💻┃unity-talk

[placid onyx]

anyone know how to fix these errors

[mystic abyss]

Best to ask in a VRChat server, this is a Unity server

[sudden ruin]

you disabled UI data

[mystic abyss]

They're VRChat specific errors

[sonic ferry]

I did so because alongside all the other disabled ones, when checking them off/on the graph changes were barely bumping up, I essentially just kept the big ones (blue, green) that showed significant graph changes. Although yea, yikes , the UI section is not looking so hot

it looks like enabling "manual redraws only" helped a lot with some OVRoverlay canvases

[slow dirge]

What's the OVR overlay canvas script anyway? Doesn't sound like a default unity canvas.

[sonic ferry]

so the project was originally using some 2021 version, updated to 6 recently, and I noticed afterward the UI stuff had a "Upgrade to OverlayCanvas" which from google looks like its a more optimized way of replacing the "world space" method of previous VR in-world UI. Im fairly certain its from some sort of meta VR package

[slow dirge]

Yeah, googling it, it seems to be something provided by oculus/meta.
Thus, unity optimization common sense probably doesn't apply to it very much. You'll need to learn how that package works.

[sonic ferry]

ye, wish I had known about the profiler beforehand, but at the time it didnt seem to affect anything in the editor so I kinda just trusted it, but builds on the actual headset are clearly ass in performance. Guess the time is now 😅

[sterile gust]

Currently working with a vrc avatar and if anyone might be able to help with the issue I'm coming across that'd be great.

I changed the eye textures on the model(first image atleast it should be set as the first image)

But when i go into the gesture manager and use the gestures the eye texture changes to something else. (2nd image)

Ive looked through the blendshapes and all the eyes and pupils are turned off so im a little unsure how to go about changing and fixing this

[copper gust]

Your best bet is gonna be asking in a vrchat community

majority of the people here do not have experience with this kinda stuff

[sterile gust]

awesome ill give it a try! thank you!

[harsh ferry]

Guys is the unity mcp tool good for beginners is it a viable tool to make a game?

[oak zenith]

Yes

[slow dirge]

No. Don't use AI as a beginner. At least don't use it to develop for you.

[sonic ferry]

whats the purpose of a clean build? I know it "rebuilds the library" folder but what does this help with exactly? Does deleting the library folder help fix any corruption? Can there be a negative impact to this? (aside from having to wait extra long for the build to finish ofc)

[lapis gate]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/Manual/build-clean-build.html

Beyond what's there I usually need to clean build to regen project files cause vscode plays dumb with me sometimes

[ocean pumice]

Clean Build is building the entire build folder and is not using cached files, that could be reused, if nothing changed (at least for unity to detect) in your cached files. This can happen for example on iOS builds, where Unity reuses parts of the Xcode Project, even if things should have changed. this can cause the generated Project to fail on dependencies for example and let Xcode not build.

Rebuilding the library folder simply reimports your assets with its latest state on drive and therefore help get missed updates that could be caused by those cached files inside library.

[sleek gazelle]

yo does anyone know how to turn off this snapping effect? whenever i move a gameobject, it conforms to this very faint grid in the background

i already have grid and snap off so im so confused

thanks 😄

[ocean pumice]

It does not really look like its snapping to a grid on your screenshot, as the pivot is in between 😄

[sleek gazelle]

it is tho ;-;

well idk if this ic alled snapping to a grid

but it seems to be following that faint grid in the bckground

[pearl oyster]

This disables the snap controls, not the snap itself. You have to enable this and then disable the snapping from the controls that show up

[sleek gazelle]

ur the goat, this fixed it

thank you bro

[vivid river]

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[novel scarab]

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[tall hearth]

Congrats i guess...

[sleek gazelle]

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[novel scarab]

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[sleek gazelle]

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[sage basin]

#📖┃code-of-conduct

[brisk rivet]

Is there a reason Unity Editor Loop is taking 13.5ms/frame on my PC?

I profiled & "Others" are taking a shit ton of time. I checked what that is, and it turns out it's the Unity Editor mostly.

Checking the timeline, it appears to be true. Editor Loop is huge.

Yeah, why the fuck is Application.Tick so goddamn long?

[outer light]

Y'know when I finally actually make my game the first thing I'm going to do is make bullets go exactly where the gun is pointed (Except for rare cases like buckshot from a shotgun) and have the inaccuracy be due to recoil, no bullets going everywhere except where the gun is aimed or magically becoming more accurate when you crouch

Always disliked that in games

[slow dirge]

It depends. Use the profiler to investigate it.

[brisk rivet]

According to the profiler, most is Application.Idle

Like what? I'm so confused.

[slow dirge]

Well, of course it's idle. You selected a frame where nothing is going on

[brisk rivet]

Even here

[ocean pumice]

What are those huge spikes? Usually those come from GC or something else blocking your mainthread.

[brisk rivet]

Nothing. Nothing is happening. This is just the editor window with nothing changing.

[slow dirge]

Is it being in background? Or maybe an inactive window?

Because it looks like you have profiler in a standalone mode and active.

[ocean pumice]

Oh yeh, you are somehow connected to some running instance, not your editor

[brisk rivet]

Okay, I think this should fix it.

This is editor while running the game

[ocean pumice]

You are still connected to an external service, not your playmode

[brisk rivet]

With the main culprit being Semaphore something

[brisk rivet]

Yeah I'm connected to the editor.

Not the actual game.

[slow dirge]

Semaphore means waiting for a different thread(likely render thread)

[ocean pumice]

Ah, connected to Edit Mode, got it

[slow dirge]

Switch to render thread

[ocean pumice]

But still Application.Idle taking up so much is not normal behaviour

[brisk rivet]

I'd be really surprised since Render Thread shows 0.3ms

[cyan lion]

my lightmaps look very bad, it looked better before baking

[cyan lion]

using hdrp

[brisk rivet]

Sorry, confused.

What is this meant to mean?

[cyan lion]

i was expecting to get nice graphics with hdrp but its just a pain to setup everything and still get bad results

[slow dirge]

deep profiling or timeline mode might reveal more. But let me guess: you have both scene and game view open in playing mode?

[brisk rivet]

Yes.

[ocean pumice]

Something is happening in your editor in background, if your idle/tick take up almost 100% of your cpu

[slow dirge]

Well, then think if it as if your game needs to render the scene twice

obviously that's not cheap

[brisk rivet]

Yeah, but that would be the Render Loop right?

Not the CPU loop

[slow dirge]

Rendering involves a lot of processing on cpu as well as the gpu

[cyan lion]

are you making an app in unity?

[brisk rivet]

No.

[cyan lion]

its a game?

[brisk rivet]

Yes.

[ocean pumice]

I guess, your bake settings are just too low and before baking you did not have any lightmaps. Did you check the lighting settings and resolutions of your atlases?

[brisk rivet]

Yeah, but given the game is taking itself less than 1ms on the CPU/GPU, it shouldn't be the culrpit even if it has to do it twice.

[cyan lion]

which exact setting? i tried upping light map resolution and bounces, it crashed my pc during bake

[brisk rivet]

It's a 2D game, very simple one at that.

[ocean pumice]

Well, maybe up it just a little and observe the changes.

[cyan lion]

the bake takes too long is it normal

[brisk rivet]

Baking takes a while usually yeah.

[ocean pumice]

Did you restart your pc and unity. I am wondering, if some background asset import or whatver is idling around or got stuck.

[brisk rivet]

I did.

[slow dirge]

Well, the editor also needs to render all it's windows and stuff. The overlays too.
Anyways, you seem to be having more than 60 fps with both windows open, so I'd avoid worrying about it just yet.

[brisk rivet]

Since that's what I though.

[brisk rivet]

I used to have 300...

It all changed when I imported Dotween

and then I removed it as well, but it didn't fix anything.

[cyan lion]

which exact parameter needs tweaking lightmap resolution or max lightmap size? or both?

[slow dirge]

If you want to dive deeper, you'll need to profile with deep profiling

[ocean pumice]

There are some tutorials out there about hdrp and lighting setup. Id rather check them out first, so you know all params in that setup and what they do 🙂 But also, upping the atlas size is already helping, but it takes time to bake depending on your cpu

[cyan lion]

can i bake it using gpu?

[brisk rivet]

Deep profiled.

[cyan lion]

it takes a lot of time and still crashes

[ocean pumice]

Not sure about HDRP, but in URP, there is a scene tab in lighting window, where you have the lightmapper selection, there could be progressive GPU

[cyan lion]

i wish unity had lumen, nvm

i have it set to gpu already

[brisk rivet]

Technically, there are assets in Unity Asset Store that do just what Lumen does.

[ocean pumice]

I read about vector images there. Are you using any heavy images/sprites as vector or do you update anything from script?

[cyan lion]

at that scale? you dont mean i am an asset away from achieving unreal engine 5 graphics?

how do i look them up

[ocean pumice]

You wont get Unreal Graphics easily from Unity. thats jsut the way it is.

[brisk rivet]

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/particles-effects/lumina-gi-2024-real-time-voxel-global-illumination-302183

[cyan lion]

i just want unreal engine 4 graphics that is more than sufficient

[brisk rivet]

This is one of them.

But it's URP only from what I can tell.

[balmy badge]

the unity

is very unity

[cyan lion]

i think i should switch to urp. i choose hdrp cause i needed top tier graphics but it aint happening.

all i got is long loading screens and slow performance

is it really that difficult to setup a hdrp scene that is photoreal?

