💻┃code-beginner

[cosmic dagger]

a trigger is an area mainly used as a detection zone that persistently checks objects entering, staying, or exiting . . .

[scarlet pasture]

so gifs are not allowed

thanks bro didnt know that

[languid pagoda]

    private void BuildMap(string outPath)
    {
        Debug.Log($"IsValid={Steamworks.SteamClient.IsValid}, IsLoggedOn={Steamworks.SteamClient.IsLoggedOn}");


        Debug.Log(outPath);

        if (Directory.Exists(outPath) == false)
            Directory.CreateDirectory(outPath);

        ModToolUtility.BuildAssignedBundlesFor(mapAsset.mapScenes, outPath, BuildTarget.StandaloneWindows64,
            BuildAssetBundleOptions.UncompressedAssetBundle | BuildAssetBundleOptions.AssetBundleStripUnityVersion | BuildAssetBundleOptions.ForceRebuildAssetBundle);

        var json = JsonConvert.SerializeObject(mapAsset.mapBundlePaths, Formatting.Indented);
        Debug.Log(json);
        File.WriteAllText(outPath + "/mapmanifest.json", json);


        Debug.Log("Created map manifest");
    }

why am I getting this error? Doesn't matter if folder exists already or not it throws that error until I press cancel then it builds the asset bundle anyways??

[sour fulcrum]

iirc this relates to having scene files assigned to assetbundles that have non-scene content?

if that maybe helps

[agile walrus]

Hello. I'm from Brazil and I'm still a programming beginner. I have to develop a rhythm system for a project. Does anyone have any tutorial suggestions?

[wintry quarry]

obligatory reading for any rhythm game in Unity: https://www.gamedeveloper.com/audio/coding-to-the-beat---under-the-hood-of-a-rhythm-game-in-unity

[agile walrus]

Thanks for the suggestion. I appreciate it.

[visual ginkgo]

hii guys, i have a question. is there a way to speed up unity compiling after script changes? it takes seconds and seconds even if i change a single number in my script hahahah

maybe some way to compile at the same time i make changes or idkkkkk D::

[teal viper]

You can disable automatic refrresh in the editor preferences to prevent it from compiling automatically(would need to trigger it manually when you're done with the changes though).

[visual ginkgo]

thank uu, does it speed up my development?

[teal viper]

If automatic compilation in the middle of script changes hinders your development speed, then yes.

[rich adder]

something you need to get used to at this moment, no way to speed up. Instead of changing numbers in script and compile again, expose them in the inspector so you can change them with variables there

[visual ginkgo]

thank u guys, appreciate it ❤️

[rich adder]

sad reality of old backend, they're supposed to be merging to new core clr so hopefully that happens compile will be much faster

[visual ginkgo]

i know there'a a "tool" called "hot speed reload" or something like this

but idk if it's worth

[rich adder]

hot reload ? don't know much about it but seen mixed feelings on it

[teal viper]

You could also disable domain and scene reload on compilation, which should speed up iterations quite a bit, but there are some things you need to be aware of ig you do it. Check the documentation for more details.

[paper delta]

never joining a C# server again

they telling me to just do it💔

[winged ridge]

Sure that wasn't nike

[winged ridge]

So hot reload is a major thing in Unreal engine 5.. and it was buggy as heck so it was recommended not to use it as it just lead to crashes etc

[deft nymph]

Why?

[paper delta]

they tell me to just do it and then tell me to do non beginner stuff

[deft nymph]

Well doing non beginner projects can also help to understand how things work as you will do more research and search out in google for solution

[fast relic]

just do what? and what "non beginner stuff"?

[paper delta]

words i dont understand

[fast relic]

i can't know what they are if you don't say the words

you can ask about those words or keep not understanding them, which would you rather

[winged ridge]

Start with unity learn
And if general c# you can check out Microsoft education page

!learn

[radiant void]

:teacher: Unity Learn ↗

Over 750 hours of free live and on-demand learning content for all levels of experience!

[winged ridge]

I'll find a link for you

[paper delta]

ty

[winged ridge]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/

[green snow]

hey I'm trying out the navmesh system and I'm having a problem with the enemy starting halfway inside the surface area

[winged ridge]

Is the nav mesh agents property set up right, if you have a capsule and it's a child object you raised 1 unity unit up, and the agent component on the main parent object it will make the capsule go down by 1 unit

[green snow]

my enemy hierarchy is a GO with just a transform and navmesh agent with 2 children, 1 for eyes and 1 for the body and they both have a capsule collider and mesh

[green snow]

the agent has to be on the same GO as the collider?

[winged ridge]

I mean I'd put your colliders onto the enemy as well as the agent as opposed to body

And set it properly, the eyes wouldn't want to have colliders unless they are physics objects

[green snow]

awesome thanks

works

I thought I could have a parent GO just for the navmesh agent and the script that I could attach to with children that contains the colliders, etc.

[winged ridge]

In general parent passes down to a child.. scripts go onto parent and on the rare occasions a child needs a script it should be able to be called from the parent too

[green snow]

oh so I'd just get the navmesh agent from the child in the parent script?

[winged ridge]

If you need it yes

GetComponentInChildren<>() etc

[elder canyon]

Nice, I did this few weeks back.

Same DFS based maze generation

[maiden drum]

For a 2d pickup system. What's the better approach?

• a 2d criclecast and then iterate over the pickables
• Registering/unregistering via ontriggerenter then iterating over the items

I'm expecting my pickup range to be modified via buffs

[tired python]

I kinda know how DFS works, but I have no practical examples of using it. How did you do it?

[shadow field]

Hey I'm making a local mulitplayer game, I wanna add a Lobby in which the players can already spawn.
Those players are stored in a static List. When changing to the next Scene a game initator is looking through this static List and is supposed to spawn all player gameObjects in the List.
The problem is that the gameObjects are getting destroyed when loading the next Scene. Does somebody know how I could prevent this or has another take on spawning players in a new scene.
I want to spawn the same gameObject because I think I dont have to handle any things like, which controller is connected to which Player because thats handeld by the Player Input Manager.

[tired python]

i want to play this audio called thruster when the user presses his left mouse button and to stop when he releases it. i know that i am supposed to get the audio loop set to true, but i don't know what to do to access it...

[shadow field]

you cant loop audioClips, only the audio source has a loop setting you can set to true, now you have to load the audio clip into the audioManger and play it now

[tired python]

also, audioManager is an instance of the class Audio

[tired python]

i do have the audio for sfx set into the audio manager...it's called SFXSource

or should i create another moethod inside the Audio class to set loop = true?

[sour fulcrum]

just a minor nitpick, generally in at least unity the term Manager tends to be associated with a Singleton / singular instance of a specific class. ideally if it is 1 singular manager the class should be AudioManager or if it's not it might read better as AudioController

[tired python]

what do you mean when you say singular instance?

[shadow field]

no i think its just rather audioManger.SFXSource.loop = true; instated of audioManager.thruster.loop = true;

[earnest meteor]

i have a problem

[sour fulcrum]

like if an enemy has a component that handles audio, that is more of a "controller"

but if this was a class that is only meant to exist as 1 instance only, that is more of a "manager"

[earnest meteor]

if i try installing unity

then it just doesn't work

[sour fulcrum]

this is correct but also in PlaySFX() you would need to use Play() instead of PlayOneShot()

[shadow field]

sure

[tired python]

but the thing is...i have other sfx instead of just the thruster. won't it start looping them as well?

[earnest meteor]

i get an error on the last asset I try installing

[shadow field]

thats what im trying to say, you can only enable a loop on a audio Source and not a audio clip

[tired python]

does Play(), inherently set the audio clip for a looping mechanism?

[shadow field]

the audio clips are just "used" in the audio sources

[shadow field]

is the asset for your unity version?

[earnest meteor]

look this is rlly anoing and I tried fixing by switching the location

[earnest meteor]

unity player

[sour fulcrum]

the opposite, Play() plays the clip in that audiosource and if that audiosource is set to loop, then it will loop

as the name says, PlayOneShot() will only play one shot of that clip regardless of the setting

[tired python]

wait, then how the hell do i manage two diff SFX, one of which i wanna loop and the other which i don't wanna loop?

[earnest meteor]

i try making a vr game but the first step that is hard to fail, I fail at!! AND IT'S ALWAYS MEEEE

[rugged beacon]

just create another source, its not weird to have multiple audio sources for each sfx

[shadow field]

yea thats a pain, most of the time we need one audioSource for one specific audioClip

[sour fulcrum]

It can get abit more complicated the more you get experienced and comfortable with it but in general you probably want an AudioSource for each "kind" of sound seperated by if those sounds might be playing at the same time

[earnest meteor]

can anyone just help

[tired python]

it would be so much easier if we could set an audioclip to loop....

[sour fulcrum]

that would not help you

[tired python]

why not

[earnest meteor]

ok so look at the latest img i sent in this channel

[sour fulcrum]

imagine this is your audio source

this is 1 AudioSource/Speaker

then you put 1 AudioClip/Cassette into the AudioSource to play it.

you can play the song once, on repeat etc. but if you want to put another AudioClip/Cassette in, you'd have to take the current one out

except with playoneshot, but that is not compatible with looping

[rugged beacon]

you can also do audioclip.length then play it again after that length also

[earnest meteor]

pls HELP MEEEEEEEEE

[sour fulcrum]

What sounds are you trying to play right now? Some context might help

[earnest meteor]

I CANT INSTALL UNITY PLAYER

[shadow field]

or you could implent a boolean in your PlaySFX Method, one that would enable loop, or disable it

[shadow field]

bro chill

if you gonna cry like that nobody gonna help you

[tired python]

when i leftclick, i want thrusters to work and i want an audio clip to play on loop while it's active

[sour fulcrum]

Thrusters on?

[tired python]

it's active when i press leftclick, and stops when i release

[sour fulcrum]

as in

[tired python]

spaceship

[sour fulcrum]

ok cool, and you play as the spaceship right

[sour fulcrum]

Lovely, Just so i'm sure, could you post the full script that deals with that mouse stuff you showed here?

[tired python]

https://paste.mod.gg/xnulsxreemel/0

[shadow field]

do you have enough storage space on your machine?

[balmy pelican]

Just make an audio source specifically for thrusters. Set it to looped. Whenever you want to play it, just do audiosource.play, then audiosource.stop

[earnest meteor]

yes

[tired python]

ya doing that rn

[earnest meteor]

yes

[balmy pelican]

you mean thats what you already did and it's not working or you're currently doing that to fix it?

