#๐ฌ-cells-chat
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nodnod.. well, "choices" I guess. Cells on Web like I said, isn't stable. If you do use it, make sure to do cross-platform saves within the Save Manager very often.
Alright
'Fun' ๐.
Btw it takes just over 3M mutagen to fully rank a Meso trait card (and 45k cards). You could prob get 2 done easy ... Or you could continue hoarding ๐.
Well I cracked and started a 'proper' game version on 42_68. Is too painful playing on the tablet. And doing that strat. Even though it makes me sigh.
cheers.. welcome to the "true" Live game ๐ FWIW, the "Empty Sim Strategy" is going very well for me so far, in case you choose to persue that approach yourself.
Yeah.I am doing Empty Sim. I feel dirty though ๐.
I just hit level 64 in RE finally
congrats!!
Once I finish Beyond, Iโm gonna go for roles
Roles?
For discord I think
Yuh
Ah. nods
I thought he meant roles for discord
Excitingly, the boiler turned on today no problems after having been turned off for a year. Am quite glad I have heating and hot water here.
(I've just relocated from one place to another)
... you've been living without those things for a year? ouch!!
Nah. Just didn't need to be in this place. Accidentally didn't visit to check up on it for a while.
No squatters either!
Benefit of the "buy nothing" strategy. There is no income so when you start up the game there is no pop-up for the primary sim asking if you want to watch an ad.
And, you can just watch 5 for the full 4x boost, when you're ready to do a reboot!
Feels like we are cousins...
Where do you even find that screen? ๐
Fallout makes for a great TTRPG setting, but using DnD as the game system would be way down on my list... so many better options IMHO
I am not dead
Glad to hear it ๐
I'm not. He's the only person I have blocked on here, bc I find it so annoying.. but that is a "me" problem, I know it. This channel isn't the place for it.
What determines what type of Paleontologist you are?
Ahhh... Looks like a Role, but I do not see where to get the various Progress ones
nodes
Hell yes
did i js lose my roles
accoridng to some ekhm time experiments, later entropy time chambers are bugged and never reach cap. Idk if that was reported or not
Is there an upgrade after battery rn?
nope. That's the last one
Has anyone gotten over 71 currently?
yes
Cool
@amber canyon @fluid delta Whatโs the QRD on the Empty Simulation Strategy? More efficient entropy/idea fills after hibernation phase while losing out on some RL progress? Just hit 73.
"More". Simply that, bc of a quirk of how Cells handles things. Not sure if it qualifies as a bug or an intended feature, but either way, as long as you have the Time-related nodes in the Reality Engine unlocked, it seems to be the way to go, based on what others have said, and what I've been seeing on testing. Congrats on 73 ๐
.. and, it's certainly less hassle than running an autoclicker 24/7 while keeping the 4x ad boost up
Any of the ones that have the "clock" logo on them. There's 8 on the knowledge side, and 6 on the metabits side.
You will want all of them.
Oh, and in primary, you want the first node or two, but NOT any generators. None.
The key bit here is that the time nodes in reality engine will increase as time advances.. when you finally reboot a week or whatever later, those increases will apply to the generators when you fill Primary out.. and not before.
Yeah, got all relevant RE upgrades. So just reset, and wait till all time chambers cap around 21d and then proceed as usual.
Seems simple enough. ๐
Yes. Those various ones cap earlier. Not sure what is optimal, 21d might be though.
And yes, it seems very simple ๐
Alright, Iโll give it a go. Thanks for the info.
yw! I hope to get to 75 with this strategy, and get all nodes on the Knowledge side in a couple weeks this way. We shall see ๐
The Chambers cap at 10 days but the Crystals cap at 21 days and those seem to be much more important for this method.
Good to know! Thanks!!
I'm already seeing about a 4x improvement, only a few days in, so that's encouraging
I thought this method only made your efficiency substantially better when you cash in all the fills?
Whatโs the other benefit Iโm not seeing?
Not sure of the actual details actually, but I think Gavel knows better here than I. I only found out that this was a thing a few days ago
By experimenting from a save and then restoring?
Yeah, I have a 2nd computer running Steam that I used (cross-platform save etc). My main is on iPad
I thought in primary you wanted to get a few of the early generators so that you can get the daily mutations.
I seem to be getting them anyway
(but I don't see the timer)
Same. Maybe it was just a 1 time thing to unlock.
I do have the node(s) in RE that give a small amount of base ideas+entropy on any new reboot, maybe that's why?
I guess I should do a reboot so I can do this new strategy also. I do wonder if waiting for max knowlege chambers is optimal or just waiting until idea chambers max.
I suggest getting all of the time nodes first. That's key I think.
I finally maxed all my idea chambers and for the first time I'm seeing the knowledge rate stop just going up.
But it's hard to tell because fills now are much more infrequent.
There are no fills so no improvement to see yet from my side. Feels insane to do this for up to 21 days.
Heh. Well.. you could test on another instance of Cells, like I do. To see what you'll get once you reboot?
How far into your run, are you, Gavel?
2.5 days
I waited longer until I got to 73 before starting this.
You have to buy Eukaryotic Cell in order to buy Cytoplasm which unlocks daily mutations. But if you do that you already own 4 generators and you start getting a ton of fills.
