💬-cells-chat

[dry cairn]

Im surprised they still havent fixed the friend list.

[tall mirage]

I'm prod-only

I was just basing it off of || Tachyon Funnel, which is 1e30 ||

[wintry night]

When are mollusks coming out?

[tall mirage]

E29 ain't even out on android/iOS till now

[tall mirage]

Defo sometime in Feb

[static pagoda]

oh

we need to wait

[celest garnet]

What is GE

[rough axle]

graviton expansion, the final node that costs knowledge in the reality engine

[celest garnet]

Oh ok thanks

[solar garden]

Eh, lost 150 darwinium bcs of missclick

Wish the game had refund

[dry cairn]

Does if there is a recent save you can roll back to.

[swift heron]

im surprised they still havent reworked the jukebox

that shi doesnt even have a loop option 😭

[tough igloo]

what could you spend 150 darwinium on by accident

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[solar garden]

On axolotl

I clicked to see what its going to give and the game froze

I clicked again and the game unfroze

[tough igloo]

seems like an ansolute win to me

id spend a thousand on an axolotl

[solar garden]

Now i have only 6 darwinium

[tough igloo]

oh 💔

[solar garden]

Some how i got 4 sx of metabits

After reboot at max i get 4 qi

Im just cursed

Every bug that can happen will hapen to me, i should be a beta tester

[fluid delta]

I reach cap this afternoon! (21d3h?m)

How much does it cost?

[tall mirage]

I mention in the next mssg below that

[fluid delta]

I totally assumed this 🙂

[swift heron]

currently i have knowledge dominating metabit production by ALOT is that normal

[tall mirage]

Nicee, I need 1 IRL day more

[swift heron]

it's dominating by like over 10x

[tall mirage]

Yes, it will dominate by over 1 million later on

[fluid delta]

I don’t see a specific cost mentioned for the most expensive node

[tall mirage]

Oh || 1e30, called Tachyon Funnel, I'm assuming it's the same as GE ||

Both of these are imaginary particles after all

[fluid delta]

heh yes, it does seem like that’s where it’s going. Ok, that price in Custom is… || 1 FF || … let’s see how doable that is for me, one sec while I check notes

[swift heron]

uhh you mean 1 million x?

[tall mirage]

Not doable rn at all of course

[polar viper]

Reject custom and normal.
Use scientific

[tall mirage]

Yea

[swift heron]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

wudahell

i should have NOT focused on spending my research level stones on balancing entropy and ideas

[tall mirage]

y, u should keep them balanced

[swift heron]

ideas are going to keep dominating more and more over entropy

[dry cairn]

I should be there tomorrow, let me know how amazing it is 🥳

[swift heron]

so why should i give it more

[frigid adder]

The ||mollusk|| update will surely make entropy the lead producer

[tall mirage]

yea but that's only till mollusks

[fluid delta]

True. About a million x more than I have. So, I suspect some spamming then a 21d empty sim run when Mollusks drops in a couple weeks, will be in order 🙂

[swift heron]

yea a whole ass month

[tall mirage]

Yea atleast enough to buy all the lower ones

[swift heron]

afk

[tall mirage]

yea and then ideas will dominate again in 2 months lol

[fluid delta]

custom is easier in this game, except when doing math with other people’s numbers!

[polar viper]

Nothing easier than scientific

U always see the perfect difference

[fluid delta]

no they aren’t, it will go back and forth depending on the update. keep the chips even

[fluid delta]

I will!

[fluid delta]

Maybe. But I bet more like 2 weeks from now.

[fluid delta]

That is my thought, yeah. Ofc I will have some saved up at start, that probably won’t be enough

[polar viper]

Is the update speed normal or is it a new thing since reality reboot? If mollusks hit in a few weeks already

[warm lodge]

Load a recent (crossplatform) save from before the wrong purchase to undo.

[tall mirage]

Yea should still be helpful as Time chamber 6 and time crystal 2

[fluid delta]

Scientific in this game is harder visually. Scientific here does stay to a fixed format, which is annoying,

[tall mirage]

They have like ~10 updates planned/in production for reality reboot even after mollusks, so it's not THAT surprising

[polar viper]

Are you on mobile? i dont see your problem tbh

[warm lodge]

Awesome! I would love to see you play this run.

[fluid delta]

It’s a guess when it drops, but Mollusks is on beta since yesterday.. and looking back at beta patch notes, I suspect sooner than later

[polar viper]

Really hard to catch up

[tall mirage]

He alr did a practice run on d17 and could buy GE 10 times over

[fluid delta]

it’s nothing to do with platform, scientific might be better if it stayed X.XXXEYYY format, but it doesn’t,

[tall mirage]

Yea earliest could even drop in 1st week of Feb

[fluid delta]

That’s kinda my assumption yeah

[dry cairn]

I feel like Entropy has almost always been the dominant one and Idea having the lead like it does now is a rare thing?

[fluid delta]

Well.. things have overall changed since the Reality Revamp

it’s almost a new game in that sense

[warm lodge]

Yeah, I would prefer them to be on roughly equal foot. Which is even rarer. If it ever happened at all.

[fluid delta]

it’ll be back and forth.. probably.

[tall mirage]

Prolly not THAT far from 1e50 metabit/knowledge

[dry cairn]

Entropy and Idea switching the lead each big update also work for me.

[fluid delta]

I’m fine with it too

[warm lodge]

Yea, could be fine for me.

Time chambers are getting close to max here. Time crystals are still far away.

And with the do-not-buy-anything strat, it's the time crystals that will do the heavy lifting.

[tough igloo]

before the beyond came out im pretty sure idea was way bigger than entropy

[dry cairn]

Yeah. At first I was thinking two 10 day runs wouldn't be that much worse than a single 21 day run. After myself and others did some testing though, it looks like an exponential difference. My guess is about a 30x benefit to waiting twice as long. We will get more info this weekend as a few of us are getting close to 21 days.

[tough igloo]

also what happened to cyborg

thought about it again

but its not after humans anymore

[dry cairn]

Temporarily removed as they want to redo that section of the game.

[tough igloo]

ohhhh

[warm lodge]

It may take quite some time before we see those back.

But they will come back.

But probably first mollusks, industrial revolution rework, and perhaps beyond ep. 30.

So I would not hold my breath waiting for the future garden rework.

[dry cairn]

True. It would be weird to release it with the Mollusks update so could be a while.

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[sweet hedge]

good for you

[swift heron]

how unfortunate

[strange lark]

another win for the life

[chilly bloom]

I am getting close to 21 days.. but the only thing I have kept track of are the xp levels which might be utterly useless (I went from the start of 62 to mid-65)

[strange lark]

<@&535129309648781332>

[primal stump]

!ban 1054475215805087755 scammer

[bright otter]

Banned josechu5757. (Case #4195) (user notified with a direct message)

[primal stump]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-bongo-cat-gif-18085186045616341050

[strange lark]

Quick funky execution

You love to see it

[primal stump]

i love doing that

I'd eat “banning bad people” for breakfast

[static pagoda]

oh my

[fluid delta]

Heh, that's about the one thing that tracking progress in an idle run doesn't tell you.

[amber oracle]

I think that should be GE upgrade once the bar is full

[fluid delta]

What should be? I'm not sure what you mean

[amber oracle]

like i can afford the gravitron expansion upgrade the next time the knowledge bar fills up

[fluid delta]

Ah, so it will!

