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[quick pollen]

why not use some kind of stack

[radiant sail]

what does that mean?

[quick pollen]

you do

        if (newTrackIndex == lastTrackIndex)
        {
            PlayRandomTrack();
        }```

[radiant sail]

also that code isnt causing the problem at all so i dont rlly wanna mess with it too much

[polar acorn]

Okay, so that means the coroutine is not the problem. Let's go one level out, go to the function that calls StartMusic and comment out StartMusic there, see if there's still lag

[quick pollen]

why not just keep track of the last n songs

and remove them from a list

[radiant sail]

because the game has like 5 songs so ye, i dont want it to play the song directly after it finishes but im fine with it if it plays a different song before

[quick pollen]

and what's the exact issue, sorry

[radiant sail]

dosent this mean that after it plays the 5 songs it wont have anything left to play so it stays silent?

[quick pollen]

well you remove n songs

you put those songs in a stack

[radiant sail]

yea doing this removed the lag :\

[quick pollen]

and once the stack's length exceeds n you put the song back into the list

[quick pollen]

lol

[radiant sail]

after commenting out everything in the method only leaving one out, the lag is being caused by the audioSource.Play(); effect
if you know why this could be happening/how to fix this it would be great

theres no errors with the audioSource variable tho, using it still plays the sound and removing it stops it so idk

[slender bridge]

Are you using wav file or mp3? Mp3 likes to add a small silence at the beginning of the file

[polar acorn]

Hm, playing an audio source that already has a clip in it shouldn't be causing lag. Is it a particularly large file?

[mental aspen]

Yeah its odd:

[radiant sail]

no all the song files are below 5mb and all less than 4m long

[slender bridge]

How much lag are you talking about? and have you inspected the beginning of the file for silence?

[polar acorn]

Is it lagging like, the whole game, or just the audio playing later than expected?

[radiant sail]

the whole game

audio dosent start playing untill it unfreezes after that half second

[verbal dome]

Show the import settings for the audioclip that it uses?

[radiant sail]

    {
        if (musicTracks.Count == 0)
        {
            Debug.LogWarning("No music tracks available.");
            return;
        }
        Debug.Log("picking random song");
        int newTrackIndex;
        newTrackIndex = Random.Range(0, musicTracks.Count);
        if (newTrackIndex == lastTrackIndex)
        {
            PlayRandomTrack();
        }
        else
        {
            lastTrackIndex = newTrackIndex;
            audioSource.clip = musicTracks[newTrackIndex];
        }
    }

[verbal dome]

No I mean click the audio clip in your asset browser and screenshot the inspector

[radiant sail]

they all look about the same

[verbal dome]

Try Preload Audio Data

So it loads it beforehand instead of when it is first played

[radiant sail]

how

[languid spire]

Loads in Bsckground? lots of options to play with

[verbal dome]

That too

[radiant sail]

also i have just noticed this being spammed in console. i have no idea if this is being caused by the music thing but the game still works
i dont know how to fix this tho

memory leak apparently

[verbal dome]

It is a setting in the inspector you just screenshotted

[radiant sail]

oh

[polar acorn]

I think it's that Decompress on Load setting. Whatever format it's in, that decompress step is taking a while

[languid spire]

Probably as it's Vorbis which means it can't stream decompress

[radiant sail]

do i just check the preload box on all the music sounds? or do i gotta do more than that

[verbal dome]

Yeah, try that first

[radiant sail]

this fixed the lag :)
thats so weird to me since ive made games that legit just spam audio and ive never had that issue lol
infact i didnt even know audio clips had those settings

[radiant sail]

while im here tho what do i do about the "memory leak" thing

its not causing issues apart from spamming my console with like 10 msgs per action i do

[languid spire]

why dont you do what the messages suggest you do?

[radiant sail]

i dont know how to "run app with -diag-temp-memory-leak-validation cmd line argument"
and i dont understand the rest of what its saying

[languid spire]

well do some research and find out how to do it

[quick pollen]

can you compare Vector3s in some way?

[polar acorn]

yes

many ways in fact

[quick pollen]

like I want to spawn something inside of a box randomly

but I also maybe want a way to make sure that objects aren't too close to each other

[swift crag]

well, if you want to find out the distance between two Vector3s, there's Vector3.Distance..

[quick pollen]

but what if I have like 30 objects

[timber tide]

Use overlap box

[swift crag]

then you would compare multiple times

[quick pollen]

I don't want to do a distance check for all

[timber tide]

Right, just do overlap

[swift crag]

you want to prevent two objects from being too close together, but you also don't want to check if any two objects are too close together?

that sounds challenging

[quick pollen]

not like that

[swift crag]

explain your actual problem

[quick pollen]

well I was just thinking of ways of doing this

like if I wanted to spawn random lightning beams

I don't want them to overlap

[timber tide]

Distance is useful for comparing two objects, but when you're populating multiples then that grows exponentially so grab yourself a shape and compare with that

[quick pollen]

yeah

[swift crag]

it grows linearly in cost to compare your distance to many objects

to compare the distance between all-pairs grows quadratically

physics can be remarkably inefficient here

[timber tide]

mr math words

[quick pollen]

how is it linear

[swift crag]

especially if you're trying to spawn many objects in sequence, since you have to update the physics world over and over as you add new objects

[slender bridge]

The scope of my projects seems to grow quadratically...

[swift crag]

because comparing your distance to 100 objects takes 100 times as long as comparing your distance to 1 object

[quick pollen]

you check n objects against n objects......

that's n^2

[swift crag]

that's the all-pairs scenario, then

[timber tide]

I did compare distance with overlaps recently. And honestly overlap sphere did pretty well compare to distancee

[swift crag]

that's why i described both

[timber tide]

Magnitude comparison also out performs both

(obviously out performs distance)

[swift crag]

If you want to distribute a large number of points without any two points being too close together, you can use Poisson disk sampling

[quick pollen]

also did yall know you can colorcode your scripts?

i didnt

[swift crag]

If you just need to place down 10 objects without overlaps, pick random points and do rejection sampling

[quick pollen]

at that point I can just use voronoi noise

honestly id try that

[timber tide]

really 30 objects isn't going to break anything so go with w/e

[quick pollen]

idk how much id want

im making a bullethell so i want it to be very optimized

plus i wanna learn

how could I even go about adding voronoi?

[swift crag]

you don't actually need voronoi noise

it's based on points randomly positioned within grid cells

it sounds like you only care about the points

[quick pollen]

yeah

[swift crag]

note that this does not prevent two points from being too close together

[quick pollen]

it doesnt?

[timber tide]

so is this like baking a signed distance field

[quick pollen]

my vsc dotnet broke

ffs

how can I run it

[swift crag]

No, because each point is randomly positioned inside of each grid cell

[quick pollen]

it breaks my intellisense

[swift crag]

This message appears even if it's working fine.

[quick pollen]

oh

[swift crag]

Although it should keep going.

[quick pollen]

well idk

Input as an example isnt taken as anything

[swift crag]

restart the editor first

[quick pollen]

and I get no errors even if I should

[quick pollen]

oh damn that fixed it

I remember last time only a full restart did

weird....

[swift crag]

VSCode likes trying to download new versions of .NET when I get on a flight

very annoying

[quick pollen]

lol

[swift crag]

Poisson disk sampling can give a decent looking distributions of points

note that it doesn't randomly fill them in

it grows out from a starting point

You could fill the arena with points and then randomly draw them

Another thing you can do is "relaxation"

[rich adder]

iirc vertex has a link to a disc sampling script

[swift crag]

pick random points, then do a few iterations where you push nearby points apart

[opaque mortar]

can you recomend a totorul for a gun

[rich adder]

thats vague af

[opaque mortar]

ak-47

[rich adder]

that still is vague..

[swift crag]

try spending 15 seconds to punch "unity gun tutorial" into google

[rich adder]

fr ^

[swift crag]

maybe not "untity gun totorul" though

i don't think that will work

[opaque mortar]

tryed

[rich adder]

try harder

[swift crag]

am i about to be told that there are zero gun tutorials

[verbal dome]

But they all have ak-74, I want ak-47

[swift crag]

aka-47

[rich adder]

no no. "None of them work"

[polar acorn]

Google has about 1.84 million of them

[rich adder]

"I tried doesnt work"

[quick pollen]

aww

I was hoping

[rich adder]

random.range returns a number

you're passing a number to a transform

[quick pollen]

yeah....

[rich adder]

so put the range in the v3 lol

[polar acorn]

The second parameter of instantiate does not take a number

[quick pollen]

ig I need 3 randoms

[swift crag]

I've written extension methods for things like random points in bounds

It can be convenient.

