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[echo rune]

Ooh ooh i restarted unity and now it's building omg

I'm a pro unity user i know how to close n reopen unity to fix things

[warm brook]

hey guys how do i get to the shader channel

i cant find it

[charred fog]

id:browse Make sure you have topics enabled

[storm patio]

it was merged into #1390346776804069396

[warm brook]

topics?

oh

thanks

[worn wind]

Hey umm, I was making Unity project but my charachter kept pass by the wall (but yeah able to walk straight, left, right, or back, but I haven't put code/program to rotate body, and no I don't plan to make it jump

using UnityEngine;
using UnityEngine.InputSystem;

[RequireComponent(typeof(Rigidbody))]
public class PlayerMovementRB : MonoBehaviour
{
public float moveSpeed = 5f;

private Rigidbody rb;
private Vector2 moveInput;

private bool touchingWall;

void Awake()
{
    rb = GetComponent<Rigidbody>();

    // Safety settings
    rb.useGravity = true;
    rb.isKinematic = false;
    rb.collisionDetectionMode = CollisionDetectionMode.ContinuousDynamic;
    rb.interpolation = RigidbodyInterpolation.Interpolate;
}

void FixedUpdate()
{
    // If pushing a wall, still allow gravity
    if (touchingWall)
    {
        rb.linearVelocity = new Vector3(
            0,
            rb.linearVelocity.y,
            0
        );
        return;
    }

    Vector3 move =
        transform.right * moveInput.x +
        transform.forward * moveInput.y;

    rb.linearVelocity = new Vector3(
        move.x * moveSpeed,
        rb.linearVelocity.y,
        move.z * moveSpeed
    );
}

public void OnMove(InputValue value)
{
    moveInput = value.Get<Vector2>();
}

void OnCollisionEnter(Collision collision)
{
    if (collision.gameObject.CompareTag("Wall"))
    {
        touchingWall = true;
    }
}

void OnCollisionExit(Collision collision)
{
    if (collision.gameObject.CompareTag("Wall"))
    {
        touchingWall = false;
    }
}

}

[cyan lion]

is their some way we can merge different unity projects into one?

[worn wind]

Rigidbody and capsule collider is here it is...

[charred fog]

!code and post it in #💻┃code-beginner

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[charred fog]

Export as asset package

[worn wind]

aight

[gusty abyss]

Bro unity is really trying to gaslight me into believing there is a preview panel at the bottom of the inspector window

[static pulsar]

awesome photo of a monitor bro

Not all assets have previews

[boreal river]

Hey, guys! I was wondering is there a way to actually decrease the enter play mode time significantly without breaking or changing the behaviour of the compiler and to actually behave the same but faster?

I really have trouble with entering play mode all the time it takes like 20-30 seconds all the time and I am wasting time but I am also scared to check the options in preferences window because it will probably break things like the reload domain and reload scene boxes

[gusty abyss]

I’m just pissed bc I failed one their quizzes bc I picked that u can just open media player to preview it but apparently that’s wrong even tho that’s clearly a more consistent way than using the non existent preview panel

[hidden panther]

I have that problem too though not as long as yours, maybe it's a device issue for me (I don't have a powerful pc)

[boreal river]

Yes bro I am wasting a lot of time and I am scared of chaning the reload options because maybe it wont compile properly and it will behave differently

I think it has to do with PC as well

If you had a powerful PC it would be better

10-15 seconds for the reloading of scripts and more 10-15 to enter play mode its annoying

and my project has many files bro if it was a small scaled project with few files then ok I have a lot of assets etc etc

[hidden panther]

do you close unity when press play? it's significantly longer if I close unity to look at other app while it's starting

[boreal river]

oh so you mean I have to look another app while waiting for it to enter play mode?

[hidden panther]

nono it's the opposite, it took me longer when I close unity and look at other app

[violet thunder]

You can use the profiler to check what's taking so long

Standalone profiler + Edit mode profiling if i remember correctly

[boreal river]

Nothing works the only thing works is to actually close and open again Unity

it will be better for a while but then it will take a lot of time again

can I check reload domain and scene

maybe it will help ?

Or I am going to have weird behaviours?

[slow dirge]

You can see the domain reload report in the logs. Compare the first one to one that takes a lot more time to see what exactly increases it's time.

[slow dirge]

It depends on your code. The main issue is if you have static fields that need to be reset on entering/exit play mode.

You'll need to reset them manually.

[boreal river]

I have not a lot of static fields only where necessary for singleton nothing else

I have seen many videos to enabled reload domain and scene

and I am really curious to learn if it breaks something or not at the compilation time

[potent geyser]

It's on by default, and it doesn't "break" anything. It's basically refreshing everything.

[boreal river]

@potent geyser So, from here what I am supposed to choose?

wait maybe do not reload domain or scene?

[potent geyser]

I don't know the context of this question, I was just replying to your latest comment.

Personally I set it not to reload anything.

[boreal river]

Yes and whats the behavior?

[potent geyser]

Instant play mode

[boreal river]

I mean for the compiler

it does the same thing as reload domain and scene I dont think so?

[potent geyser]

I'm not sure what you mean. It does not do the same thing as those things because it's set to not do those things.

[boreal river]

if you dont use singleton pattern and statics then it wont break your game logic

if you use singleton which in most cases you will have to use then it will break from what I read

I am using the pattern and have some static fields so it will break my game logic

probably so I will have to be patient 🙂

[worn wind]

I think I realized my own mistake, It's not code problem...How to move the collider... That's new question...

[potent geyser]

You don't have to do anything? If you turn this off, then static values will not reset to their default values after you exit play mode.

This is easily handled by giving static fields a value at startup.

Also if you have static events, make sure you have an unsubscribe somewhere such as OnDisable

[flat breach]

hi man sorry to disturb you, I've tried the Enemies scene in a high definiton 3d project and the shaders appear all pink, do you know how I can fix?

the shaders type are set to HDRP Lit which shouldn't cause any issues

[potent geyser]

Is your project using HDRP?

[flat breach]

yes

I imediately created as a hdrp project

I've also allowed to ovveride some project files when importing the asset and there are no errors in the console

[potent geyser]

Does the project require a specific version of HDRP maybe?

[flat breach]

probably, in the quality settings, the fidelity already uses one custom made HDR pipeline asset but there are no default render pipeline assigned in Graphics and in Quality<Rendering< Render Pipeline asset , I forgot what the render pipeline asset in the rendering does but it's probably this, however I can't assign any HDR pipeline asset in it

[flat breach]

I've tried to assign one of their custom assets and also one of unity prebuilt one

one of the assets folder contains an asset called "HDRenderPipelineGlobalSettings", however it's not assigned and can't be assigned in the field

[slow dirge]

You'll need to share some screenshots of what you're trying to do, the assets that you're trying to assign and where.

[flat breach]

well, I'm not sure what the issue is but what I guess is there has to be a default render pipeline asset because that's the only thing missing I see(even if someone months ago told me using a fidelity wouldn't require a global asset), here are the 2 things I think are causing the issue

and this is the asset which probably should be assigned in

however now, i just saw these logs , maybe that says what the error is

[boreal river]

So, what do you recommend to do to change it to not reload scene and domain?

[slow dirge]

Yes, you need to assign an hdrp asset here.

[potent geyser]

Again I don't know the context of your issue. As I said I personally set it not to reload because it means instant play mode.

[flat breach]

but I can't...

[slow dirge]

This is not the hdrp asset.

[boreal river]

It wont break the logic are you sure?

[flat breach]

it doesn't allow me to slide one in and when I press the 3 points there are 0 in the project

[flat breach]

what's a hdrp asset then lol

[boreal river]

I have some statics and AI says it will break things if I am gonna do it and its not safe

[slow dirge]

Dx12_High and others seem to be an hdrp asset.

