archived-urp

[lost basalt]

and yes the package I sent is a "grabpass" allowing you to do the same type of things you were able to do in built-in rp

[vague gale]

Hi, lens flares are not working in URP ? no idea what i am missing ... 2021.3.25 URP 12.1.11

ahhh it does

only in game view ok 😄

[normal orbit]

so as it turns out unlit turn off emission... ok need to add to the color output i guess

[scarlet lava]

hey , I have some issue that I cant explain what is that ???

so I have a material for the tower and another for the window frame ( both share the same shader )

for some reason the window flickers on the tower and only the tower!!! .. i added the same material on tower on a sphere and a cube and tried to get the same window to flicker on sphere or the cube but it didnt !!

does anyone have any clue what the f is going on ? :S ... why the same equation behaves differently from one shape to another o.O ? its like 1+1 =2 on sunday but its 5 on monday o.O

I dont even know how to debug this !! o.O

[marble vigil]

Looks like your whole castle's material is Transparent
If so, make it Opaque

If you have a surface that needs to be semi-transparent like glass, give it its own material slot (or "submesh") and make only that Transparent

[scarlet lava]

the problem is the castle and the windows are supposed to appear in the middle of nowhere so yes both are transparent and yes the windows are not supposed to look like that , i was trying to make a solid black frame color but to also make it appear at a certain point.

both has thoes tags
Tags {"RenderType" = "Transparent" "Queue" = "Transparent"}

if I switch to { "RenderType" = "Opaque" "Queue" = "Geometry-1" } they never disappear

[marble vigil]

Geometry is seen "through itself" when transparent
It's a fundamental limitation of transparency

That's why you don't really see games doing any fading effects like that

They either use opaque dissolves or opaque dither patterns (often smoothed with TAA)

[scarlet lava]

wait opaque dissolves? how would that work without alpha ?

[marble vigil]

Your options are to 1. place the polygons in such an arraignment that they never get a chance to flicker like that, which requires specific camera angle and specific vertex winding order 2. use an empty pass to clear all transparency behind the castle surface, with the side effect of clearing all transparency behind the castle 3. find an order-independent transparency shader solution, which games don't normally use due to the expense 4. deal with the flickering during the fading effect, since you'll swap the shader to opaque when it's done it might not be too bad, which is what a lot of older games used to do

[marble vigil]

Opaque with alpha clipping doesn't require transparency

It's what the dithering techniques use also

[scarlet lava]

could u give me an example ?
i dont understand how would that work ?
something like that ?
clip(color.a );
return color;

[marble vigil]

The supported way to do it with URP is to enable alpha clipping on the material or on the Shader Graph
If you have to write shaders by hand for some reason, you can also view a compiled SG shader to see how it does it

[scarlet lava]

oh yea in writting shader by code , its more optimized and more flexable at least that is what chatgpt said 😄

[marble vigil]

Chatbots make stuff up, just like this
The only reason to not use Shader Graph with scriptable render pipelines is if you need to make something it cannot do

[scarlet lava]

interesting ok

[scarlet lava]

but yea looks like alpha clipping is jusr `clip( alpha); ... alpha can be the output from any function

[scarlet lava]

@marble vigil thanks so much btw ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[marble vigil]

So as I understand grabpass gets what's rendered "so far at that time" regardless of when and lets you use that, is that how it works?
While this "URP grabpass" implementation seems to be just an extra buffer after transparents so you can distort those too

[lost basalt]

dither

[lost basalt]

you can select when to inject it

can be used to do the same

[supple galleon]

look at this shi...

why does my urp have the grain

not using tonemapping or grain

ive also disabled my post processing

[marble vigil]

Do you have renderer features in use?

[supple galleon]

nope

[supple galleon]

its only urp that does this, i havent had any of this in 2020

(its only 2022 that does it)*

[marble vigil]

Hmm I would try to create a fresh URP asset and URP Renderer asset, sometimes something gets messed up within them

Camera dithering setting does use blue noise for de-banding but it shouldn't ever be perceptible like that

I would also try to verify it's specific to certain assets /textures/materials/shaders

[supple galleon]

did already

[jolly quail]

URP by default enabling SSAO

can you check it if it's on or not?

[supple galleon]

il do, where is it?

[jolly quail]

in the render pipeline

[supple galleon]

oh

[supple galleon]

dont find it

[marble vigil]

Can you show what the render features section of your URP renderer looks like

[jolly quail]

this one

it should be turned off since it wont look good for some grass shader

and it's quite expensive too

[supple galleon]

ohk

[marble vigil]

You mentioned the problem happens on 2022 unity, but not 2020 unity, while this is the 2021 unity
Does the problem occur here as well?

[supple galleon]

thank you so much, ive been thinking its a problem with my gpu or with my unity, im working on a very big project and i dont want something to go bad

[marble vigil]

Have you tried creating a new project with the problematic version to see if it suffers from it to begin iwth?

Have you upgraded or downgraded your project across unity versions at some point?

[supple galleon]

it goes away

[marble vigil]

Any information beyond "doesn't work" would be helpful

[supple galleon]

but it only happens in 2022, why?

[marble vigil]

@jolly quail (Sorry quadro replied to you on accident)

[supple galleon]

up, from 2020 to 2022

[jolly quail]

all good man 👍

[supple galleon]

because alot of assets didnt work with 2020

[marble vigil]

That's a huge step that can break stuff behind the scenes
Make sure you're using backups or version control when making changes like that

[supple galleon]

but i kinda stop using assets, im started creating my own

[supple galleon]

yi made a few backups

[marble vigil]

You can also try deleting Library folder and letting it regenerate

But at this point I'm most curious about making a fresh test project with the problem version

[supple galleon]

but my project is like 60gb💀

[jolly quail]

is it fixed?

[supple galleon]

yes, thanks

[jolly quail]

sure np 👍

[marble vigil]

So what was it?

[supple galleon]

the Screenspace ambient occlusion

[marble vigil]

I thought you confirmed that was off when I asked about having any renderer features

[supple galleon]

oh

well, sorry if i did i was probably in mind with something else

ok so ive figured that turning it from Blue Noise to Interleaved Gradient it doesnt give me the weird grain

[supple galleon]

im sorry if i did

[supple galleon]

i see, im sorry i thought you meant like custom post processing

@marble vigil

[marble vigil]

That's okay, I could've been more specific
We'll catch issues like these the quickest by being as precise as possible

[supple galleon]

ok👍

[midnight gate]

Can't see anything that is beyond 500km from camera though camera has far plane set to 2000km - i think unity urp uses logarithmic z buffer so this should be possible?(using unity 2022.3.16f1)

[marble vigil]

I've had trouble with anything beyond 5 to 10 km

But it depends what you need to do with it

As a rule of thumb you should keep everything within that 5 to 10 km radius and use rendering tricks for everything else

[midnight gate]

I think i tried this earlier and i could render plane on 1 000 km from camera but now for some reason it's not possible - idea is to render ring world with huge radius

I know those tricks with 2nd camera etc but i thought this is also possible - for example in SC planets are like 1000km radius(and they say those planets are Earth-like planets (Earth radius is actually 6000+kms))

[marble vigil]

Does the player need to be able to seamlessly explore the ring world?

SC?

[midnight gate]

Star Citizen yes i want to fly all over ring world in space ship

[marble vigil]

As far as I know no game like that tries to render any planet in "real scale" but instead use a variety of tricks

There's a lot of different techniques but I expect they're probably fading in the up-close geometry over the "3D skybox" variants of the celestial bodies when approached

Camera relative rendering is also pretty important for the effect

I don't think there's any simple or singular way to go about it

Cranking up the far plane will turn anything up close into mush quite fast

[midnight gate]

Ok thx for answer i will try something similar

[marble vigil]

I'd try to find as many resources about the topic as possible, like blog posts or GDC talks from games that have done it

HDRP has camera relative rendering while URP yet does not, so it may have a significant advantage in this

[midnight gate]

What i found is so called compute shader rasterizing - this is very advanced technique(that need also to present doubles as 2 floats) but this is hard to implement(there is example in webgpu on github) : https://github.com/OmarShehata/webgpu-compute-rasterizer/blob/1228ad691fffe94f8ec0401103cabd810730d92b/how-to-build-a-compute-rasterizer.md (here is only rasterized some simple geometry not far away from camera but i think it can be extended by using doubles in described way to much larger geometry and ofc far away from camera - but has a lot of disadvantages like it's hard/impossible to use urp shaders you have to write your own, then shadows etc)

[nova bear]

Take a look at how kerbal space program handles it's planetary rendering, I believe there's a talk on it somewhere. It's always a bad idea to try to render anything farther than 15ish km away just because of floating precision issues anyways. They have a pass to render distant objects before the main scene, and make use of a perspective trick called scaled space, where they render much smaller models much much closer to the camera (using some math) and align it such that it is visually identical to a giant object hugely far away. They still store the planet's real position (with doubles), but critically, they never try to render it. At some point they swap the scaled space mesh for a true size mesh, and it's basically seamless if done well.

I'd be shocked if star citizen didn't do something similar

Basically just fake the look of something far away while still using floats and a regular renderer. You might need a custom shader to write different depth values to pretend it's far away for fog or other depth effects, but it's very much possible

[supple galleon]

now what?!?!?!?!

[nova bear]

https://youtu.be/kvytgzvqlgQ?si=fGDAGUTo1ui52mFc

There's another talk somewhere for ksp1 but this covers some of the art pipeline too, which is definitely helpful

[supple galleon]

@jolly quail

[midnight gate]

Thx for this resource

[jolly quail]

well, what did you just do?

is there any setting that you change?

[supple galleon]

idk, i think it only happens on this specific model

[supple galleon]

no

[jolly quail]

is this using custom shader?

[supple galleon]

no but could it be becuase of this setting?

[marble vigil]

Is SSAO enabled here or not

[supple galleon]

yes but on other stuff it doesn happen

like this is the only plant

(i am currently creating plants for my game)

[marble vigil]

Like I suggested previously, test it with a different texture, material and shader

To try to isolate the issue

Test the same material in another different mesh

[supple galleon]

ok i figured that changing the radius increase the weird effect

[marble vigil]

Not what I suggested there

[supple galleon]

i set it to 0.01 now its gone

[supple galleon]

yes but i truly sorry

sorryyy "Spazi and quadro"

im realy sorry, this havent happen before

[marble vigil]

I assume your SSAO is effectively gone as well with that

[supple galleon]

yup

il just remove although it does make my game look much better

and again i am sorry for bothering

[marble vigil]

Not a bother at all, as long as you give clear information and try the suggestions we give

[exotic bobcat]

Are negative lights possible in URP?

as in, a light component that subtracts light

looking for it to apply it to this bottomless pit

[warped roost]

Nope, u can use shader graph

A shader that make things dark based on depth

Watch some water shader graph tutorials on youtube

Its the same technique they use to make deep water look darker

[exotic bobcat]

lovely

thanks

[marble vigil]

Yes, at least in earlier versions it was
Editor doesn't allow it, but scripts do

[warped roost]

Seems like a extremely hacky solution to me

[marble vigil]

Still, you'd have negative specularity which would look all kinds of weird
For a shadowy pit I'd make a transparent mesh with a dark fade
Or go the shader route with a material that fades to black over a distance

[hushed lion]

so a black hole? try setting scale of a cube to a ridiculously low number

[warped roost]

How does that work

[hushed lion]

not sure if it works like that in unity but it does work in physics

[hushed lion]

physics

How can i achieve a low bitrate effect in urp, is it even possible?