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/so-it-would-seem-gif-18723492

[tall mirage]

It will go from 28 Oc to 50 OC? Seems like a big jump, but possible Ig

[amber oracle]

im getting 23 OC on the next fill

[fluid delta]

yeah, look at the knowledge converter

[amber oracle]

and time capsule isnt maxed still

[tall mirage]

Oh yea didn't see

That comma looks so out of place

Should be (.) fr

[fluid delta]

Heh yep. EU convention vs NA convention

[tall mirage]

NA wrong as usual

[polar viper]

always a problem of not using scientific notation tbh

whats even 23 Overclock?

or 711 Saxony

[tall mirage]

Interesting, 2/3rd of the world uses dot and 28% uses comma

[fluid delta]

Ikr! He should use "Custom", like sensible people!!

[polar viper]

thats like using feet or fahrenheit or football fields to measure things

[tall mirage]

Scientific > Custom > Normal

SHould have a poll fr

[polar viper]

nah logic should not be voted on.

[tall mirage]

🤷 The world doesn't operate on that unfortunately

[fluid delta]

No it’s not. It’s exactly like using kilo, mega, giga, etc to measure things. Powers of 1000, in an easy to remember format

[polar viper]

and that shows

[brazen junco]

Interesting opinion

[polar viper]

only works till you get into territory where noone uses the stuff anymore. nothing easy to remember anymore

[fluid delta]

sure it does. You use the alphabet, in sequence. Easy.

[polar viper]

ok then tell me the difference between exa and quetta without googleing it.

mr kilo, mega, giga

[fluid delta]

I said “custom”, not “metric”. After trillions, it goes to AA, BB, CC etc.

[polar viper]

then tell be the difference between AA and ABDE without googleing it or using calculators

[tall mirage]

Is custom A, AA, AAA, B, BB...?

[fluid delta]

ABDE isn’t used in Custom. It goes AA, BB, CC, .. ZZ, AAA, BBB etc.

[polar viper]

strange custom system

but still

[fluid delta]

not really. I find it very intuitive

[polar viper]

dif between AA and AAA is already not doable

in scientific u see it immediatly

its not without reason the scientific notation

[fluid delta]

sure it is. it’s E(26*3)

[tall mirage]

I like scientific, easier to notice smaller differences

[fluid delta]

this is not difficult

[polar viper]

it is i did not understand what u typed there

[frigid adder]

Normals my goat, I'll never cheat on googology

[tall mirage]

Most in agreement tho that normal is the worst

[polar viper]

at least that

[fluid delta]

Yeah, Normal is def the worst. And now my 21 game day Empty Sim Run is “ready to harvest”. Back in a bit 😄

[tall mirage]

stream it

[fluid delta]

lol no not going to stream it. i’m not set up for that anyway

[tall mirage]

just sharee SS after done

[fluid delta]

That I think I can do

[willow mango]

Numbers should be given their due respect and be written out in full. I’m only missing one hundred twenty-one novemnonagintillion experience to hit RL 74. 🥳

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[edgy nova]

So when you transfer your PC game to mobile, it's 2 separate saves, not the same save on 2 devices?

[rough axle]

correct

[fluid delta]

tsk, THAT isn't writing it out in full. I see not a single zero or separating comma/period in there, sir! 😄

[twilit flicker]

Hello people

[lofty magnet]

I also use AA etc, I did math and science so I understand the scientific notation but still find the custom one must intuitive. And easiest to see the differences in
But part of that is also because I have always used it, tried the other options now after I once again started playing this game after beeing away for a year if not more but nope. The custom one is the easiest.
Its a case of what you are used to I guess.

[sudden dome]

deleted my drawing in #🎨-cells-art since the shadow was from the direction of the star and i gotta wait 5 hours to send the fixed version

[swift heron]

just look how much cleaner this feels

you just have to get ***.Qa

and if the number is high it just changes the last 2 letters

it's so much easier

[polar viper]

How many zeros Qa does have tho? How much more is Qa compared to a trillion?

[swift heron]

who cares

[tough igloo]

i just like the actual number names cause ive played lots of incremental games that actually uses those

[rough axle]

15, 1000x

[polar viper]

e101 is higher than e100. Also pretty simple

[tough igloo]

not as cool

googol is way cooler

even has 2 o's

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gangster-monkey-monk-monke-shaptic-gif-21239890

[polar viper]

Would be so much easier with scientific notation. Once you reach territories that no number usually goes you have to google everything

[tough igloo]

nah

theres a counting scheme

i learned it once

up to a millillion

3003 zeros i think

[polar viper]

nothing is as easy as scientific because they number is just written there

[tough igloo]

but thats boring

;c

[polar viper]

I mean yes u can measure distance in feet, temperature in fahrenheit and areas in football fields, but then you decend into idiocracy

Scientific notation ultra
Abolish the other crap!

[rough axle]

i will admit imperial sucks EXCPET FOR FAHRENHEIT

[polar viper]

Same argument. Scientific always the best. So it goes: Kelvin > Celsius > Fahrenheit

[tough igloo]

nuh uh

[polar viper]

Also this is a science game not walmart

[tough igloo]

nobody is gonna say "oh its 310 degrees kelvin outside"

[polar viper]

Should tho

[tough igloo]

i already have to think what 310 was

have to do negative 273.15

for celcius

then do the whole 5/9 thing for fahrenheit

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-lion-thinking-ragebait-rage-bait-monkey-gif-14090242814517187668

[polar viper]

Fahrenheit scale is just bonkers. You could argue for every day life celsius is more uselful, but we play a nerd game

[vital tinsel]

In Celsius scale, 0 is the temperature where water turns to ice, and 100 is the temperature water turns to vapor
In Kelvin scale, 0 is the lowest possible energy state, and a variation of 1 degree is equivalent to a variation of 1 degree in Celsius scale
In Fahrenheit scale, 0 is a recorded temperature of 1704-1705 winter in Dantzig, and 96 is the temperature of horse blood

So yeah, bonkers

[tough igloo]

but see how much cooler fahrenheit is tho

yo gang, currently horse blood temperature outside

[rough axle]

im not even gonna bother arguing

[vital tinsel]

Literally cooler, yeah, since 0°F is colder than 0°C 😆

[rough axle]

im wrong and i know im wrong, and saying anything more will just get me beat further into the dirt

[vital tinsel]

Don't worry. It's not your fault you were raised in the US.

[rough axle]

And yet despite all this no one ever complains about how stupid time is

[swift heron]

"beyond is so slow!"
bro this literally took me less than 24 hours

[polar viper]

Thats true. We would need some Star Trek like standard time to fix it.
Ours is based on earth rotation and rotation around the sun alone

I mean makes sense for living on earth, but for everywhere else it would be useless

[rough axle]

Good thing I fixed it

[polar viper]

At least we have zulu time. So we could just abolish all timezones easily and fix one big pita

[rough axle]

I was too scared to touch timezones

I considered making utc actually universal like the name suggests, but I figured that would be too controversial

[tough igloo]

not everyone has the credit card maxed out

[swift heron]

i didnt use any money on this game

im f2p

[tough igloo]

then why do you have the infinity pass

for 3 days at that

[swift heron]

reward for returning to the game

[tough igloo]

breh

[swift heron]

had the infinity pass for 3 days

lost it today

[tough igloo]

so ur saying beyond 0 - 25 is 24 hours of time

[rough axle]

I think they mean 25 alone

[swift heron]

no

[tough igloo]

oh my bad

[swift heron]

im talking about the episode

[tough igloo]

ye no that makes sense then 😭

[swift heron]

people always complain that beyond is so slow

[rough axle]

You’d have to spend thousands to go that fast

[swift heron]

but i've always found it fast af

[tough igloo]

i was online for like 7 hours today and got to beyond episode 8

from 0

[swift heron]

like deadass

hold on i think i might find old messages from years ago of me saying beyond was always faster

