graphics-cards

[lone pond]

i found a quadro a4000 in a rich kids backyard there in the trash to 💀 (should i take it since one mans trash is anothers treasure right???? jk i wont take it)

[keen nacelle]

3080 10gb 3080 12gb and 3080 ti and 3090 and 3090 ti are within 15% of eachother

I'd just get whatever you can find cheapest

[lone pond]

i found a 4080 for 780 should i buy it

[keen nacelle]

That's fake

[fading glacier]

yup

[lone pond]

i meant 3080

[keen nacelle]

Then no

[lone pond]

not 4080 dum autocorrect ;-;

[keen nacelle]

Should easily get one for $600 used, 500 with a bit of searching

[lone pond]

should i try hunting in .ebay.

screw it im building my own 3090 ti

[hot folio]

Lol good luck with that

[odd siren]

[heady turtle]

Wtf are those swings omg

[livid idol]

I want to see a retest in 3 months

AMD has been doing a good job optimizing drivers

[odd siren]

Yeah as much as some people are saying it, I feel like this isn't truly the best the card can punch yet

[livid idol]

Right. The outlier games I've seen where AMD performs really well are hopefully a good sign.

My advice for a few months now has been "wait and see" and I'm not changing it lol.

[odd siren]

I have been seeing some productivity benchmarks, and I think even some games where the XTX is slower than even the RDNA 2 cards

I get that it's MCM but a lot of this is not really pointing to MCM imo

Not giving that vibe much at all

[livid idol]

Production benches were really weird tbh. Such huge swings mean you have to pay attention to which programs you actually use to choose.

[odd siren]

Oh yeah for sure

I'm seeing a lot more in favour of the new XTX tho just overall

AMD seems to have quietly taken the workstation crown here

LTT seems to have been on the lower side in that regard

And that for me is a good thing, I want better CAD perf

Tho CAD is just one metric

[livid idol]

They've always had the better Linux drivers thanks to real open source drivers so AMD is still the natural choice for many

[odd siren]

Now if MPT could just work with XTX

Then I know this is gonna be a very fun card

[livid idol]

Give it time it just launched lol

[odd siren]

I know

I'll be camping for a waterblock too

[odd siren]

For comparison btw here's the 4090

And also the 3090

And 6900XT

[livid idol]

3080/3090 got better over time on those spikes at least

[odd siren]

The older XT is wildly different tho

But the other cards seem a bit more consistent on the power limit

Actually, pretty safe to say this new XTX is technically 500W rn

[livid idol]

Nah you don't count the peak spikes for that

That's what a good psu is supposed to compensate for

I'd call it... 425W maybe

And this is the first gen on the new MCM platform

Some bugs are bound to occur

[odd siren]

The peaks are so much denser than on any of these other cards tho

I'd say it's just generally running much higher power (at this moment)

[odd siren]

Btw

So shunt mod?

I'm wondering if the input filtering changes are the reason why these benchmarks for the reference vs AIB's seem to be impressively different

https://twitter.com/JirayD/status/1603046786712715265?t=1jd4Zn5aD-IqSUZKaw0ifw&s=19

The good Hunter 🐀 (@JirayD)

@Buildzoid1 The guy over at Igors lab already have a prototype SPPT:
https://t.co/nJmTl8YMqB

Twitter · Dec 14, 2022, 3:18 PM

Ooo he's actually got files

So they seem to have found the power play table? I'm not sure

Yes they seem to have found it

It just starts at a different hex

[lone pond]

The 7900xtx nitro+, shining a huge RGB strip behind it, on the motherboard..
directing that FPS where it needs to be

[odd siren]

It has a strip back and front

So you get both back illumination and front rgb

[lone pond]

feels kind of overkill for the back though

[odd siren]

I actually kinda like it, like what strix last gen tried to be but without all the angles and edges

[mental harness]

What will happen if you’re using nvidia screen capture and restart your comp will it save or not before it restarts

[livid idol]

If it's working properly there's a delay on restart to allow programs to close gracefully

So it should in theory finalize the file before closing

[wicked hound]

Assuming the program doesnt get to shutdown gracefully, it'll depend on the file format for whether you can read the "unsaved" video file. MP4s typically cant be read if the video file hasnt been properly saved while MKVs can, for some format examples.

[lone pond]

there been any word on when FSR3 releases?

[livid idol]

That'll depend on games

Devs need to update to support it

We also aren't sure if you need certain hardware to support it

[odd siren]

I'm hoping they addressed a lot of the previous complaints of FSR

[livid idol]

They added frame generation using their existing fluid motion tech

[odd siren]

Ahhh no

[livid idol]

But I don't think too much else changed

[odd siren]

Lag

Is gonna lag

[hasty monolith]

what psu is recommended with 7900xt

[oak rivet]

i would say a decent 650watt at the very least

[odd siren]

depends on the cpu

[hasty monolith]

5600

[odd siren]

yeah 650 could run that

the new Radeons have terrible power spiking behaviour so they use a lot more than what's advertised

give me a sec I'll find one

[hasty monolith]

i probably wont get it im just wondering if it works with 850w psu gf1 tier a

[odd siren]

oh yeah easily

thank you for listing the name and Tier

no one does that

lol

makes it easy af to tell you if it works lol

[hasty monolith]

im just looking for a decently priced 6800xt or 6900xt

those are in my price range unlike 7900xt

[odd siren]

all of those will run with it

if you go 7900 XT, maybe consider 4K

[hasty monolith]

plan is to buy this month dont really care if i dont get it this year

[odd siren]

but 6900XT will run 1440p with that cpu

[hasty monolith]

i already have a 4k144 monitor with my xbox series x

[odd siren]

ah

so all would be fine no probs then

[hasty monolith]

i went from i5-4670k and rx560 2gb to 5600 32 gig ram and using the rx560 atm

[oak rivet]

That cpu will be sleeping 😴 at 4k

[odd siren]

XTX you'd have a few cpu bottleneck cases but that's about it at 4K

[hasty monolith]

i really dont feel like waiting a few months for stock of xtx or doing the ot 2 pay for xtx

[flat spear]

im getting a asus tuf z690 and a 4000x case and im worried that the usb won't work together

[odd siren]

don't have to tho

just saying in case you get the thought

lol

6900XT is fine

it's a good 4K60 card

[hasty monolith]

yeah probably get the 6900xt at 700 from asrock

[odd siren]

literally zero compatibility problems

[flat spear]

ok thanks

[hasty monolith]

or any sub 600usd 6800xt

[fading glacier]

[wicked hound]

For more clarification the case has one 3.2.1 Type A USB port, one 3.2.2 Type C USB port, and one 3.5mm audio port (audio in/out). The z690 TUF has one 3.2.1 header and one 3.2.2 header on the PCB (as well as an audio header of course). So as Felix said there will be no issues.

[flat spear]

i see. thank you

[random zinc]

can anyone help me i got a new pcie wifi card i'm able to connect to the internet on the main router but not able to connect to internet on the access point

[hasty monolith]

did u use router/wifi password

[random zinc]

yes

[random zinc]

it says im connected to it but no internet access

but on my phone there are

( on the access point )

[hasty monolith]

did u restart router?