[marble vigil]

Depends what you mean by "low bitrate"

[hushed lion]

like you're watching a twitch stream with a 1mb/s internet at 720p

you may see some artifacts

and i want that

luckily i have an example (webgl)

https://www.anumberfromtheghost.com/

i think this does it really well, as it does feel like you're playing through a stream

you just need to enter a music video to see it

[marble vigil]

Have you got a screenshot? I see film grain but not anything resembling a low bitrate

[hushed lion]

um its kinda hard to see but theres some sort of compression so you can see some chunks

[marble vigil]

If you mean this it looks to me like an actual video texture with compression, not a realtime compression effect

[hushed lion]

ah yes exactly

[marble vigil]

Besides that there's a lot of simple blue noise

there's also animated overlay textures like this

@hushed lion if you can get by making a fullscreen shader that merely looks like compression, that's the best option
It's technically possible to use the same algorithm that realtime video compression uses but it's really complicated and specialized, not like the fullscreen effects we normally make for games

With URP you can also decrease render scale with one of the upscaling filters to enhance the effect

[hushed lion]

i'll try

thanks man

[ionic snow]

How do I get a fullscreen Blit in a custom scriptable render pass? I tried using this Unity manual but the line Blitter.BlitCameraTexture(cmd, m_CameraColorTarget, m_CameraColorTarget, m_Material, 0); where the RTHandle gets blit to itself seems to be causes buggy behavior from what I can see in my own example and have read about online in forums and documentation; it fails to correctly blit the data. Adding a second RTHandle is supposed to be a workaround, but I haven't found a way to get it working without using obsolete APIs like CommandBuffer.GetTemporaryRT and CommandBuffer.Blit. I read that the suggestion method is to use RenderingUtils.ReAllocateIfNeeded but I have been unable to get it working. Can anyone point me to an example of a fullscreen blit using URP 16 with srp?

[sour shadow]

Does anyone know how I can get a rendertexture from an orthographic camera that only sees objects from 1 layer, to only show those objects and cut out the rest, I've turned the background to solid and to be fully transparent but this has no effect on it and always includes the background

[jagged nexus]

Hello. I switched my Unity project to the Universal Render Pipeline (URP). I converted the materials etc.

But the asset pack which I bought faces difficulties with a lot of assets. Yet, the owner of this asset pack claims that it fully supports URP/HDRP. Am I doing something wrong?

[marble vigil]

You're not supposed to convert them if it supports the render pipelines, but look for the correct assets

[quartz socket]

guys I don't know if this belongs here but now I changed my material to urp when I shoot my bullets at an object instead of the bullets disappearing they are reflected

[quartz socket]

like this:

this was not happening me before

[marble vigil]

@jagged nexus The asset you're using has "SRP install instructions", "URP setup notes" and a .unitypackage for URP
Check them all out

[quartz socket]

it worked

[jagged nexus]

I fixed it. It's always the same. I search hours for a solution, I ask for help somewhere and immediately afterwards I find the solution. It's doomed! 🙂

[jagged nexus]

Exactly. I didn't see it

[marble vigil]

#archived-urp is only related to graphics and rendering, while this seems to be a scripting problem
You have some obvious red errors in your console which likely stop your script from running

[jagged nexus]

I am wondering. Does it affect the materials if I convert them and then use the .unitypackage for URP? Cause the light and the shadows appear too intense.

It's the first time I am actually using URP. I don't know whether this is normal or I did something wrong

[quartz socket]

solved 😉

[marble vigil]

It doesn't look normal
If you've upgraded an existing project, some URP configurations may be missing or incorrect
And if the asset is designed to work in a specific way, it could be disruptive to do the steps in wrong order

I'd refer to its documentation in the latter case

[jagged nexus]

Would you recommend me to delete and re-import the assets in the according project? And then use the .unitypackage for URP so I do not wrongly convert them beforehand.

I am wondering whether this would negatively affect my scene. I am very cautious after I figured out that git doesn't "heal" the changes I do with a render pipeline change.

[marble vigil]

I would recommend that, but check the asset documentation first
Git should be able to revert any change to tracked assets, though in some (rare) cases the changes are made to Library which isn't (shouldn't be) tracked

I would also recommend making a fresh project with URP preinstalled, or at least getting the settings from there

[jagged nexus]

Ye, I did that with URP preinstalled. But in the wrong order (1st converting 2nd using the .unitypackage for URP). I'll test that on this test project

[jagged nexus]

I totally forgot that I am ignoring the assets with my .gitignore because this asset pack is so freaking large

[marble vigil]

By URP preinstalled I don't mean the package, but the project
URP works best if you have a volume with tonemapping, and have enabled Linear color space and HDR from project settings
But if you're developing for mobile those options may not be available in build

[jagged nexus]

This is weird.

I deleted my assets in the project folder. Removed and reinstalled the URP package from the manager. Reimported the assets I just deleted. Executed the URP .unitypackage. And then this error occurs and all my materials remain pink. Is it truely necessary to do the material convertion thing which I thought is wrong?

[marble vigil]

Sounds weird
What did the asset's "SRP install instructions", "URP setup notes" tell you to do?

[jagged nexus]

Except for this page there is nothing worth mentioning (Only "what's new" etc).

But this doesn't seem relevant for my particular issue

This is the SRP install instructions

1 - Make a new URP or HDRP project template using your Unity Hub
2 - Install one of the packages that fit your newly created pipeline
3 - Enjoy creating!

[marble vigil]

Oh, that's a letdown

[jagged nexus]

what do you mean exactly? I am a bit confused by the instructions of the txt

Does step 1 involve creating a total different project which uses either URP or HDRP? So I cannot change the pipeline within an existing project as I did previous times?

[marble vigil]

They're very general instructions I mean
It can be used with upgraded projects but it recommends making a new one, probably because it's a smoother experience that way
It doesn't have any steps beyond "install package, install URP package within"

[haughty garnet]

Question on URP render objects and using the stencils. Basically I've split both the opaque queue and transparent queue into individual render objects for a specific layer. The problem I am having is that even though I've now full control on ordering of the rendering, it seems that I've lost the alpha blend information in doing so.

I've messed around with the settings a bunch, but I'm not sure if it's just a limitation or perhaps there's more I need to clarify like the depth

Perhaps there's more options if I were to just do the passes via script

[haughty garnet]

Oh, actually it seems to just be a problem with post processing, hmm

[jagged nexus]

Spazi, thanks for your patience. I am most likely going to create a new project with the URP template to prevent any unforeseeable problems 🙂

[haughty garnet]

Well, I seem to have got a lot of what I want working, but unfortunately it seems less performative than I hoped. I'm not too sure of the problem, but it seems masking objects over other scene objects still contributes to the total rendering/batching done. I guess technically I'm overdrawing somehow? But I expected the stencil pixel replacement to fix many of those issues, but I guess not.

[lofty haven]

doubled shadow distance with halved shadow resolution will result in same performance?

[marble vigil]

Increasing shadow distance doesn't by itself change shadow resolution at all
In fact doubling it more than halves relative shadow resolution because the number of shadowmap pixels are now spread thinner over the larger area

But it would decrease performance relative to how many more meshes now need to be included in shadow casting, which may be significant if you're not using LODs and distance culling, or small to negligible if you are or have no meshes in the distance

[quartz crow]

i converted my project to URP and now my materials and everything have this weird grey pixels around them, what's causing this? do i gotta rebake the scene or something?

[marble vigil]

I don't think it has anything to do with baking
Looks like either a post processing effect or a renderer feature such as SSAO malfunctioning

I'd try to confirm that by disabling any active renderer features from the active renderer asset

[quartz crow]

yeah baking wasnt it, just tried removing my data asset

[quartz crow]

wait how do i do that

[marble vigil]

As part of converting to URP you've created a least one URP asset and a URP renderer asset to go with it
The renderer contains renderer features like SSAO

(If you have more than one URP asset you may need to figure out which one of them is the active one so your changes would stick)

[quartz crow]

yep, disabling SSAO fixed the problem, thanks <3

[marble vigil]

If you need SSAO it's probably possible to fix the issue by tweaking its values

[quartz crow]

Yeah I ended up tweaking the distance, qualities and radii for different assets

[clever prawn]

what exactly is the URP in laymans terms and what is it best used for?

[warped roost]

[hollow moon]

Renderqueue doesn't show up for materials when in URP it seems.

Is there something I can do for that level of control?

[marble vigil]

I think you can override it with scripts
Or use the Render Objects feature

[clever prawn]

i get that its used in making games for mobile and phone but why would i use that over hdrp or regular unity? can't i acheive the same thing in both?

if its a 3d harvest game i don't see why i'd need anything other than basic vanilla unity

[warped roost]

Not specifically mobile games.

It has things like vfx graph and shader graph, it can also provide higher fidelity graphics with a low performance cost

Its pretty good for stylized and semi-realistic games

If you want the best performance you can get then use built in

[clever prawn]

so none of them are really designed to have custom scripted shaders, or rather if i wanted a custom scripted shader and lighting to work best i'd have to use URP or HDRP depending on the game

[warped roost]

Im pretty sure all render pipelines can use custom scripted shaders

Its just that urp and hdrp have a visual node based tool to create shaders

[clever prawn]

ahh thats the difference

[jolly quail]

BIRP have acess to the shadergraph too

idk about VFX graph tho

[warped roost]

Since when is that

I remember having to upgrade my project to urp just for shader graph

[jolly quail]

if i am not wrong it's on 2022

you can create one shader for 3 pipeline now (BIRP, URP and HDRP)

ofc as long as the node is supported

[clever prawn]

neato

[jolly quail]

simply add this

but ofc, it will increase build time too

[clever prawn]

inserts today I learned

[supple galleon]

dang, SSAO has alot of problems

[marble vigil]

While I'm glad that it's available it feels like it needs a lot of refining

[knotty plinth]

Using normal maps for the first time. I want to make it look like how the pattern is on the floor. Why is the normal map texture so much more pronounced on a wall? It basically covers up the base map texture.

[jolly quail]

probably the UV map of your 3d object

[supple galleon]

yes

[marble vigil]

What does the normal map texture look like itself?

Is it also set as type: normal map?

[knotty plinth]

Yes this was more or less the issue, I just used a simple texture and then made it into a normal map through Unity. It works much better now that I ran the original image through a normal map generator

[clear totem]

Is there a way to have multiple global PostProcessing volumes in a scene?

example:

Volume1:

• Bloom
• Motion Blur

Volume 2:

• Lift, Gamma, Gain

and so to kinda blend them

[plain matrix]

So, I was trying to follow this Unity Tutorial on how to make a compute shader for a 3D graph made of cubes so it could run on the GPU. I was section 2.5: URP, on this page approximately.

Tutorial: https://catlikecoding.com/unity/tutorials/basics/compute-shaders/

When I made the ShaderGraphFunction, and added the HLSL script inside this. I got this error.

"Shader error in 'Shader Graphs/Master': Include file 'PointGPU.hlsl' has been recursively included 16 times, stopping compilation."

I could not decipher this error, and I knew a few basics of deciphering & debugging errors. But there was no way I could debug this.

When I ignored the warning, & tested the project, I only saw a purple cube.

When I returned to the shader graph, it returned to an incomplete state.

So, please give technical guidance on how to get through this.