[brisk rivet]

It shouldn't be, no.

[ocean pumice]

Its harder than in unreal, but not impossible

[brisk rivet]

If you want, I can hop in a call with you to figure it out?

But it's really not that difficult in my experience.

[cyan lion]

i can stream you my screen but i wont talk much

where can i join their is any vc here in server?

[brisk rivet]

Depends..?

Not sure I understand what you mean by this

[slow dirge]

Very weird data.
Perhaps the issue is not in the editor loop after all..? It seems to point to the game view rendering.

[brisk rivet]

Yeah, and I don't quite understand at all.

[ocean pumice]

If you remove the entire UI for testing. Does it still do that, guess not, right?

[cyan lion]

ok lets try to solve it together

[tall hearth]

There is none no

[cyan lion]

can i stream my screen in call?

[brisk rivet]

Like all the UI Sprites?

Sure, lets test.

All UI is disabled since it's all under Phone.

Including every script etc.

Still getting 14ms average of CPU pipeline going to editor.

[ocean pumice]

I would actually save the scene and remove the gameobject with the canvas entirely to be sure

[cyan lion]

okay i am calling you i have never done it before in discord so i am just testing it rn

[slow dirge]

I'd start with testing with only either scene view or game view tab visible.

[brisk rivet]

Everything removed except camera.

[ocean pumice]

GameManager doing nothing, right?

[brisk rivet]

It's empty object.

[ocean pumice]

Hm. As you are on .2, did you just try to update Unity? Remove library folder.. Like the default unity fixes that sometimes work 😄

[brisk rivet]

No, updated ages ago.

[torpid bone]

hey can somone help me here hoe do i take out the texture and matrerial for my character

[ocean pumice]

Extract Materials Button?

[brisk rivet]

well @slow dirge running just the game view is faster

[torpid bone]

extraxt materials i do butt it still dont come out

[ocean pumice]

What do you mean with dont come out?

[torpid bone]

the materials and the texture for the character it dose not show

[ocean pumice]

The materials should be exported to the folder you select. Textures seem not to be included in your fbx file, they should be external somewhere

[copper wyvern]

Hello everyone, I hope to be able to find help here with a bit of luck. I currently have an issue with blenders and unity. Basically, I import an animated 3D model (a small character) with 4 animations but one of them has a problem that only appears on Unity, why does the head not stay in its place T-T, Why ????

[torpid bone]

when i download character from zipfile the character get downloaded butt not the texture and when i do it sepretly it say the character allrady have texture

[ocean pumice]

We cant really help as we dont know, where you got those assets from. But you should be able to assign the textures downloaded separately to the materials extracted in Unity

[torpid bone]

i buy cours from udemy.com i did not have this problem with my other courses

[ocean pumice]

Maybe somethings wrong with the udemy assets. You should contact the people, who created them probably. Or maybe describe more, what is not working exactly

[torpid bone]

can i show you with screenshoot?

[ocean pumice]

yes, paste it here

[torpid bone]

oki

[fleet bronze]

Uhm so I just moved a project from 6.0 to 6.3 and it appears I can't move the scene camera with WASD anymore unless I disable "Camera Easing", has anyone else had this issue?

[ocean pumice]

Where you got those files, I assume you maybe got another zip with textures to assign to the materials.

[torpid bone]

i downloaded from the udemy cours to my mac and then to unity

[turbid owl]

Where can I ask a question regarding Unity VR project?

[ocean pumice]

But thats where our help here ends. W ecant help with assets from another source, as this server is about Unity only. So you rather ask at udemy or check the files again you got as download from there.

[ocean pumice]

#🥽┃virtual-reality ?

[storm patio]

uhhh no not really

[ocean pumice]

not really, what? How about you dont just react with "no" 😄

[torpid bone]

oo oki thats bad im rally stuck here 😛

[storm patio]

we definitely can help with third party stuff if we're capable

it's modding stuff, or stuff with dedicated communities that would be better served in the respective communities

[ocean pumice]

Feel free then

[storm patio]

the zip seems to have textures that you haven't extracted, have you tried those

[storm patio]

also you should probably not have your entire unity project synced to icloud

[torpid bone]

what do you mean brother

[storm patio]

the zip has textures. you haven't extracted them

[safe python]

Hiii

[storm patio]

what part of that do you need clarification on

[storm patio]

https://nohello.net

[velvet zodiac]

Has anyone had any success in implementing offline acoustic echo cancellation in unity? i have an npc that im speaking with using the microphone but it detects its own speech if i'm not using a headset.

[torpid bone]

i got it chris thank you 🙂

[safe garden]

what I would wish they would add to the UI for terrain or any toolset is a wheel or flyout where you hit a hotkey, and there's a wheel for terrain paint, smooth, raise or lower, that you can just flick to - then a hotkey for brush opacity/size, it would be faster than having to go back to the dialog constantly

[ocean pumice]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.terrain-tools@4.0/manual/brush-controls-shortcut-keys.html

[brisk rivet]

Is there a way to force an aspect ratio in Unity?

Like I want my game to always render in a specific aspect ratio and only allow resizing along that ratio from the corner.

[fleet sedge]

Hi guys, is unity 6.3.0 safe and recommended to use?

[safe garden]

ah ty

[ocean pumice]

Setting a resolution manually should force that aspect ratio, I think

[brisk rivet]

No, it doesn't.

[ocean pumice]

Fullscreen Windowed and deafult native res turned off, it should

[snow scaffold]

You could use Camera.fieldOfView, but I don't recommend you force an aspect ratio on players

[ocean pumice]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/FullScreenMode.FullScreenWindow.html

[sly eagle]

Hi, I need help.
In Unity 6.3 LTS, my Play Mode is stuck at exactly 30 FPS.
It never goes above 30 even in an empty scene (normally I get 400–500 FPS).

VSync is off, Maximize On Play is on, Game view is focused.
Still locked at 30.

Is there a new setting in Unity 6 that caps Play Mode FPS?

[ocean pumice]

Do you set targetFrame anyway in your scripts?

[sly eagle]

no, also tried to change target frame

[ocean pumice]

Did you upgrade from a previous version <6 or just from 6.2 or something?

[sly eagle]

Even if I clear everything on stage or try something else, it's still 30 fps static

No, I downloaded Unity 6.3 in a new clean project.

[ocean pumice]

Target platform is windows/mac?

[pearl oyster]

Vsync is off from where? There's a separate setting for it in the play mode

[ocean pumice]

Oh wait, isnt adaptive performance part of unity 6.3 now?

[ocean pumice]

Try unchecking adaptive performance in player settings

[sly eagle]

its unchecked and vysnc is off on both setting

I'm connecting to a dedicated server as a client. Is there something like automatic FPS locking in the editor in this scenario? This is my first time working with a server.

There is no such problem in the build because it only occurs when I connect as a client from the editor

Okay, I understand. I left the send rate at 30, which is why it's locking the FPS in the editor. Thanks for the suggestions!

[kind oxide]

Soo- This may be dumb, but I'm trying to figure out how in the hell I get my Coroutine to work

[near wigeon]

#1390346878394040320

[storm patio]

you probably need an input

and you probably need to not have 2 StartCoroutine calls

[brisk rivet]

This doesn't work if the default height is bigger than the native screen height.

Actually, it don't work at all.

[opaque pond]

Hi, I had a quick question about optimization. Is it optimal to set all walls, buildings, barriers, rocks, posts, etc., to static? Gemini explained a bit about optimizing his game, but I'd prefer to ask humans too x)

[brisk rivet]

@ocean pumice @slow dirge It apparently fixed itself

I changed absolutely nothing.

[brisk rivet]

Anything in your game that isn't moving or planning to move should be static.

It's so the GPU can batch it and render it more efficiently.

[opaque pond]

So technically it will be more optimized?

[brisk rivet]

Yes

[copper gust]

And in scene by default they will combine meshes on build too

[main pagoda]

I found using the unity 6 scene template a great starting point to get better lighting/graphics. I think you go under File, new scene and choose a template.

[tribal spindle]

can someone help me...

my tools look like the first picture cause I accidentaly clicked something but I dont know what 😭
its supposed to look like the second picture

[storm patio]

it's probably one of these three

[tribal spindle]

the dubble arrow to the left is just minimizing it, the arrow to the right is minimizing the game object thing and the hamburger is hiding

I have no idea how I got it like this

[storm patio]

try dragging the hamburger

it is a handle

[tribal spindle]

I can get it like these but nothing else with dragging :c

[brisk rivet]

Anyone know how to force an aspect ratio in Unity?

I wish to force a 35 : 76 aspect ratio on desktop devices for my game.

[opaque pond]

Hey, quick question: how do I make the edges of the paint smooth and not jagged like a square?

[tribal spindle]

u can use this script I think, just attach it to the main camera

public class ForceAspectRatio : MonoBehaviour
{
    public float targetAspectWidth = 35f;
    public float targetAspectHeight = 76f;

    void Start()
    {
        float targetAspect = targetAspectWidth / targetAspectHeight;
        float windowAspect = (float)Screen.width / (float)Screen.height;
        float scaleHeight = windowAspect / targetAspect;

        Camera cam = GetComponent<Camera>();

        if (scaleHeight < 1.0f)
        {
            // Add letterbox (horizontal bars)
            Rect rect = cam.rect;
            rect.width = 1.0f;
            rect.height = scaleHeight;
            rect.x = 0;
            rect.y = (1.0f - scaleHeight) / 2.0f;
            cam.rect = rect;
        }
        else
        {
            // Add pillarbox (vertical bars)
            float scaleWidth = 1.0f / scaleHeight;
            Rect rect = cam.rect;
            rect.width = scaleWidth;
            rect.height = 1.0f;
            rect.x = (1.0f - scaleWidth) / 2.0f;
            rect.y = 0;
            cam.rect = rect;
        }
    }
}

[vivid river]

https://discussions.unity.com/t/how-do-i-force-the-game-to-run-at-a-given-aspect-ratio/876254

[brisk rivet]

Already tried that, doesn't work.

