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[rich adder]

yeah exactly because if needed you can use direction somewhere else with ease, and its easier to read at a glance

[wintry quarry]

You don't need any of those.normalizeds pretty sure

[rich adder]

ya maybe if you use a projectile, then normalizing would be good to do
Otherwise you end up shooting faster bullet when they are further from you

[queen adder]

for the Vector3 probably no

[keen dew]

Also note these are extremely minute details, not really worth getting stuck on

[queen adder]

I think I always normalized since I only need the directions with a magnitude of 1

[warm crater]

@rich adder So I managed to seperate the Camera code from the PlayerController. Now I have 2 scripts (one for movement and one for the camera). Is this what you meant with the method?

[rich adder]

sure this way also works fine, though I meant mainly the Scripts the processes inputs

its good practice to change values through methods though so you're on the right track

now playercontroller doesn't care where it gets speed changed from, which is good

imagine you have a speedbooster or something else, its as easy as calling that method

[quartz orbit]

any idea why i get his error on a fresh unity project? : built-in render texture type 3 not found while executing (SetRenderTarget depth buffer).

[rich adder]

could be a busted template / editor version ?
try different version

its probably nothing to worry about, restart the editor and see if it comes back

[swift crag]

what template did you use, and what unity version are you on?

[queen adder]

Can I ask if im accessing the HandleBallReset method from the Ball script inside the player Controller script correctly?

public class PlayerController : MonoBehaviour
{
    public InputActionReference resetBall;
    public Ball ball;

    private void Update()
    {
        ResetBall();
    }

    private void ResetBall()
    {
        if (resetBall.action.WasPressedThisFrame())
        {
            ball.HandleBallReset();
        }
    }
}

public class Ball : MonoBehaviour
{
    private void ResetBallPosition()
    {
        transform.position = new Vector3(xAxisStartPosition, Random.Range(-yAxisSpawnRange, yAxisSpawnRange));
    }

    public void HandleBallReset()
    {
        ResetBallPosition();
        InitialLaunch();
    }
}

Just create the reference with Ball ball and doing the drag and drop in the inspector?

[naive pawn]

not seeing any issues that stand out

is there something specific you have in mind with regards to correctness?

[wintry quarry]

sure - but are you sure the code is even running? With InputActionReference most of the time you'll need to do resetBall.action.Enable(); before you can use the action

[naive pawn]

i will note that that ResetBall method isn't named very accurately

[queen adder]

it does work without those Enable Disable thingies

[naive pawn]

and it doesn't really need to exist to begin with

[wintry quarry]

so what's the question then?

is it not working?

[queen adder]

my question was about accessing a method from another script

how is it done correctly

[naive pawn]

there's no single correct answer

[wintry quarry]

yes you have done so correctly.

1. Get a reference to an instance of the other script
2. Call the method on the reference

Assuming you've assigned the reference in the inspector, this is fine

[naive pawn]

there are several valid answers and several invalid/problematic answers

[queen adder]

I did. I saw tutorials using the GetComponent method too

Something like

[naive pawn]

it's kinda like you're asking if you painted something correctly
did you destroy the brush? no? it's fine

[wintry quarry]

GetComponent is another way to do step 1 - getting the reference

[tender mirage]

Personally i just reference it directly and that’s been working well, i would love to hear or experiment other methods tho.

[quartz orbit]

@rich adder@swift crag i used editor verision 6000.1.8f1, gonna download newer now

[naive pawn]

that works too, but if there's some specific component on the object that's desired then it's easier and safer (in terms of workflow) to just use that type directly for the serialized field

[queen adder]

Ball ball = other.GetComponent<Ball>();

this is from a collision

[naive pawn]

yeah that's fine

[rich adder]

nothing wrong with that, always guard it with a null check Or even easier
a TryGetComponent

[naive pawn]

there's also TryGetComponent that could simplify the presense check

[rich adder]

if(other.TryGetComponent(out Ball ball)){
// we do have ball component 
ball.dosomething```

[wintry quarry]

yep, you're just getting a reference to a Ball here

[queen adder]

okay thanks for your input guys. im yet to do null checks myself, I do realize its absolutely needed in development

[wintry quarry]

null checks are not absolutely needed. They are needed in scenarios when they are needed.

[queen adder]

i do get the reference errors if i forget to assign objects

[wintry quarry]

that's a good thing

If you added a null check that squelched the error, then you would just never know you forgot to assign it

And you would be scratching your head about why the game isn't working right

[queen adder]

So is it just to prevent crashes?

[wintry quarry]

It has nothing to do with crashes

[queen adder]

but the game stops

[wintry quarry]

it certainly does not

[rich adder]

the opposite

[wintry quarry]

the current script execution context stops

[queen adder]

if I get the exception error

[wintry quarry]

other scripts will continue just fine

[wintry quarry]

The right time to put a null check in your code is when a reference being null is a normal and expected part of the operation of the game

[rich adder]

Unity Editor has "Pause on Error" which would stop it but in a build it wont

[wintry quarry]

If you have something that should never be null, silencing the error is counterproductive

Ah yes, I forgot about error pause

that's just a debugging tool in the editor

Note I'm not arguing that you should just let NullReferenceExceptions happen and ignore them

When you get one of those you either need to go fix whatever reference is broken, or you need to evaluate whether the code should expect something to be null sometimes and handle it appropriately

[queen adder]

I tried it and it seems the play mode just pauses

[wintry quarry]

yeah due to the error pause setting in the console window

if you turn that off it won't pause

[queen adder]

well now I learned something only today ^^

so these null reference errors arent a bad thing?

[wintry quarry]

No more than a fire alarm is a bad thing

the fire is the bad thing

the alarm is good

it's telling you about the fire

[queen adder]

yeah true

nice way to put it, im writing this down ^^

[wintry quarry]

You should definitely fix all such errors

but it's good we get them

[rich adder]

a good time is to do additional logic if something is null (null check)

[queen adder]

Sorry Chris I missed your message. Why it doesnt need to exist? Im calling it in the Update method to check if the button was pressed

[rich adder]

imagine you are holding a Ball ?
can we pick up a ball ?
We do null check to see if we already hold a ball in our hands

if(hands.Ball == null){
//we are not holding a ball already,we can pickup another
PickupBall();
else
DropPreviousBall(); //or whatever```

[queen adder]

so its the same if I do this?

if (!hands.Ball)

is it the same?

[rich adder]

yea

[naive pawn]

you can do the same thing directly in Update

[queen adder]

I was aware, but I thought it would be more clean to only have method names inside the Update instead of having lots of separate behaviors happening, which was harder to read for me?

private void Update()
{
    Move();
    RestrictMovement();
    ResetBall();
}

this looks easier for me

than this

private void Update()
{
    Vector2 verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2();
    Vector3 finalInput = verticalInput * (movementSpeed * Time.deltaTime);
    transform.Translate(finalInput);
        
    if (transform.position.y > yAxisBoundary)
    {
        transform.position = new Vector3(transform.position.x, yAxisBoundary);
    }
    else if (transform.position.y < -yAxisBoundary)
    {
        transform.position = new Vector3(transform.position.x, -yAxisBoundary);
        }
        
    if (resetBall.action.WasPressedThisFrame())
    {
        ball.HandleBallReset();
    }
}

[rich adder]

having seperate methods is always preferable IMO
its cleaner looking but also you can use them other places if needed, like reset ball

[queen adder]

that is true for me at least for now

[rich adder]

its good practice, you're on the right track

[queen adder]

I was tought to do everything into methods and call them wherever I need them

not taught but more like advised how to go about organizing code

and dont get me started about variable, method names haha

[naive pawn]

if you have multiple things sure, but if the only thing a method does is delegate to 1 other method then no reason to separate it out

[rich adder]

also makes debugging easier, so you can just comment out a specific function instead of a whole block of code

[naive pawn]

but personally i would have the input handling still in update and only call Reset (via the method or the ball's method) in that conditional

[rich adder]

if using polling HandleInputs() is not uncommon to have in Update()

btw are you using physics because transform.Translate(finalInput); you might wanna switch this to a kinematic Rb / constrained axis dynamic rb.
You will get a much more accurate simulation / hits

[queen adder]

im moving my paddles with Translate and the ball is moved with a rigidbody

should I move the paddles with physics too? they do seem to collide alright at the moment when the ball is set to continuous detection

[naive pawn]

and the paddles are collliders as well? they should be moved via rigidbodies then

not necessarily with physics, but at least via a rigidbody

[queen adder]

yes the ball bounces from them

[naive pawn]

otherwise that's a desync+resync every physics tick if i'm not mistaken

[rich adder]

it does but at varying FPS you might get issue

[slender nymph]

it recreates the colliders that have moved without a rigidbody every fixed update which can get expensive

[rich adder]

the Physics has to catchup to where Translate put it, instead of the other way around

[queen adder]

so basically if someone is moved and collided with its better to keep everything in sync, if one is a rigidbody the other should be a rigidbody aswell?

[rich adder]

if something moves and interacts with physics it has to most likely have a physics body

kinematic if doesn't need to be affected by other physics and act as a moving obs

[naive pawn]

it's not that - if it has a collider and is moved, it should be moved with a rigidbody (except CC, which is its own thing)

[queen adder]

so can the paddles be kinematic? wont they be "see through" ?

[rich adder]

wdym "see through"

[naive pawn]

no, you're thinking of a trigger

[queen adder]

when I make something kinematic its not affected by physics, so its not colliding?

or am i mixing something

[naive pawn]

it can interact with physics, but it doesn't simulate physics on itself

no velocities, no forces

but it can collide/apply forces to other things

[queen adder]

oh so thats perfectly fine or pong paddles since they move up and down

[rich adder]

yea

the ball will see it as "Oh this is a moving wall/collider"

[queen adder]

so I can move them with linearVelocity property as well?

[polar acorn]

Kinematic rigidbodies do not respond to forces, but can exert forces

[rich adder]

Unity2D engine is weird than 3D, they do have velocity but you should move them via MovePosition method, its similar to translate but you need to add the current rb.position of it

[ruby python]

Hi all, it's been a while.

I'm trying to figure out a system to generate my gameworld (top down game, the 'ground' is tile based, with everything else spawning in a non-tile based way). At the moment the only way I can think of doing things in a sequential manner as per the code in the link (no actual logic inside the various methods as yet, just an example.

https://hastebin.com/share/unaturutut.csharp

Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction of some methods to look at please?

[queen adder]

Will the oncollision function work with a kinematic paddle?