[cyan swallow]

Anyone got any ideas why material.EnableKeyword(string keyword) might do nothing? I've checked the keyword is correctly declared in the shader. If I supply an incorrect keyword, I can see the incorrect keyword appear in the InvalidKeywords list of the material in debug inspector mode, but the correct keyword never appears in the Valid Keywords list

[cyan swallow]

Through logging I've been able to find out at least that material.EnableKeyword is working as expect, but Unity immediately reverts the changes on the first few frames of PIE. It seems this is triggered by Unity compiling a shader variant, which resets the material keywords and creates a new instance, which no longer has the keywords set

[placid laurel]

How do i fix this goofy ahh shadows

[tight furnace]

What exactly is it that you want to change about them?
There are multiple things you can adjust about Shadows, but it's not clear to me what in those images is "goofy"

[placid laurel]

They're not in the right place

[tight furnace]

Shadows are related to your Lighting, if you say that the Shadows are not in the right place, you might want to change your Lighting

[placid laurel]

Why is it not connecting to the table arms 🥶

[tight furnace]

You can adjust your Shadows Quality by using more/less Cascades and adjusting the Bias, that may fix the "not connecting" part

[placid laurel]

Oh ok thanks 🥶💪

[tight furnace]

No problem! For LowPoly Models, I usually set both the Bias values to be 0.

Also, for the future, if you're on a Windows PC (any OS actually) you can just press the shortcut for making a Screenshot and directly paste it into Discord, may be more straight forward for all of us, those artifacts when making a photo of the screen with your phone made it hard to actually see the issue you're having with the shadows for me 😃

[prime violet]

how can I add a stylized grass in my project, I think URP is the problem

[warped sphinx]

Is there a way to setup shadows distance per layers or something?
I have mix of very big ennemies and small swarm, and would like the big ones to cast shadows even from afar while the little ones only display theirs upclose for performances reasons.
Is there any way to do something like this?

[marble vigil]

You may be misunderstanding what kind of shadows should be cast there
The shadow of the table top would not be connected to where the table legs meet the floor as your arrows seem to be implying
What may be confusing you is that your shadow resolution is so low (and/or light source size/diameter is so high potentially) that you cannot easily see the shadows of the table legs

[marble vigil]

Try googling "urp stylized grass" and go wild

[placid laurel]

Damn ur right

How do i fix the legs then 🥶

[marble vigil]

Still, tweaking shadow resolution up or playing with bias values could improve the appearance
Just avoid extreme bias values like anything too high or anything close to zero, or you get different shadow issues elsewhere

[placid laurel]

But when i'm messing with the bias the shadows ain't doing anything 🥶💪

Trying to edit the render pipeline and the light nothing works

[marble vigil]

This is totally fine and an expected use of volume overrides
Two different overrides from different volumes work together
Two of the same overrides from different volumes override each other based on priority, and are blended by volume Weight
(though some overrides can't be blended / can't have partial weight)

[placid laurel]

Please tell me ur infinite wisdom and infinite power across many planes

[marble vigil]

If nothing works, you are probably editing settings of a quality level / from a render pipeline asset that's not actually in use by the currently active quality level
The last quality level you've clicked in Project>Quality> is the currently active one
There should also be biases that can be set per-light source that work regardless of quality level

I'd try increasing resolution first though, to make the effects of bias more apparent
Note that there are many different settings for shadow resolution that can be confusing

[placid laurel]

Thank you for your infinite knowledge and wisdom i shall try apply your learnings to my creation and life and child

[marble vigil]

Some of them are only for the main directional light, while the "additional light" shadow resolutions use a tiered system, which means each light can choose between three resolutions which correspond to the three defined in the URP asset

Additional lights are "punctual lights" meaning point lights and spot lights

[marble vigil]

Good luck!

[wise ember]

so I'm not sure if this happens without URP but for some reason my lighting goes really bright in some places when Contribute To Global illumination is on the object, it seems like smaller places do this but the room Infront of the bad one I smaller, I'm also going to post this in #archived-lighting so those people can help, i also sent an image of a good room

also this only happens after bake

[jolly quail]

the only reason i could think of right now is lighting intensity

the value could be too high

[wise ember]

could that effect lightmap?

[wise ember]

plus i only use 1 material for lighting

and when the lights are gone its still like that

this is the light map

[jolly quail]

can you check your hierarchy

try typing t:light

this will filter your gameobj and show only game object that have light component

just to be sure

[wise ember]

only that

[jolly quail]

is this custom 3d object? like from blender or something

make sure that this setting is on

if it's still not correct then i can only assume that your baking process was having an error

well i could be wrong tho, since whenever i have this kind of problem was because of the light intensity or the generate lighmap was turned off

[wise ember]

were is this?

[jolly quail]

search your custom 3d in the inspector

*in the project

[wise ember]

its not a model, its a plane

[jolly quail]

defautl plane from unity?

[wise ember]

no, probuilder, not sure what the diffrence is though

[jolly quail]

hmm, i have never use probuilder before and i belive there's different between mesh generated from pro builder and unity default plane

but if you have a time you could try baking both of them (plane from probuilder and default unity)

for debugging the problem

[wise ember]

the thing is, i have other probuilder planes and its only this one thats doing it

[jolly quail]

maybe try disable any emmisive material for the room that have broken lightmap and try baking it again?

since you only have 1 light so the extra light can only come from emmisive materials

[wise ember]

alright trying this

[jolly quail]

good luck 👍

[wise ember]

same thing

[jolly quail]

hmm, well i cant think any other reason other than what i just suggested

[wise ember]

odd, cause its not the room thats glowing its the light map

[wise ember]

@jolly quail this is the light map of the room

[jolly quail]

honestly if you want the dumb way you can just put the texture into the photoshop and just make it darker

it wont fix the original problem thi

[ripe walrus]

After I installed urp I started getting weird lighting issues like this

how can I fix it?

[marble vigil]

Try tweaking the directional light near plane setting

[ripe walrus]

I fixed it! Ty!

[quartz socket]

why my decal material isnt rendering?

[cyan talon]

You've not shown any details about what's meant to be in the scene, is there a quad here, what are we actually looking at?

Also decals don't tend to render in thin air, they're designed to be projected on surfaces, so if you've made one from a Decal Shader Graph it's designed for the Decal system

[clear goblet]

Opening a prefab of the decal wont give it anything to render on

[smoky wind]

anybody know how to fix these types of lighting bugs with urp?

moving the editor view ever so slightly makes the scene darker

the lighting is so choppy

im experiencing it in multiple projects where the lighting is cut off and its super blocky on certain faces

or like this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/862130525212901396/1192134172840562798/lightissue.gif?ex=65a7f877&is=65958377&hm=f32dde0406dc811a6fb36411ab653c2c287100ae7ea5f1ba78e784dcae99a57a&

this gif better explains it

(and this project is for vr)

[marble vigil]

It looks like you're using vertex lighting
Is that intentional?

[lament mauve]

Why does the URP implementation of Dear IMGUI make Gizmos dissapear on Unity 2023? Does anything in the render feature stand out? I have 0 experience with URP rendering features.

Shader script

[smoky wind]

I learned to switch it off vertex lighting but that was the default

But my buddy showed me what to do

[quartz socket]

Yes, but even the render of the thumbnail from the prefab-material should works, now if it is applied to a quad it doesn't work either

here is how looks the quad

[quartz socket]

Yes, but what I wanted to say is that even if I rendered it on a quad it won't work, the decal would really work, the thumbnail of the prefab would show well

[marble vigil]

Where's the quad here?

[quartz socket]

The quad is which is selected on the photo

It's BulletHole

Without the thumbnail

[marble vigil]

Why aren't you testing the decal in scene against world geometry?

[minor lake]

when i change a value of this volume while not in playing mode it works, but once i enter play mode it resets back to 0

why is this happening?

[clear goblet]

Even if you put the material on a mesh thats not how decals works what you have now is a form of mesh decal you still need other geometry to project to

[cloud night]

Help please, Surface Options are not appearing when autodeskinteractive is selected, this is happening in 2022.3.7f1 URP and 2022.3.16f1 URP. This does not occur in HDRP.

[quartz socket]

all the materials when i set to decal they turn like there are not material

in all the ways

the thumbnails even

all decals are like that

[sturdy violet]

I am trying to use _MainTex for a shader and when I apply the material to a sprite, it seems to be applying it to the whole sprite sheet that the sprite is on. Any ideas?

[marble vigil]

If you're stuck in a loop we'll need you to break out of it
Try the decal projector against world geometry
Forget about thumbnails and prefab isolation mode

[quartz socket]

yeah the material can render but like i said before the decal projector needs a decal

and when i change to decal it seems to not work the material

[quartz socket]

the decal materials always requires a normal map texture?

[cyan talon]

You have two warnings that you need to resolve before decals will work properly

[quartz socket]

ok

[quartz socket]

so how i should solve that?

[jolly quail]

convert bulletHole material to decal

[signal creek]

I'm switching an older project from built-in to URP and have a question about setup. My project uses 2d sprites for the characters and a 3d world for everything else. When I go to create the URP Asset, I get two choices (URP asset with 2d renderer and URP asset with universal renderer). Should I pick 2d even though my game isn't fully 2d? Would doing that negatively affect rendering for my 3d world scenes? Still new to the SRP concept and I don't fully understand the tradeoff between the two choices here.

[violet bison]

If you're mixing 2D and 3D - you should opt for the Universal Renderer.
2D Renderer gives you more tools for 2D-specific stuff.
I believe you can change later too if you feel like you chose the wrong option.

[mighty cargo]

Is there any way to change shadow resolution/bias per object? I'd like my trees to have a lot more blurry/softer shadows but keep the same res for characters

[deep quail]