[random zinc]

not router its the access point

the router is fine, i could connect to it and it has internet accest but i dont get the full 500mbs

i only get 60

[hasty monolith]

did u update the network drivers on pc

[random zinc]

yes

[hasty monolith]

how far is pc from router?

[random zinc]

access point) like 5 meters

[hasty monolith]

try forget on wifi and re-enter wifi and password

[random zinc]

i did everything i could i reset my wifi adapter and forget the wifi

[hasty monolith]

sorry couldnt help. i dont know how to do it heard u can reset dns and stuff like that maybe that will work

[random zinc]

ok thanks

[odd siren]

Sounds like a problem with the access point

You might need to set it up again (I usually do this when I need to change something)

Cos if you can connect to the main router just fine then it sounds like an isolated thing

[random zinc]

but i pressed the reset buttons

didn't help

the weird thing is that it works with my phone

[odd siren]

pressing the reset is not what I mean as in set up again

I mean set it up again from scratch

or maybe it needs an update?

my first inkling when new things don't pair properly to the internet is either the drivers of the device itself or the current network just needs to be set up again

[lone pond]

What is a good GPU that does well for:

• Average amount of everyday gaming. COD, Roblox, MC, Eldin Ring, a couple large open world games, & possibly a couple racing games,
• a few art projects,
• some Blender modeling.

I am looking for a GPU that is around $300-400. But I don't mind spending a little extra as long as it's good & worth the money.

[fringe scroll]

Resolution matters but prob 6700xt

Or used 6800

[lone pond]

My res options are somewhere around 1080p. I do like things running smooth & fast. So I don't mind something a little higher.

[keen nacelle]

6650xt/6700xt

[lone pond]

K

[fringe scroll]

Yep they'll both do fabulous

[lone pond]

6750 is 359$, is it also any good?

[keen nacelle]

mhm

bit better than 6700xt

[fringe scroll]

359 wow thats not bad at all

Go for it

[lone pond]

Kk

I'm getting excited lol

[fringe scroll]

That's the fun in it

Till you're broke.....

[lone pond]

I would love it if I had a really gud electronics & computer store near me. Only one I got is Best Buy & a couple repair stores.

[lone pond]

Yea lol

[livid idol]

Wish I wasn't 9 hours from the nearest microcenter 🥲

[lone pond]

Oof

Lol

It be awesome if I had one near me

Would not even think about buying online unless the store was like deserted & empty of items. But yeah it would be nice

[heady turtle]

Me too

Except mines a bit longer if you drove

[normal hawk]

17 minutes

[hot folio]

5 minutes

[sonic mural]

Mines twice that far of a drive 💀

[odd siren]

• Laughs in Australian *

[hot bough]

Ngl, I wish I lived near a Microcenter.

It'd be like my dream vacation area.

I'd be able to spend a whole day easily just staring at the tech and reading the descriptions in awe.

[ivory herald]

3070 for $340ish vs 3080 (10GB) for $450ish? Can't decide if I should add the extra $120ish with how longterm it would be if I don't just do some $200ish option.

[heady turtle]

3080

Also 3070 for 340 used it quite meh when 6750xt new is 380

[ivory herald]

Ah good point. No wonder I didn't get outbid yet, lol. So far actually lower like $315ish but we'll see. Could always resell and just lose a few bucks, then upgrade.

[hot bough]

At some point it'd be cool if I worked on a collection of every Intel Core Series CPUs with their I9 K variant.

So like 1-13th gen I9 K variants on all a shelf.

[hot folio]

Wasn’t the 9900k the first i9?

[odd siren]

7900X?

[hot folio]

Oh yeah forgot about that one

[odd siren]

Don't worry, I would too

[ivory herald]

Wrong chan, lol. I'll say it'll be cool to have top 1st or 2nd gpu of each gen. 580, 680, 780 ti, 980 ti. Some are either really cheap or way overpriced randomly. 3080 went for $501+shipping btw, a Zotac. 17 hrs left on $334 TUF 3070. Cheaper than a new 60 ti at least.

[hot bough]

I plan to work on that collection once I am back in China in a few months after I order a 4090.

I wanna have a shelf with like the number 1 or like you said 2 performer of each gen of Nvidia GPU and Intel Core CPUs just sitting on a shelf for my setup as deco.

I used to have a collection of all the Xboxs that have existed, had to get rid of them when moving.

Including a couple of the Kinects used for the Xbox 360.

[ivory herald]

Same, had a storage be unpaid when I worked out of town a while back w/ my good ol CRT, X360 & og thicc ps2 , etc, but oh well. 680 maybe $60 or less nowadays. Funny/sad part is how rare some stuff gets huh. 980 ti is cool mostly because it's nearly the newest/best that still has the dvi-i port (VS dvd-d digital only, w/o active adapter).

[hot bough]

interesting.

Also, if I respond slow it's because I am gonna setup my drawing tablet.

doing some modifications to my setup.

What I find most annoying about drawing tablets is finding a way to put it near my keyboard, mice, etc while not being in a way that makes it uncomfortable for my arm.

[graceful flicker]

thats cool

i just moved my setup over to get more mouse space

[ivory herald]

NP. Interesting, always wanted one. Dvi-i great for instance to just slap on a normal dvi to vga/d-sub thing for CRT use. I still have I think a G90F viewsonic which is 18" screen & actually "flat". Was a great $350ish CRT.

[hot bough]

I am gonna pretend I understand what CRT and DVI-I means, xD. (Completely forgot).

[ivory herald]

Dvi was on 10 series & maybe some 20 series and predated hdmi/DP. CRT aka "tube tv" & "phat monitors". Cathode Ray Tube is what crt is. Could do various res from around 800x600 to 1600x1200ish if talking 4:3 ratio.

[hot bough]

I see, I see.

Thanks for teaching me.

I am looking forward to setting up my own custom desk once I am settled back in China.

[ivory herald]

Not the biggest, but quick example is the 20" screen mrsp $1200+:

[hot bough]

Holy $#!T that's thicc.

I forgot how thick the old monitors/tvs were.

[oak rivet]

3080 is already maxed out in pretty much game now

not even a good for future thing

[ivory herald]

Lcd had poopoo gfx for a while, & of course the Vsync sort of issues. @hot bough check this. 28" widescreen. 🤣

[hot bough]

xD

[ivory herald]

I'm not Rich Safi, enjoy the overpriced 40 series.

[oak rivet]

thats why you gotta get the best value card 120$ premium for a 3080 seems worth it to me

[odd siren]

450 for a 3080 sounds reasonable

Good 1440p card

My experience with the 10gb wasn't bad at all

[oak rivet]

still should have put a bit more vram in that card imo

[odd siren]

You realise if 10gb isn't enough

12gb won't be soon either

No?

Halo infinite was already pushing close to 10gb when that came out

Now you have games beyond that

[oak rivet]

still a bit more headroom ?

[eager moat]

in 5-6 years possibly

[odd siren]

For what, $150 more?

Chillin can't afford it

[oak rivet]

no at same price i mean

[odd siren]

If he's worried about vram he can get a 6800XT for the same price

[hot bough]

Aight, the Drawing Tablet is almost done being setup.

[odd siren]

That's like saying any 3060 laptop is stupid because it has so little vram

[ivory herald]

Ah, it was $501 (3080). indeed auction prices are highly variable. At least even a 3070 is solid VS my 1080 was. Yea 3070 is $334. Vram isn't much concern. Worst case I resell in a while & take a small loss.

