💻┃code-beginner

[red igloo]

so I shouldnt use joints?

[rocky canyon]

simpler.. i'll show u 1 sec

let me show u what i have and then u tell me if its something that ur after

[mystic ferry]

Ah no gifs.

[rocky canyon]

no rigidbodies involved except on the cube itself

[red igloo]

no thats not what im looking for

[rocky canyon]

no joints.. or anything else

[red igloo]

since my game is at a side view

[rocky canyon]

ohh well pooey!

ohh it still can work w/ side view

[rich adder]

idk i tried joint and works

[red igloo]

I will show you what im going for hold on

[rich adder]

just need to clean it up

you would prob need to lock rotation so it doesnt flip the player
I also had code to push rigidbodies it probably messed with the pull code

[red igloo]

@rocky canyon

https://streamable.com/cd3egz

[rocky canyon]

okay.. i tried lol

[mystic ferry]

There’s 100 solutions to everything.

[rocky canyon]

yessir

[red igloo]

I was looking for something like this

[rich adder]

how did you make this ?

[rocky canyon]

ohh okay i see

thats pretty fun lookin lmao

like that pick-axe climber game

w/ the offset mass

[mystic ferry]

It reminds me of Little Big Planet more.

[red igloo]

I just but the object in the fixed joint thats it

[red igloo]

thats what I was going for lmao

my fav game

[rich adder]

so thats a fixed joint

[rocky canyon]

ahh u shoulda led with that

yea, nav was right i was wrong 😢

[rich adder]

just gotta refine it a bit

[mystic ferry]

I had good times on it back in the day. You ever play the one with the whale and the boat?

[red igloo]

I hate sony for killing sackboy and replacing it with a shitty white blue eyed robot

[rich adder]

little big planet 1 was peak

[rocky canyon]

lmao the way ur character leans backwards

[rich adder]

i bought a ps3 just for it

[red igloo]

PEAK

[rocky canyon]

thats epic

[rich adder]

*lean back * lean back *

[red igloo]

the servers for both 1 and 2 are up with loads of players

custom servers on their discord

[rich adder]

yeah wish they would've me a good pc port

with like Steam community / workshop

[mystic ferry]

They don’t make children’s games like they used to.

[red igloo]

i got news for you...

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[rich adder]

blasphemy how dare you call LBP a children game lol

[mystic ferry]

🤷‍♂️

I mean that’s not a bad thing.

[red igloo]

Better watch out how you talk about PEAK

any ways should I not use fixed joint?

one person is saying yes the other no

[red igloo]

just like you see here this is EXACLY how I want it but I want the button to grab it E

[mystic ferry]

Are you using the input system or just doing it the old fashioned way?

[simple vine]

guys how do i add minigames to my project because its very short and i need minigames for players to play without just leaving so does someone know how to make minigames

[mystic ferry]

Can you be more specific? Cause like a mini game is just a simple game. Like how are you implementing mini games?

[simple vine]

like i want to add 3 mini games

the first one is like a memory game

[cosmic dagger]

It's the same as creating a feature. you just build it and activate it when necessary . . .

[simple vine]

and like a red light green light

and i got no clue for the 3rd

[red igloo]

old input system

[simple vine]

also how do i get rid of a background

[ruby python]

Pwease? lol.

[red igloo]

should I use a ray cast to check if the object has the "Pull" tag? The objects that I want to pull are tagged Pull

[mystic ferry]

Looking at the documentation it looks like you need to use the fixed joint. I think that’s what Nav used in their video. https://docs.unity3d.com/2020.1/Documentation/Manual/class-FixedJoint.html

I can’t give you any examples right now cause I’m on my phone but they seem simple to use. If you read up on its documentation or watch a youtube video you will be able to learn how to implement it.

[mystic ferry]

Yeah that sounds good.

[red igloo]

Thats what im doing im going to use fixed joint

[red igloo]

should I cast it on all sides of the player?

[rocky canyon]

u could.. or u could put it w/e side it needs to be on

[mystic ferry]

Yeah I was gonna say that. You could also use a trigger box collider on the box that makes some bool true and that means you can grab it.

Sounds like some math to me.

[ruby python]

I might be missing something, but why Raycasting? why not simple colliders?

[ruby python]

Oh yeah I know, I'm not sure where or what to look for. lol.

[rocky canyon]

either or work.. some ppl prefer raycasting

me for one.. i dont like having colliders scattered about that i need to keep track of..
esp if they'll be some thats not even used unless at specific times/directions

[ruby python]

Okay, yeah, was just a little confused is all. lol. And yeah, that makes sense.

[mystic ferry]

You won’t believe what I just found.

https://learn.unity.com/tutorial/calculating-trajectories

[rocky canyon]

lol.. ur supposed to already know that..

thats basic HS stuff 😛

[ruby python]

Hmmm ?

[rocky canyon]

well the code/API stuff i guess not

but the math! yes lol

[ruby python]

Dude, I haven't been to high school in 32 years and not done that stuff since then. lol.

[simple vine]

guys how do i add a memory game

[mystic ferry]

This tutorial sounds like exactly what you’re looking for.

[simple vine]

who

[mystic ferry]

The purple guy.

[ruby python]

Yeah I'm looking through it now, thank you. I wasn't sure on what to search for mainly. lol.

[simple vine]

ok

[mystic ferry]

I don’t know what you have in mind but all you have to do is come up with some random values and save it and if the player is able to input those same values then they win.

[simple vine]

how i no clue how do that

[ruby python]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCWUJEVnd08

First google result.

[cosmic dagger]

You need to look at what a memory game consists of, then work on creating all of those individual parts. Next, look at the steps taken to play the game, and again, work on creating each of those individual parts . . .

[red igloo]

when I use fixed joint why can't my player move?

[simple vine]

is that 3D

[cosmic dagger]

Also, there are tons of tutorials online for how to make this type of game. pick one and give it a try . . .

[ruby python]

No idea, but memory games are pretty much all about the coding, the visuals are the easy part.

[simple vine]

its not just starting with the memory game im getting it so you go throught it whlie playing

[mystic ferry]

How much programming do you know?

[simple vine]

i started like 2 days ago so like 0.0001

[mystic ferry]

Yeah that explains it. You gotta learn about the basics like what variables are, methods, data types, if statements and the whole shabang.

Also when you use tutorials it’s important to make sure you understand what they’re doing and not just copying code. So next time you don’t need to come back.

[wild island]

Is there any point to profiling in the editor? My script runs like 4x faster in build

[simple vine]

and this is what i want it to look like so it will be even more harder because the after they done i want it to apper when they complete the mini game and if they fail i want them to fall to the void and die

[mystic ferry]

What is a patton bored?

[cosmic dagger]

You profile when you come across optimization problems, or when you want to test which solution saves time (faster) or uses less memory . . .

[simple vine]

what they need to press like yellow,purple,green

[wild island]

I'm a unity and C# noob, but for example in C++ you never profile in debug builds, because they are slower
Maybe it's just my project, but it seems like running in the editor is always slower, making profiling results invalid

[red igloo]

when I use a fixed joint why cant I move?

[rocky canyon]

not sure.. is it anchored to anyhing static?

[red igloo]

no

[deft loom]

Is it fesaible to think that I could gain a similar performance boost to occlusion culling programatically by setting SetActive true/false for each gameobject based on it's distance to the player? It sounds like it'd work but before I start trying to implement it I just am hoping someone can give me a sanity check lol

[mystic ferry]

His ball moves by rotating I think so maybe it’s because the box is stopping its rotation.

[mystic ferry]

My gut tells me no.

But maybe.

I don’t know.

[cosmic dagger]

It is slower because the editor is open to display the scene and inspector. Build will (should) always be faster, but you can still compare results, especially when attempting to eliminate gc allocs. Creating a build to run and constantly test that—and other perf issues—wastes a lot of time . . .

[red igloo]

what box?

https://streamable.com/tszvpe

literally cannot move

[rocky canyon]

put the ball into the connected RIgidbodySlot

[red igloo]

it wont let me

why would I put the player in there?

[wild island]

I'm specifially measureing the time for a pathfinding method, at it goes from 10ms in the editor to ~3ms in build though

[rocky canyon]

to check if ur player moves that way 😄

just basic troubleshooting.. more info = more better

with a 2D fixed joint it doesn't seem to have taht issue

[red igloo]

it wont let me put it in the slot

[rich adder]

did you do anything on the rigidbody

[red igloo]

of the player?

[rich adder]

ya

[red igloo]

nope

[wild island]

I'm experienced with reading c++ disassembly, so ideally I'd like to inspect the machine code that's actually running, so I can judge if there is anything unexpected?
No idea how that works with C# code though 😦

[cosmic dagger]

That's good. I definitely would check for the speed in the editor and game. If you don't see an issue on the build, you're fine, but if you want to make it faster or produce less gc, you have a base speed of 10 ms to compare to . . .

[rocky canyon]

may want to leave the fixedjoint disabled until u need it

[rich adder]

oh thats weird

[cosmic dagger]

I believe there are some online websites that will display the IL instructions. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a method to do so from Unity . . .

[red igloo]

why does the 2D one work but not this one??

[rich adder]

maybe because I add it at runtime I didnt notice

[rocky canyon]

it DIDNT at first if u watch

i had to assign the rigidbody of the player

but thats when i realized its probably better to just leave it disabled

until u need to use it

[opaque canopy]

yoo @rocky canyon

[rocky canyon]

b/c it gives an error

[opaque canopy]

@red igloo, hello

[red igloo]

why doesnt mine work?

