💻┃code-beginner

[deft grail]

and then read the error

[cosmic dagger]

what is the signature for FinalGrade? look at the method you are trying to call . . .

[deft grail]

and then i wonder whos idea it was for people to be making school projects without a clue what the fuck they are doing

and i realised scrolling up that you dont even use value in the FinalGrade method so that is pointless, may as well remove it

then this error would be gone too

[regal bear]

"though one benefit is with a database, you can access and change your games data outside of Unity" isnt that a bad thing? i mean ofc its a singleplayer game so doesnt matter, but with that anybody can easy modify the database, so for example you can add a lot damage to a starter weapon so u broke the game?

[summer stump]

If it isn't singleplayer, that database would be on a server

They meant that YOU, the DEVELOPER could change it outside of unity

[regal bear]

i know, i talk about a hobby project, a singleplayer rpg, and i asked if can i use something like a database thing, and i got NoSQL as a recommendation 😄 but yes make sense, got that thanks 😄

[summer stump]

Ok, well if something is singleplayer, then the users will always be able to modify that starter weapon, no matter what you do

Only server validation will prevent it

[regal bear]

Thats true, i just tought avoid cheating a little bit will be a good idea, but since its a singleplayer game, if ppl can do like flyhack damagehack etc, maybe sometimes thats just extends the gameplay time, cuz you can try different things, and also it doesnt hurt anybody else game.

[feral moss]

Hey so follow-up on this (I haven't really had the free time to code recently), I was trying to figure out how to create a PBR Graph according to the steps on there but I couldn't find it. A post I found says it was renamed to Lit Graph in v10, but I can't find that either. Has it been renamed again prior to the current version?

[strong condor]

Is there a way to flip Box Collider2D in code similar to Flip Sprite?

Or is the only simple way is to change the local scale of the object?

[deft grail]

its a box, flipping it to where?

[strong condor]

flipping the x axis *

flipping the box collider on the x axis to be exact

[frigid sequoia]

Changing plataforms on the project's build settings has any effect over the project itself or it is just sorta of a export setting?

[deft grail]

not really, shouldnt have any affect

[frigid sequoia]

Like I can build WebGL temporal builds to share and test and then change it back to Windows, Mac and Linux with no issue right?

[deft grail]

yeah

[regal bear]

As a beginner, how should i plan my development? Want to make a singleplayer 3D rpg, just a hobby project nothing big, this will be my first game, but i don't know how should i plan, What should i do first? character movement, the world, the menu, the hud? Can you suggest me smthng?

[deft grail]

the player always, a weapon and an enemy maybe

[summer stump]

Generally it is just more enjoyable to start with movement.
It really doesn't matter, but in a philosophical way, it makes sense to do the things that give you joy first

Do easier tasks, take it in bite sized pieces. You don't want to get discouraged

But also be prepared to refactor huge chunks as you go hahaha

[deft grail]

have you not done anything yet?
you asked the 1st question idk how long ago even probably like 10 hours?
you could have the player already created

[regal bear]

nah maybe just 2 3 hours ago. but no, im working right now, (nightshift) playing some games, and try to get my ideas together, first i don't want to just do something, then i fck up and need to start all over again, thats why i just thinking about things right now

[deft grail]

ok makes sense, if this is your first game then you will start again multiple times probably anyway

you start by starting and doing things 1 by 1

[regal bear]

i already did a few little things, like topdown shooter (only movement and shooting) and things like that, smaller but working projects, a year ago, but i forgot a lot things

[deft grail]

would be better and easier to start 2d but doesnt really matter too much

[regal bear]

I want to make a 2d topdown roguelike shooter back then maybe a year ago. Was fine i really enjoyed learning unity, but when i want to make a procedural generated dungeon map, i just can't figure it out after a week, and i just stopped cuz motivation fade out sadly. That was my bad, if i stick to a static map, maybe i already finished that game

[deft grail]

motivation will be gone when you are stuck looking at an empty project thinking you want this and that especially hard mechanics when you dont know even basics, which is why you need to do things 1 by 1.
create a static map, player, enemies, weapons, inventory, then work on trying to generate simple stuff like enemy spawns then you can do generating maps

and all of this will take weeks/months even not just a couple days

[regal bear]

Yes i know that, maybe i developet that little game for like a month, and i really enjoyed since that was my first experience in game dev, and when i figure out stuff, i really felt good, but when i can't did the random generation for a week, not a single bit of progress, that killed my mood. But now i know that was my bad, as u said i need to do small things first, not like building a car simulator with realistic car crashes etc..

okay now im starting unity, try to get the basic simple things, like player, movement, small things ty for all of your tips

[ruby ember]

i got an issue with new record part is that it everything works but it dosen't add the right record even is saved

[deft grail]

it should show 10:10 but its showing 06:11?

[deft grail]

put the StartCoroutine after setting the text

[ruby python]

!code

[eternal falcon]

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[deft grail]

like you did in the else statement

[ruby python]

Hi all,

So, I'm using the following method to randomise the knots on a spline (random x/y, 'relative' z to stay the same). But as the spline is inside a circular tunner I need to normalise the x/y compenent so that the spline doesn't clip outside of the tunnel, but I'm struggling a little bit. Any pointers please?

    void RandomiseSplineTargetObjects()
    {
        // Randomise Spline Shape HERE
        for (int i = 1; i < bezierKnots.Length - 1; i++)
        {
            Vector3 knotTargetRandomPosition = new Vector3(knotTargetsOriginalPosition[i].x + Random.Range(-10f, 10f), knotTargetsOriginalPosition[i].y + Random.Range(-10f, 10f), knotTargets[i].position.z);
            knotTargets[i].position = knotTargetRandomPosition;
            bezierKnots[i].Position = knotTargets[i].localPosition;
            path.Spline.SetKnot(i, bezierKnots[i]);
        }
    }

[ruby python]

Also, really hate to be 'that guy' but please post actual code and not a screenshot, makes things a lot easier. 😕

Knot locations for reference....

[grizzled zealot]

Is there a way in the "Script Execution Order" settings to use wildcards? I want to execute everything that matches *Model* before I execute *View*.

[fierce shuttle]

AFAIK, the Script Execution Order cannot take wildcards like that, though you could either have a "initializer" script that you add to Script Execution Order, that script can then either hold a reference to existing Models, or find them in the scene, then call a function on them where you can handle initialization - or each Model can fire a event when its ready, and your Views can subscribe and wait till the event is fired before doing work with your dependencies, or you can look into other dependency injection approaches

[grizzled zealot]

I currently have that. I use the Factory Pattern to instantiate objects. What's bugging me is that I add 20+ component scripts to an object before it's done. I was hoping that by adding it to the prefab, I can save some time and reduce code. However, the order in which the components get added matters.

[slender nymph]

the order in which the components get added matters
that's certainly a design problem. the objects should not be accessing other objects until Start at the earliest, which will happen way after all of the components have been added (assuming you are not spreading that work out over several frames)

use Awake to initialize an object's own variables/properties and Start to access others and you won't run into initialization issues and won't have to fuck with execution order

[rich mountain]

https://gyazo.com/f7b06fe24895d9b6259a4dc9d4bbe0eb
how do i get my last animation off the screen?

[slender nymph]

alternatively, you can use the DefaultExecutionOrder attribute on the base class for your Models and Views (assuming that they each share some base class) and that attribute will be inherited. but the first suggestion is the better one

[slender nymph]

this is a code channel. but you can make that go away the same way you made it appear

[frigid sequoia]

Well my WebGL is not building at all, why can this be?

[slender nymph]

#🌐┃web

and make sure to actually provide details

[grizzled zealot]

Seems like I got something fundamentally wrong. awake is called before start?

[rich mountain]

Adding a new timeline with no text?

[grizzled zealot]

You're correct: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ExecutionOrder.html

[slender nymph]

yes, Awake and OnEnable are both called immediately upon instantiation of the gameobject/component. Start will be called either later in the frame or even the next frame (but certainly before Update is called) depending on when during the frame you actually instantiated the object

[frigid sequoia]

Not that I have any, I select a folder, it shows the bar building and then it just sends a finish windows sound and it is not built; no error showed anywhere

[grizzled zealot]

Is it guaranteed that all start have been called, before any one update is called on the created object? For example, if I add 5 components, is it guaranteed that all 5 components finished start before anyone gets the update call?

[slender nymph]

if they are all instantiated at the same time, then yeah that should be the case

[rocky gale]

https://hastebin.com/share/enikuzuxiy.csharp why does it stop on first attack, swing 2 and 3 bools are never set to true i followed a tutorial btw

[ruby python]

!code

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[ruby ember]

https://hastebin.com/share/iqosoziyef.csharp

i guess like this

[grizzled zealot]

I can confirm that this is not guaranteed. I have a script already in the update function with another script not yet finishing the start function. So even if all the components are added in the same frame, it's not guaranteed that they all finish their start before any of them gets an update call.

[ruby python]

Okay, so remind me of the issue please?

[ruby ember]

everything works but

the record time is not the same even is saved

for example: new record 10:10

Your time: 00:35

Best Time: 10:10

but i got a different record like 06:11 in best time but is not supposed to be like this

[ruby python]

Okay, first thing, I would highly recommend getting this, so you can check what is actually in playerPrefs.

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/utilities/playerprefs-editor-167903

[slender nymph]

it's not about whether they are added in the same frame. as something instantiated early on in the frame may have its Start method called that frame while something instantiated later in the frame may not have it called until the next frame. they theoretically should have their start methods called at about the same time if they were instantiated at the same time. of course you really shouldn't have to rely on other object's Awake/Start methods being called before an object's Update method is called. that indicates you are either not checking that everything has been initialized, or you are designing the system very poorly and everything is way too tightly coupled

[ruby ember]

ok

what's the second thing do you know the glitch of the timer?

[grizzled zealot]

It's Model-View-Presenter. Each is it's own script. If you add the three components, but the Presenter runs update without the View having finished start, you're bound to have a couple of NullReferenceExceptions.

Now I can add a check for if(! initialized) return; in the View, but that adds overhead to every method call for something that's only needed once.

[slender nymph]

my guy, a single boolean check is not going to make any difference in performance so the "overhead" for that is almost nonexistent

but also consider the observer pattern instead of relying on execution order. events > constant polling in Update

[ruby python]

I think I might.

This line.....

TimerBestTime.text = PlayerPrefs.GetFloat("BestTime", Time.TimerCount).ToString("00:00");

You're sending the 'raw float' from PlayerPrefs to the text field, not the properly formatted version like you're doing here.

    float minutes = Mathf.FloorToInt(Time.TimerCount / 60);
    float seconds = Mathf.FloorToInt(Time.TimerCount % 60);
    TimerYourTime.text = string.Format("{0:00}:{1:00}", minutes, seconds);

[ruby ember]

so is not good or something?

