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[sour fulcrum]

it can be fine if you know what your doing and what is happening

[limpid wren]

What are you trying to do with them? They're not intended to be changed at runtime but that doesn't mean you can't if you have a good enough reason

[grand snow]

No because in editor the assets will keep changes made in play mode

also may fool you into thinking "wow easy data saving"

[limpid wren]

I guess the answer to your question is "no" it's not good practice, so unless you have a good reason to break good practice then you should avoid it

[limpid wren]

It's so easy that I'm surprised Unity hasn't made a version of scriptable objects that -does- function that way

[sour fulcrum]

I don't think it's bad practice, it's just practice. If your uninformed on what it's doing then you could be doing bad practice with it though

[grand snow]

I think unity have avoided making their serialisation usable at runtime as it would introduce new challenges they dont want to solve

[sour fulcrum]

they are intended to be changed at runtime too, just depends on what your doing. the 2017 unity talk on them has multiple examples of doing so

[sage mirage]

I know what SO's do

[sick laurel]

Hi umm I need help with a code for my uni assignment ^^"

[fickle plume]

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[sage mirage]

So, instead I can just use a regular class and do change the values at runtime right?

[sick laurel]

aaa oki so
im tryna make an enemy like up the speed when the player is in the "range" the tutorial ive found only shows me ones for shooting games, and the enemies in that are stopping in place and then "shooting". i dont want my enemy to "shoot" i want him to speed up and then for the players position to be reset to the world spawn point when the enemy comes in contact with the player
im using unity 6.3 LTS
the 3d one

this is my code

[fickle plume]

!code

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[sick laurel]

ahh sorry

[sage mirage]

Hello, world!

Just use this 🙂

[fickle plume]

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[sage mirage]

if you know how to use it

[sick laurel]

oki thank u

https://hastebin.ianhon.com/e2c1

does that work

[naive pawn]

what's the issue you're having?

[sage mirage]

If you could explain your problem better? What exactly are you trying to accomplish? That was a bad description.

I see you have a method called AttackPlayer() which is empty

[naive pawn]

    //States
    public float sightRange, attackRange;

these wouldn't be states, btw

(the 2 bools are though, as well as walkPoint, walkPointSet, and alreadyAttacked)

[sick laurel]

ummm oki so, i basically have a chicken (the "enemy/agent") and i have the player controlling a fox, when the fox gets too close to a chicken, i want the chicken to first "chase" the player and once its close enough, i want the chicken to like dash toward the fox

[sick laurel]

ahh dang

[naive pawn]

that's what you're trying to do

what's the issue with the code you have right now

how does the code you have differ from the goal

[sick laurel]

coz im unsure how to like write it out

in the attackplayer() section

[naive pawn]

you'll have to design a system to allow that kind of attacking then

[sick laurel]

Would u be able to explain how i could

[naive pawn]

wait, this seems to conflict with what you said earlier

is it 3 separate states here?

player in sight range -> walk towards player
player in attack range -> dash towards player
player contact -> destroy player

is this what you're trying to say?

[sick laurel]

Theres the patroling state, the chasing state, and the attacking state

patroling is when the chickens just roaming

[naive pawn]

what is the attacking state exactly

[sick laurel]

dash + destroy player

or do they needa be separate

[naive pawn]

they wouldn't be separate states, i guess, since destroying the player is just a singular action

so right now are you asking about the dash, or destroying the player?

[sick laurel]

both ^^"

[naive pawn]

alright, one at a time

[sick laurel]

sorry im still learning

[sage mirage]

Do you know about Design Patterns and specifically State Pattern? Instead of using booleans first of all I would recommend implementing State Pattern like for such cases.

[sick laurel]

Let me look at it

[sage mirage]

I see you dont have any state pattern

[sick laurel]

what makes it a state pattern

[sage mirage]

https://refactoring.guru/design-patterns/state

[naive pawn]

is the "dash" just higher speed while the player is near, or a distinct boost of speed?

[sly shard]

Hello fellow humans

[sick laurel]

yes to the first one

[naive pawn]

cool, just set the navmeshagent's speed higher when the player is in that smaller range then

[sick laurel]

oooh oki

wat about the destroy thing

[naive pawn]

you'd need some way to detect that they're "touching", im not sure if the navmeshagent has something for that built-in

[sick laurel]

Mmm no idea

[naive pawn]

also not sure if rbs would interfere with the agent, i'm really not familiar with navmesh

you could just check distance though tbh

[sick laurel]

how would u usually check for collision

[naive pawn]

the physics system

but i don't know if that would interfere with the navmeshagent

[sick laurel]

would i not be able to

ahh oki

the tutorial i was following was using physics for the shooting thing they were doing

So maybe id be able to? i can give it a try i guess

the vid is from 5 years ago, i dont know if the function wouldve changed alot since then

[sage mirage]

Can you send a video by the way of your game to see what's going on?

[sick laurel]

i dont have alot right now

[sage mirage]

Are you a beginner?

I assume right?

[sick laurel]

Yes i am

[fickle plume]

@sage mirage Don't start with the off-topic here

[sage mirage]

So where is the kitchen and where is the fox you were saying?

[sick laurel]

chicken is the cube, the fox is the sphere for now

[sage mirage]

What about the egg?

[sick laurel]

egg is the oval looking shape, its wat the fox is going to try to get and get "points"

i needa figure out how to do the scoring as well

[naive pawn]

this is all kinda unnecessary...

[sick laurel]

Wdym

[naive pawn]

this thread of conversation is irrelevant

[sick laurel]

Ohh right

[fickle plume]

Pretty sure agents have a callback when they reach destination. Otherwise you need to handle collision events yourself

[sick laurel]

Ah

[naive pawn]

hm that'd only work if the agent was right on top of the target though, wouldn't it? or can you configure the threshold

[sick laurel]

That is useful then, ill just needa figure out the collision

on top as in literally on top?

[sage mirage]

if you want to handle collisions there are ways if you want to know...

[fickle plume]

!learn You should check tutorials about trigger colliders and events on

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[naive pawn]

literally at the same position, inside of each other

unless there's a configurable threshold

[naive pawn]

so would the rb not interfere with the agent?

[sick laurel]

Yes pls

[fickle plume]

I don't remember how agent handles physics, pretty sure I used with it for one of the game jams.

[sick laurel]

Would it have changed from 5 years ago

[naive pawn]

probably not

(though like i mentioned earlier you could probably just use a distance check for a quick & dirty solution)

[sick laurel]

xD okay

[fickle plume]

That is the wrong chat :)

[naive pawn]

-# breaking news, fogsight caught sending off-topic

[fickle plume]

It was an agricultural discussion for all concerned.

[sage mirage]

@sick laurel AI & Pathfinding and these concepts are advanced enough and you have to get a deeper understanding of Design Patterns like State Pattern along with Finite State Machine, as well as Pathfinding algorithms and more. I dont think you have to mess right now with these stuff like A*, Dijktra and more. Yes just do what chris said.

[naive pawn]

they're using a navmesh

they aren't doing manual pathfinding

[sick laurel]

yea i dont think i can do manual pathfinding

[sage mirage]

In Unity there is a built in way to do all these stuff?

[naive pawn]

what do you think a navmesh is

[sage mirage]

and it actually does everything?

Like what about pathfinding or whatever you want to do with AI?

NPC's lets say

[naive pawn]

just go it man

[sick laurel]

https://hastebin.ianhon.com/9b27

does this look right

[teal viper]

Why are you asking?

[sick laurel]

to be sure? i dont wanna break anything

[teal viper]

Is there anything specific you're worried about?

[sick laurel]

just wanna know if i did the increase speed thing correctly

[teal viper]

Does it not work?

[sick laurel]

it gives me an error message when i try to attach the script to the object

[teal viper]

Okay. Then perhaps that was what you should have started with. As well as share the error message.

Asking if "it looks right" is a very lazy way to annoy people. Be more concise in your questions.

[sick laurel]

Ah sorry

it says "Can't add script component 'chickenScript' because the script class cannot be found. Make sure that there are no compile errors and that the file name and class name match."

the script is called chickenScript

[teal viper]

What unity version are you using?
Older versions required you to name the class and the file name the same way.

And your class is called "ChickenScript".

[sick laurel]

its unity 6.3

[teal viper]

Hmm... Okay. Are there any other errors?

[sick laurel]

it gave the same error message when i fixed it

[teal viper]

Take a screenshot of your console.

[sick laurel]

oki one sec

[teal viper]

Okay. Take a screenshot of the warning that you mentioned.

[sick laurel]

huh it let me do it this time

^^"

sorryy thank u

giving me this now tho

[polar acorn]

Something on line 34 of ChickenScript is null but you're trying to do stuff to it anyway

[sick laurel]

ohhhhh that makes sense

[sage mirage]

By the way, one guy in this server recommend me this website a year ago or 2. Check it out its amazing, you can find explanation on these errors, warning or whatever related with Unity.
https://unity.huh.how/

[sick laurel]

thank uu!

[elfin pike]

I should make settings menu IDisposable?

