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oh my bad
No Iโm talking about ฮฉ the Greek omega
Om is not omega
ฮฑฮฒฮณฮด
You mean Devanagari om
ohm is the electrical unit of resistance
Yeah.
Devas.
Yeah u=RxI
I have also electronics background lol
But om is ๐๏ธ ohm is omega
So Om in Devanagari & Ohm in Greek Omega
Btw my PFP is nataradja the cosmic circle of time and space, cosmic dance, something like Uroboros
Yes om is hindu or in this geographical place, and ohm is omega greek
guys why is beyond level 18 So hard
There is always sometimes in beyond when it's slow
Iโm a squid profile
But then you find some nice fast generators to make each reboot faster to get back to big generators
Nice for the update
I support cats, my cats. Sadly one of them past away last year. So should change. Im going to so that, I know exactly which picture to change it too
Iโm sorry
Ouroboros you sayโฆ โพ๏ธ
Yeah the infinite multiverse, until the end of times.
And whats that for your pfp
I have 3 cats, and hope they will last until 20 years or more, finger crossed but vets books keep continuing to add more years when they talk about their age, so it's positive
now. The ugliest picture of my cat when he looks like a seal ๐
What
Yeah, the one still alive may be 20. He is 12 but dont understand that. The one that past away got super ill super fast. Like in a month she went from healthy to not alive..
Okโฆ
In the past in the medical note/book when you get a cat, it was like 15 years max, then 20 then now like 25, so I hope it's a proof we have understanding and ways to save them longer
Yeah. So long they dont get sick they may live for longer. I hope my stupid little loveable furball lives to 20 or more.
Have had him since he was 7 so missed the kitten years so can compensate those years if he gets old
But he is a clingy one so my back may say no to that. Today I came home at 4 pm, its almost 8 and he haven't moved. I need dinner soon but I think thats not in the cards yet for him . He is super cuddly
@tall mirage I'm looking up Google for the email thing, are you sure it's not only for gmail ?
Internet is talking about gmail not sensitive to that, but not for other providers, or if you have your own email service .. Soo don't know
some mentioned it's only for gmail, others mentioned its for other email platforms too
thats some non standard google stuff.
I tried for gmail, it worked
basically this way I can create 100s of dummy accs so it's chill
I learned that almost every food we get for pets, are not really the best for many illnesses, so we could have to seek for better food, or even need to cook it by yourself for the best ... Sadly
Anyway I use email before gmail was a thing, and never heard about that before today
Even I also know many people that continue to think some things are case sensitive, when it's not that
Some people will continue forever to spell email or dns exactly as they read it or wrote it, but no...
I try to give atleast the best dry food. But he is picky so the wet food is not the greatest. But it was it is. He hates food and doesnt eat the normal human food that most cats like ,.like shrimp, fish and chicken. Instead crisps is a favorite, sour candy he once eat, butter but only one lick and whipped cream one lick but only if its whipped and sugar in it ๐
Dry food is a non sense by itself, to have it in that form they need to add special ingredient to it... I continue to use it but it makes me sad
After that you will end up buying special care dry food, cost really high, and you discover it should be that sort of food before, or that many steps could help the process before it was too late ..
Same but yeah. Im happy he eats and its a grain free one and more healthy ingredient in than I eat so yeah. Im joking that is the food I eat if war happens
He is 12 and super healthy so I dont think the dry one is going to hurt him.
But he is an exception I know
Sadly it's also because they can also become addicted to one specific food
But if he is eating and drinking and mostly Good behaviour it's also already a good point
Yeah, the not so good wet food. But thats the only thing he eats. And he need food so yeah. It is what it is
Whatever he eat
He eats like a snake also, atleasy the dry stuff.
Yesterday he eats like 1 dl of dry food, tonight 2 table spoons and most likely that this night also to maybe eat 1 dl again sometime in the weekend.
He gets half a pouch of wet each day to get some fluid but also so he eats something if its a low food dry day lol
Wet food have finally more benefit for their health than dry, or it doesn't mean eating dry food will protect them as people tend to think
I mean by example for teeth, the best thing would be to manually brush them like us, nothing else is better
But it's not easy to do and could induce stress so...
And to get a cat when he is 7 you can forget to change something in there life. Changed to better dry stuff but thats it. He is not used to brushing teeth etc
Sometimes you don't have the choice
Yeah. He is 12 now and definitely not going to change anything. He is an old man now. Even if he doesn't understand it
If you don't brush it can build bad stuff than you will need to remove with a surgical process. And it could lead with more problems in the mouth, then more surgical process and more pain then ...
He is healthy so not going to mess with that. Never have had a problem so yeah.
And when it becomes difficult for them to eat you will need to change something and he will enjoy it or accept it, I mean the cat I know who lived longer were eating mostly raw expensive chicken meat, but we knew it was the only thing he could eat so, we just find something and continue until the end
But it's not for now
I wish you after 20 years of life

And most likely never for my cat. And if its happen its time to say goodbye. After 12-13 years old you most let they go if stuff happens
But thats not for now. He is healthy and happy.
After that you could find some spirituality/scientific explanation to have him living forever with you
Like adding each of our beloved pets to the simulation, or whatever ๐ธ
The other cat lives in the display cabinet in a urn so yeah. That was here favorite spot to lay on, on top of the display cabinet so naturally its where she moved in after she left this world and moved to next
I follow some transhumanist sub on reddit, and I would like one of them to be ok to help on a project to digitalize my cats and all other pets .. but ... Don't know
Yeah, its a tad bit weird to have a dead cat in ash form in your display cabinet but thats here spot and therefore she "lives" there now.