[flat breach]

I've tried with the unity prebuilt one it doesn't work neither

[flat breach]

they are too but still not assignable

[slow dirge]

Select it and take a screenshot

[potent geyser]

I feel like this is going in circles so I'll just say iit one last time. It won't break logic but it will not reset static fields which you will need to assign default values to at runtime, and in the case of static events will need to unsubscribe from it.

[flat breach]

the asset seems to be using all sort of scripts for everything

[slow dirge]

This one is right, but it seems to not be loaded properly. Do you have compile errors in the console?

[flat breach]

no I don't

[slow dirge]

Can you take a screenshot with the console open?

[flat breach]

are you sure it's not loaded? the asset seems to be using all sort of dependant scripts working on top of each other

[flat breach]

yes

[slow dirge]

Yes. It should show hdrp settings.

[flat breach]

didn't see there errors, I'm really sorry , I thought it would show compile error before the others

[slow dirge]

You'll need to fix those.

[flat breach]

bruh, I'll try

[slow dirge]

Or just open the project with the unity and hdrp versions that it was intended for.

[flat breach]

yee, that's what I'll do to be honest, maybe the errors would be simple to fix but I don't think it's an easy task, it's better if I could first understand how the project works without errors

[short grove]

Does anyone have any good resource on ynity’s behavior trees please?

[dapper delta]

I doN't even know where to put this, but does anyone have any clue what causes this?
This hapens with any type of custom pass

[flat breach]

hello, I've downloaded an unity version on the unity website, finished the downloading process and now I don't see it in the hub, is there an extra step I forgot?

[stuck flower]

Normally you would just download a unity version from the hub

You can add one downloaded elsewhere but you won't be able to manage modules or anything from it

[flat breach]

ohh so downloading from the unity website is useless? I need the 2023.1.5f1 and it isn't downloadable from the hub

I downloaded and then auto put it on my disk, maybe pasting it in Unity<Hub<Editor would make it appear on my hub no?

[stuck flower]

Is there a reason you need that exact patch version instead of the latest version of 2023.1?

[stuck flower]

No, you'd add it on the hub, there should be an add button that gives you the option to locate one

[flat breach]

no I need 2023.1 but it's not on hub neither so I found the 5f1 on unity website

[short grove]

Question is there a safe way to downgrade a unity project's version
I can just redo what I have done so far but gen the 6.3 version of unity wants me dead

[storm patio]

you can't use unity 6?

[flat breach]

I can but when I import the asset using Unity 6, a lot of errors appear

[storm patio]

what asset?

what's the context here?

[flat breach]

but anyway I think I've just found how to add the downloaded editor version, there's a locate button in the installs in the hub

[flat breach]

Enemies by Unity

[storm patio]

this one? https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/essentials/tutorial-projects/enemies-hdrp-248975

[flat breach]

I'm trying to import Enemies in a project but when I'm using unity 6, there are errors so dlich advised me to use the original asset version instead

[flat breach]

yes

[storm patio]

i see

[worldly cave]

Is there any benefit in keeping all my singletons on seperate game objects or can i just shove them all into 1 empty, granted the actual gameobject doesnt do anything apart from hold the scripts inside of the scene

[storm patio]

well it wouldn't be an empty once you add the components

[worldly cave]

Yeah no I Understand, i just meant it as the game object has no other components

[storm patio]

for most cases it shouldn't make a difference, but there is an edge case in case of conflict
if you do Destroy(this);, either would be fine, but Destroy(gameObject); might remove other singletons

personally i use gameobjects to group singletons, kinda
one gameobject has the game logic singletons, another has the audio singletons

[worldly cave]

that makes sense

i wish there was some more intuitive way of doing this than just using empties

like an actual "folder" within the inspector

i get its the same priniciple at the end of the day

but it gets to a point lol

[storm patio]

it's just a gameobject in that case, "empty" just refers to what it is initially

just calling it a gameobject is clear enough

[worldly cave]

makes sense i was just afraid of being misunderstood

i think ill keep them on 1 gameobject for now

its only 5 singletons

[storm patio]

gameobject makes that less likely, since you'd be calling it what it is

[worldly cave]

yeah but i would assume, someone else would assume that as a gameobject it also had some other properties

by saying empty i was establishing "this serves only one purpose and that is to hold this script and it does nothing else" even though at that point like you said, its no longer an empty

[storm patio]

i mean, technically yeah? every gameobject comes with a transform (for now)

but assuming anything else would be wrong

[worldly cave]

you never know with some of the people here lol

[storm patio]

-# just rq, sorry if i seem a bit heated, it seems to be a common thing beginners assume - that "create empty" makes something that isn't a GO

i'm not angry at you or anything

[worldly cave]

i know lol

a gameobject is a gameobject when you are creating an "empty" you are just creating a gameobject with no other components

[storm patio]

but yeah terminology is such a useful tool if used correctly and effectively

calling something that isn't empty an "empty" makes it more obtuse imo, since there are actual usecases to use just a gameobject with only a transform and nothing else

[rare holly]

Ya im going to be contacting unity at their home office. I cannot believe the stuff they kick you from this server for

[worldly cave]

I think they have bigger fish to fry

[rare holly]

Lol

[storm patio]

if you'd like to contact a mod, DM @karmic maple

you aren't gonna get anywhere contacting the unity company lol. they don't have direct oversight of this place, that's handled by community managers and moderators here

also consider reading #📖┃code-of-conduct

chances are, what you got kicked for is prohibited there

[solar panther]

Yo, where can i find some help on this server channel? Think that I've some problem of my FPS Controller that cannot move.

[worldly cave]

ask here

[balmy kettle]

!ask

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[storm patio]

most channels here are help channels

[worldly cave]

but we need more info and more context

[storm patio]

!ask

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[storm patio]

ah goddamnit

[worldly cave]

they really should add a cooldown

to that bot message

[solar panther]

They rlly should idk..

[storm patio]

yeah i suggested that https://discord.com/channels/489222168727519232/1455286033255104552 but it's probably gonna be a while because of holidays

[solar panther]

Thanks!

[rare holly]

So im rebuilding ultima online in unity mixed with dungeons and dragons mechanics. My idea is to add the core code in for now and the inputs and then animations later. Any thoughts

[storm patio]

"any thoughts" on what exactly?

feedback on the plan, on the idea, etc?

[rare holly]

Adding animations later

[storm patio]

sure, doing one thing at a time and just slapping in placeholders for the time being isn't uncommon

[rare holly]

I ran my own servuo free server for ultima online for years and it basically became a different game all my abilities transfer to unity since its also c#

Next question is the add component feature. I see you can turn things off in that. Unchecking it. Whats the rule of thumb for the number of abilities I wanna have per component

[storm patio]

there's not really a rule of thumb for "number of abilities", since that isn't something fundamental

in general you'd want to follow single responsibility - each entity (class, function) does some singular specific thing
what that thing is depends on how you want to design it - might be controlling a given ability, might be controlling a given character (with abilities included)

only you have the necessary context and vision to decide

[rare holly]

K was just checking for performance issue i dont want down the road

[storm patio]

don't worry about perf

computers are fast

it's going to be the same amount of actual work anyways

only worry about perf when a) you have perf issues, b) you are running things in the millions, or c) you are targetting very limited hardware, like an NES

[north mural]

can anybody help me edit my game

i will pe paying

[worldly cave]

edit?

oh you want people to work on your game?

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[north mural]

yeah

[worldly cave]

check the bot message

[cobalt sequoia]

how do ichange the excact position of this yellow dot?

[rare holly]

You cant ask those kind of questions. Kinda weird but you kinda open the door for people to steal your work by doing that

[short grove]

Does anyone know if Unity's behavior trees are good?

Im havving really bad errors with the component itself and I have no clue if this is the usual for it or not after I switched editors entirely

[storm patio]

what errors are you getting?

