💻┃unity-talk

[slow dirge]

The package manager. Not in explorer.

[primal monolith]

oh I found it

oh it fixed

thank you dlich,wolfos,mike,osmal

[charred plover]

Wait, where did you find it??

[charred plover]

I have SO MANY THINGS with 'lock' on it. 😅

Which one/s am I meant to be deleting? 😅 😂

Package Manager; there's nothing though.

⬇️ This is what's in my 'Package Manager' ⬇️

What did you have to delete @primal monolith ?

[primal monolith]

go package manager and search "version"

and remove it

[charred plover]

There are only these 3 files in the Package Manager

[charred plover]

I've got this in 'Library' though.....

[cyan lion]

can someone help me with this.

my internet is obviously working as i am able to send messages

[hidden panther]

is it okay to still use editor version with "security issues", I don't feel like changing it.

[storm patio]

yes, but you should update or patch when publishing a build

the security issue affects the build

[charred zealot]

Do anyone had a site to download game project file for studying?

[pearl oyster]

https://github.com/search?q=unity+topic%3Agame&type=repositories

[charred plover]

So like, do I just uninstall/ reinstall?

[violet thunder]

I dont know what issue you are having

[charred plover]

Version Control just isn't working.

I can't push/ pull any changes.

@violet thunder

[violet thunder]

No idea, havent used it

[charred plover]

Version Control is grayed out.
I've updated to the latest version of Unity etc.

Ah okay, no worries

[main venture]

hello, how can i make my terrain not so reflective?

the material attached to it seems like locked and i cant change its properties

fixed that

[mystic abyss]

well, that aint good 😅
I wondered why my system was locking up when I opened Unity

I think ive got an idea of whats gone wrong, my "first-time-run wizard" generates some assets, so my guess is it just endlessly created them

I scrapped part of that system, so I dont think it actually had a valid path to save the assets to

[slow dirge]

Try:

• uninstalling and reinstalling the package?
• restarting the editor.
• restarting the pc.
• check the editor logs for any mentions of version control.

[charred plover]

I literally JUST got it working; apparently it needed an update?? 🤷

[urban mountain]

guys, is it a channel where i can ask questions?

[slow dirge]

Avoid crossposting please.

[urban mountain]

okay...

still

[mystic abyss]

ah! disabled everything thats responsible for generating assets, not unity doesnt flood memory 😆

[urban mountain]

i have an object

like this

can i export it as fbx and how

[slow dirge]

You can probably export the mesh. Look up fbx exporter package for unity.

[hidden panther]

Does anyone have a good tutorial for shader in unity, I have zero knowledge and I need to learn it so bad

YouTube tutorial

[slow dirge]

There are plenty. Did you try googling?

[gusty abyss]

Guys what would be the best way to localize a dropdown?

Like the label itself that shows selected that isnt hard to localize but how would I localize each option shown?

[storm patio]

the localization package could probably help

[gusty abyss]

Yes i'm using it and it's helped me a lot but I have like 3 options and Id need to translate them tho I can't use localized string since how the dropdown system is made you can only modify the initial item not them 3

[storm patio]

a quick google suggests you'd use the localizedgameobject

https://discussions.unity.com/t/how-to-localize-dropdown-menu/941336/2
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.localization@1.4/api/UnityEngine.Localization.PropertyVariants.GameObjectLocalizer.html?q=dropdown

there's also this https://discussions.unity.com/t/localizing-ui-dropdown-options/792432/33

[hidden panther]

I did, still hasn't decided yet so might as well ask for recommendation

[mystic abyss]

Found the problem! I wanted to stop the wizard from showing twice

[InitializeOnLoad]
public class WizardEditor : UnityEditor.Editor {
  static WizardEditor() {
     if (ShowedWizard) {
      return;
    }
    EditorApplication.delayCall += SelectWizardAutomatically;
  }```

I assume Unity would initalize WizardEditor and wait for it to call, but I returned, so it initializes again and waits for the call

[blazing depot]

28 STAB WOUNDS

[charred plover]

Okay soooooo; UVC stopped working again. 😭

Uninstalling/ reinstalling/ updating to a different version doesn't work.
(First time it did, now it doesn't.)

[storm patio]

please don't spam.

[blazing depot]

where did i spam

[storm patio]

#💻┃unity-talk message and #💻┃code-beginner message

this is a help server

[blazing depot]

Code beginner was mistake

[storm patio]

that doesn't really excuse it, the message doesn't fit here either

there's no off-topic chat here

[blazing depot]

dude ok chill

[old hatch]

why does my game run better in the editor than in the build?

[pale coyote]

maybe because the editor runs at a lesser resolution so it has to render less pixels. in build its fullscreen so your device has to render more pixels

thats what i think idk for sure

[old hatch]

ohh ok

[pale coyote]

i have made some kind of first person shooter, in the editor its fine. but in the build version. the camera keeps twitching really hard . especially while aiming. can someone help me out?

[old hatch]

okay now it is very very nice!

[charred plover]

Is this what the new 'Version Control' looks like now??

That's the only thing I can think of it being...... 😅

But, I could be wrong; can someone that knows more than me please confirm if this "VC" please? 😅

[pale coyote]

last time i used VCS was like 1 or 2 months ago i dont really know lol. but i have never seen this before

before the branches system used to be a bit different tho i havent used them.

i only used VCS for backups

[charred plover]

It kind of just 'appeared' after updating to (6000.3.2f1) and VC 2.10.2

[pale coyote]

weird, thats the version i used last time with VCS

[charred plover]

I'm just trying to get it to work so I can collab with my friend in another country.

[pale coyote]

can u show your entire screen?

[old hatch]

another question but idk if this is the right channel for this
is there any way to gpu instance grass without procedurally placing it with code?

[pale coyote]

wait

are you just duplicating and placing grass or using paint details?

[old hatch]

im using prefab painter 2

so i guess duplicating the grass yeah

i dont know if the terrain paint details would work with the floor mesh i made

[charred zealot]

Tysmmm

[bleak sable]

Hello can somebody please help me fix this i dont know why one side is bright and the other is weird and dark (using HDRP 2022.3)

[old hatch]

might be the normals idk correct me if im wrong

[bleak sable]

ITS A WALL FROM PRO BUILDER SO JUST A CUBE

sorry for uppercase forgot to turn it off

[old hatch]

oh idk then

[plain dagger]

Is the normal map texture configured as a normal map? is it a direct x normal map?

[bleak sable]

the normal map is a normal map and its an gl

[plain dagger]

Is there an option to invert G for the texture (this will fix it)

to explain: open gl normal maps have the G channel inverted compared to DirectX

[bleak sable]

flip green chanel?

[plain dagger]

yes

[bleak sable]

nope didnt fix it i think its something with the sun cus when i move it it fixes one side

but the other one gets dark

[plain dagger]

Without additional lights or baked light or some kind of GI then this is expected

[bleak sable]

yeah but even if i bake it with selected as static and baking didnt fix it

but ill try to add additional lights thank you

[plain dagger]

Your sun would need to be set to mixed or baked to then contribute

Adding reflection probes will also help

[bleak sable]

and found the problem it was thath the metallic map was added even when i didnt addd it removed it and it works now

kinda

[charred plover]

This might be a silly question......
But, do we need a "Developer License" ??

If we do, I have nooooo idea where to find it. 😅 😂

[violet thunder]

Doesn't unity use OpenGL style normal maps?

[tawny quail]

<@&502884371011731486> ^

[plain dagger]

<@&502884371011731486>

[potent geyser]

?ban 842273544977383475

[novel scarab]

krish24163715 was banned.

[storm patio]

you need a license to use unity, yes

[charred plover]

Unity is asking for a 'Developer License" for like, Visual Studio or something?? 🤷

[storm patio]

no? each app would have its own license

not sure if visual studio needs a license

if it does, it'd be its own thing, unrelated to unity

but unity does also require its own license, unrelated to any ide

[charred plover]

I'm trying to find where I saw it again.

Found it; I'll send you the link. @storm patio
(Not sure if it goes to MY unity or, if it would go to yours?) 🤷

It wants a .pfx (Certificate File)

This is on cloud.unity.com
Trying to set up "DevOps"
(Do I even need that to collab with my friend in another country?) 😅 😂

[storm patio]

this soudns like it's for publishing?

certificates and licenses are not the same thing

it's asking for info correlated to your license, it's not asking for a license here

[sour salmon]

Unity 6 if it was released in 2020 be like:

[gusty abyss]

Is there a built in way to detect double clicks in ui rather than having to do with time.time logic?

like for a button press

[mild radish]

using System.Collections;
using UnityEngine.UI;
using UnityEngine.EventSystems;// Required when using Event data.

public class ExampleClass : MonoBehaviour, IPointerDownHandler
{
    public void OnPointerDown(PointerEventData eventData)
    {
        //Grab the number of consecutive clicks and assign it to an integer varible.
        int i = eventData.clickCount;
        //Display the click count.
        Debug.Log(i);
    }
}```maybe

[gusty abyss]

ohh thanks, but does it look at some interval or is how many times u clicked on that?