[rich adder]

yea

dynamic and Kinematic respond to each other

[queen adder]

i think I read that 3D rigidbody velocities shouldnt be changed but 2D is fine

im moving the ball with linearVelocity too

[rich adder]

Kinematic in 3D wont let you move via velocity it just sets to 0. In 2D is a differnt engine so works a bit different

[naive pawn]

for 3d, no
for 2d, yes

[queen adder]

oh yeah im only talking about 2D now, 3D has to be used with a method

[naive pawn]

that's not related to 2d/3d. that's just a warning that setting velocity directly can make it unrealistic physically. there's no technical limitation

[rich adder]

yeah you can use velocity for 2d kinematic, though I personally still prefer MovePosition

[queen adder]

I remember this to be true, everything seemed fine until I read the documentation

[swift crag]

it's easy to get confused by the differences

2D is Box2D and 3D is PhysX

so they have fundamentally different behaviors

I mostly do 3D physics, so I get tripped up by 2D behaviors a lot

[rich adder]

Note: MovePosition is intended for use with kinematic rigidbodies.
https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/Rigidbody2D.MovePosition.html
but yeah up to you in 2D .

[naive pawn]

the documentation does state this reasoning
some cases you don't care about unrealistic behaviour, or you're modulating the velocity yourself, or you want more control

In most cases you should not modify the velocity directly, as this can result in unrealistic behaviour
Do not set the linear velocity of an object every physics step, this will lead to unrealistic physics simulation.

[queen adder]

I guess MovePosition works too but have to also multiply with fixedDeltaTime which isnt needed for linearVelocity. I will try both ways now, thank you ^^

[naive pawn]

objects teleporting isn't realistic either - but sometimes you do need that for game reasons

[rich adder]

regardless, they should be in Physics tick aka FixedUpdate

[queen adder]

but thanks for clarifying that the paddles preferably have to be rigidbodies too

oh now I have an idea, since the paddles will be kinematic rigidbodies I can add a physics material so that when the ball touches a paddle it can also slow down using friction on the paddles? all this without code

this can work right?

[naive pawn]

slow down in what sense?

[queen adder]

just out of curiosity

[naive pawn]

in pong the balls generally bounce right off the paddles, so not sure what you're going for

[rich adder]

that mainly affects the collider itself usually, so if you put friction on the collider yes the ball will try to "stick" on it

[queen adder]

ball hits paddle, ball velocity slows down due to added friction on the paddle

i know this doesnt make sense in the pong game, just my mind spinning now ^^

[naive pawn]

well, if the ball like, rubs against the paddle without rolling, it'd slow down as it simulates friction

[queen adder]

private void Move()
{
    Vector2 verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2();
    Vector2 finalInput = verticalInput * (movementSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime);
    myRigidbody.MovePosition(finalInput);
}

So this method would be used inside FixedUpdate method now correct?

or not necessarily?

[naive pawn]

in general input is frame-bound, but since this is a ReadValue it's fine to be here

(though, you are missing a closing > on that)

[queen adder]

Yeah I delete it once copying here

[rich adder]

you need to add myRigidbody.position in the calculation to make it local

[queen adder]

can you expand, not sure what you mean

[naive pawn]

MovePosition takes a position, not a delta position

[rich adder]

as shown here rb2D.MovePosition(rb2D.position + velocity * Time.fixedDeltaTime);https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/Rigidbody2D.MovePosition.html

[naive pawn]

i thought this was in 3d?

[queen adder]

2D

myRigidbody.MovePosition(myRigidbody.position + finalInput);

[naive pawn]

huh, mustve been remembering someone else's chain of discussion

[rich adder]

yes

[queen adder]

I'll have to read up on that why that is

[rich adder]

otherwise you're moving in WorldSpace rather than Local to your object

[queen adder]

private void Move()
    {
        Vector2 verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2>();
        Vector2 finalInput = verticalInput * (movementSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime);
        myRigidbody.MovePosition(myRigidbody.position + finalInput);
    }

So this method should be in FixedUpdate or Update?

[queen adder]

Ohh okay I have a vague understanding what you mean here

[naive pawn]

i feel like that's not quite accurate

you'd be moving from the origin every tick

[naive pawn]

did mention it briefly here ^

[rich adder]

yeah but its default expects a World-Space target pos

unlike Translate that defaults to Space.Self

[naive pawn]

fair enough

[naive pawn]

i don't think that's comparable, that's about global/local axes

RB.MovePosition is always global

the difference is that MovePosition takes a target position, but Translate takes a.. well, a translation from the current position, a delta position

[rich adder]

we basically saying the same thing kinda lol

[queen adder]

hmm the movement is off once I made the paddles rigidbodies

sometimes its out of sync, or seems to move by themselves with lots of latency

[naive pawn]

well.. yes, we're dealing with the same facts. i just think how you've explained it is kinda unclear

[rich adder]

true true. It happens at times lol

I guess the difference is MovePosition wants absolute position, translate expects amount to move

[naive pawn]

yeah that's what i'm trying to convey lol

[rich adder]

yea I see mb

[naive pawn]

might need to show full code to see how everything links together in your current iteration

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[queen adder]

hmm seems to have fixed itself when I unticked Freeze Position on the X axis

I dont have inputs on X axis anyway but I saw the transform position is changing very tinnily

So I think freezing the X axis somehow induced this strange behavior

[naive pawn]

well, your moveAction was a Vector2

(is that other axis even hooked up to anything? why isn't that just an axis (float)?)

[rich adder]

tru this is misleading
Vector2 verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2>();
should just be
float verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2>().y;

[queen adder]

public class PlayerController : MonoBehaviour
{
    public InputActionReference moveActionReference;
    public InputActionReference resetBall;
    public Rigidbody2D myRigidbody;
    public Ball ball;
    public float movementSpeed;
    public float yAxisBoundary = 3.05f;
    
    private void Update()
    {
        RestrictMovement();
        ResetBall();
    }

    private void FixedUpdate()
    {
        Move();
    }

    private void Move()
    {
        Vector2 verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2>();
        Vector2 finalInput = verticalInput * (movementSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime);
        myRigidbody.MovePosition(myRigidbody.position + finalInput);
    }

    private void RestrictMovement()
    {
        if (transform.position.y > yAxisBoundary)
        {
            transform.position = new Vector3(transform.position.x, yAxisBoundary);
        }
        else if (transform.position.y < -yAxisBoundary)
        {
            transform.position = new Vector3(transform.position.x, -yAxisBoundary);
        }
    }

    private void ResetBall()
    {
        if (resetBall.action.WasPressedThisFrame())
        {
            ball.HandleBallReset();
        }
    }
}

[naive pawn]

your RestrictMovement is still modifying the transform from Update

[queen adder]

so the code inside is fine but it should be in fixed update since its tied to the rigidbody?

[naive pawn]

no, you shouldn't modify the transform at all, it should all be via the rigidbody

[rich adder]

myRigidbody instead of transform

[cosmic dagger]

you should not use transform.position at all, is what they are saying . . .

[queen adder]

hmm okay, ill try that

[naive pawn]

yknow you could probably just have this as a dynamic rigidbody colliding with the walls and then set linearVelocity every tick
not saying that's better, just an alternative

[queen adder]

that could work too yup

[rich adder]

yeah i usually do it that way for pong like game / breakout.. much easier to deal with if you have any dynamic playing field

[queen adder]

going to take a brake and see how can I restrict the movement so the paddles stay inbounds

[rich adder]

just lock your Constraints so it doesnt get pushed / rotated by colliding bodies

[queen adder]

oh rigidbodies have a position property as well, didnt notice that

is there a way to stop the paddle to jitter once it reaches its boundary?

when I keep the input pressed it wants to go in and out with this jittery behavior, this didnt happen with transform.position

[naive pawn]

you could probably check for bounds before doing the MovePosition

you get a target position from the current position+input, so you could clamp that before applying it to the rigidbody

[stuck parrot]

Hey, I’m new to Unity and game development in general.
Today I finished the Essentials tutorial, and in that tutorial, the character movement was controlled using Vector2 input for horizontal movement, and jumping was done using upward force on a Rigidbody.
Now I’m trying to do stuff on my own, and ChatGPT gave me a code where movement is handled using Vector3 calculations on a CharacterController, and the jump ignores physics forces.
Which approach is better? I want to make a Super Mario 64–style game.

[rancid tinsel]

should I be adding/removing listeners for buttons the same way as for any other events (OnEnable/OnDisable), or is that handled already anyway?

[rich adder]

you can try
rb2d.Cast before moving

[naive pawn]

the better approach is not using ai-generated code tbh

but about the jumping, it's hard to comment without seeing what exactly that logic is

CCs don't really have physics to begin with iirc?

[stuck parrot]

and guessing magic spells as a beginner coder is better? 😄 I want to start creating games and not learn C# for 2 years to get moving. Also AI is still a tool that can help out a lot, so its not a bad thing. In fact without it, my character model would still be stationary, now its at least moving

[naive pawn]

no, use actual reliable sources

[stuck parrot]

no big locig behind it, get the character moving with wasd and jumping with space like every other game

[naive pawn]

"don't use AI" ≠ "don't use existing resources"

[stuck parrot]

I dont know any

[naive pawn]

you just mentioned one, the unity learn

you can find several via google or youtube as well - quality may vary, but overall it's still better than the overconfidence of AI tbh

[stuck parrot]

in the tutorial they provide most of the code except a few lines that you have to code yourself, tiny stuff. Also they mention themself to use AI for code generation in some scenarios

[naive pawn]

yeah, gotta keep the shareholders happy...

i'd still recommend against it

anyways, you could try researching about the other lines, the ones that were provided, through docs or forums as well to get a better understanding

if that's not working out, you can ask here

[rich adder]

my character model would still be stationary, now its at least moving
yet if something breaks or you need to extend on it you won't know how it works, its a black box now..you learned absolutely nothing

[stuck parrot]

ofc you do, you can write code like texting a friend. Im still confused at stuff like void

[naive pawn]

i recommend against AI for anything related to learning, not just things i already know

[rich adder]

if you typed " what is void c#" you will get plenty of answers

[naive pawn]

that's a good starting point, being able to identify the gaps in knowledge - you can research that by just searching google with the right context, really (as mentioned above)

[stuck parrot]

thats true, been there when I coded my website, now knowing html and css I wouldnt do it again but C# is a different beast, you cant just learn it by reading trough code a few times

[rich adder]

if you build a base knowledge you can

[naive pawn]

and we aren't saying to do that! utilize the available resources - docs, guides, tutorials, etc online

there's an official c# guide by microsoft for example

[rich adder]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/csharp-fundamentals-for-absolute-beginners/

[stuck parrot]

one more thing, do I need to know ALL C# commands and building blocks or is most of the stuff irrelevant for unity?

[naive pawn]

most stuff is useful to know. you might not use all of it, but it expands your options.