[grizzled zealot]

Ok. I get your point about the single boolean check. It just bugs me 😄 Btw. not using polling. The Presenter is triggered through the observer and then calls the View to make updates where necessary. This allows clean separation of game logic reactions (in the presenter) and the pure visuals (animations, FX, sound, etc).

[ruby python]

gimme a sec, I think I just noticed something else.

Okay, yeah, this line here

TimerBestTime.text = PlayerPrefs.GetFloat("BestTime", Time.TimerCount).ToString("00:00");

Is pretty much where all your problems are. Gimme a minute

[ruby ember]

yeah

ik is this one

i tried

adding Best time PlayerPrefs.GetFloat

[ruby python]

Some of this syntax might be wrong, doing this from memory and haven't done it for a long ass time. so double check.

float bestTimeFromPrefs = PlayerPrefs.GetFloat("BestTime");
float bestTimeMinutes = Mathf.FloorToInt(bestTimeFromPrefs / 60);
float bestTimeSeconds = Mathf.FloorToInt(bestTimeFromPrefs % 60);
TimerBestTime.text = string.Format("{0:00}:{1:00}", minutes, seconds);

I think that should fix it.

**Edited, recheck

[ruby ember]

ok

il check

[grizzled zealot]

Now here's a better solution without the boolean. I simply start the Presenter disabled, and then the View will enable it. So no update until the View ran start.

[ruby python]

So basically, line by line....

-Grab the bestTime float from PlayerPrefs
-Convert into Minutes
-Convert into Seconds
-Send the formatted float from PlayerPrefs (Minutes/Seconds) to your Text Element.

Also, put this line (from the code above)

float bestTimeFromPrefs = PlayerPrefs.GetFloat("BestTime");

as the first line in your "public void DeadRecord()", before the If statement and in the if statement replace the PlayerPrefs part with bestTimeFromPrefs

[slender nymph]

fun fact, but none of that math is necessary. just use TimeSpan and format it with mm:ss

var bestTime = PlayerPrefs.GetFloat("whatever");
var time = TimeSpan.FromSeconds(bestTime);
textObject.text = time.ToString(@"mm\:ss");

and here is it working: https://dotnetfiddle.net/kBTVst

[wicked cairn]

Don’t forget PlayerPrefs.Save()

[grizzled zealot]

Is it normal that start is not called, if awake sets disable=true;? I thought it only affects the update* routines.

[summer stump]

Correct. Start will not run if disabled before it can

You can also instantiate something in a disabled state immediately

Disabled affects all unity methods, including OnTrigger/OnCollision i'm pretty sure

[grizzled zealot]

but it is guaranteed that start completes before the first update?

[summer stump]

Yes

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ExecutionOrder.html

Here is the order that methods will be called in

[slender nymph]

incorrect. Awake will run regardless of the component's enabled state, it's only the gameobject being inactive that prevents it from running. also physics messages are not affected by the component's enabled state either. enabled really only affects a few messages like OnEnable/OnDisable, Update, FixedUpdate, things like that

[summer stump]

Yeah, awake will still run. But start will not, right?

[slender nymph]

right Start is one of the affected messages

[summer stump]

But thanks for the correction on physics messages. Wasn't sure on that

[grizzled zealot]

Ok, but it seems that Update still gets called in the same frame as you set enabled = false. Is this correct?

void Start() { enabled = true }
void Awake() { enabled = false; }
void Update() { Debug.Log("called in same frame even though got disabled"); }

[slender nymph]

if you disable the component in Awake then Update will not be called at all until it has been enabled. same for Start

[grizzled zealot]

Somehow my code begs to differ, because every enemy gets off 1 shot in Update() , even though I set enabled = false in Awake(). Must have a bug somewhere.

[summer stump]

Can you show the actual code?

[slender nymph]

either something else is calling the code you are having trouble with, or something else is enabling the object

[summer stump]

Also, you can instantiate the script in a disabled state to start with if you want. By disabling it on the prefab

[slender nymph]

or perhaps you've discovered a unity bug (unlikely though)

[slender nymph]

as far as i can tell they aren't using prefabs and are instead using the factory pattern and adding the components at runtime

[summer stump]

Ah, gotcha

[grizzled zealot]

Quite long and would need to cut a lot. But I can confirm that the breakpoint in Update() gets hit even though Awake() set enabled=false. See the screenshot. It shows enabled in the watch and it's false.

[slender nymph]

share the full code for that class in a bin site

[grizzled zealot]

Any preferred one?

[slender nymph]

one that has syntax highlighting

[grizzled zealot]

https://codeshare.io/Q8O8jw

[summer stump]

You do enabled false in START

Have you tried it in Awake?

[grizzled zealot]

Yes, that's why I don't want to have Update() called.

[grizzled zealot]

If I disable it in Awake(), then Start() never gets called and the model and view don't get registered.

[slender nymph]

i'd like to recommend that you instead use some form of dependency injection rather than calling GetComponent in Start. you are much better off that way. your factory can pass the required references to the components after it has added them

[summer stump]

Fair. Update is definitely called after start, and I'm pretty sure changing the enabled state is immediate, so I'm not sure. It shouldn't be happening at the end of the frame like some changes do

[grizzled zealot]

The problem is that I want to move away from manually adding all the components in code, and instead support adding them through the inspector.

[slender nymph]

even better! you can use SerializedFields and just drag the references in or call GetComponent in Reset instead of doing so in Start

[grizzled zealot]

I agree, but I don't want to change all my code base, if I then run into a stupid race condition after I made the changes.

I'm still surprised that Update() gets called although the component is disabled.

[slender nymph]

but these race conditions you are currently experiencing will not even be possible if you do it the way i suggested since the components will actually properly exist by the time GetComponent is called

[slender nymph]

yeah that seems like a bug 🤔

[grizzled zealot]

Problem is that I can't reproduce it with a simple script like this:

public class TestIt : MonoBehaviour {
    void Awake() {
        Debug.Log("Awake");
        enabled = true;
    }

    void Start() {
        Debug.Log("Start");
        enabled = false;
    }

    void Update() { Debug.Log ("Update called: "+enabled);    }
}

This works as expected.

[slender nymph]

sprinkle some logs or tracepoints around, especially where you change the enabled state of the component to see what is happening with it

also print some useful info, like you can do something like Debug.Log($"Update was called on {name} ({GetInstanceID()}) with enabled state: {enabled}", this);
and that will not only tell you which object it was called on, including the instance id in case of objects with similar/matching names, but also will highlight the specified object in the hierarchy when you click on the log in the console

[grizzled zealot]

Very interesting. I now commented out all mentioning of enable other than Awake() and Start(), and I still get this behaviour.

[slender nymph]

you're not doing something crazy like using SendMessage to send an Update message to the component, right?

also unrelated to your issue, but does InputBroker derive from UnityEngine.Object? (like MonoBehaviour) because if so, then InputBroker.Instance is not null is wrong and you should be using the == operator

[grizzled zealot]

Correct. Nothing crazy going on. And I have Update() called with enabled == false.

[slender nymph]

put some logs in OnEnable and OnDisable to see when the object is actually being disabled, and keep in mind that other objects can change the enabled state of the component so that may also be messing with it. I've seen issues where someone was disabling and then reenabling a component from some other object every frame and despite that component being enabled it was never updating because it kept getting disabled

[grizzled zealot]

Crazy. It calls Update() right after calling OnDisable() on the same object.

[warped sorrel]

omg how can I make curly braces be on same line in csharp in vscode using editor config

[grizzled zealot]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49136015/vscode-format-curly-brackets-on-the-same-line-c-sharp

[slender nymph]

well that's certainly odd 🤔
if you are still using AddComponent to create the instance of the object, i wonder if it would behave in the same way if you used a prefab with the component on it (but enabled with the same exact code). or vice versa if you are no longer using AddComponent

[grizzled zealot]

When I manually add the module through the editor, I don't seem to get the same bug.

[slender nymph]

ooh sounds like it's bug report time

i'm going to see if i can recreate the issue in a blank project. what version of unity are you currently using?

[grizzled zealot]

2023.3.0b8.git.7962477

[slender nymph]

oh cool, i'm a few patches ahead of you but on the same version (well technically i'm on 6000, but that's just 2023.3 with more patches)

[grizzled zealot]

I'm currently seeing whether I can create a simple example.

[slender nymph]

i can't seem to get it to happen on 6000.0.0b16 with this code https://paste.mod.gg/bbgcozzvfdnr/0

[charred spoke]

Well even if it is a bug try to re-create it on the latest version, otherwise QA will just tell you to do that

[slender nymph]

so something real fucky is going on in that project i'd assume

[eternal needle]

this would seem like a rather major bug too if it exists

considering that would cause errors in many cases

[grizzled zealot]

This is the Factory function I use to create the object. https://codeshare.io/J7P7Or

The problem only occurs in "turret" in the ShootingPresenter.

The problem's also there, even I remove most of the AddComponent()

[slender nymph]

and you are certain you don't happen to have some weird SendMessage call sending an Update message to it somewhere?

[grizzled zealot]

Problem persists, even with Start() only executing enabled = false. Unity, really wants to call Update() on this object.

Checked the whole codebase, only one gameobject.SendMessage() and that's for a different function. But I'll comment it out.

Yes, problem still exists, even without any "SendMesssage()" in my code.

But this might be a clue: I instantiate 20 object in that frame. Each has 20 Monos, so it's 400 Start() and Awake(). Will try to see whether instantiating fewer objects makes a difference.

[slender nymph]

i can't imagine that would make a difference, but it doesn't hurt to try it

[ruby ember]

thanks man it worked

btw this is not an issue but do you know how to make best time record?

this is like Time Survived in menu

but idk how to do this one

i only know it uses PlayerPrefs.GetFloat("BestTime") here's an example of the script it needs to be

https://hastebin.com/share/fodicomegu.csharp

[grizzled zealot]

didn't make a difference. No clue what is happening here.

Interestingly, the problem does not occur with FixedUpdate()

[ruby python]

With PlayerPrefs, you use this

PlayerPrefs.GetFloat("BestTime")

So you basically need to do exactly the same as you already did to fix the previous issue, but send the score to the bestTime text element that you have there.

[rocky gale]

void OnClick()
    {
        lastClickedTime = Time.time;
        noOfClicks++;

        if (noOfClicks == 1)
            animator.SetBool("Swing1", true);

        noOfClicks = Mathf.Clamp(noOfClicks, 0, 3);

        if (noOfClicks >= 2 && animator.GetCurrentAnimatorStateInfo(0).IsName("swing1"))
        {
            Debug.Log("Yes");
            animator.SetBool("Swing1", false);
            animator.SetBool("Swing2", true);
        }
        if (noOfClicks >= 3 && animator.GetCurrentAnimatorStateInfo(0).IsName("swing2"))
        {
            Debug.Log("Yes2");
            animator.SetBool("Swing2", false);
            animator.SetBool("Swing3", true);
        }
    }

how do i make it so after the last hit if you click again it goes back to the 1st animation

[languid spire]

in your last if, set noOfClicks to zero

[ruby ember]

So I need to do the same code that I've made before the fixed one right?