[mild radish]

im not exactly sure how it works.. i'd just need to debug the values in the console and find out myself..

ive never used the .clickCount

just found it

[gusty abyss]

right

ill figure it out later, thanks for the help

[mild radish]

using UnityEngine;
using UnityEngine.EventSystems;

public class UIListener : MonoBehaviour, IPointerClickHandler
{
    public void OnPointerClick(PointerEventData eventData)
    {
        // Check the number of clicks within the system's double-click time
        if (eventData.clickCount == 1)
        {
            Debug.Log("Single Click!");
            // Code for single-click action
        }
        else if (eventData.clickCount == 2)
        {
            Debug.Log("Double Click!");
            // Code for double-click action
        }
    }
}```

looks pretty simple ^ just an example i found on google

[worldly cave]

well we cant really help you here because you gave us no actual info

nor what problems youre facing

[mild radish]

yea.. dont be soo vague

nice 🍌 kuz 😉

[worldly cave]

thank you thank you, we of the bananiform have to stick together

all Three Score and Ten of us

then whats the point of you coming to a help channel here and telling us about it 🧐

[polar basalt]

WHAT

i didnt know that is possible.. i used to do this based on time logic.... thanks..

[mild radish]

yea me neither.. i knew the new input system u can probably make binds for it

but id idnt know u can do it with the handlers and the event system

[polar basalt]

wait, this is the new input system only?

it looks like old input system to me

[mild radish]

no the handler's are the EventSystem

yea

[polar basalt]

okay okay

[north herald]

Hi

[mild radish]

#💻┃unity-talk message

[north herald]

Ok

[charred plover]

Right, that explains it; I'm an idjot. 😅 😂

[mild radish]

i do too.. but tbh its more robust to do it yourself..
in my opinion... and then you can go ahead and do things like click and hold..
hold for (x), double click, triple click, etc etc

well.. that first statement probably isn't 💯 truth.. but good enough for me.. (im still learning the new input system)
i've done basic inputs but I haven't messed with the click and hold/ double click stuff in teh input system.. its on the to-do list.. somewhere down there.

[undone monolith]

hey what does this error mean?

[mild radish]

not sure.. but it looks self explainatory

[polar basalt]

tbh i only like the old input system, unless you do consoles, the old input is enough for me, its really easy to make custom keybinds and all of that

[mild radish]

whatever works for you bro 👍 im running both for now

[polar basalt]

[gusty abyss]

i use only new, i find it a lot better

[undone monolith]

can anyone help me with this?

[deft rock]

Just guessing, from reading the message. You're trying to use some location service, but haven't put a description for its use in the player settings

[mild radish]

☝️ lol exactly

since its not a typical error... im afraid not many people would just know the solution.. try googling the error

[undone monolith]

i don't need location, camera or microphone usage for my game

How do i disable those?

[deft rock]

no idea, time to google

my first search would be: how to disable unity location service

[plain dagger]

Apple are weird and want you to have some explanation for why you want to use some things

[undone monolith]

Yeah it's telling me to give reasons for features that i didn't ask for

[plain dagger]

id start by removing packages I dont need from the project

[undone monolith]

I kept searching on Google, and it told me to delete those features that were written by Unity in a script

Xcode or smth

How do I find that?

[plain dagger]

Doing something in xcode wont help

[undone monolith]

what else could work?

That's all I see in google

[lapis iris]

Hello. I'm just looking for some guidance regarding co-op. I'm 100% new to Unity and only looked on a couple videos but I can't manage to find what I am looking for.

I get it how to create it "co-op", but no tutorial shows how to example Player 1 picks up an item, and on Player 2 screen he sees the item in Player 1's hand.
And if someone can recommend a youtube tutorial playlist I'm happily looking at it.

or even something "basic" in my ears to put Playercontrols on a character. I got the "bean"-playercontrols working, but no clue how to use a character asset instead of the bean

[mild radish]

i dont see any mention of XCode

that was just the top error. haven't checkd the 2nd one yet.

its a setup/settings issue i believe via the errors and search queries instructing to mess around in the Player Settings usually

[mild radish]

that's just generic multiplayer.. you'll usually work with a system that has to clarify who Player is..
for example you'll have only 1 Player class or 1 Player inventory and it'll run code and check that the instance of it is or belongs to you.. soo you pick up an item and it updates your version of the Inventory and not the other players in the game (since they also have their own Player classes)... when you're doing co-op you still use the same style of system.. only you can update both versions soo the item is visible (or as if both players picked it up) [shared inventory]...

But as with much learning material you'll almost never find the exact thing you need (unless your building the exact same thing Boring..) but the skills and fundamentals are there.. you discover those and then you can adapt them and make them work for your use-case..

[junior kiln]

does anyone recommend or can you any sale items from the store

as a beginner

complete newbie

i was looking at top down and game maker

v2

[mild radish]

as for this.. you can find many sources too showing you how to setup your character..
you usually break up your game characters and, well, everything really into pieces..
you have:

• your logic layer -> just doing logic (movement, inventory, etc)
• your graphics layer -> should be a child object of the ROOT or logic layer (it only is graphics/models etc)

you should be able to change out your graphics of most things in your game without ever affecting the logic that moves it..
thats why for reference your character animations typically target a rig or avatar.. and the mesh just sits on top..

[lapis iris]

Thanks for your answers, I'll keep on fail and trying again 😄

[near wigeon]

save your money and use placeholder assets, in terms of templates don't, you wont learn much most of them have their own systems

[charred zealot]

Why unity is so depressing

I'm quitting my game development major

[near wigeon]

skill issue

[storm patio]

or environment issue tbf

[charred zealot]

Im so done bro

Deadlines in 1 day

40% progress 2 error

[near wigeon]

unless you state a specific issue you're having, randomly barking won't solve anything

[storm patio]

this server isn't exactly for ranting, if you have a specific issue you want help with you could ask about that

[junior kiln]

what about top down engine or game maker v2?

[exotic relic]

As soon as you realize how its created, youd realize the asset wasnt worth the money

[near wigeon]

yup

[exotic relic]

Simply that, its not too difficult to create

you need dedication

[charred zealot]

not really trying to solve sumthing just letting off some steam

guess at the wrong server

mb

[mild radish]

no problem..

easy way to do it is always remember to seperate the two

• RootGameobject
  • RootGameobjectsGraphics

controller code handles the root's transform if needed
the graphics would just follow along for the ride... changing them out anytime you want..
even without graphics the root object would continue to function

for rigs you can just search up Unity character animation / rig animation or whatnot
you'll control the animator for that rig w/ code to make it walk, run, idle, etc
those would be "states" and you can either set up the transitions and stuff inside the Animator's graph view using parameters and things or you can handle it all yourself w/ a statemachine script of somekind telling the animator which clip to play specifically

for the multiplayer i'm sure you could find something about "shared inventory multiplayer unity" etc..
or if not you can be abstract about it and just find some tutorial that affects both players, or all players
and then that would get you started by seeing how it was that they accessed both of the scripts its modifying
you could adapt it there by then checking out a singleplayer tutorial of some kind about basic inventories

if you are really new it seems tedious.. (and it is sometimes) but totally worth it to hang in there and just learn..
(i had to learn thru trial and error mostly, and failing alot to figure out what works and what dont) 🍀

-# keeping the graphics layer seperate from the logic layer.. (graphics can be anything, at anytime and the logic will still run)

⚠️ Multiplayer is a beast tho... as a beginner I wish you fair sea's 🫡

[near wigeon]

tf is this

[storm patio]

<@&502884371011731486> scam/spam

user is online and currently handling it apparently

[storm patio]

damn, you haven't seen it before?

just another crypto scam

[near wigeon]

oh makes sense, I stay away from that crap

[safe python]

Nice try diddy

🤡

[lapis iris]

Oh waow thanks!
Do you recommend to start making a "singleplayer"-game and then converting it to multiplayer/co-op? Or start with co-op, even if it is a bit tidier?

[copper gust]

most people would recommend not starting multiplayer period

[near wigeon]

if you're gonna do multiplayer at all, converting a singleplayer to multiplayer is more difficult..

[storm patio]

learning singleplayer and then learning multiplayer with a new project would probably be easier if your endgame is multiplayer

[sour salmon]

I wonder what happened

[balmy kettle]

https://unity.huh.how/runtime-exceptions/nullreferenceexception

[sour salmon]

for some reason, it's this part

[balmy kettle]

which is line 755

[sour salmon]

if (other.GetComponent<NPC>().IsFlat) return;

[balmy kettle]

then the object that caused the trigger does not have an NPC component

[storm patio]

the other option is that other is null, but since other is received through OnTriggerEnter, and you haven't reassigned it, this is not the case

[sour salmon]

might add != null

[near wigeon]

why not just use if(other.TryGetComponent( out NPC npc) and cut half these returns

[storm patio]

TryGetComponent would clean it up nicely yeah

why do you have 2 sources of truth for if the other one is an NPC or not

you don't really need the tag if you can just check the component to see if it's an NPC

[sour salmon]

It first does check if the NPC is flat already or not

otherwise it would stack and break

[storm patio]

that isn't relevant to what i said

[sour salmon]

or just check if it has an NPC tag

so it wouldn't try to get component on everything it collides

[near wigeon]

you don't need tags if you do things by component

[storm patio]

it's less fragile from tags too

[copper gust]

If performance was ever a concern layer matrix stuff would be the route

[storm patio]

you could forget to add a tag, or you could typo it, or you could accidentally change a usage or even the tag's name, or you could accidentally add it to something that isn't an NPC, or you could set this and thus forget to set the NPC component

none of those concerns exist if you just use the NPC component itself as the source of truth

[copper gust]

and tags are awful for any potential modding

[plain dagger]

huh why is that?

its not exactly hard to get or set them

[copper gust]

you can't add any at runtime

in this specific usecase not an issue but bad habit

eg. lethal company uses tags for footstep surfaces so mods can't cleanly do the same thing

[sour salmon]

I wonder if it can also check on another scene

since using additive scenes

[copper gust]

findobject works on all scenes yeah

except HideAndDontSave

[storm patio]

if you have a single camera that you're keeping loaded, i'd use singleton references for that

ive become allergic to Find* 😆

[near wigeon]

does it work cross-sceens? could've swore it didn't

[copper gust]

it's not even scene based period afaik

no it is im dumb but it does work cross scenes i thought

must because it would come up more often with dontdestroyonload usage

[near wigeon]

I think it searches the heriarchy but don't recall how it worked if two addtive scenes are active, but yeah if anything just do a singleton if possible

[sour salmon]

If 2 cameras, then using singleton is better

[storm patio]

is that a question, or...?

