💬-cells-chat

[rough axle]

not without cheating/thatoneglitchedalphasavethateveryonehasapparently

[polar viper]

(thatoneglitchedalphasavethateveryonehasapparently = cheating)

we all know it

[blazing rover]

I dont but i dont wanna know

[polar viper]

its an excuse if you get caught cheating with too high RE level

[rough axle]

Everyone claims it isn’t so I have to mention it seperately

[polar viper]

"yeah i had this alpha bug, for sure, yeah totally"

[blazing rover]

Ok so septuagintillion is 100% cheated

[rough axle]

And by everyone of course I mean only the people who use it

[rough axle]

Actually it wasn’t a bug. It was a tuning oversight from a very early alpha for the reality reboot

[clear zenith]

well then there's option three: being Sepheria
but that's not obtainable for most people

[polar viper]

i did not play back then. only read it was a glitch or bug or whatever, idk.

[rough axle]

Instead of +1.002, capacitors were x1.002

Need I say more

[blazing rover]

Dear god

[polar viper]

[blazing rover]

Even being additive the capacitors are plenty strong

So being multiplicative is something

[rough axle]

It was literally impossible to spend all of your entropy/ideas because everytime you buy max’d on anything your production skyrocketed even more

And some people held onto those broken saves into future alphas and into today

[clear zenith]

goodness

[rough axle]

And of course shared them around to anyone who wanted them

[blazing rover]

Using a defunct alpha save is against tos right

[rough axle]

i dont think so

[clear zenith]

you're just not supposed to talk about it in the server is all tmk

doesn't stop people though

[polar viper]

Idk. When people want to ruin their own game experience with cheats in a semi singleplayer game.
Personally i dont care.
Its just gets pathetic, when they want to brag with their cool progress later in the discord/reddit.
Happens kinda daily

Doesnt help, that there are dozens of steam guides that tell you how to cheat tho.

Idk if that can be moderated

[clear zenith]

My guess is the only moderation is Steam, who probably doesn't care

but likewise, idc as long as it's not in the server

[dry cairn]

<@&535129309648781332>

[blazing rover]

Kick streamer 😭

No wonder he got hacked

[dreamy echo]

yep yall pinged

mb for not checking before pinging in #🏠-general

[warm umbra]

holy crypto scam city

i got one banned 3 hours ago

no point at this at all

[forest anchor]

Who even falls for this anymore...

[warm umbra]

gabrielosek apparently

he sent it in EVERY available chat

[rough axle]

Yes

That is how these things work

[warm umbra]

what astonishes me is how people manage to fall for this

[azure turtle]

!ban 904370303889702933 crypto scam

[bright otter]

Banned gabrielosek (Case #4539) (user notified with a direct message)

[clear zenith]

sweet

[azure turtle]

I deeply apologize for such a slow response 😔

[forest anchor]

It's not that big deal this time though, compared to... some other times...

[warm umbra]

fym some other times

[forest anchor]

-# took hours

[warm umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fire-flamethrower-burn-on-fire-gif-7684110515453159552

[white shadow]

how do you spin the 4 pedestals around uraniborg

[clear zenith]

Pretty sure it was overnight for most mods 🤷‍♂️

[azure turtle]

It is night for me atm

Usually Hatty is around tho

But when they aren't... welp

[rough axle]

Click them

[dreamy echo]

nah dw it was pretty fast

[dreamy plover]

Why i am that slow? I got every node and time buff, i have to restart?

For IR2

[blazing rover]

Its a kick streamer

[blazing rover]

Did you wait for your time chambers

[limpid pewter]

hello

this is a good game

[thin notch]

V1 talking about Gabriel, heh

[mellow carbon]

I'm pretty sure that if you get to the point that it's worth waiting for the time chambers to fill that it's worth empty-simming to get the most knowledge out of it.

[blazing rover]

Well they’re talking about idea production

[oblique fable]

Who the hell is this?!?!??

[frigid adder]

You (but better) (iykyk)

[fallen sand]

Electorus: Rai Stones requires Recordkeeping rather than Recordkeebing 😛

Also this event is just somehow more annoying than I expected

[unkempt flint]

recordkeebing

sounds kinda funky

annoying how tho? is it the part between coins and cash that's crazy slow?

[fallen sand]

Optimizing

Figuring out how many Coins to buy per upgrade is surprisingly easy
But trying to figure out how many CC to buy and when, to support those Coins, is rather tedious

The more Coins you want to end up with, the more CC you want to finance those Coins
The more front-loaded your CC the better (so it has more time to generate Labor), but only to a point, otherwise you delay your Coins too much

And that's just the first cross-currency. There are what, 3 or 4 more? 🤢

So far I've got to Usury in about 8h

[clear zenith]

Four currencies, five generators. The last two generators are technically the same currency.

[forest anchor]

Smh

[rough axle]

i saw that when i was making my sheet but didnt bother fixing it

[unkempt flint]

I've never thought about it that way, gee

[warm umbra]

you couldnt kill gabriel if you TRIED. and i managed to kill him TWICE

[forest anchor]

Fixed

Yes because Unregulated requires Unregulated

[rough axle]

who made that page

[vocal hinge]

What if the

[forest anchor]

Algorithmic Trading should require Future Money

It's not there but it requires cryptocurrency

"e-commerce" is it E-commerce or e-commerce?

[fallen sand]

What's really fun is that this compounds. You want to do the same for Coins->Paper Money, but this means you have to recalculate your Labor/CC for those extra Coins you're getting. And again for Paper->Electronic/Future

[rough axle]

according to my sheet its future money

[fallen sand]

The latter, like e-mail, though as long as you stick to a style guide (i.e. standardize which spelling) it's up to you

[warm umbra]

yall wanna see the fucking bastard who failed to kill me twice

[forest anchor]

Makes sense

[fallen sand]

As for in-game, I have it as e-commerce so if you're just documenting (as imo you should) then go with that

[forest anchor]

Still have to find out what Unregulated requires

[unkempt flint]

the e in electronic is lowercase e according to the game huh

[forest anchor]

I haven't played the event yet can someone notify me one day before it ends

[rough axle]

crypto

[fallen sand]

Set an alarm for 18h

[midnight acorn]

hey thats russian

[rough axle]

im praying my sheet is right

[forest anchor]

So tomorrow simply

[unkempt flint]

the fact darwinium isn't a dropdown LOL

[warm umbra]

ill show the "fucking bastard who failed to kill me twice" anyway

https://klipy.com/gifs/ultrakill-game

[rough axle]

why did you even ask then

[forest anchor]

Cryptocurrency

Hopefully

[fallen sand]

I'd tell you, but my documentation from last time is a mess so I wiped it and started anew 🙁

[forest anchor]

Better than having an upgrade require itself

[fallen sand]

да

[forest anchor]

So Algorithmic Trading requires Future Money

Got it

[midnight acorn]

mods, blow up her house shes speaking russian

[warm umbra]

is there not a russian chat

[fallen sand]

Incidentally, where did you source the requirements from? There are a few redundancies, which I can only assume came from copy-pasting the results of some magic scrying
I.e. C requires B and A, but B requires A, so there's no need to list them both for C

[prime vale]

#🇷🇺-pyccкий

[forest anchor]

I didn't do the requirements of this exploration. Deep Sea Life was about to premiere when I joined wiki development

[fallen sand]

Oh, I mean in general. I haven't actually scrutinized the ones for this event

iirc the last two (Bees and Tea) had some though

[forest anchor]

Normally it's 'what are required to make the upgrade pop up' to me, but as a goddamn ass who doesn't play/can't finish the event sometimes I just look at the tree, guess the rqs based on it and pray to god it's correct

[fallen sand]

Ah, going based on the displayed Tree would probably do it

[forest anchor]

I'm very busy atm 😔

Are there any more mandatory fixes?

