bruh
#graphics-cards
knotty lion
odd siren
Usually cards have to be disassembled to fix fans
knotty lion
thats sounds great
why couldn't they just make it so that I can just take off a fan
and put one back on
knotty lion
like it just sounds like
odd siren
knotty lion
a warranty
dusky field
odd siren
So brands use anti-tampering devices to prevent you from taking it apart
knotty lion
and void warranty
knotty lion
So brands use anti-tampering devices to prevent you from taking it apart
i broke the lock on the gpu
that was like attached to my motherboard
knotty lion
yeah idk where it went
odd siren
They fall off a lot
odd siren
They will void your warranty if you replace the fans tho, but fans do fail
Not usually in a couple years but you get my point
knotty lion
well idk where the piece went
odd siren
Even then you should be able to find a replacement for next to nothing
It's not even totally essential
As long as the screws are in
odd siren
Then you're fine lol
brazen tapir
@clear briar I'm so happy you landed a 4090
keen nacelle
Tf is that about me
lone pond
power efficient gpu?
livid idol
What do you need it to do exactly?
lone pond
Not much really
Well, actually not exactly it
I think I asked this here? maybe somewhere else, but it was asked in general and not pwr efficiency
its not a very specific ask so hopefully you can work with it, but ideally just a gpu that can mostly run whatever is currently out and coming out at 1080p on mostly low/medium
livid idol
GT 1030 if you don't need much more than youtube etc
lone pond
GT 1030 if you don't need much more than youtube etc
nah a bit more than a bit more than that 😅
see above
keen nacelle
that, or 6650xt
lone pond
alright thank you
wary idol
Idk we’re to put this in the group but this is what I got. I have a msi ge76 raider it has a 11th gen intel(r) core(tm) i7-11800h 2.30hz 2.30hz. With a 3080 graphics card this is a laptop I am trying to record and go live with stream labs OBS but my my frames drop dramatically when I open up stream labs, can anybody help
lone pond
that, or 6650xt
actually, just thought about it
I know they are a little more than a little...
"immature"
💀
but wb intels gpus 🤔
keen nacelle
I wouldnt, personally. Last I knew that had a miles worth of issues
livid idol
The new Arc ones? They're ok for recent and very popular titles, but anything older than a few years it'll struggle hard
odd siren
Idk we’re to put this in the group but this is what I got. I have a msi ge76 rai...
Sounds like you could be hard thermal throttling
oak rivet
It is also less efficient then its Nvidia and amd brothers
odd siren
11800H and a 3080 should be able to handle it but not if you're just running full power
as good as MSI laptops can be that's a lot of power in a small envelope
My suggestion would be to run a higher fan speed profile, then use Intel XTU to change the power limits under advanced settings to be much lower, or instead use windows power plan to limit the 'Maximum processor state' to something like 60% @wary idol
GPU should likely be able to run untapped but you will want to keep the i9 chip power down
Does it mean less frames? Yes, likely a little bit less, but also likely far, far more consistent
odd siren
It is also less efficient then its Nvidia and amd brothers
Support the underdog 💀
We need a triopoly not a duopoly 
💀
livid idol
Oh I'm totally still getting an A380 and sticking it in my server
It'll make a great plex transcoder
frail sentinel
yes but can't oc them
fringe scroll
yes but can't oc them
Wym u cant oc them
livid idol
Overclocking isn't limited to "OC edition", that just means it's got a small overclock from the factory
fringe scroll
Yuh what he said
vital oriole
^
fringe scroll
Uh huh
fringe scroll
Oc models just have a lil extra boost from factory
odd siren
If that even
frail sentinel
from what i read thezotac cards have limited oc capabilities compared to other brands
odd siren
It really doesn't matter
vital oriole
yes, but it doesn't matter
livid idol
If it's a power limit issue just flash another brand's vbios
odd siren
from what i read thezotac cards have limited oc capabilities compared to other b...
Your silicon lottery will make or break that statement so fast
vital oriole
^
odd siren
I've seen strix cards barely meet their clocks they came with
vital oriole
lol
fringe scroll
Damm
odd siren
Meanwhile I've seen gigabyte, supposedly horrible vision cards run wayyyyy above the rest
vital oriole
Silicon lottery is such a random thing
fringe scroll
That's so anoying
frail sentinel
also i am running 2 hdmi tv's so i prefer that compared to doing an adapter
vital oriole
erm
frail sentinel
i know
vital oriole
zotac 3080 has 2 hdmi's too
odd siren
also i am running 2 hdmi tv's so i prefer that compared to doing an adapter
Then get a Tuf
No excuse for a strix
Gigabyte cards have 2 hdmi too
fringe scroll
3080 doesn't realy need that big of a cooler lol (talking about strix)
odd siren
and i want a 12gig card
Gaming x trio is far cheaper
vital oriole
that's why we're suggesting cheaper options
why 12 gigs exactly?
even if you run 1440p 10 gigs is plenty
perf difference is nearly zero
fringe scroll
Yuh
vital oriole
Huh
frail sentinel
cause i want to use this card for at least 5 years and in maybe by that time games are going to need 12gigs dedicated ram
vital oriole
Even so I'm sure msi has cheaper card
That still has good port selection
If pny has no 2 hdmi
frail sentinel
not finding cheap msi cards
odd siren
The only time strix made sense was when asus had them on for like, FE msrp a few months ago
Otherwise never
It's a waste for the normal person
There's so many options before strix that make more sense
odd siren
Ye that's the downbin one
odd siren
Well that's sadge
frail sentinel
link?
odd siren
Maybe 3rd party now
vital oriole
it's on newegg
odd siren
The next best option with 2 hdmi, you could buy so many adapters to make up the cost difference
870+
Vs this for 740
frail sentinel
its still a bit more expensive then the one i linked
frail sentinel
also i was going to use mine to mine
vital oriole
gpu mining is dead
i wouldn't worry about it
but if you really want to, you're not losing on anything compared to strix
wicked hound
Also assuming it wasnt, you'd be getting an LHR card that iirc is like 75% of FHR
odd siren
Also assuming it wasnt, you'd be getting an LHR card that iirc is like 75% of FH...