[near wigeon]

what does script do? if CameraManager type thing, singleton, camera that controls other things , maybe Cinemachine cameras individually have one in each scenes then do some simple DI from manager

[sour salmon]

It just allows you to turn, look back

basically it

I had to make a coroutine to endlessly try to find it so the script won't break if it can't first try

[safe finch]

👋

[near wigeon]

https://nohello.net

[gusty abyss]

yo where is that scene thing in unity 6.0

I cant find it

where you like set the indexes

[storm patio]

build options?

[gusty abyss]

yes

[storm patio]

"scene thing" is incredibly vague lmao

[gusty abyss]

i only have profiles

[gusty abyss]

mb i dont know the term lol

its like you set the indexes for your scenes and put them there

but i cant find that

[storm patio]

it's in build options

[gusty abyss]

right just found it, thanks

[shadow heron]

I have this issue where when I crouch I can't go through small spaces when I should be able to. The height of the cc is 1 so its small enough to go through. any ideas?

[pearl oyster]

If the gap is exactly 1 unit high then it's expected that the CC doesn't fit through. There are margins like the skin width that make the actual colliding height slightly taller than the height of the CC

[shadow heron]

I adjusted the ceiling and changed the skin width 0.08 → 0.01 and its fine now

[gritty marsh]

Looking for help with this issue. Playing around with ik arms right now and as you can see sometimes they randomly disappear. And while they are not visible in the game view they are perfectly visibly in the scene view which I do not understand

[slender zodiac]

hey yall, im curious on how yall organize your projects, cause mine work... but not well

[storm patio]

you mean in terms of assets? or what exactly

[stable perch]

i want to use interpolation to smooth out some jitter that enemies in my 2d game have, however i heard that this has a performance impact. should i therefore not enable interpolation? Interpolate on all enemies that move? Something in between?

[pearl oyster]

Everything has a performance impact, that by itself means nothing. Try it, see if it performs the way you want and fits inside the target performance, measure if necessary. If everything looks ok then great, but if not only then start thinking about how to optimize it

[potent geyser]

Also, why do you think the setting would even be available if it was not meant to be used?

[deft rock]

Work out what the cause of the jittering is first

[frank pasture]

im getting this error everytime i try and open a project and im not sure what to do T.T im trying to upload avatars into vrchat but i cant open a project

[deft rock]

what did you find when you googled the error?

[frank pasture]

ive been googling it and nothing makes sense to me

[gusty abyss]

Does unity editor any version support 2K 21:9 monitors?

I got one for christmas but didn't know if its exclusive to 16:9 HD

[plain dagger]

Editor supports any resolution and game res supports many aspect ratios (or can be set to a custom resolution)

[gusty abyss]

cool didn't know if it would do the weird stretching of the entire image

[plain dagger]

Only if you make it do that

[slow dirge]

For example?

[plain dagger]

that just sounds like a broken installation

meaning a re install of the editor would fix this error

[frank pasture]

ive done that like 3 times now so im not sure what it is

[slow dirge]

For starters, it would help if you confirm that there is a shader compiler exe in that path at all.

As well as what other files are there.

[frank pasture]

im not sure how to check that im pretty new to all this sorry lol

[slow dirge]

You don't know how to open a folder in explorer?

[mint zinc]

is this area for open chat with beginners?

[slow dirge]

Not sure what that means.
If you have a unity related question then ask in any appropriate channel(could be here).

!ask

[vagrant root]

:thinking: Asking Questions

:mag: Search the internet for your question!
:book: Use the API Scripting Reference and User Manual and this troubleshooting site for commonly posted issues.
:wrench: Attempt to debug your issue.
:thought_balloon: Find an appropriate channel by reading the name and description in #🔎┃find-a-channel
:grey_question: And don't ask to ask, ask a full question illustrating with screenshots if needed.

-# For more posting guidelines, go to #🌱┃start-here

[mint zinc]

I'm fiddling with Unity for the first time. I want to explore making prefabs for Rust. I started by simple adding a Gif to an object. however I found out that, gifs do not work. So I simply tried to apply it anyways to the basic objects first shown and it's displaying the image multiple times rather than once on on side. Ive looked into the materials area which ChatGPT said to do, and make it a 1x1, but I do not see that.

[torpid cave]

how do i lower the resolution of my scene in unity shader graph

[slow dirge]

I'm not sure about Rust specifically, but game engines typically don't deal with gifs. If you need to animate a texture that's either gonna be via an animation or code that swaps the texture every frame.
Anyways,if you're a beginner, you should probably learn unity basics first.

!learn

[vagrant root]

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[slow dirge]

Shader graph doesn't control the resolution.
Youll need to do it via code.

[mint zinc]

Thank you for the info. Appreciate it.

[slow dirge]

Or the settings in the game tab(if it's just for preview)

[torpid cave]

i wanna basically make a fake depth of field by lowering the res past a certain distance, shader graph really cant do that?

[slow dirge]

That's called downsampling. And yes, you can do that, but it usually requires several passes. It's a complex effect. Not just one shader.

[torpid cave]

okay, is there a way to use depth of field without it being tied to the camera in the scene only? i wanna be able to see it at all times, flying around in editor and in game

i made a fog shader and that works fine in and out of game camera

[slow dirge]

What else do you want it to be tied with?
If it's just the scene view tab, I think you can enable post processing there as well.

[torpid cave]

oh how do i enable it to apply to scene aswell?

[torpid cave]

everything, anytime im in the scene, world editor or game camera i wanna see it

[slow dirge]

Check the scene view settings at the top right of the window.

[delicate ember]

I was hoping to use Unity's new Graph Toolkit to create some custom editor tools. (Specifically, Dialogue Trees, and Quest Graphs.) However, it seems fairly complex and not user friendly currently. (Specifically, the new to create asset importers and having to create both Editor and Runtime scripts from scratch.)

Is there any other tools that would work better?

[plain dagger]

Thats the point of graph toolkit, its a pre made solution for graph node GUI that you can use in the way you need.
You still need to make the rest

[delicate ember]

Yeah I understand that much. I don't mind coding up the nodes. However, the need to create all the extras, instead of just the nodes is a bit too much overhead for what I was hoping for.

[slow dirge]

From the look at the docs it seems to be pretty simple though..?
Nothing about asset importers and editor scripts...
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.graphtoolkit@0.4/manual/get-started-coding.html

Or am I missing something?

Ah, I see some editor code.

[delicate ember]

Reading through the docs it seems easy enough, until you actually start to use it. If you take a look at this example created by some random Youtuber I found for a state machine, you can see that you need: AssetImporter, Editor + Runtime for each node, and a lot more.

https://github.com/adammyhre/GraphToolkitStateMachine/tree/master

[mint zinc]

I figured it out, by futzing around. lol But I will look into that site you mentioned. it was under surface inputs.

[slow dirge]

I think this is just something specific to their use case. Could be wrong though.

[plain dagger]

This may be because the graph nodes are separate to whatever is used at runtime

[delicate ember]

Its not sadly. Even if you look at the same projects provided by Unity, they all contain similar setup.

[plain dagger]

The graph nodes define the node usable in that UI and thats it

If you want a graph ui for quests then you would have classes for your quest data somewhere AND the classes for the graph nodes that represent/view the quest data

[delicate ember]

Right but that's the thing, to me it seems overly complex.

I'd rather just, for example, create a "Node" Class, that overrides say, an input and output functions, then have a "OnEnter" or "OnLeave" style overrides as well that could be hooked into, and just go from there.

Instead I need to: Create the Node for the UI, Create the Node for the Runtime, Create the Graph itself, Create the Asset Importer to point everything properly to each other, then create an external script that handles everything on top of that.

[plain dagger]

The point of such a system is that this graph can represent many things that dont exactly fit this design

anyway unity decided this is how it works so there and its normal for editor only code like this to be separated in its own assembly

[torpid cave]

this? because post processing is checked and i still see no depth of field unless i go to camera view

[plain dagger]

who wants depth of field in the scene view 😐

[delicate ember]

Hence why I was asking for alternatives.

[plain dagger]

I think you are hoping for too much. whatever the graph ui represents it should work regardless of the graph ui's existence

the UI is an additional optional layer

[slow dirge]

Yeah, then I'm not sure. Perhaps they disable effects such dof in the scene view on purpose. To be honest I'm not sure why you might need it in the scene view anyway.