[fallen sand]

Conscript Teske ;^)

[frigid adder]

Unionize

[fallen sand]

🤷‍♀️ You'd know better than I

I tend to mention things here as I encounter them; document and return later or ignore them as you will

[clear zenith]

I'm at 7/10 at the event so I can keep an eye out for Unregulated unless someone else gets there first

[fallen sand]

I certainly won't be

I may not even get to Electronic in time

[dreamy echo]

roleplay 💔

[unkempt flint]

I can probably help check from next event, but challenge 3 is like sisyphus level slow currently

[forest anchor]

If Unregulated doesn't require Cryptocurrency I'm going to be very pissed off 💔

Like c'mon

[fallen sand]

Sometimes that happens, but it's hard to tell

I'm assuming that Interest requires Recordkeeping (I know it does require Coins), based on the tree
But I never buy Coins before Recordkeeping, so I can't confirm

It's fine for Shekels, because Coins requires Precious Metals, so listing that is a redundancy and can be simplified to just Coins

Yet another reason this event is 👎

[rough axle]

in my sheet i track all requirements, redundent or not

if its connected to something, it goes on

if it requires something else but isnt connected, it goes on

[fallen sand]

So you have both Coins and Precious Metals for Shekels, as noted above?

[rough axle]

yes i do

[fallen sand]

I suppose you're not likely to miss many requirements, then

Still hard to tell if there's a requirement not encountered by 'standard' play, but that doesn't matter so much

[rough axle]

i cant fit it all on one screen but heres a snippit

the italicized ones are connected without a line

[fallen sand]

I assume you have further columns for further requirements

[rough axle]

yup

[fallen sand]

A bit overwrought for me, but I can appreciate the thoroughness

[forest anchor]

Where's the link to the spreadsheet again

Okay sorry I feel half-conscious rn

[fallen sand]

this one ? or this one

[forest anchor]

Yeah yeah I got it

[rough axle]

i forgot automod hates bitly

all the links are in my bio

[unkempt flint]

thank you for your service o7

[forest anchor]

Some day I'll check the requirements

So tedious tasks...

[unkempt flint]

let future electorus handle that

[fallen sand]

I'll post my requirements flowchart if I finish in time

[rough axle]

i will warn you i jsut copied straight from the wiki but fixed any blatent errors or things that didnt make sense so there could be some errors in my sheet

[forest anchor]

💔

Wiki isn't something I'd say believable atm

[rough axle]

oh boy if you couldve seen the comments i left before i deleted them

"whoever made the page for this event is an idiot"

[forest anchor]

I've been thinking about this for too long

But moving the wiki out of fandom might give us more editors

[fallen sand]

Mine is verified as I progress but I omit strict redundancies, and I'll miss any that aren't strictly redundant but appear so with my pathing

[forest anchor]

But doing so somehow feels like it should be decently updated

[fallen sand]

fandom is awful, but I'm not sure that migration will fix engagement issues

[forest anchor]

You have to create an account there now to edit. It prevents vandalisms, yes, but also decreases number of activities

Anyways my half-dead ass gonna have breakfast soon

[rough axle]

i should sleep soon

almost 10 pm

[warm umbra]

@forest anchor is there a way to erase your save file so u can get the old c2s nostalgia

[rough axle]

yes

the game has a built in delete save button

[vernal hatch]

What is this😭 💀

[dry cairn]

you can skip it.

i dont buy it

[vernal hatch]

I think I'll skip it

I wanna keep them cubes

[unkempt flint]

ain't it a beautiful thing

the upgrade scales in cost with the challenges btw, so imagine that this costs 4 darwinium in loop 2 and 16 in loop 3

[vernal hatch]

Damn

didn't think about it in that way

[forest anchor]

4?!

[dry cairn]

it turns to 16 on CL3

[unkempt flint]

yessir

even the 10 darwinium in the vault will not save you

[dry cairn]

i havent gotten it to 64, im sure others have

[clear zenith]

64 by CL4

[unkempt flint]

also I find it funny how the ||final 3 nodes|| basically gives a massive jump in ranking points

talk about hyperinflation in an event where inflation is a key event (real)

[forest anchor]

64 darwinium 💔

[clear zenith]

I forget what the highest legit challenge level is I've heard of someone reaching but it becomes absurdly expensive

[forest anchor]

so 1 4 16 64 256...

[unkempt flint]

correct....

[forest anchor]

Good luck if you misclick buying shit on CL5

[unkempt flint]

ahahah if you misclick on even 64 you'd already be crying

[clear zenith]

I'd cry on 3

[forest anchor]

I'd even say 2

[clear zenith]

because at that point the garden isn't enough to get my DW back

[forest anchor]

Even though 4's easily obtainable I will not lose any >:(

[unkempt flint]

you know I could still convince myself to buy 4 just to speed up to loop 3

if you have 200% badge then fine you could prob save 4

[clear zenith]

I suppose it would depend on how my leaderboard looked

[unkempt flint]

"2" yeah I'm good

div 34

massive slog tho, been playing since morning coming in for x2 every 10-15 mins and barely nudged up 5/12 progress

[forest anchor]

div 34

💔

[unkempt flint]

hey I went in first 20 minutes because that 10 darwinium x 3 loops was tempting ok

I swear this isn't a normal thing

[vernal hatch]

I can't imagine what kind of hellscape div 1 is

[unkempt flint]

ironically, it might be simpler

[clear zenith]

Highest div I've ever heard of someone getting is 7. I'm not sure 1 actually exists

[unkempt flint]

if psychologically we expect that only those who haven't ever gotten any badges want to jump in first minute to give themselves maximum time, then it'd be a breeze

[vernal hatch]

That's a good point lol

[clear zenith]

it's those people but also the sweats who are getting CL7

[unkempt flint]

but if you counter that and say that only the sweats would time entry to the minute, then gg

ya...

therefore, wait 30 minutes then enter so all the sweats went in already

[clear zenith]

more like 12+ hours

[unkempt flint]

nah, give it 1 day even

yesterday someone here was saying divs 100-200 is a bit more chill, then you have the last day, only 10 divs in 12 hours

[fathom stirrup]

Now divisions start at Number 11. Proved by Pirate 2 events ago?

[clear zenith]

I'm tempted to believe that there are just enough people starting right at the start that getting div 1 is luck-based

but obviously there's no proof of that

[fathom stirrup]

He joined literally at the first second.

[dreamy echo]

who knows, other people could too

[clear zenith]

that's what I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if many other players do the same

but obviously I can't say that for certain

[dreamy echo]

but also i kinda doubt there's 10k people that camp the button

[clear zenith]

it's just hard to confidently say whether 11 is the first div based on one account

[dry cairn]

everytime we've tried to start instantly in the past year or two, its always division 11

[clear zenith]

also more like 5k, each div is half placeholder bots

[clear zenith]

well then

[dreamy echo]

oh ok

[fathom stirrup]

#💬-cells-chat message

[clear zenith]

I was there for this lol. I'm just saying more proof is needed to be certain...but it seems like Pirate's not the first to test it

so yeah div11 is likely the first then

I wonder why

[dreamy echo]

id guess there was earlier divs before, but they were removed for some reason

oh wait

beta divs?

maybe there's 10 beta divs

[clear zenith]

I'm pretty sure it's different leaderboards entirely, but allow me to go hunt for screenshots from people I know are in beta first

[rancid matrix]

i finally reached sim level 57

[clear zenith]

ayyy me too

-# wait I might be on 58 I forgor

still congrats

[dreamy echo]

im stuck on 76, itll take me so long to get to 80

[clear zenith]

scratch that, I found a beta tester in the 100s div-wise

[dreamy echo]

which is needed for the uhh something

[dry cairn]

80 wasnt even possible until this week.

we'll all get there eventually

[dreamy echo]

oh really

huh

i saw someone at 83 today

[clear zenith]

thanks for spying on me predak

[dry cairn]

yeah, now that IR2 has been out for about a week.