Ah, so we are close. I am at 3d 11h, and I was/am a little bit into 74 when I started this run.
Turns out you dont need Cytoplasm for the daily. So ive bought nothing and gotten zero fills
The worst part about this strategy is that you have to overcome muscle memory to not use nanobots or buy a generator by accident. ๐
heh totally. And especially not to click the wrong thing when uploading a save, and especially if you are testing on another instance of Cells!!
I just tested that in 3 simulation resets. Did your daily mutations just pop up some day you logged in or what? The instant I purchase Cytoplasm the daily mutation appears on screen.
Yeah, it will just popup every 24 hours even though theres no icon or whatever
I have zero generators. The dailies pop up, just as with Gavel.
Alright. Well, guess Iโm just harvesting Beyond missions and doing events the next 21 days.
Yup! That's the routine now ๐
I've started stalking too many other players so now I'm always ranked lower in the friend list than the actual event.
That one crypto scammer thought they would be safe in the international servers lol
lol ikr!
.. technically still is, I think the mods are having beers rn or smth, it's still up after 20 minutes!
Hi
Hi!
Hello
Gotta take adv of their oversight
mine is same as urs
Tbf, u won't really lose out if u buy a generator or 2
<@&535129309648781332> crypto scam
And the prior one in #๐จ-cells-art is still there too, after a couple hours at this point
mods are on vacation
so it seems
Now it's the Musk
guys
yes?
crypto scam in beta chat
it's been posted in lots of channels. The mods don't seem to be around tonight
17 channels got hit
are these people aware they're hacked
including Semblance
๐คท
both the cells-art and share-your-prestige one are still up
all of them are cause there's no mods online
It's in every channel I check
qUaRtEr wAkE uP
oh For Fโs sake.
probably a stolen account
most def, its the same images but it hit different channels
whats the chance they fell for it right now
It getting me curious
I will visit that Link to know what the duck in in those links
bad idea
never friend unless you are sure of them
yep, bad ideaโฆ well, maybe in a VM thatโs locked down it might be ok
I have few extra spare diacord accounts
.. and on a spare discord account
if it downloads to your computer then it doesnt matter which discord account you use
Hummm
yes, but I mean in the context of your account getting stolen
use a VM with different Discord account with no thing related to you
if your name is Sugar don't use an alt like Sugar Mini
Hah
make a new account
My Alt Discord is TheMagentaStrategist
i mean if its automated it doesnt really matter?
Which my name used to be ThePinkStrategist
that's different enough
Tbh im surprised that no matter how many sketchy and weird website and things (also in dark website) i have gone through
I never got any issue
The person that friended me had the Legacy Beta Tester role
Or well
Maybe the notifications role
whats their user?
shin12986
It was the tester role
And all this people get their account hacked
Even some of my friends US have got their account hacked
scammers on iscordd are a huge problem
I have the user, they been here since Dec 12, account since 2024, and has an actual profile description
whenever I get a random fr/message req I go to the relate server an ask them why
Iโm not 100% sure if theyโre a scammer or not
they have exactly 17 messages, same with the first scammer toay
well the had 17 before now it's 19
my y and d kes are starting to break
you just saw it
Wait they never sent a message once in here
they sent 2 prior to the images
I mean the one that friended me
penny_hzz
Makes sense
this also is patched in the beta so itll get patched soon
devs come back to work on the 12th but idk when the drop is planned
No updates on that yet
As i know they haven't yet finished models of all New stuff in E29
My guess would be around end of January or in February
id say its considered late game
i think the highest levels people have (legit) are around 74-75?
it gets way harder to level past 70 tho
the req is almost exponential
so the distance from like 60 to 70 is shorter than 71 to 75
also cause you run out of upgrades around there
js wait for the updates gng ๐ฅ
lol
its an idle game its in the name
are you trying to like, prove im wrong or sm
peak, keep it up
i mean its not really that well defined?
i mean i consider when idea takes over entropy to be near late game
(or knowledge i should say)
oh what, a division is only useful if it has meaning
It should be count high up i think
I'm at 2501
Even though i have completed each events only once
Yes it has meaning
666 is special division
+1.01x eff for some stats per badge
But aren't division only for events as i think?
is this still part of the bit or do you not understand my use of the word division
I guess I didn't ๐
lol dw
i mean a division like a divider between things
like "early game" "mid game" "late game" etc
Leaderboard is functionally broken I think. When I looked at it recently, it didnโt make a lot of sense
im pretty sure it works well enough
nah too many cheaters at the higher ranks
true, only if they dont get cheater marked tho
yes most definitely i am fuming and such and so on
im unsure how many people cheat and dont get cheater marked, but i think the system they use is simple enough to be bypassed
not what i mean by cheating
like by editing your save or downloading cheat mods etc
most people just change their clock time tho, which is like stupid easy to verify as cheated or not
uh huh
raises an eyebrow
That.. is supposed to impress us?
not true actually, it's hard to track, since it's an offline game
they can estimate, but they cant be sure
unless ig you have a clock that it needs to check with on a computer in lunch hq that verifies your time matches up within 24 hoursโฆ
they cant know your time zone
the can use unix
im talking about for online play
ofc if they cheat offline then go back online itd have to be detected on your computer (which is harder)
yeah, but once you go back online, it doesnt know how long you were offline for
exactly
that's the issue
i mean theres sorry i jsut hit a key bind and ctrl+shift+a closes and opens all your discord channels?
