💬-cells-chat

[fluid delta]

Heya! Things are ok!

[amber canyon]

It's cold and dark here. Not my coffee though.

<@&535129309648781332> Can this comment be pinned? #💬-cells-chat message

[fluid delta]

heh

[amber canyon]

☕

[shrewd rampart]

This is an extremely helpful guide! We appreciate your help.

I'm almost done with my exams!

[warm lodge]

Ty. I also posted it on Reddit and Steam. If the devs like it maybe they can pin it somewhere so it does not get snowed under the chat. I just got frustrated by all the players who lose their game for various reasons and forgot to use the one feature that could save them from this fate.

[shrewd rampart]

That reminds me, I haven't saved my progress in a week or so.

@amber canyon I'm tired of waiting :(

[fluid delta]

Why not?

[shrewd rampart]

I forgot, lol

Semblance wants me to buy Quark Expansion (5E20) when I can't even make 1E17 per reset...

Thank you, Semblance

Also, I've been thinking about purchasing DW again..

Is 900 DW gonna be useful? Or should I just wait patiently since I can get around 8-12 DW daily from the DW Synthesizer?

[fluid delta]

Well yeah, it’s going to take a while. And maybe you need more of the tree done first. If you are missing any artifacts in Primary that might be why. If you haven’t finished Primordial Power VII then that’s probably why

Don’t buy DW

[shrewd rampart]

Alright!

...Is the Starter CPU bundle worth it tho?

[amber canyon]

Same ...

[shrewd rampart]

2x Entropy for $3 is.... idk

[fluid delta]

it’d be one thing if you made enough money each day that it was like buying a cup of coffee or smth, but it’s not for you

Yes, the two starter bundles are worth it, IMO

[shrewd rampart]

How exactly is it not for me?

[shrewd rampart]

...should I go for it?

https://tenor.com/view/woman-in-pink-dancing-nosolohit-stan-twitter-gif-11003693667271836504

[fluid delta]

Based on things you have told us

[fluid delta]

Yes

[amber canyon]

2 levels of the Idea boost haven't been noticeable on my graphs. At all. So I wouldn't recommend buying for those.

D'know if the X2 permanent boost would be ... I suspect not?

[shrewd rampart]

And which factors exactly makes you think it's not for me?

[fluid delta]

ofc ultimately your choice what to do, but since you asked us..

[shrewd rampart]

If it's because of age, then I don't think that's something vital, hehe

[shrewd rampart]

2 levels of idea boost means that the idea generation gets a x1.1 bonus, no?

x1.1 sounds quite underwhelming

[shrewd rampart]

Alright!

[fluid delta]

You know what you told us about your RL situation the other day. I’m going off that.

[amber canyon]

Can't see any effect on the graph. At all.

[shrewd rampart]

I'll be blunt... I don't remember

[amber canyon]

I personally quite like the saving up DW. My brain prefers it ... It feels more 'earnt'.

[shrewd rampart]

Oohhh

Hmmm, alright then. I'll play the waiting game.

[fluid delta]

Fair enough. You do as you see fit. I am not the boss of you.

[shrewd rampart]

Okie dokie, thanks for the input!

[amber canyon]

And ofc every game is a set of arbitrary constraints. It's how you interact with those to progress and enjoy the game that determines how good a game is, and how much fun it is.

(assuming player mindset, not hacker mindset 🙂)

Even freeform roleplaying games are about constraints. Not derived from the rules of the game; but the self-imposed rules arising from your character's development and character.

Idk, maybe it's just how I see games though.

[amber canyon]

I am though!

[fluid delta]

No, that’s fair

[shrewd rampart]

Yeah, Kf is my boss

[fluid delta]

Heh. Then.. you do as you see fit as well! ….. ofc I know the sense it is meant

[shrewd rampart]

I'm never going to finish Meso

[fluid delta]

yes you will

[shrewd rampart]

:(

[amber canyon]

You might be glad to know that my staff usually enjoy having me as their boss. And usually do well in their careers. 🙂.

[shrewd rampart]

I forgot that you're pretty high up in your career, hehe

[amber canyon]

High? Hmm ... More been kicking around for a while.

If I took more promotions I'd have to do less of the stuff I do like, and more of the stuff I don't. Also I'm good at what I do 🙂.

[shrewd rampart]

That's one way to see the path in life!

[amber canyon]

Best way imo. Got plenty enough money and free time, can help others at work and irl. And feel like I did a good day's work at the end of it.

Can't complain 🙂.

Not saying it's easy, mind. Can be ... fraught ... Sometimes. But anyways.

Hopefully your exams'n'stuff will open up similarly satisfying stuff for you 🙂

[lament silo]

Why cells like to remove my progress 😞

I used to easily get the Mars thing 😭

[thin notch]

Collect your Darwins

[twilit cypress]

6th gen iPad, iPadOS 17.7.10

[amber canyon]

The game has been rebalanced to provide better progression.

[crisp apex]

fastest way to level up?

[loud loom]

Bruh I'm still in 666

[oak badger]

Any tips or advices how to do Beyond faster?

[strange wing]

4x boost is by far the best

Along with some research boost and blue star, black hole

You get them if u got high rank on the event

[plucky marsh]

Are there any new nodes after level 65?

[amber canyon]

Primary stuff finishes at RL62 at the moment afaik.

Welp. Finally got enough Metabits to buy Quantum Slipstream and up to PP VII 6. After 9.5 days ...

[crisp linden]

do some of the upgrade boost your production the longer you've been in the current universe/simulation?(primary)

[raven skiff]

I need a opinion! I asked semblance if she want to go with me in a date and she told me just if we eat metabits. Where I can find metabits?

[sweet hedge]

Metabits taste so good with research chips

Just rip the metabits out of the reality engine

[amber canyon]

Yes, there are 8 Time nodes (look for the clock icon in the RE tree:

• 3 for entropy (Time Chambers)
• 1 for metabits (Time Crystal)
• 3 for ideas (Time Chambers)
• 1 for knowledge (Time Crystal)

Welcome to div 666. And not getting server roles I guess.

[deft willow]

Came back from a birthday

[thin notch]

The cons of playing mobile Clicker games (technically Tapper since it's mobile) is that accidental screenshot happens

Happened three times to me

[raven skiff]

Happy Birthday!

[deft willow]

It's not my birtday

[sweet hedge]

Happy someone elses birthday!

[raven skiff]

Happy Birthday to him/her

[raven skiff]

Happy Birthday to kitty!🍻

[long raven]

Top 100 keeps eluding me 🙁

[raven skiff]

You mean cats? Yes cats love freedom

[sweet hedge]

Freedom you say?

[leaden burrow]

How do research chips and the entropy/idea bonuses shown here work? I haven’t actually spent a research chip since the update. What happens if I spend one, aside from my chip inventory decreasing?

[true vigil]

dude i locked in so hard today, went from like 180 to 22nd

[true vigil]

every 10 spent in total everything gets 2x

so for example if you spent 4 more your boosts would go from 1740 (1790 if you spent 2 on each) to 3480 (3580)

[leaden burrow]

Cool. Thanks. I know update is pretty new so published documentation hasn’t been updated yet, so I’m grateful for the knowledge sharing.

[true vigil]

sorry #13 just started challenge level 2

[true vigil]

wiki still uses old stuff?

[leaden burrow]

Appears to, yes.

Unless there’s a different primary one than:

https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Cell_to_Singularity_Wiki

[true vigil]

currencies seem to be updated

probably in the middle of changing stuff

[fluid delta]

Yeah, I am not surprised you are having problems. 2GB of RAM, only 32GB to 128GB of storage.. and especially if you didn’t get the top-end model, and given how iPadOS (and iOS) handles multiple apps at once with using swap, I am honestly surprised it is running at all.. and ofc being on v17 of the OS, it is going to leave relatively little RAM free. I suggest you upgrade to a recent iPad or run Cells on PC instead. I use a iPad Pro 11” 3rd gen, which uses the M1 CPU, has 16GB of RAM and 1TB of storage.. that runs Cells and other things really well.. if you get a iPad that has some version of the M-series CPU (which is most of them for sale now), you should be fine, and you’ll be able to run the current version of the OS as well.

[fluid delta]

Hmm, I suppose I should start the event, huh?

[strange lark]

the reboot trailer got 3.5 million views thats honestly insane

[rough axle]

We are so back

[crisp linden]

Thank you

[fluid delta]

rank 996 when I started the event a few minutes ago. I knew I should have waited a little longer to get put into a later div. oh well

[amber canyon]

Damn. Well you have the time, knowledge and skill to grab top 10 if you want. Or just grab the badges ...

[fluid delta]

oh I know. It just irks me a little that if I had waited literally a few minutes…. oh well. I will probably just grab badges today. I presume you’ll start tomorrow morning UK time?

What level are you up to, now?

[amber canyon]

Likely RL 65 in the next 12 hours. Progress def slowed down once the first Time Chambers maxed. No rush though ...

[fluid delta]

Nice!! Though having to wait a week to get it down to a reasonable time.. still, like you said, no rush

[amber canyon]

Well, my RE is v underpowered for my level. I still haven't killed any frogs ...

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. you aren’t doing amphibians yet? For some reason I thought you had, Well, you’ll get there.

[amber canyon]

Oh,I've got them. Have ~240? But I haven't rebooted since then.

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[fluid delta]

oh ok, only 10 away from the achieve, so that’s good!

[amber canyon]

Yeah, I'm getting 1-2 frogs a day atm...

You anywhere near 500 frogs yet? And what RL?

[fluid delta]

Nah, nowhere near 500, I don’t expect to get that until the Mollusks update. I did get 250 a few days ago though. Up to 69.3 RL, though. It’s slow going, much worse than 68.

