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turbid matrix Jul 10, 2020, 9:43 AM

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@granite grotto there's no docs other that source code and github repo. also worth noting that doing custom stuff like that is hugely time consuming to maintain as internal api does go through bit changes every now and then

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for example a TON changed on 9.x and 10.x shader graph stacks change now

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if you made a master node for say, 7.4.1, you'd have to redo most of it for 10.x

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afaik one of the final goals of the new stacks SG setup is to allow exposing the api also for users but it's realistically several years off atm - if it ever happens

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basically for implementing a master node, your best resource is if you find some recently added new master node and it's PR as you can then tell which all files have changed. but I don't think there's any such happened lately so if you find one, it'll be outdated

granite grotto Jul 10, 2020, 9:48 AM

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@turbid matrix thanks for info. Yep I understand it would be painful to update. I mostly need HDRP for tiled forward's decals. Looks like I should also consider implementing decals for URP

turbid matrix Jul 10, 2020, 9:49 AM

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yes, they have forward decals coming up for URP 🙂

granite grotto Jul 10, 2020, 9:49 AM

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good to know 🙂

turbid matrix Jul 10, 2020, 9:49 AM

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https://portal.productboard.com/unity/1-unity-graphics/c/33-forward-decals

Forward Decals - Unity Graphics

When using decals, you're essentially projecting a drawing onto an object- almost like a sticker. For example, if your image contained a car windshield, you could add a decal to make it appear cracked.

To read more about decals, see:

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it's next in line in planned section

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I don't think I've seen any wip branch for URP decals on the github though, so my assumption would be that they are not yet working on it

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there's few decal solutions for URP tho

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one from Unity staff, but it's not an official thing

granite grotto Jul 10, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Do you have a link by a chance?

turbid matrix Jul 10, 2020, 9:52 AM

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https://github.com/Kink3d/kDecals

GitHub

Kink3d/kDecals

Projection Decals for Unity's Universal Render Pipeline. - Kink3d/kDecals

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he has a lot of other URP extensions there as well

granite grotto Jul 10, 2020, 9:53 AM

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thanks

turbid matrix Jul 10, 2020, 9:53 AM

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https://github.com/Kink3d?tab=repositories has kMotion, kNormals, kMirrors and kShading which all are for URP

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there's also https://github.com/ColinLeung-NiloCat/UnityURPUnlitScreenSpaceDecalShader

GitHub

ColinLeung-NiloCat/UnityURPUnlitScreenSpaceDecalShader

Unity unlit screen space decal shader for URP. Just create a new material using this shader, then assign it to a new unity cube GameObject = DONE, now you have unlit decal working in URP - ColinLeu...

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and I could swear there was even one more unlit decal system for URP

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I couldn't find a link on quick search tho

granite grotto Jul 10, 2020, 9:58 AM

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I saw the second one, it's a bit of headache to add lighting there

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in general I got the direction. thanks a lot!

turbid matrix Jul 10, 2020, 9:59 AM

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np. good luck 🙂

dawn sorrel Jul 10, 2020, 10:58 AM

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i'm using the dither postprocess from this https://github.com/Kodrin/URP-PSX
but the effect is too strong, the 'strength' float in the script doesnt have any other mentions... how can i reduce the opacity of the effect? or can i set it to overlay style or something like you can in photoshop?

GitHub

Kodrin/URP-PSX

PSX retro graphics plugin for URP with Shadergraph in Unity - Kodrin/URP-PSX

turbid matrix Jul 10, 2020, 11:03 AM

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if you have to crosspost, at least link to the channel you originally asked the question at: #💥┃post-processing
/ https://discordapp.com/channels/489222168727519232/497873924504420362/730972486258393154

narrow whale Jul 10, 2020, 1:35 PM

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which rendering pipeline is the best?

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i was thinking urp

scarlet hull Jul 10, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Depends of the needs of your project

fast pumice Jul 10, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Hi, guys. I have run into an issue with URP and android platform. When I check "Opaque texture", i am not able to see world space UI in build (Still see it in editor). I really need opaque texture enabled. any idea what i can do? is it a bug?

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do i need some special material on UI to make it work with opaque texture?

dawn sorrel Jul 10, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Hey there, I need a bit of help to find the best solution.

I want to use shader graph, but I am currently on the default render pipeline. What should I switch to if I don't want to use the new texture system or is there an easy way to use the old textures without modifying them?

rich spade Jul 10, 2020, 6:08 PM

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@dawn sorrel if you want to use a shader graph with default render pipeline there are some on the asset store you can buy to do that.
If you want to use Unities built in shader graph you need to switch to either URP or HDRP.
Unless you are aiming at high end PC's URP is probably your best bet and simplest to get to grips with.
Otherwise choose HDRP 😉

dawn sorrel Jul 10, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I guess I will stick to HDRP then, however last time I was going with HDRP it was using the other texture format, any easy way to use my old textures?

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(at least the materials I got after conversion required those)

rich spade Jul 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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this is why I generally suggest URP as being nearest to standard pipeline in my opinion. You can if I recall generate the textures for new materials within the editor, but it's probably quicker to alter your workflow to accommodate HDRP directly. If you use things like Substance painter / designer you can generate the textures by just remapping your output etc.

dawn sorrel Jul 10, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I see, well thanks a lot for the advice. I guess I will just make couple backups and try both to see what will do the best.

rich spade Jul 10, 2020, 6:21 PM

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would be best way ^^

dawn sorrel Jul 10, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Cool, thank you

scarlet hull Jul 10, 2020, 6:44 PM

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What do you call "old vs new texture system" ?

indigo summit Jul 10, 2020, 6:47 PM

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maybe he talking about the packed texture for MRAO?

rich spade Jul 10, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I assumed he meant this too ^^ but it's bad to assume, just makes an ass of u and me

scarlet hull Jul 10, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Well, if it's only that, it's not a big deal to make a HDRP shader with shadergraph that uses the EXACT same texture inputs as built-in

turbid matrix Jul 10, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I don't quite understand the question either

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like if it's a simply matter of updating from built-in project that uses unity standard shaders... then that's what the material upgrade script is for

rich spade Jul 10, 2020, 7:10 PM

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🤔 HDRP graph to remap inputs. I never considered that, good idea!
But if I went hdrp I would just adjust my workflow, it's only if your not the asset creator it can become a chore I imagine.

scarlet hull Jul 10, 2020, 7:11 PM

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+1 for the upgrader script also

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And I'm not saying that because I made it 😛

dawn sorrel Jul 10, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Oh, I seem to have caused some chaos here, sorry. Yes "Remapping inputs" would be the thing I would look into. I do not have quite enough experience with all this and so I miss some of the correct names for this stuff

turbid matrix Jul 10, 2020, 8:52 PM

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@dawn sorrel what I tried to tell is that there's a material upgrade script that also takes HDRP texture packing into account: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@7.4/manual/Upgrading-To-HDRP.html#upgrading-materials

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it only works from stock unity shaders to hdrp shaders, so if you had custom shaders setup on built-in, it can't know how to convert the inputs to HDRP shaders

outer shore Jul 10, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Hello everyone, I'm creating and setting tiles in tilemaps dynamically through code and I have these artifacts in between each tile.

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https://gyazo.com/05a3dc507b2fbb12cc84f60b24a0e93e

Gyazo

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The thing is when using tilemaps normally, these artifacts do not appear

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Some of these artifacts went away when pixel snap WAS NOT disabled, but now that it is enabled as it is a need for me, these appear.

dawn sorrel Jul 11, 2020, 7:27 AM

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@turbid matrix which channel is the right one to ask in? cause i haven't received an answer in either

turbid matrix Jul 11, 2020, 8:25 AM

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@dawn sorrel #💥┃post-processing or #archived-shaders

dawn sorrel Jul 11, 2020, 8:45 AM

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alright

unkempt python Jul 11, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Hey, i need little help! Am creating HDRP game with realistic graphics and i wanna use Unity Standard Assets water... But if i drag "WaterProDaytime", whole scene goes grey and when i hit Game mode i cant see water or it is just black? Can i solve this problem and how? Unity

rich spade Jul 11, 2020, 11:52 AM

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@unkempt python the Unity Standard Assets water as far as I know is not URP/HDRP compatible and is quite old 😉
I'd advise either finding an alternative community one, write one in shader graph or buy from asset store.

unkempt python Jul 11, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Okay... Can you recommend something? @rich spade

rich spade Jul 11, 2020, 1:11 PM

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@unkempt python one of the most realistic waters I'm aware of is Crest which has released a HDRP version. Although this is currently more aimed at Ocean simulation.
It depends on your requirements, as you were just going to use the Unity Standard water. Following a shader graph tutorial for water will yield similar results and only cost your time. Benefit is you learn a few new skills along the way 😉

unkempt python Jul 11, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Ok, is there any tutorial for beginners? And can you link it. @rich spade 😀

rich spade Jul 11, 2020, 1:18 PM

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@unkempt python this is a fairly solid tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbTAbOnhRcI
If you do a search on net you will find a few simpler ones too.

YouTube

PolyToots

OCEAN shader with Unity Shader Graph!

Hello and welcome to, like, the 10 millionth water tutorial I’ve done. In this week’s video we’re looking at some more in-depth Unity Shader Graph features to make water, or an ocean, with shoreline/edge foam, depth, and waves.

Shader is compatible with HDRP., Edit: it used...

▶ Play video

unkempt python Jul 11, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Thanks, i try my best!

iron quartz Jul 11, 2020, 2:25 PM

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why is my game view showing the outline filter i have put on from my scene view?

dawn sorrel Jul 11, 2020, 2:25 PM

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...

iron quartz Jul 11, 2020, 2:26 PM

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?

upper swift Jul 11, 2020, 6:44 PM

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So i just installed the universal pipeline, got everythign converted, looked fine in the edtior, then after I hit play.. this happened. lol anyone have an idea?

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nvm... i reset the skybox mat and it fixed it

stable acorn Jul 11, 2020, 9:26 PM

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how do i get volumetric lighting with urp?

tranquil beacon Jul 11, 2020, 11:12 PM

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i just heard Brackeys say that emission can only be exceded by a value of 1 in HDRP... is this true? because I have conflicting data

fiery marsh Jul 11, 2020, 11:17 PM

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They might have said "HDR", not HDRP. Those are different things.

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https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/HDR.html

turbid matrix Jul 12, 2020, 7:10 AM

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it's pretty pointless to even start guessing without knowing the context he said it

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also, there's a lot of misinformation from Brackeys when it comes to SRPs, I wouldn't just believe it all

drifting vault Jul 12, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Hey Remy (no pings at weekends), sorry for ping at weekends, but is there a way to make SSGI ignore volumetric lighting and fog?
Im not that volumetric fog cause white AO on objects

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SSGI + Volumetric light disabled

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And some reason SSGI works at half screen only in camera view ?
Scene view

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Camera view

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tranquil beacon Jul 12, 2020, 1:58 PM

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@fiery marsh i believe ur correct thanks

scarlet hull Jul 12, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Maybe these are valid bugs to report :/ @drifting vault

drifting vault Jul 12, 2020, 3:08 PM

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will try to examine what cause that bug

turbid matrix Jul 12, 2020, 3:14 PM

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@drifting vault does that happen if you only have game or scene view active at once or does that happen regadless if both are open at once?

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there's been x amount of cases on HDRP in past where game and scene views mess each others up

drifting vault Jul 12, 2020, 3:14 PM

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I was had two views enabled.

turbid matrix Jul 12, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I think I last I've reported bug for SSAO doing that

drifting vault Jul 12, 2020, 3:15 PM

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but that happening even if i have only 1 view

turbid matrix Jul 12, 2020, 3:15 PM

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but this has happened to other things in past too

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ah ok, just curious

dawn sorrel Jul 12, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Hello I want to add URP to a project that i work on, basically to be able to use shader graph
The problem is that I use DrawMEshInstanced to render vast amounts on meshes in the scene dynamically. Is there a way for these two to be combined? and also being built for WebGL

waxen lantern Jul 12, 2020, 6:32 PM

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@dawn sorrel applicable slides from "Best Practices for Shader Graph" talk https://www.slideshare.net/unity3d/best-practices-for-shader-graph

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SlideShare

Unity Technologies

Best Practices for Shader Graph

dawn sorrel Jul 12, 2020, 7:16 PM

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@waxen lantern I think this is about you instancing, like the automating batching that unity does with same materials.
Is it applicable for explicit batching with materialpropertyblocks and per instance attributes?

gilded maple Jul 12, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Hey, how can I make an object be rendered at an infinite distance ?

