💬-cells-chat

[fallen sand]

I played some years ago, so I had some legacy boosts grandfathered in from pre-RR, but I did a reset of primary sim when I restarted this year

Take it up with CL 😉

[clear zenith]

Oh

Well this is a "context matters" situation

[tawdry parrot]

devs please make it top 15 instead of top 10 😭

[gray yew]

That reminds me
I still wanna make that chart of prices in the extinction event

[fallen sand]

Oh? What's this about

[gray yew]

I just find it interesting in the event how prices continuously rise and fall as you progress

Like after an extinction
They plummet for a while

(Usually)

[fallen sand]

Like that?

That's the order I purchased them in, anyway

[tidal briar]

i missed the end of another event are you kidding me

[amber canyon]

I remember the AMA thing the Devs did about cheese. Context does indeed matter. Smh about their USA cheese views and preferences.

[dry cairn]

The math isnt mathing with the 5x Research Boost for Beyond Astronomy Missions?
Red Dwarfs should take 1h12m but I swear they are taking 1h30m which would be a 4x boost.

[fathom stirrup]

I think math is correct in my case.

[amber canyon]

Always been like that (although not checked recently). Presumably because a x1 boost has no effect.

[dry cairn]

The Gemini Constellation?

[rough axle]

iirc the +1 boost doesnt work offline for some reason

[amber canyon]

Gemini? No. Just that a x1 boost is x1 of the boost. And 1 x anything = anything.

[rough axle]

i have a note on it in my spreadsheet but i dont remember wher i heard it

[amber canyon]

I could ofc be making up a 'Just So Story' about it.

[amber canyon]

That Oliver guy, probably 😉

[dry cairn]

so potentially we get 4x offline and 5x online.

[turbid mica]

I really don't like cheese I think it's horrendous, what's wrong with all of you lol

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-mario-movie-nuts-i-think-youre-nuts-youre-nuts-gif-1560934855605426686

[amber canyon]

Anyway, update on the beta-board. Since 25 Mar (when the ||IR2|| patch dropped) ||I have dropped from 250th to 600th. I have seen the occasional person I managed to stalk get to RL80, but it largely seems to be people getting to RL79 (warning, confirmation bias as we can no longer see the top 200 directly).||

Not sure how useful this info is 🤷

[sudden dome]

grinding for top 10 in events is actually super darwinium efficient since you get 200 darwinium worth of rewards

assuming you are like me and still grinding for something in both beyond and meso

[tawdry parrot]

LINEAR SCALING

[amber canyon]

😉

[tawdry parrot]

trapezium scaling I mean

[tawdry parrot]

cheese is healthy

[fluid delta]

No it’s not

[turbid mica]

At least I love milk 😂😂🥛 can't report me for that!

[fluid delta]

Milk isn’t healthy either

[tawdry parrot]

theres a reason the US government has cheese caves full of cheese

[fluid delta]

And cheese is just milk in another form, so how you can like milk and not cheese… confuses me

Nono, the caves are not made of cheese, that would be ridiculous

[rough axle]

well i like french fries and not potatos

[tawdry parrot]

its a conspiracy theory

[amber canyon]

Full of cheese ...

[fluid delta]

If you like french fries, you like potatoes, bc FF are made of potatoes

[tawdry parrot]

with good seasoning and technique u can make potatoes tasy

[turbid mica]

https://tenor.com/view/its-the-smell-gif-20892754

[fallen sand]

...cooking changes the properties of its ingredients

[tawdry parrot]

they're also very filling

[fallen sand]

This is not uncommon, nor relegated to the US

[fallen sand]

It's not unhealthy 🤷‍♀️

[tawdry parrot]

yes but I just so happen to have watched a video about it

[fluid delta]

Doesn’t mean that that they aren’t what they are. Ofc I am pushing back in part bc specificity.. or imprecision, however you want to call it 🙂

[tawdry parrot]

they still believe saturated fat is bad for you

[fallen sand]

I can't parse this

[quasi ivy]

its cheese time

[tawdry parrot]

dont start yet

[fluid delta]

It’s not healthy, excepting same-species milk when nursing very early in life

[quasi ivy]

i know 😭

[amber canyon]

I think I can prove that cheese is unhealthy! I reckon 99% of EVERYBODY that's ever eaten cheese is no longer alive. And it's bad for your morals - most people in prison have likely eaten cheese.

[fluid delta]

Like, saying you love french fries but you don’t like boiled potatoes is totally valid

[quasi ivy]

omg hes onto something

[amber canyon]

Or at least eating cheese means you get caught breaking the law 🤔

[turbid mica]

Does that mean we should only have beast milk as babies

And no other milk 🍼

[tawdry parrot]

read this before starting the event, u can CTRL+F the word 'cheese' https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2020.05.077#sec-3

[fluid delta]

yes.. nutritionally anyway

[amber canyon]

No.

[fallen sand]

I agree. Doesn't that contradict to what you said earlier?
I was rejecting your assertion that

cheese is just milk in another form
Notably, the just part, because that's the crux of your stated confusion
how you can like milk and not cheese
The answer is because cheese is not just milk in another form; it's been transformed sufficiently that one can like the qualities it has that milk does not (or even the proportions of those qualities), or vice versa

[amber canyon]

You can even like some cheeses and not others.

[tawdry parrot]

Gouda is the best

[rough axle]

jsut like how pigs make like a dozen different meats and they all somehow taste different

[fallen sand]

I suspect what you mean by 'healthy' is the main issue here
Most humans can consume milk, and gain benefits from donig so while not suffering significant detriments

[fluid delta]

Darn. One point to you. Hoisted by my own imprecision 😄 .. I shouldn’t have used the word “just” there

[tawdry parrot]

Some people are lactose intolerant

[amber canyon]

Hmm. I have simple tastes. The best cheese is whichever one I'm currently eating. Or that I fancy eating.

[fallen sand]

Mlik is not the miracle cure that the dairy industry purports it to be, but it's not poisonous or without merit

[tawdry parrot]

They have to fortify every plant-based milk to simply match the nutrient profile of cow milk

[fluid delta]

Sure. Humans can eat and metabolise a lot of things.. some of those things are good in the short term but harmful in the long term, and so we get the so-called “diseases of aging”, of which artherosclerosis is one of them (very largely caused by dietary choices)

[tawdry parrot]

atherosclerosis is caused by sugar not cholesterol

[fluid delta]

Many plant-based milks aren’t particularly healthy either. You can make passable substitutes for cereal and the like, though

[fallen sand]

Many more than you'd think, even! iirc there are even multiple kinds of intolerance and thus multiple methods to address it
Like, you can even just 'force' your gut bacteria to adapt a lactose-tolerant biome the same way you can 'force' it to adjust to beans, or whatever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h90rEkbx95w

[amber canyon]

Diseases of aging are not just caused by eating/metabolising.

[tawdry parrot]

Ive adapted to protein products it seems then

[cedar jungle]

The way this is how you build tolerance by freaking out your body so much it just lets it happen

[fluid delta]

No it’s not. But sugar consumption concurrently def plays a role, and in general a lot of sugar is pretty bad for you.

[amber canyon]

Anyway. Life is more than min-maxing food/metabolites.

And - for me at least - cheese is tasty, and one of life's pleasures.

[fluid delta]

Yes, but that’s why I mentioned one specific example

[tawdry parrot]

LDL isn't a good predictor of heart disease, triglycerides to HDL ratio is, lots of sugar leads to increased triglycerides

[fluid delta]

Cheese can be tasty, yeah

[amber canyon]

Your phrasing looked like you were saying that food caused all diseases of aging.

[cedar jungle]

I mean

Anything can give you cancer

[dry cairn]

reminds me of OIT allergy micro-dosing.
makes sense, if you keep introducing lactose into you body, you could start producing more lactase again.