[unkempt flint]

maybe when industrial revo 2 hits mobile then the 77 barrier can say byebye

[dreamy echo]

still

+3 levels is insane

i just got ir today actually

on mobile

[fathom stirrup]

I checked earlier

[clear zenith]

still counts

and good thing because I'm too lazy rn

At least I'll be staying there for a bit. Getting five levels out of my last empty sim was really stretching it

[fathom stirrup]

Have you got reality Amplifier?

[clear zenith]

great question, one moment please

I do not

my total metabits earned isn't even enough for it

two orders of magnitude too little

hecking huge boost that'd be though

[fathom stirrup]

After next Empty you'll get it. Best node.

[hoary creek]

<@&535129309648781332>

mr beast is here again

[hollow haven]

!ban 1355698237528609032 scam

[bright otter]

Banned h3llamie (Case #4540) (user notified with a direct message)

[mellow carbon]

You can. It hit mobile for me 1d6h ago, and I'm almost 82 right now. Just waiting for enough for reality continuum before I reboot.

[unkempt flint]

thank you good sirs, I got the update

[fathom stirrup]

good for you, I'm still waiting

[mellow carbon]

Enjoy. It feels really fast for the first hour or so. Then you hit a wall.

[fathom stirrup]

with TC fully charged

[mellow carbon]

That definitely helps, especially if you have a bunch of buffered knowledge so you can buy a lot of what they offer before resetting.

[fathom stirrup]

it probably has no impact for me cause I am only lvl 70

but for some "better feeling" I want to wait for IR2

[amber canyon]

I admire your goal - to optimise - and empathise with the struggle with pesky game mechanics. But am becoming intrigued as to how much better it is than competent vibes playing (which is impossible to quantity, obvs).

[unkempt flint]

I had 13 days of the previous sim, so it was just a matter of getting the next tick and suddenly e30 knowledge bits hit like a wave

excited to see what's next for ir2

[amber canyon]

Only 8 hours until I get the update 😁

[fathom stirrup]

My experience with is it is self-optimised 🙂 no big braining 🙂

[fathom stirrup]

how can you tell exact time? My GPlay store look silent about it.

[fathom stirrup]

I don't see Events and Offers 🤷‍♂️

[amber canyon]

No idea then. I just search for the game (red), click on the yellow bit, then the blue thing comes up, and I scroll down.

... Which I've just noticed tells me the update is available ... 🫠

[unkempt flint]

that's how I found out too

if possible it'd be a great idea to set this game to auto-update (on wifi), but I gotta find a way to do that on gplay

[quasi ivy]

yippie i got the updatee

time to wait for 7 days and then another 7 days!!

[unkempt flint]

minimum 5 days to fill boost to a place to finally buy new upgrades

[quasi ivy]

i wait for 7 days so that i can get half of the 14 days run which like doesnt change anything at all

[amber canyon]

Welp, it'll be nice to see these numbers change. It's been a while 👀

[quasi ivy]

real

[unkempt flint]

76d holy

[fathom stirrup]

Longer simulation than what I am playing the game for

[amber canyon]

Devs chickening out by making ||the train turn around in tunnels|| - I dEmAnd something like the Roundhouse in Derby (UK). Fully animated ofc 😁.

(Joke)

[quasi ivy]

make it run into a deer somewhere frfr

remake the asgore car gif meme but with a train

[mellow carbon]

Yes, it was nice to see it go up. It's also nice to see they seem to have set it so you pretty much have to reboot. You're still on the 21 day one? You've got the high amount of pending entropy.

[amber canyon]

I updated to the 14 day version a while ago, but haven't rebooted since then (didn't see much point until new primary content). Let's see what I can do without rebooting (I'm channeling Nora 😁).

[fathom stirrup]

'Nora' being a synonym for "making your gameplay unnecessarily hard" is golden

[quasi ivy]

guess thats gonna be a term in this community now lmao

[amber canyon]

🤷

[mellow carbon]

I got a bunch from my buffered and then rebooted to get some more upgrades. I'm gonna have to reboot at least a few more times before it becomes pointless again. I'm waiting to hit a bit over 1E36 to pick up a 250x * 6x * 6x idea boost to see if that lets me finish up IR.

[amber canyon]

May be possible? But maybe not. #💬-cells-chat message

[steady dune]

Mine is only 5 weeks

[hollow girder]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-ralsei-jevil-truck-asgoretruck-gif-18082983610987212829

[gusty remnant]

❤

[mellow carbon]

I'm currently at 5.78E35 after 36hrs. I expect to be there in a day or so; multipliers are still going up a lot. I expect I'll probably empty sim after that because there won't be much worth purchasing.

[bold agate]

How to get those 2 achievement around the monkey

And the pi

[steady dune]

That isnt monkey
And here for secrets:

[bold agate]

The pi day and the 1 who next the the monkey

1 of them is just make the sphere rotate

[jaunty jay]

fellas

what is needed to open this?

[steady dune]

Right: || wait big Ben to ring, usually every hour||
Down as Pi: || login the game on 3/14 of your local date||

[jaunty jay]

it says x1.00e145 on celestial bodies but 2200 in triton is 3.19e41

[bold agate]

Pristege 79

[jaunty jay]

or is there a counter somewhere where celestial bodies accumulates

[steady dune]

Need level 80 to get it
-# so high

[bold agate]

The lvl is stuck

Dont move no matter how many i reset and upgrade the system 🥀

[steady dune]

Wait for a week may help with 4* boost

[bold agate]

Final question

There’s 2 sandwiches achievement in support how to get them also ? Or those belong to devs or something

[fathom stirrup]

You need to accumulate 1E166 mainly with 2 new E30 generators ||(OU and CMB)||
What you see is what that node will give you when you unlock it.

[steady dune]

Watch more ads or spend money

[fathom stirrup]

by watching ads or doing some in-game purchases

[jaunty jay]

total 166? so i don't have to go back and feed into triton for example i can keep pumping into the last generators

tyty

[fathom stirrup]

Correct. Next stages will require investments into different generators.

[gray yew]

Hooray! I finally got it-are you fucking serious...

Okay, I've quadrupled its speed, and it'll still take ||nearly a day|| to make space monies.

This better be the best damn generator there is...

[forest anchor]

"[REDACTED]" sounds concerning as hell dude

😰 /nsrs

[gray yew]

okay lemme rephrase it

okay changed it

oh and i did that mission too
now i has new ||telescope||
yay

[hoary creek]

nvm im stupid its knowledge not ideas

[gray yew]

To think such a late-game trophy would be so close to the early-game area...

[hoary creek]

No

[forest anchor]

<@&535129309648781332> sounds like promotion

[somber robin]

https://tenor.com/view/thragg-invincible-slap-thragg-vs-invincible-thragg-slap-gif-12718623686914080985

[hoary creek]

just say you wont sub and hurt their feelings

[primal stump]

read rules

don't self-promotion in this server

i hope that

[hoary creek]

I still wont sub

[forest anchor]

🤷

[primal stump]

do you read the rules when you entered into a server?