"c# commands" isn't really a thing

one sec

(in general) there's 3 major parts to programming:

• Language - The syntax, structure, and paradigm of each language
• Library - The interfaces and utilities that each environment or toolset provides
• Logic - The algorithms to do work at runtime

Logic is almost completely transferrable between each language and environment, you just have to learn the specific Language and Library that you're using
Language is also shared quite a bit between languages

of course, learning 1 part at a time is easier than learning everything at once, which is why tools like scratch or code.org are popular as coding courses for beginners, especially kids, because it only focuses on the Logic aspect

programming as a whole is the Logic bit
c# is the language bit
unity's specific APIs are the library bit

[rich adder]

Unity only has specific concepts like GameObject or Monobehaviour, but they don't create any special code that isn't c#

[naive pawn]

you'll need to understand the building blocks of course, but stuff like Console.WriteLine aren't useful in unity. but understanding the underlying concepts still helps

[stuck parrot]

Where would you point me first du beginn learning C# for unity? I dont want to master the language, in fact i dont lice coding at all since I want to make games and dont write scripts. But theres no real way around so I kinda have to learn the basics.

[slender nymph]

there are beginner c# courses pinned in this channel. the microsoft ones are a good place to get started

[stuck parrot]

And for code like making a character move, isnt it like reinventing the wheel? there has to be tons of premade script somewhere?

[rich adder]

as a solo dev you have no choice

[rich adder]

unity starter assets for third person or first person

[stuck parrot]

tried to use that but when i put it on an different character model it breaks

[rich adder]

yeah you probably broke it yourself by not knowing what you're doing
I swap out models on the same character no problem. I've used it in netcode as well

[naive pawn]

you'll have to code to make a game

code defines what your game is

there is the option of visual scripting but it's more limited, and you still have to learn the Library and Logic aspects i mentioned above

[grand snow]

Yea it's hard to get around learning some stuff

Code or visual code logic is needed to make shit work

[naive pawn]

while we're on the topic - do you mean the microsoft ones pinned in this channel

i remember there being some in the pinned message too but seems like it doesn't link to that

[slender nymph]

the Intro to C# one in the pins is the microsoft one

[grand snow]

One of the links is broken

[naive pawn]

....man, what.. i remember i checked one time and they were all unity learn

[slender nymph]

and it introduces some of the very basic concepts (and more if you actually do some extra digging on the site) so it's a good starting point imo

[rich adder]

this one is really good tbh
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/csharp-fundamentals-for-absolute-beginners/

ima tell admins to add it

[spare tundra]

have you hello worlded? lol weird question but has a point I promise

[slender nymph]

someone must have fixed it at some point because they all work for me 🤷

[grand snow]

Oh yea very nice 🙂

[naive pawn]

huh, last edited 24 dec 2025.. maybe there was a period where it was removed before being restored/replaced

ah, nope, i mentioned there not being any microsoft links on the 28th. guess i'm just losing it then

[void bluff]

alright thanks
here : https://paste.mod.gg/imhqitlmppuq/0

Basically I created a door with a plane in the door frame, that display a camera wich is to another place in the scene. To make it as a portal, the code actually rotate and change position of this camera depending on where I'm standing.

And to make it like it's a portal, I made a second camera that displays on the other door

like this

[naive pawn]

public Camera portalView;
that's potentially gonna be confusing, might want to consider renaming that - IDEs have tools to rename usage of that variable specifically, it's bound to F2 in vscode, not sure for other ides

[void bluff]

The issue is, when I enter play mode, the second camera have the same position as camera 1, wich breaks everything

[void bluff]

I don't really understand

example of what it does

[naive pawn]

are your otherPortal fields set up correctly?

[void bluff]

It is!

I checked it many times

[rose trellis]

Yo so i got this weird bug that doesn't let me open any project i've reinstalled the unity hub 3 times and i keep getting this pop up

[naive pawn]

you have a field that's named like a different type, that might cause issues in the future. IDEs provide tools to easily fix this

[void bluff]

so something other than visual studio?

[naive pawn]

like i mentioned before, it'd also help to show an example of the issue with more context about where the cameras end up vs where they should be, with both portals visible

[naive pawn]

visual studio is also an IDE

it also has renaming capabilities

i'm just not sure what button it's on for VS, could still try f2 though

[hexed terrace]

ctrl+r+r

[naive pawn]

mm don't like that, but ok

[void bluff]

I tried those but I don't even understand what I'm clearly looking for, f2 doesn't really work

[naive pawn]

right clicking the field would probably also have a rename option

[rose trellis]

so uh is there any fix for this huge problem or nah?

[queen adder]

@naive pawn im back. so I was thinking i need to Clamp the y axis position somehow for my paddles to stay inside the boundaries on both sides on the y axis. But I cant think of a syntaxial solution to that.

[naive pawn]

syntaxial?

[rich adder]

do you have enough C drive space

[naive pawn]

also you don't need to ping me every time you ask

just bump your previous context and ask

[rose trellis]

413Gb of free C drive space

[naive pawn]

oh, did you mean syntactic

[rose trellis]

unless unity the size of 4 cods combined i should be fine

[queen adder]

apologies, I dont have an extensive English vocabulary ^^

[naive pawn]

it's from latin, messes everyone up the first time lol

[void bluff]

this sort of menu?

[naive pawn]

it looks like you've highlighted the entire line

but yes, that sort of menu

[rich adder]

try another template mybe ?

[void bluff]

I mean ,even when I don't it's the same menu

and I don't really understand what to do in it

[naive pawn]

(to be clear, this isn't super important, just mentioned something that could be a future issue, though knowing refactor actions will still help layer)

[void bluff]

Oh alright

[naive pawn]

let's focus on the actual issue, you still haven't shown a full picture of the issue ^

[void bluff]

Oh my bad, hold on !

[rose trellis]

I've tried 5 different templates....whats weird is nothing working like i've hit delete my account didn't work tried to delete unity didnt work for some reason when i was installing unity one of the program failed to download so i hit skip and now were here!

[naive pawn]

what was your question exactly?

[queen adder]

So I do have my movement as this ```cs Vector2 verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2>();
Vector2 finalInput = verticalInput * (movementSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime);
myRigidbody.MovePosition(myRigidbody.position + finalInput);

Now I want to clamp the y axis position

[naive pawn]

didn't i briefly explain how to here #💻┃code-beginner message

[limber gazelle]

hello, where can I read about world generation algorithms and methods?

[queen adder]

Yes you said to Clamp it. So I came up with something like this but I dont know how to apply it with the movement. cs Vector2 position = myRigidbody.position; position.y = Mathf.Clamp(position.y, -yAxisBoundary, yAxisBoundary);

[naive pawn]

you would clamp on the input, before you put it in MovePosition, rather than the resulting position afterwards - that just makes it easier to control

[queen adder]

I dont know how to do that :/

[naive pawn]

the same way you did here, just on a different vector

[queen adder]

but I would be clamping my input not the position?

[slender nymph]

basically do the position math first, then clamp that. then pass the new position with the clamped Y to MovePosition

[naive pawn]

ah, my bad. i mean the input to MovePosition, not the actual user input

[naive pawn]

i described it in more detail here

[queen adder]

Thats what I think im missing the position and input math, i dont know how to do that ^^

[queen adder]

oh

let me see

[slender nymph]

you already have it in your code, you just need to move where you are doing it

[void bluff]

Here, On the left is the scene and on right the Play mode

[queen adder]

Vector2 targetPosition = myRigidbody.position;
targetPosition.y += verticalInput.y * movementSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime;

[void bluff]

The both camera overlaps, While they should both stays close to their door. When they "move"; it should just be equivalent to my movements and nothing more.

[queen adder]

holy moly it works

private void Move()
{
    Vector2 verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2>();
    Vector2 targetPosition = myRigidbody.position;
    targetPosition.y += verticalInput.y * movementSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime;
    targetPosition.y = Mathf.Clamp(targetPosition.y, -yAxisBoundary, yAxisBoundary);
    myRigidbody.MovePosition(targetPosition);
}

[queen adder]

So thats exactly what you said, but I didnt know how to glue it all together with input. I just wrote it down now but still dont understand how it works

[slender nymph]

you can clean it up a bit to look better if you revert back to adding finalInput to myRigidbody.position, just do that outside of the MovePosition arguments, then do your clamping on the result of that. then pass the new result into MovePosition

basically this:

Vector2 verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2>();
Vector2 finalInput = verticalInput * (movementSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime);
-myRigidbody.MovePosition(myRigidbody.position + finalInput);
+Vector2 targetPosition = myRigidbody.position + finalInput;
+targetPosition.y = Mathf.Clamp(targetPosition.y, -yAxisBoundary, yAxisBoundary);
+myRigidbody.MovePosition(targetPosition); 

it ends up reading a bit better than the current implementation

[queen adder]

Vector2 verticalInput = moveActionReference.action.ReadValue<Vector2>();
Vector2 finalInput = verticalInput * (movementSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime);
Vector2 targetPosition = myRigidbody.position + finalInput;
targetPosition.y = Mathf.Clamp(targetPosition.y, -yAxisBoundary, yAxisBoundary);
myRigidbody.MovePosition(targetPosition);

like so?

oh its the same haha

now since it works I need to study this how it actually works because all this multiplying and adding mixes up everything in my head

Vector2 targetPosition = myRigidbody.position + finalInput;

this is the trippy part for me where I add the input to a position

the rest i understand

[polar acorn]

Input is an XY value. Position is an XY value

[naive pawn]

vector addition is memberwise, (a, b) + (c, d) = (a + c, b + d)

geometrically, you're moving finalInput amount from myRigidbody.position

[queen adder]

so I get the rigidbody.position which is just a vector2 and the finalInput is a vector2. Lets say my rigidbody.position.y position is 0 for the left paddle in the game and I get the same value with a Debug.Log. Now I do a movement upwards which should Increase the finalInput.Y which then "ADDS" to the rigidbody.position.y "OVER TIME" thats how it changes position

I think I got it?

[polar acorn]

Whenever that line of code runs, it adds the X value of finalInput to your object's X position, and likewise for the Y value and Y position, and stores the result in targetPosition

[naive pawn]

well, the "over time" aspect is adding a little bit, drawing a frame, adding a little bit more, draw another frame, repeat

[vapid egret]

yo! I love this. I came in with a question but forgot about it because I was following along.

[naive pawn]

tab back to unity/your ide and surely it'll come back...right?