[tall hearth]

You'd have to up the texture size

[boreal river]

Hey, guys! I have a problem with character controller, for one reason when the game starts the character controller is in the air instead of touching the ground.

[tall hearth]

If you are using unity's terrain im not sure how you'd do that

[boreal river]

I am going to record

[tall hearth]

Is it on the ground before you start?

[boreal river]

yes it is on the ground before check it out

I have adjusted properly the floor collider

like there is nothing that blocks the way

I want it to touch the floor like this so you got the point but instead when the game starts after the loading its in the air

 {
     bool isGrounded = characterController.isGrounded;

     horizontalInput = Input.GetAxisRaw("Horizontal");
     verticalInput = Input.GetAxisRaw("Vertical");

     if (isGrounded && velocity.y < 0)
     {
         velocity.y = groundedVelocity;
     }
     else
     {
         velocity.y += gravity * Time.deltaTime;
     }

     Vector3 moveDirection = new Vector3(verticalInput, 0, horizontalInput).normalized;
     Vector3 finalMovement = moveDirection * moveSpeed;

     finalMovement.y = velocity.y;

     characterController.Move(finalMovement * Time.deltaTime);```

Thats what I do on my player controller

[brisk rivet]

Anyone know how to force an aspect ratio in Unity?

(The typical solution of changing Camera Rect and adding letterbox/pillarbox doesn't work since I use UI with Overlay Canvas).

[storm patio]

charactercontroller.isgrounded checks if it hit the ground during the last move
this will start out false

[cyan lion]

so in unity like if i have a level i am making and assets are not compleltely made or are subject to iteration, am i only supposed to bake lighting when i finish with placing assets in the scene or is it common to bake lightmaps while iterating to get the feel?'

like what do professional devs do like they bake once ? cause baking takes too much time and i cant even use my computer cause the moment i open something unity crashes (while baking)\

also i currently own a 3050 (4gb) laptop. how big of a jump will i see in baking performance if i say get a pc with 5070 or 5080 with a ryzen7/ultra7, will it still be this slow and unstable to bake lightmaps?

[exotic relic]

If its a laptop, you probably shouldnt bake all the time, itll start burning up the cpu and degrade its performance since laptops dont have much cooling. baking does not require a super powerful gpu, but rather decent amount of vram and cooling.

When creating the scene, you do not need to constantly bake, in fact you should disable the auto baking feature in the lighting settings so that you dont have to wait everytime you open a scene, which will also prevent those crashes.

If you have objects as static, and point/spot lights set to baked mode.. simply assume the scene will have ugly lighting until you bake, yet continue to create it

[cyan lion]

i have it disabled, it crashes while baking when i hit generate lighting

[exotic relic]

When baking, do not tab out of unity. And a laptop with 4gb vram is definitely going to keep lagging and crashing when baking larger scenes

Clear your lightmap and disable the auto baking, just do it when you get the new pc

[cyan lion]

but bro like its my main pc i dont have anything else

[exotic relic]

ah, you plan to stick with that one?

[cyan lion]

should i not use my laptop while baking

[exotic relic]

you can try turning down the setting on baking but itll only help to an extent... a laptop is going to struggle

[cyan lion]

i am about to build a proper pc in a month or two

but for now all i have is a gaming laptop

[exotic relic]

I myself have a 3060 8gb vram laptop.. and baking has burnt up my cpu and my gpu has started to fail over time. I will be getting a new pc for baking

Its a simple fact that you are doing tons of light calculations so players dont have to do it at runtime

[cyan lion]

hooked to a screen, which reminds me of another question, does screen resolution effect performance? cause my laptop is 1080p and the monitor is 4k

[exotic relic]

It wont affect performance. the resolution of your textures make the difference which is a setting when you click on them

[cyan lion]

should i stop baking till i get a new pc then?

[exotic relic]

Ideally wait

itll just rundown your laptop

[cyan lion]

i havent even applied textures yet to my scene lol

just materials with parameters adjusted

[cyan lion]

can i know, which laptop did you own exactly

mines a tuf

[exotic relic]

MSI

doesnt matter tho. baking is super heavy and should be done on a proper gpu

[cyan lion]

And i will never buy a gaming laptop ever again

[exotic relic]

that process is putting your pc through the stress so other peoples gpu doesnt have to work so hard

[cyan lion]

yeah right

[exotic relic]

you could watch a youtube video on how baking works, but still.. itll be much better on a pc so it has proper cooling

[cyan lion]

should i get a liquid cooled pc for baking

[exotic relic]

im in the same situation as you pretty much lol

[cyan lion]

your pc is aircooled?

[exotic relic]

doesnt need to be liquid cooled, anything is better.

a desktop pc has a lot more space to have larger fans, and usually the gpu has a fan as well

[cyan lion]

fair enough but still like is liquid cooling worth it for such tasks, i also do rendering in cycles and arnold (images)

[exotic relic]

it shouldnt make a huge difference, its personal preference

[cyan lion]

ok thanks for answering my questions

[exotic relic]

No problem! good luck! be sure the gpu comes with more than 4gb!

[tall hearth]

Unless he's unless a top of the line intel cpu and over clocking it, it really wont be that big of a difference

[brisk rivet]

@cyan lion 4gb ram is not enough for HDRP anyways...

HDRP is ideally meant for the upper tier of stuff.

The way baking works is it iterates through every combination of light rays and camera angles, using which it creates a light map. That light map is then used at runtime. You increase compile time and memory requirement, while reducing runtime compuation cost.

[tall hearth]

Cpu's dont degrade this way at all

Dont spread missinformation

[brisk rivet]

Indeed. CPUs don't degrade this way.

What can happen though is that if your laptop hasn't had its thermal paste reapplied on the CPU, most likely it may not distribute heat as well to cooling mechanisms, leading to overheating.

Which, in turn, will lead to thermal-throttling, and if it gets too hot, your CPU to turn off to protect itself.

[exotic relic]

Consistently abusing the cpu from baking?

[brisk rivet]

Will not degrade the CPU at all.

It's not abuse.

CPUs like when they're consistenly used.

[tall hearth]

Yes a cpu isnt a mechanical device heat wont make it just a worse cpu from there on

[stuck flower]

Computer parts don't get worse at their job when used

[brisk rivet]

If anything, the temperature deltas are worst for the CPU.

[exotic relic]

Idk, I’ve been using it for 5 years

[tall hearth]

Unless it was 150 plus degrees celsius and then it'd shut the computer way before and no damage would be done

[brisk rivet]

Closer to 100 degrees for most.

[exotic relic]

Gradually it’s starting to feel slow and I get low fps on many games now

[brisk rivet]

Reapply thermal paste.

Clean fans.

You're thermal throttling.

Not CPU degradation.

[tall hearth]

Well i was giving a value that'd actually ruin the silicone not when it shuts off but yeah

[stuck flower]

Because OS bloat and game updates generally make things run worse over time.

[storm patio]

also check for malware every once in a while

[stuck flower]

Reinstalling your OS is usually enough to get a machine back up to its normal performance

[brisk rivet]

It's most likely he hasn't cleaned fans and reapplied thermal paste once in 5 years.

[exotic relic]

I mean it’s alright, getting a desktop pc instead of a laptop would be ideal for development.

And same for the person above who’s using a 4gb GPU to bake

[brisk rivet]

You'll have to do same with desktop PC...

Laptop fans just get clogged more easily.

[exotic relic]

Sure you’ll still have to bake, but the performance will be better

[brisk rivet]

Due to them being near human (creatures that generate waste).

(your body sheds dead skin cells which accumulate into dust)

[brave ridge]

yes, a better device would run better. That doesnt change what people are telling you about CPUs

[exotic relic]

So not applying paste is why I’d have a significant decrease in performance over time when baking?

[brave ridge]

The baking has nothing to do with it and they listed a few things on top of the thermal paste. Even just cleaning your fans could help

[storm patio]

some things can get worse over time. the people above are saying cpus are not one of those

[stuck flower]

Things with moving parts, specifically.

Fans, platter hard drives, etc.

[exotic relic]

Well, the main topic here is GPU

Having GPU with no fans

[stuck flower]

GPUs degrade because they usually have built in fans that can't be easily replaced.

[exotic relic]

Seems better to upgrade to a desktop

Wouldn’t it

[mild radish]

i have 2 out of 3 of my fans working..
i ziptied a regular pc fan in place of the 3rd one 🫠

[storm patio]

🤔 i mean you said baking would burn up and degrade the cpu. people were debating that

[vivid river]

You can improve it by removing backpanel

[brave ridge]

and no one said anything to contradict this

[tall hearth]

Lol my brother did the same ages ago with his 970 but both fans brok so he 2 just tied around it

[mild radish]

it works.. 👍

sometimes u just do what u gotta do lol

either that or buy the complete fan setup/ along with the shroud and all that.. n i didn't need all of that

it actually worked fine with 2/3 fans.. but i didn't wanna put stress on it

[exotic relic]

I feel like it could damage the parts a bit if it’s being maxed out until it crashes all the time, and overheating.