[hoary creek]

first step is know the rules so start there

[forest anchor]

makes sense

there goes my chance of trying to know how to get mod

/nsrs

[primal stump]

don't worry, one day maybe

[hoary creek]

i was mod here for 9 years but i resigned after the incident

[somber robin]

Use a gif

Theyre more fancier

[forest anchor]

older than the game itself btw 💔

[somber robin]

I am interested about the "incident"

[gray yew]

maybe dont pry

[hoary creek]

it was the game yea

[somber robin]

🤔

[forest anchor]

this server lore?

🤔

[hoary creek]

just trust me

[somber robin]

Im still a newbie so i wanna know

[hoary creek]

me too

[hollow haven]

!ban 1400134142259368079 self promotion

[bright otter]

Banned letsgologs (Case #4541) (user notified with a direct message)

[white egret]

rip

[hoary creek]

evil mod

[forest anchor]

rip

🫡

[somber robin]

Didint give bro a chance 😭🙏

[hollow haven]

Bro should've used his common sense 😭 🙏

[forest anchor]

Bro passed civil court but not court of appeal 💔

[white egret]

oh hey sirH ik theres some differing opinion on this but whats the policy for modifications to the game, ik uv said before some are good

"modifications" just use mods 🙏

[forest anchor]

what is this 💔

[hoary creek]

Video

[somber robin]

Nature

[fathom stirrup]

this one is Facepalm meaning for sure 😄

[hollow haven]

I mean, there isn't really a policy, if you're just doing things for yourself, then it's all fine, but obviously what you post in this server is dictated by whether you're just straight up posting cheating-specific modifications. So I suppose the policy is: "Changes that make the game have your opinionated input are a-okay :D"

[white egret]

so just "no cheating"?

[hollow haven]

yes

[white egret]

the TOS is more strict but cool 👍

[hollow haven]

There's a TOS about this?

[white egret]

yeah

[forest anchor]

You're wrong...

[white egret]

the tldr for the TOS is "any modifications of the game violate the TOS"

[forest anchor]

Huh

[white egret]

hold on i can prob find the paragrahp

i think this is the main part

[hollow haven]

I mean, I think most games have that for some legal-related grounds that isn't really an attempt to stop users but rather other issues

it's a very generic TOS is what I mean

[white egret]

ah ic

ok well its good to know mods can be talked about freely then

thanks

[pseudo haven]

Anybody buy 4x?, the 3rd iteration would be 16 lol.

[fathom stirrup]

https://giphy.com/gifs/people-hd-gifsremastered-10Jpr9KSaXLchW

[modern crystal]

Is that from anger management

Lol

[stone phoenix]

Lmfao

[stone phoenix]

Peak 🥹

[azure turtle]

Be gone for 1 hour and suddenly there's 6 pings

[stone phoenix]

I went back to an earlier pre-reset save and lost my 1.9m mutagen and +9sx spino

[vivid notch]

Gotta get those 10 Darwiniums

[bold agate]

Fr its saved our lives

[latent kestrel]

GOD DAMN BRO

[modern crystal]

Ts so niche and emotional

🥹

[tawdry parrot]

bro

epic, this will go to my blue star fund

[tiny nexus]

Can u move...

[latent kestrel]

What's this??

[little trout]

oh yuh

new update releases today on mobile

oh uuh

I'm so happy

[tiny nexus]

Wow cool

[latent kestrel]

Cool

But someone can answer me?

[latent kestrel]

What is this

Pls😭

[fathom stirrup]

free screen

[latent kestrel]

Oh...

Ok thx

[fathom stirrup]

this is how it works... #💬-cells-chat message

[latent kestrel]

Ohhhhhh

Ok ok

[rough axle]

Behold the original version of the money stinger, with drums

[nova arch]

How to unlock all supporter achievement

[rough axle]

Watch like 2000 ads or buy Darwinium with real money

[hollow pelican]

and some of it is impossible to get now

[clear zenith]

If you're already watching ads fairly consistently, it shouldn't take too long. I got the last of the trio the other day

[white egret]

just checked and its 1000 ads or 39 bucks

[sacred wharf]

The Future Money ATM....#1 Tapper
My fingertips are numb! lol
Would be even better without the pause to transfer tho

[rough axle]

1 ad is worth 3.9 centa

[white egret]

the 2nd support is 300 ads or 19 bucks tho

and the first is 50 ads or 9.9

actually its 99 cents?

[clear zenith]

<@&535129309648781332> we got another one

[urban belfry]

report him

[hollow haven]

!ban 939824958706683935 scam

[bright otter]

Banned .dieguis2008 (Case #4542) (user notified with a direct message)

[urban belfry]

ban that guy

@hollow haven

another scammmer

[hollow haven]

!ban 1422600023564226660 scam

[bright otter]

Banned scorpionduvii (Case #4543) (user notified with a direct message)

[tawdry parrot]

I missed scams again

[tawdry parrot]

money event sir

last money event I was spending darwinium on golden clickables so it was a net loss in terms of darwinium

now that im chilling starting events early I dont have to do that anymore

[clear zenith]

woah double whammy. crypto again?

[urban belfry]

yeah

i seen that thing before

[tulip dock]

???? I unlocked future money and now my electronic money is also making those purple things but i'm not making any bankcards anymore???

To unlock blockchain I'd need bankcards

[fringe lake]

man

[tulip dock]

😭

Love those cat hairs

[clear zenith]

-# ...you could take a screenshot and avoid that issue

[tulip dock]

Imma try restrating

Starting*

[twin turtle]

Hi guys

[vivid oasis]

They're the same currency, you can buy any electronic money upgrade with future money

[twin turtle]

is there any way to see income per unit of time? i really think it would be better to see income/time instead of just flat income per tick. like X/10sec

[stone phoenix]

Human Spark is INSANE

[tulip dock]

Oh now it fixed itself, i think it was just a visual bug

Been having a hard battle of the 25th spot, been ping balling the 22nd-26th spots for hours now

[blazing prism]

game is out

[dry cairn]

As you get further into the game, everything will eventually get to a cycle time of 1 second which simplifies things. Agree that it's a hassle to do any math at your current stage.
You'll see the full amount of time listed at the start of each cycle. Or you can estimate, e.g. the bar is half done and it says 30 seconds remaining, then the total time is 1 minute.

[stone phoenix]

Total production rate lists that

[twin turtle]

how can i put this as suggestion? i dont have right to send anything in suggestion channel

[chilly vector]

Mso prestige 8

[amber canyon]

For now - #🏠-general message

[chilly vector]

Tf is that

Why does everyone just leave when I start talking

It's like

More than this server does jt

It

Wait

I'm on prestige 7 nevermind

[forest anchor]

???

[chilly vector]

What's the highest score y'all have got with a shooting star with out auto clickers

[dry cairn]

The suggestion bot was going fine for years but seems to be having problems this month. 😅 the link KF posted has the workaround.

[fathom stirrup]

event? the guy had problem with currency in his game

[forest anchor]

Ping SampeDrako with your suggestion—here or in #🏠-general

[fathom stirrup]

first time I asked this I had my personal best around 600?