[delicate zinc]

https://pastebin.com/GfJu0BRz
im so confused to why the vector2.reflect line when the border is hit wont work, every other velocity related line works, but its specifically if i try to apply velocity after hitting the wall it doesnt wanna work
the first image is the walls and the second one is the fighters

[delicate zinc]

ok wait nevermind
if i just set the velocity directly like for example rb.velocity = new Vector2(10, -10); it works, so its specifically reflect

[slender nymph]

by the time OnCollisionEnter2D runs your velocity may have already changed from the collision, store the velocity in FixedUpdate or Update and use that stored velocity instead

[delicate zinc]

ok i just realised this is the weirdest way to code this ever im just gonna use rb.addforce since i think thatd work the same way but if it doesnt illl try this (i was typing this message before you replied)

[slender nymph]

AddForce isn't going to change anything if the issue is related to the Vector2.Reflect, you'd still get the same incorrect result from Reflect

[delicate zinc]

ouh oka ill just try the thing you said then

ok so i tried that and it didnt change anything, but i think i found the issue
whenever they hit the wall the velocity in the info section just does this??? instead of reflecting, i think its trying to go positive but it just wont for some reason

[slender nymph]

show what you tried

[slender nymph]

so not in the Reflect call then?

[delicate zinc]

wait wrong part of the code whoops

[slender nymph]

that's still wrong

[delicate zinc]

WAAIT if orgot to change the rb.velocity in the second bit

[slender nymph]

you still need to be assigning to rb.velocity, the only place you would replace rb.velocity with Velocity is inside that Reflect call

[delicate zinc]

ohhh ok

oh my god that worked tysm

[cunning bramble]

[dark hatch]

i was using this to have enemies follow the player. "target" = player.transform.position. but the enemies movement is very jittery. it seems that when i remove the 2nd line (so they dont rotate at all and keep moving in 1 continous dir), there is no jitter. any way to fix this jitter? i have already tried stopping any rotating if the angle is <2 deg, and setting rigidbody interpolation

[naive pawn]

are you getting the rb every frame lol

[dark hatch]

yes

does it create problems

[naive pawn]

you should not, you should cache that retreival

[naive pawn]

is this in Update?

[dark hatch]

let me try that real quick if that changes anything

[naive pawn]

it won't

[dark hatch]

yeah

[naive pawn]

it's just good practice

[dark hatch]

should i move it to fixedupdate

[naive pawn]

i'd guess the this is running before the player so it's getting values from the previous frame, try putting this in LateUpdate instead

[dark hatch]

ok

[naive pawn]

ah wait it's with an rb too isn't it

you should probably be rotating with the rb, not via the transform
also check the interpolation settings

[dark hatch]

i used interpolation (both modes as well as none)

and how can i rotate with rb ?

theres this moverotation function does that work?

[naive pawn]

you could use MoveRotation with the angle calculated from target - transform.position

you could use eg Mathf.Atan2 to get the angle from that direction

wait actually there's probably a better way, one sec

[naive pawn]

ok you could use that delta, and get the angle compared to Vector2.right, iirc
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Vector2.SignedAngle.html

[dark hatch]

so i would create a quaternion with the current rotation + the delta ?

and use that on moverotation

[naive pawn]

you don't need quaternions

[dark hatch]

it seems the moverotation function takes a quaternion as input

[naive pawn]

you don't need the current rotation either

are you looking at the wrong docs

[dark hatch]

hold on

[naive pawn]

it takes either a float or a quaternion, and a float would be simpler to work with here

[dark hatch]

oh yeah i was

i was seeing the rigidbody3d moverotation

that one uses a quaternion

yeah okay that does seem to fix it, thanks

i really need to look into these methods that rigidbody has

[elfin pike]

I have this game object. [Pause] has script, it received with inspector [Pause_Canvas] reference. After scene reload, console throw error, that reference doesn't exist, but looking in inspector reference is set.

[polar acorn]

If you see one that has the reference set, but you have an error saying that one of them doesn't have their reference set, then the one you are looking at is not the one that threw the error

[elfin pike]

There shouldnt be anything preventing gameobject instance deletion.

Script on [Pause] gets deleted. Canvas doesnt have any of my scripts

[slender nymph]

show the full error and the relevant code, otherwise we're just going to be guessing at what the issue is

but if i had to guess, i'd say it's probably a DDOL object that had a reference and when the scene was reloaded the object it was referencing was destroyed and a new, unrelated, one was created

[slender nymph]

!code

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[slender nymph]

also you're subscribing and unsubscribing two separate delegates to the performed event, if you want to use an anonymous function for that then you need to store it in a variable and use the variable to subscribe and unsubscribe, otherwise just use a regular method

[elfin pike]

thanks fixed

[naive pawn]

(just in case it wasn't this) you can use EscapePress directly instead of wrapping it in a lambda

[elfin pike]

im trying to give players access to customise all inputs in the game

[naive pawn]

....ok

[potent portal]

can someone help me. im making a multiplayer game with a friend and now im getting "You are not signed in to the Authentication Service. Please sign in."

im super confused because it was working earlier

nevermind

i fixed it by restarting the project

[balmy vortex]

hey so like just to sanity check myself rq is this actually a good way of telling if the player's standing on something?

or is it secretly like horrible

[slender nymph]

physics queries are a good way to handle that, though i'd personally use something with some volume to it, like a CheckBox or BoxCast so that you aren't considered ungrounded when 51% of the player is hanging over an edge or if there's a tiny gap in the ground right where the center of the player is

[sage mirage]

Hey, guys! By the way, I had a question earlier today about scriptable objects and that I don't have to change them at runtime. So, I figured out something, basically what I have to change is the copy of the scriptable object not the scriptsble object itself. What I mean is I have to do something like let's say

int currentLives = playerData.MaxLives that is possible and the best practice when you want to change a value of a scriptsble at runtime that was my question basically. What do you think?

[eternal needle]

yes if you want to mutate data from a scriptable object, you should copy it first and mutate that instead. If you're doing this for a lot of values, you should make a class which contains that SO to make it easier

[naive pawn]

are return/Physics/Vector3 supposed to be colored like that?

or have you actually just.. not configured your ide in all this time

[sour fulcrum]

at that point why not just dupe the so? 😛

[eternal needle]

🤷‍♂️ why clone it

[limpid wren]

Let's say I have a singleton object that spawns damage numbers on hit
Currently the implementation is that the damaged object references the singleton and asks for a damage number to spawn upon dealing damage.

I don't like that implementation and would like it to go the other direction. I want the damage number manager to be able to tell that damage has been dealt and then decide if it wants to spawn damage numbers.

But I'm not sure about the implementation. Do I just use events for this?

For me, I don't want every object to have to know about the damage number manager

[verbal dome]

Sounds to me like you want to use events here, yeah

[limpid wren]

But then the question is, how do I get the damagenumbermanager to subscribe to all the required events without creating an equivalent god object

The reason I don't like my implementation is I just created a new scene to test something and got a null reference because I forgot to add the damagenumbermanager.

If I add a damagenumbermanager but get an error because I forgot to add an enemymanager or whatever then that feels like the same thing

[slender nymph]

I would go with a specific component for handling receiving damage that invokes a static event upon receiving any damage, it can also pass itself or its transform or whatever so that whatever subscribes to the event has the info it needs

[verbal dome]

What events do you need apart from something like Action<HitInfo> HitHappened?

[sour fulcrum]

scriptableobject singleton time

[limpid wren]

I already have an event like this, the question is how do I subscribe to it.

Like if barrels and crates and slimes and everything that has HP fires this event, the damagenumbermanager would need to know about all of those so it can listen to the event

[limpid wren]

Events can be static?

[slender nymph]

yes

[limpid wren]

That unlocks a lot in my brain at once

[slender nymph]

and if you have a single component that handles the damage that each damageable object has, then you only ever need the one static event so your worry about needing to reference a bunch of different things is unnecessary

[verbal dome]

The objects would just invoke the event when they take damage, or you can invoke it from your damage system

(Latter better ofc)

[limpid wren]

yes, but how would the damagenumbermanager be listening to them

[slender nymph]

this also has the benefit of potentially simplifying your logic that applies damage if you don't already have it set up like this

[limpid wren]

I could have two events then really. One "AnyDamageHappened" event and one localized for that object.

[slender nymph]

yup, that way other components on the same object can subscribe to the localized non-static one. and anything else that does stuff on any damage can subscribe to the static one

I would go with a UnityEvent for the non-static one so you can subscribe in the inspector then just a regular C# event for the static one since you'd only be subscribing in code

[limpid wren]

And because it's a static event I don't need any instance of an HP/Damage component to subscribe to it

[slender nymph]

correct

[limpid wren]

That makes sense

I'll try that, thanks!

Also about to rewrite every god object to use that pattern instead

[grand snow]

please be careful, static is not a magic ticket to make things easier
Some things should be member variables always. Also a "god" object can be somewhat avoided depending on design and hierachy of your systems

[limpid wren]

The alternative here was a singleton so I am just trading out one "static" for another

But if you have other suggestions for a damagenumbermanager to be able to know about every health component on every enemy/object I'm open to suggestions!

[grand snow]

what does it do?

[limpid wren]

In this case it just displays a damage number in the location when damage is received. I used to have the HP-component call to the singleton damage number manager when this happened.

My general issue has been that I've been having small, placeable objects that want to to generic things. Enemy spawners that want to spawn enemies, things that want to play sound effects or spawn pooled particle effects, etc.

