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[vital vault]

the thing is i want to check if player has collisions with anything, and if i will just raycast towards object on the map it will be wrong like 99% of the time

because bap has some... curved thingies

[rough granite]

bap? curved thingies?

[vital vault]

map

typo sorry

and lemme send screenshot

[rough granite]

if you are raycasting from the rigidbody directly to the collision why would something be in it's path?

[vital vault]

like so

because i would prob raycast from player feet towards object

[rough granite]

use a layer mask

[vital vault]

for what

i cant just "remove" it

[rough granite]

huh?

[vital vault]

i need slopes like that

and if i will make it incollideable it will be wrong

[rough granite]

huh?

[smoky ruin]

[vital vault]

please explain

[rough granite]

no i need you to im lost on what you are getting at

also it explains here https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Physics.Raycast.html

[vital vault]

i showed a slope on the map

lemme show in editor

even worse

i made a map 1 obj file

[rough granite]

i've got no clue at what i am meant to be looking at

[vital vault]

on the left is the slope i showed you

on the right its origin

so in that case i wont be able to get its normal via raycast

[rough granite]

if you are trying to get the normal of something that is expected to always be below you why not just send the raycast down?

[vital vault]

because i need to get collisions

i dont except for it to be below

[rough granite]

nothing is stopping you from getting collisions what

[vital vault]

how do i get them then

[rough granite]

you mentioned this is to be from the feet, and you mentioned slopes so why would the raycast go any other way but down?

[rough granite]

with OnCollisionEnter

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Rigidbody.OnCollisionEnter.html

[vital vault]

again...

i need its normal

[rough granite]

right you get that with the fucking raycast

or this, not that i would recommend this way since it's based off the first contact which could be off
ContactPoint contact = collision.contacts[0];

    // Rotate the object so that the y-axis faces along the normal of the surface
    Quaternion rot = Quaternion.FromToRotation(Vector3.up, contact.normal);

which is shown in that link i sent, read.

[vital vault]

oh fuck im so dumb lmao

srry

but one more question: how to check collision in update

[rough granite]

you dont

unless you make a instance variable but then even after you aren't touching the object it'll still be set as that collision

[vital vault]

why

[rough granite]

cause OnCollisionEnter is called when a collision is detected it has no relation to Update();

[vital vault]

how can i limit those collisiosns to one

[rough granite]

you dont what?

[vital vault]

otherwise there will be some bugs when 2 objects touch player at the same time

[rough granite]

this feels like the https://xyproblem.info/ where you are omitting info

[vital vault]

okay

i want to make playercontroller like in https://github.com/vectozavr/shooter, and it has jumps like that: it checks if player has collisions

[vital vault]

And if it has, and space is pressed, it adds vertical velocity that is calculated by multiplying jump force on dot product of collision normal and vector pointing up

But if it equals zero, it will do the same equation but instead of dot product it will put deltatime

So that results in a really funny controller that allows you to climb, slopeboost, etc

And also those features were a result of a bug

[vital vault]

Was that enough explaination?

[rocky canyon]

i would think that odds are u wouldnt get two OnCollisions at the exact same frame..

soo maybe use like a cooldown timer after that first collision to not the code to run again for X amount of seconds or something

also "states" come to mind.. if ur in this state allow this.. if ur in that state dont allow this.. etc

[vital vault]

The thing is i need to check for collisions every frame

Thats why

And i asked because you can stand on the floor, bump into corner and get even 3 collisions

[toxic crypt]

is there any way to delete all the players in unity cloud the easy way?

[rich adder]

not at the moment

I have a small client to facilitate such things, if you're still interested I can send it to you (when its done)

kinda sad that after many posts I made on forums the current web interface is pretty underwhelming with missing features requested long ago

[toxic crypt]

can you send me code ? I'll add it to my game's admin panel

or api

oh nice found it
DeleteAccountAsync()

[rocky canyon]

checkin for collisions every single update frame would be hella expensive
thats y collisions/physics happen in fixedupdate (which is a slower but fixed frame)
physics can be accurate b/c of it having that fixed timestep..

you could change the physics step in the settings to match the Update() if you also locked your framerate.. but thats just silly
so now im also assumin this is an x/y problem and what u think u should have happen doesn't actually work that way.. and(or) theres a more simple standard solution to ur problem

i also misunderstood what u were asking originally mb

[rich adder]

yeah just iterate basically

[smoky ruin]

I found out why the speed is being reduced

[vital vault]

There is an issue... I have 180hz monitor, so physics locked to 60 tps is really god-awful

[smoky ruin]

because of lerp

I didn't really understand why, but I know it's because of this

[rich adder]

its probably used incorrectly

[vital vault]

I remember that in gmod (tickrate is 64 by default), if i make a box, and throw smth in, it will act weridly, because physics is delayed by 3 frames at worst

And if that delay would happen on jumps many frustration would appear

[sturdy vigil]

My first mesh 😛

I dont really know why the texture dont fit all the mesh, the image is only the apple :c

[left sail]

Hi, I'm trying to make sure that my wheels have a rotation but nothing did, the front vehicle backs up etc but the visual physics doesn't work

[white girder]

And what is car controller doing

[left sail]

The code?

[white girder]

Yeah hard to tell whats going on from those pictures

[sturdy vigil]

Now my mesh and texture are working 👏👏

[naive pawn]

https://screenshot.help

[cosmic grotto]

Hi I am I right in thinking with cinemachine i do not need to attached a script to the main camera. Could I ask with cinemachine how do I fine out what the issue is or can I add script to the cinemachine. I have checked and I am following the correct target because the cinemachine rotates and looks where the object is going but does not follow it.

[eternal needle]

theres a lot of different settings and camera options, you would just need to go through the docs or tutorials to find out how to use it properly. theres also #🎥┃cinemachine

[wet meteor]

i cant find a way to make an rocket launcher does someone know how?

[low goblet]

is there any other way to prevent

No measure function set in this node's config
UnityEditor.EditorApplication:Internal_CallUpdateFunctions ()

spam in 6000.2 besides restarting the editor?

[rich adder]

this is a poor question, ask about what issues you had instead

[wet meteor]

my issues were that when i put my gun.cs on my rocketlauncher the game didnt work anymore

now i lost all the codes due to a mistake lol

[low goblet]

version control 🤦

[wet meteor]

version control?

[rich adder]

most likely because you had a bunch of errors

[wet meteor]

i had 0 errors when i checked

maybe it was a bug or sm

im just gonna try an other way of making it

[low goblet]

git, cvs, etc

[wet meteor]

ohh ye

[thorny void]

!code

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[left sail]

is here

[naive pawn]

see below
!code

[eternal falcon]

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[left sail]

what ??

[celest pond]

can anyone help me please: What is wrong with this (its the newest Unity Version)

private IEnumerator DarknessEvent()
{
Light[] sceneLights = FindObjectsByType<Light>();
float duration = 10f;
float elapsed = 0f;

 foreach (var light in sceneLights)
     light.intensity = 0f;

 while (elapsed < duration)
 {
     float randomTime = Random.Range(0.1f, 0.5f);
     yield return new WaitForSeconds(randomTime);
     if (sceneLights.Length > 0)
     {
         Light l = sceneLights[Random.Range(0, sceneLights.Length)];
         float originalIntensity = l.intensity;
         l.intensity = 1.5f;
         yield return new WaitForSeconds(0.1f);
         l.intensity = 0f;
     }

     elapsed += randomTime;
 }

}

[sour fulcrum]

whats wrong with it

[celest pond]

It cant find the lights

[grand snow]

use a serialized list instead?

[sour fulcrum]

what does that mean

[celest pond]

Wait, I am stupid, they are 2d lights

[grand snow]

Ha well good you realised

use a serialized list/array if you like performance

[celest pond]

I will, thanks

[naive pawn]

post your code appropriately as the bot says

[left sail]

https://paste.mod.gg/moosmyxpzbnm/0 this ?

[naive pawn]

so what was the issue again?

[hollow spruce]

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using UnityEngine.SceneManagement;

public class PlayerMovement : MonoBehaviour
{
    public float moveSpeed = 5f;
    public float jumpForce = 10f;
    public bool canJump = false;
    public bool canClimb = false;
    private Vector2 movement;
    private Rigidbody2D rb;
    void Start()
    {
        rb = GetComponent<Rigidbody2D>();
    }
    void Update()
    {
        movement.x = Input.GetAxisRaw("Horizontal");

        if (canClimb){
            movement.y = Input.GetAxisRaw("Vertical");
        }

        if (Input.GetButtonDown("Jump") && canJump){
            Vector2 jumpVector = new Vector2(0, jumpForce);
            rb.AddForce(jumpVector, ForceMode2D.Impulse);
        }
    }

    void FixedUpdate()
    {
        if (!canClimb){
            rb.velocity = new Vector2(movement.x * moveSpeed, rb.velocity.y);
        }
        else {
            rb.velocity = new Vector2(movement.x * moveSpeed, movement.y * moveSpeed);
        }
    }

    void OnCollisionEnter2D(Collision2D other)
    {
        if (other.gameObject.CompareTag("Ground")){
            canJump = true;
        }
        else if (other.gameObject.CompareTag("Death")){
            SceneManager.LoadScene(SceneManager.GetActiveScene().name);
        }
        else if (other.gameObject.CompareTag("Ladder")){
            rb.gravityScale = 0;
            rb.material.Friction = 10;
        }
    }

    void OnCollisionExit2D(Collision2D other)
    {
        if (other.gameObject.CompareTag("Ground")){
            canJump = false;
        }
        else if (other.gameObject.CompareTag("Ladder")){
            rb.gravityScale = 8;
            rb.material.Friction = 0;
        }
    }
}

why i can't change the rb.material ? it's a physical material

[sour fulcrum]

rigidbodies don't have materials

[grand snow]

they have physics materials

[sour fulcrum]

colliders do

[grand snow]

oh right, so the problem is "my code doesnt compile"? or what

[sour fulcrum]

im guessing yeah

since rb.material is not valid

[hollow spruce]

so what to do

[sour fulcrum]

what have you tried to do so far

[hollow spruce]

only this

then i got stuck

[grand snow]

was this ai generated or you just tried to guess what to do?