[tired python]

no, i meant, i am trying to change it to what you said, which is what the others recommended too

[balmy pelican]

oh alr gl

[sour fulcrum]

Thank you, gonna give you some more general advice that isn't the fastest/most direct way to solve your problem but might help you understand how to do this abit better in the long run

so first of all, your Audio class has some shared responsibilities, it's meant to play some stuff for your player but also it's got stuff like the music for the game. Personally I think it's better to separate this kind of thing as it's important to consider which part of your code should "own" something.

eg. make
AudioManager (or even in a/the GameManager)
-Exists in the scene a single time
-Is basically "god" and is responsible for the "global" audio (eg. music)

then honestly put the audio stuff related to the Player/Ship in Player directly, separate from the AudioManager

then from there, like what we've suggested previously have an AudioSource per type of sound so they can be configured for different purposes. if your game is simple that might just mean an audiosource per audioclip

if that is confusing let me know and/or feel free to ignore for now 😄

[tired python]

let me know if i am wrong. what you are saying is for me to make a class called AudioManager which doesn't really have any members which are audioclips. Ideally i would wanna have the audioclips present in the player controller script and access AudioManager to play clips the way i want to using it's methods?

[sour fulcrum]

I understand why you would think that and that's not a bad line of thinking but I mean more like

AudioManager (or directly in a GameManager)

AudioSource musicSource;

AudioClip musicClip;


private void Start()

musicSource.Play();

you could potentially do what your describing if you want more control in that regard later down the line though absolutely

but im more so pointing out how stuff will be abit easier to manage when each part of your game "owns"/controls that part of the game specifically

[tired python]

and this is where i say that i kinda understand the theory part but i don't know how it's even applicable. Once this game is over, and i start my next one, i am gonna have to refer to it....

[tired python]

ya...the way the tutorial managed stuff is absolutely dog

[sour fulcrum]

Another example of this is in your Player class right now, your managing the games high score and scene reloading. Should the Player be responsible for the games high score and scene reloading?

[balmy pelican]

Are you using this video as a reference? I really like this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8whM1GjH4w&t=48s

[sour fulcrum]

the player being responsible for moving around, activating it's booster mechanic, reacting to incoming collisions etc. all makes sense for the Player/Ship to be in charge of

[tired python]

this was what i referenced after, that's why i had the same variable names

[shadow field]

actually just try to restart you pc and install it again

helps sometime

[earnest meteor]

ok i will try ty

tysm bro

[balmy pelican]

By the way, audio managers are usually more for 2d games. They are still applicable in 3d games but because the sound is expected to be "global" (mono), it's not used for all sounds in 3d games.

[tired python]

thx for the info but i wont be making any 3d games, my pc wont be able to handle it xD

[sour fulcrum]

its just a naming convention / responsibility allocation, it has no correlation with if the game is in 2d or 3d

[balmy pelican]

The audio manager they are using (the one in the video) is used in a different way compared to what you're talking about

It's a global audio manager that plays oneshots of sound clips. The audio manager is referenced in scripts and a function is called that plays the oneshot.

[sour fulcrum]

that isn't correlated with 2d vs 3d

[balmy pelican]

it is, as the audio manager is always expected to be 2d (mono) since it's global

[earnest meteor]

My unity wasn’t installing because I had it installed on two discs the C and D and the C was completely full and I had it installing on C so I had to uninstall it on drive C. Now its installing on D

[balmy pelican]

The sound itself is played from the audio manager, it doesn't change position. That's why it can't be played in a 3d space if you're looking for stereo sounds.

[earnest meteor]

wdym i have intel(R) 13700 i7 and no gpu (I do have intergrated gpu) and for me it works fine

[tired python]

maybe try getting rid of temporary files on c, also, i think this is more a topic for #💻┃unity-talk maybe?

[tired python]

i have a 3rd gen i3 no gpu 8 gigs of ram

[earnest meteor]

Owwww you are so smart how didnt i know

[earnest meteor]

Owww well ill be complaining while i dont have to

I guess I’ll be uninstalling the temporary files then

[paper delta]

alright

people have been leading me to wrong places

ima just learn from vids and w3s

for scripting

final

[shadow field]

👍

[earnest meteor]

I didn’t wanna wait so I just already deleted the files, so yeah

Now let’s see how many disc space I have I just got one gig for yes sir

Oh never mind there’s an update

[shadow field]

yes does count

but you can never be sure if its gonna be the fix

[shadow field]

oh i can smell that you wanna make game dev videos xD

its windows, get used to it

[earnest meteor]

Me?

[shadow field]

from the amount of videos you are already posting, yeah

[earnest meteor]

Oh but not wrong i have a yt channel at 1k rn

[shadow field]

and you already cry like a big one

no offense

[fast relic]

-# if you do you better learn how to screen record

[earnest meteor]

Yeah ik

[shadow field]

oh nah not anytime soon

[earnest meteor]

I dont take things personal

[shadow field]

might be an advantage

[earnest meteor]

I am autistic ahh fuh so

[naive pawn]

uh this is the unity server

please try to keep it on-topic

[earnest meteor]

Ok sry

I will

[shadow field]

you are a unity autist right

[earnest meteor]

Go to offtopic so we dont get banned

[naive pawn]

there isn't an off-topic channel here

[hot wadi]

How do u know I have autism

[fickle plume]

There's no off-topic here

[earnest meteor]

Oh noo

[shadow field]

gg

[naive pawn]

yeah the server is kinda focused on unity help/discussion

[fickle plume]

@earnest meteor Also this is a coding channel, if you have general questions use #💻┃unity-talk next time

[paper delta]

i love w3s😭

[spice shoal]

I'm super confused on why my bean is floating up, I was reading up on some stuff and I think its something to do with flattening the camera's forward vector, and normalizing it but i have no clue what I need to do for that

[keen dew]

The movement script needs to be on the capsule, not the camera

[spice shoal]

dang i did not see that

now he just flops around

[naive pawn]

if it's with an RB, make sure you've locked X and Z rotation

[naive pawn]

configure your ide

!ide

[radiant void]

💡 IDE Configuration

If your IDE is not autocompleting code or underlining errors, please configure it.

Select one:

• Visual Studio (Installed via Unity Hub)
• Visual Studio (Installed manually)
• VS Code
• JetBrains Rider
• :question: Other/None

[spice shoal]

now its not seeing the rb

[fast relic]

well yeah of course, you're not ignoring the y component of the camera's forward vector

so if the camera points up you're gonna move up

[naive pawn]

what do you mean by "it" and "seeing"

[spice shoal]

i got it to detect it

[spice shoal]

what could i do to make it ignore it?

[fast relic]

set it to 0

(not on the actual camera, just a copy of the vector)

and then normalize it so you still move at the same speed

[keen dew]

The issue was already solved by using the correct object to determine the direction. None of that is necessary anymore

[spice shoal]

def not fixed lol

[naive pawn]

make sure you're rotating the right things

[fast relic]

well yeah of course, if you make it so you can rotate the player around the x axis it's gonna rotate around that axis

[naive pawn]

generally, the camera should be a child of the rigidbody, and the camera only pivots up and down, while the rigidbody can rotate left/right

also, configure your IDE if you haven't. it's a requirement to get help here

[fast relic]

idk about a requirement but it's definitely a good thing to do either way

[keen dew]

The movement script should be on the capsule. Keep the camera rotation script where it was

[naive pawn]

it is a requirement.

[fast relic]

(you shouldn't be screenshotting code from your ide anyway)

[naive pawn]

#🌱┃start-here

[keen dew]

If you're following a tutorial, set it up the same way as it is in the tutorial

[spice shoal]

I'm mixing a bunch of code and getting bits i need from tutorials

[keen dew]

If you're not following a tutorial exactly then you should at least make it clear to yourself what each part does. The keyboard movement should move the entire player (the capsule), looking up and down should move the camera, and looking left and right should rotate the capsule

[spice shoal]

👍

[naive pawn]

have you configured it?

[spice shoal]

im trying to figure it out

im confused on what its wanting me to do...

bc i have it installed and everything it highlights errors but idk

[naive pawn]

what do you mean by "it" here

we aren't over your shoulder, man

[spice shoal]

lol im just a bit confused

[naive pawn]

we have no idea what step you're on

[chrome apex]

Why can I not rotate my head bone via transform even if I masked it out with a layer mask?

[naive pawn]

are you referring to an avatar mask?

layermasks don't inhibit movement

[spice shoal]

true but i also don't know where to start

[chrome apex]

yes

[tender mirage]

Curious, question about the unity tilemap if anyone is familiar with it. is streaming enabled for it by default? i feel like it is, since i loaded a massive amount of tiles using bounds and the game performed just fine.

[naive pawn]

perhaps ask the folks in #🏃┃animation then

[fading spade]

are patterns beginner coding concepts

[naive pawn]

there are steps laid out for you

https://unity.huh.how/ide-configuration/visual-studio-code

[naive pawn]

depends on the pattern, and depends on what you consider "beginner"

[spice shoal]

this would have been nice it sent me somewhere else with the other one

[naive pawn]

that links to the same page

[naive pawn]

the first step in this page is just going through the page linked in !ide

[fading spade]

i'm bit dumb so i'm considering MVC pretty beginner level

rn I am making a gui manager and scene manager interface that gets implemented to pass stuff between the two. This is what i have but it just feels like a fancier type checking.

[fast relic]

-# i mean aren't most programming patterns just fancier type checking

[fading spade]

-# they run command of implementations without knowing the type, just an overarching interface 🤓 🤓 🤓

[fast relic]

yeah, that's usually a good practice

something something solid

[fading spade]

yeah, which i got half of it down, not checking what type of scene it is.

but the other half

idk if there's a way to do away with hiding what type of data is being passed.

[fast relic]

you could also pass interfaces or abstract classes in there if you're feeling very fancy

[calm hare]

Hey guys im trying to figure out which game engine to stick to, tried godot,roblox,unity and unreal engine, im trying to start out with a 2d game, what do yall recommend i pick

Im also not good at scripting

[spice shoal]

configured

[sour fulcrum]

your gonna have to get some experience scripting

[fading spade]

but how would those interface know what manager they're in

[fast relic]

which one did you like more? it's really about preference more than anything

[fast relic]

do they need to? you're referring to the ones passed to the HandleX methods right?

