just might be bad too

livid idol
#

Right right, those are normally fine

solid glacier
#

hmm

#

weird

#

then

#

Also i just found out my monitor has this?

#

a driver wthh

#

i dont think i need that i ondt use hdr

livid idol
#

Monitor drivers are pretty common, mine use them too but usually gets them from Windows Update

solid glacier
#

for cpu?

#

or like

livid idol
#

yes

solid glacier
#

intel

livid idol
#

What motherboard then? You're missing chipset drivers

solid glacier
#

Msi intel pro z690-A ddr4

solid glacier
#

I might have those

#

installed

livid idol
#

Try it anyway

#

If it says you have it installed already or a newer version then we'll go from there

solid glacier
#

got it already

livid idol
#

Ok so we do it the hard way

solid glacier
#

great

livid idol
#

In device manager right click it and go to properties

#

Go to the details tab and select hardware IDs from the drop down

solid glacier
#

on the unknown device?>

livid idol
#

On the base system device

#

Should look something like this

#

Looks like it might be a USB 4.0 controller

solid glacier
#

it doesnt even reconize any of the 2

#

gives me the option to update the base system device

livid idol
#

Yeah I had to look the ID up on a database

#

That's hard mode lol

solid glacier
#

is that for my mobo

livid idol
#

Yes it's under "other"

solid glacier
#

windows 10?>

livid idol
#

Yes

solid glacier
#

i didnt have this installed on my old windows

#

so in installed it

#

now what

#

soi i looked up msi afterburner shouldnt i have that installed since i got a msi mobo

#

I dont got these installed

livid idol
solid glacier
#

okay i installed both of those

#

and now i dont se other devices

livid idol
#

Ok cool

solid glacier
#

Now back to my monitor issue

#

Is there something i gatta do special with this cable bc its a 8k/4k cable

#

maybe its too strong for my moniitor

solid glacier
livid idol
#

High performance is mostly for benchmarking

#

It keeps the processor from sleeping and saving power

solid glacier
#

oh okay

livid idol
solid glacier
#

hmm then it has to be the cable

livid idol
#

It's either bad luck and the new cable is bad too or a bad port

#

I've had similar issues with using dual monitor for years

#

3 different GPUs, 3 different generations, all the same flicker

solid glacier
#

Im trying a new port on my gpu bc i got 2 hdmi and 2 dp

#

see if it happens still

#

If not im gucci

#

and ifit still happens i got another dp cable, i bought 2 of the ones u sent me

#

so noww it went completly black lol and then back on

#

just switched cables gonna see if it happens

solid glacier
#

@livid idol

#

bvmm

#

nvmm

solid glacier
#

is 61 temp for cpu bad

keen nacelle
#

No

sullen panther
#

If it's idle that's a bit high

cerulean rover
#

Doesn't really matter, if it's under 90c in use, it's probably not worth worrying about

nocturne nest
#

is 70 C on gpu good for max setting on rust

cerulean rover
#

it's fine

nocturne nest
#

alr

hot bough
hot bough
#

How is the 7950x3D expected to perform against the 13900KS for gaming and workstation use?

keen nacelle
#

The 7950x already beats the 13900ks in multi core loads I believe

vital oriole
#

ya

#

should be all around faster than 13900ks

#

if the usual 3d cache perf trend follows

hot bough
#

Thought the two were neck and neck currently.

hot bough
vital oriole
#

it's cache memory but stacked

#

denser within same space

hot bough
#

So instead of just spreading it out on a 2D plane it's also stacked making it into a 3d plane of memory?

#

What does the stacked memory do to cause the increase in performance?

#

Got it just looked it up so it's increasing the L3 cache within the CPU which helps with gaming but doesn't help with productivity workloads.

vital oriole
#

It can help in productivity, but not much

#

And well the increase in performance is to do with more fast memory being able to be used without increase in latency, since you have more within same die space

#

It immensely helps in games

#

Or tasks that are latency sensitive

cerulean rover
#

We don't know how well the implementation is though

#

Half the cores will have extra l3 stacked on top, but therefore be harder to cool and therefore boosts worse, but the other half boosts higher but has less l3 cache

#

Feel like we need people to play around with it first

hot bough
#

I see.