[rocky canyon]

are u trying to add the Player -> the same object the rigidbody is on?

[opaque canopy]

what's up @rocky canyon

[rocky canyon]

disable it and try moving around..

and then add the thing u want to drag and then re-enable and try to move

[rich adder]

 if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.E))
        {
            if (joint != null)
            {
                Destroy(joint);
                joint = null;
                return;
            }
            var hitz = Physics.OverlapSphereNonAlloc(transform.position, 1, hits, hitlayers);
            for (int i = 0; i < hitz; i++)
            {
                if (hits[i].TryGetComponent(out Rigidbody rb))
                {
                    joint = gameObject.AddComponent<FixedJoint>();
                    joint.connectedBody = rb;
                }
            }
        }
    }```

[rocky canyon]

^ see it takes a little hands-on

[rich adder]

its very important you lock the rotations btw

i forgot to do that in code but did it in the inspector
this prevents the picked up box to do anything to the original holder

[wild island]

That's good. I definitely would check

[rich adder]

box ^

[rocky canyon]

^ box

lol.. tomato tomato

[rich adder]

ngl this mechanic is kinda smooth

[rocky canyon]

i like my raycast one

b/c i had to write it 😄

[rich adder]

raycast good too, i just got lazy and did a catch-all sphere xD

probably not the best if you got rigidbodies above yourhead..

[red igloo]

BRO this is soo confusing why can't I move??

[rich adder]

did you remove the fixed joint?

[red igloo]

I even restarted unity to see if it worked

[red igloo]

yes then I added it back still does not work

[rich adder]

process of elimination, start disabling / enabling stuff to see

[rocky canyon]

disable the joint! and re-enable it only when u need it..
aka.. *try adding ur box into the connected RIgidbody before u play)

and see if u can move that way ^

[rich adder]

yup ^

you can see in my code I dont even have it there, I just add it at runtime

[rocky canyon]

it doesn't allow u to move with an empty joint..

it basically locks u onto the ground

[red igloo]

what? so I should only enable it when I press e on the box?

[rocky canyon]

yes.. watch ^ same thing happens to nav's i bet too

when theres no rigidbody assigned and its enabled.. ur not moving..

but if u have an object slotted in there.. and enabled you can

[red igloo]

alright I will just only enable it when I pull objects then

[rocky canyon]

ya, i think its just a weird quirk of the physics engine

[simple vine]

im back

[rocky canyon]

w/o a rigidbody slotted in there.. it just knows ur connected a fixed joint? but fixed to wat?

i gess it just fixes u to the scene in general

[rich adder]

mine doesnt but only because the original is not a rigidbody but cc

i think

[simple vine]

can someone help me with making a memory game and making the platfrom disapper and the after they done it apper when they complete it

[rocky canyon]

ahh yeae thats y i tested with my 2d project b/c it uses rigidbody physics

[rich adder]

idk i had fixed joint on moving objects b4 but didnt affect their movement but that was transform movement btw

[rocky canyon]

my 3d uses CC too so culdnt test accurately

but was it fixed to a child of the rigidbody?

mine works when i fix it to myself..

but unity biches

[rich adder]

nah yeah you dont wanna put your own rigidbody in the slot itself lol

[rocky canyon]

u can move b/c ur translating thru the physics

f*** u physics.. im moving anyway

[rich adder]

teleport at its finest

[rocky canyon]

thats how my Physics Pickup mechanic i showed off earlier works

🤫 dont tell anyone

it works pretty well even against walls and stuff

[median hatch]

hey does anyone know how to fix "failed clustering job" when baking lights in unity? im using HDRP

[rocky canyon]

so until it doesn't imma keep it lol

[rocky canyon]

#archived-hdrp

or #archived-lighting

[red igloo]

the FixedJoint does not have an enabled property so how would I enable/disable?

[median hatch]

thanks

[rich adder]

mate.

did you verify thats the issue tho

did you move object without it

[red igloo]

without the fixed joint?

[rich adder]

correct

to narrow down that is indeed holding player movement somehow ?

[red igloo]

yes I can move the object around without fixed joint but when I add it back I can no longer move

[rich adder]

ok

so add it at runtime like I did

its because yours is a rigidbody so a fixed joint also stops the parent/root of fixedjoint

mine was a character controller so even if i leave it on empty, it doesnt affect it

[rocky canyon]

or springJoint.spring = 0;
springJoint.damper = 0; might be able to set ur spring to 0

[rich adder]

either way its better to add it via code

[rocky canyon]

id try that anyway if ur locked while movement.. it may be a work-around

[rich adder]

runtime addcomponent should work out tbh

[rocky canyon]

imma open my 3d rigidbody project

[rich adder]

this way you know exactly when something is picked up too. #💻┃code-beginner message
easy drop and pickup mechanic in a few extra lines

[rocky canyon]

ya, adding and removing the entire component makes sense tbh

now im interested in why 2D joint has .enabled but 3D doesnt

[mystic ferry]

Because Unity.

[rocky canyon]

i mean.. ur not wrong lol

[mystic ferry]

Can’t wait for 4D joints.

[rocky canyon]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[rich adder]

makes sense since they are different engines

they work different

[mystic ferry]

Then 5D joints with multiversal time travel. I heard unreal has those.

[rich adder]

2D kinematics have velocity and can move with it, Rigidbody3d cannot

[rocky canyon]

yup that tracks

[simple vine]

can someone help me with making a memory game and making the platfrom disapper and the after they done it apper when they complete it

[rich adder]

what exactly are we supposed to do with this image dude

[mystic ferry]

You really have to go and learn the basics man.

[simple vine]

how idk how too

[median hatch]

you mean animated? if so i'd recommend a package like dotween or leantween

[simple vine]

you aint reading what i said

[median hatch]

easier to manage

[rich adder]

thats why its called Learning

[simple vine]

i want to make it like a menmory one not animted

[median hatch]

then i dont know what you mean at all

sorry

[rocky canyon]

public GameObject urThingUWantToDisable;

urThingUWantToDsiable.SetActive(false);```

[rich adder]

like a memory one and not animated, what that even mean..

[simple vine]

i want to make an memory minigame

[rocky canyon]

you'll probably need a gamemanager.. keeping up with states..

[median hatch]

i'd check the basics if i were you

[rich adder]

you want to make a minigame when you can't even make the entire game

[median hatch]

otherwise you won't be able to explain what your problem is

[rocky canyon]

• Move has begun
• Move in progress
• Move Finished

then when MoveFinished -> disable the gameobject or UI/Image or w/e it is

[simple vine]

yeah 🙂

[simple vine]

what basic

[median hatch]

unity and coding basics

[mystic ferry]

I’m sure there are tons of resources you can find to teach you Unity or even videos from people of how they used Unity. Because if you went and learnt the basics all this would start to make sense how to do with minimal help.

[rich adder]

how? you need to understand basic concepts like state tracking, and references to store objects in variables to compare

[simple vine]

videos yeah there is none

[simple vine]

yeah

[mystic ferry]

What do you mean?

[median hatch]

cant tell if youre trolling or not at this point

[rocky canyon]

my routine playlist drop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCGBMmMOFw

[rich adder]

yeah what? until you learn those explaining anything else will be useless

[rocky canyon]

basics ^

[simple vine]

idk what to say

[simple vine]

i meant the edited

[median hatch]

go learn the basics then come back

[rich adder]

idk what to tell you . I don't got time to babysit. see ya

[simple vine]

how there is none to learn when i dont have a video

[rich adder]

https://learn.unity.com/pathways

plenty of videos there

[mystic ferry]

You have Google yes?

[simple vine]

thx

okay how do i get the basics one

theres about 5

[rich adder]

Essentials -> Junior etc.

[simple vine]

this

https://learn.unity.com/pathway/junior-programmer

[rich adder]

correct

[simple vine]

ok

[rich adder]

this will get you familiar with the basics

then check out https://learn.unity.com/project/beginner-gameplay-scripting after

[red igloo]

Is this script good?

https://paste.ofcode.org/nvWYi2pAyLsXdrpFWxhMjJ

[rich adder]

did you try it

[red igloo]

yes it works

[rich adder]

looks ok script wise

[red igloo]

I dont know why I didn't think of that lol

phew

[night quest]

is there a way using clientRPC for the host to sent a movement input to a client that will move the client because my implemenmtation the client receives the input and does nothing with it

[rich adder]

if you send an clientRPC it will move clients

unless you target a specific playerId

also #archived-networking

[night quest]

ok thanks ill give it a go again

[rich adder]

cause normally you send a ServerRPC
ServerRPC is telling the server " I want to run this code"

[mystic ferry]

Is networking hard? I don’t know the first thing about it and I plan to add it to my game at some point in the future but I’ve heard it’s not a good idea to add it mid development but I’d rather have a semi video game before I dive into it.

[rich adder]

its vastly more diffcult to add networking mid-project / after the fact yes

[night quest]

from my experience it is hard but this has helped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yuBOB3VrCk

[rich adder]

building for a planned multiplayer scenario is much easier

[rich adder]

ehhh not the greatest

[mystic ferry]

Well whatever doesn’t kill me will make me stronger. 🤷‍♂️

[night quest]

if you recommend something else id be very happy

[rich adder]

the netcode documentation is surprisingly very good

the example projects need work, things like boss room are good but they are far too complex

[mystic ferry]

If I had a nickel for every time someone told me not to use Code Monkey/Youtuber tutorials in a Discord I’d have a good chunk change.