[rancid helm]

someone can help, where i can go with my github problems? there is no official discord server for that

and my launcher randomly died, and i can log into my account and i see every files, but in incognito mode, its 404 error

[storm patio]

many technical support communities would be willing to help with git issues
this one is pretty focused on unity though. is the issue in question with a unity project?

[storm patio]

what launcher exactly?

[rancid helm]

i made a launcher in vs .net for my unity game

there is my account, but

without my dev account, its vanished, and i didnt changed anything

and poor launcher cant download the logs, and the game xdd

[short grove]

Basically
Im having the issue where for some reason where theres ghost connections
for example the attack branch thinks that it already has an outgoing connection node on it and it wont let me add a new connection to it without decimating the performance

I cant figure out how to reset this because the delete just doesnt work either

[rare holly]

Please tell me i can post a meme related to this issue

[storm patio]

you shouldn't, generally. maybe a thread would be ok but that seems overkill lol

[storm patio]

ah, thought you had an actual error

[storm patio]

yeah i can't seem to access even the account let alone the repo

[rare holly]

Try restarting your computer

[charred fog]

@rare holly Don't post off-topic on the server

[rancid helm]

where can i go with this problem? xd

[worldly cave]

github support?

[storm patio]

have you tried a library reset?

[rancid helm]

i need to send an email?

or what

[storm patio]

i mean, it seems like an issue on github's end, tbh

[short grove]

oh yeah I do it just wasnt on hand

[short grove]

I swapped editors entirely but atp ill run that too

[coarse token]

I need help with this

[worldly cave]

we are going to need to hear more?

is it the project not found?

what do you see when you go into that folder?

[coarse token]

Its the

[craggy pollen]

there was a security bug in the previous versions, it tells you to use a more recent version

[coarse token]

Im trying to make a gtag copy

and i need that version

[pearl oyster]

It's very unlikely that updating the patch version would break something

[short grove]

Yeah no the library reset didnt do much
I need to talk to anyone whos actually used this component but geniuenly this is so ass to work with if it keeps on

[sick chasm]

Is this where I ask for help with coding?

[worldly cave]

no its in #💻┃code-beginner

where you just were.

[pearl oyster]

If you really have to use that exact version you can ignore the warning and update the build with the patch tool

[coarse token]

How do i get the patch tool?

[pearl oyster]

Put the mouse cursor on the red triangle and click "read more" in the popup

[subtle owl]

What is that? I ask 'cause I want to know and learn it. Looks pretty interesting to me.

[short grove]

Its basically just a visualizer for making game AI
lets you keep track of how an AI thinks in a flow chart rather than code

[subtle owl]

Is that a plugin or something else?

[worldly cave]

its a unity package

[short grove]

unity package but it i had to choose a slightly older version to fix my issues now not the recommended

[subtle owl]

ah, okay

Thanks

[wild condor]

which is better for drawing a grid, a line renderer or a mesh?

[worldly cave]

for visualization purely? because unity has a built in grid component

[wild condor]

yep

[main venture]

Im desperate

I dont have game ideaaas

[craggy pollen]

how comes

[modest meteor]

flappy bird

[rose trout]

And then we have black desert and TERA

[craggy pollen]

flappy bird in 3d would be interesting

[silk fractal]

They have real-time, physical combat?

I played tera years ago for 30 minutes

[wild condor]

the class in that script has other name than the file

[rose trout]

They are both action combat MMOs. When it comes to “best” combat in MMOs, those two are often mentioned

[wild condor]

if not, copy the content of the file, delete it and paste in another file

[silk fractal]

Fair, likely they were well aware how to make combat satisfying, without turning it into pianist fight, like in wow

[craggy pollen]

i think this requirement has been removed lately, class and scriptname can differ now

but it looks like this is the case in this example for some reason

[wild condor]

just tested that now, didnt know they did this

[woven slate]

Thanks, I'll try it out and let you know how it goes

[rose flicker]

Hello, I have an important question.How developed should prototype games be?
Do I add every feature I want my main game to have?
Do I let some bugs in the prototype to save time?
After I finish a prototype, do I make another, what is the point of making another prototype?

[craggy pollen]

hm who told you to do that actually

[wild condor]

just make a vertical slice of the game, let the bugs be, and after u did the prototype u can make another and then get some feedback on them, choose 1 and go for it

[rose flicker]

I watched some tutorials about indie games and they told I need prototypes

[rose flicker]

So I make one part of the game for each prototype?For example prototype 1: map generation , prototype 2: movement mechanics?

And then I combine those if I liked them to make the game?

[wild condor]

try to focus on mechanics, map gen isnt that important for a prototype

what u described is iterative development

a prototype is just a way of testing a mechanic/game idea

[rose flicker]

Aaa

[rose flicker]

So if I am deciding between 2 games that are similar, I make 2 prototypes and then decide which I like the most?

Or any 2 games I want to make, prototypes will help me decide?

[wild condor]

kinda, but u shoudnt make prototypes that are similar

[rose flicker]

Then second thing I said

[wild condor]

try to do different ideas

ye

[rose flicker]

Thanks, that’s all

[wild condor]

gl :DD

[rose flicker]

Thanks

[shadow heron]

I am making a full body fps controller and I want it to feel good. Do you think I should move my player with the animations via root motion? To give it a better feel maybe?

[mild radish]

ive always thought of it differently.. sure it'd look nice.. but having ur anims be the main controlling factor of ur movement seems to me like it wouldnt be as customizeable

[sly lake]

It’s more customisable

Since you control the movement per animation frame

[mild radish]

i've always thought that locomotion should be code-driven
with the animations being reactive (following velocity/blendtree's iks etc)
especially for a fullbody FPS..

figured by using code-based curves and modifiers it'd be more scaleble but im the worst at structuring projects 😅

[sly lake]

It just ensures animations match. You have the same level of control.

It’s not less responsive, by definition.

[remote iron]

is someone using cursor with unity?

[plain dagger]

I know people who do and it works, why?

[remote iron]

i cant make intellisense to work, c# dev kit and unity extensions are not available in cursor

I already downloaded the plugin in unity with the URL but idk what else i should do

[plain dagger]

thats on purpose

Cursor isnt allowed to use the vs code extension store but people work around it anyway

so you are on your own if you need ai that badly

[remote iron]

in reality i just use it to ask questions, not to generate code, i find it really much more faster than googling for 20 mins really specific stuff

[remote iron]

which IDE are u using then? VSCode or VStudio?

[plain dagger]

vs

i may ask an ai chat something once a week but i dont use it or need it for daily tasks

I prefer my brain

[fleet canopy]

also like if you really really really need ai I don’t see why you can’t just use normal vs code

I believe they have copilot or whatever

[plain dagger]

cursor is different and has the power to shit on your project

[gusty abyss]

How much does ssd speed matter vs cpu speed when you want fast unity builds?

[plain dagger]

cpu perf is more important but you want a mid non shitty SSD

[sly lake]

VSC with Codex plugin gives you the proper extensions

Bit more jank than Cursor tho

[sly lake]

Mostly just want a lot of cores / hyperthreading

[mild radish]

Codeium / Windsurf is the AI plugin I use w/

[fleet canopy]

Interesting

I personally don’t have any extensions (on jetbrains rider) if I need to use ai then I’ll use a temporary chatgpt chat

[sly lake]

Never found a good one for Rider

Always have two IDEs running now. For other plugins too.

[fleet canopy]

I think they have copilot on rider and they’re pushing their new junie ai

yeah I also have vs code installed for anything else lightweight

[sly lake]

Rider’s Slang plugin is absolute ass

[fleet canopy]

shader?

[sly lake]

Yeah

[rancid helm]

so i wrote a simple code part with ontriggerenter&exit, if you are in water, your speed = basicspeed/2, and i have 0.7fps, i even restarted my engine xdd
how can i see what causes this?

[sly lake]

The profiler

[meager oriole]

unity relay is deprecated? what is to be used now?

