they have, 40 series have a massive L2 cache
#graphics-cards
quartz gull
Also is anyone with an 80 class or 90 class playing at 1080/1440 still? High refresh 4k monitors are a lot more affordable
fading glacier
1080 dont think so, 1440p definitely are
keen nacelle
Also is anyone with an 80 class or 90 class playing at 1080/1440 still? High ref...
500 minimum
M32u one of the cheapest decent quality ones at 600
With a 3080, id still go 1440p
normal hawk
4090 has 96mb of l2
4090 has 72 MB
keen nacelle
3090, could go either way. Mainly because of how much you're spending
4080 16gb and 4090, 100% 4k
quartz gull
I didn't even see this, look at the non dlss graphs, this is an Nvidia chart...
4080 16gb at 1/2 the performance, 12gb at almost 1/3
That gray bar is such a difference it's blowing me away, also the 16gb 4080 doesn't seem much better than the 3090ti which can be got for 800-1000 rn
With more vram
4080 12gb almost matching the 3080 10gb too...
lone pond
@quartz gull are you saying that unless you get a 4090 stick with the 30 series?
quartz gull
Pretty much, used 3090's are about $700 rn, used 3080 10gb about $400-$450 locally for me rn
I would just go used
Nvidia's official graphs have the 4080 only 1/2 the performance for 75% the cost
Apparently the 4080 12GB costs more per frame than the 3080... How do you lose value in a new generation??
quartz gull
Yeah but did you see digital foundries latency review on DLSS 3?
fading glacier
are you aware that this is the first iteration of dlss 3 right?
quartz gull
Nvidia be clowning fr
fading glacier
we have a lot of drivers incoming in the next months
quartz gull
That doesn't excuse them launching a product like this
fading glacier
dlss 1.0 was a flop as well
quartz gull
"I'll fix it" is never going to be a good excuse
fading glacier
dlss 2.3... is a godsend
quartz gull
Yeah and everyone got on them about DLSS 1
fading glacier
not like fix it
but more like, we will upograde it
1 year from now and dlss3 probably will be a great thing
livid idol
DLSS 3.0 isn't a big selling point right now, it's like RT when it was new. It has to be implemented into games and will take a year or more to do so.
fading glacier
so dont jump so early into conclusions about dlss 3
dont fall onto techtubers traps
livid idol
Even the demo games and benchmarks they used aren't publicly available yet
wicked hound
I feel it's okay to complain about pricing, cuz BOM to customer pricing doesnt really add up when compared to Ampere
livid idol
The issue with BOM is Nvidia told the AIBs to prepare for up to 600W power draw, and then late in the game finalized it at 450W.
What's funny is even when you OC it and allow it to use that 600W it still won't because it wants more voltage than Nvidia is allowing
The most Roman got it to was about 500W with a +100 to the core voltage
spiral lodge
that the card i got
odd siren
Interesting, 4090 is voltage limited
So kinda like RDNA 2 was with Navi 21, and I guess Ampere if you took it far enough with XOC iirc*
solemn panther
so is anyone here legit going to buy a 4090?
odd siren
Yes
solemn panther
you?
odd siren
Yes
rustic pulsar
so is anyone here legit going to buy a 4090?
im going to be building an over the top dream pc for graduation in june, 4090(ti?) + 13900K(S?)
also 4k upgrade
solemn panther
Crazy
normal hawk
im going to be building an over the top dream pc for graduation in june, 4090(ti...
Treat yourself
rustic pulsar
Treat yourself
will do... not sure on a monitor, looking for 4k, 27 (up to 29) inch, 90hz, great response time, and most importantly amazing colors and contrast
but ill wait to see what comes out
normal hawk
will do... not sure on a monitor, looking for 4k, 27 (up to 29) inch, 90hz, gre...
if you're getting a 4k monitor get 32" at least.
Lowest would be 28" but its hard to really justify it.
rustic pulsar
way to big for my desk
normal hawk
Nah
rustic pulsar
i sit too close to it
- im going to college soon so its just a bigger thing to transport
normal hawk
Ah fair enough
https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Odyssey-Computer-FreeSync-LS28AG700NNXZA/dp/B096YPN52D/ This is the one I have
I also have the FV43U but thats way too big for your desk for sure. lmao
rustic pulsar
https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Odyssey-Computer-FreeSync-LS28AG700NNXZA/dp/B096Y...
ehh 6.2 contrast on rtings https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-g7-s28ag70
im thinking maybe 1k budget for the monitor
but it 9 months away new styff wull probally be out
normal hawk
Likely nothing small
Most of the new ones that have been announced are ultrawides or 32"+
rustic pulsar
i will consider 32 in but it's not my go to
also i've heard curved is meh for producivity like school work how true is that?
normal hawk
I use a curved ultrawide for work and I have no issues. but a 27" one could probably be weird
rustic pulsar
yeah but 32in curved is good
rustic pulsar
24", 27", 28", 34(UW), 43"
currently looking at samsung G8, pricy but very nice blacks + local dimming
normal hawk
You're spending 1600$ on a gpu, 😛 you should get the most out of it
livid idol
If you're not doing 4k 120hz+ with a 4090 you're wasting it
rustic pulsar
240 for g8?
normal hawk
unless its a write off cause you're a content creator or freelancer
rustic pulsar
Can I write it off as a gamer?
normal hawk
No
rustic pulsar
“I need the computer for school”
livid idol
M32U is a nice choice for 4k high refresh
normal hawk
32" is too big to move for Mr.Woof 😛
dreamy dragonBOT
Dj McBlankey#8598 has been warned
rustic pulsar
bad boy ^
livid idol
Scam link fail
livid idol
The hydra
Good nickname for it
Yeah the new ATX 3.0 units are hard to find still, only a couple are actually available
ivory herald
Should've angled connector like the FE had. I'm surprised we don't also have 90° adapters w/ 40 series.
balmy magnet
Should've angled connector like the FE had. I'm surprised we don't also have 90°...
CableMods is coming out with 90° connector
quartz gull
so is anyone here legit going to buy a 4090?