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I want to create an object that always have the same dimensions no matter where I am in the scene

sweet wagon Jul 12, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Hi, I have a simple question. I am developing a 3d mobile game, will using Linear color space impact performance for me?

maiden coral Jul 12, 2020, 8:26 PM

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@sweet wagon yes

weary fog Jul 12, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Does the SRP Batcher work with skinned meshes, I'm seeing a lot of conflicting information? The slides that landon sent says it works with skinned meshes. However, there's a Unity blog post on the SRP Batcher saying it isn't compatible with skinned meshes. To make it even more confusing, the official documentation says the SRP Batcher both is and isn't compatible with skinned meshes

turbid matrix Jul 12, 2020, 10:52 PM

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I'd guess you've read older blog post that just indicated the state at that moment

weary fog Jul 12, 2020, 11:38 PM

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That's what I thought, but the official documentation says it supports skinned meshes but it also says it doesn't support skinned meshes

waxen lantern Jul 13, 2020, 2:07 AM

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@weary fog I'm sure some of the docs were just never updated so it's a mix of old and new info as @turbid matrix suggested. The documentation is all written incrementally.

magic crow Jul 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Hello! In Unity 2019.4.1f1 I go to build my game and the first two scenes of the menu and loading screen work, but then the game shows a white or black screen.

AsynceResourceUpload failed.

DoDecruncherJob failed.

are the two errors i get in the error log

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I am running HDRP 7.3.1 as it's verified for 2019.4

https://paste.myst.rs/1me

These are the full error lines that appear in the Log File when i build it and the black screen appears before becoming unresponsive

PasteMyst

A simple website for pasting text, mainly code snippets.

indigo summit Jul 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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is 10x and the new hdrp template are released already? 🤔

magic crow Jul 13, 2020, 6:33 AM

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on Unity documentation it looks like theres newer ones, but in engine 7.3.1 is verifified LTS for Unity 2049.4 whereas HDRP 7.4 is not

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2019.4 not 2049.4 *

glad tartan Jul 13, 2020, 8:12 AM

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@indigo summit Not released yet but you can use the new template if you get it from github. Been messing around with it for a few days, the glass case in the middle kills performance though. Didnt look too deep into it but it wasn't necessarily the glass there that's tanking performance. Might be addressed before the final release though

indigo summit Jul 13, 2020, 8:13 AM

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how to use the template from github? just pull it as a new project? or i need to build unity project template?

glad tartan Jul 13, 2020, 8:15 AM

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No, if you already pull the master or staging branch then you should already have it. Just open it as any other project - https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/tree/master/com.unity.template-hd

GitHub

Unity-Technologies/Graphics

Unity Graphics - Including Scriptable Render Pipeline - Unity-Technologies/Graphics

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You can see it's just a regular project

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stiff marsh Jul 13, 2020, 8:16 AM

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how do i switch from hdrp to urp

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im not tryna render a low poly game with hdrp

glad tartan Jul 13, 2020, 8:18 AM

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You have to do that manually. The auto upgrade is only from Built-in to URP or Built-in to HDRP there's nothing to help with switching between SRPs

stiff marsh Jul 13, 2020, 8:18 AM

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thank you

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but do you know like what i would have to do?

glad tartan Jul 13, 2020, 8:20 AM

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SRP Switching
Remove HDRP and Get URP
Setup the URP pipeline asset and Assign it

Asset Tweaks
mainly just changing all the material shaders to URP shader then adjusting the light intensities, shadow settings, etc

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that should be it

stiff marsh Jul 13, 2020, 8:20 AM

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ok thanks dude

indigo summit Jul 13, 2020, 12:23 PM

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anyone ever pack normal map to 3d texture or render texture?

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what is the texture format for them?

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woops wrong channel my bad, i should've asked in shader

torpid bluff Jul 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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I can't find a clear answer on the web, does Unity support hardware HDR ? I mean the thing some modern game let you enable and used by high end screens.

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like HDR600/HDR1000 screens

torpid bluff Jul 13, 2020, 1:49 PM

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nevermind i found this :

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i guess that's what i need

turbid matrix Jul 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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@torpid bluff yes, but that only works if you use built-in renderer afaik

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official docs state this for HDRP and HDR output: No, however this feature is in research for HDRP.

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I have no idea about URP as docs just have "HDR" in the feature comparison table, this can mean two different things and usually they don't mean HDR output when they talk about it

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only if you want to have specific SRP asset per your quality level @mystic pine

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basically what the quality version does is that you can conf separate SRP assets for different quality levels

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np

torpid bluff Jul 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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@turbid matrix thank you for the precision, i'll wait for the HDRP implementation

turbid matrix Jul 13, 2020, 2:09 PM

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@mystic pine not sure I understand the question. Bloom doesn't make your perf any better

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I have no idea on specific URP settings but I don't think there's that much to conf in general in URP tho, you could just look around the URP renderer asset and PP effects settings

magic crow Jul 14, 2020, 1:47 AM

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I removed the loading screen that was connected to my project and just tried playing the game by itself but an error log wouldn't populate, it just became unresponsive

AsyncResourceUpload failed.
(Filename: C:\buildslave\unity\build\Runtime/Graphics/AsyncUploadTexture.cpp Line: 632)

was a previous error, i've heard of Async scene loading, but im honestly not sure if thats what this is. Im not sure why the game wont function

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i also tried digging through Drive C: while the game was running to look into the backend during "gameplay" but i couldnt find anything

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all objects in the scene have been upgraded to HDRP materials and HDRP/Lit , i followed the Unite Copenhagen and other HDRP videos from Unite events and Unity in general

magic crow Jul 14, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Update: I noticed when it builds with only the one scene of the game, its a gray screen its stuck on. dark gray, same shade as the "Made with Unity" splash screen. The game first loads as a black screen but then quickly transitions to the dark gray

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im breaking down the game and trying to load 1/3 of it at a time but idk what else to do

red veldt Jul 14, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Does anyone know how to get the overlay camera rendermode for urp

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red veldt Jul 14, 2020, 4:25 AM

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figured ou i have to update later one version

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but does anyone know how to update without getting errors

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slow bloom Jul 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

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I am using the URP, Is there a video on shadows? How each setting affects shadows? (Shadow quality, cascades, soft shadows..)

What is the difference between shadow cast modes? (I can't see any difference between "On" and "Two Sided")

kindred kiln Jul 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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I'm getting dark edges along terrain patches when I bake. any way to avoid this?

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terrain is just a mesh I brought in with some splits in it

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celest ice Jul 14, 2020, 7:56 AM

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are those bits together in the lightmap?

kindred kiln Jul 14, 2020, 7:56 AM

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no, they are islands

celest ice Jul 14, 2020, 7:56 AM

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might work better just having lightmap coords be like (0,0)-(1,1) over the whole thing?

kindred kiln Jul 14, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Is there any way to bleed out the edge of islands when baking?

celest ice Jul 14, 2020, 8:00 AM

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not that i know of.. even 2 cubes perfectly aligned tends to be visible on lightmaps from what i've seen

kindred kiln Jul 14, 2020, 8:14 AM

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I would like to have edge dilation.

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I can see the lightmap is just blending across a dark border

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celest heath Jul 14, 2020, 8:49 AM

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im very new in pipelanes and i just have no idea where to begin

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the question is do I need pipeline in my mobile game?

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the game looks terrible at the moment everything is baked

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celest ice Jul 14, 2020, 8:53 AM

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depends what you want to do.. the standard pipeline can definitely look better than that

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is everything static? i don't see anything that looks baked

celest heath Jul 14, 2020, 8:54 AM

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not everything
but stand and stuff behind that red stand are static

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other objects has to be non-static

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i got two lights and they are set to baked mode

celest ice Jul 14, 2020, 8:56 AM

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you probably won't really see it on that black stuff

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have you actually baked the lighting too?

celest heath Jul 14, 2020, 8:56 AM

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this object is static

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celest ice Jul 14, 2020, 8:58 AM

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baked lighting doesn't really do much to reflective surfaces

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a reflection probe might help

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the main part that looks wrong is obviously that black/red thing though

celest heath Jul 14, 2020, 9:03 AM

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i set objects to have their have generated uv maps

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it looks better now th

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or no XD

celest ice Jul 14, 2020, 9:04 AM

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try baking a reflection probe?

celest heath Jul 14, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Well

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i added the reflection proble

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wait i didnt baked it

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well

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celest ice Jul 14, 2020, 9:12 AM

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looks like the reflection probe has no light on the top half of it

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screen space reflections can look good too.. but not sure if that's in URP or suitable for mobile

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just using a scriptable render pipeline is unlikely to make it suddenly look significantly better anyway

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improving the lighting, reflections and textures is

celest heath Jul 14, 2020, 9:20 AM

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it just stuck

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zenith vortex Jul 14, 2020, 5:42 PM

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hi so i have a thing i can't really fix because i dont know

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it's like the sky is super super bright

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if i look to the ground

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and if i look to the sky

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it gets normal but the ground gets super dark

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why do i get this

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the options are already made from a scene by an asset so it shouldnt be like this i guess🤷‍♂️

gilded maple Jul 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Automatic exposure, you can deactivate it in the post processing options and change the sky intensity

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Idk if anyone can help me with this, but when I activated Automatic exposure, if I go in a shadow the exposure raise, but everything is kind of black and white

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When the sun rise or set everything is gray except the sky

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Ok I got it, dynamic ambient mode was disabled

zenith vortex Jul 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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ok and what do i choose instead of automatic?

gilded maple Jul 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Fixed

zenith vortex Jul 14, 2020, 6:04 PM

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and what would the amount be?

gilded maple Jul 14, 2020, 6:04 PM

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You can change it as you need

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Change it until your scene become well exposed

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it depends on the intensity of your sun

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If you're using real values like 100000 lux 12 should do it

zenith vortex Jul 14, 2020, 6:09 PM

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that's weird

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i'm using 1 lux

gilded maple Jul 14, 2020, 6:10 PM

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wtf

zenith vortex Jul 14, 2020, 6:10 PM

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on directional light

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and -3 on exposer on post process

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look

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if i go to 10000 lux this happens

gilded maple Jul 14, 2020, 6:10 PM

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1 lux is 10 times the intensity of the full moon

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well you just reduce the exposure

zenith vortex Jul 14, 2020, 6:11 PM

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gilded maple Jul 14, 2020, 6:11 PM

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use 12

zenith vortex Jul 14, 2020, 6:12 PM

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it's kind of the same

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i dont have the problem with the sky going nuts

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anymore

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but it's this weird yellow tint everywhere now

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and even the sky is weird if you look at it

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ok changed the tint of bloom it's a bit better

gilded maple Jul 14, 2020, 6:22 PM

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you can change the intensity of your sky

zenith vortex Jul 14, 2020, 6:26 PM

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yea..

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i don't know which is my sky

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i drag and drop another one

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with clouds to see if it changes

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and it's the same

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i created a hdri sky in volume

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and added there a sky

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still doesnt change

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and i also get this

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night with sun

hazy yoke Jul 14, 2020, 8:24 PM

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well thats clearly a bright moon

frigid cypress Jul 14, 2020, 8:24 PM

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technically a "bright moon" is night with sun, since the moon just reflects sunlight 🤓

hazy yoke Jul 14, 2020, 8:27 PM

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@frigid cypress NEEEEEERD

frigid cypress Jul 14, 2020, 8:27 PM

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i'm here to be correct, not helpful

cinder sundial Jul 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Hi, im using 2019.4.1 with the HDRP 7.3.1. Now if i want to upgrade to HDRP 7.4.1 this error occures. Anyone knows why?