[chilly vector]

What does the jukebox do btw

[fathom stirrup]

something with ingame music

[chilly vector]

Why can't we import our own music into the jukebox so we don't have to use music apps to listen to what we want

Everytime I try using a music app while trying to listen to music the game crashes or the music app does

Simple solution

Make the jukebox where we can download music or somehow put music on the jukebox and listen that way

I'm a genus

Y'all can thank me later

I need to be a game developer so bad in my life

I always have good ideas but can't do anything with them

[dry cairn]

much easier for us to mute the game music and play our Spotify than for the devs to do all that.

[chilly vector]

I just said it makes the game crash and stuff

[dry cairn]

i just searched the bug report channel and theres no reports of this. you can post there if its happening to you.

[amber canyon]

Best report it as a bug.

It is likely caused by your device struggling a bit, from what I've seen before.

[chilly vector]

Collaboration events would be cool to like movies and stuff

[amber canyon]

But recommend you've turned off the in game sound and music options.

[chilly vector]

I've already tried that before

[amber canyon]

They have done 2 already.

[unkempt flint]

the horror

[dry cairn]

The Cats event and... im forgetting the other

[fathom stirrup]

Btw definetely there is big room for improvement || (scroll a few posts above this) >||#💬-cells-chat message

[unkempt flint]

no misclick no misclick no-

[chilly vector]

Really what

[blazing rover]

There was a collab with tierzoo with the feline event

[junior adder]

oohh... monke.

[blazing rover]

Then theres also a coin flip simulator thats a plug for one of the game devs

[fathom stirrup]

easy solution is to spend your on stuff

[chilly vector]

I've got like over 400 darwinium

[unkempt flint]

that ir trophy looking very juicy

[amber canyon]

Cats and Art.

I imagine that the Devs would avoid movies because of copyright issues. However you could suggest it - #🏠-general message

[fathom stirrup]

have you purchased all modules, augments, upgrades available to you?

[chilly vector]

I've not really bought any of that stuff I was actually gonna ask what should I do with my darwinium cause I was honestly gonna save it when my infinity pass runs out

[fathom stirrup]

wait, are you playing without all of these available boosts?

[dry cairn]

I dont think I've seen anyone get it to 256. Let do it. 😅

[chilly vector]

I've bought a couple cheep things

They really don't seem like they'd make a big difference with like small boosts to simulation speed and stuff small entropy boosts

[scenic pine]

what... how am i supposed to buy it

[amber canyon]

My advice - #💬-cells-chat message

[chilly vector]

Damn research level 75

Im almost at 50

[scenic pine]

i was saving for 300 darwinium modules but at this point wouldn't it be better for me to spend them on augments for idea boosts? kinda ignored those so far

[rough axle]

Sounds like someone hasn’t filled their time chambers yet

[scenic pine]

all full

[rough axle]

Nvm then

[frail comet]

hello

[fathom stirrup]

You still have a lot of playtime before you, so a lot of to spend 😉 - all these stuff together are quite impactful 😉

[scenic pine]

maybe not having these is the issue?

[chilly vector]

How exactly do you get darwinium later on when you're done with meso

[scenic pine]

always had issues with entropy so fully ignored idea boosts

[frail comet]

...

[scenic pine]

from... meso... and beyond.. and daily

[chilly vector]

Bro winked at me twice I'm blushing

[fathom stirrup]

you can still get from meso (or Beyond) from those free stuff

[scenic pine]

and trust me, u not gonna finished meso too fast

[dry cairn]

you'll average 12-15 darwinium daily. Thats about 5,000 per year.

[chilly vector]

I can get one prestige done in a day

[scenic pine]

that's faster than me, but i kinda don't touch meso, too lazy

[chilly vector]

At prestige 7 right now after about 2 to 2 and a half weeks from when I first started playing

[amber canyon]

You're not using the x4 ad boost.

Also, you have generators you could buy - buying any generators can have a larger effect than you might expect (because of the Reality Engine nodes that grow based on generators).

[chilly vector]

I can have meso done before the weekend if I wanted to

[scenic pine]

my best idea generator would add 1,5 e140 to production, dunno if that woukd be that impactfull...

[rough axle]

Capacitors….

[chilly vector]

You get around 100 darwinium average and like 130-150 if you're lucky

[amber canyon]

In case you aren't aware, if you want the last Meso achievement it's a good idea to save mutagen up for the last prestige.

[chilly vector]

What am I supposed to do

[scenic pine]

decided lets try, spent all idea, maybe doubled my idea generation but its still nothing compared to what i need

[sullen jolt]

IR2 is out

[amber canyon]

Not spend all your mutagen getting through prestiges. I mention it, because you seem to be getting through them quickly, might not be saving up and might regret it.

[chilly vector]

Well

I have around

1,200,000 right now

And that glitch seems to be generous if I actually take my time

Haven't had the glitch happen though sense prestige 1

[sullen jolt]

Which is 1.2e6

[chilly vector]

I think exponents are way to complected I use real numbers

[scenic pine]

at least i finished beyond 26

[sullen jolt]

Well I finished beyond 30

[chilly vector]

I just made it to 13 or 14 yesterday

I'm having to heavily rely on my time chambers on the main sim already why 🙏

[amber canyon]

Well, if you're not happy with the rate with generators and ad boost, I guess it's time to reboot your universe. You could maybe try the x30 shooting star and nanobots for a bit, see if that helps enough.

I assume you know that progressing in Meso will - in addition to getting you DW - give you boost to your primary sim. As will getting event badges (slower, but not capped).

[chilly vector]

The main sim becomes a big waiting game I assume

Is it worth waiting 14 days for the second metabit boost to max

[scenic pine]

no need to flex 🥹

[chilly vector]

Lol

[sullen jolt]

How’s your new Industrial Revolution Content going?

[junior adder]

it's fine, how are you going?

[sullen jolt]

Mine is going well so far

[azure abyss]

Anyone having issues with the Model T unlock?

[sullen jolt]

Report to #1010249890414202880

[scenic pine]

not going, its waiting

[sullen jolt]

Alright

[errant cargo]

do i need to reboot for the new content? and does anyone have a hint on the new three secret achievements?

[hollow pelican]

You can see the wiki for those achievements, I'm just gonna give you hints...

[errant cargo]

i checked there first the 3 new ones are not on the wiki yet

[hollow pelican]

Wait

[hollow pelican]

it's on wiki

On the spoiler tab

Anyway it's around the uraniborg, train, big ben

[errant cargo]

thanks appreciate the hints

do i still need to reboot my universe to get the new content?

[dry cairn]

no

[fathom stirrup]

I'm so rusty with shooting stars after empty sims...

[fallen sand]

As you say, it's impossible to quantify. Moreover, it depends.
Let's say my paths are 95% of the true optimum (at least for single-currency). At a rough estimate, a casual qualitative heuristic strategy might be 80% of the optimum.
But the more you diverge from the model's assumptions, the less accurate it is. So typical players--who use ad boosts, nanobots, autoclickers, and who aren't executing second-perfect purchasing--may outperform it without any special consideration.
And the faster your progress, the less absolute benefit (in time saved) you receive. So if you can rush the event in a few hours, who cares if you save a few minutes? Conversely, optimizing becomes more useful at higher CLs.

Imo one huge benefit is in identifying large mistakes in a heuristic model, e.g. building too many/few of a generator
You can correct the heuristic without committing to strict quantitative planning

For me, I find value in the exercise itself. If I didn't, I'd probably not do it regardless of any other benefits

[amber canyon]

Agree - it's an interesting and useful exercise. I'm contemplating setting up a 'new start' account and testing a raw vibes-approach. Next time Webb appears (the shortest event).