I probably will, but probably in a month or two tbh
My 3080 getting outdated and bad and old and is junk that needs to be thrown away because 4000 series is totally launched rn
livid idol
Those 90 degree plugs have existed for a while now so all that's changing is the new connector
celest thorn
the hydra adapter they include adds to the already redic size requirements for the cards
my case fits the 4090 nicely till the cable gets added then its like 1mm or so short which is tolerable only cause the cable is bendy and its not enough of a bend im worried about it
livid idol
I've seen some 4090s are doing plugs to the front of the case instead of the glass side
Seems like a no brainer
They're not really any longer just a lot thicker (compared to large 3090s)
odd siren
I'm probably gonna get that wireview from derbaurer if it's not too much cost (180 degree connector it looks like)
I've already ordered a 16 pin tho
livid idol
Yeah that looked pretty cool. He said it's not ready for the public yet but it's ready enough for him to use in videos lol
solemn panther
@celest thorn u got the 4090 
congrats on being the first person to have one in wegg
livid idol
Well... the first that purchased one normally lol
I'm pretty sure there's at least one or two people that got advance samples
odd siren
Only thing stopping me rn is how much it might cost to fix my car's AC
Otherwise I'd have done it this morning lol
livid idol
Ugh I need to replace my compressor
If I pull the part from a junker it's $50 but a reconditioned one is $450, and all plus labor 💀
odd siren
They quoted me 2 grand for a small motor and 10 hours labor
I literally said F- that
I'm looking elsewhere rn
It's just the motor that changes the interior vents for recirculation
Like nothing crazy but a lot of time to access it
livid idol
Oh the mode door? Yeah I've had an issue like that too
odd siren
Or - not actually a lot of time. They were charging me "For a guy to drive 8 hours to source a part"
livid idol
sus
But yeah I had to get my mode door actuator changed because it was stuck and clicking really loudly. After it got fixed I got the clicking again, took it back, and it's the BLEND door this time. fml
odd siren
No option to just wait for the $237 thing to turn up with a delivery
Oh yeah it's that sorta sound
Little motor lasted 5 years
livid idol
It's a GM car isn't it
odd siren
Nah VW
German price 
But I'm not paying executive rates for a chauffeured part - no way
livid idol
Oh well F that and take it to a local import shop
odd siren
But ye that's all that stops me from laying down on 4090 just yet
Ye that's what I'm doing rn
I'm getting quotes from good connections instead
livid idol
Yep good luck on that 4090 then, hopefully by the time that's fixed they're actually in stock lol
odd siren
Oh yeah I have enough time and money for it just waiting to see how apparently bad this part might cost to repair
I'm getting the waterforce which isn't arriving straight away from what I can see - should've moved on by the end of the week
livid idol
odd siren
Yup
livid idol
That was their worst model of 3090, I hope the 4090 is better
odd siren
That was their worst model of 3090, I hope the 4090 is better
It's the only full cover aio 4090 so far apart from I think suprim X
And tbh I've been thinking about suprim X
livid idol
The power limit was the issue before, it was only a dual 8 pin. I'll check the new limit.
odd siren
Power limit isn't an issue this gen, it's now voltage
(Tho ampere had voltage limits too if you gave it enough juice)
livid idol
Right but if they limited it to 375W or something instead of 450W you'd be losing out on about 10% of performance
odd siren
I'm also wondering if I should just go basic tbh, the binning doesn't look like it's doing too much (5-10% max)
Nah they all have a 600W limit afaik
livid idol
That's what I'm looking into
odd siren
Haven't heard of one yet being stuck at 450W
Ah i c
I appreciate it if you find anything, haven't seen a waterforce review yet
livid idol
Because that's exactly what they did for the 3090, it was a 300W limit which was below the official spec
livid idol
I think this is the funniest part of the page, note the lack of p-gm
They don't want them to explode even more I guess
livid idol
It says it comes with a 4x8 to 16 pin adapter so I'd assume it has the 600W max when overclocking
odd siren
I could probably just vbios flash tho if it's low
odd siren
It says it comes with a 4x8 to 16 pin adapter so I'd assume it has the 600W max ...
Ye I'm not too worried, it costs more than aorus master iirc and that has a 666W limit
livid idol
I could probably just vbios flash tho if it's low
That didn't work on the 3090
It was only a dual 8 pin so it couldn't go any higher on the power limit
Even if you flash a triple 8 pin vbios
odd siren
I did that on the TUF tho and yeeted it over 600W with a KP
They all have a 600W single pin so there's a good chance it works
livid idol
That would do it 
odd siren
Ya we should be good fam 
Either way not too worried, I think it'll be alright
It'll def be better than the colourful neptune
That has only a core block, no active vrm or memory cooling
At least, that's what the supplied info shows rn
Anyway back to work 
odd siren
sad to read that you lost your chance the frist day 😦
That's life
I could still buy it now yeah, but just want to see how the car'll turn out first
Car's more important and it's not like a 3090 is just suddenly terrible lol
normal hawk
Car's more important and it's not like a 3090 is just suddenly terrible lol
Nah, didn't you see the benchmarks? 3090 ded
its pointless now. Give me yours and get yourself a 4090. /s
odd siren
Kekw
I'll probably be flipping a full system soon tho when the 4090 comes in, I got enough spare parts, I'll get a decent price for it, or give it to my brother (He's going through stuff so might make a good birthday)
Not the 3090 tho, even if I get the 4090 I'm still gonna use both
fading glacier
I could still buy it now yeah, but just want to see how the car'll turn out firs...
now you just need to find one
imagine the miners using the new 4090s to mine
a new crypto winter icnoming 😛
normal hawk
odd siren
now you just need to find one
Waterforce doesn't drop in Aus until November so I'll be fine lol
livid idol
I wonder if whattomine and nicehash updated for the 4090 stats yet lol
normal hawk
Until another crypto comes goes to proof of work rather than proof of stake
livid idol
random walrus
Few shots from Digital Foundry's DLSS 3 vid
livid idol
Well that's clearly a broken, unreleased feature for a reason
random walrus
Granted the second 2 were during very fast camera movement
But the first one was not and is still losing a ton of detail
Nvidia is using DLSS 3 Frame generation fps numbers for it's gpu comparisons
Granted they do show base rasterization as well but it's less highlighted
livid idol
Even manually setting it to 300W and not changing hash rates you still get negative income
keen nacelle
The way the writer is talking is annoying https://www.notebookcheck.net/Underwhelming-AMD-Radeon-RX-7000-performance-estimate-renders-it-incapable-of-competing-with-Ada-Lovelace-in-rasterization-and-raytracing.661709.0.html
knotty river
What brands have the best graphics cards? I generally go with Asus because I've always loved their products. But I'm looking to see what others have to say.
odd siren
keen nacelle
What brands have the best graphics cards? I generally go with Asus because I've ...
If you're buying 30 series, stay away from ventus, zotac
Whatever that gigabyte dual fan is
Uhh
Most other cards are atleast decent, mostly just depends on the price diff
knotty river
I'm looking for a 3080 and up and preferably a triple fan
knotty river
Got a link?
keen nacelle
Nearly on par with the strix
Not really bc disc is on my phone and the link is on my laptop
Just go to pcpartpicker.com and go to graphics cards, search 3080 and sort by cheapest first
heady turtle
knotty river
I'm not really looking for the cheapest per say just want to get the best deal and best bang for my buck. That is around the 3080
My current pc was a budget pc that I slowly upgraded but now I kinda want to make a beast pc that will allow me play newer games at higher quality without the lag.
heady turtle
Last i looked for the high end category 3080 12gb msi gaming trio was the best value
keen nacelle
I'm not really looking for the cheapest per say just want to get the best deal a...