[odd siren]

It's a bit of a moot point

[oak rivet]

is it wrong to want more for the money lol

[odd siren]

3080 12gb is not the same price tho

Those go closer to 550 versus a 3080 10gb for 450

100-150 for 2gb of vram and 5% perf

[ivory herald]

50% more money than the 3070 either way, approx.

[odd siren]

Pretty much

[oak rivet]

imo 3080 10gb should have had 12gb to begin with for the same money i mean

[odd siren]

Well it doesn't tho

[oak rivet]

sadge

[odd siren]

This is the reality dish we are served

We make do

Back to my original point

3080 for 450 is good chillin

Or as pato said, new 6750XT for 360-ish

Oh he said 380

Ah the 6700XT is 360 new nvm

Still decent

[ivory herald]

Saving that reality dish sentence for my future kids/wife, haha. Very few are near 450. I'm watching a few dozen, lol. Still 17hrs before I see if outbid or not. Perhaps I'll instantly resell for like 300 buy it now or w/e, yea might as get a vram increase too. Wish I could borrow a 1080 & see how it does w/ a 12400 vs my old 3770. Almost hope ups doesn't need me tomorrow so I can setup ADL already.

[odd siren]

Yeah a 450 offer is solid

HWS I've seen a few

[oak rivet]

my 1070ti was not bottlenecked by my 3570k i think 3770 and 1080 was fine

[ivory herald]

3770 limits my 1080 but not a ton. Think about it like 2012 cpu & gpu from 2016 but it was a pretty good pairing. Definitely way better than the 4thread 3570/3550 (which I had for too long).

[hot bough]

Updated my setup in #build-pics. 😄

Looking pretty good if I do say so myself.

[lone pond]

any word on the 7900xtx tuf release? still no sign of it

[heady turtle]

It's out just out of stock

[oak rivet]

And to think this is a small gpu by today standards lol

[orchid loom]

That's not how that works

This is a small gpu

[ivory herald]

10/20 series strix are so good. -- Pato I was outbid, so 3080 hunt is on. $470 for used msi gaming x ok?

[odd siren]

Pretty good buy tbh

[fringe scroll]

I love the older strix and founders

They should have kept the design 😪

[ivory herald]

I'll bid 480 & see what happens. 200ish under what FE was feels alright, plus w/ a handful I've seen closer to 550.

[heady turtle]

Yeah decent

[knotty turtle]

I got a couple questions: 1. Is it ok to buy a 2nd hand gpu? 2. What is a good website to do so? 3. Is it worth it to buy a 6600 xt rather than a 6600?

[heady turtle]

yes, ebay is good because it has nice buyer protection, 6600xt is better

[livid idol]

6650 XT if only a few dollars more is great too

[tacit surge]

anyone have experience with Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO?

my issue is with my gpu not mounting properly, because it will not click into the gpu notches, and won't fit into the PCIe slot because of this. ( can send photos of the issue if needed)

[odd siren]

It's very finicky

But it should go in

I have one and yes it's not always clicking in easily

You could try it with a tiny bit of angle maybe (horizontally)

[tacit surge]

ok so it's a physical issue. The dimensions of my case, motherboard, and gpu should work, but for some weird reason, the pcie slot cage where the gpu hdmi side isn't sliding in; and in return the pcie slot isn't able to click in with the gpu

[odd siren]

You've taken the other slot covers out first, yes?

And I know which side

The o11 mini air has the same problem too (worse)

[tacit surge]

yes i have. i've taken out all slot covers to make it easier

[odd siren]

Try checking the tabs on the hdmi side that they're going in first

[tacit surge]

what do you mean?

i can't send any photos, but do you know what i mean when the gpu slot cage isn't catch with the gpu?

[odd siren]

The tabs on the pcie slot cover of the gpu

Those go in first

Check they're slotting in properly

[tacit surge]

they aren't,

[odd siren]

There's 2 holes to let it go through on the case

[tacit surge]

yes exactly, those

they physically cannot for some reason

[odd siren]

Yes

[odd siren]

As I said it's finicky

It does go in though

[tacit surge]

ok, so it isn't a restriction with the mobo itself?

[odd siren]

No it's the case

[tacit surge]

ahh ok

should i loosen mobo?

[odd siren]

Just be gentle and keep trying

Loosening the mobo may help but also you couldn't tighten it back up

Since the gpu would be in the way

[tacit surge]

yea that's what im concerned about

but it fits somehow you're saying?

[odd siren]

Yes

It's just a bit of a tricky fit

A bit of angle helps a lot

[tacit surge]

ok i'lll try this later. thank you lots

[odd siren]

Kk

[lone pond]

bro i find the most random things in my dads closet i found a whole gtx 1050 ti founders

[hasty sphinx]

A whole one? Not half? Crazy.

[fading glacier]

once i found the better half of a 980 on my laundry room... that was crazy

still looking for the other half to this day

[random walrus]

I mean you could find only a cooler/ only a pcb I guess

[hasty sphinx]

Yeah true. Was funny sounding so had to troll a little.

[shy garden]

I only got 3 ports tho

Soo which one do I not plug it?

@odd siren do u know?

It’s the 12vhpwr sleeved cable

[random walrus]

If I had to guess, you want the 2 with the sense wires and then one of the others

but I'm not very sure

[odd siren]

Use a pigtail

[shy garden]

its fine

i just left it out

i might not buy a 4090

if they drop the 4080 to 1k

ill just stay on it i think idk

4090 anit worth it then

[odd siren]

Finally seeing the light

@shy garden one more thing

Check your cable is plugged all the way in and that it isn't running too hot

For the 4080

Just to be sure

[dire coral]

Ive recently put in an rtx 2060 coming from radeon card and tryng to install drivers fails every time

ive cleared radeon software restarted plenty of times

anyone know a fix?

[hasty sphinx]

Did you DDU?

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[dire coral]

i have not thakn u will try

[full moss]

hello guys, do you think RX 6800 is a better choice than RTX 3070 or 3070TI?

[keen nacelle]

yes

[full moss]

I do not know much about GPUs

first time I will buy one and I am confused

I am open for recommendations/cautions when buying GPUs

[full moss]

why?

[keen nacelle]

it has better performance

[full moss]

does it lack anything compared to RTX?

[hasty sphinx]

Yeah.. "good" Ray Tracing

[keen nacelle]

yes

[full moss]

does RX6800 also have ray tracing?

I thought it was only for Nvidia GPUs

[hasty sphinx]

It does, but it sucks.

[full moss]

oh

is that a deal breaker though

because RX is slightly cheaper

[hasty sphinx]

It's all preference. I personally like Ray Tracing, but I have a 3080 12gb. Idk how well Ray Tracing is on a 3070/ti. 6800xt is going to be better performance non Ray Tracing.

Plus cheaper

[fading glacier]

check the pins on this channel, there is a rough chart for you to see

[full moss]

but what do I lose if I do not ever use Ray Tracing

[fading glacier]

nothing

in fact you gain fps

[full moss]

thank you

I think I will go for AMD GPU

I hope that I will not regret

[hasty sphinx]

I think you'll be happy with your decision.

