I think it was like 4 days ago?
#graphics-cards
livid idol
If you had the same issue before that DDU then it's likely not the drivers
It's worth doing another run
cyan vault
Well I had the issue, did DDU, was fine, updated no DDU, bad again
But I never played the problem games
Which is only 2 😭
Found a similar problem on the same game someone else had
oak rivet
Sounds like 0 dB mode
charred raft
Is a open box 6700xt for $250 sus or safe? It's a sapphire pulse
nocturne nest
What site
charred raft
FB marketplace, local pickup only
heady turtle
Is a open box 6700xt for $250 sus or safe? It's a sapphire pulse
Depends on the listing i guess but sounds reasonable since they go for like 350 new and are like 2 years old at this point
hasty monolith
My best friend has a 3060ti he wants to game in 4k60. His budget is like 500usd for only the gpu. There isnt any way of getting a 3080 or 6800 or xt for that price maybe in the used market
heady turtle
I mean selling the 3060 ti and adding that to the 500 would get him enough for a 6950xt or 4070 ti if he cares about RT
keen nacelle
^
hasty monolith
I mean selling the 3060 ti and adding that to the 500 would get him enough for a...
Thanks. He has a prebuilt he needs to upgrade his ram and his psu as well. Only have 6 gig ram
hasty monolith
Wait so he's still on ddr3 then??
Ddr4
heady turtle
Did you mean 8gb then because they don't make 2gb ddr4 sticks and they only makes sizes that are a number to the power of 2 eg 1, 2, 4,8,16
hasty monolith
Did you mean 8gb then because they don't make 2gb ddr4 sticks and they only make...
Probably 8. He probably should get 16 or 32 gig to game at 4k as well getting at least 650 to 850 psu
heady turtle
I'd get 32gb for a premium build like that
Good idea, make sure it's a good model tho
hasty monolith
Doesnt have m2 drive he has hdd. Should he get pcie m2 adapter
heady turtle
His motherboard doesn't have an m.2 slot? And they don't even have a ssd
vital oriole
pcie m.2 adapter wouldn't boot anyway
it'll only work for storage on pre nvme platform
hasty monolith
pcie m.2 adapter wouldn't boot anyway
For his games
heady turtle
What cpu do they have? Most semi modern motherboards have m.2 slots
vital oriole
that would eliminate the gains of having an ssd
heady turtle
And at least get a sata ssd for windows hdds suck for boot drive yucky
heady turtle
Yeah, chrome os actually runs smooth as hell off a hdd tho ngl
hasty monolith
Thx alot @heady turtle and @vital oriole
heady turtle
You're welcome
quaint obsidian
i’m looking to upgrade my gpu soon from my 5700XT. i game at 1440p and i was looking at the 3060ti because i don’t want to go AMD again because of the bad experiences i’ve had with the 5700. i know that the 6700XT is far better price/performance ratio, but i’m worried that it’s not going to be as stable as the 3060ti is with drivers and oculus link because amd’s H.264 encoders are known to be trash, any advice would be appreciated
sonic mural
I would reccomend stepping up higher than a 3060ti if you aren't happy with current gaming performance, as 5700xt sits somewhere between a 3060 and 3060ti
6800(xt) would be worthwhile to look into
hasty monolith
6800(xt) would be worthwhile to look into
have that for around a month no issue in gaming. no vr anything like that though
keen nacelle
i’m looking to upgrade my gpu soon from my 5700XT. i game at 1440p and i was loo...
As Ryan said, 3060 ti isn't much of a boost over the 5700xt
Around 20% if I had to hazard a guess
sonic mural
Around 20% if I had to hazard a guess
bet its less than that
actually 20% seems somewhat close
keen nacelle
It's just a guesstimate, since 3060 is around 30% worse than the 3060 ti, and 5700xt is a lil bit better than the 3060
lone pond
50-60 at most
oof
There goes that plan sort of lol
Was gonna sell it and use it for a good majority of the cost of something new but that doesn't seem plausible with that 😭
lone pond
has there been any reports of 4080 cables melting or just the 4090s?
fading glacier
just the 4090s, and most of them were user error
by the time the 4080 launched the issue was already solved
odd siren
As long as you plug it all the way and make triple sure of it, nothing should happen
brittle sentinel
whats the best brand to get a 30 series gpu from
keen nacelle
Brand is irrelevant
brittle sentinel
well any suggestions on what 30 series gpu i should get
brittle sentinel
new U.S. and im trying to stay under 1k for a gpu
keen nacelle
4070 ti
keen nacelle
new U.S. and im trying to stay under 1k for a gpu
brittle sentinel
its too large for my case
keen nacelle
What case?
keen nacelle
I'd also replace that psu though
Even if you went with a lower tier gpu
Also just to make sure, when you replace a psu you want to switch out all the cables from the old one
sonic mural
I'd also replace that psu though
What PSU is it?
keen nacelle
They sent a pcp list
brittle sentinel
i alr have the psu case mobo and fans so i can replace the psu
but i js changed the gpu to a 3070 ti
i might need to send a new link
cerulean rover
3070ti is quite a bit worse than 4070ti btw
brittle sentinel
cerulean rover
oh boy
brittle sentinel
3070ti is quite a bit worse than 4070ti btw
better for a low budget tho
cerulean rover
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HJwMNc
how much of this do you already have other than psu case and mobo?
most of that makes no sense unless you already have it
brittle sentinel
how
cerulean rover
better for a low budget tho
judging by the list, you can shave a lot of money off other places to fit in a 4070ti for on average about 40% improvement
brittle sentinel
the 4070 doesnt fit in the case
cerulean rover
This fits https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vTbTwP/zotac-gaming-trinity-oc-geforc...