[rocky gale]

how do i make it so that the animation doesnt go back to idle right awayh and instead goes to first animation bcause i have an idle animatin and in the blend tree from 3rd animation to both idle and 1st anim the condition is Swing3 false

[grizzled zealot]

Really don't know where this bug comes from. It doesn't happen with FixedUpdate() or LateUpdate(). Only with Update(). I can't see the stack frame either to inspect who was calling Update().

[languid spire]

in that case check noofclicks >=4 then set your bool and noofclicks to zero

[rocky gale]

i clamped noofclicks to 3

[languid spire]

so unclamp it you dont need it

[rocky gale]

o ok thx

[languid spire]

is this happening only on one specific component?

[grizzled zealot]

No, also happens in other MonoBehaviors attached to the same game object.

[languid spire]

so of the 20 GO;s you are instantiating it only happens on one of them?

[grizzled zealot]

I now reduced it to spawn only 5 GOs, and it happens in all of them.

[languid spire]

weird, I was thinking it may be bacause of the amount of work you are doing in one frame and somthing strange is going on with deltaTime

can you reduce further until it goes away?

[grizzled zealot]

trying

[charred spoke]

Does it happen on only one go ?

[grizzled zealot]

The same.

Even with a minimal setup, it's happening. I already have disabled so much.

[languid spire]

Can you try this, if it's not too much trouble.
Move all of the add components to a separate script in Start
Just do the AddComponent of this new script when you instantiate the new gameobjects

[grizzled zealot]

I commented out all other AddComponents(). I'm only adding one, and it still shows this bug.

[languid spire]

so eah Go is adding it's own components

[grizzled zealot]

No, it's still the factory.

[languid spire]

I'm out of ideas, I really do think you have hit a very strange bug but I cannot think what may be causing it

[grizzled zealot]

I already tested the other case: if I create and configure the GO through the normal inspector interface, the bug doesn't occur. It only occurs when I configure it through the factory pattern.

How come the stack frame upon a breakpoint in Update() doesn't show me what object called Update()?

[languid spire]

because it's called by native code not C#

[grizzled zealot]

So why does it not happen with FixedUpdate() or LateUpdate().

(because it's a bug...)

[languid spire]

no idea, that is why I thought it could be deltaTime related

[eternal needle]

just curious, have you restarted unity or does it happen in a build?

[languid spire]

that's a good point, a IL2CPP build may fix it

[eternal needle]

ive had an odd bug once that only went away when i restarted unity

[grizzled zealot]

trying

Yes, also happens in builds.
Yes, also persists across unity restarts.

[languid spire]

Does it only happen for one pass of the update loop or is it persistent

[grizzled zealot]

Only a single pass.

[languid spire]

so it's like the enabled=false is seen but only applied after Update has executed, correct?

[grizzled zealot]

correct.

And it only affects Update(), FixedUpdate() and LateUpdate() are never called (as they shouldn't be called).

[charred spoke]

Can you share the code again ?

[grizzled zealot]

Here's even simpler code for which this happens: https://codeshare.io/0bQArQ

[charred spoke]

I would also use Time.frameCount in the debug logs to see if it is all happening in a single frame or over 2 frames

[charred spoke]

And the factory ?

[grizzled zealot]

Just a moment.

[charred spoke]

Sorry I am in my phone and cant find it with scrolling

[rocky gale]

https://hastebin.com/share/fiquboreti.csharp

how come it doesnt go back to 1st animatin and goes back to idle fast

[grizzled zealot]

Take a look at this, it's even happening with just the basic template code: https://codeshare.io/0bQArQ

[charred spoke]

And this is happening only from the factory right ?

[grizzled zealot]

yes; code link coming

[charred spoke]

At what point in the frame does the factory create the object ?

[grizzled zealot]

Factory: https://codeshare.io/mP0OMW

Factory is invoked this way:

Using the new Input system.

Keybinding sends a broadcast message to the InputManager. InputManager invokes an spawn action at the InputBroker. UnitManager listens to the spawn action and creates the instantiates the GO.

[charred spoke]

Add the frameCount to the debug log

Also does stepping through the code with the debugger produces the same result ?

[grizzled zealot]

All happening in the same frame.

[grizzled zealot]

Yes, I can set a breakpoint in Update() and see in the watch window that enabled: false.

[charred spoke]

Well at this point try to re-create it on the latest version and if it happens file a bug report

I am out of ideas hehe

If you can update your project I would simply add a guard clause to the update if(!enabled) return;

Strange thing is we have a bunch of factories in our 2023.3 project and no-one has notices this behaviour

None of them are tied to the input system however

[ruby ember]

anyone else know?

[grizzled zealot]

I can also confirm now that I also happens when I just call the factory method from another script. Doesn't have to come through the InputSystem.

[charred spoke]

Try it in a fresh project

On latest 2023.3 version

[grizzled zealot]

Getting closer. Happens when I use a scriptableobject.

doesn't happen when I don't use the scriptable object to instantiate.

[charred spoke]

Huh? What does the SO have to do with instantiating ?

[grizzled zealot]

Ok. Here's a good clue:

Only happens when I use the prefab that is referenced in the SO.

If I use the prefab directly without the SO, it works without a problem.

[grizzled zealot]

The SO holds the reference to the prefab that should be instantiated.

[charred spoke]

How is the SO being used exactly?

[rocky gale]

https://hastebin.com/share/gisosagexe.csharp how do i make this not skip the 3rd animation

[charred spoke]

Like show the SO code ?

[grizzled zealot]

Sorry, it's too late here. I'm getting confused. The SO does not trigger the problem. The problem only occurs when going through the InputManager and the input event.

The problem doesn't even occur when calling the factory method directly from another script.

That's the function that is called by the InputSystem upon pressing the specific key:

    void OnSpawnmodules(InputValue value) {
        Vector3 mousePos = Camera.main.ScreenToWorldPoint(Mouse.current.position.ReadValue());
        GameEventsBroker.Instance.OnSpawnModuleMultiple?.Invoke(this, mousePos, null, 2, 30);
    }

When I invoke GameEventsBroker.Instance.OnSpawnModuleMultiple directly, it doesn't cause the bug to occur.

So it must be linked to the input system. Here's my configuration. I use "Send Messages" there.

Can it be that the InputSystem sends out an Update broadcast?

[charred spoke]

My conclusion is that the input system fires of the event at a weird point in the frame where the update of the mono can register itself, but somehow skips the unregister and runs once

[grizzled zealot]

It only occurs when the OnSpawnmodules method gets invoked through the Input System. When my code invokes the method, the bug doesn't trigger.

[charred spoke]

What happens if you disable the component in the factory immediately after adding it ?

[languid spire]

ok, so this sounds like the Input event is interupting an already running Update cycle and the Update from the script is being added to the list of Updates to run as normal but the enables=false is happening too late for it to be removed from the currently running Update cycle

[timber tide]

May need to download it in packages first, though I did mention before you can just use unity's lit/unlit shader as it already includes that feature.

[feral moss]

Oh I'm so sorry I missed that part, sorry for the repetitive ping

[grizzled zealot]

Yes, this fixes it:

        TestIt bla = go.AddComponent<TestIt>();
        bla.enabled = false;
        return go;

Now Update() doesn't get called.

[charred spoke]

So it is almost certainly what me and Steve think. I would say this is a bug with the new input system or at best undocumented behaviour

Best to repro it in a fresh project on latest and send the bug report + a forum thread

[languid spire]

`Agreed

@grizzled zealot 100% for your effort in sensibly trying to diagnose this. Many would have given up long ago

[grizzled zealot]

Well, happy to learn somthing along the way.

Still trying to switch from "sendmessage" in the input system to some other method and see whether it still happens.

[languid spire]

I think it is most likely to do with the firing of the Input event sequencing

basically crossed wires between Input event and Update

[grizzled zealot]

Confirmed. It also happens when using "Unity Events" as callback mechanism for the Input System.

So it's not dependent on sendMessage or broadcastMessage.

Will file something tomorrow, if I can reproduce it in a simple project.

Thanks for the help in digging this up.

[viral creek]

What would be the easiest method for me to make this happen,

PauseMenu is a canvas that has some buttons attatched to it and will have its own script well call PauseMenuScript, My idea is that the player can press Escape and then the pause menu will appear and when they do all other scripts will pause so that nothing happens except the menu since its a zombie game having them kill you while your in the menu would be an issue, so in short, PauseMenu canvas would become active and all other scripts except the PauseMenuScript would become paused and not run until the player hits resume

[timber tide]

Easiest way is just make some manager that all UI menus listen from, and every time you click a button on these other menus, if IsPaused is flagged then return early and no execute any of the logic on those menus

[viral creek]

okay wait i said it really bad

so I have a scene where my gamemode BossMode is where it spawns zombies blah blah EVERYTHING goes on here

its the game

[timber tide]

the cleaner way would be to subscribe and unsubscribe every time you pause/unpause but not required

[viral creek]

i want the game to like pause all those scripts to be paused, the enemy spawning, the ammo spawning, the player movement, the game UI to be set to false, the zombies to stop moving towards the player,

[timber tide]

that's abit harder but there's plenty of tutorials on how to pause your game and most will suggest changing the timescale

[viral creek]

like my idea was a public bool for pause

if pause is false update will run

or actually

if pause is false then all the things in update would run

[timber tide]

right, the best way to handle it is to disable updates instead of messing with timescale

[viral creek]

if pause is true they all wont run

so that would be a good method?

set a bool and then if bool = true nothing happens in update, if bool = false run all my functions?

[timber tide]

I've not really messed around with pausing games using unity's physics though so that may present some extra complications, but for all I know it could be just as simple

but yes, if game is paused -> don't run updates

only run update on scripts that need to run while paused, and all your button events still need to be unsubscribed if they aren't meant to be interacted with (or do the suggestion I said before and check if paused on them too)

[viral creek]

is ee i see thank you

[timber tide]

because even if updates are disabled, stuff out of update can still be executed (such as those buttons)

[viral creek]

and ive asked this before so this might be annoying but

how could I reference the bool from the PauseMenuScript

in the other scripts?