… that said, I haven’t been in Cells much over the last couple days

[amber canyon]

There's always a wall...

Hardik posted an updated RE tree - #🎨-cells-art message

[fluid delta]

Oh, nice!! I like that node off Idea Booster X, hopefully that’s 5 more research chips. That + what I already have unspent + 1 more at level 70 would mean another doubling! But no way will I reach that soon, I’m only halfway into Idea Booster IX

[amber canyon]

I assume that the RE will expand along with the Primary sim... Maybe?

[fluid delta]

yeah idk I haven’t heard either way

[rare aurora]

Question
Where do I find the darwinium synthesizer?

[fluid delta]

Click/Tap on the Darwinium icon and scroll down. I think it takes you directly there once it’s full and ready to be harvested for the 8 DW

[dapper tree]

3/5ths of the way their

[rare aurora]

Thanks!!

[primal stump]

@wild wave If you are experiencing performance issues with the game, please reply to the survey message with your device

And game errors go in #1010249890414202880 , not #💡-suggestions

[wild wave]

ok, Sheriff

[desert pebble]

Galaxy A12

[fluid delta]

idk about SampeDrako, but I know that model name doesn’t tell me anything about how well it runs Cells

[desert pebble]

It helps by knowing which specs are not handling the game well

[primal stump]

But it serves as a statistical reference

[primal stump]

👌

[desert pebble]

But is good to show in #1010249890414202880 some problems I encountered as well (mainly in Beyond)

[primal stump]

As I said, do not send anything to#💡-suggestions , thanks

[primal stump]

I'm checking for bugs, don't worry

[fluid delta]

.. right, you can see who voted for what, and so can we. Nvm, chalk it up to me being only half-awake, my bad!

[primal stump]

Don't worry, I make mistakes too, and I'm open to suggestions

[tiny maple]

hey out of curiosity anyone knows how to get the missing research node on the right of the flatworm?

[fluid delta]

Yes. Wait for a future update!

[tiny maple]

ah ok there was nothing suggesting it was a future update so i tought it was unlockable

[plucky cloud]

Hi. I just unlocked Alpha Centauri and the first rank didn't give me an automate card. All 33 previous celestial bodies gave an automate card on rank 1. Bug or special thing for Alpha Centauri?

[tiny maple]

or at least saw nothing

[fluid delta]

There's a bunch of nodes like that, that we know that are there but are hidden.. not the way it got handled before the update, but this works too

[tiny maple]

ok thanks

[fluid delta]

yw

[amber canyon]

Er ... It's been a while ... I vaguely remember not getting an automated for something for a while. I think it's likely you'll get one, but there's some RNG?

[plucky cloud]

Thanks for the reply. Indeed I got one on the next rank. If it's RNG it was one hell of a streak I got from the first 33 celestial bodies 😂

[fluid delta]

There’s no RNG in the game that I’ve noticed

[amber canyon]

Which trait cards you get?

[fluid delta]

yeah good point. i really AM still half asleep.

[cloud trellis]

Sup

My pfp is funny right?

[fluid delta]

The opposite of down.. but I don't think we're talking about that rn 🙂

[cloud trellis]

Credit cards?

[vagrant oracle]

Oi tudo bem?

[fluid delta]

No credit in Cells! ... except maybe for the money event

[amber canyon]

https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/575377407750438912 ?

[plucky cloud]

RNG credit cards, get charged anywhere from half to double the price

[fluid delta]

if you want to emulate that, just buy stuff with crypto.

[amber canyon]

Good, and you? They like us to talk in English here.

Google translate: Bem, e tu? Gostam que falemos em inglês aqui.

[plucky cloud]

Man, those primary simulation resets are getting brutal, wish there was automation to remove the tedium

[amber canyon]

Think the Devs have plans for some more automation in future updates. Not sure though.

[rain rain]

nanobots suck at buying stuff

[fluid delta]

well, you can officially use an autoclicker, and so on the Steam version at least, it makes it way less annoying. So there's that

but yes I know what you mean. Automation would be nice

[amber canyon]

I hate the autobuy thingy ...

[fluid delta]

I hate it too. it's useless

[plucky cloud]

I am using an autoclicker already, still way too annoying

Or maybe you mean some script that does the whole thing hands-off?

[fluid delta]

I would guess such things probably exist, but that would be bad to have as an official thing for Cells.

I just meant a regular autoclicker. It would be nice to have some feature that reduces tedium in late game though

[plucky cloud]

Mid game please, like by research level 30 or so

Maybe 40

[rain rain]

would be cool if nanobots prioritized getting new stuff, not jumping between 2-3 generators

[true vigil]

the yellow thingies that spawn stuff spawn on like timers?

[rain rain]

can't check the phone atm. Can someone test how far they'd go with reset simulation, use bots and don't do anything yourself

[true vigil]

im pretty sure you still need to scroll the camera

cuz i think they cant go off screen

[rain rain]

the what

[true vigil]

i can check rn

cuz i just reset

they arent buying shit lol

[fluid delta]

nanobots won't play the game for you

[true vigil]

just floating around without purpose

ok they fixed themselves

[rain rain]

looks great and balanced

[cinder basin]

lmao

[cinder basin]

still they should at least do SOMETHING

[rain rain]

how about we remove them completely then

[rough axle]

I miss the alpha male nanobots 😔

[cinder basin]

they look cool ig

[rain rain]

because atm they have 2 mods. And one of them is useless. And you can make the same argument about the other mode

[fluid delta]

no bc the other thing they do is give you a speed bonus for one minute. That's useful

[cinder basin]

if only we can have cosmetic nanobots flying around the simulation

like actually doing something

[amber canyon]

My beating heart. I just accidentally clicked on one of my other discord channels while carrying my tablet around. I sat down and saw this. I was WTF? WHAT DID WE DO??? IN THE LAST MINUTE!!!

[rain rain]

what do you mean, useful. "nanobots won't play the game for you", tap yourself

[fluid delta]

heh

[dapper tree]

Buying without reason

[rain rain]

oh, wait...

[dapper tree]

Hahahhaa

[plucky cloud]

Another grievance I have with the game is how the upgrades that scale with simulation duration don't scale nearly enough where it matters, i.e. metabit/knowledge gains

[cinder basin]

rip

[fluid delta]

Useful as in "not useless". They provide a benefit in one mode, so that's a reason to keep them around as something you have in Cells

[cinder basin]

is it because of this single message

[amber canyon]

Er ... They sort of do? Imo. Could be better mind.

I think the main issue is the first 10mins after a reboot.

[amber canyon]

Nah, just the rules channel for a much bigger server I'm in.

[plucky cloud]

A few minutes after reboot I can get 50% of the meta gains of an 8-hour long simulation. Incentivizes quick reboots which makes the lack of automation that much worse

[fluid delta]

Yes, I had noticed that very quickly, and have been spamming Cells ever since! 🙂 (ok, not literally, but when I am "working on" Primary, ofc that is what I'm doing)

[amber canyon]

Yeah ... It's the first 10 mins or so.

[fluid delta]

(and it's even worse, it's closer to 24 hours for that 2x, not just 8)

[amber canyon]

It 'kinks' down after 7 days slightly. Cos of maxing the Time Chamber 1s too.

Shooting star spamming helps (I did that-ish for ~ 3 days). But not that much.

[plucky cloud]

Better off rebooting after the first 🙂

[amber canyon]

Allergic to it 😁

[fluid delta]

Yeah, I typically do a bit of that after a reboot.. for 5 min or so, get a couple of them each for metabits and knowledge

[plucky cloud]

In any case, I had a rather advanced save years ago and decided to start over with the updates, and I must say, I love those updates, make the game a whole lot more fun to play

[amber canyon]

I'm deffo glad the Devs took the time to fix the underpinning issue that was preventing them from doing updates (the running-out-of-big-number-headroom one)

[plucky cloud]

Years ago, when you could get 100's of darwinium just pushing dinosaurs 😂

[true vigil]

im wondering what is the last level that unlocks an upgrade on the tree?

cuz they dont seem to end lol

thought 55 would be the end but nope

[amber canyon]

Atm? ||RL 62|| we think. The rest is locked for now.

[plucky cloud]

Wish there was an option to tune click gain display, something like a keybind to toggle them on/off. Anyone else in that boat?

Or make them translucent

[fluid delta]

Not sure what you mean by "tune click gain display"

[plucky cloud]

They hinder seeing what's behind them, so hiding or changing their display size/transparency would be useful sometimes

I personally don't like how the numbers stay on screen that long

[amber canyon]

'They'?

[languid ruin]

has anyone ever tried pushing as much as possible in a single reset?

[fluid delta]

pushing?

[languid ruin]

like, getting as many research levels as possible

without resetting

[fluid delta]

@KF has a long time between reboots..

[plucky cloud]

Ever? would take some curious mind for sure 😂

[amber canyon]

I guess I'm doing that?

[languid ruin]

i think i only reset once (without counting the tutorial) and i´ve thought... hmm, i wonder how much i can push this simulation before getting more upgrades

even the game is telling me "recommended" lol

this is a concept i got from another game, but this one has a lot of potential for the same challenge

[amber canyon]

4 reboots since the Reboot, 14 in total. Gone from RL 52 to RL 64.95.

[languid ruin]

i used to play before the reality reboot, but ofc it was not really a challenge thenn

[amber canyon]

(fully maxed the game before the Reboot)

[rough axle]

There’s a a series of upgrades later on that boost your simulation by time spent in it. I think they’ll really help you

[languid ruin]

but with how things work now, i wonder how many research levels i can get in a single simulation

[languid ruin]

ah, i see

im tempted to delete my save to start from 1st simulation again

[fluid delta]

I'm way more reboots since the update, gone from RL52 (also was at endgame) to RL69.3...