[slow dirge]

Maybe look for something on the asset store. There could be more narrow solutions. Like I know there are some for dialogs and other similar graph-based features.

[tepid horizon]

guys this is some of the most beautiful code ive ever seen

private void Update()
    {
        distance = Vector3.Distance(base.transform.position, player.transform.position);
        ray = Camera.main.ScreenPointToRay(Input.mousePosition);
        if (Input.GetButtonDown("Fire1") && distance < 2.5f && Physics.Raycast(ray, out var hitInfo) && hitInfo.collider.gameObject == base.gameObject)
        {
            if (PlayerPrefs.GetInt("FoodDone") == 1 && foodScript.foodInHand)
            {
                sub.ShowSubAndClose("I remembered I had to finish up on my homework");
                foodScript.FoodToSink();
                audioSource.clip = clip1;
                audioSource.Play();
            }
            else if (PlayerPrefs.GetInt("FoodDone") == 0)
            {
                sub.ShowSubAndClose("didn't have dishes to wash");
            }
        }
    }```

those first 3 lines are on every single interactable object

[plain dagger]

if we pretend the player prefs code doesnt exist maybe?

[rancid whale]

what exactly is so beautiful about it ?

[slow dirge]

Ray creation wastes a lot of cpu cycles in scenarios where distance check doesn't pass.

[exotic relic]

You can try bringing the script closer to the screen in the hierarchy

[mystic abyss]

😥 if (A && B && C && D == E) {}

[heady gorge]

this feels like a unity question
when it comes to performance, how do people make it so that certain models arent just tanking their game?

[azure grove]

you need way more details

but in short your should be using the profiler to figure out exactly what is tanking things

[plain dagger]

"Why is my framerate soo poor here"
"Oh this model is way too detailed" or "Oh this model needs LODs" or "this model sucks ass"

but yes profiler/ frame debugger is used to investigate whats happening

[heady gorge]

i was just thinking of a part of my game that was going to have a large amount of piles of books. as in lik emountains. ive seen games do something similar but all i can think is "wow that's not going to go well"

i will try the profiler

[plain dagger]

You would have lods setup for the models or ensure they are already efficient. If your game makes use of occlusion culling then it may already be fine

[azure grove]

would just make sure things are culled when not seen and lod those books so distant ones do not use a huge amount of detail

but profiler is your friend

[worldly cave]

I mean you could make a book out of 6 quads

Thats a pretty cheap overhead

But also for like "piles" you typically need the outside hull to be geometry, everything not directly visible should not exist as geometry

If performance is a concern

[azure grove]

i would first profile and test the simplest path to what you want

after that there are plenty of ways to deal with things

you just have to know of the work is worth it or not

like if its huge piles, yeah i would model the whole pile as 1 object that way you can just only model the exterior of it

[plain dagger]

SRP batcher is great so it would batch them together i bet

[azure grove]

well SRP batcher it not exactly batching the draw calls even know its named that

just greatly reduces the set pass calls where it can

as a result i would make sure to be using the same material for all your books

[plain dagger]

that is what i would also do

[azure grove]

yeah different variants could just have a UV offsets in the mesh to get texture varrations within the same material and texture

or could do some trickery to with the shader to randomize some colors or do it based on position

[plain dagger]

vertex colours are great to have different coloured books and share 1 texture

[azure grove]

just multiplying a color over can look a bit rubbish compared to other approaches. but yeah is simple and cheap

[full ingot]

Hey, I upgraded my project to a new version, and the console is filled with errors, how to solve these please ?

[mystic abyss]

heres another way you could write this, theres not so much nesting, but it is a teeny bit more complex as a trade-off

float Distance => Vector3.Distance(transform.position, player.transform.position);
Ray Ray => Camera.main.ScreenPointToRay(Input.mousePosition);

void Update() {
  var allowHit = false;
  if (Input.GetButtonDown("Fire1")) {
    TryAndHit(out allowHit); // do the raycast checks
  }

  if (!allowHit) {
    return;
  }

  if (PlayerPrefs.GetInt("FoodDone") == 1 && foodScript.foodInHand) {
    Debug.Log("Remember homework");
  }
  else if (PlayerPrefs.GetInt("FoodDone") == 0) {
    Debug.Log("Dishes are clean");
  }

  return;
    
  void TryAndHit(out bool allowed, float minDistance = 2.5f) {
    if (Distance < minDistance) {
      allowed = true;
      return;
    }

    if (!Physics.Raycast(Ray, out var hitInfo)) {
      allowed = false;
      return;
    }

    allowed = hitInfo.collider.gameObject == base.gameObject;
  }
}```

[tepid horizon]

i didnt code it, i was being satire

the main horrible thing about that is the fact that every single frame for EVERY interactable it's doing this Input.GetButtonDown and raycast and distance check

on every.. interactable

[plain dagger]

Yea I'd utilize a shader to do it better such as use alpha to mask the effect

[tepid horizon]

though i didnt know you could do that at the top

[azure grove]

yeah been a fan of gradient mapping using a alpha mask or vertex mask for stuff like this. lets you get lots of variants for little texture space but full control over the whole range and not just 1 color

[old hatch]

why is it when i stand inside this (rigid body) with my character controller it gets pushed down and jittering around, and when i exit sometimes it just gets flung

[tepid horizon]

maybe your exit position lands your player hitbox slightly inside those box colliders

[old hatch]

i thought so yeah

but how do i prevent that from happening

[tepid horizon]

change your exit position.. make your hitbox smaller..

[old hatch]

wouldnt making my hitbox smaller just do the same thing? also its not a fixed exit position im physically moving onto the little platform it has and off

[tepid horizon]

OHHH

[mystic abyss]

Expression-bodied members are a really nice feature of c#, very handy in these kind of situations. Bonus is if you needed to needed the value of Distance at many locations in that class, youve got a single place to read it from

[old hatch]

i tried making the forklift bigger as a test but it still gets flung around and jitters

[tepid horizon]

I thought you meant you were getting INTO the forklift like riding it interactively

[old hatch]

yeah i see how you couldve seen that lol supa sorry

[near wigeon]

are you setting player as grounded when in the forklift

[old hatch]

wait you can set grounded ?

i thought you could only read it

wait yeah no you can only read it wdym

[near wigeon]

you're using the built in one?

[old hatch]

yeah

[near wigeon]

ohh nvm then.. idk rigidbody is hard to get it to play nice with cc. As far as it concerned its solid wall / collider

[old hatch]

damn

i was thinking about switching the character controller to a rigid body

[near wigeon]

it will still be difficult unless you use a hinge or match velocities

thats why most characters turn static and let the thing navigate it

[old hatch]

Damn this Game development stuff is pretty hard!

or actually ykw ill just make it so the player cant go inside and ignore all the other physics bugs thats that ggs fixed!

nvm it still gets pushed 😭

[near wigeon]

you would need to let the forklift takeover controls turn the cc off / not solid and let forklift drive it

there are always tradeoffs you need to make, wanna spend days/months on a specific feature, will it enhance the gameplay for the time you put into it.. realistically?

<@&502884371011731486> spam

[warm verge]

ok

[spice plank]

does anyone know why my square sprite keeps having that glitch thingy whenever i move, seemingly random

[near wigeon]

from this video alone is hard to tell , could be anything..

also why not just use cinemachine it has good smoothing so it probably wont look as bad, my guess would be desync between movement and camera

[slow dirge]

Possibly moved in fixed update without interpolation

[old hatch]

fair enough i probably wont add the forklift anyway so im just gonna leave that as is

[short laurel]

hello yall im trying to create a block breaking overlay on the tilemap. is there a way to get shaders to draw my sprite over individual blocks for multiple sprite sheets? i have different block sheets but they use the same damage tile sprite overlay. i tried using shader graph but its not accepting multiple sheets very well

[exotic relic]

Similar to minecraft?

[short laurel]

yeah

[exotic relic]

In 3D? You mention tiles which sounds 2D. You could use a sort of overlay. With 3D, I’d do the same, use a cube object already in the screen that has a transparent texture, and keep it following the crosshair raycasted

[short laurel]

In 2D and i wont need raycasting, its like a projectile game but the point is, im struggling to get the tilemap shader to render properly.

[exotic relic]

Would you happen to be able to detect the block health? Any damaged block could have a image overlayed above the blocks that has a crack image

[short laurel]

Yeah i can find out the damage and apply a shader there, but the shaders blue

[exotic relic]

I personally don’t see the use in a shader covering it, if you know the blocks health and have a tiling system so that the game knows where a block goes, you could place a image right above it which has the required crack level

A player in 2D won’t know the difference

[short laurel]

Right. So would i place a gameobject in that case? Or is there a way to place a sprite and just the sprite

[exotic relic]

Gameobject. Which has an image on it and you can set that image to whichever you need. You can either use array of images or just hard code 1,2,3 slots.
Instantiate at the block location which in 2D will make it look like it’s cracking

That’s my personal opinion on setup. Debugging all that health and so you’d start to realize how that can piece together.

Unless someone else responds with some sort of 2D shader lol.

[short laurel]

Gotcha, i can do that. Thank you!

