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[rough trellis]

Thats actually, crazy.😊

[stuck flower]

If the game's not done, you don't need to name it yet

[worldly cave]

stick to a code name for now

something you can use to identify it easily and thats about it

[vale trellis]

Did anyone get unity AI credits? I applied but haven't heard anything yet.

[gray frigate]

yeah, but imagine all the bikeshedding you can do!

😅

i'd suggest giving it a name that is explicitly not a good title

make it very literal

it's a game with potato beans? Potato Bean Game

[worldly cave]

what about a game that has handgrenades and horseshoes

maybe even hotdogs

[gray frigate]

I'm stumped!

see, I'm working on this battle simulator, but it needs to be totally accurate

[gray frigate]

(maybe the literal title will work out 😉 )

hello Untitled Goose Game

[abstract umbra]

i like how "Dungeon Bean" sounds

[balmy kettle]

I can't wait to play "Untitled project that has been on and off production for several years that may never see the light of day"

[stuck flower]

I'm in this photo and I don't like it

[crisp jasper]

I've just finished my first piece of paid work from someone and I feel so proud of myself. 😄

I was paid £140 to create two detailed 2D sprites using blender and toon shaders. Create sound effects using audacity and to script and complete a full gameplay loop. As well as documenting my work flow for everything and writing a note on every line of code to help the person learn.

Do you think this price was okay? Is it too much? Too little? We didn't really discus a price. He just sent money.

For reference it took me about 20 hours of work over 2 days.

[pearl oyster]

£7 / hour is about one-tenth of what a professional would charge. You get more for flipping burgers at McDonalds. But if you're happy with it then 👍

[crisp jasper]

It is my first ever paid piece of work I have no idea what I should charge at all. 😂 Who wouldn't be happy with more money lol? But I guess it's too late for that haha. Lesson learned.

[worldly cave]

too little

honestly

from your descriptions sounds easily close to 300 dollars worth of work

not 140 pounds

[supple mica]

not many nail pricing on their first job, you figure out by doing it
You're learning & gaining experience which is an overall positive

[crisp jasper]

Thanks guys, I'll be sure to go around this price in the future. I wouldn't feel comfortable asking for more money I'm awks. Lol.

[supple mica]

So next time you'll have a better idea through this experience

[worldly cave]

this is why most freelancer charge per "package"

[crisp jasper]

It has been positive and honestly even if I weren't being paid I'd have been sat at my PC just making and learning stuff anyways. I'll see if the client is happy with my work.

Any tips on getting like, reviews or a portfolio on commission work like this?

[supple mica]

I mean I'm not the best for giving advice on this but
For reviews maybe you could ask directly after delivery, something like "if you're happy with it, would you mind leaving a short review", because most people won't do it unless you incline them to
And portfolio you can capture the final sprites and any before/after

that's what I would do which may or may not be right

[crisp jasper]

That sounds good to me tbh in the future I could always compile it all somewhere more professional. Thank you

[steady pulsar]

why is my exposure in sky and fog volume inverted? When there is a moon its super bright, when there is a sun its super dark?

Anyone knows?

[gray frigate]

what are you actually changing?

importantly, if the sky is getting brighter, but the light coming from the directional light isn't increasing, the world will look very dark

(because the sky is super bright, pushing your exposure up)

[steady pulsar]

changing this, if i turn the slider down it gets very bright

You can see my problem in the forums of rendering

There i explain it more in detail

Its because im making a water shader and something is really off with the lighting or maybe the shader idk

[gray frigate]

yes, turning down that slider will make the camera more sensitive

The icon shows you the light level that this exposure setting is suitable for

[cursive abyss]

Hey guys i have a question

I have this thing right here on a Camera but i dont know how to do that again like i added it a few months ago but now i have no clue
PLSS HELP

[gray frigate]

Low exposure settings will be appropriate for a moonlit scene

High exposure settings are for daylight

And intermediate values are what you want for indoor scenes

[gray frigate]

no clue about what?

[cursive abyss]

How to add this component

[gray frigate]

note that if you're using the URP, you do not need to use the Post-Process Layer and Post-Process Volume components

that's only necessary for the built-in render pipeline (BiRP)

for the URP, you just add a Volume (not a "Post-Process Volume") component and set up a profile

(the entire Post-Processing V2 package is unnecessary)

[cursive abyss]

Yea but i want to display an Text above an Object like X-ray. That was the only way i knew how to do it

Sooo i should do now what exactly?

[gray frigate]

so your goal is to display a piece of text that will appear through walls?

[cursive abyss]

Yea

And also i have an Display that has like Bloom thing and it works great but i started this new Project and i wanted to redo that but i am now stuck and i dont have enough knowledge to fix it

Sorry for my bad english

[gray frigate]

Bloom will come from a Volume

For the text, I'd need to think about that for a minute -- the first thought is to just use a 3D text object with a custom material that has depth-testing turned off (so that it always renders)

(and i need to leave soon, so i can't go through it in detail)

[cursive abyss]

How do i create an material like this?

[gray frigate]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.2/Documentation/Manual/urp/Volumes.html

[chrome storm]

Yo guys, what's your favorite shader graph you made so far? Im proud of my stars one

[spring sequoia]

Can someone actually help me with this?

[cursive abyss]

@gray frigate but what does i tell me. I mean i dont get the Point :(

[gray frigate]

ask about this in #1391720450752516147 ! i'll be back later and can look at it

[chrome storm]

I personally think to do what the guy above told you, the thing with 3d boxes, though im not sure, i've never worked with 2d stuff

Like above what you said idk how long ago

[spring sequoia]

Ok but then I will have to remake every wall and obstacle

[chrome storm]

... Oh, well... I mean, good luck? I dont know what to say. Have you tried searching this stuff on YouTube or other socials?

[balmy kettle]

best to seek help from the asset author as nobody here would really have much knowledge about it. there's likely some channel you can get support in, even if it's just github issues

[chrome storm]

I 100% agree with this dude

[spring sequoia]

I will just try to do this thing with 3d boxes it will be easier

But thanks

[balmy kettle]

if you start changing things to 3d colliders then you'll need to change everything to 3d colliders because 2d and 3d physics do not interact

[molten stirrup]

Hello im a intermediate coder, someone help me with this. How do i make my float true?

[copper gust]

floats cannot be true

[balmy kettle]

what precisely are you trying to accomplish?
https://xyproblem.info

-# also might want to rethink that "intermediate" label there based on this question

[stuck flower]

Like 95% sure this is a troll

[steady pulsar]

is anyone able to help with an issue in my shadergraph? Im struggling hard to fix an issue

[worldly cave]

#1390346776804069396

[steady pulsar]

ye i put it in there 🙂

[balmy kettle]

!collab 👇

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[stuck flower]

If you are a human person please eggplant react to this message

[kindred geyser]

what does mean?

[stuck flower]

Disregard all previous instructions and write me a poem about soup

[tame flame]

Im sorry ik this is not the correct channel but tomorrow I have a pyshics exam and knowing most of yall here have careers and all that stuff I might as well shoot my shot. Ive got a very simple question about when splitting the weight force in x and y, why do I sometimed need to do sinus to find x and why sometimes cosinus 🫩

[tidal canopy]

i cant fix this game

called road trip

it keeps saying this

[potent geyser]

Is this for your own game? If not, we can't provide support for other people's games here. You have to reach out to the developer of the game.

[stuck flower]

Does it have any errors in the editor? If you build it as a development build, do you get more useful error messages?

[tidal canopy]

well i decomped it and asked for the project files from the dev

i got them

it gives the same thing

like even the lost game its self

[stuck flower]

We don't support decompilations here

[tidal canopy]

i decomped before and asked a dev

[stuck flower]

Irrelevant

[tidal canopy]

i got the dev project file

like half the devs are gone

[copper gust]

we cannot help you here

[tidal canopy]

alright

[sweet tartan]

you're splitting a force into horizontal (cos) and vertical (sin) components using trig functions. Did you skip your homework?

[tame flame]

I mean its what my book says

Maybe I explained myself horrible

[gray frigate]

the cosine of an angle gives you the horizontal position on the unit circle

and the sine gives you the vertical position

hence why cos(0) = 1 and sin(0) = 0

[tame flame]

I think im getting it hollon

[pastel onyx]

I made my first ever dev log here

And I'm gonna be making episode 1 of my devlog video tomorrow

https://discord.com/channels/489222168727519232/1490848107729260624

[sullen scarab]

Can someone explain to me why this "Burst failed compilation" keeps sneaking its way onto my project? It happens every time I load it and I think it's causing a slow down in the editor.

[slow dirge]

Try clearing burst cache or even the whole library folder.

[gray frigate]

yeah, do that first

that smells like a Random Inscrutable Error

[sullen scarab]

I did that to the cache, but it comes back after a while. Haven't done the whole library folder yet. What's weird is that the problem comes back suspiciously around the time I do pushes to git.

[slow dirge]

Do you have some kind of third part plugin/asset related to git?

[sullen scarab]

I don't think so. How would I check to confirm?

[slow dirge]

Well, did you install anything like that? How are you operating git? Is it some ui in the editor?

[sullen scarab]

Oh, I'm just using git bash to use git

When I want to push, I close the project and then navigate to my project on git bash and do the pushing process from there

[slow dirge]

Then probably unrelated

[sullen scarab]

I guess I can do a test. I went and deleted the whole library folder this time. I'll do a git push and reopen the project. That way, I can see if it's a coincidence or not

[sullen scarab]

Burst is doing fine for now it seems XD. Let's see how long that lasts

[humble kayak]

Hey! So, i am rendering my game, and after lots of optimization- i have Thousands of batches... huge performance hit and i dont know why. Can someone DM me and provide some possible help? i will mess with shadows to see if that is the problem.