anyway there are still some methods
yeah
they wouldnt be as robust as a server check but still
most of them are probably implemented
robustโฆ hmm, im thinking i like that nameโฆ
-# the lore behind my name actually has nothing to do with the word robust ironically
WAIT THEY DID LMAO
robot bust uhuh
i never noticed
robot yes, i spammed a whole bunch of endings and kinda liked this one
ic
i was much younger
but tbf id do the same today
oh huh
yeah i had no idea what tesco was at the time
lmao i was about to ask
but i saw a minecraft user with the name tesco and thought it sounded cool
fair
(my minecraft user is also tescoo)
nice
its a british shop right?
it is
grocery chain or something
one of the largest
i finished tng yesterday (its leaving netflix tmmr)
ah gn
or probably gm for you
Cu
copper?!
almost dinner but close
oh so its leaving netflix in two days for u
wait, dinner as in lunch or supper
6pm the 7th
Like in breakfast. And now, I'm off to work
what time zone are you in!??
cst
what day?
wait
im aussie
right
that's why
youre in north america?
anw gn
canada
ah right
still right
ok yeah so im like almost a day ahead of you
yep
have a gn tho
24-7 hours
oh its 1 am there lmao
may i as what happens on level 50 on mesozoic valley
yeah, ||at level 50 theres a rebirth mechanic afaik it isnt too good tho||
i ama at level 50 just want to know ||what resets||
||basically all stats relating to meso i think this includes mutagen and cards aswell but i havent reached it yet||
someone whos reached level 50 could help more prob
ok read the wiki instead
fair
||we keep rare and epic cards and mutagen||
ok ic
||also you get an epic card which speeds up ALL dinos||
||hell yeah||
||there are 10 prestiges, p0r1-50, p1r1-50, so on, meaning there are 550 total extinctions||
lvl 74. rank 464
but really, Idc about the rank, itโs clearly messed up, with higher levels with worse rank and lower levels with higher rank, sometimes.
whats your current level & xp?
doing some quick bad math you are roughly more than e40 away!, which is roughly the distance from lvl 60 to lvl 70 altho itll take longer due to less unique upgrades and so on
why does it say beta if youre on 42_68?
why are you on the beta leaderboard
nope
only those who signed up for the beta would be on the beta leaderboard
i guess one of two
maybe they are working on leaderboard as i think
it was removed and has been re-added recently
or they have pushed same update for both beta and public and he hasn't updated after that update
youd think theyd change the version number tho?
could you take a screenshot of your profile? like from the first screen
no it doesnt, im on steam tho
yeah you ahve the beta tag
did you in the past sign up for the beta?
must of never swapped away from the profile
yes because you are on the beta leaderboard
theres 3 leaderboards
actualy beta might be merged with normal i cant remember
the 3 leaderboards are normal, beta, and cheater marked
it was used to be separate for beta tester and public in past
but dont know about now days
we might actually be able to tell if we're on the same leaderboard using some math
& what xp
this is where i am rn (notice no beta tag)
we can fit some points to a curve and see if you match up
its part of your save im pretty sure but i think there is a way
In Non beta
youre on the cheater leaderboard this isnt gonna help
and at 2565 in beta
is your beta profile cheater marked?
red text for the level means your on the cheater leaderboard
i have an alt on the cheater board and it has the same red text
both normal and beta people can be on the cheater board btw
well anyone who gets marked a cheater, whether people who get marked cheaters are actually cheaters is up to how you think CL handles it
might be from the currency
well im guessing really i cant know for certain
but yeah if on the leaderboard your level text is red it means youve been marked a cheater
well there isnt the red question mark in main screen
but i will test it
div 666?
might be a shadow ban instead? im unsure of how all their internal stuff works
also refering to sepheria's level and rank you are most likely on the cheater leader board
they were level 74 rank ~400
To appear in a Caldruki's video you need to appear in a Caldruki's video first
hey can you send your leaderboard?
reference to the carl sagan quote "to bake an apple pie from scratch you must first invent the universe"
i know about the 666
but i didnt know this red text also related cheating
ive only seen it in that context
i mean are you in div 666
also im pretty sure their div 666 code is broken sometimes
like i think 1000 playercap overrides the div 666 thing
No
beta leaderboard dang
This sentence is true
yeah
i don't deny me being in chester category (because all things i have done in this 7 years and still do๐
)
i just didn't knew about the this red text thingy...