Gaming z trio is one of the best models
And is 100% the best you'll get for anywhere near that price
fading glacier
z trio is both cheapest and good performer.... best value
asus cards are usually overpriced for what they are
knotty river
I will have to look at home but so far on every site I've looked at I haven't seen one that was in the 700.
fading glacier
lemme check
there is no 3080 on the 700 range, at least new
the cheapest is like 730... a ventus one....
most are 750-800 range
keen nacelle
I will have to look at home but so far on every site I've looked at I haven't se...
My guy
It shows prices from any site that has them available
And will show you the cheapest price
Which would be why both pato and I said to go to pcpartpicker.com
knotty river
Pcpartpicker.com
Ik I was just looking the places I had available. Currently on my phone at work so I just looked at my newegg and Amazon app.
knotty river
Yes but I'm in a bad area for reception I can barely even use discord lol
knotty river
Do you have a search engine on your phone
Holy crap that thing is really only 789.99! How the hell is it so cheap lol
Besides that it's on sale lol
keen nacelle
They've been that cheap for a long time
I've seen the gaming z trio as low as $720
I've seen strix at $800, though that wasn't for long and only once
You could likely fine one sub $600 used pretty easily
knotty river
You could likely fine one sub $600 used pretty easily
Yeah I don't want a used one
Since I can't really be look up stuff rn could you give me an idea of what's different between the specs of a strix 3080 and this one. If not that's fine I can just look into it when I get home.
vital oriole
the differences are very small
it matters next to nothing honestly
it's nothing more than dragging a slider in msi afterburner
keen nacelle
Since I can't really be look up stuff rn could you give me an idea of what's dif...
The strix name
vital oriole
and ofc strix tax
keen nacelle
Aside from that, about 2-3 degrees celsius
knotty river
it matters next to nothing honestly
Can it be over clocked if I wanted to? Mostlikely won't because I haven't need to so far. Just wondering
knotty river
But yeah I might buy it when I get home
keen nacelle
Gpu ocing is very easy and can be fun
Even by being stupid it's near impossible to brick a gpu with basic overclocking
Black screen or cause a restart, sure
keen nacelle
Mhm
vital oriole
My trick to ocing gpu is not run benches
But run games I regularly play
It's easier that way imo
keen nacelle
Yeah, just depends what you're targeting
If you're trying to get it stable for games you play, def much better
vital oriole
ye
keen nacelle
As an oc that's stable in a bench might crash a game on launch
keen nacelle
I've only oced for timespy
Never used it for a game, since the most demanding game I consistently play right now is valorant lol
keen nacelle
Ah
vital oriole
It has ddr3 chips on it
vital oriole
it's 1600 i think
wait no
im running 1100 mhz lmao
pre oc is 900
the vram is woefully slow
vital oriole
kek
keen nacelle
Bc that's obviously how that works
vital oriole
definitely not gonna brick it 
vital oriole
lolol
heady turtle
Can it be over clocked if I wanted to? Mostlikely won't because I haven't need t...
You should it's pretty easy and very beneficial
fading glacier
all of the 4090s on amazon are 3k and up, scalper haven
keen nacelle
I'd still take a used 3080 12gb at $600 over a 4090 at msrp
The performance difference just isn't worth it
fading glacier
and the 4080s are looking terrible by the minute
fading glacier
amd will save the xmas
fading glacier
You still planning on a 4090 ravell?
no
fading glacier
there is a heavy bneck on 1440p, not worth
keen nacelle
It's so good but I just got it like three days ago
fading glacier
and 4080s no no
if amd lineup is just as bad then ill settle on a 3080
and some 13700k system
keen nacelle
Amds new cards look promising looking at leaks
fading glacier
im pretty skeptical rn, nvidia was a heavy letdown for me
heady turtle
I'd still take a used 3080 12gb at $600 over a 4090 at msrp
Well yeah the 4090 is for like 0.01% of the pc gaming population
keen nacelle
7900xt supposedly beats 4080 16gb at 400-450w, has a ton of oc headroom if going with an aib
And is supposed to cost less than 4080 16gb
fading glacier
if thats true then i will have to beat the sclapers
a 7900xt at 1100 will be a godsend
heady turtle
I mean amd tgp doesn't matter cuz you can manually change lol
keen nacelle
Well see what happens
heady turtle
Felix running like a 300w rx 6600
fading glacier
nov 3 will be the reveal, but who knows when will be the launch date
keen nacelle
I'm hoping that if 7000 series is as good as its leaked to be, that nvidia will release the 4080 16gb and 4090 in between card sooner rather than later
And cut prices
keen nacelle
nov 3 will be the reveal, but who knows when will be the launch date
December
knotty river
I've heard some stuff that it would be best to liquid cool it if you want to over clock it. Is that true?
keen nacelle
Dr su confirmed that
keen nacelle
I've heard some stuff that it would be best to liquid cool it if you want to ove...
Yes and no
For casual use, 100% no
Water cooling is also a headache
And almost always not worth it
knotty river
Water cooling is also a headache
Yeah I'm not sure I will
heady turtle
I've heard some stuff that it would be best to liquid cool it if you want to ove...
If you want the best possible one yes but it's never worth it, like 400$ for an extra 3% and a bit cooler temps
And hassle ^
keen nacelle
7000 series looks like it might be worth water cooling, theyre supposed to have insane oc headroom
525w available with a 400w vbios on reference
heady turtle
Ehh just grab a 4 slot cooler kek
keen nacelle
Well see what happens
If an aib puts a 4090 type shroud on a 7900xt that'd be attractive
heady turtle
I had a look on wegg, cant believe all the 4090s are oos lol
knotty river
How big is that msi compared to the strix 3080? Just want to make sure it will fit in the case I plane on getting
fading glacier
I had a look on wegg, cant believe all the 4090s are oos lol
less than 10 minutes
heady turtle
Wow
fading glacier
scalpers got them all
keen nacelle
I wonder if there's any on hardwareswap yet
heady turtle
Probably
I saw a pixel 7 pro already on hwswap uk and i was like?? Then someone said they probably wanted the free watch lol
fading glacier
and they will have an even harder time when they aim at the 4080s
with all the bad reviews on them
keen nacelle
Scalpers are hilarious
keen nacelle
Being generous with that one
fading glacier
the funny thing is.... restock will happen in some days.... will they buy them all again?
knotty river
What case you planning on?