If he only has a 4gb GPU in a laptop I’m assuming he doesn’t have the best cpu

[mild radish]

i use a leaf-blower once every couple of months to clean out all the dust

[tall hearth]

That feels over kill -_-

[exotic relic]

I know I need the upgrade, my environments are a little graphic

[mild radish]

nope not at all... I used to clean it manually.. w/ alcohol, wipes, tooth brushes and all that crap..
but i noticed that the corners, cracks, nooks and crannies would still be dirty
now i just unplug the peripherals take it out to the back-deck... and w/ the covers off i just hit it with the leaf-blower..
easiest, simplest, and fastest way to clean it out..

after a minute or two.. all the fan blades, all the heatsinks, the radiator and everything is completely dust-free...
im sure i could do it once or twice a year.. but as soon as I see any dust in the vents I'll do the leaf-blower

[brisk rivet]

This isn't ideal either and will still cause thermal throttling.

The whole idea behind fans is not just open the GPU up to air access.

But to ventilate the hot air away.

and to ventilate the cool air in

[mild radish]

yup a case helps to funnel the air thru...

with either a push or pull setup

[tall hearth]

You see this is why my computer is tucked tightly into the corner of my room enclosed on all sides /s

Though my computer does only have the front and back for ventilation as the top has my laptop sitting on it blocking the 3 fans and the sides as wedged between my bed and wall

[mild radish]

lol.. (aka space-heater)

[brave ridge]

even with compressed air im pretty cautious lol, couldnt imagine using a leaf blower

[brisk rivet]

Yeah, the fan blades in computers are rather easily broken.

<@&502884371011731486>

[brave ridge]

<@&502884371011731486> scam post

[mild radish]

i've had to go back and plug in a connector i've blown off.. but nothing so bad so far lol

and i'v always done it from a distance.. (about 3 or 4 feet back)

[mild radish]

you mean case-fans?

[brisk rivet]

Indeed.

[tall hearth]

we dont really help with just straigth up learning here, though if you have a specific question you can ask

[mild radish]

so far so good.. i'll keep an eye on them tho next time.. (the blower usually gets them spinning really good.. and then i'll take a towel or napkin.. and use that to slow them down..

(that knocks off most of the dust)

[tall hearth]

I would recommend this v otherwise

!learn

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[mild radish]

if i break a fan blade or something (as long as its a case-fan) im good.. ive gotten dozens of those laying around..
i just try to be careful with teh ram sticks..

[potent geyser]

This conversation isn't Unity related anymore. And @mild radish at some point you're going to get yourself banned for posting off topic images (which you were just given a final warning about a month ago)

[mild radish]

i've bent or knocked them with my hand once.. and almost couldn't get them to get a good connection afterwards.. (but since then i have)

[potent geyser]

If you want to discuss PC related things, at least make a thread.

[mild radish]

im aware of that.. but i didn't consider that off-topic.. since everyone was talkin about optimization and heatsinc stuff
**for an hour and a half longer than i just came in.... **

my bad.. fr tho

(BAWSI mentioned that he uses compressed air to clean and even that makes him cautious... I was only showing that the blower I was talking about In relation to cleaning and keeping the PC running cool was a small blower.. and thats how i keep my case clean and running optimized....

The discussion was going on for almost 2 hours before I started conversating about it as well. but i get singled out and pinged.. and told to make a thread.. it wasn't even My FUCKING discussion... I didn't start it.. I just logged into it... 👈 😥

[potent geyser]

A picture of a leaf blower? Ok.

[thick rock]

Hey everyone, does anyone know what the problem is? The player isn't moving at all, and the code is fine. When I press the right or left arrow, it prints to the console, but it just doesn't move at all and doesn't jump like you can see. Does anyone know what the problem is?

[brisk rivet]

Nevermind, I stand corrected.

[storm patio]

everyone learns differently

we can't really give you direct advice for that

we can point you to resources, but how you utilize them or which ones you use is kinda up to you

there are beginner resources pinned in #💻┃code-beginner

[stuck flower]

When you encounter something you don't understand - go seek the answer and the then remember it.
When you encounter something that you do understand - find out how to break it.
When you break something - find out how to put it back together.

Mess with things. Change stuff, see how it affects things. Devise experiments, pose hypotheses, test your assumptions. If you have a question on how something works, try it and see. Be curious. Wonder why stuff happens, then try to figure out how it does.

Ah, they deleted the post I was replying to

[thick rock]

guys 😭

[storm patio]

you haven't really given much info to help

[sudden ruin]

looks like the character is moving but the speed is just too low

[stuck flower]

You have to write code to make the object move

[storm patio]

how are you trying to move the character? have you checked its transform to make sure it's actually not moving, or if it's perhaps moving very little?

[tall hearth]

They get scared away?

[unique talon]

Hey guys where can I get help with lighting?

[brisk rivet]

Uh, I thnk I'm getting too much FPS.

[mild radish]

cap it

[vivid river]

suffering from success

[brisk rivet]

Optimized like 3 shaders.

Went from 350 FPS -> 1.2K

Life

[storm patio]

#1390346776804069396

[tall hearth]

Is this going to be a game like simulacra / sara is missing?

[thick rock]

The character doesn't move when I press the right or left arrow keys, but I wrote in the code that when I press them " Debug.Log" , a message should appear in the console where they're pressed so I can check and test the code. if it's works.

[brisk rivet]

Yes

Well, not really a psychological thriller

but more so a coming-of-age game.

Same concept though.

Visual Novel

[storm patio]

#💻┃unity-talk message

[bleak heron]

hello, has anyone worked with Gaussian splats files in Unity? I'm working on a project and am having trouble getting .ply / .glb exports from World Labs AI to import into Unity properly, would really appreciate some tips

[tall hearth]

Ew ai ~_~

[stuck flower]

You have to write code to make the object move, it doesn't just do that on its own.

[amber walrus]

I have a love hate relationship with Unity.
Anyways can someone explain to me how the input map work and how I can implement the same input player map to other scripts?

[storm patio]

the input actions map?

[amber walrus]

Yeah bro. That’s confusing

[storm patio]

it's part of the input system, you can specify actions mapped to bindings using it

there are plenty of guides and tutorials for input system

[amber walrus]

I made so many scripts that had built in inputs like “E to interact” and other things. I just need to reference the same input map to those scripts

[lavish needle]

Hi! Total beginner here. 👋

I'm looking for a Youtube channel appropriate for my skill level that could help me get started with mixed reality developing. I take any recommendations, thanks in advance!

[storm patio]

!learn start here 👇

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[thick rock]

By pressing left arrow and right arrow , no i haven't checked, I just make a ground check , I set my speed move to 30, so I don't think that's the problem.

[lavish needle]

Cool, thanks!

[storm patio]

no i haven't checked
then go check

so I don't think that's the problem.
don't stop at "i don't think", go verify that

[thick rock]

yes , But I set the speed move to 30

[storm patio]

how did you set it

and how are you actually moving the character

transform? rigidbody? etc

you're really not giving us much info to work with

[sudden ruin]

that doesnt really mean anything

[thick rock]

I write script for them

[storm patio]

what actual code are you using

moving via the transform, via a rigidbody, via a charactercontroller, etc

[thick rock]

via a rigidbody

[storm patio]

alright, via forces or setting the velocity

just show code at this point

!code

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Posting code

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Use links to services like:
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📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
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Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[storm patio]

let's go to #💻┃code-beginner

[lavish needle]

Sorry if it's a stupid question, but why do so many members of this server have exclamation marks in their names? Are they all bots?

[storm patio]

it's called hoisting, it's basically done to push their name to the top. usually just a benign nuisance, though sometimes there's advertisements using hoisting

[lavish needle]

Ah, thank you, that makes sense. I'll be cautious.

[vivid river]

! is sorted first

[vagrant root]

<:error:1413114584763596884> Command not found

There's no command called is.

[storm patio]

you'll probably see it in most large servers unless there's a rule and a bot removing hoisted names

[lavish needle]

It's the first time I see so many! I guess the other big servers I'm in use bots like this yes

[potent geyser]

We will remove any hoisted named (renamed or remove nickname) if they're using it to self promote.

[lavish needle]

Good to know

[sudden ruin]

how is that different from the people with the "insiders" role? insiders even have their own channel where they can promote their content, so what's the difference between them and other people?

[potent geyser]

Not sure, this was something we've done long since the Insiders role was made (just a few months ago)

We had no hand in making that role, that was a Unity decision.

[lavish needle]

I'm sure it's easier to moderate a few promotion channels than a whole list of users you have to check one by one

[potent geyser]

Personally, I'm all for just hiding the user list entirely. It will at least prevent DM spamming a bit for people doing it manually.

[lavish needle]

Can I ask a question? I just joined and I'm still a little lost in all the channels. I'm looking for some place with video resources that are not necessarily official like Unity Learn?

[potent geyser]

There are pins in some channels like #💻┃code-beginner that have tutorials. Otherwise, you can browse user created stuff in #1179447338188673034

[storm patio]

i don't think insiders is something you can get yourself with no direct moderation oversight. hoisting is something you can do yourself by just setting a nickname/display name

(i'm guessing on the insiders part there, i don't know the flow to getting it, just going off the fact that there's not many and the role is made to be "special" in a way)

[lavish needle]

Awesome, thank you.