#

Also I just now realized I asked this in the wrong channel lmao.

livid idol
hot bough
#

Gotcha.

livid idol
#

The 7900X3D has more L3 cache than my first PC had memory

#

I miss that computer... Good times playing Starcraft

hot bough
#

So your in your 30s?

livid idol
#

Almost

hot bough
#

Based that on my father when he got his computer. He was among the first to own a computer.

livid idol
#

Mine was secondhand, my grandma gave it to me when I was 10. She upgraded from 98 to 2000 and gave me the old one lol.

livid idol
#

I'm glad I did grow up with that PC because I was swapping the CPU by the time I was 12

hot bough
#

xD I had an ipad at the age of 3.

#

I grew up around tech my whole life.

#

Tech and fitness two things that normally never mix.

livid idol
#

That's like my kids. They've claimed my Switch.

hot bough
#

Well I am a start cooking see you guys in a bit.

ivory herald
#

I had an ipad 2 or 3 a while back. Ended up getting a decent $75 for it trading in at Bestbuy. kek

random walrus
#

My dad still uses his ipod touch (4?) from 2010. I remember playing MCPE on it till the metal backing got too hot to touch

lone pond
keen nacelle
#

No

heady turtle
#

Also i wouldn't buy a 12600k when it's basically a 13400 but more expensive hotter and overlclockable

#

Or spend 200$ on that case, do you actually need those slots?

livid idol
#

I'd prefer a 12600k anyway personally, no locked SA to worry about so fast memory is fine

hasty sphinx
#

I might be getting a 13600k as well. I probs shouldn't.. but I can't help myself.

#

ln2?

#

I mean, was it used for LN2 and then not needed?

#

I was gonna say this, but I figured I'd just ask in a different way.

#

I would like to get one from him. He said something about possibly having one he hasn't tested yet.

#

something about his bin rejects generally OC well on an ambient solution and not very well on LN2

#

Idk, he said it on the 30th. So possibly has.

#

nice lol

#

rip

#

Mhmmmmm

#

and how did you "not break it"?

#

oof

#

moisture on the board?

#

either way that really sucks

wraith pasture
hot bough
#

Wanted to double check, if I had 2 GPUs in one PC would I be able to use the 2nd one to run more monitors?

#

And would the games pick the more powerful GPU of the two to use.

lone pond
oak rivet
livid idol
#

It's the same effect as using an iGPU to run secondary monitors

solid glacier
#

My gpu temps aren’t good

#

When my hot spot reaches 90c I get bad performance

livid idol
#

Did you add any extra fans to your G360A or just the stock 3 fans?
Your case fans are on a curve right? Or static speed? Could try cranking those next.

solid glacier
#

Yea there on a fan curve

#

Im not sure what there set for speed wise i would have to go into bios to check

solid glacier
livid idol
#

Ok, if cranking the fans fails then moving the stock fans to exhaust and slapping 3 new high flow fans on the front might be in order

solid glacier
livid idol
#

That would be the next thing if pushing what fans you have to their limit isn't fixing it

solid glacier
livid idol
#

That's the CPU fan

solid glacier
livid idol
#

Looks like a static speed, that'll be around 50%

solid glacier
#

So change it?

livid idol
#

Enable smart fan mode for the system fans

#

That'll put them on a curve according to the CPU temp

solid glacier
livid idol
#

That should have them run faster

solid glacier
#

Do it for all 4?

livid idol
#

Yep

solid glacier
#

Then what

#

Keep them all like that^

livid idol
#

Save and exit, test your temps

solid glacier
#

Cool bet

livid idol
#

Yep the default curve is still higher than your default static speed

solid glacier
#

Oo bet so that means I only had my cpu fan curved and not my actual case fans 🀣

livid idol
#

Easy thing to overlook

solid glacier
#

ill run a apex game rn and see how the temps are

solid glacier
livid idol
#

Are the fans 3 pin or 4 pin

odd siren
#

I would suggest a repaste

livid idol
odd siren
#

Poor die contact can give instability under load even if it's not reported. Experienced this first hand when the nt-h1 tube I had was faulty paste