[karmic plover]

does anyone know why the tile palette tiles have weird dimensions? 😢 nvm fixed it :D

[forest zenith]

couldn't find specific channel for my question, so. how gameobject works? can i literally make anything with only using gameobject and it's components?

i'm currently going through a tutorial on how to create a scene or smth. i literally made a ball in one GameObject and a few components. in godot you would need about 3 nodes to make something like that, and if all of a sudden you dont need it to be a physical ball but a statue for example, you would recreate the whole scene tree. i've never worked with something like that

[slow dirge]

Yes. GameObjects are just containers for components with a position, rotation and a parent-child relationship.

[full ingot]

Anything that you can put in the scene is a GameObject, and depending the components you add to it it makes that GameObject have an appearance and a behaviour 🙂 https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/GameObject.html

[forest zenith]

i see

[full ingot]

If I'm not mistaking, it's the equivalent of a "Node" in Godot

[forest zenith]

yeah yeah you're correct

[forest zenith]

do you have any advice for me to learn C# in future?

[full ingot]

What kind of advice are you looking for ?

[forest zenith]

well, how to learn it fast i think

[full ingot]

is it your first programming language ?

[forest zenith]

nope

like second or third

but previous two were alike

[full ingot]

Check this video : https://youtu.be/qZpMX8Re_2Q
And this website : https://www.w3schools.com/cs/index.php

[forest zenith]

thank you

i wish there were tutorials for advanced programmers to skip topics of sort: what is a variable and stuff ;DD

[slow dirge]

You could read the official manual and skip stuff that is obvious to you.

[forest zenith]

bruh how could i forgot that

thank you

[burnt iron]

Hi, quick question if i want to make a cape should i model the exterior and interior, or can i do it one sided without the backface turning invisible?

Or is there a way to texture the back faces?

[analog pebble]

Hello, does anyone know of a way to prevent a second project tab from swapping to whatever you're working with in a separate project tab?

I figured it might be helpful to keep a second tab to quickly access assets while I use the first one to swap between prefabs, but it's giving me trouble, any advice?

I think I figured it out, right clicking the tab and clicking "lock" seemed to help

[slow dirge]

Generally you need both faces. You can render the back faces if your shader allows it, but it would likely miss a lot of stuff, like correct lighting.

[violet thunder]

I dont remember having issues with double sided rendering, at least in HDRP

Might need to tweak the normals setting for the backfaces though

Now that i think of it, if you have to animate the cape, its probably wiser to use double sided rendering

[slow dirge]

Hmm... Donno. Maybe the hdrp shaders are recalculating the vertex normals for back faces.🤔

[violet thunder]

Cuts down the skinning process by half

[violet thunder]

Yeah could very well be a HDRP thing. Been a while since i touched anything else

[burnt iron]

thank you

[novel scarab]

zealous_star_47028 was softbanned.

[kindred sierra]

may i ask something? and where should i ask if i got a problems?

[crisp phoenix]

yo

[kindred sierra]

i tried to fix this problem but i still cant get fixed

[crisp phoenix]

nothings working

[crisp phoenix]

#1390346827005431951

[kindred sierra]

thanks

[spice plank]

i do use cinemachine. the code is a simple velocity change in regular update

like
player.rb2D.velocity = vector2input * movementVelocityFloat

[violet thunder]

So does your rigidbody have interpolation enabled or no?

[whole gyro]

next project make 3d person unit selection and movement

[barren nacelle]

For some reason I can’t use the older versions of unity I have on my pc, every time I try to load it, it gives an error

Anybody know why?

[violet thunder]

What error

That's pretty relevant

[barren nacelle]

It says something about a security issue, I can’t tell u exactly what it says because I can’t acces my pc rn

[violet thunder]

Ask again when you have that info

How old unity versions we talking about?

[barren nacelle]

Ok

[barren nacelle]

2022, and the 6000.ver

[forest zenith]

why do my Unity keep opening in administrator mode, i can't open it in user mode

i press this, but it either doesn't open, or i need to continue with administator user

[slow dirge]

Did you open the hub as admin?

[forest zenith]

nope

[slow dirge]

How are you opening the editor?

[slow dirge]

And the editor? Via the hub?

[forest zenith]

oh the editor

yeah with the hub

i tried either way

it's like i only have administartor user and dont have standart one

[slow dirge]

Where are the hub/editor installed? As well as where is the project located?

[violet thunder]

Nooo! Not the brick... 😩

[forest zenith]

dude

the user that im in rn, is administrator

i dont have standart one lol

i just checked that

[forest zenith]

this one happens when you reinstall your pc to a compact version, gotta be careful i guess

[forest zenith]

so, creating a standart user didn't change a thing

i still cant run it in standart user

[storm patio]

if you right click on unity hub, do you get options like "run" and separately "run as administrator"?

[forest zenith]

yes i tried this too

[cursive marsh]

Hi

[gusty abyss]

does anyone know a way to test out steam relay with a single computer?

you can't really have two steam accounts open at the same time

[plain dagger]

Virtual machine?

[slow dirge]

Where is your project located?

[forest zenith]

Up there

[slow dirge]

That's not the project.

[forest zenith]

it's inside that folder

[slow dirge]

Can you give the actual path as it's displayed in unity hub?

[forest zenith]

oh okay

[slow dirge]

OK, so it's not inside the unity hub dir.

[forest zenith]

yep i guess

[slow dirge]

But anyways, this dir should be fine.

[forest zenith]

yeah it's not

[slow dirge]

I guess, try opening a project scene(.unity file) directly and see if that changes anything.

[forest zenith]

where's the .unity file usually located inside project?

[slow dirge]

In the assets. Possible assets/scenes

But generally, wherever you saved it. The sample scene should be in assets/scenes I think.

[forest zenith]

get this when press outlined button

[violet thunder]

Check the

!logs

[vagrant root]

📝 Logs

Documentation

Editor logs

Windows: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Unity\Editor\Editor.log
MacOS: ~/Library/Logs/Unity/Editor.log
Linux: ~/.config/unity3d/Editor.log

Unity Hub

Windows: %UserProfile%\AppData\Roaming\UnityHub\logs
Mac: ~/Library/Application support/UnityHub/logs
Linux: ~/.config/UnityHub/logs

[slow dirge]

I feel like there's an issue with your editor install.

Checking the logs might reveal more.

[forest zenith]

checking rn

that's all i see

i sent a bug report with unity bug reporter, hope to get feedback

[slow dirge]

The relevant info should be lower down towards the bottom..

[slow dirge]

That's unlikely.

[slow dirge]

Look for a message like "Crash!"

[forest zenith]

only that

it's above the previous screenshot

cuz there's nothing below

[forest zenith]

and it's not even the thing

[violet thunder]

What's in the very bottom?

Oh

Those are the last lines?

[forest zenith]

debug of me closing the window, nothing much

[forest zenith]

no the first ones

[slow dirge]

That's weird. I guess it's worth looking at the hub logs as well.

[forest zenith]

the StartBugReportOnCrash is not the thing

[slow dirge]

I guess checking the earlier messages could also be helpful to understand why it launches in admin mode.

[forest zenith]

oh wait

i got something

[forest zenith]

so when i closed the window it would proceed to load as admin and overwrite the log

i didn't close but opened the logs and it's now have a lot of errors

"-acceptSoftwareTermsForThisRunOnly" what's this arg

[forest zenith]

nope no errors

[forest zenith]

first line

[slow dirge]

Hmm... No clue what that arg is or if it's even relevant.
I'd check the hub logs at this point as well. I think it might be the one launching the editor.

[heavy granite]

hi

[safe garden]

Hi guys hope you all had a good xmas 👍🏻 have any of you used the BlackBox addon for prefabs, do you find it useful? Seems quite tidy to me

[short grove]

Yall trying to import a mesh from blender into unity
getting this error when I go to extract textures. anyone know whats goin on with it?

[safe garden]

what are you using to export the mesh from Unity? typically I will use FBX exporter

[wheat grotto]

How to make when I press E the door opens?

[plain dagger]

most would fire a raycast when a key is pressed to try to locate an interactable object (such as a door) and then tell it to open

ask in #💻┃code-beginner

[wheat grotto]

thank you

[short grove]

I export from Blender to Unity with these settings

which i did the path mode right im just confused on why I cant get the textures in unity rn

this is unity 6.0.53f1

[safe garden]

@short grove how do you mean you can't get textures in, usually you just drag a PNG into project folder and it appears 🤔

I will also use the ACT plugin with Blender to export to unity, I don't usually do an FBX export

but if you have textures applied to the model I usually just drag them in separately, I never really have them applied in Blender and have them all come into unity together

[violet thunder]

So when you click Extract Textures it gives that error and nothing happens?

[short grove]

Usually on other versions since the textures packed in blender and it works out in Unity

[short grove]

Yeah basicall
gives me some error about a serialize error

[safe garden]

that does sound more efficient yea, I'll have to try that out as typically I would bring in a mesh and textures from substance painter or something with a separate export

[short grove]

the warning is unrelated fyi

[violet thunder]

Well its a unity error so i dont know if you can do anything about it, but try resetting the layout and restarting unity

Or a different unity version

[short grove]

Yeah thats not happening

Strange ill try some other things but restarting hasnt been cutting it

It could also just be abad export on blender’s side causethe FBX files dont have the texture in theunity dropdown

But im jnsure if thats supposed to befixed by extracting

[violet thunder]

If you right click the mesh in project window and go > Reimport

Does it print anything in the console?