.

i've always said beyond was faster

[tough igloo]

meso valley is speedable tho

[swift heron]

even year ago

[tough igloo]

i started yesterday and got my first prestige

if i wanted to i could definitely get the other 9 prestiges within 10 hours

[swift heron]

i didnt spend dwarnium on ANY geodes in mesozoic valley prestige 0
so a single extinction would take me weeks

[tough igloo]

cant flux the beyond tho

[tough igloo]

i bought like 3 diamond geodes at rank 50 prestige 0

to get those rares and epics

they go a long way

[swift heron]

where the hell do people keep getting hundreds of dwarnium bro

[tough igloo]

i kinda just started out, so codes, newspaper, linking account and socials gives like 400 already

that ontop of the immense amount of achievements

along with the reality tree +30 cubes constantly

[swift heron]

most achievments dont give dwarnium

[tough igloo]

and ofc the generator itself

[swift heron]

i didnt get reality tree +30 cubes when i reopened the game 3 days ago

[tough igloo]

eh the ones where u have to collect a certain amount give like 1 or 2 per milestone

[tough igloo]

i mean the upgrades

if its ur first time its like a free 90 or 120 cubes i think

[swift heron]

the game automatically bought alot of upgrades for me after i reopened the game

this was one of them

[fluid delta]

``
Ok, here's a few numbers for my full (21d) empty sim run. They're rough, but should be within 10%:

Entropy/sec = 145,000,000,000 X
Ideas/sec = 2,030,000,000,000,000 X
Metabits earned = 4,420 X
Knowledge earned = 10,200,000 X

Where X is the amount from one quick run where I let it sit for about 5 minutes.
From this we can reasonably infer that a full empty sim run is the only thing you should consider doing, when you have bought all the "easy" nodes you can reach, by reboot spamming.

After buying nodes, the only incomplete ones I have left are:

Idea Booster XI (80/100), next inc costs 6.3097E29
Metabit Booster IV (92/100), 1.2923E23
Entropy Speed Booster IV (54/100), 1.4454E23
Entropy Booster X (52/100), 1.2023E23

There are no further hidden nodes.

On the new empty sim run I have just started, the change from the last empty sim run start is:

Entropy/sec = 61.92 X
Ideas/sec = 144.43 X
Metabits earned = 1.78 X
Knowledge earned = 1.46 X

Oh, and I'm still RL74. That won't be changing until a future update. I hope this info entertains some of you :)
``

[rough axle]

As of the Reality Reboot all of them do

[tough igloo]

oh damn

[swift heron]

WHAT

i should have NOT maxed out the game bro 😭

[swift heron]

i used to have the main sim maxed out before the reboot

even had that one 50 qi upgrade

[tough igloo]

dayum

[rough axle]

*qa

[tough igloo]

i just started a new account cuz old one got lost

had so much darwinium

could REALLY use that right now

[rough axle]

<@&535129309648781332> kill

Crap they deleted

[swift heron]

i can ss

[fluid delta]

.. what did I miss? typical spammer?

[tough igloo]

stinky account with link

[rough axle]

No it was the “click this for help” kind

[swift heron]

typical scammer

[fluid delta]

ah! gotcha

[polar viper]

A Server bot probably nuked him for link posting is my guess

[swift heron]

it was @meager tiger

[hollow haven]

!ban 1237519601915658251 scam

[bright otter]

Banned hans076530 (Case #4196) (user notified with a direct message)

[rain rain]

bonked

[frigid adder]

It scorched my messages too : (

[polar viper]

Purged

[frigid adder]

Kids, never use herbicide, you could destroy bystanders

[tough igloo]

Good thing i use landmines

[frigid adder]

Dawg, the plants can NOT be that annoying 😭🙏🥀

[polar viper]

No i think thats for the bystanders

He wants to save the plants

[frigid adder]

The bystanders = plants too

[dry cairn]

@fluid delta fills quickly got slow enough that it wasn't worth letting it run for a day?

[fluid delta]

Correct. I let it run for maybe an hour, something like that. Probably even that was too long, but I wouldn’t even notice in a practical sense

[tall mirage]

How much metabits and knowledge u earned

[placid birch]

We should add a meme channel

[covert fulcrum]

Bro these new numbers are confusing as hell

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[covert fulcrum]

Like

[rough axle]

#😂-memes . . .

[covert fulcrum]

I have 1 googol, Bro its bizarre

[placid birch]

Where did that even come from

Whatever

[frigid adder]

The Beyond numbers fr

[covert fulcrum]

Im talkin about primary

Bro i had like

I cant Even spell

😭

When does the dinossaurs simulation ends?

[tough igloo]

perchance.

[covert fulcrum]

Wdym?

[rough axle]

Optimal endgame strategy summarized by Gemini

[tough igloo]

ok so basically

dont play the game at all

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-lion-thinking-ragebait-rage-bait-monkey-gif-14090242814517187668

[willow mango]

As is often the case, the only winning move is not to play the game at all. Very wise. 🤔

[rough axle]

yes

[sweet hedge]

ooh i got 10 darwin for da devs themselves

damn it i forgot to screenshot

it because of the frogcast player id thingy

[frigid adder]

Is it an achievement?

[sweet hedge]

no its like a gift pop up

yknow the darwin gift logo we all got when reality reboot just updated

[frigid adder]

That gave us an achievement

[sweet hedge]

but now it didnt

it only have u 10 gumball

/darwin

[fluid delta]

Metabits: 3.62 DD/E24/Sp
Knowledge: 5.44 FF/E30/No

[tall mirage]

Damn 100x knowledge

[fluid delta]

Compared to?

[tall mirage]

You alr know

[fluid delta]

I guess I'm a bit dense this afternoon, but I forget what you mean

[tall mirage]

GE lol

[fluid delta]

oh right, lol. Yeah. But you notice I still couldn't finish off all that one node, where each increment is like 12x what GE costs now, lol

(but I expected that)

[tall mirage]

Yea you'd need like 3 more runs for it

Should be easy until next idea update

[fluid delta]

No, I think it would take more than 3. But yeah, I do expect to get it done before next idea update

[tall mirage]

Oh I was counting 1 of those runs into mollusk

The sim speed increases might just be enough to get it under 3

Plus your next run after the current one will reach 1E31 knowledge I'm guessing

[fluid delta]

Yeah, idk... 7 FF, sure. 10 FF like you suggest, no. I wouldn't be surprised to need 4 or 5 runs to get that node.

[tall mirage]

I think 10FF is possible, but yea let's see

[fluid delta]

You'll note my new base start is about 1.5x for a quick sim run, so I would expect that ratio to persist, hence 7 8

[tall mirage]

Yea and 5.44x that is 8

[fluid delta]

ok, granted. 8 it is 🙂

[mellow carbon]

I wonder how long it's going to take them to realize this is costing them people watching ads and nerf the strategy.

[tall mirage]

Another just need another 1.25x multi from somwhere
SHould be posssible

[fluid delta]

I don't see from where.. unless Mollusks brings us something that works both sides

[mellow carbon]

I hope they also fix the 2x time for idling in beyond.

[tall mirage]

I mean only a minority are doing it rn so

[fluid delta]

eh, we still watch ads for the non-Primary stuff.. same as before the revamp when I ignored RE for months and months bc I was done with it.. so, same old same old?

[tall mirage]

How many peeps actively play the game?