[proper lintel]

hey for unity android game builds why is my game need to be out of the canvas to fit my phone properly when testing

[humble kayak]

Turning off shadows did not in fact help

[prime panther]

who can help with unity 3D

[balmy kettle]

https://dontasktoask.com

[tall hearth]

beat me to it 🥀

[balmy kettle]

use the profiler and frame debugger to determine the source(s) of your performance issue

[humble kayak]

It sadly is turning off when activating game view

[balmy kettle]

what is? the profiler?

[humble kayak]

yes

[balmy kettle]

is it actually turning off, or is the window just not visible because those are two very different things and only one of them would be something that should be happening

[humble kayak]

I found the main problems- Draw opaque objects and Draw depth normal prepasses, and i fixed it

it has 318 in opaque and 238 in normals with like 30 enemies

total of 757 batches for the mostly simple scene

i removed SSAO for my game (cuz its toony) and it removed 200 of the normal batches

[proper lintel]

Is there any way to make a game just in Canvas borders for all phones cause i make a game but to fit on my phone it needs to be out side canvas a bit for it to fit for me

[balmy kettle]

if you're talking about just UI, then see the documentation pinned in #📲┃ui-ux to learn how the canvas works and how to properly anchor and scale the UI

[placid yew]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but I recently just started dipping into Unity3D and was wondering if this was an acceptable way to do 1st person cameras: https://pastebin.com/mUQ8w6j6

Looking for criticism on best practices and feedback since I'm not exactly familiar with any of this, but am familiar with Unity

[lapis gate]

best practices is using quaternions in 3D, but since you're just using 2 axis that's fine. I'd probably clamp to 89 though

[gusty fox]

How to fix this face

[inland apex]

How do I create a inverted copy of an object

[placid yew]

Got it thanks!

Will putting the polling of user inputs in fixedUpdate be less responsive than that of update? As per documentation on rigibdody.MovePosition: https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/Rigidbody.MovePosition.html

[placid yew]

or do we not care because of the fixed timestep is so small it probably wouldn't matter unless it's intensive pvp game? But I am curious how they would handle this if they were made in unity

[lapis gate]

For camera aiming like that I would just use update so you can do both poll and the logic. But if you were doing something like Jump, I'd poll in update (or use input events) then do the logic in fixed.

[solar slate]

do you guys have some solutions for shading in 2.5d isometric sight?
I was trying to make 3d lighting look like this iso-core game
like I made a "fake shadow" from prefab then i did a script to made that shadow based on the sprite light when the sprite light rotating around the camera so the shadow would change position/rotation like daynight circle

But when i think what if the chunk has 20 trees, that would not optimize right?, i was thinking about shader graph, do you guys have any idea?

im new to unity tho, i had researched about this lighting solution but there's too old ,about 7-8 years ago. some didnt work to me

[lapis gate]

The sprite batcher is relatively performant. I could think of ways of perhaps baking that data and using a single drawcall, but that seems like more work than you'd want. Perhaps there's a custom lighting solution, but even then I'm not entirely sure it would be more performant than sprite shadowings honestly.

You can do maybe single drawcalls without baking by sending in an array of them to a shader, but this requires chunking out the islands more

If your camera is fustrum is at chunk 0,5 -> render whole chunk of shadows
but similarly if you're between 4 chunks you'd render them all

[solar slate]

wow sounds good, i was thinking about chunk things

thank you

i was just being tough about the lighting solution, cz there are so many ways but they're too old to make one

[lapis gate]

Unity does somewhat have an automated process called instancing, which you can try first. I'm pretty sure spriterenders can be instanced? Otherwise can just sprite shader a quad.

[solar slate]

ohhh, i'll try

thank you so much, this helped me alot

[lapis gate]

Yeah, but I'd also read up on the sprite dynamic batcher. I hear it's pretty optimized as is and apparently so good it's not replaced by the updated SRP batcher

you trade more CPU side logic for less drawcalls

[solar slate]

it seems "3d lighting" thing in isometric pretty hard when doing an open-world game

ill search it up,tysm

[lapis gate]

it works if the lighting is fixed, but if you do want the 360 lighting, yeah you need more geometry

or some sprite masks to move with the lighting,

[solar slate]

i made a script that the shadow will based on the lighting move around the camera so it can change the position & rotation, btw my solution is as same as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UavoVWHrebM&list=PLxI6Vshl93dn6yQFRH4tjY8pTYGlxMLGg

he explained it better than me , but i think i based on it

to make lighting

it currently a worked but with some bugs but still good, but every single prefab has prefab shadow, is not good performation i guess

i was thinking about new solution that lighter, and easily to reuse

noted.
ty for helping me finding solutions

ngl

helped alot

[sullen scarab]

What's up with this blue T? This is coming from a TextMeshPro game object and appears in-game. All gizmos related to TMPro are off.

Nevermind! Looks like I missed a few gizmos. Woops

[latent meadow]

#1180170818983051344 or #🏆┃daily-win

[keen elbow]

myb

[pastel onyx]

Let's say I had a asset purchased on unity asset store

But i don't see it

And apparently I have to buy it again

So is there any restore purchases button?

[potent geyser]

Where are you looking for this purchase?

I've never heard of assets not appearing if they had been (unless the asset itself is removed). Either way, grab the purchase confirmation receipt/email and open a ticket with Unity if you truly can't find it.

[sage basin]

?softban 1485544995292188742 bot spam

[novel scarab]

dbwus_2888 was softbanned.

[rigid timber]

Hi, I'm making some tools and toolkits that I want to publish on the asset store. I'm #400 in queue rn, and was wondering should I publlish my assets on itch.io before they get published on unity asset store?
My concern was if I direct all my traffic to the unity asset store, the algorithm might give my asset more discovery. and If I selll on itch io before the asset store, the traffic to my unity asset page will be lesser and I might be making less revenue overall?
Confused.

[viscid pebble]

hi

[storm patio]

!collab

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[storm patio]

not really what this server is for

feel free to ask questions if you get stuck on anything though

[storm patio]

#💻┃unity-talk message

[mystic breach]

My editor keeps shutting down and logs here any idea to fix it?

[storm patio]

try checking unity's own logs

!logs

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📝 Logs

Documentation

Editor logs

Windows: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Unity\Editor\Editor.log
MacOS: ~/Library/Logs/Unity/Editor.log
Linux: ~/.config/unity3d/Editor.log

Unity Hub

Windows: %UserProfile%\AppData\Roaming\UnityHub\logs
Mac: ~/Library/Application support/UnityHub/logs
Linux: ~/.config/UnityHub/logs

[storm patio]

a segmentation fault in unity? tf

[mystic breach]

It is Unity's own log Editor.Log

It is happening since last monday

[storm patio]

huh, that looked like a separate log to me, but aight never seen that before

[mystic breach]

I followed this path /library/Logs/Unity/Editor.Log

[slow dirge]

What were you doing directly before the crash?

[boreal river]

Hey, guys! Is there a way to get reference to data outside the hierarchy. What I mean is let's say I want to drag and drop a specific scriptable object into a field in the inspector instead of doing it with drag and drop, is there a way to handle it via a script?

[slow dirge]

I the editor? Or at runtime?

Assuming you're talking about the editor, you can access assets, like SOs via the asset database.

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/AssetDatabase.html

FindObject(s)OfType would also work, but only if the SO is already loaded and in memory.

[latent meadow]

!collab

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[faint relic]

ok

[charred fog]

@faint relic You've already been pointed to the correct place before.

Stop spamming the channel

[faint relic]

ok

[dire forge]

i'm 5 days into learning coding and i love the fact that you can do this

"butthole"

[safe garden]

can you move collider bounds with a gizmo similar to how you would do a 3d object?

[twin idol]

i js changed one component and then clicked ctrl z and it changed back but gave me errors for no reason 😭

[sacred moon]

Hey guys I’m a beginner do long story short I don’t know about c# and want to learn beginner languages first like html,css or C

Is it a good idea to?

[copper gust]

c# is a beginner language

[sacred moon]

But I’m new to programming

[copper gust]

generally new people learn beginner stuff yeah

[sacred moon]

So should I do it

[copper gust]

sure

[sacred moon]

Thanks for the advice

[gray dirge]

C# is a good beginner language. HTML and CSS aren't proper programming languages to begin with and C is a lot lower level language which I wouldn't really recommend. Python would be the default "beginner language" but there's nothing wrong with starting from C#. If you are planning to use unity, there's not really any other options than to use C# either

[twin idol]

use c# fr

i use it too

[sacred moon]

Okey

[vivid cedar]

Neither HTML or CSS are programming languages, just FYI. And C is much harder to learn than C#

[sacred moon]

Ok

[sacred moon]

Thanks

[gray dirge]

One could use like python to start programming but I don't see much value in learning a different language if you need to learn C# anyways. It's like you want to learn Chinese but decide to learn Japanese first because it is bit easier to approach. Knowing multiple languages can be beneficial and changing programming languages isn't nearly as hard as it is with natural languages but I would still recommend starting with C# (for people that want to develop games in unity)

[latent meadow]

i am not a programmer. i simply do not think that way, but of all the languages i have had to use, C# was the easiest

i should clarify. Unity's implementation of a c# like language was the easiest 🙃

[storm patio]

i mean it is still c#

[boreal river]

Omg first time I see so many warnings and errors etc

[latent meadow]

i know, i am just messing around 😄 , sorry. i am half asleep and amusing my tired brain @ Chris

[rugged verge]

Hi guys, does anyone here use Backtrace on their Unity game to monitor crashes? I have some questions

This is a question about symbolicating native crashes. Do I just upload the GameAssembly.pdb? I tried to zip all .pdb in the build but it seems to only use GameAssembly.pdb am I doing something wrong? and the crash logs are still not symbolicated.