I've been using singleton "manager" objects to deal with that, but that means every scene needs like 10 of these god objects to work

[grand snow]

Right. To me an ideal hierachy could be UI <- Player <- Level Manager -> On Enemy Spawned/Created -> Enemy -> Base -> OnTakeDamage

The part i think that matters the most would be "how can the UI know when something takes damage"? Whatever makes and handles enemies should propogate some event up the chain or provide easy access to the objects with said events.

[limpid wren]

What I had was that HP-component talks to the DamageNumberSpawner upon damage taken.

What I now have is that the DamageNumberSpawner is listening to a static "takedamage" event.

That means I can have either object in the scene without the other without a null reference exception

[grand snow]

What i propose is more flexable. If said UI is present or enabled then it can initialize itself. Otherwise nothing happens and happy days

A static "took damage" event isnt too bad but is very general

I get that what I propose requires good existing design to allow for handling initialisation this easily

[limpid wren]

I'm not sure if I want events on objects that don't seem to fit that object. Like would the player have a "enemy took damage" event? Or the level manager?

[grand snow]

thats just me trying to communicate "flow" not events

[limpid wren]

Sure, but it still seems like these objects expect the existence of other objects, which is what annoyed me to begin with and why I started this rewrite

[grand snow]

level manager inits level, spawns player and player UI. Player UI init is given references to player + level manager ect...

Some things cant be avoided but if designed well its more logical

e.g. player ui requires a player to exist but thats fine because its directly related to a player

[limpid wren]

Sure. I just got frustrated from adding manager after manager and lots of objects just to get a scene to work here

I'd love to have the player UI disconnected from the existence of the player too, if I could

[grand snow]

//Damage Number UI
public void Init(Player player, LevelManager levelManager)
{
    levelManager.OnEnemySpawned += OnEnemySpawned;
}

private void OnEnemySpawned(Enemy enemy)
{
    enemy.OnTakeDamage += ShowDamage;
    enemy.OnKilled += OnEnemyKilled;
}

private void ShowDamage(EntityBase entityBase, float damage)
{
    //Stuff
}

private void OnEnemyKilled(EntityBase entityBase)
{
    entityBase.OnTakeDamage -= ShowDamage;
    entityBase.OnKilled -= OnEnemyKilled;
}

example i just created out of thin air blah blah

[limpid wren]

Yeah but the issue is the same here. What calls "OnEnemySpawned"

This now requires a reference to the levelmanager, right?

And a player

[wicked stratus]

Not sure where to ask this, but
say you have 3 active items and an attack stat of 100
item 1 = 20% increase to attack stat
item 2 = 10% increase to attack stat
item 3 = 40% increase to attack stat
is it more typical/better game design to calculate percentage bonuses like this:

(20+10+40) = 70% attack boost->
attack is now 170

or like this:

100 + 20= 120
120 + 12 = 132
132 + ~53 = 185
attack is now 185

[limpid wren]

That's kind of a design question, but both are equally common.

[verbal dome]

The second one is trickier because order matters

But yeah totally a design question

[wicked stratus]

ah okay, I could see the second one get out of control if there's a ton of stuff going on

is there a design help/question channel here?

[eternal needle]

the order only matters if theres addition done between

[verbal dome]

True

[eternal needle]

the first way is usually gonna be easier to follow and balance. Though its really up to what you want in your game.
The only real thing to keep in mind is to do all additive bonuses first then multiplication

[limpid wren]

The question here is if the buffs are multiplicative or additive.

I just played raccoin and had a buff that was + 50% every time something happened and I was getting several thousand trillion points because it was multiplicative.

[wicked stratus]

Gotcha. I think in this case the first is probably what I want to do, though I feel it may be a tad bit trickier to implement for some reason

[limpid wren]

If it's easy to lose control over the amount of buffs the player has, go additive. If it's just one or two buffs, go multiplicative

[wicked stratus]

I think there'll be quite a lot

[limpid wren]

Instead of adding / removing buffs from a base damage number, make a list of buffs and then tally them up when changes happen

So you have List<Buffs>, and just add all the buff.amount's together before applying it to damage

[eternal needle]

theres nothing different about it. No matter what you do, you should always be grouping and summing all additive + multiplicative buffs and applying them at once
Your math isn't how the game should actually calculate it. The real calculation you're asking here is 20 + 10 + 40 = 70% (1.7 final multiplier) or 1.2 * 1.1 * 1.4 = 1.848 final multiplier

additive for example would mean you have a +1. Multiplicative means *1.4

[wicked stratus]

In the second example, I don't think 1.848 would be the correct multiplier for what I laid out (Edit wait it might I'm not thinking properly )but also I don't think the second way is the way to do it for me anymore to begin with-> I'm going to switch to the first yeah.

[grand snow]

Maybe a "level" has many things that spawn enemies or maybe just one thing. Hopefully you know the answer and know then how this connection works. The point is to either use new events to expose inner events or provide access to inner objects/managers/lists/whatever

[eternal needle]

it is correct, i used a calculator

[wicked stratus]

yeah I realized right after send 😭 dunno what I was thinking

but yes thank you everyone

[limpid wren]

I do, my goal was to avoid having all those connections. I'm trying to get rid of them

[grand snow]

Is there a good reason for this? one magic leap via a static event is a big assumption that is usually deemed poor design.
Though tbh id say go for it if this is not a big project for many people to work in

[limpid wren]

I was trying to set up a basic test scene and every object was asking for more objects to be added. What I wanted was the ability to just have the level manager exist with nothing else in the game

Or, one enemy, for example

[grand snow]

What i describe allows for this too but i guess that isnt getting through

anyway mull over it or not

[limpid wren]

In your example the damagenumbermanager seems to reference the levelmanager, so it would at least need that, no?

[eternal needle]

regardless i think you should also reread what i wrote because i think theres some wrong terminology being used. A multiplicative buff is something being applied like "I want 50% more". If you have 2 50% buffs, you can add them to make it 100% but doesn't make it additive. That's still being multiplied to your stats (or whatever its used for). if you multiplied 1.5*1.5 instead, that's exponential

[limpid wren]

The enemies immediately barking about wanting to contact the damagenumbermanager and all kinds of other stuff was really annoying to work with

[grand snow]

Yes. If it needed to be more general then some base class/interface would be used instead of "level manager"

instead of "jump over everything with static event"

as too many of those means spaghetti oh fuck what does anything do

Ill leave it there

[limpid wren]

A multiplicative buff is a buff that adds multiplicative to whatever buffs are already there.

So 50% + 20% additively is +70%
50% + 20% multiplicatively is 1.5*1.2

[eternal needle]

the 70% is a multiplicative increase. It doesn't matter that numbers are being added to get there

[limpid wren]

No, that is called "additive"

[eternal needle]

increasing something by 70% is multiplication

[limpid wren]

Yes, but adding two multipliers together means they are additive buffs

My "Sword of +50% damage" is additively added to my "+20% damage" orc racial buff to turn into 70%

If they were multiplicative buffs, they would combine to +80% because 1.5 * 1.2 = 1.8

[eternal needle]

Yes numbers are being added, the final value of 70% is multiplied to the stats.
The difference in what im saying is values like +1 (added to your stats) need to be done first in the calculations to remain consistent so order of operations do not affect the final result

[wicked stratus]

If I implement it as follows (pseudocode, ik it would be different like with the list format)

List<float> multiplierList = new List<float>(0.2, 0.1, 0.4);

int attackBaseStat = 100;
float ourMultiplier = 1f;

foreach(AttackMultiplier am in multiplierList){
ourMultiplier += am;
}
int ourAttackStat = RoundToInt(attackBaseStat + attackBaseStat*ourMultiplier);

would this get me the correct additive outcome? Just want to make sure I understand your point.

[limpid wren]

That is called a flat buff. You can have a +50% additive buff

[limpid wren]

This is additive yes

[eternal needle]

the only thing id be wary of is using an int for the final stat here

[limpid wren]

foreach(AttackMultiplier am in multiplierList){
ourMultiplier += am;
}

If you switch this to a *= it's multiplicative

[wicked stratus]

why?

[eternal needle]

you can display everything cleanly as ints in the UI but you're losing out on accuracy if keeping everything as ints

[wicked stratus]

ah ok that makes sense

[eternal needle]

a 49% increase to 1 damage is still 1 damage if you use ints

[wicked stratus]

gotcha, thank you

[eternal needle]

0.2*0.1*0.4 is not going to give the correct numbers there

[limpid wren]

It gives correct numbers for a multiplicative system

[eternal needle]

its been awhile since ive played games which use these kind of systems but yea i do remember these terms. I was thinking more from a mathematical standpoint

[limpid wren]

err, you're right

if the buff numbers were 1.2, 1.4, etc then it would be multiplicative

with the numbers given then they would be debuffs

[tight sapphire]

i tried making a 2d game but its blue i added a capsule but it is only a blue screen when i press play how fix?

[rich adder]

screenshot

[tight sapphire]

one second

here

[rich adder]

its just a blank camera, the capsule is probably not infront of the camera

[tight sapphire]

its 2d

[rich adder]

right which is why there is no skybox and its a plain color

a capsule would still show if it were infront of the cam

[tight sapphire]

this is the scene

[rich adder]

without camera selected you cant even see the frustum.. and you have to check z position to be front (camera should be at -10 ish, object on 0)

[tight sapphire]

okay

[rich adder]

you should keep the GameView and SceneView tabs side by side its easier to see

[tight sapphire]

i just started all i know how to do is add a object and add gravity thats it

okay

[rich adder]

should go through the unity courses

[tight sapphire]

it works now somehow

[rich adder]

btw unless code related correct channel for this type of question goes in #💻┃unity-talk

[rich adder]

cause now its infront

[tight sapphire]

so unity talk is for visuals?