[full moss]

I really hope so

do you think Ray Tracing capability of RX might get better soon?

with the current GPUs

[fading glacier]

they are better on 40/7000 series

lackluster on 30/6000 series

in other words, on current gen, rt is worth a shot, on last gen... no, it will only hurts performance

[full moss]

so the only point of turning the Ray tracing on is to increase FPS, but if RX6800 delivers a good performance by default already, it does not make RX a worse GPU, is that right?

[orchid loom]

https://twitter.com/CapFrameX/status/1603798002342281217?t=Kq0DY5mcLVL77iJ3oy3BOg&s=19 ooooop

CapFrameX (@CapFrameX)

The RX 7900 XTX arrived today and this graphics cards is so disappointing I have no words. 😑

1150 EUR graphics card can't even draw spec PL without running into thermal throttling (110°C Junction Temp) + fans going wild, RDNA3 hurricane edition...

Likes

281

Twitter · Dec 16, 2022, 5:03 PM

[hot folio]

RT kills performance

It decreases FPS

[orchid loom]

now if you run DLSS and RT thats good then

[full moss]

okay I understood

it will be the biggest and most risky investment that I will do, please give me your recommendations

for occasional gaming and mostly video editing, which GPU would you choose?

something around 500-700 dollars?

I will probably go for RX6800, but still, if you have alternatives, please tell me

[heady turtle]

@hoary sun they did it
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmO3MD5Oe_5/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[hoary sun]

[shy garden]

which one?

[graceful flicker]

your choice

whatever one you want more i guess

[livid idol]

Check what the ultimate includes. If it has DLC and stuff might be worth it.

[fading glacier]

ultimate editions usually are better value

unless its activision.... those "ultimate" bundles are just season passes and tiers skips

[shy garden]

i was told its only the multiplayer

[ivory herald]

Could always add in the Ultimate later. Perhaps save that $10 for now.

[shy garden]

for what a candybar lmao

[ivory herald]

Anything, lol. I look at it as 50% more instead of just $10.

[stone stratus]

Hello, looking to update my graphics card and wondering if anyone could help me find one that is compatible with my motherboard

[heady turtle]

If your motherboard is from the last like 15 years you won't have a problem with compatibility

[stone stratus]

well that is good to know! The current GPU is quite outdated, GeForce GTX 1060

So a Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080Ti would have no issues?

Just on the website now browsing some

[odd siren]

How much is it

[stone stratus]

Refurb for $430

Just looking for any kind of upgrade from my current one.

[fading glacier]

ew

terrible price

if you are in the US you can get a 6600xt at like 250 new

heavy upgrade

[ivory herald]

3060 ti the minimum I'll suggest on the Nvidia side, but AMD value stomps Nvidia

[stone stratus]

really? Do you have a link? That sounds nice

My son has AMD in his PC, I like the nvidia filters for warzone. The AMD filters aren't as nice it seems

But I didn't really play with them too much

The 3060 has a nice price

[ivory herald]

Some will say* check pcpartpicker really good, for new stuff. Nvidia prices can be weird but 3060 Ti msrp was $400. Used, can get 3070 for similar price also. 60 non Ti is an ez pass though. --- Personally I outright prefer Nvidia so I'm splurging on 3080 but it means a ton of Ebay checking.

[odd siren]

You can get like, RX6800's for 430 iirc

Which will slap 2080 Ti's

[stone stratus]

I see the 3060Ti going for $449 on amazon, so I could pay a little extra to get it here quicker. I will check PC part picker tho

[odd siren]

Nah, 3060 Ti isn't as quick as a 2080 Ti

And the RX 6800 is faster than both

In equivalent terms a 2080 Ti is about the same as a 3070

[ivory herald]

2 yrs old, tbh 60 ti shouldn't even be $400 but that's Nvidia/Amazon for ya. RX 6800 is solid. 6700 XT also a decent value & blow away that 1060. I had the similar 970 so I understand.

[stone stratus]

Which would you recommend? I only play Warzone on it, and on my 144hz monitor i get about 25-30fps max. I do run my plex server from the same desktop so its not like im looking to turn pro haha. Anything $450 and under is ideal for now

Thank you both for the suggestions as well

I am on pcpartpicker and I dont see the 6800, they do have the 6700XT and 6600 around the same price, $355

[odd siren]

Ah sadge, 6800 has gone up

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RbYmP6/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r675xtgaming-oc-12gd

This one

50$ off with a code and 20$ MIR

It's still cheapest even without the MIR

[stone stratus]

I see it for $380 on Newegg, not bad

I shouldn't have any compatibility issues with my system?

[odd siren]

What's your psu and cpu?

[ivory herald]

2fan model, but here's a 6700XT for $360 & dodge dealing with code or rebate https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx6700xt-cld-12g/p/N82E16814930056

[stone stratus]

PSU 500, CPU AMD Ryzen 3 1200 Quad

[odd siren]

1200?

Oooo ok

You kinda want to upgrade that too

The *500W PSU won't handle any of these gpu's either most likely

[graceful flicker]

Rtx 4090

[stone stratus]

What would you recommend for my current set up?

Ah thanks, I will look

[graceful flicker]

No no not rtx 4090

[odd siren]

Mostly a whole new build is probably best

[graceful flicker]

It will pull more than your Psu is rated for

[graceful flicker]

Or keep case and upgrade everything else

[odd siren]

Maybe gpu last and do the other stuff first

If you could stretch to maybe 500

We could tick it all off in one

[stone stratus]

I could

[odd siren]

Ok let me have a look

[stone stratus]

Thank you

[odd siren]

How much ram do you have?

[stone stratus]

32

[odd siren]

Interesting, ok

We'll reuse that definitely lol

[ivory herald]

Good enough psu could be only $100ish btw. A solid 750w plenty for 6750/6700xt. (perhaps even 650w, but I like a "bit" of extra headroom)

[graceful flicker]

Yes 750w from Corsair or even 850w plat is like <130

[odd siren]

@stone stratus what specific motherboard is it?

[stone stratus]

haha yeah, I just added some ram when I first got it

[graceful flicker]

Is it ddr4?

[odd siren]

It's am4 so ddr4

[graceful flicker]

Oh cool

[stone stratus]

ASRock A320M-HDV R4.0

[graceful flicker]

Asrock make good motherboards

I like them

[odd siren]

Ok ima work with that board

[graceful flicker]

Last for a while

[stone stratus]

That is good to hear! @odd siren thank you

[ivory herald]

Great psu tier list here in pins & there's often some well priced A tier options at various moments.

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mNpwJM

You need to update your motherboard bios for this list @stone stratus

Anything that says $0 I'm assuming you'll reuse from your existing pc btw

Do you have an ssd btw?

[stone stratus]

Ok I was going to ask if I need a new case for it

[odd siren]

If you already have an ssd we can knock the nvme off the list

And then I can ask you if you have a kit of 2x16gb ram or if it's two separate single 16gb sticks

[stone stratus]

I do not have a SSD

[odd siren]

Ok then yeah you'll want it

So are those ram sticks two separate 16gb sticks?