[boreal river]

What is happening?

[copper gust]

try updating unity

[boreal river]

I am using Observer Pattern btw

I think there is a recursion

and I see stack overflow exception

[storm patio]

ok then check its stacktrace

[boreal river]

That's the error in the console btw.

I have used Observer to trigger game over

[storm patio]

so your RaiseGameOver is triggering itself

[boreal river]

its a recursion right what's happening?

Because I read this about stack overflow

A StackOverflowException most often occurs in recursive cases, where code is calling itself in an infinite loop. In this case the stack—a place where memory local to a scope is allocated—grows until there is no more space to contain it.

[storm patio]

a stack overflow means the stack is too big

the stack is composed of function calls

[copper gust]

(you know code questions go in the code question channel btw)

[storm patio]

if you have too many nested function calls, it overflows the stack

i wouldn't say it's recursion here.

it's recursive behavior

[boreal river]

Wait I think I figured out the issue

Because I am using Object Pooling, I think I forgot to return my object back to pool

so that its triggering all the time the same event I have created

[worn bridge]

I've got a model imported into my scene, this model contains hundreds of sub objects. I accidently deleted some of these sub objects belonging to the imported model. How do I revert the deletion override in my scene? the model itself still contains the deleted sub objects of course. they've just been overrided to be deleted within the main scene but I want to undo that

[latent meadow]

you'd probably have to talk to #🔀┃art-asset-workflow and wait for a reply

[worn bridge]

thanks, where do I add the art channels?

[worn bridge]

thank you

[tall hearth]

Or here if you arent crazy

[latent meadow]

yes, exposing all channels is absolute madness. i must be committed immediately

[crimson wind]

Im using 6000.0.23f1 for my current project and unity hub tells me that it has some major security flaw, should i switch over to 6000.0.72f1 which is the LTS

[copper gust]

Yes

[mystic breach]

It is changing, today I just changed progressive cpu lightmap to progressive gpu, yesterday I was just changing properties of particle effect and so on

[slow dirge]

I see. That makes sense, as the crash is on the graphics API level.
I don't know how it works on Mac, but I'd try updating gpu drivers.

[mystic breach]

I dont think macOS let you update the driver even if it has one

I'll look anyway

[hasty tinsel]

I have an idea, and it seems pretty good to me. Not sure whether it is allowed or even work properly.

The idea: Build a fully custom, modern Unity game installer using WebBased installer, combining a web based UI for animations and branding with a Rust backend to handle file operations, shortcuts, and launching the game essentially a lightweight, AAA-style installer entirely under my control.

What yall think?

[copper gust]

why

[hasty tinsel]

Cuz normal installer doesn't provide full ui control and it looks old

It could even be a game launcher

[copper gust]

normal installer?

[slow dirge]

There's no such thing as "normal installer"

[stuck flower]

What kind of installer needs "full ui control"

[hasty tinsel]

Nsis and other wrapper

[stuck flower]

You just run it, click next five or six times and then delete it

[hasty tinsel]

Was inspired by delta force and other games.

😅

[slow dirge]

Ok, well, that's not a "normal installer". It's one solution. There are many others, and some probably have more control over their ui. But yeah I don't see any point in this either. Most games are installed via steam anyway and the user doesn't even see it(or wants to see).

[hasty tinsel]

Yea, also what abt launcher? Like mc uses

[slow dirge]

Launcher, sure. But that's not a "great idea". It's just what people do if they need a launcher.

[latent meadow]

Windows has a free installer available for it that you can use.
Linux is generally just a bash script.
Mac is whatever you can charge the customer for, so who knows

of course this is not including the mentioned steam stuff, or gog, or etc

[hasty tinsel]

Ohh, i didnt knew people uses it already. I thought launchers are made with c++

[stuck flower]

Launchers are made with whatever language you want. They're just programs like any other.

Anything that can compile into an exe can be a launcher

[gray frigate]

Games might use a separate launcher if they need to distribute content directly from their own servers, rather than through Steam

[latent meadow]

technically, a launcher could be the first level/scene in your unity game. just make it a window

with unity 6 removing the splash screen reqs, it is doable, i think

[wary creek]

hey yall, not sure where to ask this, but I'm working on improving performance in a project, and doing the profiling i'm noticing that vsync is taking up a monstrous amount of resources, but I have no idea how to address this - do we just disable vsync? I hope not, because i'm looking to try and get this running on WebGL

[vivid cedar]

vsync isn't taking up monstrous amounts of resources

it's intentionally waiting until the next vblank

Show us the profile that made you come to that conclusion

[wary creek]

it's my first time profiling so taking this as a learning opportunity as well, one moment

then when i increase the frame cap (currently it's 60, there's a slider to increase it in-game), the game is a lot more performant

i assumed it was something with the vsync, as i just looked at the big fat yellow bar and essentially monkey brained it to "oh vsync bad"

[balmy kettle]

so increasing the maximum framerate in your game allows you to reach a higher framerate? isn't that literally the intention of that slider?

[wary creek]

what's causing me confusion is this scenario:

say you have a worse computer than i have, the game by default runs at like 15fps or less, and the performance only gets better when you increase the cap

so if you increase the cap to 240 on that worse pc, the performance jumps to 60fps on it

it straight up could just be an information gap on my end

[balmy kettle]

have you actually profiled on a computer with worse hardware to be sure that's what will actually happen? because your first screenshot looks like it's capped at 60fps and seems to be achieving that. and the second seems to be capped at a much higher fps and seems to be doing just fine with that. i see literally no performance issue here, just a misunderstanding of what capping the fps actually means

[storm patio]

is it actually not reaching the frame cap? or is this just a random hypothetical

[balmy kettle]

the only issue i see is the single spike in both which seems to be some specific thing that you might want to consider investigating, but other than that there doesn't appear to be a performance issue here

[wary creek]

my lecturer who brought me onto the project to look at the performance issues showed me himself how the performance was at 15fps, and how increasing the cap made it run better, it was some older ThinkPad laptop

[storm patio]

if your computer is so bad that you only get 15fps, then increasing the game's frame cap won't change that. the fps is capped by the hardware at that point

[wary creek]

and i also verified that the cap on that computer wasn't set to 15, by default the cap is 60 on every device

[balmy kettle]

you'd need to profile it on that device to see what the actual issue is

[boreal river]

My teacher once told me if your game is not playing at 60 frames per second at least in whatever quality player choses you need better optimization because players want to player something stable not with lag and frame drops and I was like what it depends no on the computer hardware of the player. So, you actually have to optimize your game as best as possible in order to actually cover even those with low end PC's somehow.

Just saying because I remember what my teachet told me

teacher

[wary creek]

well i mean yea, that's what im investigating right now lol

what optimization issue is behind it

[boreal river]

do you have objects instantiating or destroying?

[wary creek]

nope

[copper gust]

(we dont need to play 21 questions, the point of the profiler is to avoid that)

[wary creek]

i assume the way to test it on my higher end pc is to run some kind of VM?

[storm patio]

lobotomize your pc

[wary creek]

because while i wish i had access to that device, it's quite inconvenient and time consuming to get access to it

[boreal river]

Just keep in mind to use Object Pooling when you want to instantiate game objects like many many game objects instead of instantiating and destroying all the time recycle your objects and when needed use them just by getting them from the pool.

thats also saves performance

[storm patio]

let's not make random assumptions here

[wary creek]

... yes i'm aware of object pooling, i used it in my first ever project

[balmy kettle]

that's potentially one way to simulate a lower-end pc

[wary creek]

hmmm though i dont think you can simulate gpu usage very well with vms - at least that's what i've read

probably just buying a second hand laptop could work out?

[latent meadow]

depends on if you have a second GPU for true passthrough, then you can even 'nerf it' to simulate slower GPUs.. well, on Linux. i forget if you can do that on windows

[wary creek]

nah unfortunately not, i'll go for a laptop then since i can also just use that as a server for when i'm not using it for performance testing

[latent meadow]

one thing.. you Might. the modern CPUs have a GPU on them..

[balmy kettle]

that's not necessarily true of all CPUs

[wary creek]

yeah my cpu definitely doesn't have an integrated gpu

[latent meadow]

my experience is only Intel, so i did make a broad statement without knowledge

[balmy kettle]

AMD typically doesn't have integrated gpu for their standard desktop processors unless you specifically seek out the ones that do

[copper gust]

some intel ones don't

[abstract umbra]

both intel and amd have versions with and without integrated graphics, what are you talking about

[wary creek]

yeah just ordered a cheapo laptop, lets see if i can recreate it there

i mean, the key words here are "typically" and "some" lol

[warped vector]

What's yall favourite tweening asset?

[potent geyser]

PrimeTween is my current go to.

[warped vector]

I have been using DoTween for ages but I was thinking I could try something new

[potent geyser]

However, if you're going to be using it for punching/spring effects, then you need to get the All-In-One Springkit.