This one does
Meshify C specs
GPU specs
brittle sentinel
so what should i change out
cerulean rover
Everything other than the case
I'd just sell the mobo for however much you can get if you don't already have the CPU
400$ for a 9900k is a scam
brittle sentinel
its the average price for a i9
livid idol
$400 right now gets you a DDR5 memory kit, motherboard, AND processor
cerulean rover
9900k is 8c16t
13600k is 14c20t
basically, the current gen i5 has more cores, more threads, a lot faster cores too
better in every way
@brittle sentinel This ends up being cheaper than the previous list while being better in most respects
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qgmVzf
Relative performance chart for CPU for fun, 9900k ends up at about 10600k levels
it's just too old for reviewers to even bother putting on the chart
stock 10600k was equivalent to stock 9900k in gaming
Here's 4070ti vs 3070ti while we're at it
solemn panther
Is there a chart for 1440p? Ik the margin between the cpus will be lower.
cerulean rover
yeye I'm doing 1080p for consistency for now
you should do 1440p for these kinda specs
odd siren
its the average price for a i9
don't look at it because it's an i9, that's a big mistake.
there are huge improvements gen on gen that you'll miss out on going with a 4 year old cpu
cerulean rover
Is there a chart for 1440p? Ik the margin between the cpus will be lower.
it's just iirc tpu changed GPU quite a few times so 1080p should keep margins similar
they went like 2080ti test rig to 3080 and now 4080 iirc
odd siren
i5's now easily clap almost all i9's up to 2 years ago
save for some multicore scenarios
cerulean rover
Even then
cerulean rover
save for some multicore scenarios
13600k can reasonably match or even beat a 10980xe
generation over generation gains nowadays are really nice
livid idol
12th gen + e-cores tho
odd siren
13400 easily better
odd siren
oh of course
livid idol
'bout time
odd siren
it wouldn't surprise me if 15th gen i3 beats the older i9's soon
cerulean rover
although a certain someone will claim superiority of x299 and x99 and x79
livid idol
Took Intel long enough to stop stagnating
ivory herald
I like seeing even 12400 at least matching 10900K.
odd siren
If we have to give intel real credit imo it's for the multicore perf tbh
bigger clawbacks there than AMD would've wanted
livid idol
The only thing they had to do was enable hyper threading
Because more than half their chips before didn't have it
oak rivet
Here's 4070ti vs 3070ti while we're at it
special listing with a 4070ti and 7950x?
can you link the article its from
cerulean rover
That's tom's hardware's 4070ti review
oak rivet
seems like arc should have a revision in the future where the arc control does not act like a overlay anymore
waxen orbit
But it's impressive a 13th gen i5 beats a 10th gen hedt i9 chip
not in avx512 
let mr throwa and i cope just a little bit longer
also "10th gen hedt chip" was literally just a refreshed 7980xe 
odd siren
inb4 14th gen avx-512
livid idol
seems like arc should have a revision in the future where the arc control does n...
Yes but Intel also isn't saying how long that'll take, which means it's probably going to be 2 years
oak rivet
Yes but Intel also isn't saying how long that'll take, which means it's probably...
For their own good it should be sooner rather then later
livid idol
That's been their theme for a few years now
waxen orbit
inb4 14th gen avx-512
i doubt it 
same reason they took out sli from z790
coz hedt will be devalued
heady turtle
Not like sli is dead or anything
odd siren
Not like sli is dead or anything
It's not, don't-
Don't scare poor old @last barn like that
Mean British weirdo
odd siren
?pato
neat ventureBOT
heady turtle
Don't scare poor old <@956440029457178625> like that
X79 sucks 
neat ventureBOT
last barn
crude garnet
?pato
neat ventureBOT
velvet grail
What's going on with ?pato
oak rivet
?pato
neat ventureBOT
frail pasture
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KWnypg/msi-gaming-x-trio-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-rtx-4070-ti-gaming-x-trio-12g So this is still the play, instead of 3000 series
Asked a few days to maybe a week ago
heady turtle
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KWnypg/msi-gaming-x-trio-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12...