If you want to get spoiled go to #๐ฌ-beta-chat
why do you want to cheat lol
this is so funny ๐ญ
Stop trying to be CTSmaniac tellect
this guy is guccied down to the socks but asked for 3 dollars
you can only really datamine on the steam one cause of computers and such
you could transfer any of those saves over to mobile tho
i just need to finish thing before other for a reason
and im not much into playing fair after this long
unless theres need like testing or things
nope
but fun fact my monthly salary is 134$๐
what job could that possibly be
Cheating/data mining is against the rules
the weakest defence but true
cheating ruins the fun in a single player game, and makes it worse for everyone else in a multiplayer game, but i have a sneaking suspicion the guy who says theyr gonna pay 500 dollars for a video game might be joking
"nothing gets by you" etc etc
well i live in india
and say exactly im working at tour company currently (trainee tbh)
ive got a 3060 id love that 4070
ah i see that makes sense
whatt indias got a lower (is it buying power? cost of living? something) so being payed less of a diff currency is normal
lol'd
im not interested in being warned for talking about cheating but im sure someone else would love to take you up on the offer
also i think cheating is stupid and i wouldnt help a person do it
i mean yeah? i dont tho for the aforementioned reasons
Knock on a door and ask for the devil, he might just respond
its unreal you think a person would fall for this
altho by interacting im falling for it
Prob best discuss in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/545344551095894028 . Or better yet, not on the game's official Discord.
sell it on ebay dude
gpus are way more expensive now you could get good money for it
prolly
this is so entertaining icl
I take it you have no idea how to use your computer then.
No
i mean really this person cant be older than 14
Unsure. But anyway. You're right, it is quite funny.
Anyway, work.
have fun! ive got my first interview on the 10th
awww
how much si a 4070 actually
i havent looked at gpus in a while im assuming thats mid to high end?
Btw. Trading / selling on here is a good way to get perma-banned.
No one is telling you
Learn how to use your computer.
its on steam for free!!
You can't cheat on mobile
well something something apks and what not but theres easier and less malwareable methods
auto clickers are allowed yeah
yeah?
wait sorry is your name the school you go to?
Ducking back in. It is interesting about the 3 leaderboards: Wonder how long it takes to get sent permanently to the cheater leaderboard once you cheat in the normal/beta leaderboards.
No
ive seen conflicting answers on what constitutes a cheater mark but i just assume its server side so we cant really know (without some bruteforce checking at least)
do your parents know youre giving away the computer parts they bought for you?
I'm wondering if this is considered self promotion
would a brand be needed to promote? or just any sale at all
Still against the rules btw
thats true its still against the rules
i mean no mods are online cause they love vacations or sm
nice
The mods will decide when they see your recent posts.
holy loling
dude theres also a chance nothing happens just keep cool
i can hear you smiling bruh ๐ญ
Wym "or worse" blawg the mods aren't gonna track you down๐ญ
they got a sniper on him rn
They're putting you in division 666 at worst
cheating would also put you in div 666?
You'll still be able to play the game dawg
there is no end game here
first turn off caps lock
for the events, it means you get placed with the cheaters
A division in exploration hub full of cheaters
im laughing irl this is s ogood
You'll not get above 5 logits at worst
And they mods might strip him of his roles.
not the roles! what would a person be without their roles!
if you are so scared just make a backup of your save
They're gonna turn you into spiced beef and put you as a trophy on they're wall
theyre gonna turn you into an event
You're on a t-shirt
your name will ring out for generations of this server
The reason they aren't saying anything is because they're actually on a collision course with your house rn
You're gonna get turned into a node that costs 50 logits and boosts simulation speed by 1.7
its contraband, 30 to life depending on the jury
if the glove fits
then i think i will get 5 star gta style raid on my home๐
with helis and tanks
Venezuela 2: electric boogaloo
theyv got every branch of the govt looking for you
With nukes
Worth it for the art you make ๐
You're in the eye of the storm
all world governments are looking for you
No amount of bargaining will save you
Gonna have to run to another planet dude.
Funny that you mentioned it, they actually have an entire squad of trained soldiers there
i doubt even dialing 1-999-5299-3787 will work for me
The people are rioting due to how bad of a crime you committed
eggs inc is fire btw
You're never gonna be able to get a job
That's because they're the sort of people that enjoy the hunt. Once they catch you, you're just dead. Enjoy running for the rest of your life.
RB, RB, B, RT, Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left
done
Run to antarctica
op misspelt! didnt work
wanted lvl raised to 100
They're launching missiles rn
They js nuked my nearest city bc of you...
Out of my hands. Maybe they'll get a forced windows update. Will give you a few more minutes.
Yes
They got the "lawnmower" on you
๐ญ bro's defo in India rn
Damn I didn't know we had a stoner in the chat
missed it
I guess a broken phone sends no messages.
I hope they enjoy their off-grid life on a distant planet / Antarctica. Being hunted by our very scary mods and the World Government.
They are clearly living in the messier galaxy rn
Ig that settles that
i undrestand what you mean but you see, narwhal node is live but i have to buy it again, same as observatory
Why does cells chat kinda have a lobotomy today ๐
๐ ๐ฅ
lowkenuinely
๐
๐
What is even happening in this server I just joined ๐ญ
Someone asked how to get cheats, so we gaslight them that everyone was out to get them
whats the chance it was actually a kid who thought it was happening
Huh. It's the same thing on this restart.
itd be strange if it is just hardcoded to always have an hour showing
Off by 1 error? Maybe the clock for the reality engine says something like Show hours if hours > 1 instead of >= 1
that multiplier also looks weird
Hlo everyone
actually calculating the number its correct for 1 hour 13m
what do the other time chambers say?
The same time as that one.
I should see what happens in the engine when the sim passes the 2 hour mark
Hello
Can I ask you something about game?
What?