[short grove]

I did reimport all just now ill try again in a bit

[violet thunder]

Don't need to reimport all

You can reimport a single asset

Just wondering if it prints errors when you do that

[short grove]

reimport works fine no errors

Question is the texture itslef supposed to show up here?

Cause im thinking I probably just skipped one step in the workflow when it comes to exporting

Yeah alright I see
The textures needed to be unpacked in blender not to the blend file

[tropic halo]

help! I get this error every time i open any project, This started to happen after my hard-drive broke (specifically K:/), I've tried everything from deleting the cache to deleting all folder's related to unity in the AppData folder and reinstalling everything! (I use an old version of unity because i mod a game that uses this specific version)

[storm patio]

try resetting the library perhaps

[tropic halo]

like deleting the libary folder in the project?

did that already

[heavy granite]

does someone know how to fix my license activation not saving?

[near wigeon]

maybe check logs ?

[slow dirge]

This seems like a broken installation. Can you check if that com.unity.2d.path-2.1.1.thz file exists?

[tropic halo]

i don't think its a broken installation because i reinstalled everything like 2 times, also that file exists, if it helps you when i delete it and remove it from the manifest.json file i get the same error, just from a different file

[slow dirge]

Ah, actually reading the error again, it's not about that file, but it seems to be an error when it tries to create a directory \\?.
I'd check the logs for more info on where that comes from and why it tries to create a directory at such path.

looking at the manifset.json file might also reveal some clues.

[tropic halo]

where do i find the log files tho?

[slow dirge]

!logs

[vagrant root]

📝 Logs

Documentation

Editor logs

Windows: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Unity\Editor\Editor.log
MacOS: ~/Library/Logs/Unity/Editor.log
Linux: ~/.config/unity3d/Editor.log

Unity Hub

Windows: %UserProfile%\AppData\Roaming\UnityHub\logs
Mac: ~/Library/Application support/UnityHub/logs
Linux: ~/.config/UnityHub/logs

[tropic halo]

doubleThumbs

[wind escarp]

omg osana najimi, what's wrong?

this is my project where i test some assets

before using it

[dusky forum]

Should probably be posted in #1180170818983051344

[tropic halo]

ah in the log files theres alot of mentions of the old unity path in my old harddrive

so i guess it's trying to access those files

i dont know how to make it stop tho

[slow dirge]

Try reinstalling the hub

[tropic halo]

did that already

sadJoe

[slow dirge]

Maybe check if you have that path anywhere in the env variables.

It might also be in the registry. Or in your project config somewhere. Does the issue happen with new projects?

[tropic halo]

yep happens to all projects

[tropic halo]

where's that?

[slow dirge]

Environment variables. Google it.

[tropic halo]

these?

[slow dirge]

Yes

[tropic halo]

i cant find any path that has K:/

[slow dirge]

Pay attention to variables like PATH. These would contain many values. Click "edit" to see all of them.

[tropic halo]

I checked most of them, couldn't find a directory with K:/ tho

[slow dirge]

OK, then it's not there. Either the registry or somewhere else.

It's kinda hard to say anything as you didn't share any info whatsoever.

[tropic halo]

where in the registry tho?

[slow dirge]

That I don't know. You'll need to Google.

Possibly somewhere like this:
HKCU\Software\Unity Technologies\UnityEditor <version>

[tropic halo]

wait i think i found the K:/ path, but it's for an edtior version i don't use anymore :/

im gonna try changing it anyway

[tropic halo]

didn't work, also tried searching for every K:/ path in the registery and changed each one related to unity and it didn't work :(

[rancid helm]

hi! how to put the world space rendered canvas above the tree model?

[ionic rover]

Lol I have just found out that I can multiply and divide in transform

[plain dagger]

you can do maths in any numerical input field

[flat breach]

hello guys, what's the best way to make a player(sphere) that would automatically go forward and roll and would just have a left and right input with A-D to go to the left or right only? I'd like him to have gravity too

[storm patio]

there's no best, but there's several ways to do so

for example, using a rigidbody that you keep adding torque to, a rigidbody you apply gravity to while on a slope, etc
applying forces or torques to rotate

all depends on your intended levels, the feeling/control you want to have, etc

[flat breach]

yee that's what I thought, I'll try to find a tutorial on this thank you.

[gusty abyss]

move the z

increase it

[worn wind]

Hi uhm, I just opened one of new Unity 3d for game project uhm, any solution for these?

[balmy kettle]

make sure all packages are up to date in the package manager then restart. if it persists then close the editor, delete the Library folder from within your project folder, then open the editor again

[worn wind]

.-.

[worn wind]

I try...

[balmy kettle]

also note that the security alert you are seeing on that version is entirely unrelated to the error you are seeing in the unity console. though you should ideally update to a patched version

[worn wind]

Alright

Ah, when the Unity 6.3 come out? Just recently?

[balmy kettle]

#📢┃announcements message

[worn wind]

Alright, thanks, maybe install new unity 6.3 will make things better

[plucky bobcat]

how do you do pixel alignment in unity? I can't align my sprites properly

the grid snapping thing doesn't work because my sprites are too small

[potent geyser]

You use the pixel perfect camera package to have sprites align correctly

[plucky bobcat]

it's a package?

[potent geyser]

I think I used the word package, yes.

[plucky bobcat]

oh

h u h

I see

[storm patio]

with lining things up in the scene? you'd use grid snapping for that, make sure you're using the right tool to respect that setting

ive been using it just fine

[plucky bobcat]

Grid snapping doesn’t work either

The grids are just too big

And apparently you can’t adjust their size either

I don’t know why

[balmy kettle]

you don't need to adjust the grid size. you adjust the pixels per unit setting on your textures to better match the grid size

[plucky bobcat]

I can try

But it’s a little difficult to get the measurements right

I tried setting PPU to 16 since that’s the measurements I used for aseprite

[balmy kettle]

no it isn't. you choose how many pixels you would like to equal one grid unit in length then set that as the ppu

[plucky bobcat]

Where do I see that in?

[balmy kettle]

see what? the only thing you need to "see" here is the PPU setting, which you've claimed to have set before so surely you know where that is

[storm patio]

mb, i misremembered. i use increment snapping in my own project, and ive set the increment to 1/ppu

[fair cove]

Assuming your trying to do this through code, you could get the MeshRenderer or collider bounds to find out the "top" of the tree, then add a offset to position it where youd like above it - and if you mean just in the editor, you should be able to move the world space canvas

[cyan lion]

how to change size of an apv

it automatically makes a huge apv on baking which is not required

[storm patio]

i googled this and got this manual article
https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/Manual/urp/probevolumes-changedensity.html

is that the apv you're referring to

[cyan lion]

yeah

will it be same for hdrp as well

the one you sent seems to be tagged with urp

[storm patio]

probably not

you need to provide context like that upfront, man

adding hdrp to my query yields https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@17.0/manual/probevolumes-use.html

there's a section on configuring them at the bottom

[storm sierra]

Does unity have any form of servers like AWS?

[storm patio]

i believe through unity cloud, yeah

it's not gonna be like aws though, it's gonna be specific to unity

[storm sierra]

Okay

[cyan lion]

and also it seems to create a huge volume even when it is just a small room. you sent how to adjust probe spacing. but at this point i can dig up docs myself

is it normal though

i just have one small room and baking apv generated a huge collection of probes

[storm patio]

you might have to ask #1390346776804069396 about that

[narrow idol]

Hey, so I noticed that my macbook boots up unity WAYYY faster than my PC. I was looking into why, I have an NVMe m.2 SSD and it has pretty high numbers for speeds, so I didn't think it was that. I dug around a bit and people said that it's a CPU bottleneck because of how unity loads all its lil files I guess?

I have a Ryzen 7 3700x right now, and I was willing to make a big jump. BUT, I discovered the newer CPUs are bonkers because of AM5, and I'd need a new motherboard, which like, fine? BUT then I realize, the new motherboards require DDR5 ram which LOL not right now

so I'm wondering, does anyone know if the Ryzen 7 5800x would help me out here, it's AM4

[turbid glade]

my Unity hub installation is failing to start and just giving me a: Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/app/bin/start-unityhub", line 72, in <module>
main()
File "/app/bin/start-unityhub", line 46, in main
tree = ElementTree.parse(prefs)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/lib/python3.12/xml/etree/ElementTree.py", line 1204, in parse
tree.parse(source, parser)
File "/usr/lib/python3.12/xml/etree/ElementTree.py", line 569, in parse
self._root = parser._parse_whole(source)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
xml.etree.ElementTree.ParseError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 113, column 22

[grave hornet]

Does anyone have idea how to make labels for polygons like Europa Universalis IV or Age of History III have for province names? I don't even know how to search that

[turbid glade]

these python tracebacks are completely useless for figuring out whats going wrong 🙁

[charred fog]

what OS are you using??

[plain dagger]

since when did hub use python wut

and its an xml parse error

[turbid glade]

using the Flatpak on Debian 13

[plain dagger]

use TMP text

[tawny quail]

If you are able to make a path for the country/region shape, you can do a text-along-curve deform like this: https://discussions.unity.com/t/curved-text-along-a-custom-path/836700/2 (message after talks about the TMP specific deform)

[charred fog]

#1249155543264657408

[safe garden]

anyone here who's done VFX, what is the best way to get started in VFX in Unity? I come from a background in Unreal where I dabbled in Niagara, is there a similar system for unity, or is vfx graph what everyone uses? I know there's amplify but that's a material editor

[grave hornet]

Thanks!