[rich adder]

well wrong signature for that
2 parameters is Object,Transform

[swift crag]

using UnityEngine;

public static class Vector2Util
{
    public static float Draw(this Vector2 self)
    {
        return Random.Range(self.x, self.y);
    }
}

e.g.

[quick pollen]

for the position I meant

[rich adder]

yes I know, if you want to pass position you cannot use 2 parameters, you need 3
or assign position to Instance after instantiate

[rocky canyon]

using Foo = UnityEngine.Debug;
Foo.Log("Hello, World! from Foo");
Debug.Log("Hello, World! from UnityEngine.Debug");``` is this how alias's work?

just seems too easy

[quick pollen]

ill just use quaternion.identity

[rich adder]

yeah that will add your 3rd param

[quick pollen]

this should work

[rich adder]

indeed

[quick pollen]

tho i dont even want to instantiate

i want to use my projectilepool

[rich adder]

though if you want a sphere random shape without needing 3 floats you can do Random.insideUnitSphere / onUnitSphere

[quick pollen]

wdym

those are bools?

[rich adder]

nah you can do for example transform.position + Random.insideUnitSphere * radius

[quick pollen]

ehhh I'm fine with this one

ty tho

[rich adder]

yeah no worries just pointing out there are options

[rocky canyon]

Vector3 RandomInCube(Vector3 bottomLeft, Vector3 topRight) {
    float randomX = Random.Range(bottomLeft.x, topRight.x);
    float randomY = Random.Range(bottomLeft.y, topRight.y);
    float randomZ = Random.Range(bottomLeft.z, topRight.z);
    
    return new Vector3(randomX, randomY, randomZ);
}```

[quick pollen]

the script will only be like 20 lines

[rocky canyon]

snatched it from my own Utils

yea im just vibing

[quick pollen]

i doubt itll need more clarity

[quick pollen]

tho ngl thinking about this

u saw my game

i have a sphere arena for my first attack

[rich adder]

depends what you need random pos for

[quick pollen]

so technically I could use it

[rocky canyon]

im just anti-sphere

[rich adder]

the only caviet of this is that you cannot pick uneven distances, so all 3 axis are the same limits

[quick pollen]

tho i want to make sure that the sphere is more of a circle

[rocky canyon]

RandomInPancake

[quick pollen]

but I could just multiply the y point with 0

[rich adder]

Random.insideUnitCircle 😛

[quick pollen]

oh right

danke

how can I tell how big the unitCircle * radius is?

[rich adder]

sphere also returns a V3 so you can do stuff like rotate it etc

[quick pollen]

no way to visualize it somehow?

[rocky canyon]

I wish Unity6 would fix their <color = webcolor> bug

[rich adder]

Gizmos.DrawWiresphere

[rocky canyon]

Wisphere.. sounds like a invasive hornet

not sure why.. but Unity prioritizes my static Debug class over its own

[rich adder]

its broken ?

[rocky canyon]

yes.. very much so, u have to use HexValue

[quick pollen]

this is annoying

[rich adder]

why are you trying to set a single axis on v3

[quick pollen]

cuz I don't need the y axis to be random

[quick pollen]

I want it to be 0

cuz im spawning lightning beams

so i dont want them to be in the air

[rich adder]

ok well ur trying to set it on a copy

[quick pollen]

yeah..

[rich adder]

the property returns a method

so just make a copy and 0 out the Y then set it back

[quick pollen]

i wish I could do it without constructing a vector3

[rich adder]

u dont need to just copy it

var pos = myPosition;
pos.y = 0;
mything.position = pos;```

[rocky canyon]

boxfriend helped me find a workaround. but some of my scripts rely heavily on my lazy color = abc

now im having to go and find the hexvalues for all of em

[rich adder]

Ohh so you only have to use Hex

I don't mind since I do web too

[rocky canyon]

for now

im hoping they fix it

[rich adder]

but yeah thats kinda whack

[rocky canyon]

its weird that it eats the ending tag

😄 digi asked me had i forgotten to close it

[rich adder]

all the other tags working ? I'm gonna need those soon, I'm making a very intense text based game

[rocky canyon]

i haven't tested many other ones but i can real quick

[quick pollen]

true ty

[rocky canyon]

yea, most of em seem fine

double debugs 🤢

[rich adder]

ahh ok good . I mainly need Text Link
nothing fancy 😛

[spare mountain]

fancy debugs 😳

[rocky canyon]

    public static void Log(string msg) => Log(msg, "#FFFFFF");
    public static void Error(string msg) => Log(msg, "#FF0000");
    public static void Warning(string msg) => Log(msg, "#FFFF00");
    public static void Red(string msg) => Log(msg, "#FF0000");
    public static void Orange(string msg) => Log(msg, "#FFA500");
    public static void Yellow(string msg) => Log(msg, "#FFFF00");
    public static void Green(string msg) => Log(msg, "#00FF00");
    public static void Blue(string msg) => Log(msg, "#00FFFF");
    public static void Indigo(string msg) => Log(msg, "#4B0082");
    public static void Violet(string msg) => Log(msg, "#800080");
    public static void Bold(string msg) => Log(msg, "#FFFFFF", bold: true);
    public static void Italic(string msg) => Log(msg, "#FFFFFF", italic: true);
    public static void Strikethrough(string msg) => Log(msg, "#FFFFFF", strikethrough: true);```

[rich adder]

huh.. why not make the colors Const
You only need 1 method, the colors can be store in a separate file as constants

[rocky canyon]

its weird b/c the bug happens in the GUI too

[rich adder]

oh so they just straight up broke it lol not just the console

[rocky canyon]

ya no, its everywhere.. i haven't tested TMP

but im assuming its there too

[naive pawn]

what if i want it bolded and italicized in blue though

[rich adder]

Imo if you want to big brain it.
Enum for the message type, and Const for the colors

then you only need 1 method

[rocky canyon]

ohhhh! @rich adder i figured something else out..

        Debug.Log("<color = yellow>Test Debug</color>");
        Debug.Log("<color=yellow>Test Debug</color>");
        Debug.Log("<color='yellow'>Test Debug</color>");```

it actually isn't broken... the spaces i had in the <color> tag is what broke it..

[rich adder]

oh nice!
Yeah thats string literals for you..

[rocky canyon]

older versions w/ the same code would work.. im guessing now it has to be next to each other

YAY i can get rid of all these hex values

[rich adder]

hell yeah!

[cunning flint]

can someone tell how Quaternion works

[rocky canyon]

i'll probably use enums..

[rich adder]

I think 6% of this discord can

[cunning flint]

damn

[rich adder]

just know it works with rotations

thats all you need to know

[rocky canyon]

    public Color color = Color.cyan;

    void Start()
    {
        string hexColor = ColorUtility.ToHtmlStringRGBA(color);
        Debug.Log($"<color=#{hexColor}>{msg}</color>");
    }``` this was my work-around

[rich adder]

unity has abstracted this into a class for use so we dont have to worry

[cunning flint]

am trying to use it

[rocky canyon]

using Color types.. but passing them thru ToHtmlStringRGBA()

phew, thats a long method name

[rich adder]

what is error cause my eyes hurt

[cunning flint]

but i just damb i think

[rocky canyon]

no argument corresponding to Z

[cunning flint]

i really dont know just trying to use it

[rich adder]

ah yes ur only passing 2 arguements

[rich adder]

you are correct to use there, however what you wrote inside is incorrect signature

the function expects a vector3 or 3 floats

you only passed 2 floats

[rocky canyon]

RotationY * delta is 1 param

RotationX * delta * sens is ur 2nd

u need a third

[cunning flint]

ok let me see

[rich adder]

You can see here
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Quaternion.Euler.html

[quick pollen]

"there is another"

[quick pollen]

what are u tryin to achieve tho

[rich adder]

looks like a fpv camera rotation

[cunning flint]

just normal mouse movment

am new to c#

[rich adder]

You should not multiply Mouse Inputs with DeltaTime

just sensitivity will do

[cunning flint]

arlight

[quick pollen]

or just use cinemachine

[cunning flint]

am trying to learn c#

ok

[rich adder]

check the pins in this channel

[rich adder]

in FPV you still need to rotate the virtual camera
They do have A POV option but never used it

[cunning flint]

am watching some guy called code MONKEY

he have good vids

[rich adder]

no they are not good

they are horrible for new comers

you're gonna be stuck left and right in his channel to do 1 thing

bad

[rich adder]

yes Im familiar

[quick pollen]

huh

[rich adder]

You dont need to keep spamming the screenshot, i know who he is

[cunning flint]

sry my bad

[rich adder]

secret app 🤫

[quick pollen]

im lagging so bad

[rich adder]

if you want to learn properly C# check the pins on this channel

also w3schools

[summer stump]

Code Monkey and Brackeys are the two I usually steer people away from, at least for beginners. Brackeys has decent intermediate stuff

[rich adder]

Code Monkey has specific videos that are helpful, the rest is a "Watch this other video to learn about this video "

I hate that style of video

if you cant teach something in one video without referring another video first, you failed as a teacher

[quick pollen]

i think my windows defender is doing a scan, bonking my cpu in the process

ffs

[rich adder]

I'm a small ant compared to these guys, but if something is not right or isnt clear enough I remove it from existence

[quick pollen]

cant even like get a proper indicator

[rich adder]

windows things ™️

[quick pollen]

i should linux

full control

[rich adder]

hell yea

we need more devs on linux 😢

[quick pollen]

I'd just need a whole new computer

for that

[rich adder]

Unity linux needs more updates 😦

[willow scroll]

Then if you want make a tutorial for the player movement, do you have to teach the full C# basics at the beginning of the video first?