[tawdry parrot]

medical guidelines and practices evolve over time

[fallen sand]

I'm not well read enough to have an opinion of atherosclerosis causes but I am skeptical that milk specifically has a significant adverse effect on long-term patient health, especially compared to the rest of a typical diet

[fluid delta]

It’s somewhat complex. Diet plays a big factor in human lifespan.. unfortunately. Unless you are one of the lucky few with great genetics

[fallen sand]

Unfortunately the science of dietary impact on patient health is really not settled in any definitive way

[amber canyon]

I imagine there's several factors.

Do you have the 'can digest lactose gene' and is your body used to it in your diet.

[fluid delta]

Yeah, I’m not being as precise as I could be in this little discussion, heh

[fallen sand]

A lot of that's due to the influence of industry lobbying but there is a lot of change of the scientific consensus from decade to decade

[quasi ivy]

huh

[quasi ivy]

huh

[fallen sand]

We're discussing if milk is bad for you since it's the cheese event
We obviously didn't do this for disease because everyone already knows ||disease is good for you||

[fluid delta]

In general, animal-derived foods tend to be bad for humans.. if you want to avoid heart disease or strokes when you reach age 55+, you usually need to avoid them.. and crap veg substitutes too, since things like potato chips are junk food and harmful as well

[fallen sand]

I got #88 btw!

[tawdry parrot]

This is oudated advice based on population studies from the 50s

My doctor tells women to eat red meat for iron

[amber canyon]

Almost as if it's hard to do the science. And things change. And different science gets funded. And becomes more widely spread. Now where's that glass of red wine that all those studies tell me is heathy?

[fluid delta]

No it isn’t. You can literally reverse atherosclerosis with the right sort of diet regimen

[tawdry parrot]

alcohol is a poison and carcinogen

[fallen sand]

Yeah, fair enough. I'd probably revise my argument to be that 'milk is unhealthy for certain definitions of healthy, but is not especially significant in comparison to other common dietary choices'

[tawdry parrot]

We haven't gotten any healthier since doing any of this

Heart disease was rare before the introduction of refined flour and sugar

[quasi ivy]

ofc they always cue outbreaks and right after cheese it all makes sense now

[fluid delta]

All I am trying to express here is that milk, while tasty (for some), is usually not a health-positive choice

[forest anchor]

Wow, I'm in #💬-cells-chat right now?
Thought I was in a room full of doctors in a hospital

[fluid delta]

That’s tangential to what I said

[quasi ivy]

cells chat is for doctors

in a hospital

and jester update truthers

[fallen sand]

I'll continue to disagree but without doing the reading it'll stay a difference of opinion 🤷‍♀️

[tawdry parrot]

Sure but usually the health gains come from removing sugar and processed foods, that happens to the vegan diet as well

[forest anchor]

Gah

[fluid delta]

Not true, actually. It just wasn’t as visible, for various reasons.

[dry cairn]

we can make it a tradition every time the Cheese event comes up 😄

[amber canyon]

I'd probably go for - as part of a balanced diet milk and cheese fine. If you eat rubbish (lots of modern first world processed food) you probably should cut down. If you're one of the other 4 billion people, you could probably benefit from more.

[forest anchor]

Evolutionary diagnoses

[tawdry parrot]

at some point you'll have to budge

[fluid delta]

Removing sugar and overly processed foods is a wise idea, yes

[quasi ivy]

too bad im dutch and lactose is cool

[tawdry parrot]

anyhow we can argue all day, do blood tests and discuss this with your doctor

[fallen sand]

To interject with something slightly more relevant, I dun goofed

[forest anchor]

So is this cheese or outbreaks actually

[tawdry parrot]

I take in a lot of saturated fats from red meat, dairy and eggs and my blood tests come out perfect

[fallen sand]

Or maybe not

[quasi ivy]

both it seems

[fallen sand]

When precisely is your divison determined?

Mine seems to still be displaying the last event

[forest anchor]

Reasonable

[tawdry parrot]

If something fishy pops up I'll deal with it

[quasi ivy]

feesh

[amber canyon]

Raw unpasteurised milk: outbreaks
Cheese: cheese
USA cheese: waaaaaaaay over there. Beyond Beyond.

[quasi ivy]

also we still cant see the upcoming events 💔

[forest anchor]

sordfeesh /ref?! /j

[dry cairn]

=when you buy the 1st generator

[quasi ivy]

i feel like human body is coming

[tawdry parrot]

Fish is great, fatty fish for the omega 3s

[quasi ivy]

and music

[fluid delta]

The nice thing about reality is that it is going to do what it is going to do, people’s opinions be damned. I don’t really care what you all eat, I’m more just saying that diet is pretty well understood, but as it intersects with culture and psychology, it can be a sensitive subject sometimes, heh

[forest anchor]

Uhh... okay... I don't understand

[sudden dome]

BEYOND EPISODE 29 SPOILERS why is the stardust objective here if it requires so much less than the ||great attractor|| quest?

[fallen sand]

Oh, good. I opened it but I've been sitting here not playing it at all

Thought I might have joined a hardcore divison for no benefit

[amber canyon]

Sometimes a bit later? I think it might be cost based. So a cheap first generator lets you get a few before you get a div.

[forest anchor]

For the sake of making it look difficult /nsrs

[rough axle]

probably from before The Nerf™

[sudden dome]

anyone have tips for what to do in beyond right now tho?

[quasi ivy]

ah yes my favourite movie

[sudden dome]

it seems kind of crazy to go from just unlocking it to getting 10 ranks

[quasi ivy]

"The Nerf"

[gray yew]

i feel like that actually could be a movie tho

[amber canyon]

Just a (weak) joke.

[forest anchor]

Yeah I can see that

[rough axle]

its not 10 ranks its 10 levels (equivelant to rank 1)

[forest anchor]

I wanna watch The Buff rn

[tawdry parrot]

did u guys experience the clock moving forward?

[sudden dome]

ohhh yeah i never noticed that

[quasi ivy]

evil c2s devs making e29 harder while the playerbase tries to press the buff button

[tawdry parrot]

why did the end of e28 have to be much harder than the rest ;-;

[quasi ivy]

e29 is uppon you

[tawdry parrot]

bro let me experience e30 like the cool kids

[forest anchor]

Wdym...

[amber canyon]

And then E30 ...

[turbid mica]

I have been trying to have more whole foods and have felt bad about buying farmed salmon, most of it is farmed in the supermarket

[tawdry parrot]

day light saving time

[quasi ivy]

e29 and e30 need some balancing and i feel like cheese needs a bit of a rework

[forest anchor]

My region does not have that, so... whatever

[amber canyon]

Funny sounding supermarket. 😁

[tawdry parrot]

Salmon is great but expensive, I dont know if farmed salmon is much worse than wild. BUT there's cheaper fatty fish too

[forest anchor]

Gah here's one more advertisement for #🏠-general— nevermind I don't really like it these days

[tawdry parrot]

like sardines and herring

[tawdry parrot]

something something ocean garden

[quasi ivy]

cheesy

[fathom stirrup]

you sound very grumpy lately

[amber canyon]

I wish I liked fish ... More than just white fishand tuna.

[tawdry parrot]

his clock didnt move forward thats y

[forest anchor]

Yeah, of course! I kinda get irritated very easily atm

[quasi ivy]

he doesnt share the wavelength yet

[fathom stirrup]

I was worried I would get banned for cheating!

altering the time

[quasi ivy]

imminent death aproaching

[tawdry parrot]

I should have played c2s while the clock moved foward, maybe I would have been put in division #666

[fathom stirrup]

Is this welcoming ceremonial badge you get? Sooo fancy

[amber canyon]

Anyway, not gonna start the cheese event until I have to. Glad to see the back of disease 😁

[tawdry parrot]

what event after cheeeeese

[quasi ivy]

yes its very peak and jestery

[forest anchor]

I'm struggling with irl problems—but it's embarrassing to share—!

[quasi ivy]

im thinking human body or cheese

[rough axle]

not cheese

[quasi ivy]

last time music was after cheese

[fathom stirrup]

we all have our own burdens to carry - understandable

[tawdry parrot]

I vaguely remember music

[quasi ivy]

then fungi then human body

weird difficulty curve coming!!!!