anyone encountered this problem in unity 2023.3.0b1

UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipelineManager:DoRenderLoop_Internal (UnityEngine.Rendering.RenderPipelineAsset,intptr,UnityEngine.Object,Unity.Collections.LowLevel.Unsafe.AtomicSafetyHandle)```
```InvalidOperationException: Trying to use a texture (_MainLightShadowmapTexture) that was already released or not yet created. Make sure you declare it for reading in your pass or you don't read it before it's been written to at least once.

[hushed lion]

how do i enable SSR??

[warped roost]

Thats not a thing in urp.

It is only officially avalable in hdrp

But there is probably some asset out there that adds ssr to urp

[hushed lion]

"universal"

screen space reflections are relatively cheap, why cant they implement it officially on urp?

[strong aspen]

its on the roadmap

along with volumetric fog and RTX for URP

[eternal solar]

Hi, I'm playing with the ShadowCaster2D component, and have it using the Sprite Renderer as the casting source with Trim Edge = 0.2
I like the effect, but for some reason the shadows look different in the editor than in the build, any ideas why? Comparison attached

[marble vigil]

@signal creek @violet bison URP 2D Renderer locks you out of most of 3D rendering features, including any shader that's not simply Unlit
URP's default ("Universal") renderer locks you out of some 2D rendering features like 2D lighting and pixel perfect camera
Built-in Render Pipeline locks no features into just 3D or 2D, so while it's antiquated in many ways, it still has an advantage in projects that are 2D/3D hybrids

[signal creek]

@marble vigil @violet bison Thanks for the insight y'all, I was looking for a quick breakdown of the options like this but couldn't find it in the Unity docs. I might stick with Universal since I'm hesistant to hang onto Built-in at this point.

[marble vigil]

In my opinion you should start with the default 3D URP for hybrid graphics and see if you run into limitations
If you need predominantly 2D visuals, 2D URP might work, though you'll likely be using the shader graph a lot to make the mesh shaders
If you need pixel perfect rendering and the 3D stuff seamlessly pixel perfect with the 2D, then BiRP is your only practical option

[signal creek]

@marble vigil Yeah that sounds like the best course of action at this point.

[deep quail]

anyone had problem with adaptive probe volume in URP scene view and after clicking "CTRL" button?

[marble vigil]

If you can repro it you should file a bug report

[placid laurel]

hey guys, got a weird issue, my lighting maps arent saving for some reason. no clue why. anyone know how to fix this, unity version 2022.3.6f1.

ill bake them, it will load, and work, but as soon as i reload the project they default back to what they were before the bake

[marble vigil]

Do the lightmaps appear in the assets? Does the scene's reference to Lightmap Settings asset change at some point?
If the Lightmap Settings asset is preserved in the project, can you reassign it?

[placid laurel]

yea they do, they get made and everything. but they just wont stay.

also what do you mean reassign it?

heres a before and after before:

after

the lighting isnt weorking.

the lighting settings asset dosent seem to be changeing, i set it as a new one just to check and it hasnt changed.

baked lights are sdhowing up just not working

[marble vigil]

You would make sure the Lighting Settings asset in this field is the one that the lighting was baked with

[placid laurel]

yea because this is a new bake

i made a new asset, baked it.

reloaded and its the same issue

[marble vigil]

I mean to say
Is there the old asset with the old baked lighting around you could test

From the image it looks like your baked lighting is working somewhat, so maybe it's the mesh that changes somehow

Otherwise we wouldn't be seeing the shadows of the frames at all, I assume

[placid laurel]

yes but its haveing the same issue.

@marble vigil if your able would it be easier if we vc?

got any idea then @marble vigil ?

[marble vigil]

Just a hunch that it's more likely to be a problem with the meshes than the lightmapping

[placid laurel]

didnt have this issue before.

its a recent issue. something changed.

i dont know what but something did

also if it where a case of an issue with the meshes, wouldnt it show on the first bake?

why would it start an issue after a reload?

[marble vigil]

Not something I've seen before
But the clue that we seem to have is that the lightmap is there, but the mesh lightmap UVs are changing somehow

[placid laurel]

how tho, its not like im changing the uvs and then putting the wall back in...

the wall is haveing an issue for some resason, its images dont get the shadows its just the walls.

could it be a shader issue?

[austere aspen]

Is there anything else I can do for the lighting in my game? Any feedbacks?

[placid laurel]

managed to fix it wanna know what i did? i took a copy of the wall part, put it above the old one, removed the old one and put the new one back in. it fixed it for some weird reasion...

[ebon belfry]

#archived-shaders message

[storm roost]

hello, when changing from high fidelity settings to performant, for some reason my title image gets super blurry.
image 1 is performant (blurry), image 2 is non blurry title.

how can I prevent an image from becoming blurry?

i've also pasted the image import settings.

thanks in advance!

[cyan talon]

Presumably you have Project Settings/Quality/Global Mipmap Limit set to something other than Full Resolution

[storm roost]

that was it! thanks a lot!

[unkempt vector]

Unity 2021.3.9f1 / URP.
Spent the past week or so fine tuning our URP settings, render texture formats (we dump most visuals to a game or UI RT before composing them via canvas), etc.

Come up for air, and I'm finding on certain UI elements, I'm getting static noise visible over areas that are hidden by UI masks. The static noise seems to be representative of the hidden elements' silhouette.

I've grabbed a screenshot where you can see it mid animation, and highlighted it in the second: white glitchy static.

I've been going through trying to revert settings one by one, but am coming up empty handed.

The layout we've got is a "UI" RenderTexture and a "Game" RenderTexture. These are then rendered to screen via a camera, as RawImages with the UI layer ontop. This static only seems to be appearing over transparent regions of the UI rendertexture - if i put a backdrop to the UI, no static.

Has anyone run into this before?

[rugged cradle]

is there something wrong? Why this camera is boxed red?

[pulsar sandal]

Guys, I used the urp decals to create a "fake shadow" proyected from the player to indicate where they are going to fall on a platformer; but somehow it isn't showing when I export it as a WebGL; even though in the editor on the same version is showing properly; any idea why this might be?

[nimble oak]

im really confused on whats going on here, I added URP to my project and upgraded all my materials and yet they are still broken?

I checked and standard built in shaders are still pink

[primal sun]

how did you upgrade the materials?

[dull patio]

hi all, any idea what could be causing this issue? the pipeline settings are all correct and it works on another PC just not my laptop

[marble vigil]

Check the active quality levels and their render pipeline assets
Looks to me that a 3D scene is being viewed with the 2D renderer asset

[neon verge]

hi, anyone ever succeeded in rendering Parallax occlusion mapping shadows under URP?

[rancid stag]

Hello everyone. Isnt DepthMode : After Opaques supposed to copy depth after opaques have been rendered ? Im having some issues with my AO not being applied correctly because I do vertex position modifications in a Shader Graph. But looking at the frame debugger, no matter what I try, DepthNormals are always done before opaques

Closer camera which displays the issue bit more clearly in the preview

Actually, it looks like this could be the culprit, Im on 2022.3.7 https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/rendering-layers-trigger-depthnormalprepass-when-using-decal-and-full-screen-pass-render-features

[rancid stag]

Sadly not, upgrading to newest 2022 doesnt change the ordering of the depth pass no matter what settings i try. Any advice with the above?

[static shoal]

Edit: It's weird, but I restarted my computer, tried again and it was there.
Was trying to switch to URP when I found that the Rendering option has disappeared from my 'create' dropdown. I've scrolled as far as I can go, and it's not there. Any idea what could be wrong? I had just imported the URP and was about to make a new rendering asset. It also does this with any new project I create

[gritty marlin]

is there any way to disable a lens flare on one camera? like if I have 2 lens flares pointing at the same light. I dont want to turn off post processing on one of them.

and how can I make a specific object NOT occlude a lens flare?

[marble vigil]

No, unless one of the brand new editor versions implemented that

A pretty glaring limitation

[gritty marlin]

and what about making an object not occlude a lens flare

i saw it done in unity 5

[marble vigil]

Srp lens flare uses purely the depth buffer iirc
So all opaque objects will occlude it whereas transparents will not
Which means there isn't any simple way to otherwise disable occlusion

[gritty marlin]

thanks

[slim violet]

Somebody knows how to fix this hair to look better? Im using Unity toon shader in URP https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/497872424281440267/1194815652934996058/image.png?ex=65b1b9ca&is=659f44ca&hm=06af0a8a315e7feb64b8118fd84ebd30216e45eca6a952ce0ce13ae458407425&

[sinful gorge]

Most toon shaded characters use solid modeled hair without transparancy

[dull patio]

I had a look and it looks fine? i think?

[marble vigil]

Quality tab, not Graphics tab for the active quality level
Then examine what renderers the urp assets are using

[dull patio]

ahh my bad, i went through them all and added the renderer, all of them except ultra had no pipeline , but I still have the sme poblem

[marble vigil]

Can you describe the "this issue" in words here rather than making me guess, and give any background information that could be relevant
Are you intending to use the 2D or 3D renderer? Are they meshes or sprites? What's the scene supposed to look like?

[dull patio]

yeah all good, sorry for no context. so.. i added lights and it looked like this (attached video) a few days ago (2D renderer, sprites etc)
I pulled the project onto my laptop and now im getting i posted here before. I double checked the packges are all loaded, the reneder is the same, i did however forgot to commit the sprites i used so im using different ones now then in this video

[marble vigil]

I see, check the camera component's background setting

It could be "uninitialized" instead of a color

[dull patio]

brother... youre kidding that was it

thank you

[marble vigil]

Threw me off a bit as that also happens if you have a 3D scene that uses a 2D renderer, which also turns meshes into dull solid colors that look just like your sprites here

[dull patio]

ahh ok, good to know

[hoary tundra]

Hello.

I'm trying to fix a 3rd party outline effect for Unity 2023.2.2.
https://github.com/Robinseibold/Unity-URP-Outlines

Before upgrading my project from 2022.x.x, it was working just fine. I'm communicating with the author of the outline effect and he's willing to fix it for the new Unity version but he will be busy for weeks and I would like to help him via a pull request. I updated the scriptable rendering changes (Using RTHandle instead of the obsolete RenderTargetHandle) and make it compatible/compilable for 2023.2.2 but there is a serious visual problem I can't get my head around.

I posted the details to Unity forums. I wonder if any of you guys experienced a similar problem.
https://forum.unity.com/threads/rendererfeature-shader-got-broken-after-upgrading-to-unity-2023-2-2.1536004/

[thin spire]

Just had unity crash on me

TWO TIMES IN A ROW

maybe if the devs focused more on making the engine good and less on fucking the developers THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN

I am going to cry if urp does it again

[mild kite]

Can someone tell me why these random pixels appear between my wall tiles at a certain angle?

The models are anchored on a grid and there are no floating point errors.

[gritty marlin]

Is it possible to render a culled layer's shadows? like for example, the main cam culls the player and weapon. but I still want shadows. making a object shadows only wont work for them as for example, the gun layer is rendered on a second cam and stacked to prevent clipping. thanks for any answers.

[haughty garnet]

dont cull the weapon on the main cam but instead keep the mesh render on it and set the opacity to zero with a transparent shader

[gritty marlin]

wouldnt that just make the weapon completely invisible on the gun cam

[haughty garnet]

Ah, in that case have two renders of it

something like that

at minimum, you need a mesh render to block light/cast shadows

[marble vigil]

I find camera stacking kinda limited for that purpose due to this reason
Personally I prefer viewmodels that are shrinked towards the camera so it's small, and optionally also squashed and moved. Even if it's just shrunk, the shadows will look pretty much right.
Another option is to use the render objects render feature to manually control the render order of objects. With that one the scale is correct but you'll still get weird behaviour when pushing through walls so you may want to combine this one with the moving and squashing to avoid obstacles

I prefer the shrinking option though, simple and so far worked perfectly well

[thin spire]

Baked lighting. As I move camera around, white flashes appear. What is causing this

[marble vigil]

Messed up values produced by the shader

Which shader is it?

You can see a black pixel in the middle of the flash, that's a sign of a NaN value that throws off bloom

[storm pebble]

prob a basic issue but i imported a character from the asset store but all the materials are pink and are based on a shader
How can i fix this?

[marble vigil]

Either that shader is made for the built-in render pipeline, or you don't have URP installed and configured
Probably don't have Shader Graph either