[timber tide]

I'd usually have a GameManagerUI for my UI elements to all listen to

or some type of singleton unless you want to give all your UI elements their own references to non-singleton manager

[viral creek]

sum like this right?

public PauseMenu pauseMenu;
private bool pause = pauseMenu.pause

for the scripts like BaseZombie or PlayerHandler

[grizzled zealot]

@languid spire @charred spoke You were correct. The sequencing is the issue. This fixes the problem:

    public void OnSpawnmodules(InputValue value) {
        Invoke("Testing",1f);  // using this works fine
        // Testing();  // using this causes the bug
    }

    void Testing() {
        Vector3 mousePos = Camera.main.ScreenToWorldPoint(Mouse.current.position.ReadValue());
        GameEventsBroker.Instance.OnSpawnModuleMultiple?.Invoke(this, mousePos, null, 2, 30);
    }

[timber tide]

public class GameManagerUI : MonoBehaviour
{
    private static GameManagerUI _instance;
    public static GameManagerUI Instance { get { return _instance; } }

    public bool IsPaused = false;

    private void Awake()
    {
        if (_instance != null && _instance != this)
        {
            Destroy(this.gameObject);
        }
        else
        {
            _instance = this;
            DontDestroyOnLoad(this.gameObject);
        }
    }
}

public class GameButton : MonoBehaviour
{
  
  public void ButtonPressed()
  {
    if(GameManagerUI.Instance.IsPaused)
    {
      return;
    }

    else //button logic 
  }
}```
@viral creek

[viral creek]

for

[timber tide]

You can also poll IsPaused in all your updates too instead of disabling them too is another idea

[viral creek]

o see

[timber tide]

public class Character : MonoBehaviour
{
  public void Update()
  {
    if(GameManagerUI.Instance.IsPaused)
    {
      return; //return early
    }

    //character logic
  }
}```

otherwise if you don't poll (check each update if it's paused) then when you flip the flag, the script that does the flipping must tell all these scripts to stop updating by disabling their update

disabling their update by disabling the component itself, or the gameobject but that would probably break rendering so just do it via component

[viral creek]

alright thank you mao

[olive galleon]

Does anyone have tips for a beginner programmer? I just started a few days ago and after watching tutorials I think I should learn these things:

Delegates
Singleton Design Pattern
Event Systems
Scriptable Objects
Abstract Classes vs Interfaces
State Machines

Is there anything else I should try learning? I want to learn fundamentals and proper organization before jumping into a project

[raw kindle]

You are doing it wrong, you should start a project now you will never learn if you dont try

Try to make a simple 2d game it will be shit ofc because its your first but most importantly you will learn, google what you cant try and slowly make more complex game

[shy cloud]

If you google how to round a float/double to 2 decimal places, it tells you to round(float*100f)*0.01f, but if I do it this way, I often get floating point errors, e.g. 9,699455 results in 9,6999999 instead of 9,7. How can I fix this?

[willow scroll]

Please, show me what you've tried.

[willow scroll]

Because that's not how you round a float or double.

[pine bone]

Hello guys, how can i make a 2D procedurally generated terrain? I know how to use Mahtf.Noise but i'm not sure on how i can make the terrain appear visually and have appropriate colliders

[shy cloud]

how do you do it then?

[blissful spindle]

https://hatebin.com/qyaofphaqb Hi, I am trying to make a weaponBob system in my game but I am a little stuck I am trying to approach it the same way I did with weaponSway but... I have been unsuccessful. Can anyone help me?

[willow scroll]

See, float doesn't really have a method to round to n decimal places.
Rounding a float / double / decimal etc. can be achieved using several methods.

Note that decimals / digits is the decimal places after comma.

• 1. decimal.Round method's 2nd parameter

decimal result = decimal.Round(yourDecimal, decimals);

float result = (float)decimal.Round((decimal)yourFloat, decimals);

• 2. Math.Round method's 2nd parameter

double result = Math.Round(yourDouble, digits);

float result = (float)Math.Round(yourFloat, digits);

• 3. float.ToString method's 1st parameter

string result = value.ToString($"0.
    {Enumerable.Range(0, digits).Select(d => "#")}");

float result = float.Parse(value.ToString($"0.
    {Enumerable.Range(0, digits).Select(d => "#")}"))

So 0.## gives you 0.8 when the value is .84321. You may also replace it with 0, or replace the 0. by #. to get .8 in this case.
Use this link for the reference.

[eternal needle]

do you know basic c# first? I think this is a good list to learn but you need to know basics first like what a class really is for or how to deal with errors. Or how to actually write the language. No need to deal with unity compile time when you can instantly run code testing delegates in an online compiler. Same goes for singleton, abstract class/inheritance. Technically you could do a state machine too but everything will run instantly.

[viral creek]

okay im not sure if this is an easy or hard question, I referenced my Pause Menu Script like so

public PauseMenuScript pauseMenuScript;

and when i try to add the parent of that script PauseMenu which is a canvas into the like square where you would drag a game object for a definition, it says Type mismatch

im not sure what to do

in case you need context, I use a boolean called IsPaused from that script to allow the player to pause the game, then in the update function of all the moving stuff and important stuff i use a if statement saying If not paused then run like normal

[eternal needle]

ive usually seen that when you already have something inside there, then change the type. like if that used to be public GameObject pauseMenuScript; then changing this suddenly will be a type mismatch.
Try just dragging it in again, not while in playmode, just in edit mode.

it shouldnt persist

[viral creek]

i did multiple times

and this is the first time im trying to put it in btw

it wont let me drag it in

[eternal needle]

can you show a screenshot of the object you're trying to drag in, with all the components on that object visible?

[viral creek]

but if i click the circle i can manually select

[eternal needle]

this is a prefab right?

[viral creek]

the zombie yes

[eternal needle]

you cannot reference scene objects in a prefab

[viral creek]

i see

what can i do to get the variable IsPaused then?

heres the pause menu heirarchy btw

[willow scroll]

How do you want it to be gotten?

[viral creek]

the simplest way

its a boolean

[eternal needle]

the easiest and least shittiest solution if you're somewhat new to coding would be using a singleton to get a reference to that script

[willow scroll]

Yeah, what is this boolean supposed to mean?

[viral creek]

i just want it to work like this,

PauseMenuScript says yo we paused halt all other scripts

gotchu fam we in update rn and we putting this to a stop

[eternal needle]

the easiest way would be making the variable itself static (strongly advise against doing this). But also do you really need this bool? Could you not just set the timescale to 0 and not worry about this

[viral creek]

i dont know what a timescale is im extremely new to coding

[timber tide]

I was suggesting to avoid timescale because it's global and instead just do it for what you want paused

[willow scroll]

Use a Singleton, as bawsi has previously mentioned

[viral creek]

and frankly at 2:22 am im not tryna learn

show an example of a singleton please

[eternal needle]

if you want the entire game paused, i think timescale is fine here. if its just certain things only then nvm

[timber tide]

#💻┃code-beginner message

[viral creek]

it is certain only

[viral creek]

what do you want me to do with that?

[timber tide]

that's a singleton

[viral creek]

that wasnt very descriptive

what lines are

[timber tide]

i mean the code is presented there

[willow scroll]

You should simply copypaste a Singleton from the tutorial.
I would recommend using the generic Singleton from this tutorial.

public class GenericSingleton<T> : MonoBehaviour where T : Component // ...

[strong viper]

Hii, sorry to interrupt but I've been havins some issues with basically all of my colliders for this project and im still confused on why it isn't working

 {
     print("Colision enemigo");
     if (collision.gameObject.CompareTag("Bala"))
     {
         print("bang");
         Destroy(collision.gameObject);
         enemyHealth--;
         if (enemyHealth <= 0)
         {
             Destroy(gameObject);
         }
     }
     if (collision.gameObject.CompareTag("CleanupArea"))
     {
         print("bonk");
         Destroy(gameObject);
     }
 }

It calls the first print but not anything else

[viral creek]

are your colliders triggers or no

i had an issue with mine earlier cuz some were triggers

[strong viper]

nope

[viral creek]

perhaps check your tags

you said it calls the first bit

[willow scroll]

Have a PauseManuManager derived from this Singleton, and have a, usually, static boolean in it

public class PauseMenuManager : Singleton<PauseMenuManager> // ...

[viral creek]

so uh

steps

make new script

put that as the class

put bool in class

[willow scroll]

Because of the collision having neither of the tags checked

[viral creek]

reference?

[strong viper]

The tags are all correct so i still don't know 😭

[willow scroll]

No, they are wrong.

As I have mentioned, collision has neither of the tags you're checking. Print its tag.

print($"Colision enemigo - tag: {collision.gameObject.tag}");

[willow scroll]

What does it reffer to?

[viral creek]

are you sure the gameobjects you are colliding with are under the correct tags? @strong viper

[willow scroll]

They aren't

[viral creek]

how else would i obtain the bool?

[viral creek]

thought as much

i do that sometimes too where i create tags and forget to tag the object

[strong viper]

yes, they have box collider 2D

as well

[viral creek]

no no i mean the tag for the object

[strong viper]

yes it is tagged

[viral creek]

is it untagged

oh i see

send a screenshot maybe of the object

[willow scroll]

Well, you just use YourManager.yourBool if it's static and YourManager.Instance.yourBool otherwise

[viral creek]

would static work in my case?

[willow scroll]

Well, simply print what I've asked you to

[eternal needle]

I really wouldnt worry about generic singletons considering they probably dont know what a generic or singleton is still.
Really just having the static instance is fine, and you should follow a tutorial/guide to learn singletons. Just blindly copy pasting isnt gonna get you anywhere

[willow scroll]

Yes, if it's supposed to be neither serialized nor referenced in any non-static methods

[strong viper]

it says untagged but im not really sure what it's colliding with

[viral creek]

then

[strong viper]

probably another object

[viral creek]

is your player tagged? and the enemigo?

send a screenshot of the enemigo inspector

Bala my bad

[willow scroll]

I don't think it matters. They simply inherit all their Managers from this GenericSingleton, and it's not necessary to know exactly what it does. The same as they use Rigidbody, probably, without knowing how to fully implement its logic themselves.

[strong viper]

right now I'm trying to do the other part

[willow scroll]

Is this object's tag supposed to be "Bala" or "CleanupArea"?

[viral creek]

Because remember your only checking for Bala or CleanupArea

[strong viper]

that's the enemy

[eternal needle]

How is this related? This is clearly overly complicated for someone simply trying to access a public bool.

[strong viper]

I think it's colliding with the canvas??

[viral creek]

arent you attempting to detect collision with said enemy?

[strong viper]

which is odd because it doens't have any collider

[viral creek]

could be colliding with the floor

oh wait its 2d

[strong viper]

there's no floor it's a top down shooting game

whoops wrong reply

[willow scroll]

Perhaps. They might consider creating a static bool in a simple Manager class, if a single boolean is all they need

[viral creek]

yeah noticed that rn

its 2d

[viral creek]

it literally is

here was my entire idea for my pause menu

my game has zombies that spawn every so many seconds, a player moving and can shoot them, on contact loses hp, well your hungry? gotta take a break? press escape pause the game, escape works fine and press alt to reshift lock, that works too but i want the other scripts that arent PauseMenuScript to be paused and stop until the player hits resume

[strong viper]

ok so i finally know what's triggering the printed collision, it's an unrelated barrier

but it doesn't pick up the collision with the box it's suppose to collide with

just marches right through

[willow scroll]

Got it. The code for the Manager class can be written using only static variables and methods, guess, you won't use coroutines in this case. Still, I would suggest you to use Singletons, as you want to access the your PauseMenuScript in all the other classes.

[viral creek]

Ye I thought it would be simple to just use a book

Boolean function* but as with all things coding, if it seems easy I guarantee it's not

[willow scroll]

What book are you talking about?