[tawdry parrot]

I want to have 30% boost in all events

[amber canyon]

At a guess music

[fathom stirrup]

none of these mentioned ones I experienced, so it is highly probable to witness

[quasi ivy]

yeah as i said

spooky spring may be incoming again aswell

so i get to do cryptids again after ages

[fathom stirrup]

Best position so far...

[tawdry parrot]

mr spreadsheet

[forest anchor]

Congratulations

[quasi ivy]

ohhh nice

[rough axle]

doubt it

[tawdry parrot]

ask gpt to color code and add icons to each event name

[quasi ivy]

must be annoying if u keep quiting during oktober and keep missing cryptids

[fathom stirrup]

why though - AI overload

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-been-summoned-gif-19881033

[forest anchor]

more like "master of spreadsheets", just like "master of threads" (#💬-cells-chat message)

[quasi ivy]

[tawdry parrot]

so its prettier

[fallen sand]

Just use conditional formatting, it's nearly as quick and doesn't outsource your brain to a stochastic parrot

[tawdry parrot]

I dont remember typing that

[forest anchor]

Good, master of memory span

[tawdry parrot]

today is brain day

[quasi ivy]

human body intensifies

[tawdry parrot]

life with infinity pass feels good

[quasi ivy]

my favourite difficulty curve

[amber canyon]

I'm not sure how I'd colour code that list 🤷.

[quasi ivy]

by game icons i guess

[forest anchor]

Difficulty curve resembling my heartbeats when I play the exploration, of course

[fallen sand]

Human Body, oh how I despise thee

[quasi ivy]

its all ment to be

[fallen sand]

Average color of the event icon 🤓

[amber canyon]

Huh. So not adding info then. I'll leave it 😁.

[quasi ivy]

its the only one with a weird out of line curve aswell 😭

[tawdry parrot]

why is there 1 sticking out at the bottom in the badge screen

[quasi ivy]

cryptids intensifies

[tawdry parrot]

it has a single badge?

[quasi ivy]

yeah

[tawdry parrot]

nooo

[quasi ivy]

its a mini event so

[clear zenith]

Wait, what's wrong with USA cheese views?

[amber canyon]

I'll colour it by be max score if the full name of the event was played as the first word in Scrabble, 'K?

[quasi ivy]

makes getting huge boosts on cryptids hard as hell aswell

cuz its a 5% badge last time i checked

[forest anchor]

Scrabble mentioned rahh— sorry

[tawdry parrot]

im missing fungi, music, cheese and cryptids

[tawdry parrot]

when was the last time each event happened @amber canyon

[dry cairn]

The cryptid badge is only a 5% ?!

[tawdry parrot]

we are screwed

[amber canyon]

IIRC the Devs were asked about their favourite cheeses by chat. Answers were:

• I like the one on pizza, is it mozzarella?
• I'm vegan, so it's vegan cheese for me (NOTE: not even a type of vegan cheese).
• I don't like cheese really.

[rough axle]

when it was first in beta i asked it to be changed to 30 but that didnt happen

at least make it 15 so its like the other final badges

[clear zenith]

Pain. This is pain. I promise not all USers are this dumb about cheese

I could go into which mozzarella I like more

[amber canyon]

The bold ones in the spreadsheet list are the last (completed) start dates. And Cryptids last started on 30 Oct 25.

[forest anchor]

🫡

[tawdry parrot]

all they know is american cheese (which isnt even real cheese)

[clear zenith]

And how it isn't the only cheese you can put on pizza

[tawdry parrot]

I dont have the spreadsheet

ah the screenshot

[amber canyon]

#💬-cells-chat message

[clear zenith]

Time to kind of mildly dox myself but Cabot seriously sharp cheddar is good cheese

[forest anchor]

Cheese...

[clear zenith]

Cheese

[forest anchor]

I didn't even know they have types

[clear zenith]

What

[hollow pelican]

Cheese type 1

[forest anchor]

Seriously though, found out there're kinds of cheese just after looking into the wiki page of the exploration

[clear zenith]

My brain hurts

[fallen sand]

How is it that every statement of theirs lowers my opinion of them further

[forest anchor]

I'd heard some like Mozzarella and Cheddar but didn't really think about the differences

[clear zenith]

Cheese isn't just cheese

[tawdry parrot]

I came back after the redline, missed out on the 2 events I needed 😔

[sweet hedge]

Cheese is 42

[rough axle]

?????

oh right canned cheese

[hollow pelican]

The answer is Canned Beh

[clear zenith]

There's a bajillion types of blue cheese, let alone every other type of cheese out there

[tawdry parrot]

but yes hopefully music and fungi will be next

[forest anchor]

I don't like cheese personally, and don't think it's that famous here. People just say cheese

[tawdry parrot]

if thats the case then I only need cryptids

[clear zenith]

But there's such a wide variety 😭

[tawdry parrot]

how often have we had cryptids, wasnt it 7 times only?

[clear zenith]

Huge freaking difference between, say, parmesan and brie

[amber canyon]

Idk. I put it down to them being USA, and quite young. Not everybody knows much about cheese 🤷.

[forest anchor]

I don't even know the latter 😔

[amber canyon]

5

[hollow pelican]

I know Black Cheese

[forest anchor]

Heard of it but idek what's it

[dry cairn]

We've had Cryptid 5 times.
I assume 3 Halloweens and 2 random times?

[rough axle]

4 halloween and the random spooky spring last year

[dry cairn]

or 2 halloweens and 3 random times

[hollow pelican]

why are you a URL now 😭

[amber canyon]

Twice at two Hallowe'ens. Once in May.

[clear zenith]

I guess I had a good family because I'm a barely adult American who can name more than three types of cheese 😭

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/yogurt-spaceballs-mel-brooks-merchandising-gif-20198466

[fallen sand]

They made a whole event about it!

[hollow pelican]

smart

[tawdry parrot]

bro

I dont want to wait until halloween

[forest anchor]

This is not really about 'good family' or not, is it?

[amber canyon]

CL did. But did those guys? 🤷

[tawdry parrot]

Face Your Fears happened 3 times in 2025

[fallen sand]

Do you mean that the ones answering the question did not work on the event?

[tawdry parrot]

does mini event mean its shorter than other events??

[amber canyon]

You could try pushing for a May one. I don't think he Devs were planning it, until lots of people started making noise about a year being too long to wait.

[forest anchor]

Less generators—less nodes

I'm leaving, until we meet again

[tawdry parrot]

then its fine

[fallen sand]

Because that just means that instead of the same devs having bad takes across multiple instances it's multiple devs having bad takes independently

[strange lark]

dont let the mr jester catch you

[tawdry parrot]

I am saying all of this because I'd like to get enough boosts in each event so that I can quickly finish them after I stop playing as much due to completing all the content in the other simulation

[amber canyon]

I don't recall if the event designer was there. It was a while ago. But these update / AMA things are a bit weird. I've stopped bothering with them.

[fallen sand]

It's a little strange because many games have a set event order tied to calendar with maybe some ad-hoc here and there. C2S has a lot of events, but only Cryptid seems to be scheduled.

[hollow pelican]

Jestredator

[clear zenith]

Good upbringing I mean, and I'm mostly joking

[gray yew]

It’s a “mini” event, so I guess that makes it “special”

[amber canyon]

I used to track and monitor the event order and how the cycle changed. I stopped at the RR (I just grab the data).

My theory was roughly standard order, but if it was e.g, a CL employee's birthday they got to choose the event running on that day.

[fallen sand]

Oh, interesting

[amber canyon]

(if you need instructions, let me know).

[tawdry parrot]

#💬-cells-chat message

How did I complete outbreak during cat event 🤔

[gray yew]

Toxoplasmosis?
/not serious

[tawdry parrot]

oh my god, so pretty and information

[amber canyon]

The glitched event!

Maybe not ...

[gray yew]

I didn’t have such a system, but I did notice that some events (like philosophy and human body) always seemed to happen right next to each other.