[rich adder]

well yeah there is a reason for that..

[mystic ferry]

I just joined this one today though but the people in the Unity Developer Community Discord have told me that.

[rich adder]

I dont mind, its whatever to me, it doesnt affect me at the end of the day.
To me its the claim of "clean code" is cringe af and selling whoring their lessons thing every 5 mins is also annoying

[night quest]

im trying for example from the host to press T for example which would affect the movement of a client giving a boost or smth and the same in reverse

so would serverRPC be better, or would i need both to send inputs both ways around

[mystic ferry]

Yeah I noticed that except dev log videos, a lot of game dev videos want you to buy their course.

[rich adder]

well Id use a network variable there so I'd use serverRPC to get server to change my value

[red igloo]

how do I make slippery slopes? so when I go on it my ball rolls down

[rich adder]

correct. They whore themselves out... I just make mine for fun when I can and just enjoy someone learning a new thing as I have

[mystic ferry]

Probably just change the drag values on the Rigidbody when your on the slope. Or you can apply opposite force.

[rich adder]

You'd probably need to raycast the normal of the surface you're on, and do some extra math there with it applying extra force down

[timber tide]

physics materials can help here too

[mystic ferry]

I forgot about those.

[rich adder]

oh yeah this is a rigidbody after all. I was doing it with CC and its a bit more involved since we cannot use physics material there

[mystic ferry]

My favorite tutorial channel is llamacademy. Not trying to sell you anything just straight to the point, informative and positive energy. He’s got a video on almost anything.

Also a very small channel.

[rich adder]

I can appreciate a few like llamacademy

Jason Weimann was also good too

I learned a lot from him when i started

git-amend is someone I recently also enjoy some of their content

[mystic ferry]

Nice.

This is a corny joke but I would’ve named myself Weimann.JSON.

[rich adder]

I bet the jokes were there in his team

we gonna send this to JSON

oh wimann ?

nahhh like actual Text json

[mystic ferry]

Badum tss

Not to brag but I’m also just as famous as him. I got my first itch.io follower. Yeah I’m kind of a big deal.

[edgy sand]

I am currently trying to make a card game following a tutorial by Sinuous, however I am tweaking things as I go to fit my needs. The current problem I have is that the way this is made is through a grid system, and I'm trying to move a card onto the grid. I can pick up the card, move it, and drop it, it registers the correct grid, but instead of putting it onto the grid (picture 1) it puts it onto the smaller grid (picture 2 and 3) located in the center of the world, not the canvas.

private void HandlePlayState()
{
    rectTransform.localPosition = playPosition;
    rectTransform.localRotation = Quaternion.identity;

    if (!Input.GetMouseButton(0))
    {
        Ray ray = Camera.main.ScreenPointToRay(Input.mousePosition);
        RaycastHit2D hit = Physics2D.Raycast(ray.origin, ray.direction);
        if (hit.collider != null && hit.collider.GetComponent<GridCell>())
        {
            GridCell cell = hit.collider.GetComponent<GridCell>();
            Vector2 targetPos = cell.gridIndex;
            if (gridManager.AddObjectToGrid(gameObject, targetPos))
            {
                HandManager handManager = FindAnyObjectByType<HandManager>();
                handManager.cardsInHand.Remove(gameObject);
                handManager.UpdateHandVisuals();
                Destroy(gameObject);
            }
            TransitionToState0();
        }
    }


    glowEffect.SetActive(false);
    rectTransform.localScale = originalScale;
}```
This code is what I'm using to move it

If more info is needed just let me know

[median hatch]

wouldnt it be easier to have preset UI images instead?

then just switch the sprite with whatever card you select

[edgy sand]

Nice PFP btw

And wdym?

[median hatch]

oh lmao

you can achieve this by having buttons

[rocky canyon]

ohh gameplay in the Canvas 👀 . that oughta be fun

[median hatch]

super fun

xD

[edgy sand]

I can't say hmm?

What?

[median hatch]

but i was able to pull it so

if i can he can

[rocky canyon]

i stick with SpriteRenderers and World-space with ortho cam for gameplay

assigning the correct positions w/ recttransforms be a headache

[rich adder]

nightmares..

switch canvases oh what a nightmare.. parenting

[rocky canyon]

yea.. i felt the same

[edgy sand]

I'm gonna need a bit dumbed down since this is my first foray into 2d game design and I thought this tutorial was good lol

[rocky canyon]

UI should be for displaying Information to the player..

[median hatch]

my idea would be to just have empty framed sprites, then do coding to select a card and place it in one of those empty sprites, switching empty sprite for selected card

is this a bad method?

[rocky canyon]

u instantly complicate things when u make UI/Canvas part of the gameplay loop

[median hatch]

i see

[mystic ferry]

Tsk tsk tsk

[edgy sand]

The way it works right now is I have card prefabs that have their own canvas that they print on, and I move that around to interact with them. If I'm understanding this correctly I should restart and not do that, and instead do... Something?

[median hatch]

multiple canvas sounds like hell

[edgy sand]

I mean it was making sense right up until now lol

[median hatch]

someone is more experienced than me, but what suits me is having one canvas for all the cards placed and have a manager deal with that

[edgy sand]

A manager does deal with them

[rich adder]

its is but sometimes necessary

[median hatch]

you make a list with all the cards youre currently holding

and a list with all the empty slots on the board

[edgy sand]

There's a Game manager object/script that controls most things, such as the list that you just mentioned

[rocky canyon]

theres pro's and con's to both solutions..

[median hatch]

thats good then

[rocky canyon]

as always 😭 theres not just 1 way lol

[rich adder]

tbh the only reason why I use UI is because it scales with Screen

[rocky canyon]

mmh im thinking about particles and stuff..

it'd be so much easier for visual stuff to be world-space

[median hatch]

tried it once never again

[rocky canyon]

lol

[rich adder]

we got particles working before iirc

[rocky canyon]

did u know..
fun fact: anytime u make a change to a UI element

the entire Canvas must be updated and redrawn

^ thats why i use 2d sprites

[median hatch]

yea but i dont think he needs optimization tips right now

[edgy sand]

I mean that makes sense for high-cost stuff, but is it really that bad to do it for a small card game?

Yea

[swift crag]

well, the canvas has to re-draw every frame anyway :p

but it does require an update whose cost is proportional to the amount of stuff in the canvas

[edgy sand]

There's not gonna be much on it

[rich adder]

particles on UI using splines as paths too IIRC #archived-code-general message

[edgy sand]

Like the max I'm looking at right now is like 10 cards and a few ui elements

[swift crag]

I noticed that I was losing a few ms per frame when I had every single single submenu open during a transition

i no longer do that

[median hatch]

you should be fine

unless youre someone trying to make a massive game optimization shouldnt be a problem

especially with 2D

[edgy sand]

Ok good, so is there a solution for my problem that doesn't require a complete restart and recode of the project?

[swift crag]

your main concern should be making something that works (:

[rich adder]

its also about the size of your textures

[median hatch]

depends on what you got so far

[rocky canyon]

there always is..

[edgy sand]

That's the goal lol

[median hatch]

that grid cell code you showed look like an headache

[rich adder]

sprites you can get much higher quality with meshes also get more shader benefits

[edgy sand]

Smol, very small and simple

[rich adder]

heartstone is entirely done with meshes / sprite

but if you see original cards they are huge

[swift crag]

we definitely do not need to be fussing over VRAM usage right now, lol

[edgy sand]

Seeing as I don't have an artist and probably won't for a long time, the high quality and shaders won't be a problem for like a year plus

[swift crag]

You appear to be mixing UI and non-UI objects here

[rich adder]

yeah its more than fine

[edgy sand]

Yes, I do think I am

[swift crag]

You'll want to have an image that displays the grid, rather than a sprite renderer

[edgy sand]

Now we're getting somewhere lol

[swift crag]

the rest of your logic should be pretty darn similar

[median hatch]

my recommendation is to have a canvas for the cards you're holding + cards in the board, reference all those cute images into a list and go from there

grid cell i'd scratch

but if you wanna keep grid cell then go for it

also once youre a bit more ahead you can even add some animations with dotween or leantween

[median hatch]

with this shouldnt be too hard

[rocky canyon]

or primetween..

[median hatch]

or secondtween...

[edgy sand]

With the rate this is taking I'll have animations in about a month at the earliest lol

[median hatch]

are you using scriptable objects?

[edgy sand]

So display the grid as an image on the canvas and then get the position of the image?

[edgy sand]

Yes, all the cards are scriptable objects

[edgy sand]

And would generating the grid as different images work the same way more or less so I can just switch out the way I'm displaying it?

[swift crag]

I see two good reasons to have one Image component per grid cell

one -- that lets you add or remove cells easily

two -- that makes it very easy to figure out where to put the cards!

[rich adder]

the layout groups were very handy for me

I used all 3 for different stack modes i needed

huge drawback of grid layout, or any group is having to mess with child ordering

[edgy sand]

Nice! Thank you!

[prime cobalt]

My game has an comic book page filter over it in the ui and I'd like to get it to turn alongside the players head so it doesn't just sit there unmoving like gunk on a visor. Any advice for how to do that?