Latest drivers remove LHR iirc
frail sentinel
ur talking about getting it from best buy?
odd siren
But again, doesn't matter
vital oriole
yes
odd siren
Mining dead
livid idol
Assuming you get free power you'll only make 40 cents a day
At 10 cents per KWh it's negative 18 cents
odd siren
its still a bit more expensive then the one i linked
Yours is more expensive lol
frail sentinel
ouch
odd siren
740 vs 799
frail sentinel
should i just get a 6800 instead?
vital oriole
So it's just sitting there making what, tens of cents per two days lmao
With a single 1660s
odd siren
should i just get a 6800 instead?
Honestly you'd get more fps with a 6900XT
livid idol
6800 XT is more than capable of 1440p high, it ties the 3080
4k is a little different
odd siren
3080 12gb on newest drivers might win 4K tbh
Idk if that's been evaluated yet but 522.25 gave a big uplift
livid idol
Yeah 3080 wins at 4k because larger memory bandwidth
vital oriole
it even gave pascal some uplift
not much for most titles bit definitely a consistent difference
vital oriole
rip
then strix it is
other cards either costs the same or too close for an adapter to make sense
frail sentinel
yup
heady turtle
It's tempting to grab it and run it with my 3600 lmao
Immediately dies due to detecting your mobo 
lavish rain
solemn panther
Nice
knotty lion
Someone drop a 3080 from new egg that's good, but not mad expensive
I'm okay with 10 gig or 12 gig
heady turtle
Someone drop a 3080 from new egg that's good, but not mad expensive
id do this instead https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-10gb-xlr8-gaming-revel-epic-x-rgb-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-lhr-with-triple-fan-black/6505528.p
but if it must be newegg, this ones better but not worth 100$ more imo
https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-gaming-trio-plus-12g-lhr/p/N82E16814137763
knotty lion
id do this instead https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-10gb...
i'm sorry a gpu for msrp?
ive never seen the light of day
also how many watts reccommend,
psu
heady turtle
850w A tier from this list https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ in the us atm this is best https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1
wooden helm
Is $420usd for a Evga rtx 3070 xc3 ultra any good someone local selling it since I see new is $569
heady turtle
Is $420usd for a Evga rtx 3070 xc3 ultra any good someone local selling it since...
Quite a bad price for a used card since you can get new 3070s for 500$
fringe scroll
Yea u can get a used 3080 for the 500 area too
wooden helm
Yea u can get a used 3080 for the 500 area too
I never see any 3080 for 500
wooden helm
Quite a bad price for a used card since you can get new 3070s for 500$
What would be a good price for a 3070 used
fringe scroll
I never see any 3080 for 500
Most of the used 3080s on ebay are around the 550ish area
wicked hound
Waifu 3080-10 basically $580 - $620 new most of the time, used market would have to compete with stuff like that.
hasty monolith
what is amd equivalent to 3060
livid idol
6600 XT
6700 XT is roughly a 3060 ti
6650 XT falls between them and is a great value right now
hasty monolith
6600 XT
i need a new gpu to replace my 2 gig gpu. i know since my cpu and motherboard is a bit too slow for a 6600xt or 6700xt that it will have a bottleneck but if i could play games at 1080p60 i really dont care
keen nacelle
i need a new gpu to replace my 2 gig gpu. i know since my cpu and motherboard i...
6650xt normally cheaper than 6600xt
I'd just get that. What cpu do you have?
livid idol
Those GPUs are definitely capable of more than 1080p60. At high settings you can easily do 120, assuming the CPU can keep up.
random walrus
I'd just get that. What cpu do you have?
Same guy from #building-and-recc-chat with a 4670k
livid idol
Yeah that'll definitely hold back anything more than maybe a 1060
random walrus
At 1080p60 I don't think the bottleneck would be too bad with a 6650xt
I guess they could look at used 10 or 20 series
jagged salmon
6800xt lc liquid cooled cards have been scarce atleast 1 found an owner it still fits well in a case that fits only 1 upright 360lc cooler but doesnt fit well with a 360 lc cooled cpu topped concept. Air cooled Graphics Cards could fit a 360lc liquid cooler or forced to use either a nhd15s chromax black or try Arctic 120lc thick radiator that was rated to cooling off a trick or treat r9 12core powersaving 5900 feature but i dont have power saving
heady turtle
What would be a good price for a 3070 used
Probably 300ish although I'm not in the us so I don't look at used prices often, type 3070 and check ebay for sold listings
oak rivet
Yeah that'll definitely hold back anything more than maybe a 1060
1080* more like
livid idol
Considering my FX 8300 struggled with a 1060 3gb and the 4670k isn't that much faster I'll give it maybe a 1070
wooden helm
Probably 300ish although I'm not in the us so I don't look at used prices often,...
Yea I looked though for like 10 mins cheapest I can find is $379 plus shipping so puts it about $400 then there is tax on eBay so then it’s like $440
severe basin
Think we'll see more burned up 16 pin connectors in the next couple of weeks? Someone on reddit already posted a case.
heady turtle
Possibly it's an interesting situation
hasty sphinx
Think we'll see more burned up 16 pin connectors in the next couple of weeks? So...
Think of how many have already had this issue, but haven't posted it.
crystal storm
ayyo im trying to upgrade from m,y 2080 what should i nget
hasty sphinx
Think we'll see more burned up 16 pin connectors in the next couple of weeks? So...
Def being seeing more of it in the coming weeks.
hasty sphinx
ayyo im trying to upgrade from m,y 2080 what should i nget
Budget?
hasty sphinx
fugg uhhhhhhhhhh lets just say ballpark number of around 5 or 450
For a little over your budget.. can get a 6750xt. Not gonna be a huuuuuge upgrade, but will be a pretty decent boost. Otherwise can grab a 6700xt thats right at the top of your budget.
Anything else isn't worth the cost for upgrading up from your 2080 unless you get a bit higher budget.
odd siren
Think we'll see more burned up 16 pin connectors in the next couple of weeks? So...
Absolutely will. You should look up on cablemod's guide about this, they found something nvidia apparently didn't
What this basically means is any 40 series itx is currently out the window for now without some 90 degree or 180 degree adapter on the 16 pin side
hasty sphinx
Cablemod is amazing. I bet they'll get even more sales now
odd siren
Definitely using their custom extension, they have an anti bending brace on the 16 pin side
Not gonna use the adapter now if the suprim turns up first
livid idol
They've also got 90 degree and 180 degree extensions coming
livid idol
Leave it to Nvidia to solve a problem only they have and make everything worse with the solution
odd siren
Leave it to Nvidia to solve a problem only they have and make everything worse w...