[rich adder]

No but if you're making a video on how to Jump a character controller, show me quickly how to setup a character controller until jumping point. Dont Send me to your other video from years ago that teaches how to make a character controller without jump

that ping pong shit is annoying

[quick pollen]

you should learn C# before getting into Unity in the first place?

this is like asking "do you have to teach the full motor function basics at the beginning of a tutorial about bicycling?"

[rich adder]

https://youtu.be/cEQdjYk51KQ
not to tooth my own horn.
I made a video on a Resident Evil style movement, I didnt have to include the part of setting up mixamo and avatar animations since its out of scope , but its part of the video. I didnt send you to a seperate video that shows Mixamo setup. I just quickly show it

[willow scroll]

Yeah, but you might want to already know something about the character controller before implementing more complicated logic like jumping, gravity etc.

[verbal dome]

I would at least recommend having a grasp on programming/OOP beforehand

[willow scroll]

But some things can indeed be covered in a single video, which is also a thing for the simple chacter controller movement

[verbal dome]

Not necessarily C#, you can learn it as you go. But that's an opinion and most here probably disagree

[rich adder]

in hindsight ofc I would learn C# first but your mind doesn't think that way when you get into GameDev

but we all know just doing plain C# lessons is boring without a Game context

seeng a ball move because you put code is more interesting than a Console Log

[willow scroll]

This is surely how it should be done

[quick pollen]

I mean yeah I didn't learn all of C# in the beginning, we could say I learned C# through Unity rather, but still, at least know basic stuff like what functions are

[verbal dome]

Yes, that's what I mean with basics of programming

Or meant to say lol

[willow scroll]

For beginners, seeing a ball move without understanding "how" is usually worse than seeing an understandable console log

[rich adder]

yeah Ideally. So it hurts when us who do it correct get like obscure plays but these big timers teaching wrong for clicks and $

[verbal dome]

My first programming experience was Angelscript which is a C++ scripting language so it is sort of similiar to C#

Which probably gave me a good kickstart

[rich adder]

well of course we all see this in hindsight as more experienced

[cunning flint]

my first working script without google

[digital kelp]

My unity keeps crashing, not sure if this is the reason but it seems weird
Went to debugging mode and looked into a class instance (TileManager.instance) and when looking at what it contains, the static members->instance->static members seem to loop a bunch

Anyone know what could be causing this?

And/or if it would be a likely culprit for crashes?

[rocky canyon]

alright.. i did even more testing..

• These colors are Rich Text Colors.. and would work inside the console or the GUI like <color=lime>
• These colors are Unity's Color and are now the only ones that will work in Unity6 like <color=green>

[rich adder]

commonly a crash would happen with code is usually an infinite loop

[digital kelp]

Yea, didnt think I had any loops in my code at all tho, but ill check again for things that might cause a loop ig

[verbal dome]

Btw I saw you mention that it is no longer working if there are spaces. The docs point that out:

Are you sure it worked before?

[rich adder]

well I'm confused by this

the static members->instance->static members seem to loop a bunch

[rocky canyon]

yea, i seen that too and went back and checked..

its b/c now it only works w/ unity's colors

[naive pawn]

it's a singleton

it has 1 instance that's stored statically

and the instance also has access to statics

[rocky canyon]

the extravagant Rich Text colors wont work unless its hex

[naive pawn]

you're just looking at a circular reference

[rich adder]

ahh

[digital kelp]

So its not an issue?

[rich adder]

I see it now

[naive pawn]

no, it's fine

[rich adder]

thought you said it was crashing

[digital kelp]

it is

idk why tho

[naive pawn]

if there's a crash it's not related to this

[digital kelp]

welp, you know where to find crash logs then?

[naive pawn]

well it could be this, but not specifically the circular reference

[rich adder]

start disabling scripts/gameobject and see which one is culprit of crash

[rich adder]

!logs

[eternal falcon]

📝 Logs

Documentation

Editor logs

Windows: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Unity\Editor\Editor.log
MacOS: ~/Library/Logs/Unity/Editor.log
Linux: ~/.config/unity3d/Editor.log

Unity Hub

Windows: %UserProfile%\AppData\Roaming\UnityHub\logs
Mac: ~/Library/Application support/UnityHub/logs
Linux: ~/.config/UnityHub/logs

[rocky canyon]

yea been messing around with it for a while.. originally i thought it was all rich text
then i realized the gap wasn't the issue.. and then when <color=red> worked i was like wtf.. and did more testing..
soo now i can definitivly say thats its b/c only the basic Color colors.. work

[digital kelp]

alright

[rocky canyon]

this is only half true now

[rich adder]

yeah big limitation

[rocky canyon]

if they overlap w/ Color ones ur fine 😄

[digital kelp]

tried looking into %TMP% but found nothing, only some old unity logs from several hours before my crashes

[rich adder]

if its code crashing it and not editor doubt you have cashlogs

[verbal dome]

If you don't want to type hex colors by hand you can convert from Color to hex with this:
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ColorUtility.ToHtmlStringRGB.html

I use it for stuff like LogColored(text, Color.red)

And LogColored would do the conversion in the method

[rich adder]

and if you need custom colors not a bad idea to go with the Const as I suggested to, thats what I do for my custom colors

    public static void Log(string msg) => Log(msg, MyColors.AnInterestingPurple);
public class MyColors
{
    public const string AnInterestingPurple = "#985bc9";
}```

[rocky canyon]

ya, thats what im doing for now

until it gets fixed.. and i can use richtext colors again.. altho i may just keep it like this

wait. i can include the # at the front of hexColor

nvm, just gonna make a function that returns the full interpolated string w/ the color code

[digital kelp]

Could someone explain this statement?

You wouldnt so happen to have your Node class extending monobehaviour would you? I found out the reason why my unity was stalling is because my Node class was extending monobehaviour and that why it seemed that there was an infinite loop.
What does extending monobehaviour mean in the code?

[naive pawn]

class Node : MonoBehaviour

[verbal dome]

Extending means inheriting from something. These are C# basics which I suggest learning

The stuff you quoted makes no sense to me though

I mean it does in a way, but just inheriting from MonoBehaviour does not introduce infinite loops

[naive pawn]

MonoBehaviour is for components, so if you have a class that isn't a component but inherits from MonoBehaviour, it could have some weird effects

[digital kelp]

Alright, so to avoid it I just remove the monobehaviour from "class node"

[naive pawn]

are you using it as a component?

[short hazel]

If it's not meant to be attached to a game object, it's not needed to derive from MonoBehaviour.