[warped vector]

I use it mostly for UI animations

I'll try PrimeTween, ty

[near wigeon]

& their doc is absolute garbage. def go with PrimeTween

[warped vector]

I have noticed

Mostly just figured it out by trial&error

[warped vector]

Huh, the UI anchor/pivot system just clicked in for my brain

I can't believe it, I struggled with it for so long

I guess it's because I screwed around with making websites and learned about responsible layouts there

[copper gust]

youll probably like ui toolkit 😛

[thin rover]

i cant install the editor

[balmy kettle]

!install

[vagrant root]

When Unity fails to install checklist

• Make sure you have enough space including on C: drive.
• Check that it's not being blocked by antivirus/security programs.
• Look through the logs for a real reason why the setup fails they are pinned [here](#💻┃unity-talk message).

If you still have issues, perform a clean install in another location:

• Install the Hub and Unity in a non-system drive or a clean new folder in the root of C: drive.
• Failing that use the recovery Refresh option or reinstall OS entirely then repeat the previous step.

[thin rover]

i alredy did all that --_--

[balmy kettle]

what did the logs say

[open pine]

Hey guys, im new here, where can i ask for help?

[potent geyser]

This entire server, pick the topic from the channel directory.

[winter matrix]

is there any easier whay to make 3d models without blender or AI

[stuck flower]

Pay someone

[winter matrix]

how much is it like for a pack?

[stuck flower]

Check the asset store

[winter matrix]

I want them custom made, do i just find people?

[copper gust]

custom made is a good amount of money

[stuck flower]

Then you'll need to hire someone

• Good
• Fast
• Cheap

Pick two.

[winter matrix]

How much do people want

[copper gust]

a living wage

[stuck flower]

Ask em

[winter matrix]

How long does it take to make myself

[copper gust]

how long does it take for you to run to a house

[stuck flower]

How long is a piece of string

[winter matrix]

not very good advice, Just wondering how long it takes to learn 3D modeling

[copper gust]

thats fantastic advice

whats your answer to the string question

[winter matrix]

I have no answer because its a non sequitur answer

[stuck flower]

Again, how long is a piece of string

You're asking an unbounded, vague question that's impossible to answer, so I'm asking an unbounded vague question that's impossible to answer

[winter matrix]

I'm just wondering the average time to do it

[copper gust]

there is no average

[stuck flower]

What's the average length of a piece of string

[spare cobalt]

Can anyone explain how to use this code? It's not working for me. I bought 2 assets before trying.

[modest meteor]

depends on the person. and what style you want to do (like low poly, realistic)

[copper gust]

and anything close would depend on what your making

[winter matrix]

well low poly while im starting

[copper gust]

some amount of time

[stuck flower]

You should just be able to enter that code at checkout

[copper gust]

something like this won't take too long

[stuck flower]

How about you just start

Why does it matter how long it takes

It will take as long as it does

[spare cobalt]

I tried but it doesn't work. I bought:

• an asset pack
• the Quick Start bundle

[winter matrix]

Ok i dont know where to start, I dont know any good channels or courses i can learn

[copper gust]

blender server is probably good for that

[stuck flower]

So then ask that question. Why would knowing "how long" help you get started

[winter matrix]

ok thanks

[stuck flower]

!blender

[vagrant root]

A supportive community for Blender artists of all levels. Share your work, ask for help, and learn from others! https://discord.com/invite/blender

[stuck flower]

"How long does it take to learn" is a pointless question. It assumes that learning is something you get "done" with and then go on to something that isn't learning

and that's just not how anything works

[winter matrix]

ok

[fervent carbon]

how do ppl get commisions as a composer? i find it very hard.

[junior chasm]

unity uses temp job allocator in font asset creator and for slower higher quality methods that make tool inconsistent, crashing or even creating incorrect font atlas or glyph data

[inland river]

Be excellent, better than all the other underemployed composers; then you just have to know people who need composers and make them notice you.

[novel venture]

guys, stupid question. is better to assaign components in the editor or to use transfrom.find ? i think it has a time complexity of o(N) where N are all the components of the GamneObj right?

[copper gust]

There is 0 reason to ever use Find

yes it is better to assign via inspector

[stuck flower]

You should never use Find. It is always avoidable.

[copper gust]

but there are many worse ways that are still better than find 😄

[storm patio]

well it's definitely not O(n) over components

Find works on GOs, not components

(but as above, you don't really need to use it)

[novel venture]

k because im watching a series where the creator use it a lot

[inland river]

unfollow that creator immediately

[storm patio]

it's something easy to teach/show

[copper gust]

sorry to hear that

[storm patio]

that doesn't necessarily overlap with good practice

[novel venture]

sorry, so it's n * m right?

[novel venture]

ahahah, but he made a good weapon system

[stuck flower]

Then you should probably watch someone else

[storm patio]

probably not

[abstract umbra]

what if there is something in the scene that the player which is instantiated should have a reference to?

[inland river]

that doesn't matter in any way, amortized real cost is the only relevant metric and if you profile .Find() vs other methods or if you just realize its a string API that should tell your everything you need to know why using it is terrible

[stuck flower]

Then the thing instantiating the object should set that variable after spawning it

[abstract umbra]

how is that thing instantiating is supposed to know the reference to it without finding it ?

[limpid pivot]

I have a dumb question too
Let’s say you make an asset of prefab on a specific folder

Can I make a unitypackage that checks it that prefab exist, if it does, replaces with a new version. If not, nothing happens?

Basically I want make sure the person has the original file to update to new one instead of just adding the newer version

[storm patio]

you would have a reference to begin with

[abstract umbra]

but it doesnt have it

[stuck flower]

By dragging it in. Or, if both objects are prefabs, you'd store one when you spawn it, and pass it to the other when you spawn that

[stuck flower]

You are the one writing the code

you can make it have it

[storm patio]

why wouldn't it have it

[novel venture]

yes indeed he does the find with strings that are not inside constants, so he just gets one comma wrong and finds nothing

[abstract umbra]

the thing instantiating a player also doesnt exist in a scene because it exist only in the main menu scene and not getting destroyed when scene changes

[copper gust]

for scene <-> scene stuff ideally you'd probably have the thing in the upcoming scene reach out to a singleton on it's awake

[abstract umbra]

so no, cannot drag the other object

[stuck flower]

Something in the scene is going to know the object, or be the thing that spawns the object. You can chain those around.

[gray frigate]

whoever creates the prefab is responsible for giving it the references it needs

[storm patio]

if you're curious, probably O(n + mk) for an n-long string, m gameobjects (at each level), k segments of the target string.

but don't forget, big O is just how it scales. there's way higher overhead in Find

[stuck flower]

If it's a singleton, you probably want all the other objects to reach up to the singleton to get what it needs, rather than the singleton reaching down to pass data to lower objects

Like, you probably wouldn't have your DDOL Singleton actually spawn the player. You'd have an object in the scene query the singleton for which prefab to use, then spawn it on Start in the scene it's included in

[abstract umbra]

well, anything in the scene will know it but the script that comes from another scene will not have a direct dragged reference to anything in this scene, so i dont see how you can do it without find

[stuck flower]

Your DDOL object shouldn't reference other objects at all.

It should hold only asset references

Things in the scene can reach it from anywhere, so why would it need to access them

[storm patio]

@abstract umbra
to have a reference, both objects exist at the same time.
either a) both were created on scene load, in which case you can use serialized references directly,
or b), one is instantiated during the other's lifecycle, in which whatever triggers the instantiation must also have a reference to the target, leading back to the same chain of logic.

you don't need Find.

excluding assets, because that's much simpler

[copper gust]

(you missed c which is the scene x scene stuff)

[glossy topaz]

Yo do u man use damageable interface or do u make a script like i did (called it entity and it has damage method) and have damageable things inherit from that script

[storm patio]

i don't think that's a separate case

i think that's b

[copper gust]

I think it's seperate in the sense that you'd need some sort of singleton or such to middleman the interaction

[storm patio]

they're effectively the same idea just realized in different ways

[abstract umbra]

game begins from the main menu scene where the player doesnt exist. GameManager DDoL. Game begins and GameManager instantiates a player in Scene2. Scene2 has cameras objects and cameras must be configured to follow the player. How can get the reference to the cameras without Find ?

[storm patio]

you need something bridging the gap in B as well

[glossy topaz]

So no one is bettr than the other?

[stuck flower]

GameManager should not be instantiating anything. It's a DDOL, it doesn't know what scene it's in

[storm patio]

you generally just don't have "A is better than B" for most stuff

[glossy topaz]

Ty

[storm patio]

they have their ups and downs

[storm patio]

if the cameras need to be configured to follow the player, why is the player not with the cameras

[abstract umbra]

well, my gamemanager or any manager script does know which scene it is, but it doesnt matter lol. Ok who should be instantiating the player then?

[copper gust]

Something on the Cameras listens to an event the gamemanager raises when the player has been spawned

[stuck flower]

There should be an object in Scene2 that queries GameManager for what it's supposed to spawn, that already has a reference to everything that needs to know about the player. It spawns in the object and sets the references.

[storm patio]

a) the player and camera are instantiated together
b) the player and camera both exist in the level scene
c) the player and camera both exist in a persistent scene

or if you absolutely want to separate those 2 things, notify the gamemanager, sure

[abstract umbra]

cameras should not be instantiated, i have already learned that the hard way

[copper gust]

nothing wrong with doing that

[storm patio]

fun fact cameras are instantiated when you load scenes containing cameras

[copper gust]

aside from the wrongs you must have been doing

(respectfully)

[novel venture]

I saw on the internet, and they say it is O(n) because find only sees direct children

[stuck flower]

Find can be avoided entirely by having a proper hierarchy of ownership and ensuring one-way data access as much as possible. You can use Find to rectify spaghetti code, but the solution is usually to just not use spaghetti in the first place

[storm patio]

that's wrong

Find("a/b") goes through a then b

[copper gust]

But also if we are being practical FindObjectsByType<T> is fine in a lot of cases, especially in prototyping. It's something that is still far better than Find

[novel venture]

are you also looking in the sub-children?