If you don't care about ray tracing I'd get this assuming under 1k price
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ts7G3C/asrock-radeon-rx-6950-xt-16-gb-oc-formula-video-card-rx6950xt-ocf-16g
If you care about RT
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kVqPxr/asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-tuf-rtx4070ti-12g-gaming
vale ore
y'all please help me decide: RX6600, RTX3060 or Arc A750
livid idol
Depends on what you'll be playing as far as Arc. Modern games work very well and the drivers are improving a lot, but older games are hit or miss. CSGO for example is still unplayable.
vale ore
FH5 is main game
livid idol
The Arc is technically the strongest option but that comes with potential issues
vale ore
i'm also about to upgrade from i7-8700k to i9-9900
livid idol
Otherwise if the 3060 and 6600 (non-xt) are the same price definitely 3060
vale ore
Otherwise if the 3060 and 6600 (non-xt) are the same price definitely 3060
thanks. that's the main thing i am stuck on
livid idol
Make sure it's the 3060 12GB though, the new 8GB one might as well be a 3050 ti it's a significant downgrade
vale ore
6600 vs 3060 and then the winner of that is vs a750
oh, i'm upgrading from a gtx1060 6GB. 😂
oak rivet
3060 is the most superior out of those 3
If it was the 6600xt it would have been most superior
oak rivet
The Arc is technically the strongest option but that comes with potential issues
It falls flat to the 3060 tho even in tier 1 games like cyberpunk iirc
livid idol
But the raytracing is downright usable by comparison
oak rivet
Same fps as 3060?
livid idol
And Arc drivers have improved a LOT
By no means is it perfect still but it's not the insta crash mess it was before
vale ore
ray tracing doesn't seem worth it. most LTT staff couldn't tell if it was off or on
the only time i've seen it make a huge difference was Quake 2 RTX
livid idol
Most games, I'd agree. Certain ones like cyberpunk show us a glimpse of the potential though
cp looks like a totally different game
oak rivet
That's subjective even then 3060 is on par with a750 and a770 for the most part
And you won't have situation like these
wicked hound
I wouldn't use CP2077 as a good example. Both raster and RT implementation aren't that great tbf. ME:EE or Control do it well. Also some new game too iirc, don't remember the name now.
livid idol
Control I agree, it was designed as a showcase game after all
vital oriole
arc gpus have gotten better with time
but imo I would skip to second gen
which might be too long, cause intel is planning for a refresh
vale ore
rx6600XT > 3060? (ray tracing not in consideration)
vital oriole
6600xt
livid idol
That reminds me I need to finish Control now that I have more memory and it should stop crashing from low memory
oak rivet
Also a750s are like 400$? Now it's competing with the 3060ti and 6700xt
vital oriole
nah that's a770
oak rivet
rx6600XT > 3060? (ray tracing not in consideration)
6600xt
livid idol
Also a750s are like 400$? Now it's competing with the 3060ti and 6700xt
And where exactly are you seeing 3060 ti for msrp? I've never seen one except FE, I'm genuinely asking
vale ore
i'm on newegg right now, don't see any TI cards for under $300
but i do see this:
ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 6600 XT 8GB GDDR6
$269.99
vital oriole
intel arc is pretty much the only gpu that is at msrp
apart from radeon's lower end offerings ofc
4070ti is at msrp but it's $800
livid idol
And where exactly are you seeing 3060 ti for msrp? I've never seen one except FE...
Wow I actually found one https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-zt-a30610h-10mlhr/p/N82E16814500518
Only took 2 years
vital oriole
that one with its white variant was 399 once a few months back
vale ore
is 6650xt worth the extra $20 over the 6600xt?
vital oriole
yes
livid idol
but i do see this:
ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 6600 XT 8GB GDDR6
$269.99
That's a good deal, matches the 3060 12gb
livid idol
Here's a quick and dirty reference for you, don't consider it gospel https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/3548vs4345vs4465vs4444vs4541/GeForce-GTX-1060-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060-vs-Radeon-RX-6600-vs-Radeon-RX-6600-XT-vs-Radeon-RX-6650-XT
The G3D rating gives a rough idea of how gaming fps compares between them
oak rivet
vale ore
allright. i'm going to take y'all's advice and go for the 6650xt. I haven't bought an non nvidia card since, well when ATI hadn't been bought out by AMD yet.
outside that one ATI card, i've always went with 3DFX and then nVidia.
thanks for the input. much appreciated
frail pasture
If you don't care about ray tracing I'd get this assuming under 1k price
https:/...
I have purchased the Asus 4070ti, it should be here in a few days
Again, I appreciate everyone who has given any sort of advice 👍
ancient crystal
I bought an RTX 3060 12GB
I haven't tested it yet, hopefully it'll handle 1440p well enough for most games, otherwise I'm stuck 720/1080 + DLSS
livid idol
Should do well enough, drop it to medium quality if you need to
ancient crystal
No quality reduction unless resolution / framerate can't keep minimum standard
DLSS looks good.
oak rivet
Use dlss quality maybe then drop some quality settings
Some games AO is non existent at medium setting s
Destroys the lod
Draw distance
Compromises are there at medium compared to high
heady turtle
Again, I appreciate everyone who has given any sort of advice 👍
You're welcome
versed panther
Hey
hasty monolith
On the b350m board will a 3060ti or 6700 be bottleneck by the pcie 3.0 for gaming
keen nacelle
On the b350m board will a 3060ti or 6700 be bottleneck by the pcie 3.0 for gamin...