[storm pebble]

managed to just manually set it up w/out the shader
ty

[opaque rune]

guys i am using transparent materials on my mesh

an this is happening

i dont want it to do this everytime

it looks like theres a face orientation problem

but it has not

[marble vigil]

Use opaque instead
Transparent meshes have much more limited depth sorting, so only surfaces that need to be explicitly semitransparent should have a transparent material

[opaque rune]

i have a fade script using transparent materials. so i cant use opaque. But i figured it out. its happening because the mesh inside it. I Destroyed it.

[marble vigil]

It will basically always happen, if your mesh has any polygons that overlap from the camera's point of view
Games don't do that type of fading effect using transparency alone

Old games used to swap to a transparent material for the duration of the fading, and you see the same problem there

You'll need some workaround

[opaque rune]

hmm this seems logical

[placid laurel]

I have a question

I’m trying to use screen spaced reflections in urp but I realized that doesn’t work, and reflection probes won’t cut it, because the reflections don’t always line up with the object. Any way I can make just some reflections that work with urp? And not a reflection probe? I’m kinda new to unity

I also suck at shaders

[marble vigil]

URP can do SSR, but it's not implemented by default
The brand new URP sample scenes implement it, but it's undocumented
There are custom solutions on github among other places, but if you want one that's simple to set up you may want to get one from the Asset Store

[placid laurel]

Thanks, I tried one from the asset store and it’s not working for some reason, is there anything I absolutely need for it to work? It doesn’t specify requirements on the package page. And I looked through quality settings and all that, I also activated the “custom reflections” through post processing and it’s all custom.

[marble vigil]

Dunno, depends on the asset

[placid laurel]

Ok, I slept on it and I’m gonna give some other things a try

[placid laurel]

even the demo scene wont work.

hold on i found some hidden ass instructions

yeh thanks for ur help

[fresh fossil]

Was wondering if there's a reason RenderingLayerMask doesn't seem to be exposed as a filter on a custom RenderObjects feature, only the LayerMask. I am in a situation where I am running out of gameobject layers to use for rendering effects and would love to make use of the RenderingLayerMask, without having to create my own custom RendererFeature and Pass in code.

[placid laurel]

I am not that skilled.

Sorry

[torpid matrix]

I upgraded from Unity 21 to 22 and now my polybrush tool doesn't work anymore. Can anyone help? its in urp

[delicate tulip]

Greetings

I am working with URP for Light2D module for my 2D game and I am facing heavy optimization issues. I have one shadow casting and multiple not shadow casting spotlights. I am having 40-55 fps on movement and ~200 on full screen UI or after some idling. Deep profiling hinted that shadow casting made around 80% of total CPU loadout which is Not Great. I tried optimizing URP settings e.g. shortening shadows length, making a lot of stuff static and disabling a lot of options but I squeezed only around 5 frames out of it.

What should I do to optimize Light2D shadows? I am using tilemap with custom tile colliders and composer for them to cast shadows.

Picrelated - CPU in pain from deep profiling (enabled after spike)

[fresh fossil]

Was wondering if there's a reason

[marble vigil]

Deep profiling is usually meant for getting precise data about how costly specific function calls in your own scripts are, rather than general performance
Have you tried generally profiling CPU and GPU use in build?

[delicate tulip]

I did. it is mostly CPU that is noticeably loaded, specifically by ShadowCaster stuff. Specifically when it has to recalculate shadows after character movement. All this takes around 80% of general load of the project

I also get occasional memory leaks from Light2D (I haven't touched the source code), if that may somehow impact performance aswell.

For a test I disabled shadow casters on objects and it is ~120 fps again, so its definitely shadows making trouble.

Maybe enabling/disabling it when the object appears on a screen may easen the load?

Yeah it worked lmao

Simple occlusion fixed the issue and i have both shadows and smooth fps

[marble vigil]

Interesting, what do you mean by "simple occlusion" exactly?

[delicate tulip]

Simplest script, that enables and disables Shadow Caster component in OnBecameVisible/OnBecameInvisible methods

[opaque plume]

Does anyone know a working volumetric fog shader?

all the free ones i've found online are a bit of a mess

[small slate]

hello everyone. I downloaded the samples from Unity in Unity Hub. I want do explore URP.
So when I open this template I got this effect. Is this normal? I change nothing, this is example from Unity

there is strange noise effect with shadows. In editor and playmode

is this normal? or I have something bad with my PC?
Unity ver: 2022.3.16f1

[jolly quail]

SSAO

you can try to turn it off

or change the value

[small slate]

where I can find this option?

[jolly quail]

Universal RP

[deep quail]

In URP Settings data

[small slate]

so turning this off helps but then why unity makes this on?

making a very small intensity still makes this noises

so how to use SSAO then?

[deep quail]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.universal@17.0/manual/post-processing-ssao.html

[small slate]

maybe I will ask in other way: Unity makes this settings in their template. So these noises was because of my PC, or they make mistake in setting up this thing? I assume that they know what they are doing so what cause this problem.
I will ready link thank you 🙂 I'm also watching tutorial, and people don't have this problem in this template

[deep quail]

this noise is of such quality because the calculation requires more computing power than you think. This is simply to save computer resources - after compiling the SSAO project, the quality will be better, but not perfect because the principle of operation is based on noise.

[hoary tundra]

Anyone has any idea about that?

[static shoal]

Something weird I've noticed is that when I don't use the URP template, and instead convert my existing project to URP, I don't see all the different renderer assets in my settings folder. Only when I use the template do I have the high fidelity renderer assets and other ones. Are they just located somewhere other than in the settings folder? I'm following a tutorial that requires me to find the high quality renderer asset and modify it, but I don't see it anywhere. The screenshot shows the assets that are normally in the settings folder with the URP template, but which do not exist in my settings when I install URP manually. Anyone have any clue where to look?

[clear goblet]

Anyway to set the render res per camera in urp?

Not talking about a render texture

[ripe shale]

I've just updated my project to 2023.2 and my decals are bouncing/flickering when the camera translates across the y-axis, I can't fathom why this is?! This also happens in a basic test project I setup when I set the rendering path to deferred (which my project is). Is there any workaround for this (I'll report it to Unity ofc)

This only happens in DBuffer mode (which I need to use).

[nova bear]

Yeah sounds like a bug. Surprised no one else found it yet though.

Send a bug report and maybe make a thread on the forums. Also check if it's still happening in the 2023.3 beta. They might have already fixed it

[static shoal]

Thanks!

[opaque plume]

eh screw those volumetric fog assets

i now resorted to simply using the built in fog and creating a custom sky texture in substance painter, that blends with the fog color

works pretty good too, really makes this underwater space feel infinite https://thane5.itch.io/abgrund

and the performance is also ten times better lol

[hoary tundra]

Looks like URP upgrade guide documentation is horribly wrong. Does anyone know how to get around this problem?

https://forum.unity.com/threads/rendererfeature-shader-got-broken-after-upgrading-to-unity-2023-2-2.1536004/#post-9588508

[strong hill]

Does anyone know why if I use a cube and put the shader Universal render pipline/2D/sprite-lit/default the cube is transparent?

[haughty garnet]

2D revolves around transparency because how of it's made with the intentions of sorting through the transparent rendering queue

you can force what is render first/last through the sorting layers

which is specifically to transparents

[strong hill]

Can I do that in code? I want the top to render first, then the back, then the front, bottom, and sides. I changed the UVs in code in both examples, I just want it to look like the bottom picture

[haughty garnet]

you can do it right on the spriterender which is what you're using I assume

[strong hill]

I'm not using a sprite renderer

[haughty garnet]

what are you using

if you're going to use meshes then use opaque shaders

2D is specific to spriterenders

well, what you're doing there is sorting by pivot because of how transparency works, so you can maybe figure it out with placement (assuming you lock the camera) otherwise change the sorting queue priority

another thing too is if you're planning on making a bunch of independent voxels like that then you're going to run into performance issues

You can change the priority via material, but I think the sorting group component may work. I'm not too sure

[strong hill]

I'm just using 1 sprite sheet for that cube and changing the uvs to read it as it says in the sprite sheet so it renders 1 32x32 per side of the cube

[haughty garnet]

drawcalls are the problem and you'll run into that issue without chunking

[strong hill]

I'm not rewriting the uvs constantly

[haughty garnet]

srp batcher may help a bit, but it'll eventually add up

[strong hill]

I just have like 10 cubes out for testing

I'll worry about anything later, but I don't want to worry about that if I can't get it to work how I want it to work

[marble vigil]

The cameras have a renderer list that can select from current urp asset's renderer list, though maybe you found it already

I doubt you'll be able to sort geometry with sprite shaders in 3D space effectively, as they're really not built for that
Does it make sense to use 2D lighting with 3D geometry?

[marble vigil]

In my tests SRP batcher shrugs off draw calls like they're nothing, probably because it's designed just for that
I think sprite shaders (or sprite renderers?) haven't got SRP batching until newer Unity versions though

[haughty garnet]

Yeah, it would probably be fine assuming they are all static flagged at editor time. I'd expect there's some more overhead when it comes to culling many individual meshes like that instead of culling per chunk basis, but that's something I'll have to profile.

SpriteRender is purely dynamic batching though like you were saying, though I've not heard anything about any changes in the newer versions. (Tilemap, which I've not looked much into, probably does do additional operations though)

[clear goblet]

Sure but the render scale is in the srp asset not the renderer

[strong hill]

Thanks, I just wanted to see what I could do for fun. I'd have to write my own shader probably for thingies I want

[pulsar sandal]

Is here where I can pray to the graphShaders gods to help me undertand this cursed art?

Cause I am trying to follow a tutorial to create a screen postprocesing shader and evertything works but is somehow affecting only half the screen

The tutorial in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGEz8oKyMpY

My "adapted slightly shaderGraph"

The result

It only works in one half I not even the same half all the time wtf?

If I am not mistaken this should return the entire screen on itselft right?

If I connect it to the main output, it shows me in the preview that it should be all yellow

Well, the result is only applying to half the screen

WHY?!

[marble vigil]

Oh I thought "renderer res" might've been a typo of renderers
I'd also like to know if render scale per camera is an option

[clear goblet]

Not really showed by my reseaachr

[sharp rock]

I'm using URP for post processing. I'm applying a global volume to the scene, which includes chromatic aberration and color adjustment, but no matter what I do the color adjustment will override the chromatic aberration.

ie. color adjustment removes all saturation of the scene, making chromatic aberration virtually useless as it also loses the saturation

I have even set two separated volumes, also messed around with priorities, but I don't seem to be able to fix it

the chromatic aberration is there, but colorless

how do you asign different volumes to different cameras?

[brave anchor]

Hey a quick question, I just noticed if I had 10 objects with the Line Renderer Component on the scene, even if they have same materials (but transparent), they will use separate draw calls each, plus a GrabRenderTexture thing. This hits performance like a truck (specially if you had more than 10, let's say 100 objects...).
Can someone explain to me, what are these and why only transparent materials are like this and if there are ways to circumvent this. Is it even related to Line Renderers or any mesh with transparent material behaves like this?

[marble vigil]

What shader are these using?

[brave anchor]

@marble vigil Now that I have looked into the shader, I immediately noticed the problem and also what is this Grab thing (GrapPass?) I changed the shader and now it's working properly. I think I've downloaded this shader a while ago and had it on the object without double checking that it's not an efficient shader...

[marble vigil]

From what I hear URP doesn't support grabpass, so if you can somehow force it to work I doubt it can work well

And from what I know it's not a cheap operation anyway

[brave anchor]

while we're at it, do you know how to feed the exact frame from profiler to the frame debugger? That specific frame that I want is hard to manually stop the player for that frame

[buoyant flame]

Is there a way to fix shadow flicking in URP?

[marble vigil]

I think both profilers indicate the frame number you're looking at or let you select one? I don't recall fully