-# you gotta note your questions down first lol

[queen adder]

Yes, then the clamping happens for the position ```Vector2 targetPosition = myRigidbody.position + finalInput;
targetPosition.y = Mathf.Clamp(targetPosition.y, -yAxisBoundary, yAxisBoundary);

so basically if the finalInput.y wants to add to rigidbody.position.y and the final targetPosition.y isnt allowing > 3.05 or < -3.05 then the rigidbody stays in those boundaries

[vapid egret]

lol thanks. It came back to me.
I'm being told that calling .Move() for the character controller twice within the Update() method can lead to problems for character movement. I'm currently calling it three times, twice within the scope of conditionals, and once within the general scope of Update(). I'm not seeing any problems so far, but is this okay.

[rich adder]

you should only use one Move call

[naive pawn]

yeah, should be exactly once per Update

[undone bridge]

Hello everyone, I've been following an older tutorial and my jumping just broke while his still works, I think it has to do something with this
private bool IsGrounded()
{
RaycastHit2D raycastHit = Physics2D.BoxCast(boxCollider.bounds.center,boxCollider.bounds.size,0,Vector2.down,0.1f,groundlayer);
return raycastHit.collider != null;
}
(also idk how to share code properly so sorry)

[naive pawn]

it can mess with collisions including ground checks

[naive pawn]

!code

[radiant void]

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[naive pawn]

here's how ^

[queen adder]