You could modelize your cat in a vr, adding to him his personality and your memories. Then making an ai to anime it, and probably mixing many nice tech to modelize it perfectly
Yeah having ashes isn't same
I want a Cats to singularity
Yeah. But it is what it is.
Now its time to get the very heavy 4 kg cat that feels like he weighs like a car to move so I can find food. But thats not going to easy. He is fast asleep lol
Heavy ? 4 ? Mmm my old skinny cat is close to 4, but my younger is more 8kg lol sorry
He is a small boy, around 3,5-4.
Yeah it's how is my skinny old cat. Now it's hard for him to eat, but I'm more used to cats weights more than 6kg ๐ธ
So I joked about the heavy stuff. He is light like a feather.
But he have gained weight after the other cat passed away because she stole food from him.
Yeh
I prefer to feel my cats heavy
One of mine is more like an old grandpa ๐
He is really small to be 12 and to be a castrated male. He can squeeze under the sofa rhats like one dm height
Hairs also, it changes a lot
He is really shorthaired
I mean you feel when they get old, with nails and hairs
And it's also health related
Yeah. The other one did lose a lot when she got sick.
Their colour and how shiny it is
She looked old and scruffy
But time to get the small boy to move before he digs his head deeper into my lap.
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Hi all
https://e-mail.wtf/ now you too, took some time to dig it, even it will probably stay unclear for you, or even more confused ๐
Hi.
Lol
sad
Lol I got 15/21
Maybe try different strat ..?
im RL 65
Anyone remember/know what is the level we start if we already had all, gold earth ...?
Felineforms
Iโm RL 75
I don't remember but before level 70 it seemed fast, but needed to try different strategies
I mean research level
I just remember close to level 70 it really takes longer time
wasnt the maximum RL 74
No
But some strat made several levels faster than only one previous
Thatโs the mollusk tree
50k, really?
Yep
mhm
HOLY SHIT
@fluid delta I ONLY DID A 7 DAY EMPTY SIM RUN AND I WENT FROM RL 65 TO 68 INSTANTLY
AND IM ALREADY HALFWAY THROUGH RL 68
i thought the 21 day empty sim run strat was not good
yall were right
ts is OP
Sweet!!! Good job!! ๐
Well Iโm at RL 75
I'm at RL 76 ๐
at first i didnt believe it when you say the 21 day empty sim run was like a million times more effective or something
What!?!?!?!?
Yes. Just in the last 10 minutes
Weโre not halfway there
now you do!!
halfway to where?
im so glad they brought back the boost for meso valley prestiges
cause now i have motiviation again to continue the meso valley
finally
i wouldve just abandoned it if they kept it gone
Well good! It's worth (again) doing meso prestige now!
is this bugged?
Why was my picture deleted?
so does it actually do anything or no?
like does it work but not show the amount of boost
or does it not work at all
Well report to #1010249890414202880
No. It'll only show a value when you are running a sim
Does that come from the 11d cap more than empty sim time crystals ..?
no?
every other locked upgrade still shows the amount of boost
what?
Say me pls
hmm.. well, it's working for me.
It works for me too.
One thing I am happy about are that the mezazoic pristeges give boosts
Yeah
do you have any actual civilizations atm?
no idea what picture you are talking about
every other locked upgrade still shows the boost
only this one doesnt
I mean for me it worked at those levels even with 7days sim or less soo I don't know, I thought empty sim was just for metabits and knowledge gains
and the mesozoic valley one too
yea
What is empty sim ๐ค
I can see that you have 0 life, lol (or is it because it's afuture one?)
i finished the whole tree (that my current RL can reach)
life and civs are only there when you are running a sim and have bought the generators..
Also with recent update if you have prestige bonus, it should also help, but don't know if you are only on mobile or also steam
Then what is your pfp
0 life????
I posted a joke about "city boy" and it was deleted ๐
huh. Then idk why
oh, yeah. That is strange
this wasnt deleted it's still here?
That is because it is from a long time ago.
Oh,sorry,my discord bad

btw, are 1000.000 and 1.000 fixed in the latest version?
I'm talking there since the update announcement, still never launched c2s, but still don't want to share my saves everyday between computer and phone sooooo
Quick q: Aside from the balancing for beyond 29, was beyond in general touched?
Or does anyone know from the top of their head if there was some time chamber upgrade that affects beyond?
I moreso meant that my gains for beyond 28 dropped to 1% of what they were at prior to the update
Uncertain what could be the reason
I think it's the same with beyond bonuses or whatever but I could be wrong
Can only think either the update broke something, or one of the time chambers was affecting it, and since I restarted the main simulation, I nuked that
read the announcement
Are you on Steam? I forget! But yeah, waiting was a smart move! And Meso Prestige benefit is back!
The announcement says a grand total of nothing
i still question why the devs removed it in the first place
Yeah, I'm multiplatform but Steam is my main.
Perhaps a bug?
where are the cyborgs ? Lost on Mars ๐๐
nope, they would've put it in the "fixed bugs" section in the announcement then
Removed
Yeah, me too. It's been interesting! I wouldn't have thought Birds would be important, but here we are!
Yeah, I bought the new time crystal and went for it.
I'm already at 7 E29 metabits
And just 15 mins in
And I can level again. Just hit 74.
What RL are you at? I got one immediately after logging in with the update. Not sure if they tweaked with the XP ranges a little, though probably it was the Meso Prestige fix
I recently hit 76. You'll probably get to 75 after a bit today.
We recently hit 75.
I'm finding I need to do some spam reboots, unfortunately (fortunately?)