Another option might be to use Debug.Break() to pause Play mode from a script at a specific time

[marble vigil]

This looks like a problem with LOD models or with how the tree meshes choose to display them, but not sure more specifically than that

It looks like it might be happening to the visual tree meshes also, but if it happens just to the shadow caster tree meshes then it may be related to shadow distance settings

[buoyant flame]

the problem was it only happen on player, not on editor

[marble vigil]

Whenever that happens you'll want to check that the quality tier that's selected in the editor is also set as the default for that build platform

If they differ and one of them has issues, the issues only happen in one and not the other

[buoyant flame]

This is what i used

I just want to make cinematic for my assigment

[marble vigil]

Looks like they match so there shouldn't be an issue there
If you haven't upgraded to URP after creating the project, the settings should be fine
It's a p roblem that I haven't seen before unfortunately
My hunch is that it has something to do with how your tree LODs are calculated, which is a part of Terrain settings if you're using Terrain for the foliage

[buoyant flame]

I use speedtrees and this is my terrain configuraiton

I wonder if this matter, but I need the far away model look good and detail

as I already use depth of field and other thing

I guess I'm gonna use Unity Recorder instead

[marble vigil]

There's a warning there that SpeedTree trees are unaffected by Terrain's LOD settings, and to use the LOD group component instead

As it's definitely an issue with the wrong LOD levels flickering in and out, that could be pointing you to the right direction

[buoyant flame]

yeah... this is weird as only happen in player mode

but playing in studio has no problem

[sharp rock]

there is something pissing me off beyond comprehension with camera stacking

probably my ignorance but when trying to use an overlay camera to separate post applied to the UI from the one applied to the world scene I stop being able to interact with the world

I have OnMouseEnter event system type methods used in objects from the world scene, but for some reason they will only work again if I add the layer where the world objects are to the UI overlay camera

[marble vigil]

I think when using UI with multiple cameras you need to determine the "event camera" in some way

[sharp rock]

@marble vigil @young escarp I'm not versed at all in coding nor unity backend so I will just report what happened.
As I said I had some event system methods such as OnMouseEnter and OnMouseExit assigned to sprites with their respective 2d collider in a World Space canvas. When trying to separate post processing volumes for the UI and the world using camera stacking the UI camera would prevent any, in this very specific context, mouse interaction with world.
I tried not using camera stacking, just base cameras, which is giving the same results anyways, but I noticed overlay cameras don't get to chose their background type, but do inherit it when switching from base to overlay. I made UI camera background be uninitialized, and now everything is working fine, be it as base camera or overlay camera.

and yes, I don't seem to be able to apply entirely separate post processing effects to UI and world, UI will stack with world in world camera, meaning that if I desaturate UI so does world but not vice versa

not fluent in English but as far as I can see this tutorial does separate post processing effects

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmCjPctKkjw&ab_channel=Unity

It just rather briefly showcase than actually explain how camera stacking works, and the source is too messy for a newbie like me to reverse engineer

[marble vigil]

So, OnMouse events work now with the camera background swapped?

[sharp rock]

yee, I couldn't tell because overlay cameras just inherit their background type

from when they were base, before switching to overlay

[marble vigil]

Each camera can have its own post processing, but each one of them will include everything rendered up to that point, including post processing of lower cameras
Maybe that's what you're saying here
It's somewhat misleading but it does make sense

[sharp rock]

yeah, I just noticed when she toggles the volume for the cockpit, that includes a strong bloom, the whole scene is affected, duh, I thought she was actually separating cockpit post from world post

thanks for everything to you both! ^^

[deft veldt]

How to write custom motion vectors?

[main sluice]

is Volumetric fog a thing on URP?

[marble vigil]

Not officially
Probably there are some assets on the store that can do it
You can also get some local fog effects with the help of shaders, but probably not the type that reacts to shadows

[main sluice]

Hmm, i mean i wanted something like Lethal Company, i like how that game plays with Volumetric Fog, Now i see why it uses the HRP instead of URP
is official Volumetric fog ever going to be a thing on URP?

[strong aspen]

yeah volumetric fog is on the URP roadmap

[main sluice]

maybe in future versions, i wanna keep on 2021.X

[strong aspen]

volumetrics in URP are most likely going to be after unity 6

[small slate]

I had exatcly the same problem on HDRP. Try to turn off static on these gameobject. I know this one help, but I dont know the issue here

Did you resolve this problem in other way?

[tender flame]

I have a remote ContentArchive from which I'm loading a Scene that has Adaptive Probe Volume, but the lighting doesn't work. Is this not supported? (Similar workflow with LightProbeGroup had no issues)

[cloud night]

Hi, I have a small "open world" scene, and I have some interiors, how could I make it so the interiors ar completly dark? I found in the forum some techniques for HDRP with the Indirect Lighting Controller, but we don't have anything like that in URP, so how could I do it then?

[marble vigil]

You have two things to worry about: reflection probes and ambient probes
The simplest way to get it done is to do the baked lighting workflow, but the downside is that it may be overkill and somewhat limiting

Lightmaps take space, may be tricky to get working right and force things to be static
URP has gotten adaptive probe volumes recently so they could be a compromise

If you want to avoid baking lighting, you can also try to add only the probes manually

Reflection probes work fine without generating lighting, but ambient probes (or "light probe groups" in this context) have no interface to set them up without generating

But you can still read and write light probe data using scripts, so you end up with something like Indirect Lighting Override Controller, but with even more flexibility

[tulip dew]

the above shader doesnt render on android devices

not sure why

[marble vigil]

TMP also has font shaders named "mobile", so maybe those work better on mobile devices

[tulip dew]

but that isnt compatible with URP right?

one sec

A BatchDrawCommand is using a pass from the shader "TextMeshPro/Mobile/Distance Field SSD" that is not SRP Batcher compatible. Reason: "Material property is found in another cbuffer than "UnityPerMaterial""

[marble vigil]

SRP batcher incompatible doesn't mean SRP or URP incompatible

[tulip dew]

oh im using it in ECS

is that the reason?

[marble vigil]

No idea about ECS really

[tulip dew]

alright will ask over there

ty

[marble vigil]

In my URP project TMP texts default to using "TextMeshPro/Mobile/Distance Field" shader

2021.3. project specifically, might have changed later

@tulip dew Still, you could make a test build with the "mobile" shader (or many if there are several)

[tulip dew]

true

will try that

[long wraith]

Hi! I really like the effect of volumetric fog, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En-VjBjto_U
But I think it's overkill for me to use HDRP for my low poly project. Is there an easy way achieve similar effect in URP? I want some haze to cover the ground in my scene. (not the fog settings! not the effect i want) I dont need it to look nearly as good as HDRP.

Im guessing this is somewhat achieveable with a shader and some noise, but not sure where to start.

[marble vigil]

Indeed, using shaders with scene depth and some math you can get much more convincing effects compared to scene fog
Though still very limited to compared any "real" volumetric fog systems

[hot garden]

Hi, I have problem with decals, I want to render them only on one of cameras

[marble vigil]

You can define a Renderer per camera, so you could have a renderer with decals and one without

[dense stag]

Hi guys, I have two scenes loaded at the same time with LoadSceneMode.Additive, each scene has a camera in it but i want each camera to only see the things in its respective scene, right now everything is visible at the same time to all cameras. How can I fix this? I am very new to unity

[ancient crown]

I also have a problem with decals, I want to render some of the decals by particular camera and other decal by different camera. These decals sometimes render on the top of the same gameObject. Unfortunately, neither layer of gameobject with decal projector and layer of gameObject with meshRenderer on which decal is projected, can influance decal culling. Is there any way to specify which decals should be rendered by which camera?

[ocean hinge]

Unity 2023 has new layers special for decals. Maybe these will help you.

[marble vigil]

I'm thinking that too, but from the description it seems they're layers to mask affected objects, not cameras

[ancient crown]

Yeah, thats the problem :/

[vagrant knoll]

I have a problem with _CameraDepthTexture I can not explain.. I'm trying to get soft particles to work. I started with the URP particle shader, it didn't work.

I made my own using a shader graph with a SceneDepthDifference node, but it is all white.

I checked the frame debugger, and the texture is bound and seems to have valid input, yet my fullscreen effect is completely white (in particle shader) or black (in fullscreen shader) when using the node..

[fickle solar]

Hey all i have urp on and i added baked lighting and the scene is super dark any ideas?

[ocean hinge]

Add lights ^^

[vagrant knoll]

I think I misunderstood the "default" and "pixel" parameters of the screen space position; with default and converting to linear01, things do more or less what they should now (though I suspect there was also a bug due to a custom render pipeline ^^)

[strong aspen]

its more blinding then dark, decrease the amount of bloom and that red light is also way too intense, play around with the indirect intensity of the light to brighten the room up more, and mess arround with exposure

[swift pond]

How to make this ?

shader

[ocean hinge]

It feels like this is close to impossible or would need a huge amount of time to do this with a shader 😄

[blazing gull]

What is the point of the "Scriptable Render Pipeline Settings" field in the Graphics section of the project settings?

It's not the currently-active quality settings (that's determined in the Quality menu)

Clearing the field doesn't seem to change anything.

I get a warning when I change the field, so it sounds like this should matter...

All of the settings in the Graphics menu are project-wide; they don't care about which asset is selected at all

[fickle solar]

Thanks

Yeah I’ve already decreased red sign brightness was an old screenie

[fickle solar]

wait where do i change indirect intesity in directional light?

[strong aspen]

in the same place you do with every light

[fickle solar]

Aghh the before one looks a lot brighter any ideas?

[strong aspen]

turn down the indirect lighting brightness

or exposure or other PP effects

[keen hearth]

i saw some post on the forum about really long build time and this is the first time that happen to me, but i don't get how to fix this, any help?
Should i just wait and hope that with the cached shaders it will go much faster?

[half relic]

Hi all. This is kinda a broad question but, anyways
I'm scoping down my project's graphics from 3D to 2D topdown pixel. Altho i don't plan to focus on graphics, it still needs polish, and wondering what kinda features are reasonable/recomended to aim for and what should just be avoided. Things like topdown water reflection, certain post processing, day/night, highlights, obstruction(or don't have obstructing tall buildings at all?), etc
Cheers!

[proud beacon]

Is there any way to make the shadow fall nicely?

[ocean hinge]

What do you mean with nicely!

[ocean hinge]

You mean that jaggedness in the corners? That looks light shadow Acne and can be solved by changing the shadow bias in the light source.

[upbeat sonnet]

Another thing you might be able to do -- that looks like a first person weapon -- is make a directional light that only effects the first person layer and nothing else

im pretty sure itll work but haven't proved it out

since the shadowmap resolution will be fitted to the fps view model instead of the world

[proud beacon]

How do you change it?

[ocean hinge]

By changing it in the light source ^^

@proud beacon

[proud beacon]

in the sun? I don't think that's what

[ocean hinge]

Sun? I guess it’s a directional light?

[proud beacon]

is the sun

[ocean hinge]

There is no „sun“ light component in URP

You have directional, point, area and so on.

And they have a shadow bias slider that you can adjust

[proud beacon]

I found it, thank you

[ocean hinge]

The bias can be adjusted for each light individually, if you change it in the dropdown there

[swift pond]

Thx guys

[high holly]

I recently upgraded a project to urp so a unity asset model would work but now materials are purple do I make new materials or can I upgrade them or what. Hope someone can help

[marble vigil]

Unity's own shaders can be upgraded from BiRP to URP
See pinned instructions

[high holly]

What pinned instructions?

[marble vigil]

The pin icon on this channel

[unkempt crypt]

Should I be worried that world grid disappears behind the transparent part of the object?

[high holly]

Oh thank you very much

[marble vigil]

While I'd never waste a stray opportunity to worry it's probably an inconsequential editor bug, as long as you don't get similar weirdness when viewing the material against other "transparent" materials

[full magnet]