[remote iron]

its crazy how I unistalled both github copilot extensiones and im still getting the tab at the right and the red message bottom under

there is no way to remove it completely?

in VSCode

[late rover]

Maybe vscodium won't have it. It's a FOSS fork of vscode

[fleet canopy]

forks don’t get access to the native extension store however

[remote iron]

but do you guys also have that github copilot thing even when unistalling? Idk why it should keep staying there if i unistall everything, its really invasive

[worldly cave]

copilot is like this pestering plague of uselessness

cant get rid of it and its everywhere

even on github desktop for some reason it tries to automatically write commit messages for you?

[remote iron]

then @plain dagger must be really upset about it since he already got triggered when i asked something about AI

[plain dagger]

dont ping me

[worldly cave]

bruh what

i guess i missed something 💀

[remote iron]

i use sourcetree, like to check things visually

[strange moon]

oh thats actually cool to have, isnt it?

[worldly cave]

no its not because its useless lol

if you wrote the code you know exactly what youre commiting

the ai has to guess without a lot of context

[strange moon]

Its actually great for this kind of tasks

How does it guess when it literally knows the code changes from the commit

[worldly cave]

it doesnt understand the importance of certain changes

you could make a million changes to a single script that are all important and then adjust a font file once and its going to spend 50% of the commit message talking about the font file

its entirely pointless

write your own commits.

[potent geyser]

Can this turn into a thread please, this is beyond Unity.

[strange moon]

Oh really it focuses on bullshit?

Maybe its your sign to split commits better

One category surely is that unity likes to change one million lines

[fleet canopy]

Maybe it’s your sign to add the proper gitignore

and also um

The thread I think

[remote iron]

bro its crazy, i unistall both extensions but as soon as i write in the chat on the right it installs instantly again LOL

[strange moon]

.unity surely is something that I wanna track. Plus Im using official gitignore file

[fleet canopy]

don’t write in the chat?

[strange moon]

Embrace AI guys. I know that it sucks very often and its important to make it do what you want

[vivid river]

no

[potent geyser]

#💻┃unity-talk message

[rancid helm]

this is beautiful XD

[strange moon]

8K

[atomic folio]

so umm how exactly do you creat hitboxes

[balmy kettle]

That's what a collider is for

[worldly cave]

#1180170818983051344 , this is a help channel.

[supple mica]

guys how do I add images here

I wanna add a crosshair image

[worldly cave]

you need to import a crosshair image and set it to be a sprite

[supple mica]

like this or no

[worldly cave]

Yes

[plain dagger]

Its set to "multiple" mode so unless you configure sprites there are none to use.
Change it to single mode.

[supple mica]

Ok thanks

turns out I forgot to apply which is why it didn't show up

[wind escarp]

does any1 know what happend? i baked the nav mesh and this happend

[karmic locust]

Hi! I'm playing Fly Like a Bird 3 right now 🐦 Anyone hosting or want to play?

[vivid river]

whats that

[karmic locust]

It's a multiplayer bird flying game by Raven-Woods, pretty chill and fun. Want to try?

[gusty abyss]

damn you unity

[exotic relic]

Thats only a problem with linux, not unity

[rocky wadi]

Hello

[near wigeon]

!collab

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[near wigeon]

also you should delete the one in #1390355039272439868

[wind escarp]

saying again: does someone know what happend? i can respond everything

[torpid cave]

can someone help me make a fullscreen blur effect in shader graph

[mystic oriole]

Is Animator.Crossfade the exact algorithm that is used for animator transitions internally?

[glass depot]

anyone ever worked with wall running before? Im trying to make curves work and it is incredibly frustrating

is this a universal experience that physics based movement is horrible to work with

[rancid whale]

Difficult that’s for sure. I’m not sure about “horrible”.
What do you need to use curves for?

[glass depot]

Curved wall running

I think ive worked out a solution im too lazy to do rn but im 75% sure my issues were coming from the fact my camera script changes my players orientation which messes with the raycast for getting the walls normal and stuff

[rancid whale]

Ohh yeah so you’re getting into raycasts, snapping, float precision that kinda thing.

[glass depot]

Only took like an hour or 2

[glass depot]

I hate physics so much

[rancid whale]

Make sure to brush up on Slerp vs Lerp. Have you watched the video “Collide & slide - actually decent physics” on YouTube?

[glass depot]

But hey i want to make a movement shooter there will be physics involved

[glass depot]

Lerp is a to b over t or something but i have no idea about slerp

Ive used lerp a few times to smooth stuff

[rancid whale]

Try finding that video it’s pretty technical. Might open your eyes to new possibilities

[glass depot]

And no ive watched a few tutorials about movement controllers realised i dont like any of them and frakensteined the code

Im pretty happy with what ive got rn but wallrunnings gave me the most headaches

[rancid whale]

Have you watched the Toyful Games video about Springs? I really prefer that to “smoothing with Lerp”
There’s a whole thing with that called WrongLerp which you can find on UnityHowHuh

[glass depot]

I really should probably do more actual research but no never watched it

Ill make a note of it

I just use tutorials and API until it works

[rancid whale]

Start with those 2 videos I’m sure you’ll realize the right route you need to take along the way

[storm patio]

slerp is also a to be over t, except not in a straight line - the s stands for spherical, it has some notion of being on the surface of a sphere

[rancid whale]

Smoothing and physics are two huge topics that can make or break your game

Nearly every game out there involves them

[glass depot]

I have 0 knowledge in physics and decided to make a momentum based shooter

[storm patio]

(you shouldn't use it directly for that btw https://unity.huh.how/lerp/wrong-lerp )

[glass depot]

Its been

Fun

[slow dirge]

Looks like the objects were moved after the navmesh bake.

[glass depot]

Ive only used it for minor things but didnt know

Ive used it for like fov change, objects for reference

I added a time slow so i needed something to move to see if it was really working so just lazily lerped it

[storm patio]

literally everything is an object so not sure what you mean by that second point

[glass depot]

Probably the thing I said afterwards

i needed another object to move back and forth so i could see it move

[storm patio]

in testing/prototypes? yeah to get something quick and dirty that's fine

[oak meadow]

how do you move an prefab to a different folder i moved it in the explorer and it gave me serialization errors

[storm patio]

but you shouldn't use it in your actual game

[storm patio]

make sure to move its meta file too

[rancid whale]

If you’re really cooking up a banger maybe you can just proceed that way.
I heard Celeste is kinda poorly coded. Didnt matter

[glass depot]

But ive not lerped any player movement I handle all that with horrible amounts of addforce.force and lineardamping

[storm patio]

or try moving it in the Project window in unity instead of outside

[glass depot]

Oh god my code is pretty horrible but the movements been solid until wall running

[storm patio]

you wouldn't want to use poor lerp smoothing for things that actually matter

[glass depot]

I think its an orientation thing

[storm patio]

for movement acceleration it might mean a low fps player can't physically clear a jump from standstill, for example

[rancid whale]

Yeah, i like Springs way more. Real easy to set up once you, well, have the code set up

[storm patio]

the main problem with lerp smoothing is the framerate dependence

[rancid whale]

Yeah it’s amazing how Freya breaks it down in the video that UnityHowHuh references

[glass depot]

I think? My movement is entirely detached from frame rate? I just handle it all with add force and damping in fixed update and stuff

So afaik it should be fine

Idk how to test tho

[rancid whale]

We always want to “just know enough” to make the game. Avoiding the depths of math and analysis

[storm patio]

a player doesn't see code, so if the behavior is fine, then the result is fine (it'll just cause headaches to you, updating/debugging stuff, or to modders working with your code)

the problem with wronglerp is that it's not good behavior

[glass depot]

Whats springs?

[oak meadow]

Yeah i did that and it still happened and then i did it inside of unity the side bar with all the projects and it still happened is this normal?