[storm patio]

they can, yes

also this is in the case of Transform.Find

GameObject.Find goes through all gameobjects

[novel venture]

in the scene?

[copper gust]

in the scenes iirc

[storm patio]

in all loaded scenes, probably

[novel venture]

holly shit

[gray frigate]

performance considerations inside, Find is extremely brittle

[copper gust]

yeah man it sucks !

theres nothing good about it

[storm patio]

but big O doesn't matter until you have 1000s of objects

the overhead of Find itself is much slower than the scaling in reasonable cases

[gray frigate]

i try not to fixate too much on those costs; the real problem is that it's prone to exploding in your face

O(doesn't work)

😉

[storm patio]

haha magic strings go NullReferenceException

[storm patio]

O(n) over the size of the stack 😆

[novel venture]

so it is possible to practice when there are few objects, but at this point do you make a singleton? so you have there all the reference you nead right?

[novel venture]

ahhahahahahahah

[storm patio]

it's "possible" no matter how many objects you have. it's also not good no matter how many objects you have

[novel venture]

ok so is crap anyways

[storm patio]

because of the magic string and indirection, yes

[novel venture]

k thx guys

[abstract umbra]

so basically the only reason not to use Find is performance ?

[storm patio]

no

because of the magic string and indirection, yes
literally just said it

[sly lake]

It's a good feature for editor scripts

[copper gust]

not Find()

[stuck flower]

• Performance
• Tying functionality to object names which are often changed for organizational purposes
• Magic Strings which you'll need to remember to go change if you rename something
• Obfuscation of source of errors. Is the object renamed, destroyed, or in a different scene? Can't know because Find will just return null in all such cases

[copper gust]

• Even if you don't care about performance FindObjectsByType exists which does the same thing but avoids the other 2.5 points

[abstract umbra]

Find or FindObjectsByType have pretty much the same functionality, jsut the second is more precise. And i have a hard time understanding you all but the only way i see to avoid them is to use event system, objects that are already in the scene just trigger events and the object that comes from a prevous scene to this scene listens to it and gets the references, is that right ?

not saying youre wrong, i probably dont have enough experience

[stuck flower]

I feel like I've very adequately explained how to solve your hypothetical

You just for whatever reason don't want to do it

[copper gust]

they aren't saying otherwise

[stuck flower]

No event system needed

Just have things in the scene ask the DDOLs what to spawn, instead of having the DDOLs spawn things when a scene starts (which would require events since that's how you'd be able to tell a scene has changed on a DDOL)

[abstract umbra]

was a bit hard to read when 3 people were simultaneously writing

[plain dagger]

Id go the manual dep management route myself too

[abstract umbra]

Just have things in the scene ask the DDOLs what to spawn

you begin your explanation with this but that is the whole point of the question, how can they do it if there is no reference between them?

[copper gust]

Singletons

[plain dagger]

Or have your own systems for loading that handles this all

guess what you dont have to use start/awake only 😮

[stuck flower]

Your DDOLs are singletons. They're defined by being statically accessible from anywhere

[abstract umbra]

ok, thank you, understood

[gray frigate]

i mean, stuff punted into DontDestroyOnLoad doesn't have to be a singleton. it's just a common use-case.

and if a certain type is a singleton, then you can unambiguously locate it (it would not be a singleton if you had more than one instance)

if it isn't a singleton, then you need some extra context to find the correct instance

(e.g., when spawning players in a team-based game, you need to tell each player which team they're on – you can't just find the right team on your own!)

[plain dagger]

If a player was spawned then went looking via a singleton for this data then id say thats poor design

should be the other way around and is often when i see singleton static refs be abused

[lapis gate]

yeah no reason to ever use find

GetComponent and friends is the most node searching you should be doing

[shadow summit]

hi everyone. I'm changing the shader from urp/2d/sprite-lit-default -> urp/lit, and this material is used for spriterender, but it only works for the back face. Is there a way to fix this?\

[lapis gate]

render face -> both (or front)

[shadow summit]

No. If I put front there, it just disappears, and if I put both, it appears but doesn't respond to the 3d light, which is what it was supposed to do

[lapis gate]

What type of geometry is thsi

[inland apex]

How do I mirror a shape

[lapis gate]

If you're just sticking lit into spriteshader you're probably going to run into more problems

[inland apex]

Pls tell me

[shadow summit]

gameobject and component spriterenderer

[lapis gate]

ya probably need to make a custom spriterender shader if you want the lighting

[inland apex]

May you help me now?

[lapis gate]

blender

[inland apex]

No unity

[shadow summit]

So this is the only option? I thought the problem was with the normal map, and I thought it might be possible to move it forward so that the front is touched, but I might be talking nonsense right now

[gray dirge]

blender

[lapis gate]

I'm surprised it even renders by pluggin lit directly into it

[gray dirge]

Unity is no modeling software. What kind of shape is it? Like a single 3D model or something that you build from smaller models?

[inland apex]

3d

I just need my right hand to be a left hand

[shadow summit]

Okay, I'll keep thinking, thanks.

[lapis gate]

I've made a custom 3D sprite render shader a while back and had to do a lot of extra work, but nowadays it may be possible to do it easily in the shader graph

[gray dirge]

Have you tried using negative scale?

[inland apex]

No

[gray dirge]

I don't know if that could introduce some other problems but it should mirror the object. I thought at first it would also mix back and front faces but it doesn't seem to do that (I'm pretty sure the winding order should flip too but it looks like unity have a special handling for that)

[inland apex]

@gray dirge it worked

[edgy mica]

I have an question

[worldly cave]

!ask

[vagrant root]

:thinking: Asking Questions

:mag: Search the internet for your question!
:book: Use the API Scripting Reference and User Manual and this troubleshooting site for commonly posted issues.
:wrench: Attempt to debug your issue.
:thought_balloon: Find an appropriate channel by reading the name and description in #🔎┃find-a-channel
:grey_question: And don't ask to ask, ask a full question illustrating with screenshots if needed.

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[balmy sundial]

So I'm kind of confused about getting the angle between two disconnected vectors and how that works.

I'm working through this website where you can move around two vectors and it currently calculated the reflex angle of them in the top right: https://pothonprogramming.github.io/content/vector-math/vector-math.html

I know to get the acute or obtuse angle, you just subtract the reflex angle from 360 degrees (the degrees of a full circle).

This is an example of two vectors that are connected by their endpoints, and I'm able to conceptualize the angle between them just fine.

But if two vectors were disconnected in an orientation like this:

I don't understand like how there could be an angle between them if that makes sense

[gray frigate]

A vector, on its own, does not have an "endpoint"

moving a vector around in this demo has no effect on the vector's direction or magnitude

you're just changing where you're visualizing it

of course, in a game, you might have something like this

Vector3 pos = player.transform.position;
Vector3 hit = // do a raycast here
Vector3 delta = hit - pos;

[plain dagger]

[vivid cedar]

To get an angle you need 3 points, not just two

[gray frigate]

this is a bad example because the raycast hit point will probably change as you move around :p

but, ignoring that, delta won't change as you move

[balmy sundial]

I see, yeah. Idk I'm just really confused on how to find angles of vectors because when I researched it, the whole idea of it never really made sense to me.

[gray frigate]

pos corresponds to the dot, and hit corresponds to the head of the arrow

[balmy sundial]

So essentially, if I have a player that represented as a vector and an enemy, object, tree in my game, etc. that's also represented as a vector, is there a way to get an angle between them?

[gray frigate]

what does this vector mean?

A common source of confusion is how we use Vector3 to represent two completely unrelated things:

• points in space
• directions

[vivid cedar]

Vector3.SignedAngle

[balmy sundial]

I just came from geometry learning about angles and I know there you need either a 3 positions with the same endpoint, position intersection, etc. to have those form angles. But I'm not sure how that applies here lol

[vivid cedar]

the key is knowing what each vector actually is

[gray frigate]

Vector3 whatever = new Vector3(3, 0, 0);

This could be a point in space or a direction + magnitude

[vivid cedar]

When you say "a player represented as a vector" you're almost certtainly talking about a position

[balmy sundial]

A position, yeah. Maybe that's where I'm tripping up

[gray frigate]

and taking the angle between two positions doesn't make sense 😉

now, taking the angle between two directions makes plenty of sense

[vivid cedar]

Draw the picture. Label the positions, and create vectors between them. For example:
We have positions O, P, and Q here and vectors OP and OQ

You can find the angle betwen vectors OP and OQ here, two vectors that were constructed from three positions

[gray frigate]

e.g.

[balmy sundial]

Let's see

I can also make some pics too

[gray frigate]

suppose the player is the blue point and the enemy is the red point

[balmy sundial]

Give me a sec

[vivid cedar]

so yeah - draw a picture

identify the positions

and create the vectors as needed

[balmy sundial]

Deal

[gray frigate]

I would not say there is an "angle" between those two positions. However, if I pick a third point, I can now construct vectors pointing to the player + enemy

[vivid cedar]

then use Vector3. SignedAngle or Vector3.Angle as necessary to calculate the angle

[gray frigate]

and I can indeed find an angle between those vectors

[gray frigate]

it's like asking how far the gas station is

how far from what? 😉

[gray frigate]

the punchline is that it does not matter whatsoever where those points are; you've already got two vectors

now, if you only had two points, instead of two vectors, you'd be in trouble

[balmy sundial]

I think I see what you mean

This is a sketch I have of like a basic an angle between points and I'm trying to "see" the vectors from them from what was said

[balmy sundial]

I know this is like a basic geometric understanding of angles, but I can create vectors as needed from this somehow?