[amber canyon]

I don't know how it would work doing it now from scratch.

[languid ruin]

yeah, thats what im asking

so, no one has ever done that from the start since the reality reboot?

[fluid delta]

Probably someone has. But it's not one of us speaking up rn 🙂

[languid ruin]

hm

[amber canyon]

Maybe 'reset simulation'? Instead of deleting your save. Then you keep your Meso, Beyond and purchases.

[fluid delta]

The downside with deleting your save or starting on a new account is you lose all those badges.. and you can't earn them quickly, only 6 per week

[languid ruin]

i ask because i like this challenges (in another idle, got from 280 lifetime of one resource, to 575k in 1 single reset. it was a reset of 105 days)

[languid ruin]

i literally just started, meso is rank 9 i think, i dont have beyond as im only research 5, and i didnt purchase anything (f2´)

f2p*

[amber canyon]

There are others keeping their reboots low. The Fox fan person maybe? But not sure if they started from zero in primary.

[fluid delta]

(and then there's the Darwinium cost.. you will need to spend some, else your progress will plateau. You do earn free DW, but that does take time)

[amber canyon]

Sorry, purchases include Darwinium and logit purchases. Not cash.

[languid ruin]

ah

eh, i dont mind

i actually purchased some things with darwinium that... are probably better if i dont spend in that

so resetting those purchases are actually good

and didnt buy anything with logit (i still didnt do any event aside from maybe participating a bit)

[amber canyon]

Crack on then! From my experience I think you might find it helpful to get the primary and RE tech trees. So you know when it's a good time to reboot/upgrade.

[fluid delta]

The only really necessary purchases, are things that give you a permanent bonus

[languid ruin]

whats re?

[amber canyon]

Reality Engine

[languid ruin]

ah

[fluid delta]

(those cost DW and Logits.. and technically about $10 for the two new things in the store since the update)

[languid ruin]

welp

i guess i´ll do that

im gonna have to go through the tutorial again tho lol

but whatever

i wonder how much i can puhs

[amber canyon]

You know about the codes, right? For Darwinium?

[fluid delta]

it's all good. the key point is that you are having fun 🙂

[languid ruin]

research level 10 in first simulation? who knows

[languid ruin]

yeah, i have a lot of fun doing these challenges

im also a busy person so i cant play much actively

[languid ruin]

actually no i dont

wait, brb

[amber canyon]

I think strategically rebooting to buy the 8 x Time nodes might help. But have fun, and report back!

[amber canyon]

Use the command /codes in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/751513380413505618

Also ||01110010 and MOISTSKIN and BIGCUBE (Devs trolling us with this one)|| if that list hasn't been updated recently.

[languid ruin]

thanks for all the help!

seems like a great community

[fluid delta]

I’m glad we could help 🙂

[languid ruin]

i might get some recognition with these little challenge hehe

[amber canyon]

Well, I'll certainly be interested!

[desert pebble]

How do I reset my reality engine to get the boost to experience the new update?

I’m on IOS

[amber canyon]

The 'Legacy Protocol' wasn't implemented.

You can reset your primary sim using the 3 bar menu>help>reset sim. But no reward.

[desert pebble]

Ohhh okay

Thank you

[languid ruin]

is this reset mandatory? like, will i get a fixed amount of metabits?

or can i get more metabits if i keep pushing

ah no i think its mandatory

and the game gifts you like 30 metabits or something

its 3 LOL

[amber canyon]

I think there's one mandatory reboot: to get the RE up.and running to start making metabits? Really not sure though.

Maybe a second one to start knowledge production?

[languid ruin]

yeah this one is mandatory

[strange lark]

Damn

Better this than none i guess

Lol

[languid ruin]

...and the grind starts

[strange lark]

Insert that one sisyphus meme

[languid ruin]

The rock one?

And the cliff

How much time does it usually take to complete an event?

[amber canyon]

I quite like pushing the metabit rock up the hill 🙂

[languid ruin]

Like, out of the 3 days the event is availaible, in how much can you complete it?

[amber canyon]

Hmm. It varies. Depends how efficiently you play. Basically how often you can open the event. And how many badges you've collected (but you're new, so none).

I'd start by joining asap after it starts. You 'll be playing against 💜tryhards💜, so won't rank high. But you should be focusing on just collecting the 3 badges to start with.

To answer specifically, I can (with lots of events under my belt) finish them all in 2-5h each.

[languid ruin]

Ah, i see

I'll try to do updates on this "hellroad"

I guess main goal right now is research 4 for meso

And then ranking up meso

Which will unlock new things in main simulation, which means i'll be able to push further~

[languid ruin]

Which should be pretty easy

[amber canyon]

Post with advice for events if interested: #💬-cells-chat message

[languid ruin]

Hm, i think i got most of it

[amber canyon]

Meso progress will have the most effect on the primary sim, yes. But just play which ever of the 3 main Sims you fancy at whichever point. They all have pros and cons, and if one is a bit slow, the others are there. And of course the ~18 different events provide variety and interest too 🙂.

[languid ruin]

Yeah

[plucky cloud]

Maybe I just intuitively dodged it, but what's the trap you speak of?

I mean, I'm on challenge 4 so I doubt I fell into the trap 😆

[amber canyon]

If you feel like using auto-clickers, they are allowed. ⬆️

[amber canyon]

It's ||making sure you have enough LUCA before triggering the extinctions||.

[languid ruin]

The concept of "hellroad" is basically optimizing the amount of prestige currency you can get in a single reset

Im doing it in another idle, and thought this one had a lot of potential for that, so here i am

[plucky cloud]

lol, ah yes, I made that mistake once when the event first released... never again 😂

[amber canyon]

I mean. Everybody does. That's why the warning is worded like that 😁.

[languid ruin]

Oh i see

Im about to get the extinction lol

[amber canyon]

Well. Are you going to avoid the trap?

[languid ruin]

If im able to, yeah

131 luca rn, i guess i can get to like 200

[amber canyon]

I think the first Extinction isn't too bad to do it on. But later on ... Yeah ... Can hurt.

[languid ruin]

241 luca

Hope this is enough

To not fuck up

[amber canyon]

👍

Can't remember the specifics, mind you.

[languid ruin]

Well, if anything, there's always a first time, isnt it

[amber canyon]

But you want to ||make sure you have enough to clear the objective|| because ||the next generator doesn't appear till you claim it||.

[languid ruin]

Looks like 241 was enough

Next one is 200k and its not that expensive

[amber canyon]

Right, g'night all. 💤 Time for me 🙂.

[languid ruin]

Gn! Thanks for all the help

[amber canyon]

NP! And enjoy!

[languid ruin]

[cloud zealot]

my absolutely normal, mesozoic valley
-# there is nothing wrong with my screenshot, what are you talking about?

[languid ruin]

got research 3

[strange lark]

LOOL

Honestly bro fits perfectly

[cloud zealot]

fr

I sure do hope he doesn't eat my dinosaurs

[final kite]

what fits perfectly? i see nothing different

[strange lark]

Nah that's a friend-shaped individual

[fallow anchor]

I'm back

Reality reboot made me want to rejoin

[rough axle]

You’re the guy who used to have the villager pfp right

[fallow anchor]

That was me

[rough axle]

Welcy backy

[fallow anchor]

I changed it again

[gray yew]

Wb

[fallow anchor]

Hollow knight is my favorite game

[gray yew]

Always keep LUCA in mind
||You’ll need it at the end-lots of it||

[fallow anchor]

Does the prokaryotic cell ever get better than amphibian with max primordial power?

[untold lily]

Anyone else who's kinda annoyed by the long animations of this event?

[fallow anchor]

Yeah

[fallow anchor]

I just got the next upgrade and it's already better

And there's still 4 more to go

[spring dome]

with 8 levels of primordial power VII

[warm lodge]

Yes, it's great but the idea tree needs more and better generators. It's so far behind on the entropy tree!

[fallow anchor]

It's probably better for me rn even though I only have level 6 primordial power because I have a lot more cells than amphibians

[warm lodge]

Time Chamber goes Brrrrrrrr!

[rough axle]

holy moly

[warm lodge]

Bang Bang Lucky L.U.C.A.!

[shrewd rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/woman-in-pink-dancing-nosolohit-stan-twitter-gif-11003693667271836504

[shrewd rampart]

I guess I'm done!

[fallow anchor]

There are still plenty of upgrades in the reality engine

[twilit cypress]

Unfortunate, since I can't get ad rewards on PC

[inner tapir]

the final primordial garden upgrade (512BB metabits), or whatever that converts to for your own display was a brutal grind but completely worth it

[fluid delta]

Agreed. You'd need to have Infinity Pass.. but Infinity Pass on Steam + Autoclicker is better than Ad boost on iPad

[fluid delta]

Yep. It makes a big difference

[shrewd rampart]

Hi Sephie! Watcha doin?

[shrewd rampart]

...is RL 62 the end for this patch's content?

I don't see any new research nodes past RL 62

[fallow anchor]

I just tied my best singularity time

[fluid delta]

Good Job Jim Bob….. hey, that rhymes!!

[fluid delta]

Yes, so far

[shrewd rampart]

Bob had a job where he had to bob his bob haircut as he sobs

I don't know man.. I'm not a rapper :(

[fluid delta]

Neither am I, but that’s fine

[fallow anchor]

Now I got a new best

1:46

Now I got 1:38

[dusk helm]

Please tell me how to link the game to Discord to get roles?

[fluid delta]

post screenshots of your progress to #🏆-share-your-prestige and then wait, it’s a manual process, not automatic

[dusk helm]

I did. Right?