[storm patio]

#🏆┃daily-win or #1180170818983051344 btw

[brisk rivet]

noted

[polar basalt]

hey guys, i know that this is not directly unity related, but im trying to get git for unity, are these explorer functions important or does no one use them since there is github?

[brisk rivet]

Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. I've set this to limit FPS to the screen's refresh rate (in my case 144), yet my game still goes bonkers to 1.3k FPS.

[plain dagger]

git bash is useful but otherwise use the git gui client that you like (ide integration, github desktop, sourcetree, git fork ect)

platform ios is not a thing?

[plain dagger]

its UNITY_IOS

[brisk rivet]

what?

[polar basalt]

okok, so ig use this?

visual studio code ig?

[brisk rivet]

That has nothing to do with my question here.

[plain dagger]

then what platform is this not working with, editor?

[polar basalt]

vsync has to be off

for target framerate to work

[plain dagger]

this only affects when you make a commit via cli

[brisk rivet]

It's on Desktop with 1.3K framerate. Mobile devices don't allow unsynchronized rendering anyways.

[storm patio]

github is not a replacement for those

[plain dagger]

you can change the target fps for mobile actually

[polar basalt]

so go back and put them on?

[storm patio]

github is a platform to host git repos, nothing to do with actually creating them

[brisk rivet]

iOS will crash.

Please don't spread misinformation...

[polar basalt]

will i need those features as a basic user?

[polar basalt]

thats weird?

[storm patio]

you'll need a client somewhere - could be git cli, could be github desktop, could be ide integration, etc

[storm patio]

yes

[brisk rivet]

Unity literally says mobile devices will only render synchronized in their documentation.

If you try to render unsync, it will crash.

[storm patio]

actually, what do you mean by "those features" here

[tawny quail]

Never had that happen

[plain dagger]

on android you can alter the fps cap to not be 30

[polar basalt]

that

[plain dagger]

i know because ive done it many times look at my fancy icon i know my stuff

[storm patio]

oh, you don't need them, but you will need a git client. you could use those, you could use others.

[polar basalt]

aghh u just made me go back and forth haha, okay thanks

[tawny quail]

I know mobile can be a bit weird with what it actually applies (since it tries to keep it in divisions of its refresh rate).

[storm patio]

sorry, your reply made me think "those features" referred to "actually creating [git repos]" lol

[vivid river]

thats for right click options

[plain dagger]

id just leave it at the defaults and stop over thinking it

[vivid river]

that will open the Git cli terminal there

[polar basalt]

no because i had that on the old pc and it annoyed me to have soo many icons when i just wanna find where the buttons are

[brisk rivet]

You clearly do not.

[polar basalt]

and i never used git in my life, lol..

[brisk rivet]

Web, Android and iOS: Rendering is always limited by the maximum refresh rate of the display. Setting vSyncCount = 0 and targetFrameRate to an arbitrary high value will not exceed the display's native refresh rate, even if the rendering workload is sufficiently low.

[plain dagger]

when did i say you could do this

[tawny quail]

Rob just said you can make it not 30

[plain dagger]

i said you can change the target fps from the common default of 30 fps

[storm patio]

uhh where does that say ios will crash?

[brisk rivet]

and I'm talking about getting 1.4K FPS

[brisk rivet]

so why would you think it is ever a mobile platform...

[plain dagger]

using target fps on windows is actually a bad idea so you should use vsync there instead

[brisk rivet]

1.4K FPS > any mobile device's refresh rate

[storm patio]

and that isn't an issue

[plain dagger]

use target fps for mobile/console only

[brisk rivet]

I've just explained it is...

[polar basalt]

bro, you had an issue

and im telling you

just do vsync off

try that, and then set the target framerate

[storm patio]

what is the issue

the docs you linked just says it won't be exceeded

[brisk rivet]

VSYNC is off.

[polar basalt]

do a debug log for vsync and for target framerate and see

[storm patio]

i don't think vsync is related to the discussion here tbh

[brisk rivet]

Bro, I've been making games for over 2 years. I know how to turn vsync off.

[polar basalt]

target framerate doesnt work when vsync is on

[storm patio]

that was not the discussion

[polar basalt]

i know, but just try that

[brisk rivet]

Desktop and Web: If QualitySettings.vSyncCount is set to 0, then Application.targetFrameRate chooses a target frame rate for the game. If vSyncCount != 0, then targetFrameRate is ignored.

[plain dagger]

game window also has its own vsync toggle

[brisk rivet]

I'm well aware of this ^^

[polar basalt]

ah only desktop it is, and you do iphone, hmm

[storm patio]

just as a sanity check, have you tried debugging to see if targetFrameRate from reading the refresh rate there is reading 144 as expected?

[polar basalt]

thats what i said lol

[brisk rivet]

Yes I have.

Please stop with the sanity checks lol. You don't need to log everything either. IDEs like Rider allow you to view this statically and through the debuggers.

[storm patio]

i mean. you didn't say you checked with the debuggers either

we tend to try to not make many assumptions

we aren't in your head

[brisk rivet]

If I say it is 144, just believe me because I've confirmed.

I found the issue anyways I think

It's related to Nvidia's control settings doing some bullshit.

[storm patio]

i would rather not, because it's a common beginner mistake to assume something is set when it isn't.

i don't know you personally, i haven't seen you around, i don't know if you're a beginner or not. so i'm not gonna assume either way

we deal with question from a wide range of expertise here, so even if something should be obvious, we don't know if it's obvious to the asker.

[storm patio]

mb btw, i misunderstood the question myself 😮‍💨

[brisk rivet]

Fixed.

Fuck nvidia and its goated overrides.

[exotic relic]

now make a game and install it on the game phone

[brisk rivet]

It is already installed on my phone.

[exotic relic]

i meant a game inside of a game

[brisk rivet]

XD

might make a dumb version of Flappy Bird lol

or Snake

[vivid river]

Doom

[stiff quest]

snake

or chess

[stuck flower]

Give it a cow-themed boomer shooter with crunchy old school graphics called "Moo'd"

[storm patio]

needs doodle jump

just a break away from the rest of the game lmao

[vivid river]

!status

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[raven summit]

I have a really simple question maybe someone can answer, I am trying to rebind a shortcut in the editor. I would like to change the redo from ctrl + y to ctrl + shift + z. How can I do this?

[storm patio]

like mentioned previously, you can view and change shortcuts through shortcuts window, accessible via unity > shortcuts

or whatever the equivalent for this on windows is

[raven summit]

Tha't the issue then I must be missing a package then I don't have that window.

[vivid river]

Editor > shortcuts on win

[storm patio]

this isn't a package thing

this is built into the editor

[raven summit]

Or I am just blined.... lol I found it....

I looked at it 3 times and did not see it XD

[storm patio]

just for future reference, does it have all these entries (or equivalent)

i guess other than services/hide unity/hide others/show all, i think that's a mac thing

[vivid river]

yes, probably more

[storm patio]

oh, yeah no that's not editor

that's edit

that's a separate one for mac

[raven summit]

Ya this what I also have.

[vivid river]

i thought the tab was named Editor, its edit

[storm patio]

i wonder where the manage license equivalent is then. i guess in the hub?

my hub's menu bar doesn't have a "manage license" entry

[vivid river]

this?

[storm patio]

no

[vivid river]

then its on the hub ig

[storm patio]

that manages the account, not the license

oh "Manage License" just opens the hub to the licenses tab lmao

guess that's not really needed

[raven summit]

Not going to like having redo is a life saver now not sure how long I have not used it lol.

Thanks for the help!

Also on that note, anyone have some good sugesetions for shortcuts to bind or remember besides undo and redo? I started using them more and am just looking sugestions?

[fast tree]

I need to draw some paths/splines on the screen at runtime, and allow those to be clickable by the player. Does anyone know offhand whether there's support for this out of the box, such as via the splines package?

[brisk rivet]

You can always draw and then raycast.

[fast tree]

A raycast would need to hit something physical though, wouldn't it?

[brisk rivet]

Not really.

Loads of non-physical stuff in Unity is raycastable.

[lunar sierra]

I cannot update Unity. I keep downloading the Hub, and its the same version with the same security editor. Under installs, the new version does not appear in the list

[balmy kettle]

"Installs" shows the currently installed editors, you need to install a new version that has been patched

[vivid river]

Whats the latest it shows?

[stuck flower]

Did you click on "Install editor"

[fast tree]

Interesting... I'll look into it further, thanks.

[lunar sierra]

I'm dumb. Thank you.

[vivid river]

What is "security editor"?

[lunar sierra]

I meant error.

[raven summit]

Also quick note if you need to download a spefic version, or are looking for the lateset and for some reason unity hub does not display it you can alloways check the archive:
https://unity.com/releases/editor/archive

[brisk rivet]

I wish XCode Cloud Builds weren't slow af

[worldly cave]

[exotic relic]

just wait till you get to the approval process 😁

[brisk rivet]

iPhone specs are kinda nice h tho

The fact that they have a 4GB memory GPU is pretty good

You could run Crysis

[exotic relic]

Yea! some of the new androids are great as well, ive played around with some 4k graphics on there. not that it would be ideal, but it is capable

[charred ember]

why is this going inverted? only happens during play mode

[short grove]

actually moving that to VR I feel like its an interaction issue mostly

[zinc quiver]

hi

[gleaming fiber]

hi

[zinc quiver]

wha do i do here

[next gazelle]

Hii

[lime steppe]

Hey

[next gazelle]

How are u bro

[lime steppe]

Fantastic thanks for asking!!! How are you doing ?