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.SkyManager.UpdateEnvironment (UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDCamera hdCamera, UnityEngine.Rendering.ScriptableRenderContext renderContext, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.SkyUpdateContext skyContext, UnityEngine.Light sunLight, System.Boolean updateRequired, System.Boolean updateAmbientProbe, System.Boolean staticSky, UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.SkyAmbientMode ambientMode, System.Int32 frameIndex, UnityEngine.Rendering.CommandBuffer cmd) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@7.4.1/Runtime/Sky/SkyManager.cs:705)

magic crow Jul 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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In build mode this is a small section that pops up in the error log on a dark gray screen

WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'HDRP/Unlit' - All passes removed
WARNING: Shader Did you use #pragma only_renderers and omit this platform?
Shader 'Light/RGB': fallback shader 'Lightbeam/Lightbeam' not found

magic crow Jul 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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@cinder sundial it could mayybe be that the other dependencies of HDRP 7.4.1 are not updated to match it; but also 7.4.1 version is not yet verified with that Unity editor version

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Where is the Renderer Features in the HDRP asset?

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:24 AM

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in short, HDRP isn't configured same way as URP

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:25 AM

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oh. so it just isn't possible to add custom render features to HDRP

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:25 AM

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even that works differently on HDRP

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there's custom passes and custom pp passes on HDRP

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for example https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@7.4/manual/Custom-Pass.html

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:26 AM

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No idea how to use those. I guess I can quickly port my game over to URP. There isn't really anything that relies on HDRP yet

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I'll check out the link though

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:27 AM

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if you want to see the simplest example, check this SG example: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@7.4/manual/Custom-Pass.html#example-glitch-effect-without-code

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no coding required, only SG

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but what you can do with SG is really small part, for advanced effects you need to do c# and shader work

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:27 AM

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oh. I see. So you used the Volume component istead

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:28 AM

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custom passes have their own special volume

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custom post processing passes use the regular volume setup

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(where other PP effects are)

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:28 AM

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I don't actually know any shader labs so I may be a bit stuck

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:28 AM

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what kind of effect are you looking to have?

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:29 AM

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just CRT and other old monitor effects

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:29 AM

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you can do those directly on SG without any custom pass stuff

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:29 AM

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yeah but the examples appear to have some shader labs in it

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:29 AM

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oh wait, you mean like for whole screen?

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:29 AM

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for set up

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yeah, the whole screen, but IK know how to do that

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:30 AM

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that would be custom PP effect then

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:30 AM

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k. I'll just read through the manual

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:30 AM

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we all learn these things one day if we know them 😄

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https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@7.4/manual/Custom-Post-Process.html has example PP

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:31 AM

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if I can't get it too work then I will just switch to URP, but this does look like what I ewant

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:31 AM

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they have greyscale shader there, but you could just swap it to any image effect you want to implement

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:32 AM

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does does custom PP work with SG?

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or only SL

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:32 AM

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only text based shaders for now

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:33 AM

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oof. Might not be what I am looking for then

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I could just used the Custom volume effects with a _MainTex

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that would work fine

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:34 AM

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if you look at the last example I posted, Unity ships with you with prefilled template that does most of that for you already

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for most basic effects, you'd only swap this part for your own: ```cs
float4 CustomPostProcess(Varyings input) : SV_Target
{
UNITY_SETUP_STEREO_EYE_INDEX_POST_VERTEX(input);
uint2 positionSS = input.texcoord * _ScreenSize.xy;
float3 outColor = LOAD_TEXTURE2D_X(_InputTexture, positionSS).xyz;
return float4(lerp(outColor, Luminance(outColor).xxx, _Intensity), 1);
}

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:35 AM

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yes but I can't really use that though because I only know how to make shaders in shader graph and that doesn't work with this

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:35 AM

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yeah, HDRP expects you to know a bit more technical stuff if you need to do anything custom

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:36 AM

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exactly... maybe I should just switch to URP. it would be easier

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:36 AM

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it's not entry level renderer in any sense really. all settings are bit more complicated

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:36 AM

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I only chose it because it supported Volumetric Lighting

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URP doesn't

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:37 AM

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yeah, HDRP is pretty featured out of the box in comparison to URP, or even built-in

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for built-in you can always find 3rd party assets to fill the gaps though

green musk Jul 15, 2020, 6:38 AM

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yeah, but I like making stuff in shader graph and that is only supported in URP and HDRP.

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thanks for your assistance

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 6:40 AM

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there was an early draft for HDRP and SG based custom passes specifically but I dunno if that's scrapped now or still happening

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there's also this on Shader Graph roadmap, marked as next-up: https://portal.productboard.com/8ufdwj59ehtmsvxenjumxo82/c/55-single-pass-post-effects-support

Single-pass post-effects support - Unity Graphics

We're going to provide a full-screen Blit Shader that will allow for single-pass post-effects and screen overlays.

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but it's very vague and not clear at all if that would apply for URP, HDRP or for both

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I'd assume that the goal would be to make it work on both

upbeat umbra Jul 15, 2020, 7:39 AM

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I dont know where to ask this, so Ill ask it here, when I am trying to use URP's own post processing component, it does not work, I have searched for solution for 2 days

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 AM

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@upbeat umbra you use the volume setup?

upbeat umbra Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 AM

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yes

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 AM

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you've enabled PP on camera?

upbeat umbra Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 AM

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yes

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 AM

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there is a checkbox I think

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URP asset is configured to use integrated PP? (only option on 2019.3/2019.4)

upbeat umbra Jul 15, 2020, 7:44 AM

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How should I configure it? there is no checkbox or anything

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just Gradient mode and LUT size

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it is using the 2d renderer

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 AM

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@upbeat umbra which URP version?

upbeat umbra Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 AM

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7.1.8

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 7:49 AM

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can you try upgrading it?

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7.4.1 would be the latest

upbeat umbra Jul 15, 2020, 7:49 AM

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It says up to date

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 7:50 AM

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7.1.8 is probably the verified release for that editor version, hence it suggests that

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you can still update it via package manager

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also have you tried other PP effects ?

upbeat umbra Jul 15, 2020, 7:51 AM

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well, I have tried vignette, bloom, color adjustments

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📎 2020-07-15_10-51-16.mp4

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 7:56 AM

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7.1.8 does explain why you don't see the PP type toggle in the URP asset btw

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they only added it little after it

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but I'd still try 7.4.1 as it has plenty of 2D renderer fixes in general

upbeat umbra Jul 15, 2020, 7:57 AM

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hmm. Somehow it still worked for me in a another project..

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Trying to upgrade

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Still, nothing..

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Hi. I am trying to make an fps and am using the latest version of urp from the package manager. With the standard render pipeline I could use 2 cameras so that the gun rendered on top always. I cannot however seem to figure it out with urp. How would I go about doing this. Thanks in advance

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 8:14 AM

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@frozen dust https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.universal@7.4/manual/camera-stacking.html

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you need URP 7.2 or newer for this

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 8:14 AM

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I do have newer and can camera stack but i don't know where to go from there

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 8:15 AM

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have you followed that doc?

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 8:15 AM

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yes

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 8:15 AM

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I bet there are x amount of youtube tutorials on this topic too, in case they help

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Im trying to render an fps layer which contains the gun on top of everything else

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I bet there are x amount of youtube tutorials on this topic too, in case they help
@turbid matrix I have tried. With HDRP i could do custom render passes which I can't do on urp.

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 8:17 AM

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yeah I really meant like with that stacking setup

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there are also other ways to make sure gun doesn't clip

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I think this had gun rendering done in renderer feature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AmI2yOx0Nc

YouTube

Unity

FPS Game Rendering and Graphics in Unity! (Tutorial)

Learn how to create a first person shooter style camera in Unity that will not clip through walls, without using multiple cameras. This FPS camera is created using Unity's Lightweight Render Pipeline or LWRP using scriptable render passes. Download the demo project here: https...

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frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 8:19 AM

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I'll have a look thanks!

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 8:44 AM

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@turbid matrix The video shows performance optimisations but doesn't solve the gun cliiping into the walls

upbeat umbra Jul 15, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Maybe make the gun smaller, and closer to camera?

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Something like this.

📎 2020-07-15_11-47-20.mp4

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the sprite is what I mean

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Possibly but is there currently no way to do it via camera stacking or render passes as it would be helpful later on when there are more fps objects on the layer

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 9:00 AM

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@frozen dust from video description: Learn how to create a first person shooter style camera in Unity that will not clip through walls, without using multiple cameras

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I also earlier quickly jumped through that and it did show how

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Hmm maybe I am not doing it correctly then. I'll try again and see

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 9:02 AM

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https://youtu.be/5AmI2yOx0Nc?t=137

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Nope the gun still clips through

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The comments on the video show it too

carmine edge Jul 15, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Hello, can i have two different rendering volumes in unity for example one set of settings for the outside and one set(more detailed) for the inside?

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Yeah you would have a box volume if you wanted it to affect only a the area within that box

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Global volumes affect the whole scene

carmine edge Jul 15, 2020, 9:29 AM

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what s the object component with that property and how do i bake only a volume with those settings?

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 9:39 AM

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@frozen dust on your renderer features, you can make the override for depth test to always

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vs

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frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Ok I'll do that

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Ok that fixed it. The event had to be after opaques wheras the video was rendering before opaques

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Thanks

carmine edge Jul 15, 2020, 9:52 AM

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@frozen dust can you help me with those different zones of rendering?

frozen dust Jul 15, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Sure

carmine edge Jul 15, 2020, 9:53 AM

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thank you

dawn sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Hey there, i currently do a material override custom pass in urp to render cloud "shadows"over the whole scene based on world space uvs.
the problem i encounter is: those get also drawn in the shadowed areas.
can i use the shadows from a baked directional light as a mask to not draw my the material override in those areas? as written
i use urp and therefore shadergraph.
ps: not entirely sure, if this is the right channel, probably in the shader section this can be right as well?

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 1:41 PM

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@turbid matrix Hey, I remembered you used the stencil buffer in HDRP (Don't remember if you did it with custom passes as well after it was properly supported) could you give a quick overview of how to set that up please? Can't find any proper info on that. (Not too advanced or intermediate on the graphical programing side of things)

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 3:46 PM

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@glad tartan https://discordapp.com/channels/489222168727519232/517108768933281843/669395847787708426

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there's a short video clip before that message

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there's two things to note though

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that stencil write material does overwrite existing stencil bits, so if you've set something on the material manually or Unity has set something, overwriting the value will clear the old bits

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apparently that doesn't work as is on 10.x anymore

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I haven't checked what has changed but I suspect there could be some change on custom passes itself that broke that as I don't think the stencil write shader itself is changed that much

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Ah alright, was this with the new stencil updates that properly exposes them?

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 3:49 PM

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basically the stencil write shader is from here: https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/blob/master/TestProjects/HDRP_Tests/Assets/GraphicTests/Scenes/2x_Lighting/2208_And_2209_Reflection_Stencil/StencilWriteShader.shader

GitHub

Unity-Technologies/Graphics

Unity Graphics - Including Scriptable Render Pipeline - Unity-Technologies/Graphics

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this test project still works so you could take a look at it too

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scene 2208 if I remember right

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Ah alright, thanks

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I wonder if they will make this more simple and properly works with the custom pass system

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before I asked you I was trying to do with with custom pass. Regular Draw pass to get the stencil and fullscreen pass to apply it. (Similar setup to the Outline one alelievr has on github examples)

turbid matrix Jul 15, 2020, 3:58 PM

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I'd love to be able to set the user bits from SG and HD stock shaders (like SSR and decal stencil bits currently)

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it could easily be on the hdrp template without extra cost

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now we have to do extra pass for the stencil pass to set the custom bits

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@glad tartan as for the stencil bits, you probably found this already but they are defined here (along with explanations):
https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/blob/master/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition/Runtime/RenderPipeline/HDStencilUsage.cs.hlsl
https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/blob/master/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition/Runtime/RenderPipeline/HDStencilUsage.cs

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there are also plenty of "free" bits if you don't use specific feats, like TAA or SMAA

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Yea, I would have to search for this, thanks.

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I just hope it's better integrated with custom pass and Shader Graph

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Also this is more of a shader question but I'm not sure anyone the mess with the bleeding edge stuff on github. Have you ever tried making a custom Shader GUI for shader Graph shader? It's been in shader graph since 8.x.x i believe but It never worked and recently I saw a PR and commit that mentioned something about fixing this and making it work.

frigid cypress Jul 15, 2020, 4:31 PM

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what do you mean it never worked?