[fluid delta]

maybe? I'm not admin here, I'm not sure

[wraith terrace]

Has it really not yet been 2 weeks since the reboot? Damn, it feels longer.

That's what you get for grinding, I guess

[fluid delta]

what reboot number are you up to?

[keen mango]

i got all trophies for the first time! I'm so proud of myself

[spare crane]

guys i have a question, what comes after Metabit Booster III? there are 2 possible upgrades after this and I wonder what comes after

i am at 81/100 on it

[carmine escarp]

question, what are all these nodes I can't seem to unlock?

[amber canyon]

#🎨-cells-art message

Looks like another MB, and a NLG to me (comparing the icon to what comes off to the left of Entropy Sextupler).

[spare crane]

it look like a research chip to me and then Meta Booster VI

[amber canyon]

Yup. And the research chip is the icon for the NLG node type.

[spare crane]

true

at this point prices are soo high that idk how many resets I will need to max it out 😂

[amber canyon]

D'know. I'm using time rather than reboot spamming. I don't see much point in doing boring-rebot spamming to 'max' it when there may well be future additions to the RE. And there will be additions to the primary sim.

[desert coral]

[spare crane]

I do hope so 🙂 Beyond is finished, and so is Meso, now all is left are events and primary slog

I still miss some logits upgrades that might help a tiny bit

[amber canyon]

Eternity has been narrowed down to between 35605 and 37017 days 🙂. #💬-cells-chat message

[amber canyon]

Beyond isn't finished. There are 2 episodes left to go, and then potential prestige (but not like Meso).

And you don't need to hope for updates: the Devs have said there'll be ~monthly updates, and next two are shown to you in game.

[spare crane]

I do hope next one gives us some idea generator

[amber canyon]

<@&535129309648781332> crypto scam DYNN.THE.DORK

[spare crane]

ye i wanted to report that but didnt know how

[amber canyon]

That's the general mod ping thing.

[primal stump]

!ban 1443631992112680961 crypto scammer

[bright otter]

Banned dynn.the.dork. (Case #4081) (user notified with a direct message)

[amber canyon]

They're always really slow though 😁

[primal stump]

thank you guys

It took me almost a minute, so yes, I was slow

well, i have a new item to add to the filter

[amber canyon]

By far the fastest mod responses on any of the servers I'm on btw!

[spare crane]

btw, did you refund your reality engine ti finish some of more expensive upgrades first?

i didnt refund since th update and I wonder

[amber canyon]

Me? No. I'm data gathering for time node growth and don't want to mess it up.

Also, cos costs are 'exponential', I'm not sure how much use it would be to reallocate node purchases.

Not really considered chip re-allocation, but reports have been somewhat disappointed so far iirc.

I think only the first refund is free? The second one costs 10dw. It may cost more after that, idk.

[spare crane]

I read people are putting all their chips into idea generation to push froward

[amber canyon]

Is an option. I guess. Sounds like you lose a lot more entropy than you gain on ideas.

Anyway, gotta go. Enjoy!

[spare crane]

Thanks for all the info! all the best

[thin notch]

Gunpowder isn't available?

[wraith terrace]

Reboots? No idea. But research level has recently reached 65. You at 70 yet?

[spare crane]

i have question regarding the "Cognitive Research" node. Is this bugged now? how does it work?

nvm i figured it

[twilit cypress]

I'm not hardcore enough to combine, I feel the current method sufficient.

I find the situation strange, since on other games I can watch 100 ads and be completely fine.

[wraith terrace]

Ads in Steam? I thought Valve didn't allow that

[topaz vapor]

Nah, ads would be for the mobile version

Android, iOS etc

[topaz vapor]

Does anyone know all the current epic traits for Mesozoic Valley? I have dinosaurs unlocked who show a missing epic trait, so I presume there's one I've not unlocked, however there's only 4 epic traits listed on the wiki and I have them all

So I'm wondering what the missing one could be, and if it's a bug or not

[delicate bone]

why the logo is change?

[wraith turtle]

What is science used for

[thin notch]

Event leaderboard

Accidental screenshot truly is the average clicker game unavoidable event

[snow karma]

Anyone, please, who can help me to fix it?

[wraith turtle]

Maybe try checking if google play is enabled and fully updated

[thin notch]

That UI looks so old

Does Upgrades that require certain amount of Gens still works?

[amber canyon]

Known bug. Add to https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1440835839415292007 and reply to the poll #💬-cells-chat message

[amber canyon]

Might be. Have you prestiged and back at lower levels again though?

[topaz vapor]

Yeah, I'm on my 4th prestige

If there is one missing, I'm wondering which it is

The empty spot as though there's a still locked trait is there even at level 50 though before prestige

Plus epic traits are meant to carry over anyway

[amber canyon]

And back at lower levels? They might not all be available if you're at low level.

They carry over. Might not mean you can access them? Don't know.

Anyway, I only know of 4 traits.

(epic)

[warm lodge]

My dad got me a year of Infinity Pass in Turkey. I live in The Netherlands and here a pass is ridiculously expensive for my taste €13.99/month €167.88/year. I got autism and live of a minimum income due to being unable to get high paying jobs so the full price is not something I'm willing to pay here. In Turkey it costs only €2.75/month €33/year. He just bought it using my card number on the official web store.

[rough axle]

The price of the infinity pass is artificially inflated by the bonus darwinium that’s included with it. I’ve put in a suggestion to allow people to buy the infinity pass without the extra darwinium (to lower the price and make it more accessible) but I haven’t heard anything back yet

[amber canyon]

I'm glad Regional Pricing exists though, it is much fairer.

Well, with 1h45m left, I don't think I'm going to get top 10 this event ...

[warm lodge]

No, this one is very hard to speedrun because all the extinctions clear your currency as well. The only thing you can do is buy extra LUCA's with excess currency before triggering the extinction. You may be able to boost to the top 10 but it may fail leading to great frustration when your cubes are wasted on that. It is cheaper to just buy the Black Hole and Diamond Geode directly.

[amber canyon]

Hmm. I got 200 more science, and am magically 3000 closer. Def worth a shot now ...

Cubes? Nah ... I won't spend them

.. because I don't have any 😁

[topaz vapor]

Yeah, 4 seems to be how many there are supposed to be, but a 5th one shows as locked. And yeah, epic traits carry over even at lower levels. It's only when unlocking them for the first time that you need to reach certain level thresholds

[amber canyon]

Cool. I knew you have to re-unlock the normal traits. Didn't know if was same for silver and gold.

[topaz vapor]

Yeah, the silver and gold carrying over is what makes prestige runs go faster

[amber canyon]

Yes, I know they carry over. I didn't know if you had to 're-unlock' them.

(in terms of spending more)

[wraith terrace]

A fifth epic trait? Wanna!

Seriously, there's only 4: ||Herd Behavior, Hollow Bones, Feathers and Warm Climate||. Are you sure you've got all ||10|| rares, though?

On an unrelated note: Revenge of the Fifth. Hur, hur.

[warm lodge]

On Mesoic there are 3 regular epic traits and one for prestige.

[wraith terrace]

Regular epic traits sounds odd, somehow 😉

But you're right, ofc

[topaz vapor]

Yep, got all 10 rares. There is one which has the C2S logo on it, as though it's one that's not been found yet, but it's got the Epic border, like it's a not yet unlocked Epic trait

But as far as I can tell, there isn't another one to unlock

[tall mirage]

@amber canyon any clue on how research lvl xp is calculated?

[fluid delta]

69, so technically close! 🙂

[inner tapir]

wow! im almost at 66...69 seems like its forever away!

[amber canyon]

Nope. Never bothered working it out. I know that for me, the actual time to the next Research Level drops pretty linearly with time (regardless of all the boosts, upgrades, entropy/idea/metabit/knowledge value/growth. The main thing that affected it was the two Time Chamber 1 nodes capping out at 7d.

[tall mirage]

Oh so basically if u stay long enough at a level, you could easily reach 64/65

It's coz I was wondering how the xp is even calculated, initially I thought it's just simple xp/s = entropy/s + idea/s, but that's obviously wrong

[inner tapir]

my problem with avoiding reboots is that in about 5 minutes, I can accumulate 50BB metabits and 800AA knowledge. If i let that draw out for a full day, i'll end with about 110BB metabits and 1.8AA of knowledge.

or i can reboot 3 times in 15 minutes and surpass both of those numbers which allow me to unlock more reality engine perks, meaning each successive reboot actually pushes me a little further incrementally in terms of how much i accumulate. so instead of 50/800 3 times, it's like 50/800, then 52/810, 54/825, etc

it requires more of my input, but ultimately does get to the objective faster

[amber canyon]

I thought about it, and decided all I actually care about is how long till the next RL.
As long as your time nodes haven't maxed out,I think you can just wait for a RL.

[amber canyon]

It would make it slower for me. I'd stop playing 🙂.

[fluid delta]

Yep, that’s why I spam reboots. With what I earn I can buy nodes on the RE tree, which in turn should speed up leveling bc that is based on what you earn

[amber canyon]

Also, I'd just hit the 'reboot-wall' later on. After hours of unpleasant (to me) playing.

[inner tapir]

yep...it's a slow increase but after ~20 reboots, you start to actually FEEL the increase and benefit

[fluid delta]

69 to 70 seems very slow, you might reach 69 before I reach 70

[inner tapir]

i remember when i was hard capped at 22BB metabits per reboot, now im at 50

[tall mirage]

yea but the rebooting simulations gets boring very quick

[inner tapir]

this is the biggest problem

im at reboot #120

[fluid delta]

I am around 200 reboots

[tall mirage]

yea I'm at 84 as well, but I was at 70 when the infinity pass ended

[inner tapir]

the only good thing about reboot spam is that you inevitably get your singularity time down lol

[fluid delta]

heh indeed

[amber canyon]

Atm here's no real advantage being over RL62 imo: you've unlocked all the primary sim.