[sour fulcrum]

what have you tried to do to solve the problem*

[grand snow]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Collider-material.html

[subtle bane]

Can i Say that cursor and other similar AI assisted code creations tools are so nice tò have in 2025 i can code much more and much faster than i ever could even if i was a senior

[sour fulcrum]

You can absolutely say it!

It's not true but you can say it

[frosty hound]

Before we have to sit through the inevitable "AI is just a tool" and "just wait a few more years and it'll do everything" discussions, we have a thread for AI

https://discord.com/channels/489222168727519232/1352599815770341479

[subtle bane]

Nice ok, Sorry i didnt know there was a thread about It, thx

[tiny crag]

hello is there a way to detect collisions without making the object push eachother?

[subtle bane]

Kinematic rigid body ig?

[sour fulcrum]

whats the collision then

[tiny crag]

no then they wont detect collisions they have to be dynamic apparently

[tiny crag]

wdym?

[rich adder]

"detect collisions" is pretty vague. what are you trying to do

[tiny crag]

its between two objects and i only want the collision to be detected, not for them to push eachother

[rocky canyon]

use trigger colliders?

[subtle bane]

Trigger colliders should do the trick

[tiny crag]

im trying to make objects see if they have collided without pushing eachoter?

alr ima look into what trigger colliders are

[subtle bane]

Just a check on the collider

[tiny crag]

thanks!!

[subtle bane]

Trigger on Collider should be checked

[tiny crag]

the is trigger button?

[stuck current]

Where can I find games that I can access the editor and dive in and see how things work

[sour fulcrum]

none really

legally

[subtle bane]

I Guess on unity learn

[sour fulcrum]

theres some open source projects but not like fully finished notable ones

[subtle bane]

Yeah most likely

[rocky canyon]

the minigame templates are cool to look thru

[subtle bane]

Ye what i was thinking about for already made projects on unity

[tiny crag]

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[tiny crag]

there isnt a channel for bot commands right?

[naive pawn]

there isn't, no

[slender nymph]

would be a bit pointless since the commands are meant to direct other people to resources

[tiny crag]

ok just wanted to be sure

anyway collisions are not being detected now that i changed to trigger colliders

https://hastebin.skyra.pw/fezasokeva.pgsql

on row 39

[slender nymph]

https://unity.huh.how/physics-messages

[naive pawn]

that makes sense, trigger colliders don't collide

[tiny crag]

yes but isnt it supposed to realize that it has been triggered when the collider makes contact with another game object?

[slender nymph]

have you gone through the steps in the link i posted

[vital vault]

why do this code

_rb.MoveRotation(Quaternion.Euler(0, Input.GetAxisRaw("Mouse X")*_sensitivity*Time.deltaTime, 0));

rotates my player around X axis, not Y?

[naive pawn]

oh it's a trigger message

[naive pawn]

we are not standing over your shoulder

[tiny crag]

sorry i missed it ill go through it

[slender nymph]

this rotates around the Y axis

[naive pawn]

that's very little info to go off of

[vital vault]

unity dont think so

[naive pawn]

also, don't multiply mouse delta by deltaTime

[slender nymph]

prove it

[vital vault]

ok

[naive pawn]

imma just be blunt, you're probably reading it wrong

[vital vault]

1 sec

[naive pawn]

also note that that's basically an assignment - "set the rotation to X" rather than "rotate by X"

[vital vault]

but it atleast should work i guess?

[slender nymph]

use mp4 not mkv to embed in discord

[vital vault]

ok

[patent wedge]

whats the best way to get* different values based on if it's left, top left, right etc. i.e left = 0 topleft 1. need need the value to lerp between each other too.

[rich adder]

huh send values where?

[rich adder]

still doesn't make sense.. this question is incomplete

get values from where?

[naive pawn]

it sounds like you're asking about representing directions

in which case, well, direction vectors?

[patent wedge]

ok i'll give you more context i have a synth in unity that needs different frequencies based on the player's joystick.

[rich adder]

so Inputs ?

[patent wedge]

ye.

[rich adder]

are you using the new input system ?

[vital vault]

i removed deltatime and it just got worse

[patent wedge]

yes.

[rich adder]

you should have a 2D composite that gives you. a V2

[naive pawn]

you need to lower the sensitivity to compensate

[tiny crag]

@slender nymph i went through the steps and i still cant understand why it isnt working

[vital vault]

sens is 1f huh?

i call it in update

[slender nymph]

show both objects inspectors

[patent wedge]

yes. i would use that to set different frequencies but it doesn't have stuff for corners.

[slender nymph]

you sure about that? check the inspector

[rich adder]

sure it does, it returns v2.
if its for example V2 ( 1, 1) thats top right .etc

[vital vault]

and afaik if you wont do that, camera controls will become fps dependent

[patent wedge]

yeah but how would i convert those values into what i want i cant do a lerp or if with that.

[naive pawn]

mouse delta is already per frame, it's already frame-independant
if you multiply deltaTime in, it makes it frame-dependant

[slender nymph]

wrong, camera controls become dependent on fps when multiplied by deltaTime because they are already frame independent
https://unity.huh.how/mouse-input-and-deltatime

[tiny crag]

@slender nymph omg i forgot to turn on is trigger on the enemy prefab

thanks mate

[naive pawn]

you could get the direction as an angle, maybe

[slender nymph]

that is something that you should have checked when going through the steps in the link

[naive pawn]

but that would have a jump when it goes 360°

[naive pawn]

if the rb's rotation is frozen, wouldn't you be rotating the transform? would the rb not cede control over rotation in that case?

[rich adder]

do some type of mapping , possibly a switch.. What kind of value range do you want from it ?

[tiny crag]

sorry i found the "i am still not getting a message" button now that you said it

[vital vault]

0_0 srry my mistake

[patent wedge]

i need very specific for left, right, up-right. for the 8 notes in a c scale.

[vital vault]

and still, player doesnt rotate but instead just doing flips

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[rich adder]

some type of collection , list or dictionary should probably suffice

[vital vault]

https://paste.mod.gg/krngjiqcdpyr/0

[rich adder]

pass the V2 and get some values

[vital vault]

any ideas why player spins around X and not Y?

[naive pawn]

of if the output doesn't have to be continuous then you probably could just get the direction as an angle and round it to steps of 45°

[naive pawn]

how would this work for continuous/analog inputs

[rich adder]

arent they looking to map a direction to specific frequency value

[naive pawn]

a direction taken from joystick input

[rich adder]

yeah thinking some type of mapping

[patent wedge]

this'll work thx. i should of thought of it.

[rich adder]

show the inspector + scene of objects involved

[slender nymph]

Are you sure that the _head variable is not referring to this GameObject?

[vital vault]

0_0

how i missed that?

[slender nymph]

Well you forgot to look at the only lines of code that actually do rotate things around the X axis

[vital vault]

yea im dumb

[rich adder]

btw MovePosition is usually used for Kinematic
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Rigidbody.MovePosition.html
evn the docs says so

"Moves the kinematic Rigidbody towards position."

anything Physics related should also be in FixedUpdate

[rocky heart]

guys i use Destroy(gameObject); and some objects wprk but others say Destroying assets is not permitted to avoid data loss

[rich adder]

you still didn't post what was requested

[rocky heart]

huh

like i just instantiate a prefab and the instance tries to destroy itself but it gives the rror message how do i delete the instance

[rocky heart]

bro its just like 3 lines

[rich adder]

you are probably not deleting the instance / running the code off the prefab

[rocky heart]

why would i post the whole code

[keen dew]

Because we can't tell what's wrong with your code without seeing it

[rich adder]

its called Context

[rocky heart]

ok rude

[keen dew]

You're trying to destroy a prefab. Why and how? We can't tell without seeing the code

[ivory bobcat]

The unwanted behavior probably is related to the other lines of code

[vital vault]

whats called first: oncollisionstay or update?

[sour fulcrum]

generally oncollisionstay

but it depends

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/execution-order.html

[sour fulcrum]

this is * though with manually calculated physics updates though right

[rocky heart]

its in fixedupdate in the slice attack part

[ivory bobcat]

How to post !code

[eternal falcon]

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[rich adder]

huh ?

sorry its early morn for me lol my brain still not functioning

[naive pawn]

they are called in different loops

[sour fulcrum]

like if you ran Physics.SyncTransforms()

or do those still get delayed

[naive pawn]

oncollisionstay is called in the fixed time step
update is called per frame

[rocky canyon]

ya, i said this yesterday.. they're confusing how collisions occur..

they were wanting every frame collisions yesterday iirc

xy

[sour fulcrum]

oh lord

[keen dew]

Why is everything public and what's the point of a placeholder object? Make it private GameObject instantiatedCheeseSliceShadow; and check for null instead of a placeholder

[vital vault]

i mean what will be called first: ocs loop or update?