Im picking back up on a VR project I was working on 2 years ago. Back then I'm pretty sure URP would give worse performance than BRP for VR (i cant remember why). Is this still true? or do more people use URP for VR now?

[ocean hinge]

URP is best ❤️

[full magnet]

noted, thanks

[ocean hinge]

for VR (especcially if you go for Quest 3 etc.) URP is the way to go.

[full magnet]

ok thanks man. hopefully switching isnt too bad?

[ocean hinge]

Never did it. Its possible but may bring some problems with it.

[full magnet]

any specific unity version I should upgarde to?

or just the latest

[ocean hinge]

Some LTS Version if you need continuing support for years.
If not, just go for the latest, yeah.

[full magnet]

ok got it

[brave anchor]

So I have 5 objects, 4 of them use same mesh and material, and one of them use another one. In Frame Debugger I noticed 2 of those 4 same objects draw in a single call, then the different one, and then two remaining ones use another draw call, in total 3. I disabled the different one and all of those 4 objects only used 1 draw call. So if the different one was in the middle of those same ones, it would divide the draw calls.

My questions is now, how can I make sure those are in the correct order, so same meshes/materials are followed so they would use a single draw call?

[ocean hinge]

Means you have 2 meshes and 2 materials?
That should result in 4 Drawcalls

[brave anchor]

no, there are 5 items, 4 of them are identical (same mesh and material) and the other one uses another material.

theoretically it should use 2 draw call, 1 for 4 identical ones, and another one for the other one

[ocean hinge]

yeah, but the materials need 1 draw call each, too

[brave anchor]

no if you don't use MaterialPropertyBlocks

This is how I optimized things already, I had similar health bars for 10 unites, all of them use only 1 draw call (as long as they are same health)

[ocean hinge]

https://thegamedev.guru/unity-performance/draw-call-optimization/#wait-whats-a-draw-call

Maybe this helps

[brave anchor]

Thanks, I'll take a look

[nimble panther]

Hello, Im running into an issue with mixed lights and im not sure what I need to do to fix it.

As you can see the arcade machines are black even with the lights set brighter than needed, I have turned the generate lightmaps in the objects settings but im still not sure what else needs to change

[marble vigil]

Mixed lights are subject to realtime light limit per mesh object

[nimble panther]

so would it work better as purely baked lights?

[ocean hinge]

You could split all machines into seperate meshes, which would be the expensive way to do, or just bake the lights competly.
If the Machines have to be dynamic, you can use lightprobes to light them up.

[marble vigil]

With fully baked you get very limited shadows and specular reflections, but it would work
In addition to slicing meshes and limiting light ranges there's also Forward+ and Deferred rendering paths that aim to fix this for realtime lighting

[marble vigil]

What's expensive about splitting meshes?

[ocean hinge]

Possibly more drawcalls if they don’t get batched well

[marble vigil]

SRP batching is super robust, you have to try pretty hard to give it a challenge

Merely splitting a mesh without requiring any new material properties or different shaders is practically free

[ocean hinge]

also if the mesh is not 1:1 the same?

[marble vigil]

Shape doesn't matter, it doesn't work the same as GPU instancing

In my tests SRP batching handles better meshes that are different than GPU instancing handles the same number of identical meshes

Materials using a different shader can't be batched, however

But that's true for all types

[orchid haven]

Hi all, experiencing FPS drops when my character controller is standing adjacent to and looking at any wall.
I've tried disabling fog and the global post-process volume as well as tried increasing my camera's clipping plane past default, and the meshes within the scene don't have millions of vertices.
The picture attached shows significant renderer spikes as well as "Other" when moving close to the wall, any ideas what could be causing this?

[marble vigil]

Is there something behind the wall? Are you using occlusion culling? What shader does the wall have?

[orchid haven]

Nothing at all behind the wall, material is just URP standard with a 2048 x 1024 texture

And no occlusion culling, as the project was only started yesterday

[nimble panther]

Im using differed rendering path but im not using realtime lighting due to the lights leaking into other rooms

I was hoping baking the lights would allow me to separate my rooms lighting better

[quiet dawn]

hey what is the difference between ssao - blue noise and interleaved gradient. The official documentation says that blue noise is dynamic while interleaved gradient is static. After some quick testing, it looks like interleaved gradient is also dynamic, am I wrong?

[marble vigil]

Mixed lights are realtime, but they are also included in baking, hence the name
They basically have the highest cost and most of the downsides of both types, but the highest visual quality

Realtime lights will not illuminate through walls if shadow casting is enabled, but that's relatively expensive even with deferred rendering

Fully baked lights have basically no realtime render cost, even with shadows
But as mentioned previously shadow casting and specularity have limitations

[nimble panther]

Hmm, ok I think Ill use a mix of realtime and baked, although I was having an issue where some walls in an adjacent room were being lit up even though there was no light inside The light was purple so I assume the blacklights on the walls were bleeding through

just dont know how

[marble vigil]

First step is to figure out whether it's the realtime lighting or the baked lighting getting through

[nimble panther]

It would be realtime cuz it was doing it when I had everything set to realtime

Would we be able to get into a call so I could show you in more detail

[open phoenix]

I think this question might actually be more about URP.. can any1 see what's up?
#archived-lighting message

[glass beacon]

why does this happen and how do i fix it?

[sharp shell]

Do you by any chance have a pixelation filter on the camera or in post processing ?

or do something resolution related in your code

[glass beacon]

i do actually have a pixelation filter on the camera

[sharp shell]

then now you know why it looks pixelated

or is that not what you mean

OH IM BLIND NEVERMIND

My bad

[glass beacon]

no i meant why does the shadows look weird. the areas with light are supposed to have shadows in them

[sharp shell]

Yeah the sun moves with the camera, maybe thats related to the pixelation filter tho

but i have no clue why the shadows / sun might move with the player, i never had that

[glass beacon]

hmm well alright thanks

[sharp shell]

sorry, thought the pixelation was the error 😅

[glass beacon]

yeah no worries i sent the video more than once so i just forgot to add that in lol

[faint crystal]

Morning guys, I have a question about the number of CustomYieldInstructions I see in the profiler. I am profiling a low end machine running our application. I see these CustomYieldInstrctions after using Coroutine once, its not a repeating Coroutine, but in the profiler it taking up alot by running every frame.

Is there anything I can do to reduce this, I haven't found anything useful using google.

[marble vigil]

That's why you have to specify what the issue is exactly

Check out the near plane setting of the directional light and try tweaking it

[faint crystal]

Did i post this in the wrong thread? If so where should i have posted it?

[faint crystal]

I've managed to solve the issue, initially it was a coroutine that was waiting for too long, and started to get stacked, because of how i was running a particular test. Which meant it never terminated.

[glass beacon]

alright cool thanks.

[mighty cargo]

Question regarding Material Variants, but is it possible to change a variants parent during runtime?

[ocean hinge]

Can you explain why you want to do that?

[deep quail]

Anyone encountered this problem while clicking Game View ?

[normal orbit]

which unity version has shadergraph support to post process effects?

[marble vigil]

All of them unofficially
Officially 2022.3.
But in my experience the official method is not better in any way

Maybe not worse either

[normal orbit]

how do you create a post process the unofficial way?

using shader graph uh, not ASE

[marble vigil]

Unofficial (and official)

[normal orbit]

thanks!

you've used unreal?

[marble vigil]

Very little long ago

[sudden oxide]

Hello, I have quite a problem with transparent materials and camera overlays, the camera handling the weapon rendering seems to be causing transparent materials to render on top of everything else, I'd really like to keep these fake volumetrics however this problem is making that impossible
I'm using URP and Unity 2021.3.30f1

The objects are not being rendered in the weapon camera as they are on a different layer, the weapon camera also has a different FOV from the main camera and the objects being rendered on top are in their correct position in the camera

[calm thorn]

hey guys!! Everytime I create a 3dURP project or even just install urp I get this weird error-"Library\PackageCache\com.unity.shadergraph@14.0.8\Editor\Generation\Targets\BuiltIn\Editor\ShaderGUI\MaterialAssemblyReference\RawRenderQueue.cs(12,24): error CS1061: 'Material' does not contain a definition for 'rawRenderQueue' and no accessible extension method 'rawRenderQueue' accepting a first argument of type 'Material' could be found"

Im not sure what to do!! Its been happening for about 12 days and Its getting annoying. anyone have solutions

I have reinstalled unity and have also tried different versions

[static shoal]

As soon as I checked enable depth and opaque texture on my rendering asset, my entire material went white, and there appeared to be a copy of my object inside the material itself. What causes this?

[marble vigil]

That is odd
It may help to reinstall the Hub as well as it keeps track of the template and editor installations, so if something's gone wrong there, the problem may propagate to projects

[marble vigil]

What kind of material is it, your own shader perhaps?

[static shoal]

I think the material thing was a glitch because now the object doesn't show up inside it. The shader is a URP lit water shader that I'm following a tutorial for, but I think my project file is just broken because the same shader works in a new URP template project that is using the high fidelity render asset (my other project doesn't have that).

[static shoal]

new question, is there a reason why 'Rendering' does not show up in my menu when I go to create a new rendering asset? This is for a brand new AR Core template project. Should be right below Input Actions but that is the final thing in my dropdown.

[static shoal]

Thank you. I have reinstalled the Hub recently

[calm thorn]

I did reinstall everything of unity. The versions the hub everything. it’s so weird

[sudden oxide]

Please if anyone is able to help me here I'd be very grateful, it's driving me nuts

[ocean hinge]

i can not really see what you mean in your screenshots

[sudden oxide]

Maybe it's clearer with this one

I have a cone with a transparent material to fake a volumetric

And im using a camera stack to render the player weapon on top of everything else
The cone is not set to render in this weapon camera, however whenever it's active it causes these transparent materials to be rendered on top of everything

It causes this to any transparent material I use

[marble vigil]

Are you triple sure those objects are being excluded from the overlay camera? Using any renderer features?

[sudden oxide]

They're in their own viewlayer

This is the viewlayer the lightcones are in

This is the weapon camera's culling mask

[marble vigil]

It appears here that the Layer of the LightCone prefab is overridden locally

Make sure the base prefab and all of the instances have that layer too

[sudden oxide]

They are all set to the correct layer

[wispy drum]

Hello! I've changed my unity editor of the project I'm working on, from 2019.4.31f1 to 2022.3.19f1 , reimported the materials, the game plays ok but all the light and bloom is gone. All I'm left with is a weird point light

and the game looked like this on 2019

Any help is appreciated

[dry willow]

Regarding the bloom, if the 2019 project uses the "Post Processing" package that is no longer compatible with URP, you'll need to recreate the effects using URP's Volume system
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.universal@17.0/manual/integration-with-post-processing.html

[wispy drum]

what do you mean by recreating the effects? New shaders for every material in the game?

[dry willow]

No, I mean just creating a new post processing volume with bloom and any other effects you had previously, but using the URP "Volume" object, not the ones in the old PP package

[wispy drum]

I see

can you please guide me?

[dry willow]

The docs link I posted above has info

[wispy drum]

should I delete what I currently have?

ok..

thanks

[calm thorn]

Anyonw know????

I dont know what to dooo lol

[undone fiber]

have you tried to make the project first and then install the urp package manually?
I remember having this problem which I didn't know why it was happening, but to deal with it I just needed to setup the urp manually and everything went fine
you can deal with it that way until you find the solution

[calm thorn]

I have but ill give it another try

thankyou for helping

[undone fiber]

btw what is the version you are using?

[calm thorn]

currently 2022.3.6f1

[undone fiber]

alright, hope this solution works fine with you

[calm thorn]

Still hapening sadly

[smoky anchor]

Does anyone know what's causing these line artifacts when viewing a material at an angle? I'm on an M2 macbook, maybe the shaders are messed up? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/497872424281440267/1202912493886767194/materialArtifacts.mov?ex=65cf2e8f&is=65bcb98f&hm=f7b9041e212bc721623306635f7353fc90d31b7d18502ed33a66585969b208f4&

It also appear faintly in builds

[static shoal]

This may be a weird question, but why is it that the high fidelity URP rendering asset is only available to me when I choose the URP template? If I try to switch to URP in non-URP project, it creates 'new URP asset' but high fidelity is not there?