[tall mirage]

yea, the only reason is RE, nothing else

[inner tapir]

i want to get as many RE unlocks as possible ahead of new content so that i can have the perks already unlocked and take max advantage of whatever new content becomes available

[fluid delta]

… but does anything unlock at 70? Like that stuff in the store. Curiosity there helps keep me going

[inner tapir]

be sure to let us know :p

[fluid delta]

I will

[tall mirage]

unlikely but yea worth to try

[amber canyon]

Fair. I personally would rather play through new updates, rather than skipping straight to the end, and then hanging around for another month or so.

[inner tapir]

yeah im on reboot #119, about to do 120...max singularity time is 1m4s

[inner tapir]

it's a fair approach

[languid prairie]

i think i ended this event with rank 25, or 24. reached it in the last minute lmao. the one who was 25 before will probably hate me

[tall mirage]

Eh if u have meso and beyond at/close to 100%, it honestly doesn't matter to most

[fluid delta]

.. I am at rank 12 and that was ignoring the game after completing it about 24h ago. if i had known how close i would have gotten i would have at least done CL2!

[languid prairie]

well i don't lmao. altho getting top 10 was absolutely not in. 2k more points for that lmao no thanks

[inner tapir]

my RE unlocks are now costing me 46BB metabits each, and at 52BB per reboot, it's going to eventually get to a point where multiple reboots are needed for one single unlock (for the ones that require 100 upgrades to complete)

[amber canyon]

I'll be hated: I stole rank 10 about 5 mins before the end ...

[fluid delta]

hehe

[fluid delta]

yes that is the annoying part

[inner tapir]

the RE unlock wall is a realy daunting wall to face

[languid prairie]

also i guess i should get the 7b metabit upgrade for better metabit efficience huh?

rn getting about 3b after a longer run

otherwise 10b upgrade for another big multiplier to all

[amber canyon]

Meh ... Not daunting ... Just sorta pointless? especially after RL62. I'm quite happy with only having done 14 reboots in total: 4 since The Reboot. That makes me a lot happier, than reboot-spamming.

[languid prairie]

is it worth rn going for a few quick resets to reach 7b? or anything there that i should get before that might help immensely before that?

[fluid delta]

I’m up to 1CC for the metabit nodes

[frank idol]

I got top 2 in room 322

[inner tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/daddy-shrek-gif-23156636

[tall mirage]

damn, I'm dreading quark expansion in Idea lol

it needs 500BB, but I barely get 500AA a simulation

[fluid delta]

… and that’s with two of the nodes barely started and the third half done

[inner tapir]

yeah 500BB knowledge is absurd. would take me about 750 straight reboots as i am now to do it

[fluid delta]

Yeah, I already got that done. It gets worse, unfortunately, though not packed into a single iteration of a node

[inner tapir]

which would be (without distraction) about 2,250 minutes which is several days

[tall mirage]

might as well wait at that point Ig

I wonder what my rank in new lb would be

[inner tapir]

and it's not like i don't have 3 kids and a wife and a job or anything lol

[tall mirage]

I hope they keep alpha and beta separate

[amber canyon]

I don't think so? Genesis Genome might be a good option too?

[fluid delta]

oh, you don’t? get on it then!! 🙂

[inner tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4303261

[fluid delta]

😄

[tall mirage]

a full reset of primary sim and I can't even get amphibian and martian city to 250, talk about a 1000

[inner tapir]

amphibian 250 was tough as it is

[rain rain]

achieves are designed, probably, with a future content in mind

(ignoring the ones that people have, for some reason)

[inner tapir]

i wonder how many people are in the upper 60's, or even 70+

[tall mirage]

looking at terminus chamber which is half-filled, they got a lot more left to introduce

[fluid delta]

yeah, that’ll help. if you are missing any of the artifacts/things, that does slow it down.. though i say that and don’t have all the upgrades in the store maxxed out yet

[strange mica]

Designing fun content for both new players and veteran players is hard XD

Hey, do the time chambers cap, and if so, when?

[rain rain]

especially when vets rush through it in first day, and then be like: "next update when"

[inner tapir]

i have all upgrades (logits augments, darwinium augments, darwinium upgrades, etc...) so i sadly have to rule out all of those from impeding my prgoress

[fluid delta]

i could finish the upgrades at this point but am trying to have a DW buffer

[inner tapir]

yeah i had several thousand saved for this once i saw it in the alpha. im fully unlocked and still have 870 darwinium left

[tall valley]

I like the new update but I can already tell it’s a little harder to get achievements so I’m glad I got all the ones I could before hand

[rain rain]

don't have lots of darwinium stuff and stuck. Would be fun to see some new sources

[strange mica]

I keep thinking about the time chambers and how the x**4 scaling is horrendous cause it fights the reboot economy... unless they do cap out at a certain time amount, but I haven't tested that yet. Did anyone cap out the time chambers?

[fluid delta]

tine chambers in RE?

[tall valley]

I’m still trying to figure of the new upgrade system

[inner tapir]

brutal

[strange mica]

Yes

[fluid delta]

then yes i have. i only have a few nodes left on each side of the tree undone

[tall valley]

I feel like I understand but it’s slow going

[fluid delta]

yup, me too

[strange mica]

No, not like, is there a limited number of time chambers, but it there a maximum amount of time to wait until they have a maximum bonus

[inner tapir]

and you can see that Entropy booster IX and entropy speed booster III are going to expand into new unlocks when im done with them, further torturing me

but metabit booster IV seems to be the final node

[tall mirage]

primordial is finished?

[inner tapir]

yes

[fluid delta]

yes. i have those unlocked, those are the ones that start at 1CC and then get worse! but no further unlocks from there

[tall mirage]

ah no wonder, that's 512x over me lol

[inner tapir]

these are my only 3 metabit nodes i have to work on right now

[amber canyon]

The two Time Chamber 1's cap at 100 at exactly 7d in game time. D'know about the rest yet.

[fluid delta]

I’m not sure. Kf will know

[inner tapir]

and this is my knowledge sector

[tall valley]

Should I only upgrade what’s recommended

[inner tapir]

i wish the blue suggestion ball would not appear over nodes that i can't afford

and would show me what to do based on what i CAN do

[strange mica]

Oh great. The devs do know their stuff, I was worried that it was uncapped, which would have been terrible.

[tall mirage]

Yea idea feels way too slow compared to metabits

[amber canyon]

I wish they hadn't left us with those, with their new reqt.

[fluid delta]

this is mine

[tall mirage]

wait u don't have entropy and idea at 60 each? why u got 4 research chips left

[fallow anchor]

Why does everyone use the custom notation

[inner tapir]

was the quark expansion worth saving for? or do you think you should have spent it in between on other stuff?

[strange mica]

I have no clue... it baffles me every time

[inner tapir]

it's easier for me to make sense of the values. z is bigger than a, double z is bigger than double a, etc

[tall mirage]

tf why is your knowledge compressor not maxed

[fluid delta]

bc custom is AWESOME

[tall mirage]

to 95% disc

[fallow anchor]

I like the scientific notation because it lets me grasp how big the numbers are

[strange mica]

scientific notation is much clearer for me

[inner tapir]

scientific is too much text in my display for me

[strange mica]

16 is bigger than 15... easier than the alphabet

[fluid delta]

both sides are equal. i only spend chips when there’s 10 and i get a doubling

[amber canyon]

Should know in a few days about the Chamber 2s. Mine are currently at ~x70 after 11 days.

[tall mirage]

I switch between scientific/normal

[tall mirage]

I'm guessing there's another node that gives more research chips then

[strange mica]

thank you ❤️ I'll probably ping you later about it

[inner tapir]

like "8.42 E237" is more complicated than just "8.42AAA" (for me). i don't necessarily care about understand the actual values, i just care about distinguishing which values are higher in general

[fallow anchor]

That makes sense

[strange mica]

I'm glad it works for you, but that is just baffling for me XD 8.42 E327 is super clear, and that AAA thing is super confusing

[inner tapir]

and letters are neater than abbreviated notation (in terms of aesthetic and clean layout)

[fluid delta]

i know from what got posted earlier that there is one node that potentially is that, it splits off from the rightmost node there… but knowledge acquisition is very unequal by design atm i think rn

[amber canyon]

Yeah. You can see it in Hardiks tech tree image in cells art. Towards the middle bottom left.

[tall mirage]

what's next level focus above knowledge compressor 4?

[fluid delta]

you just need to know relative amounts, and you know the alphabet. if you can handle B for billion and T for trillion, you can handle BB, DDD etc

[tall mirage]

I'll take a look at it

[inner tapir]

another confusing thing for me, at least at face value is this: some upgrades give you .03, some are .02, and some are .09....i know some are for the speed at which it's acquired, the AMOUNT of which that is acquired, and then the difference between knowledge/ideas and entropy/metabits. i can't help but get confused on why it will prioritize me purchasing the .03 increases over .09 increases, under any circumstance

[strange mica]

Number are clearer than the alphabet for me, but hey, that's why there's the option for it for you guys. Still baffles me XD

[fluid delta]

Next Level Focus, gives 15 logits only

[tall valley]

This is where I’m at

[inner tapir]

is it safe to (this late in the game) conflate entropy/metabits together seeing as an increase in entropy directly correlates to an increase in metabits?

[tall mirage]

thanks, it's from taking metabit booster III to 100

[strange mica]

It's for balance. Legit, 80% of the time buying the cheapest is the best.

[tall mirage]

oh lmaoo, useless ahh

[fluid delta]

You can all see the full tree (but not what they do) in #🎨-cells-art

[inner tapir]

so just buy whatever you can afford?

