💬-cells-chat

[fluid delta]

yeah, I do hear that the new stuff is pretty buggy, but idk how true that is, I stay away from the beta channels

[desert coral]

5,000-6,700

[fluid delta]

That's it? Ok, something is very much wrong. Did you finish Primary? How much Beyond, Meso, Events/badges have you done?

... though I have a suspicion I know what it is.. but I will wait for your answer

[tender condor]

I slept on those for a while lol but it adds up like crazy

Love both dinos and space, sad I waited

[desert coral]

On beyond I'm only at 5 cuz I actually started playing around a week ago so this is only my 2nd event

And at meso at 16 rn

[desert pebble]

While not on Beta... yeah, it's just normal for a game to have A LOT of bugs, especially on updates that add, or overhaul, a massive amount of content

[fluid delta]

oh? then you are doing great for just a week!

[desert coral]

The only things missing in primary is the stuff with logits

[fluid delta]

except I'm not sure it's that much? But we'll see. I've stayed partly uninformed on purpose, for spoilers mainly

[desert pebble]

That's really fast actually

[desert coral]

I was mainly focusing on meso and primary and started the beyond around 2-3 days ago

[fluid delta]

So you've gotten to.. actually, not sure how to hide spoilers in here, one sec while i look it up

[desert coral]

Alr

[fluid delta]

Have you gotten past ||Singularity||? If yes, have you gotten to ||Martian City||?

[desert coral]

I have finished everything with the ideas

[karmic quest]

Two | on either side of your message, no spaces

[fluid delta]

yes, so I saw

[desert pebble]

Same, but, well, they are just redoing the entire main progression system of the game, plus adding a new branch to the animal tree, and tweaking the |Scientific Revolution| area

[karmic quest]

Whoops, I twas bit slow on that message!

[fluid delta]

ah ok, more than I realized actually. I hope they take the time to get it largely bug-free.

[desert pebble]

Yeah

[desert pebble]

||test||

Is censored to you?

[fluid delta]

hmm. then have you gotten any of the artifacts (stuff on Primary screen that costs Darwinium or Logits)?

(and usually looks like green.. shadows? of objects, not sure how to describe)

[desert coral]

Nope those are the things that I didn't buy

[desert pebble]

Got it now

[fluid delta]

that's probably part of what's holding you back. Artifacts on the creatures part opens up new sub-trees, and artifacts on the ideas side adds big multipliers on the ideas part.. and as you do Beyond/Meso/Events those will feed into the multipliers you already have activated in Reality Engine.

[desert pebble]

Fungus and Giant Squid early help a lot

[fluid delta]

Good to know. Been a while since I did that part, so I forget

[desert coral]

I have 84 logits and 124 darwinium what should I buy?

[fluid delta]

not sure. The wiki likely says but ofc will be spoilery. Others who have done it more recently probably have a better idea than me.

doing events earns Logits. You can get 6 free DW every day (by doing the thing on the screen there) + 25 every 2 weeks for free from the dailies. Other content will also give you some. It adds up

(and ofc you can buy it directly from the store)

[desert pebble]

I think Middle-Ages and Renaissance artifacts

[fluid delta]

(don't buy it directly from the store, get a month of infinity pass instead, you get some "free" with that)

[desert coral]

right now I need 16 more logits so should I just wait until giant squid?

[desert coral]

Im early onto the game right now I dont wanna spend money

I will at some point

[uneven panther]

Yeah for me I've never spent money in the game

[desert pebble]

Absolutely

[desert pebble]

Same

[karmic quest]

Yup!

[desert coral]

Alright thank you so much guys

[uneven panther]

I even have all 19 Achievments on Steam, and am probably close to finishing the Beyond/Space part

[desert pebble]

Maybe if you want, Capybara is also pretty good (Inproves Glires)

[desert coral]

Oh another quick question so on mobile you can get the supporter badges by watching ads and I want to collect all of them but not sure how mamy ads I have to watch to get them

[karmic quest]

At least..... I think 5 or 10 for the first????