I plan on getting one of the phanteks eclipse. I think it's like 5000a or something I would have to look. I want to vertical mount it
keen nacelle
P500a digital
heady turtle
P500a is nice yeah
keen nacelle
Vertical mount does get worse Temps, just so you know
heady turtle
Can top mount your 360mm aio for the cpu which is always nice
heady turtle
And more expensive cuz you needa fork out 100$ or so for a pcie riser
keen nacelle
Ye
knotty river
P500a digital
Yeah I just want something that has good air flow, alot of room, enough room for cable management, and be able to vertically mount the gpu
heady turtle
I honestly can't understand the appeal, worse temps -> louder fans -> more money all just to see the fans??
heady turtle
Or 5000d non airflow and getting the airflow panel from corsair for free
keen nacelle
Ye
knotty river
5000d airflow also worth a look at
It might be that one I'm not sure
I posted it in build chat I think yesterday
heady turtle
5000d is from Corsair
knotty river
5000d is from Corsair
So that was one of them but I think I posted a phanteks aswell
keen nacelle
P500a
keen nacelle
Feed it 12 volts
random walrus
I honestly can't understand the appeal, worse temps -> louder fans -> more money...
it's often used in itx builds that can be made smaller with the gpu mounted vertical. Other than that yeah it's not the most practical
heady turtle
That's not a real vert mount tho that basically just slaps it against an intake/exhaust
formal garden
Is a gforce etc 2060 a good gpu??
keen nacelle
depends on how much it costs
formal garden
I got a prebuild omen 25L with a gforce rtx 2060, i7 107000 8bit processor I think it’s a 8 bit I’m not sure @keen nacelle
ivory herald
Yes, and cpus have been "64bit" for a decade.
livid idol
Almost 2 decades now, first 64 bit cpu was 2003
ivory herald
Ah right, amd 64 & such. Forgot I just didn't both with "64 bit" until Win7, which was way later than most people
livid idol
XP had 64 bit too you know
ivory herald
Was just irrelevant when I only had 2 or 4GB of ram & not randomly reinstall windows just for 64bit. The nostalgia though. Started w/ XP & used for 5 years or so.
livid idol
Yep. 7 was really about the time 64 bit got really relevant.
DDR2 was finally getting big enough to have 4gb
DDR3 was just launching
ivory herald
Yea, I think my E8400 rig is 4x2GB for instance. Good times.
late ferry
is DLSS 3 great so far? or is it bad visually because of the whole AI thing?
i was to play a game
i would play it with DLSS on Quality mode
no more than that
ivory herald
Right, the thing on pretty much only the 4090 so far. 🤷♂️ yes, it's got extra latency and other quirks
livid idol
It's good in slow paced games like flight sim it seems but faster games and lower fps games the fake frames are very noticeable
late ferry
The frame gen still has issues with artifacts
will it be fixed with an update? or will it be fixed in the 5000 series?
livid idol
This is all pre-release testing anyway
livid idol
Nothing released has 3.0 yet
late ferry
It's good in slow paced games like flight sim it seems but faster games and lowe...
yeah so i just saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PrwChz1XeA now with this video, i see no difference, between DLSS 3 Quality and Native, however, its a video, so i am not sure, but its pretty impressive how the FPS just doubles
late ferry
It's gonna be fixed in an update of course
awesome, thank you
livid idol
It's hard to translate 120 fps into a 30 or 60 fps youtube video while still showing detail
late ferry
yeah, thats why i dont know tbh
i would have to see it for myself
when playing Spider-Man with DLSS 2 on Quality, honestly i couldnt tell a difference
or the difference is so small that it wont bother me
with DLSS 3 however, me having over 100 FPS with RT Enabled to the max, that is pretty impressive imo, and thats why i want to get a 4090
vital oriole
yeah, it's nice
late ferry
yeah, it's nice
do you think we should be getting around the same performance with Miles Morales as Spider-Man with the 4090? because with Miles Morales, it does have RT Reflections like Spider-Man Remastered, but they added something new called RT Shadows
vital oriole
idk tbh
but possibly with how dlss 3 generates frames
only problem so far is the artifacts on pre release tests
late ferry
but possibly with how dlss 3 generates frames
awesome
late ferry
only problem so far is the artifacts on pre release tests
i am hoping that gets fixed very soon
vital oriole
it will, just needs time
livid idol
Another issue related to the artifacting that might not be fixable based on how it works is the UI itself is also AI rendered, which can lead to weird flickering and late changes in UI (by one frame but still late)
late ferry
Another issue related to the artifacting that might not be fixable based on how ...
and that cant get fixed?
livid idol
They'd have to find a way to separate the UI rendering and the rest of the game
vital oriole
So it just takes the whole scene on the screen
And generates new frames
Ah that's kinda oof
late ferry
And generates new frames
yeah thats what i know from DLSS 3
livid idol
It's not so noticeable at 100 fps+ but still a problem
livid idol
You can notice in stills like that a bit of fuzziness around objects, which again isn't too bad at high fps
late ferry
You can notice in stills like that a bit of fuzziness around objects, which agai...
yeah i mean in that video i sent you, he is getting over 120fps
even going to 150 fps
which is amazing imo
livid idol
That'll improve over time also
late ferry
That'll improve over time also
and even get more fps?
livid idol
Not more fps but better rendering of the AI frames
vital oriole
the fps won't increase, but the frames generated will look better
late ferry
oh yeah thats cool then
i mean its AI, so its always learning you know
so im sure overtime it will get clearer and better
late ferry
yeah i play games like Spider-Man, God Of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, mostly playstation exclusives but on PC 😂
but yeah anyways, i saw videos with the 4090, they all get over 100 fps
which is pretty impressive
late ferry
i did want to ask, when turning DLSS on, it says Upscale Sharpness, do i have that on the default 5? or 0?
late ferry
100 fps at 4k no less
yup, which is something i couldnt even imagine 2 years ago
those big games getting over 100 fps in 4k with max graphics?
that is awesome
livid idol
i did want to ask, when turning DLSS on, it says Upscale Sharpness, do i have th...