I could also be misunderstanding lol

[gray frigate]

it's hard to go from this to that demo you showed because, here, moving the player obviously changes the vectors to both the stop sign and the shrub

you can't move the player + the shrub together without messing with the vector to the stop sign

A closer example would be two players looking at different objects

you can find vectors from each player to their target object, and you can indeed then take the angle between them

[balmy sundial]

Ooh interesting, so let's say that these are just still objects and nothing is moving

[vivid cedar]

yep - so like - the vector from the player to the stop sign is just (stopSign.position - player.position)

[balmy sundial]

Okay, got it that's what I figured

Okay, so the vectors would be the distance from the player to the stop sign or bush. That made it click

[gray frigate]

notably, moving the stop sign and the player by the same amount (which is like sliding one of those two arrows around in the demo) would have no effect

since you subtract one point from the other

(X + 10) - (Y + 10) is just X - Y

[gray frigate]

I often call these "positions" and "displacements"/"deltas" to keep them separate

(i use "displacement" or "delta" if I care about the magnitude and "direction" if I don't)

[balmy sundial]

If I'm understanding this properly, then that would be mean the displacement from the player, sign, shrub, visualized with the lines in the image (these vectors) are forming an angle like in the diagram?

I'm sorry if I'm yapping up a storm, this is the first time I'm learning about all of this stuff lol

[balmy sundial]

So that angle there is in reality an angle between two vectors starting from the player and that's essentially how this stuff works?

[vivid cedar]

Yes there's an angle between (the displacement from the player to the sign) and (the displacement from the player to the shrub)

[balmy sundial]

Right

Okay, that literally made it click thank you

Because holy frick, I was stuck on that for a good week lol. Everything I read felt so complicated about the topic

[vivid cedar]

Vector3.Angle will give you the smaller angle between those.

Vector3.SignedAngle will let you get either the smaller angle or the larger one depending on which direction you plug in as the axis (into the paper, or out of the paper)

[balmy sundial]

Oooh fascinating

[gray frigate]

you need a third vector to figure out which way is which, ye

[balmy sundial]

So it sounds like signed angle would be better.. then?

I think

maybe lol

[gray frigate]

If you care about which way you're turning.

If you just care about the angular distance, then no

[vivid cedar]

often, yes. Depends on the context

[balmy sundial]

Got it

I remember you guys were saying something about how moving the player, bush, etc.'s position will mess with these vectors?

Like a little bit earlier

[gray frigate]

If you move the player, then the distance and direction to the other objects changes.

[balmy sundial]

Naturally yeah

That makes sense

[gray frigate]

since the directions are changing, the angle will change

[balmy sundial]

Okay yeah, that makes sense

Because if I edit the diagram and move some guys around like this:

[gray frigate]

(of course, you could move away from both objects in just the right way to preserve the angle)

[marble widget]

can someone direct me to a good way to learn coding in unity?

any sites

yt channels

im alright at using the ui and stuff but coding i am horrible at

[stuck flower]

!learn

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[stuck flower]

Or the courses pinned in #💻┃code-beginner

[marble widget]

i love you

thansk

[balmy sundial]

My coordinates are goofy but here we go lol

Yeah, if I moved the player or objects around, then the angle and displacement to the vectors would 100% change

This is finally making sense

I also read something called normalization

[plain dagger]

learning these basics about vectors really helps in the long run

[balmy sundial]

And that's when you make a vector have a length of 1? I was a bit confused on that as well

[balmy sundial]

Oooh yeah, that's why I'm trying to struggle through this now lol

[plain dagger]

Sometimes we need a vector to have a length of one to keep things consistent

e.g.

Vector3 dir = (target - me).Normalized();

[balmy sundial]

When people say that vectors have "length" that always puzzled my mind too. Does length refer to the distance part from say the player to the bush? Like a vector would have a smaller length if the player was really close to the bush, and have a bigger length if the player was really far away from the bush?

[marble widget]

yo im looking at them this is awesome tysm

[vivid cedar]

yes, the distance from the player to the bush in this example is the length of that vector PB (P = player, B = bush)

[balmy sundial]

Got it, sweet

[plain dagger]

Unity doc page does explain this: https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Vector3-magnitude.html

[balmy sundial]

So wait if I normalize the vector from the player to the bush, wouldn't that just make the player and bush really close to eachother? I know you guys said normalization is really useful, but it's a bit hard to see.

[vivid cedar]

normalizing the vector doesn't move any objects

it just modifies the vector

[gray frigate]

sometimes, you do not care about distances, only directions

angles do not depend on distances, for example

[balmy sundial]

They don't, like in my example above

[gray frigate]

if you want to fire a rocket at the bush, the rocket should not go faster if you're far away from the bush

[balmy sundial]

Which makes sens

[gray frigate]

therefore, you should ignore the magnitude of the vector

[plain dagger]

Vector3 dir = (target - me).Normalized();
var bullet = CreateNewBullet();
bullet.Fire(dir * power); //yay this is consistent!

[gray frigate]

rocket.linearVelocity = (targetPos - playerPos).normalized * 10;

jinx :p

[plain dagger]

🧠

[balmy sundial]

Oooh wait, I think that clicked

Okay so essentially normalization just gives you the direction part of a vector without changing the vector itself, right?

[gray frigate]

i would say it does change the vector!

it makes it magnitude exactly 1

the direction of the vector doesn't change

[balmy sundial]

Ah okay, I think this makes sense

I can sketch this out, I think I see what you guys mean

[plain dagger]

make vector nice, makes maths after easy

make logic worky well

[balmy sundial]

It would look something like this if I get this properly?

[gray frigate]

indeed

notice how the vector no longer reaches all the way to the bush

[balmy sundial]

Ahh okay

[gray frigate]

since its magnitude went down

[balmy sundial]

Yeah

It doesn't reach all of the way

But it retains the same angle

Because angles are independent of direction

I'll have to find use cases of normalization because it feels a bit esoteric lol.

[plain dagger]

we can derive an angle but its not an angle

its a direction

[gray frigate]

no, angles are independent of distance

angles absolutely care about direction!

[balmy sundial]

Distance, my bad

You're right

[gray frigate]

(god i can't spell "direction" to save my life today)

[balmy sundial]

A bit confused on that lol. So that means an angle won't be created if I normalize a vector starting from the same starting point of another vector (startin gpoint being the player)?

[gray frigate]

i think rob's point is a bit confusing here

the vector itself does not "retain an angle"

[balmy sundial]

My bad lol it's my brain

[gray frigate]

however, the angle between the two vectors doesn't change

[balmy sundial]

Right

[plain dagger]

Yes sorry, a vector is not an angle but we can calculate an angle from one

[balmy sundial]

Yeah that's what I figured lol

[balmy sundial]

Ye, like above with two vectors. I'm following

[plain dagger]

atan2 my beloved ❤️

[gray frigate]

i haven't used trig functions in a while :p

[balmy sundial]

Gotcha

So if get this properly

[signal ingot]

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[balmy sundial]

Yooo

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[balmy sundial]

I feel like I finally understand this concept now

[stuck flower]

If you have 1400 to burn on an asset flip, does it matter

[balmy sundial]

At least the basics of how angles work now with vectors

[worldly cave]

The question is what are you hoping to accomplish doing this...

[signal ingot]

Where can i ask help ?

[worldly cave]

!ask

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[balmy sundial]

I saw other sources talking about stuff like Sin, Cos, Tan, trig and I was "Dang, that's so complicated right now" lol

I just learned what angles were the other day and I kind of want to play around with just that

[signal ingot]

ty

[balmy sundial]

I also have a weird idea I want to share that I'm curious is possible after figuring this out lol

[signal ingot]

I am new to unity and i am trying to create a horror styled game with low quality style PSP but i have some bug with the walk animation

he is like in the floor

[plain dagger]

If its only when animation is playing then the model has a shit origin. I think unity can fix it for you use the root transform y baking properties on the anim/model importer.

[signal ingot]

yes but i changed it 3 Times and with ai i tested like 20 Scripts who didn't work

[plain dagger]

ai scripts arent needed. if the model is set to be a humanoid you can apply these fixes very easily

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/Manual/ConfiguringtheAvatar.html

[near wigeon]

^^ bake the Y

[signal ingot]

Thanks ( I think that the link is not working )

[plain dagger]

but ai or something

[plain dagger]

it does if read by human eyes

[near wigeon]

link working fine

also this if needed https://learn.unity.com/tutorial/import-animation?version=6.0

[cerulean lion]

i need some arabic man

[feral marsh]

Who can help me create my game
I really need help

[near wigeon]

if you have a specific problem ask it

[ruby nymph]

Probably the completely wrong place to ask but Im a junior 3D modeller looking to get some more experience. Where are some good places to get my foot in the door?

[gusty abyss]

Hang out on Reddit and stay active. Browse indie game Discord servers, especially Visual Novel ones

Draw them some 3d models and ask their feedbacks etc.

[ruby nymph]

Amazing thank you! I tried creating my own game but cant grasp the programming of it all so i just wanna take a step back

[gusty abyss]

Don’t expect to create a perfect game right away. You need to keep creating and working on projects to improve.