[rich adder]

world canvas

ScreenSpace - Camera could also work iirc that was the initial purpose was so you can rotate it like a physical obj w cam

[prime cobalt]

World space would just make it like a screen in the world though right? The effect I'm looking to create is more like an objective marker in 3d space, but it smoothly transitions around the screen to always fill it up. A certain part of it is anchored to a direction and it moves to always have that part of the filter over that direction, with the actual filter always being totally flat.

[olive charm]

how can i detect if a specific object touched specific object?

[rocky canyon]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Collider.OnCollisionEnter.html

Notes: Collision events are only sent if one of the colliders also has a non-kinematic rigidbody attached.

[olive charm]

thanks!

[rich adder]

do you have an example maybe ?

you can potentially use scriptable renderer feature or vfx graph. really need more info

[prime cobalt]

...not really, im sorry. It's kind of a really specific effect. It's like the filter moves in a 2d plane, only able to move up and down, and it moves with the camera in the 3d environment just without any depth. For example if you look left it'll move right in your display an equal amount so what was the left side of the filter is now the center. If you look up it'll move down in your display. But if you walk forward it won't grow. No depth.

Also if you keep spinning the filter keeps scrolling forever.

[compact lodge]

So I'm working on a dungeon crawler of sorts in Unity (Where the player moves through tiles), and I'm wondering why when I set the smooth transition variable to "true" it results in the player controller moving in place

[grand snow]

Ideally the effect would be applied in shader instead for the objects. You can still adjust the x/y offset for this in the UI (use raw texture instead) based on the look dir to make it "move"

[compact lodge]

Fixed that one issue, turns out that I had the position updating in the wrong place.

[prime cobalt]

Seems like this worked for the most part, thanks!

[drifting tree]

does anyone know what would cause sprite animations to not render properly in build when it works perfectly in editor? even in the build, console is showing that the sprites are correctly transitioning according to the animator but it's just not displaying correctly

[wintry quarry]

What components did you use here?

Is this a SpriteRenderer, or a UI image or something

[drifting tree]

SpriteRenderer on the character

and it's animated using animation clips + the animator

[wintry quarry]

you have something weird going on - hard to say what exactly

can you show your camera inspector?

[void dawn]

can anyone tell me how to make enemy ai in unity ?

[keen cargo]

your question is too vague for anyone to be able to help you

[wintry quarry]

No, because "enemy ai" is extremely vague. It could mean anything from a Souls-like fighting character to a rapping robot that writes diss tracks.

[rich adder]

"You just got skooled by LyricBattleBot3000. Try again"

[keen cargo]

plus making enemy ai is a whole job field, it's like asking a math teacher "can you teach me math"

[compact lodge]

In the context of a turn based RPG with separate exploration and battle segments, how would I handle the transition between exploration and battle.

[rich adder]

in what sense?

[wintry quarry]

A pretty common/simple approach is to use additive scene loading.

Have the exploration scene loaded at all times and when you enter a battle, additively load the battle scene. Then you can easily unload the battle scene and you'll be right where you left off in the exploration scene

[compact lodge]

Like how exploration is it's own thing, but then when you go into battle, it has different mechanics and it's in a separate area.

[wintry quarry]

you just need to make sure you disable any scripts in the exploration scene related to movement etc when the battle is happening.

[rich adder]

yea multiscene would also be how I would do it, maybe some sort of enum that can track when you're in the exploration vs battlemode. This Event can be listened to toggle your scripts

[compact lodge]

Yeah I was planning on using an enum to store the game state (exploration, battle, outside segment). I just was unsure on how to approach switching. Thanks, I'll look into the additive scene loading.

[rich adder]

might need to keep a few singletons handy to maybe tell exploration world I killed this enemy so it doesn't popup a battle scene again

scene A will know nothing about scene B unless you pass that data around

[drifting tree]

any ideas? it's just the weirdest issue ever since the animation defaults to whatever the first one is and then distorts it

[wintry quarry]

looks like some kind of weird scaling issue, that's all I can say

[mystic ferry]

Assertion failed on expression: 'm_ChannelAccessLeaseEndTime > 0.0'

I get this error every time I open any unity project empty or not. I'm not sure what it means and it doesn't break anything but I'm still curious as to what this is.

[teal viper]

Is there more details or a callstack?

[mystic ferry]

That's literally all it gives me.

[frosty hound]

According to Google it is somehow related to Collaborate. Are you on an old version of Unity?

[mystic ferry]

2020.3 LTS

[frosty hound]

Yeah, that's old. Open your package manager and remove the Unity Collaborate (or whatever it was called back then) package.

[mystic ferry]

I've never used collaboration though so not sure how that happened. It also looks like I don't have any packages about collaborate.

[wintry quarry]

The Version Control package is built in to all new Unity projects

used to be called unity-collab-proxy or something though

[mystic ferry]

Oh so this?

Remove it?

[wintry quarry]

if you're not using it

You may also want to consider updating all those

also making sure you're on the latest minor version

[mystic ferry]

Yeah thanks I'll do that now.

[prime cobalt]

Does anyone have any idea why as soon as the camera holder's rotation enters the negatives with -0.1 the final output of rotationX in the UV rect just becomes -14.396 for some reason? After the random 14.396 gets subtracted when it enters the negatives all of the values add to rotationX like they should, but they're just adding to that -14.396. And I confirmed that there's nothing off about the camera holder's rotation.

[leaden shard]

Hey guys open question I learnt c++ up until the object-oriented programming section. Would c# start to make more sense to me. Whats the best way to learn c#

[wintry quarry]

C# is object oriented

But any programming is better than no programming

[reef bluff]

make a game that you want...?

also am I dumb or am I dumb

for any tutorial on grappling hooks I see this shlt

this does not work cuz the min and max distance is relative to the starting distance

so this code is essentially doubling the distance of the grappler and adding lots of leeway

is this intentional?

[rich adder]

joy of magic numbers

[rich adder]

also where you getting doubling from ?

times anything < 1 gives you smaller number than original, not double

ex. if distance is 3
max Is at 2.4
min is 0.75
add those up and you pretty much get almost 3

i guess its trying to do this. W spelling error

[reef bluff]

Yes but in the documentation for max distance it is the extra distance an object can go relative to how long the spring joint was upon creation

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/SpringJoint-maxDistance.html

It’s extra distance, so you are only making the joint longer by setting it

That’s why I don’t get it cuz it’s like they didn’t read the documentation and thought it was the length of the rope itself

Cuz if that was the case then the code makes sense but it’s not

[rich adder]

Ohhh okay, I see what you mean now

i always assumed it was the max length

[reef bluff]

ye I ran into this issue cuz I was trying to make a grappler that retracts

so I tried subtracting the maxdistance but that doesn't do anything

rn I'm epxerimenting with pulling the anchor position in instead

[rich adder]

I think thats what i did with one of my project

I can double check

[reef bluff]

Ye if you can that would be great

Right now it feels rly robotic

[rich adder]

ahh i was in 2d

2d only had .distance
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/SpringJoint2D-distance.html

[reef bluff]

Ye that has a distance variable

Only the 2D one

Hella annoying

[rich adder]

it was much easier, all i did to come back up / down was shifting distance

[reef bluff]

Ye I wish it was like that in 3D, oh well I’ll try messing around with the dampening and see if I can make it feel ok

[rich adder]

yeah 3d gets weird..

[timber tide]

bonk

x 3

[rich adder]

playing with connected anchor is better than spring amnt

[muted gyro]

if u know java, c# is basically the same thing

and dictionaries are hashmaps

thats all u have to know imo

(if u know java)

[reef bluff]

Ye I kind of got it working by modifying the connected anchor position, my issue now is that the player can turn corners and gain like way more speed than they are supposed to

I think it’s cuz like the connected anchor is both rotating around the corner and getting closer to the wall and so there’s a huge speed boost there, conservation of momentum blah blah blah…

Issue is you can’t limit speed while connected to a joint but I’ll figure something out

[rich adder]

you might if clamp velocity but depends.. let me know how that goes though

[grand snow]

nothing you have shown explains this. You should attach a debugger to investigate furthur (or add debug logs)

[fleet venture]

How do i scale a parent without also scaling its children?

[slender nymph]

scale the children in the opposite direction or don't make them children of the object being scaled

[fleet venture]

ah okay

ty

opposite direction worked

diff question, how would i make the diagnal scaling work? i want it to scale but keep the ratio the same so always a 1, 1 scale ratio. I got the code working but i cant seem to get the math right to get the distance to the pink thing WITH a sign. i can get the distance but it will never be negative

[echo ruin]

Do you mean as scaling equally in X and Y?