[fluid delta]

shhhhh. No. Let that be our little secret. 😆

<@&535129309648781332> spammer

[hollow haven]

!ban 441246531681648660 scammer

[tall mirage]

Other tha sim speed increase, it doesn't look like

[bright otter]

Banned s0uleim4n (Case #4197) (user notified with a direct message)

[primal stump]

oh

[fluid delta]

Possibly the Mu thing in the DW store might

[tall mirage]

It doesn't I checked

[fluid delta]

darn. oh well.

[tall mirage]

Affects idea production but that's minute so

[frigid adder]

I missed another execution?

[fluid delta]

Yes. Superquick

[tall mirage]

Yess, but it's just the same ol

No new types

They need to come up with a lil variety

[fluid delta]

I'd rather they didn't, personally

[tall mirage]

I mean it will happen eventually

[thorny spire]

Can I see my fastest singularity record, if yes where

[frigid adder]

In re

[tall mirage]

@fluid delta what's ur current XP

[fluid delta]

About 1.72E300

[tall mirage]

Ah so even in old one you wouldn't reach 75

[fluid delta]

Nope. Unfortunately

[trim badger]

Hi, is it safe to play Beyond on PC and then start the game on phone with cross platform saves when its not released on phones yet ?

[tall mirage]

All the fault lies with the massive XP req after lvl 70 anyways

Ig they don't want us to reach lvl 100 soon

[desert pebble]

holaaaa

[tall mirage]

I tried that

[fluid delta]

Yep. But that's ok.

[tall mirage]

It will show you have Beyond E29 on phone
The positions of the new generators will be F'ed

[tall mirage]

Yea, but I hate that it was linear before and not after that

[thorny spire]

Where

Anyways I just got gotta go fast achievement, I remember it was 30 seconds(?)

[frigid adder]

The statistics section

[dry cairn]

Since there arent any significant nodes left to get, If we hit another 21 days before Mollusks, I guess you could let that sim run for a moment to see how long it would take to gain a level.

[thorny spire]

Aight thx

What was the fastest time to singularity

[tall mirage]

I mean it'll be of no use tho
Your time chambers/crystals aren't increasing anymore

[thorny spire]

Like who got the fastest

[tall mirage]

and it'll take u 12 days (6 with the 2x boost) to have e6 idea/entropy higher than idea/s or entropy/s

[fluid delta]

I know that without additional major increases, no way will I get to 75 based on what I could earn after a run.

[dry cairn]

Hmm, just too big a number at the moment.

[warm lodge]

🕔 My 0 generators are super super efficient now. 🕔
Now it's just the time crystals left before I can set it all loose.

[dry cairn]

And now more waiting ⌚️
My rough math put a 21 day run being 193x better than a 10 day run.

[fluid delta]

Yeah, that tracks with what I saw, too

[mellow carbon]

Is there a way to choose the game version on steam? I want to keep it consistent with my phone version to avoid potential issues.

[fluid delta]

No, I don't think so. Steam will force Cells to the current version, if there's a download present and you're not currently running the game.

(note: that's Computer Lunch choosing that, not Steam. Other games sometimes offer flexibility there)

[mellow carbon]

Yes, I'm used to Factorio which lets me choose any version.

[white egret]

there is a way to download old versions from steam, but i think they're somewhat disconnected

[tacit widget]

im 8 days into my current sim. and im making practically no progress towards 73. but i can afford the last level of primordial power VII. should i be holding out for another 2 weeks?

[dry cairn]

No, the 21 day thing is only for when doing a buy nothing / empty sim run.

When doing regular runs, reset anytime you have enough to purchase some good nodes like primordial power.

[inner tapir]

primordial power was a must have before beyond e29 released. the RE goalposts seem to have been pushed forward in terms of requirements for leveling. i'd still consider PP fully loaded is something you should prioritize

i was very close to lvl 73, roughly 72.85% and since recent update i've been at about 72.2%

i still need 11 powers of exponents to increase to get to lvl 73 lol

[tiny forge]

👋

[fallen sage]

👋

[coral crow]

Wow I've been gone a while... When did the cost sort change to whatever this "most efficient" thing is?

[dry cairn]

It was most efficient until a month ago, now im not 100% sure what it does

[coral crow]

Definitely not cheapest like it was before the reboot, that's for sure

[dry cairn]

Now its whatever gets you the biggest result, without taking its cost into consideration.

[coral crow]

Seems odd for something triggered by clicking an icon of coins, but whatever I guess

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lean niche]

Definitely won't hold it, but well...

[still carbon]

👋

[coral crow]

"biggest result" is definitely going to leave you heavy in one area depending on your multipliers

[gray tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/nautilus-nautilus-collision-sad-silly-nautilus-nation-gif-6601403667575938895

[dry cairn]

Wonder if I did my 21st day run on mobile instead of Steam if I could get from 73 to 74 before the update. Hmm, probably not.

[mental sedge]

1.618 reference?

[dry cairn]

Mollusks will be in the next update. I do hope they mention 1.618 in the mollusk facts or somewhere.

[rough axle]

how is this number significanrt

wait isnt that the golden ratio

[mental sedge]

Yeah

that’s why

[mild viper]

Hey is it just me or why the separate simulation music all gone

[pliant sand]

whats the hardest episode in beyond?

[rough axle]

18

[pliant sand]

I’m in 25

[rough axle]

good news 26 should be really easy

[mental sedge]

Def that or 6

[pliant sand]

yay

[pliant sand]

tell me if I’m cooked or I’m cooking

[pliant sand]

thx

[frigid adder]

I h8 the fact that they removed all those tracts

[mental sedge]

Maybe there was a bug

Or smth like that

Or maybe they forgot idk

[coral crow]

Either that or licensing

[frigid adder]

Aren't most the songs they use classical?

[coral crow]

The song itself might be public domain, but the specific recording of said song might not be

But probably it's a bug

[rough axle]

If it was a licensing problem it wouldn’t be in the game in the first place

[desert flax]

yeah that one's very hard

you slide after that one

e21 here I come

[fluid delta]

Actually, depends on if they want to continue paying for a license

[fiery pier]

How fast do you need to be to obtain the "simulation speedster" and the "sonic speedster of simulations" role?

[frigid adder]

For Simulation Speedster, you need 6 minutes, and for Sonic Speedster, you need 2 minutes

[fiery pier]

Ok

[barren sparrow]

might wanna change this lol

[tall mirage]

you should share these in beta I'd say or atleast spoiler mark if sharing here

[desert flax]

||ooh new upgrades||

[tall mirage]

Nice for us

[amber canyon]

And - I imagine - losing players too. Because boring.

It can't be intentional .... But ... They did pull in that idle game expert guy ...

Anyone know if other idle games have this issue?

[amber canyon]

Time always passed weirdly. Even before the RR,when you went into beyond/Meso it would tell you more time had passed than had actually passed (the offline as watching time).

Again, I can't imagine that in game time being variable isn't intentional. 🤷. Not when they rebuilt the whole game for RR and it still happens.

[quasi ivy]

why did i get pinged

[amber canyon]

I think it still works 'properly' on Android as long as you're in 'buy max'. The buy x1 etc seem to be busted. There's bug reports about it.

[tall mirage]

Yea it ain't intentional, realised what the issue is/why it happens
Idk if/when they'll be able to fix it tho

[amber canyon]

Lots of the songs and the specific recordings are buy a guy who lets apps use.them for free (with accreditation) Especially the Beyond ones.

If you go to the wiki, you can find him, then you can just download/ad the full songs (not the clips that Cells uses) to your device/music app. Similarly for the classical pieces, there's plenty of good versions of the whole pieces available.

[amber canyon]

So they rebuilt the game and made the same mistake? Smh ...