This was exactly buildzoids words 
livid idol
Where do you think I got it lol
wicked hound
What this basically means is any 40 series itx is currently out the window for n...
Given that one build with the vert mount had seemingly no pressure on cable, it's even more concerning. Sure it was a tight bend, but if a weak sharp bend is all it takes to murder some people then that is much scarier then a very strong sharp bend (any other ATX cable, with using an absolute insane amt of strength).
odd siren
It definitely needed more slack that's for sure
But even still, nvidia should've found this
They said it was essentially addressed
wicked hound
I had always been under the assumption that a strong sharp bend was required for death of connector and deemed the controversy "fake news" more or less, now idk. Hopefully that instance was a one off, but who knows.
odd siren
We'll likely see more, but as I said before, Cablemod was onto this stuff pretty quick
You also have derbauer's wireview, I'll probably be grabbing one of these two
wicked hound
Wonder how much testing CM did before and after the rumors first started appearing
odd siren
Idk why they didn't just opt for 3x8 really
Now that we know what the 4090 behaves like, 525W isn't unreasonable
Like I get it, squeeze the space for it down, but now we have this
wicked hound
If they wanted a new 600w connector, literally just do solid pin EPS but 10p instead of 8p
livid idol
Idk why they didn't just opt for 3x8 really
Because they wanted to cram as much power as possible into the 4090 to ensure AMD wouldn't catch them again in the top end.
wicked hound
12p would be nice for safety, but should be quite doable with 10p
odd siren
I did just say to squeeze the space down
livid idol
3x8 pin, sure. 4x8 pin, that's ridiculous
livid idol
What I find more concerning is people looked up the spec on those wires and nvidia is pushing more than they're rated for
odd siren
They are?
wicked hound
Given how dumb Nvidia can be with this kind of stuff, they wouldnt dare allow anyone to violate spec what so ever. They absolutely despise those who violate their GPU spec by a fair bit (by say, doing vBIOS modding)
wicked hound
What I find more concerning is people looked up the spec on those wires and nvid...
Did the people consider that cable specs can generally change for cable length
odd siren
Oops I cut it off
Lmaooo
662W is the next word there
Trying again:
But I still think it's weird they didn't just ship them all with a 525W vbios and 3x8 at this point
Like adding more power draw, only like, the gaming OC and FE use it, but the results are just excess power
Bit pointless really
livid idol
I love this though
odd siren
It really is that tho
The plastic can't handle it
But find a high temperature non-ferrous non-conductive material to mould around those connectors and it's not that easy
livid idol
Someone, maybe cablemod, will design a solution that fixes nvidia's fix
Maybe some sort of clamping mechanism that prevents the wires from separating from the connector
And it would probably cost pennies per connector and it'll turn into a big "why didn't you do that in the first place" scandal and recall
fringe scroll
Waht!?!?!?
fading glacier
odd siren
fading glacier
90 degrees xtreme bending for 600w.... me no like
there is no way that plug can be bent, even on vertical mounting the bending to the side is extreme as buildzoid said
all my chips on amd not using the 12vhpwr please
severe basin
all my chips on amd not using the 12vhpwr please
They're planning on it, Intel (who worked to approve the spec) is the only gpu that will not be using it, coincidentally...
heady turtle
all my chips on amd not using the 12vhpwr please
Time to put power connector where gpu is because bad power connector design kek
muted slate
Hopefully they put the connector on the other side or the front of the card like they did with the evga 3090 ti
to reduce the bend
fading glacier
you have to bend it as well, no matter where the connector is
not as extreme but anyway, the moment you bend it then the connector will start degrading to the point of melting because suboptimal contact to my understanding
as someone said an adapter create a point of unnecessary resistance which produce heat at those power levels thus creating an additional point of failure
ivory herald
Instead of pcb connector being a 90 already & then needing an adapter, they should've tried a straight 180 for a change. 
heady turtle
as someone said an adapter create a point of unnecessary resistance which produc...
Inb4 someone releases extension that comes out of gpu, goes over backplate so cable can have no bends
wicked hound
Inb4 someone releases extension that comes out of gpu, goes over backplate so ca...
inb4 someone makes wireless GPU so bendy cable is removed from existence
fading glacier
nov 3 is so far away
heady turtle
Lol
ivory gale
wow that gigabyte gaming stock went so fast i ddnt have time to blink to see the buy button
rip
livid idol
Hard to beat the bots
ivory gale
yea still trying...
At least if there is enough stock at once you have a chance to try and buy it without using a bot
but i dont think thats been the case with newegg restocks so far at all
1 minute tops
everyone was saying stock would be good.. and you could buy it in 2 weeks to a month. now im starting to wonder if they will be saying in 2 months soon
and etc
livid idol
Blame nvidia for releasing only a little bit at a time and "controlling the market"
ivory gale
if a order using store credit card code gets voided will it easily refund the balance or be a pain ?
or rather wil it take anything off it in the first place
livid idol
Assuming you mean the newegg site, I have no idea how that system works. Maybe try DM'ing @cursive urchin since that's the actual employees.
wicked hound
Trying to take a look at the NE API to see how hard it'd be to beat an efficient bot, looks like it's possible to do a lot checks/actions via raw HTML requests instead of using the site UI. If so, a well designed bot would be near impossible to beat, can do a few basic HTML requests for checking availability/adding to cart in the same amt of time a user would load the page from a page reload. Having an efficient site kinda backfires on the customers when dealing with bots lol.
wicked hound
Finished checking API. Very possible to make an efficient bot that'd heck on anything (bot or user) using site UI.
ivory gale
it sucks but ill keep trying
waxen ginkgo
Imm boutta get an asus rog strix 3080 but I wanna know what’s the difference between the v1 and v2 and which one is better for gaming
fading glacier
@waxen ginkgo both are identical these days
v1 was the full hash rate version and v2 was the LHR version
no impact at all on gaming
waxen ginkgo
I’ll just get the v1 since it’s cheaper
hasty monolith
is 6800 or 6800 xt a better card
odd siren
XT is better but will cost more 9 times of 10
make sure your power supply is good enough to handle it
dreamy dragonBOT
Safi#9691 has been warned
oak rivet
💀
hasty monolith
make sure your power supply is good enough to handle it
750w do the job?
odd siren
750w do the job?