[rich adder]

btw like most things, you can easily test this with some logs

isn't that the whole point of development too ? trial and error to see how results play out

[rocky heart]

please dont judge me im a beginner and later when im done im gonna check what should be public or private

[undone pier]

spring joint docs. Why is the second sentence in each of them the same

[rich adder]

btw you should post it via links linked above, having to download a file is cumbersome

[rocky canyon]

Frame 1: Update()
Frame 2: Update()
Frame 3: Update(), FixedUpdate()
Frame 4: Update()
Frame 5: Update()
Frame 6: Update(), FixedUpdate()
Frame 7: Update()
Frame 8: Update()
Frame 9: Update(), FixedUpdate()
Frame 10: Update()
Frame 11: Update()
Frame 21: Update(), FixedUpdate()
``` Update and Physics kinda happen like this

OnCollisionEnter, OnCollisionStay, and OnCollisionExit are all ran immediately after the physics step, which itself happens inside the FixedUpdate cycle.

[sour fulcrum]

The judgement is just part of life, if your willing to learn we're happy to explain

[rocky heart]

ik ik im gonna fix it later

[naive pawn]

this question just does not make sense

[naive pawn]

i feel like this is slightly misleading

[keen dew]

If it's public there's a chance you've dragged a prefab to the field by mistake. Change it now and see if that fixes it

[rocky canyon]

slightly.. lol theres lots more stuff inbetween and more often

but its the gist of it..

[naive pawn]

throw a 40ms lag spike in there and suddenly you have 2 FixedUpdates back-to-back

[rocky canyon]

lol.. very true.

[naive pawn]

it may as well be random which is "called first"

[rocky heart]

no its empty in the inspector

[keen dew]

Doesn't matter

[rocky heart]

oooh

ok

[rocky canyon]

u mean between update/fixed?

[alpine fog]

this means you're trying to destroy a prefab, what you need to do is call Instantiate and use that to do your things and destroy it instead of the original prefab

[rocky canyon]

whats ocs ?

ohh oncollision something.. i imagine

[naive pawn]

yeah

[rocky canyon]

ahh gotcha.. ya in the grand scheme of things ive never really thought bout it

[rocky heart]

it didnt work

[keen dew]

Then put Debug.Log($"Trying to destroy {instantiatedCheeseSliceShadow.name}"); before the destroy and see what it logs right before the error

[rocky canyon]

i think this is a carry-on from yesterday..
#💻┃code-beginner message

The thing is i need to check for collisions every frame
And i asked because you can stand on the floor, bump into corner and get even 3 collisions

u can see more context from OP.. even if still kinda vague-sh

[naive pawn]

yeah definitely an x/y problem

[alpine fog]

@rocky heart

according to the naming of your variables, you want to instantiate the placeholder 3 times? In that case you're doing it wrong
just assigning it to placeholderObject does not create a copy it's a direct reference. You need to assign Object.Instantiate(placeholderObject) and then it becomes a copy of the placeholder object

otherwise when you call Destroy(instantiatedSkateboardAttack) it is trying to destroy the original placeholderObject which if it is a prefab is not allowed

[rocky canyon]

good catch ^ ur reassgining it most likly

[keen dew]

I don't know what's the deal with the placeholder objects but there's a check before the destroy that makes sure it's not the placeholder

It might be related sure

[rocky heart]

wait why does it say Trying to destroy CheeseSlice1Shadow and not instantiatedCheeseSlice

[rocky canyon]

Debugging the actual objects (with decent naming) should sort it all out

[rocky heart]

huh

[keen dew]

It's printing the name of the object, not the name of the variable

[rocky heart]

oh ok

ok, now what

[keen dew]

Ok I see it

if (instantiatedCheeseSliceShadow = cheeseSlice1Shadow)

[rich adder]

nice

[keen dew]

Comparison is ==. This sets the value to the prefab

[sour fulcrum]

it is lowkey dumb that that can be valid code

[keen dew]

Yeah I don't understand why it's allowed

[sour fulcrum]

or at the very least not insanely warned by vs

[rocky heart]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

thx omg

[naive pawn]

assignment is an expression that yields the rhs

and it's allowed since the rhs is a UnityEngine.Object which has an implicit boolean conversion

[brisk night]

I made this handy little helper for debug logging https://gist.github.com/ShacharWeis/1e654da40611d040c429e7b7d3441cfd

[modern rampart]

This might be a loaded newbie question, but how do I go from not knowing very much at all about coding, to making an RPG style game in unity?

[sour fulcrum]

A lot of time and patience

And probably games that aren’t rpgs

[modern rampart]

The programming class I took in high school was a joke

[rich adder]

RPG is def not what you want to start with

[modern rampart]

Probably a simple platformer first?

[rich adder]

sure , anything with simple logic / not a lot of moving parts

[grand snow]

want to learn programming? do that, then come back to learning unity and using your new skills

[modern rampart]

I don’t much care for programming outside of game dev

[rich adder]

You still need the basics

[ivory bobcat]

Could probably get away with the basics

[rich adder]

basic syntax, basic types, functions, collections, yada yada stuff like that

anything unity related is the API itself and a few core concepts you need to know like "what are gameobjects? components? " etc.

[grand snow]

Yea you still need those skills to make a good complex game

[ivory bobcat]

Game development is more than just programming but will require some level of programming if you're wanting more features

[grand snow]

It is but if you cant actually code the logic it wont work

[modern rampart]

I see, and this is learnable online? Should I take a class?

[ivory bobcat]

Oh, the very basics are necessary. Who knows when you're going to have to debug a future game bug later

[rich adder]

anywhere you want but imo the best source is the M$ site on learn (pinned in this channel)

You will learn basic stuff you need like store values in variables etc.

w3schools is okay too sometimes for quicker stuff

[grand snow]

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/learn/csharp (from microsoft, maintainers of c#)
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-c-sharp
https://www.w3schools.com/cs/index.php

id go top down myself

[modern rampart]

Oh awesome thanks yall

[rich adder]

oh also coursera too has some good stuff from microsoft https://www.coursera.org/learn/introduction-to-programming-with-c-sharp

[carmine ocean]

hey im having an issue where it says "The name "MouseX" does not exist in current context"

ive been on this for a little while and couldnt find out what it is wrong could someone help me out?

public class CameraController : MonoBehaviour
{
    public Transform transform;
    public float MouseSens = 2f;
    
    void Start()
    {
        
    }

    void Update()
    {
        MouseX = (Input.GetAxis("Mouse X"));

        transform.Rotate = MouseX * Time.deltaTime* MouseSens;
    }
}

[grand snow]

float MouseX =

[carmine ocean]

please do correct me on any bad practices i would be thankful

[naive pawn]

don't use deltaTime on mouse delta

[grand snow]

you need to declare the type to define a new variable

[naive pawn]

it's already per-frame

[carmine ocean]

god damn it thank you so much

[grand snow]

c# basics time!

[cosmic quail]

bad practice is having an empty Start method

[carmine ocean]

oh right sorry

[carmine ocean]

it was going to be filled with a mouse lock

[primal trench]

how do i get the name of a textasset

[sour fulcrum]

Pretty harmless

[naive pawn]

.name

[cosmic quail]

still a bad practice 😄

[primal trench]

would that also get the file extension?

[grand snow]

it exists on all UnityEngine.Object types and should just be the name

so no need to do anything to it

[patent wedge]

how do i make it a 360 range as Mathf.Atan2(y, x) * Mathf.Rad2Deg; has -90 for down.

[grand snow]

why? using it with Quaternion.Euler() is fine

[naive pawn]

(they want a linear range for mapping onto a different range)

im not sure that's really an issue though. you could just offset it

[grand snow]

yea +180 would push it to 0-360

[primal trench]

another dumb question bc im bad at cs, im from godot, let

s say i have a function called like

pause game, and i want it to be accessed from any script, would that be one of those singleton things or a public void

[naive pawn]

those are separate concepts

singleton means the instance is easily retreivable
being public means the member is legally accessible

also, no such thing as a public void - that'd be a public method that returns void

[primal trench]

ye ik i was just saying it

[naive pawn]

it doesn't make sense

[grand snow]

Perhaps too pedantic for a beginner channel
You can use a "singleton" static field to access some component with a Pause() function or have the Pause() function be static itself.

https://unity.huh.how/references/singletons

[naive pawn]

wdym too pedantic lol
this is a common misconception

[grand snow]

well we can tell they mean a public function, weakly typed langs dont teach people these things well

[naive pawn]

it's also a common correction here... it's not a pedantic thing at all, it's a basic concept where the term happens to not be a keyword

[ivory bobcat]

You would need a reference to the instance to access anything related to an instance. The static keyword used with the Singleton pattern makes use of an Instance variable being a part of the class (not a part of instances of the class) thus accessible from anywhere the class is accessible - declared as static.

Not sure why you're wanting global-like members for. Hopefully not because you're wanting to avoid proper referencing.

[primal trench]

No I just don’t know what singletons are in CS

[grand snow]

https://unity.huh.how/references/singletons

[patent wedge]

issues with gain in my script.

i was following https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqHFGMy_51c&t=57s

and realized that when changing the gain it'll pop even if i smooth out the volume.

[silver fern]

if I destroy an object thats in a list, will the corresponding entry in the list also be removed?

[grand snow]

no

no magic like that exists, you would need to set up something to remove the object from the list when its destroyed

Or you just check for destroyed items when looping over the list and remove them as you encounter them

[silver fern]

rn I have private void Update() { for (int i = EffectsList.Count - 1; i >= 0; i--) { if (EffectsList[i].effectDuration <= Time.time) { StopEffect(EffectsList[i]); EffectsList.RemoveAt(i); } } } where StopEffect() destroys the object, so that should be fine right?

[grand snow]

Oh well you are removing it right after so no problems there
BUT I thought what EffectsList held was not a component? The unity concept of "Destroying" is only applicable there

[ivory bobcat]

Your iteration may become off though Nevermind, reverse loop

[silver fern]

It holds the effect objects, mainly to easily check their timers in Update

[grand snow]

that doesnt answer my query

anyway you remove this from the list so i see no problem

[naive pawn]

it's going backwards

[silver fern]