๐ญ It's time chamber how is it weird
Are you able to receive notifications
i misscalculated in my head its correct
For exploration events I think
Nothing else?
I don't think
Why not?
you can get like roles for beta pings and stuff
bro got Time chamber formula in his head
true and real
0.252 per hour
cause sometimes it doesnt show up
or something :)
The only reason why I have the neutrino relic is because I got neutrino expansion before they added new upgrades and made it 50 quadrillion metabits
nope, neutrino relic is also for those who got every upgrade except neutrino expansion
ok im doing black magic and i dont see why itd make it an hour plus your current time
volbla what version are you on
volba on 43_23
ong
he came from the future to warn us
at what point is it better to stay in your simulation and idle and at what point it better to just reset it continously for the cheap fast metabit and knowledge?
42_68
i think its just true in general
Depends on your progression and how many RE nodes u have left
to spam reset
The true idling method is for those who are left with the only meaningful upgrade known as GE
Tbf it would work at every stage
*at every stage where you have KTC unlocked ๐
ackchually
yea corrected myself before u typed
im at like lvl 27 atm, i guess the idea bit will boost quite fast after i reach lvl 28
if u restart the game does it fix itself?
my progress in knowledge branch just so darn low that idk whether or not to wait lel
๐ Yea idk what to say about that, I started at lvl 50-52
u start the game at lvl 50-52? wait how...?
prob means RR
I was playing the game before november update
He joined like 2 days ago, I don't think using abbreviations would benefit
so i just started after like a real big update that change the game fundamentally eh?
true
indeez u did
lol wow
yeah the update reality reboot came out nov 19 on steam
but version 42_68 (current version that updated how the reality engine worked) come out on the 18th of dec
Atleast you can progress very quickly as you have a lot of
to get from Mesozoic valley and beyond
yeah the gacha sometimes give me cube which gud
managed to reach lambda multiplier after 2 days
what level are you currently?
27
Yea no way beyond coming out on 18-19 Jan then lol
best case would be last couple days of jan
best case we get a finished product tho lol
there gonna be like another big big update coming soon?
maybe feb
not super big, adding another level to a side simulation
youve unlocked the space area right
Lmaoo, I mean they've had E29 and E30 in pipeline for a long time, the generators and constellations haven't changed
Nah small update
i mean they swapped it for RR prolly
and sci 2
mind if ya enlightent me wut RR
Yea
i meant scientific revolution
which is the latest update
shorthand is sci rev i think?
beyond is cool ngl, really like the animation but it really a pain to farm in there
It's supposed to be slow as there's only 28 episodes of it
looking back on steam they had E27 on nov 2024, 2 explores, E28 on feb 2025 another explore in apr then not much till the first RR alpha on sep 20
Mesozoic valley in comparison would be way quicker to progress, it has 550 episodes after all (Original 50 + 500 due to prestiges)
Well I meant more like E29-30 being in alpha for a long time
Also the scrapped E31
oh no yeah i mean they prob swapped over in like april to work on RR so they didnt do more eps
Yea no brainer dat
im guessing update order will be like E29, mollusks and then split between E30 or more on the main sim
Yup, then after releasing E30 they gotta work on Beyond Prestige and even tell us what that's gonna be like
i do wish there was more verticality to the system
wonder will there be any easter egg on E33 lol
sadly they scrapped all the post E30 stuff
some of it was interesting but it makes sense to end where it does
They could have gone multiversal and created entirely fictional stuff also
i mean
simulate fictional evolution doesnt sound like a gud idea with wut the core direction of the game cookning rn
yeah i think it makes sense to do realistic stuff for those things
Issue is no one wants a prestige situation like meso for beyond
the main sim up to a point is also realistic
And it's prolly not gonna happen, but we got no details so....
i mean, if it just reset, x2, stuff, yeah it boring
yea, you have to do that 10 times with meso
they could maybe do a reailty engine system for beyond? but itd be kinda out of place
Imagine we gonna see a 40k Simulation coming soon
or imagine if: reality engine engine
Reality Engine Squared
Hopefully gonna reach lvl 28 today
just wanna boost the progess in knowledge cuz seeing it go so slow irritate me although this idle game lmao
hey youre doing the 21 day strat right?
Indeez
Yea lol, only thing u can do is wait
im looking at it now and i dont think itll actually boost as thought
it doesnt boost your bit gain, it just boosts your entropy or ideas
if anything its shooting yourself in the foot?
So you didn't see we've already verified it?
oh can u link
And it does boost, it boosts your time crystals
oh time crystals
i keep thinking of the wrong thing
youv verifed its better than spam or normal?
After 21 there's no point waiting as your Time crystals are maxed
your progression will fall to a crawl and become linear
i mean for the amount of work put in, it is better
No I mean waiting till day 22 or longer will be useless as you're not increasing your efficiency in any way whatsoever
You alr read of how a fill will be 1e6 more efficient, aka let's say fill 1500 gives you 5e22 knowledge, but with TC maxed it will give u 5e28
oh no i mean the 21 day strat compared to anything else
its boringness is what im annoyed at
Ughh, the lack of punctuations made me read the sentence differently
I read it as "for the amt of work, it better work" or smth like that
hold on imma do some "magic" and compare the formula
.... yea not denying that, well I ain't planning to repeat it for sure
Just wanna get GE and other metabit nodes
ig the next calculation would be at what level should you do 21 strat
like to get all the available upgrades
At all levels it's the best option tbf
Ok, i made a bug report with a screen recording https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1458436848509784095
oh so the problem is the RE's clock
ok so the time crystal 1 is the exact same for both entro and idea
yeah
Whats ur favorite Season II Beyond episode?