[tall mirage]

it's because .03 is knowledge and .09 is ideas, knowledge = cube root of ideas or even worse

[fluid delta]

Yes. I am hoping Next Level Mindset is 5 more chips.. and it could be, since the one below it on the side is as well

[tall valley]

Invisible 🫥

[tall mirage]

🙏 hopefully

[strange mica]

For the /100 ones, yeah. The big ones are worth saving though (like the primordial power or quantum slipstream).
There are exceptions though, but most of the time that is accurate.

[fluid delta]

mmhmm! that would give me another doubling at 70

[tall valley]

Ok then bye

[tall mirage]

yea which looks likely

[strange mica]

Because the /100 nodes go in 2**(1/10) for linear payout they tend to all self balance pretty well

[fluid delta]

(though that won’t be an actual rate doubling if so, just a small little boost)

[amber canyon]

Note secondary y-axes

[frank idol]

and this is my game, it's been my work for a long time

[amber canyon]

I can see the icons ...

[strange mica]

oh that is golden. Yeah I can see exactly what the dev did there. And yeah, that is smarty smart on their part. Thank you for that ❤️

[amber canyon]

Increases to Metabits/knowledge are more worthwhile than those to entropy/ideas. Also it's dumb. And obsessed with Primordial Power.

[tall mirage]

yea easily, I get 8.54 E101 ideas/s, but only 1.79 E16 knowledge/s, that's like a 6.273th root, it's crazy

[strange mica]

I dunno, I've been studying their design for the past week and, except for the lack of usefulness for prestiging meso (and the numerous crashes and bugs), the new design and balance is just fantastic. It's really hard to make a bad decision.

[left grotto]

Eked out a 10 right on the edge in the mass extinction event hell yeah

I like that event so much idk why

I guess the gimmick is very thematic

[amber canyon]

Excuse the trend line (my spreadsheet software isn't too advanced there). But for Metabits Vs entropy/s for my game.

[strange mica]

That's probably a power law and not a linear one

[tall mirage]

You see where it says 5.2 E17 metabits/s in the matbit converter? What number does it show for u

[strange mica]

(if I was them I would have put a power law for that conversion, and it does look like one)

[tall mirage]

It is power lol, he's just made it linear for visual representation

[strange mica]

oh my bad I misunderstood their message

[tall mirage]

yea look at the formula, it's e-99

[amber canyon]

Probably. But dumb spreadsheet tool 😁

(which was just really irritating me!)

[tall mirage]

can u do metabits/s by entropy/s

[strange mica]

There's probably an initial value, but huh that's weird, the power law doesn't fit that either

Now I want to reverse engineer it lol

[amber canyon]

No, sorry. I only keep a record of the data the game gives me. Which is my metabit 'holdings', not per second.

[tall mirage]

it shows metabit/s no?

It's in the metabit converter

[strange mica]

no it only shows total metabits

there's no metabits/s anyway since you need to fill the chambers

[amber canyon]

This is what my holdings are doing over time. ETA - remember the two Time Chamber 1's capped out at 7d.

[tall mirage]

I mean this 5.2 e17

What's that

[strange mica]

but you can reverse engineer it pretty easily if you just takes a few points in a row for the converter fills size vs # fills

[fluid delta]

Right. yes, you are the one that brought it to my attention in the first place 🙂

[amber canyon]

Anyone who wants to grab my data - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NWa97d-EnEiakzUfDY0wNyOzFNGU_4uV/view?usp=drivesdk

It's sheet 2 that's got the data and graphs on. Android OpenOfice.

[amber canyon]

Oohhh. Hmm. No I don't record that. Sorry!

[gray yew]

I feel like making a trend line-graph-chart-thing of prices in the Extinction event. Just because.

[strange mica]

oh this is gold, lemme try to reverse that

[amber canyon]

Warning, it gets addictive 😁

[amber canyon]

I set it up for me, so if you got any questions, feel free to ask. Things may not be clear ...

[strange mica]

Sadly, I would need the fill size quickly reverse engineer it, I don't think you have it

[amber canyon]

No. It wasn't something I noticed. Or was focused on.

[strange mica]

it's okay, it's something I can just get myself

[tall mirage]

finally one thing u don't record

[amber canyon]

Still darwinium-poor. Sigh. Only 600 DW of purchases left though ...

[tall mirage]

we get guaranteed 12 as long as u log in twice a day

[amber canyon]

Aye. I just keep spending it in the boosts. My, there's a lot of them.

[strange mica]

Welp, I jolted down a few numbers for the converters, I think it'll be slightly harder to reverse engineer than the reality reboot, the formula seems to be slightly more complex

[median meadow]

I noticed the metabit and knowledge upgrades stop going up in price at 30 per upgrade

Which was a nice surprise

[amber canyon]

I think - given that the time to get to the next RL drops fairly linearly[1] - that converter formula must be essentially 'undoing' most of the other power/log/exponential growth from the various things ...

... That's where I'd start anyway. And possibly with a 'refunded' RE to clear out all the multipliers you can.

[1] but log y-axis.

[strange mica]

There definitely are multiple regimes for it

[gray yew]

I’ve been there, methinks

[inner tapir]

welp, i've stored 5BB knowledge. 1% there to the quark expansion lol

[warm lodge]

Time chambers cap at x100 as far as I know. The first one reaches that in 7 days. The others are slower. That means that the buildup should slow down after 7 days.

I'll probably let mine auto-click ideas overnight with these time chamber/crystal boosts and then reset to spend the earnings.

[amber canyon]

Waaaaaay ahead of you, mate. I've stored 1.04e19 (10.4BB). It's gonna be a nail-biting race. Or maybe not.

[amber canyon]

Don't forget about the compliers ...

[strange mica]

the what?

[amber canyon]

The RE nodes multipliers that get larger the more metabits/knowledge 'cycles' there's been.

[spare crane]

how much knowledge have you stored after the week?

[strange mica]

true, I did forget about them, but it still doesn't explain the numbers I have. Every points to a logarithmic trend, but the base of which varies a little

I'm baffled they went logarithmic instead of power law, but it is what it is I guess

[amber canyon]

Me? After a week I had 5.2e18 (5.2Bb). Half what I have now (after just under 11 days). Think I started this run at the start of RL62 (for context).

[spare crane]

I am at the same point right now. Probably will let the game run a bit. The upgrades are way too much 😄

[amber canyon]

A little? I have noticed that there can be a slip between irl time and in game time ...

[strange mica]

nah, it means that there is another term in the formula that I can't quite crack

[amber canyon]

It was max ~45mins for the first 3 days ... Then it got big enough that I switched to irl time. No idea what the slip.is now ...

Should have mentioned that before.

[strange mica]

Although I can say that at high entropy (when you've bought everything in your simulation) gains are mainly logarithmic

[amber canyon]

Nice edit 😁

Anyway, have fun! I gotta go cook some food 🙂.

[strange mica]

What I have so far for the converters:
fill chamber requirements is exponential with a varying base that raises over time (around 1.295 on fill 1300, 1.330 on fill 1430), fill chamber payout is exponential with a varying base that lowers over time (1.05 at the start, around 1.02 on fill 1430).

that is with the compliers

[amber canyon]

Aaaand you've already got further with Metabit Maths(🤯) than the entirety of the pre-Reality Reboot understanding!

(except for the Devs.possibly)

[strange mica]

Well, math is literally my main job lol. Anyone else in my field would actually shame me for how little progress I've made.
(I'm sure given more time I could crack it, but I only had less than an hour on my lunch break)

that's why I was baffled by the time chambers mechanics before I knew that they capped out at 100, cause the scaling was all wrong

[amber canyon]

Well, I'm an engineer and am impressed. I decided to treat it as a black box ...

Anyway ... Cooking!

[strange mica]

well thank you for your kind words ^^ anyone want to help me crack it just ping me

maybe once the converters are cracked we can try the XP formula, those are the only 2 that I couldn't quickly do.

[amber canyon]

It'd have to be the weekend for me. I also have that pesky work thing ...

[keen mango]

just claimed my top 25 rewards

[untold lily]

Ah thank god, art event is way nicer to grind than the extinction event

[untold lily]

Which League were you in?

[lucid gust]

what does this exactly mean and how many people have it?

[fluid delta]

You got it if you got all the nodes in reality engine before the revamp. The neutrino expansion node was really time-consuming to get (months)

[lucid gust]

aight

i dont remember getting all tho

i thought there was like a really expenmsive one in the quadrillians i diddnt have

[fluid delta]

there was. it was neutrino expansion

[lucid gust]

weird

thought i didnt get it

[fluid delta]

yeah, idk. maybe they gave it to all pre-update players? not sure, since I did have all the nodes myself

[rain rain]

it's for getting the one before the expensive one

[lucid gust]

this would make sense for my situation

[fluid delta]

ohhh, yes, that makes sense, given the wording above

[lucid gust]

my gf doesnt have the achievment

[gray yew]

yunno, im still convinced that this events garden would be great as an art exhibition irl

[gray yew]

coulda sworn i didnt have that one, yet i still got that achievement. weird...

[strange lark]

Huh didnt know that

Probably that's why i have it too

I just assumed it was a bug and claimed it lol

[lusty orchid]

How many support trophies there are?

I just got one

[gray yew]

me too i guess
i mean ill take it

[fluid delta]

As Куртти has noticed, it's for the node before, it's bc you unlocked Neutrino Expansion, not that you bought it! 🙂

[strange lark]

3

[gray yew]

ah ok thx

[rough axle]

If you got the second-to-last one you got it too

The devs didn’t want it to be too exclusive

[lucid gust]

fair

[inner tapir]

wish we could convert our logits into something else useful lol

[fluid delta]

that would be very nice, yeah 🙂

.. maybe the last row of upgrades in the store that we can't see yet could be priced with them?