it seems to be working though

[grand snow]

yea because you removed it from the list so its gonezo

perhaps you are confused about something?

[silver fern]

does it just stay in memory forever in this case? I didn't get an error message with destroy or anything

[naive pawn]

there's kinda 2 layers to it

[grand snow]

GC takes care of it 🧹

[silver fern]

in other words the Destroy is superfluous if I just remove it from the list?

[grand snow]

"oh look nothing references this object i will delete it now!" -GC

[grand snow]

Destroy() is for Gameobjects, monobehaviours, components and unity assets only
using it on another class/type does nothing

[ivory bobcat]

Does the effect object require you to dispose of it?

[naive pawn]

there's a c++ layer that unity manages, and there's a c# layer that the runtime manages
c++ memory is handled manually, c# has automatic memory management

UnityEngine.Objects are basically wrappers to the actual objects in c++ land
when you Destroy an object, the c++ version gets destroyed, and the wrapper becomes invalidated, but not magically destroyed

[silver fern]

actually, the objects inherit from monobehaviour so I can use InvokeRepeating

[ivory bobcat]

If it's a plain c# object, it'll be collected by the garage collector - eventually.

[naive pawn]

the c# version gets destroyed when the GC notices that nothing's referencing it
if it's still in the list, that wrapper is still being referenced, and it won't get collected

[grand snow]

If they are attached to a GameObject then yes Destroy() will do something (remove it from that gameobject)

[naive pawn]

use coroutines instead

much more flexible and you can actually manage them

[grand snow]

BUT you will need to "start" the coroutine from a monobehaviour

[naive pawn]

same for InvokeRepeating, so i don't see the issue

[grand snow]

are we sure about that?

Isnt that meant to work only on the instance its used on?

[naive pawn]

...same for StartCoroutine?

[grand snow]

no we can start a coroutine and pass the returned IEnumerator from anywhere

if we used the function name then that does not work

[naive pawn]

im not sure what you're talking about

"returned IEnumerator"?

StartCoroutine takes an IEnumerator

[patent wedge]

with the joystick to angle to 45 degree increments it has issue when round values near 360 i want it to round back to 0.

[naive pawn]

and not using the function name is a good thing, actually

[grand snow]

StartCoroutine(genericClass.Thingy())

[ivory bobcat]

What currently happens instead?

[naive pawn]

StartCoroutine and InvokeRepeating are both non-static, public methods of MonoBehaviour

i honestly have no idea what you're trying to say

[naive pawn]

check if it's 360 and if it is set it to 0

[grand snow]

The "coroutine" function does not need to be a member of the instance we call StartCoroutine() on if we use public Coroutine StartCoroutine(IEnumerator routine);
that is the exception and the other overloads do not work this way due to just taking a method name.

[silver fern]

is it a big disadvantage to use InvokeRepeating?

[grand snow]

well its not that great and is probably acting as a crutch for you rn

[silver fern]

mainly it's for dealing x damage every y seconds

[grand snow]

you could call a function on your effects each Update() and implement the same functionality

[naive pawn]

i forgot Coroutine had a string overload ngl

[grand snow]

we did discuss this like 1 day ago 😐

[naive pawn]

so what was this about..?

this sounded like you were saying coroutine was worse

[grand snow]

Nah it was in relation to if effect object is changed to not inherit from MonoBehaviour

[naive pawn]

but that would apply for InvokeRepeating too in that case

[grand snow]

yea

[naive pawn]

were you not replying to this?

[grand snow]

the point was you can still use coroutines without MonoBehaviour blah blah that overload blah blah

anyway im done 👋

[silver fern]

ok thanks

[shy yew]

bro can someone help me , i just started to learn how to make 2D game ( im new ) and i want to know how can i make light additive and that not everything goes black when i put a light , like if they adds up

[patent wedge]

how could i do a mathf.movetowards with duration rather than speed i already tried

var val2 = Mathf.Movetowards(val * Time.deltatime)```

[naive pawn]

this is the code channel
ask #1390346776804069396 or #🖼️┃2d-tools

[shy yew]

ok thx

[naive pawn]

what's the 60f supposed to be

also MoveTowards is not spelled like that and it takes 3 parameters
is your ide configured

[patent wedge]

i just got this from https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51165278/use-movetowards-with-duration-instead-of-speed

[naive pawn]

you took it from the question instead of the answer

[patent wedge]

sry, i didn't copy and paste my code i just typed it.

[naive pawn]

yeah don't do that

that'll just introduce new problems or obscure existing ones

what's your actual code

[patent wedge]

var val1 = Mathf.Abs(start - end) / (Duration * 60f);
var val2 = Mathf.MoveTowards(start, end, val1 * Time.deltaTime);

[ivory bobcat]

That doesn't look like it'll compile..

[patent wedge]

btw it was after the edit.

[naive pawn]

why wouldn't it

doesn't really change it

the guy asking is typically not the person who knows everything

[silver fern]

isnt it val1 inside move towards

[patent wedge]

sorry i was renaming my variables to be clearer.

[silver fern]

what did you name them for yourself?

[naive pawn]

oh my god show your actual code instead of changing random stuff that breaks or fixes it

[patent wedge]

var diff = Mathf.Abs(frequency - freq) / (SlideDuration * 60f);
frequency = Mathf.MoveTowards(frequency, frequencies[targetFreq],  diff * Time.deltaTime);

[silver fern]

it's best to name your variables so its always clear

[naive pawn]

there we go

[patent wedge]

they are, in context.

[naive pawn]

you weren't even feeding a new value to movetowards before

[naive pawn]

val1 and val2 are very unclear

[naive pawn]

so what's the 60f supposed to represent

is SlideDuration supposed to be in minutes or something

[patent wedge]

seconds also i got the code from https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51165278/use-movetowards-with-duration-instead-of-speed

[naive pawn]

also that's recomputing the difference every time, so you end up with a smaller distance covered each time - you'd have to pre-compute the time

[naive pawn]

then the *60 just does not make sense

stackoverflow questions are not particularly good places to get code from

[silver fern]

what does duration instead of speed even mean

[ivory bobcat]

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do but if you're just trying to progress one value to another over time rather than some incremental speed, you could opt for lerp instead.. https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Mathf.Lerp.html
Where duration would be normalized

[naive pawn]

the parameter input being duration instead of speed

[patent wedge]

i.e if speed is 1 unit per second, then to go from 0 to 1 will take 1 second then if its 0 to 10 it,ll take 10 seconds. i want to calulate a speed that no matter the distance it'll take the same amount of time.

[silver fern]

ah ok

cant you just calculate the speed for that

[ivory bobcat]

Where the third argument would be something like.. elapsedTime/duration

[naive pawn]

(which is what they're trying to do lol)

[silver fern]

well speed = distance / time, so time = distance / speed

[naive pawn]

the issue here is they're recomputing speed with the new value of distance every frame

you have to somewhat keep a state anyways

lerp would probably be easier, but that might not support their usecase

what should happen if a new note is selected before you're done transitioning to the previous one?

[patent wedge]

i need a nice linear interpolation rather than something like a lerp where it gets slower and slower.

[silver fern]

then just calculate the distance once

[ivory bobcat]

Linear interpolation is the definition of lerp.

It doesn't get slower if you're using proper lerp

[silver fern]

it gets slower if you keep recalculating with shrinking distance

then you get a curve

[ivory bobcat]

May as well go for slerp at that point

[patent wedge]

mathf doesn't have slerp.

[naive pawn]

you are using wronglerp

[ivory bobcat]

You aren't wanting a slerp pattern as far as I'm aware

[naive pawn]

you need to use actual lerp

[ivory bobcat]

You're wanting the proper lerp

[naive pawn]

how would that help

[rich adder]

https://unity.huh.how/lerp/wrong-lerp

[ivory bobcat]

We were joking - relative to improper lerp

[naive pawn]

completely missed it lol

[patent wedge]

any ideas?

[patent wedge]

cause Mathf.Abs(frequency - freq) / (SlideDuration / 100f); works fine for me but i just want it in seconds.

[ivory bobcat]

Proper lerp
https://unity.huh.how/lerp/overview

[patent wedge]

how does this help me?

[naive pawn]

we gave you several

[naive pawn]

you were doing wrong lerp before

[patent wedge]

cause i'm not using lerp.

i'm using movetowards.

[naive pawn]

this is the issue you have with your movetowards

[silver fern]

well use lerp

[ivory bobcat]

It's a solution for interpolating between two points given time/duration rather than moving towards the value given speed etc

[naive pawn]

you said

rather than something like a lerp where it gets slower and slower.
this is wrong lerp

lerp stands for linear interpolation. it's linear if you use it correctly

[patent wedge]

also remember the values are constantly changing.

[ivory bobcat]

I'm not willing to write the code so you'll need to Google a bit or use one of the other mathematical solutions

[naive pawn]

yes, and you aren't accounting for that

the solutions we've cited do

[silver fern]

don't use movetowards

[naive pawn]

movetowards is fine

it's lerp taking different values

[patent wedge]

yes but as i stated before Mathf.Abs(frequency - freq) / (SlideDuration / 100f); works fine i just don't know how to make the duration seconds rather than my arbitrary value.

[low goblet]

is there any other way to prevent

No measure function set in this node's config
UnityEditor.EditorApplication:Internal_CallUpdateFunctions ()

spam in 6000.2 besides restarting the editor? when i restart the editor, it goes away for about 5 minutes and then comes back.

[rocky canyon]

speed = distance / desiredTime

[naive pawn]

the important thing is using the proper values in each iteration
for movetowards: don't recompute time, use new position
for lerp: use original position, remember elaspsed time

[naive pawn]

maybe stop claiming stuff works when it doesn't lol

it's arbitrary because your current usage of movetowards is effectively just wronglerp lmao

[patent wedge]

it does! why don't you think

var diff = Mathf.Abs(frequency - freq) / (SlideDuration / 60f);
frequency = Mathf.MoveTowards(frequency, frequencies[targetFreq],  diff * Time.deltaTime);

[ivory bobcat]

Not certain but that seems to be a Unity Editor error and not something with some script that you've written. Try asking #💻┃unity-talk , sending bug report in the forums etc

[naive pawn]

it's not linear.

because you're using the updated value of frequency each time

[low goblet]