[calm hare]

I want unity but i hear its not good for beginners

I want unity because i just feel used to it

[fast relic]

where did you hear that? it should be just fine for beginners - it has a lot of free resources online and abstracts away a lot of the lower level details

[calm hare]

I see, 1 question: do u know how to code?

[fast relic]

well.. yeah sorta?

[calm hare]

How long did it take to get where you are rn

[fading spade]

yeah
the idea is that multiple managers implement this. They all do different things with each data.
if the method param passes an interface, and calls the interface's methods, how does the interface's method know what to do

[fast relic]

hmm i started i think in late 2023 or early 2024

but i started actually seriously learning programming/gamedev around summer of 2024 iirc

[calm hare]

Was it worth it? Do you feel a change between what you can do now and before, or are u still lost?

[naive pawn]

don't base your expectations off other people's experiences. your journey will not be the same as anyone else's

[fast relic]

well i can definitely do a lot more now than when i just started haha
i didn't start with unity right away tho

[calm hare]

I know that but im trying to set some expectations

[fast relic]

but yeah definitely, everyone learns differently and at their own pace

[naive pawn]

i literally just said to not use that for expectations

[calm hare]

Well im gonna but i will take it with consideration

[naive pawn]

it can take 2 different people 2 weeks or 5 years to reach the same point

[calm hare]

Alright well

[naive pawn]

and what you learn will be specific to what you want to make as well

[calm hare]

Thats about all i wanted to ask for now

See ya thanks

[fading spade]

thing with roblox is that it's not exportable

neither the game you make nor half of the skills you use.
it's also a bit limited

[fast relic]

tbh, from my experience, a lot of skills in terms of coding transfer between (even seemingly completely different) languages and engines

[naive pawn]

definitely

(in general) there's 3 major parts to programming:

• Language - The syntax, structure, and paradigm of each language
• Library - The interfaces and utilities that each environment or toolset provides
• Logic - The algorithms to do work at runtime

Logic is almost completely transferrable between each language and environment, you just have to learn the specific Language and Library that you're using
Language is also shared quite a bit between languages

of course, learning 1 part at a time is easier than learning everything at once, which is why tools like scratch or code.org are popular as coding courses for beginners, especially kids, because it only focuses on the Logic aspect

[fading spade]

coding transfers definitely
but effectively using the editor doesn't

[naive pawn]

(you might be thinking of "portable"?)

[fading spade]

(maybe, i'm not fluent in terminologies)

[fading spade]

but anyway i'll probably stick to this for now

and hope it doesn't become a nightmare to upkeep

on another note

should i give every class monobehaviour
i heard as long as Update methods are not declared, the cost should be insignificant

[naive pawn]

only if they make sense to be components

[calm hare]

Btw

[naive pawn]

not all classes need to be components

[naive pawn]

just ask your question, you don't need to lead with this btw

[calm hare]

Is it better if i just watch tutorials, try to make a game and watch relevant tutorials as i go

[runic lance]

this seems a bit weird, why would the interface care about who called it?

and if it absolutely needs to care, then the caller should be provided as parameter

[naive pawn]

that can work, yeah. just make sure you're learning/understanding what you're doing, rather than just following completely blindly

[fading spade]

say i have a weapon
it can be a display, or it can be functional
but both will need access to a data class. should the data class be a monobehaviour or is it find as native c#

[fast relic]

imo, the best approach is to watch tutorials and NOT follow them, but instead, try to apply what they show in a different way

[naive pawn]

sounds like the data class should be an SO (ScriptableObject)

[fast relic]

i see way too many people blindly follow tutorials and then be unable to do anything on their own

[calm hare]

Sounds gud

[fading spade]

The idea with that interface was
-instead of the individual data types being passed into different method
-one method handles with an interface param will just call the interface's method.
Except the sceneManager is meant to be implemented by classes that handles the data differently

[runic lance]

so in this case Building needs to implement handleTypeA even though it has nothing to do with it?

this handleTypeX approach also looks a bit weird, when working with OOP you expect to have this kind of thing abstracted
I can't think of many similarities between "building" and "sailing", what do they have in common?

I think the root of the issue here is mixing data with implementation
if you consider that the instances always have their data set up, what other interface methods are left?

[chrome apex]

Stupid question: If I use a dynamic rigidbody and move it with movePosition and rotate with moveRotation but set its drag and angular drag to Inf, does it basically act like a character controller? I.e. simple controller but reacts to collisions

[fast relic]

why not just use a character controller? also pretty sure move position and move rotation ignores collision

[chrome apex]

Because I need a non capsule collider unfortunately, or rather a horizontal capsule. You sure about that?

[fading spade]

building and sailing just reuses the same gui
the gui passes reference that are mapped to a catalogue

[fading spade]

well, if i use abstract class it wouldn’t need to

[naive pawn]

moveposition and moverotation do not obey collisions - they're more intended for kinematic rbs

[fading spade]

the other strat would be to pass a delegate from building / sailing to the ui manager for the scene

i think

but that sounds cursed and doesn’t really resolve the type issue

[chrome apex]

fucking hell. So it's impossible to do what I want without actual use of forces? I would need to do some raycasting or capsulecasting or whatever to determine whether I can turn around in a horizontal position?

[fading spade]

unless i keep the delegate in a dictionary
which sounds even more cursed

[naive pawn]

what is it that you want

[chrome apex]

to rotate my body with respect to collisions

impossible with char controller

[naive pawn]

you can use angularVelocity or AddTorque for that

angularVelocity would have similar logic flow/behaviour to MoveRotation, so sounds like you want that

[chrome apex]

I can't if I crank the drag and angular drag to infinity

[naive pawn]

so why have them at infinity

you can set angularVelocity to 0 yourself if you want it to stop rotating at some point

[chrome apex]

because whenever I try a rigidbody, it always spins and bounces uncontrollably

[naive pawn]

that seems like a separate issue

make sure you have constraints where appropriate, and make sure you aren't touching transform which would cause desyncs and unpredictable behaviour

also make sure your values aren't wildly high - might happen if you put in deltaTime where it's not supposed to go, for example

[chrome apex]

all I know is that whenever I've tried a rigidbody for motion, the results are a casino simulator as to what happens

[naive pawn]

rigidbodies work for a lot of cases, so im inclined to believe it's something to do with your setup rather than an inherent issue of rbs

make sure you aren't doing AddX/MoveX in Update, as well

[runic lance]

this doesn't really change the fact that you'll be providing an empty implementation, at best
to me it looks like you're trying to implement the wrong abstraction

[fading spade]

yeah that seems off

[runic lance]

since you mentioned MVC before, try having a look at this: https://www.jacksondunstan.com/articles/3092

[chrome apex]

I am not convinced that's the case. My character crawls and turns in tight tunnels where he barely fits. Basically it's constant collisions. I'm inclined to beleive that rigidbodies are too stupid to handle that

[naive pawn]

if you're turning in said tunnels, are you sure the colliders actually fit through the turn

[fading spade]

i’ll take a look, thanks

[chrome apex]

it would be good if they didn't fit, that would work as desired. However, I just bounce around and spin instead

[naive pawn]

...you expect the rigidbody to be able to turn even when it doesn't fit?

[chrome apex]

no, I expected it to stop when it can't turn, not launch me around

[naive pawn]

and what were you using to move in that instance?

(as in, what method)

[chrome apex]

when I tried? I can't remember honestly, I've tried multiple things like addForce, addVelocity, MovePosition etc

and for rotation too

currently I'm using a char controller but now I need to fix that cause it can't do what I want

[naive pawn]

so have you tried the setup ive been describing

[chrome apex]

what? I think I added the forces in fixedUpdate, isn't that what you're supposed to do?

[naive pawn]

yeah, that's correct - i'm referring more so to using velocity

to recap:

• no charactercontroller, only the dynamic rb
• normal or 0 drag
• movement using assigning to linear/angularVelocity, and setting them to 0 when you don't want to move
• appropriate rotation constraints on rb (X+Z, it sounds like?)

make sure the velocity doesn't compound as well

[chrome apex]

I actually need rotation on all axes

[naive pawn]

you want the RB to roll around too?

[chrome apex]

I can't remember what setups I tried honestly. I don't think I set velocity to 0 when not moving tho

[chrome apex]

when I want to only

[naive pawn]

have you considered like, just rolling the camera rather than the rb for that

but sure

[chrome apex]

I would need to roll the collider too

[naive pawn]

isn't it a capsule

[chrome apex]

the purpose being to twist the body if it can't fit while fully horizontal

[naive pawn]

it's radially symmetric, no?

[chrome apex]

No, I would actually make it rectangular

or however you call that in 3d

[naive pawn]

ah, mb. i mustve gotten mixed up from the character controller discussion

[chrome apex]

no, I actually meentioned a horizontal capsule but that was wrong. THat was what I was trying to get from a CC, but anyway a rectangular one would work better

[naive pawn]

i'd recommend constraining X/Z rotation for now just to reduce variables though

[chrome apex]

it would go from shoulder to shoulder, thin on the height and down to the belly or something

Wouldn't it be simpler to tell rigidbodies to fuck off? I Could detect collision while rotating but I don't really know how to do that as it would need to detect in an arc, rather than a straight line

[naive pawn]

collisions don't really care whether they're from rotation or movement

[fossil swift]

hey, is there any command that replaced "LookAt"?

LookAt(Vector3.zero);

[naive pawn]

no

it wasn't changed

[chrome apex]

wait...I didn't think about that. Ye but for example, they would care if I used transform to rotate. Then it wouldn't collide, right? Maybe I could use a trigger? hmm

[naive pawn]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Transform.LookAt.html

[naive pawn]

if I used transform to rotate
that's just out of the question if you have rigidbodies

[chrome apex]

well, hence the entire discussion

could I not instead use trigger enter and then I wouldn't care about all that stuff

[naive pawn]

i don't see how that would solve anything

[chrome apex]

How so? Turn transform. If trigger enter, stop turning. But can turn the other way (maybe I'd need to move it slightly back first)

[naive pawn]

turn transform + trigger enter just doesn't really make sense

you shouldn't touch transform at all when you have rigidbodies. that can cause physics desync

[chrome apex]

I'm talking about ditching rigibodies

[naive pawn]

then triggers wouldn't work either

dynamic rigidbodies are what drive the physics engine
no rigidbodies means no collision/trigger detection

[chrome apex]

oh, yeah, you're right. You need a rb on one of the objects, true

but still, I don't think I would have problems with transform rotation there

[dense sierra]

Hi, I'm new to unity programming. I'm trying to make a simple first person movable character, but there is an issue. For some reason, I'm not sure why, the camera only moves on the X axis and not both X and Y. But if I select another camera, It only shows the Y access. Why is that?