No
You would notice maybe a 1-3% difference
fading glacier
humble herald
Hay I have a question
So I have bin seeing that my gpu starts to get more used
From 39% to 40 to 60 to 87
wraith pasture
While idle or gaming or what
humble herald
Um rendering 3D
I played Val on it
But I had 130 fps then it only plays 50
Now I think it not making any fp
Val gives me a -81 error
wraith pasture
Fp?
wraith pasture
Have you tried reinstalling drivers cleanly
wraith pasture
Talking about graphics drivers
humble herald
Yes because it was a fresh install and I added it back
I could try again
But is there any other thing?
It's a1030 so it's a small one
wraith pasture
So installed fresh windows and then went directly to your GPU driver website like amd Nvidia or Intel and downloaded the correct drivers to install?
humble herald
That's right
wraith pasture
What GPU is it
humble herald
Just wanted to see who's failing and to my opinion
I think I...
humble herald
It's a1030 so it's a small one
^
wraith pasture
Nvidia GTX 1030?
humble herald
Yes
heady turtle
As for the valorant error try validating the game install
humble herald
For Val I did fresh install
Funny thing is now there's 2 valorant games in nivada
Is it possible that I killd it when I was playing Val?
heady turtle
Try dduing and instead of installing the latest drivers, try going back a driver version or 2
?ddu
neat ventureBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
heady turtle
Is it possible that I killd it when I was playing Val?
Nah
If it was dying it was dying and just a coincidence
humble herald
Well if this is what people say
That frame drop or driver problems happen
Man this sucks 😂
Oh I have one more
The screen flickers
To blue and looks like it's trying to refresh
So like it cutes out
humble herald
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/G...
Ok I'll come back if not
I'm not home but when I'm done I'll give it all a go again
Ill try installing windows and play Val on the system
With the new drivers
solid glacier
My gpu has 3 slots for pcie cables so I use 2 8pin connectors and 1 single connecter
livid idol
If the cables aren't too thin that should be ok
livid idol
You'll have one loose somewhere
Just gotta cable manage it
Or you can cut off and electrical tape over the extra wire
solid glacier
So I use those 2 and then use this
Just asking bc my gpu drops a lot of power draw so@im just wondering do I use only 2 different cables like the 1st pic and then just a single cable@
livid idol
Those EVGA cables are good enough that using the daisy chain for one of the connections is ok
Unless you'll be heavily overclocking
solid glacier
what drivet do i download for my 6900xt? the recommended one is giving me issues
livid idol
You can go back to a previous version like this one https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/whql-amd-software-adrenalin-edition-22.5.1-win10-win11-may10.exe
solid glacier
isnt 22.8.1 better than the 22.5.1
livid idol
Define better
livid idol
I was only giving one option, you can do 22.8.1 if you want
livid idol
Do you play a lot of games launched in the last 6 months?
solid glacier
not really i play the new cod, battlefield 2042 fortnite apex
ember eagle
How big is the difference between a 3090 and a 4070ti in 1440p gaming
livid idol
All those are perfectly fine on 22.5.1
odd siren
How big is the difference between a 3090 and a 4070ti in 1440p gaming
Like, 5% at most really
It's entirely a sidegrade
livid idol
ember eagle
Thanks
solid glacier
I Jsut got error 205 from downloaidn THR 22.5.1
Guessing windows didnit
Did it so now what
livid idol
?ddu
neat ventureBOT
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
solid glacier
already had that on
gonna ddu
and try again
@livid idol
i got the same error agian.
livid idol
Do 22.8.1 then
odd siren
Go 22.11.1
livid idol
He was having issues with that one
solid glacier
odd siren
Iirc Frosty was fine when the overclock was turned off
solid glacier
Iirc Frosty was fine when the overclock was turned off
What?
odd siren
My bad I remembered this wrong
#overclocking message
solid glacier
yeaa
solid glacier
i rmaed my card bc it was giving me issues but once i rmaed it it worked amazing for the rma people but when i do it it doesnt
odd siren
A not very stable ram OC can lead to poor gpu perf, driver errors and flakey game launching
solid glacier
its a new set of ram
odd siren
Yes but is it xmp or not
heady turtle
My bad I remembered this wrong
https://discord.com/channels/500085440221806603/6...
illegal
odd siren
Ask me anything I lived a poor ram OC life for 6 months before I sat down and started to learn I'd kneecapped myself
odd siren
heady turtle
Ask me anything I lived a poor ram OC life for 6 months before I sat down and st...
thats the least of your worries
this happened to me
but one day instead of kneecapped
windows gone
heady turtle
btw it passed tm5 extreme anta
odd siren
windows gone
I picked it up faster than u did
solid glacier
Yes but is it xmp or not
xmp
now what try the newest driver
and deal with the bad performance
heady turtle
I picked it up faster than u did
wdym
heady turtle
and deal with the bad performance
windows update being dumb turn off auto driver updates in windows settings
solid glacier
windows update being dumb turn off auto driver updates in windows settings
they are
livid idol
tf to do now
Did you do DDU in safe mode and keep Internet disconnected when you reboot?