yea, I made sure nothing in my scripts was causing it, I'll ask there thanks

[naive pawn]

@patent wedge you should stop assuming things you don't know

lerp and movetowards are the same math, both are linear if used properly
the problem is you aren't using them properly
like you said - keep in mind, the values are changing!

the important thing is using the proper values in each iteration
for movetowards: don't recompute time, use new position
for lerp: use original position, remember elaspsed time

you can use either lerp or movetowards here - again, it's the same math.
just make sure to update the variables that need updating, and don't update the ones that don't.

you don't seem to have a separate current vs target variable, so yeah movetowards would probably be more straightforward
but if you want it to be linear, you have to not recompute the speed every frame, because that would take the new distance and you end up with an exponential decay - the exact thing you were complaining about with (wrong)lerp

oh and yeah get rid of random coefficients you can't explain lol

[ivory bobcat]

Proper lerp and move-towards with linear non-changing speed.
Lerp:cs c = Lerp(a, b, t)where t would go from 0 to 1. Where t = 0 would have the value be a and t = 1 would have the value be b. t should not be some constant fraction in proper lerp.
Move Towards:cs a = MoveTowards(a, b, speed)where a would increment by an amount equal to speed till it's the value b.

[pine bone]

hello, im planning to create a robot construction game where you build your own robot in a 2d grid and run the simulation to see how your robot behaves on its own, im planning to add a small code editor to add your own logic to your robot, does anyone have any suggestions on how i would structure the robot?

[naive pawn]

(pedantically - it would be MoveTowards(a, b, distance) or MoveTowards(a, b, speed * deltaTime))

[ivory bobcat]

I was going to use d for the distance to travel but I figured four single letter variables may be a bit much for some who are still learning.

[patent wedge]

So should I just do distance divided by duration? I really just want a simple clean way of doing this.

[naive pawn]

yes, that's what speed is

the issue before was that - again - you were recomputing it with the updated distance. you need to keep the same speed, calculated from the starting distance.

[ivory bobcat]

Meaning diff should only be evaluated once

[glad hazel]

Is it ok to put logic inside a class that is also a scriptable object?

[stuck current]

I’ve asked this earlier but is there any projects I can look into to observe the framework and see if I’m doing anything wrong and improve

[rich adder]

like the profiler

[timber tide]

https://assetstore.unity.com/publishers/1
Grab one of unity's templates and dissect it

[knotty tiger]

hey everyone, im trying to export my project to my friend who has mac, for some reason it wont open for him and displays a tab saying the application cannot open. anyone know a fix?

[rich adder]

exporting the project how ?

[knotty tiger]

trying to send it to my friend over dropbox using files

[rich adder]

send what the project ? or the build ?

[knotty tiger]

the build yeah sorry

[rich adder]

are you exporting from a mac

[knotty tiger]

no im exporting from windows

[rich adder]

does windows support export single app file ?

anyway your friend can try seeing if its probably being blocked in the privacy setting.. since its from an unverified/unknown developer according to apple ..

[knotty tiger]

when exporting i get the .app file and then contents and finally the rest of the stuff in it

[rich adder]

for future this goes in #💻┃unity-talk. this is a coding channel

[rich adder]

the folders are probably debugging files from build, it should only be that single .app you send

[knotty tiger]

these are my settings and the inside of the contents folder which is in the .app folder

[rich adder]

ohh I see.. windows shows it as folders directly..

[grand snow]

guess apple couldnt be bothered to make it an blob

[rich adder]

hmmm on here they are in a couple of folders deep

[knotty tiger]

it is maybe that i compressed the folders and its something to do with permissions?

[rich adder]

probably dropbox

[knotty tiger]

is there any way to not compress the file and send it

[rich adder]

put it inside another folder and zip that

[primal trench]

another beginner question, if i have a player health that i want to be stored throughout scenes, where would i put that?

[potent hornet]

Does anyone know why my linearVelocity is Vector3.zero, I don't think I'm calling to it anywhere else

[rich adder]

probably a singleton

https://learn.unity.com/tutorial/implement-data-persistence-between-scenes

[slender nymph]

is the rigidbody kinematic

[potent hornet]

It's not, but I think I might have found the issue

[rich adder]

danggg.. cache your vars / components
so many repetitions can be avoided

[potent hornet]

Nevermind I didn't

[rich adder]

not moving at all ?

[potent hornet]

No, the animator's float is changing as expected, but the linearVelocity is still Vector3.zero

[rich adder]

is the animator taking over the transform maybe ?

[potent hornet]

What would that mean, and how could I tell

[rich adder]

disable it / remove it, and comment out the animator lines

[grand snow]

hmm good idea

[primal trench]

isn't there smth about only one singleton?]

[rich adder]

wdym ?

[primal trench]

idk there's so much controversy about singletons, i thought i heard somewhere you should only have one singleton

[rich adder]

nah you should use them without worry

just dont abuse / use them as crutch

[primal trench]

would i also wanna use this for 'global' functions like, idk pause game?

[rich adder]

yeah they generally used for that like GamePlayManager or something that controls flow of the game

• DDOL so they don't die between scenes

[potent hornet]

I closed my project and restarted it and it worked. But it was giving some animator error about an object not being set and Null Edges or something

I'll have to screenshot that next time, but also thanks!

[warped sierra]

Unity 2022 is riddled with bugs. The build window is incredibly slow, the MP4 player is incredibly slow, and this bug. 🙁

[copper python]

Could anyone help me with my (not at all beginner level) problem in Unity? It's about i's value in a for loop magically changing by black magic whilest trying to run a async method. The problem is rather complex so that's why I'm asking to ask XD

Example snappet:

            for (int i = 0; i < operations.Count; i++)
            {
                var op = operations[i];
                var localProgress = new Progress<float>(p =>
                {
                    float groupProgress = (i + p) / operations.Count;
                    Debug.Log($"i: {i} | p: {p} | groupProgress: {groupProgress}");


                    progress.Report(groupProgress);
                });

                await op.ExecuteAsync(localProgress, token);
            }

[rich adder]

do this instead int index = i;

by the time that lambda run the i can be different

so capturing it like that should ensure its the value you expect it to be

var op = operations[i];
int index = i;
var localProgress = new Progress<float>(p =>
{
    float groupProgress = (index + p) / operations.Count;
    Debug.Log($"i: {index} | p: {p} | groupProgress: {groupProgress}");
    progress.Report(groupProgress);
});```

[rich adder]

why does it says Unity 2021.2.19f then ?

don't even think 2.0 was actual LTS / full release (I think it was tech stream?)

so riddled with bugs makes sense..its literally a preview release ?

what are you trying to do anyway?

[copper python]

Will give it a try, ty!

[copper python]

You have no way how much I love you

I went crazy for over 7 hours trying to fi this

[warped sierra]

No, that's another error, but in 2019, the path points to "2021.2.19f1-x86_64" when it should be "2021.2.19f1"

The slow interface bug is in the latest 2022 LTS version.

[vital vault]

How can i make my class editable from inspector?

[polar dust]

you'll have to show code, the question is too ambiguous

[smoky ruin]

Guys, just one question, which is better for a fast paced FPS, charactercontroller or rigidbody?

[rich adder]

kinematic

[remote vault]

hey im debugging a little input system for the player and it shows this error on console, whats the issue and how do i fix it?

[sour fulcrum]

What does the error say

[remote vault]

ill show you

[rich adder]

https://unity.huh.how/input/input-system/input-handling

[remote vault]

thanks dude

[stray crag]

whenever i create a new project it always starts witht his error message: CommandBuffer: built-in render texture type 3 not found while executing (SetRenderTarget depth buffer)
UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent (int,intptr,bool&)

[rich adder]

dont crosspost

[stray crag]

sorry

i thought i had the wrong chat

[remote vault]

btw thanks nav i got it to work

i set it to use both input systems how come it says its recommended to not use both input systems?

[rich adder]

I'm not sure why but I recall it warns you about mobile compatibility thing when you build to android

its pretty easy to use the new system, keep it on both then phase it out as you learn new one

[remote vault]

ok thanks

[umbral bough]

Hey, I am using this singleton asset:
https://github.com/UnityCommunity/UnitySingleton
It's supposed to support editor scripts too, according to this:
https://github.com/UnityCommunity/UnitySingleton/issues/2
However, I keep getting spammed with the error seen in the picture.
I simply call the manager like this:

private static Transform Player => ColosseumSceneManager.Player.transform;

private void Update()
{
    // Move camera to the player's position to allow for proper offset after rotation
    transform.position = Player.position;
    if (_rotateCamera) Rotate();
    Offset();
}

Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug?
Please @ me and thanks in advance!

btw, I am using the latest Unity 6.3 alpha, that could be the cause.

[timber tide]

line 29

[umbral bough]

Yeah, that's the best part, reported lines make no sense whatsoever :/

Could this be a bug?
I'll try deleting the library dir as I was doing some weird stuff just before this happened so maybe that corrupted or sm.

[timber tide]

Why's the numbering here labled like that

[umbral bough]

relative line numbers

vim mode

[timber tide]

What does that mean? Is the line above 29 here right before

[umbral bough]

yes, the line above 29 that says 1 is line 28

it shows the number of the line you are on and the others are relative to that

Here, I toggled it to make it easier for you.

[timber tide]

Try commenting out 6, I'm just curious if it's complaining about that

or rather w/e 6 is here

[umbral bough]

like the 6th line in the colosseum scene manager?

[timber tide]

What I'm eyeing from the error is 'instance field initializer' from the debug, but I'm not seeing a FindAnyObjectByType call

FindWithTag however is a similar Find operation

[umbral bough]

ah, that's from the singleton implementation I am using

https://github.com/UnityCommunity/UnitySingleton/blob/main/Runtime/Scripts/MonoSingleton.cs#L38

btw, wasn't the library dir, I just rebuilt it and all the same sadly