[plain dagger]

amplify is a third party shader node editor (we do not call shaders "materials" over in unity)

[violet thunder]

Particle System is the older system, works on the CPU, simpler to set up
VFX Graph is a more modern system, mostly GPU, more flexible, graph based

[plain dagger]

vfx graph is not supported on all platforms but is on most high end ones

[charred fog]

Make sure you are using supported one, and ask for details in #🐧┃linux or Unity discussions forums dedicated thread.

system requirements pinned there as well

[violet thunder]

Oh man VFX Graph is still in preview for URP
Nvm I was on an older page

[safe garden]

just wanted to ask as my team is looking for a vfx artist, thought I'd try get a jump on learning it (obviously gonna take time though)

[plucky bobcat]

mb *set

autocorrect on phone is annoying

I've set it here for my sprite, I was assuming you meant for the canvas

Unity UI is 100% my opp rn

[balmy kettle]

I was assuming you meant for the canvas
well no, it was implied you were referring to sprite renderers because at no point did you say any of this was for UI

[storm patio]

is the canvas in worldspace or screenspace

[plucky bobcat]

screen space

[storm patio]

you'd basically be on a different grid then

[plucky bobcat]

My bad, I assumed the question implied that it was a canvas/UI related issue

[plucky bobcat]

Oh

I’m not really sure how the UI works

What’s the difference?

[storm patio]

huh, how does maintaining pixelart on a canvas even work, in terms of avoiding mixels or whatever...

[storm patio]

about... everything?

they are still objects, but

• the space is different (screenspace vs worldspace)
• positioning is different (RectTransforms vs Transforms)
• the components are different (eg Image vs SpriteRenderer)
• the layering is different (hierarchy vs sorting layers)

you still use Sprites, i guess?

unless you use RawImage, which uses Texture2D

[plucky bobcat]

I’m probably using sprites, yeah

[storm patio]

you would be using Sprites if you're using Images, that wasn't a question

[plucky bobcat]

Oh

Hold on

[forest zenith]

in what cases it is really critical to use Unity as administator user?

[balmy palm]

In a string i "\n" pushes text to the next colum. Are there other \letter comments in a string you can type in c# to achieve other effects? for example perhaps changing the font size?

[storm patio]

not fontsize, that's not something that exists in a string
you can use different tags that unity knows about for something like that though

[plucky bobcat]

wait, im confused

how do you even snap pixels properly in the canvas

[balmy palm]

Good to know that it's possibile. i'll have to check that out then.

[dense reef]

@plucky bobcat You need to use pixelperfect camera I think

[plucky bobcat]

okay ill install that in a bit

[dense reef]

URP have it

[storm patio]

\x is called an escape sequence, c# has quite a few - you can look them up
they don't do specific things, rather they are specific things
for example \n represents a line feed, ascii 0A, the character that you get when you press enter

to modify styling, for example in a string used by tmp, you can use a rich text tag, eg <size> for font size
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.textmeshpro@3.2/manual/RichText.html

[balmy palm]

I see. so they execute input or preexisting codes?

[storm patio]

no clue tbh. you can set the canvas to pixel perfect, that'll probably help, but not sure if it's sufficient

[plucky bobcat]

unity hates pixels huh

[storm patio]

not sure what you're asking here tbh

[storm patio]

...not really?

i just said i don't know, not that it's obtuse or hard

[balmy palm]

It's pretty simply to use luckily.

[plucky bobcat]

it was more of a joke than anything serious - I just find that Unity isn't super friendly for pixels as far as my (shallow) experience goes

usually for any other software I'd assume that grid sizes can be adjusted for snapping

but that's not how Unity plays

[balmy palm]

Just don't set the privot point to pixels in the sprite editor. that messes up with the pixel display on objects

[storm patio]

it can

but that grid exists in worldspace

not in screenspace

the problem here is that it's UI, not that it's pixelart lol

[plucky bobcat]

oh yeah you're right

hold on this is even more confusing now

[storm patio]

what do you mean by "to pixels" here? setting an appropriate pivot is a pretty good step to take

[plucky bobcat]

aseprite uses "px" and I have no clue how that translates in Unity

[storm patio]

(why is this in UI anyways? this looks like a character sprite)

[storm patio]

px is an abbreviation for pixels

the first P in PPU also stands for pixels

[plucky bobcat]

yeah, but 1 px is different than whatever unity uses

from what im seeing

unless im blind

i probably am

[storm patio]

PPU determines how many pixels of the texture fit in a unit of worldspace

[storm patio]

you're probably just seeing UI shenanigans

screenspace is also in screen pixels

[plucky bobcat]

what else should it be? I don't see any other option other than "sprite" that could work

[balmy palm]

You can try it yourself. Add the pixel perfect component to the camera and then set a sprites pivot point to pixels. If it's a moving object then it'll cause sub pixeling where the sprite displays in a messed up way

[storm patio]

you would have it in worldspace, using a spriterenderer

[storm patio]

i can't try it for myself when i don't know what you mean by "to pixels" lmao

do you mean like, in the middle of a pixel?

or what?

[plucky bobcat]

im

seriously confused

why would I need a spriterenderer when i can just assign the sprite image to the sprite itself

[storm patio]

no clue what you're referring to there

[plucky bobcat]

you said I would have "it" in the worldspace using a spriterenderer

I don't know what you're referring to by "it" and I don't know why I'd use a spriterenderer

[storm patio]

a Sprite is just the image data
to render that to the camera, you need a component to do so - that's (usually) either SpriteRenderer for gameplay objects, in worldspace, or Image for UI objects in screenspace

[balmy palm]

You use a spriteRenderer to display a sprite in a gameobject.

Yeah. exactly

[storm patio]

having things be in worldspace is much more convenient (and performant) for gameplay objects

[plucky bobcat]

wait so

if I have to use spriterenderer to render it to a camera

oh wait

i am using spriterenderer

nvm

i thought i needed to render it in a script

[balmy palm]

Yeah, i know i'm being very vague but here it is.

the pivot point can be set to pixels

which causes weird display with the pixel camera

[storm patio]

well, pivot units, not the pivot itself - that's mainly why i was confused

i don't think i've noticed or thought about that option before ngl

that's weird though, i'd expect it to be better. it'd certainly be more convenient than setting the normalized position

[plucky bobcat]

also, where do I find snap settings again

unity forums says that it's moved to the overlay bar

[balmy palm]

Fair, it's just a pivot point grid snap. I once turned it on and forgot, and my sprites where displaying wrong in pixel camera, took me a good waste of an hour to realize something so simple

[plucky bobcat]

i have the overlay bar open but there's only the grid and snap settings tick box

[storm patio]

actually, it doesn't change anything in the file itself

[plucky bobcat]

oh wait i see it nvm

[storm patio]

that unit dropdown just changes how the pivot position is displayed in the editor, and it's global
it doesn't change any data in the file, so you probably were seeing the effect of something else

[safe garden]

any idea why my shader graph is missing this function, Support VFX graph?

[plucky bobcat]

okay unity ui is

[balmy palm]

Yeah, i think it just changed the pivot point to not be centered if the sprite isn't symmetrical since it only snaps to pixel units

[plucky bobcat]

so inconvenient

[balmy palm]

Causing the pivot point to be off center

[plucky bobcat]

where's the snap all axes option

it's in the pixel perfect documentation but various unity updates have thrown it out the window

[storm patio]

your sprite had an odd number of pixels?

that doesn't affect it, the pivot point can be at a non-integer amount of pixels, and changing the unit doesn't automatically snap the pivot

[potent moss]

is this a real thing

[storm patio]

it makes dragging the pivot point snap, but the values aren't limited to integer values

[storm patio]

yes, it's called commercial licensing

https://unity.com/products

[balmy palm]

No, it wasn’t a odd number that’s the thing. So the pivot point was a digit higher to the right which caused double pixeling on the left side of the sprite

[storm patio]

no clue what you're talking about anymore

a sprite being symmetric has no effect on this

what you're describing is just.. not a thing

[balmy palm]

It does when the privot point is offcentered which happens when you set the pivot point to pixel mode.

[storm patio]

which happens when you set the pivot point to pixel mode.
this is incorrect

[shadow heron]

Is it a good idea making unique head bob movements by manually animating it via animator?

[storm patio]

it's not even really "pixel mode", it's just how you show the units of the pivot position
the actual value/actual position doesn't change

[balmy palm]

Yes but since it only snaps to pixel units, if the pixels width or height isn’t a odd number it can cause issues

[storm patio]

it snaps when you drag the pivot, it is not limited to integer values

the pivot being between pixels is perfectly fine - it's what you get when the pivot is centered on a sprite that has even width/height

[balmy palm]

It’s not between pixels. That’s the problem

It’s on a pixel

[storm patio]

so it's an odd-sized sprite?

[balmy palm]

Exactly

[storm patio]

you're just contradicting yourself at this point

you just said it wasn't

[balmy palm]

Wait no it’s not a odd sized sprite

[storm patio]

even-sized sprites just wouldn't have anything close to this problem

[balmy palm]

They will, if you set the camera to pixel mode and set the pivot to pixels.