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Does anyone else think that there should be a Mesozoic valley update
Nope. Let it die. Don't force new players to go through 10 prestiges to get to whatever would be new.
If i were to add something it would be maybe some new mechanic that unlocks prestige one and new logits stuff
Adding a thing every prestige is too meh
But most of people probably put down meso a lot after hitting prestige 1 so uh yeah
userbenchmark is terrible, but the 4070 is a way more performant card than the 4070, it is true
I enjoyed it alright when i first unlocked it.
Donโt get a 4070 or any GPU that has less than 16GB of VRAM.. unless you are only at 1080p, and even then, 12GB is a minimum
Ok, that was a lot to wade through since last night, and most of it related to theโฆ. kid? A bit over-the-top dramatic, to be sure
What if they keep the prestige, then the rank required to prestige would just change
they wipe out all 10 prestiges or keep it as optional content for the new meso content they add?
Like after rank 50 without any prestiges, you can move to the new content, but you can still choose to go through 10 prestiges to get 
It's just that there are a ton of unique dinosaurs, archasaurs, thereapsides, and mamals from these times
There could be a tundra regen with Nanuquasaurs, Pachyrinoasaurus, Utyrannis, and more artic creatures
yeah these numbers dont make sense
like are we using a decimal comma or decimal point
ah looking at screenshots of other people makes me think this is a localization issue or something
i think some of the new upgrades arent translated correctly
though i dont understand why the point/comma would be switched anyways when ive switched the game to english
Mine isnโt showing like yours, and offhand I donโt think I have barometer either.. are you playing beta?
(I can check in a bit about barometer, I canโt atm)
Barometer is also in the ofifcial game
it's a decimal
Idk why it's showing , for you, it must have changed formats only for that
@amber canyon I feel like Telescope might be the easiest event...
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in here too huh
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comma because comma as the decimal divider is standard where i live i assume
sighs
Windows or PC issue? Cells on Steam has never crashed for me.
not once for me either
when loading mezo it has crashed for me before, on android tho
and that was like... 2 years ago or sumn
what are these?
future updates ๐
pretty sure I am at 1080p
yeah its in HD
Ah, you're playing on a TV! Unusual but by no means unheard of for a PC.
And yes, that's 1080p. "HD" is a TV term, not really a computer term
HD is 1080p afaik
HD is 1080 indeed
Yeah, but who can keep all the acronyms straight? Like.. do I remember if HD is 1080p or actually DVD res which is 720p?
Anyway, 1080p is direct.
old HD was 720p to sepheria's note
now HD is loosely used to describe 2k+
(and 1080p is "standard def" lol)
yeah, which makes terms like "HD" basically useless
precisely
awesome
anything >1080P is HD, but 1080 is the modern minimum resolution to be considered HD
yeah its my dads old moniter
But like I basically said, if you want to be unambiguous there, 1080p, 1440p, 4K etc.. that's what you want to state
fair
That day was pretty far back.. like... 1990s
heh
im toying with changing from my 2x2k 32" monitors to a single 49", or even a 57" ultrawide
5120x1440
You could.. but why not go 5120x2160?
Have you checked out the CES 2026 coverage?
at a certain point does it really matter
Yes. Yes it does. ๐
its like the frame rate argument
well, for video editing, it's very useful as i get a much wider view of a video timeline
Fair
wider uninterrupted view
thats true, but how many more pixels is what im talking about really
same with music production, etc
A lot, depending
wasnt there a study that said people couldnt tell the difference past 8k in movies? i might be misremembering
You could go 5K for that... that way you could edit a 4K vid + have room for all the related controls
the human eyes can only recognize the granularity to a certain degree
8k is essentially a novelty specification
As always, exact details matter
I agree, sortof. Like, 4K isn't completely sharp to my eyes, on a 32" monitor.
it's like the difference between a car with 800 horsepower and a car with 1200 horsepower, and you only drive your car in new york city
(I run at 32" 4K IPS)
higher resolution is more beneifical on smaller screens because you sit closer to them, which lets your eyes actually detect them
Depends on what you are comparing.. like, go kart engine will be a lot less useful than a modern car engine, if you need to do road trips ๐
8k on a 65" television in the living room is...well, no different than 4k
especially considering you're sitting ~9+ feet away
Well sure. On the other hand, 8K in VR lenses will probably be what you need for 100% clarity
^
notice how close the screens are to your eyes though
like i said before
small screens + close to your eyes + higher resolution = best experience
Exactly. Like I said, "details matter" ๐
ok found the guy who did the study, and the calculator related to the study
Anyway, getting back to the original question (kindof).. Tescoo, what system are you running? Maybe a 1080p TV is something you might choose to upgrade for a much better gaming experience?
(and how far away do you sit from that TV?)
As to GPU, a 5070 Ti is probably optimal rn, in terms of price-performance + DLSS support
i sit a bit more than 2 rulers away
there's a pro counter strike 2 player thats known for literally having his face in the screen
so like ~70cm?