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 4:35 PM

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The properties weren't rendering in the editor. I was using the regular shader GUI docs (for built-in renderer shaders) to do it since I didn't find any docs on it in the Shader Graph Package on it. So maybe that's not the same for Shader graph shaders.
This was a few months ago though. Haven't tried it recently, might be all good now.

frigid cypress Jul 15, 2020, 4:36 PM

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no, they are the same as regular shader gui files

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I'll try it again later today and soo how it goes

frigid cypress Jul 15, 2020, 4:37 PM

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if you give it a shot lately and it still doesn't work, double check that your strings are all pointing to the right place and if so file a bug ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i've not seen that happen before except in user error on the script sadly

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so if it is broken i'd like to know haha

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Yea, I'll check it again today and report back on it.

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Also, is the custom foldout drawers accessible to us? Last tiem I tired to use it it said it's protected

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frigid cypress Jul 15, 2020, 4:44 PM

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i have no clue on that one

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i think that's something that the HD team wrote so i imagine not

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Ah alright. Guess it's something I'd have to try and recreate, thanks

kindred kiln Jul 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Has anyone used Bakery?

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I don't understand how to mark something to use lightprobes in Bakery - it wants to lightmap everything.

solid patio Jul 15, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Hello!

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I have a question

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with PPSv2 and URP (7.4 the compatible one)

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how do you get a post processing volume with PPSv2 to work with it?

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I have a test level

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but it's not working

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is there anything I need to set up?

fiery marsh Jul 15, 2020, 8:26 PM

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@solid patio There should be a "Feature Set" option on the URP Asset which should be set to PPv2 if that's what you want to use. Then the PPv2 volume and layer components should work. (see https://cyangamedev.wordpress.com/2020/06/22/urp-post-processing/ for more info)

solid patio Jul 15, 2020, 8:29 PM

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OMG CYAN YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER

ripe quail Jul 15, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Not really sure, maybe this is a better place to pose my question instead of shaders.

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Anyone have a good grasp on the HDRP custom passes? I'm trying to apply a shader to an occluded object, and changing it's depth to be visible through objects:

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But I'm not sure how to handle the non-occluded part without resorting to the forward renderer in a second custom pass (and the fog no longer is rendered). Here's what my custom pass looks like:

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I think this is a lot easier to accomplish in URP, hopefully it's achievable in HDRP

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@ripe quail I would say take a look at the code for this effect here - Seems to be doing the same thing you want for a part of it
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6877923/66143724-f02ab100-e607-11e9-9fbf-af639112d17a.gif

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It's the Behind Factor part

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https://github.com/alelievr/HDRP-Custom-Passes

GitHub

alelievr/HDRP-Custom-Passes

A bunch of custom passes made for HDRP. Contribute to alelievr/HDRP-Custom-Passes development by creating an account on GitHub.

ripe quail Jul 15, 2020, 9:52 PM

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@glad tartan Interesting, yes, that looks right. Thanks for sharing! I'll take a look at this and see if I can solve my issue

glad tartan Jul 15, 2020, 9:53 PM

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No problem, hope it works out for you

indigo summit Jul 16, 2020, 7:26 AM

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@ripe quail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBqSSXjQvCo

YouTube

Unity

Custom Pass Framework in HDRP (Tutorial)

When using the High Definition Render Pipeline (HDRP) we can use a custom pass to change materials on scene geometry, change the draw order in which objects being are rendered, and read camera buffers to use in our shaders. In this video, we'll take a look at how we can build ...

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dawn sorrel Jul 16, 2020, 9:33 AM

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Guys i found these texture filtering best practices online and i would like to have your opinion/experience on this. Do you agree/disagree and what have you done in the past that worked for you?

Use bilinear filtering for a balance between performance and visual quality.
Use trilinear filtering selectively. This is because trilinear filtering requires more memory bandwidth than bilinear filtering.
Use bilinear and 2x anisotropic filtering instead of trilinear and 1x anisotropic. This is because this combination of filtering techniques can both look and perform better.
Keep the anisotropic level low. Only use a level higher than two for critical game assets.

turbid matrix Jul 16, 2020, 9:35 AM

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in general, you'd tweak it manually for the assets that suffer from cheapest option (bilinear)

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bilinear will look horrible on anything that goes further up in view, like ground materials

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as for anisotropic, many games just expose a setting that lets you tweak this, your target platform also plays a huge role on how tightly you need to optimize these to push the limits

dawn sorrel Jul 16, 2020, 9:37 AM

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I am unsure about the performance implications of changing a large amount of textures from bilinear to trilinear

indigo summit Jul 16, 2020, 10:22 AM

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No, if you already pull the master or staging branch then you should already have it. Just open it as any other project - https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/tree/master/com.unity.template-hd
@glad tartan what unity version that the template compatible with? i can't get it to work with a18

GitHub

Unity-Technologies/Graphics

Unity Graphics - Including Scriptable Render Pipeline - Unity-Technologies/Graphics

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oh nvm it work now

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wow, what's with the glass cube in the middle of room. It eats the whole fps

drifting vault Jul 16, 2020, 10:39 AM

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@indigo summit really? maybe they use real-time 4k reflection probe? 😄

indigo summit Jul 16, 2020, 11:29 AM

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ah realtime reflection probe

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wait all of them are realtime 🤔

drifting vault Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 AM

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https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/pull/1155

GitHub

Shadows for the cloud layer by adrien-de-tocqueville · Pull Request...

Purpose of this PR
This PR is adding shadow computed from the cloud layer.
I tried two method, I think the second one is better
First method: It tries to show the cloud shape on the ground but this...

dawn sorrel Jul 16, 2020, 12:02 PM

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so anyone know what hdrp version is in latest unity beta and alpha ?

scarlet hull Jul 16, 2020, 12:14 PM

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2020.1 : 8.2.0 (or at least, will come soon)
2020.2 : no embeded version for the moment but will be 10.0.0

turbid matrix Jul 16, 2020, 12:45 PM

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8.2.0 seems to be in the registry at least: https://packages.unity.com/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition

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additionally there's 9.0.0-preview.33

indigo summit Jul 16, 2020, 1:47 PM

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how i can i make HDRP package editable? UPM always reset all my changes

indigo summit Jul 16, 2020, 2:09 PM

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it seems probe volume are not supported anymore in 9xx huh?? 😦

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also how do you use SSGI though? it seems i didn't have any effect when i turn it on

glad tartan Jul 16, 2020, 2:16 PM

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It's mentioned that they wanted to focus on visuals at max quality (from what I read in two of the text files with the project - Read Me and another I forgot)
The Glass Case in the middle of the new HDRP Template scene eats performance no matter what you do. (It's not the glass that's the cause)

Made reflection probes only bake on enable.
Turned off tessellation on the bamboo trees
Used the default HDRP Asset and Quality settings instead of Ultra. (Only difference with ultra is higher res shadows , higher precision Color Buffer R16, and Shadow quality high)
Set all lights to cache shadows on enable

When I checked the profiler with the build I made at the spot with the glass case. It was confusing.
Main Thread saying it's waiting on GPU. Render thread saying it's waiting on CPU

By default the scene is locked to 60 fps I think or maybe even 30. It had Vsync on and I always disable that so didnt pay too much attention to which was on.
So I guess most people might not see the perf dip unless they unlock the framerate and/or have a graphics card that is older and less performant that drops below 60 there.
In the editor it runs horrible but in a build I get a little over 6ms not looking at the center and around 16ms or a little below at times looking at the glass case in the center.

I'm not sure what's up with that part of the scene.
Hopefully it will be sorted out because this might give new users a bad impression on performance for HDRP (since this scene is so simple)

scarlet hull Jul 16, 2020, 2:16 PM

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To edit the packages code/asset, you need to use a local copy of the package.

turbid matrix Jul 16, 2020, 2:19 PM

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easiest way to do this: install HDRP via package manager, after this navigate to your project/Library/PackageCache and move the HDRP package folder into your projects Packages folder

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Anything you place in packages folder gets automatically picked up by Unity and you don't have to do any modifications to manifest

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PM used to have a button on some beta versions that did this automatically but it got scrapped for whatever reason

indigo summit Jul 16, 2020, 2:21 PM

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ah i see

turbid matrix Jul 16, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I personally just use git clone from separate location and put folder refs to the manifest.json manually

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but to get back to the point, anything in library folder can get overwritten, don't mod anything there

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this is folder you should always treat as cache which can change any point in time (which is why we don't even put this in version control)

indigo summit Jul 16, 2020, 2:24 PM

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@glad tartan yeah that middle room performance are quite weird though. i hope that's fixed before HDRP template are released

celest heath Jul 16, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I don't have additional light shadows in my build but I do have them in game scene and play mode

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what's wrong? I use urp

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how do u reduce the resolution?

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and how does it look with reduced reso?

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if it's playable then it's fine i guess

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and you can add settings where player can change their reso

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it's for high end mobile users i guess

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do you have any additional lights in ur game?

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ah

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i got these shadows in play mode

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so it works fine

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but in the build these shadows are gone

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build

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yes

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i just wanna try it lol

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how?

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u mean this?

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sad

ripe quail Jul 16, 2020, 5:43 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBqSSXjQvCo
@indigo summit I had seen that video, but it doesn't help in the case where I am trying to render an occluded object on top of what's occluding it (with a special shader, of course).

YouTube

Unity

Custom Pass Framework in HDRP (Tutorial)

When using the High Definition Render Pipeline (HDRP) we can use a custom pass to change materials on scene geometry, change the draw order in which objects being are rendered, and read camera buffers to use in our shaders. In this video, we'll take a look at how we can build ...

▶ Play video

drifting vault Jul 16, 2020, 8:16 PM

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@indigo summit to use SSGI make sure you have volume with SSGI, then make sure you enable it on camera and scene camera frame settings

turbid matrix Jul 17, 2020, 6:24 AM

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@drifting vault You dont have to do it from camera if you just enable it globally from project settings->hdrp default settings->default frame settings

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You may need to also enable it from hdrp asset

carmine edge Jul 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Does anyone know how to have two lightmap settings in one scene (in my game is a house in the forrest) one for inside the house(very detailed with bounces) and outside which i want medium res

turbid matrix Jul 17, 2020, 11:09 AM

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@carmine edge each mesh in the scene has Lightmapping->Scale In Lightmap value

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you can just put higher scale on the indoor meshes

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you'd probably need to separate house exterior and interior to separate mesh assets so you can set these separately as well

carmine edge Jul 17, 2020, 11:40 AM

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@turbid matrix thank you i have even found the lightap paramters field where you can add profiles

timid moat Jul 17, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Has anyone run into issues with the Unity Editor crashing on Linux when exiting play mode? Seems to have something to do with HDRP and Vulkan.

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2019.4.0

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actually, 2019.3.17+ so far

zenith vortex Jul 17, 2020, 2:46 PM

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do you guys know if aquas works with hdrp?

turbid matrix Jul 17, 2020, 2:56 PM

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@zenith vortex it doesn't

zenith vortex Jul 17, 2020, 2:56 PM

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oooof

turbid matrix Jul 17, 2020, 2:57 PM

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if you need water for HDRP, there's crest for hdrp

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also some wip version of integrated water solution but there's like no news if it'll ever get merged

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https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/tree/HDRP/water-version1

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screencapture of the PR on the old SRP repo: https://imgur.com/a/w9L59Mx

zenith vortex Jul 17, 2020, 3:01 PM

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oh ok, thanks

drifting vault Jul 17, 2020, 4:13 PM

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@zenith vortex i use this one water solution for HDRP https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/particles-effects/crest-ocean-system-hdrp-164158

Crest Ocean System HDRP | Particles/Effects | Unity Asset Store

Use the Crest Ocean System HDRP tool for your next project. Find this and more particle & effect tools on the Unity Asset Store.

turbid matrix Jul 17, 2020, 4:14 PM

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that would be the Crest for HDRP I mentioned

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I'd love to hear some background on the water thing

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if I had to guess, the built-in water is not going anywhere

indigo summit Jul 17, 2020, 6:04 PM

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my guess is until there's a tessellation support for SG?

glad tartan Jul 17, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I would hope they bring in the water system at some point. UE 4.26 will have a default water system with gerstner waves and all.

unkempt python Jul 17, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Can i use Unity Book Of Death models without HDRP?

indigo summit Jul 17, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I would hope they bring in the water system at some point. UE 4.26 will have a default water system with gerstner waves and all.
@glad tartan True, with the new SingleLayer Water Shading

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and simple fluid sim :p

glad tartan Jul 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Ah yea, that was also in the works for HDRP but haven't seen anything on it in a long while.

drifting vault Jul 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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not really @unkempt python

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Its have some layered materials

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with trinapalar mapping

waxen lantern Jul 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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and simple fluid sim :p
@indigo summit 3d particle fluid simulation (position based) and volume simulation (grid based) are "under consideration" on the vfx graph roadmap, fwiw. you can vote for them and add feedback here (scroll down to bottom) https://portal.productboard.com/unity/1-unity-graphics/tabs/9-visual-effect-graph

Visual Effect Graph - Unity Graphics

Product roadmap and feature requests. Welcome to our product portal.

indigo summit Jul 17, 2020, 8:47 PM

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well what i mean is as simple fluid sim for water interaction. Let's hope they cover that part in the roadmap

waxen lantern Jul 17, 2020, 8:49 PM

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@indigo summit right, you could put that in the feedback field on the roadmap site there i mean.. to request they cover / accommodate that common use case.