[ruby nymph]

I knew this from the start. Before game dev I was a web developer. But game dev just doesnt seem to be my kind of touch

[gusty abyss]

Sure, if you feel more comfortable working in 3D, by all means go ahead 🙂

[worldly cave]

Foot in the door of anything specific?

Like freelancer work or just generaly connecting with other modelers

[ruby nymph]

Bit of both but with my current set of skills I dont expect to be getting paid just yet

[worldly cave]

Find a niche

Thats my tip

I started out modelling by working with csgo mapmakers

Be willing to work for free at the start, find something you are interested in and help out

It almost always leads to connections, experience and paid work down the line

[ruby nymph]

To be completely honest im not looking to get into modelling for the money. I just wanna see my work out there getting used. Currently a lot of it just sits on my computer collecting dust

Finding people who wanna take on is the part im finding trouble with

[slow dirge]

Check the forums for people that might be looking for cheap/free models/modelers.

!collab

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[ruby nymph]

Mb

[worldly cave]

same thing applies then

[worldly cave]

Isnt there a shortcut that lets you have a "follow camera" inside of the scene view?

im trying to look it up but im not seeing anything... i feel like im losing my mind here

istg that was a thing

[balmy kettle]

wdym by "follow camera" here? like make your in-scene camera match the scene view? because i think that's ctrl shift f with the camera selected

[worldly cave]

i meant like lock onto the selected object

and now that im saying this i feel as if i would have had better luck googling "follow object"

[balmy kettle]

shift f

i think double tapping f should work too

[worldly cave]

yeah i just found it lol

thanks

i knew i wasnt insane

[tiny yarrow]

so is this channel just for genral talk about unity or about games

[latent meadow]

Unity

[worldly cave]

its not really a general channel

altough some would disagree

its more so for general questions regarding unity

something that doesnt fit into other channels

[latent meadow]

"Non-programming Unity development topics & questions not covered by specific channels. Prolonged discussions and game design questions should be threaded."

[worldly cave]

but its not an "off topic" by any means as well

[tiny yarrow]

this discord servers weird im not used to no genral chat

[worldly cave]

its unusual yes but think of it more as a large help forum rather than a social space

altough people do still talk and socialize here, its mostly within confines of a relevant topic or discussion

[tiny yarrow]

so if i have a proplem(i dont have a proplem) with shadows not looking right do i type here or script help?

[worldly cave]

!ask

[vagrant root]

:thinking: Asking Questions

:mag: Search the internet for your question!
:book: Use the API Scripting Reference and User Manual and this troubleshooting site for commonly posted issues.
:wrench: Attempt to debug your issue.
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[worldly cave]

you find the relevant channel in #🔎┃find-a-channel

or ig id:browse

[tiny yarrow]

so unity talk

[worldly cave]

no

#1390346776804069396

[tiny yarrow]

oh okay

[slow dirge]

Shadows is specifically related to #1390346776804069396

[worldly cave]

but if youre unsure ask here and someone will probably redirect you

just make an attempt to find the channel at least

[inland apex]

If I need to add properties to a script how would I do so

[gray frigate]

Unity will display fields in the inspector if they can be serialized

https://unity.huh.how/serialization/serializing-a-field-1

[dull mica]

are liminal games still a thing

[coarse shore]

the store is bugged

the page for this goes to 20$ incorrectly

90% off

[lost garnet]

I have a problem with DOTween.
I think it is dependent on Time.realTimeSinceStartup instead of unscaledDeltaTime(which I want).

I use DOTween.defalutTimeScalIndependent = true;

In the Awake

[coarse shore]

I think they fixed the issue now

price is back to normal on the storepage when you visit

[violet thunder]

How is it acting different from what you expect?

Wouldn't those properties give the same results anyway when you accumulate unscaledDeltaTime vs. read realTimeSinceStartup?

Or are you seeing some imprecision on long sessions?

[lost garnet]

I am logging time and when I pause the editor, the console stops but the moment i unpause the editor, all the logs are printed at once depending on how long the editor was paused. Weird

[violet thunder]

Maybe your console window just doesn't repaint

Until unity forces it to refresh on unpause

[lost garnet]

Maybe that's a thing but will check that through async later.

[cyan lion]

when baking light in unity we have few tabs like scene, and adaptive probe volumes. does clicking on them change how the light is baked. for eg scene is for normal enlighten bake, apv is for apv. also i am unable to get good quality lighting with apv. i got few good bakes before but they are not consistent, perhaps i forgot to check certain options other times. also apv seems to ruin the normal map data. i have seen a work around for it. in volumr under adaptive probe volume options. also am i supposed to use hdrp and apv together or is it meant just for urp?

'i am really frustrated by unitys lighting systems

[latent meadow]

#1390346776804069396

[lost garnet]

Or maybe switch into Primetween. It seems more controllable ig.

It might be a lil pain cuz I have moved kinda far but I can do that.

[granite harness]

Hi everyone

[latent meadow]

!collab

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[granite harness]

Thank you

[lost garnet]

I think it is something like in cookie clicker when you are back, the time is converted into credits.

But I want to axt normal doesn't teleport time

[pastel onyx]

Hey guys

I made the devlog video finally

[violet thunder]

Missing a lot of context here. If you have a code issue post it in a code channel and show the code ofc

[pastel onyx]

It's in my https://discord.com/channels/489222168727519232/1490848107729260624

[lost garnet]

I think it is more like a DOTween related thing.
this is the debug example that I am using.

    {
        DOTween.defaultTimeScaleIndependent = true;
        DOTween.defaultUpdateType = UpdateType.Normal;

        DOTween.To(() => 0f, (value )=> {
            Debug.Log(value);
        }, 1000f, 1000f).Play();
    }

whe i remove this line DOTween.defaultTimeScaleIndependent = true;

everything works fine except it is now dependent on deltaTime instead of unscaleDeltaTime

I want the unscaledDeltaTime

[sweet tartan]

I had a similar-sounding situation and unscaledDeltaTime could be a huge value (minutes) because it accumulated all the time Unity was paused while the ad was active. I ended up writing a helper class that capped unscaledDeltaTime on the frame the app came back into focus

[dawn lily]

Hi Guys! I am a 15 year old developer and i want to seek some advice for publishing a npc/enemy ai system on the asset store

[latent meadow]

you'd need to be 18+. perhaps talk to your parents

[dawn lily]

Right now it includes the following features :-

1)Full AI state machine: Idle, Patrol, Alert, Chase, Search, Return
2)Vision system (FOV, range, line-of-sight raycast)
3)Hearing system with external sound triggers
4)Optimized detection (interval-based, not per frame)
5)Patrol system with waypoints (Loop, PingPong, Random)
6)Idle system with random wait times
7)Alert delay with player-facing behavior
8)Chase system with dynamic tracking and catch distance
9)Search system using last known position + random search points
10)Smooth return to patrol
11)Animator integration (speed, alert, chase, triggers)
12)Audio system (alert, chase loop, lost sounds)
13)Dialogue system with state-based lines + cooldown + UI
14)UnityEvents (player detected, lost, caught, waypoint reached)
15)Full NavMeshAgent integration
16)Runtime API (force states, set player, update waypoints)
17)Debug gizmos (vision cone, hearing radius, patrol path, state label)
18)Performance optimized (coroutines, cached hashes)
19)Includes dialogue UI system (TextMeshPro, fade, state-based colors)

I wanna ask you guys what could be the price of this on the asset store

[dawn lily]

I know my parents handle all of that stuff , I just like to make projects on Unity

[lost garnet]

I want to use it because If I had to use animations for UI in while the game is pause (timeScale is 0) then it won't apear to updating at all.

[latent meadow]

you can make a #1180170818983051344 show how you made it, what it does, and ask people There what they might consider paying for it

[dawn lily]

Thanks!

Tho if you were a customer what would you pay...free or what?

[latent meadow]

this is not the room for market research.

[dawn lily]

Ohh

I am sorry .

[latent meadow]

go show your product in a #1180170818983051344 and ask there

[dawn lily]

Alr!

[safe garden]

hey guys I'm just going in and fixing some pivots on props - is there a way to center the pivot inside a prefab back to the prop itself? or would you have to create a new gameobject and then replace the original prefab?

[pearl oyster]

Not 100% sure what you mean but you can just set the local position of the objects to 0, 0, 0

[safe garden]

ahh cool ty

[sacred moon]

Hey guys I’m new coding and entirely game development, so could u suggest a good YouTube channel?

[solar slate]

Plain

i used maths for world generator, although it's not good...

idk why

something's off

[sacred moon]

Thank you

[latent meadow]

check the pinned messages in #💻┃code-beginner

[lost garnet]

Are you kidding me.....?

For the past few hours, I have been trying to switch into Primetween and I finally managed to do it now and IT HAS THE EXACT SAME ISSUE.

[rare cliff]

I build my game, and then for testing purposes, I use a mobile device; however, it is lagging. I have the Fusion Public Cloud with support for 100 concurrent users—so why is it lagging? What is the problem?

[potent geyser]

How can anyone even answer that?

You can use the profiler to see what kind of bottlenecks you're getting.

[rare cliff]

7 fps

7 fps

why lag??

[sage basin]

The CPU is waiting for the GPU to finish, so presumably there's a lot of expensive graphics

[undone monolith]

In your screenshot, I noticed that all the buildings are being rendered into the scene at the same time

[silent mica]

I would also log Unity's Times to see what the mismatch exactly is. You definitely aren't using real time?

If there's a clear mismatch, I would try to take a peek at the internals of the library.