[keen dew]

Show how the objects are related in the hierarchy

[naive pawn]

you would

it could manifest as inconsistencies or perf issues

the transform would not be rotating, it'd be teleporting in the eyes of the physics system

no interpolatation or continuous collision detection

[chrome apex]

ok but wouldn't it be teleporting frame by frame? What you're saying is, with interpolation, it would be more precise because the next frame would figure out it had gone through after the last frame and slightly adjust it or something?

it that the gist of it?

also, what about checking for overlaps?

[naive pawn]

no, the detection would be on the fixed timestep

interpolation is for checking between steps

[chrome apex]

I see

well, that sounds like minor precision issues to me

[naive pawn]

man, what can i do to convince you that the physics system is just not meant to be working with modified transforms

[dense sierra]

I'm I missing something?

[chrome apex]

alright, so what about checking for overlaps?

[naive pawn]

all the same issues.

to be blunt, you have 2 options. you can use the existing physics system or you can rebuild your own. you can't mix them

[keen dew]

Well everything is just flat with no hierarchy there. The idea is that the camera should be a child of the player model so that when the model rotates on the Y axis the camera rotates with it

[naive pawn]

charactercontroller effectively builds its own, for example

[chrome apex]

so what you're saying is I must use physics to rotate a mesh?

[naive pawn]

not what i'm saying, no

if you're using physics for other stuff, then you have to use physics for the rotation

[dense sierra]

like this:

[keen dew]

Probably yes

[naive pawn]

you have another choice - not using rigidbodies at all and making all the physics checks yourself

[chrome apex]

ok, continue

so what if I'm not using physics for anything

[naive pawn]

see my previous message

[chrome apex]

ok but what do you mean by that? You mean checking for collisions while using a rigidbody, rather than rotating with torque, or whatever does that naturally?

[naive pawn]

could you rephrase your question? not sure what situation you're referring to

[chrome apex]

when you say I have to do physics checks, you said I essentially need to use a rigidbody and rotate in the appropriate way (not with transform).

Are you going back to saying I need to use physics and torque for rotation, or just that I can detect collisions and rotate in another way, but still with a rigidbody?

[naive pawn]

ah, no, the physics checks im referring to would be stuff like overlap and cast checks

[chrome apex]

yeah, excellent, I was steering towards that

[naive pawn]

you can do all those yourself with no rigidbodies, or you can let the existing engine handle it for you

[chrome apex]

but you said here I can't do reliable cast checking if I'm using overlaps

with transform

[naive pawn]

no? that was referring to using the physics engine combined with a rotating transform

[chrome apex]

that's not what I meant in that case

I meant rotating via transform and checking for overlaps

[naive pawn]

but without involvement of the physics engine, you'll just have to do the interpolation yourself

[naive pawn]

ah, thought you were still talking about using triggers in that case

[chrome apex]

so, if I'm a big hater of physics. Let's say I slap on a kinematic rb and a collider on my char. Then I check for overlaps only while moving or rotating, that seems legit?

[dense sierra]

Its working now, thanks 🙂

[naive pawn]

how would you check for overlaps exactly?

(so far it sounds legit, just that it's not quite a complete picture without that detail)

[chrome apex]

overlap the shape of my collider at the exact point of my collider. If it overlaps with the terrain collider, I stop moving or rotating.

To go back or rotate the other way, I'm not quite sure if I would need to bring it back first to stop it from overlapping

but that's essentially the plan

[naive pawn]

you'd also have to snap it back to depenetrate

[chrome apex]

yeah, that's what I'm saying

[naive pawn]

make sure to consider cases where you'd phase through collision

[chrome apex]

what do you mean

[naive pawn]

basically what continuous detection is

give me a bit to get back on pc to draw it

[chrome apex]

if you're referring to the fast bullet going through something at a really high speed problem, that should be irrelevant in my case. At least that's the only thing I could think you're referring to

[naive pawn]

basically that, but also consider it with rotation and corners

[chrome apex]

imo, I don't need such precision

it's a first person game

wouldn't be visible anyway

I consider it a non-issue

[naive pawn]

it wouldn't be about precision

it'd be about consistency regarding timing

[chrome apex]

I don't quite follow but that's ok for now

also

at first, I considered keeping the char controller for motion and using that special collider for collision checks, but would it then make sense to ditch the char controller now?

like, does it do me any good?

[naive pawn]

they'll be fighting for control of the transform. use one or the other

well, the charactercontroller and the rb previously mentioned, not the collider

charactercontroller itself is already a collider, so you could consider using that. not sure it can be horizontal though

[chrome apex]

it can't be and that's a problem

also it can't turn, which is a problem for me

[naive pawn]

probably not the right choice then

[chrome apex]

I think it has a nice feature where you go diagonally if you hit a wall at an angle which would be nice, but that couldn't happen anyway with my new rectangular collider

so I could just code that or something

it would be perfect if rigidbodies would work for me but I already went through the trouble of simulating drag and inertia with the speed of movement for my char controller so best not reopen that can of worms

[naive pawn]

i'm referring to cases like this. if you don't have continuous detection, then whether or not you can phase through the corner would be up to timing and the time step

[naive pawn]

don't fall for the sunk cost fallacy on this one lol

[chrome apex]

I don't know...isn't it always best not to use a rigibody when you can do that?

[naive pawn]

what? no definitely not

[chrome apex]

I meant physics specifically

dynamic rigidbody

[naive pawn]

yeah that doesn't change what i said at all

why reinvent the wheel

[chrome apex]

precisely because you can't control rigidbodies how you want. I heard it's basically very bad practice to use them in car games, even though it might seem natural to use them

[naive pawn]

sometimes you need something more specific that the physics engine doesn't cover or handle well. in that case you would consider making your own physics engine built with the specific task in mind

maybe this is one of those cases, but honestly with the context you've given it doesn't seem like that to me

[chrome apex]

it shouldn't. It's probably a perfect case for a rigibody in theory, but in practice I want get it to work so idk

[naive pawn]

because you can't control rigidbodies how you want
you can though. their entire API revolves around that

[chrome apex]

I mean you can if you go through the effort of stopping every force and controlling everything when you need when you want that

but at that point why use it?

[naive pawn]

you can prevent things from giving forces

you can prevent things from receiving forces from certain things

if you want to control every aspect, then maybe you don't actually want physics - and that's fine, you don't need to use an RB for everything

but RBs definitely aren't useless

if they were, they wouldn't be in the engine

[chrome apex]

so do you agree they are bad practice in racing games?

[naive pawn]

depends on the kind of racing. for something akin to mariokart, yeah probably - the physics there aren't very realistic, you'd want more customization

for something hyper-realistic, like racing sims, there's a lot of complexity that would probably benefit from a dedicated system. like, it could work with RBs, but it'd be better with something built with racing in mind

for something like trackmania? RBs would probably be fine.

[scarlet pasture]

i also maked sure that the Ground Collider is flat, i mean i also useing a "BoxCollider2D" so its should be in a straight line

hey, i use this map currently in my Game. i know that this game maybe took some years so i just wantet do make a Collider2D for every Ground, Wall etc. i know that i can use a Tilemap Collider but i actually want to set every ground by my self for hidden roomst etc etc.. but curently i use a Ground better said a Empty GameObjct with a Collider2D, i stretched it around the whole ground but the Player is falling a liitle bit. I cant really explain what i mean because of my Englisch Skills. For that reason i want to share a Video =>

[naive pawn]

well, check in that location if there's a gap in the collider or something

[scarlet pasture]

okay i will do it, but tbh the collider is still around the whole ground: Hers is also a picture.

[chrome apex]

@naive pawn so I tried checking overlaps for rotation. It kinda works, the only problem being I get jittering when I keep trying to rotate to an unrotateable position.

What I'm doing to saving the rotation of the player every frame, and when an overlap happens, I start checking when there's NO overlap but I also return the player's orientation to the last saved one before the overlap.

[naive pawn]

perhaps check the y position if it's actually falling or if it's an animator issue

[hot wadi]

I swear Discord is taking forever to load a few seconds video

[scarlet pasture]

i hope that the Players Code dont make this problem, i use my costum Gravity and im also Apllying Gravity when the Player is not on "Grounded" better said i apply Gravity when the Raycast is not hitting the Ground

[scarlet pasture]

real

there is a Website for postiing Videos, they give u a link that u can share here, its 10000 faster than discord

[naive pawn]

so you're snapping it to a position that's still significantly outside of the collision? it's just rotating a bit more to get to the overlap point then, no?
perhaps log the values you're setting the rotation to

[scarlet pasture]

i actually found the Problem of the Colliders

lets gooo

[chrome apex]

Well yeah, I guess that's it. It's far enough from the overlap I guess that you notice when you keep turning.

Maybe I should actually only rotate if there hasn't been an overlap in the next frame. That would fix that

Only, it would have a slight delay

So, actually trying to prevent it from overlapping in the first place

[earnest meteor]

I NEED HELP _WITH MY VR

how do i view my game in vr

[fickle plume]

@earnest meteor This is a code channel, if you need help with code post your problem

[mint imp]

How might i use a custom Polygon collider 2D as the "area" a particle system uses to spawn particles from?
Im dynamically creating shapes with a line renderer, using those points i create a Polygon collider 2d. That i want particles to spawn in

[scarlet pasture]

hey where can i ask my 2d Animation Prblems, the Enemys Animation sudenly change his Position on a few Frames, What channel should i use?

[frail hawk]

#🏃┃animation

[fallen mountain]

hi can anyone help me becouse my joystick doesnt work anymore (i dont think that its an code issue) https://paste.mod.gg/zfjheucskbbi/0

[scarlet pasture]

Thanks u!

[frail hawk]

any errors or warnings in the console?

[fallen mountain]

no

[chrome apex]

is Collider.cast as difficult for rotation as is sounds?

[frail hawk]

what about the movement, can you see some proper values in the console?

[wintry quarry]

what do you mean?

[fallen mountain]

the player returns 0 if i debug it and i tryed using WASD for the movment but it doesnt work too

[chrome apex]

I mean, it goes in a straight line for movement, seems easy. But to prevent rotational clipping, it needs some proper math I'm guessing

[wintry quarry]

Can you explain what you mean by rotational clipping?