[fleet venture]

yes

i do

and i got the code down except for getting like the mouse position relative to the diagnal thing

[echo ruin]

There’s a little chain icon

[fleet venture]

no no

[echo ruin]

Next to X and Y

[fleet venture]

this is a scaling im writing msyelf

for in the game

the horizontal and vertical ones were easy i just did (mousePosition.x - _original.x to get the difference

but idk how to get the difference for the diagonal one

[echo ruin]

Oh.. you might have to use .normalize if you want it to adapt the diagonal direction

[fleet venture]

i have gotten a bit of vector math but... ye this is a bit hard

XD

[echo ruin]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/Vector3.Normalize.html

[fleet venture]

it sounds easy but idk

[grand snow]

Yea its x + y scale but normalised so its length is still 1

[fleet venture]

ye i know what normalize does

ah

ok

wait so where would i normalize it

ah wait i think i get it

let me try

ok but how do i normalize just a number

i dont think i quite understand

var scaleX = Mathf.Max(0.1f, _effectedObject.localScale.y * (1 - (mousePosition.y - _original.y) * 0.01f) * Sensitivity);
var scaleY = Mathf.Max(0.1f, _effectedObject.localScale.x * (1 - (mousePosition.x - _original.x) * 0.01f) * Sensitivity);
// normalize this? var scale = ScaleX + ScaleY```

[grand snow]

you cant. you should be constructing a vector2 with the scale to add and normalise THAT

transform.localScale + new Vector2(newScaleX, newScaleY).normalized or similar

[fleet venture]

oh

thats not how im doing it

var scale = Mathf.Max(0.1f, _effectedObject.localScale.x * (1 - (mousePosition.x - _original.x) * 0.01f) * Sensitivity);
_effectedObject.localScale = new Vector3(scale, _effectedObject.localScale.y, 1);
transform.parent.localScale = new Vector3(1 / scale, transform.parent.localScale.y, 1);``` this is my horizontal scaling code

im doing it diff

ii dont use a vector 2

or would i put these scales into a vector?

but then the + makes no sense

[grand snow]

its just an example of adding the scale change you wish to apply

[fleet venture]

i dont see how normalizing would help tbh

i want this to function the same as the chain icon in unity does

normalizing doesnt do that does it?

i just want to get the green distance

well i should just be able to do this msyelf

i can do this

[olive charm]

any tips for making simple inventory system

[teal viper]

• look up some tutorials
• check open source implementations
• write down your design ideas
• start implementing and improve it as you go

[west radish]

In the simplest form, an inventory is nothing more than list of items, and an integer can be used to set which item you have selected based on its index in the list. Then if you created a UseItem() method, that can find the item thats currently selected, do its activation code, then it can be removed from the list.

As for the item itself, my approach would be to have the item class look something like this

public abstract class Item : MonoBehaviour {
  public abstract void Activate();
}

public class PowerUp : Item {
  public override void Activate() {
    // do the items effect here
  }
}

This is only one approach out of an unlimited amount of possible ways to do it. Generally you'd design it based on your own needs, Minecrafts inventory system is very different to Resident Evils. For a really simple system, a list would be ideal

[unborn valley]

perhaps a stupid question, but anyways, why is rb initialized in Start() instead of just off the bat when you declare the variable? eg. why can't i just write
Rigidbody rb = GetComponent<Rigidbody>();

[slender nymph]

you cannot call GetComponent from a field initializer because the object doesn't fully exist at that point

[unborn valley]

ah, makes sense

[west radish]

public Rigidbody rb => GetComponent<Rigidbody>(); this could also work

[slender nymph]

here's another explanation: https://unity.huh.how/compiler-errors/cs0236

[slender nymph]

this is a bad idea because you are then calling GetComponent every single time you need to use the rb property

[ivory bobcat]

You probably wouldn't want to do that though and cache the value instead

[west radish]

yeah I was going to say that

[west radish]

but its the most similar to the code block here

it's a little wasteful as it will run the GetComponent every time you every interact with rb

[slender nymph]

in looks, sure. but in actual functionality it is quite different

[unborn valley]

btw, is there any benefit to using a Capsule Collider instead of a Mesh Collider when dealing with a sort of complex cylindrical object? my friend says mesh colliders are a bit buggy sometimes but idk

[ivory bobcat]

If anything @west radish cs private Rigidbody rb; public Rigidbody Rb { get { if(rb) return rb; rb = GetComponent<Rigidbody>(); return rb; } }

[slender nymph]

honestly that would be better if you inverted the condition

private Rigidbody rb;
public Rigidbody Rb
{
    get {
        if(!rb)
            rb = GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
        return rb;
    }
}

[west radish]

no braces surrounding the if statements 😔

[unborn valley]

seems a bit overly complicated

dunno

[west radish]

what is this, python? 😏

[ivory bobcat]

It's implied and perfectly fine for a single statement

[west radish]

yeah, I know

[west radish]

honestly its fine to get the component in Start, if you know the object is definitely going to have the rigidbody then its an ideal location for it

that or you could drag it into the field via the inspector

[ivory bobcat]

Just cache the value once in Start as the above examples would attempt on every call to the property - unnecessary if you're certain the conditions are to never change (the behavior isn't the same as what you had initially)

[unborn valley]

so what you're saying is, that code would be good if you planned to have the rigid body not be active at certain points?

sorry about my ignorance lol

[ivory bobcat]

It's good if you aren't certain when it should be initialized or want it to be initialized if it isn't already (implies you're not certain when you'd want it .. repeat)

[unborn valley]

right

thanks

[novel void]

Hi! This is a question about hub/editor but I didn't see a channel to post about those, feel free to direct me if there's a better place.

I am having an issue with Unity Hub not launching any editor version on Debian 12 Bookworm. The loading icon appears for about a millisecond and then nothing happens. There is no error recorded in the hub log or editor log. Anyone familiar with Debian that could assist? Unity support has not responded after more than a week and I have followed all instructions I could find across the entire first three pages of Google search as well as a ton of unity forums posts none of which have helped solve the issue. I have made sure all depencies (that I could find) are installed.

Apologies if general questions aren't allowed or if there's a better channel for this question. Thanks.

[astral falcon]

Guess. you followed the general installation guide, right? https://docs.unity3d.com/hub/manual/InstallHub.html

[novel void]

Yes. Unity Hub runs and adding installs for 2019 (from archive), 2021, and Unity 6 appear to install but existing and new projects do not launch with any editor version selected

[astral falcon]

Can you try to run them from terminal and see if you can get any logs?

[novel void]

I will paste the result (very long). One second.

[astral falcon]

use something like !code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

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Use links to services like:
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To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
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```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[novel void]

most notably I get the message "Appimage is not defined"
https://paste.ofcode.org/NGwvFN9j3srpYW7fQgAhA

I also have tried adding windows build support (current platform for all the projects I tried) as well as installing and switching to linux build support, neither of which makes a difference over default options.

[astral falcon]

I think, the "env is not defined, current application is not an AppImage" is important. Something like a wrong installation of unity, when it comes to env, but thats just guesses

But Id say, its not a unity issue but more a os issue

[novel void]

I ran the commands to install unity hub as defined in the instructions you linked above, those commands send no feedback when ran other than installing unityhub apt

[novel void]

Ok, I appreciate you taking your time to try anyhow.

I'll keep searching around. I also tried asking the debian discord although that community is rather small and nobody there is a unity dev it seems

[astral falcon]

It would rather not include the unity part and search for debian directly related issues.

[ivory bobcat]

Yeah, those look to be OS specific errors. Have you tried asking the Debian discord server?

[astral falcon]

"vaapi_video_decoder.cc(1206)] failed Initialize()ing the frame pool" , there is def. more going on than just unity not working

Maybe unity just does not work on your system because of missing hardware support?

[novel void]

i get that error running any software through terminal, though unity is the only one i'm having any trouble with, oddly

blender, gimp for example

[novel void]

It worked on windows on the same pc so yeah, maybe i'm missing something hub relies on. An error would be nice, though lol

[astral falcon]

You get an error 😄

[novel void]

through terminal

i'll see if fixing that one also resolves hub. It's another lead I suppose, thanks

[ivory bobcat]

Unrelated to Unity but the OS specifically
https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/t8o65o/vaapi_hardware_accelerated_video_decode_broken_in/
tldr: VAAPI is the hardware accelerated video decoder

[novel void]

it's fine that unityhub is not an appimage then?

i guess that wouldnt affect editor since it's separate executable

[ivory bobcat]

Search online for a Debian discord server and they'll be able to give you better advices

[void dawn]

Can someone help me with enemy ai for my fps game

Right now I'm struggling with making ai for my game , I tried making a zombie enemy that the player can shoot but even after I set everything up he just stays in the air statically even tho I added animations , rigbody , navmesh , a dedicated script

And no Im not asking for you to code for me , I just want you to help me understand what I'm doing so I struggle less

I wanna make a enemy that can shoot the player too but I'm not sure how to do it

Can anyone please help

[ivory bobcat]

I'm assuming there's supposed to be some code with this since this is the beginner coding channel

[novel void]

out of 4000 members nobody seems to be a unity dev. i guess debian is a less popular distro for developers. thanks anyhow

[void dawn]

Where should I post this then

[astral falcon]

!code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

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To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
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[astral falcon]

Its fine here, just show your script

[void dawn]

https://paste.ofcode.org/fxHmcp5snFDcQDtcAXKDku

here

[polar acorn]

If it stays hovering a fixed distance above the ground then your collider is probably taller than your mesh. The collider is the only thing that matters when it comes to determining if it's on the ground or not

[void dawn]

But then why it's not moving ?

[polar acorn]

Is it ever entering the state where it moves?

[void dawn]

Well it should move when the player is close to him , but he doesn't for some reason

[polar acorn]

Okay, but is it actually executing that function

[olive galleon]

Hi, I recently started using GitHub and when I pushed from my Laptop to make changes and fetched it on my PC, when I try to save it opens up my file explorer and wants me to save a unity type file, but there aren't any issues when I save on my Laptop. Also, when I created assets like sprites on my laptop and committed the changes, the assets and sprites were gone, the only thing that I was able to get were the scripts I created.