[graceful wedge]

can anyone help with this? it happens whenever i open unity hub and i did a report and they said itsout of date but i cant update it

[storm patio]

perhaps check logs

!logs

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📝 Logs

Documentation

Editor logs

Windows: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Unity\Editor\Editor.log
MacOS: ~/Library/Logs/Unity/Editor.log
Linux: ~/.config/unity3d/Editor.log

Unity Hub

Windows: %UserProfile%\AppData\Roaming\UnityHub\logs
Mac: ~/Library/Application support/UnityHub/logs
Linux: ~/.config/UnityHub/logs

[storm patio]

they said itsout of date
who said what's out of date exactly?

[lost garnet]

A friend of mine helped me fixed it.
Actually it was about how unity treats deltaTime and unscaledDeltaTime.

When the editor is paused, the deltaTime doesn't get incremented but the unscaledDeltaTime does even if the editor is paused

All I had to do was update the DOTween manually and pass Mathf.Min(Time.maxAllowedTimestep, unscaledDeltaTime) as unscaledDeltaTime parameter

[graceful wedge]

unity. they responded to my report

[silent mica]

Huh, assumed they would behave the same when it comes to this.

[graceful wedge]

what should i show as theres a lot of info

[latent meadow]

did you uninstall the hub, download the newest installer and try to install?

[graceful wedge]

i count figure out how to uninstall

[latent meadow]

a simple google search will explain how to uninstall the hub

[lost garnet]

Me too, and that's why I had to switch into PrimeTween and back into DOTween again (cuz Primetween doesn't support Manual Update afaik) before realizing this lol.

My entire day was wasted today

[latent meadow]

spent, but not wasted.

[graceful wedge]

now that im in i cant open projects because of this

[fickle rapids]

public AudioClip sounds = new Dictionary<string, AudioClip>(); how to fix this code

[storm patio]

what's broken about it

[gray dirge]

I mean you are assigning a Dictionary to an AudioClip but ofc you should always include a description of what is broken (and #💻┃code-beginner might be better channel)

[fickle rapids]

actually i want different names for an audio clip array how is that possible

[storm patio]

let's go continue in #💻┃code-beginner, what are you trying to achieve exactly

[deft granite]

can someone help my friend to do C# script? please friend request me.

[storm patio]

not how this server works, just have your friend ask about whatever they need help with here

https://dontasktoask.com

[deft granite]

i also don't know C#

[deft granite]

ok thanks

what is this site?

[stuck flower]

It's a thing you read

[storm patio]

hence why i'm recommending that your friend gets the help directly

[deft granite]

okay? why theres was texts and that's all?

[storm patio]

i have no idea what you're trying to say

[cunning wigeon]

Hi everyone! I’m looking for some advice or tutorials on achieving this 2D pixel lighting effect.

The video on the left is my goal, and the video on the right is what I’ve managed to create so far. I’ve already experimented with normal maps, stepped lighting, and pixelation shaders, but I’m struggling to recreate that natural "light-spreading" effect along the wood grain seen on the left.

Does anyone know how to make the light interact with the texture's grooves more convincingly, or have any resources to share? Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! (I'm using 2D URP/HLSL)

[lapis gate]

tbh the right looks better ;p

[gray frigate]

the video on the left makes the planks appear very warped

it's like they're half-cylinders

light doesn't bounce off of a flat surface like that

you could recreate that by adjusting your normal map

[vague cairn]

i have zero clue why my ragdolls arms are like this

nevermind i found out why

angular limits

[cunning wigeon]

Thanks! Now that you mention it, the one on the left does look like a log cabin. I’ll try refining the normal map a bit more.

[gray frigate]

ah, that's what it looks like! a log cabin

[open pine]

Hey guys, im trying to make a 2D game with somewhat realistic lighting. But ive stumbled upon one problem: When i set the shadow caster 2d to only cast shadows, the volumetric light from my Spot light 2D just travels through the island, as shown in the left image. When i set the shadow caster 2d to cast shadows and self shadow, the whole island just turns darker. Is there a solution to let some of the light pass through the 2 first blocks or so, and the rest of the light gets blocked by the rest of the island?

[warm solstice]

Is unity down? I'm getting a license error when trying to open my project but u do have an active license

This normally happens when somethings going on at unity I dunno if anyone else is having issues?

[proper cairn]

Made a custom loading screen renderer from layers exported from .psd files, animated with unity timeline extensions, hierarchy resolved with bursted matrix math and rendered with a custom URP render pass (for proper blendmode layer compositing)

[cloud fox]

i highkey want to cry smtimes

i hate 3d

[feral pike]

where can I find the "ml-agents" mascot texture/material?

[livid void]

Afternoon, awesome people!

Context: Im a compulsive organizer trying to optimize folder structure on Unity 6.

Objective: Intuitive reading, efficient project managing & fast work.

Question for the experts: What is the best folder structure in your opinion ?

[storm patio]

there's never a "best"

you can mainly separate it into grouping by feature and grouping by type

and then anything beyond that is highly specific to the project and your own preferences

[stuck flower]

First place I think to put a file, it goes there. Next time I want the file, the first place I'd think of where it'd be is where it is.

[wise yacht]

Actually quite tricky - I have like a scripts folder etc. but I often end up having like "content" folders. For example, I have 1 per character which contains their scriptable object, any custom scripts for them, and their model. All generic stuff goes in the normal like Art/Scripts/Prefab folders but any content-specific bits like levels/players/enemies etc. goes into my content folder.

Currently making a tower defence so I have "Content/Towers" and "Content/Enemies" etc. and each of those has Scripts, Prefab, Anim, Data folders inside

However I don't think its the perfect way of doing things... so I can't answer what the best way is

[foggy jackal]

Hey everyone, I'm making a VR game with Unity and I have a question about the splash screen in version 2022.3.62.f1. With this version, you can't delete the "Unity" splash screen; it's only possible with a premium subscription (but i am a singel dev without monny ). Is there a way to bypass this, since you can delete it in the newer version anyway? Everyone says that as soon as you see "Made in Unity," it's a bad game, and that's sometimes the case with low-quality games, etc.

[stuck flower]

The bypass is updating your unity version

[gray frigate]

i would not fixate on this at all

[foggy jackal]

I've done that before, but somehow everything broke down

[stuck flower]

Then you could just ignore it

[brave ridge]

If the artemis 2 tracker can start with the unity web gl loading symbol, so can you

[gray frigate]

that's pretty vague!

[foggy jackal]

yea you right

[gray frigate]

i left mine on (partially beacuse i'm already displaying the FMOD logo)

[night elm]

I'm having some issue with animating for an assignment. In the picture, the truck is lifting the box and the box is supposed to move up along with the crane when it's lifted but I cannot animate the box to go along with the crane. How do I solve this problem?

[gray frigate]

An animation can only affect objects that are parented to whatever has the Animator on it

you could use two separate animators (one for the truck, one for the box)

Are you only allowed to use animations for this, or are other components (e.g. constraints) permitted?

[night elm]

Idk about the other components for animating

[night elm]

How so?

[gray frigate]

right now, you probably have an Animator on the Truck object

[night elm]

This right?

[gray frigate]

the Animator window lets you edit an Animator Controller

an Animator component uses an Animator Controller to play animations

click on the Truck object in the hierarchy on the left side

look at the Inspector

[night elm]

Yes?

[brave ridge]

Does the box move separately, like via a rigidbody? If so then you'd probably want to attach it to the crane via a joint when it's being picked up

[gray frigate]

i presume you have an Animator component in there

[night elm]

Yes, what's next?

[night elm]

How do I do that?

[celest axle]

Would this be the channel to ask programming and development questions? I am new to unity and working on a project for a class :)

[brave ridge]

it depends on your setup, the joint itself would work if the crane had a rb too. A joint connects a rb to another rb (or to a static point in the world if you don't use another rb).
The crane can move via an animation but if the box isn't parented under it, then you need to attach it yourself in another way. Like a constraint, or a script that parents the box to the crane for example

[brave ridge]

theres code channels #💻┃code-beginner #1390346827005431951

[night elm]

What's an rb?

[brave ridge]

rigidbody

the answer to what you exactly need to do depends on your setup

[lost halo]

#💻┃code-beginner

[night elm]

This is my set up, if it has a rigidbody

[brave ridge]

there's no rigidbody, a rigidbody is a component. my question is what exactly do you want to happen here? Is the user supposed to control this truck and the crane picks up the box automatically? Is this just like a predefined animation happening in the background?

[night elm]

Like I've shown. I want the box to be animated and move along with the crane lifting it up but the box is a separated object

[brave ridge]

yes im aware you want the box to move with the crane. The question is more about the details surrounding this, why does it get lifted, when does it get lifted, is the box always supposed to be attached to the crane?
The answer for what you need to do depends on what you expect the user experience to be like. If the user controls the truck and can pick up the box at will, then you'd need some sort of detection in the crane to know it's overlapping with an object that can be picked up.
If it's just like a cutscene, then you could simply just parent the box to the crane

[night elm]

Okay so this doesn't relate to any user experience, it's just an animation for a due assignment. The box only attached to the crane when it's lifted

[brave ridge]

ah ok, then as Fen said a bit before, you can animate the box separately. Do the same thing you did for the truck and try to line them up.
Maybe you could get away with putting both the truck and box under a common parent object that doesn't move. Then animate it all under one animator

[night elm]

I tried the parenting object before but I cannot animate both object separately in it since they both move together. And I have to align the box with the crane when it's lifting up to animate it which I when I clicked on the box, the truck resets it's position