That's preference, whether you like it sharper or smoother
late ferry
That's preference, whether you like it sharper or smoother
i mean, i want to make it look as if im in native 4k
livid idol
I'd leave it at default if you have no strong opinion on sharpness
late ferry
yeah i just want it to look normal
late ferry
I'd leave it at default if you have no strong opinion on sharpness
i cant wait to see how Uncharted 4 looks and performs with the 4090
toxic umbra
so im sure overtime it will get clearer and better
Yeah I fly MSFS and DLSS is at best "meh". Looks great on the scenery side, but I fly airliners and DLSS makes the aircraft displays look like trash
late ferry
That's preference, whether you like it sharper or smoother
did Cyberpunk 2077 get an update for DLSS 3 yet?
quartz gull
$400 for a 3080 12GB a decent price if selling to a close friend?
late ferry
Nothing has it
damn
anyone know if the 4090 will fit in a Lian Li O11D case? i am planning on getting the MSI SUPRIM X, i currently also have the MSI SUPRIM RTX 3080, so im wondering if they are the same size or
keen nacelle
anyone from newegg when the strix 4090 going to be restock ?
very rarely
late ferry
very rarely
so the 4090 will be sold out everywhere like the 3000 series? 😦
spiral lodge
i bit better but stock still suck for the strix
was preorder for pny on newegg
4090
sold out in sec
late ferry
but at the moment the stock isn't great
im sure in 2-3 weeks it will be good no?
late ferry
alright sorry
late ferry
sorry i didn't mean to be rude with that
no its fine, no need to be sorry, i do hope those gpu's are back in stock because i live in Egypt, and basically for GPU's, they make you pay double the price, so im thinking of importing instead, thats why i was asking
knotty river
Whats the cable called to be able to vertically mount my gpu?
normal hawk
PCIE Riser @knotty river
knotty river
PCIE Riser <@329463470703771648>
This might be a dumb question but does every board support this?
humble herald
Depending on the board and it's PCI
knotty river
solar warren
If you were to upgrade from a 2080ti, what would you upgrade to or would you upgrade at all?
cerulean rover
I'd wait to see the rest of the 40xx lineup
fading glacier
or at least wait for the amd lineup
2080ti is still a solid gpu for today's standards
solar warren
Yeah, the 4090 looks like a monster. I may just wait a year, save up, and upgrade my whole system… or just buy/build a second system. What I have now is solid.
solar warren
or at least wait for the amd lineup
True that. I just watched a vid on the Ryzen 7000 series. Looks really good, especially for price point.
fading glacier
4090 is a monster, but only worth if you are planning to play on 4k 165hz
solar warren
With my next build, I’m going to pay more attention to limiting throttling (between GPU and cpu). 2080ti and 3900x comes with a 10%+ bottleneck.
fading glacier
if not, then its a waste of money
4090 is heavily bottlenecked on 1440p and below even on the most modern cpus
solar warren
4090 is a monster, but only worth if you are planning to play on 4k 165hz
I mainly play on 1080p at 240hz, but I have a 4K monitor that I play “slower” games on, like HOI4 and Civ.
fading glacier
then not worth at all for you
you will use it like at 20 or 30% of their capacity
solar warren
That’s why I said I’d probably wait for a year. Let prices go down.
fading glacier
i planned to buy a 4090 for myself but i play mainly at 1440p 165hz, and then saw the benchamrks... heavy heavy bneck....
not going to spend 1600 when a card below 1k can give me almost the same performance at 1440p
so now im waiting for amd 7900xt
solar warren
I am mainly concerned about power consumption. Let me know if I am wrong here, but whenever I turn in my pc and have my overhead light on, the light flickers down to lower power and stays there until I put pc to sleep. Or, it’ll flicker until I push down the light bar to dim it manually.
Would a GPU with higher power consumption or a pc build with higher consumption, affect the appliances around me? Am I just getting that confused with power consumption relating to the max wattage allowed by the PSU?
keen nacelle
With my next build, I’m going to pay more attention to limiting throttling (betw...
Not really, 3900x is fine for even a 3090 at 1440p
Bottle neck calculators are useless
wicked hound
Not really, 3900x is fine for even a 3090 at 1440p
Lows are a bit concerning for a 3090 tbf. Averages are usually fine tho.
knotty river
@keen nacelle Well i just order that MSI that you sent
ivory herald
I mainly play on 1080p at 240hz, but I have a 4K monitor that I play “slower” ga...
Keep an eye on deal for 5800x3d or such, and soon enough we can see how the 4080 models do. Efficiency alone is part of why I'm skipping 30 series I think, although we'll see.
quartz gull
will newegg be doing shuffle for 4090 for the next drop do you think?
fading glacier
<@367090380426182666> i might change to suprim liquid
suprim master race
preorders hahahaha
odd siren
Lots of msi doing well on ambient
fading glacier
yup, saw those bmarks as well
odd siren
fading glacier
the suprim looks supreme for the price
odd siren
Does tbh
odd siren
- 750W W1
mighty hornet
4090+mobo or ram? Not a bad deal if you get a card for msrp…. Still sad that they are oss like last time.
vital oriole
they'll be restocked pretty soon anyway
it's not the shortage situation
just people buying up so quickly shipments can't come on time, that's all
fading glacier
"people"
but yeah, restocks should be pretty soon
dont think scalpers will have a good time trying to sell these cards this time
like... who's gonna pay 5k for a 4090 strix?
you can buy a pretty nice car with that much money
odd siren
@livid idol Gaming OC has a 600W vbios out of the box
I'm becoming seriously tempted for suprim liquid tho, best looking aib so far
Only 530W vbios but amongst the fastest ambient it looks like
It doesn't use a full cover like I thought tho, only core and memory and the rest has an active fan, so not bad
fading glacier
but no full coverage as the waterforce
odd siren
Yeah
But if it's the usual fastest then it's good enough
Suprim air cooled seems to be just as good too with a 520W limit
Need more reviews, NEED WATERFORCE REVIEWS (reeeee)
fading glacier
odd siren
And it's cheaper
26+4 x 70A vs 24+4 x 70A
Over 20+3 x 70A
Zotac 24+4 x50A
That's still big but less than founders
Plait 16+3x 50A 
fading glacier
fading glacier
suprim is the way ma friend
odd siren
Yeah I'm feeling it now ngl, lemme check the giggly bits
odd siren
Is fine
fading glacier
depending on the reviews im more inclined for a 7900xt rn
not planning on 4k anytime soon
odd siren
Gaming OC 20+3 x50A
odd siren
That's still kinda overkill
Aorus master 24+4x 50A by the looks of it
Idk what the chips are but it looks like 24+4 *EDIT: There's still some extra spaces on the PCB not filled, I'm guessing this would be what the waterforce gets
I mean
MSI has had this overkill vrm thing going for a while now
Colorful 24+4 x 55A
So I'm guessing the neptune might be better *EDIT: Only if they upgrade the DrMOS, PCB looks full
odd siren
I have access to any of these btw I'm not worried about stock
fading glacier
what a chad
odd siren
Genuinely thinking suprim or suprim x now, but the waterforce could still be better
Air cooled suprim has a 550W vbios
So higher than liquid x
I also just remembered this is an MSI aio lmao
Potential yike
Galax 22 phase 
*EDIT: idk how many core or mem yet - that's the total apparently
keen oxide
There's 6 available RTX 4090 in Ottawa Merivale Canada Computers 👀
odd siren
Did a bit more digging, the Palit by far looks the weakest
Suprim X(/Liquid) strongest so far
livid idol
<@396513761550270464> Gaming OC has a 600W vbios out of the box
It won't use it all, they're voltage limited and locked by Nvidia
valid citrus
I have 2 monitors one with 4k 60hz (not gonna use for gaming) 1080p 144hz (going to use for gaming) then can I still run this setup with radeon rx 6600?
keen nacelle
Yes
hot bough
Got it. Was confused because above in the chat people were talking about different power limits.