solid glacier
Did you do DDU in safe mode and keep Internet disconnected when you reboot?
yes
solid glacier
solid glacier
the clean and restart on ddu?
ill try it one more time even though im gonna get the same results
?
heady turtle
the clean and restart on ddu?
theres also a clean install option in the drivers
solid glacier
yea ik and i also click factory reset
im gonna turn windows drivers back on restrart pc let those instal then turn if back off and see if that helps
i turned the
solid glacier
theres also a clean install option in the drivers
odd siren
what about 22.12.2 or 23.1.1 beta
heady turtle
if youre doing factory reset too im stumped
odd siren
try taking out your ethernet'
or turn off wifi
you can also go to windows update and pause all updates for 7 days
solid glacier
try taking out your ethernet'
then what
solid glacier
install it.
iv ionstalled it million times
this is my 5th installing the 2nd different driver
only thing i can think of is the rma people didnt DDU the card when they returned it
odd siren
this is entirely the windows install
solid glacier
but that gives me bad performance
solid glacier
Alright
odd siren
unplug your internet
ddu
then try again
you can also disable windows update in system configuration under the services tab to force updates off
but you need to reenable it afterwards if you do this last one
livid idol
Right click the windows button and hit system
solid glacier
Yea im on 22H2
livid idol
Well I'm stumped, the last resort move is a PC reset I think if what felix said doesn't work
Something is interfering hard core
odd siren
I've literally worked around 205 doing what I said
solid glacier
Wth is that
odd siren
have you ever checked your windows install integrity?
solid glacier
No
odd siren
looked at crystaldiskinfo?
solid glacier
No
odd siren
would consider
odd siren
Is this on a fresh windows or the windows you did ram oc with
I never got an answer to this question
odd siren
ahhhh
odd siren
ok we are finally getting somewhere
solid glacier
I turned the pc off
odd siren
Oh no windeos@I did ram OC with
this will likely be the source of your gaming issues
solid glacier
Ram oc? XMP is the only thing I touched with ram oc
odd siren
so you haven't done any manual ram overclocking at all??
solid glacier
Nope
odd siren
ok so we haven't done any oc really
solid glacier
Correct
odd siren
ok so then it points to crystaldiskinfo and checking the drive health of your boot drive
solid glacier
Yea but I can’t boot up if I keep getting blue screened
odd siren
you have a second pc?
solid glacier
Yea
odd siren
stick it in there and check it on that
solid glacier
My SSD?
odd siren
ye
solid glacier
Won’t work with my@other Pc bc it’s my brothers it’s a prebuilt
solid glacier
solid glacier
I haven’t used the Pc ina motnh
odd siren
pay attention to the errors, they'll tell you a good idea of what's happening
odd siren
have you ever tried the gpu in another system?
solid glacier
No
odd siren
how big is the psu of your brother's pc
solid glacier
550
solid glacier
odd siren
ima make a suggestion
take his psu out with all the cables
take your psu out with all the cables
ddu his pc
then install the psu and gpu into his
solid glacier
He isn’t gonna let me do that
odd siren
well
it would show you the gpu definitely being unrelated at this point
we are just booting windows, gpu is idle through the process
solid glacier
So is it my gpu or my SSD being the problem for blue screen
livid idol
Do you have a secondary drive you can temporarily use to install windows on
solid glacier
There’s only 1 error
solid glacier
Do you have a secondary drive you can temporarily use to install windows on
I got my HDD
livid idol
That'll do. Slow but it'll tell you what the issue is.
odd siren
try a new windows on the hdd and then install crystaldiskinfo on it
solid glacier
Soo using windows media tool@or
odd siren
yep
solid glacier
How do I get it to boot if I just keep getitng blue screened
odd siren
if your ssd is legit dying that will point to a whole myriad of potential problems you would have had
you boot off the windows media tool
solid glacier
What’s the link for the media tool
livid idol
yes
solid glacier
If it is my SSD what’s a good one to get
Would a dying SSD be the issue for my bad fps and performance I don’t think it would be if tried both games in both drives
Okay done now what
How do I make sure the pc boots with the USB
livid idol
How do I make sure the pc boots with the USB
Change the boot order in bios
Or look for the hotkey to select boot drive when the bios splash screen pops up
odd siren
Boot option 1 to usb
solid glacier
Change the boot order in bios
livid idol
Custom
livid idol
Drive 1 looks like your SSD
solid glacier
The one that’s highlighted is my SSD
I delete every drive right and I put windows in my HDD
on*
livid idol
Is there anything you want to save? Or is all your data replaceable/backed up?