[tall mirage]

No, they didn't change the time mechanics

this has always existed since day 1 I'd say

[amber canyon]

But wasn't RR basically a complete rebuild? I thought that's why they needed so long / alpha testing etc.

[tall mirage]

Yea but it doesn't mean that 100% of the code gets changed

[amber canyon]

I got the impression what with the changes - based on my knowledge of coding (mainly from the 1990s-2000s) that it would all have had to be redone or substantially scrubbed. Mind you, I've only ever done coding as a non-specialist. Only when I had to 😬.

I still shudder at my attempt to write a program to calculate from basic physics/thermodynamics how atmospheric ice crystals change size and shape as they experience supersonic shock waves. Not my proudest moment 😆

[tall mirage]

Yea but I mean like basic formulas won't get changed like total time = offline time + online time stuff like that

[quasi ivy]

im gonna start the AI event soon i think

[tall mirage]

🤔 Not sure how you'd even go about doing that lol

[amber canyon]

At the time I had some idea. Not now, lol. Involved some heavy maths ...

[tall mirage]

yea, the math part of it....

[amber canyon]

At top-level, sort of how you calculate lift of an aerofoil section. But an instantaneous change, not steady state. And in 3D.

(very roughly speaking)

[tall mirage]

Yea not like I got any clue how you'd even go about doing that

[amber canyon]

The aerofoil bit is (was) ~2nd year aero engineering degree stuff. Lots of simplifications to make the maths easy. I recall finding it easy-ish at the time. Now, I wouldn't even recognise the formulae, never mind know what to do with them, or how to do it 🤣.

[true vigil]

29 was really easy ngl

local void carries

[amber canyon]

Not surprising. Not many new generators. Never mind that most of us have had lots of time to save up for it.

[true vigil]

yea

the hardest part was unironicly milky way

btw i refuse to believe 30 will be the last rank. it would need to have a lot of generators

cuz lanikea is too small for ep 30 to be observable universe

[quasi ivy]

we probs getting the sloan great wall

[true vigil]

yea i need the great wall

[quasi ivy]

whould be so cool

anyway i think beyond might go till 32 minimum

maybe 33 to have it be 2/3rd of meso ranks

[true vigil]

yea the old beyond 30 beta just kinda jumped from lanikea to observable universe

but that jump is a bit big

[quasi ivy]

yeah

i remember people showing that off and it felt so weird

[true vigil]

local group to virgo supercluster is also big ig

[quasi ivy]

yeah but nowhere close to the observable universe

[amber canyon]

They said before that 30 would be the last #💬-cells-chat message

But based on the announcement ||they might have added more||?

[quasi ivy]

they should also make an estimate of the size of the actual universe to round it off

and like that u can restart beyond if its gonna work like this cuz the real universe causes some kind of big bang if you "prestige"

[true vigil]

not observable?

[quasi ivy]

observable too ofc

both observable and the real universe in 1 episode id say

the real universe being millions of times bigger then the observable one ofc

[true vigil]

ngl i raelly want a periodic table exploration

sounds fun

[quasi ivy]

ive been asking for that for a while

we hardly have anything related to chemistry in c2s

so whould be nice to have an event as a tribute to it

[amber canyon]

It might be hard to make it an event that isn't just a catalogue-of-things (like e.g. cheese). 🤔

[true vigil]

yea

also fun fact theres a placeholder object where pavo indus clustur is located

its only in this one

[amber canyon]

Maybe they could do an event which is how elements are generated in stars. Probably just up to iron so not too long. Then maybe an after iron event after.

Although that's more physics than chemistry ofc.

[quasi ivy]

yeah i think periodic table could work aswell

like u unlock elements on the table and u got a seperate tree for aplying those elements

[amber canyon]

Sort of like how the disease tree is structured?

I think you could do an interesting chemistry event focussed on a particular area, e.g. glues or dyes/pigments or metallurgy.

[quasi ivy]

maybe 2 trees one for the periodic table which is basically the garden with traits like the deep sea event

and the second one adds molecules and other structures or other information about elements

[tardy wedge]

How do people actually finish the event without any assistance from autoclickers or smh

[tough igloo]

does science do anything outside of the event

[white egret]

no, its only your score inside events

[quasi ivy]

ive never had issues with completing events without autoclickers so idk. what are you doing for the event?

[tardy wedge]

I dont understand the last part

[undone quartz]

Does upgrading traits change pools of what you get in geodes

[amber canyon]

Check the pins

[tardy wedge]

Alr

Oh ok thanks

[tough igloo]

i dont really have any problems with the event

on challenge 3 right now

i log on every hour and double my stuff, buy the upgrades i can and then do other stuff for another hour

[tardy wedge]

oh so its basically idling

[lone bronze]

im still at fomalhauts ring bro (I started playing again in the reality reboot)

[tough igloo]

im at pluto rn 💔

[lone bronze]

you have it easy man

after ep 17 its suuper slow

[tough igloo]

ye i know

used to be on ep 17

i dont wanna spoil myself so i havent even checked anything that comes after

[lone bronze]

oh

[tough igloo]

tryna grind back to where i was

[lone bronze]

sry for spoiling a single object then

[tough igloo]

no i know formalhaut is a star ;p

[lone bronze]

oh ok

so you know nothing after ep17

[tough igloo]

nope

ofc ive heard about the updates and stuff

like it goes past the galaxy n stuff

but i havent seen it at all

[lone bronze]

yea

[lone bronze]

ok

I lowk thought when we were in the milky way I thought it was gonna end there 😭

[lone bronze]

as you said it goes past the galaxy

[tough igloo]

yeah

i honestly cant imagine what could be added in another 12 episodes after 17

and they still have more plans

[lone bronze]

what do you think ep18 is

[tough igloo]

this is the last thing i had

[desert flax]

oi spoiler

[tough igloo]

so i guess after 17 there might be more stars

[desert flax]

should be-in beta-chat...

<@&535129309648781332> timeout, no spoiler on something that should be (||e31||)

but that's still spoilers

that's a might

also maybe this guy, he's sent 3 gif/sticker in the last few minutes

[lone bronze]

sorry I forgor

[shrewd sandal]

Nearly there

[lone bronze]

how

im still at 41

[swift heron]

a single episode literally takes less than a day 😭🙏

[shrewd sandal]

Play the game more

[desert flax]

after 18 you slide imo

[lone bronze]

soirry

[lone bronze]

ok

[lone bronze]

18 is the hard one, 19 and beyond are quite fast imo

wakt

that's what u said right

😭

[desert flax]

...

[lone bronze]

I'm just

gonna go

bye chat

[primal stump]

The latest episode released is 29. Please refrain from sharing any information/rumors about future updates. Thank you. If you want to discuss content published in the beta, please do so in #💬-beta-chat

[lone bronze]

sorry, it wont happen again

[primal stump]

no problem, thanks for understand it

He did the right thing, there's no problem with that

The chat activity has nothing to do with him

it wasn't instantaneous

[final kite]

whats the best way to spend my chips (im level 13)

[white egret]

an even spread is good

[final kite]

ok

[lone bronze]

I suggest getting the same amount of both

[hollow pelican]

getting the same amount of both will make you easier to upgrade and boost the entropy and idea in the future

there's no confusion

[gloomy jacinth]

Hello, yeah you can spend it equally, and when you will reach level to unlock things related to last updates, you could choose the one needed, the things needed to complete the objectives in the main simulation

Also you could reset and respend all of those later

[lone bronze]

Which is better neoaves or feliforms

They're the next ones I'm getting

[final kite]

why arent they converting yet

[lone bronze]

Did you reboot?