[languid ruin]

Update on the hellroad, got research 4

around 41 metabits, unlocked meso, which should significantly boost main simulation

[spare crane]

Ye a long road in front of you

[languid ruin]

since im the first one doing this, and i know nothing past early game, i´ll have to path out things by myself.
expectations for first reset (not counting tutorial): research 7-8, 1000 metabits

[gray yew]

gl

[amber canyon]

Changed the Metabit by entropy /s graph to have a log x-axis.

An obvious kink at 1e18 entropy /s; which is around where the Time Chamber 1 nodes capped out 🤦.

[amber canyon]

Do you need costs of things? Such as we can provide from where we are? (Stacking nodes are hard to seperate).

[strange mica]

why do you plot per entropy/s instead of per entropy total?

Cause that graph will change for every reboot

[amber canyon]

Cos I buy things with the entropy. Trying to keep the data collection simple 🙂.

Graph will change anyway, sooo many variables. I was just looking for broad relationships. Engineer remember 🙂.

[strange mica]

fair

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[languid ruin]

Wdym by "stacking nodes are hard to separate"?
Either way, nah, not yet, but I appreciate it. Is (example) resetting, then cloud loading to before I reset allowed?

That way I can optimize what to get in each reset, efficiently maximizing each reset gains to keep a high gain but low reset count

[amber canyon]

There are some 'nodes' that are made up of 10 or 100 mini-nodes. Once you've bought later ones in the stack, I don't think you can see how much earlier ones cost.

I'd allow using the cloud-save. Work smart! But it's your call 🙂.

[languid ruin]

I mean, is it allowed the same way as autoclickers are allowed?

Like, no penalty, right?

[amber canyon]

I have used the cloud save a few times to explore e.g. how much the boosts were going to cost me in total DW. Didn't trigger anything.

I can't think of any rules you'd be breaking, or anything you'd trigger.

[languid ruin]

Also i see they collaborated with Chrysto for the reality reboot

I got this concept of hellroading from CIFI, lol

[amber canyon]

The main anti-cheat is monitoring your device time. Don't do that, unless you want to be sent to div 666.

[languid ruin]

I got 575k of a currency in a 4th reset, when usually people get that in a 12-14th reset

Took me 105 days of no resetting

[languid ruin]

I see

[amber canyon]

I assume there was some connection before: in the RE before the Reality Reboot - #💬-beta-chat message

[languid ruin]

Damn

Thats quite interesting

[warm lodge]

Are those graphs for the wiki?

[amber canyon]

I've just been keeping data for my own interest (and others). Some of the graphs are general, others aren't (because everybody's got different nodes/multipliers etc).

I have no objection if used. But think if the wiki were to try and explain e.g. the RE in detail or e.g. entropy to Metabit Maths it'd need some thought to make it clear and usable.

I'm not sure I fully get it yet ...

[warm lodge]

I've seen many of yours. They can be quite useful as far as I'm able to read/understand them. But here they just get buried in the chat so they deserve a better place where they can be used as reference for gameplay decisions.

[amber canyon]

I'll see if I can find a way to communicate it over the weekend. 🙂

Glad you're finding them useful 🙂. I think the main gameplay decision is if you want to span-reboot or not ...

... But if I can explain the playing 'deep' tactics, I will ...

[warm lodge]

Yeah. I just made a painful reset after 8 days. Killing off my time chambers but with the Quark Expansion still far out reach.

But I got Next Level Guidance X now. 5 research chips to put in the lacking Idea gain.

[amber canyon]

Oof. Losing the TC boost will def hurt. Even with the ability to buy new nodes.

(I expect pain when I do my reboot ... Maybe when the Time Crystal maxed out?)

[warm lodge]

I could spend 5 E18 knowledge.

[amber canyon]

Yeah. I think (not entirely sure) I'm nearly at the point where I could buy Knowledge Compressor IV 4 and 5 for 1.1 E19. Quark Expansion is a long way away though.

[strange mica]

from what I gathered, spamming reboots is almost always worth it XD

[median meadow]

Should I really save up for the quark upgrade? It's reccomended but I only save about 1-1.5qi between reboots and I really don't wanna reboot another 350-450 times just for one upgrade

[warm lodge]

I think that the quark expansion will be out of reach for most players until new generators are added in the idea tree.

So saving for it now is probably not a realistic goal

Some players have it but they used/abused bugs in the alpha/beta to have a ridiculously high research level.

[amber canyon]

If you're happy with that play style, yeah.

[median meadow]

I still don't know how people already have it. I have everything unlocked, except 10 of the entropy darwinium upgrades. Everything else and nearly 300 badges. I don't see how another 1000 or so badges can contribute much of a change. Gotta be some autoclickers or something involved because I can't see it being legit

[rain rain]

and some people got tons of chips by accident

[warm lodge]

You can't get it with autoclicking alone. Either by using bugs in the game or direct cheating.

[amber canyon]

There's def some players I trust to be playing legit who have it. And have just done spam reboots.

[warm lodge]

I have had my game autoclicking two nights straight with a full 7 day time chamber and research level 64 and it is still far out of reach.

[inner tapir]

i use autoclicker and reboot spam in conjunction

[median meadow]

Well I don't wanna accuse people of cheating but I can't see how they are so far ahead of me. Even with 2000 badges more than me it won't make much of a difference at this stage of the game

[amber canyon]

But that's just my opinion 🙂. There's a lot of alpha/beta glitched files ported over too though.

[inner tapir]

autoclicker + nanobots + asteroid = 15 seconds of light speed

but otherwise, autoclicker on corner of screen overnight helps too (and speedrunning through a reboot)

[amber canyon]

And lots of reboots!

[inner tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/lots-shaun-of-the-dead-simon-pegg-gif-18696834

[rain rain]

in some cases it's not cheating, just random glitch

[median meadow]

Damn, sucks to be a mobile player lol

[strange mica]

I think it's on par with meso prestige 10 in terms of effort. Maybe worse but in a similar ballpark

[warm lodge]

There are autotappers for mobile as well.

at least on the play store

I got meso prestige 10 in a few days with autclicker and infinity pass.

[median meadow]

Nah, prestige 10 comes quick once you get to prestige 5-6, snowball effect makes you balst through the last prestiges. This grind for the quark expansion is kinda soul sucking.... I'm not even 10% of the way and sick of rebooting already lol

[inner tapir]

quark expansion is nightmare fuel

meso was a nightmare but it was constant linear progress

sort of like raking leaves

[median meadow]

Feels like cheating.but I guess since everyone is doing it

[strange mica]

Well, prestige 10 is the equivalent of rebooting 550 times. Yes each reboot is faster in meso, but not by much (a reality reboot is about 3 minutes).

[warm lodge]

It's allowed by Computerlunch

[inner tapir]

yep my full reality reboot is about 3 minutes flat

[strange mica]

I don't use autotappers. My goal is not to beat others but just to enjoy the game at my own pace

[rain rain]

super meso prestige when?

[amber canyon]

TBF I think the Devs were shocked at how quickly some of us got to RL62. I think they thought it'd take us significantly longer. They underestimated our addiction determination methinks.

[inner tapir]

the pace i like to play with is "unlock everything quickly so that i don't have to worry about it anymore" :p

[inner tapir]

no no, addiction was correct

im just curious how many out there are 65+

i feel like it can't be too many

[strange mica]

"Do it fast so I don't have to play the game anymore" is a weird philosophy to me, but sure

[median meadow]

True, but I also had other stuff to do in the game. Aside from doing an event once every three days, I haven't really got the motivation to keep playing reboot for reboot with nothing knew aside from the odd 0.03% upgrade

[amber canyon]

Me neither. But got no problems with those who do.

[inner tapir]

i juggle different games and they can't get all of my attention all of the time. CTS is my favorite of these kinds admittedly, so I just like to get all the unlocks done so that i can do some other things

[strange mica]

haha my fun is to reverse engineer the mechanics and optimise them to develop strategies for those who do XD

[inner tapir]

and then if all the unlocks are done, when new content comes out, can just pickup from where we left off

[inner tapir]

my fun is perfecting a singularity speedrun during a reboot lol

[amber canyon]

We'll find out when the leaderboards come back up ...

[median meadow]

For me I'm more of a completionist and it bugs me that I dont have "x" or whatever. Think I'm mentally wierd but it stresses me out for some reason

[inner tapir]

we have tee shirts

welcome to the club

[amber canyon]

Do we? I need it! I haven't got it!

[strange mica]

I get it

[inner tapir]

im a staunch completionist

i've also spent a decent amount on the game thus far, so i like to see that it was worth it (to whatever degree you can quantify "being worth it" actually is)

[amber canyon]

When I played things like Zelda or Baldurs Gate, I was opening and looking inside EVERYTHING. Just in case ...

[median meadow]

#🏆-share-your-prestige message

@warm lodge nice going just checked mine and I'm very far from that

Good amount of grinding

[inner tapir]

alright folks, wrapping up work. talk later

[warm lodge]

Ty 🙂

[amber canyon]

Def Impressive!

[warm lodge]

Anyone wants to add some friends? It's nice to see some fellow players in game. If yes, mention your in-game name.

[median meadow]

ReanuKeeves

[amber canyon]

My name is ============== (14 of them - I liked the look of it(

[fluid delta]

Sepheria sepheria

[median meadow]

I can't add you, won't let me input a space

[warm lodge]

Hm, I can only add one friend it seems. I guess it is still bugged.