[stone stratus]

I believe its 4 sticks of 8gb

[odd siren]

Board only takes two sticks

So it's 2x16

Unless it's not that specific board

[stone stratus]

I know I didn't change it and that is what the computer displays, so yeah it must be 2. Sorry

It was about 3 years ago when I changed it, apologies

[odd siren]

All good

Reason I ask is just slapping in a second stick of ram after can be a bit detrimental to the system

It helps ryzen tho but was curious if it was a whole new kit or just extra put in

So ye, just stick to the list, if you find yourself the chance, check the ram in your system if it's 16gb of the same exact sticks (check the stickers) or not

If they are, sweet, no need to change anything, if not? Maybe grab the 32gb kit I listed and sell those ones in there now

[stone stratus]

Thank you so much. So like you mentioned the $0 stuff, I won't actually need a new case right?

Just want to make sure

[odd siren]

Nah don't need those

It's a low power system so not necessary

[stone stratus]

Thank you, also what is the SSD for? I assume helps with performance

[odd siren]

A lot

Like, of all the changes we talked about for an upgrade?

That is the biggest

But it just needs to be an ssd

Nothing flashy

That's one of the best value ones

[stone stratus]

Ok perfect, just trying to understand. I like that I can get most on Amazon

The motherboard shows as unavailable on amazon, but when I click the motherboard itself on pcpartpicker it takes me here, just want to confirm its still correct

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MNSP7PB?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&pldnSite=1

[winter valley]

how much better is a 6800xt than a 6800?

[keen nacelle]

A good bit

Basically 3070 ti vs 3080 12gb

My 6800xt with a minor oc came within 1% of a fully oced 3080 ti

[hasty monolith]

sweet

[normal hawk]

I thought you got rid of it cause you hated ocing

or somethin

[odd siren]

I mean it's your motherboard, make sure you confirm it's compatible if you're unsure

The one you read out to me has a compatible bios tho

The one you already have

So it should just pop and rock the cpu

After bios update

[keen nacelle]

Ocing with it was annoying, yes, and it had issues with the game that I play most often

And I was talking past tense since I don't have it, but it is kinda hard to tell since the past tense and current tense would be worded the same in that case lol

[odd siren]

Pushed* to it's individual limit ig

[keen nacelle]

i guess i meant the top score for 3080 tis on timespy

but at the time i was trying to say a 3080 ti that was oced as far as it could go

[ivory herald]

All top 5 or so of any card model sometimes have crazy high scores and/or mhz. 🤣

[graceful flicker]

is it normal for gpu usage to never go above 30% when playing something like valorant

[cerulean rover]

Yes

It's unlikely you'd be GPU bound in valorant

[oak rivet]

8x msaa goo brrr

[full moss]

hello everyone, just to confirm, I am about to place the order of this GPU, is it a good one?

price and performancewise

[heady turtle]

Ye

[full moss]

I bought it :D thank you

[heady turtle]

Np

[odd siren]

[random walrus]

Europeans might get free healthcare but damn do they have bad tech prices

[heady turtle]

we include tax in our prices which is most of it but still icky pricing something

[random walrus]

Ah I forget about sales tax

My state doesn't have it

[heady turtle]

in ireland its 23%

[random walrus]

Holy

[heady turtle]

between 18-25 is normal

[random walrus]

Yeah US states I've visited that do have sales tax it's usually 5-15%

Most common is probably 7-13 percent

[heady turtle]

heres a fun map

[random walrus]

Does it apply to all items or only certain categories?

[heady turtle]

basically anything item sold but there are alternate ones so like food and hospitality is like 10 or 11% iirc

[orchid loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KvkVumbgvw

[livid idol]

That'll be solved soon enough once the modders find ways to push more power. It seems to be like what Jay is saying, it can easily push those high clocks but to do it, it's sapping power from other parts.

[orchid loom]

yea i watced video but if they dont OC gpu they fine then

[livid idol]

It's also partially a software issue which is probably a result of using the press release drivers and tools to overclock

[wicked hound]

Don't feel like watching vid, but is memory power "lowering" die power?

[livid idol]

TL:DW is you can make it run 3.2GHz pretty easily but to do so the memory clocks way down to like 900MHz

[lone pond]

so how good is the 7900xtx doing so far? are the driver bugs killing it too bad to be worth it?

[livid idol]

It's still on par with the 4080 on average, even when you count ray tracing

[lone pond]

anyone know when the asus 7900xtx cards are coming?

[oak rivet]

I think if people only have 1k usd on hand and lack the extra for 4080 I see no reason to wait just buy the 7900xtx

Same kinda goes for 7900xt sometimes even managing 100$ is a real chore

[livid idol]

If you can find it non-scalped yeah

Cheapest one I can see is scalped at $1500

Cheapest 4080 right now is $1300

[oak rivet]

Oh I was talking msrp

Here 4080 is 1800$ and 7900xtx 1300$

First time amd counterpart is cheaper

Usually 6900xt was always same price as 3090 or more expensive

[fading glacier]

Where r you from safi? Those 4080 prices are wild

[oak rivet]

🇧🇩

[fading glacier]

Sad to see those prices in your country pal

Scalping to the max

[oak rivet]

Well there is a reason series x sells soo well here

Quick entry into gaming

While you save for a big gpu

[mighty hornet]

Dang Safi sorry to hear prices are so high there. Hope your able to find a way to get a gpu. Don’t give up!

[oak rivet]

[gilded citrus]

I'm running a I5-9400F and 1660 I'm looking to possibly upgrade a part like the cpu but I'm not sure what would be best any recommendations?

[heady turtle]

Well for cpu you'd also need to upgrade motherboard

Honestly I'd consider a gpu upgrade first

[gilded citrus]

To what?

[heady turtle]

Depends on budget and country

[gilded citrus]

Uk

like 300£ only

hard times

[heady turtle]

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-radeon-rx-6650-xt-mech-2x-oc-8gb-gddr6-ray-tracing-graphics-card-2048-streams-2669mhz-boost

This

Or possibly wait for boxing day salea

[gilded citrus]

Would this https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07BKJV4QQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

work with it

[heady turtle]

Yep motherboards are all compatible unless it's like 15 years old

[gilded citrus]

Cool

How much would you say off on boxing day

like 50quid

or s,th

[heady turtle]

No idea, ask again then, might be cheaper/better models

[gilded citrus]

Yea at 200 is the 4gb

But 8gb would be great for flight sim

[heady turtle]

That's a complete different gpu

The 4gb is a 6500xt not a 6650xt

No wait i said that right the first time

[wise pulsar]

for light gaming what would be a good alternative to a 6500xt for under $200

[heady turtle]

A 6600

Or used cards

[wise pulsar]

could that play 1440p?

[heady turtle]

Yeah it can but it's way more comfortable as a 1080o card in most games

200$ is the price range of 1080p basically

[wise pulsar]

oh ok

what about nvidia cards

what would be a alternative to a 6600 or 6500xt

[keen nacelle]

Nothing

Not in the 200 range

Cheapest card worth going for is the 3060 ti, which is still worse than a 6700xt for more

[wise pulsar]

wb 1650?

[keen nacelle]

Far worse than the 6600

[wise pulsar]

like how would 1650 compare to the 6500xt?

[heady turtle]

Both are terrible choices

Go used if that's how little money you have or save an extra like 30$ for way more perf

[keen nacelle]

I'd get a used 1080 before a new 1650 for the same price

[keen nacelle]

Are you making a new build or upgrading an existing one?