750w what model name and product code
also what cpu are you using
oh 5600x i see that
other channel kek
odd siren
chances are you can but just be wary of this:
6800XT should be in the same boat as these
hasty monolith
oh
odd siren
you should be able to
hasty monolith
what does that exactly mean
odd siren
one sec I'll give you a vid
have a watch of this
so again I say, you should be fine, but just remember that footnote in case you run into issues with a 6800XT in your system
balmy magnet
so if PCPP says "Estimated Wattage: 634W" and I have a Corsair RM650 (2019) should I be looking into a PSU?
balmy magnet
odd siren
definitely not overclocked, stock I think you might barely get away with it
odd siren
3060 is fine
I think you'd want a 850W there imo
RM650 is a beautiful unit but it wouldn't last I don't think
livid idol
If you already have the 650W you can try using it and if it shuts down on you during normal use/gaming you know what to replace
balmy magnet
if i put the GPU to the 3060 it says Est. Wattage is 504W, so i was never worried about it til i was thinking of swapping GPUs
odd siren
like gaming it would likely work, but you couldn't push the gpu and cpu both at the same time without overdrawing
850W gives you a comfortable redundancy imo
livid idol
Game like cyberpunk it will struggle with since it loads the gpu AND cpu heavily
balmy magnet
and they're both OC'd atm
keen nacelle
if i put the GPU to the 3060 it says Est. Wattage is 504W, so i was never worrie...
I've ran a 6800xt on the same psu, but much lower wattage cpu
And no cpu ocing
odd siren
if you have all those parts but the gpu rn I would swap psu as well
or kneecap the 12700K to 200W
OC'd that thing pulls as much or more than 12900K on ambient
with those numbers as well you'd have to be wary of how much rgb you have in your system that's loading up 5V
wouldn't count for the 650W iirc but it'll matter for overdrawing
livid idol
OCP on the RM650 is set to 125% on the 12V rail so in theory you can push it to 800W before accounting for transient loads
odd siren
can but how long would you last is the question lol
keen nacelle
Honestly just throw nvlink 4090s on it
Best way to make sure you have issues with psu
balmy magnet
is Cinebench a good way to check CPU watts for the OC or is there something better?
livid idol
can but how long would you last is the question lol
Until OTP kicks in at 157C which I doubt will happen
livid idol
Or OPP for full system draw at 850W
balmy magnet
i'll have to check P95 after work then
livid idol
Corsair overbuilds their units to be absolute units lol
livid idol
HX 
odd siren
still I wouldn't waste it, it's probably worth more selling
cerulean rover
Corsair overbuilds their units to be absolute units lol
*cwt
livid idol
Exceptions to every rule
cerulean rover
but when looking at otp do remember different components can take different temperatures
livid idol
I meant their good units lol
balmy magnet
if worse comes to worst i have a media PC in the living room i could use the RM650 in, swap out the Microcenter brand PSU in it
odd siren
but when looking at otp do remember different components can take different temp...
don't psu's generally try to stay under like, 50C?
livid idol
No they just don't typically get that hot to start with
cerulean rover
usually don't really care afaik
livid idol
I've seen a 650W unit run a 4090 without the fan even kicking on
odd siren
but still, I would worry especially with the way luke reacted to some psu suggestions, I try not to forget his wisdom
cerulean rover
I mean, there's also passive like 1000w PSUs lol
odd siren
I have one basically
Focus GX
I think Fal recommended it to me tbh lol
but that thing never turns on the fan
dusk socket
hey guys, will i5-13600k good with 4080?
vital oriole
ye
random walrus
Besides memory size, bus-width, and bandwidth; NVIDIA hasn't tinkered with the core-configuration with the RTX 3060 8 GB. It still comes with 3,584 CUDA cores across 28 SM, which work out to 112 Tensor cores, 28 RT cores, 112 TMUs, and 48 ROPs. The GPU's base frequency is set at 1320 MHz, and boost frequency at 1777 MHz—same as the original RTX 3060. Even the typical graphics power is unchanged, at 170 W.
wicked hound
Nvidia at it again with a massive, massive FU to the customers
severe basin
hey guys, will i5-13600k good with 4080?
I think this is the way I'm going to go. But looking forward to see what AMD releases with the 7900x. I prefer raster performance over ray tracing in almost all cases, but I want to go 4k 144hz and AMD's last gpus were better at 1080p/1440p if that trend continues I might opt for the 4080.
odd siren
7900XT*
wicked hound
Would've been way better to call it a 3050Ti given the bandwidth changes. I don't mind new products too much, but bloody heck they need correct naming.
hasty monolith
Did amd announce their 7000 series gpus yet
hasty monolith
So their 6000 series would dropping in price then good to know
odd siren
Lots of people buzzing around saying that you need to make sure the 16 pins are pushed in all the way after you've routed the cable for correct operation
Also seeing 16 pins where the pins fall out on their own
hoary sun
<@922257692926574654>
Looks like vision lol
hoary sun
wraith pasture
What's best aib card for 4090 right now? I heard msi is software power limited
odd siren
physically it would be the suprim
it has probably the best power delivery of the lot
something like 24+4 x 70A
but it is supposedly vbios limited very conservatively
ivory gale
if i cant get a 4090 in time ill just get rdna 3 i guess. definitly not going to do what nvidia wants and buy a 3090 ti
wraith pasture
but it is supposedly vbios limited very conservatively
Yar, that's what im worried about
odd siren
Yar, that's what im worried about
I mean, vbios flash will likely make quick work of that
I've also read the suprim air shipping with 600W so who knows
(I will when mine arrives)
(until then, * shrug *)
fading glacier
So their 6000 series would dropping in price then good to know
no, there is no new announcement about something like that happening
vital oriole
^
wicked hound
vBIOS crossflash works on everything but FE
As for Liquid Suprim, only know one person with it and it had bad memory cooling.
heady turtle
As for Liquid Suprim, only know one person with it and it had bad memory cooling...
Rip why would they do all that effort and have bad vram cooling :(
wicked hound
Rip why would they do all that effort and have bad vram cooling :(
Hopefully one off issue, but idk rn.
heady turtle
Just a yikes
ivory herald
<a:thinking_spin:590239522000994321>
Am I the only one who think of a normal "straight" cable when I hear 180? -- Would be cool to see a 180 port off the card itself like mobo pwr usually it or something different like that.
wicked hound
Took me a long time to realize that the Xbox X/S have an interesting mem config. X has 6x16Gb 14Gbps GDDR6 + 4x8Gbps 14Gbps GDDR6 so it can do 10GB on a 320bit bus and 6GB on a 192bit bus.