#

I believe I mentioned this before

solid glacier
livid idol
#

The plugs for the motherboard

#

Connected to the system fan headers

#

Well I guess it doesn't matter much but you could have quieter fans with better rpm control with 4 pin pwm fans

solid glacier
#

i think there 4

odd siren
#

G360a front fans are pretty useless

solid glacier
#

Should i just order better ones ?

odd siren
#

They're functional but they're not amazing by any stretch

#

Nah I wouldn't order new ones

livid idol
#

You'll want to shift the curve to the left about 10 degrees and set the fans to pwm mode instead of DC

odd siren
#

Just repaste the gpu

#

Literally gigabyte stock paste sucks

livid idol
#

This is also true but I like to explore free solutions first lol

solid glacier
odd siren
#

Well repaste is cheaper and easier than new fans

solid glacier
#

Set them all to PWM

livid idol
#

Good. Shift the dots about 10 degrees left next. Your CPU doesn't get as hot when gaming so they still aren't spinning anywhere near max.

solid glacier
#

All 4?

livid idol
#

Yep

solid glacier
#

Like all 4 dots

livid idol
#

Yes

solid glacier
livid idol
#

That way the curve isn't too steep. Sudden changes in fan speed are more noticeable than loud fans.

odd siren
#

Msi has a really slow fan ramp

#

Lol

#

At least in my experience

livid idol
#

You should hear my Torrent 180mm fans ramping up on my board

odd siren
#

My 140's get noisy yeah lol

solid glacier
#

Okay done

livid idol
#

I had to cap their speed to 60% kekw

solid glacier
livid idol
#

Cool. Give it another test now.

solid glacier
livid idol
#

Yep looks good

solid glacier
odd siren
#

Repaste gpu

solid glacier
#

what paste do i get

odd siren
#

NT-H2

#

Spread it across the whole chip nice and even, don't miss a single spot. Unlike a cpu, missing a spot can kill a gpu if you aren't careful

#

But that's easily done, no such thing as too much paste

#

Gigabyte's stock paste is usually garbage

solid glacier
#

my hotspot reached 88 my reg temp is 67

#

Maybe my cpu needs to be repasted

odd siren
#

That doesn't sound too bad, but it'll likely be better with gpu repaste

#

Could also be ram

#

Or maybe psu

#

CPU unless you did some 5 minute overclock shouldn't be the cause

solid glacier
#

hm

#

my cpu was hitting 55c plus

#

my ram is fine i think

#

its a brand new set

odd siren
#

Again, unless the cpu has some quick overclock on it it's unlikely

#

I'll cross off ram too if it's a new kit

solid glacier
#

by a new kit its like a month old if that

odd siren
#

Iirc the 6900xt has 8 sensors around the edge of the die, it will report the hottest edge

solid glacier
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2nd set of this ram my first set went bad so i mean it could be my ram maybe this brand is just ass

odd siren
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If there's any instability from a high temp spot you'll get weirdness at high temps

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Doesn't necessarily get picked up by the software

solid glacier
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do I download testmem5 to see if my ram is bad? or

odd siren
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Repaste gpu imo

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Nah

solid glacier
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alrigfht

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this

odd siren
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After this long? If you swapped ram then it's not ram

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Yeah that

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Remember to also wipe the old paste clean

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And carefully open the gpu, don't rip it apart with anything but extremely gentle.force

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You don't want a cap to come off or chip

solid glacier
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alright im gonna clean the pc first to see if that helps bc its dusty

odd siren
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Ok

solid glacier
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I just ordered the paste

hot bough
heady turtle
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Pls just sell your 3070 and buy a cpu with an igpu or a 1030 or something instead of using it for a 2nd monitor πŸ’€

solid glacier
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IS 67C To hot for a cpu?

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and high 55c

keen nacelle
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No

heady turtle
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Lol what

hot bough
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Plus, I can always reuse it for my brother when I decide to make him a PC.

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No more EVGA GPUs.

heady turtle
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So lol?

hot bough
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For my collection.

solid glacier
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i might have bad ram

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lol

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again

hot folio
keen nacelle
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should be 0 kelvin tbh