[clear zenith]

That's a funny contrast. Physical body vs mind

[tawdry parrot]

it was

back when the game was fresh for me

good old days

[amber canyon]

Was it you that was here giving us updates on your progress (racing to try finish) and everybody had been chucked out apart from you?

[tawdry parrot]

yes

[amber canyon]

Def good times 😁

[fathom stirrup]

Graph looks like it was inspired by Cats progression tree

[tawdry parrot]

we've grown up

someone with 800 badges would have a crazy boost

[fallen sand]

Ugh, I forgot that Milk has 1.4 scaling

[fathom stirrup]

Kinda reminds me of some folks here

[fallen sand]

If I didn't need the 3rd badge I'd consider skipping

[clear zenith]

Would 20min from now be too early to start the event if I've got 4x and 15% badge bonus?

[tawdry parrot]

yes wait

[fluid delta]

To get 3 badges? No, not at all. To get Top 10? You should probably wait

[clear zenith]

I've never got top 10 😅
I'm really just angling for top 25

[amber canyon]

There's a decent number of them. I have been known to stalk for players with full (or nearly full) badge counts. Not found one that managed to get more than one of your Disease event badges yet though.

[fathom stirrup]

With badges it could be possible for you later 😉

[clear zenith]

It's hard because I like collecting big rewards but I'm an impatient little guy

[clear zenith]

Yeah top 10 for me is probably a few months away

[tawdry parrot]

muhahaha

[fathom stirrup]

If you are lucky to get not very active division, it could happen every week 😎

[tawdry parrot]

Is there more or am I done here?

[amber canyon]

Just think of it as thematic. Cheese takes time.

[fallen sand]

That would make sense if Fresh Cheese scaling was 1.4, but all the cheeses are 1.15

It's milk that gets harder and harder to produce

[amber canyon]

Damn. Er ... Milk ... I got nothing 🤷

[amber canyon]

Done.

[tawdry parrot]

yay

[fathom stirrup]

3,65 days left to max time chambers for the first time.

I already forgot which nodes I was aiming for in RE...

[rough axle]

for now 🔜™

[fathom stirrup]

I bet most of us are waiting for their time chambers to be filled.

[gray yew]

I’m not

[fathom stirrup]

Are you not doing the meta strategy of empty sims?

Are daily rewards the same for all of us or is it player dependent?

Cause last daily reward I was given a splendid 2hour production of my empty sim generators. 0

[clear zenith]

can confirm, I'm at something like four or five days

[amber canyon]

Same. A fortnightly cycle. One thing starts as sharks, then changes.

[clear zenith]

mine (day 6 I think) was a time flux for my empty sim

sharks is every fourteen days for me, but it's about to be never bc I get my last one in less than two hours

yaaaaay I got 20th in diseases

[amber canyon]

I'm just sitting 47 days in. No point in restarting until IR2. Just collecting entropy, ideas and XP. For not much reason.

[clear zenith]

have we seen an April events calendar yet or is that still TBA?

[wheat holly]

is it just me or the cheese event harder than the rest

[amber canyon]

Tba afaik

[wheat holly]

i swear the upgrades do nothing

[clear zenith]

it is one that gets progressively harder, I know that

[gray yew]

No.

[junior dust]

everyone ! de you play in the New event on cheese ?

[clear zenith]

but it was one of the first few events I played so I don't really remember

[gray yew]

Well it’s not “new” anymore, but yeah.

[clear zenith]

newest lol

[amber canyon]

It's okay, you're US, we understand.

[gray yew]

I mean it still says “new” on the label-thingy even though this is like the seventh or eighth time it’s been done

[clear zenith]

heyyy :<

[junior dust]

What's you're name I want to check à good ranking ?

[rough axle]

automod killed me when i tried to post about my spreadsheet in #🎨-cells-art and now i have to wait 2 more hours dies

[clear zenith]

dux why are you a link now

I was worried you were a scammer or smthn

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/yogurt-spaceballs-mel-brooks-merchandising-gif-20198466

[clear zenith]

all right then

[fluid delta]

I'm not

[calm wasp]

Don’t post much in here but very bittersweet moment. I’ve really loved the beyond arc, maybe my favorite part of the game

[wheat holly]

allat for a x2 increase

(next upgrade costs x7 as much)

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-dont-panic-dolphins-fish-so-long-gif-3554498

[wheat holly]

ts gotta be a joke

[junior dust]

What are your nicknames please i would check goods ranking pls

[clear zenith]

gimme yours I'll give you mine

(except mine is my server nickname so you already have it)

[wheat holly]

omg this upgrade is nefarious

[junior dust]

AZTRAL_NEXUS

[junior dust]

Oh ok

@clear zenith it's done

[fathom stirrup]

He loves to be watched at

[junior dust]

Bro I just want to improve myself

[clear zenith]

I always feel like somebody's watching me

[gray yew]

Ketmay

And I don’t really care about the ranking thing

[clear zenith]

oops I broke it

[fluid delta]

goods ranking?

[fathom stirrup]

That's nice. I think there is not that much to learn from watching 'friends' progression.

On the other hand observing discord and wiki and asking whenever you feel puzzled proved very useful to me 😉

[clear zenith]

ughh do I buy it now or save for ||Auriga||? (Beyond ep23 spoilers)

screw it I'm buying it

[quasi ivy]

i have returnedd

[clear zenith]

welcome back

[junior dust]

Yeah !

[fluid delta]

What's that mean?

[fathom stirrup]

I bought it, ||Auriga|| costs only 9

[clear zenith]

oh sweet

[junior dust]

Uh... Ketmey and SpaceNoodle have better ranks than me

[rough axle]

Ofcie

[clear zenith]

you have become the second person on my friends list with a ranking lower than me, lol. a lot of people here are very far along

(at least, the people who talk often)

[junior dust]

So that's fine

[junior dust]

I don't play since à lot of time so I want to improve mysilf

[fathom stirrup]

I have added few players on my own who posted in progression thread to get roles just to check how they improve comparing to me. But they lack activity so I eventually jumped over them

[junior dust]

You're a bit bitter, Sepheria, no?

[clear zenith]

yeah, I added a few people I saw in #🏆-share-your-prestige once but I mainly add people who chat here a lot

[fluid delta]

That’s beta

[fluid delta]

No, not in the least. Why would I be bitter?

[rough axle]

wait i just realized my pc save is like 60 meso levels beyond my phone

ah well ill make a new account

[clear zenith]

I forgot tetrapod icon was a thing until just now

[junior dust]

I don't no but your messages made me think that

[fluid delta]

Very strange. I’m not bitter at all!

[clear zenith]

congrats, you are now the highest-rank person I'm following, and by a significant margin

[junior dust]

OK so, sorry

[fathom stirrup]

Is there a place to see what are contents of those avatar packs?

[fluid delta]

What’s the highest non-beta you are following?

[clear zenith]

it's possible there's a list on the wiki but I haven't checked

[clear zenith]

kf and a few others at their level (seems 79 is the soft cap)

oh kf's says beta but others at that level don't, oop

oh well

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. you can follow me if you want, I have a higher RL than that, but mine is higher mostly bc of a in-game exploit that I used a couple months back, so it’s not really a “fair” RL in that sense

[clear zenith]

is yours your discord name?

[fluid delta]

yes, but all lowercase

[clear zenith]

sweet

[hollow pelican]

bitter

[fluid delta]

lol

[hollow pelican]

why does my tongue suddenly feel bitter lol

[fluid delta]

alkaloids, probably!

[clear zenith]

I think the only reason I wasn't following you was bc I hadn't seen your username and didn't want to just make random guesses 🤷‍♂️

[fluid delta]

Heh fair enough. What’s your in-game username?

[sudden dome]

does it make sense to reset right now or should i just wiat until next update?

[clear zenith]

same as my discord name here, same capitalization

[fluid delta]

gotcha

[fathom stirrup]

Is capitalisation important?