[viral creek]

I meant boolean not book tried to say bool but my phone had other ideas

[willow scroll]

Mm, I really don't get you

[viral creek]

Yeah I'ma funny guy lol

[willow scroll]

Anyway, just use the tutorial for singletons I've previously sent you

[viral creek]

I'm off to bed I'll do it in the morning thank you though

It's 3 am lol

[strong viper]

Oughh 😭

[willow scroll]

This happens because of either or both of your colliders being triggers

Disable the isTrigger boolean on both of them in order to make them actually collide.

[strong viper]

Neither is trigger

[willow scroll]

But the collision happens?

[strong viper]

No 😭

[willow scroll]

So is something printed when they collide?

[strong viper]

No, it's like there was nothing there

Do I add a rigidbody?

[willow scroll]

Hold on, nothing gets printed?

[willow scroll]

You've mentioned the first print was called here

[strong viper]

It's colliding with another object

With neither of the tags

[astral basin]

why isnt this working

[strong viper]

You're only calling it at the start

[gaunt ice]

it works, but only run once

[astral basin]

ohh

so update

thanksss

[strong viper]

Yep

[astral basin]

question

should i put time delta time on jumping too

[fringe plover]

Why i cant disable some scripts?

There is no checkmark for it

[willow scroll]

So is the print printed?

Why cannot you answer this question I've asked 3 times..?

[strong viper]

I've said it is

Just not for the object that it's supposed to be colliding

[willow scroll]

Alright, please, send me the objects that are supposed to be colliding

[strong viper]

this is the box it's supposed to collide with

[strong viper]

this is where the code is

[willow scroll]

"it"?

[strong viper]

the enemy

[willow scroll]

Where's the enemy?

[strong viper]

this one

[quick pollen]

bit of a dumb question, so I want to use Lerp to change the timeScale from what it is back to normal, but I also want to have a value which I can change so it changes the timeScale back to normal in t amount of time. how can I do that?

    [SerializeField] float slowDownValue;
    [SerializeField] float timeToNormalizeCT;
    float timeToNormalize;
    private void OnTriggerEnter(Collider other)
    {
        ReflectSlowDown();
    }
    private void Update()
    {
        if(timeToNormalize > 0f)
        {
            Time.timeScale = Mathf.Lerp(1f, Time.timeScale, timeToNormalize);
        }
    }
    void ReflectSlowDown()
    {
        Time.timeScale = slowDownValue;
        timeToNormalize = timeToNormalizeCT;
    }```

I have smth like this currently

I want a value between 0 and 1 for the t part of the Lerp which is proportional to timeToNormalize being between 0 and x, x being the number given in the inspector

so basically if timeToNormalizeCT is 4, and timeToNormalize is currently 2, then have the t value of the Lerp to be 0.5

[willow scroll]

Alright, you may want to have a look at this answer.

The Rigidbody2D has to be Kinematic, with Use full kinematic contacts enabled, if Collider2D on the same GameObject has isTrigger disabled.

[modest dust]

Divide one by the other?

[quick pollen]

wait

shit

im stupid

that makes sense

[modest dust]

timeToNormalize / timeToNormalizeCT

[quick pollen]

Time.timeScale = Mathf.Lerp(1f, Time.timeScale, timeToNormalize / timeToNormalizeCT); u mean like-

yeah....

thanks, im stupid xd

basic algebra

[strong viper]

Omfg that was the issue thanks 😭😭😭

I completely forgot about that

[quick pollen]

ooof thats a freeze

forgot to set the values in the inspector .-.

[modest dust]

Also don't use Time.timeScale in your lerp, unless you don't want the transition to be linear I guess

[quick pollen]

hold up, one problem

Time.deltaTime is affected by the timescale

oh wait, theres unscaled time right?

[modest dust]

Yeah

[quick pollen]

coolcool

problem is I have this script on the hitbox of the shield (i want to slow down time when you reflect something) and the script gets deactivated before time gets scaled back

I guess I need 2 scripts

[modest dust]

Why does it get deactivated?
If you deactivate the shield then simply move that logic onto another script

And just call it from the shield

[quick pollen]

okay this is a bit hard to phrase hold on

can I use the BoxCollider of a different GameObject to access OnTriggerEnter?

I basically want to check the BoxCollider of the shield on the player gameobject somehow

[modest dust]

Simply call a player method from the shield script

or make an event in the shield script and make the player subscribe to it

[quick pollen]

yeah thats what I did

[lucid ermine]

Hey, I'm making a 2d top down game
I'm trying to get my player to rotate towards the mouse
Now that part was pretty easy, but I've come across an issue with the method I've used

Since the player looks directly at the mouse, and the mouse is hidden in game, the rotation feels inconsistent
If the mouse happens to be positioned close to the center, moving the mouse will rotate the character far more
than if you make the same movement further away from the center

I've attached a super-complicated high-tech AI enhanced example of what I mean
the red is the cursor movement, while the blue lines signify the distance that was rotated in practice

I figured this was a relatively easy issue to solve but I haven't managed to find an answer on google

Anyone has a solution for this? I thought about somehow turning the mouse into a "swivel" (as in, the cursor's position is irrelevant, only the movement rotation matters)
but I then realized I haven't got a clue as to how to implement it

    private void FixedUpdate()
    {
        Vector3 mousePosition = Camera.main.ScreenToWorldPoint(Input.mousePosition);

        Vector2 directionToMouse = mousePosition - transform.position;

        transform.up = directionToMouse;
    }

Thanks in advance :)

[quick pollen]

im not sure what you use for input management, but using the old input system I could use the Mouse X value to basically do what you mean

it doesnt matter where the mouse is, what matters is how much you move it

[quick pollen]

but uhh, yes, I think it makes sense that in your implementation the mouse moves faster when closer to the center and slower when further away
thats how circles and radiuses work afterall, heh

playerAsset.transform.Rotate(new Vector3(0f, Input.GetAxis("Mouse X"), 0f));
this is the method I used

I work in 3D, but its a topdown so its basically the same, just ignore the Z axis

btw does anyone know why timeScale makes everything so jittery? isn't there a way to slow down time without making it look like its just laggy?
(the time slows down when those projectiles get reflected)

[timber tide]

probably because to want to lerp it

[quick pollen]

lerp what?

the transition between slow and normal is lerped

[timber tide]

I would think you need some interpolation when changing the timescale quickly like that

alternatively, don't use timescale and just change the speeds specific to those objects

[quick pollen]

i do these lerps

a lerp to slow down time and a lerp to speed it back up

[timber tide]

actually trying to think how you would even do lerp with update and timescale because it would affect the lerp update as you change it in update

[quick pollen]

quickly built the game here to test if its just lag, but no

[quick pollen]

i did unscaledDeltaTime to change the time

that way its not affected by the timescale change

but there are still 60 updates a second even if the timescale is changed, no?

[timber tide]

right but what im saying is you want to update the lerp in an update loop not affected by frame time, but maybe im overthinking it

[quick pollen]

FixedUpdate maybe?

yea no fixedupdate is even worse

[timber tide]

https://forum.unity.com/threads/how-to-smoothly-animate-or-transition-time-timescale-from-1-to-zero.988803/

[quick pollen]

thats one thing

but like

I have a set amount of time for it to go from x to y

timeToNormalize -= Time.unscaledDeltaTime;```

how can I turn timeToNormalize / timeToNormalizeCT into a maxDelta

[timber tide]

you can try movetowards and just do a constant speed

but I expect it's another issue than that

[quick pollen]

I want to set the time it takes to go from the original value to the target value

[timber tide]

I'd have to play around with it to really get an idea how it works, but perhaps someone else has some suggestions

[quick pollen]

technically I can use timeToNormalizeCT because its seconds

maybe multiply it with unscaledDeltaTime?

[modest dust]

How are you moving those objects?

[quick pollen]

using rigidbody

[modest dust]

FixedUpdate is affected by timescale, so rigidbodies are probably too? I'm not sure, but that might be the case

[quick pollen]

but I do want the projectiles to slow down

i want everything to slow down

even the player

my issue is that the slowdown is really jittery and laggy

i dont know how other games do it

[modest dust]

Since the FixedUpdate is running at a lower rate due to low timescale, I suspect that all those rigidbodies just jitter because of that

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Rigidbody-interpolation.html

You can play around with that, or introduce a separate timescale variable and multiply your object speed by it, without changing the actual timescale

[quick pollen]

the player uses charactercontroller and it moves smoothly

[quick pollen]

lemme try

holy shit thats it

[modest dust]

Interpolation calculates the pose of a Rigidbody in frames that fall between physics timestep updates, to reduce the appearance of visible jitter.

Yeah

[quick pollen]

literally the exact thing I need

thank you!

[modest dust]

[quick pollen]

just look at the difference lmao

altho it feels like the game got laggier overall?

cuz this is a lot of projectiles it has to interpolate on

[modest dust]

I reckon you could turn interpolation on and off when needed

[modest dust]

Or the second option I suggested

[quick pollen]

that one looks way more complicated

i could switch interpolation modes

[tepid summit]

                {
                    Frozen = !Frozen;
                    if (Frozen)
                    {
                        Time.timeScale = 0;
                    }
                    else
                    {
                        Time.timeScale = 1;
                    }

                }

                if (Input.GetMouseButtonDown(0))
                {
                    Debug.Log("Forwards");
                    TimeHolder.transform.Rotate(TimeSpin, 0, 0);
                }
                if (Input.GetMouseButton(1))
                {
                    Debug.Log("Rewind");
                    TimeSpin = TimeSpin * -1;
                }
                else
                {
                    TimeSpin = TimeSpin * 1;
                }

                if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.Q))
                {
                    TimeOrb = Instantiate(TimeOrb, FirePos.transform.position, Quaternion.identity);
                    Debug.Log("Orb Launched");
                }```So i have this here code for a time-based set of abilities, but for some reason no debugs are being logged, and it also doesnt give any errors (other abilities work just fine)

[quick pollen]

cuz I practically only need it during timescale changes

but the way my projectiles and their behaviour is handled is already a bit finnicky

[modest dust]

Not really, if you wanted a really simple and primitive solution then one static float would do, then just multiply the speed by it

[quick pollen]

i know how I could do it, but it feels like way too much pain

[quick pollen]

problem is that some patterns might get fucked by that

plus I'd also have to change the emmission rates then

[modest dust]

Understandable

[quick pollen]

cuz if I only changed the speed and not the emission rate, you could get impossible patterns because the projectiles slowed down and stacked on others

[willow scroll]

Nothing gets printed

[quick pollen]

not to mention things like homing or other things where the projectile has to rotate, where calculations could get fucked up

[modest dust]

Then there are 2 places (or 3) where you need to multiply instead of 1, but either way, both solutions are fine

[quick pollen]

maybe

but then you also have lifetimes

list goes on

much easier to just change all of the timescale

[gleaming burrow]

I have problem with my 2D animations

when I create an animation and after an animator for manage the animations, my animation is superposed with the other sprites

thanks to anyone can help me

[quick pollen]

can u like turn the video into an mp4 so it embeds?