[fluid delta]

Nono, no spaces, just the one word name. But yes, it seems to be bugged, I can’t add more than 1 either

[median meadow]

I added myself somehow

[amber canyon]

Just discovered that too. Devs said it should be fixed next update. Until then, still only through the event friends I guess (for those who've started the event anyway).

[median meadow]

What does adding friends do?

The only thing noteworthy with my account is I once won one of the photo competitions

[amber canyon]

It means you can see their profile, level and badges. And where they are in the current event (on your tech tree and their science points).

[median meadow]

Oh ok

[amber canyon]

I mainly use it to gauge my progress in events. Until I've unlocked the tree it's hard for me to visualise the end. But a cluster of friends at the end helps.

Also to keep track of how many times each event has been run in total (normal, not beta).

[rapid falcon]

TheMetabits

[amber canyon]

Anyways 💤 time for me. Nice chatting 🙂.

[warm lodge]

I screenshot the chat here and will add friends when the friends list is fixed.

[amber canyon]

Oh! Did you remember to re-buy the Mega volcano? Its next to the archosaur.

Now 💤

[topaz vapor]

That was it! Thank you!

Weird it only shows on the tech tree view though and nowhere else. Easy to miss that way

[desert coral]

Hello guys im finally back i was sick for some days and took a break from the game missed around 2 events

[sudden crystal]

Question - with the new update, is it still optimal to spend darwinium on lv50 diamond geodes? or better to buy upgrades and modules in the primary simulation?

i have 200 darwinium, and i could either buy 2 diamond geodes or a 200 darwinium module

[hollow marsh]

Honestly probably save darwinium at this point - this last rollout gave a lot more things to spend darwinium on.

Does anybody know what 'Propagation Capacitor' is referring to by giving a bonus to idea efficiency 'for each life'

[median meadow]

Where on the tree is that?

[hollow marsh]

Idea tree near the top left (just left of center) - also not sure how I have it on Android as it looks like it costs more than I currently have but it is filled in ....

[median meadow]

According to my tree I have 34601 of whatever "life" is. Let me see if I can work out what it is

[hollow marsh]

Woah! I have way less than that

[median meadow]

So it turns out it's any animals

[hollow marsh]

Also note how it costs more than you have - same for me - which is interesting

[median meadow]

Every 10 animals/life forms you buy

Damn I just clocked on to that

[hollow marsh]

ah good call - my count is actually close to yours! I misremembered

[median meadow]

I think the price must be mislabeled

Because the quark expansion is 500 qi and that's easily the most expensive/hardest upgrade to get imo

[thin notch]

Hmm there's a lot of empty upgrades node in my Ideas tree

[rough axle]

futue updatews

grr

[azure turtle]

lol

[rough axle]

at least it pinged me this time

[thin notch]

? What was it?

[azure turtle]

Automod

[rough axle]

moderation bot resetting my nickname because it stated wit ha parenthase

[thin notch]

But it's still ancient age one?

[azure turtle]

I'm curious if I'm immune to it

[rough axle]

could also be stuff locked behind a research level

[azure turtle]

Test

huh

[fluid delta]

it's mislabeled for you, for some weird reason. Idea Speed Booster increases Simulation Speed

[fluid delta]

No, the price is accurate. It gets higher. While Quark Expansion is probably the most expensive single purchase on the tree, if you count nodes where you have to complete 100 or whatever of that node to go to the next one, then it is not.

[median meadow]

If I had bought this at 30.00 sx then I wouldn't have had to grind 500 reboots to get the quark upgrade?

[fluid delta]

That node is labelled right, but no, other nodes affect your idea multiplier much more

Look under "Idea Multiplier" in your Current Stats

[median meadow]

I'm trying to say it did not cost me 30 sx to buy this upgrade, but that's what it's listing itself as

Don't k ow if anyone else can confirm or if it's just my game

[fluid delta]

That price of 30 Sx is correct. Quark Expansion is 500 Qi... or at least that's what my game is telling me

[azure turtle]

Probably a countermeasure so you can't buy one more (Since that was an issue with autoclickers, you could buy more upgrades than the limit, but only if you had enough iirc)

[fluid delta]

.. and you're right, 30 CC doesn't make sense. Hmm.

I assume it's a display bug

[median meadow]

I would never have been able to afford it if the price was 30 sextillion. I barely have 30 quintillion lol

I've reported, hopefully they don't raise the price to 30 sx lmao that would be horrible

[fluid delta]

heh. I don't remember if that was a compound node like Idea Speed Booster III is, for instance. Maybe that was an aggregate price, on Propagation Capacitor? Idk.... no, wait, it isn't, the tooltip would show otherwise. So idk. It's got to be a display bug, nothing else makes sense.

[languid ruin]

got meso to 4 as of now, and also grinding the event.

[rain junco]

So close to 30,000, but not quite there

[languid ruin]

hellroad update:
got 100 metabits on 1st reset. gonna aim for 1000 (maybe even 10,000 is possible??)

message sent before image, lol

[fiery wing]

go for it

what does hellroad mean

[rain junco]

Were roles reset?

[cyan barn]

Why do some planets glow purple in Beyond? I don’t recall a pop up explaining this mechanic

[clever sierra]

Show example?

[fluid delta]

mine are still there, so, no

[main kernel]

uh you cant just aim for stuff randomly
check upgrades and see if theres a big one that is close

[rain junco]

Oh well, guess I'll have to resubmit

[inner tapir]

it's an occasional increased payout if you click on it once it turns purple

[inner tapir]

added

[median meadow]

#🏆-share-your-prestige message

@rain junco damn crazy good stats. How did you level fast I only just hit 65 and slowing down to a crawl.

[rain junco]

Thanks! A few combined things, played for years, no problem buying some of the permanent powerups, but most importantly, a lot of reset spamming when the update dropped

Those builds are terrible for long-term growth, but really helps build up metabits

Also, the Idea Time Chambers keep growing up to at least 100x as your current simulation time increases

[median meadow]

Idea time chambers?

[rain junco]

Yes, they are 3 reality nodes you can get (if you are level 65, you probably have them already)

[median meadow]

Probably lol. Dont have much left to get but they are all so expensive

[loud mortar]

do yall think theyre gonna reduce the amount of darwinium for the upgrades in the prim sim? they cost like 4000 ish alone

its outrageous for f2p

[rain junco]

It's probably fair, you can get at least 8 free darwinium per day, and most players on the high end have been playing for at least 2+ years, not to mention the free ones you occasionally get from Beyond + Mezo

[loud mortar]

mesozoic is the go to for darwinium

you just gotta pray for drops

[rain junco]

Beyond has drops too

[loud mortar]

yes, but i maxxed it so i dont find it much enjoyable to grind

[nocturne schooner]

@languid ruin how did you get your screen to be like that? desktop?

[languid ruin]

Its a term i got from another game (CIFI). Basically means that instead of optimizing a currency amount per prestige layer reset, you optimize the prestige layer reset to get it low

[languid ruin]

Lol good timing, yes, steam

[languid ruin]

Example

Instead of getting an upgrade that you usually get at 10th reset if you follow guides, you get that upgrade in 2nd reset by waiting and pushing a lot

[languid ruin]

Hm?
Im not aiming for stuff randomly

Its called patience and dedication

[fallow anchor]

How do I get the reality legend role

[languid ruin]

What was that

[fallow anchor]

Scam?

[fallow anchor]

I remember that I had it before I left

[inner tapir]

yeah im pretty regimented with getting to login every 4-5 hours and collect all the free stuff from beyond/meso, as well as the 2x free white stars (infinity pass) and the 5x explorations every day (2 more white, 3 red). i collect probably close to 15 a day with all that

[nocturne schooner]

@languid ruin thank you for the desktop steam mode...now i wont kill my phone so much

[inner tapir]

if anyone wants to fill up their friends list, feel free to add and post your own so others can add too

[languid ruin]

Np

[fluid delta]

I don’t see a new update to allow that yet?

[warm lodge]

Added.

[inner tapir]

you can go into your main menu->click your profile->click the middle tab->top left add friend button

i've seen that there for a long time but i've never added anyone (until fox before)

it's cool how it lets you see your friends' progress

[warm lodge]

@rose slate in #🏆-share-your-prestige Wow, 761 days on the counter. That's wildly impressive. Do you keep the game open on your PC all the time?

[fluid delta]

it only lets you have one, bc the bug that's present.. but, someone said earlier (scroll up) that that's supposed to be fixed for the next update?

[inner tapir]

oh damn, didn't see that

[oblique fable]

#1008130971201191987 how

[rain junco]

Is the time counter how long you've played, or how long you've had the game open?

Mine says 90 days, but I've been playing for at least 2 and a half years (and some time in 2020)

[terse vigil]

-# been feelin' a little flat.

[rough axle]

Gathering data

[azure compass]

i think i reached a big wall (1Svg entropy, 1Vg ideas per second) (600T metabits, 50B knowledge per reset) so i went to my pc and made a prestige macro (hopefully thats not illegal) to get tons of metabits and knowledge overnight

[warm lodge]

Enjoying some Quality Art in the Museum.

[frosty vale]

I have a diamond geode and a blue star from a event ages ago. Is it worth it to open them now, on rank 21 Mesozoic and episode 10?

[desert flax]

I think reality reboot caused inflation

[warm lodge]

Diamond geode: Wait until level 50 or prestige level 50. Then it will give MUCH more cards. Opening it now is a waste.

Blue star: Yes, open it now. It will speed up things a lot in the Beyond.

Here you can see how dramatically different the results are of opening diamond geodes at level 50 and low level:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNxhavQDLCY

Prestige does not matter for the geodes. So level 50 yields the same as prestige level 50.

[desert flax]

guys do I pull the cord (aka upgrade the sim)

I'm at a roadblock

got Amphibian, what now?