Vector2 targetPosition = myRigidbody.position + verticalInput * (movementSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime) ;
``` this works too or do I still need that final Input variable inbetween like before?

[naive pawn]

is it the jumping or this grounded check? do some debugging to see if the grounded check is returning the expected value
if it is, then the issue is with the jumping
if it isn't then the issue is indeed here

[naive pawn]

any variable you only use once can be inlined, but having them separate helps with clarity

it's pretty subjective what point it turns from clarity to verbosity though

[undone bridge]

grounded check, if I change it to "== null" it starts working again but I can jump infinitely

[naive pawn]

well == null would be checking that you didn't hit anything

[queen adder]

okay so if used once like player input its okay to inline, but if I want clarity for myself I can use a separate one. Thanks!

[naive pawn]

so assuming you have a IsGrounded() condition before jumping, that would mean the jump is fine, but the raycast isn't hitting anything

[naive pawn]

what's the type of groundLayer?

[undone bridge]

[SerializeField] private LayerMask groundlayer; this?

[naive pawn]

yeah, though note that that's a layermask rather than a layer, might want to consider renaming that for clarity

is that set correctly in the inspector, and is the ground set to the right layer?

show them if you aren't 100% sure

[undone bridge]

oh I see what you meant, thanks I found it

[stuck parrot]

Hey I'm curious, since im new to unity, gamedev and programming. Do you guys get those code out of thin air or you have cheatsheets, snippets where you look stuff up from time to time. For me lerning code is like guessing magic spells and I think no way people just type code like writing an email. For me it seems absolutley impossible to write in code naturally

[hexed terrace]

This is a code channel, can you keep it to code questions.
(delete from here)

[queen adder]

Hi, well since Im a bit aware of C# syntax and things that Im familiar with or remember seeing somewhere I can write things manually, but of course I dont remember certain things, so I just look it up in the documentation or my notes. I also have auto complete or code suggestions turned off in my IDE so I remember the syntax better when im writing it myself. You will remember what to write and how to write it when you do it lots of times. Syntax is actually the easy part, the hard part is to know the logic behind it how to write it so the computer can compile it ^^

I know how to multiply two variables or values, but the harder part is to know which ones i need to multiply to get the wanted result

[wintry quarry]

You either understand what you're trying to do and know what functions and opeartions to use to do it based on experience, or you know what you want to do and look up the functions from a reference like the documentation

Once you practice enough you will start to remember those "magic spells"

It's like anything else

[vapid egret]

So even within the scope of if statements I cannot call it again?

[stuck parrot]

thats actually smart, yesterday i tried to get the auto completion tool working but I just couldnt get it running. maybe its a good thing 😄 for me both the syntax and the logic is non existent. I can write pseudocode so i write down what i want the computer to do in a logical way but its neither C# nor any other programming language

[queen adder]

I would suggest keeping it off, I forgot how to write for loops because of those auto suggestions. I turned them off now I know once I written down myself a dozen of times. I would suggest first practicing regular C# if your a complete beginner?

[stuck parrot]

any good documentations that "have it all" so I dont have to seach on 4 different websites?

[grand snow]

c#: microsoft docs for c#
unity: unity docs

or just google "c# list" or "unity box collider" and take 0.5 s to click

[vapid egret]

seems like unity's documentation 'has it all'. It's just a lot at first.

[stuck parrot]

what du you mean by regular C#? doesnt unity just use C#?

[queen adder]

Scripting API for Unity docs, just search for whatever you need

[grand snow]

c# language reference docs

[stuck parrot]

you gonna laught at me for that but what are API?

[queen adder]

Yes but if you havent programmed in regular .NET C# then Unity will be a bit hard to start with. But you still can of course.

[wintry quarry]

Not really because it depends on if you're wanting to look up something from:

• Unity's core libraries: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/index.html
• C#'s core libraries - which are on Microsoft's website
• A particular Unity package - for example here's the input system: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.18/manual/index.html
• Some third party library - could be wherever they put it

[queen adder]

Doesnt matter for now, there you'll find everything related with syntax for Unity ^^

[vapid egret]

I come from Javascript/Typsescript, so some of this is familiar. C# is much more strict, but I think that's a good thing.

[grand snow]

Knowing TS is a boon as you already understand half of what a strongly typed language offers

but in c# its not optional, its the law 🔫

[queen adder]

@stuck parrot this is an example if you want to see how to use linearVelocity of a rigidbody. Theres some explanation and of course code examples. https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/Rigidbody2D-linearVelocity.html

[vapid egret]

speaking of which, I haven't seen the use of types or interfaces yet in any of these lil tutorials I've seen. I haven't even seen it used in Creating with Code yet and I'm starting the fourth module.

[wintry quarry]

Unless you join the dynamic resistance

(don't do that)

[grand snow]

Interfaces are more of an intermediate topic but its not unitys job to teach people all about c# and object oriented programming so I dont see an issue

[grand snow]

il2cpp would like a word

[vapid egret]

Not a criticism. Just an observation.

[wintry quarry]

You might find it helpful to check this out to learn C# on its own and bring those lessons into Unity:
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/learn/csharp

I do think Unity learning paths would maybe benefit from like a quick primer on Types, classes, variables, structs, operators, methods, etc.

although maybe that's too much

[vapid egret]

I'm trying to refactor the following code so that characterController.Move() only shows up once within Update(). I need to restrict or lower the player's momentum when they jump.

        isGrounded = characterController.isGrounded;
        if (isGrounded)
        {
            if (verticalVelocity.y < 0) verticalVelocity.y = -2f;
            // Horizontal Movement
            Vector2 moveInput = controls.Character.Move.ReadValue<Vector2>();
            Vector3 moveDirection = new Vector3(moveInput.x, 0, moveInput.y);
            // Move the controller laterally
            characterController.Move(moveDirection * moveSpeed * Time.deltaTime);
            // Rotate the player to face movement direction
            if (moveDirection.sqrMagnitude > 0.01f)
            {
                Quaternion targetRotation = Quaternion.LookRotation(moveDirection);
                transform.rotation = Quaternion.RotateTowards(
                    transform.rotation,
                    targetRotation,
                    rotationSpeed * Time.deltaTime
                );
            }
            // Jump Logic
            if (controls.Character.Jump.triggered && isGrounded)
            {
                // vertical velocity sqrt of (height * -2 * gravity)
                verticalVelocity.y = Mathf.Sqrt(jumpHeight * -2f * gravity);
                // Store air momentum
                airMomentum = moveDirection * moveSpeed;
            }
        }
        else
        {
            // Override horizontal movement with air momentum
            characterController.Move(airMomentum * Time.deltaTime);
        }
        //Apply gravity
        verticalVelocity.y += gravity * Time.deltaTime;
        characterController.Move(verticalVelocity * Time.deltaTime);
    }```

dangit! sorry

[hexed terrace]

for long blocks of code like that, use a paste site

!code

[radiant void]

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[vapid egret]

fixed it

[queen adder]

where is this code from may I ask?

looks familiar, is it from the documentation?

[vapid egret]

I used some old example code but modified it to restrict character momentum during the jump.

the oldest called characterController.Move in the same scope and seemed to be based off an old version of unity.

[stuck parrot]

how do I add a double jump function to unitys default third person controller code? (I wont paste it here since its over 400 lines)

[queen adder]

what do you mean by showing up in Update once? If the whole code is in Update it will be called each frame

you have to do it with code I imagine

once the player is in the air you change something

you dont make the Move function show up once in Update

if im understanding correctly

if you want the character controller to stop moving while in the air you just code it like that ^^

[grand snow]

haha not that helpful

A double jump is a jump we allow the player to take while not on the ground. This is tracked and is allowed again once the player touches the ground again

[vapid egret]

People in the Unity forum said Move should only be called once no matter what so I came here for a second opinion. If C# is anything like Typescript, the Move inside the scope of a conditional does not interfere with the Move outside the scope. Am I correct?

[wintry quarry]

Are you talking about a CharacterController? Yes Move should not be called more than once per frame per CC.

If you have Move in two mutually exclusive code blocks it's fine as long as you can guarantee they don't both run in a single frame

e.g.

if (x) {
  cc.Move(...);
}
else {
  cc.Move(...);
}```
it's fine

although for code maintainability reasons I would still recommend reducing that to one call

e.g.

Vector3 moveAmount;
if (x) {
  moveAmount = a;
}
else {
  moveAmount = b;
}

cc.Move(moveAmount);```

[vapid egret]

I'm going to have to put my thinking cap on for that. Thank you!

[wild cove]

Hey, I want to make a script that involves multiple factors, like deleting a ton of things and resetting the players score to 0 in an endless runner when they collide with things. But all my scripts are monobehaviour and I don't know how to change all these factors at once. Should I combine all of them into a monobehaviour script or do i need to make a new blank script (I did try this once, but I wasn't sure if I needed to do it and quickly became confused with what I was doing)?

[vapid egret]

Isn'tt here something like StateMachine for things like that?

[wintry quarry]

Uh... your question is pretty vague. Not really too sure what you're asking.

Are you saying there are a bunch of things in different scripts that all need to reset when the game resets or something?

Or just like:

• something happens, a lot of things in a lot of different scripts need to change

Your two basic options are:

1. Have the script that detects the collision reference all those other scripts (either directly, or using singletons, or any way you want) and manually call all of those functions
2. Have the script that detects the collision publish an event (either C# event or UnityEvent), and have all the other scripts subscribe to that event with whatever function they need to run when that event happens. e.g. OnPlayerCollidedWithObstacle

[silk night]

Any way to normalize a vector but instead of normalizing the magnitude I want a projection on a square?

Basically if I have
2,2 -> 1,1
2,0 -> 1,0
-6,-3 -> -1,-0.5

as in is there a utility function for this or do I just calculate by dividing through the bigger of the two?

[wintry quarry]

There's no built in utility afaik

yeah I think just dividing by the larger dimension would do it

[swift crag]

There is nothing wrong with calling Move repeatedly, but you need to understand the consequences of doing so:

• The controller has a minimum movement distance. If you do several small moves, it's possible that thay'll get ignored.
• The "grounded" state of a controller only reflects the most recent movement.

use multiple Move calls if the player is actually moving in several discrete steps

(the player generally isn't doing this!)

[vapid egret]

Thanks, Fen. I'm currently refactoring to try to eliminate that second Move call.

I'm getting close I think. I'm using a finalMove variable that will change if the character is not grounded. I've also flattened the conditionals a bit.

[spare tundra]

I keep getting this is studio code ive downloaded and installed the SDK and still

[slender nymph]

restart your pc

[spare tundra]

that did it thx

[devout pelican]

Hi! Im new and learning

[spare tundra]

hi

I get this error when recreating a script I previously made that worked fine I haven't even input the code yet just named it and im already tossing this error im unsure why

nvm I got it its becuase I didnt remove the old script from the gameobject

[vapid egret]

I want to create a new action for looking in my action map for a 3d game. The action type is value, and the control type would be Vector3, right?

[naive pawn]

you don't typically look in 3 axes

for looking in 3d it's typically just pitch and yaw, 2 axes

usually roll is locked

[hybrid tapir]

thank you sooo much. i made a static function to adjust the alpha and returns it for modularness and also so i can use the triple comment thing for documentation. now no matter what the alpha will be 255 every time the color gets changed. all these years it was a transparency setting stopping me from doing what i want with colors in unity

[naive pawn]

weird though, Color.white has full alpha and so would any new Color(r,g,b) you make

[hybrid tapir]

oh

well i also just discovered that the way i select colors with the inspector setting is dead wrong

[naive pawn]

i feel like this doesn't solve the root cause, but eh that's up to you if you want to go there

[naive pawn]

how so?

[hybrid tapir]

i always drag up and left for white and drag down left for black. this sets the alpha to 0.

in the List<> cuz im a modular guy, in both color selections the alpha was 0 so on start no wonder the alpha is 0 on start

i probably would have caught this if i wasnt doing it at 2 in the morning last night

o rmaybe if i got back on when yall mentioned alpha

[naive pawn]

that's not the case, not sure what you mean by that

alpha is a separate slider entirely

(i'd also like to mention that there could be cases where you'd want transparency, so imo just setting the colors correctly rather than correcting them all to full alpha afterwards sounds like a more future-proof workflow)

but yeah if you have a serialized struct field it'll be initialized to all-zeroes, for a Color that includes alpha=0

[hybrid tapir]

ok thats what is it then

[naive pawn]

i'd guess it's that and you just never noticed beforehand

since in like, SpriteRenderers it's defaulted to 1,1,1,1, so you wouldntve had to touch alpha

[hybrid tapir]

because i have 22 elements in the list, i just added the alpha = 255 to the initialization statement in the class

[naive pawn]

you'd want alpha = 1 for Color, it's floats from 0 to 1

ints from 0 to 255 would be Color32

[hybrid tapir]

claude told me all about it

[naive pawn]

yeah maybe don't use that

[hybrid tapir]

its the only ai that doesnt lie to me and teaches me better than the pearson books

[naive pawn]

LLMs aren't designed for correctness, they're designed for believability

if there's a lie, it was stated confidently and you mightve just not noticed 🤷‍♂️

that's the main issue with "learning" with AI

[hybrid tapir]

among ai users, claude specifically is known for being good at anything coding wise but bad at everything else

[naive pawn]

they hallucinate as necessary to be convincing

[hybrid tapir]

if the unity ai was remotely helpful i would have ditched claude already

[naive pawn]

im not recommending unity AI either, i'm recommending ditching AI entirely when you're learning

but hey, your perogative to go with a resource that confidently lies as deemed necessary 🤷‍♂️

[hybrid tapir]

thats why this server is my fallback when theres problems claude doesnt correctly fix

[naive pawn]

and how many problems did it "fix" and leave behind latent bugs i wonder

[hybrid tapir]

i tweaked it as i typed it myself so there didnt end up being any bugs cuz i fixed the minor logic errors. i always give claude the context it needs for it to be mostly correct.

the only reason it couldnt fix my color problem is cuz it assumed the alpha value was staying at 255 so it didnt entertain the possibility that the alpha was the problem.

[naive pawn]

anyways, there's a reason that this opinion is held in basically every technical community, i'm not interested in debating this further tbh

[naive pawn]

alpha value 255 is invalid for a Color

[hybrid tapir]

me neither lol

another question that id rather a real person answered: is it possible for unity to do a LAN only connection through the wifi between a phone and a tv but make the room code based connection look like kahoot?

eh it mostly works time to play uno

[sour fulcrum]

Not you specifically but this kinda thinking overall is really annoying for a lot of the people that help here because instead of just needing to teach the relevant info they need to unteach the bullshit previously fed from ai

[hallow sun]

Hello, OnEndDrag doesnt seem to trigger if you pick up and drop too fast.
Added a Debug.Log and indeed it doesnt call it when this happens.
Any ideas on how to fix this?

[cosmic dagger]

pickup and drop doesn't sound like dragging. did you move enough for it to be considered a drag?

use OnDrag to check if that triggers . . .

[spare tundra]

playerTf.position = dockPoint.position;
playerTf.rotation = dockPoint.rotation;
this should set player position to dockpoint yes? it sets it at a random point

and not the dockpoint I have set

[slender nymph]

it sets it to the same world space position as the dockPoint object. if you are seeing something you don't expect then either you have assigned the wrong object to dockPoint or it is not actually located at the position you expect it to be. make sure your tool handle is set to Pivot rather than Center so you can see the object's actual position

[spare tundra]

yea basically it behaves how I want when I undock in my structure. however when I dock it places me at a random spot away from the structure in the world and I cant figure that out

undock places me correctly

just not the dock

[slender nymph]

if you are seeing something you don't expect then either you have assigned the wrong object to dockPoint or it is not actually located at the position you expect it to be. make sure your tool handle is set to Pivot rather than Center so you can see the object's actual position

oh another possibility, though more unlikely, is that the dockPoint object is being moved after you get its position

[spare tundra]

I dunno I have it set to pivot now and I see the issue but not how to fix becuase it shows my DockPoint as -5 which is right near the structure. least I can tell when I dock its putting me at -560

[slender nymph]

reminder that the inspector shows its local position, which is relative to its parent, not the world position

[spare tundra]

ohhhhhh the far corner of my structre is 0.0.0 not the whole damn thing

nvm I was thinking on the wrong assumption thats why the undock dockpoint was off I figured it out

that and looking at the right position helps

oh and I changed the parent scale to 1,1,1 from 200 so I think that messed with it also

[limpid thistle]

Can someone tell me what is wrong here? the model looks fine in the scene view, when i go into play mode it looks weird and scuffed.
I dont think it has to do with my animations or anything.
Also this only happens on my device, on other devices this works fine.
When i build this i get the weird textures (or what it is) too.

[midnight plover]

How is that a code question?

[verbal dome]

Is it (or any of its parents) really small or large or is it far from world origin?
Or it could be animation compression/skinning settings specific to your devince

[limpid thistle]

well i have no idea where the issue lies...

[verbal dome]

Yeah this is a code channel use #💻┃unity-talk or #🔀┃art-asset-workflow or something

[limpid thistle]

its not small or large, and not far away from origin. Like i said it works fine on other devices

[terse cloud]

Is there any method to create a lock on target like souls game, I need some suggestion cus can't think of a great solution

[hexed terrace]

this is a code channel, delete and ask in #💻┃unity-talk

[wintry quarry]

#📲┃ui-ux

[warped fossil]

I have a couple logic error that needs to be fixed asap. However I feel it would be too long and hard to explain in chat. Would it be possible for someone to help me in a vc