If I'm not mistaken the background is red if you're in the reality engine

[final kite]

oh yeah im dumb

[lone bronze]

do multipliers work the same as factorials?

like, if I have entropy doubler, tripler and quadrupler do I get 24x boost?

[white egret]

yeah all the multipliers multiply

[white egret]

do you know the fills system?

oh is that not the question nvm

[final kite]

the what system

[white egret]

how you get metabits and knowledge

if you look in the top left of the reality engine and click on either the 2nd or 3rd tab itll show you your fills

(respectively meta and knowledge)

[polar viper]

i read file system
thought wtf has a file system to do with cells, except maybe savegames

[final kite]

i see it, but what does it mean

[white egret]

heres a more indepth thing

[final kite]

ok thanks

[white egret]

np, if youv got questions just ask

[tall mirage]

gotta work out a formula b/w knowledge and ideas tho

But ig will be impossible coz the knowledge efficiency gonna be diff for everyone

[white egret]

oh yeah i was working on that like 2 weeks ago

yeah i can make it an input tho

the problem is without reduction the numbers grow crazy fast

[tall mirage]

🤔 true

[white egret]

so ill have to log and intertwine the reduction thing

[tall mirage]

wdym reduction

[white egret]

your reduction %

in the RE its under the conversion stats

[tall mirage]

Oh the knowledge/metabit reduction

[white egret]

yeah

it applies to the fills

[tall mirage]

Yea, well just assume it's 95% for everyone lol

[white egret]

im at 93% rn

im currently afk maxxing rn

[tall mirage]

Yea but 95% won't take long

Esp with mollusks I'm sure

[white egret]

actually do you have the game open rn

could you check the name of the upgrade that gives the reduction

[tall mirage]

yea 1 sec

[rough axle]

Converter reduction

[white egret]

and then numbered?

[tall mirage]

Converter Reduction for metabits and Knowledge compressor

I-IV, 30% for the first 3, followed by 5%

[white egret]

sorry could you take a screenshot in game

i need like the spelling and stuff

[white egret]

ok i must be losing it but thanks

[shrewd sandal]

Made it ^^ and got the fella to go along with it

Time to reset my sim it’s been 10 days 😪

[white egret]

did some log laws and ive extended the basic form from ~1900 fills to ~10^308, i can prob get something usable soonish

[tall mirage]

🤔

[gloomy jacinth]

Mmmm for the simulation running many days, if I understand temporal chamber work as a multiplier, but each one got a max, and so the last one is corresponding to max 21 days ?

I don't think what I do is "empty runs" like you are often talking

For now I continue to buy generators and upgrades in the main sim, and I look metabits/knowledge production to see if I need a reset or not, if it's still moving when you look at it, I wait

But I don't know. I could reset more and buy more metabit/knowledge upgrades

But letting the game alone during many days also often makes the research level go up faster

[white egret]

the crystals max at 21 days but the chambers max at 11 days, i find the empty sim boring so i dont do it

the most optimal reset time if you are playing is either 21 or 11 days

[gloomy jacinth]

Crystals you mean entropy and metabits efficiency per cycles number ?

[white egret]

yeah

[rustic lantern]

I enter the dinosaur simulation and it says something like "latest save loaded" nothing happens and everything is normal then I enter the AI ​​event and it deletes all my progress and I was in 37th place a moment ago then I exit the game surprised I enter it again and the whole game restarted I have nothing and I have to play from the beginning I turned my computer off and on several times and nothing happens what should I do?

[gloomy jacinth]

Ok, I think I didn't completely understand those upgrades, but I was prioritizing it with metabits/knowledge gains/speed

[gloomy jacinth]

Do you play only on computer ?

[rustic lantern]

yes

[gloomy jacinth]

And did you use the save manager already ?

[rustic lantern]

no

wait

[white egret]

check the save manager, you might have some backups

[gloomy jacinth]

If you have an id and already used the save manager you could try to load this save, but if you didn't ... I don't know, maybe the save file is somewhere, maybe you are cooked sorry

[rustic lantern]

I managed to load yesterday's recording, as they say, something is better than nothing

[tall mirage]

Tbf, if u waiting 11 days, might as well wait 21 days

Coz resetting at 11d would be dum

[gloomy jacinth]

Yeah better than restart from scratch 👍🏻

[white egret]

the chambers are like the main things that give levels, after that you dont gain as much entro and idea

so the crystals arent boosting much

[gray tapir]

Is there any meme channel?

[polar viper]

how is your corrent progress btw? if u still have big upgrades left waiting weeks is not optimal anyways.

[gloomy jacinth]

It depends if you have still things to unlock in the main sim. And your research level

But I don't know if you already unlocked all

[white egret]

yeah #😂-memes

[lusty cloud]

off topic most likely

or that XD mb

[gray tapir]

ok

sent the funny image

[white egret]

i turned it off but i can still # it ig

[tall mirage]

No, that's irrespective of what you have unlocked/left to unlock

Two 11-day runs is atleast 100x worse than one 21-day run

[white egret]

on empty sim maybe

but im not so sure when playing normally

[tall mirage]

Nah even when playing normally

[gloomy jacinth]

I had good results and progress with sims running 5-10 days. I mean I got several research level very fast, faster for several levels than one before

And each time I was able to unlock some of the last updates objectives

So yeah maybe it's different when you play the game and continue to buy stuff in the main sim

[tall mirage]

But defo not worth letting a sim run past 21d

[gloomy jacinth]

But I also know it's probably not the fastest way I could progress, but it fits how I am playing

[gray tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/nautilus-nautilus-collision-sad-silly-nautilus-nation-gif-6601403667575938895

[frigid adder]

https://tenor.com/view/nautilus-floating-wistful-ocean-cephalopod-gif-1213098402100048377

[lean niche]

Y'all. THIS. Is driving me crazy. I just don't see it filling up in the next week at the rate things are going. Someone tell me to be patient, because I've got 1 OC knowledge burning a hole in my pocket.

[tall mirage]

It fills up by day 21

Like 21d 3h or smth

[white egret]

yeah about

[lean niche]

That's what people keep saying

[white egret]

cause its true

[lean niche]

I guess some exponents kick in at some point.

[white egret]

yeah they do

[lean niche]

Ooooookay.

Feel like a lonely teenager sitting by the phone over here.

[white egret]

what?

[lean niche]

Oh. Hell. Guess I should have specified landline. We don't have to do that anymore.

I'm old.

[white egret]

i just dont understand, good luck tho

[lean niche]

Used to sit around waiting for the boy/girl you liked to call.

[white egret]

oh ok i get it now

[amber canyon]

Be patient. 😁

It's gone up x100 so far, give it a bit more time and it'll go up the remaining x10.

[white egret]

got it!

gotta clean it up a bit then i can send it

[tall mirage]

Damn, so u figured out how many fills we can realistically complete nice

[white egret]

the problem i had was so stupid i was doing a+(b)*c instead of (a+b)*c

so i was off by like e2 everytime

[tall mirage]

Loll

[white egret]

actually its not accurate for the first 10 fills cause those are special cases i need to add that

(and also technically entrofills and ideafills use a slightly different formula but i dont think itll matter much)

[tall mirage]

lol

[slender yacht]

The single most annoying thing to me - once u completed event once, why the fk do i gotta keep wasting time watching the "new unlocked" bs as i re-do event....? so annoying as fk....

Once is enough.

3rd time having to see things like is what i mean.

How can i NOT see this after completing on-going event once? Its... Annoying.

[gray tapir]

Almost there!