[storm patio]

hi, fyi this is not a social space
https://nohello.net

[next gazelle]

I'm at school

[next gazelle]

Oh

Sorry

[storm patio]

yeah please do not send off-topic stuff

and please don't dox yourself

[next gazelle]

Okay

[storm patio]

might want to remove that video

[vivid river]

or rainbolt would get that vid

[storm patio]

-# he doesn't need that vid, he already knows

[vivid river]

fax

[next gazelle]

I am a person who knows how to protect herself, no problem.

[leaden wren]

hi

[storm patio]

https://nohello.net

[sonic ferry]

for static batching, does "movement" count as positional only? Or rotation (and scale?? ) as well?

[vivid cedar]

All of the above

[sonic ferry]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[copper gust]

don't overthink statics too much

[sonic ferry]

I have to

[copper gust]

why's that

[sonic ferry]

dam u right

ive just been struggling in decyphering the profiler, or looking under the hood with project settings for optimization is all

also cant tell if occlusion culling has been helping at all, stats wise doesnt seem to offer anything significant so I cant tell

[sturdy jacinth]

sombody help me where do i find the probuilder window

😭

[sonic ferry]

https://discussions.unity.com/t/probuilder-window-missing-in-unity-6/944138/7 ?

[vivid river]

its in Tools>Probuilder if you imported the project

[sturdy jacinth]

[vivid river]

Read the forums, its changed in 6 sadly

[sturdy jacinth]

Yeah, i still dont get it

[balmy kettle]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.probuilder@6.0/manual/whats-new.html

Removed the ProBuilder window. The ProBuilder tool context, used with the Scene view context menu, provides a more streamlined workflow for ProBuilder actions.

[sturdy jacinth]

wait a second

i just restarted unity i found it !

[lapis gate]

If you're using SRPs then static batching is not much of a thing any more for rendering beyond light map baking.

[fair cove]

Which part of the profiler are you struggling to understand? I may have some suggestions as a baseline understanding to start with but it depends on how your trying to use the profiler to begin with (and the problem your trying to solve with it)

[sonic ferry]

well perfect example, when I maximize the profiler, it shows much better performance regarding the cpu/gpu usage (no red bars aside from the singular frame I highlighted), previously, the entire cpu would be one giant red bar so im assuming that has something to do with the editor being taken into account.

But to diagnose, It shows me to open the hierarchy (image 2), but when I do open the hierarchy there's this consistent issue, semaphore.waitforsignal... but like what am i supposed to do with that information? Its using 90%+ of whatever its using, so clearly probably THE problem to identify, but from this point (image 1), how do I continue to deep dive from there. Not even sure where to look

oops it cut off

yikes

[fair cove]

Try turning on "Deep Profile" and test again, maybe then you should be able to expand "semaphore" further, though I believe "Gfx" is GPU related, sometimes copying the whole line into google can explain the origin of some hardware calls like that, though I usually look at the "Hierarchy" mode when trying to find bottlenecks, the "total time" is a nice overview but imo it doesnt give enough info to do anything about it

[lapis gate]

looks like a cpu bottleneck

[blissful otter]

Hey, so I'm having some projectile issues and also something with my camera script

[lapis gate]

#💻┃code-beginner

[fair cove]

Ah your right, the "Gfx" part made me think it was graphics related, but searching it up myself, seems technically CPU related, but because of the GPU (where CPU work is ready and waiting for GPU work to finish)

[sturdy jacinth]

I think my unity app is broken.

What is going on

[blissful otter]

Not anything beginner

[lapis gate]

#1390346827005431951

[blissful otter]

Ah I did not have that in my channel list

[sonic ferry]

JESUS, is the deep profiler than performant?? Simply enabling it brings up the cpu problems again, even with it maximized.

similar stats tbh. although, im starting to see things I can actually tell what they are

Render textures ?

[slow dirge]

There are scenarios where it can introduce tremendous overhead, yes. That's why it's a toggle.

Semaphore is waiting for a different thread or the gpu to complete it's work, so you should check the background threads instead.

[sonic ferry]

Semaphore.waitforsignal > gfx.waitforgfxcommandsfrommainthread > standalone preset. I see some cameras im using for rendertextures

[slow dirge]

Ah, is that the render thread?

Should probably show the whole profiler window. That "calls" tab is not very helpful and adds a lot of confusion.

[sonic ferry]

u mean these ?

[sonic ferry]

sry

[slow dirge]

I mean all threads that are not the main thread.

[slow dirge]

Yep, this is just waiting for the main thread. The bottleneck is there(at the very least not in the render thread).

[sonic ferry]

on the main thread. Things keep pointing to these camera's at least, being the most expensive. Looks like finally something I can use. Ig I should look into optimizing rendertextures then possibly ?

[sturdy jacinth]

is there places where i can sell my games ?

[potent geyser]

Yes, Steam.

Which, I'm surprised you would have to ask. 🤔

[sonic ferry]

clapped

[slow dirge]

The render loop is just 13 ms - 1/3 of your total frame time. And the camera rendering is just half of that.

That's relatively fast, so I'm not sure why you're so focused on it.

[sturdy jacinth]

no for other peoples use to post on steam

[slow dirge]

You should start by looking at the render loop time with deep profiling disabled.

[stable perch]

you can post on steam

i think its like $100 to set up a page

[sturdy jacinth]

like for selling the game for sombody else to uplod to steam

[storm patio]

you mean like, publishing?

[slow dirge]

This sentence makes absolutely no sense to me to be honest...

[vivid river]

That's publishing through studios

[slow dirge]

From the English language perspective I mean.

Really begs for a famous quote from pulp fiction...

[sonic ferry]

do the red circle items correlate to the green? On red, when I unclick "others", the graph shows an immediate jump in performance, and the second image shows the waitingfor inside the "Other threads". It might be a garbage collecting issue possibly? Actually the third image

... its hierarchy doesnt show squat tho

[sturdy jacinth]

you sell the game to a publisher

[sonic ferry]

119ms is a lot right ?

im bad at math

[slow dirge]

The red circle is related to the graph on the right. It only shows main thread time.
The green one is related to the timeline to the right of it and shows various threads.

[slow dirge]

Waiting for signal on background threads is normal. It means that there is no work for them to do.

[storm patio]

119 ms is 0.119 s

[sonic ferry]

that doesnt sound like a lot

i wanna cry

[slow dirge]

I don't see where you see that value.

[storm patio]

oh, it's not actually 119 ms

[slow dirge]

It's total time...

[storm patio]

it's in the third image of this message #💻┃unity-talk message

[slow dirge]

Yeah, I see now. There's absolutely nothing to gain from looking at the idle/wait time on background threads...

[storm patio]

at 60 fps, one frame is 1/60 s, about 0.016 s, or 16.67 ms

but yeah this is not the same thing

the 119 figure there is accumulated

[slow dirge]

What are you even trying to do?

Your profiler data looks totally fine. No significant performance issues. At least half of the frame time is coming from the editor loop, so maybe profile a build instead..?

[storm patio]

did you actually have perf issues

[slow dirge]

I think they were trying to get 300 fps or something 😅

[sonic ferry]

figure out what its waiting for i guess. I dont see any correlation really from all this data, aside from the rendertexture thing I kept harping about previously, cuz its the only thing that as I dig deeper, its what shows up.

Seperately, I cant upload a build rn to the meta quest dev hub, im getting another error related to authentification issues, ive already contacted meta about it though, just waiting on a response.

Yes, I was having performance issues, it was so bad meta said they couldnt even test any other VRCs until I fix that alone. There was this one hiccup regarding some OVRoverlayCanvas for UI stuff, removing dynamic redraws and only keeping manually HELPED A TON, but the OVRperformance tool Ive been using for meta (when I was previously able to push builds when I wasnt getting authentification issues), showed a constant 30-40 fps on the headset. Need to keep it a constant 60

[copper gust]

Can gobble up ram like crazy in some situations as a specific example

you can profile the game running on the quest for more accurate sampling btw https://developers.meta.com/horizon/documentation/unity/unity-profiler-tool/

[sonic ferry]

I wanna look into threads tho, and how that whole thing works. Unity's hosting a webinar thursday, but ive been bouncing around with understanding more about performanceand the profiler too

wait, build and run can work with the meta quest link app? 😅

[lapis gate]

best profiling for me is just deleting half the scene and making my way back up

[sonic ferry]

thats what ive been thinking of doing too lmaooo

[copper gust]

That’s preferable yeah

[sonic ferry]

just starting a new project and dragging things in one by one

[slow dirge]

Threads don't define performance. The main thread does.

[lapis gate]

render textures do sound expensive for VR though if you're doing anything fancy

[copper gust]

Also I could totally be mistaken but I thought quest titles are expected to run at 90+?

[sonic ferry]

I KNEW IT

nope, just 60

im at 30

[copper gust]

I’m not saying cert passing wise, i mean more in terms of user expectations

[sonic ferry]

yeaa.... :/

[slow dirge]

Anyways, there's not much point in tinkering in the editor. Rendering on a vr headset is way too different.

[sonic ferry]

thanks team! Imma look at that, Batby

[slow dirge]

It might be fine for non rendering stuff.

[sonic ferry]

oh its Batby

[copper gust]

Actually if this is interactive you do seemingly actually need at least 72? https://developers.meta.com/horizon/documentation/unity/unity-perf/

This link seems like good stuff too

[copper wyvern]

Hello everyone, I hope to be able to find help here with a bit of luck. I currently have an issue with blenders and unity. Basically, I import an animated 3D model (a small character) with 4 animations but one of them has a problem that only appears on Unity, why does the head not stay in its place T-T, Why ????