[silver fern]

are there any best practices for making a character select screen and passing that data from the selection scene to the game scene?

there are so many ways it could be done

[warped fossil]

is it a simple pick character A or character B or actual customization?

[hexed terrace]

nobody does vc, it's best to ask the entire channel than a single person who may or may not be able to help.. ending up in both peoples time being wasted

[warped fossil]

fair

[silver fern]

rn its simple character pick but some palette swap options would be conceivable

[warped fossil]

ok well if it's a simple character pick

[silver fern]

its like a fighting game character selection

[warped fossil]

I mean a static variable could just work I don't see why not

Just have the selection set the (for example) Player 1 character variable

[hexed terrace]

you don't want a static var for that, not very extendable

[warped fossil]

true

[silver fern]

then what should I do?

[hexed terrace]

ScriptableObject, assign the values to it at character select

[warped fossil]

Oh yeah mb

[silver fern]

a scriptable object that holds the selection data? and how do I best pass it to the next scene?

[hexed terrace]

SO's aren't necessarily tied to a scene. Assign the data at character select, load the SO and use it on the next scene

Or utilise multi (additive) scene loading, have a scene loaded that has all the data you need to pass around in.. load/ unload the other scenes

[silver fern]

load the SO?

[hexed terrace]

well, a component having a reference to the SO will load it for you

[warped fossil]

Damn I pressed enter accidentally mb

[hexed terrace]

share !code the correct way

!code

[radiant void]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://paste.mod.gg/, https://hastebin.skyra.pw/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://paste.myst.rs/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[warped fossil]

Oh alright

[silver fern]

I don't understand how to do that

[warped fossil]

Ok so my problem.
Basically general idea is VR game where you build a plan on a grid and then as you are building it the actual house is built infront of you

So currently HouseAssembly is attached to a gameobject "House Assembly Manager" and the SnapToGrid is in every single material block.
The blocks correctly detect if they are corners, or in a line etc. However the big house assembling is really odd as it creates a corner but the last block that set off the block that should be the corner becoming a corner block also became a corner block. That is the main issue.

The code:
https://paste.mod.gg/basic/viewer/mwmivoeoykln/0

And image just for a general idea

[silver fern]

do I make a static scriptable object

hm all the online tutorials say to just use a static variable

[timber tide]

Make yourself some GameManager singleton if you need to carry around game state

[silver fern]

I don't need to, I just want to pass the character selection from selection scene to game scene so it loads the right character

[timber tide]

That is why you make the game manager DDOL and let it live between scenes

[silver fern]

DDOL?

oh destroy on load

I don't need to keep that info after loading the character though

[frosty hound]

So why does it need to be static?

[silver fern]

I'm not sure, thats just what all the websites say

[frosty hound]

Pass the SO to the Character and be done with it

Can you link one of these websites?

[silver fern]

most of what I'm finding is some variation of this
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32306704/how-to-pass-data-and-references-between-scenes-in-unity

[frosty hound]

This is passing info between scene. You said you don't need to "keep" info after loading the character, so these are not related.

[silver fern]

I mean still need to pass it dont I?

[hexed terrace]

the answers to this give you multiple options, not just "use static"..

[frosty hound]

If assuming your Character is a unique instance per scene (as in , you've added it manually to each scene), then DDOL is the way you do it.

[silver fern]

I'm not sure if I understand that correctly but I think that's not the case. There are multiple characters players can choose from, and different players can choose the same character so there can be multiple instances

[vague marten]

Français ?

[frosty hound]

English only server

[wintry quarry]

Anglais seulement

[vague marten]

Ok sorry

[frosty hound]

What is the SO even storing, for starters?

[vague marten]

Do you Guess a unity French server ?

[wintry quarry]

not that I know of

[vague marten]

Ok

[hexed terrace]

which character has been chosen, and their chosen skin

[silver fern]

I just wanted to let players pick their characters and then have the game load those characters in the level. I don't have scriptableobject or anything yet

since I'm still trying to figure out how to best do this

[hexed terrace]

How you do it doesn't matter to answer the quesiton.
You need to know what data to keep track of regardless of the solution.

[silver fern]

well technically every possible choice can be encoded as an int or enum so in theory thats all I need

[timber tide]

using UnityEngine;

public enum Character
{
    None,
    Warrior,
    Rogue,
    Wizard,
}

public class GameManager : MonoBehaviour
{
    public static GameManager Instance { get; private set; }

    public Character Player1 { get; set; }
    public Character Player2 { get; set; }
    public Character Player3 { get; set; }
    public Character Player4 { get; set; }

    private void Awake()
    {
        Instance = this;
        DontDestroyOnLoad(gameObject);
    }
}```

[silver fern]

I can do it in any number of ways

[timber tide]

there most basic setup

[silver fern]

interesting, thanks

I suddenly see an issue with the enum approach

[wintry quarry]

(better yet use an array)

[silver fern]

I wonder if doing a string lookup or somesuch might be better actually

or I could generate the selection table from the enum

[hexed terrace]

no, strings are not a good idea for lookups or comparissons

[silver fern]

thats probably smarter

wait if I generate from enum I still have to do lookups

[silver fern]

my issue now is if I add a character to the game, I have to also manually add an entry to the selection screen, and another manual addition to the enum

[timber tide]

enums are preferable because they have a strong typing compared to strings

so adding an entry to the enum is preferable instead of doing a string lookup

[silver fern]

yeah but if I have to manually add data in three different places its bound to cause bugs eventually

[timber tide]

Alternatively we do object comparison with SOs

Easier to work with on the editor

[silver fern]

for the selection screen, each entry needs the character name and an image for each character, which I can't store in the enum. If I generate the enum dynamically I can't guarantee state. I think ideally, the selection would be generated from the files in the character folder

but then I still need to pass the name as string or character id as an int I suppose

[hexed terrace]

You use SO's then. So you don't write any new code with new characters, you create a new SO file and fill in the data

[timber tide]

I would make SO data for the characters at minimum so you have some unique references to an instance of data

then you can use this blueprint to insert it into your character mono instance

If you need a way to access these SO references, you can make unique variables likes I've done above (Player1, Player2, ect -> or as an array), or use a dictionary that points some key (Enum, String, ID) to this data

[silver fern]

alright thanks

I will try

[ornate kraken]

Which is the more preferred idiomatic code style?

    private void OnTriggerEnter2D(Collider2D collision)
    {
        if (collision.GetComponent<ScoreZone>())
        {
            Debug.Log("something happened...");
        }
    }```or```cs
    private void OnTriggerEnter2D(Collider2D collision)
    {
        ScoreZone scoreZone = collision.GetComponent<ScoreZone>();
        if (scoreZone != null)
        {
            Debug.Log("something happened...");
        }
    }```
I personally prefer the top option, but following this tutorial the second option is what they typed and it just reads little weird weird to me.

disregard the generic method name for now

[vital barn]

private void OnTriggerEnter2D(Collider2D collision)
{
    if (collision.TryGetComponent(out ScoreZone scoreZone))
    {
        Debug.Log("something happened...");
    }
}```

[ornate kraken]

How does that determine it is of the type ScoreZone though?

out ScoreZone scoreZone instead of var?

[polar acorn]

You can't use var there without specifying the type in generics

[vital barn]

Magic

[polar acorn]

You'd need to either do TryGetComponent<ScoreZone>(out var scoreZone) or TryGetComponent(out ScoreZone scoreZone)

[ornate kraken]

That's what I thought as well

In the example of Pong, why do you put the OnTrigger on the ball script rather than the area where the score zone is? It seems more intuitive to trigger when something enters vs triggering when the ball contacts something else

[queen adder]

good evening, I just touched events for the first time, I think they are regular C# events not Unity. My question is if I can call the ResetRound method in multiple other methods to invoke the OnReset event? Which tells all the "subscribers" to call their respective functions when its invoked.

public class GameManager : MonoBehaviour
{
    public static GameManager Instance;
    public int leftPlayerScore, rightPlayerScore;
    public ScoreUI leftPlayerUI, rightPlayerUI;
    public event Action OnReset;
    
    private void Awake()
    {
        Instance = this;
    }

    public void UpdateLeftScore()
    {
        leftPlayerScore++;
        leftPlayerUI.SetScore(leftPlayerScore);
        ResetRound();
    }

    public void UpdateRightScore()
    {
        rightPlayerScore++;
        rightPlayerUI.SetScore(rightPlayerScore);
        ResetRound();
    }

    private void ResetRound()
    {
        OnReset?.Invoke();
    }
}

[ornate kraken]

Hey there, haven't seen you in a while 🙂

[polar acorn]

Whenever anything calls ResetRound, all subscribers of OnReset will be called

[warped fossil]

Just gonna write a message so this doesn’t get lost

[queen adder]

Oh hey! Fancy seeing you here! You switched from the dark side of Mono to Unity? ^^

[queen adder]

Okay, just wondered if I can call that reset round method from other multiple places

[ornate kraken]

never got far into MG journey... trying to settle into Unity now.

[queen adder]

Cool! I had a break myself after learning C# now im diving deep into unity too for a couple of months now. We cant chat here unfortunately or we get slapped on the wrist ^^

It would be interesting to hear if Unity events with listeners are better to use than C# Action events?

[hexed terrace]

but the last block that set off the block that should be the corner becoming a corner block also became a corner block

This doesn't make sense to me.
You'd do well to record a video of the issue happening.

[warped fossil]

Yeah give me a little bit making food now

[vital barn]

It would be better to make Score as a separate class

public class GameManager : MonoBehaviour
{
    public static GameManager Instance;
    public Score rightScore;
    public Score leftScore;
    public event Action OnReset;

    private void Awake()
    {
        Instance = this;
    }

    public void UpdateLeftScore()
    {
        UpdateScore(leftScore);
    }

    public void UpdateRightScore()
    {
        UpdateScore(rightScore);
    }

    private void UpdateScore(Score score)
    {
        score.UpdateScore();
        OnReset?.Invoke();
    }
}

[Serializable]
public class Score
{
    public ScoreUI ui;
    public int value;

    public void UpdateScore()
    {
        value++;
        ui.SetScore(value);
    }
}

[vital barn]

It's better to use Action, but in UnityEvent you can subs in the inspector without code

[queen adder]

Thank you. i do have a SetScore function in the Score UI class

[swift crag]

I don't like to use enums for things that can easily change

[queen adder]

public class ScoreUI : MonoBehaviour
{
    public TextMeshProUGUI scoreUIText;

    public void SetScore(int i)
    {
        scoreUIText.text = i.ToString();
    }
}

[vital barn]

Instead of TextMeshProUGUI better use TMP_Text

[queen adder]

But I do understand what you mean, to separate "work" to different objects. The Game Manager would just delegate work to different classes

[queen adder]

Why and what are the differences? Thats a different component right?

[hexed terrace]

TMP_Text is the base component that TMPUGUI extends from.. it allows you to easily change between the two types of TMP and is shorter to type

[queen adder]

public TMP_Text scoreUIText;

Okay so I didnt have to change anything in the inspector too

[swift crag]

Yeah, that should be fine

Sometimes, changing the type of a field can leave you with a bad reference, even though the inspector looks okay. Notably, switching from GameObject to Transform will do that

because there are two separate things being referred to

[silver fern]

yes exactly

[swift crag]

in this case, you're still referring to exactly the same thing: the TextMeshProUGUI component

[swift crag]

For characters in a game, I'll create a ScriptableObject type that represents one character

it includes the name, a portrait, a reference to a prefab, etc.

that object goes into a list in another "catalog" asset

[silver fern]

since I'm using Mirror Networking, it seems it actually has to be a network message instead of a SO

[swift crag]

this asset identifies the character; you would send some kind of identifier in a network message to pick the character

one handy trick is to copy the asset GUID into the asset

this gives you a unique identifier

so, to pick a character, you'd send a network message containing the GUID of the character

[vital barn]

I pass the SO index to RPCs and then just get SO from the list.

[swift crag]

public abstract class Identifiable : ScriptableObject
    {
        [SerializeField] private Guid _guid;
        public Guid Guid => _guid;

#if UNITY_EDITOR
        public void ConfigureGuid()
        {
            string path = AssetDatabase.GetAssetPath(this);
            _guid = new Guid(AssetDatabase.AssetPathToGUID(path));
        }
#endif
    }

e.g.

this is using a custom Guid type, because System.Guid is not serializable

[silver fern]

I was just gonna give each character an int id

[swift crag]

That also works, as long as you make sure the identifiers are unique 😉

[swift crag]

You could also use the index of the character in the list, yeah

[silver fern]

I think that will cause problems if the list changes

[swift crag]

Sending a GUID may be wiser if it's possible that there will be different numbers of characters in the list (maybe you support mods?)

or you could've rearranged the lists in a network-compatible patch release

[vital barn]

My indexes are assigned by a separate class and it makes sure that when the list is changed, the indexes do not change for already created SO

[silver fern]

I might just be too stupid for unity or something

[queen adder]

there hasnt been an easier time to make games, think about 20+ years ago, we have it easy compared to then

[silver fern]

ig I'm too stupid to make games then?

[solar hill]

are you expecting pity from this self deprecating language or what?

[frail hawk]

not stupid, lazy

[silver fern]

idk I'm asking newbie questions but I don't understand the answers

[frail hawk]

who are you asking

[silver fern]

everyone

[polar acorn]

Ignorance is a state of being everyone starts from and can grow beyond.

Stupid is a choice.

[silver fern]

then how do I make sense of things

[polar acorn]

By putting in the effort to learn simpler things until you can combine them into more complex things

[silver fern]

but what simple thing do I have to learn here, and how? the things I see online only lead to solutions that are janky af

if I have to write my own networking library instead of mirror, this game will never be finished

[broken nest]

Hw do I set the UVs of my custom mesh?

[vital barn]

In blender

[broken nest]

I want to make meshes at runtime tho

[timber tide]

Can use the Mesh API but yeah save yourself the hassle and use blender

[vital barn]

Well mesh.uv

[broken nest]

Yeah but what do I put there I can't find antything ont the Internet

[vital barn]

mesh.SetUVs

[polar acorn]

You shouldn't be doing multiplayer at all if you have any qualms about your own ability to understand the basics

[silver fern]

but the multiplayer is the only issue, it's not a problem in single player

[timber tide]

multiplayer eh

[fickle plume]

Check these tutorials for procedural mesh manipulation. https://catlikecoding.com/unity/tutorials/ It's also pinned in this channel.

[broken nest]

Thanks

[silver fern]

yeah as it turns out scriptable objects cant be used with mirror so I'm back where I started

I can't find a solution thats better than string lookups

[timber tide]

Seems odd, but I've not used mirror but considering almost every other networking library has been fine witht hem

Perhaps you mean to say you cant send serialized SO data packets perhaps

Which is why you use IDs and that's another large concept that networking brings

[fickle plume]

You don't pass ScriptableObjects over the network, you pass data to identify the one you need. And if you need to pass entire list of properties, you pass just that and create SO from them when they are received.

[vital barn]

You can write custom serializers

[silver fern]

the whole point of the SO was to use it to pass the data, and that means I'm back to my original question, how to best pass the data between scenes

[timber tide]

I would develop this as single player first and figure out those concepts

[fickle plume]

You serialize the data, send it, deserialize and recreate SO based on it, this is how it works in any Network solution.

[grand snow]

Keeping data "between scenes" is not the same as "how to send data over the network"

If you have player data in some plain class you just keep/pass a ref to it when you load a new scene to keep it around

e.g. load new scene, spawn player, give player data

or store in a static field so its around forever

[silver fern]

ok so I just use a static int to tell the server which character to load in the next scene?

[vital barn]

No

[grand snow]

That depends on the networking solution in use

[silver fern]

the example that comes with mirror seems to do it like that, but in a very convoluted way

[grand snow]

You can use an rpc to do this work and send data easily

But if you use the same "player prefab" in all scenes then there is nothing else to send

[timber tide]

Got to think in terms of the server and who actually is storing it. Like if you just rpc the selection to the server, when you load the next scene you can just request it back.

[vital barn]

public struct ReadyCommand : IRpcCommand
{
    // player name
    public FixedString128Bytes name;
    // player prefab index
    public int character;
}

[grand snow]

If there is some concept of different characters a player can pick then this "choice" should be stored both ends (client and server)
You would use rpcs to update this when it changes but otherwise the data should be avaliable to read to use when loading into a new scene

e.g. player joins server, load previous character choice, store, send to client, done.

[timber tide]

SO idea still works but you'll need to ID them and put em into a lookup table. Use fen's idea on the GUID and generate the table at runtime.

you wouldn't send the SO over the network but just the ID key (int) which the server can then lookup

[grand snow]

Yea we should presume core game data is the same on both ends so you want to use unique ids to refer to entries when communicating

[silver fern]

mirror is really hard to understand, but I think it doesn't actually work like that

[grand snow]

it does

[desert loom]

I have a question about LayerMasks, code wise is there no way to easily compare two, like tags? Im trying to compare when an object collides with another and to check the collission mask on that object to the one I set up in the inspector.

[grand snow]

its up to you to organise configuration data correctly so you can network things well

[warped fossil]

There is two issues lmao. Obv instantiate is being run every fram but also 2 walls become corner not just one

[silver fern]

I did if (hit.gameObject.layer == LayerMask.NameToLayer("Ground"))

[grand snow]

gameobjects can only be in one layer. layer masks are different and can indicate many, all or no layers

[desert loom]

That forces you to write it out as a string. I can't do something like

[SerializeField] private LayerMask _noiseMakingSurfaces;

private void OnCollisionEnter(Collision other){
if (other.gameObject.layer  == _noiseMakingSurfaces)
}
```?