[chrome apex]

I mean to stop collision while rotating, i.e. not clip through the wall

[wintry quarry]

if you want to simulate it rotating while moving yeah you can't do that with a Collider.cast

[hot wadi]

Are u talking about Collider2D? 3D colliders don't have cast. There is Raycast. They are different

[wintry quarry]

you'd have to do something like make a secondary physics scene and simulate it moving and rotating in there for however many timesteps you need

[wintry quarry]

I presume yes they mean 2D.

[chrome apex]

allegedly, it's been added from unity 2019 onward for 3d. But I couldn't find definitive info so I may be wrong

[wintry quarry]

It has not - but 3D has always had Rigidbody.SweepTest

[chrome apex]

sigh, I guess I can try going back to rigidbody motion

[chrome apex]

and how does that work?

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.2/Documentation/ScriptReference/Rigidbody.SweepTest.html

[languid pagoda]

My unity started randomly doing something weird, if I am coding and save the file it will randomly pull unity as a the focused window until its doen rebuilding the script.

Also since this started happening my unity will get stuck at reloading domain randomly, and I have to close with task manager. How can I fix this?

[mint imp]

How might one create a sprite mask from a polygon collider 2d?
Ive read so far i need to convert a sprites shape to fit the collider but ive had no luck

[rich adder]

https://discussions.unity.com/t/how-to-get-some-kind-of-spritemask-from-a-polygoncollider2d/204947 ?

[torpid spindle]

can someone teach me how to make vs code do auto filling for my code

auto suggestion thingy

[rich adder]

!vscode

[radiant void]

Visual Studio Code guide

If your IDE is not underlining errors in red or autocompleting code,
please configure it using the link below:

https://on.unity.com/vscode

[mint imp]

Yes i did come across this. It just seems way too much for what im trying to do
I downloaded it and trying to figure out how it converts a sprites shape but no luck so far

[rich adder]

not sure, wouldn't hurt if you were more specific on your particular issue / usecase.

[torpid spindle]

bless up

stupid question

sorry mate

[scarlet pasture]

stupid quastions dont exist

[rich adder]

You haven't been here long enough

they do

[scarlet pasture]

thorfinn type shit

[rich adder]

but yeah no reason to steer this into offtopic

[tender mirage]

What’s an gameobject.

Just kidding

[mint imp]

So im making "clouds" for my game that are any kind of shape i can draw in editor.
I want the polygon collider 2d of these clouds to act as a sprite mask to show a particle system (Cloud visuals) ONLY within the bounds of clouds.

I have the sprite mask properly showing clouds only within a sprite i select.

but im struggling to "reshape" the sprite to match the polygon collider2d's shape.

[chrome apex]

this seems like a glorified raycast. How does that help with rotational collision checks?

[mint imp]

SO i need to either reshape a sprite to fit a polygon collider 2d's shape
Or somehow mask through a collider?

[rich adder]

so you basically want particles to stay within a shape or I misunderstood

[rich adder]

I haven't been following the convo, just replying to the last message you asked about
it is indeed a cast but shaped as the mesh

[burnt rampart]

Anyone know why my classes that inherit from an abstract class seem to be unable to get reference to a singleton,
gameCon = Gamecon.Instance works just fine in my classes that do not inherit.

Here is the abstract class and its awake method

public abstract class EnemyAI : MonoBehaviour
    {
    private ShipObject shipObject;
    private WeaponObject weaponObject;
    [SerializeField] GameCon gameCon;

    private void Awake()
    {
        shipObject = GetComponentInChildren<ShipObject>();
        weaponObject = GetComponentInChildren<WeaponObject>();
        gameCon = GameCon.Instance;
    }
}

[sour fulcrum]

private is default

serializefield just explicitly serializes (and shows in inspector as a result), doesn't mean it's public or protected

[mint imp]

I have a particle system of clouds that are traveling right uniformly across the screen.
I only want to "reveal" this particle system effect through the shapes i draw.
That way if shapes are touching, the cloud effect isnt broken.

[burnt rampart]

ik, I just serialized so I could see what was going on

[rich adder]

this is a code channel

[sour fulcrum]

private is private, inheriting classes can't touch their ancestors privates

you might want protected

[burnt rampart]

OOOOHH

[sour fulcrum]

apologies for the phrasing.. its 5am

[whole dome]

sorry

[torpid spindle]

is there anyone i can ask basic ass unity questions to lmao

[rich adder]

oh I see.. maybe use a reveal shader?

[chrome apex]

Right, I checked this and it doesn't help with rotation. So how WOULD you check for rotational collision?

[torpid spindle]

id rather talk to someone than rely on a tutorial

[rich adder]

!ask

[radiant void]

:thinking: Asking Questions

:mag: Search the internet for your question!
:book: Use the API Scripting Reference and User Manual and this troubleshooting site for commonly posted issues.
:wrench: Attempt to debug your issue.
:thought_balloon: Find an appropriate channel by reading the name and description in #🔎┃find-a-channel
:grey_question: And don't ask to ask, ask a full question illustrating with screenshots if needed.

-# For more posting guidelines, go to #🌱┃start-here

[naive pawn]

ask in the relevant channel, and don't ask to ask

[burnt rampart]

thank you! that makes sense, I'm surprised this is the first issue I've come across, still new to the inheritance thing

[sour fulcrum]

gotta find it for the first time eventually 😄

[burnt rampart]

lol true

[torpid spindle]

i would but do i rlly wanna send 15 questions to a public chat about the same project lmao

[rich adder]

I mean you should make an attempt to even debug / google things on your own first

without knowing how to self-debug / problem solve you will not go very far in development

[mint imp]

I have no experience with shaders. Would that be kind of like giving the clouds a material that acts as a mask?

[torpid spindle]

tbh im tryna figure out how to do basic basic ahh 2d movement

but theres like

500 different ways to do it online

[frail hawk]

you could open a thread

[rich adder]

spritemask but be easier but with shader you have more control, basically you can have the cloud have the material that is revealed with a shape defined by another shader that acts as a reveal for that material

[torpid spindle]

idk hwo to do that...

and its 3 am

[short gust]

some (very old/classic) architectural questions:
with heavy usage of composition - where do "normally" one put a state management logic? like, do I make "a meta component" who orchestrate on decoupled components OR do I make the components with tiny state machines inside them with some "meta state machine" enabling/disabling the components, dunno? I kinda want to try to make a composition as my core structure, but I still don't know HOW/WHERE do I put the state logic itself, not the business logic of "an action gameObject be doing", if I can phrase it like that, lol.

[torpid spindle]

and i want to like

[sour fulcrum]

then your fucked

[torpid spindle]

not do anything

urghhhh

[thorn holly]

yes there are 500 ways to make movement and it all depends on what you want your movement to look like

[rich adder]

that is why no one can give you a straight answer, because there are dozens of ways to solve a problem , you need to find one that makes sense for your game / project

[hot wadi]

Sleep and pray

[torpid spindle]

i cant believe i took ap csp and intro to comp in uni

just to not know a thing

[rich adder]

this isn't a social chatroom, if you have a specific unity code question ask it otherwise move on

[burnt rampart]

hmm I tried private protected, protected, and even public, it seems the inheritors still can't get the reference but for some reason the fields that are getting reference via GetComponentInChildren<>() are all working fine?

[sour fulcrum]

you'd need to show code

[hot wadi]

Btw its a singleton, u can just call the class directly without caching a reference

[sour fulcrum]

this is also true

[limber bolt]

Talking about movement, ill explain the situation. I'm making a restaurant game, so when you walk to a client and select a table, the client walks to the table you selected. Just like in Dead Plate. But I'm not quite sure how to move my NPCS to the table, Ive watching some videos but it seems that their case isnt exactly similar to mine. So im a little confused of what to do now. Any good advices about moving NPCs from a starting point and changing their path depending on what the player selected would be so nice

[burnt rampart]

hmm I tried that, I'm specifically trying to get access to an event in the GameCon singleton, this however gives me an "Object Reference is required for the non-static field, etc, "GameCon.TickEvent"

public class GameCon : MonoBehaviour
{
    [SerializeField] private int Ticks;
    public event EventHandler TickEvent;

    public int getTicks { 
        get{ return Ticks; } 
        private set=>Ticks=value; 
    }

    public static GameCon Instance;
}

public abstract class EnemyAI : MonoBehaviour
    {
    [SerializeField]private ShipObject shipObject;
    private WeaponObject weaponObject;
    [SerializeField] public GameCon _gameCon;

    private void Awake()
    {
        shipObject = GetComponentInChildren<ShipObject>();
        weaponObject = GetComponentInChildren<WeaponObject>();
        _gameCon = GameCon.Instance;
    }

    private void OnEnable()
    {
        GameCon.TickEvent += OnTickUp;
    }
}

[sour fulcrum]

GameCon is a monobehaviour, an instance

Instance is a static field in GameCon

(youd want GameCon.Instance.TickEvent)

[burnt rampart]

aaaahhh okay, yeah that looks like it works

sorry, been a bit since I did this stuff, my memory is half there

[rich adder]

where is Instance assigned ? this is gonna return a null ref

you generally want to access Instance of singleton in Start
since most of the times assignment is done in Awake, you wouldnt want to rely on the order of scripts to hope the accessing awake runs after

[prisma crypt]

I'm very new to this so I hope this is the right place for this. I have my player capsule set up and I set the values to my liking, but when I hit play, they reset. Like "Jump" keeps unticking, movement speed and rotation speed keep resetting to defaults. I don't know why this keeps happening.