Seems moderately smart to get 560GBps mem bandwidth for GPU on X (mostly)
heady turtle
interesting, I have heard dev's despise the series s lol
humble herald
I would like a gpu that gives a 200 fps
humble herald
200 fps in what
Is there something I'm missing?
keen nacelle
what games do you want to play
humble herald
Val
humble herald
Oh?
Right now I have a 1030 lol
Had no clue it was that important
My budget is 500-750--800
ivory herald
Current cpu?
humble herald
Um rez 9 something
keen nacelle
ryzen 9?
humble herald
Ya
keen nacelle
1800x, 3900x?
keen nacelle
3800xt is a good cpu
check what psu you have, would require looking inside of the pc
and ram, can check that in task manager
as well as type of storage
ivory herald
Yep. Perhaps skip cpu upgrade for now until a 5700X or such is a really good deal. A couple decent picks so far can be 6700XT, maybe 3060 ti. Both are a ways under $500 usually. I don't suggest spending too much more right as next gens are coming soon.
humble herald
Was interested in thia
keen nacelle
Power supply
humble herald
So 3060 to give 200 fps so no lag?
keen nacelle
Check what power supply you have
Why specifically 200 fps btw?
What monitor do you have?
humble herald
What monitor do you have?
Lmao it's in the trash
keen nacelle
If you want to spend all your money, id get a 6800xt and a new monitor. But first check what power supply you have
ivory herald
Indeed, even a 3060 ti/6700XT would easily do 200fps in Val. I hit 150ez w/ a 1080 & a... much older cpu. (In apex, the only game I've played that really taxed my cpu).
keen nacelle
I have my fps limited to 165 with a 3060 ti
humble herald
Reading ^
Interesting
750 watt power supply
I have knowledge over my PC but I am still quite lost on gpu understanding
humble herald
I have my fps limited to 165 with a 3060 ti
So in other words it's at its top peek ?
So it handles 165? At max
I just trying to figure out why my PC is falling behind
I get head shot first in a way
And my screen gose black
humble herald
What model psu
Not sure what that is?
ivory gale
funny nvidia had this crazy inventory of 4090's when you can buy a 13900k right now in stock . amazing paper launch
humble herald
humble herald
Psu= power supply
Oh ok
heady turtle
funny nvidia had this crazy inventory of 4090's when you can buy a 13900k right ...
I have a feeling they have way more 4090s than they are selling rn
ivory gale
yea there has been no big restock since release day at leas ton newegg
heady turtle
Decent power supply but wouldn't put anything better than a 3070 ti/6800xt on it though
humble herald
I'm having the power supply powering my PC and my table cupboard for my data
humble herald
Decent power supply but wouldn't put anything better than a 3070 ti/6800xt on it...
Why that's?
ivory gale
the poor suckers that got drawn in by the hype and went home with a 1400 3090 ti somehow
id sooner buy amd
humble herald
So memy get this straight
I should go for a 3060 ti
Or a 3070 ti
And both would give good preference for Val?
ivory herald
Somewhat irrelevant. Many gpus are 8GB and some of the better ones have more. 3060 ti for instance gas 6 & 12GB models but it's worse than a 3070. It's vRam, video ram.
humble herald
Ok so 3060 ti
500$
Or so
And there should be and black screen and lag stuff right?
keen nacelle
that, I'm not sure one
could be ram or gpu, most likely
or psu if the whole pc shuts down
humble herald
Somewhat irrelevant. Many gpus are 8GB and some of the better ones have more. 30...
So it's unlikely for me to use it up all?
keen nacelle
Somewhat irrelevant. Many gpus are 8GB and some of the better ones have more. 30...
?
the 3060 ti has 8, 3060 has 12
ivory herald
My bad. 
was my response to their last question also. Blue rose. Don't worry about it. Games will use up however much vram they need.
humble herald
or psu if the whole pc shuts down
Shut-ing down no I'm sure that fine
It only happens when I play Val it freezes or gose black
I found out that I can pres 4 kesy on my keyboard and the GPU reset and I'm ok
Well win and b and ctrl and something
Also the 1030 only had 2 vrm
Lmao so I think it ran out of space
humble herald
Ya I found a PC that works and got a big size gpu but it sed something like 980 or something but big gpu
And my 1030 was small?
So that's why I'm looking into this gpu stuff
humble herald
My bad. <:Question:859974771612450817> was my response to their last question a...
Already I'm do the 3060 or 3060 ti I'll see what ever is available
Also if there's more screens does that mean more VRAM consumption?
humble herald
the 3060 ti has 8, 3060 has 12
Ill pick one of the fallowing
Any good places to get one?
Or per say
keen nacelle
I'd go either 3060 ti, 6700xt or 6650xt
keen nacelle
3060 ti is about 30% better than 3060, the 6650xt is better than the 3060 and normally cheaper
6700xt is a bit better than 3060 ti
humble herald
If you just listen to your self and look at the numbers for a newbie it's so confusing lol
I'm just stick with 3060 TI
😁
Also I have a question
If I have more screens
What happens?
Does it consumes more....
Ok thanks bacca and chillin
See say
keen nacelle
not really
severe basin
Does it consumes more....
If you are running your game with multiple displays, like the game displays across 3 monitors, you add the displays together horizontally (usually) so if you're got 3 standard 1080p monitors your render resolution would be 5760x1080
severe basin
if you are running your game on one display and using another display for like, discord or a web page, your render resolution would be 1920x1080, and the other display would have minimal effect on game rendering.
humble herald
if you are running your game on one display and using another display for like, ...
Ya that's basically it
And I wouldn't have to do anything in settings?
Or just plug and vwala
severe basin
so running 3 displays for a sim racing game or something it's going to be significantly more taxing for your gpu, but running the game on one display and other stuff on a second it's not going to be as taxing.
humble herald
Alright understand
humble herald
so running 3 displays for a sim racing game or something it's going to be signif...
Oh so like using all 3 for driving a plane simulator
severe basin
you may have to open the Nvidia control panel and play around with options like monitor orientation, resolution, refresh rate etc. but generally speaking monitors are pretty plug and play these days.
humble herald
You wouldn't happen to know about....
Loat my train of thought
Oh ya
What about this over clocking thing
humble herald
you may have to open the Nvidia control panel and play around with options like ...