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there's plenty of need to have two different simple simulations types interact with eachother and be rendered coherently as well. like, rain particles (or larger particles, fluid or otherwise) that fall into the ocean / water surface and the simple 2D surface sim reacts with proper ripples, waves.... VFX graph can ties these things together without having to have a wealth of compute shader and render pipeline knowledge.

atomic wing Jul 17, 2020, 9:00 PM

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No tessellation support for HDRP shadergraph, Amplify Shader has it. Pretty sad.

waxen lantern Jul 17, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@atomic wing I agree. Tessellation is "under consideration" on the ShaderGraph roadmap anyway, scroll down here see "Tessellation for HDRP" and "Tessellation for Universal Render Pipeline" please vote on these features so we can make sure it happens: https://portal.productboard.com/unity/1-unity-graphics/tabs/7-shader-graph

Shader Graph - Unity Graphics

Product roadmap and feature requests. Welcome to our product portal.

atomic wing Jul 17, 2020, 9:08 PM

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yea its been "Under consideration" for a long while XD

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I voted twice lol

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I mean its HDRP, shaders should have tessellation capabilities.

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Especially terrain

atomic wing Jul 17, 2020, 9:37 PM

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What's your guy's lighting settings for HDRP? Lux, per pixel, mixed, exposure?

dawn sorrel Jul 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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hey

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anyone send me te latest hdrp 10 that work with unity alpha 18

glad tartan Jul 17, 2020, 10:37 PM

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@dawn sorrel You get it from GitHub - https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics

GitHub

Unity-Technologies/Graphics

Unity Graphics - Including Scriptable Render Pipeline - Unity-Technologies/Graphics

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:34 AM

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@atomic wing @waxen lantern you've seen these comments week ago? https://discordapp.com/channels/489222168727519232/497874081329184799/730791561549316166

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basically... wouldn't get hopes up with built-in tessellation

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I personally don't get how Unity thinks they can afford not supporting that basic functionality

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I get that SG staff has a lot on the plate, but this feat has clearly just been sitting at the bottom of backlog for years

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:38 AM

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and it’s possible we may not implement tessellation at all but rather newer techniques to achieve similar results etc it’s a bigger ask than it feels like
@turbid matrix ah well actually I have more or less concurred on what sparajoy mentioned here (above)
Because Mesh Shaders are supersede Tessellation and Geometry shaders... that by the time they actually fully implemented Tessellation shaders in ShaderGraph it wouldn't matter anymore lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:39 AM

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yes but we can't use mesh shaders on all platforms

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if Unity will support them, it's likely to happen on DX12, which is a niche platform on bigger picture

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that being said, we wouldn't use tess on mobile anyway

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just mainly wanting to still support other windows versions than Win10

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I also hope Unity some day gets their DX12 at least as fast as their DX11 is today

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there's been improvements on 2020.2 for HDRP's DX12 but it's still slower

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:43 AM

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yes but we can't use mesh shaders on all platforms
@turbid matrix Not today but a few years from now.. which is how long it might take Unity if they started working on tessellation support in ShaderGraph today, sadly

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:43 AM

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don't get me wrong, I'd love to see mesh shader support but this really feels like major feat we will not see in few years in Unity

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when current HDRP tessellation would be like few days - one week work for Unity to add as extra as extra SG template

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QA time but yeah

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:44 AM

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there's also compute shader fallback for mesh shaders.

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not built into the API implementations i just mean, Unity could do that on an engine level

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:45 AM

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oh, I doubt Unity would add tessellation like they do in Unreal... it would likely to be just similar settings they have on actual LitTessellation HDRP shader once you either toggle it on or pick the template

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:45 AM

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that's where the idea from mesh shaders came from anyway,.. Indirect draw using compute shaders

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:46 AM

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I think first set of DX12 ultimate feats we'll see will be DXR 1.1 support

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wouldn't be surprised if we never saw VRS support, and mesh shader support would be nice but Unity isn't exactly forerunner on things like these

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:48 AM

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yeah though they weren't far behind Epic / Unreal in DXR development and actually had some features like recursive rendering before UE4 did

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:48 AM

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they started like year after Epic for DXR

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it's also still a lot behind on many things, Unreal supports majority of their graphics feats on DXR like, can use vertex offsets in shaders etc

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I have no idea how they do it but Unity sure doesn't support it

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I can't really judge their DXR support in practical level though as I've only briefly tried it

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(unreals I mean)

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 7:50 AM

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This is actually funny because recently I've been seeing Unity showing and talking about certain features first then Unreal announces it a while after and release it in a production ready state. For example Unity first had a physical sky with HDRP and a talk a few years back showed terrain layers. UE4 announced Physical sky later and got it released production ready, as well as terrain layers (Landscape layers) and this is no where to be seen on Unity side.

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Not sure what's happening but this is the trend I'm noticing

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:51 AM

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yeah, there's a lot of small things Unity has been doing that Unreal has mirrored

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and same way other way around

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 7:51 AM

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same with water and fluid sim. Those showed up for HDRP a long time ago but next version of UE4 will have water, and fluid sim is basically already possible with improvements coming next version and for UE5

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Unity did do GTAO first as well

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but yeah, Epic has been faster on getting these things into production

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like that landscape layer thing

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:52 AM

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i'm glad they have each other as friendly competition in any case

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Yea, Not sure if it's because their renderer is more mature that the turn around is much faster for all these implementations

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:52 AM

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they also have virtually unlimited funding 😄

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but yeah, you can't just put more people to work on things, there's practical limits on how many chefs you can have around

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 7:53 AM

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haha yea. Fortnite money definitely helped to speed up a lot of these things

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:53 AM

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but yeah, you can't just put more people to work on things, there's practical limits on how many chefs you can have around
@turbid matrix Unity is a great example of that sometimes haha

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so many offices and employees around the world

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It increases the latency and race conditions

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of people trying to get work done together

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 7:57 AM

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We might have to expect things to go slower since basically the whole engine is being rebuilt

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:57 AM

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lol,no

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:57 AM

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versus just sitting in the same building somewhere in north carolina lol

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:57 AM

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UE5 will be built on top of UE4 for sure

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 7:57 AM

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and a lot of tiem things pause for a while for refactoring

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:57 AM

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coding C++ in notepad

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 7:58 AM

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I'm talking about Unity

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:58 AM

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ah sorry, I thought you meant UE5 😄 because that's hardly a full rebuild

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tbh I'm getting doubts on Unity's DOTS plans

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 7:58 AM

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The engine is basically being rebuilt, ECS, SRP, and all that to replace the current toolset etc

hazy egret Jul 18, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Sorry *Does anyone know some good baked lights resources for shader graph?

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 7:59 AM

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@hazy egret did you check pinned on #archived-shaders ?

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 7:59 AM

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yeah as far as we know UE4 to UE5 is more incremental... not as much of a whole different engine like UE3 to UE4

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:00 AM

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even UE1 and UE4 share a lot of the old framework

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that engine has so much baggage

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 8:00 AM

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I wouldn't be surprised if the UI/UX and workflow in UE5 is basically identical to UE4

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:00 AM

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they probably redo the UI theme to have more modern look but it's likely to work the same

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right now they have this windows xp theme thing going on

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 8:01 AM

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Yea, they've had UI update on the trello roadmap for years now so. Now is the time

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 8:05 AM

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having all the features in your engine is one thing, I'm just as if not more interested how the usability, extensibility and workflows actually look and work for those features. ... since that is arguably the only reason anyone uses an engine... i mean ... otherwise you'd just be coding from scratch directly with the APIs. if all that mattered was having foundational features.

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:10 AM

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this is kinda my biggest painpoint in unreal.. they have tons of nice feats but most of them just don't work the way I'd want or need and modifying their systems is super tedious as you have to recompile half of the engine usually to do so

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one thing I'm currently bit let down by Unity is the HDRP clouds

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Yeah, though Unity isn't even close to perfect in usability, extensibility and workflows either .. it's all a mixed bag depending on the use case. All engines are a let down at some point.

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one thing I'm currently bit let down by Unity is the HDRP clouds
@turbid matrix that's a new feature?

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:18 AM

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new cloud layer yes

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afaik they don't support custom shaders there, so I don't think even 3rd party volumetric cloud solutions can hook into it

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now it's basically just an image with flow map / panning

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unless I'm missing something obvious here, it just feels outdated take on clouds upon feature arrival

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unreals cloud setup feels like next gen

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they can even composite custom volumetric skies you build with your own shader materials there

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 8:21 AM

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It might just be for that and then later we can a volumetric cloud component/override

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:21 AM

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I hope they extend it, yes

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would be nice to have such plans on the roadmap now, wink wink

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Yea the roadmap is still the same as it was

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:23 AM

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I'm kinda curious on the flowmap thing on sky in general

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I have hard time imagining how that would ever work nicely for distorting the clouds realistically

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this was the gif animation attached to the HDRI flowmap PR: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/61282776/78232620-cbd76080-74d4-11ea-9cf4-28f638524bc6.gif

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I frankly dont get it 😄

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you could do auroras with it I suppose

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 8:26 AM

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hmm, when I tried the flowmap things looked weird. Bu the default procedural motion worked fine

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:26 AM

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but even then custom shaders would always give nicer results

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 8:26 AM

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yeah Sky / Cloud flowmaps seems like something you'd want to use with URP on Nintendo Switch or something like that

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:27 AM

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there's actually two flowmap things here, one for hdri sky and one for cloud layer

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both has it now

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 8:27 AM

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It's just really low quality. It seems it's showing those thin wispy clouds moving fast

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 8:28 AM

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it's showing the golden gate bridge melting away too lmao

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not the best HDRI choice, but it's just a gif on PR so i'll give them the benefit of the doubt

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:29 AM

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yeah, it's not really meant for product showcasing

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these are always some programmer art

waxen lantern Jul 18, 2020, 8:29 AM

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classic

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:30 AM

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I mean these images and anims are not really even targeted at end users but for their team itself, so it makes sense they don't put extra effort on flashy visuals

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 8:30 AM

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I still think this is just one part of it and the rest will come later. Just the easiest implementation (and another option for performance)

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just like you can use different sky types (Physical, HDRI, Gradient) I think we will haver different cloud types or cloud layer types (Basic, Volumetric, etc)

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:31 AM

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I hope so, but they already build on this like... for cloud shadows

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if they had some volumetric setup planned, surely that would need to arrive before adding more feats that depend on things

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 8:33 AM

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yea, that's still good. If I wanna use physical sky and also have clouds but if there's also volumetric clouds but it's a lot to render I also have this basic cloud layer with good result

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:34 AM

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it's just, in that case, you'd need to render the volumetric clouds on top

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cloud layer is on top of current sky

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so there would be yet another layer

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or true 3D clouds

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but that would be a bit of a waste for most games

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 8:36 AM

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You might be over thinking this.
It could be like how we have the Fog override that has
Exponential and Volumetric

Cloud layer could be the same or it could just be it's own thing and volumetric clouds are another override

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you add whichever one you want and nothing is on top of anything else

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 8:46 AM

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yeah, that would be nice

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but not getting my hopes up

drifting vault Jul 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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@turbid matrix look cool, any more hi-res resolution of GIF? 😄

dawn sorrel Jul 18, 2020, 9:04 AM

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🙄

hazy egret Jul 18, 2020, 9:06 AM

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I just finished checking out the shader pins for answers.