So related to steam, do you confirm we still need to manually update the save profile to continue to use both platforms ?
Still no cloud like feature that could auto sync progress? I guess if they continue to release updates on different dates no, that's not the project
Well I got apple which is an platform
Yes, you need to manually save and restore which is a GOOD thing. You control how saves are handled that way.
Yeah at least you can backup easier I get it
Yeah, you don't want the game to automatically save a bad or currupted save to the crossplatform save.
exactly. and it does fail to upload properly every now and then.. though you don't notice that until you download and research chips are messed up (and perhaps other things, idk)
Okay, yeah, beyond 28 was definitely broken with the patch, and trying to use the backups I messed my progression even more
Is there any way to undo a save load from the backups?
If you have a good save somewhere else (the game will do a local backup 1/day) you could use that
I do have it, but 1 whole day is a bit much ๐
I can prob do something though, trying to get the evidence of the fact the entirety of Beyond got rekt
will wait lots until mollusks come
was your beyond issue with today's update?
but when they come i finish tree trust
Yeah
what happened? i know they adjusted balance of.. 29 I thought? I forget
I literally tried running a backup from 3 hours ago, went from being able to buy 14 Cuasar 3C, to buying only 2
My gains/s got destroyed
So easiest would be to fetch a screenshot of the gains prior to the update, and on current patch, currently checking how to do that
hmm.. just checked the announce, balance changes were to just 29, though idk if they also messed with 28?
Yeah, I asked earlier, was told to 'go read announcements' and then folken dipped
So easier to just do a bug report in a bit
I was also reading the announcement at this time sorry, but yeah if you didn't see other people talking about that specific issue, probably just a bug
/me
@fluid delta Were you able to get your Tachyon Funnel already?
lol no. Not even close
Just why?
bc that way you know exactly which save is saved, and where.
Oh, I thought you were further than me and I'm very close already.
... wait, you are? Are you sure?
That is first fun game about a knowledge I know. What else do you need?
Tachyon Funnel costs 1 FF/1E30 Metabits. How are you already close to that?
Just checked. Yes. I'm at 9 E29 and funnel costs 1 E30. I guess you're not at 21 days yet?
Because I waited with full time crystals and chambers
I think he was at 21+ days in his sim?
I'm not doing a empty sim run atm, I stopped with the update, and am spamming reboots to get nodes.
I was at day 12 in my run
Well, then this is proof that empty sim runs still work.
Kurwa, I wish to speak fluently
I don't understand
I'm almost 23 days
Sorry for disturbing
hmm. I am sure my next empty sim run will be amazing, but... I'll do that after my now-usual strategy of grabbing the easy RE nodes first ๐ ... what RL are you up to?
Omg, it is my first day on this chat
74 now
Nice!!
How many advertisements did you seen?
0
No, just in general. I block ads on PC and mobile with various ways.
Tell me about adblockers
Most important is uBLock Origin for Firefox on PC
Ehhh
Adblocking/script blocking on PC is smart. Helps avoid malware
As far as Firefox goes, I use NoScript in combo with uBlock Origin.
Do you know Brave? It is awesome, I just don't have PC anymkre
Brave is not a good choice of browser. Use Firefox instead.
And on mobile I use AdAway and NetGuard
a DNS-based blocker is useful too. I use NextDNS
I am mobile
Some players will however WANT to have ads to get boosts in the game without paying real life currency
agreed. I don't use NextDNS on iPad when I play Cells on it, for that reason
Czy coล kurwa
I am
So lame tho
Online Games take money to develop and run. Pay with money or pay with time by watching ads. Your choice.
See the app sometime
You, the devs need an income.
Exactly
You are playing nice f game and then some shi
Especially in the USA, where they are from and where everything is about money.
Everywhere in the world, economics and therefore money, is important.
I would give them a sandwich, nice job
They can't run servers or pay rent with a sandwich. They need money for that.
Sorry for those who regret any knowledge
Someone would eat a sandwich, stop bullshitin
Can I have it?
Either pay for infinity pass, watch ads for the bonus, or don't get the bonus and watch zero ads. Those are your choices if you play Cells on mobile.
Thing that my PRL relatives know
Nailed it, albeit geez steam depots are cringe
Damn, I steal if I can not afford
Pre update, 14 less Cuasar 3C, getting almost x4 the resources
Literally not an option with an online game. There is no steal.
How often is the 30 day infinity pass available?
am i allowed to use an emulator to download the mobile version of CTS so that i can watch ads on pc?
My father told me always to be positive. Be positive. So sad he is not around
Maybe burned
Yeah i think that works
how should it not work anymore?
Usually i speak another language
they would need to rework the entire knowledge/metabit system for that. 
thats not a quick fix
He needed blond transfusion
always. you even get 33 days if you resub immediately
Spalone, kurwa
I am not dead
we can tell
Hmm
-# Holy passive-agressive lmaooo
Forever.
Video: 21 day empty sim run, 43_42 Mollusks update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U34WEzEvrqk
Playing Cells efficiently.
I'm only laughting czy coล takiego
i honestly dont mind watching over 1000 ads in one sitting
it's just i use my pc much more than my mobile (mom's phone since i dont have one) and pc doesnt have ads
and i found out if you click on the little "I" symbol and click "stop seeing this ad" you can skip ads early
Bye
it literally transforms every ad into just 3-5 seconds
Nice to meet you
There always is the chance that balance changes will make this strat inefficient. For example by removing all the metabit/knowledge efficiency upgrades and adjusting balance accordingly.
Lowkey YT ads on TV are literally the invention of King Von I swear
where people gettin ads though? in this game? on mobile? ... never seen 1 on pc
I'm more surprised if a video doesn't start with an ad then if it does
Ads are banned on Steam.