[rich adder]

we dont know either because we have 0 information on the code or setup

[burnt rampart]

oh good to know, thank you, I'll start doing that

hmm I'm still getting a nullref using GameCon.Instance.TickEvent += OnTickUp;
no error in editor though

[rich adder]

show where you assign the Instance and where you access it

[scarlet creek]

any idea why this script isnt working correctly

using UnityEngine;

public class MouseMovementScript : MonoBehaviour
{

public float mouseSensitivity = 100f;

float xrotation = 0f;
float yrotation = 0f;

public float bottomClamp = -90f;
public float topClamp = -90f;
// Start is called once before the first execution of Update after the MonoBehaviour is created
void Start()
{
    //locking the cursor to the middle of the screen and making it invisible

    Cursor.lockState = CursorLockMode.Locked;
}

// Update is called once per frame
void Update()
{
    //getting the mouse inputs
    float mouseX = Input.GetAxis("Mouse X") * mouseSensitivity * Time.deltaTime;
    float mouseY = Input.GetAxis("Mouse Y") * mouseSensitivity * Time.deltaTime;

    // rotation around the x axis (look up and down)
    xrotation -= mouseY;

    // Clamp the rotation
    xrotation = Mathf.Clamp(xrotation, topClamp, bottomClamp);
    
     // Rotation around the y axis (look left and right)
    yrotation += mouseX;

    // Apply the rotation
    transform.localRotation = Quaternion.Euler(xrotation, yrotation, 0f);
}

}

[burnt rampart]

here, I am accessing the instance directly in OnEnable(), the object this script is on is already enabled in the scene, is it possible that OnEnable() is running too soon because of this? I can try seeing if it works if I enable it after starting

[rich adder]

this script here doesn't show assigment anywhere for Instance

[rich adder]

what exactly isn't working ?

also 👇

[radiant void]

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[rich adder]

also you do not want to multiply mouseInput with Time.deltaTime

[scarlet creek]

it just goes all over the place

[scarlet creek]

thx for the advice its my first time so im not used to all this scripting

this is what happens

[burnt rampart]

ok I tried having the object disabled and manually enabling it in the scene after starting, everything is working correctly, so yeah I'm guessing OnEnable() was just coming in before the GameCon script

thank you for the help, nav

[rich adder]

well rotating both the x and y on the playerbody would not make much sense
if you remove the x rotation on the localRotation it will probably work better but you still need to rotate the x on the CameraHolder if the goal is a FPS

[mint imp]

Im not sure how
Im stuggling to even get a sprite mask from my collider.
Considering using shader now
How might i begin to do that?

[rich adder]

probably a stencil shader / buffer

I'm sure spritemask could probably do it I jus don't know, but with shader should be as simple as doing that

[scarlet creek]

so how will i make x rotation work

[languid pagoda]

Everytime I add a script i am getting stuck at this until I end task on the editor just randomly popped up and am not sure whats causing it in the slightest unless this is a side effect of multiplayer play mode?

[rich adder]

you would reference the camera, or ideally make a parent for the camera and rotate that on its own for Up/Down look

[rich adder]

have you tried deleting the Library folder and refreshing the Cache , sometimes this works for me when unity acts weird

[languid pagoda]

deleted the library folder, how do I refresh the cache?

[rich adder]

just by deleting the folder and opening the project again will generate brand new

[languid pagoda]

oh yeah that didn't fix it any other ideas?

[rich adder]

( a blank scene will be open)

[rich adder]

depends whats causing it tbh. You'd have to narrow down

when did it start happening?

[languid pagoda]

when I started using multiplayer play mode

so I guess its because of that

[rich adder]

which version ?
I use 1.3.3 without issues in Unity 6.0.33f

[languid pagoda]

1.3.3 on 6.0.32f1

if its not because of that I wouldn't have a clue

i commented out the code I have running in ondomainreload

[rich adder]

was about to say.. start disabling stuff and see what happens

[scarlet pasture]

do i need to use two collider? for the legs? and would that not mean that tha player can do 2 times damage?

[pine cedar]

Have you checked editor logs after terminating the editor process to see if that gives any clues on what it was working on?

[pine cedar]

Base a damage event on the attack not the collision count

[rich adder]

if its a rigidbody it gets compounded into 1 collider

[pine cedar]

1 attack can hit 20 colliders in one enemy

But the attack should register if it's hit an enemy or not in it's lifecycle.

[naive pawn]

whether or not to put a collider there is kind of a question of gamedesign

[scarlet pasture]

but how do Game Devolopers mamnage to build week points than?

[pine cedar]

You'd consider collider metadata within the attack

[scarlet pasture]

no, i just aksed wrong, i mean i want two collider one and tha back that i a WeakPoint so how can i code that`?

[rich adder]

depends if you're using rigidbody or not, You can still seperate them by different layers too

[pine cedar]

"Is weak point" on one of the colliders (or first collider) hit within an object = critical hit.

[scarlet pasture]

would that be achivable if i give them seperate tags?

[rich adder]

should be able to check the tag sure

putting a component is easier

[scarlet pasture]

component?

whitch component?

[rich adder]

a component that defined it to be a Hittble point and then you can determine if its a crit zone etc.

[languid pagoda]

somehow its facepunch steamworks causing this but there is litterally no editor code in it?

[scarlet pasture]

okay so i will add 2 Colliders, but one for the weakpoint, but how can i say "Player dont hit two Collider at one time"?

[rich adder]

strange.. doesnt need to be editor code but loading the assembly somehow causing issue? maybe seperate it from the rest with asmdef ?

[scarlet pasture]

could i say? "If the Player hits the Enemy Combarrrrring , diesable his "AttackRegisterColliders" for 0.2f Seconds but enable his "Body Collider" that dont receive any Damage?

so this Enemy cant fly out of the Map.-

[languid pagoda]

Its a managed dll and a native dll in the plugins folder it should be seperated already correct?

[rich adder]

I think soo...I know streaming assets doesn't process the file at all, I think plugin does but I'm not 100% on it

[rich adder]

Not sure I understand what you're asking here

[scarlet pasture]

wait.

[languid pagoda]

I wonder if this is some kind of undefined behavior in valves native api, this started when I started using MPPM so the server calls SteamServer.Init the client calls SteamClient.Init might not be supported by the library internally and causing some sort of bug

[scarlet pasture]

AI

“If the player hits the enemy during combat, disable the enemy’s AttackRegisterColliders for 0.2 seconds, but enable its BodyCollider, which doesn’t receive any damage. This way, the enemy won’t get knocked out of the map.”

can i use that to prevent that the Player can hit boht Collider? (CritCollider) (NormalCollider)?

[rich adder]

it might be..
What I would do is make a copy of this project / commit to GIT.
Then remove PlayMode package, try using ParrelSync and test with that. If no issue then you isolated to PlayMode / steamworks not playing nice for some reason

[rich adder]

how are you hitting the enemy in the first place

[languid pagoda]

isn't mppm the same concept as parralel sync?

when I open other instances its seperate processes in task manager

[rich adder]

yes but parrelsync is a bit more mature

[languid pagoda]

ah got ya

ill give that a try now

[sour fulcrum]

it's way worse for iteration times but something i picked up from modding stuff is there's a nice third party asset called UnityExplorer that provides serialised inspectors at runtime which i've found handy for debugging my own multiplayer builds

eg.

[thorn holly]

That can work, if you want to decouple it further than keep the collider active and make the i frame system in the script by adding a check in whatever method makes the enemy take dmg when hit

[scarlet pasture]

the Player has currently 2 Fighting style. Currently he attacks with hes Rifle but not with hes Sword.

[thorn holly]

Keeping the collider active prevents future issues, such as falling off the map not registering

[rich adder]

is that using IMGUI.NET ?

[scarlet pasture]

the Sword will be added with "TriggerColliders" to do damage and the Rifle deals Damage with a RayCast

[sour fulcrum]

i think so maybe

[languid pagoda]

I hope I dont have to result in going that route. benefit of mppm was not having to build each time you want to test.

however I may use this none the less for other stuff

it looks like it could be useful

[sour fulcrum]

amazing for modding 😛

[scarlet pasture]

what is i Frame? and how do i programm that?

[sour fulcrum]

google it

[thorn holly]

I frame stands for invincibility frames, it’s basically a small amount of time where something is invincible after getting hit

[scarlet pasture]

this is literlly a dev channel for asking

[thorn holly]

So in the example you gave that would be 0.2 seconds of invincibility

[scarlet pasture]

this is exactlly what i need!

[sour fulcrum]

google before asking

[thorn holly]

Uh oh

[scarlet pasture]

okay, i will do it next time.

[tough lagoon]

Its as much work to help them as to tell them to Google

If you aren't up for it, I dont think sitting in help channels with folks trying to learn is a good idea

[sour fulcrum]

give a man a fish and he'll be fed for a day, give a beginner google and they'll be solving problems forever

[swift bane]

whenever i try to make a 3d movement i always got that error

[tough lagoon]

Again, if you aren't interested in helping people, why be here at all.

[rich adder]

!input

[radiant void]

How to Set Input

To set Active Input Handling, go to:
Project Settings > Player > Active Input Handling

• Input Manager (Old): Use the original Input settings.
• Input System Package (New): Uses the new input system package.
• Both: Use both systems.

[valid violet]

@sour fulcrum Now you are in situation that I was before 🙂

[fickle plume]

This channel does not substitute a search engine. If you find an unfamiliar concept search first, then if you still don't understand then ask questions here. Doing personal reserch yields a lot more information than a simple answer as well.

[scarlet pasture]

this is exactly what i said befor

[scarlet pasture]

look

its really not that deep

[tough lagoon]

Ok, now your on your own 😄

[thorn holly]

Wut

[swift bane]

mine is using Input System Package (New) should i switch it to both or old?

[scarlet pasture]

what??