[willow scroll]

Please, consider sending the animations in mp4 format. Discord doesn't support embed mkv.

[quick pollen]

https://cloudconvert.com/mkv-to-mp4

this should work

[gleaming burrow]

oh ok

[gleaming burrow]

thanks for link

[quick pollen]

oh, i think thats because of the exit time

but it should still work in game?

[gleaming burrow]

i didn'tt try

[willow scroll]

It isn't

[quick pollen]

you can turn on Has exit time, change the Exit time to 0 and turn off Has exit time maybe

[willow scroll]

That's because of the SpringBoard_Normal not being looped, resulting in the animation being played only once

[quick pollen]

oh it could be actually

[gleaming burrow]

so i make spriteBoard not loop time

[willow scroll]

You make it loop

[gleaming burrow]

Ah

[dim sentinel]

Could anyone help me understand why TextMeshPro Text 3D objects render through walls

[willow scroll]

It should have loopTime boolean

[gleaming burrow]

yas in the animation but it loop or not ?

[tender stag]

why am i getting this error?
FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.

public TMP_InputField lobbyInputField;

public void JoinLobby()
{
    CSteamID steamID = new CSteamID(Convert.ToUInt64(lobbyInputField.text));
    LobbyBootstrap.JoinWithID(steamID);
}```

its the conversion

buy i dont know why

[lost anvil]

my agent waits perfectly fine on the first point however after he is done thinking and reaches another point he just walks to another one instantly

• https://gdl.space/uzeramacaf.cs -

[willow scroll]

I currently don't have Unity opened, guess because of its renderQueue being 3001 > 3000. Not sure whether it's so with the 3D objects.

[willow scroll]

Is this your own class?

[tender stag]

yes

[willow scroll]

Oh, well, I don't think that's the issue

The text is not in the correct format

Convert.ToUInt64(lobbyInputField.text)

[tender stag]

but some guy in the tutorial didnt put the correct format in either

and it still worked

[willow scroll]

It converts the string to the ulong, but it's not gonna work out if the text looks like "fdfdsfs"

[tender stag]

when i put the text as 76561197960287930

it works

but if i put it as like 1234 it doesnt

and it did for him

thats why im confused

wait

nevermind

my bad

[willow scroll]

Well, are you sure it's 1234?

[gleaming burrow]

and for my problem can you have solution ?

[tender stag]

it wasnt

alright thanks

[willow scroll]

What is it supposed to mean?

[gleaming burrow]

when the player jump on the springBoard, the springBoard is compressed

[willow scroll]

I don't seem to get it

[languid spire]

lol, 'Think' about how often you are starting the coroutine

[lost anvil]

🤣 alright

[tender stag]

how can i check if clipboardText only contains numbers?

[quaint anchor]

hello i have a question, how would i make it so that when i click a button, the game takes a screenshot of the screen and saves it to a folder ?

[tender stag]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ScreenCapture.CaptureScreenshot.html

[lost anvil]

oh yeah im so dumb my bad

[quaint anchor]

thank you

[tender stag]

i just need to check if a string is numeric

only numbers

[gaunt ice]

test it with regular expression

[dusky zenith]

You can Regex.IsMatch

[tender stag]

yeah it works

thanks

[gleaming burrow]

I found the solution, it's complicate to explain but a found the her

[quaint anchor]

when generating a screenshot am i able to specify what folder I want it to go to or does it just save to the images folder on the persons computer, i currently made this script and it'll act as an on click event for a button

[languid spire]

I thought you promised faithfully yesterday that you were going to go away and at least learn the basics!

[quaint anchor]

i am still doing my project! I did look over some of the basics though !

[languid spire]

obviously not

[modest dust]

Go read the linked docs again and find an answer by yourself

It's literally in the param description, and below there are more details

[quaint anchor]

yes i have found it now

i can just use file name

[willow scroll]

Well, haven't I literally told you the solution?

[languid spire]

This is exactly what @slender nymph warned you against yesterday

[willow scroll]

Wooow, luna, whatcha doin here? Have you already learned all the C# basics?

[gleaming burrow]

I hav one parameter that I dont correctly configured, is on the property of the animation. I configurate the sprite of the game object SpringBoard and not the sprite in his child

[willow scroll]

You were able to finish your project yesterday, right? So there is no need to rush into Unity right away, is there?

[quaint anchor]

nope still working on it, im basically at the end though, just implementing this last thing

but ive worked it out now so im all good

[dusky zenith]

I thought you had 4 hours

[willow scroll]

Well, haven't you told me you had 4 hours left like.. half a day ago?

[quaint anchor]

i did but asked my teacher for an extension

[languid spire]

this how many 'last things'? 5 or 6

[quaint anchor]

it was due at midnight but i was up til like 2 am trying to finish it eventuaklly just called it quits went to bed and asked for an extension til the end of today

[willow scroll]

Oh, but you haven't scammed me.. right..?

[quaint anchor]

so ive just been working on it for hte past 3 or so hours now and its basically finished up

[willow scroll]

Why do you start the coroutine every frame for a few seconds in Update?

[lost anvil]

i fixed it

[willow scroll]

Got it

[willow scroll]

Also, I guess you should also fix the logic for your other states if you haven't yet.

[lost anvil]

whats wrong with them

[willow scroll]

You shouldn't be calling the StateIdle method every frame

The currentState is supposed to be assigned from somewhere else, right? Consider creating a method for its assignment.

[weary shoal]

How can I setup Unity to a fixed screen ratio / resolution?

I'm playing around with some ideas but realized I have no idea how to do this correctly. I tried to setup a orthographic camera with a script to modify the rect to my ratio and this works somewhat (I have a render pass bug is the game starts taller than wider), but this just gives a rather random screen size calculated by the camera size rather then a specific unit or pixel size. If I were to try to make an asteroids game where having a collider right outside the bounds of the camera this would be a nightmare to setup so I feel there must be a better way. I'm using the 3D URP if that makes any difference.

[ruby ember]

Is ok nevermind I made it work now

[summer shard]

so, i was browsing some unity code to try and learn something and i found this type of code in most scripts, can someone explain to me what it does and why is it here?

[deft grail]

basically just makes sure theres only 1 of this script in your scene

[summer shard]

ohhh, thanks

[charred spoke]

It’s called the singleton pattern check it out

[summer shard]

cool, i'll check it out

[wanton canyon]

trying to get a simple pressure plate going - just want it to go down when triggered and go up when no longer colliding, but the gameobject is flashing for some reason. I tried wrapping the trigger events within an if statement but that didnt change anything

[deft grail]

because you move it you probably exit/enter the collision multiple times

[wanton canyon]

yeah I thought it might be that which is why I tried the if but

[deft grail]

you could make the collider of the pressure plate bigger up an ddown which would fix it probably

[deft grail]

well the if doesnt really do anything

[wanton canyon]

oh ;_;

making collider bigger didnt change anything

[deft grail]

how did you do it? show the collider if you can

[wanton canyon]

collider before - collider after and result (so it did change something, but uh)

[deft grail]

you need to check if its colliding with the player or any other tags/layers you want so it doesnt collide with the floor

[wanton canyon]

alrighty so I looked into having it collide with only one particular game object, and in my case I want it to be the slimes in my game. separated it onto a new layer, toggled off all collision in physics matrix but with slimes (outlined objects), and it is still flashing...

[frigid sequoia]

Yo, I have a had a minor issue that I really don't know how to fix. When lerping, if the end point is moving during the transition, is there a way to like, not make whatever is moving speed and slow down like significantly? Like I want that if the end point gets closer, it doesn't slow that much and if it gets away it doesn't speed up that much. What would be the logic for something like that?

[tired junco]

Hey im trying to build a statemachine and till now it worked fine but currently i do have a problem with the jumpState due to the fact that after pressing the jump key -> state will switch to jumping but immediately switch back to idle/walking since after pressing the key the player will still be grounded (= condition for switching back to one of the grounded-states -> idle or walking) Do you have any ideas how to avoid/solve this problem? I thought about implementing a delay time until the jumping state will check if it should switch (but this solution seems kind of ass to me tbh.)

[frigid sequoia]

If you want a preassure plate is best to have a custom model with a shapekey (normal and pressed) rather than trying it to transform its position

[wanton canyon]

alrighty I'll try that

[dusk osprey]

hi what should i do if i dont see anything in the scene but i see while in game ?

[timber bough]

hello is there an easy way of cutting a simple square to make this

[wanton canyon]

I can see that your camera is rendering every layer. what might be happening is the pipeline settings - make sure the layers you want to see are checked in both these filtering options

[frigid sequoia]

Like the sprite or do you mean like a mesh?

[frigid sequoia]

Probably just move the camera lol

[dusk osprey]

nuh uh

[frigid sequoia]

F is shortcut for focus a selected object, try that

[dusk osprey]

that worked xd

thank you

<3

[tepid spoke]

is it possible to make the sprite mask reveal permanent?
i want to make a simple game where you have an image that is "pre reveal" and "revealed". the player swips with their finger to reveal the image.

can't seem to make it work

setting my main camera clear flag to "don't clear" doesnt seem to help

[languid spire]

Easy solution.
2 images on top of each other. call them front and back
As the user swipes on the front image you track the swipe and change the relevant pixels in that image to alpha zero thus revealing the back image where the swipe has taken place

[tepid spoke]

@languid spire thanks replying!
i guess it's getting a hold of the relevant pixels that is the tricky part? i know i can get raw buffer and iterate.

[languid spire]

not really, are you ding this as UI or world objects?

[tepid spoke]

at very early stage so can do either

2d ui would probably be the easiest

[languid spire]

UI is easier because then you can just calculate from mouse or touch position

[abstract finch]

How would I be able to set this value to the transforms current rotation? I don't want it to rotate at all.

This variable is being passed to this rotation function

    {
        Vector3 directionToTarget = (direction - transform.position).normalized;

        Quaternion newRot = Quaternion.Slerp(_currentRotation, Quaternion.LookRotation(directionToTarget), sharpness * Time.deltaTime);
        transform.rotation = newRot;
        _currentRotation = transform.rotation;
    }```
For some reason, it's still rotating the transform

FIXED:Found the issue, I didn't define _currentRotation in Awake()

[tepid spoke]

@languid spire is there some point in the documentation you'd be able to point to? ideally i guess it would be something like "get all overlapping pixels"

[languid spire]

Can I DM you, I can share code from a scrathcard game I made which does this

[tepid spoke]

absolutely, that sounds perfect

thanks a bunch!

[sick ocean]

Hello, I want to make a 3D game, but I don’t know where to start or what to learn first, such as programming, design, etc. I hope you can help me. ^_^

[languid spire]

!learn

[eternal falcon]

:teacher: Unity Learn ↗

Over 750 hours of free live and on-demand learning content for all levels of experience!