solid glacier
I don’t got anything important on my@pc lol
Besides my games but those can be reinstalled
livid idol
What I'd do then is just tell it to install Windows to drive 0 partition 1, so then you don't need to download those again
No deleting required at this point
solid glacier
Well@im gonna have to anyway when I get a new SSD
livid idol
If you delete the partitions off the SSD now you'll have to delete the games one too
solid glacier
I might have currupted files on my d drive that I don’t know about that’s why I just wanna wipe both drives just in case
I select my d drive for my windows corrce t
livid idol
If you want to you can delete all the partitions then
solid glacier
Yea I did
livid idol
And then yes you'd select the free space in drive 0
solid glacier
What a good SSD to get rhen? For I csn order it rn
livid idol
This is a good price right now https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7tCFf7/silicon-power-a60-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp001tbp34a60m28
solid glacier
Is it a good one though
odd siren
It's good
livid idol
Same class as the oft-recommended MP33
odd siren
I have 2 or 3 of those
livid idol
Smaller size one if you want to save a buck https://pcpartpicker.com/product/94gQzy/silicon-power-p34a60-512-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp512gbp34a60m28
odd siren
Return the other ssd and just try disabling windows update or disconnecting from the net
For the amd driver
solid glacier
Alright well I forgot that I won’t have internet lol
I have to download them@on the USB drive
That would be under my mobo right
livid idol
Yes
fading glacier
to think that all of this storm started with a driver issue 😦
livid idol
Then what
If you have the same issue on another drive then it's probably the motherboard since you already replaced memory
livid idol
to think that all of this storm started with a driver issue 😦
Yeah we've gone past the snowball effect and gone and made the whole snowman at this point
solid glacier
My mobo is the pro z690-a Ddr4
fading glacier
word
solid glacier
Yeah we've gone past the snowball effect and gone and made the whole snowman at ...
Is it the Intel WiFi’s driver for Ethernet or Intel network
livid idol
Try both
solid glacier
Once I get WiFi how do I check o see if my SSD is bad
livid idol
Crystal disk info for smart data and crystal disk mark for testing performance
Check the SSD optimized test in cdm menu
solid glacier
Yea I did
solid glacier
Check the SSD optimized test in cdm menu
Where ?
livid idol
Settings > NVMe SSD
odd siren
If you could show us the full crystaldiskinfo report we might notice something
orchid loom
Press all
solid glacier
Alright done
solid glacier
If you could show us the full crystaldiskinfo report we might notice something
^
Now what
odd siren
Alr so the ssd is fine
The bsod was definitely pointing to it tho
You could cancel the ssd order
solid glacier
Alright don
So I can cancel that order on my SSD then lol
Maybe it was a currupted windows file?
odd siren
My next thought would be psu? I have had a lot of psu problems and they gave some really messed up behaviour
What psu do you have
solid glacier
850 watts EVGA super nova gold
Well now@im gonna go back to reinstall windows back on my SSD lol-
odd siren
Do you know which supernova?
Hey I mean a fresh windows install, we can tick that off as a solution if everything works fine
solid glacier
solid glacier
Hey I mean a fresh windows install, we can tick that off as a solution if everyt...
Yea true
odd siren
Ah ok, and what cpu you using?
solid glacier
I7-12700kf
But wuesiton
Question
Would a fresh windows install reset my bios
odd siren
No won't reset bios
odd siren
Some software may toggle a couple bios changes (looking at you armoury crate) but bios will be left alone where it counts
fading glacier
bios info is saved and run from the chipset eprom
have nothing to do with the ssd nor windows 😛
solid glacier
Well I wanna install my windows on my SSD first
odd siren
Oh I thought you had done that alr
odd siren
First and foremost get *that* out of the way
Yes that, then this ^^^
solid glacier
Yes that, then this ^^^
Do I have to go back in BIOS to change boot or does that save from the first time I changed it
odd siren
You have to go back and change it
Honestly I don't remember tbh but I'd go back and check anyway
Saves double-stepping
livid idol
Hopefully my windows key stayed
It should be saved to your microsoft account and will read it from there when you run the activation troubleshooter
solid glacier
Cool hopefully
Installing windows now
That sucks kinda wished it was my SSD
Bc I’m back to unsolved problems
odd siren
Windows reinstall could very well fix it too
Don't count the chickens before they hatch
solid glacier
True but Iv reinstalled windows hefore
Okay windows is done
Now I download my AMD drivers
Or my mobo drivers first
odd siren
Both
solid glacier
Management engine
Which one should I install?
odd siren
You still have the activation code?
solid glacier
Idk I have to find it
solid glacier
odd siren
Make sure it's for windows 10 pro as well
livid idol
I changed hardware
odd siren
It might be a home key not a pro key
odd siren
Oh ok
solid glacier
You're signed into your MS account right?