[digital kelp]

Alright

[naive pawn]

not all classes extend MonoBehaviour. MonoBehaviour is something unity uses, you extend it if you want to directly hand over the class to unity

[digital kelp]

Following a tutorial, Node is just a, idk what to call it, blueprint for the node type

[rich adder]

if you need it to be on a gameobject then it needs to be a component, otherwise regular object works fine

[naive pawn]

"node" is pretty broad

[rich adder]

if its for path finding it unlikely it needs to be MB

[digital kelp]

using it in a pathfinder script

[short hazel]

It's pretty much what all classes are, blueprints

[naive pawn]

"node" can refer to a single member of most structures, fyi

of data structures like trees or linked lists or graphs, or of more concrete structures like paths

[digital kelp]

yea, maybe not the best name ig

[naive pawn]

you could make it an inner class

[short hazel]

Not if it's used outside that outer class

Node is fine, PathNode if you'd want to be explicit

[naive pawn]

you could make it public

that aside though, IMO i'd have something enclosing the nodes and only have that manage the nodes directly

[short hazel]

That's not ideal, having to type the name of the outer class each time you need to access the inner class

[naive pawn]

yeah but would have you have to use the inner class outside

[short hazel]

Some classes do that, but they keep the inner class private and methods return that through an interface type

If you mark it public, you intend to

[naive pawn]

you don't have to though

i just mentioned that in case you would want to

[short hazel]

In that case take it out and move it to its own file

[naive pawn]

maybe what im thinking of doesn't make sense in this context, idk

[naive pawn]

yeah that's not the architecture im thinking of

what im thinking of is just not exposing the inner class at all

[timid oriole]

Hey guys I would like to learn more about unity's particles, trails, lighting and greyboxing, shaders and camera effects is there a full course I can purchase that covers all of these topics I'm familar with lighting a bit but thats all

[rocky canyon]

aye! 💪 gott'r fixed up

[naive pawn]

don't try to find paid courses to begin with, you likely won't need them. the internet is full of free info

[robust kelp]

!code

[eternal falcon]

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[summer stump]

Imo, if you pay for learning unity, you made a big mistake. Paying to go to college for computer science would be the only thing I would pay for in terms of development

[swift crag]

I have never used a paid Unity tutorial before, indeed

[rocky canyon]

i agree, you can easily find tutorials/ crash courses for each one of those topics.. get enough information under your belt to start experimenting on your own..
and then refine ur search/ investigate farther on specific area's that concern you

[swift crag]

unfortunately colleges produce some of the most violently cursed questions

people using Unity 2017

i'd love to teach game development at that level

[rich adder]

yeah a lot of CS grads cant write a single line to save their life

[swift crag]

but a lot of it is kinda uhhhh

mangled

[naive pawn]

SE is where it's at

[rich adder]

prefer EE myself

you dont need school for software

its a scam

[naive pawn]

EE is pain 😔

[rich adder]

true! fun as hell though (masochist? )

[naive pawn]

there's a lot of leaks at my school lmao...

pain in EE is not metaphorical

[rich adder]

forreal

[swift crag]

i did CS and chemistry in college and then pursued a doctoral CS degree, but it didn't realy agree with me

[rich adder]

it will shock you how painful it is

[robust kelp]

i added source engine movement and now i get stuck on slopes i would really appreciate if someone could find whats wrong with this code https://gdl.space/xojozahaji.cs

[swift crag]

i eventualy finished with a masters in CS after re-discovering my general enjoyment of game development

[naive pawn]

i mean, any subject can be literally painful if you bang your head against the desk enough

[eternal needle]

Depends entirely on the school. Usually SE near me just requires chem and physics for no reason first year. Then where I studied, they didnt even code much. Literally like 8 of the courses were drawing diagrams and "designing"

[naive pawn]

well, something i want to get better at tbh

[swift crag]

SE magic (:

draw that UML diagram

[naive pawn]

my design is... not great

my architecture is a mess

[swift crag]

Have you done any logging? That might help reveal where the math is going wrong

[tranquil scarab]

small question. if you use a spherecast does the raycasthit take the info of the first hit object? or can it be any of the hit objects

[swift crag]

Particualrly anything involving slopes

[swift crag]

you can use Debug.DrawLine and Debug.DrawRay to help visualize the vectors

[swift crag]

SphereCast can only hit one object

Are you thinking of what happens if the sphere starts out overlapping several objects?

[tranquil scarab]

yeah

[swift crag]

3D cast functions ignore colliders they start inside of

so the answer is...n/a

[tranquil scarab]

oh k tnx

[swift crag]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Physics.SphereCast.html

SphereCast will not detect colliders for which the sphere overlaps the collider. Passing a zero radius results in undefined output and doesn't always behave the same as Physics.Raycast.

[rich adder]

You can use overlap if you need to detect when inside already
Make sure you always use a non alloc of these functions, they are pretty allocative (just watch profiler)

[swift crag]

I've used a mix of the two

[timid oriole]

I mean

considering how low quality most unity tutorials a paid option for high quality doesn't sound bad at all

[eternal needle]

Ha. "High quality"

[slender nymph]

problem is, you won't know if it is high quality until after you have paid

[summer stump]

The problem is that the paid courses are not high quality

[timid oriole]

That's why reviews exist

This could be said for anything

[naive pawn]

are you going to check all of them out though

[summer stump]

There are none

[naive pawn]

for free stuff you can just skim em

[rich adder]

wrong

[summer stump]

And the free ones ARE generally high quality

[eternal needle]

You mean those reviews from people who just learned how to write Debug.Log, bought out reviews, reviews from the creators friends?

[summer stump]

It is ALWAYS a waste of money for this

[rich adder]

reviews can be easily faked with bots or paid "influencers"/reviewers

[naive pawn]

the popular free ones are high quality

[summer stump]

Honestly. Disagree

[naive pawn]

paid ones... i mean, sunk cost fallacy.

[timid oriole]

That is funny most of the unity tutorials follow the same formula which is copy down what I'm doing and I'll explain 5% of what I'm doing

[swift crag]

or people who think they got a great value

[summer stump]

Brackeys is very popular

[naive pawn]

in which direction

[naive pawn]

ah. yeah.

[swift crag]

yes, because 90% of everything is crap

[summer stump]

!learn

[eternal falcon]

:teacher: Unity Learn ↗

Over 750 hours of free live and on-demand learning content for all levels of experience!

[slender nymph]

and most of those probably have good reviews 😉

[timid oriole]

Aethenosity unity learn is absloute garbage they have you clicking a new video every 2 minutes

[edgy prism]

Hey just a quick question how would I go about lerping a cameras orthographic size?

[timid oriole]

Why don't they make one listen one lecture its very annoying

[summer stump]

That is a really embarrassing take

[swift crag]

because the videos are small and focused

[rich adder]

wouldn't it be better to listen devs with experience?
instead some prewritten reviews that say its good, a thing they obviously invested in?

[slender nymph]

the same way you go about lerping anything, really

[timid oriole]

Embarssing to think a multi million dollar company doesn't know how to format a video

[swift crag]

or maybe, just maybe

they did it that way for a reason

[eternal needle]

Your complaint about it has nothing to do with the actual lesson. This is just silly

[swift crag]

instead of making a horribly edited 3-hour long video tutorial

[raw token]

I rather liked the Junior Programmer Pathway. Most of the guidance is in the text, and where the videos were necessary you could just watch them at 2x speed

[timid oriole]

imagine it from my perspective I watch the video

then every 2 fucking minutes

I have to vote yes I watched it

[naive pawn]

i don't really like the videos tbh

[timid oriole]

then click a new one

[edgy prism]

Im sort of too dumb for that one because if I wanna lerp a vector2 I can go Vector2.Lerp but this is a float right and theres no float.Lerp

[naive pawn]

yeah this. this does not go well with ocd "i have to click each one" brain

[rich adder]

yes because its meant to be a step by step..

[swift crag]

i can't wait for summer vacation to be over

[timid oriole]

When I want to get in a long 6 hour or so study session it wastes so much time

[slender nymph]

did you google how to lerp a float in unity?

[naive pawn]

yall have vacation?

[eternal needle]

Now you see why reviews are trash. You hate the unity learn site because of something unrelated to the content. Also you know you can type your thoughts out THEN hit enter

[edgy prism]

Yes can I use Mathf in this example?

[rich adder]

thats not how the brain works

you dont overload with information for 6 hours

[slender nymph]

summer vacation is when all the kids who think they know everything come out in force and shitpost all over the server

[timid oriole]

The actual content from 3 courses I have done didn't explain anything worthwhile and assumed I knew nothing about how a computer operated

[naive pawn]

ok... but hear me out... what if i already know most of the info there and i want to just skim it

[rich adder]

ah yes summer just started, makes sense

[swift crag]

then you read the content on the page

videos are horrific for skimming

[naive pawn]

yeah

exactly

so like, why so many

[summer stump]

It's crazy but yeah some people don't
It is still the best course to start with

Then move onto catlike coding

[naive pawn]

i'm just supposed to trust there's nothing important that's only in the videos?

[timid oriole]

I don't agree fully he took WAY to long to explain basic things like moving around in unity project and hiarchy

It doesn't take longer than 5 minutes to comprehend all the basics and I sat there for over an hour

[rich adder]

the microsoft ones are also delivered in short bursts

[summer stump]

Skip essentials then...