[hollow pelican]

Yes

[hollow pelican]

Maybe, uhhh yes

[sudden dome]

yes to what 😔

[hollow pelican]

reboot

[fluid delta]

gotcha. I see you have a ways to go! You'll get there!

[sudden dome]

kk then i trust you random human

[clear zenith]

I feel so lowly compared to the average chatty person here 😅

[hollow pelican]

I ain't human, I'm uv

a wave

[sudden dome]

im sorry dear wave 😔

[warm umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1240692726056616060/1475323888014463078/togif.gif

[sudden dome]

you are definietly not from what im seeing

idk what you mean by lowly tho

[hollow pelican]

Jester

[clear zenith]

my friends list is 18 people higher than me and 2 lower than me so...

lowly as in less progressed

maybe that's the wrong descriptor, idk

[hollow pelican]

what RL are you again

just curious

[clear zenith]

50

[hollow pelican]

Oh

can I friend you

[clear zenith]

I know that's more than halfway to the current soft cap but low relative to many here

go for it!

[sudden dome]

i only have quarter :< (and random people who are probably not lunch)

[fathom stirrup]

Well thats a really high RL you have. Which rank are you if I may know?

[fallen sand]

You know, I thought you were 70 or so

[clear zenith]

and what's your nickname? I don't believe I have you either

[fathom stirrup]

This is fun 😅

[clear zenith]

definitely not! I've only been at it since January 17th

[hollow pelican]

hold on, I forgot

there's - between Ultra and violet

[fathom stirrup]

You see. I was not the only one who was thinking that 😉

[clear zenith]

oh certainly not. I think Nora's at least the third who's assumed I've been playing for much longer than I have

[fluid delta]

365, but that’ll change on 1-April when it’s reset and the bots and such are temporarily removed. Some higher than me are lower level, which just shows you that the ranks in the global leaderboards are still messed up

[clear zenith]

tbf my first time playing was two years ago but I was not playing for most of those two years and I'm on a new save now

[fallen sand]

I reset around then as well 😓

[gray yew]

I’ve been playing since February 2019
Went on a hiatus or two tho

[clear zenith]

yaaay now my friends list has a few more people who are higher-level than me

[hollow pelican]

Reboot: Crisis

[dry cairn]

The end game players are sometimes capped for months like how most of them are currently stuck at 79,
Gives people time to catch up.

[fathom stirrup]

Interesting. So there are bots as placeholders in rankings?

[clear zenith]

I think the first time was not long after I started talking here a lot. I was maybe level 30-something, and kf I believe assumed I was a seasoned player

good times

[clear zenith]

and I'm very glad for that 😅

[fluid delta]

I assume so? not placeholders though, people actually cheating

[fathom stirrup]

Those are not bots though. OR they have been stripped down of control?

[fluid delta]

How could we even tell? Other than not having a player name, that is

That and the unrealistic levels for non-beta

[clear zenith]

yeah I assume a lot of those players at higher levels with a string of random characters as a name are mostly cheaters who drop the game soon after reaching that point

[flat sun]

Why's the universe generator not doing like anything? I have been waiting for a little more then 6 hours so it should be halfway done by now but it has not moved at all

[fluid delta]

They had to have used exploits or outright have edited the game files in a way that the game hasn’t detected

[clear zenith]

it's a bug #1486461190979977297 message

[flat sun]

Ah alright thanks man

[fathom stirrup]

Not cool. Bad people

[fluid delta]

Yes, well.. so that’s why I normally ignore the global leaderboard, bc it’s useless

[fathom stirrup]

Btw there are so many emoticons, but I find 90% unable to be ever used.

[clear zenith]

yeah, the only leaderboard I need is the one where most of the people on it are astronomically further than me!

[clear zenith]

mark my word I will start using more of them

[fluid delta]

lol.. fortunately, the Event leaderboard is still useful.. well, event ranking, however you want to call it!

[fathom stirrup]

Your word has been marked.

[clear zenith]

-# it'd be more useful if I could see the science points of the other people on it *grumble grumble*

[fathom stirrup]

these are all not relevant now correct?

[clear zenith]

I still see some of those used once in a blue moon

the heck is ?

[amber canyon]

But then they could see you too ...

[fathom stirrup]

And most of the animals... I just don't see a good opportunity to use them. They lack of emotions so they can be used. Most of them...

[amber canyon]

I think I'm an atom? At least I look like one to me.

[fathom stirrup]

So what, I am a

[clear zenith]

eh. mutual spying is fine by me 🤷‍♂️

[rough axle]

https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Supernova

[clear zenith]

oh is that the symbol for it ingame or something

[amber canyon]

I think the Devs did say they deliberately decided not to let you see others in the event ranking, or their points. To stop excessive competition and cheating (like was in the predecessor to events).

[clear zenith]

it is 🤦‍♂️

[fathom stirrup]

Btw I am very glad there are 4 locked emoticons. Especially the last one...

[clear zenith]

okay then at the very least let me see how many science points away I am from the rewards category behind me so I know how scared I need to be

[rough axle]

i have no idea why its an emoji

[fathom stirrup]

Makes sense, but it would be nice to check afterwards the event is finished.

[rough axle]

and none of the other generaor types are

except the primary types

[clear zenith]

they're just locked behind nitro lol, but agree on that last one

[amber canyon]

I know. I'd like it too.

[fathom stirrup]

There is also blackhole. Which has some value as it is also referencing Beyond.

[rough axle]

yeah but the emoji is of the beyond portal not the icon used by the generator type

[fathom stirrup]

That Bohr's model of atom is nice and it suits you. But I doubt there is a good place where people would use it as emoticons.

[amber canyon]

I'm ============== if anybody wants it (that's 14 of them I think). I'm beta-tagger, but only played on normal with this file. Only glitches I know I've (accidentally) used are ~900 DW.

[rough axle]

[amber canyon]

I can't think why I'd use it. Unless someone suddenly said they worked at CERN or ITER I guess.

[fathom stirrup]

Hummingbird icon?

[clear zenith]

yes (unless I've also got the wrong person)

[fathom stirrup]

I'm just an 🍎

[amber canyon]

I got all artistic (relatively speaking) when I bought all the logit cosmetics. I was the Martian astronaut for ages before that.

[fathom stirrup]

Are those avatar packs worth it? I feel tempted....

[clear zenith]

it's probably gonna take a few more months for me to get all the logit augments? after that I'm definitely getting some icon packs (and ||bigfoot and dancing flatworm|| for the achievements, ofc)

[stable heron]

Heya, I started over again recently to see how the revamped primary simulation is, and I have two questions regarding progression:

1. It seems like I’ve hit a progression wall in primary simulation around marsupials and industrial revolution. Is this expected?
2. What is the better strategy for explore: events? I want to complete them to get their respective badge boosts, so I need to start in time but starting too early with them just makes it harder to get the rank boosts.

[clear zenith]

oh and these things

[amber canyon]

I only bought the Mars one to start with. Cos space. And cheap. But I bought the rest when I got to 10k logits.

[clear zenith]

I think the common consensus is, if you've got the 4x boost, waiting at least half a day to start events

I've had no issue completing events like that with no badge boost

[stable heron]

That’s the ad boost right?

[clear zenith]

yeah

[stable heron]

Alright. So what about the first question?

[fathom stirrup]

Walls are expected. There is no wall you cannot break through 💪😉

[clear zenith]

Except for lvl79 it seems, for most people anyway

[amber canyon]

What level are you?

It's likely you need to spam reboot (maybe save up for a big Reality Engine but) or start considering Empty Sim (boring but effective).

Ofc completing Meso - if you haven't already. - will help. As will DW farming for all the things.

[stable heron]

Well, obviously. I was mostly asking if it is a natural wall or just one made from me not knowing about a certain thing that gets me through it.

[amber canyon]

Also, there's a pinned comment by me with event advice.

Soft cap is RL79, although recent nerfs might have made it the soft cap RL77.