[slow dirge]

One thing that I noticed is that you seem to be using an older urp version..? What Unity and urp versions are you using and why?

[sonic ferry]

unity 6.34f

and urp 17?

dont quite understand the why, if its default, i usually keep it, id prefer not to touch the underhood stuff typically but yea

[slow dirge]

Because the rendering related calls you shared seem to be using the older render pass api, instead of a render graph.which should be a lot faster. Maybe it's some setting..? Did you upgrade this project from an older version?

[sonic ferry]

i did!

[slow dirge]

I'd check the project settings. There should be a setting to enable the render graph. Not sure where it is.

In graphics at the bottom it seems. There's a "compatability mode" check that would disable it.

[vivid river]

Why did my Hub disappeared? I updated it to 3.13.5

[near wigeon]

cuz windows sucks 🤷‍♂️

[slow dirge]

Sometimes it fcks up during update. Happened to me once.

[vivid river]

it came back after explorer restart

Also what are the necessary files to backup to retain Project files and resources like Assets and editor settings and what packages are dependencies?

[potent geyser]

You use git and the git ignore file.

https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/main/Unity.gitignore

[vivid river]

That's useful for backups and backing up necessary files because i don't want to have full projects sitting there not actively worked upon, consuming disk space

[potent geyser]

What diskspace? Use git or gitlab.

[vivid river]

For localbackups

[potent geyser]

Delete local versions when you're not working on them so they don't consume your disk space.

[vivid river]

yes

[near wigeon]

just like git never back up the library folder, thats bulk of disk space

[maiden escarp]

sorry not sure where to ask this but i legit can't even download the editor for some reason it just says this and wondering if anyone knows why

[dusky forum]

Try restarting the computer

[maiden escarp]

that worked 😅 guess i shouldve thought to try that. thanks

[astral heron]

Hey folks, For developing a hand-tracking game in Unity, which solution is more suitable in terms of accuracy, performance and ease of integration: Mediapipe or MoveNet or anything else you can recommend?

[brisk hornet]

/bug

uhhhhhh why is this doing this??????

[novel parcel]

hey guys, how much time it takes to setup cloth and hair physics for a 3D character like the one i sent here?

[lapis gate]

relatively quick

[novel parcel]

so like few minutes?

[lapis gate]

could be done by now

[novel parcel]

what? I am asking theoreticlly for a mass colliders and cloth setup...

[lapis gate]

have you rigged a character before? It's the same deal, more bones and more weight painting

but if the character is rigged then you're usually just assigning what needs to deform

then an exclusion collider if you dont want self intersecting

[placid marlin]

For just a small hair movement maybe a few minutes but if u want it really realistic probably 50 minutes

[novel parcel]

thanks

[lapis gate]

Unity's cloth does provide some tools inside of the engine which is through a lattice if you don't want to use imported data

like you can do armature cloth, but if you want like full cloth physics usually you want to use the tool. There's plugins that provide more solutions

[novel parcel]

yeah i know but i never used it and also I want to see what people with expirence are capable because I want to employ someone or some people for that.

[sturdy jacinth]

Is there anywhere where people can sell unity games for other people to publish ?

[fleet canopy]

!collab

[vagrant root]

:loudspeaker: Collaborating and Job Posting

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Please, use Discussions to promote yourself as job-seeking, advertise commercial job offers, or look for non-commercial projects to participate in:
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[fleet canopy]

probably

[nimble vigil]

Is there a way for unity to autocompress gltf files like fbx does?

[cedar idol]

Hello

[left palm]

Can I ask questions about game planning or ideas here? Just a quick question.

[charred fog]

Create a thread here if you do. As channel description says.

[left palm]

ok

Please read this introduction

[cedar idol]

Student Project: Industrial Simulation in Unity

[fallen dragon]

I think it would have been better if instead of showing UI on every single object, it showed the layer only on top parent with same layer

[ocean pumice]

What if you want different layers in the children?

[fallen dragon]

Then you go to that gameObject, change the layer, and it will display that gameObject's layer because its different

currently if layes is set to Default it already hides it

so i dont see any issues with it being "not fast" or "taking time"

[copper gust]

what view is this from

[fallen dragon]

For example if i change Weapon's layer to something else, it will show it, while the rest of the objects (like InGame, Pause or Map) will have their layer hidden because they have same layer as Canvas

new Hiearchy in Unity 6.3

[copper gust]

dreadful

[ocean pumice]

so you can never change the layer from that view, because you need to enter the inspector? I get, that its cleaner, if it showed it like a prefab override, but you also take away the possibility to change it in hierarchy directly. Not sure, whats better.

[copper gust]

i disagree with your suggestion though, dynamic showing/hiding this is too implicit imo

unideal solution to a real problem

[fallen dragon]

You still need to count that when layer is set to Default, its already hidden
And we still can include a setting to not hide them

[ocean pumice]

Yeh, default is just, you dont care about layers at all imo. But how do you access that hierarchy at all? 😄 I still got my old one even on 6.3

[fallen dragon]

AND it shows when you hover over it

dont forget that

so all you need to do is just hover over it and it will show the selection

which it does already for default properties

[ocean pumice]

ahh good point. Than you might be right. could be convenient to not clutter up the view at some point

[fallen dragon]

The only reason i have those columns hidden is because how clogged they are

[ocean pumice]

How do you even show them? Could not find any toggle or something to show them

[fallen dragon]

Unity already offers to change all children objects so i asume it makes sense

[fallen dragon]

Edit > Preferences > General > New Hiearchy
Then right click on top of hiearchy to select columns to show

[ocean pumice]

Oh okay, thanks for pointing to the setting. Ill revert it immediately 😄

That column coloring is not making things easier to read tbh. Its separating child objects from parents visually while they should still be part of the parent object.

[twilit oracle]

Hey people

[wet hull]

Hello could i have a small interview with somebody that has made a game for a school project!

[safe garden]

hey guys quick q about prefab overrides, I noticed if you have a giant prefab encompassing say the whole environment, you can just hit apply overrides and it will sort it. However if you made changes to prefabs within said uber prefab, they will still require overrides to be applied to update everything in general. Is there a way you can just apply overrides to a giant prefab as well as every prefab within it in one go?

[ocean pumice]

Short answer, no. If you have a prefab inside a prefab, that parent prefab can still have overrides for your child prefab, while your child prefab could have overrides on its own. Its up to you to handle your prefabs states organized and cleaned up.

[safe garden]

ahhh makes sense now, ty

[reef dome]

Hmm I just took a look at the new shadergraph templates.... and this is what they call "basic"?

[brisk rivet]

IL2CPP is really cool

[slow dirge]

Heh. This is pretty normal for unreal engine material blueprints.

[brisk rivet]

For shaders, it actually is.

[reef dome]

Yeah i figured this is the full configurable material that you get when you just create a material, nothing basic about that 😄

[brisk rivet]

Well it's the customization aspect that's very appealing to people anyways.

[boreal river]

Hello, guys! So, I have an issue with my camera and I think its because I have enabled occlusion culling on my main camera, because when I disable then it works as expected and I see the door properly. But occlusion culling must be on for performance optimization, so how to fix this issue I have?

This is my camera when I dont see the door it doesn't disappear but when I barely see the door through my camera like in the first image I have this weird look

[mild radish]

im pretty sure culling works by using the objects renderer bounds.... if any part of the bounding box is inside the camera it should render... if the entire boundnig box is outside it should cull..

not sure why the door frame isn't visible in the first image... (maybe it has something to do with the scaling or parent transform)... maybe the pivot is offset.. TLDR: i'd check the bounds of the object and make sure it is what u expect it is

[fair cove]

It probably is "basic" but I feel this is just a problem with visual scripting (at least in Unity, havnt compared many other visual scripting tools outside of the engine, Animator imo is worse), that they just look like a messy web of connections, even when they group nodes and add "comments" - would be nice if they could maybe introduce tabs or "classes/sub-classes" with the outputs instead of connecting nodes across groups, and "functions" (which I believe they do have, not sure why they arent using it here), turn the chain of "add-multiply" nodes into 1 custom node, would be cleaner to look at imo (and easier to look at everything "zoomed out")

[copper gust]

yeah subgraphs very much exist

[mild radish]

u work with shaders enough and you end up with lots of useful subgraphs u can just pull from

[compact vigil]

can anyone help me with particle strip its very choppy i need smooth ribbons

[vivid river]

<@&502884371011731486>

[charred fog]

Ask the full question in #✨┃vfx-and-particles Post the things you've tried showing related particle system properties and try illustrating what you want it to look like.

[lean dune]

Guys, do you think its better to be a full stack? Like learn modeling, animating and all

[potent geyser]

Having knowledge in all areas of game development is of course an advantage.

[lean dune]

But as of now i am focusing on learning multiple language (to know what i will take in college ofcourse, its like 5 years more before i go to college but im bored)

i currently have experience in LUA, CSS, HTML, and JS (learning C# for a week)

[potent geyser]

Okay, so what's the Unity question exactly?

[lean dune]

If its better to focus on programming or learn everything

[potent geyser]

Having knowledge in all areas of game development is an advantage.

[fair cove]

"better" in what way? Whats your goal with learning everything as opposed to just programming? Do you plan to work alone or with others?

[lean dune]

How about for peopel planning to work on a company?