[storm patio]

that was just an example of a potential problem from using wronglerp, since it's framerate dependent

[rancid whale]

Watch the Toyful Games video

[glass depot]

Ill have to get to it at some point

[storm patio]

could you show the errors? also, do you have auto asset refresh enabled? (if you don't know what that is it's probably enabled, as it is by default)

[glass depot]

I think ive got alot to catch up on but i almost have a base for the player movement

[rancid whale]

Springs are everywhere now. Even in lots of modern websites. Everyone loves them

[glass depot]

So i wanna get it done before I realise i did it all wrong

[rancid whale]

It’s like a 10 minute video, real well made too. Sold me on the whole Springs thing

[storm patio]

springs are just a force that gets stronger with more distance from the target

[rancid whale]

Looking at the Ryan Juckett code for springs is perplexing for me

I just know it works. So well

[storm patio]

physically irl, springs exert a force F = kx, with x being the distance from the neutral position of the spring (the target position), and k being the "strength" of the spring

[rancid whale]

It’s the dampening part that is complex

“Critically damped” springs especially i think

[storm patio]

ah, yes. otherwise you get a harmonic oscillation

that would be a terrible UI 😆

[rancid whale]

Look into PID controllers after, now that’s some tricky but useful stuff (Vazgriz has a video and page on it)

[glass depot]

I just googled it

[rancid whale]

Apparently lots of real life systems use PID controllers. Like aircrafts and sh like that

[glass depot]

Thats alot of words

I think ill stick to adding force and damping it

[rancid whale]

Eh, it’s like 30-50 minutes of watching / reading stuff. Up to you if you wanna invest that

[oak meadow]

Hm i went to check for that setting and then it compiled for like 3 minutes and now its working

[rancid whale]

Coolest and most useful stuff I’ve seen out there at least

[glass depot]

My code is currently held together with glue and 300 else if statements

I think ill stick to basic math

If u can call it math

[rancid whale]

Been there. Didnt work out well down the line man

[vast radish]

Can someone tell me how to fix the move tool, i dont know how to get it out of object selection and it wont let me move a prefab

[glass depot]

Its currently working and when it stops ill cry

[rancid whale]

But hey don’t listen up to you. That’s what this discord is for, for people who’ve already been through that, to tell you, hey it’s better to do it this other way.

[glass depot]

Then come back after I realise they were right yeah probably

[storm patio]

tip: if you can make your logic generalized, a little basic math applied cleverly can replace some branching

[glass depot]

But for now Im learning so i gotta try it all

[rancid whale]

Oh you’re talking about avoiding if/else statements? I’ve always wondered about that.

[glass depot]

See that requires math

[storm patio]

no, it requires thinking

the math i'm talking about is addition

[glass depot]

Id rather paste 309 lines of code

[rancid whale]

Like having a “weight” value between 2 behaviors right, instead of if/else

[storm patio]

you should not try to "avoid" math

math is a manifestation of logic

[glass depot]

It gets incredibly complicated incredibly fast so I choose to stick with what I know until I cant and im forced to learn a little more math

It’s currently got me to like

[copper gust]

it doesn't always

[rancid whale]

See we’re trying to tell you that it’s better to learn the math up-front.

[storm patio]

the things i'm talking about are just stuff like this tbh
from this:if pressA move x -1 if pressD move x 1 if press W move y 1 if press S move y -1to this```
horizontal = pressD - pressA
vertical = pressW - pressS
move x horizontal, y vertical

[glass depot]

Its probably faster but i dont like it at all

Id prefer to learn with experience

[storm patio]

it's not about being faster

it's about being better

[glass depot]

And it forcing me to learn

[storm patio]

not better code, it makes you better

[rancid whale]

It’s a lot harder to end up with an enjoyable result that’s all

[copper gust]

learning is development

[rancid whale]

And what Chris is saying

[rancid whale]

Wow nice one… I think something just clicked in my brain. Great example

[storm patio]

being forced to learn is generally not fun and can get you burnt out. learn on your own terms
but it's kinda up to you to want that

sometimes you aren't forced to learn something, because there's an alternative that happens to be worse and harder and more fragile. you'd never learn the easier way if you only learn when forced to

[rancid whale]

It’s only after you try to “hack sh* together” and “Frankenstein” it, for months, and then have to re-write everything,
That you realize Chris and the other discord homies were right

[storm patio]

don't get me wrong, it can certainly be fun to try to make stuff yourself. but if you limit yourself to only doing that, that's just a worse experience for you

[glass depot]

It depends how far down the yandev code pipeline I go but I get what ur saying

Rn im just making my like first ever prototype

So im just seeing what i can make with the movement

I only have 100 else if statements instead of 1000

i prefer the hands on roadblocks instead of study tho

[storm patio]

ngl it sounds like your prototype idea is a bit too ambitious for the amount of experience you have

[storm patio]

just keep in mind that studying makes every roadblock easier to overcome

[copper gust]

you don't have to study to do something like this suggestion

[rancid whale]

It’s a phenomenon, that building one’s first character movement controller convinces the Dev that they can Frankenstein up the rest of the whole azz game too

[copper gust]

it's primary school math plus a little bit of adulting logical mindset

[glass depot]

I mean im like 75% done with movement which is all I really wanted to play with to learn

Having to learn enemy ai and everything else tho

[storm patio]

(doesn't have to be actively reading or watching either, just spending some time thinking/designing instead of brute forcing your way through also helps)

[glass depot]

And just gamedev as a whole

[copper gust]

math is probably a poor word for a bit of this tbh. it's more specifically thinking about how you can use / reuse numbers in a way that empowers your logic

[rancid whale]

I wonder how many diagrams were drawn to finish Celeste. Or Dead Cells or Cuphead

I mean holy sh*, edge cases out the wazoo as they say.

[storm patio]

i mean, that probably includes level design and concept art/design, so that'd probably be massive lol

(i get what you mean, just joking about the wording)

[rancid whale]

Yes js meant logic / gameplay systems diagrams

[storm patio]

i had a few diagrams deciding on behavior of an ability for a prototype that really helped drive the logic. i wonder if i can dig those up

i'll also go check how many ifs/elses i have... kind of a note to self once i get back on PC lmao

[rancid whale]

I love to take the mystery out of stuff and just, fully understand what’s actually happening

[glass depot]

What happened to it just works!!

[rancid whale]

It doesn’t always require math

[storm patio]

mate that's a joke

[glass depot]

Yes I also made a joke

[storm patio]

also that applies when you have deadlines or more important issues to worry about

[storm patio]

wait that's on me, i wildly misread this lmao, sorry

[rancid whale]

Nothing “just works” dude 😭 maybe you can make the next Cyberpunk game with 999 bugs

[storm patio]

shouldn't chat and do other stuff at the same time

[gusty abyss]

any known issue where unity just refuses to use your mouse input until you restart

I can't look around anymore

[storm patio]

in the game view?

[gusty abyss]

Editor

[storm patio]

in what tab in the editor

[gusty abyss]

the Editor view

[rancid whale]

That’s legit fair though yeah. Many hit games are known to be poorly coded!
But to make a poorly coded game with 0 bugs is harder than if it’s coded a little better / with more planning & consideration

[storm patio]

there's no window called the editor inside the editor to my knowledge

are you in the scene tab, the game tab, or something else

[gusty abyss]

then the Scene view

[storm patio]

or is the entire editor unresponsive, including hierarchy/inspector/project/console

[gusty abyss]

only the scene view

[storm patio]

i haven't heard of this, what version of unity are you on

is any mouse input being ignored in the scene view? selecting objects, dragging them around, panning, orbiting?

[gusty abyss]

that one

not sure why it shows debian as I don't use that suite

[storm patio]

that doesn't include any versions, and it's not even the app i'm asking about

what version of the unity editor are you on, the hub's version is irrelevant

also, this is on arch?