[stable heron]

I’m level 19. Meso 21 and beyond 10.

attached images are my current engine progress

[amber canyon]

Hmm. If you want to go quickly, you're still on the spam rebooting stage I think. Most of your knowledge and metabits are generated in the first 15 mins after a reboot. You can leave it longer, and use x30 shooting stars.

You can get past that without spamming though. I think you might need to progress Meso to get ||lizards||?

To see if the biome/div type specific things are worthwhile, look at your stats tab in the RE. Otherwise, my advice is #💬-cells-chat message

[stable heron]

Already got them unlocked, they are just e7 times too expensive

[amber canyon]

Be diligent about collecting DW, and codes for 300+ are https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Codes

[stable heron]

Oh yeah I haven’t bought any DW upgrades really. Are they that important?

[fathom stirrup]

Their time will come eventually. Game has its own pace. As kf said, rather frequent rebooting to earn metabits and knowledge is now good way to go.

[amber canyon]

No upgrades affordable?

Anyway, a lot of progress in the game is through the RE, as well as DW and logit buys. They all strengthen your primary tree. Primary is more the payout, than the input. If that makes sense.

[fathom stirrup]

They are getting more effective with each augment/module you purchase. provide 2nd layer of boosts

[amber canyon]

(although progress in primary does unlock things. Not saying it's useless).

[amber canyon]

Everything helps and is useful 😁

[stable heron]

Alright. Are there any good DW upgrades outside of primary? If not I might start splurging. I’m planning on saving up logits for the augments in meso/beyond

[amber canyon]

Ah, that was the link I posted earlier. My DW advice.

[fathom stirrup]

In beyond there is extra slot for missions, but other than that I would not spend outside Primary.

Honorable exception is using time flux in exploration events when necessary.

[amber canyon]

Logits - the volcano is good. It will make your Meso journey easier. And it's a long journey. Otherwise, primary logit augments are the best. Beyond logit buys are pretty and cool, but not very useful.

But don't worry too much about a factor of e7. Its an incremental Idle game, and numbers can get big v quickly with a few doublings and triplings.

[amber canyon]

Beyond 10? Be diligent with your red dwarf missions. Certain of those low level trait cards will be very useful (much) later on.

[stable heron]

Currently don't have any of those running atm, since I'm full on 1x dark matter 15 min grind and 3 planet explorations

[wheat holly]

this cheese event SUCKS

why is it so hard

[amber canyon]

Well, as and when you have slots. Don't forget the 2 you can get for free every 4 hours too.

[wheat holly]

i remember there was a time when an octillion entropy could buy you everything

[warm umbra]

chat should i check out my beyond progress

i been off for days

[gray yew]

yes

[sterile trench]

The cheese music is such an earworm lmao

[fathom stirrup]

It's the newest exploration. Devs might made it a bit challenging.

[wheat holly]

my beyond so ass

i gotta lock in

[clear zenith]

oh dear I usually don't play with sound on

[gray yew]

it just screams "switzerland stereotype"
/positive
/neutral

(tho i admit it gets a bit much after a few mins)

[amber canyon]

Bavaria for me.

[errant cargo]

hey guys. does anyone have a hint to the new secret achievment?

[amber canyon]

You'll find out in a few days.

[wheat holly]

when shoud i claim the stars?

i have blue star in inventory

[errant cargo]

thanks. appreciate it.

[wheat holly]

do they scale like in meso

[clear zenith]

it's still currently beta-exclusive, but if you want to see early you can check beta chat

[sterile trench]

How did ye have stars in inventory may I ask?

[gray yew]

yes im pretty sure

[warm lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxQ4hBwp4Q4
Just my association.

[wheat holly]

i went fishing

[clear zenith]

you can earn them by getting high ranks in events

[amber canyon]

Slightly. Nowhere near as much. I used them when I felt like it.

[sterile trench]

Ohhhhh

Yea I never went for that

[gray yew]

that reminds me
i feel like beyond series 3 should start at this point

[sterile trench]

Ye guys are too good

[clear zenith]

I've currently got ||some gold geodes|| stockpiled for when I hit ||level 50 again||

[gray yew]

i had a few ||neutron stars||

[sterile trench]

Where would it go

[warm umbra]

||oh boys||

[wheat holly]

i aint even unlocked neptune yet

[gray yew]

I just feel like Series 3 should've started after ||Horsehead Nebula||.

[gray yew]

cool

[sterile trench]

Ohhh that's what you mean

[clear zenith]

I know this isn't the newest of content but could we spoil plz?

there are some newer players in chat rn

[warm umbra]

drtfhrthrdbsdnstrhsthhhts

[gray yew]

yeah

[amber canyon]

||Milky way | Intergalactic||. Makes sense.

[sterile trench]

Considering someone said they're not even in Neptune

Yea

[gray yew]

plus those screenshots on the wiki make it seem like a different series

[warm umbra]

wait

how do i spoiler the urehteht

how do i spoiler the pic

|| ||

[warm lodge]

You don't. My game was open while the daylight saving time change happened.

[sterile trench]

When posting an image there's an option

[sterile trench]

Yea u got it

[clear zenith]

if you're on mobile press and hold th eimage for options

[warm umbra]

wait why spoiler it when ppl dont know what ep its on

[clear zenith]

still it's spoiling that it's a thing you can get

[gray yew]

because not all players have got that far
its just polite

[warm umbra]

are the local group generators good

[gray yew]

pretty sure yeah
at least until the later ones

technically "are [GENERATOR/S] good" could be applied to any generator and the answer would be the same as the one i gave

[wheat holly]

im still at solar system so

[gray yew]

well
almost any generator

[gray yew]

still good progress tho

[wheat holly]

im noob

[rough axle]

No

[wheat holly]

i will show funny comparison

between this and my other sims

[fathom stirrup]

Better be funny

[rough axle]

sdg and lmc used to be the worst generators in the game until the devs nerfed e29 into the ground

[warm umbra]

i heard ||saggitarius dwarf galaxy|| and ||large megallenic cloud|| suck and ||milky way galaxy|| and ||triangulum|| and ||andromeda|| are the only good ones

[gray yew]

Okay, I guess you have a point.
I wasn't really paying too much attention with those generators (or maybe I was, I dunno, my memory sucks), but that sounds about right.

[wheat holly]

i could lock in and watch a ton of ads and get x4 stardust and x4 mission speed

[fathom stirrup]

FYI you are way further in Beyond than in Meso.

[wheat holly]

is my meso THAT bad

[warm umbra]

SDG has alot of time waiting just to not be able make a fourth of the cost of normal milky way galaxy

[gray yew]

oh yeah
forgot about the benefits of mobile

[fathom stirrup]

Meso is ||550|| levels

[gray yew]

Well, there's a lot more to come in Meso. It's nowhere near as hard as Beyond tho.

[amber canyon]

play. Not watch 😁

[wheat holly]

you want me to play the ads?

[warm umbra]

milky way galaxy is the best generator in the game imo

am i right orr?

[worldly eagle]

Are there any more long timewalls past flat universe?

[gray yew]

it does seem pretty good
tho others like ||andromeda|| and ||sagitarrius centre or whatever|| (at least early on) are awesome too

[clear zenith]

well I've been getting this TikTok ad recently that lets me close it out early if I complete this silly little puzzle so...maybe?

[wheat holly]

no its not like this

[amber canyon]

Unlikely. Depends on your traits though. Technically.

[tawdry parrot]

aw man

[wheat holly]

eventually i will lock in on beyond

[warm umbra]

hmm

[wheat holly]

after i

idk

probably finish main

[gray yew]

the latter because ||its fast as fuck||

[wheat holly]

wtf am i waiting for, i already finished main

[tawdry parrot]

lock in now

[wheat holly]

[tawdry parrot]

whos your profile picture, alexander the great?

[gray yew]

do it
the guy with the sunfish pfp commands you to lock in
/lh /j

[wheat holly]

yall i clicked the blackhole when beyond was released

[warm umbra]

saggitarius A is like the heliosphere of phase 2

[gray yew]

i missed that

[wheat holly]

what

its not even a dude

[worldly eagle]

I mean flat uni was hell even with the traits i had like lvl 7 and 8 on my sun

[tawdry parrot]

alexanderatte

[amber canyon]

||Quasar 3C|| is my favourite. And ||Triangulum||. And the ||nebulas||.