I think this has something to do with how I am accessing stuff in the ctor but I honestly have no clue...

Like is this not a proper way to access a variable from a singleton?

[SerializeField, Required] private CameraManager _cameraManager;
public static CameraManager CameraManager => Instance._cameraManager ??=
    Instance.gameObject.GetComponent<CameraManager>();

[umbral bough]

Oh wow...
It took ai pointing this out for me to notice o_0
See something weird about this line?

public static float DestructionVelocity = Instance._destructionVelocity;

Yeah, I used = instead of =>, which caused initialization and an error.
I genuinely don't know how I managed to miss this one, literally never happened before.
Thanks for trying to help!

[rich cradle]

hi i am new in unity and i am wondering if i have learnd java can i use it for unity?

[sour fulcrum]

no

but c# is very similar

very very

[rich cradle]

ok thx

[potent turtle]

Technically you can if you're specifically writing native code for Android. But not in a way that matters for general game development

[rich cradle]

ok

do yall have som tips for what game i shud make?

[potent turtle]

Whatever you want. Start small though. Learn the engine before trying to make anything too big. Starting on a large project right off the bat is a recipe for frustration

[trim eagle]

aww

shucks

[rich cradle]

😂

[rich cradle]

I'm thinking about a game where you spawn with a gun and speed run through it taking out all the NPCs

and low poly

[potent turtle]

3D?

[rich cradle]

yea

[rich cradle]

why?

[potent turtle]

Just wondering. Just looking at the trailer for Karlson making that game exactly will be tricky and take a lot of time. Just start small, work your way up from there. Start with just a player controller that you can move around and jump with, and add all the other stuff on top of that

[rich cradle]

yea

[rich cradle]

so when i am going to script the movment it just open note

[potent turtle]

Make sure you have Visual Studio (or Visual Studio Code) set as your external editor

Assuming you mean that when you double click a script in the asset browser it opens Notepad

[rich cradle]

oh ok

[rich cradle]

wehn i click on open

[potent turtle]

Yeah they do the same thing

[rich cradle]

ok

so i need yo go downlode Visual Studio

[potent turtle]

Yeah. The Community edition's the one you want, that's the free version

[rich cradle]

ok

[junior ivy]

Hi, I'm experienced programmer but I'm new to the game dev and I'm shocked how different this is from actual programming.
I would like to talk about dependency injection / OOP.

I found that there is no such thing as a front controller in unity (same in godot and other engines except low level graphic APIs where I programmed everything myself).
Also there is no such thing as dependency injection.
No such thing as service container as well...

This makes OOP pretty much impossible in unity but I found 1 solution: lazy injection, which is passing dependencies after the class instance is created.

Problem: I want to use a component in all game objects but it looks unnecessary and memory consuming to call AddComponent every time I initialize game object. I don't need "unity-level" dependencies in my code... I need my dependencies in my code. Since there is no service container, I cannot get component from something global... instead unity prompts me to add component to the game object if I wanna use it. That's unacceptable.

Solution:

// THIS IS MY FRONT CONTROLLER, THE GAME STARTS ONLY FROM HERE
// ALL INITIALIZATIONS ARE PROGRAMMABLE (materials, game objects, components, call sequences), NO GUI IS NEEDED
public class Game : MonoBehaviour 
{
    void Awake()
    {
        var camera = new GameObject("Camera");

        var unityCamera = camera.AddComponent<Camera>();
        unityCamera.orthographic = true;
        unityCamera.orthographicSize = Config.resolution.y / 2;
        unityCamera.transform.position = new Vector3(0, 0, -1000);
        camera.AddComponent<DragCamera>();

        var mapEditor = new GameObject("MapEditor").AddComponent<MapEditor>();

        // Init is my method for lazy injection of camera because I don't want to do mapEditor.AddComponent<Camera>();
        // I don't even know if unity will create a new Camera instance or use the one from its internal instance contaienr initialized before Awake...
        mapEditor.Init(unityCamera);
    }
}

What do you think?

[rich cradle]

is the unity codeing c#?

[sour fulcrum]

I'm not super sophisticatedly oop-pilled but singleton patterns and potentially usage of [RuntimeInitializeOnLoad] as an initial entry point seems to solve a lot of my problems.

Not quite sure what you mean by

I want to use a component in all game objects but it looks unnecessary and memory consuming

[junior ivy]

I mean that I don't need to overhead my code with components if I can just pass their instances via Init methods.

How would you create singlefon of built-in Camera component and inject it in your classes?

I avoid singletons because they are anti pattern but I might do an exception for the game dev but only if there is not other choice. I found a solution already so I don't singletons but I want to hear opinion of game devs.

[sour fulcrum]

game dev'ing will break your spirits

it's arbitrary af 😛

[junior ivy]

hah, it already broke everything it could
I'm after few months of low level API/shader programming

[potent turtle]

Why are you not using prefabs for this?

[junior ivy]

prefabs are static, I will use them once I need bigger not dynamically generated objects

[eternal needle]

If you fight the system, you mostly end up with a struggle in trying to still use unity properly. You also lose out a lot on the actual benefits like configuring stuff in editor rather than through code. You'll find a ton more people here that dont bother with proper DI and instead just stick with a singleton where needed.
It also does sound questionable why your camera would ever be a singleton

[eternal needle]

Even from your example here, its clearly an "everything defined in code" route which just wont benefit you at all. This also is very bad for designers or any non-coders in a team who would need to configure something and would usually do so on an existing component/prefab

[junior ivy]

yeah camera as a singleton was just a stupid example
I need proper OOP because it makes my life a lot easier and makes me do things because I like it (and I hate game engines in general)

yes exactly, "everything defined in code" is the way I want to go and I believe I can achieve everything with it just as you with GUI

I believe it's a matter of preference because I'm completely alone (no team) and it won't change. I will never call myself a game dev so I don't need to follow guidelines

[eternal needle]

Then use proper OOP however you like and treat unity simply as a way to render objects. Nothings stopping you from doing this and coding it exactly as you would outside unity
Ive only seen 2 people in this server defend this kind of style and I know one quit like 2 months in.

Again you can fight the system, but don't blame the system when you struggle to do basic things down the line

[keen dew]

You might be more comfortable with Monogame for example which is still C# but unopinionated. You're not going to have a good time with Unity if your preferences clash with how it's designed to be used

[junior ivy]

I want to give it a try at least 🙂 let's call it a challenge

I decided to use unity because godot is very poor if it comes to 3D, shadows and performance (I tested it, it's my opinion). Unreal is too much for me...

[eternal needle]

Its less of a challenge and more of stubbornness. Theres nothing about this thats a challenge. Youre simply just setting yourself up to configure things in a worse way that isnt sustainable, especially for non tech people. That's all

All the power to you if you wanna write it that way. Your game will function the exact same as someone who doesnt write it that way. Will it get produced faster/have more players? No

[sour fulcrum]

and I believe I can achieve everything with it just as you with GUI
Honestly nah

Like in a literal sense yes

in a practical sense nah

especially for 3d

[eternal needle]

Theres a lot that instantly break the workflow too, like the fact unity already has a lot of components with values you arent going to be setting in code

[junior ivy]

"everything" is a big word, it's obvious I won't do literally everything is code

[eternal needle]

Even the amount that youre thinking of doing is still the same issues

No one's physically restraining you from doing it, but trust me you're going to be questioned by almost everyone who helps in this server for doing it in a non unity way

[junior ivy]

I copy their default values in code by creating them manually first and test them. Also I learn them with AI and tutorials to maximize the control I have over all components.

[sour fulcrum]

ai is shit for unity and most things

your going to struggle a lot here

if your fine doing so by all means

by design this is just a bad way of using the engine

[junior ivy]

well AI is horrible but much faster than learning the doc, it speeds up self-learning a lot

[eternal needle]

Idk if that 2nd sentence was meant to instill hope but it definitely makes me think you're hitting a brick wall faster than you realize.

This sounds like an abysmal way to code

[sour fulcrum]

nah

[eternal needle]

But 🤷‍♂️ call it preference if you want. I dont think I can give anymore big red flags than I have already

[junior ivy]

the only real problem I see is that my project won't be maintainable by anyone except me (and it's good, I'm really doing it just for fun)

[eternal needle]

"Except me" wont be the same you in 6 months. The same reason people comment their code if they're the only one using it

[junior ivy]

anyway thanks, I just wanted to know if there are any real blockers

[sour fulcrum]

practicality

[lament leaf]

How do you fix the problem in a 2d platformer, that when you are falling and just holding D into a wall and you just dont fall as long as you hold D (or the Key for moving in a direct)

[reef bramble]

any1 know how I can change this value via code in hdrp: the temperature.

[spice sand]

Hi guys is it possible to get the volume level of audiosource while playing using update()? Completely slience = 0.00f, loudest = 1.00f

[grand snow]

There are a few DI frameworks made specially for unity and you can create classes that arent components. Static classes exist

[knotty tiger]

Thank you worked perfectly

[vital vault]

nvm, i just made it [System.Serializeable]

[wintry quarry]

Yep take this: https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/AudioSource-timeSamples.html

And then find the sample in the audio data: https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/AudioClip.GetData.html

[vague pier]

I am very confused. I have a few Item prefabs for my game and i have the unity version control enabled. For some reason, everytime i change something on 3 specific items, almost every time i launch the game in unity the prefabs reset back to what they were before. Even completely creating them anew doesnt help but its only with those specific 3 and i dont understand why