[amber canyon]

You could start the event later? Then you waste less time. There's no benefit to multiple challenge levels tbh (except maybe the first one, for the extra 500 science. But only cos it's available).

[slender yacht]

It's there.... I log in, oh earned enough, it's completed!

i enjoy the game, might as well re-start it since it's there to be done.....

Just, how difficult is it to code to not show these "knowledge unlocked" after u've completed the 1st one?

😕

[amber canyon]

Ah, okay.

How difficult for the devs? Given the bugs we've seen, quite hard? And not worth interfering with unless it's bad (I assume they tried to do a change to the disease event, and that's what caused it to epically fail a few weeks ago).

[white egret]

its prob harder for the events since they get cycled every 4 days or so too, well maybe not actually but still

[amber canyon]

True. So whatever change can't (shouldn't) interfere with ongoing events.

[white egret]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/fb5gid0noa heres the fills graph, lot less going on since theres 1 function

im going to sleep have a gn

[wraith jolt]

🔥

[gloomy jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/maths-mathematics-functions-dancing-gif-5498965443155325063

[final kite]

how?

[rough axle]

blind

[final kite]

oh

[rocky owl]

it took me 3 days chill play to finish space 29, can we get some update till space 50? 😄 this is the best part of the game

[rough axle]

confirmed ot end at 30

[solar garden]

guys, is it normal that every rebirth my ideas and entropy per second deacrese

[rough axle]

youre doing something wrong

thats not abug

[solar garden]

Im upgrading things in reality engine

[polar viper]

like officially or just some alpha/beta rumors?

[torpid minnow]

do you have the time crystals?

[rough axle]

confirmed by the devs

[solar garden]

1 day ago i launched c2s and i was getting 4 sx of metabits, then after rebirth i gained the same prorgess as before and then i got only 20 qi

[polar viper]

rip

[dry cairn]

Im hitting the 21 day thing now. Let me know if there's any numbers or stats people want me to pay attention to.

[solar garden]

I was able to buy this thing just by using autoclicker for 5 sc, now i cant even get 1 qitg

[rough axle]

when did you last reboot

[rain rain]

how long were you in previous similation?

[polar viper]

first step: change to scientific mode

[tough igloo]

wrong

quintrigintillion is a peak number

[polar viper]

absurdtillion

[rain rain]

ah, right, the quintrigintillion

yes, I just copied it

[solar garden]

Now

[rough axle]

well of course your production is so low

[solar garden]

I know that i have to get the same amount of progress, im not dumb i bought everything

[rough axle]

the time chambers havent gone into effect yet

[solar garden]

What is that

[polar viper]

the irony at this text is the part "active gameplay"

[tough igloo]

time flux doesnt increase it either 😔

scammed me

[solar garden]

So, for no reason they added update that force you to play or you are gonna get in 1000 times less than before

[final kite]

what about unquintinbinquadrilliontillion

[tough igloo]

das not even a real number 😭

quintinbin

[rain rain]

I'd say it's the other way around

[final kite]

i know blud

[tough igloo]

im crine

[tough igloo]

calling me a diddyblud 😔

[solar garden]

why

[final kite]

when did i did i diddy i did you

[tough igloo]

i almost died trying to read this

[final kite]

i almost died al die most almoie diemost al die die mostal

[tough igloo]

almost research level 53

[polar viper]

now you can feel our pain reading your fantastillion numbers instead of the humble, precise and elegant 3.14e42

[tough igloo]

ew no

keep ur stinky e

[polar viper]

ew yes

[rain rain]

eW is not that high

[final kite]

i aint no aint no scientific scientifical scientistical aint no science no aint

[tough igloo]

i will send 10unvigintillion turtles to your location

[polar viper]

do it

[final kite]

science notaion is bd

[polar viper]

i dont have problems with turtles

[tough igloo]

guess how many zeros 10 unvigintillion has

[polar viper]

should we call your emergency contact?

[final kite]

my emertact congency

[polar viper]

see thats the problem. with the superior scientific notation we dont need to guess.
you are soo close.

[dry cairn]

Previously the best strategy was to constantly reset all day everyday. It was tiresome, so a month ago the update made it better to sit in the same simulation for a while.

[tough igloo]

its 67 noob

hhhh

[dry cairn]

Potentially overcorrected a bit.

[tough igloo]

exams in 2 days and im making 67 jokes

[polar viper]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

there is nothing funny about 67. just shows that u will fail your exams

[tough igloo]

i already passed 4 / 5

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-bow-cat-pink-cat-smile-cat-hello-gif-8393027935639589957

[polar viper]

gz still need to ignore you now because of brainrot

[tough igloo]

😔

[dry cairn]

@rough axle you've already done more than one 21 day run, right?

[rough axle]

corect

in fact i actually maxed the reality engine yesterday

[dry cairn]

Awesome

[final kite]

what the rate of xp to entropy/ideas

[rough axle]

roughly entropy/sec * idea/sec but not exactly

[dry cairn]

@rough axle you ever let it run for a couple days to try to gain a level or basically just an hour then start the next 21 day run?

[rough axle]

sometimes

[fluid delta]

basic math will tell you if the following level is obtainable, since RE tells you what you're at, what you need, and the rate of XP increase.

.. either that, or I am missing something in your question

[dry cairn]

Mostly curious how Arch got to 77

[fluid delta]

Arch is/was Beta user, that's my assumption as to how

[rough axle]

beta testing scirev2 update when it was still unbalenced

[polar viper]

why does the account gets transfered back to live from beta testers?
shouldnt be beta something independent. thats strange

[fluid delta]

yeah, that is strange, doesn't make sense to me

but.. I imagine it's bc CL doesn't think people will be competitive in this game

[polar viper]

i mean they did leaderboards...

what do they think will happen?

[rough axle]

if you partipate in beta your account is marked as beta and youre on a seperate leaderboard

[polar viper]

Ah i thought there is only the normal leaderboard and the cheater one. Interesting

Learning stuff every day

[rough axle]

Man I just looked at the beta leaderboard and it’s goofy

There’s some people who are level 76 and above me, while others are level 80 and below me

Tuning changes can do wild things

[static pagoda]

lol

[amber canyon]

#💬-cells-chat message

[tall mirage]

Lb is strictly based on XP

[rough axle]

I know

[sullen jolt]

WE GOT A SCAMMER HERE!!!

[frigid adder]

<@&535129309648781332>

Plssss assassinate ts scammer

[lusty cloud]

@swift heron you wanted to add me in cells. did you?

[primal stump]

!ban 1012832002501791927 crypto scammer

[bright otter]

Banned teo._.631 (Case #4198) (user notified with a direct message)

[primal stump]

👌

[frigid adder]

It's a hacked acc 😔

[lusty cloud]

damn

poor dude/girl

[frigid adder]

I hope they can get their acc back

[verbal forge]

Dang, I missed the fun.

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[frigid adder]

Sent them a friend rq, hopefully they can get their acc back so they can accept it

[verbal forge]

Now you probably gonna get flooded with dm scams lol.

[frigid adder]

Mercury got his acc back, why can't they?

[verbal forge]

Oh, I didn't know that. :/

[frigid adder]

Hello

[amber oracle]

Eyy

[tall mirage]

ggs

[tough igloo]

froggy

[rough axle]

Can anyone who hasn’t purchased the new beyond bundle tell me how much it costs? (Preferably in USD)

[amber oracle]

Do i reset now, or do i wait for one more knowledge bar for another 50 OC hmm

[gray tapir]

Hallo

[frigid adder]

30$ (I think)

[fluid delta]

It’s $20, and totally NOT worth it, IMO, despite the 300 DW and 2 week IP that comes with it.