[fallen sand]

I think you'll do well enough since you have the experience to shape decent heuristics

The variance in 'vibes-based' can be pretty large

[amber canyon]

Yep. But I only have myself as a test subject 😁.

[worn dirge]

With the new Discord activity game profiles, it's funny to see C2S displaying images from an old version.

[frigid adder]

They all require research levels to get them

[clear zenith]

Jeez that looks ancient. Can anyone confirm when that was? All I know is it's before my time (mid-2024)

[worn dirge]

Probably before it even was released

Or shortly after

[stone phoenix]

I first played like 2019-20, it was before then

[weak iron]

that was even before my time (started playing on mobile before steam early access release in december 2018, likely around september, game hadn't been out for long back then iirc, so this may have been some time in august or even september if i started playing closer to october)

[worn dirge]

Fascinating

Loong time ago for sure.

Tells you how much this game has evolved

[hollow pelican]

it's interesting that the game itself evolved

[clear zenith]

so Electorus I can confirm Unregulated shows up after you buy Cryptocurrency

[clear zenith]

how meta

[worn dirge]

I thought ideas came into development long after entropy did

Guess it was a thing from the beginning

[clear zenith]

Yeah, you kind of need both to get from cell to singularity

and I assume at least that path was available from the start

interesting that reptile wasn't a side branch though, and was just on the path there pre-Meso

[worn dirge]

Entropy = evolution and how the world works
Ideas = inventions with civilization taking off

makes sense

[worn dirge]

Yeah

[coarse narwhal]

I don't understand the downgrade

[swift heron]

Ts was before the pandemic

[clear zenith]

Technical question - I want to change the email I'm using for crossplatform saves. Would that impact my player ID or profile name? I assume not but I just want to be sure.

[dry cairn]

no. the email/password only relates to your cloud saves

[clear zenith]

awesome, thank you

[weak iron]

the reptile in that image is the same as the current tetrapod, at some point (likely when the reptile generators were added), the reptile was renamed and got a new model, you can still find the old model in the augmentations console (original tetrapod)

[clear zenith]

ohhh yeah it totally is tetrapod

[unique wing]

i recognize you from OA

hello

[stone phoenix]

Why aren't you in astrobis uit

[unique wing]

the guy's channel is cool i just don't think the discord server is really it

[quasi ivy]

guys

im gonna have to do the money event

im devastated

💔😔

[polar viper]

i mean you could just not do it

[quasi ivy]

no i have vowed to do every single event

[polar viper]

if you hate free darwinium and badges that much

[quasi ivy]

idc about the cubes

i just wanna complete every single event from now on

[polar viper]

ok mr bezos

[lone bronze]

y'all

does the limit of knowledge scene appear only when you unlock it as your final E30 goal

or can u unlock limit of knowledge before completing all 50 goals and still get the cutscene

[quasi ivy]

ah yes truly

[lone bronze]

also is octopus the final mollusk upgrade

[quasi ivy]

nope

[polar viper]

i was stuck at rubber too

[lone bronze]

.

[quasi ivy]

im not stuck at it i just gotta wait

[quasi ivy]

pretry sure there is quite some more after

[lone bronze]

DUDE ITS ALREADY AT 2E150

THATS DOUBLE THE IDEA COST OF EIFFEL TOWER

[quasi ivy]

last one is deep sea gigantism or smt

[lone bronze]

oh wait yeah

I remembered now

how much does it cost

[quasi ivy]

the eiffel tower isnt even that expensive 😭

[lone bronze]

eiffel is e150 or noqag

[polar viper]

yeah stuck like a stepsis in the washing machine.

i mean i had the same progress and need to wait for 1 empty sim

[quasi ivy]

idk im on empty sim strat rn so i cant check

[lone bronze]

octopus is 2

[sweet hedge]

Hello

[lone bronze]

oh

but is it easy for u to get the entire mollusk tree

[quasi ivy]

i got to DQig ideas instantly after i got the update so meh

[quasi ivy]

with empty sim strat yeah

[lone bronze]

how are u so op

[quasi ivy]

just playing allot

[unique wing]

yello

[lone bronze]

I'm rl 73 and I have like 90% of upgrades

[quasi ivy]

i mean grinding all dem badges helps allot and the modules

[lone bronze]

maybe cuz I don't do empty sim

[quasi ivy]

im at 79 and i was there before the update aswell

[lone bronze]

reality engine upgrades

[quasi ivy]

empty sim is very important for ur RE currency

[lone bronze]

ah

alr

[quasi ivy]

doesnt really matter for ur entropy and ideas though

[lone bronze]

yea

but reality engine matters for entropy and ideas

so I might start empty sim once I finish mollusks

to grind for ir2

[polar viper]

did you notice the human spark RE upgrade?
now you need to watch out to buy lots of humans before any big knowledge progress too

[quasi ivy]

huh

lemme check

[lone bronze]

how much knowledge does it cost

[lone bronze]

ah

I can afford it

[quasi ivy]

ah

[polar viper]

its the same idea like behind empty sim. you want it stacked before getting all the fills

[lone bronze]

I thought it was gonna be like 1e36 or sum

[quasi ivy]

yeah just get to humans and then start the knowledge stuff

isnt that complicated

[lone bronze]

im on ios

I still don't have the ir2 update

but I heard they updated the nanobots

[polar viper]

yeah but 1 thing more to keep track of 😄

[lone bronze]

❓

[quasi ivy]

i guess but like most people were alr getting humans before major idea generators anyway since its required for neolithic

[polar viper]

what do i answer on this one?

[lone bronze]

oh

[lone bronze]

I thought you were saying there was still something else

but u were talking about human spark

nvm

[polar viper]

yes true. i will just buy 1 stone age now and buy lots of humans after. not sure if it makes any difference than just autoclick buy everything regardless.

but in theory it could

[lone bronze]

game release: flatworm
(2nd) last update: flat universe

[lone bronze]

speaking of flat univers

[quasi ivy]

i mean ur top generator is industrial after the update and like if u do the stuff fast enough the major fills whouldve not happend yet and nothing whouldve really changed

[lone bronze]

holy crap yall were right

ts is hard

[quasi ivy]

the betrayal of the lack of series 1 card

[lone bronze]

I got cosmic geometry and WDYM FLAT IS 2E175??

[lone bronze]

nono

I got cosmic gravity from a blue giant

and level 7 on both sun cards

[quasi ivy]

also is this the max boost u can get from this crystal

[quasi ivy]

thats still too low 😭

i had 9 on both and still took ages

[lone bronze]

well I'm broke

I can't get blue stars or dark matter

[quasi ivy]

and with ages i mean 4 hours (thats ages for my usual speed of getting stuff)

[lone bronze]

and I heard someone say it was biased on planet x/oort cloud/a cen cards

[lone bronze]

.

[quasi ivy]

just do red dwarf missions

[fathom stirrup]

you will be asigned a number for finishing when you buy Limit of Knowledge even though you have other task still unfinished

[lone bronze]

that's what I'm doing

[quasi ivy]

can i see the cards on ur sun

[lone bronze]

both level 7

[quasi ivy]

i mean

[lone bronze]

don't have access to c2s now

[quasi ivy]

also the rare and epic ones

[lone bronze]

its on another device

[quasi ivy]

ah damn

then i cant estimate the time it will take for you

[lone bronze]

this one lags too much on the game

[lone bronze]

waitwaitwait

i js realized I have it with me rk

*rn

lemme check rq

aight

solar flares level 7

nuclear fusion level 7

solar winds level 3

speed of light level 2

[polar viper]

yeah the rares are low

[lone bronze]

cosmic gravity level 3

cosmic geometry as well

also have the aries constellation

[quasi ivy]

i mean more like send a screenie cuz there is more boosts then that that matter

this one

[lone bronze]

ah

😭

[quasi ivy]

this is going greatt!!!

anywya i gotta shower

brb

[near chasm]

am I missing something, or are nanobots horrible?