[tight sapphire]

okay

thank you

[rich adder]

its general questions about unity

this is more like scene navigation / usage than visuals

btw check out 👇

[radiant void]

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[tight sapphire]

is there a turtorial for top down kinda 2d like the binding of issac?

[rich adder]

probably, but you should really be careful following an entire course on something specific without learning the editor basics first

most 2d movements are the same if you learn the fundamentals

[tight sapphire]

okay

[rich adder]

check pins there are also c# courses, I'd start there if you don't have any c# exp

[valid heath]

this is probably a dumb question because i think i already have the answer, but if I want an object to follow the cursor, is it best practice to just stick something like "transform.position = mousePosition" inside of Update()? or is there a better way than that

i just dont like the idea of something updating every frame but if thats really just the way you're supposed to do it then ig its fine lol

[rich adder]

thats what its there for

btw new input system has events so you don't have to use update

[valid heath]

wdym?

[rich adder]

which part

[valid heath]

oh uhh input system events for update?

[rich adder]

if you never worked with events you should probably learn those first, otherwise is just confusing.
think of it like a method that runs when something happens, like a button pressed etc.

mouse movement, already has that event and you can assign the position there or whatever but its fine doing it in update not a big deal

[valid heath]

oh i know what events are, i just didnt know there was one for mouse movement

ill look into that, thanks

[waxen adder]

How expensive is GetComponent?

[naive pawn]

compared to if, very
compared to a recursive file lookup, not at all

everything is relative

you shouldn't worry about the specifics really

[waxen adder]

Yeah, I might be going down a really dumb rabbit hole lol.

[rich adder]

just don't use it in update like every frame and you're fine..

[sick laurel]

https://hastebin.ianhon.com/d8d1

whys this movement not working TvT

[naive pawn]

Move should only be called once per frame

gotta be more specific than "not working" though

[sick laurel]

like it doesnt move when i press play but also doesnt give me any errors

[naive pawn]

do some debugging, see if Update is being called

if it is, see if it's receiving input

if it is, see if currentSpeed is correct

etc

[sick laurel]

ahh wait i forgot to add the ground check

it works now

[pliant bridge]

Can someone help me about this , when i use brush tool in tile palatte to paint the map
but i have world generator , so when it generates

it becomes like 2nd pic

[naive pawn]

what's the issue exactly? are those 20 tiles suddenly turning into the whole map or something

[pliant bridge]

kind of, but uhh i fixed it, the issues is sprite Pixel Per Unit, i put it in wrong input so when i do the brush , it costs 4 pixel per item
but when i fixed it, it become 1 pixel 1 item , so when it generated ,it won't conflict each other. 🤓 👆

not pixel, i meant grid tile

[jovial heron]

how am it supposed to slice this asset

[burnt vapor]

This is a coding channel

#🔎┃find-a-channel / #📑┃channel-directory

[jovial heron]

ok

[toxic cloak]

Hello how do i rename scriptable objects with on validate?

is it possible without any errors

    {

#if UNITY_EDITOR
        string path = AssetDatabase.GetAssetPath(this);
        AssetDatabase.RenameAsset(path, "Example");

#endif
    }```

currently i tried this and works but i get some red editor errors

[sour fulcrum]

if you have errors just post them

otherwise people need to ask for them

[toxic cloak]

UnityException: Calls to "AssetDatabase.RenameAsset" are restricted during asset importing. Please make sure this function is not called from ScriptedImporters or PostProcessors, as it is a source of non-determinism.

[sour fulcrum]

sounds like no

what are you trying to do

[toxic cloak]

like rename my assets based on the data i assign to that SO

[sour fulcrum]

have you tried just changing .name? might not work it's been a second since i've messed with it

[toxic cloak]

yeah i tried it tries to compare something and gives me an error only working way i found is this

[wintry quarry]

I think the right way to do this is with an Asset Postprocessor

i.e. https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/AssetPostprocessor.OnPostprocessAllAssets.html

[rancid tinsel]

any idea why the min isn't working? I can set to 0 and negative

setting to 0.1f also doesn't change the default value of 0

[somber solstice]

hey all!
can anyone tell me if it will actually help with performance to call System.GC.Collect() during loading screens?

[rancid tinsel]

ok using OnValidate in parent scriptableobject did the trick, still weird though

[sour fulcrum]

Post code + unity version

[wintry quarry]

You want Range

I don't think Min has ever done anything in the inspector

[rancid tinsel]

range is only if I want to clamp to max as well though

[wintry quarry]

make a really large max

[sour fulcrum]

The attribute only affects inspector usage, if it initialised at 0 it wouldn’t clamp it iirc

[wintry quarry]

e.g. float.MaxValue

[sour fulcrum]

Online says it should work

[wintry quarry]

probably not

[rancid tinsel]

it was in inspector tho and I tried getting the list to 0 and then repopulating

[rancid tinsel]

I've definitely used it before but my set up is probably like an edge case of an edge case

[sour fulcrum]

!code

[radiant void]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
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To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
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```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[rancid tinsel]

I know how to paste code, just showing why my set up is weird

[wintry quarry]

nothing weird here

[sour fulcrum]

Semi unrelated: highly recommended serialized dictionaries for weight based stuff, works pretty nicely imo https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/utilities/serialized-dictionary-243052?srsltid=AfmBOorl8TU_shqPjDfqs6AdhLZN7bTOYtr6QmM2vYEaWKbhY1mdJTXt

[rancid tinsel]

thanks, I'll definitely check it out!

[somber solstice]

thank you, i figured as much

back to looking for more ways to optimize gc

[swift crag]

notably, garbage gets collected pretty frequently, even if you aren't allocating tons of garbage

(and there will absolutely be a GC collect when you unload a scene)

i've noticed that the collect is the main source of lag when switching scenes

[teal viper]

Is it actually creating an issue for you to optimize it?

[cosmic dagger]

You never need to call it manually . . .

[somber solstice]

Well, I do have quite a lot of garbage piling up...
I removed most string creation from my code, and swapped to using material property blocks instead of material instances to save up on memory, etc...
But I have memory leaks when unloading reloading scenes repeatedly and I see some garbage accumulating over reloads

[teal viper]

Where/how do you see it?

[somber solstice]

profiler?

[teal viper]

What exactly do you see?

Collection spikes?

[cosmic dagger]

The profiler should be able to tell you what scripts and methods its coming from, no?

[sour fulcrum]

unless your semi manually handling gc stuff (silk song does this)

[teal viper]

Because you might be optimizing in the wrong direction?

[somber solstice]

in what other direction could i be looking?

[somber solstice]

memory usage slowly climbing over time and sharply climbing when unloading/reloading areas (that's what i do to make enemies respawn, reset level etc), a few collection spikes here and there. I know I do very little pooling which is probably very bad but ALSO kind of too far gone to begin fixing now

[naive pawn]

kind of too far gone to begin fixing now
yet here you are trying to fix it indirectly

[teal viper]

What you describe sounds like a memory leak and is not directly related to garbage (collection).

Use the memory profiler. Make a few captures throughout the game and diff them to see what increased memory consumption.

[somber solstice]

I get that you are trying to make a point, doesn't change my situation though

[somber solstice]

it's what i've been doing, I don't exactly know what i'm supposed to look out for, though. But thanks!

[cosmic dagger]

If you know this part (pooling) is a problem, I would fix this first, then check to see how much it improves the memory issue

That way, you can pinpoint and focus on the next issue . . .

[somber solstice]

Any idea how I could determine how much of a problem it actually is? Stuff I should look at in profiling?

[swift crag]

You are going to allocate garbage

that's expected

[rich adder]

managed language for ya

[potent portal]

i setup IK and i want to disable it for the time being and have the normal animations that i have. how could i do that?

[rich adder]

probably lower the weights in the RIG

assuming by "Setup IK" you mean the animationn rigging package

[potent portal]

that didnt help

[potent portal]

yes

weird

[rich adder]

you probably set it up wrong in the first place

try lowering the weight on the IK component itself

they should all link to Rig builder though

[potent portal]

wtf it still didnt work

this is so weird

i even have Foot IK disabled on the animator

[rich adder]

which IK components are you using exactly ?

[potent portal]

im just going to try and restart the process

i most likley set it up wrong

i had to rig builders

okay i set it up once again

and i cant disable it

[rich adder]

which version are you using ? I wonder if it could be a bug

[potent portal]

6000.0.67f1

[rich adder]

have you tried disabling the TwoBone IK entirely ? does it restore the animation

[potent portal]

let me try that

nope

the only things that move are the arms

its really strange

well the arms are stuck in a pose

they just rotate

[rich adder]

was it working before you added RIG/IK to it

[potent portal]

yes

disabling the Rig Builder Component fixed it

[fast coral]

Hey I need to constantly call this function instead of it just doing it once when its performed and not really sure how (playerControls.Movement.Move.performed)

I hope this is the right channel🥲

[naive pawn]

this would be a #🖱️┃input-system question

[rich adder]

just poll it

[fast coral]

copy 🫡

[naive pawn]

they have an event listener..