Ya that makes sense
Also I like to peek in and see what's it about lol
humble herald
What about this over clocking thing
I'll talk about that in overclocking later I should go
Thanks so much
hasty monolith
can you use multiple monitors connected to the same gpu?
hasty sphinx
can you use multiple monitors connected to the same gpu?
yep
livid idol
Absolutely, I'm doing it now
hasty monolith
lets say u got a 3090 can u play games on multiple 4k screens?
livid idol
lets say u got a 3090 can u play games on multiple 4k screens?
Yes
It can do 8k which is 4x4k
hasty monolith
nice. i would do that if i had the room lol
severe basin
It can do 8k which is 4x4k
I thought 8k was 4x 2k
livid idol
It's double in both horizontal and vertical
severe basin
I was mistaken
5k is 4x 2k
and 8k is 4x 4k
because the K stands for thousands of pixels horizontally. (rounded)
livid idol
And the rounding is dubious too because 1920 is a lot closer to 2k than 2560
severe basin
yeah, first thing I thought of
hasty monolith
8k sound very expensive and which no one uses
severe basin
and 4k is 4 TIMES 1080p
but the naming convention has nothing to do with that fact.
severe basin
8k sound very expensive and which no one uses
It's becoming more affordable. but I'm not sure it's becoming more practical. Super large format displays and signage have a case that 8k and beyond is necessary, maybe home cinema stuff.
but gaming in 8k is about like trying to game in 4k 4 years ago.
hasty monolith
It's becoming more affordable. but I'm not sure it's becoming more practical. Su...
but its not really affordable 4 the average person. and u need a high end gpu
at 8k can u actually tell the difference?
severe basin
a 4090 could probably render a game at 8k res but I can't see it being a great experience.
hasty monolith
a 4090 could probably render a game at 8k res but I can't see it being a great e...
probably need like 64 gigs ram though
severe basin
at 8k can u actually tell the difference?
yes and no, we should probably just throw out the term resolution at this point because it requires knowledge of a lot of other variables to make sense.
pixel density is what matters. apple built their whole retina display branding thing around the idea that at a certain pixel density someone sitting a reasonable distance from the screen would no longer be able to distinguish individual pixels.
apple seems to shoot for about 220-250 pixels per inch for laptops and computer monitors. there's a lot of calculous to determine the ideal pixel density for screen size and how far you're sitting from it.
4k at 27" seems to be plenty close to retina from where I'm sitting.
My eyes are about 24-30" away from my display.
at 4k my 2080 super runs games like Horizon Zero Dawn at 60-70 fps on custom but very high settings.
random walrus
4k at 27" seems to be plenty close to retina from where I'm sitting.
should be far past it
severe basin
should be far past it
Yeah, I can't make out pixels.
but that's the thing it's like a threshold that as you approach it you notice improvements up until you go beyond it and the improvements stop "registering"
random walrus
4k 27in is 326ppi
severe basin
I can make out pixels on my 27" 2k monitor
and 27" FHD looks like a joke to me at this point.
random walrus
The issue with "retina" is that it still depends on how close/far you are
random walrus
and 27" FHD looks like a joke to me at this point.
going above 24" 1080p is not ideal
severe basin
I'm a little bummed that everyone moved away from 24" 1440p honestly.
24" 1440p 240hz would be about perfect for me.
now 32" displays are showing up everywhere and I just don't have the desk space to sit far enough away from that size screen to be comfortable.
random walrus
I'm a little bummed that everyone moved away from 24" 1440p honestly.
can just use a 27in panel and push it a bit further away from you though
severe basin
It's true.
random walrus
my phone is a bit overkill tbh
severe basin
I don't know who was asking but I think a 3060 / ti is in the realm of a 2080 super? so 4k should be doable but your best experience will be at 1440p IMO
I guess because they expect you to hold a phone less than 12" from your face.
random walrus
I have good eyesight and even with my phone like 5 inches away I can't see the pixels
iPhone 13 Pro
it's somewhere around 450ppi
looks like some of the Samsung models are even higher, jeez
random walrus
I don't know who was asking but I think a 3060 / ti is in the realm of a 2080 su...
3060ti a bit better than 2080S
severe basin
Yeah I've got a 21+ which is 394ppi but my fiance's ultra is 513ppi
and yeah I can get my phone uncomfortably close without noticing pixels.
random walrus
kinda funny that my phone has a better display than my pc
severe basin
sorta funny but I'm guessing your PC display didn't cost $1200
random walrus
fair
severe basin
i know there's other stuff in a phone
random walrus
well actually it did
more than 1200
but it does a lot of stuff better than the phone
severe basin
lol yeah
I was unimpressed with this phones gaming capability compared to previous phones I've had.
almost like it's driving so many pixels that it's bogging down, where if they had just left it with a reasonable display it would perform better.
random walrus
the most i've thrown at mine is Apex Mobile which locks it to either 60FPS at high graphics or 80fps at lower graphics
cant go up to 120
severe basin
that's pretty reasonable still though.
random walrus
yeah, i just think it's annoying that it's locked
Also my Razer Kishi just barely doesn't fit my phone
It fit before I put a screen protector on...
severe basin
I like seeing the dudes that throw their phone in a dock to use a monitor, kb+m on a mobile game.
livid idol
Yeah lol. I just say "ok sweaty" and move on from that.
severe basin
it looks pretty silly and they're at a definite mechanical advantage to anyone playing on mobile.
also though I get that not everyone can afford a PC but at this point almost everyone HAS to have a phone (at least in the USA, it's a bit like a car. Can't live without one)
livid idol
I used to install smart homes and security. If you're under 65 that's 100% true but there's about 10% of people over 65 that don't have or want a smart phone. Some don't even have internet access.
(side note: the sales rep that set up my jobs was supposed to vet out the ones that don't have those things but they had to ding my numbers instead of theirs and set them up with appointments anyway)
ivory gale
well safe to hang up the 4090 windows and stock tracker for the night and play some games . the watch will begin again tomm morning i feel like it will be the day i get a chance to checkout again and have order voided
moment of silence for those who caved and bough overpriced 30 series stock in the last couple weeks. rip
livid idol
Used 3080 for $400 has been a bangin' deal though
oak rivet
wicked hound
Thanks Nvidia for the poor quality control. Seriously don't know how this slipped past Nvidia QC.
12VHPWR as a whole is okay enough, so I think it should be good in like a month or smth after new cables are being supplied.
livid idol
That's about what I figured. "We fixed the problem already" means "we fixed it on new ones after X date" and they didn't bother unboxing and replacing ones already packed.