[gusty abyss]

6.3

[storm patio]

i don't think arch is officially supported, it might have unforeseen issues - this might be one such case

[storm patio]

what patch version

[gusty abyss]

2f1

[rancid whale]

The whole “held together by duct tape” thing actually ends up being way more difficult down the line. The more you add stuff and, well, build out an entire game

[gusty abyss]

Ive never had any issue holding stuff up with duct tape

other than all the times ive had issues holding stuff up with duct tape

[rancid whale]

It’s when you find that 1 edge case bug and you’re like…
Ohhh okay I have to re-write the entire system to fix it.

[storm patio]

@gusty abyss have you tried a library reset?

[rancid whale]

Or, adding functionality ? 😂 forget it

[gusty abyss]

It happened again

[rancid whale]

The initial system is like, 3 pieces of duct tape.
Then to add just 1 basic thing takes 10 duct tape pieces,
To connect it to another system, 30 duct tape pieces
…
Like the grain of rice fable

We need a UnityHowHuh page called “Exponentially Growing Duct Tape”

[storm patio]

i'm not sure what tool you have selected there, have you tried the normal pan tool?

[gusty abyss]

the basic create probuilder object

[storm patio]

that's pretty interesting
and for reference this project has 2,763 LoC

[storm patio]

have you tried the pan/hand tool

[gusty abyss]

nope

can't use it until it happens again

and its rotating the camera

I can move and pan just fine

[storm patio]

so what's the issue here?

you said it wasn't accepting mouse input before?

clearly you can zoom there

is it just rotating that's the issue?

[gusty abyss]

yes

mouse XY input

[storm patio]

can you pan

[gusty abyss]

normally

I have not tried it when its bugged

[storm patio]

ok, try that

[gusty abyss]

not until it bugs out again

[storm patio]

game design diagrams

[frank vigil]

Does anyone know of an old (possibly deprecated) unity sound effect pack that had many sounds of fantasy creatures/monsters? Im trying to find it. Particularly used in yamtar games and eternity game arts' mobile games.
sounds like orcs, plants, heavy-bugs, slimes, frogs, other weird sounds.
all had 3 attack sounds, 2 Call/broadcast sounds 2 death

[storm cosmos]

So I am trying to do some animations and for some reason my animation plays twice instead of once before the delay is supposed to occur for next animation. Its just a basic attack animation. When a trigger is set to attack then the animation plays and an idle combat animation plays until the delay is over then it gets triggered again

[meager bolt]

So I'm going to make a desktop pet, but better. If anybody who's good with coding in unity wants to help, I'd greatly appreciate it. The basic theory is that we have a rigid body controlled by a physics engine, ontop of that, it has an ai model train by something (probably AB videos) on life like things, like waving at the screen, walking, climbing, ect. Then there's a customizable layer on top of the rigid body that acts as what the figure looks l like, do you can just draw a stick figure, it maybe get one off the Internet. You then set up as skeleton for that, and then that skeleton is conformed to the rigid body, so that you have a Stickman, that actually interacts with the environment. It's basically just a desktop ragdoll with a brain

[slow dirge]

#🏃┃animation and provide more details, screenshots, and/or a video.

[storm cosmos]

Thanks

[fleet canopy]

Don’t think it was a unity pack specifically you would probably have to dig online

unless it was on the asset store

Still would have to dig online

[fleet canopy]

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[meager bolt]

Oh mb

[fleet canopy]

it’s alr

[fervent wyvern]

Hello

[gusty abyss]

I have no patience to make proper light probes

[fervent wyvern]

Bro I have a question

[gusty abyss]

yes?

[fervent wyvern]

What is this ?

[gusty abyss]

Light probes

[fervent wyvern]

Light probs increase graphics?

[gusty abyss]

they give global illumination to realtime objects in a fully baked scene yes

otherwise its useless

[slow dirge]

Yeah, they add 42 to it.

[fervent wyvern]

Btw can we use unitys particle pack for commercial use?

[gusty abyss]

Idk

Never used it

[cobalt sequoia]

how do i change the excact position of this yellow dot in the editor

[craggy pollen]

what are you trying to achieve there

[cobalt sequoia]

perfection

also maybe i want to know how to do it in scripts when im going to make a level editor

[balmy palm]

How’s everyone doing on this saturday?

[vivid river]

playing games

[dusk rapids]

türk var mı beyler oyun geliştirmeiy düşünüyorum da unityde pek iy ideğilim

[vivid river]

english channel..

[plucky granite]

Hello,
I've got a question, why do some games have it that when you hold "right" or "left", the characters turns around a circle rather than in place?
Seems to be prevalent in older ps1 and ps2 titles but why?

[gusty abyss]

@storm patio no it does not work

[potent moss]

is there some way to set the mouse cursors position in unity?

I'm trying to make the players cursor follow an object but idrk how to do that

[sage basin]

the new input system has a method to warp the cursor

[craggy pollen]

i´d simply hide the cursor and replace it with a sprite

changing the cursor position could be tricky

[balmy palm]

Pretty chill.

[charred fog]

Not a social server. Pleese review #📖┃code-of-conduct

[balmy palm]

Got it.

[cyan lion]

is it ok to have a 205 line long playercontroller monobehaviour script

or should i split functionality between multiple scripts? i would do that but then it will feel all spread up and messy, but its messy rn as well

[stoic lake]

or should i split functionality between multiple scripts? i would do that but then it will feel all spread up and messy, but its messy rn as well
wouldnt this just be the exact same amount of processes just in multiple files

you could probably optimise whatever controller you have but as long as its not doing something ubsurd itll be fine

[cyan lion]

i watched a video once advicing against monolithic monobehaviour classes that do everything. my script does not do everything. only does things triggered by inputs

[azure grove]

205 lines is not very long

If it's all serving the purpose of being a player controller leave it all in there

[cyan lion]

what is the new input system equivalent of Input.GetKeyUp()

[plain dagger]

Ideally you make an action and assign the key in there and respond to the correct phase of the action

[craggy pollen]

Keyboard.current...
but this doesnt serve the principle of the new input system

[plain dagger]

If you want to hard code stuff then follow this to see how: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.17/manual/Migration.html#keyboard

But ideally you use actions instead

[craggy pollen]

yep exactly that

[cyan lion]

are these the ones i need to change

i lack the attention span to read lengthy documentations 🥲 but ok

[plain dagger]

No you add the keyboard binding and then in code check the phase of the action

[plain dagger]

I linked a pretty table so perhaps try to read it instead of giving up now

[cyan lion]

was released this frame() seems right for what i want

[plain dagger]

yea there are many useful functions to check these things

[cyan lion]

what is the principle ?

[craggy pollen]

i recommend you research on that, the new input system is based on events

[elder isle]

is anyone able to help me?

im struggling to make the characters visible in a close up view

[craggy pollen]

any code or can you provide more infos

[craggy pollen]

is that happening in editor or runtime, sounds like cam frustum / nearClipPlane issue

[elder isle]

editor

[craggy pollen]

oh ok focus a small object in your scene by double clicking on it

in the hierarchy

[reef dome]

try right clicking it, otherwise idk if thats possible

[elder isle]

@craggy pollen

whenever i try to open a c# script

it keeps opening unity hub

and not the script importer

[craggy pollen]

how did you create the script

or did you just find it somewhere and imported to unity

[elder isle]

wym

i created a new script

[craggy pollen]

the warning message might be indicating something

[elder isle]

no

it opens up

unity hub

when i press

open

[plain dagger]

What editor is configured in your unity preferences?

[elder isle]

unity hub

it asked me which app i wanted to use

so i clicked unity hub thinking it will lead me to it's internal program

[plain dagger]

Wtf are you doing

[copper gust]

its doing what you told it

[elder isle]

how do i fix

[plain dagger]

You told windows to open .cs files in unity hub

You need to install an IDE and use that (VS, VS code, rider)

[elder isle]

how do i change it

[plain dagger]

then configure that in unity preferences to be used

UNITY PREFERENCES

[elder isle]

where is it

[plain dagger]

Edit > Preferences

External Tools

[elder isle]

where

[plain dagger]

IN THE DAMN UNITY EDITOR PROGRAM

https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/

[vivid river]

!ide

[vagrant root]

💡 IDE Configuration

If your IDE is not autocompleting code or underlining errors, please configure it.