I know I'm a chat noob, but y'all probably won't hear much from me for a few days. Had oral surgery yesterday, and am on a Vicodin vacation.
Hmmm... and how important is that large screen view to you? Bc at 70cm, that would be taking up a lot of view.. a good thing, for those that like that
And it's a 60hz screen ofc..
Oh? That's not bad then..
120hz is the new "minimum" baseline nowadays
again frame rate argument
hz and framerate play hand in hand
yeah thats why i said that
Yeah.. thinking on it, if you're generally comfy with it, then probably stay with your current screen for the time being. You could get a lot sharper (4K), but ofc that's money. What CPU do you have?
So, pretty weak by modern standards.. nodnod.. now is a lousy time to upgrade anyway bc RAMapocalypse
yeah lol
But mid-2027 should be awesome, with Zen 6/Intel Nova Lake out, Nvidia 6000-series as well
And AI bubble popped probably too
rather buy old stuff then tho
Nah.. I mean you could, but we should see a hefty jump in performance next gen, and upcoming consoles will be Zen 6 based as well
im still unemployed and dont see alot of money in the future
Ah, gotcha. You can only do what you can do, ofc. Sorry to hear that.
Oh I see! Well, once you're employed, you'll have disposable income? You are not doing Uni then?
no i am, diploma of engineering into a full degree
Ah ok.. well, perhaps it's best to have a computer that's not very good, gaming won't be a distraction ๐
lol
You can fix that once you have your degree and are in the workforce
dont play many games that are intensive anyway
The 8700k would make that problematic anyway
(32gb)
I used an Intel 3570K for the longest time. It didn't feel slow, but once I started playing certain games and then upgraded, I could see just how much improvement there was in a modern architecture
32GB isn't going to be a limit for most games, but I assume you are talking engineering-related stuff?
yeah, and i love opening tabs
i mean i have a laptop but that needs an upgrade aswell
Part of the problem is that the higher capacity DIMMs are only DDR5, and.. well... you could have cheaply solved it 3 months ago (you would have had to upgrade your CPU then), but now.. well...
all good :)
oh i have like 4 desmos graphs open that cant be good
Heh .. yeah, I hear ya. One hopes you are using Ublock Origin + NoScript?
+1gb
whats noscript?
It's a script blocker. You are using a FF fork, it works great on FF (and therefore I assume Waterfox as well). Been using it for years. Works great.
does this just block all javascript unless otherwise allowed
(and I use portable firefox, so even from Windows install to windows install, it keeps all the extensions and their related data intact... that applies to what I've whitelisted and blacklisted with NoScript)
Yes
that seems like a pain
Though I wouldn't say "just".
It's not, not really. You learn pretty quick what's problematic and what isn't, and once you tell NoScript, it knows too.
Like.. no problem watching Youtube vids without ads, for instance.
It could be that you might reduce some of that memory usage? Depending on what's running? Though you are already seeing some slowdown bc Windows 11
Oh are you? Good.
It looks a bit different than mine. Probably you have some graphics stuff turned on that I don't?
what does yout task manager look like?
Yeah.. perhaps that's bc 1080p, I'm at 4K (125% scaling)
That's probably the difference (and bc of how ClearText operates)
What happend @fluid delta with the computer @white egret
Huh? Nothing happened
what does this mean
Yours is crashed @white egret
I mean
that's your computer??
No
are these song lyrics
Thatโs my mommyโs computer
that's awesome
what's ctm
That is a place at Flat Rock Road in Columbus GA
USA?
Yes
Ok
Hello
It's the 2nd quickest for me. Just behind Deep. Will take me about 2h30m to do this time (assuming I get normal ads).
... why would you break your phone?
... you can't be that stupid, that you would destroy your phone bc of that
.... stop messing with us, it's not funny
That whole bit I had to wade through this morning (NA time) was over the top ridiculous
Btw, re empty sim, can confirm that in android production version (42_68) you get the daily rewards without needing any generators. (And it also doesn't show as active).
if you smashed your phone, it's your own fault. Are you mentally ill? You seem either that or very young. I'm not sure which. Could be both, ofc. Or the 3rd option, which is you are messing with all of us, bc dark triad personality or whatever
how's it hanging
who the hell do somebody break their phone over the message
noone, that's who.
Why not just add all four frogs?!?
I wanted hypnotoad, but noooooo! ๐
maybe bad balance or overpopulation? or just for the community engagement
Gotcha
I'm guessing tho
how do you get the rewards tho?
The collect calendar just appears when you open the game.
oh lol
Yep! That is how it is for me as well (iPad)
they might patch it but it's good for now
oh did I send the crystal graph?
it's exp+lin
Well. Not sure it's good. But it's a thing.
Better than it not being a thing, for sure ๐
a thing I have been thinking about is that how many of the gains from 21 days are gonna be made from also just having the sim running normally
I imagine it'll be changed on the next update. I hope it will be.
you're awesome NJIT
rolls eyes.. c'mon, the joke has gone on long enough. Give it a rest. Please?
Yeah, not sure. I don't think we accumulate any XP in this mode, but we will when it's actively running.