[rough axle]

Thx

[frigid adder]

But it's Beyond

[rough axle]

I don’t even care about if it’s worth it or not

[fluid delta]

so?

[frigid adder]

Beyond is peak

[rough axle]

I just want the data to add to my spreadsheet

[fluid delta]

And actually, it might only be 1 week IP, it’s unclear

[frigid adder]

• it'll help with when they add ||Beyond Prestige||

[fluid delta]

Beyond is fun, sure, but it’s not like it takes super long, and so the price is just too much for what’s there. Sure, 2x stardust production is nice, but totally unneeded

[rough axle]

Ourple

[frigid adder]

You could say that for any Darwinium node

[fluid delta]

DW nodes in RE, you mean? Yes, those are useless too.. and the Logit ones even more so

[frigid adder]

You can even say abt Mesazoic Valley prestige

Beyonds the best

[fluid delta]

And I do, now that there’s little benefit to doing them. But we’re talking about paying $ for a benefit, and whether or not it’s worth it.

[rough axle]

Okay my spreadsheet should be updated for e29 now (photos and exact generator stats still pending)

[polar viper]

The beyond 20$ package is a rip off. 10$ and it would be in line with the starter cpu and the idea thing kinda, but 20$ is wild.

[coral crow]

I'm still trying to figure out how it's possible to clear the events without boosters... Feels like unless you're literally playing nonstop there just isn't enough time

[tough igloo]

just watch ur ads

[fluid delta]

Are you playing on Steam or Mobile/Tablet?

[coral crow]

Steam

[tough igloo]

e

why it gone

[tough igloo]

download game on ur phone

watch ads on there

then upload data so you can download on pc

[fluid delta]

Then you will either need to pay for Infinity Pass, or move your save to Phone/Table temporarily to watch ads for the 4x ad boost, then move it back

[coral crow]

without boosters

[fluid delta]

(or just play on Phone/Tablet)

[coral crow]

But I take your point

[fluid delta]

Without that 4x boost, it is doable, just much more tedious. But each time you get the 3 badges from the event, it will go faster next time the event comes back in the rotation and you do it

[coral crow]

Yeah, I know eventually it's doable because the badge multiplier makes up for it. Also it's on me for taking a couple year hiatus. Reality Reboot made things more fun.

[fluid delta]

nodnod

[coral crow]

Things got more expensive in the main simulation, still trying to get back to terraforming

[tough igloo]

woaaahhhhhhh

hills cloud is nothing like i remember it

thats cool

[little herald]

how'd you do it? just a lot of grinding?

[rough axle]

probably the 21 day strat

[amber oracle]

A lotta waiting for the knowledge multipliers to cap

[tall mirage]

How long will it take u for another fill

You should have pinged lol

@fluid delta I only got enough knowledge to buy GE 4x instead of 100x times like u

[fluid delta]

Don’t worry, it sounds like you will basically catch up before Mollusks! 🙂

[tall mirage]

Let's see, the low no.of badges defo working against me

[swift heron]

ye

[swift heron]

why is the game forcing it to use scientific notation

[white egret]

they haven't made it use normal notation for large enough numbers

[spring dome]

the devs probably didnt expect the numbers to go that high when they first made the game

[frigid adder]

It's only 10 Nosxg

[white egret]

they did it manually but im pretty sure theres an algorithm for it too

[polar viper]

wtf is this abomination

[frigid adder]

Googology is meh goat

I recognize it

[polar viper]

this isnt googol tho? 😄

[frigid adder]

Googology

The study of large numbers

[polar viper]

you mean "101 how to dodge the superior e-notation"

[frigid adder]

Every illion until googolplex can be named

Some of them will take eons to say but they still have a name

[frigid adder]

Novem***agintillion

(sorry if I seem a bit rude)

[weary flower]

guys what can i do to progress im hard stuck

[frigid adder]

You seem pretty close to the next lvl

Js wait, so the time chambers fill

[weary flower]

should I play more beyond

[frigid adder]

Yes imo it can help the beyond capacitors

[weary flower]

yea ig you right

okay okay thanks

[dry cairn]

The previous update probably did make the Martian City part of the game take longer.

[weary flower]

yea i got 1k of them before da update

[gray yew]

It did. Those prices were NOT that high before.

[lone bronze]

im still at martian settlement and ziggurat of ur bro 😭🙏

[coral crow]

Definitely weren't that way, I was able to easily get terraforming before the reality reboot

[frigid adder]

https://tenor.com/view/moai-walking-moai-james-smith-john-drumm-kinley-gif-23610859

[sullen jolt]

I got my 1st prestige in meso

[inner maple]

Is rank 71 the highest you can reach in the main simulation?

[white egret]

no there isnt really a limit (besides time), altho the highest without cheating is 74

[south escarp]

YES

HE WALKS

[gray tapir]

hi

my pfp

[frigid adder]

Ctrl c + Ctrl v

Jk

[desert pebble]

Ok, I got the Auriga constellation for the 6hrs red dwarves, do I put them instead of the white dwarves?

Both my series 1 and 2 cards are in a frankly bad state, so I need to work a lot for them

[gray tapir]

Updated my pfp, again

[coral crow]

Yes, but it'll be a long time before it gets terraformed again...

Good ol' pre-reboot progress

Joke's probably beaten to death, but we're missing the elephants and giant turtle

[sinful cairn]

we should lowkey get a fantasy augment pack they don’t boost your income js there for cosmetics would look cool

like like they’re like the gorilla or anteater or whatever but they’re js there for cosmetic effects

that would be cool

it would be nice for more cosmetics

[frigid adder]

Bigfoot kinda counts

[sinful cairn]

yeah but 1 is not enough

i kinda want them all in 1 so i don’t have to individually grind for them but imagine the price

[wraith jolt]

Is this a good time?

[spare crane]

what is the current strat for not buying anything? do you guys buy the cytoplasm in the end?

[thorn mauve]

Hi I’m pretty new at this game only about 2 hours playtime is 2 trillion a lot of entropy or nah

[white egret]

the extra plants stuff isnt in the game yet, the strat is dont buy anything for 21 days (untill both time crystals fill up) then buy everything then for max gains, but the strat should only be done when you run out of cheap things to buy (so like lvl 70ish?)

[white egret]

the games pretty large, near the end game you reach like 1*10^140 entropy i think

for 2 hours its probably good tho, everythings relative

[spare crane]

1 question tho. Did you use the "leave the game going overnight" strat? The 21 days do not add up or I am missing something

[white egret]

what do you mean by 21 days doesnt add up?

[grizzled lance]

I think that's better than my best 🙂

I have now passed 1500 fills on knowledge converter! And i'm about to reach lvl 70.

[spare crane]

we started on the similar date and i still have 4 days to 21 days 😐

[rocky owl]

So space ends around lvl 30, dino valey endless farm till 50 and reset, so the only way to progress is keep idling and getting more upgrades from base simulation? I'm sad that space won't get much in the future, I know that atractor is kind of end of our knowledge but we could get some prestige or something and getting more darker versions or something like that

[tough igloo]

yeah i remember you could get mars terraformed when you had just a few billion metabits

also no beyond requirements

[white egret]

I've graphed the fills system and they're like kinda exp!

[white egret]

here

[quasi ivy]

progress for 1 day into the event

[normal sentinel]

Guys why my progress so slow

[amber canyon]

Space will get more stuff in future, according to the Devs. Unless you know something I don't?

[rocky owl]

I don't know anything 😄 just logged in because I saw 29 update, done it all and I want more 😄