[eternal needle]

Then you're looking at the wrong courses. Either way no one is physically stopping you from wasting your money on a paid course. We've seen lots of people who have done so. You seem to think that a price associated with it means quality. meanwhile I've seen friends in first year who didnt know what loops were publish python courses.

[swift crag]

you can also just read the manual

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/CreatingGameplay.html

[rich adder]

you realize is also meant to cater experiences of all types and of all Ages

[summer stump]

You can skip around as needed...
You are whining about nonissues

[naive pawn]

the manual is such a pain sometimes lmao. but yeah true

[swift crag]

I came into Unity with a very large amount of programming experience, so I didn't need too much help to figure out the editor

but getting a solid handle on the terms and concepts would have been helpful

[timid oriole]

I'm not saying I want a paid course I'm saying I want an in depth tutorial on actual non potato monkey brain conceps that are essential to game dev like greyboxing, particles, CoRoutines, Scene switching and like moving your characters rotation alongside a camera rotation and basing your movement off that

[naive pawn]

skipping around videos? yeah that doesn't really work

[summer stump]

False

[naive pawn]

^?

[summer stump]

Skipping a whole video I mean

[naive pawn]

can't really speed up audio and listen for keywords

[swift crag]

skipping over content, yes

that's fine, as long as the content is coherently split up

[naive pawn]

oh, yeah that makes more sense

[naive pawn]

..is it though

doesn't really feel like it

[timid oriole]

Skip ahead when I cant even use my arrows only my mouse

[summer stump]

In learn it is

[swift crag]

that's a load bearing "as long as" (:

[eternal needle]

Then really you'll just need to read the manuals, tutorials dont really exist like this. For the movement part, there are lots. Everything else you mentioned is clear on the unity docs and has code examples

[naive pawn]

lmao

[summer stump]

Oh my god, are you 10 years old? Lmfao
I'm done with you

[rich adder]

this isn't really stuff you learn through a particular 5 hour video..

[timid oriole]

How am I supposed to learn then stricly unity docs? Greyboxing is not easy at all.

[rich adder]

you learn through trial and error..and the docs..

[swift crag]

start putting some objects in your scene

[rich adder]

like any other human being does

[naive pawn]

the problem with this is that even if it's split, it's not clear how it's split, so no clue which i already know vs which i should watch

[swift crag]

you are now greyboxing

[warm thunder]

hey is there a way where u can use 1 animator to triger an animation of an other animator, i kinda need it for an attak animation

[swift crag]

You could use animation events here.

[naive pawn]

and the format really doesn't give confidence that it is split

[timid oriole]

I'm talking about the proper way of level design i don't want to develop bad habits and learn things the wrong way

I've put objects in my scene lol but I'm talking level design itself

[swift crag]

okay, that's a completely different question

[rich adder]

lookup people who talk about this stuff like GameMakersToolkit etc

[timid oriole]

Greyboxing a level is what I meant you are right not just in general

[naive pawn]

is there a 5hour article i can read

[swift crag]

i don't feel like you're going to get into "bad habits" with something as arbitrary and subjective as level design

i suppose i'd look at old GDC talks; they're useful for learning about specific niches

[naive pawn]

heh, yeah, anxiety is a strong force though

[rich adder]

probably if you read it slow enough

[timid oriole]

I'm looking at it now

[naive pawn]

the manual i guess, that's how long it's gonna take to comprehend lmao

[timid oriole]

don't see the greyboxing video tho but the channel only

[naive pawn]

man, why do the manual/docs vary in quality so much?

i mean, it isn't much, but it's more than i'd expect

[rich adder]

you mentioned about Game Design and Level design

also look up GDC talks, etc

[timid oriole]

I'm familar with level design but not the actual building itself lol

[rich adder]

yes was going to mention this

[naive pawn]

with values more 1 or less than zero clamped.

[timid oriole]

I'll take a look

[polar acorn]

Usually when Unity acquires some pre-existing asset and folds it into the unity ecosystem, they don't rewrite the documentation. That's why things like Cinemachine and TextMeshPro are significantly worse quality documentation than built in Unity stuff

[naive pawn]

like how did this get in

it doesn't give me confidence that the rest is well-written

[naive pawn]

and it's left to the specific maintainers to do?

[rich adder]

it would be nice if it wasn't true for the built in packages as well though

[timid oriole]

Is probuilder the optimal asset to download you guys think or nah

[naive pawn]

this is in Rect

[rich adder]

Tilemap was poorly documented
Sciptable Tiles etc

[swift crag]

is there a problem here?

[naive pawn]

oh yeah, that was a pain

[naive pawn]

the quality is questionable

[rich adder]

the coordinate system still confuses the shit out of me..all the stuff from RedBlobGames dont translate well to Unity tilemap

[naive pawn]

it's perfectly comprehensible, but if this simple stuff isn't getting vetted, what else isn't

[dense root]

There is no such thing as perfect documentation, you're free to try out other engines if you think Unity isn't adequate

[swift crag]

i guess i might edit it to more consistently use digits and words

but that's not exactly a fatal blow

[rich adder]

its just annoying when they lock their system to "Report link" on the page for adjustments..

[naive pawn]

it isn't, but it makes me question if a fatal blow would get in as easily

[rich adder]

it should be public documentation system like github

[dense root]

That would be really nice

[rich adder]

yes this way we can contribute to documentation, and fix some of the poorly written shit lol

[naive pawn]

im not asking for perfect documentation. but having this level of quality? for such a large engine?

[verbal dome]

Didn't vertx make a browser plugin that allows for community notes on the docs or something 🤔

[dense root]

Like I said before you're free to try out other engines and see if you like it more

[naive pawn]

that's far besides the point here

[dense root]

Not really.

[swift crag]

i have no idea what you're talking about

there's a very minor stylistic issue with how they wrote "1" and "zero"

[verbal dome]

Found it:
https://github.com/Developer-Notes-Extension

[swift crag]

are you seeing something I am not seeing?

[naive pawn]

that's just the most immediate example i found lol

[swift crag]

find a better example, then

this makes you look like you have no idea what you're talking about

[naive pawn]

there's a lot more that is written ambiguously, and the manual isn't much better

[naive pawn]

yeah, if only the docs could tell me accurately

[swift crag]

What?

I genuinely do not understand what you're going on about.

[naive pawn]

that's a sarcastic remark...

[swift crag]

it didn't work

[dense root]

No it isn't. It's a fact.

[naive pawn]

are we referring to the same message

[naive pawn]

i meant this

[swift crag]

i have plenty of problems with the documentation (e.g. it doesn't clearly describe how collision and trigger messages behave when a rigidbody is present)

[naive pawn]

yeah, that's about what im referring to

[swift crag]

collision messages only go to the rigidbody's object; trigger messages go to both the rigidbody's object and the collider's object

[swift crag]

it would be helpful to refer to it, then

[rich adder]

don't think anyone is denying that

[naive pawn]

i don't think i can quickly find examples for you if you really want me to, i haven't touched the docs in a month or so?

[swift crag]

instead of giving us an extremely confusing non-example and then further confusing everyone around you

[naive pawn]

yeah i probably couldve made it clearer that the "example" isn't directly related to the issues im referring to

that's just the one i found clicking a link someone else sent

[timber tide]

They cant write docs because the ones who built most of the engine are long gone ;p

[rich adder]

they aint lying

[naive pawn]

yeah my memory isn't perfect? i'd rather remember what i know rather than what the docs don't tell me

[rich adder]

Spline is a great package but also its very limited in documentation, same with Water, they're new so you can cut some slack there but doing all the guesswork "until it works" isn't fun

[naive pawn]

welp it's about to be 3am and i didn't find the method i was thinking of, so well, maybe idk what i'm talking about

[rocky canyon]

i dont understand..

[twin bolt]

Why is this not working, Its not going down to the 50 fov i gave it, its changing between 88-89 evertime i click. https://i.imgur.com/5yj7iL0.png

[wintry quarry]

Math.MoveTowards does not start a tweening process that happens over multiple frames

it is instant

and does what you tell it to do

[verbal dome]

It's trying to use your own class, which doesn't contain LogError.
I suggest renaming your own Debug class something else

[twin bolt]

Oh, so using tweening is alot better for this?

[wintry quarry]

if you want something to happen over multiple frames, you need to call it over multiple frames.

Tween frameworks simplify that for you

it's also possible in Update or a coroutine

[twin bolt]

This is in update

[wintry quarry]

yes but it's inside a WasPerformedThisFrame if statement

so it will only run for one frame

[rocky canyon]

naughty attribs can access unity's but not mine

viceversa-ly

[twin bolt]

Oh, so how can i make it run that if statement every frame?