[storm patio]

i'd get it if odd-sized sprites did, but realistically i'd expect them to be handled just fine - it's not like the actual positions in gameplay will align with pixels anyways

[storm patio]

setting the pivot units to pixels does not do anything

the pivotpoint being offcenter is not a weird edge case either, that's how pivots work

[balmy palm]

Well appearently it does.

[storm patio]

i don't doubt that you encountered whatever problem you had. but this is definitely not the cause

[storm patio]

did it affect every single sprite you had?

[balmy palm]

It is. And that’s how i solved it

[balmy palm]

No.

[storm patio]

the pivot units setting is global, thus it is not the culprit

[balmy palm]

I debugged and it was the pivot point

[storm patio]

sure, that sounds.. at least more reasonable

the pivot units just.. doesn't have anything to do with the pivot point, really

[balmy palm]

It’ll be “believable” when you see it for yourself.

[storm patio]

it changes how you see a number

[storm patio]

this is just religious talk lmao 😂

[balmy palm]

Okay that gavet me a chuckle.

I won’t deny that

I’ll be back after a shower, i can send a quick video.

[storm patio]

it's clear to me now that you're just stuck in your confirmation bias. clearly you aren't grasping what pivot units actually does
nor even that the center of a even-sized sprite is between pixels
so, i'm not gonna engage in this bs further

[balmy palm]

Okay? How about this then? I’ll record a video without the bug and simply change the pivot point and show you the aftermath

In one recording session

If it DOES

Have pixel problems then you gotta admit it was the truth, eitherway it’s something barely relevant to anything really.

[storm patio]

i just tested myself and it doesn't happen, even with a pivot at 24.4 pixels

i use pixelart myself

Upscale Render Texture appears to have an effect. it might be that

i don't think you should use that, just pixel snapping is fine

[river pumice]

ios anyone a master at using playfab

[cinder laurel]

More of a meta channel question. Is there a way on mobile to edit the featured image on my project thread? The project has grown in the last few months, but the thumb is stuck as the initial boring greybox I used haha.

[storm patio]

!ask https://dontasktoask.com

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[river pumice]

!ask

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[storm patio]

you were not supposed to do that

read the bot message

[river pumice]

ive tried

everything

[storm patio]

iirc it takes images from the initial message, but you can't add attachments afaik, you'd have to upload it somewhere where it then gets embedded from a link, and then you can edit that link into your message

[storm patio]

you haven't even said what your issue is

[plain nest]

hello guys

am new

to game dev in unity

[storm patio]

hi, this is not a social space
https://nohello.net

[plain nest]

ohh ok

[storm patio]

if you have a question you're free to ask

[plain nest]

ok

[river pumice]

well bacically i have added a new studio for my game on playfab called monkey world i go on unity log into play fab i have correct sdk but i press add new title i press on override to change it to my game name and my game title/name is not there?

[storm patio]

!collab

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[plain nest]

ok

[river pumice]

@storm patio well bacically i have added a new studio for my game on playfab called monkey world i go on unity log into play fab i have correct sdk but i press add new title i press on override to change it to my game name and my game title/name is not there?

[storm patio]

you did not have to spam it again

have a little patience please - i didn't answer because i don't know.
but now that you've asked, if someone drops by who does know, they'll be able to answer

[balmy palm]

I'm abit late. But do you want me to send you a video of it, or just leave it at that perhaps if you don't want to talk about it anymore?

[storm patio]

yknow what, sure, let's see it

[balmy palm]

alright.

[crisp crest]

Anyone able to help me if i screenshare? I'm making a game for a game jam
Basically when my dragon touches light, i want it's health bar to go down. I have different images for the health bar for when it loses health. the triggers work, but the bar changing to another bar isn't working

[storm patio]

we don't have vc for a reason - it's an ephemeral way to give information

have you debugged if your health is going down, to start?

[crisp crest]

yes that works

[storm patio]

are you getting any errors, etc - and have you debugged to see if the code that should swap the healthbar is being reached

[crystal timber]

guys can someone explain why is it everytime I go into playmode unity gets stuck on reloading domain?

[crisp crest]

i'm not getting any errors and yeah the code is being reached

[jolly ledge]

yo quick question, are microstutters in the preview normal? im new and just wanna make sure

[humble needle]

Hey.. Very simple question, is it possible to align the scale of one object's edge to anothers using either just scale or rect? or is there any sort of plugin that makes this easier? So it becomes more like the second image but with perfect alignment?

[balmy palm]

Well, you were right, it's not happening. I won't sugarcoat it either, you were just right.

[tawny quail]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/Manual/PositioningGameObjects.html scroll down near the bottom to Vertex Snapping

[humble needle]

I think this only covers position.. I haven't ever been able to make vertex snapping work with scale only position?

[storm patio]

it mightve been this #💻┃unity-talk message if you had that enabled and perhaps changed the pivot - that's my best guess as to what happened
i tried that option and i noticed spritedata definitely being changed

i don't doubt that you had that issue (just pretty sure pivots aren't the root cause), so, yeah that's my best guess

[humble needle]

I'm trying to fill the gap on the right to fit perfectly

While also keeping the left perfectly aligned, so basically align the edges using scale

[balmy palm]

Eitherway, i'm sorry for bothering you with that.

I now feel pretty bad about it.

knowing that i was wrong.

[storm patio]

being wrong is a part of life

[plain dagger]

Ideally you build geometry in 3d software or use pro builder in unity instead of whatever you are trying to do now

Then you can make pieces round sizes that are easier to place

[humble needle]

Nah I can't. It's for SCP Secret Lab which only uses primitives

If it's impossible then it's fine and I'll just deal with it

[plain dagger]

then correct the scale used on other pieces and make use of vertex snapping to position the objects

If its modding then you cannot ask in this server

[humble needle]

It's not modding, just primatives

[plain dagger]

a cube is 1x1x1 so its not hard to correct this...

[humble needle]

I think there's some miscommunication

It's fine though. If there isn't a tool or plugin to make this easier then that's all I was wondering so thank you

[plain dagger]

I know of no tool to measure vert distances

Its just confusing to be limited to scaling cubes and not be a mod

[plucky bobcat]

also a good opportunity to learn

maybe this question is better for unity forums

[safe garden]

anyone know why I seem to be missing this menu in Unity? I have VFX graph enabled but don't see it

I only seem to have visual scripting

[vivid cedar]

1. Double check that the package is installed and up to date
2. Make sure you don't have any compile errors in your console

[potent moss]

hi how would you do the 2d camera panning thing some fnaf games do in unity?

[vivid cedar]

show an example?

[potent moss]

this thing

idrk how to explain it cuz gifs get auto modded

[vivid cedar]

just move the camera

or move the sprite

unless it's actually a rotation of the camera

in which case, rotate the camera

[ocean locust]

hi chat

I have a question

[silent mica]

Should be able to use gifs as long as they aren't hosted on Tenor.

[storm patio]

!ask

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[storm patio]

☝️we can't answer without knowing the question 😉

[ocean locust]

it's not a programming thing necessarily, ill try to explain

[storm patio]

good thing this server isn't only for programming

[ocean locust]

I want my entire game world to be grid based.
the closest thing I can think of is animal crossing new horizons?
i don't want voxel based or anything like Minecraft, and (most of) the terrain won't be editable. the grid is both there for my purposes as a level/world designer, and for consistency+aesthetics

not everything will conform strictly to the grid, ie there'll be slanted/sloped pieces that occupy half of a grid space, and I want players to be able to place items (furniture) within smaller grid spaces.

so, the grid will be 1x1m, and players will be able to place within a smaller 'sub grid' of 0.5x0.5m, plus a center point of each grid space

for context on the aesthetics: it's very n64 inspired. harvest moon, ocarina of time, animal crossing n64. 3d, mostly top-down perspective with the option of a more traditional 3rd person camera

[vivid cedar]

This is a statement, not a question

What's the question?

[ocean locust]

how do I do this, is the question

[vivid cedar]

Use a grid of some kind, presumably. You can use Unity's built-in Grid component as the basis, or write your own

the math is generally pretty simple for a basic rectangular grid.

[ocean locust]

that's... so obvious, I'm sorry lol

i probably should've looked there first 😭

another question, probably a harder answer. if i want my game to have optional co op, what should I be doing from step 1 to make sure that won't be a major stumbling point later on?

for co op, I want:
each player's customisable homes to be accessible
each player's character customisation to be visible
only the host's exterior customisation to be visible
quests only able to be started by the host, but progression saving across all players
players being able to be in the same overworld at the same time

[vivid cedar]

first define what "co-op" means. DO you mean network co-op?

Any networked multiplayer game needs to be designed with networking in mind from the ground up

[ocean locust]

yes, online co op. peer to peer

[vivid cedar]

what this means depends heavily on the level of network interactivity you are going for. If it's just "players can visit each other's houses by themselves" that's a lot simpler than "players can run around together in the game world in real time"

[ocean locust]

yes, I want players in the same world. edited the original message to be more specific

[vivid cedar]

Then you need to build your game on a networking framework from the beginning

For example Unity's Netcode for GameObjects.

(other frameworks are available)

[gusty abyss]

networking is made by the devil himself

its the source of all evil

[worldly cave]

networking is relatively simple so long as you understand the basic underlying logic behind it

and how different stuff affects each other

granted it takes some time and effort to get to that point