[fast coral]

copy ^2

[slender nymph]

or just assign the ReadValue result to a variable that you then pass to the Move call each frame in Update

[naive pawn]

oh that's playerMovement, i read it as playerControls

but yeah there's several ways to go about this

[fast coral]

I did the caraible method thanks my gs ❤️

[ripe oyster]

weird question:
i use a script which needs to activate a function in a different script. the problem is that it needs to activate the same function in 3 different scripts, as in 3 seperatly named script with the same named function. is there a way to do this?
(context: i am making a puzzle game in which i have each rule only checking if it's correct when you press a button, but because the rules are different they each have a different way of checking if it's correct or not)

[keen dew]

That's what interfaces are for

[ripe oyster]

right, i forgot about those even though i'm using one of them. thanks

[swift crag]

one important note there – you cannot assign references to interface-typed fields in the inspector

so you can't add a public IClickable target; field and assign it in the inspector

you can, however, use interface types in TryGetComponent

very useful for interactions

[wintry quarry]

Other solutions besides interfaces:

• Events/delegates
• Abstract classes/methods

[grand snow]

You can cheat and serialise a MonoBehaviour or Component reference and cast at runtime. Best used with a validation however

[ripe oyster]

forgot to send an update. for the prototype i noticed that i used a button, so for now i assigned all the functions to that button too (which meant that the button now has 10 things it does, but hey, it's a prototype. once i get proper programmers to help me we'll make it betteR)

[slim night]

موجود ؟

في عربي هنا ولا

[rich adder]

English-only server

[slim night]

who told you this ?

[rich adder]

I've been here for a while and I know..
Mod also says so below the message you replied or you just blindly skipped seeing that? #💻┃code-beginner message

[slim night]

idc

حمار

الزبده يا اخوان في عربي ولا

[rich adder]

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[slim night]

idc you know

[frosty hound]

English only, thanks.

Didn't care so much they ran away.

[open crater]

Guys a question, if i have 5 scenes and a random player play the game, does every scene load once the player open the game or just the starter one? How this affect the performance of the game?

I mean every scene will be loaded or just the selected one

[rich adder]

when you load the scene, thats whats loaded in not all 5 load

[slender nymph]

by default unity will load whatever the first scene in your load order is, then you are in control of what is loaded beyond that

[open crater]

Ok so the performance is based on the first scene INITIALLY, right?

[teal viper]

Performance is based on whatever scene is currently loaded.

[rich adder]

you open a scene, it loads whats in it.. simple as that

[open crater]

Ok, so is it worth if I plan to make a 2d unity platformer game with levels?

Or just everything in a scene? Im talking about NO MENU

[teal viper]

I'm not sure how to parse these questions... 😅

[rich adder]

thats more a design thing, not performance.
make it easier on yourself and make each one a scene

[open crater]

Okok ty guys, sorry if questions seems dumb but im on early-developement 🙂

[rich adder]

its fine to ask, no need to overthink performance stuff . just make things

[teal viper]

You can have all levels in one scene and still have a menu. You can have a menu with levels split into their own scenes. You can have no menu and levels in one scene. And you can have no menu and levels in their own scenes.
These are not self contradicting options.

And really, performance is probably not the biggest concern here anyway. At least not in 2d.

[rich adder]

I've seen lots of creativity flows get interrupted by over fixating on the minor details, micro optimizations w not much benefit

[open crater]

Ok ty again

[cinder fog]

Hey guys can you help me? I'm trying to script an auto detect feature for some hovercars and there's just this one part I need help with. What do you call the z axis in rotation part in unity? Like I mean the rotation in the transform tool. Cuz I had something going where if I can figure out what the thing is called then I can set a param for it that I can make an if statement for it to rotate itself back upright. Im using Unity 2021.3.5f1 (school reasons) and im SUPER new into coding so my prof will dock points for using lerp quanterion or raycast.

[slender nymph]

i'm not 100% sure what you're asking here. are you asking how you access the Z axis of the rotation in code?

[cinder fog]

yeah kinda? cuz like you can code Input.GetAxis("Horizontal") for like position and forward movement in controls right? I want to know how to call the z in rotation so I can code a script that flips it in a natural looking way, not just snap it to +1

[slender nymph]

look at the Transform class which is where an object's position and rotation are both stored

unless you are asking how to get rotational input (like mouse movement) because it is still not entirely clear since your example uses something pretty much unrelated

[cinder fog]

Ah its hard to describe in text I guess. But like uh, will a picture work?

[slender nymph]

unlikely, but you can try 🤷‍♂️
the disconnect here seems to be your utter lack of understanding of how components and your code work

[cinder fog]

Yeah 😅 go easy on me, its my first rodeo like I said

[slender nymph]

i'll point out that Input.GetAxis("Horizontal") actually has nothing at all to do with "position and forward movement", it's just a method that returns the value of your Horizontal input axis, how that returned value is used is typically related to those things you mentioned, but the method itself is entirely unrelated

so are you trying to rotate the object, get some sort of input that you will then use to rotate it, etc, this part is not clear

[tight sapphire]

anyone know whats wrong with the code?

[slender nymph]

!ide 👇 use a real IDE to code, not notepad++

[radiant void]

💡 IDE Configuration

If your IDE is not autocompleting code or underlining errors, please configure it.

Select one:

• Visual Studio (Installed via Unity Hub)
• Visual Studio (Installed manually)
• VS Code
• JetBrains Rider
• :question: Other/None

[teal viper]

For starters, it's in notepad.

[tight sapphire]

when i open it it opens a notepad

thats what it opens automaticaly

[slender nymph]

#💻┃code-beginner message

[teal viper]

Follow the ide config above.

[tight sapphire]

which ones the one you use?

[teal viper]

Vs code. But I'd recommend to start with vs as a beginner.

[tight sapphire]

which ones easyier long term

[slender nymph]

again, those Input.GetAxis calls are not related to the properties shown in the inspector. you're modifying those properties by using the transform.Translate call below. but it seems like you want to get input that you can then use for the transform.Rotate call, yes?

[tight sapphire]

bc if i pick one im not swapping

[slender nymph]

start with visual studio which should have been installed along with unity by default

[tight sapphire]

okay so how do i even get it to open with that

[slender nymph]

#💻┃code-beginner message

[tight sapphire]

what

[solar hill]

look at the bot message

[cinder fog]

Kinda? I wanted to tie it to a parameter so I could call it and use it in an if statement because I couldn't make a script that works without doing so

[teal viper]

Use Visual studio. It's easier long term. Once you get experienced enough, switching is not gonna be an issue.

[slender nymph]

wdym what? i linked to a message that has relevant links for the configuration

[tight sapphire]

okay thanks

[solar hill]

so you want to compare the objects rotation to some property in an if statement?

[slender nymph]

"tie it to a parameter" is a nonsense phrase. you appear to want to get the input to store in a variable like you are doing for the horizontal and vertical axes that you use for movement. take a look at the Input Manager settings in your project settings to see what axes are already set up that you might be able to use for this

[tight sapphire]

downloading it

[cinder fog]

yeah, so the car can rotate itself back upright if it detects that its close to flipped over

[tight sapphire]

so my entire proplem was... bc of terrira

i think

[solar hill]

follow the ide set up guide linked above and you should be good to go

[slender nymph]

you should really lead with this next time because you said a bunch of stuff that is entirely unrelated to that concept

[solar hill]

i still dont see how input is related 🧐

[cinder fog]

Im sorry, I tried to explain it in a way that made sense to me... im really bad at this...

I really didn't know what I was looking for

[slender nymph]

for future reference: https://xyproblem.info

anyway, detecting if the car is flipped isn't going to be something that's really all that simple with your current level of knowledge. you might think that just checking the current rotation might be enough, but the rotation in degrees is interpreted from a quaternion at the time you access it so the angles may be signed or unsigned depending on what the engine decides to give you, multiple different values can also end up as the same rotation.
so the easiest thing to do would be to simply either lock the rotation around whatever axis it is that you want to prevent from flipping, or just don't rotate it around that axis.
since you have a rigidbody but you aren't actually moving with it, you'd want to do both

but also you'd want to consider moving via the rigidbody rather than the transform since you are fighting against physics doing this

[cinder fog]

is that why the car jitters when trying to rotate itself back? It also only stops at the value I set the if statement to like (if x <= 0.2f) then it just flips until 0.25...

[solar hill]

well yeah if you say "rotate if x <= 0.2" then its not going to bother rotating any more at 0.25 because its fulfilling this conditional

[cinder fog]

yeah I figured that out last night 😅 but i any higher was too strict of a requirement...

[solar hill]

youre missing the point

[cinder fog]

oh, sorry...

[solar hill]

think of it this way... if you tell me "the glass cant be empty" and i pour 1 droplet of water into an empty glass* the glass is no longer empty

there is no expectation of me to fill the glass all the way

you have to define that rule

'if car is flipped: rotate back to upright rotation'

[cinder fog]

yeah, I was going to add more that would have it rotate itself back to +1 but I couldn't figure that part out because I don't even know what im calling for

the closest I got to last night just had it spin like a spit roast infinitely

[solar hill]

imo boxfriend is right... i wouldnt bother with it for now.. its a bit too complex for you to handle it as is, use a simpler approach

[cinder fog]

I just looked into the input manager and it didn't seem to help much, I have two inputs for horizontal and vertical, the dropdown for each doesnt seem to help either

oh, ok.