So there arenโt any in Cells, or any games on that platform.
steam doesnt allow ads on pc
good good... glad Gaben Lord's puttin my money to good use... no ads 
that would be an entire rework yeah ๐ nothing done in an hotfix.
the system is just so designed that empty sim strat will be efficient.
easiest "fix" i could imagine would be to apply metabit/knowledge crystal retroactively to all fills done already, but even that wouldnt invalidate the empty sim strat.
just make normal run on par with it.
It is weird that they added another node for Primordial Power with this update. It's a trap, don't buy it until it's cheap to buy.... is what I'm saying having already passed the point where PP is useful, it might have benefit if you are early-70s in progress? Idk.
... but I haven't gotten all Primary nodes yet, so maybe it applies to something I haven't reached yet.
yay
are you jumping with the save between mobile/steam?
Imagine if web updated the same day :o
i kinda want to know what the game looks like from the very beginning after the reality reboot
It looks like they nerfed the e29 generators at beyond
No, I won't do that until the update is available on both (so, 1 week from now)
like do you unlock the reality engine after fish now?
Then our boxi would play it on day one!
Yes :D
Yes! I assume that's why I jumped 1 level as soon as I opened the update, earlier today.
As long as this update doesn't destroy my save file I am fine
Cuz my uncorrupted one is fully gone now sad :<
back up your save first, ofc
It is already in cloud stuff
and download to another device to confirm, as well.
But the problem is the save is already corrupted
is it corrupted in a good way?
Maybe you can contact Cells Support to see if they can reconstruct something for you.
huh what is this
Hopefully
I managed to get one of the paid items for free
On another note i had to cut my 21 day run halfway through (i can wait for the entire thing again though)
Managed to battery and mollusk's first nodes with 10 days
yeah I had to interrupt my 3rd empty sim run at the halfway point as well. worth it though
u can alrd buy all, also its quantum slipstream
Ty but I am talking abt the ones that have the progress bars already planning on buying that one
???
how come your entropy production is the same as ideas
you're only RL 64
My ideas is actually higher than entropy by a bit
Also plus I stopped playing the game for a monthish
In the next update this will go from x3.39 to x26.25
:D
And the the bug with Terminator will be fixed too :D
wow mollusks are dropping already? im still waiting for my 21 day afk run to end lol
Oh. I'm on mobile. How much is the new logit upgrade?
damn
150
why the hell does it have aura my god
why is it ourple
It changed the entire sound track in beyond too what on earth
Sheisse.
Oh I wonder if the devs actually know about the bugs I found but didn't report cuz i am lazy that only apply to early game
I think I might be cooked
damn
Yep
I think i corrupted my save file again
god damn it
Wait what version is being used for public release
Funny thing is Iโm not in division 666
live version on Steam is 43_42
Lucky. Imagine being there because of some bug 
Oh ok Iโm fine then
I managed to clone myself
.. did that hurt?
wowzers
planet nine got that roblox forcefield
Maybe you shouldnโt have cleared your browser dataโฆ
Why is this frog wearing a bra?
Just to keep things on it's place when jumping around.
Lmao
Hello
Some episodes in phase oneโand all episodes in phase twoโhave some outro dialogue alongside intro dialogue. In the outro, Semblance is wireframe, and the background is white.
what if C2S had a season pass?
oo thats cool
no..
the microtransactions would suck even more ๐ญ
Elaborateโฆ
Pay $15 to unlock skins for your simulation!
we can do logits for that
Okay, weโre killing you now.
Gulp!
@fluid delta i saw you talking earlier yo new leveling system
blue is new, green is old
excellent! I did notice the numbers changed a little
What does this graph represent?
bottom is level, up and down is the exponent of the exp req
so for the new system you need ~1e286 to get to lvl 73
but the tldr is that its lower now
theres been some changes to some... other stuff too
Yeah, that would help explain why I insta-leveled to 75 when I opened the update, this morning
ill look deeper but i just woke up
same lol from 71 to 72
oh and future level reqs look unchanged (besides from this one change)
they only adjusted lvl 70+ stuff
good to know
you might expand the graph out to include RL 80. I'd like it if you did
ah yeah, first i gotta eat breakfast lol
heh yes ofc. go eat
The update is not ready on browser yet right?
prob not, has the browser been updated recently anyway?
this?? 150? 
I'm new to the game guys
Hi guys
1.10x? for 150? hmmm 1.30x is 150... 1.10x been 50 as far as i noticed ๐ค
yea
it's literally in the announcement image
Tbf, it's simulation speed, not just entropy/ideas
only one i'm missin is that new one n the ISS for the Beyond
But yeah, most upgrades that are 150 would be 1.30 instead of 1.1
kinda bummed it's actually 150 for 1.10 >.<
But it's kinda all over the place tbh
Welcome, Simulator!
Nice to meetcha
It isnt for sure. One of the numbers is wrong. Probably the tooltip. Wouldnt be the first time. But could also be the price. I cant see or yet ingame. Missing a Level ๐
Yes

Was a fun game, enjoyed mostly back in flash/browser game days 
I have no idea what that sentence meansโbecause your grammar sucksโbut based on that image Iโm assuming youโre trying to set up linked roles.
You canโt.
Why
Definitely not because it was removed 17 months agoโฆ
Yes.
The same as everyone else
?
I sent it
Until what..?
A moderator looks at it.
Ok
Beat the game and now it rest till next major update
Whats beat the game at the moment. Tachyon Funnel?