[polar acorn]

if (_noiseMakingSurfaces & other.gameObject.layer > 0)

[desert loom]

Thats works... But wouldn't that work for any layer? As long as it had one it would return true

[polar acorn]

It would work for any layer you have included in the _noiseMakingSurfaces mask

[desert loom]

There's no Type Layer is there? If i understood correctly LayerMask and Layer are not the same thing here

[polar acorn]

Oh, actually, I got it slightly wrong:
if ((_noiseMakingSurfaces & (1 << other.gameObject.layer)) > 0)

[grand snow]

yea i said they are different?

[polar acorn]

layer is an index, not a flag

[grand snow]

yay for bitshifting and bitwise comparison

[swift crag]

I use a package that generates a Layers.cs file containing a bunch of useful constants

thus avoiding that incantation

[desert loom]

Okay so bitwise comparison is the only option

[desert loom]

right sorry I was just reiterating

[warped fossil]

Oh didn't see the other code help channel mb lads

[swift crag]

https://github.com/Thundernerd/Unity3D-LayersTagsGenerator

this lets you avoid magic strings

[silver fern]

maybe the most straightforward solution is to just make a button on the selection screen for each character that sends the network message with the id of the prefab to spawn to the server

[grand snow]

Yes that would be the best solution

[swift crag]

you can create other const variables that are a combination of these

[grand snow]

sending the least amount of information needed to do the same both ends is the way to go

[swift crag]

e.g.

public const int NOISE_MAKING_LAYERS = Layers.FOO_LAYER | Layers.BAR_LAYER;

[silver fern]

alright thanks

[swift crag]

(where those variables are created by the editor script I linked)

This would also be a decent place to use a "singleton asset"

basically, a ScriptableObject that lives in a Resources folder that can load itself

    public abstract class SingletonSO<T> : ScriptableObject where T : SingletonSO<T>
    {
        private static T _instance;

        // only really needed for the editor when Domain Reload
        // is disabled.

        public static bool InstanceExists => _instance != null;

        public static T Instance
        {
            get
            {
                if (_instance == null)
                {
                    _instance = Resources.Load<T>("SingletonSO" + "/" + typeof(T).Name);
                    _instance.OnLoad();
                }

                return _instance;
            }
        }

        public static void ClearInstance()
        {
            _instance = null;
        }

        protected virtual void OnLoad()
        {
        }
    }

mine looks like this

This is great for providing serialized data (i.e. anything you can set in the inspector) in places where it'd be really obnoxious to manually assign a reference every single time

(this is what dependency injection does; don't tell anyone 🤫)

[grand snow]

Not bad but do remember you can serialize a list of scriptable objects if needed so its not a requirement

But having 1 top level config object is the best

[swift crag]

I'm talking about Twisted's situation, btw

not the player selection thing

(but I would also probably have a nice singleton catalogue of all of the characters, in hb's case 😉)

[silver fern]

I thought I should avoid singletons

[swift crag]

there is zero practical difference between this and a manually-assigned reference to the game's character assets

singletons are bad if it turns out they're not really single

[grand snow]

It can cause issues with things such as tests but beginners probably dont need to worry about that

[swift crag]

I would also separate this from singletons that you modify

this is just a read-only blob of data

singletons that you can modify the contents of (or use to modify the game world) make it harder to reason about how your game works

i call these kinds of things "catalogues"

[silver fern]

in my case, each character is a set of general controller scripts with a set of character specific data and character specific scripts

[grand snow]

Do they have a common script/type?

ideally it would be super easy to get characters such as:

Character characterPrefab = config.characters["pacman"];
Character newCharacter = Instantiate(characterPrefab);
newCharacter.DoShit();

[silver fern]

how do you mean?

[grand snow]

A common type/script on each of these character prefabs

like in my example above

[silver fern]

oh like Character? I think I would just keep a list of the prefabs and instantiate as GameObject

they do share controller scripts but there is nothing actually forcing them to

[grand snow]

That works too but we can use a component type to refer to prefabs instead (which can be useful if there is a major component you will want to get/use)

So the example works just fine with GameObject too

[swift crag]

in my game, every "thing" is an Entity

so I refer to character prefabs as an Entity

If there is genuinely no commonality between any of your characters, then GameObject is the only sensible choice

(but this is unlikely)

[silver fern]

I could in theory add some kind of empty component named character or something

[swift crag]

almost all functionality comes from "modules" that I attach to my entities

but everything is, at least, going to have the Entity component

[grand snow]

I asked because usually if you want to be able to spawn and use many of one "thing" then they all share some type

e.g. Item, Weapon, Car

I tend to not presume much OO knowledge with beginners

[swift crag]

even if you aren't doing a hierarchy of things (literally everything is an Entity for me, with no inheritance), you still probably want to have something to identify a "thing" in your game

that was an incredibly vague statement

you have...things

[grand snow]

🤷‍♂️

[swift crag]

sometimes you can abstract too hard

[vital barn]

Why you named things as Entity instead Things

[swift crag]

"Entity" is a pretty common term for objects in games (especially ones that have complex behaviors, as opposed to stuff like the level geometry)

[vital barn]

That was joke

[silver fern]

the characters arent actually encapsulated by anything but the prefab, so the classes are NetworkBehaviors

[swift crag]

are there common "entry points" on the characters that you currently use GetComponent to find?

e.g. a component that handles player input

[silver fern]

yeah, they usually do have those shared controllers for handling stuff like controls, movement, health etc, but they dont actually have to

can I require that in a prefab somehow?

but for example, I also have a target dummy that works just like a character except it doesnt have controls for example

[swift crag]

Any "zero or one" component (e.g. you either have no controls or you have one control component) would be a good field on a new Character class)

[grand snow]

why deal with 5 components everywhere when 1 do trick?

[swift crag]

my Entities have fields for things like:

• a default locomotion mode
• a default brain

since those are mandatory

[vital barn]

#1062393052863414313

[zenith gale]

ahh okay okay

[swift crag]

speaking of Entities (the other kind) :p

[vital barn]

Entities is analog of GameObjects

[grand snow]

using entity is pretending its a different engine

MonoBehaviour would do for any components we make too

[silver fern]

is there any downside to just spawning them as GameObject?