My bad to waste everyone's time then, I'll uh, go work on the sounds effects for this project...

[solar hill]

youre not really wasting anyones time

thats the point of this channel and server

knowledge is never a waste of time

[cinder fog]

I feel like I pissed off boxfriend kinda, I guess I did kinda sound like a know it all earlier 😅

[tight sapphire]

are you still a game developer if all your codes copy pasted

[tight sapphire]

mow whats wring with it

[slender nymph]

what does the error message say

[tight sapphire]

idk my screens not propperly croped

cant see it

and i acidently didnt save it so cantsee now

just tried opening it and what do i do bout this when openign the project

[slender nymph]

ignore it, that will pop up when you have compile errors and try opening the project

the only time you need to enter safe mode is if you have errors in assets/packages that could break the editor in some way

[tight sapphire]

could someone copy paste the code for movement maybe?

[slender nymph]

there are hundreds of tutorials for movement, pick one and follow it. we don't do code handouts here

[tight sapphire]

okay

how do i find one for the top down veiw type of movement

nvm

found a 3 minute one

[slender nymph]

rather than finding random tutorials that barely teach you anything, you should consider going through some structured courses so you can learn what you are actually doing instead of just stumbling along blindly. the pathways on the unity learn site are a good place to start with that

[woven thistle]

what does this error message mean

[slender nymph]

!input 👇

[radiant void]

How to Set Input

To set Active Input Handling, go to:
Project Settings > Player > Active Input Handling

• Input Manager (Old): Use the original Input settings.
• Input System Package (New): Uses the new input system package.
• Both: Use both systems.

[woven thistle]

this happened when I did that. The character has disappeared.

[woven thistle]

Do you know what the issue is that caused this and how to fix it?

[verbal dome]

Why do you have so many missing scripts

Did you remove URP or something

[woven thistle]

what is URP

[verbal dome]

It's a package, a render pipeline for unity.

What's the history of that project

Did you recently create it or did you create it with an older unity version or what

[woven thistle]

I just created it today

[verbal dome]

So what used to be here instead of (Script)?

[woven thistle]

I wasn't able to get the character to move on screen through input, and then did what the person above recomended, changing the input type

nothing

[woven thistle]

nothing

[verbal dome]

Changing the input handling does not (should not) affect the rendering in any way

[woven thistle]

should I change it back then?

[eternal vale]

Hello 🙂

Im new

[verbal dome]

Why does it say MC

[woven thistle]

that is what I titled the script

[verbal dome]

But you just said there was nothing

[eternal vale]

Learning Unity after Godot is intense brutal training

😭

[woven thistle]

I thought you said what was there before I added the scipt, that is the name of the script, that is the script

[verbal dome]

Ah. Well it's broken, unity can't find it for some reason

Anway, close unity, delete the Library folder in your project folder, and restart unity. See if that helps

[woven thistle]

I am not 100% sure my VS code studio is even compatible with unity. I did follow setup instructions cause i had problems with that before, is there any test I can run to make sure they work together

[verbal dome]

Send a screenshot of a unity script open in VS code first (don't crop it)

[woven thistle]

Does this help?

[verbal dome]

Yeah this part instantly tells us it's not configured

!vscode

[radiant void]

Visual Studio Code guide

If your IDE is not underlining errors in red or autocompleting code,
please configure it using the link below:

https://on.unity.com/vscode

[verbal dome]

Follow those steps^

More help here
https://unity.huh.how/ide-configuration/visual-studio-code

[woven thistle]

okay

[woven thistle]

I am following the steps, when it says Set up Unity
Update the Visual Studio Package, I am not sure what to do. It says on Unity go to windows, then packages, but I don't see them. I am on Unity Hub though, what is the difference between Unity and Unity Hub?

[verbal dome]

Unity hub and unity editor are separate. You use the hub to open your projects and install different unity editor versions

Open your project and find the package manager in the unity editor

[woven thistle]

thanks. Makes sense

[median hatch]

ayo does anyone know when the next unity asset sale is? and if hot reload is worth it?

[remote sequoia]

Documentation says FindObjectsByType<>() return Objects[] but when I try to assign it to the GameObject this happens

Why?

[sour fulcrum]

Enemy is not GameObject

[median hatch]

at the beginning of your foreach you should have Enemy not GameObject

you're trying to find a script

[remote sequoia]

But doesn't this code block find and list objects with the Enemy script? Are there only Enemy scripts on the list or are they stored in objects with that script?

[sour fulcrum]

Objects aren't always neccasarily GameObjects

[remote sequoia]

I need to access the transform of objects with the enemy script

[remote sequoia]

Ooh

[sour fulcrum]

you can access .transform on any MonoBehaviour

[median hatch]

a gameObject is something defined by unity

every gameObject must have a transform

an object is defined by yourself or any other libraries you may use

[sour fulcrum]

kinda not right

a GameObject is a Object too

[median hatch]

a gameobject is defined by unity

thats my point

doesnt matter how they did it

[eternal needle]

This seems like a major sidetracke from the fact they just are using the wrong type in that loop

[median hatch]

xD

[sour fulcrum]

that's already been pointed out

[remote sequoia]

Understood, thanks!

[median hatch]

no worries man

[remote sequoia]

foreach (var enemy in FindObjectsByType<Enemy>(FindObjectsSortMode.None))
This means find all the objects in the scene with the enemy script and count them all as enemy and do something for each
Am I understood right?

[naive pawn]

not sure what you mean by "count them all as enemy"
the enemy there is just the name of the variable used in the loop

[pliant bridge]

Can Shader Graph can replace a Fake Shadow from prefab?

[remote sequoia]

FindObjectsByType block create list and we are assign every objects in the list to the enemy variable?

[median hatch]

it means for every enemy found do something

[remote sequoia]

Heh

[median hatch]

its not well optimized tho

i'd create a list in Start() and assign all enemies there

then loop through them whenever

FindObjectsByType is an expensive way of finding objects

[remote sequoia]

But the enemies die and when they all die, they respawn, how else can I update the list constantly?

[median hatch]

C# events

[remote sequoia]

Ohh I have to deep dive to the events got it

[stuck parrot]

how do I got ALL my coin objects into the serializefield? ```cs using UnityEngine;

public class CoinCollector : MonoBehaviour
{
public int score = 0;
[SerializeField] GameObject coinObject;

void OnTriggerEnter(Collider other)
{
    if (other.CompareTag("Coin"))
    {
        score++;
        Destroy(coinObject);
    }
}

}```

[median hatch]

what

[stuck parrot]

right now this only works with one coin, i cant drag all coins in there

[unique thistle]

make an array or a list

[median hatch]

you want all coins to go into score?

or you want an array of coinObjects?

[unique thistle]

[SerializeField] GameObject[] coinObject; for an array

[median hatch]

i think i see what you mean

[stuck parrot]

no this script is attatched to the player and it checks if the player collides with the coin object

[median hatch]

you can directly destroy the coinObject without needing a class reference

[stuck parrot]

but I can only put one object in the serialize field

[median hatch]

Destroy(other.gameObject)

no need for lists

[stuck parrot]

that worked! now I feel dumb 😭 how could I know theres something like that 🙃

[median hatch]

for the future you can also access scripts and components inside that other.

other.GetComponent<Transform>(); for example

[median hatch]

what you have to understand with OnTriggerEnter is that you already did that without noticing

you're checking if other (the object you're colliding with) has a tag of "Coin"

[stuck parrot]

I already tried Destroy(other); but that didnt work. Most of the time I try stuff out until it works but this time I lost 😅 as soon as there are "." seperations involved I loose track of what is what

[median hatch]

yea it takes a while to get used to it

other in this case is a Collider

for example BoxCollider, SphereCollider and so on

when you do other. you get all its values + able to get other components that are on the same gameObject

basically you can do crazy stuff with colliders

[median hatch]

this did work but what you're doing is destroying the Collider inside the gameObject

when you do Destroy(other.gameObject) you're destroying the object itself, not the component

[stuck parrot]

ah so I can destroy single components on that object like animation, rigidbody and so on?

[median hatch]

yup you get it

[sage mirage]

Hey, guys! Is it fine to leave fields empty in the inspector whenever you change scenes and let's say the game won't print null reference because it doesn't trigger the specific code for it to trigger?

[pliant bridge]

i think it is, it won't print null, just none, u can't see the object even object is spawned i guess

[strong wren]

It is indeed fine as long as you don't try to access it while it's still null.

[sage mirage]

You know there is a problem I have, so I found a way to fix it at runtime. So, the problem is that I have a UI manager object in title scene and a game over panel object in main scene, I do dont destroy on load for the UI manager object in title scene in order to persist in main scene as well then what I did was to create a new script called MainSceneUIBridge and actually connect the local game over that I have in the main scene with the one in the UI manager. Check it out 👇

{
    [SerializeField] private GameObject localGameOverPanel;

    private void Start()
    {
        UIManager.Instance.GameOverPanel = localGameOverPanel;
    }

    private void OnDestroy()
    {
        UIManager.Instance.GameOverPanel = null;
    }
}```

[ivory bobcat]

If you get an NRE error, you need to reconsider stuff. If not, you're fine. This isn't to do with some sort of "best practice" but rather explicitness.

[sage mirage]

In order to not leave it empty I add the game over panel object as a prefab so that I can assign it in the title scene

I think I did right no?

because like I said my game over panel object lives only in the main scene

[strong wren]

I would avoid mixing instantiated objects with prefabs to avoid accidentally doing stuff with a prefab instance.