Triassic Terminator also counts prestiges
thank you devs
can't wait for mobile release 
it's the new "Graviton Expansion", yeah. The most expensive "important" node, but some of the x/100 compound nodes will end up costing way more in aggregate.
At this point I am hopeful I can start a new empty sim run by tonight.
Also, not sure if there was a node unlock gated at RL 74. I should have paid more attention when I saw it and clicked on it.
I think there was a 74
ok. good to know I hadn't imagined it. I don't have all Primary nodes visible yet... there's 2 in the Mollusks area and 1 in the birds area. Idk if any of those are level locked.. I might know when I get the "important" node I'm spam rebooting rn to get.
I havent unlocked Enormous Eyes yet. I can see that it branches off into atleast 2 more nodes. So more to come for me.
Yeah, same here. That's the 2 nodes I mean in the Mollusks area.
I suppose there could be more branching off from those. We will see
76 looks like it will get me a 10th research chip so that will be a nice bonus.
oh, sweet! Unless I get more with Enormous Eyes, I won't be getting enough for the 10th, this update.
Seems the people that said Beyond e29 was too quick and easy got what they asked for.
heh. This is why I make a point of doing a new Beyond, first day. This isn't the first time when they've made it harder/take longer, after a release.
@fluid delta and @amber canyon - i'm on day 16 of my "empty reset". mollusks just came out. i'm itching to start my sim and get cracking - will i disrupt this empty sim experiment if i kick things off now?
or will my results just not be quite as fruitful had i waited another 5 days
Not sure what you mean by "disrupt", here. I think you will automatically get the benefit of the meso prestige re-enable. Otherwise, you obviously won't be factoring in the new Metabits Time node or any of the other nodes if you keep the existing run going
well previously the idea was to let the time crystals really inflate before i started filling metabits/knowledge (which to my unerstanding was at 21 days). if i did it now, are my last 16 days of waiting worthless? or will i still get good results, just not as good as if i waited for the full 21
If you wait until 21, you might be able to get Tachyon Funnel on your first run
... I would be surprised if Pepperjack could. Not totally.. but mostly surprised.
no way
my previous best cumulative sim run yielded me only 6 CC metabits
and that was like, a 13 day sim
Gotcha
yeah, but the re-enable of Meso Prestige.. idk... I'm not sure.
Yes. Either way, you are close enough to the 21d3h finish line, you should wait.
great!! I totally missed the ocean one until I was like an hour in and doing reboots, lol.
I was half way. Still keeping that save on my phone as backup just in case.
new primordial power tree
.. I was too impatient, lol
One weirdness is that NeoAves is important now!
got a lot of work to do here lol
You will see.
Like, you know how there was Primordial Power where you wanted to max that out? There's a new one for Land as well as a new one for Ocean.
yeah i posted up there about the new poseidon and genesis trees
.. and a new Primordial Power which might be useless for our mutual end-game.. though I don't have all the Primary nodes yet, so that may yet change.
ah ok that's what you meant, I was a little confused.
hallo
hey DOV!
after Mollusk comes to non-beta, will the reboot come to beta?
That's a beta question, ask in #๐ฌ-beta-chat
Oops, I forgot, wrong channel lol
heh it's ok. easy mistake to make
lol
I am just surprised that they are calling that out as a feature as a peer with Beyond or Mollusks.. makes me think there's more to it than just a button you can press.
heh. it surprised me too. I do keep an eye on the beta patch notes.
lol
I love this game too much
Same lol
Hopefully once it comes to beta, some nice person will give us a brief rundown under spoiler tag as to how it generally works. I'd like to know if I should bother caring about it.. or reserving darwinium for it, lol
Who?
More darwining PLS
Idk. Probably Arch_Dux, they've been nice that way before ๐
Haven you typed the code for Darwinium?
The next two things after Enormous Eyes only give about 2x each.
Maybe a quick run or two to buy RE stuff then it might be back to sitting for 21 days.
nodnod.. yeah, I expect to start a 21 day run before I go to bed tonight.
Your savior will not come.
Oh? He's not my saviour, but why do you say that?
Heโs gone.
Oh?
Not dead, of course.
Left the server.
Was driven mad by a certain (quickly growing) selection of individuals.
.. huh. You wouldn't be him, after a rename.. would you?
Ofc, if what you are saying is true, and I am right in my total guess that you are him, you probably wouldn't admit it here, lol
only 1 continent is american.. and even then, only about a third of it.. much though a certain president would have you believe otherwise. ๐
those aren't american, even if they have america in the name. A subtle distinction, perhaps
doesnt matter, the time zones line up for an afternoon over there
No secret lasts forever. Just ask the dataminers.
Well... depends on the encryption and passkey.
.. for certain definitions of "forever"
cts uses 0 encryption, only stuff thats safe are the transactions (steam handles them) and server side stuff (even then i think it just needs an auth token)
yeah, not saying Cells is (or needs to be) especially secure.
so anyone can just change their darwinium number
or turn off the thing in the game's code that detects you as a cheater
i mean its a bit more complicated than that
how
can someone remind the devs to update the shortcut icon that comes with the game's first installation
Why?
I mean, they'll get to it when they do. Probably it's a Steam thing. If you uninstall and reinstall, it'll probably change.
well its not like you can just go in and do like > cheat detection false, there are many steps (and im not gonna be one to promote cheating here)
i think you can just manually fix it, like go into its properties and change its icon
if you do stay curious there are things you can look up online to get an idea of how to datamine, wont say more than that tho
Hey, I just started the game today and I'm not sure how else to progress after buying the humans upgrade. I think my game might be bugged, where do I go for help?