[wheat holly]

athena

[tawdry parrot]

close enough, greek

[wheat holly]

[gray yew]

i just remembered
||milky way stuff|| was kinda disorienting at first

[warm umbra]

are these sun traits good for flat uni

[wheat holly]

ive never seen the sea bunny ingame

[gray yew]

i dont think its added yet

[wheat holly]

wtf a flat uni

actually

i dont think yall should answer me

i had 4 years to get to ep 30

[warm umbra]

i got sun to lvl 20

[wheat holly]

im a disappointment

[amber canyon]

You might want to work on them.

[gray yew]

you can still catch up
i did

[wheat holly]

i increased my production from 1.3e7 to 2e7 by buying a 2e10 upgrade, and the next costs 6e10

is this game evil?

[warm umbra]

wegnftreshhsr why

[amber canyon]

To speed it up.

[worldly eagle]

100 years of waiting

[fathom stirrup]

Cause you will grow old when it will matter

[warm umbra]

idk why im asking ts when im not even halfway done e27

[wheat holly]

grind that main sim boy

[amber canyon]

It's on the way - #🗣-cells-socials message

[tawdry parrot]

should I blackhole to speed this up?

[worldly eagle]

How do you not have that 3rd gold card?

[warm umbra]

iunno

[fathom stirrup]

Actually you have better conditions for grinding Beyond Phase I than wabuchy.

[worldly eagle]

Nah save for it until e30

[warm umbra]

gang it took me 6 months of waiting for e16

after that it went quickly

e25 and 26 finished in 3 days

[wheat holly]

whh

why

[warm umbra]

phase 2 gens are goated

[amber canyon]

If you want! And especially if it'll get you ||Messier 87|| traits.

[gray yew]

im just looking to rank up ||great attractor|| and get another payout card
that should do me a supercluster of good

[wheat holly]

😎

time to STUDY

[gray yew]

have fun

[fathom stirrup]

Cause you can get rewards from finishing in exploration events that are meant to be for Phase I.

[gray yew]

||and phase 2||

[tawdry parrot]

but then its 2 late

[worldly eagle]

Your choice then

[tawdry parrot]

I understand

but e30 is the final episode

[amber canyon]

38 ||Black Dwarf?s|| is what I want.

[dry cairn]

If you feel like you're making decent progress, usually no need to open them.
go for it when things feel slow.
or maybe when you are right on the edge of being able to upgrade an important card, e.g. its at 9/10.

[gray yew]

I don’t think those exist in-game. Unless you’ve reached a point I haven’t, which I suppose you have.

Unless you mean a trait card for ||Van Maneens Star||.

[tawdry parrot]

so even if opening in e30 saves more time, you would hit the wall regardless

[worldly eagle]

Makes the wall faster ig

Tbh just have your sun card and phase 1 gold card upgraded enough

Past e30 are timewalls

[amber canyon]

It is one level below everything else 😱

(apart from the new stuff)

[gray yew]

I see

[fathom stirrup]

That's very hard to achieve if you already got into Phase II.

[worldly eagle]

Yeah

I was lucky i played the game pre beyond update

So when i hit e17 i spammed blue dwarfs

I mean the blue star

[amber canyon]

You get quite a few decent rewards for the ||E30 objectives||, so it'd likely have more effect for you now imo.

[surreal imp]

||The observable universe being the only one ticking a fraction of a second is mildly infuriating||

[desert quail]

i thought the max prestige was prestige 10, wth is this

[clear zenith]

hacking by the looks of it

wish we could still react in that channel so I could slap a big ol jester on that one

I sense that'll be the guy's role soon anyhow

[polar viper]

thats 100% just some edited image

777

[strange lark]

The second 7 is a bit higher looks like an edit

[polar viper]

but still a case for the

[strange lark]

Always 🫡

[clear zenith]

man I could've sworn I'd collected my last daily at 2-3pm yesterday but it's nearly four and still no shark

I'm going crazy

[amber canyon]

I meant to say: you know you can ||close ads out early and even if it says you won't get the reward, you do||? At least on my phone it works.

[gaunt jackal]

PRESTIGE 77???

[clear zenith]

||depends on the ad, some don't even have the option to close early. but when I can, I do||

[amber canyon]

Cool. Just checking.

Sounds like yours are worse than mine. I rarely get that.

[turbid mica]

In the UK lol. Although if you spoken to people they'd probably just complain everything's so expensive these days. It is, gotta work harder

[turbid mica]

Dinner tonight did include a wild salmon steak and it's lovely 😍😍

[still crow]

question about the new beyond update ||so after you get cosmic geometry what is the best thing to do for income? since it gives celestial bodies such a huge buff is there a specific few i should buy to increase my income?||

[amber canyon]

Do check, but you should see that ||the Sun|| is generating most of your income.

[still crow]

ah yes it is

so i should put money into that for income rn?

[lone bronze]

GUYS I FINALLY PRESTIGED!!!!!

[still crow]

wooooo!!!!!

congrats man!!!

[lone bronze]

this is going super fast im already on rank 15 😭

[lone bronze]

thanks!!!!

and I'm making progress on beyond as well!!

so close to great attractor..

so close to maxing...

both meso and beyond

[amber canyon]

Any you can get, and any traits you can level will speed you up. It is the ||hardest / most time-consuming objective||.

[still crow]

i see i seee

[still crow]

type shitttt

[amber canyon]

Ofc, the best way to do that is travel back in time a year and diligently farm red dwarfs, lol.

[lone bronze]

heck I'm close to maxing the whole game

primary nearly done

I can finally focus on events

[still crow]

your so right

brb guys gotta do that rq

[still crow]

well there is the new beyond episode that just released to so luckily that’ll take some time for you to do :D

[lone bronze]

right

e30 is the longest one

[still crow]

oh def

by far the longest

[lone bronze]

50 challenges I heard?

[still crow]

mhm mhm

at first i thought it was easy challenges

then it ramped up… quite a bit…

[lone bronze]

how are they gonna fit so many objectives tho

its only 2 generators

[still crow]

oh

you’ll see

you will see

prepare

[lone bronze]

oh god

are the solar system objects coming back

cuz theres no way all of that is interstellar objects

[still crow]

all i can say is im glad im very i’ve been hoarding the secondary currency in the beyond ep for a while

i had like 20k when this update came out

[lone bronze]

dark matter?

[still crow]

ye

[lone bronze]

ah

im broke in dark matter

[still crow]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-bro-hand-on-shoulder-gif-11963500747147243380

[lone bronze]

if my dark matter was converted to real money I'd be cooked

[fluid delta]

yeah, though you don’t need a lot of it

[still crow]

you’ve got this i believe in you

[lone bronze]

aight

but im not even local void rank 1 so there's still quite a bit left of e29

still can't believe this 4 and a half year long journey is coming to an end

[still crow]

fair but for rn i do cuz i never really upgraded stuff so a lot of my things are rly low lvl

[lone bronze]

I saw it all

[still crow]

damn

unc /light hearted

it rly is quite touching to see it end tho

[lone bronze]

bruh

I remember when the beyond was above martian city

[still crow]

i haven’t been around the whole time i think like a year and a half? maybe two? and gosh it’s quite fulfilling to see the end

[amber canyon]

Holding out hope for Beyond Prestige. Eventually.