[polar viper]

just to annoy people stuck at flat universe

[iron shadow]

[dry cairn]

10x to both your Entropy and Idea for 60 seconds.
its decent.

[quasi ivy]

about 3 weeks without 4x flux

so with its like 5-6 days

but thats with doubling offline earnings

so in reality its like 10-12 days

ok imma start suffering wish me luck

[hollow girder]

right now I don't think I can get stuck at this point in the beyond

I got 2 missions left to complete

also woah when did I become ourple

[unique wing]

what is flat universe

[polar viper]

beyond e30 content.

[unique wing]

does it say enhancement at the top?

[swift heron]

Just how many red dwarfs should i have opened before ep 30

Cause rn ive opened HUNDREDS of them because im grinding constellations and im only 9/50 in the objectives

[polar viper]

hard to say. i would say if you got your sun at 7/7/3/3/3 you should be good.
but if you arent even at that point, why bother? does it make a difference where u have to wait?

[stone phoenix]

Not good enough

[swift heron]

What the hell is 7/7/3/3/3

[clear zenith]

card trait levels

[fathom stirrup]

Levels of relevant trait cards

[swift heron]

Yea ik which cards

[clear zenith]

Sun cards, in the order they're displayed if you click on it for more details

[fathom stirrup]

For Sun.

[dry cairn]

unless someone is still way back in Series 1, there isnt much prep you can control.
So you just go for it, if e30 takes a couple months, it happens.

[polar viper]

7 the commons, 3 the rares

[swift heron]

Ive got 6/7/3/2/2

[blazing rover]

Finished ep25

[polar viper]

yeah then to your answer => more red dwarves it is

you could also buy blue stars and save scum them till you get sun upgrades

[blazing rover]

And i got rank 2 cosmology

Yippee

[polar viper]

costs darwinium but the only real shortcut tbh

but i wouldnt do it before being stuck in the first place

and even if stuck, like after that there is basically nothing. so you dont really gain anything for rushing it

[surreal imp]

I'm glad I waited for industrial revolution to reset. Got a good amount of upgrades and got to 81. Now back to waiting.

[twin turtle]

is there any bonus for inviting friend to the game?

[lone bronze]

when do you predict we'll be able to get research lvl 100 without cheats

I say like, singularity II and 3 new entropy generators

[lone bronze]

or emergent age II

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[dry cairn]

If the cap increase by about 5 levels each expansion then it will take another 3 updates. So during whatever is on the Entropy side after Crustaceans.

[amber canyon]

Imma gonna expect more than 5 RL levels per expansion with my current bug 😁.

[icy leaf]

from now on, I may login cell on my phone everyday for the 4x AND DOUBLE

[dusk egret]

hi im back on CTS again

[sullen jolt]

Watermelon

[wind summit]

yall should i get the Starter CPU in cells

[warm lodge]

Yes if you can miss the money, it's not very expensive and it's a nice extra. Be sure to boost everything to the max with the temporary infinity pass that comes with it.

[wind summit]

ok

[forest anchor]

Thank you

[fluid delta]

Good. You're kinda behind, at only 79 😄

[thorny surge]

Anything to do in the vault thing after I fill up some of the currency holders? I have shells, coins, and bills unlocked so far.

[inner lantern]

you can't do anything in there until you unlock the next currency holders. just make sure they're filled all the way so you get a cool thingy

like, once you get them all, of course

[thorny surge]

Thanks. The three slot machine handle looking things are flashing, so I figure they're full. (Well, the rectangle ABOVE the handle, I mean.)

[inner lantern]

ooooh. once you get those filled, use the switch so you deposit them into the main bar things, if you haven't

[thorny surge]

Oh neat, it worked after I clicked around a few times. Thanks!

[inner lantern]

you're welcome!

and then just do that until every bar is filled on the main thingy. which is for each currency and stuff

[thorny surge]

Perfect.

[errant latch]

First time completing a event yaya

[errant latch]

U get more Mooney for filling up those

[unkempt flint]

good morning, pls when will this event end I'm on loop 4 and already slid to 6th

am tired boss

[fading drum]

18h 72m

[vernal hatch]

PLEASE I NEED THIS

My mesozoic valley is kinda geodeless

[clear zenith]

72?

[rancid matrix]

i can't keep up with the events

[rough axle]

Then don’t play them

[rancid matrix]

oh wait

its prob bc i'm focusing on meso and primary

Humor Sapiens

is the funniest humans

who is this guy

[clear zenith]

Eoraptor

[rancid matrix]

also

what if they stored data like my singing monsters

where you can only access your data in their servers with your account

[clear zenith]

I mean...pretty sure that's how cloud saves work

[stone phoenix]

Average MSM player

[rancid matrix]

eoraptor sounds like a bird

even if its a non avian dino

[rough axle]

It’s not

It’s actually one of the very first dinosaurs

Millions of years before any archosaurs evolved flight

[rancid matrix]

..in cts

[clear zenith]

well, "raptor" is both a type of dinosaur and bird

[rough axle]

Yeah where do you think I’m getting my facts from

I’m not spouting random bs

[upbeat magnet]

It's Time

[dreamy plover]

For IR 2 I should restart it?

[pure pier]

how to do empty sim

[jagged wagon]

is it worth it making use of the 7d metabit boost timer

or just reset/upgradewhenever

[vernal hatch]

How does Idea time amplifier work?

Is it like, adding x5 to max filled boost?

[dry cairn]

Yeah. I assume you already have it because the 1h chamber is x5 without it and x25 with it.

[vernal hatch]

Aight, thank you for informing me

[dry cairn]

No. Leave it full.

[clear zenith]

Start sim, buy absolutely nothing. Wait until time chambers max. Proceed with the run as you normally would.

[pure pier]

wait I have to wait for 14 days while not buying anything?

isn't that kinda too long?

[clear zenith]

Nope! It can seriously pay off; I think it's about 10000x more efficient than regular sim runs currently. What level are you at?

[pure pier]

75

[clear zenith]

ah yeah so it should be the fastest way of progressing

[dry cairn]

If a 7 day run will get you upgrades that will increase your production by +50% or more, then a 7 day run can be better.

[pure pier]

Does it also work when I start a regular sim, then buy generators and wait for time chambers to get max? Will it show the same outcome or not?

i guess not right

[dry cairn]

Entropy and Idea might be similar. Metabits and Knowledge are what see a big increase with empty sim.

[clear zenith]

The issue is that the time it takes for the metabit and knowledge bars to fill slows way down after two weeks of fills, and the time chamber boost isn't applied retroactively

[fallen sand]

The multiplier from time chambers would still 'work' for Entropy/Ideas, but would be mostly wasted for Metabits/Knowledge.
The problem is that whenever you fill the containers which Metabits/Knowledge, the amount you get is locked in at that time--i.e., with the time chamber multiplier you had when you filled the container

And because it gets harder to complete each successive fill, you basically have a soft limit on 'fills per run'. So any fills you get before maxing your time chambers are fills you're not getting with max multipliers

Remember that the Time Chambers are multiplicative with eachother - so a 5x boost and a 10x boost combine to make 50x. This means maxing all your time chambers gives a huges boost, so you really want to get the most out of it.
Hence, it's better to waste 14 days sitting around doing nothing, then get all your fills at a huge boost, than it is to do anything else with a smaller boost.