They also dont get automatically checked out if i change anything

but even manually checking them out doesnt change it

Could anyone help/explain why this is happening?

update i disconnected it from version control to see if its that but nope

[violet juniper]

Hi, I'm trying to write some tests for my code, but the editor doesn't seem to be able to create any test scripts anywhere, I always get the invalid path error.

I feel like I'm following the documentation, I create the test assembly director, but then when I go into the test runner and click create test script I always get an error

[keen dew]

Show the error message

[gentle trellis]

I'm trying to do a perspective change from front facing to back facing when the player enter this collider, how do I make it so it transition smoothly instead of instantaneous

[fallow knot]

hello guys, Why can't I find the playerprefs database in my browser (Chrome)? I know they work because I output their data to the console, but I can't find them in IndexedDB?

[rocky canyon]

typically i see people just use 2 seperate cams..
when u enable 1 disable the other it'll automatically do a transition (w/e set up on the brain)

ie. you could have 1 cam w/ a certain followTarget
you could have a 2nd cam w/ a different followTarget and just swap between the 2 cams instead of chnging out the followTarget

[gentle trellis]

oh you're right, thanks

[gentle trellis]

im trying to invert the movement by multiplying by -1 if it's enter the collider, it worked but how do I time it so it doesn't invert instantaneously

[grand snow]

Well currently does the inverting of input cause the player to leave very soon after entering this area?

[gentle trellis]

yea it does, I currently only inverts once enter

should adding a timer work?

[grand snow]

Perhaps yea when they exit the trigger it can be a delayed change (which you would want to cancel if they re enter the trigger again)

you could use a coroutine or async method to do this

[gentle trellis]

what's that? sorry I'm still a beginner so I have no idea..

[grand snow]

Id recommend a coroutine then, its a method that you can invoke and it can wait some time before doing something:
https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/Coroutines.html

private void IEnumerator SetInvertAfterDelay(Player player, float invert)
{
  yield return new WaitForSeconds(0.5f);
  if(player != null)
  {
    player.invert = invert;
  }
}

start with: StartCoroutine(SetInvertAfterDelay(player, 1f))

[gentle trellis]

thank you so muchh

[grand snow]

make sure to "cancel" the coroutine if the player re enters the trigger. the doc page i linked hopefully covers how to do that

[gentle trellis]

do you use blend tree?

[red igloo]

no

[gentle trellis]

okay then I have no idea 😅

sorry

[grand snow]

Does the "forward" dir of this object match the visuals of the object?

forward being Z+

[red igloo]

Never mind I think I am doing it wrong did a bit of researching and I should rotate the rigidbody with moveRotation instead of changing its transform

[grand snow]

So the issue was that it instantly changed? You didnt add anything to do that so what did you expect???

You can use Rotate towards to rotate over time to some target rotation easily (as you can call this every frame with your current "target rotation")

[red igloo]

no the issue was the player wasn't rotating it the movement of direction. now I am looking at unity discussions and I should rotate it with moveRotation instead

[grand snow]

I think you got lost during your search

Rigidbody.MoveRotation() is to change rotation using the rigidbody interpolation to help but this on its own wont fix the issue if your models "forward" does not match the visuals.

[tiny crag]

this isnt really about code but:
why is there not a color option in the camera inspector?

[grand snow]

but setting transform.forward as you were can work as long as the direction is world space

[grand snow]

the clear mode has to be changed to solid colour for it to appear

[tiny crag]

ty it was under environment --> background type

[grand snow]

well thats different

the scene BG and camera clear are related but not the same thing

anyway ask elsewhere in future

[tiny crag]

where?

[grand snow]

#1390346776804069396 ? #💻┃unity-talk ?

[tiny crag]

ok thx

[red igloo]

Thanks I fixed it. Also is this how you correctly rotate using moveRotation?

[grand snow]

Looks fine to me but I didn't really help did I 🫠

[rocky canyon]

looks good.. i like the 8-D movement

[red igloo]

how would I make the turning more smooth? should I use vector3.lerp?

or quanternion slerp/

[rocky canyon]

sure, or MoveTowards, SmoothDamp, etc

lots of ways to do it..

[grand snow]

What about what I mentioned above

[red igloo]

what did you say?

[grand snow]

#💻┃code-beginner message
Rotate towards is the way to go

[red igloo]

Like this?

[grand snow]

Yes. You can do degrees/Time.fixedDeltaTime to make it be degrees per second.

But should be working already

[hallow acorn]

hey, what would be the easiest way to make a countdown for a stamina bar, or a hunger bar for example?

[wintry quarry]

countdown? You mean a timer? Just a float and Time.deltaTime

it depends what part you mean exactly

the UI bit?

The actual timer logic?

[hallow acorn]

no ui isnt important rn its more of a hidden countdown for hunger etc which gradually gets smaller, depending what you do. so ill just subtract a multiplicator * time.deltaTime from my hunger efloat?

[wintry quarry]

It really depends

you said "depending what you do"

so sounds like you'd subtract from it in response to some actions by the player

[hallow acorn]

for example faster movement would use up more hunger

[wintry quarry]

it also depends on if these things are "continuous" actions ( like running) or one-off actions (like swinging an axe)

but it's really not complicated

stamina -= staminaCost; for one-offs
stamina -= staminaCostPerSecond * Time.deltaTime; for continuous actions

[hallow acorn]

its for little npc characters having random stats so some move faster then others etc. there arent really one-offs and i dont plan on implementing those

[gentle trellis]

I use Vector3.Slerp for a character that requires smooth rotation when moving, lerp would do the same thing as in the video.

[red igloo]

already fixed it!

[gentle trellis]

ohh great

[potent eagle]

I'm not sure why but my player keeps floating upwards every time I press play and begin to rotate or go forward. Is there something wrong with my code?

[rocky canyon]

or for a stamina/health setup theres a combo of the two

 private void HandleHungerTick()
        {
            tickTimer += Time.deltaTime;

            if (tickTimer >= tickInterval)
            {
                hunger -= hungerCostPerTick;
                tickTimer = 0f;
            }
        }```
like for example every 2 seconds it takes 5 from hunger
this means u have to go the full 2 seconds for a deduction to happen

[wintry quarry]

transform.Translate is based on your object's rotation

basically this will go forward in relation to where your object is facing. Which will start to be upwards as you rotate

[rocky canyon]

find it a cool mechanic from time to time.. (i like my status bars to have chunks to em)

[potent eagle]

Thank you for the help! I'll troubleshoot from here. 🙌

[red igloo]

How can I make my player move freely while in the air? I basically change the movement speed when in the air is that a no go?

[wintry quarry]

I mean looks like it already can based on this

[red igloo]

yes just a bit but I want to move a bit more

[wintry quarry]

then add more force

looks like you're doing a force-based or momentum based system

if you want faster acceleration you need more force

based on the simple F = ma equation

[rich cradle]

what do yall think is 2d or 3d who is the most easy for a now dev

[wintry quarry]

Alternatively you could switch away from a strictly physical force-based system and set the velocity more directly

[wintry quarry]

It really doesn't matter all that much

[rich cradle]

ok

[wintry quarry]

There are specific 3D game types that might be more complex - usually if you have complex 3D rotation involved like a spacship-flying game

but for most types of games, FPS or TPS for example, there aren't complex 3D rotations involved.

[gentle trellis]

start however you like

[rich cradle]

ok

[naive pawn]

and there are complex 2d things too!
2d vs 3d aren't harder or easier than each other - just different

[rich cradle]

i am thinking abut 3d

[rich cradle]

ok

[red igloo]

while in the air? this is what ive got : https://paste.ofcode.org/AU7ZBgxM4DZTLb8D8kN9kK

[wintry quarry]

Frankly your code is very simple, which leads to simplistic behavior.

If you want to do something very specific like "if I'm in the air and the player pushes their joystick in the opposite direction they're moving, I want them to be able to very quickly change directions" then you will have to write the code for that

e.g. psuedocode:

if (!grounded && horizontalInputDirection != currentHorizontalMovementDirection) {
  // do something special, either adding more force or instantly setting the velocity the other way, whatever you want
}```

[violet juniper]

this is the error i get

[hallow acorn]

void Update()
{
    CalculateHunger();
}

private void CalculateHunger()
{
    currentHunger -= speed * 0.1f * Time.deltaTime;
    if(currentHunger < hungerThreshold)
    {
        LookForFood();
    }
    if(currentHunger <= 0)
    {
        Die();
    }
    print(currentHunger);
}```
this code should count down to zero but it always stays at its default value whic is set before. can someone tell me why this happens?

[rich adder]

what is the value of speed and have you debugged that the code is running

[hallow acorn]

oh

havent actually asigned a value to speed this might be an issue 😅

[rich adder]

seems like it , anything * 0 is 0 🙂

[tough shard]

Hey everyone, could someone explain to how Resident Evil's signature movement works but in Dev terms?

[rich adder]

what is " Resident Evil's signature movement"

[tough shard]

I'm trying to recreate that slow, realistic movement but I don't know how I should go about it :/

[rich adder]

resident evil changed movement through the years

are you talking about tank controls ?

[tough shard]

The movement from Resident Evil Biohazard and Village, sorry I should've explained it better in the original message

[rich adder]

thats not "signature" movement , those are more contemporary movements

so like FPS movement you probably want to look into whatever first person tutorials cover this topic

what makes those really stand out is the good animations, like any other FPV game

[tough shard]

I mean making an FPS movement controller is just as simple as that, but getting that realistic feel is a different thing (Mainly talking about Camera and Perspective)

[tough shard]

So if I'm thinking correctly, they use something along the lines of a physics based camera? (Sorry I'm not that good with terms)

[rich adder]

not sure what you mean, what makes you think camera is physics based?

[tough shard]

Please bear with me, I'll try my best to explain.
So basically I'm saying that the camera moves with the player in a way that it would simulate real walking?

[rich adder]