Might be time to restart your simulation. Send a screenshot if possible
Tbh I thinkโs Iโm gonna empty sim for the full 21 days even when the updateโs out
Cause I wanna get graviton expansion
Yeah, If youre more than half way to 21, id probably keep it going.
Iโm not but imma keep going anyway
Cause if I do keep going and max it out iโll definitely be able to snag all of mollusks
If your 72+ now, thats probably possible.
that seems rather unlikely to me.. but I haven't mathed it out, I could be wrong.
what does empty sim mean
Basically not buying any generators and waiting for the time crystals and whatnot to fill up first
Cause thereโs somethin bugged allegedly
it's less bugged and more bad balancing
the feature can work well just not in the way they've implemented it currently
Safe to send our saves to mobile this week to double our daily DW from 5 to 10, or not worth risking weird version things?
I'm not going to risk it..
It is just a few days.
that too. besides, doing the usual beyond research things'll probably get you the additional 5 that way anyway
its almost sad to already be back to just sitting and waiting.
Heh. Are those the only ones you have left?
correct
You did grab Primordial Power VIII, yeah?
yeah. just those 3 left
Ok. You are further ahead than me, then.
Your empty sim run really helped you out there. I'll have to remember that for Industrial Rev.
you're still slightly ahead in level
Yes true. You are still at 75, then?
is the bot for linked rolls still down? (also I'm not actually new here, I accidently left a while back, forgot to join)
yes, still down
dang :(
i was able to hit 76, then called it quits and started the next empty run.
Ah ok, that's good then!
It says my next thing is unlocking Glires
But Glires is locked until research level 3
how do I get research level?
How is 2.35E186 even possible there?
I had e200 just a few hours ago, until I upgraded all things to like 2000+ levels
... time shenanigans?
oh, you're basically playing a different game than us. we wont know how to fix that.
Yeah... something is very wrong there.
Hi
So apparently I had played this game only for 10 minutes like almost a year ago or sometime loong time ago. Then I re-downloaded again today. I had e200 of that thing sitting in my inventory.
you're going to have to ditch that account and start over with a new one.
Ok
It must have been super long ago because I was gaining like 2-3 M and stored away e200
Do I delete save or reset simulation?
delete save.
There's another way to do it too
Lmao I just looked at my last save and it was March of 2020
So I guess I played for 10 minutes sometime in Covid era
Then opened it back again after 6 years
Will be a lot of idle earnings lol
I am not surprised the game got confused. there's been a lot of changes since then, including a major revamp a few months ago
But it's weird because the game wasn't even in my library and I've changed my PC 2-3 times since then. So no local saves. The game just booted back up with icloud save from this account after downloading the current version of the game
Yeah, idk.. it did convert accounts from the old format with the revamp, to the new one.. research levels weren't even a thing. But yeah, considering things, best you start again.
I think I'll just keep this cursed account just for the gigs
Only problem, I have to task manager force close steam everytime I close out of the game because it refuses to stop running
Might open it back up after few years again
How did you progress past Fish without being forced to reboot?
Apparently I'm playing 2020 version of the game
Thatโs impossible, as the Reality Reboot released in 2025, which you clearly have.
โResearch Levelโ didnโt exist until the Reality Reboot.
I have no idea, I went offline for 6 years and redownloded the game again today
Only dino
so whats the max level on the others atm?
ah okay ty ty
I've never seen a Carina before and I have no clue why it costs fossils...
it's obviously a weird bug
And on this note, I'm off to bed.
goodnight
How we would unlock the rain frog?
I think it'll be much more fruitful if you wait. Those Time Crystal multipliers will have a big effect.
It would probably be fruitful if you did it now though - because of the new stuff you can get because of molluscs.
I'm in the same position - 16 days in. Except am on android so no choice but to wait ๐.
In bed but not quite asleep. I think Gavel was over 21d but waited anyway, and they are actually furthest ahead in RE nodes, much further than I.. and I did a lot of reboot spamming tonight... well, ok, not completely further, I am a level ahead of them, but still! So I think optimal is to mimic that for Ind Rev.. and for you specifically, wait until the full 21d.. though I guess you have to, so... works out for you ๐
Yeah. Makes sense to me to wait to get both the mollusc boost and the full Crystal boost.
yo
Can someone tell me why this isn't unlocking? I remember playing a year or two ago and they unlocked as I progressed, but now they don't. There's no way to unlock them at all, or is there a way?
get gud
i believe they either need a higher level or just further items to unlock
they could also be the future content stuff but im unsure
finally
why the hell Android Update 1 week later
updating to phones takes more time cause the app store has to verify it, and maybe changing code over just takes time
last Updates it worked too it was some Hours after Steam on Phone so not a good reason
Hi chat
They would need to delay updates on steam till appleshitstore and googlestore approve of the updates.
Steam is just faster
Canโt even get past bivalves in the mollusk update lol
Despite 43.42 already being on TestFlight
OMG!!!! After I couldn't change the screen size to the size I wanted, I quit. But even though it is the same bug now too, I fixed it!!!!!! Now, I will play again(although it is reset)
Congrats!!!
Do you play primarily on steam?
I've never seen this game look so frutiger aero
To annoy you specifically.
Android players waiting longer than iOS players lol
Yep
Don't make fun of me bromine ๐ญ
I am Android
I was so eager for ep29 and I had to waittt
Ep29?
Beyond.
bros that missing generator
Bromine is crazy, brotein shake
Bromato sauce on my spaghetti
tasty
๐คทโโ๏ธ
How we would unlock the rain frog?
It comes with the update
The one available on Steam and coming out on mobile next week
The same way that you do now.
Itโs not an augmentation.