[wintry quarry]

basically what you typically do is set the target value inside the thing that happens ONCE. Then in Update or a coroutine you do the frame-by-frame interpolation, aka calling MoveTowards etc

[rocky canyon]

which is odd to me.. b/c ofc i pull the the same calls to the same functions (1 from each) inside a namespace.. and it would pick up my class and not unity's..

[slender nymph]

NaughtyAttributes uses asmdefs, it will need a reference to the assembly your code is in

[rocky canyon]

yet it will in NaughtyAttribs

[wintry quarry]

e.g.

void Update() {
  if (clickedThisFrame) {
    target = something;
  }

  current = MoveTowards(current, target, Time.deltaTime * speed);
}``` this pattern @twin bolt

[twin bolt]

So dont put the movetowards within that if statement?

[rocky canyon]

true.. but thats just the comparison i made thats vice-versa of the question..

analogy.. b/c in my script im working in now.. i dont declare either class and even if i have using UnityEngine i have to specify it

UnityEngine.Debug

i need to look up extension methods i think

and see what they do

[slender nymph]

if you are working within a namespace that has a type with the name Debug in it declared, then it will attempt to use that type rather than the one in the other namespace unless you either alias it or specify the fully qualified name of the type

[rocky canyon]

vs, what trickery this is

[rocky canyon]

i'd be fine with referencing it's functions via a namespace

[verbal dome]

You can't add extension methods to a static class (Debug) if that's what you're thinking

[slender nymph]

i don't even know what you mean by that

[rocky canyon]

nvm, i think i talked my way thru it

it doesnt need to be static if i do what im thinking of doing

namespace.Debug.Function(); <-- i do that and then i can
Debug.LogError(); <-- use unity's w/o worrying.

[verbal dome]

Wouldn't it be less confusing to use a unique name for your class, instead of Debug?

[rocky canyon]

i thought i could combine them

[rocky canyon]

i can.. that would solve the entire issue lol

but having it Debug was kinda a plot point

but i can rename it..

[verbal dome]

You can name it Debug but it won't be the same Debug and you can get name clashes

[twin bolt]

Okay this is what i have, and it works how i want, but now the zoom works on its own, at the very start, then its controlled by the mouse after. How can i fix this? https://i.imgur.com/ML08YSm.png

[rocky canyon]

i was thinking i could :
using Debug = UnityEngine.Debug;
and then, use MyStuff.Debug.Log(); (when i needed that), but i had to find out the hard way that i couldn't just mark it static b/c it worked at first.. until i needed Unity's and realized it wasn't consistent anymore

[wintry quarry]

just make sure to set the target FOV to the appropriate thing at the start. You should really have a targetFOV variable

[rocky canyon]

does it begin as zoomed?

[twin bolt]

No, it zooms the way i it would normally zoom if i clicked, but on its own, only at the start.

[hidden heath]

I'm going to give a word of advice for any beginners.
Please don't do:
if (exampleBool == false)
Please do:
if (!exampleBool)
It's basically the same but it's a lot easier to do the second one.

[polar acorn]

It's the first step to realizing that an if statement doesn't take a condition, it takes a boolean

[hidden heath]

Yeah.

[languid spire]

why would you offer this completely irrelevant and unnecessary advice?

[polar acorn]

You don't need a == or a < or whatever for an if statement, you can use any boolean variable

[polar acorn]

Eh, I still think it's good to bring up, or people won't know to stop doing it

[austere monolith]

whats the component with the text in a tmpro text? like if you wanted to use

public TextMeshProUGUI text;

text.(component for accessing text)

[polar acorn]

text

[languid spire]

it is completely and utterly irrelevant

[polar acorn]

Yeah but we offer unrelated "Hey don't have an answer for your specific problem but I notice this thing that you could change" advice all the time

including you

[languid spire]

not on that scale I do not

ffs if (a == true) or if(a) I mean who gives a shit?

[austere monolith]

whats like a code holder website

i forgot

[polar acorn]

You know I'd think you'd be most on board with this. Didn't every character count back when you had to solder every individual instruction onto a chip and walk it into the computer room

[polar acorn]

!code

[eternal falcon]

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To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
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[languid spire]

Then you misunderstand me, I care about the code that actually gets executed, what it looks like in source code I could not give a shit

[austere monolith]

https://hastebin.com/share/ogayizodon.csharp its saying gameobject im trying to access is destroyed, but thats the point

[polar acorn]

Which line? Is it Cube or Text that is getting destroyed?

[verbal dome]

Are you trying to use activeSelf to check if it is destroyed?

[austere monolith]

its the cube getting destroyed and im trying to use activeself to check if its destroyed yeah

[verbal dome]

That's not what it's for:
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/GameObject-activeSelf.html

[polar acorn]

A destroyed object is not active or inactive, it simply doesn't exist. If you want to check if it's destroyed check if it's null or not

[austere monolith]

oh i dont know why i didnt think of that

its late

[covert cairn]

You seem fun at parties

[austere monolith]

is there some reason why the text isnt working

im tryna figure that out

[languid spire]

I don't do parties, I do code, So no, I'm no fun whatsoever

[austere monolith]

dang

[rocky canyon]

I figured it out

[austere monolith]

that looks like it has good potential keep going!

[rocky canyon]

soo, I wrapped my Custom Debug class inside a namespace..
(and i kept it static, renamed it a bit) and then at teh top of the script
using Debug = renamedCustomDebug;
and then i can use my custom debugs w/ Debug.Log() and Unity's when i need an error or something is just UnityEngine.Debug.Log()

[rocky canyon]

thnks thats the speed at which my AI make decisions i was jsut triyng to visualize it a little better

actually half that b/c i added in debugs inbetween the other debugs lol

[hasty sleet]

Imagine running all of your code through an obfuscator before committing it to prod

Minimizing code since the implication is every character counts

Well minimizer might be a better word than obfuscator. They look similar to me

[dry tendon]

How could i adjust the limit of the circle of the slider?

[summer tree]

I think it is unreasonable to write your code in the most minimal way to increase performance, unless you are making a God Of War I don't think there will be a noticeable difference between writing "condition" or "condition == true".

[summer stump]

"unless you are making a God of War"?

Why would that change things?
And no, neither would affect performance. They would compile to the same thing

Didn't look like anyone mentioned performance either. There was mention of character limits long long ago though

[summer tree]

"unless you are making a God of War"?
If you're making a big game, even the smallest details that affect performance becomes important.

[summer tree]

oh okay than, I misunderstood

[eternal needle]

this isnt how performance works. people think less lines = better and they are silly

[summer tree]

I think so

[swift crag]

ah, I know this one -- gimme a minute

[summer stump]

Well, as said, that would not affect performance.
And you would be suprised at how many unperformant things are in big games like God of War haha

[swift crag]

this is a #📲┃ui-ux problem, so i will answer it over there

[dry tendon]

oops, i didn't realise about that

thanks!

[inland monolith]

so I have my canvas set so that it scales with the size of the widow but the issue is that the game objects themselves dont abide by this rule since they're not ui is there a way to make them like the canvas?

[swift crag]

It sounds like you're trying to do something weird here

non-UI renderers are being viewed through a camera

and the camera will not "zoom out" (orthographic) or widen its field of view (perspective) just because you increased your resolution

[inland monolith]

youre so right for that

[inland monolith]

This is what I mean

[swift crag]

Are you trying to draw a background?

[swift crag]

I can't really make anything out from that

[inland monolith]

like the before and after of it

like If I change the window of the game it moves the game objects itself

or doesnt ig so it creates weird overlap but yes its supposed to be a background

[swift crag]

don't parent your non-UI objects to the canvas

[inland monolith]

they arent

[swift crag]

Show me the inspector for one of these objects -- and post it in #📲┃ui-ux

this is a UI problem

[worthy merlin]

Are you able to change the "Element 0" when a class is being added to a list of classes. I'd like them to say Wave 0 instead

[timber tide]

Yes you can. How? I forget the exact details but probably related to #↕️┃editor-extensions

[worthy merlin]

Was kinda hoping to avoid custom editor based changes but if thats something that can't be changed with ordinary coding logic then so be it.