Does anyone have any info on how to bake shader information into textures with shader graph or hlsl?

indigo summit Jul 18, 2020, 3:09 PM

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oh it seems they are planning to finally include this? 🤔

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turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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DXR GI is getting funkier release by release 😄

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GI has been throwing nasty artifacts ever since 2020.2.0a16 but this got to next level now

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oh it seems they are planning to finally include this? 🤔
@indigo summit I doubt it, seeing them porting that to 7.x just suggests some internal test. Unity would not backport a feature like that to 7.x anymore

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it would go to 10.x and 9.x only at this point

indigo summit Jul 18, 2020, 3:33 PM

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awww man. . . . 😬

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 3:34 PM

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also they could still merge it to newer HDRP who knows

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I'd welcome extra features

indigo summit Jul 18, 2020, 3:35 PM

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last time i've check it still need a downsampled feature

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I think those artifacts are just 2020.2 alpha specific with DX12. I get that as well but less warpy and more of the flash with weird dark overlay like shadow. This only happens on DX12 with 2020.2 for me

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 3:57 PM

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yes

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 3:57 PM

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and HDRP. URP is fine with DX12

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 3:57 PM

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the shadow artifact is in all alphas since A16

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A15 is safe

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I also don't get those anywhere as much if I don't use SSGI / RTGI

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it really triggers bunch of issues

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only changes on a16 release notes that could somehow be related to this are:

* DX12: Fixed a performance issue when invoking dynamic vertex buffer updates. (1204804)
* Graphics: Added: Added new AddInstance overload to RayTracingAccelerationStructure which accepts a GraphicsBuffer defining a given number of AABBs, and, optionally, an instance transform for those AABBs.```

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but I'd guess the change is really something else, not marked there

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it definitely breaks between a15 and a16, it's not some HDRP change

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Wonder how much they are working on supporting the new consoles. This would improve DX12 a lot. I remember seeing a PR a few days ago about fixing something on an upcoming NDA platform for SRPs so I thought that's probably work for one of the new consoles

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 4:04 PM

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it's probably what is pushing the DX12 perf fixes to 2020.2

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they've already improved DX12 perf a ton on 2020.2

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 4:05 PM

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ah, actually it just says NDA platform not upcoming

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so could be anything

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 4:05 PM

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yup

glad tartan Jul 18, 2020, 4:05 PM

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yea, DX12 is getting some love for 2020

dawn sorrel Jul 18, 2020, 4:14 PM

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So I wrote a render feature for URP that renders objects on a certain layer to a temporary, then blurs that temporary a bunch and blits it back to camera target. The question I have is is it possible to save the depth of those objects and then run a separate blit with a shader that compares depths of the camera and that layer's depth so the final effect doesn't shine through geometry?

spiral ginkgo Jul 18, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Is it possible to switch between Forward Renderers during runtime in URP ?

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if you have like 2 of them defined for example

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or do extra render features in the renderers have any notable performance impact at all if objects from the relevant layers arent currently on the screen ?

fiery marsh Jul 18, 2020, 6:02 PM

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@spiral ginkgo Each render feature has the ability to be enabled/disabled which might be useful. (see ScriptableRendererFeature.SetActive). But having multiple Forward Renderers and switching between them is also possible. Each one should be added to the renderers list on the URP Asset, then I think the index can be set via the UniversalAdditionalCameraData component (which should be on the camera) using SetRenderer. I haven't tested but I believe it works during runtime.

spiral ginkgo Jul 18, 2020, 6:22 PM

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ok cool thanks

turbid matrix Jul 18, 2020, 9:32 PM

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hdrp water makes another appearance https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/commit/ce75956c0302b0ca69f4c491b4f2eb73c219c886

GitHub

Adding water shader used by environment ocean · Unity-Technologies/...

latent trail Jul 18, 2020, 10:34 PM

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so i have a bunch of quads just tossed on the ground. for some reason even if they all have the same material using an unlit shader with no lighting stuff included, unity still refuses to batch them. anyone know what the issue is?

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putting them in their own culling mask works but this seems roundabout for the case where a shader that is supposed to be unlit is actually still having a dependency on lights

latent trail Jul 19, 2020, 12:23 AM

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using both tags: "LightMode" = "ForwardBase" and "PassFlags" = "OnlyDirectional" fixed my issue without needing culling masks. odd that both are necessary when i am using purely a single pass custom vert frag shader

latent trail Jul 19, 2020, 12:42 AM

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ah double checked, OnlyDirectional applies only when the pass type is set to forwardbase

trim bone Jul 19, 2020, 1:31 AM

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anyone by chance using 10.x for Universal? seems that the blit renderpass from the URP rendering examples repo doesnt work anymore

dawn sorrel Jul 19, 2020, 10:50 AM

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@turbid matrix hey :)
when your gonna update your Unity_DXR_Test repo to match with unity 2020.1 /.2 and there hdrp ?

edgy tree Jul 19, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Hi, I'm using Unity 2019.4.3f1 and when I turn off Anti aliasing in HDRP Settings the game view gets all wiggley. Has anyone else had similar issue and came up with a fix?

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glad tartan Jul 19, 2020, 4:12 PM

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@edgy tree Not sure I've ever done that but you want to disable AA on the camera and not the Camera Override

indigo summit Jul 19, 2020, 4:23 PM

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anybody know how to use the new compositor? 🤔

prisma terrace Jul 19, 2020, 6:35 PM

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when creating a shader in Unity do you use Unlit? If I want my shader to have things like specular, do I need to use Surface Shader?

restive arch Jul 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Use PBR

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Whenever I use either the HDRP or the URP, my standard shaders turn pink, and then when I upgrade them to fit the Render Pipeline, the objects that use the shader disappear. Is there anyway I can use the Shader Graph without either render pipeline? Can I configure the URP in some way that will work with the standard shaders?

severe spear Jul 20, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Anyone here know why in Unity's standard render pipeline, a single object will count as two shadow casters (or even four shadowcasters when using shadowmasking) according to the Game window stats?

glad tartan Jul 20, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Ayy, finally.

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Also does anyone else noticed that the stats window in game view now shows more accurate data in 2020.2?

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This is for HDRP by the way

fast pumice Jul 20, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Hi, I am using URP for android game (Oculus Quest) and if I have checked the box "Opaque texture" in urp settings, all the UI is invisible in build. It works in the editor, however. Is the any way to overcome this issue? I need Opaque texture for the scene color node. Thank you very much

bitter stone Jul 20, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Question, how do i make my materials not be pink? I have UniversalRP activated. And i've upgraded my materials already to UniversalRP.

pearl hinge Jul 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Does anybody know how to batch meshes with transparent materials? As soon as I change my URP simple lit material from 'opaque' to 'transparent', my draw calls skyrocket.

drifting vault Jul 20, 2020, 12:37 PM

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@bitter stone show us your material properties fro misnpector

dawn sorrel Jul 20, 2020, 12:37 PM

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HDRP or URP, which is better ??

drifting vault Jul 20, 2020, 12:41 PM

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@dawn sorrel what is your goal in project ? Performance for mobile or AAA Graphic?

pearl hinge Jul 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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@dawn sorrel URP is better and more flexible. Substitutes HDRP and LWP

dawn sorrel Jul 20, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I would like the game to have ok graphics and support Android. i translated this with google translator @drifting vault

drifting vault Jul 20, 2020, 12:46 PM

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@dawn sorrel then use URP

dawn sorrel Jul 20, 2020, 12:46 PM

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OK thank you @drifting vault

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but will this work if i use URP https://youtu.be/L_Bzcw9tqTc

YouTube

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drifting vault Jul 20, 2020, 12:49 PM

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shaders maded by shader graph should be converted to URP without much problems or rewrited

dawn sorrel Jul 20, 2020, 12:50 PM

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ok

gusty sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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PrefabNest

scarlet hull Jul 20, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@pearl hinge no

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vernal burrow Jul 20, 2020, 3:59 PM

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No

hazy yoke Jul 20, 2020, 4:46 PM

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URP is meant to be a general "target all the things" pipeline to try and make it easy to develop more particular looks and build for the broadest set of consoles+mobile. HDRP is more for high end graphics aiming usually for high photorealism, and more targeting high end consoles.

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thats a very simple/broad description

hazy yoke Jul 20, 2020, 5:03 PM

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more info can be found at
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.universal@8.2/manual/index.html
and
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@8.2/manual/index.html

dawn sorrel Jul 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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so

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is there any eta on hdrp 10 being inside upm ? or even being virified for alpha ?

dawn sorrel Jul 20, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@restive arch No and no.

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Responding to a 2 days old q, don't mind me.

restive arch Jul 21, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Aw rats

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Thanks anyways

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Guess I gotta actually learn how to code shaders 🙃

hollow frigate Jul 21, 2020, 4:02 AM

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So I'm using the physically based sky for HDRP and I'm trying to create the moon as the celestial body on my directional light, but I can't figure out how to remove the base sun disk and just keep the moon texture. Is there a way to do that?

stark elbow Jul 21, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Does anybody know why my stencil override would keep getting wiped when I click off my URP asset? I'm out of play mode, I've tried saving project before clicking off, regardless of what I do my stencil override settings get removed

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Crisis averted, I had to save scene and then go on the passes themselves (underneath the URP asset in the project view)

turbid matrix Jul 21, 2020, 8:38 AM

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@dawn sorrel 10.xx will eventually be verified for 2020.2. Dont expect that to happen in the summer. 2020.2 betas start any moment now. First 10.x preview packages probably land on upm once 2020.2 is in beta

dawn sorrel Jul 21, 2020, 1:36 PM

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@restive arch anyway, standard shaders should be upgraded with no errors. Maybe your materials accidentally upgraded to Lit with transparent alpha and alpha = 0?

restive arch Jul 21, 2020, 1:42 PM

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I have no clue

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Maybe my potat computer is too much of a “virgin” to handle the “chad” SRPs

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...

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It sounds like I’m joking, but I really think my computer can’t support the Scriptable Render Pipelines

rich spade Jul 21, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@restive arch have you tried creating a new project with the URP template which includes a demo scene?
You should find your computer can handle URP without issue. I suspect it's just a configuration error in your upgraded project. Assuming the demo scene works you could then compare it's settings to yours to try and find the issue.

restive arch Jul 21, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I tried that multiple times. Both in 2018 and 2019. The issue there was that nothing rendered in the camera at all

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I only need the SRP to use Shader Graph anyways, right?

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It’s not like it completely stops the functionality of Unity

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So that means I’ll just have to learn to code my own shaders

scarlet hull Jul 21, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Or if using the built-in pipeline, use amplify shader

quick pelican Jul 21, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Is it possible to modify the Shadow Resolution from a script? I want to allow more granular graphics settings than just changing the entire quality setting

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Like if someone wants to just disable shadows but not get all the other stuff from low quality

glad tartan Jul 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

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@quick pelican That should be possible. Both hooking into the pipeline asset (Frame Settings) and disabling them from the lights. I think only HDRP has the Frame Settings so for URP it's just the main Pipeline asset

empty peak Jul 22, 2020, 2:19 AM

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What's a good way of looping in a Visual Effect Graph? I'd like to loop over each pixel of a Texture2D via Load Texture2D but I need a good way of incrementing through the x/y values for each particle.

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stark elbow Jul 22, 2020, 1:55 PM

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I'm overriding my stencil buffer to cut a hole out a mesh using a render objects render pass on URP, the cutout works as intended I was just hoping if anyone knew if or how to get this cut out to be smoothed, its currently just set to zwrite off, this is individual pieces that can combine to make bigger pieces as well so altering the actual cut out in terms of a fade would leave edges everywhere I assume?

trail flower Jul 22, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Hi Graphics.DrawMeshInstancedIndirect accepts a Bound parameter, that it seems to be used for culling, but it's not clear when this culling is done.

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is there anyone who knows this? Google doesn't help

quick pelican Jul 22, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Anyone know how to access URP fields in script? GraphicsSettings.currentRenderPipeline has basically no fields or functions I can use to edit any of the asset settings.

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Particularly how to access shadow resolution

stark elbow Jul 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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@quick pelican this helped expose a few for me https://gist.github.com/JimmyCushnie/e998cdec15394d6b68a4dbbf700f66ce

Gist

Exposes some Unity URP graphics settings that are (for some stupid ...