And how?
i am at research level 34, mesozoic 33 and beyond 12, what should i prioritise rn?
Nothing. Each sim is its own thing, and they're made so that you can do each of them in parallel. Prioritize whatever you like most.
oh, then what do i prioritise for primary sim??
Same idea, buy whatever you can buy. As for the Reality Engine, you can follow Semblance suggestions. They're not the most optimal thing, but they're overall good.
ohh alright, i thought semblance suggestions were bad ๐ญ
Prioritize metabit and knowledge if you can in RE. but otherwise just buy the thing which gives biggest number first.
fun fact: in christmas an ape version of santa appears in the beyond sim riding his sleigh around the earth
why is the music for the music event lowkey fire
yea i remember seeing it
jk i dont
Its correct for what single purchase will give the most benefit. Though I dont think it accounts for price, so sometimes buying multiple cheap nodes would give more benefit than the 1 expensive node it recommends.
idk man, maybe because the event is related to music
just a hunch tho
there's a single frame where you can actually see bigfoot uncensored after you pan your POV away
oh, is there a calculator
i tried to capture his face but the fact that this is 1 frame timing makes it very hard
someone must have recorded it
here
he looks so ๐
bro his head looks like he got bonked by a cartoon hammer
/s
mount fuji ahh head
LMFAO
is there any list of all the beyond balance changes?
No.
Get the Beyond to 15, then focus Primary.
also is the background the entire observable universe? holy beyond is paying off this is satisfactory af
it really is lmao
Yeah, since the Revamp. I do jump to iPad to get the 4x ad boost though.
Thanks for the response! Is there an benefit to steam, I know mobile has the 4x like you mentioned but I've never played PC
steam is on pc thats a benefit by default usually
able to afk with autoclickers for longer
and usually better performance
and fps
Steam gets the update first, by a week, and you can also use an autoclicker (which is ok with devs)
Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense! I assume the leaderboard is cross platform then?
If I'm on android I'll see a steam player above me who may already have the update 'boost'
yes it is
alright
how many of yall got dms by @woven yew
wait
whys there 2
Bots.
Remind me what โCCPโ stands for.
my entire decade has been ruined
chinese communist party, the official name is communist party of china (in english translated)
Wang C F again
@lament moat dawg look at the number of other wangs
@woven yew @night iris @covert gyro @bronze ferry
do u believe it man?? they copying u but dw bro imma get scammed only by u
What..
-# we found that and done something before
W wang chuanfu in the chat
man idk
they copying u be careful
stay safe out there u got competition ๐ญ ๐
lets go
i am gonna sell all my family heirlooms and then give it to u (make sure to rig the giveaway and give me the car)
matter of fact i am also gonna sell all of my own belongings
will i get a guaranteed car if i do allat
btw what research level are u
@lament moat dont leave me alone ๐ญ
Looks promising.
i got his backside once
and a very nice dolphin pic too
peak
The great Cosmic Microwave.
the final episode ๐ญ
man when they release it i am gonna start crying
truly been the journey of all time
sad to see it go
is this ai generated image of "cosmic microwave"
Indeed.
that black hole looks delicious
god will take us out of the microwave soon
and eat us
that will be the heat death
i am so hungry i could eat a black hole rn
/lh /j
looks like God felt a little hungry, hopefully they release episode 30 in the next world sooner โ๏ธ
okay fair fair
mhm
To be fair, it has been โalmost doneโ for over a year and a half.
game design and making sure everything is good takes a long time
like with that ancestors the humankind odyessy game
after the game came out
the devs said that the sequel was complete on paper
but making it would take a bit longer
i think
(how the fuck is that game 6 years old already?!)
crazy
Indeed! My question is: how much DW are they gonna charge to use the reboot automation, and is it more than just "completing primary for you", and if so, how?
i dont know
holy...
It was only a year and a half between E18 and E28
BRO
MY WIFI IS WORKING FINE BUT THE GAME KEEPS SAYING IT ISNT
I'VE RESTARTED MY GAME OVER 10 TIMES
WHY WONT YOU WORK
The answer to that could be complicated... you have WiFi, sure, but how stable is the connection? I can't answer that, only you can
(and ofc if anything else is using it, and depending on other people using WiFi up to maybe 20 meters from you, including through walls/other apartments, that can impact WiFi stability too)
it literally opens everything else fine
Then, idk. Cells has always run great for me on Steam
i almost have every idea upgrade ๐ฅน
i've never seen the list being THIS small before
On a smartphone you sometimes need to deactivate activate wifi and or 4G/5G to make it connect again
Also sometimes your wifi is stuck in some "local" network and could be your box needing a restart
I'm completing the quadrillions and quintillions and thought it ended at sedptillions. I'm cooked.
Could be months before they add any new nodes to the idea/knowledge side. You might be able to finish it by then.
the metabit one ends at the nonigtillions ๐ญ๐
just upgraded inner solar system, the asteroid belt and jupiter(and it's moons) to rank 20
the no. one
Just upgraded the entire solar system section to level 20 :D
Trans neptunian objects here I come
absurdtillion. this is ideocrazy.
just use scientific notation
what will happen when c2s makes an upgrade higher than e308
we are not having this conversation for the 4th fucking time ๐ญ
oe did they find a way to bypass it
nice
what most games do
they make a new currency that requires a huge amountof the old currency (EX: Metabits)
believe me, it goes much higher
so that 10 of the new currency technically bypasses the e308 limit
not yet
but one day you will
Yes just learn it finally, back to school
i still question how the fuck do people balance their production between metabits and knowledge

yk we learned scientific notation in like 4th grade
just do your research chips evenly
the excuse is that every incremental game uses normal notation so i eventually got used to it
i did
ok, so, then, no problem then!