mhm thats just animations selling the look, otherwise its pretty generic

things like swaying / bobbing are the terms you want to look into

[tough shard]

So to start, would you suggest I build the perfect player movement (To my taste) and then let Animations do the rest?

[rich adder]

pretty much

[tough shard]

Yes that! I was scared of using those 2 words because I thought they were wrong and would make me look stupid but yes, that's exactly what I was looking for!

[rich adder]

some games move the actual props you're holding, some sway the camera (some do both)

[sour fulcrum]

No one should want to perfect anything to start with though, systems like this are pretty iterative and a implementation in a game like RE is going to have a ton of time, experience and testing involved to make it that good, so don’t be too surprised if you end up short of that

[rich adder]

at the end of the day they have dozens of animators that know what they're doing to sell the realism . Strictly talking about the movement mechanics, they are pretty generic

[tough shard]

An example question: If IK is used (Imagine the player is a spider for simplicity). The camera would move alongside the rest of the bones, right? Which would simulate close to realistic perception?

[sour fulcrum]

Could be wrong but probably not tbh, that doesn’t sound like enough consistent control

[tough shard]

Things like rough surfaces would move the camera differently and so on. Purely because of how the physics are working on it

[rich adder]

I'm not an animator so I can't say for certain but you can get some decent results already just by parenting camera to moving bone but it might not be the control you're looking for

[tough shard]

Think of it like a gizmo perhaps? Don't know exactly how to explain it

[sour fulcrum]

The camera doesn’t have to be realistic, it has to feel realistic

[tough shard]

Okay that's a really great point

But yeah, so if I understand this correctly, I should focus on Swaying and Bobbing to get that slight realistic effect?

I mean to start it'll be simple, slowly changing to the style of the game

[sour fulcrum]

Sounds like a good route to down yeah. If your really serious about this might be worth looking for any available gdc-esque talks on this kind of thing or even finding similar games that have view bobbing or other relevant settings available so you can compare the difference

[elfin acorn]

Hi

[tough shard]

I'm sure there has to be alot of documentation on this style of realistic movement, correct?

[rich adder]

a little bit of sway goes a long away to make it feel less "stiff"

[sour fulcrum]

I would hope so but it can get dumb when your looking for actual industry discussion and resources, you can probably find good stuff

[tough shard]

I'm actually trying to make a survival horror game (Of course not as good as Resident Evil but I'll try). So yeah, I LOVE the new Resident Evil movement style, I'm stealing taking inspiration from it

[rich adder]

not a bad idea, the new Resident Evil def breathe new life into the game . Def brought the franchise back

[tough shard]

That but with a slowly sway speed (Maybe different bobbing values) would look amazing!

I also did find a FirstPersonMovement asset but then again, it only had bobbing and no sway, so it looked Stiff until I slowly changed around the X and Y values for camera bob

It got really close to what I was looking for at the moment but I'll be making my system instead

[rich adder]

yup exactly, like everything else it needs to be "tuned to taste" so keep iterating eventually you will get the look you want

[tough shard]

Thank you for helping! I'll get right to it

If this fails I can always go to a complete Resident Evil 5 style 😴

[violet juniper]

Help, I've been trying to create play mode tests for a week and i can't seem to understand why i can't do it

[rich adder]

play mode tests ?

[violet juniper]

for the code

[rich adder]

you mean like Unit test?

[violet juniper]

yeah

play mode tests are unit test which simulate the engine basically

[rich adder]

I know what unit tests are just didn't know the name " playmode tests" was a thing. maybe if you show the setup and explain a bit someone whats not working , someone might be able to chime in

[violet juniper]

Thanks, well

All i'm doing is I'm following the documentation on how to create tests and test assemblies

[rich adder]

alright, you need to give more info if someone is to attempt at all to help debug this

we are not mind readers

[violet juniper]

I have my scripts i want to test in a folder, then i created a test assembly folder through the asset section, then I told the created assembly file to reference the one in the script's folder, and finally i try to create a test script by selecting the test assembly file and using the test runner feature "create new test script" but I only get the "invalid generated unique path" error

[rich adder]

can you show the error and full stack for it

[violet juniper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/497874004401586176/1409212441040257034/image.png?ex=68ac8edb&is=68ab3d5b&hm=edec9658b1dbfc91fe249074cf04c633f5acd21d900a578bb6a7417148b89816&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=940&height=310

[neon forum]

Generally, for a turn based card game, should I use coroutines for things like turns and playing a card?

I'm not really getting into the specifics yet, only a general framework I should follow before I implement anything

[violet juniper]

I feel like main game logic can stay in the update function

[rich adder]

which version of unity are you using ?

[violet juniper]

coroutines seem like they would be useful for time sensitive things such as animations and effects

[violet juniper]

6.1

[rich adder]

up to you . coroutines can offer a good way to control the flow of time / events if needed

[neon forum]

I'm also coding this to be multiplayer(internet stuff), could I build a turn-based framework and then build the multiplayer on top of that or would that cause a mess?

[rich adder]

are you able to try unity 6.0 . just curious if this is some type of bug , i seen this error before

[rich adder]

You should usually make a networkgame with networking in mind during the structure, much more difficult to add the networking parts later on

[violet juniper]

how can i downgrade

[neon forum]

got it, well if that's the case I've already finished the non-networking parts(deck building), I guess I should add in the networking part now?

[rich adder]

dont. just install 6.0 aside

and try making the same code/ project
if its still bust its probably you did something wrong at some point

[neon forum]

How do I code with networking in mind? Is it like telling the game manager that there'll be a player 1 and player 2 but player 2 is a try/catch check for internet connection/lobby system?

[past yarrow]

why does it ask me to make that field static ? 🤔

[slender nymph]

you cannot access a non-static member in a static method (without an object reference)

[rich adder]

use the singleton for the manager

thats the whole point why Networkmanager has a singleton

its even in the documentation

wait wrong link

holy shit the new docs , are the old docs ...

[past yarrow]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.netcode.gameobjects@2.5/manual/tutorials/get-started-with-ngo.html#the-helloworldmanagercs-script I'm following the official Unity documentation, so it has an error ? 🤔

[rich adder]

I have no fucking idea why they changed that...or the docs..

[neon forum]

I feel like unity has a habit of doing that

[rich adder]

it literally was just NetworkManager.Singleton.StartServer() etc.

[past yarrow]

Well just under it they have the same snippet of code but with singleton 🤔

[rich adder]

I feel like thats cause they are not consistent on which employee work on it and it all gets lost in translation

[rich adder]

exactly my point

[sour fulcrum]

Theres so much more to it than that unfortunately, it’s a whole different mindset of composing code

[rich adder]

they changed the docs in such a haste they fucked everything up

[past yarrow]

where can we report that please ?

[rich adder]

at the bottom

all the legacy links I had for Netcode docs now link to the package docs 🙄

[neon forum]

okay but where do I start? Do I just read the unity manual and try to set up a dummy networking thing? And then after that have a wait until player A does a legal action and reflect over to the other player's monitor?

[rich adder]

https://web.archive.org/web/20240911210217/https://docs-multiplayer.unity3d.com/netcode/current/components/networkmanager/#starting-a-server-host-or-client

the old docs for netcode was better imo but alas we're back to the shit Docs unity has now for packages

[sour fulcrum]

Following the manual and doing super simple testing with just text is probably a good start

[neon forum]

so the link nav just posted?

[rich adder]

they mean just in general . Like the docs does have example on Ping message Pong back (RPC) example

knowing when to use NetworkVariable vs RPCs

shit like that is more important

[sour fulcrum]

Still can’t get over NetworkVariable OnValueChanged not firing when it syncs a pre-existing value

[rich adder]

how do you mean?

like initializing it ?

[sour fulcrum]

If a client joins a pre-existing session when they get the networkvariable values that doesn’t invoke the event on them

only if the value changes while they are in the session

[rich adder]

iirc on in networkspawn you usually want to do something like
MyValueChangedMethod(old , myNetval.value)

that tells connected client to sync the value

[sour fulcrum]

That’s a way to get around it but feels super jank and inconsistent

Makes getting comfortable with ngo a pain imo

[rich adder]

yeah that to me was a bit confusing for me as well

until i had to work with RPC params :X

the old method was easier than new one

[sour fulcrum]

Apparently IsOwner not being set yet in behaviours when OnNetworkSpawn spawn is run too feels hmm

[rich adder]

still , NetworkVariable still feel like cheating..

its almost too easy lol such things would be so difficult just dealing with just RPCs

[sour fulcrum]

99% of my time in ngo is on something with pretty much no networkvariable use

Pain

[silver fern]

I'm missing something obvious but not sure what. I have a BurnEffect object that inherits from a EffectObject object. The BurnEffect has a IEnumerator Coroutine. Can I make that coroutine accessible through EffectObject?

[rich adder]

accessible in what way? they are just methods, I don't see why not

as long as they are started on a MB

[silver fern]

when I try to check effect.EffectCoroutine, where effect is an EffectObject, it says EffectObject does not contain a definition for the coroutine

[rich adder]

if you want it on the parent EffectObject, shouldnt that be the one with coroutine instead of BurnEffect , or am I missing something.

[silver fern]

the different effects like BurnEffect, SlowEffect, etc all inherit from the EffectObject, but the coroutines are different, and not all of them have one

so I wanted to check if that Object has a coroutine and start it if yes

[rich adder]

hmm I suppose you need to give yourself some way to know it does

like a boolean or a more clever way