[wise pulsar]

new, im not sure what gpu to get i j want the whole build to be under 600

[keen nacelle]

Alright, few min

[ivory herald]

Should search 1080 ti also, some are under $200. Tempting to me but I already had a 1080. Good news is at this point on their resell value is pretty steady. $600+ 4060ti or w/e, might not be a big factor.

[heady turtle]

Would do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g7rZC6

[wise pulsar]

yea that seems good

this is what i had before, how good is this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nvr43y

[heady turtle]

The one i sent is way better

[wise pulsar]

if i may ask, other than the cpu what way is it better

[sonic mural]

Ram by far is better on pato list

[heady turtle]

Ram is way better, single channel ram sucks and xmp is way better than jedec, case and power supply too

[wise pulsar]

ok thanks

[timber totem]

So im in a bit of a predicament, either get the sapphire 7900 xt for $899 OR get the msi radeon 6950 xt for $849

[livid idol]

And what about the 6950 XT for $790? It's backorder but due in 2 days https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-6950-xt-axrx-6950xt-16gbd6-3dhe-oc/p/N82E16814131798

[timber totem]

So would you say that would more worth it than the 7900?

[livid idol]

Over the XT the performance per dollar is better, the XTX would be a great option if it was ever in stock

[timber totem]

Alright thanks for that man

Appreciate it

[livid idol]

I bring receipts usually for my claims

[timber totem]

Ouu its only abt a 5 cent difference though

I could definitely afford the 7900 rn

[ivory herald]

Ah, guess if I score a 3080 for price that 3070 is marked, I'll be doin alright.

[livid idol]

Yep that's the current state of things, keep in mind at anything lower than 4k the margins are even smaller

[ivory herald]

Suppose if I do get a 3080/6800xt, better start gaming on the x27Q instead of 1080p monitor. 🤣

[livid idol]

1440p

[livid idol]

If you did want to go that route I should also mention that we're expecting (hoping really) that the performance will improve on average over time with drivers, like 6000 did.

[hot bough]

Out of curiosity, besides a 4090 are there any GPUs that can handle 1440p 240+ fps on games like Halo running max settings?

[oak rivet]

Nah

[timber totem]

So it would be better to just buy the 7900, its only abt 100 bucks more and its hoped to get better

[oak rivet]

240fps is a big ask at 1440p

[livid idol]

Yep even a 4090 could struggle at max like that

[hot bough]

Gotcha, been wondering if I should get a 4k or 1440p display and what made me consider 1440p was if the 4090 can run Halo Infinite @ 240+ fps on high settings.

[oak rivet]

1440p definitely a safer bet

[hot bough]

4k I'd expect around 70-100 fps on the 4090 on Halo Infinite.

[ivory herald]

I feel like 4k overall is better more for productivity or tons of 2nd screen space., haha.

[hot bough]

Fair.

Interesting, Ray-Tracing off, the 4090 can handle Halo Infinite Max settings in multiplayer at around 120-145 fps.

4k.

around 90-110 in campaign.

[ivory herald]

Feels pretty solid to me. Darn I almost want to do a 1080 (ti) & really see what 3770 to 12400/12600k change did.

[hot bough]

Looking at those frame rates I think I will save up for a 4k monitor instead of 1440p 240hz.

May not be as butter smooth, but at least better pictures.

[livid idol]

You'll want to get a bigger monitor too to make full use of 4k

32" minimum

FV43U is nice

[hot bough]

32in or around there is what I was thinking unless I went curved.

[livid idol]

There will be newer models of monitors soon anyway with 4k high refresh

[hot bough]

Don't wanna deal with annoying viewing angles so the FV43U is probably to much for me.

What's your guys thoughts on the Corsair Xeneon Flex?

[ivory herald]

Did 32" 4k match dpi of 24" 1080p or 27" 1440p? Pretty small text & dealing w/ scaling is really (small) part of why I wouldn't want 4k.

[livid idol]

It's overhyped for what's ultimately a gimmick

[hot bough]

Figured, if it's price tag goes way down maybe I'd consider it in the future.

[oak rivet]

Isn't that lg oled 240hz 1440p cheaper

Ultimate cod bro monitor

[livid idol]

1440p at 27" is 109 PPI, 4k at 32" is 145 PPI

4k at 43" is 108 PPI

[hot bough]

Imagine the day someone buys an 8k 24in monitor.

xD.

[livid idol]

367 PPI

8k VR wen

[oak rivet]

When gpus suddenly become 10 times more powerful ig

[livid idol]

8k60 is unironically possible with a 4090 already

[hot bough]

Which ram would you guys say is better? Price is about the same.

[oak rivet]

Not in grand games like cyberpunk

[hot bough]

https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B09QS2K59B/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?smid=A1G99GVHAT2WD8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B0BHJN7NF9/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=A1G99GVHAT2WD8&psc=1

[livid idol]

VR adds a bit of overhead and you obviously want more than 60 fps for VR so next gen mebbe

[oak rivet]

How do you play AAA games in vr

[livid idol]

DLSS

[oak rivet]

It seems good for only beat saber to me

[hot bough]

6400cl32-39-102 vs 6000cl36-38-38-76

the ladder is Hynix-M-Die.

I assuming the first one is better though since higher MT/s and lower first timing.

[livid idol]

CAS doesn't matter on DDR5

[hot bough]

It doesn't?

[livid idol]

Nope

Tertiaries matter a lot more

[hot bough]

Could you teach me why?

[livid idol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgb8N23tsfA&t=460s

[hot bough]

I will watch that in a moment, but if that''s the case does that mean the Trident kit is better?

[livid idol]

Higher frequency and/or better ICs matter a lot more

[hot bough]

What does ICs stand for?

[livid idol]

But honestly even the cheapest DDR5 is only a couple % off from the high end

Integrated Circuits usually

AKA memory die in this context

[hot bough]

Ahh okay.

6400cl32 Samsung B-Die vs 6000cl36 Hynix-M Die which is better?

Just found what which die, the Trident's use.

[livid idol]

Here's the gist of the video

M die is better on DDR5

Samsung's are good on AM5 with expo profiles

[hot bough]

So if I understand right, I'd be better off with the 6000cl36 Hynix-M-Die ram from Thermaltake?

[livid idol]

If you can be sure it's M die and you'll be overclocking it at least some yes

[hot bough]

I am probably just gonna use XMP, never tried ram overclocking.

[livid idol]

AMD or Intel

[hot bough]

Intel.

[livid idol]

Then yeah M die all the way

[livid idol]

It's worth changing a couple small timings to get better performance, takes 10 minutes

[hot bough]

Gotcha, I look forward to it.

[livid idol]

Amazon descriptions CANNOT be trusted, they copy paste all the info from other models

[hot bough]

Looked up the ram's die on the official site.

[livid idol]

That works

[odd siren]

Hynix m 1000%

Reason is hynix has wider primaries but everything else goes so much tighter than b die

Unfortunately b die doesn't have the same advantage it did on ddr4

Kek

[livid idol]

Well no, B-Die still gets some of the tightest primary timings. It's just that doesn't matter any more.

[odd siren]

Yes, because the other timings are tighter lol

[fading glacier]

[hot bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EhDlXx3okU I wanna know what that Ram was. 24gb sticks mhmmm.