Select one:

• Visual Studio (Installed via Unity Hub)
• Visual Studio (Installed manually)
• VS Code
• JetBrains Rider
• :question: Other/None

[plain dagger]

or visit google

[craggy pollen]

first check your pc maybe you have already installed it with unity. Visual Studio is the name

[fair cove]

I would not base splitting a script on the number of lines in it (since theres no context how much of that is comments, blank space, braces, etc) - instead I would base it on what the script is doing, and how much dependencies it needs to do it, as long as it is only doing 1 job then I think its fine, but im not sure if youve shown the specific code your concerned about

[cyan lion]

You want me to send the entire script?

[elder isle]

@plain dagger

i downloaded the manual one

but i cant find it while browsing

this good?

[craggy pollen]

that doesnt look right to me

[plain dagger]

When installed it should show visual studio as an option in the drop-down

Perhaps you need to restart your pc if visual studio is installed

OR your project needs the visual studio package updating

[elder isle]

wym

[plain dagger]

Check the package manager. Use Google to find where that lives

[craggy pollen]

can you confirm that you have Vs installed on your pc..

[elder isle]

ok look

[craggy pollen]

ok this is lookign better now

restart unity and try opening a script

[elder isle]

ok

yep

it works

[plain dagger]

Victory

[craggy pollen]

yeah

[elder isle]

thanks

[craggy pollen]

now make sure intellisens ealso works

send us a screenshot from inside the script

[elder isle]

ok

[fair cove]

If you want feedback about it, you could post it to a code paste site and share the link here

[elder isle]

@craggy pollen

[winged shale]

Is there any way to make a game without a script

[storm patio]

yes, but it won't be very good

[winged shale]

Really struggling with making a 3D world

[worldly cave]

[storm patio]

uhh i don't see how scripting relates to that

[winged shale]

Thinking of making a dark fantasy game

But it’s been my 3rd day

No progress

[worldly cave]

Are you a beginner in unity?

[winged shale]

Yes

[worldly cave]

Maybe start smaller

A dark fantasy (rpg?) Is pretty ambitious lol

[storm patio]

games are comprised of many aspects. you can omit them for less work but also for less results

you could have a 2d game with no art at all, just using the built-in sprites, but it wouldn't look very good, because that's the point of art

you could have a game with no code at all, just using built-in components, but it wouldn't be very fun, because that's the point of code

[winged shale]

Should be like this

[storm patio]

that's definitely way too ambitious

[winged shale]

Might take years to do this

[storm patio]

you will get burnt out if you try

[worldly cave]

Ill be blunt

Not even years

As your first project

Youre never completing this

You will burn out before you start making any tangible progress

[winged shale]

I think it would attract people

[winged shale]

Let’s say 5 years

Without a helper might be hard

[storm patio]

many popular games take years to make, and even then the creators have many many more years or decades of experience

if you try to go for that, you will take 30 years to make

[winged shale]

How long have you guys started doing programming

[worldly cave]

12 years

[winged shale]

30 years?

[worldly cave]

Working in unity for 2

[storm patio]

6 now i think, i haven't been counting

[winged shale]

I guess you make really good games

[storm patio]

yes, because you would be tackling a massive project with no preparation or experience

[worldly cave]

Damn right i do

[winged shale]

I watch YouTube tutorials lol

[worldly cave]

Because i practiced and took it slowly

I didnt start off by making my dream game

[winged shale]

But so far no one been sticking with the idea of making a dark fantasy game so I’m willing to take advantage

[winged shale]

When did you start making your dream game

[tender thicket]

i promise you if you start with your dream game you will quit durring the first week

[worldly cave]

Im still far from it

[winged shale]

Wow

[worldly cave]

In both skill and resources

[copper gust]

whats considered dark fantasy because shadows of the erd tree was like one of the biggest recent releases

[storm patio]

consider making a rocket to the moon from scratch with 0 prior experience vs someone who has experience with robotics and embedded systems and has already made rocket parts for other projects

[winged shale]

Honestly programming is hard telling A computer of something that you imagine it in your head won’t turn out to the thing you really imagined

[worldly cave]

Sorry to break your heart but ive seen at least 20 different independent projects trying to recreate those viral ai dark fantasy videos as games

Programming is hard, thats why its important to practice and to learn

Start small

You learn a lot

[winged shale]

So can I master programming in a year

[copper gust]

no one masters it

[winged shale]

Or is it 7 years

[worldly cave]

Master? No. But you can get reallx good at it

[storm patio]

make something simpler first, so you don't lose motivation and get burnt out. build up your experience

[worldly cave]

But heres the thing

[copper gust]

environment artists and animators are gonna matter far more than programming for that kind of game

[worldly cave]

You will never stop learning

Thats the truth

[tawny quail]

Most lovecraft inspired games are dark fantasy, and there are a bunch of really good ones. If you mean more "dark fantasy RPG", there are a ton of those.

[worldly cave]

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[storm patio]

<@&502884371011731486> compromised account

[cloud moss]

hello! is it possible to refer to a gameobject using it's prefab?

[worldly cave]

Can you clarify a bit?

[storm patio]

in what situation?

[copper gust]

a prefab is a gameobject

[winged shale]

So how small do I start what would my resources be

[worldly cave]

!learn

[vagrant root]

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[worldly cave]

Start from here

[elder isle]

hey guys so i put my character on the map but its not visible in the game section any ideas?

[storm patio]

gameobjects at runtime don't have any notion of what prefab they were instantiated from. that's an edit-time thing

[storm patio]

gonna need some more info to go off of

[cloud moss]

im trying to make a health bar but i cant get the public GameObject to refer to the bar in the scene, so i made a prefab for it to work and now im wondering if theres a way to get all instances of a prefab in the scene from the prefab itself

[elder isle]

my current characers

but whenever i zoom in closer

[winged shale]

So did anyone start learning programming in university or is it a special hobby

[elder isle]

or switch to the game section

they disappear

[copper gust]

im wondering if theres a way to get all instances of a prefab in the scene from the prefab itself
no

[storm patio]

https://xyproblem.info

[worldly cave]

Sounds like camera clipping?

[storm patio]

select some object and press f to reset the camera's zoom, make sure you're in 2d mode

[elder isle]

oh there we go

what about the

[storm patio]

for the game view issue, make sure your camera is behind everything. it should be at -10 Z by default

[elder isle]

game issue

[elder isle]

where do i configure that

[storm patio]

it started as a hobby and i'm learning it formally in university

[potent geyser]

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[novel scarab]

nagyviktor03 was banned.

[storm patio]

in the transform of your camera

[elder isle]

where?

is it under edit

or windows

[storm patio]

what

in the inspector?

[elder isle]

its not there

[storm patio]

select your camera in the hierarchy and view its transform in the inspector

[storm patio]

you haven't selected your camera

have you done unity essentials?

[stoic lake]

whats a good alternative to alpha clipping because its frying my performance

[elder isle]

whats that

[stoic lake]

400 quads per tree

[winged shale]

WOAH

[storm patio]

!learn go do unity essentials there 👇

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[winged shale]

SIR YOU ARE PROFESSIONAL

[worldly cave]

Thats pretty cheap no?

[copper gust]

its just a tree

cool tree but

[winged shale]

It’s giving me dreamcore

[elder isle]

could you js tell me

where to find camera

[stoic lake]

400 quads per tree with alpha clipping, 40 trees and the performance is WAYYY down

[winged shale]

I swear this is beautiful

[storm patio]

i would rather you go learn how the inspector works instead of having to handhold you 5 times through every step of the process of checking various gameobjects

[cloud moss]

why cant a prefab take in an object (through public GameObject) from the scene?