[void dawn]

turns out its not , i dont know how to fix that

no wait i was able to fix it

now its moving

the problem he isnt playing animations and is walking backwards

[wintry quarry]

Sounds like you didn't properly commit your changes

[grand snow]

Hopefully they are using github desktop (I hear some try to use the web interface to upload files 😐 )

[rocky canyon]

i do that all the time for readme's and text files and whatnot😛

just gotta remember to pull it

[fleet venture]

Quaternion.FromToRotation((Vector2)_original, (Vector2)mousePosition).eulerAngles Is this not how to get the angle between 2 vectors?

i want the angle between 2 vectors in 2D

but htis just does weird stuff

[rocky canyon]

wouldnt that just be Dot Product?

[wintry quarry]

what kind of vectors are these?

direction vectors?

[fleet venture]

Vector 2

[wintry quarry]

euler angles?

[fleet venture]

uh ye

nah

[wintry quarry]

position vectors?

which one

[fleet venture]

they are positions

[rocky canyon]

float angle = Vector2.SignedAngle(_original, mousePosition);?

[wintry quarry]

there is no such thing as an angle between two positions

[fleet venture]

but currently the object is at 0 0 0

there is tho

the object is at 0 0 0

[wintry quarry]

You need a third position to act a s a pivot to rotate around

[rocky canyon]

theres a direction

[wintry quarry]

so is your third position 0?

[fleet venture]

i mean they pretty much are direction vectors at this point arent they?

bc its at 0 0 0

[wintry quarry]

then yes say taht

but you need to subtract the third position from each to make them into direction vectors

in this case if it's 0 that's a no op

[fleet venture]

its 2D

[wintry quarry]

and then to get the angle between them you use Vector3.SignedAngle

or Vector3.Angle

[fleet venture]

ah

[rocky canyon]

// [like dis](#💻┃code-beginner message)

float angle = Vector2.SignedAngle(Vector2.right, direction);```

i got confused tho.. cuz i was thinking just direction?

[fleet venture]

to get the direction dont i only like have to subtract

[rocky canyon]

yessir

Vector2 direction = mousePosition - _original;```

[fleet venture]

ye

[rocky canyon]

there - here

ur mousePosition should be converted to world-position tho for that to be accurate correct?

b/c mousePosition is pixel coordinates

Without converting, you'll get nonsense results when subtracting.

Vector2 worldMousePos = Camera.main.ScreenToWorldPoint(Input.mousePosition); ftw? idk

[fleet venture]

idk its still weird im doing stuff wrong

let me show the full code

var mousePosition = _mainCamera.ScreenToWorldPoint(Input.mousePosition);
_effectedObject.rotation = Quaternion.Euler(0, 0, _originalRotation.eulerAngles.z + Vector2.SignedAngle(_original, mousePosition));```

[rocky canyon]

most likely..
got ur spaces confused i bet

[fleet venture]

ye i dont fully know what im doing

[rocky canyon]

You're trying to rotate an object based on the angle between _original and mousePosition, but _original and mousePosition are positions, not directions.

[fleet venture]

im trying to get this rotation circle to work btw

[fleet venture]

so i need to subtract the object origin

right?

[rocky canyon]

var mouseWorldPos = _mainCamera.ScreenToWorldPoint(Input.mousePosition);
var direction = (Vector2)(mouseWorldPos - _effectedObject.position); // get dir

float angle = Vector2.SignedAngle(_original, direction); // angle between OG dir and new dir
_effectedObject.rotation = Quaternion.Euler(0, 0, _originalRotation.eulerAngles.z + angle); //apply rotation```

[fleet venture]