[rich adder]

the error is telling you're using the old, switch it to both or adjust the code to new systen

[valid violet]

@sour fulcrum okay you are not in situation that I was before because I did know my point of view but you are not realize your situation

[sour fulcrum]

ok man

[swift bane]

yo that make sense does it easy to adjust the code to new system? can it be doned with just a few codes

[rich adder]

yes

using a InputActionAssetReference will pretty much make things a lot easier

[tough lagoon]

Its a lot more flexible, on the one hand, but more cumbersome to setup (if doing it from scratch)

Imho

But you should be moving to it

[rich adder]

and there are dozens of ways to use the system which may come off intimidating at first

[swift bane]

on my way thanks mister

[rich adder]

check how Unity uses this in context of Polling with movement and Jump button key

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/CharacterController.Move.html

[swift bane]

alr

[rich adder]

instead of doing

 Vector2 input = new (Input.GetAxis("Horizontal"), Input.GetAxis("Vertical") ;
Vector3 move = new Vector3(input.x, 0, input.y);```
you're doing
```cs
 Vector2 input = moveAction.action.ReadValue<Vector2>();
Vector3 move = new Vector3(input.x, 0, input.y);```

[tough lagoon]

I do think (given input is often the only way players can really interact with your game), its worth putting time into it and learning it. And it'll pay off in the long run.

[rich adder]

especially when you need to do rebinds 😭

old system was so trash for that they had dozens of assets for it

[swift bane]

yeah that makes sense i had a homie who was trying to do a 3d game fastest possible. IN the end of the day he had completely erased the entire project he maded due to having tons of errors . so thats why discipline beats motivation.

[thorn holly]

I’ll add on to that, if you run into an error fix it before you make more errors lol

[swift bane]

got it

[scarlet pasture]

i just realized somthing

it would be extremly smart to make one flip Script and use it for every enemy

a tipp for every other begginner!

[sour fulcrum]

thats a great learning step 😄

eventually you gain a bunch of learned knowledge that makes every project easier like that

[thorn holly]

even better, make a virtual common enemy class, and allow make other enemies have their own scripts that can inherit from it

this allows them to have common behaviours but also allow said behaviours to be overridden or changed by a certain enemy if necessary

[rich adder]

double edge sword of inheritance

what if you also want non-enemies do the same thing ?

[thorn holly]

common entity class

[rich adder]

Behold! Interfaces 🌟

[thorn holly]

oh wait yeah

lol

[rich adder]

I wish Unity would actually let you serialize them in the inspector by default 🙄

[wintry quarry]

As I mentioned, use a secondary physics simulation

[chrome apex]

I didn't understand that comment

[vital otter]

Is there a way to render a gradient?

[sour fulcrum]

sure

you'd have to be more specific for a more specific answer though

[vital otter]

As in, a rectangle on the screen (preferably with a variable z axis) in 2d, with a verticle gradient

[grand snow]

you need a shader to do it but it can be done easily with shader graph

[sour fulcrum]

yeah its like, two nodes(?)

[vital otter]

Time to learn shader graph then...

Any resources to help me learn it?

[grand snow]

this should do to get you started: https://learn.unity.com/tutorial/introduction-to-shader-graph
ask in #1391720450752516147 if you need help with shader stuff

[chrome apex]

I just tested on a plain cube with addForce while torquing and I'm not seeing the issues I previously described (i.e. spinning and teleporting uncontrollably).

Maybe I left of transform rotation with the mouse or something when I was testing. Hmm...

[scarlet pasture]

Hey if i use this in my Script => [ExecuteAlways] and the Script is NOT in the Scene better said my GameObject that uses This Script is disabled would that cost performacne?

[cosmic dagger]

No, only when the GameObject with the script is active in the scene . . .

[scarlet pasture]

okay thanks!

[cyan carbon]

So this channel is only for code related topics, right? sorry i tend to overthink.

[cosmic dagger]

If unsure, just read the channel description . . .

[cyan carbon]

ok

[cosmic dagger]

Be careful with using the attribute. It will impact performance if you have a lot of code, especially in Update . . .

[grand snow]

Execute always will cause all monobehaviour event message functions to be called in editor. So any instance will be affected by this (be it in a scene or prefab editor)

the old attribute ExecuteInEditMode does not work in prefab stage (what the prefab editor thing is called)

[scarlet pasture]

okay i currently using them in 2 Scripts. and im deactivaitng them if i dont use them.

[grand snow]

well it only affects you in edit mode and if its not doing much its okay

just dont over use it for no good reason

[scarlet pasture]

i use it for debug pourpuse

Hey i use this Script ```using UnityEngine;

#if UNITY_EDITOR
using UnityEditor;
#endif

[ExecuteAlways]
public class BaseGroundCheck : MonoBehaviour
{
[Header("Ground Check Settings")]
[SerializeField] private bool useGrounded = true;
[SerializeField] private Transform RayCastOrigin;
[SerializeField] private LayerMask GroundLayer;
[SerializeField] private float GroundCheckDistance = 0.3f;
private bool isGrounded;

[Header("Gizmo Settings")]
[SerializeField] private bool useGizmos = true;

void Update()
{
    isGroundedCheck();
}

private void isGroundedCheck()
{
    if (!useGrounded || !RayCastOrigin) return;

    RaycastHit2D hit = Physics2D.Raycast(RayCastOrigin.position, Vector2.down, GroundCheckDistance, GroundLayer);

    isGrounded = hit.collider != null;
}

private void OnDrawGizmos()
{
    if (!useGizmos || !RayCastOrigin) return;

    Gizmos.color = isGrounded ? Color.green : Color.red;
    Vector3 start = RayCastOrigin.position;
    Vector3 end = start + Vector3.down * GroundCheckDistance;
    Gizmos.DrawLine(start, end);
}

private void OnValidate()
{

#if UNITY_EDITOR
SceneView.RepaintAll();
#endif
}
}

i want that the Frog a Boss in my Game should see from this Script if he is Grounded.

the Problem is or better said i think in the future will be that maybe another Enemy that use this same Script can manipulate tha "isGrounded" Check for the Boss

i want to know, how can i read for every GameObject the right "isGrounded Bool"

i needed because i want to Impement the Jump Code for my Boss, here is also a Script =>

!Code

[radiant void]

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[scarlet pasture]

https://paste.mod.gg/coudltgjonrd/0

[wintry quarry]

it's a typical way to handle things like trajectory calculations. https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.2/Documentation/Manual/physics-multi-scene.html

One of the prime use cases

[scarlet pasture]

I also want to Implement the Logic, i learn that i can find the Direction from the Player to the enemy, i do that and i save the value inside of a Vector2

but for this case i saw a Syntax in Unity Docs but i dont now how to convert a Vector in a float, in Unity Forum i saw that doesnt work beacuse Vectors took more Data than a float (X, Y, Z) etc. i thought about Filtering it down to a float, because for this Case i only need to know tha X Achses, but i dont find the Syntax. Can sombody help me also there?

[rich adder]

if you want only X then access just x

[scarlet pasture]

it currently testing

would that work?

[rich adder]

no idea, not even sure what you're going for lol

[scarlet pasture]

HAHAH, i want that the Boss Jump at the Player

im just try somthing, im also dont know that this work tbh

[scarlet pasture]

i hope this work, for me this makes sinn but maybe this is a problem

Chis theacthed me this

this is why i wanted to filter it down to a X Value

but maybe i dont even need to filter it down

[vital otter]

Couldnt use Go.x?

[rain solar]

how hard would it be to train an AI agent to run a complex enemy entity?

[scarlet pasture]

it didnt work, i found a other way but this also dont work i actuially dont know why

but this also dont work, i dont know why

[fast relic]

sounds unnecessary and expensive to run to me

[scarlet pasture]

but i have a idea, i think the could be a problem from .normalized

its reduce my upwardforce again

i will try it

[rain solar]

how unnecessary? i dont think any games have enemies without a small subset of moves

[fast relic]

normalizing sets its length to 1

[scarlet pasture]

YEAH

this is what i thinked

i do this everytime

[fast relic]

yeah, but training an ai for that seems pretty pointless

[rain solar]

why

[scarlet pasture]

Arc Ryders have that

[eternal needle]

theres ml agents, which i think #1202574086115557446 is the forum for. this really cant be answered though. It all depends on your ability

[scarlet pasture]

they are extremly smart

[eternal needle]

it is unneccessary for the vast majority of games

[fast relic]

it's costly and probably won't produce better results than manually coded enemies

[scarlet pasture]

my Code finally worked

Thanks Cookie

[maiden crest]

can someone help me with a problem i have been having for over 10 hours now and its driving me crazy, i am new to coding and unity but this help would really make my day, am i in the right place for support?

[scarlet pasture]

yeah

here is Coding begginer

im also new but im readdy to TRY to help u

[maiden crest]

You can see in the clip i am trying to get my character to change in the creator section, but I have no idea what I did wrong to break this as I had it working earlier but I just can't figure it out 🙁
https://gyazo.com/729a94156fb4b875884c4f169ff607ae

[eternal needle]

!ask

[radiant void]

:thinking: Asking Questions

:mag: Search the internet for your question!
:book: Use the API Scripting Reference and User Manual and this troubleshooting site for commonly posted issues.
:wrench: Attempt to debug your issue.
:thought_balloon: Find an appropriate channel by reading the name and description in #🔎┃find-a-channel
:grey_question: And don't ask to ask, ask a full question illustrating with screenshots if needed.

-# For more posting guidelines, go to #🌱┃start-here

[eternal needle]

you need to paste relevant code if you expect help with the code

[fast relic]

we also have no idea what you did wrong if you don't show the code

[maiden crest]

it was a free package that came with code etc, and because of my issue I asked chat gpt for the fix and it was giving me code but didn't fix my problem, is there a way i can show someone?

[fast relic]

!code

[radiant void]

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[maiden crest]

so i just paste in my cs code and it will tell me where I went wrong?

[fast relic]

what's the "it" you're referring to?

[maiden crest]

sorry i am very tired i was supposed to say "in"

[fast relic]

what about the other it

what's supposed to tell you where you went wrong?

[maiden crest]

what is this !code you sent me what do i have to do

i am very new to this

[scarlet pasture]

past u code inside, click in top left on save

[fast relic]

it's just showing how to send code

[scarlet pasture]

copy the URL and post it here

[fast relic]

it's not some magic that will fix the problem for you, it's just a way of sending code to make it easier to read

[scarlet pasture]

with 3 of this => ´´´

[maiden crest]

i have 8 cs files

to go through then

[scarlet pasture]

DAYUMN

[maiden crest]

yes lol

this is why my head hurts

[scarlet pasture]

bro u are a pro

[maiden crest]

10 hours trying to fix something that would take a real pro 2 seconds lol

[scarlet pasture]

i wish i can help u but im goofy at coding

[maiden crest]

is there a way i can screenshare might be easier?

[fast relic]

just because someone has a bunch of scripts doesn't mean the scripts are good 😛

[scarlet pasture]

DAYUMN

[rich adder]

true

[scarlet pasture]

Mr woz u allowing that he is talking with u like this?

[fast relic]

-# i'm talking from experience

[rich adder]

taking a break from the problem and let the mind do its thing also helps

[maiden crest]

it doesn't bother me I have only been doing this for 1 week

so yes they are probably right

[scarlet pasture]