[sage mirage]

so whats the best practice just to have it empty?

as long as it doesn't print NRE I think I can leave it as empty

because on the main scene what I do is actually assinging it at runtime

[ivory bobcat]

I just said this isn't a best practice concern but explicitness..

[strong wren]

It's better to get an error than accidentally do stuff with a prefab. Error will tell you if timing between accessing the object and setting it is wrong.

[sage mirage]

so whatever it is

I just wanted to know

[pliant bridge]

Is there any ways to make the shader or lighting for the terrain no more flat?
as i researched they add normal maps for tiles, and then use shader graph, is it true?

[teal viper]

"no more flat"??
Who "they"?

[pliant bridge]

uhh i searched on reddit

and youtube

do you have any ideas 🙁

[teal viper]

Maybe explain what you're trying to do first.
Because its still not clear.

[pliant bridge]

i meant i create 3 tiles with 3 kind of sorting layers, i was trying to make 3d terrain in isometric, but idk how
i made 3 tilemap for making multi-level terrain, like this image. but the image you can easily too see which is lower, which is higher

but mine can't

[teal viper]

If you look closer this screenshot applies a tint based on the depth of the layer. Lower layers seem darker.

[pliant bridge]

How can i do that

[teal viper]

Didn't the tile map component have a tint/color property?

Maybe not. But it seems to allow selecting a material. So you could configure the color on a material.
Btw, #🖼️┃2d-tools is probably a better place for this question as it's not code related.

[pliant bridge]

I used default material,it called sprite-lit-default

And it all the same

So idk

Ill see it

[distant orchid]

Hey guys any good tutorials on YouTube I’m very new to unity

[frosty hound]

!learn

[radiant void]

:teacher: Unity Learn ↗

Over 750 hours of free live and on-demand learning content for all levels of experience!

[distant orchid]

On YouTube not unity leant

Learn *

[naive pawn]

youtube has a search bar

[solar hill]

And you unity learn is better than 90% of youtube tutorials

[naive pawn]

i mean, that's just because there are a lot of bad tutorials on youtube

[polar acorn]

Why YouTube specifically

[sage mirage]

Hey, guys! By mistake, I have staged my changes in the wrong branch in develop branch basically and I am not sure what to do. I have to unstage them and then stage them on the feature branch I have

I am trying to commit and it says changes not staged on the feature branch

[swift crag]

what version control software are you using?

[sage mirage]

Github bro

What else

XD

Wait I know what I have to do

I am going to stash the changes and then pop in the correct branch

Oh, shit!

I got some trouble guys

I can't solve this issue XD

[silk night]

idk one of the other 500? https://git-scm.com/tools/guis

[silk night]

close all software that might access the project, then try again
(vscode, unity, ...)

[polar acorn]

Github isn't software

[naive pawn]

that's a service, not vcs
the underlying vcs is git

you're also using github desktop in that screenshot

[obsidian grove]

am I crazy or is there no way to assign a specific monobehaviour instance to a serialised field?

like, you can't drag a specific behaviour from a different GO because the editor UI just doesn't let you

[naive pawn]

well with those options, you're crazy

[naive pawn]

you can

[silk night]

yeah you can

[naive pawn]

if you're referring to the inspector getting changed when you select the new object, lock the inspector

(there's a lock icon in the top right)

[obsidian grove]

but then I can't drag a behaviour from a different GO because the inspector shows the one with the field

and I don't think you can have multiple inspector windows 🤔

[silk night]

you can

also you can click on the 3 dots top right of a script and click on properties, that way you pop out that thing and can drag other stuff in there

[polar acorn]

You also don't need to drag in the behaviour, you can drag in the object and it'll automatically use the one on that object

[silk night]

(unless one object has multiple of that script and you want the 2nd one)

[polar acorn]

You should probably avoid having multiple copies of the same component on the same object

Mostly for situations like this where the one you get is ambiguous

[obsidian grove]

yep, that's it, thanks

[silk night]

of the same concrete yes, ive seen multiple classes that inherit from the same interface on one gameobject with the interface being the field type

[polar acorn]

You know what, fair. Hadn't thought of that.

[obsidian grove]

ah I don't have multiples of the same component, or a field for a specific monobehaviour, I was literally just doing:
[SerializeField] MonoBehaviour[] blahblah

[naive pawn]

you can have multiple inspector windows

[polar acorn]

Why

[silk night]

yeah then make that a specific class, not MonoBehaviour

then you can just drag the gameobject and it will pick the right script

also makes handling that field a lot easier down the line 😄

[polar acorn]

What benefit could you possibly have for making an array of monobehaviours

[obsidian grove]

it's because different prefabs with the same script will need to have different behaviours disabled at a certain time

depending on the prefab

[silk night]

Yeah then just do {className}[]

instead of MonoBehaviour[]

oh wait different behaviours?

[polar acorn]

This sounds like you should just have different prefabs

[naive pawn]

this sounds like something you could make more specific/streamlined with the right abstraction+constraints

[silk night]

my suggestion is give them a common interface that each needs to implement

public interface IEnableableBehaviour {
  public void SetEnabled(bool enabled);
}

then you can make the field a IEnableableBehaviour[]

[naive pawn]

you could have it be public bool enabled { get; set; } so monobehaviors would already implement it, probably

[silk night]

mhh fair

[polar acorn]

I feel like there's a work flow that doesn't involve dragging in specific components on an object. I'd need to know more about the "why" to know for sure the "how"

[silk night]

Event based pattern comes to mind here, but the way they are trying to do stuff is exactly what I tried in the beginning 😄 part of the process until they learn there is a better pattern

[obsidian grove]

is there a specific reason why I shouldn't do this?

it is a bit lazy but this prefab isn't super common so the sloppy workflow doesn't matter

[silk night]

depending on the type of project/collaboration with other people and scope of the whole thing your method is potentially totally fine
it might be less maintainable, less automated, more fragile than other methods but if it works and has no major impact on anything there is literally no problem doing it like you do

if you know you would add hundreds of other gameobjects there over time you would pick a more automated solution
if other people need to understand it you would look for maintainability
if that manages the main aspect of your game and other stuff is built around it you would look to build it robust so it doesnt break once other things conditions or mechanics come into contact with it 😄

[obsidian grove]

that's a great response, thank you

[swift crag]

If you genuinely just need to turn behaviours on and off, then Behaviour[] is appropriate

Although there is the gotcha of things like Renderers not being a kind of behaviour

how annoying

[sharp bloom]

Funny thing; when I first learned about Events, I started with Unity's Event system and struggled with it for months. Then I started using native .NET actions and it all worked like a charm

Now the same thing has happened with async/await, I tried using Unity's Awaitable class, no luck and I thought it was really difficult. I've just learned about native .NET tasks and again, it all works like a charm.

Huh.

[teal viper]

Not sure what there is to struggle with. They're basically the same concepts.

[honest iron]

i made this star, i want it to move and spin like a disc, but instead of spinning its moving like there is an orbit, anyone know what should i do?

[sharp bloom]

Honestly not sure. Something about Unity's own documentation just didn't click for me.

[mint imp]

Hey guys I'm having an issue with input across scenes.
In my main scene I'm using an input reference "Move" that is a vector 2, to get the direction i want player to move. Normal stuff.

but when trying to use the same input reference in a different scene for a differnt player movement script (because its for a top down map view)
It just doesnt recognize imputs remotely?

Every one of those debugs say false regardless of pressing input or not

[mint imp]

What does the gameobject look like
Ive seen a similar issue when rotating a parent object, the child objects would "Orbit" if they were not positioned centered where parent is

[honest iron]

StarBox - parent with the script
Star - Child with the meshes

[real thunder]

So I want to find the most reasonable target to start homing to for a homing rocket (fps rocket launcher weapon this case)
I thought that that would make sense to go through all possible targets and...
If I just aim for the closest one that won't do the trick, homing backwards is not great
I figured I can sort targets by their distance....
and then... ugh... adding to that distance a penalty somehow using dot product of rocket speed and toTarget... and ugh... yeah... If anyone know about existing good approach or have a better idea let me know, because I haven't yet fugured useful formula out

[mint imp]

Is the transform for the Star object at 0, 0, 0 ?

[honest iron]

yes

[teal viper]

Get all targets in a certain radius(dot product or angle checks), then find the closest one.

[real thunder]

wa

what certain radius?

[teal viper]

Homing radius/range.

[real thunder]

lets say it's infinite

[mint imp]

Share your code

[teal viper]

Then just get all targets in the scene and find the closest.

[real thunder]

"If I just aim for the closest one that won't do the trick, homing backwards is not great"

[teal viper]

You said infinite radius

Which implies backwards is ok

[real thunder]

not really

it's easier to hit target ahead but not behind

the point is to get a target which the most reachable

[teal viper]

Then it's not infinite.

[naive pawn]

...no?

[naive pawn]

is this not directional?

[sage mirage]

Guys I cant figure out what to do

[naive pawn]

you should have UserSettings in your .gitignore

did you set up the .gitignore correctly to begin with?

[teal viper]

So you want an aglorithm to find an optimal target. Then you need to specify these optimal conditions. Like:

• a function of minimum dot product and distance.