    var mousePosition = _mainCamera.ScreenToWorldPoint(Input.mousePosition);
    _effectedObject.rotation = Quaternion.Euler(0, 0, _originalRotation.eulerAngles.z + Vector2.SignedAngle(_original - transform.parent.position, mousePosition - transform.parent.position));
   ``` thats the same as this right?

[rocky canyon]

something like this feels like what i think ur trying to do.. but im not 💯 on that..

[fleet venture]

ye it is i think

i still dont think it will work

[rocky canyon]

no its not the same

[fleet venture]

nvm it does

even if its not the same my solution does work so thats interesting

[rocky canyon]

you’re subtracting from the parent's position for both _original and mousePosition, which implies that you're treating those positions as relative to the parent.

[fleet venture]

uh because they are relative to the parent

[rocky canyon]

If _original is in world coordinates, the code you wrote converts everything to be relative to the parent position before calculating the angle..

[rocky canyon]

oh good..

lol

if thats the case the subtraction makes sense

[fleet venture]

ye it seems to work well

[twilit stirrup]

Boiz, i need help, i got some code that disables a game object and then enables another game object, but when i do this mid animation, when i then switch back, it holds the item in the position and rotation from where the animtion left off, is there another way to disable a object or restart the animation somehow?

[rugged beacon]

i have this prefab with a preplaced table and multiple chair points in the image, im trying to execute this script for random chairs stuff after this prefab is generated onto the game. the chair gen script called by Start() dont know if this problem. no error.
here the script code if that helps:

    [SerializeField] private List<GameObject> singleChairs = new List<GameObject>();
    [SerializeField] private List<GameObject> longChairs = new List<GameObject>();
    // Start is called once before the first execution of Update after the MonoBehaviour is created
    void Start()
    {
        List<GameObject> chairsPoint = getChildren(this.transform);
        List<GameObject> pointChildren = new List<GameObject>();
        foreach(GameObject point in chairsPoint)
        {
            if(point.transform.childCount > 0)
            {
                if(Utility.UnseededRng(0,100) < 50)
                {
                    pointChildren = getChildren(point.transform);
                    foreach(GameObject chair in pointChildren)
                    {
                        Instantiate(singleChairs[Utility.UnseededRng(0, singleChairs.Count)]);
                    }
                } else {
                    Instantiate(longChairs[Utility.UnseededRng(0, longChairs.Count)]);
                }
            } else {
                Instantiate(singleChairs[Utility.UnseededRng(0, singleChairs.Count)]);
            }
        }

    }

    private List<GameObject> getChildren(Transform transform)
    {
        List<GameObject> children = new();
        foreach(Transform child in transform)
        {
            children.Add(child.gameObject);
        }
        return children;
    } ```

[grand snow]

Im confused, you pick a chair and spawn it but dont set the parent and/or position?
Also you can simplify this to put the picked chair in a var and instantiate it at the end. Plus you should give your children list a start capacity.

[rugged beacon]

yea i forgor to set the position fr

got it

[rocky canyon]

this is a really common issue.. it happens with alot of things..
right off the top of my mind is the line-renderer

i have to manually reset all the positions before i re-enable them.. b/c they'll be in teh last position they were in for 1 frame..

you'll probably need to do something similar

[grand snow]

You may as well have a serialized list for the points too instead of grabbing the children at runtime too

[rugged beacon]

i thought thats better

[rocky canyon]

Disable();

ResetStuff();
ThenReEnable();

[rugged beacon]

performance wise

[grand snow]

you have to think about garbage creation and when the data is already in the object you may as well set it up ahead of time.

[rocky canyon]

its always going to have a position and rotation when it spawns..
ur not changing anything performance-wise by setting those values..
thats why they come as parameters of the instantiation method

[twilit stirrup]

ok thanks, il look into it.

[grand snow]

its more work to allocate a list, grow it and find and add a transforms children vs them just being configured already as serialized vars

[rugged beacon]

make sense

[rocky canyon]

its always better to use a collection thats pre-allocated correct?

[twilit stirrup]

I thought about doing something like it, maybe reseting the values or the positon, its more like, how im gonna do it.

[rocky canyon]

say 10-20+ indices more than what u expect to have

that way ur never changing it

<insert question mark>

[grand snow]

Here the problem is the lists are temporary so they will get GC'd later.
Its also ALWAYS better to set the start capacity for a list upon creation (then you avoid re allocation to grow the list to fit the stuff you want)

[rocky canyon]

💯 but you'll figure it out.

[twilit stirrup]

It will work out, thanks for responding tho :D

[rocky canyon]

if u have a reference to the item.. and the position and rotation of "where it should be"...
you can just assign those values right before u enable it again

[rocky canyon]

good.. just a sanity check ☑️ thanks

[twilit stirrup]

Ye, thought this might be the case, thanks :D

[olive galleon]

I followed the Brackeys tutorial and figured out it told me to add Library, Objects, etc... to the gitignore, should I keep them in the gitignore? Or what should keep/remove for gitignore?

[hexed terrace]

google -> unity gitignore -> the first result is what you want

[grand snow]

https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/main/Unity.gitignore

just use this instead and ignore whatever he said

download and rename/replace existing .gitignore

[eternal needle]

When you create the repo, you can also just choose the option to use the unity gitignore. Assuming this is the same as linked above

[rocky canyon]

don't tell people to ignore others..

[grand snow]

bit late for that isnt it 😆

[eternal needle]

think he was referring to brackeys

in which case its valid

[rocky canyon]

ohh.. if thats the case.. i retract my statement

[grand snow]

and they probably made the repo locally first but good to learn how to update the gitignore yourself.

Yea i just mean its best to not try to copy something like that from a video (i dont know what brackeys said in his videos i dont watch em really)
Better to know how to get a good git ignore yourself

[rugged beacon]

whats with brackey

[hexed terrace]

That's what I assumed too, as what I said just takes you to the same link 😄

[rocky canyon]

no bueno.. find someone else

for (1) he's been deprecated..

[rugged beacon]

i seen majority advise me to go watch him, geniune question

[rocky canyon]

no support.. unless ur using Gadot

[rocky canyon]

take it from the experienced heads..

brackeys starts people out on a really bad path

[hexed terrace]

It's becoming more and more poor advice to use Brackey's. He stopped doing Unity tutorials years ago, so they're becoming more and more out of date. He also taught bad practices

[grand snow]

I remember learning from quill18creates like 10+ years ago now 😐

[rocky canyon]

quill is tenfold better than brackeys

brackeys was for entertainment..

its not horrible.. u can still learn from him..
but you'll have to back-track and refactor ur code once u realize some of the silly things he does

[eternal needle]

theres a lot wrong. if you search for what i wrote about him in the past you can see more messages but TLDR is
his videos worked ONLY for the purpose of the demonstration. Information was wrong or misleading. It's quick and popular meaning lots of newbies will watch it and like/comment. you can seemingly setup a feature quickly, but this feature cant be extended upon because the code is usually shit

[rocky canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/@LlamAcademy/videos this guy is decent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iCnjdXEfMA this playlist is bad-ass crash course

https://www.youtube.com/@Unity3dCollege

[eternal needle]

the same of what i said goes for a lot of content creators, ideally you should use videos to find out what exists or what method people might use to do XYZ. Then go implement it yourself

[rocky canyon]

thats all.. my alternative brackeys list

i couldnt agree with bawsi more..

nothing wrong with using unity tutorials to expose urself to the material..

to see whats out there.. and see some common work-flows

then as SOON as u feel able.. branch off.. and learn ur own.. (at that point u know what u want.. and what u want to do)

no reason to not go hands-on.. and learn specifics from Documentation, the manual, Unity Sources, stackoverflow, the discussions etc

[rugged beacon]

i havent stick with one channel, im not really picky just trying one vid doing similiar thing i wanted fr

[rocky canyon]

if u follow brackeys.. for the love of all thats mighty..
do not multiply ur mouse inputs by Time.deltaTime

with just a few videos he made it spread like wild-fire

and now we have posts like this lmao

and bad lerps.. i forgot about that one

[eternal needle]

i found some of his stuff a bit questionable honestly. not here to say people shouldnt watch him, but it was a hassle for me to sit through his videos. I watched a bit of his AI series. You couldnt make changes to suit your own system or you wouldn't be able to follow along. Also i felt a lot of stuff wouldnt be suitable for an actual game, like for example using navmesh agent movement then toggling a rb purely to deal with knockback.

[rugged beacon]

bad practices i can forgive but dang, straight up wrong info ?

[rocky canyon]

ohh 💯 thats why i used the descriptor of "decent" 😅

[rocky canyon]

it could have been a simple accident.. we dont know.

but ppl come in here atleast once a day.. w/ that 1 bad line of code..

and its instant recognition.. "you're following brackeys aren't you"

[rocky canyon]

lot of the younger crowd tend to like his format.. i personally have only watched 1 or 2 videos of his..
but they seem decent.. "no obnoxious keyboard banging" .. "no long monologes or irrelevant B-roll",
no extra Utilities to download to follow along, No "Studies" that leave you on a cliffhanger (sebastian)
usually straight to the point.. and his mathing seems to math correctly most times.. but i see what ur saying

[rugged beacon]

what about coding train ? i thought higly of him when im looking for complex stuff

[rocky canyon]

lmao.

[rugged beacon]

fr

[eternal needle]

Yea i didnt feel there were glaring math errors or like brackeys level misinformation. It was probably just a combination of I do not like his style plus me seeing the AI series combining navmeshagent and RB. There was also something about a gun system he created using SO which seemed like a PITA to use, so i almost wondered why he was showing it off in a video

[rocky canyon]

couldn't have said it better

[rocky canyon]

its pretty mediocre tbh

but i can see it being pretty informative to beginners

https://www.youtube.com/@gamesplusjames is a good one too @rugged beacon

lol tutorial overload 😅

[rugged beacon]

dont think i can rember these names when i looking for that one function for tutorial fr

[rocky canyon]

thats where i find they run off the rails..
those types of guys have a certain kind of audience..
when they go too deep i feel like they over-simplify it.. and leave out alot to be known

the SO comment

[rocky canyon]

just bookmark them for later 😉

[rugged beacon]

most stuff im looking for are procedural generation stuff with code review, they seem scarce so i havent been picky at all

[rocky canyon]

never hurts to have too many resources

Sebastian Lague is really good w/ that procedural stuff

but he does those "studies"

[rugged beacon]

yea i watch that one 3d

[rocky canyon]

they're really not tutorials..

[rugged beacon]

but yea im doing 2d tilemap

[eternal needle]

You dont need to remember any names. you could bookmark it or subscribe, but if you're just looking for a method then you should be on google. What i said above about using tutorials, it should give you a general guideline of what to do. Then its up to you to google and find the docs for what methods do the calculation you need

[rocky canyon]

Unity Documentation is where its at!

Official Unity Resources:
Unity Learn - Unity's Learning Portal.
Unity Documentation - Comprehensive guides and manuals for Unity.
Unity Scripting Reference - Detailed API documentation for Unity scripting.
Unity Manual 2022.3 (LTS) - In-depth manual covering Unity features and workflows.
Unity YouTube - Official Unity YouTube channel for tutorials, showcases, and updates.

[rugged beacon]

document from what i understand is where you go when you dont understand some built in function?
but stuff like generated stuff, algorithim, how to implement it,.. shouldnt be there ?

[rocky canyon]

yea. ur correct.. methods you'll use will be documented.

but you'll have to rabbit-hole ur way there.. for stuff like that

[eternal needle]

yea that stuff would be fine to follow along. i was referring more to like an inventory tutorial, where at the end of the day an inventory is just a collection of items. An item can be defined as literally anything
If you're talking about a specific algorithm, you can think of it like a math formula. there's generally one implementation for it

[gleaming wagon]

Hello, I was wondering if somebody has any idea on how to make a TMP text that can interact with colliders. Like in MiSide where the text falls and collides with stuff after being displayed. Any ideas?

Like this and after the text falls it can interact with the colliders kinda like particles would

Here is a better example:

[rocky canyon]

regular collider