[sick ocean]

Thanks @languid spire

[muted wadi]

if I have a group of objects that I want to be designated interactable, is it best practice to give all of those objects a tag or put them on a layer?

[strong viper]

Depends on how they're classified

[muted wadi]

not really sure what you mean by that

[summer stump]

Best to give them a component, like a class called Interactable, or one that implements an interface called IInteractable

[summer stump]

I'm not either hahaha

[muted wadi]

i see

thats probably better

[summer stump]

A layer could be nice, in combination with it, to implement a layermask for raycasting or something

[muted wadi]

that's what i have right now, but im realising i need to distinguish between objects because different objects do different things, even if they can all be interacted with a mouse click

[summer stump]

Yeah, that kind of custom behaviour that you want to abstract away is perfect for interfaces

[muted wadi]

gotcha

thanks

[scenic saffron]

My game has a blackhole that has gravity, wanted to know how close my Code is too how Gravity works IRL
Code for Gravity in my Game:

Atraction = direction / (distance * (distance / 2)) * Gravety * Time.deltaTime;
        rb2D.AddForce(Atraction);

[timber tide]

not sure anyone is a blackhole expert here

https://forum.unity.com/threads/vortex-black-hole-physics.297783/
Something I came across before though worth a read

[languid spire]

I can see your problem straight away, Gravety is a brown liquid frequently used on meat dishes and unlikely to be found in a black hole

[gaunt ice]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity
gravity is a force, and why you multiply your force with dt meanwhile using addforce

[scenic saffron]

thx

[gaunt ice]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F6y8myu3ruxo71.png

[timber tide]

though real blackhole physics suck for games

[scenic saffron]

oh ok

[timber tide]

I made pun

[scenic saffron]

ik

[timber tide]

fun game blackholes with singularity throws you around in a vortex, while real blackholes devour you instantly

and turn you into spaghetti usually when you get near the center

[languid spire]

This comes back to an answer I gave earlier, in game dev dont try to simulate everything, you will fail, just make it look like you are

[scenic saffron]

ok

thx

[formal escarp]

Hey guys i have a funny error on my code and im not sure whats wrong.

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using UnityEngine.SceneManagement;

public class Restart : MonoBehaviour
{
    private void Update()
    {
        GetInput();
    }

    private void GetInput()
    {
        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.R))
        {
            Controller_Player._Player.gameObject.SetActive(true);
            Time.timeScale = 1;
            SceneManager.LoadSceneAsync("ScrollingShooterScene");
            Debug.Log("Scene restarted");
        }
    }
}

When i press R the scene restarts but the player does not. they stay on the same spot that they were before the restart.

[celest holly]

idk the problem but surely a workaround would be to set a characters spawnlocation whenever you load a scene

just in the start()

or even in the getinput()

[willow scroll]

• 1. Are you sure the player's current position isn't their initial position at the start of the game?
• 2. Are you sure your player doesn't use DDOL?

[formal escarp]

Yes. And i dont know what is a DDOL 💀

my player is a prefab tho.

[willow scroll]

https://www.google.com/search?q=unity+ddol

Does your player have a Don't Destroy On Load script attached, which prevents it from being reset on scene change?

[formal escarp]

oh yeah.

[willow scroll]

So it does?

[formal escarp]

yes. it has one in a script which is attached to them.

[willow scroll]

So that's the reason

[formal escarp]

oooohh thank you so much omg

[willow scroll]

Consider removing the DDOL if you don't need it

[formal escarp]

yeah i removed it and now it works perfectly.

[dusk osprey]

hi how can i fix these errors idk what its wrong with this

[ivory bobcat]

Probably a duplicate script

The error states that you've already got a Finish Point class

[dusk osprey]

i have this script too i should change something there ?

[ivory bobcat]

It says you've got a duplicate of the Finish Point script

[dusk osprey]

okey ,thanks

[blazing ivy]

How do i make a gorilla tag fan game? Noob here i only know scratch coding htmls heading <p> </p> and <li> </li>

[timber tide]

https://www.w3schools.com/cs/cs_intro.php
Time to learn some scripting

[stuck palm]

why is my custom physics system breaking at low fps? im using charactercontroller collisions to handle collision

[blazing ivy]

ok

[loud mango]

        if(Vector3.Distance(player.transform.position, transform.position) <= 10){
            agent.SetDestination(player.transform.position);
        }

        else{
            enemyPatrol();
        }
    }

    void enemyPatrol(){
        float randXPos = Random.Range(-10, 11);
        float randZPos = Random.Range(-10, 11);

        agent.SetDestination(new Vector3(randXPos, transform.position.y, randZPos));
    }```

what's the problem here?

this is a enemy ai script

" agent " here is NavMeshAgent

[willow scroll]

What do you mean by breaking? Also show your code.

[willow scroll]

You tell us

First of all, wrong naming conventions are used

void EnemyAI or EnemyAi

void EnemyPatrol

[loud mango]

ohkii

i cant figure the problem out

it does stop following when i am out of range

[willow scroll]

Why, do you want us to blind-guess

[loud mango]

but doesnt go to random positions

[loud mango]

idk

just tell me what info u want.

[willow scroll]

Secondly, the inted random number is created

[ivory bobcat]

Maybe consider explaining the problem and posting the error

[loud mango]

i am making a new enemy ai

it doesnt seem to go to random position when player not in range

[willow scroll]

And consider explaining it in a single message

[loud mango]

bruh i was typing ;-;

[summer shard]

would this also work instead of using normal overlap sphere?

if (Input.GetKeyDown("Space") && canMove &&
    Physics.OverlapSphereNonAlloc(groundCheck.position, 0.1f, null, groundLayer) != 0) {
    
}

[willow scroll]

Consider typing in a single message if you don't want your question to be interrupted

[ivory bobcat]

Place some logs to see if the player was in range

[loud mango]

the logs work

[willow scroll]

No, it won't work. The results array is null, and it will always return either 0 or an exception, I'm not sure

[loud mango]

i did see that first before reaching out to the discord

[ivory bobcat]

If you've got instances of when the player was in range but did not change destination, show the logs

[loud mango]

just a sec

[ivory bobcat]

Show what you've tried

[stuck palm]

i've got this static class which augments a vector 2 for movement, and use this to calculate bouncing. breaking means that like the bouncing goes the wrong direction

private void OnControllerColliderHit(ControllerColliderHit hit)
    { 
        Vector2 hitboxPos2D = new Vector2(transform.position.x, transform.position.y);
        Vector2 hitPoint2D = new Vector2(hit.point.x, hit.point.y);
        Vector2 normal = (hitPoint2D - hitboxPos2D).normalized;
        moveVector = FightPhysics.Bounce(moveVector, normal, 0.9f);
    }

[loud mango]

lemme record real quick

[willow scroll]

Why would one even need to many methods?

[stuck palm]

public static Vector2 Bounce(Vector2 velocity, Vector2 normal, float bounceFalloff)
    {
        Vector2 newMoveDirection = Vector2.Reflect(velocity, normal);
        velocity = newMoveDirection.normalized * (velocity.magnitude * bounceFalloff);
        return velocity;
    }

[summer shard]

so using overlap sphere is okay? rider gave me a warning to use non alloc version

[rich adder]

yes you should use nonalloc

[stuck palm]

im using my own code because rigidbody physics is too slidey and glidey so i decided to make my own

[ivory bobcat]

Log the normal and see what the value is when the ball goes in the wrong direction

[willow scroll]

You might want to use NonAlloc for the increased performance

[summer shard]

but it doesn't work

if (Input.GetKeyDown("Space") && canMove &&
    Physics.OverlapSphereNonAlloc(groundCheck.position, 0.1f, null, groundLayer) != 0) {
    Debug.Log("ye it work");
}

[willow scroll]

Read the first message I've sent

[rich adder]

because NonAlloc doesnt return a bool

[stuck palm]

it only happens when the FPS is low, could it be because when its low it falls through the floor and calculates it like that?

[willow scroll]

They check != 0

[loud mango]

idk why the it doesnt detect the player not being in range for the second time

[rich adder]

Ohh just seen that, I'm on mobile

[willow scroll]

The reason for it not working is in the 3rd parameter array results being null

[ivory bobcat]

Likely so. Log when and where the objects were when contact was evaluated.

[summer shard]

ohhh, so i need to just make an array of results, connect it to the "null" and check for size of the array being more or equal than one?

[rich adder]

correct, having null array there makes no sense

[willow scroll]

Mm, what?

[rich adder]

the only way to know why, is to debug

[willow scroll]

The NonAlloc version returns the amount of colliders inside of the array, which touch the sphere or are insideof it. Having an array with no items will always return either 0 or an exception, I'm not sure @summer shard

[loud mango]

what other debug stuff should i put?

[ivory bobcat]

How're you controlling fps btw? Where is this method being called?

[summer shard]

ohhh, i though it works like overlap sphere

but it outs the colliders

[ivory bobcat]

The physics step shouldn't really be affected by frames as it'll interpolate the loss frames regardless of how often Update is called.

[rich adder]

well for one your destination looks like is twitching and being incorrectly set

so start by fixing that

You can see the red line is twitching when it should not be

[willow scroll]

I still don't see any reason to have so many methods

[loud mango]

oo, what causes that though?

[willow scroll]

Do you say the angle is calculated good enough when the fps is high?

[summer shard]

why it doesn't work

if (Input.GetKeyDown("Space") && canMove &&
    Physics.OverlapSphere(groundCheck.position, 0.1f, groundLayer) != null) {
    Debug.Log("ye it work");
}

[willow scroll]

Do you use the Time.deltaTime?

[stuck palm]

it might not make sense just seeing it in a vaccuum but its basically how i move my characters

[stuck palm]

yeah baiscally

[rich adder]

?
I'm not a mind reader, I don't know your code lol

[loud mango]

oh sorry,

it went up after many messages

!code

[eternal falcon]

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[rich adder]

send link

[loud mango]

https://gdl.space/bizawiripo.cpp

[willow scroll]

OverlapSphere doesn't work

[ivory bobcat]

Relative to the code that you have shown #💻┃code-beginner message maybe log how far the code being executed thinks the player is.