Exposes some Unity URP graphics settings that are (for some stupid fucking bullshit reason) private. - UnityGraphicsBullshit.cs

quick pelican Jul 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I appreciate the name of that script

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It certainly feels apt

stark elbow Jul 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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me to 😄

spiral ginkgo Jul 22, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Where does a volume data .asset fiel get referenced in URP? I have this SampleSceneProfile.asset that seems to be being used but i litterally cant find out where this is is referenced.

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nevermind i found it, its on a game object

trail flower Jul 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Hello, another question: is there a way to enable a depth prepass in URP without enabling MSAA?

hazy yoke Jul 22, 2020, 9:32 PM

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@trail flower should be an option on the render pipeline asset

trail flower Jul 22, 2020, 10:22 PM

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no it's not, as far as I get it, but I forced the URP code to enable it and it worked

fiery marsh Jul 22, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I've also seen some cases from others where the Depth Texture doesn't render correctly in game view (even when enabled), unless one of the following is also enabled : MSAA, Opaque Texture, HDR, or the Post Processing option on the camera (probably the better option).

trail flower Jul 22, 2020, 10:48 PM

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yep anyway I tried and it's not worth it

waxen lantern Jul 23, 2020, 5:12 AM

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What's a good way of looping in a Visual Effect Graph? I'd like to loop over each pixel of a Texture2D via Load Texture2D but I need a good way of incrementing through the x/y values for each particle.
@empty peak I recommend asking this in #✨┃vfx-and-particles channel

turbid matrix Jul 23, 2020, 6:29 AM

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It begins... https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/tree/urp/motion-vectors

dawn sorrel Jul 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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hi,
any hopes to get 60fps on low and mid glES 3.1 mobile devices with URP?? i got 20fps with lowest settings :[

hazy yoke Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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dang @turbid matrix how close an eye do you keep on the repo?

scarlet hull Jul 23, 2020, 3:04 PM

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I'm pretty sure he has an AR contact lens that display an notification for each push on the repo

weary fog Jul 23, 2020, 3:35 PM

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does motion blur not already exist in URP?

trim bone Jul 23, 2020, 6:06 PM

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i think per object doesnt?

turbid matrix Jul 23, 2020, 7:57 PM

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been testing this here: https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/commits/HDRP/ssr_improvement

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they now use blue noise for the non smooth surface sampling

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it does give more similar result to how currently raytraced reflections work (with obvious limitations of only being able to handle screen space data) but this also means more noisy result

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looking forward to seeing how they will denoise this once they go further with this

weary fog Jul 23, 2020, 8:00 PM

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speaking of HDRP ssr

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I can't get it to work on my project for some reason, I have SSR ticked on the HDRP asset, and my volume has an SSR component on it

turbid matrix Jul 23, 2020, 8:04 PM

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frame settings?

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also, if you use HDRP's forward-only rendering with MSAA, it disables SSR (there used to be nasty artifacts if you had both these enabled so they've just forced SSR off with this combo)

weary fog Jul 23, 2020, 8:23 PM

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yup it was the frame settings

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wish all of these settings were in the same place

turbid matrix Jul 23, 2020, 8:29 PM

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here's few comparisons for that upcoming SSR change

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my test scene is just HDRP template without any probes and one wall with metallic 1 and smoothness 0.85 set to it's material

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current SSR:

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wip SSR improvement:

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DXR reflection without denoising:

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iron flame Jul 23, 2020, 8:32 PM

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@turbid matrix TAA will prevent noise, albeit a little

weary fog Jul 23, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Yeah I just checked on my end, current SSR doesn't properly blur with higher roughness values

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so these changes are pretty exciting

turbid matrix Jul 23, 2020, 8:35 PM

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all these images have TAA enabled

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@iron flame

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they really need additional denoising for the SSR

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DXR reflections have this option already, I just didn't use it on these screens to give it more fair comparison

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here's the DXR reflection with denoiser enabled (remember the wall has smoothness of 0.85):

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iron flame Jul 23, 2020, 8:39 PM

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📎 Ekran_Goruntusu_57-02.jpeg

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low denoise + TAA works well for me.

turbid matrix Jul 23, 2020, 8:40 PM

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still, it needs some denoising unless it's mirror reflection

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it gets even worse if you do more rough material

iron flame Jul 23, 2020, 8:43 PM

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yes it is quite noisy on low smooth and high metallic objects. but enough for the reflection of water and cars in my scene

turbid matrix Jul 23, 2020, 8:47 PM

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yeah, it totally depends on your application

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both water and smooth clearcoat are closer to fully smooth surfaces already

iron flame Jul 23, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Though RT reflection is great, its performance is very bad, and this empty scene runs between 60-90 fps. It works 180 fps with current SSR. I'm looking forward to the new SSR.

turbid matrix Jul 23, 2020, 9:06 PM

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you use RT in perf mode?

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also it's not really a new SSR, just tweaks for the old one

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it's likely to run slower than current SSR as it does more work

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here's a diff from current WIP branch:

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the two other files just set the blue noise resource there

iron flame Jul 23, 2020, 9:18 PM

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RT is in performance mode. The models I use are made up of a lot of parts. it's actually normal for fps ray tracing. Still, even for the rtx 2080S, it's still not enough.

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ssr + realtime reflection probe is doing my job. With improved SSR, the result will be excellent.

dawn sorrel Jul 23, 2020, 9:22 PM

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HAPPENS IN HDRP... I don't know why this happens with every light source. If i'm rotate light or object with light its just disappears.

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png

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Please! Help!

iron flame Jul 23, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Are you using default rp and forward rendering?

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The lost lights are usually caused by the limit of light per object.

dawn sorrel Jul 23, 2020, 9:30 PM

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I'm new and im idk what i'm using. I'm just upgraded my 3d project to HDRP.

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Sorry for my english...

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And how to fix it?

iron flame Jul 23, 2020, 9:33 PM

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can you try deferred rendering.

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https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@9.0/manual/HDRP-Asset.html

dawn sorrel Jul 23, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Ok. Can i ping you if its didn't work?

iron flame Jul 23, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Lit Shader Mode deferred should not be such a problem. There are also maximum light settings in the light settings. check it too.

kindred kiln Jul 24, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Every time I hit play my lightmap disappears?

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I then need to rebake it.

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I'm not really bothered by it because lightmaps are known for being easy to rebake.

cyan delta Jul 24, 2020, 3:11 AM

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... any way to set post processing on individual layers?

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URP doesnt support this

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or better said, is there a way to do this on URP?

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I tried setting volume per layers and cameras but the PP from the top overlay camera still applies to the entire stack below

royal storm Jul 24, 2020, 6:47 AM

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@cyan delta that’s the nature of post processing. It will always apply to everything already rendered before it. The only way would be a custom render setup where you composite different renders as a final step, but as far as I know there’s no built in way to do that

civic herald Jul 24, 2020, 10:17 AM

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hey, i have added a custom render pass, configured it to run AfterRendering

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the pass executes a command buffer

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but currently i get two executions of it:

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its the FowBuffer

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but i don't understand why its always executing after Transparents, nor do i find any other setting except the one within the pass, which is set to m_ScriptablePass.renderPassEvent = RenderPassEvent.AfterRendering;

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does anyone know why this is happening?

scarlet hull Jul 24, 2020, 11:28 AM

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I've read somewhere that there is/was a bug in the frame debugger where individual cameras were not displayed, stacking up all the commands on a single one.
Maybe this is happening ?
Do you have for example game and scene view active at the same time ?

civic herald Jul 24, 2020, 11:30 AM

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had it yes, not anymore tho

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same result

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intrestingly the second pass is rotating and behaving crazy on mouse movement

scarlet hull Jul 24, 2020, 11:31 AM

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A preview camera ? Some realtime reflection ?

civic herald Jul 24, 2020, 11:31 AM

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i got it,

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setitng the material to unlit/transparent

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the second pass was the meta pass

turbid matrix Jul 24, 2020, 12:04 PM

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re: SSR, I kinda wonder why Unity doesn't do stochastic sampling for it, like in Frostbite

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like is there some patenting/licensing related issue there?

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there are few user made stochastic SSR ports for the built-in Unity renderer

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I've been tempted to port that to HDRP but it's been those "would be nice to test" things I'll never have time for

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considering SSR is not handled at the traditional PP stage on HDRP, I could imagine it could bring additional challenges vs having it as pure PP effect

rapid bay Jul 24, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Hi I’m new at this but
I installed the HDRP package to see what it is, then it messed up my whole project, everything in the scene turned into that purple placeholder material
I quickly uninstalled the package, now the normal materials are back again but they’re much darker than before. I don’t know if installing the package modified all my materials or changed any settings. How do I revert it 😢 I’ve now learned the lesson to backup first before doing something major the hard way...

scarlet hull Jul 24, 2020, 1:02 PM

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@rapid bay Maybe you just need to rebake lighting ?
HDRP uses other shaders than the standard pipeline, you will need to convert your materials (there is an automatic tool for that) to make the objects render properly again with HDRP.

rapid bay Jul 24, 2020, 1:55 PM

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I’ll keep that in mind, thanks!

civic herald Jul 24, 2020, 1:56 PM

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i have a command buffer on the cam at runtime

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but it doesnt show up in the frame debugger

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is there a hidden checkbox somehwere?

scarlet hull Jul 24, 2020, 2:02 PM

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HDRP/URP/Standard ?

civic herald Jul 24, 2020, 2:37 PM

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found it

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i did go back do standard

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the lighting was not executed therefore the BeforeLighting event was not fired

civic herald Jul 24, 2020, 5:18 PM

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can anyone explain to me why the depth map is not rendered on the standard pipeline?

north sigil Jul 24, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Last time I used URP it seemed incomplete and there was not much reason to use it over the builtin pipeline as it had too many features missing (AO, deferred rendering for example). Is this still the case as of Unity 2020.1.0f1?

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My use-case this time around is a 3D game built from 2D pieces, like Paper Mario

turbid matrix Jul 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@north sigil URP 10.x (2020.2) has SSAO

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I think deferred is also in 10.x but havent tested

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hmmm, I guess deferred is still wip as they havent even merged this yet https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/pull/716

GitHub

Enable DeferredRenderer asset UI menu. by kaychang-unity · Pull Req...

Purpose of this PR
Enable UI menu to create deferred renderer asset.

Testing status
Yamato: (Select your branch):
https://yamato.prd.cds.internal.unity3d.com/jobs/902-Graphics

Comments to reviewe...

north sigil Jul 24, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Ty, I took a look here https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.universal@9.0/manual/universalrp-builtin-feature-comparison.html and it does seem that SSAO is in but I couldn't find anything about deferred vs forward

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I'll probably stick to standard for this one though since it's more stable and I don't need fancy stuff like VFX Graph for this project

covert fulcrum Jul 25, 2020, 11:01 AM

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I just updated from URP to HRDP and this is my first time using HDRP. My first issue i came across was adding back in my skybox, i dont know where i dragin the material. Normally it is in the Lighting tab. Im using a 6 Sides Skybox. Thanks

turbid matrix Jul 25, 2020, 11:24 AM

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@covert fulcrum HDRP uses different sky setup. You can swap the sky type from visual environment component on Volume: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@8.2/manual/Override-Visual-Environment.html

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and what you'd want in that case is HDRI sky: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@8.2/manual/Override-HDRI-Sky.html

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HDRI sky wants a cubemap texture, I think there are some tools for converting the old style skybox to cubemap but I can't remember this more specifically as I've never done it

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hmmm,there's some guide here: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/class-Cubemap.html

covert fulcrum Jul 25, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Thanks @turbid matrix, i think ive gotten it figued out!

turbid matrix Jul 25, 2020, 11:29 AM

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actually, HDRI sky is probably current default sky

covert fulcrum Jul 25, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Yep got it, sky nows in

turbid matrix Jul 25, 2020, 11:30 AM

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cool

fiery swan Jul 25, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Hello, i am using a water shader which amongst other things adds foam at intersecting objects. I was wondering if there is a way i could make the foam not appear near certaing object (player - shark). Oh the shader is made using Shader Graph.