w/ world-space canvas

[gleaming wagon]

And using no canvas so 3d text would that work too? Also can I give it a rigidbody? I dont see a lot of documentation on the tmp effects

[fickle plume]

There's 3D TMP as well

[gleaming wagon]

yep that is what I am using

Its not the text I am struggling with its the effect

[fickle plume]

TMP creator has extensive YouTube tutorials, from before asset was bought

[rocky canyon]

but knowing theres a 3D element for text.. should fuel ur search

[gleaming wagon]

Alright thanks, still this solution works for whole sentences not individual letters or even words.

Unless I were to make a mesh for each letter

[rocky canyon]

you may need to..

can't say for sure.. but you'll figure that out as u go

🍀 good luck 🙂

[gleaming wagon]

Alright thanks

[rocky canyon]

made something w/ simple loop

[twilit stirrup]

A kind sir, in the animation part of the discord helped me, he told me to add a frame in the idle animation where it changes the x rotation, so that it therefor goes back to that, even tho it might be stuck from the recoil or reload animation.

[rocky canyon]

Prefab -> Empty letter w/ rigidbody and box collider
Spawn Letter -> Change Letter -> Space Letter -> Repeat

[rocky canyon]

did it work?

[twilit stirrup]

Yes, it worked perfectly.

[rocky canyon]

awesome!! glad we can help (them moreso than me) lol

[gleaming wagon]

Oh wow

[twilit stirrup]

lol, thanks for still taking your time to help me tho.

[rocky canyon]

i could probably add a bit of an irregular shape as the collider to have them do more things when they fall

right now its just boring box

[gleaming wagon]

Wait I don't understand the prefab part. Also the spawn letter part. Do you mind sharing the script

[rocky canyon]

i'll more than happy share the code that does that ^ but not sure if its helpful

[rocky canyon]

the prefab is just an empty 3D TMP

[gleaming wagon]

Oh so the prefab is just the mesh for each letter and we write the text after

[rocky canyon]

with a box collider and a rigidbody..
when i spawn it.. i take the first letter of the string and set that
then we spawn the next one..

[gleaming wagon]

ahh

[rocky canyon]

and se thtat

[rocky canyon]

https://paste.myst.rs/rc7g45i8

the only thing i want to note... is right now its just using the transform of w/e SpawnText.cs is attached to..

[gleaming wagon]

Alright thanks, I will lyk if I get it to work

[rocky canyon]

u can change that how-ever u want. or even use custom positions

and letterspacing is just how wide the char is for the tmp

i tried testing w/ a mesh-collider so each letter had the actual edges of the letter.. but its not like a normal
mesh where i can drag in the same mesh that the mesh-filter uses.. not sure exactly how TMP does the meshing...
that'd be cool to have each letter w/ its own mesh.. so what i did is hacky.. since its only using boxes/squares
i'll try reading up on it myself when i get free-time to maybe figure out how it works

[gleaming wagon]

Okay I got it to work! Not working with the dialogue system rn but the text is colliding I just gotta implement it now. Thanks!!

[gleaming wagon]

Oh btw the box collider is enough, The video I sent from MiSide looks like a box collider too. Also I think giving each letter more complex colliders could impact the framerate too much

[rocky canyon]

nice

[rocky canyon]

np mate 🙂 🙏

[grand snow]

I presume miside actually just does some non physics animation to move the characters as you can modify the mesh per character

[naive pawn]

it does collide with nearby objects and walls appropriately so i think it is physics

[grand snow]

I presumed it was a ray cast down and an anim 🤔 let me watch the vid again

[naive pawn]

oh that's true they don't move horizontally that much in the vids. i haven't played so im not too sure myself

ill try finding clips where there's more objects around the text

[grand snow]

i've not played just watched some gameplay. But its probably what I would do for a fun effect.
You can already modify the mesh on creation to do the text fade in effect easily and pretty sure you can change the verticies of characters so should be doable

[red igloo]

I don't really like how the player can easily pick up the object and jump around. I don't want to freeze the objects constraints. I just want it so the object isn't easily flipped/tossed around. I played with the mass and its not what im looking for.

https://paste.ofcode.org/d7HTXrV7zNx349aqjmN79V

https://streamable.com/0hrbwr

[wintry quarry]

how does your player move

[red igloo]

https://paste.ofcode.org/32M4fRJArusYn4gcbDtZyHi

[wintry quarry]

rb.velocity = movement;```

because you're directly assigning velocity, it will be able to overcome any mass

If you want it to behave realistically you need to switch to moving via forces

or manually reduce the velocity you assign based on the mass of any object you're holding

[nimble cliff]

if we place a Resources folder inside an Editor folder, does the Resources folder will be only available in the editor ( and not at runtime / build ) ?

[naive pawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQSt0uwQJ_0
at 29s, you can see the 'g' in 'something' fall onto the edge of the table and then roll off
(just fyi)

[brittle isle]

I'm beginning to wonder how to include secondary entrances and exits from one scene into the other for the Unity platformer project.

[grand snow]

No it doesn't. Tried this once before

[cosmic quail]

how about an editor folder in the resources folder?

[grand snow]

Dang you are right

[grand snow]

Don't think it matters either way. We delete stuff at build time to do this

[nimble cliff]

I will just rename it _Resources 😄

ho no .. I think _ on folder hide them or something 😄

lets go for Data

[wintry quarry]

Color uses values 0-1

not 0-255

if you want to use 0-255 use Color32

[vapid ledge]

damn that was simple ty

have no idea why it worked with most of my other uses though

[naive pawn]

anything >1 is treated as 1, perhaps you were using pure colors before?

[wintry quarry]

simple - it didn't

you did something different

[polar acorn]

No, you didn't

Color has always been 0-1, in every version of Unity

[vapid ledge]

yeah this is probably it

thanks for the help

[random sorrel]

Hello. I have added a First Person Camera Controller from Starter assets. ESC key is bound to show or hide cursor. But even when hit ESC key to release cursor, camera still traces position of cursor, which is undesirable. I have found that the highlighted parameter controls such behavior, but it does not get deactivated when I hit ESC key. How do I actually force de-activate it (and then re-activate it once player clicks screen)?

[wintry quarry]

Most people aren't familiar off the cuff with the inner workings of the starter assets scripts

Probably you would use this: https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/ScriptReference/MonoBehaviour.OnApplicationFocus.html

[random sorrel]

I think, after user presses ESC application does necessarily loose focus, it still stays foreground

OnApplicationFocus is called when the application loses or gains focus. Alt-tabbing or Cmd-tabbing can take focus away from the Unity application to another desktop application. This causes the GameObjects to receive an OnApplicationFocus call with the argument set to false. When the user switches back to the Unity application, the GameObjects receive an OnApplicationFocus call with the argument set to true.

[wintry quarry]

Note: If the Editor is in Play mode, OnApplicationFocus is called when the Game view loses or gains focus. If an external application (meaning an application other than Unity) has focus, and you click a different Editor tab, ::OnApplicationFocus is called twice in one frame. The first time, OnApplicationFocus is called with hasFocus set to true because the Game view regains focus when Unity regains focus. The second time, OnApplicationFocus is called with hasFocus set to false because the Game view loses focus to the Editor tab that was clicked.

[random sorrel]

chaotic

[rocky canyon]

usually i'll go in and strip out all the cursor lock stuff and make it my own Manager of sorts that all scripts can access (simple singleton)..

that way all scripts are doing thru that 1 master script and not getting all the stuff all complicated..
you get two or three assets that all have cursor functionallity and it gets kinda crazy..
in some cases it becomes like a state machine

• Cursor Locked and Hidden (Moveable) (character controls as normal)
• Cursor Unlocked and Visible (Not-Moveable) (character is locked, is navigating menus or something)

MasterMouse 🖱️ lol

I didn't even know about the Cursor.lockState = CursorLockMode.Confined; until the other day.. took 4 years to find it 😄

[earnest wind]

im cooked

i honestly dont understand what ive done wrong anymore

when changing a slider value, it changes the color for eveything

give me a second i will upload how it works

[wintry quarry]

You are probably doing something like modifying the default material

[earnest wind]

nope, because it worked this whole time, but when trying to make it work with the undo/redo system it all went downhill

let me show how it works

[wintry quarry]

That would be helpful.

But "it worked before and doesn't now" doesn't really preclude anything

[earnest wind]

it may take me some time to post everything so please stay here xD

[wintry quarry]

Make a thread

[earnest wind]

ok

Thread

[rocky canyon]

cool name

[sterile radish]

why is unity giving me an nre even though ive referenced the object im trying to change?

[polar acorn]

What is SettingsUI line 13

[sterile radish]

        clickCount.text = "You've clicked a total of " + GameManager.instance.clickCount + "times... WOW!!";

[polar acorn]

Then either clickCount or GameManager.instance is null

Try logging both and find out which

[sterile radish]

okay ive logged both and its saying the gamemanager is null but im unsure as to how

[polar acorn]

Well, where do you set GameManager.instance?

[sterile radish]

in the awake method because ive made it a singleton

    private void Awake()
    {
        if (instance == null)
        {
            instance = this;
        }

        UpdateUI();
    }

[polar acorn]

Okay, and what function is line 13 of SettingsUI in?

[sterile radish]

OnEnable (for its own object)

[polar acorn]

So, this script is executing before GameManager.

By default, the order scripts are executed in is essentially random. You can set the script execution order, but the usual better way to do it is to just redesign the code so there aren't race conditions. Like moving this text setting to Start instead

[alpine gyro]

I wanted to rotate a prefab by 180 and than save it...
ChatGPT told me there is an override but either I am very stupid or its chatgpt?
[sorry to crush into this conversation]

[polar acorn]

Are you actually editing a prefab?

[polar acorn]

Or an instance of a prefab in the scene? Or an object that isn't a prefab at all?

[sterile radish]

ohh okay, i didn't know that thanks for the help!

[polar acorn]

Script execution order will basically pick a script, run its Awake, then run it's OnEnable, then move on to the next script in the line. When it hits the end, it goes back to the front of the line then does everyone's Start functions. Awake and OnEnable are basically at the same "priority", so the order is only for when they're both in the same script

[rocky canyon]

if ur editing a prefab within the prefab [Prefab Mode] there is no Override.. b/c ur actually changing the OG prefab
if ur editing an instance of a prefab within the scene there is an override.. b/c ur editing a version of the OG so applying Overrides -> overrides the OG w/ the new values

[alpine gyro]

Looks like im to stupid?!

[rocky canyon]

thats the prefab the OG.

there is no override there.. (ur changing the OG)..
ud only see override if u drag it into the scene and Change that version

[polar acorn]

That's a... weird lookin inspector

[rocky canyon]

its got some VC clutter

[polar acorn]

Ah, is that what it is?

[rocky canyon]

im thinking.. with Check-in and Added

[polar acorn]

Yeah, there would be an overrides dropdown where it has that "check-in" button if you were editing an instance of the prefab

[alpine gyro]

added does not do anything and check-in is version control

[polar acorn]

Yeah, those are unrelated, I've just never seen them before

[alpine gyro]

so at least Its not my fault 😄

[polar acorn]

So I wasn't sure if it was a custom inspector

[rocky canyon]

no. ours look the same.. if i select the prefab from the project window..

same as urs

but if i select a prefab within the scene.. i now do.. b/c of -> #💻┃code-beginner message

think of the prefabs like this:
prefabs in your project window -> the "Original Versions" of all the Files (Like the Library of all the parts your game has)
your hierarchy -> copies of the "Original Versions" (Copies of the parts you've chosen to load from project into the current scene)

[alpine gyro]

Ah you are 100% right. you only have it when you have an instance of the prefab in the hierachie

[rocky canyon]

👍 exactly

[alpine gyro]

so but my problem was i wanted to turn the object by 180* and than save it. Looks like this is the only change you can make without getting that revert/apply :d

[earnest wind]

@polar acorn and @wintry quarry ....
I just playtested everything and i found the problem, it only happens when i Duplicate (a function i made), and then i change the colors or positions, its as it has linked somehow...
https://pastebin.com/TSLNQqYx
If you could see any ways that i did something wrong then please help me 😭
this is how component data works, its on every script, and when duplicating is just instantiates a object from this list (2nd image)

[rocky canyon]

fun fact, rotations and positions of prefabs are irrelevant

if u want it to matter then u'd nest a gameobject 1 level down.. and rotate that instead..

[alpine gyro]

yeah but i wanted to avoid that

than i rather add some stupid "rotation offset" to the code X_x 😄