[polar acorn]

It'll use the value of the first serialized String field

So you can give it a name field and it'll display that

[timber tide]

Oh does that work on list indicies? I know it does work on serialized struct/classes

[polar acorn]

This looks like a list of some sort of serialzied struct

so it'd work for that

[timber tide]

if so, I guess you can serialize and hide the string value, then increment it with OnValidate

[livid oxide]

Hi so rn im making a clicker type game where when you get to 1000 it makes th number 1.00K. For some reason its rounding the third decimal and I can't find a way to stop it from rounding. Do you know how I could fix it?

[wintry quarry]

Wdym by rounding the third decimal

[livid oxide]

so as you can see in the first image the amount of stars i have is 1045 but its saying i have 1.05K in the text so i presume its rounding to the second decimal place being 1.05K when it should still be 1.04K

[wintry quarry]

Also critical information here would be: what is the data type for stars

[livid oxide]

oh sorry it is a float

[wintry quarry]

There's probably some formatting setting in here somewhere https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/standard/base-types/standard-numeric-format-strings

But you could also ask for one extra digit and just cut off the last one

But float is almost definitely not going to be sufficient for a clicker game

If it's exponential like most

[livid oxide]

ok thank you

[wintry quarry]

Most people use something like this https://github.com/Razenpok/BreakInfinity.cs for clickers

[livid oxide]

thank you that helps alot actually imma read through these properly now

[agile bison]

Is Microsofts C# documentation sufficent enough to get proficent in C# or would you need something to suppliment it?

[wintry quarry]

Documentation is reference material
It's not for studying or reading cover to cover

it's for looking things up as needed

it will not teach you C#

[frosty hound]

You don't read documentation to get proficient, it's reference material. It's enough to use yes, alongside normal Google.

[wintry quarry]

That would be like trying to learn English by reading the Dictionary

[agile bison]

Gotcha

[wintry quarry]

Here's a good resource to learn C# https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/learn/csharp

[agile bison]

Thanks

[digital cave]

I have a parent game object, it has only rigidbody and on trigger enter script attached to it and I also have child game object that is attached to parent game object. My child object has collider with isTrigger turned on and its also tagged with MyTag1. I am trying to detect MyTag1 on trigger enter, however no matter what I try I cant make it work. The issue this the obstacles that enters the trigger detects the parents tag instead of the child. The only solution I found is this, which is a really bad solution since it relies on objects positions in the hierarchy. How can I solve this issue and detect my child objects tag from a parent. (I don't want to attach a script into my child objects)

    void OnTriggerEnter(Collider other)
    {
        // Example 1
        Collider[] myCollider = GetComponentsInChildren<Collider>();
        
        if (myCollider[0].gameObject.CompareTag("MyTag1"))
        {
            //This works but it relies on hierarchy position, which is really bad.
        }
        
        // Example 2
        if (CompareTag("MyTag1"))
        {
            //This doesn't work.
        }

        // Example 3
        if (other.CompareTag("MyTag1"))
        {
            //This doesn't work.
        }

        
        // Example 4
        if (gameObject.tag == "MyTag1")
        {
            //This doesn't work.
        }

        // Example 5
        if (other.gameObject.tag == "MyTag1")
        {
            //This doesnt work.
        }

        // Example 6
        foreach(Collider collider in myColliders)
        {
            if(collider.gameObject.CompareTag("MYTag1"))
            {
                //This also works, but I feel like there is a easier and better way to achieve this.
            }
        }
    }

[timber tide]

// Example 3
if (other.CompareTag("MyTag1"))
{
    //This doesn't work.
}

Is this what you're trying to do? If so then the targ on the collider object is incorrect then

[digital cave]

It's not, I've checked it million times

[eternal needle]

it looks like you're trying to differentiate between which collider is entered, in which case you need a script on the child objects. Your code right now doesnt really make sense because you're just trying to check if any child collider has a certain tag

[digital cave]

It works when it's not a child object

[swift crag]

My child object has collider with isTrigger turned on and its also tagged with MyTag1. I am trying to detect MyTag1 on trigger enter

This does not make sense. The collider you get is the other collider in the trigger overlap, not your own

[swift crag]

and yes, you have to do this

Trigger messages don't tell you which collider caused the overlap on your side

[digital cave]

I see, the only way to achieve this without actually adding a script into my child object is this then;

        Collider[] myCollider = GetComponentsInChildren<Collider>();

        foreach(Collider collider in myColliders)
        {
            if(collider.gameObject.CompareTag("MYTag1"))
            {
                //This also works, but I feel like there is a easier and better way to achieve this.
            }
        }

[eternal needle]

no, this makes no sense to do

[swift crag]

this doesn't actually tell you anything about the trigger overlap

[eternal needle]

Anytime any child collider is entered, you're gonna be looping through every single collider and checking if one has MYTag1. This is useless, you still dont know which one actually was used in the collision

[digital cave]

Oh, yeah that's correct. Added two tags and just noticed it triggers both

So the only logical way to do this, is to add a script into my childs?

[formal escarp]

Hey. I need help understanding a tutorial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNL4WYgvwd8 in the minute 4:06 bro is calling a var called "healthComponent" but he never made one? i dont really get that part. can some1 explain?

[eternal needle]

you should do basics of c# first, this is just a variable name

[formal escarp]

i know its a variable name

i literally said that.

[eternal needle]

then whats the issue?

[timber tide]

It's already instantiated, he does GetComponent to grab the reference as it's on the gameobject

https://i.imgur.com/NUYcQN3.png

When inserted onto the gameobject, it's basically doing new()

[formal escarp]

ooohhh

[digital cave]

He is creating a var healthComponent and it's equals to collisions Health (it's referenced to Health script), so basically it's getting the Health of a collided object

[formal escarp]

now i get it.. thanks mao.

[digital cave]

If I understood it right

[wintry quarry]

He's not "calling" the var he's literally declaring the variable on that line (line 32)

[eternal needle]

that tutorial calling that parameter name collision is definitely questionable, considering its just a collider

hitCollider.GetComponent would be way more understandable for beginners

[formal escarp]

bro tryna act like he the coder or something 😭

[eternal needle]

i have no clue what you mean by that, and dont really wanna know either

[digital cave]

About this, I've made a partial class that contains on trigger events and attached it into my child objects that I want to check on trigger events. For some reason I was so sure that handling it in one script was a thing

[eternal needle]

you dont really need partial here unless you just mean a small class for the code

[dense root]

What's the best way to delay the response for a few seconds so the player can actually read the correct response being told?

    void CheckAnswer(int index)
    {
        if (answerText[index].text == answerKey[hiraganaArray[0]])
        {
            correctResponse.text = "Correct";
            ExitBattle();
        }
        else
        {
            correctResponse.text = "Wrong";
        }
    }

[polar acorn]

Coroutine

[fickle wagon]

Is it possible to move an object with the speed of light? As time froze and mass became infinite.

[night mural]

only if you want it to come out at a different point in time

[digital cave]

    public IEnumerator ResponseDelay(float secondsToWait)
    {
        //Do whatever
        yield return new WaitForSecondsRealtime(secondsToWait); //Wait
        // Do whatever
    }

void MyFunction()
{
StartCoroutine(ResponseDelay());
}

[ripe forge]

unity based: unity coroutines

c# native: async/await and use a delay (or unitask, which makes it more gamedev compliant)

c#, but fancier: UniRx/R3 and make a timer there

main advantage of tasks/async as well as reactive extensions is, they're not tied to monobehaviours, so you can run your delays in plain c# scripts. StartCoroutine is a function tied to monobehaviour, so you either need to derive your class from it, pass one around or run it against a static reference somewhere

but they also have their pitfalls, cancellation needs more boilerplate and if you're not careful it does not propagate exceptions

[night mural]

or just...keep track of a timer and then you can modify the amount left really easily and it's very simple and clear

[cyan folio]

@summer stump ```cs
using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class FollowPlayer : MonoBehaviour
{
public GameObject player;
private Vector3 offset = new Vector3(0, 120, -120);

// Start is called before the first frame update
void Start()
{
    
}

// Update is called once per frame
void LateUpdate()
{
    transform.position = player.transform.position + offset;
}

}```

[eternal needle]

this doesnt look like a code question

id:browse

[summer stump]

Ok, so that offset is highly suspect. 120 meters up and 120 meters forward?

[cyan folio]

Which one's up and which one's forward?

[summer stump]

Y is up and Z is forward

X, Y, Z

When you put that script on the target before, what happened?

[cyan folio]

@summer stump Good news, I fixed the coordinates and can now see the sphere. The bad news is that the ground is being clipped for some reason.

[charred spoke]

Last time I checked it is not possible to move a object with mass at the speed of light

[summer stump]

Try reducing the near clip plane

[cyan folio]

@summer stump Good news, I fixed the coordinates and can now see the sphere. The bad news is that the ground is being clipped for some reason.