Even though they forced all their partners to unbox and repack everything with the "4080" debacle... Hypocrites.
hasty sphinx
Jeeze. Why is Nvidia like this?
odd siren
Gonna have a read of this later, I always like Igorslab content
odd siren
https://www.igorslab.de/en/adapter-of-the-gray-analyzed-nvidias-brand-hot-12vhpw...
WTF
So they remove the redundancy of ATX 2.0 8 pins, and then you don't even get all 6 pins??
Omg, I'm not touching that adapter with a 10 foot pole
fading glacier
https://www.igorslab.de/en/adapter-of-the-gray-analyzed-nvidias-brand-hot-12vhpw...
omg, that solder job.... approved for 600+ watts?
that article is fit for halloween
no doubt a simple bend could break the whole connector causing overheating heck even a short circuit
hot kiln
how do I overclock my intel hd 3000
livid idol
how do I overclock my intel hd 3000
Do you have a K CPU and Z motherboard?
muted slate
https://www.igorslab.de/en/adapter-of-the-gray-analyzed-nvidias-brand-hot-12vhpw...
damn that looks terrible
hasty sphinx
Omg, I'm not touching that adapter with a 10 foot pole
you don't say.... ❤️
wicked hound
Decided to make this cuz lots of misleading data for Ampere to Ada perf jump due to non-GPU limited scenarios. Still want to add more data, esp to RT area. Tho not so fun going to all reviewers sites and having to manually copy all data down cuz everything is in video or picture format. Also need to properly go through data to find what looks to be non-GPU limited instead of using simple box&whisker. 3090/3090Ti raster perf are 58.6%/65.2% of 4090 based on this, but that will prolly get lower as I add more GPU limited data.
I also managed to completely misremember the name of Hardware Unboxed and put it in as "Unboxed Boxed". Welp
Red data is what I consider to be outliers, just removing them puts 3090/3090Ti raster perf to 57.1%/64.3% of 4090. Tho I need a better method of finding outliers (usually by just more data) else it becomes cherrypicking results.
livid idol
What do you want to know about it?
tacit panther
Hey can someone help me I’m having trouble figuring out for aorus if master or Xtreme is better
tacit panther
Off base is master better 2?
livid idol
Actually it looks like there's several versions of each, do you have links so I can figure out which ones?
livid idol
I'd go for the master, looking more into them the master has a higher base power limit but both have the same overclock power limit
livid idol
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325401697804?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&s...
This listing ended
And I wouldn't pay over $600 for a used 3080 right now
Maybe before the crypto crash
wicked hound
@livid idol @tacit panther Extreme has higher PL and is 3*8P instead of 2*8P like the Master. More pins means easier time getting highest vBIOS crossflash PL
livid idol
<@396513761550270464> <@287017494944940043> Extreme has higher PL and is 3\*8P i...
Then why do I see 450W vbios for the master on tpu
livid idol
Yeah as I mentioned lol, several versions of each
wicked hound
General rule for Master tho: If getting Master, make sure it has 3*8P
wicked hound
Getting 3*8P GPU is something one should try decently hard to aim for, but dont spend a bunch of extra money for it compared to other listings.
wicked hound
Should I got for the xtreme one then that is 480?
Pretty sure that is a decent price, but idk US market so cant really say.
livid idol
$480 is good but that one sold already
There's this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/325401686710
tacit panther
So if it was still there vs the other one
livid idol
Assuming both are 3x 8 pin models just whichever is cheaper
livid idol
They've either got more than one (very possible with mining) or the buyer backed out
100% positive feedback from the seller so I'd trust it
tacit panther
Yeah has a good amount of reviews
Thanks for the hand holding along the way made it allot easier
tacit panther
Yeah it always helps me in these situations been trying to upgrade my 580 that I got for like $20 which was probally mined on been wanting to play cyber punk🤭
livid idol
Oof yeah a 580 would struggle a bit at anything above 1080p low
You're upgrading power supply too right? Unless you already had a good 850W or an excellent 750W
brave jolt
What do you want to know about it?
Stock and cables to run with it
tacit panther
Oof yeah a 580 would struggle a bit at anything above 1080p low
Yeah I have a 1000 watt all my pc is built high end but the 580 tried buying a 3070 when it came out but the bots got them
tacit panther
Oof yeah a 580 would struggle a bit at anything above 1080p low
Runs below 60 in most areas on all low
1080
random walrus
rx580?
livid idol
Stock and cables to run with it
Stock you'll have problems with unless you buy from a store in person, like a microcenter (preferably) or best buy. Bots are buying up all the online stock and they've gotten very good.
Any power supply that has 4 of the 8 pin cables (preferably separate cables) will work.
livid idol
I don't think Asus had the melting issue. It was just a QC issue with the supplier for Nvidia FE cables.
livid idol
Oh that I hadn't heard yet. I bet EVGA is very happy to not have to deal with that nonsense.
vital oriole
lmao yeah
livid idol
That plus the "4080" scandal and the AIBs are getting extra shafted this gen.
vital oriole
yee
double whammy
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-officially-introduces-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-and-rtx-3060-ti-gddr6x
when there's not enough skus already
3060ti with g6x and 8 gigs 3060
livid idol
omfg the 6X barely helped the 70 ti what makes them think it'll help the 60 ti
oak rivet
Well what is it priced like
oak rivet
3060ti was already very close to 3070 with g6x could get even closer when overclocked for cheaper ig
vital oriole
4060 will launch next year anyway
oak rivet
That's still months
vital oriole
buying 3060ti new rn sounds like a meh idea
oak rivet
General public will buy gpus in the meantime
vital oriole
might as well just get used 3070
livid idol
3060ti was already very close to 3070 with g6x could get even closer when overcl...
The issue I have is that the G6X only got the 3070 ti an extra 2% overall
oak rivet
70ti had a core bump as well
vital oriole
and yet it offered little to no increase
oak rivet
5888 vs 6144
livid idol
Which accounts for most of the 2%
vital oriole
difference will be basically zero with 3060ti's case lmao
no core changes ever
just vram
oak rivet
vital oriole
same bus width
oak rivet
Well that sounds dumb
vital oriole
just a little more bandwidth that doesn't even matter
19 gbps vs 12
oop 14 i meant
oak rivet
Should have done a little but cuda core bump
Might make a bit difference at 4k but will see
livid idol
3060 still goes for $370
3060 ti goes for $430
I'd expect the new ti to land flat between there
This is all super basic models
vital oriole
ye
livid idol
And the 8gb might actually end up going for what the original msrp of the 3060 was gasp
We haven't seen it at that price since it launched
vital oriole
some marketing tactics
oak rivet
Yeah
livid idol
Nvidia reeks of desperation again, like when they scrambled all the "super" models and 16 series to respond to 5700 XT daring to come close to them
wicked hound
And the 8gb might actually end up going for what the original msrp of the 3060 w...