Somehow, the devs think this state of affairs is less confusing than just updating your Metabits/Knowledge amounts as you go. I don't agree.

[clear zenith]

-# you might be interested in some of Lunch's recent messages in #💬-beta-chat

[fallen sand]

🙏

[clear zenith]

I have hopes :)

[fallen sand]

https://tenor.com/bQd5l6VYTyu.gif

[unique wing]

i need a mod

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[primal osprey]

Нет

[amber canyon]

I've gone into an empty sim with my main save file so I'll be behind for quite a bit 🤷.

Still trying to keep my universe resets as low as possible. And not in a rush to get through this update and hang around waiting for the next.

[eternal timber]

Has anyone gotten "flat universe" in beyond yet? It seems very expensive for the generators I now have

[primal stump]

?

Explain

[unique wing]

suspicious account in my dms, where do i send the screenshots of their activity?

[eternal timber]

||The sun is currently my highest producer at 6.14e168/s (I have 2849 suns) Venus is significantly less productive at 2.60e167 but it still seems to take weeks to get to the 2e175 required for flat universe||

[primal stump]

Send me DM

[unique wing]

okay

[white egret]

yeah this is a common complaint, i think its just designed to take a while

[amber canyon]

If you are close to ranking any of your traits for ||the Sun|| you could try do that. Otherwise, make sure you have both constellations and use the x4 ad boost (if you can).

[vernal hatch]

||Do early generators become powerful in endgame?||

Just curious

[amber canyon]

For certain things, yes. Those people who farmed a lot of ||Red Dwarf cards (for DW and constellation fragments)|| while getting to end game are in a faster position (minutes / hours rather than weeks / months) than those who didn't. It's not usually something that can be fixed quickly though.

[vernal hatch]

That's interesting

I'll certainly remember that

[amber canyon]

It was certainly unexpected!

But - if you log on relatively often, a 2 x White Dwarf and 3 x Red Dwarf load in astronomy missions is the best for getting DW and fragments - so worthwhile doing.

[vernal hatch]

Thank you

What would you prefer, between doing dark matter researches and red dwarf ones?

[amber canyon]

(unless you haven't yet bought ||Auriga|| constellation - in which case swapping a RD mission for the constellation mission will help with fragments)

[amber canyon]

I rarely had to do dark matter missions - but if you are very short, then picking the one that aligns with how often you log in is best.

Ofc, only upgrading the generators that produce most for you (not all of them) is the best way to not need loads of dark matter.

[spring yarrow]

I have the same problem but my sun is at lvl 2800 but it's making only 1.2e167/s

So only way is to upgrade sun and wait ?

[amber canyon]

Yep. Do remember, there's no rush. Once you get to the end of E30, that's it.

[spring yarrow]

I don't think I am missing any upgrades but low on rare higher rarity cards

[amber canyon]

If you have DW, you could buy Blue Stars 🤷.

[spring yarrow]

True. True, but looks like it will be a long grind like always

[spring yarrow]

Kinda keeping those to max out all upgrades for primary simulation

[amber canyon]

I guess with it being the end, the Devs wanted to give most people.something to grind 😁

[spring yarrow]

True. Thanks for info anyway and happy grinding I guess 😅

[amber canyon]

The difference in time taken is surprising though. I got example have my stage 1 golds all at 5. That X2 per level massively shortened my time.

[hoary creek]

is save scumming to get the traits i want considered cheating

[amber canyon]

Do you consider it cheating? I don't think as a community we've 'decided' one way or the other 😁.

[spring yarrow]

Damn yeah that's huge difference. But for those you would need to buy blue stars to get a lot of cards for upgrades or grind a bunch of red dwarfs

[amber canyon]

Some codes available here - https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Codes

[hoary creek]

well alright then, i do it because i dont like the rng system

especially because stars are seemingly rigged against sun cards or something (i think it just prefers giving your best generators)

[fallen sand]

As far as I can tell, lootboxes rewards are weighted to best/latest, yes

[spring yarrow]

Great tip but already done those 🙂

[amber canyon]

Be aware re that the RNG is heavily weighted to later Stage 1 generator traits, so trying to get Sun traits that way will take a while - especially if you're a long way from levelling a trait. (This made sense for most of the game).

Anyway, Golds and Silvers can be got that way.

[fallen sand]

Did we verify if you can cheese Sun rewards yet?

[hoary creek]

it would still take too long lol

and spend thousands of darwinium

[amber canyon]

I agree. But then I wasn't / am not short of anything 😁.

[amber canyon]

It is certainly possible to use the cross-platform save manager to ||re-roll lootboxes for better RNG; you get different rewards||.

[fallen sand]

I meant opening without getting any other generators, at the start of an Episode

[amber canyon]

Whether it's a good use of people's time ... Well, that's up to them.

[eternal timber]

Good point, I've been doing white dwarf repeatedly, didn't think about the red dwarfs being more powerfull now, thanks!

[amber canyon]

Oh, I tried that in E29. I still got traits from generators I hadn't unlocked. I don't know if the RNG weighting was present though.

[fallen sand]

Speaking of good uses of time, I've almost solved up to Paper Money

I will absolutely not finish the event though

[amber canyon]

Solving it is more interesting!

[fallen sand]

Exactly! I'm now at the point where as long as I can correctly order the upgrades, I can iteratively add in generators instead of manually rejigging every time

Unfortunately the documentation of the upgrade tree seems to be untrustworthy so I'm limited by my actual progress

[amber canyon]

My 'good ise of time' isn't far off being 'done'. On the last round of events to set up my badges so I can test if the diminished badge boost is affected by how many badges you are missing in what combo (it clearly isn't, but y'know, I started so I'll finish). Obvs the diminishing return badge boost graph's x-axis is incorrectly labelled.

[fallen sand]

So it's based on your nominal badge boost rather than the number of badges? That would certainly be 'fairer'

[amber canyon]

It was pretty obvious it was, by inspection. But I still decided to verify. (Tescoo did scry with magic and confirmed too).

[fallen sand]

"Trust, but verify"

Oh, speaking of fair, apparently we may actually get dynamic metacurrency calculations!
#💬-cells-chat message

[quasi ivy]

Money event has some strategy to it which is cool ig

doesnt stop me from hating on it though

i mean the metabit boost is suposed to be slower

and less powerfull

[amber canyon]

Nvm. Sorry. Wrong brain in today ...

[fallen sand]

The values, or the formatting? The formatting seems to match the behaviour elsewhere: up to 3 decimal places until it's large enough to force the swap to engineering/scientific

[amber canyon]

I'd been poking around in the stats tab and noticed weird stuff, and assumed it was the same there 🤷.

[quasi ivy]

i personally dont wait out the 14 days, instead i reset at 7 days cuz that is a good enough boost for me and its less waiting

[amber canyon]

But that file seems to have some weirdness.

[quasi ivy]

cough cough the darwinium modules cough cough

[amber canyon]

And the rest. Also - https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1496536692390363316

Anyone at RL79-81? Do you know how many chips you have?

[amber canyon]

Yah, I'm still keeping this low though 🫠

[quasi ivy]

😭

[amber canyon]

I also noticed that my main game with X2 time slipping is getting the daily rewards hours later than the scratch file. Trying to work out why atm ... Or if is just something I accidentally did.

[quasi ivy]

technically since im only grinding for knowledge rn i could get everything entropy related