[karmic mantle]

wy is it so after like 4 times playing the scene my character start to move/slide back (i dont press any thing) and if i quit my the editor and re load i get like 4 more times before it starts again

[lean dune]

Well depends, as of now im doing this for my port but in the future i hope to work with others.

[potent geyser]

If you get hired to do Unity at a company, it's to do Unity. Having knowledge in how all areas of development work within Unity is an advantage.

[lean dune]

Alright, I guess ill learn C# in unity for now and learn other stuff as i go

[fair cove]

Well if you are going to be working with others, then everyone is going to have a specialized role, depending on how you choose to work (for example, at a studio with a salary, youll have a job description, at a collab with people for fun youll "wear many hats") - so as Osteel said, knowing and understanding how other skills work is useful, especially if you as the programmer will be implementing for example, audio or art in a game, but that doesnt mean you as the programmer, also need to know how to make art and audio, in a team/company setting

[fair cove]

This approach sounds like a good way to start imo, be curios about other skills but if you know programming is what you want to do, then imo it makes sense to focus on that first - Unity Learn also has "Pathways" that does expand into the other skills, so it could be a structured way of learning "everything"

[vivid river]

You must be enough knowledgeable to utilize and know the editor not fully expert but for starting having known the workspace is good

[lean dune]

As of now im still confused with stuff, since i dont like watching tutorials ngl i just read shit from google, and since i started in roblox studio its kinda difficult for me. I have to make everything from scratch now but Its more fun ngl. Its like i achieve something great.

The only thing i was able to do without assistance was a movement system (im planning to implement wallrun to test out the raycast and such)

[fair cove]

Well movement can get pretty complex so being able to build that without any external resources is pretty good imo - if you dont like watching tutorials, maybe blog tutorials or books is a more preferred way for you to learn, outside of just experimenting in-engine, but your approach is not a bad way of learning, so if your having fun from it then keep at it, and choose to learn as much as youd like about the "make everything from scratch" part, to me it doesnt sound like one path or the other is a career decision for you atm

[blissful otter]

Is there a chance I could get some help in #1390355039272439868? Having some issues with my projectile stuff that I've been trying to fix since yesterday

[karmic mantle]

wy is my charakter moving backwards??? it does this when i play in the editor but for the first 4 times it worked like a charm but out of the blue it started to move back (i havent changed a thing in th playermovement script)

[potent geyser]

Nobody can even begin to guess with such vague information.

Either you flipped your character around and its facing backwards, or your code is actually moving it backwards.

[karmic mantle]

okay so i started made a player movement script then tested (worked 100% fine) then i added a level just some blocs and that stuff tested as i build then it just started to move back an it is just so weird

[worldly cave]

you gave literally no additional info thats actually useful...

lets start with some of your player controller scripts first

[karmic mantle]

ther just is no more info

[worldly cave]

the what is huh?

[karmic mantle]

same with asset packs

[worldly cave]

what do you mean theres no more info?

dawg youre supposed to supply the info

if you want us to help you

[potent geyser]

Make a video of it actually happening so there's a visual reference.

[blissful otter]

You could share the code for the controller, that would be the info

[karmic mantle]

ok

[pale coyote]

guys im using ray tracing for one of my volumes and depth of field however faraway things have a bit of jitter which is really annoying, for that i switched camera AA to TAA for now but are there any other methods? also when i play in editor, the screen is fine however in the build profile the whole screen vibrates and jitters making the game unplayable.

[karmic mantle]

u need more info??

[worldly cave]

a video that actually embeds would be nice

and yeah your player controller code would be also great

[karmic mantle]

how do i get the video to embed???

is it to big?

it is like 3 min

[worldly cave]

it needs to be any other format other than .mkv, also we dont need 3 minutes....

like 15 seconds mask showing the issue happening

and for the 3rd time, your player controller code

[karmic mantle]

okay

how do i send the code??

i dont have nitro

[karmic mantle]

happy?

[vagrant root]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
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📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[vivid cedar]

you definitely don't need nitro to share code

[blissful otter]

Yeah you just gotta use a pastebin bro

And he's trying to help you you don't gotta be passive-aggressive 😭

[karmic mantle]

'''cs

omd

[vivid river]

Same once happened to me, i set the picked up item too close to my playerrigidbody/collider and it started pushing it backwards, not sure if its same here

[karmic mantle]

happy?

[worldly cave]

im rarely happy

but let me see

[worldly cave]

is the ground in your scene set to the proper layer?

[karmic mantle]

yes

i have colider and rigidbody is that bad?

[worldly cave]

no

[karmic mantle]

okay

[worldly cave]

i can see that when you start your scene your player falls down, are you debugging your isgrounded value anywhere to ensure the player is actually grounded

also ensure that the ground layer mask is actually set up properly on the player itself

[karmic mantle]

but i worked the like 5 times i played it and it works like 4 times after i reset the editor

[lean dune]

oh wow that looks amazing

[worldly cave]

what is the name of the layer you set your ground to

also you should still debug your isgrounded value just to eliminate the posibility

[karmic mantle]

cave

[lean dune]

are u clicking anything or is it just going backward

[worldly cave]

Debug.Log("Grounded: " + isGrounded);```

add this to your checkgroundstatus

and tell me what the console says when you start the game.

[karmic mantle]

im not pressing any thing

but if i press any other like wasd it works

but the when i dont press any of wasd it moves backwards

[stuck flower]

!code

[vagrant root]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
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📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[stuck flower]

How are you moving the character? Show the controller code

[worldly cave]

he already sent it...

we are discussing it

[stuck flower]

I don't see a link anywhere

[worldly cave]

anyways did you add the grounded debug?

[worldly cave]

he sent it as an inline

[ivory moat]

While you're pressing w, is the object fighting against you? (i.e. your forward velocity is more than the backwards force so you are moving forwards but less)
Or is the backwards force completely elminated while moving

[ivory moat]

sent it as a file actually so unless we download the file there's lines unavailable (too big)

[stuck flower]

I'm not going to download a text document to solve this

[ivory moat]

it would be easier with a paste bin link

[karmic mantle]

Grounded: True
UnityEngine.Debug:Log (object)
PlayerController:CheckGroundStatus () (at Assets/Scripts/PlayerController.cs:83)
PlayerController:Update () (at Assets/Scripts/PlayerController.cs:49)

[worldly cave]

you dont have to, but believe me we barely got him to send that it would be a whole another battle for an actual link

[worldly cave]

ok so we can eliminate any issues with the isgrounded, thats some progress i guess

[karmic mantle]

no idea thing it completely eliminated

[worldly cave]

horizontalInput = Input.GetAxis("Horizontal");
verticalInput = Input.GetAxis("Vertical");
    
    if (horizontalInput != 0 || verticalInput != 0)
    {
        Debug.Log("H: " + horizontalInput + " V: " + verticalInput);
    }

add this to your update

then what does your console say when you start the game but dont move on your own.

[ivory moat]

Also, can you send a screenshot of how both your horizontal and vertical input actions in the project settings window (where you would have initially set them up)? @karmic mantle

[karmic mantle]

H: 0 V: -1
UnityEngine.Debug:Log (object)
PlayerController:Update () (at Assets/Scripts/PlayerController.cs:47)

[ivory moat]

There's your issue

[ivory moat]

Send the screenshot of this please? @karmic mantle

Something is causing your vertical input to be permanantly negative

There's a good chance something is misconfigured in the input system setup, either that or something is wrong with your keyboard

[karmic mantle]

give me one sek

i found it

i think

[ivory moat]

What was the issue?

[karmic mantle]

it is my stering wheel

or a controler

[ivory moat]

You've got a steering wheel attached? In future that's an important thing to mention

[worldly cave]

you know i was assuming you had a gamepad with really bad drift at first

but i didnt want to assume you would not make that known

[karmic mantle]

im so sorry for wasting you time

[worldly cave]

guess i was wrong

[ivory moat]

You can't expect a mechanic to fix your car if you walk in without the car lol

[karmic mantle]

Connected joysticks: 1

[ivory moat]

That would most likely be it

[karmic mantle]

Joystick 0: G923 Racing Wheel for Xbox One and PC
UnityEngine.Debug:Log (object)
InputDebugger:Update () (at Assets/Scripts/InputDebugger.cs:20)

wy it that do?

[ivory moat]

What?

Why does what do what part exactly

[karmic mantle]

this saying my steering wheel is not giving any input

[worldly cave]

how about you unplug it completely

then try

and see if the backwards movement still happens

also im pretty sure the 0 is some kind of index

[karmic mantle]

guess what

it was the problem

[ivory moat]

Hopefully now you know how to debug code for future

[worldly cave]

didnt have to guess, it was pretty obvious when you mentioned you had one plugged in the entire time.

[ivory moat]

You can often just spam debug.log until you find a value that's meant to be something else

[karmic mantle]

but thank you so much for all the help

still weird it worked the like first 6 times

[ivory moat]

Yeah also don't try to solve input related stuff without making sure you know exactly what devices are connected lol

[ivory moat]

Most likely the wheel just turned at some point, or drift kicked in or something

It's a hardware issue not a unity issue

[karmic mantle]

fair

[stark trench]

hey do you know if there is a discord channel or server where i can get some help and guidance? as a newbie?

[vivid cedar]

#🔎┃find-a-channel as I already showed you in the other channel

[fallen dragon]

Where did the / separator go between folder names???
isnt it meant to be Assets/MyScenes/

[vivid cedar]

this is likely just an error in the documentation