Problem is going to be pretty decent perf difference unless they use G6X on 8GB 3060
oak rivet
5700xt was no threat vs 2080ti
vital oriole
just sneaking it in there
also amd is doing that 1600 af thing again
this time it's 3600 af
livid idol
Problem is going to be pretty decent perf difference unless they use G6X on 8GB ...
Right the 8gb 3060 has a mem bandwidth cut
vital oriole
5600 disguised as 3000 series
but ofc it's hard as heck to find
not worth looking for
livid idol
5700xt was no threat vs 2080ti
It was never meant to be, it competed with the 2070. They named it with a 7 to show that.
vital oriole
^
livid idol
They did 2080 super because they could
oak rivet
Well if you compare the best gen for gen
oak rivet
6900xt vs 3090 was the first I saw amd get close to beating Nvidia absolute best
livid idol
I really want an A380 for my plex server, once they get AV1 sorted it'll be a beast for transcoding
vital oriole
yeah
wicked hound
Right the 8gb 3060 has a mem bandwidth cut
Even with 19.5Gbps G6X, still wouldnt be equal to older one. Might be close enough to be within margin of error tho.
livid idol
They did tho
vital oriole
otherwise imma just go with 3060 lappy as usual
livid idol
In China
oak rivet
Even if intel fixes driver the A770 seems slower then my current card
vital oriole
yeah, but not for higher end models
and not in china
a770 is supposedly 3070 perf
drivers are just so broken
wicked hound
A770 will always be a hugely mixed bag
oak rivet
Ehh 16gb vram at this price range sounds kinda nice
vital oriole
lmao
hence issues
idk why intel chose to cut hardware support for dx 10 and lower
it's stupid
magic wing
because lazy
oak rivet
It's a forward facing architecture it should do better on newer games releasing from here on out
vital oriole
cuz old games obviously doesn't exist
well the problem is even nvidia still keeps support for older dx versions
livid idol
idk why intel chose to cut hardware support for dx 10 and lower
They wanted to focus on modern games and the most popular ones on the steam chart first, DX9 are way old games by now
vital oriole
ye
livid idol
They'll get to them, eventually
magic wing
They wanted to focus on modern games and the most popular ones on the steam char...
but csgo :(
wicked hound
drivers are just so broken
Arc cant handle low occupancy loads well, that's an architecture design issue. No fixing that with drivers. Will only be good at high occupancy loads, which is rare-ish for FHD. It's also why Arc scales so well in FHD to UHD, low occupancy perf is bad and high occupancy perf is good.
vital oriole
but dx 10 is still like in many not too old games
oak rivet
It doesn't do that well in cyberpunk even tho it's a priority 1 game
vital oriole
ah well
livid idol
but csgo :(
And GTAV, the sad casualties
vital oriole
so it only excels in higher res
where it pushes the gpu
that's pretty weird behavior
livid idol
Yep it does really well in 1440p, sometimes better than it does at 1080p lmao
magic wing
inb4 intel igpu beats their dedicated cards at csgo
wicked hound
I mean high occupancy workloads can happen in FHD, so I wouldnt 100% write it off. But it will always be a mixed bag cuz different games have different workloads
oak rivet
livid idol
They leveraged the REBAR hard and the result is it performs well when the bandwidth is needed
wicked hound
FHD will most likely always be not great, QHD will most likely be mixed bag, and UHD will most likely be "good" (comparitively, but still unplayable).
vital oriole
lol
oak rivet
best to just give it higher res to make sure it gets the load
Well its competing gpus aren't really that great at 1440p
vital oriole
so it's a rebar card, and only shines in high load
no rebar, perf falls into pieces
vital oriole
sad
wicked hound
They leveraged the REBAR hard and the result is it performs well when the bandwi...
Also latency. Basically everything but iirc L1 cache latency is really high (math, other cache, VRAM, etc). That stuff can only be "hidden" under high occupancy workloads
vital oriole
arc is a mess and a half
oak rivet
People buying gpus this cheap majority are still on 1080p
vital oriole
that's true, but in arc's case 1080p just doesn't do well
oak rivet
It's ray tracing performance is on par with Nvidia soo that's nice to see
vital oriole
it won't be worth buying until next gen comes, where they fix that stuff. maybe, hopefully
wicked hound
Plus its issue with low bandwidth per Xe Core (SM/CU in Nvidia/AMD terms). Needs to have a while bunch of Xe Cores in use to get its "high" bandwidth, which again points to high occupancy workloads.
vital oriole
their software and arch is a mess
livid idol
There's more people on 720p than 4k still
vital oriole
That's gonna cause a cpu bottleneck
oak rivet
Also maybe get 13400
wicked hound
Depends on what 4070 we are talking about
oak rivet
Cause 4070 is said to be 3090 perf
By the time 4070 comes games would have gotten much more demanding gpu wise
vital oriole
ye perhaps
wicked hound
The 4070 4070, or 4080 4070
livid idol
Or the 4070 ti 4080 4070
vital oriole
I would still throw 1440p on it
Better than having risk of cpu bottleneck
Stutters are no fun
oak rivet
Gotham knights is the only game where 12900k is having a hard time keeping up consistent 80fps
oak rivet
Spider man actually uses the threads much more efficiently
Gotham knights hammers one of em and causes the whole game to lag
I saw it on my 10400f it was absolutely destroying thread 5
wicked hound
The 40XX-12/4080-16 is going to be ~59%/~75% raster perf of 4090. The 3090/3090Ti are ~57%/~64% of the 4090. Use that data for whatever.
livid idol
6 physical cores are the most common right now with 33%, followed by 4 cores at 31%. Not all 4 cores have hyperthreading, so they might have made the engine based on 4 threads only.
wicked hound
well i guess it's more like 3080ti
I mean we still dont know what Nvidia's 4070 will be. Given they tried to have a 4060Ti "4080", and they do have a 4070(Ti) "4080" and 4080Ti "4090", its really hard to tell what Nvidia will do.