[marble vigil]

There's nothing fundamentally different between those besides the name, and settings within
Template includes a few preset assets for different quality levels, but when upgrading you make them by yourself

[sudden oxide]

ultimately decided to try and change the project back to built-in pipeline and it works so no more urp for this project i guess

[marble vigil]

I'd rather swap overlay camera for a different viewmodel technique before swapping the whole render pipeline

But it might not be a big deal in your case

[sudden oxide]

What other options are there
Built-in has this "clear flags" option which lets you render a camera on top of others but i cant find this option in urp

But yeah at the end of the day whether im using URP or not is not a big deal

[marble vigil]

On urp that's the same as setting the camera background as uninitialized and adding it to the camera stack

[sudden oxide]

Well yeah the problem is I cannot use the camera stack cuz it bugs out my transparent materials

Anyway the projects look virtually the same whether it's URP or Built-in so im just gonna stick to built-in for this

[marble vigil]

Camera stacking for that purpose has issues with shadow casting and post processing so it wouldn't be my first or second option
I'd rather use Render Objects feature which is very well suited for that purpose
Or just shrink the mesh towards camera using a parent transform at the camera's position so it's out of the way, and you can also fake the FoV change simply by doing scaling

[sudden oxide]

I did think of shooting a raycast forward and playing a simple animation to avoid clipping but ultimately this is the easiest solution

Ill keep it mind for the future

[marble vigil]

You can combine that with any of* the other two, and it makes them even more seamless

[sudden oxide]

Im on a deadline for this project so I won't be looking into it now, but once it's all finished up I'll see what I can do
I do like when games feature animations to make non-clipping weapons more believable

[calm thorn]

You are super smart on like everything in unity

props to you man

[marble vigil]

heh, thanks ^^ not knowing something feels tedious so I try to avoid it

[quiet dawn]

Bruh, I spent like 30 mins making a simple yet accurate mesh for my gun and it doesnt even work. Why did they remove this feature

[static shoal]

Thank you, that helps to know!
I'm having an issue with my scene where the entire material gets whited out when I turn on 'depth' and 'opaque' texture on my rendering asset. I just went though and mad sure my rendering asset had the exact same settings as the one in the URP template (in which the material works correctly). I can't figure out what it is. This is what my objects' material looks like before and after checking depth and opaque. According to the tutorial, checking on depth and opaque is what's supposed to make the water appear realistic; but in my case the material keeps getting glowed out until the entire object is white.:

[marble vigil]

Enabling depth and opaque textures lets the shader utilize those textures for depth effects and refraction effects
However since you're viewing your water surface against an empty void there are no viable values on those textures

Additionally you might have a problem in the shader, but start by placing the water in the scene with a sky and some ground

[brisk pike]

Hi all. How do I render a layer only to a RenderTexture via a ScriptableRenderFeature without making it visible in the main camera? If my main camera does not include the layer I want to render into the RT, the SRF will not render it at all. If I do include the layer in my camera, the layer will render both into the RT and the display

[brisk pike]

I figured it out for myself. Enable the layer in the camera, disable it in the Opaque and Transparent layer masks in URP Renderer Data

[bitter grove]

Anyone know why this is happening?

These colours are not that colour

it should be way darker like here

but its hella pale for some reason, and it does it across all colours ?

using URP

why colours so washed out

[bitter grove]

Figured it out its setting between Gamma and Linear in player settings

[stray scroll]

does anyone know how to fix tileset textures?

[undone fiber]

I found this thread which seems to have multiple cases https://forum.unity.com/threads/running-into-a-strange-error-with-shader-graph-12-1-6-and-urp-12-1-6-in-unity-2021-2-16f1.1256823/
maybe one of them help you

[trim yacht]

Why is my camera opaque texture 16x16 and looks like this?

Using 2D renderer, shader graph and render objects after rendering transparents

I have enabled opaque texture in the render settings

[finite mantle]

Is this normal ?
In my game, only in editor managed heap is increasing and It is triggering garbage collection which is causing frame drops.
I tested this in an empty URP project and noted same behaviour and in built in render pipeline its not happening.
Unity Version: 2022.3.11f1

[reef flame]

Does URP not have any shadow cascade blending... ?

[finite mantle]

shadow cascade blending ??

[reef flame]

Oh sorry, it's my own question, unrelated to yours

[calm thorn]

Thankyou for helping! It finally fixed!!!!

[undone fiber]

Awesome!!
may I ask which one exactly solved it?
I want to know what was the problem exactly

[calm thorn]

I was only uninstalling unity hub not the versions. once i realized that i just uninstalled everything then reinstalled and BOOM fixxed. Im so happy

[undone fiber]

Congrats, glad that helped you

[iron compass]

Correct (in 2022)

[next helm]

this sounds like a dumb idea but I have been wondering if it would be faster to not render any transparency but instead for transparent objects, render half the object's pixels with blue noise or screen door and on the next frame render a different half the object's pixels, and have temporal AA or something to hide or denoise that.

Is there a game that already does this, would this cause ghosting issues, can't find any examples from search.

[hushed dirge]

how do I stop gizmos getting rendered in multiple cameras in a stack?

[marble vigil]

Almost all modern games use this technique in place of real transparency, when applicable
It does cause ghosting issues and looks kind of ugly but it's still preferred
Unity doesn't have any out of the box solution for it, but TAA is there as well as alpha clipping and dithering with shaders

[hearty tundra]

Is it true most of the URP team quit?

[pseudo thorn]

someone name Andy Touch? confirmed it on the forums

[hearty tundra]

Dang. So the only solution for sustainable dev now is to write a custom SRP

[ionic adder]

Hey there, is there a way to make the back faces of an object not appear so washed out, or is that a totally normal thing for video games? I noticed it on all of my double sided objects and for the most part it's fine besides my palm tree where it looks extra strange.

[marble vigil]

not "normal"
It's a quirk of how the default shader does double sidedness, which is to kinda just duplicate the lighting from the other side with weird specularity
Instead of that you'll want to use single-sided materials, but duplicate the geometry and flip the normals
Or make a shader with shader graph to flip the normal when the fragment is being viewed from the back

[ionic adder]

Ah okay, so would that shader graph look something like this?

[marble vigil]

That should do the trick

Except it should be Tangent normal I think

Instead of World

[ionic adder]

Thanks for the suggestion, it worked perfectly! Just had to figure out where it plugs in since that image was from an older Unity version.

[analog sentinel]

can I apply post processing to UI only? can't seem to get it to work, it always effects the background even with specific layermasks set

I have 2 cameras, stacked, MainCam and UICam, base and overlay, each have a volume mask layer and culling layers set to specific layers

[haughty garnet]

maybe try like a world space canvas

and a camera that renders it only

[analog sentinel]

right, I ahve that with camera space, th UI cam is plugged into that

[haughty garnet]

well, that was my best guess

[analog sentinel]

hrm, have you set this up before?

[haughty garnet]

Nah, but googling there's a lot of discussion on it so doesn't sound impossible

[analog sentinel]

I've found a few things that talk about doing it but is just doesn't work

alot of the other stuff that comes up isn't actually whta I'm going for, like, stuff where the background is blurred while in the UI, etc

[echo notch]

hello, anyone knows why my spotlight realtime are only displayed on some cars?

all cars are the same prefab

[cloud mortar]

If you're using the forward rendering mode theres a limit to the number of realtime lights that can affect a single object

Try switching to deffered if you want lots of lights

See here for more info: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.universal@12.0/manual/rendering/deferred-rendering-path.html

[echo notch]

Thank you

[marble vigil]

Not before this feature gets implemented
https://portal.productboard.com/8ufdwj59ehtmsvxenjumxo82/c/2149-post-processing-alpha-preservation-setting

Currently due to this limitation post processing is always per whole rendered image at that point in the render stack

[dense anchor]

URP CommandBuffer Blit

[old violet]

Hey guys, I'm so confused the convert material button in edit > rendering, doesn't appear at all!!

there is no render pipeline menu either.

[marble vigil]

Assuming you're trying to convert project to URP, are you following all the instructions? They can be found in pinned messages

[old violet]

Yes I watched multiple videos and they do the same stuff. I should mention that I upgraded a project from 2020 to 2023 version. There is no render pipeline menu in edit. Only rendering menu which has the same options as render pipeline menu but convert materials does not appear there..

[marble vigil]

Make sure your URP package is also updated
Then follow the instructions in pinned messages, you can also confirm there that the documentation is for your version of the unity editor
Videos are often for different versions than what you have

[old violet]

I've been through all these. It doesn't help. I am on 2023 version and all 2023 are the same I've went through the docs multiple times everything should work but button is missing

[marble vigil]

Did you also try the Render Pipeline Converter that's in Window>Rendering rather than in Edit>Rendering

And just to confirm did you set an URP asset in Project Settings>Graphics

[old violet]

that's the thing both of these futures are missing and I'm 200% sure I did everything right up to that point.

[old violet]

yes of course, went through this process many times already 🙂

[marble vigil]

No idea then
Tbh it's likely easier to make a new 2023 project and export all your gameplay code and assets as an .unitypackage and reconstruct your game there, than to deal with challenges from an upgrade that big

In any case you could make an 2023 URP project and verify the menus are there that you're expecting to see

[old violet]

I see, thank you! do you happen to know plastic scm?

[marble vigil]

No, I use Git

[old violet]

alright, thank you anyway

[wicked pecan]

unity made a statement and said nothing will happen to urp and it will keep getting features like normal.

[viscid talon]

I downgraded from unity 2023.x to Unity 2022.3, now my materials set as Opaque + alpha clipping are glitched. It have to set the material as transparent to avoid this issue. Did anyone face this issue ? (setting the material as unlit also fixes it)

Edit: Solution is to use Universal Render Pipeline/Nature/SpeedTree8_PBRLit shader instead...

[serene current]

in pc web browser

[sleek anvil]

https://gyazo.com/d09fdae6f073f92d8415733f6c935b11
Does anyone know how to fix this? Near clipping plane is at 0.01..

This only happens when the arms are animating too, when they're static they can be viewed just fine by the camera

Figured it out by increasing the skinned mesh renderer's bounds. Not sure if that's going to have any consequences, but it works.

[warped roost]

You can enable "update off screen" to avoid it

[sleek anvil]

Thanks

[opaque sinew]

Anyone have experience writing to the depth texture in 2022/2023? I’m trying to get specific layers that are not on my main opaque filter in my renderer to still render to depth.

[foggy hull]

anyone here experienced in unity urp light bakes?

[strong aspen]

🖐️

[foggy hull]

so this is the scene i am working on,
I am baking lighting in URP workflow,
I don't want the green and blue bins to cash shadow in the ground but still have lighting on it when lightbake is done

[strong aspen]

disable shadows on them then

[foggy hull]

its off i believe

[strong aspen]

that might be ambient occlusion then, hmm

is there a reason you dont want them to cast shadows?

[foggy hull]

yes it will be movable

[strong aspen]

if its movable then why make it static?

[foggy hull]

if i don't do that it looks dull after lightbake

[strong aspen]

so what you want is light probes

[foggy hull]

reflection probe?

[strong aspen]

no

light probes

light probes samples light from the baked lighting and applies it on dynamic objects

[foggy hull]

i don't know about light probes

[strong aspen]

what version of unity are you using?

[foggy hull]

okay makessense

2021.3.5f1

[strong aspen]

damn, in that case you need to use light probe groups, which have to be placed manually

[foggy hull]

is that difficult?

[strong aspen]

no, just very time consuming

if you were using unity 2023, you could have used the adaptive probe volumes which are automatically placed for you and provide better lighting

[foggy hull]

it has to be this version actually

[strong aspen]

if you scene isnt big it wont take too long

just add a light probe group to the scene and start placing

[foggy hull]

its not big actually

anyways man thanks, i know what to look for now

[strong aspen]

👍

[obtuse dragon]

Why does it say there are no cameras for display 1 when there clearly is?

ALl inspectors

[heavy snow]

quick question, i am using the hair simulation(https://learn.unity.com/tutorial/test-the-hair-simulation?uv=2021.2&projectId=635a945cedbc2a39658709de#) and I cant figure out how to change the colours. Could anyone help?