^
livid idol
It'll make you update before it lets you pause anyway
livid idol
Just go for installing drivers
solid glacier
Do I do that code 205 thing first or nah
livid idol
Did you get another code 205 when installing the latest driver?
solid glacier
No I haven’t tried installing amd yet on this fresh install
odd siren
Pause windows updates for 7 days
livid idol
Then you don't know if it'll even have the same error yet so no need to fix what you don't know is broken or not
odd siren
Legit pause it
solid glacier
It’s paused
hot bough
Heard rumors of a 4090ti and possible Titan?
odd siren
Bit of an extreme buy imo
livid idol
4090 ti has been expected for a while, ever since it was discovered the 4090 die is partially disabled
odd siren
I don't see why they're doing a Ti tbh
solid glacier
We’ll
odd siren
AMD clearly lost the 4090 bout
solid glacier
odd siren
Try it again, disconnect your internet
solid glacier
DDU?
livid idol
I don't see why they're doing a Ti tbh
Because they already make the hardware for it and all they need to do is not disable cores
solid glacier
Try it again, disconnect your internet
That’s with the driver 22.5.1
Should I try the latest?
livid idol
That's what I said to do from the start
solid glacier
Oh
livid idol
The whole point was to see if you still had the same issues as before right?
odd siren
No internet?
odd siren
Turn off the internet???
solid glacier
Yes it’s off
odd siren
Ok try install
solid glacier
I have to DDU first
odd siren
Then ddu
solid glacier
And then try installing the old drivers?
solid glacier
Bro this is the newest drivers there installed
solid glacier
Only this one but this driver gives me performance issues
odd siren
Ok we rolling fam
We have installed drivers
Ok you can ddu now if you want to
And go to 22.10.2
Or 22.10.1
solid glacier
If it lets me
odd siren
If it doesn't, oh well
There's a link for 23.1.1 on videocardz.net
You can try that beta
odd siren
Yes
solid glacier
solid glacier
Yes
how- i cant find it under my graphic settings on windows
I’m guessing I can’t bc I got and
Incompatible GPU: Not all graphics cards work with GPU scheduling. For example, most AMD graphics cards got GPU scheduling support not very long ago.”
livid idol
Only this one but this driver gives me performance issues
Have you tested this yet or are you still guessing based on the old install of Windows
solid glacier
Have you tested this yet or are you still guessing based on the old install of W...
Im basing it on the old stall of windows I’m downloading a game rn to test
livid idol
There's a link for 23.1.1 on videocardz.net
There's 23.1.2 now Oh wait that's 7900 only
solid glacier
Yea I can’t find that setting
livid idol
Don't worry about it then
It's not important, that only applies to desktop apps and not games
I think this beta would work with 6000 series if you still have performance issues https://www.techspot.com/drivers/downloadnow/17832/?evp=1442951cf35848972768a80fbc413e47&file=25614
livid idol
.1 was a previous version , this one has a hotfix included for 7900
odd siren
It tackles the previous month driver issues was pointed out to be caused by a new branch in the drivers
solid glacier
Just got apex installed momment of truth
And the results isss
First game it was smooth
But time to install cod to see if I’m stuttering
odd siren
And if cod is smooth?
oak rivet
If you want stable frame time unlocked fps probably not the way to go
livid idol
And if cod is smooth?
Then it was probably a background task or program causing the stutters
If it's not happening on a fresh install
odd siren
Yeah if past this point things are smooth it's something in windows
Icue comes to mind
Synapse
Regular driver updates, 8K mouse
Specific applications trying to take high priority
A number of things but then you can install things slowly and test every time
What is it the denuvo stuff? Known to cause issues
There's also running windows 10 not up to date with a 12700kf can lead to issues with the scheduler
livid idol
Denuvo anti cheat? Yeah any anti cheat can really but Denuvo especially on e-cores
solid glacier
Yea true
solid glacier
And if cod is smooth?
Then I’m Gucci
solid glacier
So far apex is running amazing
vital oriole
is the cap achievable with your gpu at current settings?
odd siren
Best browser
livid idol
It's basically Chromium anyway
"How do we get people to use our browser?"
"We can't, abandon it and steal from open source"
solid glacier
plz, dont call it 2k... its 1440p
1440p
vital oriole
"How do we get people to use our browser?"
"We can't, abandon it and steal from ...
ngl ms copium ironically works well due to it being kinda related to chrome
it no longer sucks
livid idol
plz, dont call it 2k... its 1440p
Yeah "2K" is super confusing because 1920 is a lot closer to 2000 than 2560 is
random walrus
2.5K
oak rivet
then 4k should be called 2160p imo
livid idol
It is
random walrus
then 4k should be called 2160p imo
It sometimes is
fading glacier
"4k" is the slang.... real name is 2160p
random walrus
Yeah and even 4k isn't quite right
livid idol
4K is also misleading because you can have an ultrawide that is like 3960x1600
fading glacier
yup
random walrus
For a 16:9 4k display It's more like 3800 I think
fading glacier
but its the same thing as with memory.... we should call it megatransfers no megahertz.... but we just gave up at this point
thats why we call it 4k.... but its wrong
its 2160p
vital oriole
gave up looooong ago
random walrus
Ah
fading glacier
food for thougth
livid idol
but its the same thing as with memory.... we should call it megatransfers no meg...
But what about the people still on SDRAM memory?