thorfinn type shit like always

[fast relic]

taking breaks definitely does help a lot yeah

[maiden crest]

I can't settle till this is done, only because I had it working this morning

and i just can't figure it out

[rich adder]

thats even more reason to take a break.. it happens.
i had same thing happen, i come to the problem next day and solve in 2 mins..

mind needs time to reset a bit

subconscious still works on the problem

[maiden crest]

i wasn't exactly doing code I was just changing the ui asset I had etc and maybe I deleted something by accident, i really do not know. I took many break today 🙁

i would screenshare to show someone who has experience if no 1 is busy for a few minutes

[eternal needle]

thats not how this server works. you should be able to properly form a question if you expect help

all you've shown is a video of something "not working". no one here can provide help without more information

[maiden crest]

that is why i mentioned about screensharing. But it's ok.

I thought this was a discord to help people, but I guess not.

[eternal needle]

🤷‍♂️ it is, scroll up and you can see people getting helped for years. if you cannot form a proper question, what help can anyone offer you?

if you aren't sure what code is relevant to your issue, thats something you need to figure out first then

[valid violet]

@maiden crest you don't know what you do to get what you get so you here to figure what did you do to get what you get, whould you be able to help somebody with such issue?

[maiden crest]

thanks for nothing

[umbral hound]

Hey guys, what's up with my code? My timer is not incrementing normally. For context, I'm using the new input system and I set up a positive/negative binding to change my camera, so < is -1f and > is 1f, but Idk I logged my timer, it isn't really incrementing. Just kinda fluctuating

using System;
using UnityEngine;

public class RotateCamera : MonoBehaviour
{
    private bool m_IsRotating;
    public float m_MoveTime = 1f;

    private void Awake()
    {
        Application.targetFrameRate = 60;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        // We set m_IsRotating to true when we press the button
        if (PlayerInput.Instance.Camera())
            m_IsRotating = true;
        if (m_IsRotating)
        {
            // We're rotating
            // Assign a timer and reset it to zero
            float timer = 0f;
            if (timer < m_MoveTime)
            {
                // Increment the timer
                timer += Time.deltaTime;
                transform.rotation = Quaternion.Slerp(transform.rotation, Quaternion.Euler(0f, 90f, 0f), timer / Time.deltaTime);
            }
            else
            {
                timer = 0f;
                m_IsRotating = false;
            }
        }
    }
}

[naive pawn]

@maiden crest one of the goals of community support servers like this is to facility asynchronous help - one person can post a question, and someone can answer some indefinite time later
VCs or screensharing kinda go against that, hence why a vast majority or servers like this don't use VCs for support

we also can't help without necessary info/context though. it's kinda on you to figure out what exactly is the thing you need help with

[naive pawn]

you're setting it to 0 every loop

[umbral hound]

I'm wanting this to act like a camera rotator. You press the positive button, it rotates 90 degrees, you press it again, it adds 90 degrees, same thing with the negative binding but it goes in reverse

[naive pawn]

timer / deltaTime is also almost certainly not correct

oh it's wronglerp too

[umbral hound]

Okay, so do I just pass in the timer to Quaternion.slerp?

Oh

[naive pawn]

consider using one of the proper smoothing methods, though i don't remember if quaternions have that. ill have to check

[umbral hound]

it worked, but it doesn't work if I press it again

I removed Time.deltaTime from float t and just used timer

[naive pawn]

ok yeah quaternions don't, though there is Mathf.SmoothDampAngle

[umbral hound]

No it does

[naive pawn]

@umbral hound this is your main issue

[umbral hound]

I changed it to this and it works

Yeah I fixed that

using System;
using UnityEngine;

public class RotateCamera : MonoBehaviour
{
    private bool m_IsRotating;
    public float m_MoveTime = 1f;
    private float timer;

    private void Awake()
    {
        Application.targetFrameRate = 60;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        // We set m_IsRotating to true when we press the button
        if (PlayerInput.Instance.Camera())
            m_IsRotating = true;
        if (m_IsRotating)
        {
            // We're rotating
            if (timer < m_MoveTime)
            {
                // Increment the timer
                timer += Time.deltaTime;
                transform.rotation = Quaternion.Slerp(transform.rotation, Quaternion.Euler(0f, 90f, 0f), timer);
            }
            else
            {
                timer = 0f;
                m_IsRotating = false;
            }
        }
    }
}

[naive pawn]

alright, just keep in mind that that's wrong lerp

[umbral hound]

but it works?????

[naive pawn]

https://unity.huh.how/lerp/wrong-lerp

[naive pawn]

i didn't say it doesn't

oh god it isn't even wronglerp too

new pattern 😬

i would advise not inventing these new patterns

you basically have an accelerating wronglerp

it... reaches the target though, lmao

[umbral hound]

Okay

using System;
using UnityEngine;

public class RotateCamera : MonoBehaviour
{
    private bool m_IsRotating;
    public float m_MoveTime = 1f;
    private float timer;

    private void Awake()
    {
        Application.targetFrameRate = 60;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        // We set m_IsRotating to true when we press the button
        if (PlayerInput.Instance.Camera())
            m_IsRotating = true;
        if (m_IsRotating)
        {
            // We're rotating
            if (timer < m_MoveTime)
            {
                // Increment the timer
                timer += Time.deltaTime;
                Quaternion rotation = transform.rotation;
                rotation.y = Mathf.Lerp(rotation.y, 90f, timer);
                transform.rotation = rotation;
            }
            else
            {
                timer = 0f;
                m_IsRotating = false;
            }
        }
    }
}

Let's hope this works

[rich adder]

timer/duration
prob

[naive pawn]

that's still the new wronglerp pattern, and you're accessing a component of a quaternion there and making it non-normalized

that's definitely wrong

[umbral hound]

Okay well I went to the link you gave me and it said used Mathf.lerp

What lerp do you want me to use?

[rich adder]

https://unity.huh.how/lerp/coroutines

[naive pawn]

wronglerp is not about the method used, it's about the parameters you give

[umbral hound]

ohhhhhh

So Slerp wasn't the problem

[naive pawn]

yeah

Slerp is a Lerp that follows a different path
it still has the logic of a Lerp

[umbral hound]

Okay is this right?

using System;
using UnityEngine;

public class RotateCamera : MonoBehaviour
{
    private bool m_IsRotating;
    public float m_MoveTime = 1f;
    private float timer;

    private void Awake()
    {
        Application.targetFrameRate = 60;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        // We set m_IsRotating to true when we press the button
        if (PlayerInput.Instance.Camera())
            m_IsRotating = true;
        if (m_IsRotating)
        {
            // We're rotating
            if (timer < m_MoveTime)
            {
                // Increment the timer
                timer += Time.deltaTime;
                transform.rotation = Quaternion.Slerp(transform.rotation, Quaternion.Euler(0f, 90f, 0f), timer / m_MoveTime);
            }
            else
            {
                timer = 0f;
                m_IsRotating = false;
            }
        }
    }
}

One issue is that it doesn't rotate 90 degrees again when I press the button again

[rich adder]

arent you telling it to go to the same rotation ?

you probably want currentRot * Euler(0,0,90)

as target

[umbral hound]

So I make a variable that keeps the current rotation?

[rich adder]

you'd need to cache it so it doesn't always keep going 90

I think this is probably why doing it with a coroutine is easier

you see the coroutine example caches those before the while loop every frame

[umbral hound]

Okay, I got it thank you so much

it doesn't go the opposite way with the negative binding, I wonder why

[rich adder]

what you mean with "with the negative binding"

[rich adder]

are you not using a binding ? I think thats easier for WASD

[umbral hound]

This isn't WASD

[naive pawn]

this is still a weird version of wrong lerp

[umbral hound]

This is a bool for changing my camera angle

[rich adder]

same thing

[umbral hound]

Then just tell me what I need to do

please

[naive pawn]

i'd probably go with smoothdampangle to allow consecutive changes before the previous one is done

[umbral hound]

Let me tell you something, I have a learning disability, I can't intepret social cues well.

So sorry if I feel a little annoyed

[naive pawn]

do you understand what lerp/wronglerp are, actually

[umbral hound]

No idea

I mean

[naive pawn]

i feel like you're kinda missing the point of what wronglerp is

[umbral hound]

I know what a lerp is, it transitions A to B

[naive pawn]

the intended, "correct" use of lerp is along the lines of y = lerp(a, b, t) where a and b don't change and t increases

the common wronglerp pattern is where a does change - a = lerp(a, b, dt) where dt is deltaTime. that gives smoothing but mathematically doesn't make sense, and it's framerate dependant

what you have now is like, somewhere in between, a = lerp(a, b, t)

[umbral hound]

So I just need Time.deltaTime in place of dt

[naive pawn]

that would be wronglerp, it'd at least be following a known pattern, sure

[rich adder]

the last one they sent was fine

[naive pawn]

but i mean, it's called wronglerp for a reason - it has its issues

[naive pawn]

it was still the a = lerp(a, ...) pattern

[rich adder]

they did
timer += TIme.deltaTime
instead of
common mistake of timer * DeltaTime

[naive pawn]

im not saying it doesn't work, to be clear - im just saying it's an "incorrect" use that can lead to inconsistent results

[rich adder]

adding the timer/duration give it correct t

[naive pawn]

that doesn't change the reassigning part though, does it

[rich adder]

oh like the startPoint ?

[naive pawn]

yeah

[rich adder]

I think the target is the one that should be careful changing it

[naive pawn]

also true, would cause spikes in speed

and weird behavior regarding timer

im not convinced this is framerate independent though

[rich adder]

I usually use IEnumerator though so I do it correct with caching it.
but I have seen it used in Update and a long as t was timer/duration & timer+=delta instead of timer * delta

I think doing timer * delta is what keeps with that vague arbitrary constant

[swift crag]

multiplying an increasing time value by deltaTime would not make any sense, yes

There are two common ways that people use the lerp function:

• Fixed start and end points with an increasing t argument
• Variable start and end points with a constant t argument
  • This is the 'wrong lerp' that was described above

[umbral hound]

Okay let me ask this. How do I turn these into floats? Like yeah this action is a bool, but how do I make it so the negative one is -1 and the positive is 1?

[swift crag]

can you show the entire input action window with Camera selected?

[rich adder]

You can do action type Value but much easier to just use a 2D composite

[swift crag]

Change the Action Type to "Value".

[naive pawn]

yeah it's definitely framerate dependant @rich adder

[rich adder]

which one?

[naive pawn]

a = lerp(a, b, t)

with t as a normalized value increasing over time (as in the normal lerp)

[swift crag]

indeed: that cannot possibly be framerate-independent (and also does not have a very clear meaning)

[swift crag]

If you just need a single number (kind of like a scroll wheel), you will want the Control Type to be "Float"

This input action will produce values like 1, 0, and -1

[naive pawn]

i'd recommend this then for consistency

[naive pawn]

this also smoothly handles changing targets