[winged shale]

How did you do the trees pls

[elder isle]

wait i found the camera

what settings do i need to do now?

[storm patio]

because the scene objects don't exist from the prefab's perspective

[copper gust]

the same reason a microwave at the store can't be plugged into your rooms outlet. it's not built for that context

[cloud moss]

is there a workaround ?

[storm patio]

https://unity.huh.how/references

[plain dagger]

Are the trees on unity terrain? Do their materials have GPU instancing enabled?

[storm patio]

you need to step back and design your stuff to make it easier to work with

[stoic lake]

the trees are not on a terrain and the materials have gpu instancing enabled

[worldly cave]

Was about to say even with 40 trees the performance shouldnt be that bad

[storm patio]

make the relations between objects make sense, then it'll be easier to implement

[stoic lake]

i merged all the trees into one mesh too

[elder isle]

@storm patiohello?

[plain dagger]

Oof that's worse

[stoic lake]

with alpha clip its 200 fps and when i turn it off its doing 450

[winged shale]

This looks amazing

[elder isle]

@plain dagger

what settings do i run

[storm patio]

#💻┃unity-talk message

[elder isle]

for me to be able to see

characters

[plain dagger]

One big mesh that it will often render wastefully because it's too big

[worldly cave]

In my project i have 40+ something enemies with individual animators and over 7k tris each with minimal performance overhead, i dont get how your trees would be tanking it that much

[storm patio]

@elder isle stop spamming please.

[copper gust]

transparancy stuff, as they are mentioning

[plain dagger]

No idea don't ping me randomly

[stoic lake]

sure but at only 32000 tris it probably isnt that bad no?

[stoic lake]

i saw a performance boost from merging so i dont think thats the issue

[elder isle]

its already at -10

[copper gust]

read what they said

until the problem is solved

[worldly cave]

Would it affect it that much though

[storm patio]

do your sprites have appropriate rendering layers set @elder isle

[plain dagger]

You don't want to merge the trees because the whole mesh will draw when some is visible meaning lots of potential waste.
Let unity handle batching for you via the SRP batcher

[copper gust]

can forsure, transparency isn't free and trees are dumb computer wise

[elder isle]

i took it from an asset store pack

so im assuming they do

[storm patio]

uh, i haven't said anything past that

[stoic lake]

so just enabling gpu instancing on the textures? because i had that before

[storm patio]

they're set in your spriterenderers, not the asset

this is something you have to do

[elder isle]

oh

[plain dagger]

On the material you mean. That helps because the GPU can draw the same mesh in multiple places

You need lods though to improve performance when you have many trees

[elder isle]

what are the appropriate layers?

[worldly cave]

Are the trees procedural?

The leaves specifically

[storm patio]

you have to make them

the appropriate layers are ones that are ordered correctly so your characters are on top of the background

note that these are the sorting layers set in the sprite renderer, not the physics layers set in the gameobject header

[copper gust]

I'd be curious how much transparency is actually needed to achieve the effect you have there tbh. dunno how to handle it with shaders myself but only the edges are really using it

[stoic lake]

procedural as in the mesh is created at runtime?

[worldly cave]

I mean yeah, im assuming its a tree model with a lot of quads procedurally scattered on the branches

Each quad has a transparent sprite/image of leaves on it

[plain dagger]

Where is this going

[stoic lake]

its a prefab

[worldly cave]

Point is, i feel like the effect could be accomplished in a different way if it wasnt procedural but rather just modeled

[plain dagger]

Ah you want the whole tree to be one mesh with geometry that avoids overdraw where possible

Yeah mesh is one draw call so you want to reduce it to 1 if possible

[copper gust]

If that effect is being achieved purely via layered transparency (like it's an actual tree) it probably just actually costs that much to render lowkey

[plain dagger]

Looks like it could be optimised

[copper gust]

a majority of the visual here in theory could be re-created without real transparency

[worldly cave]

I assumed there was a base "round" mesh in the middle initially

Because you dont need any complex geo for the "core" of the leaves here

Just the silouhette really

[stoic lake]

its just a bunch of rotated planes with outwards facing normals

[plain dagger]

Try to reduce overdraw and make an lod with much less geometry

And you can use triangles if you want you know

[elder isle]

my characters arent visible in the game

does anyone know a solution

only the map is

[craggy pollen]

make sure the camera can render the objects

[elder isle]

how come

because i added

[craggy pollen]

this is one of the most common issues

[elder isle]

barrels

and they can render that

[craggy pollen]

can you try moving back the cam on the z axis

[elder isle]

by how many

[craggy pollen]

open transform from the drop down

[elder isle]

these are my settings

[craggy pollen]

check the sorting layers on your sprite renderer

[cloud moss]

is there a workaround to modifying rectTransform.xMax from a script?

[storm patio]

your players are way behind the camera

that's at Z -75

[elder isle]

oh

[vivid cedar]

As far as I can tell there is no "rectTransform.xMax" on RectTransform:

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/RectTransform.html

Are you talking about something in the inspector?

[elder isle]

wait its visible now

thanks

[storm patio]

do you mean its rect's xMax?

i think you're supposed to use its anchors

[elder isle]

another question please

i scripted it so that it can now move

how do i test it out

[craggy pollen]

press play maybe

[storm patio]

@elder isle go do unity essentials.

[craggy pollen]

assuming you attached the script to a gameObject.

[elder isle]

i did

[cloud moss]

yeah .rect.xMax is what im talking about

[vivid cedar]

You can fully control the RectTransform using its properties from scripting listed here. Check the docs for more info. The way it works in the API is a little different from the UI in the inspector.

[elder isle]

where is it located

[storm patio]

rect is readonly from scripting

[vivid cedar]

correct but it's calculated from these properties

by modifying these proiperties like sizeDelta, anchoredPosition, anchorMax etc the rect will change

rect is the end result of all these

[storm patio]

yeah, just sounded like you were saying rect was one of the properties that can be used to control the rectTransform 😅

[cloud moss]

is there a way to mimic modifying rect.xMax?

[vivid cedar]

yes, by modifying those parameters

there are multiple ways to achieve changing xMax. So you really have to be more specific.

e.g. changing the anchored position OR changing sizeDelta OR changing anchorMax these could all modify the rect's xMax

your question is underspecified.

[cloud moss]

to make it look like its shrinking from that direction

[vivid cedar]

you probably want to modify the sizeDelta then

but it depends on how it's anchored

if it's anchored on the left, modifying sizeDelta will change where the right edge is

and vice versa

[cloud moss]

ok, thanks

[elder isle]

what does this mean?

[cyan lion]

Have you tried adaptive probe volumes?

[vivid cedar]

exaclty what it says

[elder isle]

so how do i fix it

[gusty abyss]

It spits out a kernel bug

so I am literally unable to

[vivid cedar]

your project is using the new input system (which is the default now) but this code is using the old one.

You fix it by changing which input system your project is using or you switch your code to use the new system

[storm patio]

!unput

[vagrant root]

<:error:1413114584763596884> Command not found

There's no command called unput.

[storm patio]

goddammit

!input

[vagrant root]

How to Set Input

To set Active Input Handling, go to:
Project Settings > Player > Active Input Handling

• Input Manager (Old): Use the original Input settings.
• Input System Package (New): Uses the new input system package.
• Both: Use both systems.

[cyan lion]

its a hardware issue?

[gusty abyss]

more like a Kernel issue

[cyan lion]

apv's saved me a lot of time and sanity

[gusty abyss]

I would use it

[cyan lion]

manually placing probes feels primitive now

[gusty abyss]

but my issue stops me

[cyan lion]

this is like magic it automatically makes probes

my lighting still looks mediocre though

not the "fully utilizing hdrp" look

also my scifi scene keeps crashing when i display probe volumes in render debugger.

[elder isle]

why is my

player animation

not working