Wonder how it will be fixed ๐ค.
like if your idea chambers go up at roughly the same rate as your crystals then wouldn't a majority of the production happen In the last dayish anyway
xp is the product of your lifetime entropy and ideas
you'd get a big boost of xp only from chamber gains
this is q hidden stat I'm pretty sure but if your current sim has the largest gains you can estimate
True that you don't get XP. But that doesn't seem a massive issue, given the gains to RE nodes. We're doing this for the first/second time (ish). The more we do it, the more OP our REs get, compared to our primary sims. And pretty easy to get to the end of the primary sim after an update anyway.
Fair. I kindof expect after my current empty Sim run to get all the nodes, at which point, I would reboot, buy and then silent I guess to get up to the previous point, then go active? I think that makes sense?
I might try some napkin math to see how much of the gain is from like the last day or so
Makes sense. But going active isn't necessary - you're not unlocking more primary. But even those who are unlocking primary will find it a lot quicker with a strong RE.
It's 4 a.m, but sure why not
But you need to be active (by that I mean a normal idle run with autoclicker) to accumulate XP over time, yeah?
I am not dead
Shudder. I rarely see that time.
Thank god
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/rgoetzhi1a in case y'all wanna look (the exact day is like 21.13)
Lowkey imagine they add a stock market to CTS
And that's the Time Crystals?
yep! entro and idea use the same formula
heh. You don't like RL going up?
Holy shit why is British retail chain Tesco in here?
this is cinema
good to hear! Bookmarked! ๐
What in the world is a Desmos and a Tesco
Well a normal run, yeah. Autoclicker not necessary. But def buying some generators at some point. But to progress, fewer and for shorter time after Empty Sim.
desmos is a graphing calculator, tesco is a British shop I think
Lol. I meant 4am.
Lowkey I haven't seen an ad on my computer since the beginning of 2025
I'm heading back to bed
oh, lol
sleep well!!
I woke up because my cat started going ham because her food bowl was empty (I wonder who ate it all)
Have fun, people!
Def a UK shop. I am eating some of their cheese right now.
... You? The cat?
Okay yeah I ate it all... sorry
I'm eating all the cheese. I imagine cat food is less tasty. Not gonna check.
If it's typically 24 months matured, I wonder how long it's been matured otherwise
๐ค Ah makes sense
...who the hell broke their phone just now
the funniest person in this server
I know it doesn't last long in my fridge.
Also, cracker crumbs in bed are a pain. I should have organised setting stuff up better.
I'm gonna be honest, even tho the joke wasn't funny, I was regrettably like that 3 years ago
Noone ofc. Or if he did, he's got problems that we're not qualified to address.. but time might, if he's really young and gullible
Love me some leftover cracker crumbs for my midnight snack!
I find it funny people are taking it seriously
bait on levels unheard of
Heh.. you gotta know that there's people like that though, that would indeed do what he said he did.
u still studying all 3 languages mentioned in bio?
ok but you did see that when he said his phone was broken, his discord showed he was on his phone?
Taking a break because it's the holiday season, I can't afford to lose my leaderboard ranking hehe
I did not notice that. Thanks ๐ ... ok, that narrows things down a bit. Likely troll seems like the best candidate?
I found it funny, but also agree it should really have been in general. I tend to get off topic here though so not gonna throw stones from my glass house.
I'm unknowing, what's cn?
nah u gotta learn all 3 so that u can TL manhwas for me
mandarin
No offense, but with the entire "!!!" and stuff, I'm 99% confident that he's 100% a troll
not zh?
Umm Idts
Cartoon Network
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No offense taken. He could also be really young.. and based on a photo maybe 12 hours ago, he is young, though I can't tell if he's that young
Canadian?
Not exactly, I suppose
oh yeah it's def a troll that's why it's funny
fake french they call it
Canadians exist..? /j
WE??? OUI???? /j
Indeed!
Canadians exist with internet. That's the surprising thing.
I used to learn Japanese but I haven't in like a year or so, so I don't consider myself able to speak it
lol.. I had Broadband DSL back in 2000.. it's most Americans who are behind the times!
wanikani still sending me emails
they suck for learning btw it's so slow
I plan on studying abroad, specifically in Japan, but the language doesn't strike me as... I don't know, fun? (No offense)
I'd say it's cool
Loll, were u planning on giving test?
I studied Chinese and Korean because of the media I consume daily
eh back then maybe
the grammar is cool
verb system is cool
๐ญ u mean xianxias and manhwas or
Thankfully no
๐ yea mandarin tho..... is F'ed
Well, both countries have large areas of nothingness (by which I mean sparsely populated by humans).
Idk how u even learning that
I just like K-pop and Kung Fu Hustle
Ah the movies
Mandarin is surprisingly easier than Japanese
mandarin is cool asf
Goated language
more memorization I meant
Except that nearly all of Canada's population is snuggled up near the US border
ipa is the best tool for this honestly
learning radicals isnt too hard
could be, never tried
for mandarin? ehh
The only issue I have with leaning Japanese is that I don't understand the goddamn grammar structure
Goats speak Mandarin? Shocking! Shocking I tell you!!!!!!!! ๐
ipa isnt necessarily the best
I didn't find Mandarin as hard as I expected. It's quite logical (at least to the point I learnt it).