[summer stump]

Hmm, you seem to have just repeated yourself

Did you see my previous response?

Try reducing the near clip plane

[cyan folio]

Sorry, internet trouble

[summer stump]

Ah, no worries

[cyan folio]

Still doesn't work, even if I set it to 0.1

[spare mountain]

@cyan folio does the ground reappear with a faraway camera?

also is this an orthographic camera?

[cyan folio]

Yes this is an orthographic camera. Also how do I make it "faraway", Just change the XYZ?

[spare mountain]

oh yeah if it's orthographic and your plane is going through the camera it's gonna clip

just move your camera or move your plane

[keen parcel]

How can I make a loop that has a delay between outputs

[eternal needle]

#763499475641172029

[spare mountain]

I thought this was the blender server 🙀

myb

[gleaming ember]

quick question i work throu a tutorial and he just set linear drag on 0 so gravaty works but my player (sqare) just drop down very slowly can someone explain to me why and how to fix?

[spare mountain]

#🔎┃find-a-channel this isn't a coding question

[gleaming ember]

idk but i thought its definitly a beginner problem 😅 but yes if you want me to ask somewhere else

is its editor extentions or input system ?

[summer stump]

Drag isn't gonna have anything to do with it

This likely IS a code question

Are you setting velocity in your movment code?

If so, are you passing 0 as the y component?

[gleaming ember]

yes

[summer stump]

Are you making an editor extension script? Then no, of course not. Also you are not using the input system, you are using the input manager.

Just for future reference.

I think they were directing you to #💻┃unity-talk or perhaps #⚛️┃physics

But that would be incorrect for this

[summer stump]

If your vertical input is 0, then you are setting y velocity to 0. Thus you fall slowly

[gleaming ember]

my vertical input is then 0 when i dont press a key isnt it? but in the tutorial they wrote the same Code (more or less he didnt add a vertical factor) so is that my misstake?

[summer stump]

my vertical input is then 0 when i dont press a key isnt it?
Correct

but in the tutorial they wrote the same Code (more or less he didnt add a vertical factor) so is that my misstake?
Not sure how they did it. Adding the factor shouldn't be the issue. When there is no input, you are repeatedly setting the vertical velocity to 0, which logically is an issue. Because moving down at just over 0 m/s (because you WILL still fall a little until you reset it each frame) is a lot less than 9.81 m/s

Sorry to run out btw. But I'm just heading to bed. Hope that makes sense

[gleaming ember]

ok yes just checkt his code again he add a code i didnt add that could fix this thanks alot

[signal cosmos]

,,daca cineva lucreaza la midnightworks dati-mi un raspuns''

[rich adder]

english only server

[signal cosmos]

Please leave the message, it's dedicated :))

[rich adder]

if anyone works at midnightworks, give me an answer

ok?

[eternal needle]

not even a code question, what an odd place to post that

[rich adder]

u think someone from midnightworks will casually see this here wtf

[signal cosmos]

The probability is higher, you're correct, it won't happen again

[rich adder]

well through some research they come up as a shady publisher

[signal cosmos]

I want to catch someone who claims they're always on this chat and reads all the messages

[rich adder]

they come up as a scam publisher so now idea why you'd want to

[signal cosmos]

hmm interesting

[rich adder]

anyway not code related so time to move on

[signal cosmos]

Honestly, I didn't have a super-defined goal, I just wanted to test a person who always claims to be on this chat and works there

Anyway, let's forget about this topic; indeed, it was absurd

[acoustic grove]

hi, does anyone know why I can access a gameobject inside start and fixedupdate but not in a new method?

[astral falcon]

? There is literally no difference how you access a gameobject no matter what method its in

[acoustic grove]

well when i try to access it from a new method, it says null reference

with the exact same code

[rich adder]

show code

[zinc shuttle]

gyroscope keeps changing its direction
somtimes it works, somtimes zaxis is 90degree fliped, somtimes its inverted.
how do i solve this

[acoustic grove]

(i was looping through the components cause I was at my wits end, but the component does exist and is attached)

[green ether]

which line is Player:231

[acoustic grove]

obj.HandlePhaseAdvance();

[green ether]

Is there a reason you are getting the component like that?

GetComponent<PlayerAgent>().HandlePhaseAdvance();
will do the same as all the code above no?

[acoustic grove]

I was losing my mind wondering if it was even attached so I was looping

but yes, it will do the same, but currently it also gives a null reference

[rich adder]

why not just assign in inspector

[acoustic grove]

like I can access it in start() and fixed update()

because its just a script thats attached to my player

I tried in the GUI and it still threw the same error

[rich adder]

why are you looping through components like that

[acoustic grove]

because I was worried it wasnt attached so I wanted to check that it was

but I cant access it directly either

[astral falcon]

So your obj is null, did I get this right?

[acoustic grove]

in start, both the loop and direct access work, in my new method, neither works

[rich adder]

use TryGetComponent at minimum
but fix the object being null in the first place

[acoustic grove]

yes my obj is null

well thats the thing

its not null in start

[astral falcon]

where do you set it?

[rich adder]

you have to figure out why its going nul then

[acoustic grove]

well yeah

thats why im asking

is ther a difference

[astral falcon]

Are you destroying it?

[acoustic grove]

between fixedupdate and methjods outside

no

[astral falcon]

no

no difference at all. if the object is gone, you are destroying it or overriding it with a null value

[rich adder]

first can you just look for the component better

[astral falcon]

What is PlayerAgent? Can you show the script?

[acoustic grove]

yes sorry

[eternal needle]

!code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[rich adder]

where is obj assigned though

[acoustic grove]

sorry was too long for code block

I was assigning obj with getcomponent<PlayerAgent>()

in start()

[burnt vapor]

FYI, SerializeField has no effect on fields that are already public. It is for private fields.

[acoustic grove]

thanks, I didnt write this haha

I didnt write the actual game code, Im trying to put an ml agent in it

https://pastecode.io/s/bipovbv1

[rich adder]

this isn't the Player script

[acoustic grove]

someone asked for PlayerAgent

https://pastecode.io/s/2d5yzg19

[eternal needle]

modding or decompiling is against server rules #📖┃code-of-conduct if thats what you're referring to

[astral falcon]

just wanted to make sure, its not destroying itself

[acoustic grove]

no, its not a real game,dont woryr

[rich adder]

if its on the same object make a reference in the inspector for obj

[green ether]

Modding is against server rules??

[rich adder]

no, talking about modding a game is

not your own project

[green ether]

ah

got me cofused for a second

[acoustic grove]

it's a script

[rich adder]

wdym its a script

its literally null

[acoustic grove]

it's a script thats attached to the playerobject

[rich adder]

i would check the scene for t:Player, make sure you only have 1 and not 2

[acoustic grove]

how do I do that?

[rich adder]

type what i wrote on the search bar of hierarchy

[eternal needle]

what navarone said, but also generally people dont help with it here. its a pain because the person usually has no clue what they're doing and cant even show if other things are affecting what their issue is.

[acoustic grove]

yes, Player exists

[rich adder]

huh?

obviously

I said check for 2 of them

[acoustic grove]

oh

yes

I only have 1

[rich adder]

show the entire inspector for object Player script is on

[rich adder]

this is the player in the scene?

[acoustic grove]

yes

[rich adder]

put this in Start

//Start()
obj = gameObject.GetComponent<PlayerAgent>();
Debug.Log($"Found " + obj, gameObject);

//UpdatePhase
Debug.Log($"using obj " + obj, gameObject);
obj.HandlePhaseAdvance();
Debug.Log($"used obj " + obj, gameObject);

put these two logs

[rich adder]

when you click using obj log does it take you to the same object

[acoustic grove]

no, it appears to be empty

[rich adder]

try make the reference of obj private see if anything changes

maybe you have another script setting it

[acoustic grove]

same thing sadly

I think it's something to do with the ml-agents plugin but I dont know enough about it

[astral falcon]

Put something on your playeragent script in OnDestroy like a debug log and see if and when its gonna happen

[acoustic grove]

It's definitely not getting destroyed because the other functions inside it are being called

I put it in the ondestroy and it only got called when I stopped the game

[astral falcon]

Can you show the result for all references of obj?

[acoustic grove]

is that in the code or gui?

[astral falcon]

in your IDE, visual studio for example

right click on obj and find all references

[acoustic grove]

5 references, 1 asset reference

[astral falcon]

Check those places. Does any of those set a new obj somewhere?

[green ether]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?