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iron flame Jul 25, 2020, 12:22 PM

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URP SSAO has been much better than I expected. Incredible performance when considering PPV2. there is also Direct Lighting, which is Unsupported in Forward Render.

turbid matrix Jul 25, 2020, 12:44 PM

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@iron flame I'm assuming it has no normal map details since no normal gbuffer on forward

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it's one of the biggest tradeoffs visually

late schooner Jul 25, 2020, 12:45 PM

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p sure URP fills depth at the same time as lighting

turbid matrix Jul 25, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I dunno if one could just handle that on texture specific AO map

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@fiery swan can you have shark to not write depth on shader/material settings? I have no idea if you can render it properly without

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also, you'd probably have more luck on that topic on #archived-shaders

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ah you already posted there :p

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would be nice to mention that so people wouldn't split the answers on multiple channels

fiery swan Jul 25, 2020, 12:51 PM

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@turbid matrix ok thank you very much, i will look into that. Yes I did. Ok thanks i will do that in the future

iron flame Jul 25, 2020, 1:04 PM

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SSOA does not currently work on Deferred rendering. nevertheless, this performance is Fantastic. 3840x2160 MSAA 8x + MSAA + Full quality AO RTX2080S 200+ FPS.

📎 Performance.jpg

trim bone Jul 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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anyone using urp 10.x from github, with a working blit renderfeature/pass? every version I try it doesnt appear to work now

dawn sorrel Jul 25, 2020, 9:02 PM

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📎 Annotation_2020-07-25_215924.png

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good crash while playing an hdrp scene with alembic animation , unity 2020.2 hdrp 10

dawn sorrel Jul 25, 2020, 9:22 PM

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@iron flame sorry for ping but idk how to fix this problem...

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HDRP:

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MAIN:

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SETTINGS:

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iron flame Jul 25, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I did not understand your question. warns that indirect multiplier is not realtimeGI. the light does not appear on the ground because there is a black material.

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hdrp uses real light units. skybox is very bright so it has to be a much brighter value in the spotlight. try to increase the spot light range

dawn sorrel Jul 25, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I'm talking about this problem. When I turn on the car or turn the light, the light only appears in a certain position. I mean, I can't turn the light.

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png

iron flame Jul 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Are the spotlights static?

dawn sorrel Jul 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Image like a scheme. Wheres circle black i have light. Where circle empty i have only FOG.

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Not static

full trail Jul 26, 2020, 6:07 AM

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how do i get raytraced shadows to show up on raytraced reflections

torpid bluff Jul 26, 2020, 9:58 AM

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i hope i'm in the right channel, i got a question about the "Texel validity" view

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i notice something i think is not normal when looking at my game using this view mode

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shaded :

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my pillar is made of two parts using the same material, the bottom and the middle

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am i right to think it's not okay to see the bottom part transparent while the upper part is not ? (orange lines i drew)

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and also (red lines i drew) i can see the sand mesh under the pillar through the bottom part but not the background sans mesh through the upper part of the pillar

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i can't make sense of this

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and i'm afraid it's killing my game performance if the rendering is processing more than it should by rendering stuff behind

turbid matrix Jul 26, 2020, 3:29 PM

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@full trail you dont

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RT reflections dont show other RT effects

drifting vault Jul 26, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@turbid matrix HDRP 9 preview 33 now has HDRI flowmap support 😄

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on 2020.1

turbid matrix Jul 26, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I'm just using HDRP from github, so 10.x something

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haven't tried that feat on it though as I fail to understand the point of it

drifting vault Jul 26, 2020, 5:00 PM

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well its has proceduarl animations

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looks cool

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Do you have in example files FLowmap texture?

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just want to see how to use flowmap texture, but 9x HDRP not include it in examples 😦

iron flame Jul 26, 2020, 5:42 PM

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HDRI Distortion works very well.

📎 movie20h41m.mp4

full trail Jul 26, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@turbid matrix but why noooot

hallow sphinx Jul 26, 2020, 10:26 PM

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@iron flame do you have any resources for finding skyboxes like that?

dawn sorrel Jul 26, 2020, 10:27 PM

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hey am wondering if anyone into udims?

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is it helpfull in car mesh ?

glad tartan Jul 27, 2020, 1:34 AM

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@hallow sphinx https://hdrihaven.com/hdris/

HDRI Haven

HDRIs: All | HDRI Haven

100% Free High Quality HDRIs for Everyone

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@dawn sorrel There are currently no shaders in HDRP or URP that supports UDIMS. For Built-in there's an experimental one made by Unity Labs a few years ago.

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 4:20 AM

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HDRI Distortion works very well.
@iron flame you had distortion on that gif?

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I mean all I saw was panning

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usefulness of panning I totally understand as well

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 4:38 AM

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HDRP/staging on github requires 2020.2.0a20 now

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had to revert these two commits to make current staging run on a18:

HDRP: Enable HAVE_DEFAULT_RENDERING_LAYER_MASK (only affects HDRP)
Add support for GPU instancing of mesh particle systems (#904) (only affects URP)

glad tartan Jul 27, 2020, 6:53 AM

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Ah, we should be getting a20 in a few days as last week we didnt get a19

iron flame Jul 27, 2020, 7:25 AM

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@hallow sphinx I don't know the license status. I downloaded it for testing.

http://noemotionhdrs.net/hdrday.html

abstract elbow Jul 27, 2020, 8:00 AM

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hey guys, i've installed the lightweight rp but when i try to create a rp i can only create a urp renderer so it doesn't work for 2d

dawn sorrel Jul 27, 2020, 8:26 AM

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@turbid matrix will you merge that in ur repo? btw

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i have preview 16 is it wort updating

rich spade Jul 27, 2020, 9:06 AM

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@abstract elbow lightweight rp got renamed to URP... URP does 2D/3D

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 9:39 AM

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nah

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it's easy enough to just pick 10.0-preview.x that works from official repo

drifting vault Jul 27, 2020, 10:38 AM

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hmmm when URP will support shadowmasks . It can be unlocked by hack but better to wait for official unlock

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 11:10 AM

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there's a WIP branch for it at least https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/Graphics/tree/universal/shadow-mask-support

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last commit 27 days ago

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but it's holiday season so wouldn't be too worried about that

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:11 PM

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How can I implement an underwater caustics effect in hdrp?

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:27 PM

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you're gonna need to establish a few more technical constraints for a meaningful answer

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the simplest solution is doing it yourself with a custom shader and adding animated caustics terms yourself

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:28 PM

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well

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:28 PM

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cookies are another popular choice with some advantages but Unity doesn't support animating light cookies in any way

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:28 PM

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I want the effect to show up on my terrain however

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yet I cant use projectors in hdrp

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:30 PM

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why not?

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you are not really making this easy for you

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:30 PM

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idk they just dont work

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I just cant get caustics to work

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I need them to show up on my terrain

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when I try and use projectors they dont show anything

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they just dont work, on the unity website they say hdrp does not support projectors

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I was wondering if there was another way to projects/display images onto terrain

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:31 PM

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what do you mean by projector now?

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decal projection definitely works on hdrp

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:31 PM

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unity standard assets includes various projectors

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is it possible to display mutliple images using a decal projector?

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I have a script to cycle through images in an array

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:32 PM

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you can assemble custom decal shader graph that animates the caustic effect

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:33 PM

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so similar to shader graph except the decal projector will use it as a projection material?

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:33 PM

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it's just a shader graph with decal master node

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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so whatever I put into there the decal projector will project?

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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SG supports flipbook so you can animate through it

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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like this

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turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I'm not going to say whatever as you are super vague all the time

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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if you dont mind me asking how do I use flipbook?

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I would advise against flipbook caustics, I don't think they look very good vs. procedural noise/scroll solutions

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like, it will work

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:35 PM

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I'm not going to say whatever as you are super vague all the time
@turbid matrix yea I understand bro its hard for me to explain, I rlly apprechiate the help tho!

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I would advise against flipbook caustics, I don't think they look very good vs. procedural noise/scroll solutions
@late schooner can I do that in the shadergraph also?

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:36 PM

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yes

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:36 PM

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sure, it's usually just procedural noises and scrolling UV offsets with time

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there's a neat trick in Diablo 3 for making nice, complex particle effects that works well with caustics

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:36 PM

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I have no idea of the realtime noise cost but would probably need to evaluate all options to see what's best for your use case

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:37 PM

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essentially scrolling two or more textures with different periods/rotations

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:37 PM

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right

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:37 PM

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it's dirt cheap and generates lots of shape variation

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:37 PM

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ok

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thanks

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:38 PM

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left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:38 PM

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ill try learn how to do that now xD

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:38 PM

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stamped at approx. the right time

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:38 PM

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oh thanks man

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so you just have four textures with different uv offsets?

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:38 PM

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two textures, as pointed out

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:39 PM

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and then I add a noise node?

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:39 PM

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there's a touch of scaling, etc. Watch the presentation, they break down all the effects in pretty significant detail

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:39 PM

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thanks very much

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:39 PM

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one issue with decal projection is that old HDRP versions only have one decal layer, so you pretty much have to omit all decals from objects that would get in the way of projection and can't have that effect

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this might not be a real issue but would depend on your project

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:40 PM

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its and underwater game so I think it will be fine

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 1:40 PM

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upcoming HDRP 10.x will have decal layers which gives you more control over it

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:40 PM

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awesoem

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:41 PM

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you will probably also want to throw in a cosine term there

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and get a light direction somehow

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:42 PM

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yea I got alot to work on

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light refraction, god rays etc...

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underwater stuff is hard man

late schooner Jul 27, 2020, 1:42 PM

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it's old, but OG Crysis had a decent implementation and Crytek did make some slides

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might be hard to track down on account of age, but I know it exists

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I have a copy in my paper archive somewhere

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:46 PM

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how do I assign my shader graph to my decal projector?

ripe fable Jul 27, 2020, 1:53 PM

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You save the shader made in shader graph, then create a material from the shader you just made, then create a decal projector that uses the material you made. 😄

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:53 PM

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yea I figured it out thanks

ripe fable Jul 27, 2020, 1:53 PM

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np

left igloo Jul 27, 2020, 1:53 PM

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got another issue tho

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I cant see my terrain texture under the projector

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the projector just covers it

scarlet hull Jul 27, 2020, 2:12 PM

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@late schooner Just to add my word here : You can do animated cookies (at least in HDRP) :

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dawn sorrel Jul 27, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Does anybody know what happens to camera target after PostProcessing pass?
When I try to inject a renderer pass that renders AfterRenderingPostProcessing, blitting from the ScriptableRenderer.cameraColorTarget into a temporary and back does nothing.
Meanwhile my effect is applied correctly if I use BeforeRenderingPostProcessing.
This is URP.

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Everybody here is on HDRP innit 😭

whole fossil Jul 27, 2020, 3:46 PM

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@scarlet hull could you elaborate a little bit more? I've tried to animate cookie for directional light in hdrp by simply moving the light source each fream and it caused a terrible performance drop. At least some time ago (iirc around 4.X HDRP).

Also - does anyone know about tiltshift/iris blur for HDRP post processing?

scarlet hull Jul 27, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Moving a light with a cookie assigned shouldn't have a huge impact on performance.
We have some tests with animated cookies : using a custom render texture as cookie, or a movie texture works. With the cost of HDRP needing to update the texture in the cookie atlas.

whole fossil Jul 27, 2020, 3:51 PM

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well, maybe it was some sort of a bug back then. maybe I'll try that on a more recent version. Thanks anyway

runic bay Jul 27, 2020, 4:45 PM

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With URP - has anyone gotten DrawMeshInstancedIndirect working well with Android? The best way I can describe my issue is that it works well on Windows/DirectX, but once it's on OpenGLES3 for Android - I can't seem to see any meshes drawn 🤔

eternal chasm Jul 27, 2020, 5:00 PM

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hey guys, please read my post here and let me know if you have a solution. thanks https://www.reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/hyvsrq/post_processing_on_builtin_render_pipeline_unity/

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turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 5:06 PM

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@eternal chasm https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.postprocessing@2.3/manual/index.html

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those docs should cover all needed steps

eternal chasm Jul 27, 2020, 5:07 PM

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been there, done that

turbid matrix Jul 27, 2020, 5:07 PM

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then it works

eternal chasm Jul 27, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I have even made a separate version of the project which I upgraded to URP for this, but that doesn't work either