[loud mango]

also is there any other ways to do this? cuz i made this on my own and it seems like really unreliable

[ivory bobcat]

Log how far the player is rather than the player simply not being within range

[willow scroll]

Wrong movement at low fps (definitely because of deltaTime)

[rich adder]

but your setting random position every frame?

log your distance, make sure it correct

[loud mango]

so i add a timer to set a random position after a set time

[willow scroll]

Yeah, you may use a coroutine

[rich adder]

first you should find out how many times thats being called

[loud mango]

okeii, imma do that and log stuff

[loud mango]

literally every frame

[rich adder]

yes exactly

so make it not

the issue is your patrolling behavior

[loud mango]

okeii

[ivory bobcat]

Log how far the player was
#💻┃code-beginner message

[loud mango]

imma fix stuff real quick and give updates

[stuck palm]

why isnt my drawLines working? gizmos are enabled in the editor.

private void OnControllerColliderHit(ControllerColliderHit hit)
    { 
        Vector2 hitboxPos2D = new Vector2(transform.position.x, transform.position.y);
        Vector2 hitPoint2D = new Vector2(hit.point.x, hit.point.y);
        Vector2 normal = (hitPoint2D - hitboxPos2D).normalized; 
        Debug.DrawLine(hitPoint2D, hitPoint2D + normal, Color.blue);
        Debug.DrawLine(hitPoint2D, hitPoint2D + moveVector.normalized, Color.red);
        moveVector = FightPhysics.Bounce(moveVector, normal, 0.9f);
        Debug.DrawLine(hitPoint2D, hitPoint2D + moveVector.normalized, Color.green);
    }

[swift crag]

have you checked that the code is running at all

note that the default lifetime of the line is one frame

[stuck palm]

yeah i had a debug log that would fire when it hit

oh right

[swift crag]

you had one (:

it doesn't matter if your code used to work; it matters if your code currently works

also, you can just assign a Vector3 into a Vector2 variable

[stuck palm]

i think i forgot to set the duration so thats my bad

[swift crag]

there is an implicit conversion that drops the Z coordinate

[stuck palm]

private void OnControllerColliderHit(ControllerColliderHit hit)
    { 
        Vector2 hitboxPos2D = new Vector2(transform.position.x, transform.position.y);
        Vector2 hitPoint2D = new Vector2(hit.point.x, hit.point.y);
        Vector2 normal = (hitPoint2D - hitboxPos2D).normalized; 
        Debug.DrawLine(hitPoint2D, hitPoint2D + normal, Color.blue, 1);
        Debug.DrawLine(hitPoint2D, hitPoint2D + moveVector.normalized, Color.red, 1);
        moveVector = FightPhysics.Bounce(moveVector, normal, 0.9f);
        Debug.DrawLine(hitPoint2D, hitPoint2D + moveVector.normalized, Color.green, 1);
    }

im not using rigidbody, im using a custom thing i made

[willow scroll]

They are using CharacterController.

[compact nymph]

is there a better way to only change the y of the rotation of an object to equal another than this because this way doesn't work for what I'm using it for (sorry if this is a dumb question)

[ivory bobcat]

Unless x and z were zero by default, you've set their values to zero

If you're just wanting to slowly rotate something, consider using the Rotate method of Transform

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Transform.Rotate.html

[rich adder]

thats because ur passing a quaternion in a euler angle

rotation.y is quaternion rotation, not euler

max value is 1

[compact nymph]

I'm trying to keep those two number 0

[compact nymph]

how do I change it to a euler then

[rich adder]

.eulerAngles ?

[hallow sun]

Try this:

Vector3 temp = orientation.transform.eulerAngles;
temp.y = Camera.main.transform.eulerAngles.y;
orientation.transform.eulerAngles = temp;```

[ivory bobcat]

Alright. Had figured the issue was to not change those values

only change the y of the rotation

[timber tide]

Should log some values when it makes contact. My only guess is that you need some semi-fixed timestep if you're doing stuff in update but I've honestly not much experience with cc

[willow scroll]

Please, consider moving to the thread #1233839502586282106

[timber tide]

unity will actually frame-catch up for physics, so it's interesting to know how CC combats a dip in low fps

[compact nymph]

thank you so much! this worked

[stuck palm]

clearly doesnt do it correctly, but that might just be how i've configured it

[stuck palm]

would doing it in fixed update change anything?

[timber tide]

Usually cc methods are called in update because it's based on raycast queries so I can't really say

[stuck palm]

rigidbody has the interpolate thing, but i guess cc doesnt have that

[timber tide]

I just know that without CC and moving via transform will clip if you don't compensate with interpolation

It's best to try to debug your issue as best as possible by logging such as the speeds between frame and calcs when changing direction after contact

considering CC is part of every unity's template, I can't expect it to have physics problem due to fluctuating fps

[stuck palm]

it might be my bad then, calculating the position wrong. how can i make like a little circle that shows the collision point?

[timber tide]

You can instantiate GOs at point of contact with a drawgizmo script on it

can also drawgizmo line in the direction the projectile is facing

One suggestion you could try is doing the calculations at a fixed timestep, but still moving the cc in update

https://gafferongames.com/post/fix_your_timestep/
Also neat little blog I reference when setting up my update loop with other programs

[stuck palm]

i'll try that, but isnt fixedupdate at a fixed timestep? isnt that kinda the point cant i just use tehat

im just confused as to what the difference is

my game also changes the timescale so idk if like

that would change anything

[rocky canyon]

Time.fixedDeltaTime defines the rate of the physics calculations. The default is 0.02 = 50 Hz. When you modify Time.timeScale that rate effectively varies based on the scale. For example, setting Time.timeScale = 1.5 means that everything will run 1.5 times faster. This includes both game time and physics, which in this case will run effectively at 75Hz to match the scaled time.``` https://forum.unity.com/threads/adjusting-time-fixeddeltatime-by-time-timescale.869491/

i was curious as well how timescale affected the physics step

[stuck palm]

ah interesting

 public static Vector2 Bounce(Vector2 velocity, Vector2 normal, float bounceFalloff)
    {
        Vector2 newMoveDirection = Vector2.Reflect(velocity, normal);
        velocity = newMoveDirection.normalized * (velocity.magnitude * bounceFalloff);
        return velocity;
    }

does this look like correct code for a bounce?

[rocky canyon]

, looks fine to me

[stuck palm]

i know it works, but im just wondering if maybe theres an issue with it because the bounce direction can be kind of temperamental

and kind of breaks when the fps is limited as mentioned before

one sec i'll post logs

[languid spire]

Rule of thumb, don't fuck with timeScale, weird shit can happen

[rocky canyon]

ah, sounds like a fun thing to troubleshoot

you could do the calculations manually.. using the normal

but thats what .Reflect is already doing so..

[stuck palm]

i only really mess with it when it comes with pausing

[stuck palm]

video of the issue

[rocky canyon]

u could always cap ur frame rate for consistency.. but how bad of a Frame rate are u anticipating?

[stuck palm]

the video shows when the fps is stuck at 30

to be fair i think most fighting games cap their fps at 60

[rocky canyon]

ya, that reflect is wigging out 😄

[stuck palm]

one sec i'll get some screenshots

[rocky canyon]

is the ground 1 solid collider?

[stuck palm]

yeah its one big mesh

[rocky canyon]

is that thing a sphere? i would def use a sphere collider to reduce weird angles n such

[stuck palm]

first one is uncapped, other one is 30fps cap

[rocky canyon]

interesting.. lol

[stuck palm]

yes im using a character colliderb

smallest one is the character collider, larger one is hitbox for players

[rocky canyon]

you run all the logic only in fixedupdate? to see what happens then..

yea idk, cant explain why ur physics would be different (well, not that different)

[stuck palm]

larger one is a trigger and only collides with the player layer

[stuck palm]

no it all runs in update

i mean

[rocky canyon]

i could maybe see a slight variation in the angle w/ different framerates..

but not like that

[stuck palm]

i should clarify that blue is the normal, red is the old movement vector and green is the new one

the balls are both thrown at the same speed though

so its weird

im using a custom physics thing that i made myself

okay, now its happening on uncapped fps lmao

i put the movement code in fixed update

[rocky canyon]

but atleast its consistent

that means its probably not because of the physics.. but rather you initatiating physics thru the update

and bit of desync

[stuck palm]

yeah, now that i've put the movement in fixed update, the directions are remaining consistent between 60 and 30fps

[rocky canyon]

ya, soo its probably something in the update loop

[rocky canyon]

ya, that looks alot better

[stuck palm]

strange that the fps like directly changes the angle

[rocky canyon]

well.. its b/c the normal was differnt.. just a few millimeters can change an angle alot

[stuck palm]

much more consistent but its consistently wrong too LOL

anyway this is a step forward at least

[rocky canyon]

yup.. i agree

maybe not straight forward.. but forward none-theless

[stuck palm]

private void OnControllerColliderHit(ControllerColliderHit hit)
        {
            if (collisionCooldownTimer >= 0) {return;}
            collisionCooldownTimer = collisionCooldown;
            Vector2 hitboxPos2D = transform.position;
            Vector2 hitPoint2D = hit.point;
            Vector2 normal = (hitPoint2D - hitboxPos2D).normalized; 
            Debug.DrawLine(hitPoint2D, hitPoint2D + normal, Color.blue, 1);
            Debug.DrawLine(hitPoint2D, hitPoint2D + moveVector.normalized, Color.red, 1);
            moveVector = FightPhysics.Bounce(moveVector, normal, 0.9f);
            Debug.DrawLine(hitPoint2D, hitPoint2D + moveVector.normalized, Color.green, 1);
            GameObject collisionPoint = Instantiate(new GameObject("Hitpoint"), hitPoint2D, Quaternion.identity);
            InvisibleGizmo invis = collisionPoint.AddComponent<InvisibleGizmo>();
            invis.size = 0.4f;
            invis.gizmoColor = Color.white;
        }

[rocky canyon]

you can make ur physics step run faster..

may help with more accurate angles as well

[stuck palm]

this is how i calculate the angle

[rocky canyon]

good gizmo use :)... my new physics mechanics end up with dozens

[stuck palm]

again i should make it clear that i use my own physics thing, not rigidbody or anything like that, my physics only consists of applying gravity and drag to a vector2

public static Vector2 CalcEnv(Vector2 velocity)
    {
        velocity -= velocity * (dragCoefficient * Time.deltaTime);
        return velocity;
    }
    
    public static Vector2 ApplyGravity(Vector2 velocity)
    {
        velocity.y -= gravity * Time.deltaTime;
        return velocity;
    }

[stuck palm]

yeah it spawns like 100s 😭

[rocky canyon]

nothing wrng with that

i do the same except i ignore drag unless i specifically want it

[stuck palm]

yeah i need drag otherwise my characters move around too floaty like lmao

in the air at least, on the ground the players are either moving or stationary there is no inbetween

so im just confused as to how to fix the angle

[rocky canyon]

ya, to me, i just call that dampening.. my controller also has that for movement.. when im not giving inputs it takes the last input and lerps it towards zero.. while still feeding it into the controller

well i guess u could argue the middle variable here is drag..

[stuck palm]

its just weird because if you look at the video it appears to bounce off the ceiling just fine

[rocky canyon]

you try or willing to try a physics material?

could just let the physics engine do the bounce

may not be arcade enough for ur game tho

[stuck palm]

might just have to do that tbh, but idk if using the rigidbody will feel consistent with my game feel

[rocky canyon]

ive done a catapult before and it wasn't bouncey enough even w/ the physics material.. so i just applied some upwards force to the normal bounce

[stuck palm]

i specifically made my physics "engine" to make it feel more consistent and nice

[rocky canyon]

and it worked out great for the situation.. i think it was canon balls bouncing off of water