[polar acorn]

Resolve your merge conflicts, either manually, or by checking out whichever branch's version of this file you actually want

[sage mirage]

That's my gir ignore

[naive pawn]

@real thunder is this what you have in mind

[naive pawn]

where'd you get this from

that's missing UserSettings as mentioned

you should generally be basing the .gitignore on this
https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/main/Unity.gitignore

[real thunder]

yeah that I figured, what I haven't figured is how exactly it should look like
probably in ideal case that meant to be some formula including rocket speed, homing capacity, distance to target, angle to target
but I won't mind something simplier yet bit more complex than just "closest one but filtering out thigns behind"

[real thunder]

yeah in this case aiming for closest is not ideal

[naive pawn]

do those "lfs settings" even work in .gitignore

[naive pawn]

ok, then you have to figure out how to determine "distance" in a way that "closest" represents something more meaningful to your specific situation

[sage mirage]

yes lfs is working

I have used AI to tell you

And copy pasted the git ignore

[naive pawn]

yikes

maybe don't use AI to feed you bs on stuff you don't understand

[teal viper]

It sounds like you can't decide on what these conditions should be. We can't really help with that. It's a design question and is entirely up to you and your project.

Not a technical question.

[sage mirage]

Ok now I got very confused because I am confused XD

[naive pawn]

and yeah this lfs config does not work. that stuff needs to be in .gitattributes, not .gitignore

[naive pawn]

ok, let me summarize.

• you used AI to generate this.
• you don't understand how to actually use it.
• it's now broken, because you tried to use a hammer on a screw

[orchid wolf]

Hello everyone, I have a question.
So, I want to make item system like in risk of rain 2, but I don't know the right way to store items in Unity. Right now I have scripts where I create option in context menu to create item. (Screenshots applied)
I am sure I am doing something wrong so I would appreciate any advice.

[naive pawn]

there's no "right way", there's several working ways

what's the issue you're having?

[orchid wolf]

I don't like how it looks

Let me show

[polar acorn]

Why would you use AI to generate a gitignore for Unity when Github literally lets you pick Unity from the dropdown when making the repository
https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/main/Unity.gitignore

[naive pawn]

how what looks?

[polar acorn]

It's fucking built in

[orchid wolf]

nvm, it's about logic. I am not planning making more than 1 item with the same logic. So like, I thought maybe there is a way to store logic and then somehow address to it when working with inventory.

[naive pawn]

kinda sounds like you're just describing polymorphism?

[orchid wolf]

Like, what's the point in that if they share same name, values and functions?

[naive pawn]

ok, and why would you have 2 of those

like.. yeah, what's the point

[polar acorn]

If they share the same name, values, and functions, you should just use the one asset for both

[naive pawn]

you would more likely have multiple BaseItems (probably(?) mostly through subclasses), rather than multiple Vampires

[orchid wolf]

Yeah, but I thought maybe there is any Unity-way solution. Of course I can create several sub classes to "BaseItem" and change their logic.

[polar acorn]

Polymorphism is the "Unity-way solution"

[naive pawn]

why would unity have a separate, different version of a core OOP concept

[polar acorn]

Unity's designed around it, it's one of the reasons Javascript was ditched years ago, so they could go full-bore into C# support for things like interfaces

[real thunder]

I knew it from the start and meant by saying adding penalty to a distance
I thought this scenario is common enough so someone can tip me an algorithm but it seems like instead of saving time on that I ve wasted several people's time a bit 🙁

[orchid wolf]

I think I just confused myself, gotta make it simple

[naive pawn]

you could probably add a multiplicative penalty (maybe curved like 0-60 has 1-1.2 then 60-180 has 1.5-8, that kind of idea) with regards to angle difference

[orchid wolf]

thanks everyone, gonna change that and maybe ask again

[polar acorn]

This seems like a specific enough situation since you'd need to factor in things like turn radius and acceleration, I don't think you'll find a bespoke algorithm for this. You could just come up with some equations to compute how long it'd take to reach something based on your own parameters and then just run that function on every possible target. Not sure you can get faster than that

[naive pawn]

you could have multiple instances of like, HealingItem extends BaseItem if they had the same behavior with different amounts or sprites, for example
but for different behavior, you would have different classes

[orchid wolf]

Ye, I am about to make several classes

Now I just need to figure out a fance way to set Name, Description and Sprite for each class

[naive pawn]

you already have serialized fields

[real thunder]

oh right, calculate the trajectory and it's length, that would make most technical sense

[naive pawn]

you probably don't need name either really, could just use the name of the SO itself

[orchid wolf]

I am not deep into C#, what is SO?

[naive pawn]

scriptableobject

not a c# thing, the unity thing

[orchid wolf]

ah

I think I won't work with so

just, general classes

[sage mirage]

Hey! What I am supposed to do now?? I am going to die or something?

Because I really think I have to die

[naive pawn]

wtf are you talking about

[orchid wolf]

I am changing stuff already

[sage mirage]

I did some shit

[sour fulcrum]

No one wants to help someone saying this

[sage mirage]

I am not sure how to revert this shit

XD

[naive pawn]

and you expect me to just psychically know?

[sage mirage]

Maybe to create a new repo and set it up from scratch again

[naive pawn]

why are you even here when you don't read anything anyone tells you

[sage mirage]

get user settings, project settings and Assets files and do this?

[honest iron]

sorry, didnt noticed discord, i fixed it thanks anyway

[orchid wolf]

So this is how it looks now. New question is, what's proper way of loading sprite.

I read there is "Resources.Load" but people say to never use it

probably because it yields

[polar acorn]

You should probably just drag in the sprite you want

[orchid wolf]

but that's a script

[polar acorn]

There's not really a reason for this item to have a constructor. You already have an instance in your assets folder

Just assign the values to that

[polar acorn]

Here, you've got a Vamprite object. Assign the values there

You're creating these SOs in the editor, you shouldn't have a Constructor

You're not creating them in code

[wintry quarry]

there is no need to have a subclass here. These are just fields you should be setting in the inspector on the SO instance

[polar acorn]

Assuming there's going to eventually be code in those functions for every item, it'd probably need to be a subclass

[orchid wolf]

Thanks, but do I really need to use SO? Yes, I created item in editor. Yes, I assigned values to it. But why do I need to create SO for a single object?

[wintry quarry]

I would find a different way to dispatch the behavior. This will be unwieldy to manage, IMHO.

[orchid wolf]

For example, if we had guns, yes, I would create SO to set damage, fire rate and etc.

but each item in my game is unique

with unique functions

[sour fulcrum]

i mean you don't have to, but that is the intended workflow SO's were built for / Unity tbh

[orchid wolf]

mmmmm, tough for me to understand but ok, gonna keep it that way then

[sage mirage]

So, I am close to merge my feature branch to develop branch.

[polar acorn]

Just wipe out your entire hallucinated gitignore and replace it with the one I linked above

[sage mirage]

I don't have much experience in solving merge conflicts to tell you, because it is very rare in my case I am working solo

[polar acorn]

And then do this:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19663093/apply-gitignore-on-an-existing-repository-already-tracking-large-number-of-file

[orchid wolf]

how do I get SO name in script?

[naive pawn]

.name, it's just a field/prop

[orchid wolf]

ah, yeah, GameObject

[sour fulcrum]

Unity.Object*

[orchid wolf]

🥀

[sage mirage]

Hey! I have solved the merge conflict. I did what you said. So, what is your advice to me? I really would like to have some advice for the next time.

[cosmic quail]

the best advice you're gonna get: stop using AI

[polar acorn]

Don't use AI

[naive pawn]

also read the things we say

[naive pawn]

also gotta set the lfs stuff in .gitattributes, not .gitignore

[real thunder]

int dim = 5;
targets = new Transform[dim * dim];
        for (int i = 0; i < dim; i++)
        {
            for (int k = 0; k < dim; i++)
            {
                Debug.Log(k + i * dim);
            }
        }

why does it go 0 5 10 15 20 25 overflow? 🥴

oh hey I see why now, posting is amazing

[swift crag]

ah, classic increment blunder :p

[pliant bridge]

do you guys have any solutions for muti-levels, 3d terrain for world generator in isometric/2d ?

cz i was thinking about making a solution like this:
I will only make a ground tile map as a base layer
and a script will be world generator, it will generate clone tilemap that will up up up over and over again to make cliffs, hills, or smt like 3d terrain.

Do you guys have any ideas?

[real thunder]

no, but I feel like performance would suck this way

[wintry quarry]

There are lots of existing solutions for Minecraft-like 3D terrains using mesh generation, chunking, etc. Could you use that?

[real thunder]

I wonder how does Minecraft does that

out of curiosity, geometry wise, how does minecraft terrain looks like?

I am not even sure my question make sense in this form

but it's clearly not many cubes

[wintry quarry]

like I said, mesh generation

[real thunder]

each chunk is a mesh or something along those lines?

[wintry quarry]

each chunk is a mesh yes

[real thunder]

sounds surprisingly simple but I wonder how bad can it be if you

well, build alot of chunks

where each one is a very detailed non convex thingie

[wintry quarry]

That's why minecraft has a setting for render distance

and why it only simulates chunks you are nearby

[sour fulcrum]

sounds suprisingly simple until you watch a video on world record mob farms

[real thunder]

what's up with that

is this related to chunks being meshes or chunks being... chunks?

I mean I am talking only about rendering/hitboxes thingie