Already ordered the Fractal case, just waiting on my Aorus darlin to be MSRP before I buy.
fading glacier
those are vbios
all of them draw from 400 to 600w depending on the vbios on the card
fading glacier
techpowerup should have it on their database already
hot bough
Also, I heard OC is basically non existent on 40xx is this true?
fading glacier
4090 was released 2 days ago, we know as much as you know
hot bough
Probably more then me tbh. Been working like a office worker in an anime for like 3 days.
fading glacier
regarding to oc, yes, seems like the cards are heavily limited by nvidia itself
enthusiasts will find a way regardless
hot bough
Through like shunt mods right?
fading glacier
maybe, maybe thru custom vbios
hot bough
Ahh kk.
Well whatever the case even if it's next to no OC, the 4090 is already a monstrosity so probably no need tbh.
keen nacelle
Ask forks
hot bough
Okay, I just had a really weird thought. Has anyone made GPU blocks that look like art?
Like for example, wrapping a city around a air cooled or liquid cooled block.
fading glacier
🤨
hot bough
Hmm, I think I am gonna have an interesting time painting my Fractal Case later on.
fading glacier
dont do drugs kiddo
hot bough
?
That's a strange thing to say all of a sudden.
But don't worry I am very anti-drug unless it's for medicinal use.
fading glacier
wicked hound
Most 4090s have a 550w - 600w board PL, but get VLed at like 450w - 500w on average. Insanely difficult to vBIOS mod VLs for majority of people and only "easy" way to get VL control is by hooking up an external device to the VRM PWM controller.
hot bough
What GPU bracket would you guys recommend I use?
fading glacier
Most 4090s have a 550w - 600w board PL, but get VLed at like 450w - 500w on aver...
that was quite educative indeed 
hot bough
Most 4090s have a 550w - 600w board PL, but get VLed at like 450w - 500w on aver...
Thank you for the knowledge.
wicked hound
Could be a bit off cuz not huge amt of testing yet, could maybe see some "nice" scaling (for enthusiasts, so not useless scaling) past 500w. Ive only managed to see a few benchmarks testing PLs/VLs, and benchmarks are easier to get VLed then games.
hot bough
I see.
quartz gull
So Nvidia cancelled the 4080 12GB lol
Probably will launch at as a 4070 or 4070ti then
fading glacier
too many hate on the "4080 12gb"
quartz gull
They're literally getting rid of the entire sku
Even Nvidia realized it was a bad idea, hate justified I guess?
fading glacier
bad idea only in the naming
quartz gull
They'll probably launch the chip at a 4070ti or similar
fading glacier
They'll probably launch the chip at a 4070ti or similar
nvidia is holding the TI sku until later date.... it will probably resurface as a plain 4070
and the gap in between will be for the ti variant
quartz gull
You do realize there's a 100% chance Nvidia already has 4070 specced out and created, unless they move that down the stack as well
These things take months
fading glacier
an 8gb 4070 will have a bad reception anyway... so probably the 8gb vriant will be the 4060
dont think they will fall into the same trap twice, they cant fool the consumers anymore
and the 10gb variant could end as a 4060ti
just my opinion 😛
solemn panther
odd siren
It won't use it all, they're voltage limited and locked by Nvidia
Ya but we can shelve the worries about the skus being power limited too much now lol
whole nacelle
I hope this is the right place to post this! I have a nvidia geforce gtx 760, I know it's about 10 years old. Looking to upgrade. Kinda wanna stay below the $250 mark. Any recommendations? Also, should I wait till Cyber week? I am a professional photographer and do a lot of photoshop editing, some gaming, and some video editing. I also run 3 screens, so that is very important. thank you so much for the help...
fading glacier
if you are a professional photographer, make a lot of photoshop editing and video editing, then you should think on a bigger budget for your gpu
below 250 is pretty tight for all that amount of work
at least new
whole nacelle
if you are a professional photographer, make a lot of photoshop editing and vide...
I have been a photographer for 30 years, and my graphics card has always been enough...it actually works great, but one of my screens blacks out and flickers every now and then, so, i am thinking it's time to change it out.
It doesnt ghave to be super fast or super powerful, just enough to run it and do three screens
Well, fast is good...lol
fading glacier
not meant to sound rude if that was your impression of me 😦 im very sorry if you took it that way, but there are almost no cards at that budget level sold as new
you can try looking for some 1070s or 1080s or even 2060s in the used market
those can be found below 200 pretty often
whole nacelle
Really? Dang - I actually havent really looked. I was reading old post, it looked like the 970 was pretty good, but no clue if you acn still buy em
fading glacier
not new anymore
whole nacelle
Gotcha
Question - is a low end NEW one better than an higher end used one?
What is a cheap new one run? LOL
rustic pulsar
it would depend on the specific GPUs
whole nacelle
Gotcha
fading glacier
most of the time yes, you can check the pins on this channel
for a rough chart comparison of modern gpus
rustic pulsar
also passmark gpu comparison is good, DO NOT use userbenchmark
rustic pulsar
thats a cpu
whole nacelle
Sory -
fading glacier
your card is on the bottom right corner
whole nacelle
Is that chart just a timeline of the cards?
Trying to figure out what it's telling me
So the RTX 3050 is the lowest end, but newest generation
odd siren
Generation and also relative performance
whole nacelle
But the 3050 really doesnt perform much better than the older generation 980 ti
odd siren
Used 1080 sounds like probably a decent idea
odd siren
Tho what psu do you have? And cpu
whole nacelle
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600 CPU @ 3.30GHz 3.30 GHz
odd siren
And the psu?
whole nacelle
Im not sure what a PSU is...sorry
odd siren
Power supply
whole nacelle
or 1500, I changed it out awhile back
odd siren
1500 watts??
whole nacelle
yep
odd siren
Did someone give you advice for that
1500 would power probably 3, 4 or more of your current PC is all lol
Either way that's more than enough to pick any gpu
whole nacelle
I built this PC... But it was a LONG time ago, and I have fallen out of date.
odd siren
All good, if it works fine for you it's not a problem tbh
Used 1080 sounds like a good idea to me
Or maybe 2070
whole nacelle
Cool...
Thank you
Last question - probaby not...
Does the brand make a difference?