[still crow]

maybe a year and a half is more accurate

[still crow]

dear lord

[amber canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/lighter-concert-gif-11562845

[lone bronze]

itll probably happen

[still crow]

they better make the buff to main sim good for that prestige lmao

[lone bronze]

I hope so

[still crow]

i think it will

[lone bronze]

also I've seen some screenshots

[still crow]

i wonder if they’ll make a new side simulation after beyond

[lone bronze]

why are there 3 little dots in front of semblance after you beat it

[lone bronze]

they have to

they haven't fed us in 3 years

since events

[still crow]

pft

[rough axle]

Fun fact: it technically never was. Before it was added, that’s where the teaser was. But once it was added, it was immediately moved to the very bottom

[lone bronze]

right

[amber canyon]

#💬-cells-chat message

[lone bronze]

I was talking about the thing that said "the beyond comes into focus"

yes the teaser thingy

[rough axle]

Ye I know

[lone bronze]

oh

[still crow]

what would they even do as the next sim tho?

[lone bronze]

also why are you a link

aint u supposed to be archdux

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/yogurt-spaceballs-mel-brooks-merchandising-gif-20198466

[lone bronze]

no idea

[still crow]

we abt to get physics simulation or sum lol

[lone bronze]

hmmmmmmmmm ok

[still crow]

go into the tiny

the quantum realm

[lone bronze]

oh like atoms and molecules??

hmm good idea

[still crow]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-future-fight-ant-man-and-wasp-quantumania-ant-man-and-wasp-ant-man-marvel-future-revolution-gif-27558955

they could do sum with it

oh or elements like periodic table maybe?

[lone bronze]

I was thinking they could revamp the primordial stuff

[lone bronze]

ooh

but how are they gonna do 118 nodes

[still crow]

they could do it

longest episode yet

each new one gets more

[lone bronze]

hmmm

[lone bronze]

episode? as in beyond episode?

I thought we were talking about a fourth simulation lol

[still crow]

i mean main sims got a lot of nodes, and maybe it could work with like different currencies based off sum?

[lone bronze]

ahhh I see

[still crow]

yes i do mean the 4th

it would be mega long if they did allat lol

[lone bronze]

they could make the noble gases, halogens, alkili, lanthanides, actinides and all of those into currencies

[still crow]

yes

i know those words mhm

[lone bronze]

like categories of elements

[still crow]

mhm mhm

[tawdry parrot]

enjoy

[lone bronze]

yea

[tawdry parrot]

lots of veggies

[tawdry parrot]

thanks for the tip mr excel

[still crow]

or do sum with the number of atoms in each element to decide what charge each one gives

[amber canyon]

😜

[lone bronze]

a

hydrogen and helium and lithium beryllium
boron carbon everywhere
nitrogen all thru the air and oxygen so you can breathe and fluorine for your pretty teeth

I only know the elements cuz of the asap science song I learned when I was a kid 😭

it got stuck in my mind ever since

[still crow]

pft nice nice

never heard of that song

i can’t wait to see what they make i’m sure it’ll be peak no matter what it is

[clear zenith]

I think your name is broken

[rough axle]

:dies:

I typed the link wrong

[lone bronze]

are we getting singularity 3

I mean 2

or even emergent

[rough axle]

Omg

[lone bronze]

cuz those don't have the glitch thingies

[rough axle]

I CANT EVEN CHANGE THE DESTINATION WITHOUT PREMIUM

I’m switching to tinyurl

Nvm just made a new link

[clear zenith]

ayy nice

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[clear zenith]

congratulotions

[rough axle]

Does the link work now

[clear zenith]

yes

[tawdry parrot]

are u a pokemon

[lofty galleon]

yeah (trust)

[clear zenith]

yesssss I got all my sharks (is it true the role for that is no longer given? I feel like I heard someone mention that recently)

[tawdry parrot]

getting this this week

[dry cairn]

#💬-cells-chat message

[worn dirge]

How is this possible!? I literally cannot think how I'm going to make it through Ep 30 and if so, it'll take months

Stunned how people have like E250 stardust

Does it get easier? 🙏

[dry cairn]

Unretire the Shark Collector role.

[tawdry parrot]

its the last episode so they gotta make it last

[worn dirge]

I understand that and all, but the lengh and hardness of this episode combines episode 10-15 together. 😵‍💫

Heh. See you in 2027 when I finish it

[tawdry parrot]

episodes 10-15? u remember those?

[clear zenith]

(cheese spoilers) ||so does this mean that cheeses that use animal rennet aren't vegetarian? I'm unclear on whether vegetarianism is not eating just meat or any product that requires death of an animal||

[gray yew]

I think vegetarianism means not eating meat, and is distinguished from veganism due to the latter meaning not eating any animal products. That includes milk, eggs, honey, things like that.

[tawdry parrot]

yes but many cheeses now have bacterial rennet

[clear zenith]

that's why I say animal rennet specifically, because I know that's not what all rennet is now

[clear zenith]

yeah that's what trips me up, because all those things don't harm the animal producing them (assuming it's done ethically, of course), but rennet does. So what category does it fall into? Because it feels like it's somewhere in between

[gray yew]

I don’t know.

[clear zenith]

fair, I wasn't neccesarily expecting to get a straight answer anyway 🤷‍♂️

-# hey Electorus I've got a random question for your list /j

[gray yew]

I mean, vegetarian meats already exist, so it stands to reason that vegetarian rennet could exist too.
And since no animal stomachs (or animals in general) were harmed, I’d say it might be alright.

Hell, I hear it’s now possible to grow burgers in labs, though we’ve got a long way to go before commercial usage.

[clear zenith]

I know for a fact that vegetarian rennet exists. In that case, the cheese is definitely vegetarian. My question is when the animal rennet is still used

[clear zenith]

Fingers crossed that works out soon

[lucid trout]

Am I the only one who has been experiencing crashes recently

Mobile btw

[clear zenith]

The only time I encounter issues is when I'm on mobile and try to take screenshots. For whatever reason it basically crashes my whole phone and I have to reboot it. Other than that, my phone gets hot and it's a little laggy when I have it open too long, but no issues

[gray yew]

And this other thing about turning crickets and termites into burgers and that. Of course, that’s another matter.

[clear zenith]

blegh. I don't think I could get over that mentally

lab-grown bioidentical meat is very different from bug burgers

okay so according to the internet it depends how strict the vegetarian is. some do and some don't eat animal rennet cheese

so, as often is the case, the answer is "it depends" :/

what platform are you playing on, and did you make an account in-game?

and in-game account or no?

if you have an in-game account you should be able to restore your progress

It's possible Steam cloud saves had an error. That can sometimes fix itself if you leave and re-open the game, but I'll admit I'm not an expert in how Steam works

darn

yeah, unfortunately I think the save's lost. probably a Steam issue but I can't say that with full confidence. if you uninstalled the game at any point that could also be a cause

no worries, you're not the first player who's had issues with a lost save file

certainly not

The only save I lost was the one I unintentionally overwrote, thankfully

Nope, but I think you're the first steam player I've heard of having to fully restart. It's usually an issue for people playing on Google phones

wrong US coast

well good thing not too much was lost

If you decide to keep playing on the new save and don't want this happening again, an account in-game is the best way (and has the benefit of being able to move the game to other devices). There's instructions for how to do it here, plus how to manually save: #💬-cells-chat message

yeah I'm not sure why Steam slipped up this time

Yep! I'm playing on Steam too

not autocaps, I just capitalize the beginning of my sentences more frequently than the average pc discord user lol

[rough axle]

some people captialize their words manually

[clear zenith]

here lemme go online

just a circle - oh yeah and I'm linked to Steam so you can see I just booted the game up ^^

gotta get those cheeses

[tawdry parrot]

life was so peak back then, then the 'rona happened

[dark raft]

we need a classic flatworm profile icon

[clear zenith]

(that's the event rn lol)

yea

what kind of pop quiz is this? ik that's Roblox

I don't believe so

now I want a cheeseburger

[azure turtle]

Low chance, devs said they aren't planning to do that

If a prestige would be added, it would be completely different than what we have in meso

[polar viper]

There are 3 more node teasers after the last one in beyond. So something will come some day i guess

Hope dies last but i wouldnt bet on anything sooner than half a year.

[lament steeple]

What are these 2 achievement?

[clear zenith]

The first is date-specific, you'll have to wait until next year to get it.
The second is only available in beta right now, but you can find info about it in #💬-beta-chat