The whole 12 of them would be so confused!
frail pasture
gpu came in today, installed. running great so far
solid glacier
gpu came in today, installed. running great so far
which gpu
solid glacier
if i decide to upgrade to the7 series
i should go for the xtx
right instead of the xt
odd siren
Hold on a damn sec
Let's make sure the current card is fine first
Also an XTX and 12700K on any 850W is very unsettling
solid glacier
Yea I’m gonna upgrade my psu
solid glacier
Also an XTX and 12700K on any 850W is very unsettling
KF
odd siren
Same power consumption
livid idol
XT competes with the 4070 ti
XTX competes with the 4080
livid idol
livid idol
Your 12700kf would bottleneck a 4090 at 1440p lmao
oak rivet
i can name a few outliers but mostly yes
livid idol
With a 5800X3D, which often beats the 12700k
I too love spending 50% more money for 16% more performance
The gap is much larger at 4k, 27%
fading glacier
livid idol
Right but he's on 1440p
odd siren
Point is not the reso change perf loss it's the relative gain at the resolution
livid idol
So a 4090 is just... unnecessary
odd siren
You buy a 4090, spend $1600 to maybe only use $1350 of it
oak rivet
get a 7900xtx at 1440p that would result in a experience with more fps then
livid idol
You buy a 4090, spend $1600 to maybe only use $1350 of it
If you can even get one at $1600, they're still $1800+ last I checked
odd siren
Even XTX I would say no, that's a higher power consumption than the 4090
And also doesn't really shine at 1440p either, particularly in the games suggested
Just, staying 6900XT is fine
It's in the upper end of 1440p worthy
oak rivet
With a 5800X3D, which often beats the 12700k
think every gpu has reached their limits here except the 4090
vital oriole
wdym by not their limits?
livid idol
4080 and XTX look like they're on the edge based on the scaling
livid idol
wdym by not their limits?
As in not bottlenecked
odd siren
It's all working fine frosty?
oak rivet
atleast the game has no stutter problems soo good game to test frame time of a gpu
solid glacier
It's all working fine frosty?
iv only tried apex Atm but i played like 4 games no stutters and its smooth as butter
solid glacier
atleast the game has no stutter problems soo good game to test frame time of a ...
wait actually true
vital oriole
it's game issue then
livid idol
The only EFT I know is Electronic Funds Transfer
solid glacier
escape from tarkov
vital oriole
tarkov is also known to be spotty optimization wise
odd siren
iv only tried apex Atm but i played like 4 games no stutters and its smooth as b...
Installed everything back besides the games now?
solid glacier
Installed everything back besides the games now?
yep all my drivers are done
odd siren
Ok good
solid glacier
tarkov is also known to be spotty optimization wise
well i bought the game and it put me in europe for the region when i live in ny LOL
odd siren
We can tick this off as working for now then
fading glacier
another techie moment with a happy ending
livid idol
SMH Discord
Discord messing with the hardware yet again. Nvidia users beware.
Here's a workaround while we wait for a patch to the patch https://www.pcworld.com/article/1499845/discord-is-slowing-down-nvidia-graphics-cards-heres-how-to-fix-it.html
solid glacier
oof
oak rivet
I restricted it in profile inspector all fine now
fading glacier
ill just wait to have that solved in the next driver update
not game breaking anyway
oak rivet
I actually thought my gddr6 modules were dying
livid idol
Welp maybe I found the reason for at least one person having issues with fps/stutters
Well I say "found" but I mean I watched a LTT video
fading glacier
yikes
oak rivet
Well I say "found" but I mean I watched a LTT video <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Which ltt vid
They barely talk about fps and stuff makes it not very interesting for me
fading glacier
nope not me
1400 Mhz in game
with discord closed
same discord running
at least mine is not affected it seems
oak rivet
What gpu?
fading glacier
4080
oak rivet
It's also the boost memory clock which gets effected
Soo some kind of 3d load is needed
fading glacier
yeah, i was running doom eternal to test it
2790 core 1400 memory
no issues
same with discord closed or running
maybe my card isnt affected by that weird discord issue
livid idol
Or your discord hasn't updated yet
oak rivet
Hmm mine was effected
fading glacier
according to the post
oak rivet
Down to 7800mhz from 8000mhz which is what I run mine at
fading glacier
"Not all cards are affected, but it appears that the vast majority of them might be."
oak rivet
Down to 7800mhz from 8000mhz which is what I run mine at
Flat 200mhz taken away
fading glacier
ohhhhhhh
"It appears that Nvidia’s latest and greatest RTX 40-series cards are unaffected right now."
that could be the reason why mine isnt affected
yeah kinda concerning in that article
av1 update broke 30 series and below
oak rivet
The peasants 😭
fading glacier
but seems like nvidia is well aware of the issue, so a driver update should be out very soon
oak rivet
They usually don't do driver update unless a major game gets released
Maybe a exception for this
fading glacier
we are close to hogwarts launch
so, a driver could be out next week
prolly with a fix to that discord issue
livid idol
More likely we'll get a discord update before a driver update