[livid idol]

24Gb ICs have been confirmed already but details are scarce, which is probably why Linus can't talk about it. https://wccftech.com/samsung-agrees-to-manufacture-24gb-ddr5-ics-up-to-768-gb-sticks-now-possible/

[rugged thunder]

He will disappear if he speaks of it

I keep thinking of getting a used 6800xt/6900xt but ehhh

I can wait a bit more

Perhaps there's gonna be some more on ebay after Xmas

[brittle jasper]

What games can my evga 1650 sc ultra can handle without lagging

[cerulean rover]

Trackmania

[woeful musk]

My graphics card is using 96% in task manager

Out of nowhere

[heady turtle]

Do you have a game of something open?

[livid idol]

Task manager is trash for reading gpu stats

It could be that there's a tiny load on it showing a graph so the gpu is in its minimum performance state, which makes that small load look bigger

Use hwinfo or gpu-z for stats

[woeful musk]

My mouse and audio

Barely work

they stutter every 5 seconds

[woeful musk]

No

Even if I open something as simple as my browser

Instantly

It spikes and its awful

My computer is unusable

i don't know why its happening

[heady turtle]

try ddu

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[graceful flicker]

Task manager

[fading glacier]

go to youtube and type "1650 game benchmarks"

[woeful musk]

After looking more

I’ve found something called AggregatorHost.exe which was apparently a bitcoin miner

[heady turtle]

Well that would do it

[ivory herald]

Pro tip, disable gpu hardware acceleration (in web browser & such). Cpu alone can handle quite a bit.

[hasty monolith]

what u guys think 580 usd from amazon for swift 319 6800xt minus another 200 with a gift card so around 430 with tax?

[ivory herald]

380+tax sure sounds pretty good to me even if overall you're still "spending" $580.

[livid idol]

Not a bad deal for new

You're sure it's the XT and not the regular 6800?

[hasty monolith]

yep. 6800xt for under 600 are very scarce now.

[hasty monolith]

says 6800xt

[livid idol]

Are you talking about this one? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KW68M2G

Because every other part of the description says 6800

It also says it needs batteries

Exact model number comes back as non-xt

[hasty monolith]

just realize that dodged a bullet

[hasty monolith]

i know i ask this before from 560 to 6800xt amd andreline states that it has compatibility with both 560 and 6800xt so i dont need to use ddu

[livid idol]

It's recommended but not required

[hasty monolith]

thanks

[sonic mural]

Adrenaline is the same program that reccomended I upgrade to a 5950x and 6900xt to handle my 1080p games

[oak rivet]

Well 6900xt makes sense

[livid idol]

Not with a 5950X it doesn't (for 1080p)

[hybrid fox]

there's only like

a few reasons why you would use that setup for 1080p

[fading glacier]

[livid idol]

Reason 1: You already had the Ryzen platform and wanted to save money
Reason 2: You'll be upgrading the monitor next
Reason 3: You like to spend money but don't have a lot and the GPU was top of the line at the time for cheap

[idle idol]

Will the RX 7600 series be announced in Q1 of 2023?

[oak rivet]

I think

Not

The gap between 6900xt announcement and 6600 was longer if we go by history

[fading glacier]

7800 and 7700 should come first, so the 7600 probably q2, somewhere between april and june

much like the 4060 is expected on q2-q3

[idle idol]

I'll probably have some money by the end of Q1 I'll just pick up a 7700 then.

[hasty monolith]

Im getting merc319 6800xt on amazon for 580 usd. Can someone check if this is the xt not 6800 version. I almost got screwed last night

[late haven]

Would a 7600x be sufficent for a 7900xt?

[keen nacelle]

Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you get a good sale

I'd do either this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H7GBtn
Or this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhFJDq
If that mobo in #tech-deals has bios flash could also get that instead of the b660 in the second list

[heady turtle]

It does

[real echo]

Just got a rx6600 and installed it in my pc. Was installing the drivers and randomly got BSOD that says CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT. I’m running an i5-11400 with 3200 16gb ram dual channel. My psu is 550W. I also never had a gpu installed on here before. I’ve just been using the intel igpu. Any ideas for why this is happening

[livid idol]

Run DDU and tell it to delete the Intel drivers and the AMD drivers

!ddu

[dreamy dragon]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[real echo]

I uninstall the cpu drivers?

Ohh nvm got it

Also it’s been stuck on BSOD at 0% for sometime now

Is it safe to just force restart it?

[livid idol]

yeah

[real echo]

Do I reinstall the intel drivers after or just the amd ones?

[hasty sphinx]

If you don't plan on using the iGPU just install the AMD drivers.

[real echo]

Alright thanks 🙏

Everything works! Thanks everyone

[forest oasis]

how is the radeon 7900xtx's rt perf? is it around the 30 series rt perf? worse or better
(reposting from general)

[livid idol]

According to hardware unboxed it's still pretty close to the 4080 even with RT on

Since their benchmark suite includes RT on

Example

Breakdown RT vs RT off at 4k

So in this game it matches the 3090 ti with RT on high

[odd siren]

3090/Ti-ish

So it's pretty usable really

[forest oasis]

that's pretty good ngl

[odd siren]

Yeah it's not bad, it's not touching 40 series but it's not bad

[forest oasis]

i honestly thought it would be closer to like, idk

3060 or smth lol

[odd siren]

And that along with blender are it's only two serious weaknesses

[wicked hound]

Production is still AMD's big weakness, lots of CUDA only stuff still.

Then even if program X works with OpenCL, perf is half the time not great compared to CUDA.

[odd siren]

The fact it does as well as it has in specviewperf and video editing is pretty significant imo

Yes there will be cuda favoured tasks but on the whole it does really well compared to last gen

That dual hardware encoder helped it sway that favour by a LOT

Granted you'd avoid like H.264 for example for quality sake, but that might improve with drivers

There's also a few production benchmarks where it lags behind last gen RDNA2 like Maya, which I would think will be fixed in time as well

But overall it's doing really well. Blender is a significant weakness

You could look at it the other way now, some tasks favour CUDA, some favour RDNA

[summer olive]

why did the price of 7900 xtx go up to 1599

it was at 1399 wasn't it

[odd siren]

It should be 999 to 1099 shouldn't it?

Lol

[summer olive]

I just don't really know the reason behind the price raise

[odd siren]

People taking advantage of the demand

Is the short-handed version

XTX isn't worth more than the price it released really

[summer olive]

well I guess I'll wait then

[idle idol]

It'll go down after the Holidays.

[heady turtle]

Probably a 3rd party seller

[livid idol]

Scalpers make me sick

[gentle rover]

Should I get a 7900 cycle or the 3090ti

[odd siren]

Definitely the cycle

This yes?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/253945575009

[gentle rover]

I meant xtx 😂

[odd siren]

Lololol

I know

But cycle?

XTX is a great card

[gentle rover]

I’m thinking about it now lmao

[odd siren]

XTX does just about everything a 3090 TI can and the ray tracing is about equal

So you pay for everything else essentially being better bar certain specific tasks

[gentle rover]

Interesting

Okay 👌

[odd siren]

But I mean depends on price my friend

An XTX is worth no more than the msrp it came out for

A 3090 ti? I wouldn't pay more than like 800 max

6950XT is 800 and that's a decent buy

[oak rivet]

3090ti over 6950xt if both at same price

[livid idol]

Sure, but they're not lol. Cheapest 3090 ti is the FE at $1100 and out of stock.