I know on my Hard drives, it made a huge difference
odd siren
Specific model can matter yes but worry more about making sure the seller is genuine
Like, a lot of reviews on their stuff, reasonable (not terribly low) asking price etc
whole nacelle
If I am getting a used one through NEwEgg, I am assuming it's on consignment through them and they have checked them out
odd siren
I'm not sure, I'm not in the US so I don't typically use newegg lol
odd siren
Np
whole nacelle
your card is on the bottom right corner
Thanks for all the help... That chart will help a lot
fading glacier
👍
keen nacelle
Gotcha
You could likely find a 3060 used for $250
Which is great for video editing
Or 2060 12gb
wicked hound
Kekw
https://videocardz.com/newz/galax-philippines-displays-a-box-for-geforce-rt...
Fake news, was a 4080 4GB
wicked hound
Anyways, compiled more data from online. Very glad to see 4080-12 going. Using best case scenario perf percentages we had a 4060Ti Super, 4080, and 4080Ti (61%/77% of 4090, and 4090 is 95% of 4090Ti). Worst case results were 4060Ti, 4070, and 4080Ti (58%/71% of 4090, and 4090 is 90% of 4090Ti). Here's to hoping it'll be under best case scenario, but I doubt it.
odd siren
It's been said they could be working on a 99% die config for 4090 Ti
So not titan @800W, but Ti with 18168(?) And still 600W
I mean, they always had this plan but now there's numbers emerging
wicked hound
Tests: Plagues Tale, Spider Man, Overwatch, Resident Evil, Assassin's Creed, The Division 2, Warhammer, Maya, Vray, Octane Renderer, Portal RTX, Racer RTX, Cyberpunk
solemn panther
when you have the official fully refined list, I'll pin it @wicked hound
wicked hound
Fully refined will be a long time as I'd need to know how 4090 compares to 4090Ti
But at least 4080-16 data should be here soon-ish
solemn panther
a second list can be made for the one containing the 4090ti
wicked hound
That data was only really made for this datasheet. This is IMO the important one. The one above is kinda useless by itself.
Best case scenario values are being used for that
random walrus
Y'all think the unlaunched 4080 12gb will become a 4070 or a 4070ti?
wicked hound
Nvidia will disappoint me and make it a 4070Ti Super Ultra Deluxe
random walrus
(without dropping the price of course)
solemn panther
I bet
fading glacier
well they cant release a 900usd 4070
they will severely cripple that card to fit into 700usd bracket
cerulean rover
well they can
odd siren
They can and they still might
Given the apparent costs
Anything lower will likely get a different name/config/die
wicked hound
They have a $1200 "4080 non Ti" and $1600 "4090", I dont think they care about $900 "4070" looking bad
All depends on how competitive AMD is
odd siren
Soon 1350 4080 ti
livid idol
I bet all the AIBs are loving having to redo ALL of their already made GPUs and software so it doesn't say "4080 12GB" any more
odd siren
Maybe they unbirthed the 4070 cos of ampere supply
charred raft
4070 ti super dlux edition
OR
Anyone expect a 4075 ?
I think the last one like that was the GTX 745? Right?
random walrus
Anyone expect a 4075 ?
Nah, they trying to simplify/streamline
normal hawk
Yes
ivory herald
wicked hound
Eighth unlaunched post
fading glacier
imagine the amount of 4080s 12gb on aib hands and suddenly those are cancelled
nice move nvidia
way to screw your partners 😛 evga went off the boat at the right time
keen nacelle
Eighth unlaunched post
Mb
fading glacier
proper laurel
I'm looking into upgrading my graphics card. I have a gigabyte GeForce gtx 970.. I'm pretty sure anything I pick would really be an upgrade, but I wanted to hear other people's opinion on which graphics cards would realistically be the better option for me. Anybody willing to give me their input?
celest thorn
what resolution you gonna play at?
rustic pulsar
I'm looking into upgrading my graphics card. I have a gigabyte GeForce gtx 970.....
^, also what games and whats ur budget
proper laurel
I would like to play at 4k, but my current monitor is at 1440p. I play games like cyberpunk 2077, RE8, and other multiplayer games like ff14, phasmophobia. There are a lot of games I want to play. As for my budget, I'd say it's pretty flexible, anywhere from 200-800 on average.
rustic pulsar
could probally get a 3080 12gb in u want something now, or wait a bit for 4000 series stock
vital oriole
there's no 40 series for that money
rustic pulsar
yep i havnt learned the prices yet lol
vital oriole
would get amd stuff, or a 3080 10/12 gigs
normal hawk
6900xt for <700$
proper laurel
aren't there a lot of issues with the 4000 series currently? Something else, are there curtain compatibility issues with the 3000 series cards and older motherboards?
vital oriole
no
not at all
it's just expensive, that's it
it doesn't have any problems other than price
celest thorn
well maybe if its rather old maybe?
vital oriole
ofc you'd have issues like pcie interface bandwidth bottleneck
celest thorn
mostly thinking PCIE bandwith
vital oriole
if you run it with pcie 2.0
which is very old
last stuff with 2.0 was like sandy bridge age
2010
cpu would have a hard time catching up to the gpu anyway
proper laurel
I have pcie 3.0
odd siren
aren't there a lot of issues with the 4000 series currently? Something else, are...
Certain X670 boards just won't boot with 4090's rn
But that's really it
And you shouldn't really be buying X670 rn anyway
odd siren
I think 30 series had that sort of issue too
proper laurel
Hm. So would the 3000 series be the best option for me then?
odd siren
For 200-800 yeah or RDNA 2
If you're only gaming RDNA 2 over 3000 usually
To get a proper 4K experience tho you want a lot more than 800 imo
1440p would be great for a 3080 12gb and CP2077
You'll also want a new psu probably
Depends on the psu and cpu you have rn (guessing with a 970 it'll be getting on a bit at this point)
normal hawk
Does that need more than 750w? o.O
Can't remember the recommended psu for the 6900xt
its either 750w or 850w lol
proper laurel
A quick google search says 450-750 watt psu is best for a 6900xt
speaking of the 6000 series, what are the major difference between rx6600 and rx6900?
celest thorn
🤔 many fps
proper laurel
Just higher fps?
celest thorn
ya by a large bit
odd siren
It's dependent on the cpu
celest thorn
kinda the main diff between any video cards higher tier= higher price, higher performance, more power draw
odd siren
Like if you're running a 7700K for example I'd suggest a 750W most likely
celest thorn
so long as your cpu is not bottlenecking your system
odd siren
Ye this will be something to watch for
proper laurel
To someone who doesn't care about extremely high frame rate, would it still be worth the price difference between the 6600 and the 6900?
celest thorn
ye at that res you would be sub 60fps depending on cpu and would get lots of stuttering on some games
on the 6600
unless you were on med-low graphics settings
the 6600 is more a 1080p res card
proper laurel
I have a intel core i5-8600k cpu 3.60hz 6 core.
proper laurel
750 watt 50 plus bronze modular isn't good enough? XD
celest thorn
well its more a brand issue
if its a major brand like seasonic, evga, corsair ect its fine but if you went with dodgey cheapo budget saver brand it might not be so great if its older
lone pond
odd siren
I have a intel core i5-8600k cpu 3.60hz 6 core.