nuh uh
like i did
Thats like saying: because everyone is jumping from a skyscraper im doing it too
my knowledge production can reach the septillion range but metabit only at the quintillion range
It's going to be uneven for you at endgame, depending on which update was last. rn it's for metabits, so metabits is higher
translation for scientific users: my knowledge production is almost 1000x my metabit production
not for people under RL 73
doesnt it automatically turn into scientific once you go past 1e200 or smth
unfortunately yes
well.. maybe. but metabits and knowledge, it's like two separate games in one, almost
is there a single person in this server that uses the custom numbers
more than one. I use Custom, it's great!
like all of us use classic or scientific notation
oh like the ones with letters
what upgrades should i pick?
and I'm level 77, which is higher than the others here that aren't beta, so that proves it's superiority, for game play! ๐
how does custom even work
neutrino relic spotted??
1 million is 1aa I think??
Idk
I've only ever used the other two
Hi
Like normal up to T (trillion/1E9), and then goes to alphabet after that, so AA, BB, CC, etc for each 1000. Easy.
what happens after ZZ
i have like 90%-95% of the tree unlocked
AAA
Whats up
ohhhh
AAA, BBB, CCC, ... , YYY, ZZZ, AAAA, BBBB, etc.
Oh hi
so it just screams if you go past ZZZZZ
it sleeps
First mobile game that got me hooked
and then it wakes up screaming
presumably, but that's way off.
yeah lol
I was jk
(pls help me and my immature mind :3)
how does it fit in the currency bar at the top
easily. plus, changing font size is a thing.
Any tips?
(and E280 or whatever, is 4 characters. That would fit up to ZZZZ, which we aren't even close to)
spam every generator
as much as you fucking can
with maximum setting for buying upgrades
did the devs nerf the mesozoic valley prestiges this update?
cause getting each extinction feels slower now for some reason
yeah i heard its pretty good
So its better to keep them untill i get how much i need?
no idea, I finished Meso Prestige like a year and a half ago. However, Meso Prestige counts in Reality Engine again, so yay!!!
im prestige 4 and it's boring
but atleast i have motivation to do it again after they brought back the boost
yes, very VERY boring. I hated doing it.
it's so clustered in here lmao
Hello at this point just reboot often when you see nothing is moving and then buy whatever you can, probably better the diamond ones
they should add prestige dinosaurs, aka the one you get per every time you prestiege
Recommended by the game
But you can also choose depending on your gameplay and your goals
Btw u do the glithces end at lvl 74?
idk yet. But I haven't seen one since 74, and I am at 77 now.
i'm only at level 68 ;-;
Also u forget they lowered the xp req for all levels past 70 considerably
Well they do end at 74 then lol
is there a max research level orrr
.. that said, there is still a hidden node in the Birds area.. maybe there's an unlock at 78/79/80?
I dont know what to pick ๐ซ
100 or smth
after playing for 5 years...
whaaa i thought those were unlocked later
I'm level 52
just unlocked machu picchu
Hello!
Nope, that's a spoiler, it unlocks at a much later lvl
idk, i only have the parrot augment
Someone sent an img of it here, if u remembering seeing it.... you'd know the exact lvl req
If you want to focus on some part you could try to do upgrades related to what you need
But at this point I think you can do whatever, but don't hesitate to reboot
do you know that from beta stuff? and if so, how much higher a level?
Ye, I saw in beta chat + someone sent an img in this channel too
I think before research level 70 or levels close to 70, you can do whatever, and don't worry you will progress on something anyway
nono.. not nearly enough. I started a empty sim run about 11 hours ago
I remember Time Crystal 2 in beta was 5e21, they increased it to 2e23
i've been suggesting that for so long
even 1 singular new dino every 1-2 prestiges would be more than enough motivation for completionists
Oh nice, this means u can reach 78 and higher too
Gavel is actually closer to unlocking it bc he had a empty sim run > 21d ready to cash in after the update.
That is my hope, yeah
honestly after doing a 7d empty sim run normal runs feel useless now
like the 7d empty sim run gave me so much progress and i bought so many upgrades to the point where the next uprade is much more expensive than my current production rate
Oh nice lol
As prestige is a dino sim reboot, it doesn't make sense for me to add a dinosaur, also it's more complicated to implement, could require more work from devs, so they would have less time to work on updates and bugs correcting
Yea my new 3rd run just started lol
I had to spam reboot lots yesterday to get in the rough vicinity of where Gavel was, with zero effort. Heh. But now I know better for next time, and at least the spam reboots gave me plenty of XP
I think you gotta start from 1 again with a new update ๐
Yes. On sim 833
Do you use autoclicker for reboot ? Or do you always take the manual time to click all ?
I had to finish my 2nd run to get enough metabits to buy Time Crystal 2, so I couldn't really wait
oh gods yes. spam rebooting without an autoclicker sounds like total agony. impossible, at least for me.
Yeah we agree lol
Damnn, I'm still at 91 lol
I stopped spam rebooting at ~85 I think
heh, it took a lot of reboots to get to 74 earlier, all that in terms of trying to keep 1 level ahead of everyone else non-beta, lol

silly I know, but the competitive aspect is part of the fun of the game, for me
Me I still don't know what I'll do when update is live on mobile, do I try empty sim as it will be already started, or will I just reboot...
how many days will you be at, once the update arrives on mobile for you?
Is there an Entropy Time Chamber VI? I only see up to V in the reality engine
no, V is latest. They did add a Time Crystal II with the update though.