[grand snow]

no but it then requires the extra step of getting a component

having a serialized field of a component also means you can only assign a prefab with this component on it

[swift crag]

although, annoyingly

you can't pick MonoBehaviour-types from your assets

[cosmic dagger]

They are always spawned as GameObjects . . .

[swift crag]

the object picker will just show up empty when looking in the Assets tab

[cosmic dagger]

Using the Type as the return value is a convenience to avoid calling GetComponent . . .

[swift crag]

If your characters have nothing in common, then an empty Character class would only prevent you from assigning invalid prefabs to the list of characters.

If there is some commonality, then the class could also expose those features, rather than requiring you to use GetComponent

[silver fern]

alright thanks I'll have to think about that

[brisk karma]

Hey im very new to unity and game dev and made a platform and some trees with a player but cant get the player to move for the life of me. anything that i can do to learn basic player movement

[dim chasm]

Hey everyone ! Im the biggest begginer on unity, I need some help to put a script in on of my project, can someone help me with this pls ?

[slender nymph]

can you be more specific about what exactly it is you need help with?

[dim chasm]

yeah sorry

[slender nymph]

if you're looking for a tutorial, then google will be your best bet.
there are also beginner c# course pinned in this channel, and the pathways on the unity learn site are a good place to learn the basics of the engine (including how to move objects)

[brisk karma]

Thank you. Will do

[dim chasm]

I'm trying to create a script that allows the circles in my project to move (rotate). I was in the Project window under Assets, right-clicked, and selected "Create → C# Script". After that, Microsoft Visual Studio opened, but I can't see where to write my code or I don't have the option to do so

[polar acorn]

Did you open the file

[slender nymph]

double click the script in your asset folder if the file didn't open automatically

[dim chasm]

This is the result

[slender nymph]

that is the result of you double clicking the file?

[dim chasm]

yes

[slender nymph]

did you leave visual studio open or did you close it before you double clicked it?

[dim chasm]

it was closed

[slender nymph]

okay so leave it open then double click the file

[dim chasm]

still nothing 😅

[slender nymph]

!ide 👇 go through the configuration guide here. if the issue persists after following the steps then try a full restart

[radiant void]

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Select one:

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[dim chasm]

okay ty !

[upper yoke]

Hey I did a bunch of commits and after regenerating my navmesh it now looks like that (image) but i'm not sure which change it's related to, would anyone please know what could be the reasons? The floor is just a Unity plane

[chrome tide]

It’s most likely just overlapping with the floor. Try to move the planes slightly downwards - if u don’t see weird NavMesh deformations then it’s fine.

[upper yoke]

hm yup it's that but why is it happening? It wans't the case before

[chrome tide]

I don’t really know, maybe it has to do smth with the z buffer or gizmos. I had this issue once but I just ignored it.

[upper yoke]

Hmmm okay, thanks

[swift crag]

i've observed this before

i'd expect the scene-view gizmos to be pushed out of the floor slightly

try selecting an object and hitting F to focus on it

this will update your near and far clip distances

if this is happening because the depth buffer is just slightly too imprecise, then this could fix it

just checked in my editor, and the navmesh visualizer is pushed a fair bit away from the floor

I use physics colliders, rather than renderers, for my navigation

I wonder if the latter winds up putting the surface exactly flush with the floor

[vital barn]

To be honest, such an artifact means that the NavMesh is pressed as close to the floor as possible, so this is not a bug, but a feature

[chrome tide]

Well, it is pushed slightly up so it wouldn’t be an issue. Maybe it’s a voxelization issue which makes it detect the ground at slightly different height, but it shouldn’t be the problem if the NavMesh itself looks flat ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plain forge]

Hello,
I am trying to generate a cube mesh via script but my cube mesh is looking weird. Can you help me?
Here's my generation code: https://pastebin.com/3YmbXExq

(I am running the method via button by an editor script)

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[swift crag]

The blobby look is probably from screen-space ambient occlusion (SSAO); however, that's not the root cause

You only have eight vertices for this cube, so it's not possible to get sharp edges.

Adjacent triangles are sharing vertices

Each face shoul get its own four verts

[plain forge]

I suspected that but some resources said 8 vertices would be enough

Thanks I'll try that

[swift crag]

Eight verts would be enough with what Blender calls "split normals"

that lets you assign a normal vector per face-corner

Unity does not have such a concept; each vertex has a normal, and that's it

When you import a flat-shaded model, Unity splits the vertices so that each face gets its own verts

try importing a smooth-shaded cube and a flat-shaded cube and comparing their vertex counts

if you only want to generate flat-shaded meshes, then you can create a new mesh where you never reuse vertices

[golden bobcat]

why is my rotation messed up?

[swift crag]

this is directly setting the camera's rotation based on the latest bit of mouse input

you generally want to add up inputs over many frames

so, perhaps mouseX += ... and mouseY += ..

I see you're clamping it later

[slender nymph]

you also do nothing with forward or right or the return value from Mathf.Clamp

[swift crag]

so maybe you just forgot to do += instead of =

(well, trying to clamp it :p )

[golden bobcat]

Operator '+=' cannot be applied to operands of type 'Quaternion' and 'Quaternion'

[vital barn]

He said mouseX +=

[upper token]

I honestly don't know how to fix this, I did something wrong

Can someone suggest a solution?

[vital barn]

Yes

You stuck on duckshot

Because there no transitions

[swift crag]

Each arrow is a transition. Transitions are the only way to move between states (unless you're calling Animator.Play to directly switch to a state)

[upper token]

thanks

[hallow sun]

Posting this again: IEndDragHandler is not calling if i drop the item as soon as possible.

• Debug.Log is not getting called.
• This is regardless of distance dragged.
  Any ideas on how to solve this? Its a big issue for my inventory system since the item is left unselectable because OnEndDrag is where i reactivate blocksRaycasts.

[vital barn]

Try use input.mouseDown in update

[teal viper]

Perhaps it didn't register as a drag at all..? How are starting it?

Are you using IBeginDragHandler?

[hallow sun]

Yes im using IBeginDragHandler, which deactivates blocksRaycasts so IDropHandler can work on inventory slots, the issue is caused by calling Begin but not End.

[pure drift]

!code

[radiant void]

Posting code

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[hallow sun]

Main class: https://paste.mod.gg/otmdighmxrvf/0
Base class: https://paste.mod.gg/bmasmjwzpfbd/0

[pure drift]

https://pastebin.com/t0Eci7jZ could someone help me figure out why my player isnt moving towards the target proparly im kinda confused as i think i implemented seek correctly but maybe i did something wrong in unity any help would be appreciated

[teal viper]

If begin is Called, end must be called as well. Though the drag needs to end in the same ui element where it started I think.

[obsidian gazelle]

Hey i tried coding moving animation but when i press the down the down animation for walking doesnt play but when i press the down and the left or right and the same time the animation plays am i doing something wrong in the code

[golden bobcat]

im trying to make a pickup system and i don't know how use rb.addforce to get it to its target location

[wintry quarry]

It would be less math to just set the velocity

[golden bobcat]

Yea but i don't KNOW HOW

[wintry quarry]

how to do what specifically

set the velocity?

[golden bobcat]

Yea towards the point

[wintry quarry]

Well, think about it

do you know how to calculate the offset vector from where the object is now to where it needs to go?

[golden bobcat]

no

only the offset from the camera

[wintry quarry]

You can get an offset from any point A to any point B simply as B - A

from there, what do you think we'd do with that?

[golden bobcat]

grabbedRb.AddForce(target); ???

[wintry quarry]

again we're not talking about adding forces here

just setting a velocity

you ignored everything I wrote so far

[golden bobcat]

grabbedRb.velocity(target - grabbedRb.position, target);

i know it has a syntax error but

[golden bobcat]

what now

i don't know how to set the velocity

[wintry quarry]

grabbedRb.linearVelocity = whateverVelocityYouWant;

[golden bobcat]

'Rigidbody' does not contain a definition for 'linearVelocity' and no accessible extension method 'linearVelocity' accepting a first argument of type 'Rigidbody' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

[wintry quarry]

then you're using an older version of Unity

and it's just grabbedRb.velocity

[vital barn]

Do you have ide or just code editor?

[golden bobcat]

i do

i have ide

[vital barn]

Well you can see hint

[golden bobcat]

just im ass at codding

[vital barn]

Also what your unity version

[golden bobcat]

2022.3.62f3

[vital barn]

Ok

Yes just velocity

[vital barn]

Btw in Unity 6 you can hide unity splash screen for free

[golden bobcat]

man i would rather use assembly then ts

i give up

[small zealot]

Im trying to put a game object inside a script inside the inpector but it doesnt let me and if I click the plus and click on the gameobject it says type mismatch can someone help me out?

[wintry quarry]

Sounds like you're probably trying to reference an object that's in a scene from an object that is an asset (such as a prefab)

prefabs cannot reference objects inside scenes

[small zealot]

heres a screenshot do you think thats what im doing?

[wintry quarry]

Well from this screenshot I have no idea what you're trying to drag and where, but this screenshot is showing you editing a prefab

which object are you trying to drag and where are you trying to drag it to?

[small zealot]

im trying to drag the player at the top left into the box at the bottom right that syas type mismatch

[wintry quarry]

what type is the field

[small zealot]

how do I check that?

[wintry quarry]

How did you declare it

what type did you declare it as

public ???? movement;

it will also show in the field when you don't have the type mismatch error

it will say None (SomeType)

[small zealot]

The player setup script is

public class PlayerSetup : MonoBehaviour

[wintry quarry]

not what I asked

I'm asking about the field

the one you're trying to assign

What type is it

Show the full script if you're confused.

[small zealot]

oh None (Movement)

my bad

[wintry quarry]

Ok so it's a Movement

[small zealot]

yes

[wintry quarry]

you can and should just do this

click and drag that component directly in

[small zealot]

it doesnt let me

[wintry quarry]

Try opening the prefab in the dedicated prefab view

isntead of thjis prefab preview thing

like - find yhour prefab in the assets folder (in the project window) and double click it

then try

[small zealot]

im pretty sure thats what ive been doing

[wintry quarry]

if that still doesn't work then can you share the full PlayerSetup and Movement scripts?

[small zealot]

ill send the scripts

[wintry quarry]

no what we are looking at is you clicked the right arrow next to the GameObject that is an instance of the prefab in your scene

[wintry quarry]

Ok you have a problem here

your class is actually called movement and that's the one that's attached to your player

you probably have a duplicate script somewhere else that is defining Movement

since they don't match, you're getting type mismatch