There's a used one on eBay for $1100 and that's the cheapest there atm

[heady turtle]

Honestly these days get the 700$ 6900xt formula or grab a 7900xt for 900$ if you're not willing to wait for 7900xtx

[livid idol]

Right, at least the 7900 XT can be found close to msrp unlike the 4080

[heady turtle]

Still in stock on amds site last i checked

And xfx have a reference board at amz wegg and bb for 900

[livid idol]

The AMD site seems borked, infinite redirect

[heady turtle]

Weird

[livid idol]

Tried another browser and after 20 redirects finally got to a queue page

[heady turtle]

I got on just fine they just don't like you

[livid idol]

Which is also infinitely redirecting

[heady turtle]

Rip

[livid idol]

Yeah I entered the stupid captcha 10 times and it just loads another captcha page

On both browsers

[heady turtle]

I did 2 captchas on a vpn

[wicked hound]

It's pretty good to know the site API calls and what returned data should look like for AMD's site. Lets you know fairly quickly the exact point of failure.

[vernal agate]

Just need to get a graphics card for my build. Just going to use it for password cracking, so probably wont grab anything crazy

[heady turtle]

unless that can be gpu accelerated you should just get a cpu with an integrated gpu

[vernal agate]

Already have my build done, got a i9-12900k

[cerulean rover]

12900k has igpu if you just need display out

[vernal agate]

Yea thats what I am doing. Cpu is just sooo slow for password cracking

I have a 970m i think in my old laptop

Way out performs the cpu

But mainly this build is for virtualization

[cerulean rover]

Grab the best GPU that fits in your budget

If you want to throw 400$ at it, grab a 3060ti, that kinda thing

[vernal agate]

Yep need to do some comparisons on password cracking to see if spending x dollars more is worth the performance upgrade

Also wouldnt mind doing vr in the future so need to look at those requirements

[lone pond]

2070 super is a 3060ti or better

[brisk horizon]

6950's and 7900's are sold out basically everywhere but asrock OC formula 6950xt's are still in stock on the website... it doesn't feel right

[odd siren]

The best 6950 btw

Hands down

It has the most bonkers pcb of all of them

Not joking

And it's 799

Lol

[cerulean rover]

2070 super is like 10-15% worse than 3060ti

[brisk horizon]

stop tempting me, that would probably require replacing my rm750X power supply.... my 2080 super is enough

[lone pond]

not if you over clock it

like me

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-champagne-gif-25517549

[odd siren]

Which cpu

[cerulean rover]

and the 3060ti could just overclock and get the same margins over you again...?

[lone pond]

didnt have to spend 400$ though

[brisk horizon]

I'm trying to hold off on the hope of CES price drops. Supply is pretty constrained though, which works against drops

[cerulean rover]

has nothing to do with the performance of the GPU?

[lone pond]

i know

[cerulean rover]

I'm not telling you to buy a 3060ti, I'm saying 3060ti is 10-15% better than 2070 super

[lone pond]

just buy a 3070 instead of a 3060ti

[brisk horizon]

Ryzen. 3800X... I'm waiting for the 5800x3D to drop < $300 and i might upgrade

[odd siren]

Fair, but pray the rdna 3 supply lasts over the demand lol

[lone pond]

yeah i know

[odd siren]

5800X3D and OCF 6950XT will run on an RM750X

Just don't cram the system full of rgb

[lone pond]

RGB is trash

OverRated

[livid idol]

5V RGB is fine that's on a different rail

[odd siren]

Not everyone agrees

[lone pond]

i do

[brisk horizon]

the asrock 6950 will barely fit into my meshify c if I remove the lower drive tray, which, I'm not using

[odd siren]

So do i, but we are but 2 people

[lone pond]

dont care

[odd siren]

Great

[brisk horizon]

I have a stealth build

[cerulean rover]

5v rail not always the most robust so meh

[odd siren]

Oooo

[lone pond]

Best RGB Scheme is Orange And Dark Blue

[livid idol]

Isn't the drive tray in the basement in that case?

[cerulean rover]

don't cram like 50w worth of argb strips

[odd siren]

So you like rgb then?

[lone pond]

no just telling you the best one

[lone pond]

only like that one

[brisk horizon]

Yes, but I have 2 m.2 drives on the MB & don't need the tray

[odd siren]

But you do like rgb in those colours

[lone pond]

yep

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-champagne-gif-25517549

[odd siren]

Me I prefer white or nothing

No rgb here

[lone pond]

thats my build

[brisk horizon]

I have a meshify C w/ solid side panels so I can't see the RGB anyway

meshify C manual says max GPU length is 335 mm w/o front fans...

[lone pond]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

the best budget Mini ITX Case Is Cooler Master NRP200

[odd siren]

Focus 2

[brisk horizon]

I forgot the YT channels I reviewed before buying the meshify, but I could have done worse... it's a good case if a bit small. I have (2) noctua 140mm fan's on the front panel. If I remove the lower drive caddy, I can drop the lower fan to the bottom of the case. There's no place to install the lower mounting screws, but it should clear the GPU. If not, I could put a 120 on the bottom to feed the beast

[odd siren]

Meshify C is very good

I don't think you did a bad choice at all

It may have been pricey but it's very good

[cerulean rover]

Really good case for stealth build imo

[odd siren]

I feel for you with the gpu limits tho

[lone pond]

nice

[odd siren]

I've used a 220T, they're basically the same size

[lone pond]

budget

[odd siren]

Mhm

[lone pond]

k

[brisk horizon]

I paid $252 for the meshify c, 4x8 gb sticks of DDR4 3200 corsair vengance RAM and, and 2 extra fractal 120 mm fans in mid-2020

the case was $89

[odd siren]

You could have a look at the focus 2 if you want to try a bigger but similar case

It has no psu shroud tho

But it's like, $65-ish?

[livid idol]

I wonder what the GPU clearance on the pop air is...

[brisk horizon]

thanks, I'll look into it. The fractal torrent is nice but I don't want lots of fans on the bottom

I really don't need a 6950xt for 1440p gaming, but...

[livid idol]

405mm with the front fans on, that's a solid contender

Lots of color choices too

[brisk horizon]

Uhh... what's 2080 super fe worth? I'm thinking like $300?

[odd siren]

Lolol

[brisk horizon]

$3.50?

[odd siren]

Between 250-300

[brisk horizon]

thanks. A friend is interested in my card, if I upgrade

[lone pond]

180$

[brisk horizon]

dammit

i want the asrock but definitely do not need it

[lone pond]

Alex Jones Is Right

[odd siren]

Would you buy an alex jones asrock

[lone pond]

lol yeah

[odd siren]

What would you want it to be like

[lone pond]

4090 ti

[lone pond]

bam

[odd siren]

💥

[odd siren]

Would you use it, put it on display or bam it

[lone pond]

no i would use it

[odd siren]

What would you do first with it

[lone pond]

overclock it

[lone pond]

yeah

[odd siren]

You'd make jones faster?

[lone pond]

yes

[odd siren]

What if he can't go very fast

[lone pond]

but he can cause I'm water cooling it

[odd siren]

He will drown brother

Ur drowning Alex 💀