You'd be fine at 1440p I'm pretty sure
odd siren
if its a major brand like seasonic, evga, corsair ect its fine but if you went w...
Corsair, evga and seasonic all have their own psu bombs that exist in the wild, each model is different
odd siren
750 watt 50 plus bronze modular isn't good enough? XD
Which psu specifically? If we had a model number I could check if you're fine
celest thorn
well ya but in general
they would be more likely to not have many models that are crap
over those no name generic psu models by ???
odd siren
Uh, maybe corsair, definitely not the other two
Evga has a good 5 or more off the top of my head that are simply a do not touch
celest thorn
corsair just rebranded seasonic psus for a while
idk if they still do but they might
odd siren
Thank LTT for that quote
Everyone still thinks they do lol
Seasonic has quite a few you should avoid too.
Have a look at this list, it's collated extensively from a lot of reviews and experience. You'll find yourself unlikely to find a better source on the net these days for what defines a good quality unit
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
They measure everything from ripple, to safety to regulation etc. Across a lot of sources which is then filtered into this list
proper laurel
I would have to power down my pc and open up the shroud to get the serial number. I'll do that later.
What's the difference between the swft 319 and the merc 319?
Oh, okay. Thank you.
misty wagon
I want the yeston waifu card so bad. The 6700xt one but newegg has no reviews
hot bough
I wanna see a Cyberpunk anime or game style themed GPU and case so bad....
vital oriole
there's close enough with asus eva stuff
hot bough
The Strix is the closest I could find but with their price tag no way am I paying that.
Does the Strix Non-OC have the same or extremely similar performance to the Gigabyte Aorus Master?
Because the two cost the same at 1799.
Nvm, I misread.
fading glacier
but, you are going to water block the card anyway, so you should check the vrms on the cards instead of how they look 😛
you can cyberpunk-pimp the waterblock later
vital oriole
^
hasty sphinx
but, you are going to water block the card anyway, so you should check the vrms ...
Where would I go to find a good waterblock?
livid idol
Probably overpriced tho
You'd be surprised. It's usually one of the cheapest.
heady turtle
Usually it comes out as "cheapest" by being like 500$ and a 150$ wegg giftcard but the big question depends on if they'll use it
livid idol
Sell it 🤷♂️
heady turtle
I guess
heady turtle
Uwu
fading glacier
👀
normal hawk
Gimme the 4050 plz
heady turtle
Gimme the 4050 plz
i wonder how many fines nv is gonna try slap them with for accidentally doing that
normal hawk
i wonder how many fines nv is gonna try slap them with for accidentally doing th...
Lol. plenty probably
livid idol
Are their custom boxes under NDA though? Hard to know without seeing one of the NDAs
I've heard reports from at least 2 AIBs that Nvidia is compensating them for the "3080 12GB" boxes that they have to remake now. But not the re-stickering, re-flashing vbios, or the labor required for all of that.
Cue the collective sigh of relief from EVGA staff that they don't have to deal with that total BS. Because on top of all that they have to sell it for cheaper and can't sell before the end of the year now.
heady turtle
except for the ones that had to get fired
livid idol
Do we have an estimate on how many had to get laid off? Their official word was no one was getting canned but they expected a lot to quit.
livid idol
Common sense says that yes but they were adamant that they weren't doing layoffs
heady turtle
I call bs imo they're just spreading the workload out v thin or something
Or scrambling to make new roles
livid idol
I'd hate to be the gpu airflow engineer that has no work now but idk
heady turtle
You can go work for the aio division?
livid idol
Yeah they're probably reassigning the people that have transferrable skills
heady turtle
But they said that's negligible in their profit margin iirc
livid idol
I wouldn't be surprised if after the shuffling they started making even more money from having extra hands in the divisions that actually make money like PSUs
lone pond
Man
I replaced my 1080fe recently with a 6800xt
This thing is a beast, I'm really happy with it
I play elden ring a lot (which is capped at 60fps)
My 1080 averaged 170-180w (which is the full tdp) running elden ring at 1080p mid and still dropped frames a lot
This 6800xt is averaging 110-115w on 1440p max settings and I've yet to see any frame drops at all from it. And it's like a 300w card, so it's got tons of headroom still. Could probably do 4k ultra or max with no issues if I had a 4k display
Sorry, I'm just really happy with this upgrade and wanted to tell somebody
livid idol
Yep that's a pretty significant boost. Gratz
lone pond
Thanks.
I just don't know any PC enthusiasts irl and wanted to share this with somebody
livid idol
You're in the right place for that then 😄
hot bough
Yup.
gray bloom
would 12600k bottleneck a 3090?
hot bough
would 12600k bottleneck a 3090?
I'd still double check with Bacca, Fal'Cie, or Pato, however as far as I know I don't think there would be any bottlenecks.
gray bloom
thinking of changing my build to that combo
hot bough
Overall it's a solid CPU.
hot bough
thinking of changing my build to that combo
Why not wait for the 13600K coming out in 5 days?
keen nacelle
I'd still double check with Bacca, Fal'Cie, or Pato, however as far as I know I ...
no it would not
12100f barely bottlenecks a 3090 at 1440p
hot bough
My, how far CPUs have come along.
fervent sedge
not sure a 4 core chip with a 3090 is the most well rounded combo imaginable but it is impressive how fast even cheaper cpus are these days
keen nacelle
not sure a 4 core chip with a 3090 is the most well rounded combo imaginable but...
i wouldn't recc it
but it is fine
fervent sedge
i wonder how many people have that weird combo
probably someone out there with a 7700k
livid idol
My, how far CPUs have come along.
4090 is shifting the field, even the 7700X is having trouble with it at 1440p.
keen nacelle
5800x3d tho
livid idol
Yeah and 7800X3D coming Q1
ivory gale
Basically it’s a big step up for esports and streamers as well because besides game engine limitations you can play at 360 hz on 1080 p or 1440 p, or 500 hz 1080 p soon. Stream with av1 encoding , also record . In whatever resolution and fps you want upscaled. And , not feel a performance impact that will hurt your gameplay even for top level players in tournament’s and stuff
Of course that’s a lesser application then the standard 4k uses
But it’s still cool
End result is higher quality, smoother , and better gameplay for viewers to
fading glacier
i wonder how many people have that weird combo
had once a 4770 paired with a 3060ti
no bottleneck at all 
odd siren
@fading glacier ima go suprim but which one doe
I'm thinking air cos best bin but also no chance of aio blockage
fading glacier
yeah get the air one and put a block then later on