[desert pebble]

To be honest, I don't know. I just watched a lot of ads to improve production, and eventually got all 3

[karmic quest]

Man, it's been so long since I got them, I don't remember

[desert pebble]

First and second are rather quick

The third tough

Hundreds of ads possibly

[desert coral]

Could be

[karmic quest]

Oh definitely. I've watched at least 100 of them by now, and I still don't have the third one

[desert coral]

Oh wow

[karmic quest]

To be fair, I've been ignoring the game for a while, since I got bored of it

Given that I've been playing since around the time it first came out on early access, it's hard to feel interested right now

[uneven panther]

Yeah for me I got bored after some time too

I did come back like right in time for Beta though

[fluid delta]

Well this is suggestive. Beginning of December methinks!!
#🗣-cells-socials message

[karmic quest]

Indeed, how interesting

[desert pebble]

2° to 3° week of December it seems to indicate

Definitely are preparing for Reality Reboot

[desert pebble]

Looked over again, and for civilization artifacts, focus on Exploration and Middle Ages, respectively

Expensive, but definitely the best

[amber canyon]

Iirc I think you'll struggle to take advantage of giant squid, unless you have Capybara (and the nodes that are associated with it).

Your progress of top generators should be Feliforms to Glires (using Capybara) to Jellyfish (using Giant Squid).

You might need to progress in Meso (because if what that unlocks) at some point before / in the above chain.

[desert pebble]

Analyzed the last diary dev diary, and they will definitely expand ||Scientific Revolution|| (sorry if drawing is rough)

[prime vale]

everything i know is that there will be ||uraniborg|| next to ||scientific revolution||

atleast it was like that in ||alpha||

then it got disabled in ||beta||

[desert pebble]

Yeah, and will be a ||trophy node||

[prime vale]

yea

also it will be a ||major glitch||

[desert pebble]

Probably bought with Logits

[prime vale]

no

ideas

it will be like the ||major glitch nodes|| for previous idea generators

which upgrades the generator by alot and unlocks new upgrades

[desert pebble]

Metabits then? ||or whatever the new prestigecurrency is called||

[prime vale]

.

it will be able to be bought with ideas

[desert pebble]

Oh yeah, after you buy it in the Logit Terminal

[prime vale]

no

its a ||major glitch node||

u unlock it by reaching certain ||research level||

[amber canyon]

Huh. After Maths, now skipping over Music, Bees, Money, Tea, Fungus, and Cheese in the 'normal' order.

Not bad, just interesting.

[prime vale]

then buy with ideas

[desert pebble]

Oooohhh

NOW I get it

The new progression

[prime vale]

this is what it will look like

and maybe some upgrades

[fluid delta]

well, we know it’s semi-random. I’m sure they have their own logic for it

[dreamy echo]

idk if someone mentioned but from this image it looks like reboot is in about a week

about 9 days that is

[fluid delta]

the distortion gets stronger as the days progress so i think more likely early to mid-december

[junior verge]

I was thinking about optimal geode opening times, you want to open near the 50th extinction because you can only get cards for certain rare and epic traits once they appear, but do any new cards actually appear after like 40-something?

What would be the point of waiting until 50?

[fluid delta]

that’s not in mine. probably some asset didn’t load. quit and relaunch.

[amber canyon]

Check out https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Geodes for the reward variation by level.

[junior verge]

Thank you this stuff just all confuses me but I’m trying to kind of iron out the details, great resource will check it out

[amber canyon]

Higher level = more mutagen + more cards.

There's a fair amount of subtlety in the game that isn't immediately obvious 🙂.

[junior verge]

Ah okay so it’s more about getting more cards and mutagen than actually getting any new types of cards, past a certain level (40-something)

Is it similar with Beyond?

[amber canyon]

Have we pointed you towards the Meso guide in the Semblance channel / help yet?

[amber canyon]

For Dark Matter and normal trait cards - yes.
For constellation fragments, Darwinium, silver and gold traits cards - no.

https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Galactic_Nursery

[junior verge]

I’m not sure 😅

[gray yew]

If this means that I think it means, will the reboot affect the events? Or is it just a calendar design?

[junior verge]

I think they just incorporated a bit of a hint/teaser into the calendar

[gray yew]

Also just noticed it’s now “ocean” insteada “deep sea” or “deep ocean”

[gray yew]

Oh okay cool

[junior verge]

That’s my assumption

[amber canyon]

I saw that, thought I was going crazy ...

[gray yew]

Prolly just design
Prolly

[fluid delta]

#📓-dev-diary states Reality Engine and Primary only, and stuff bought with Logits or Darwinium will remain bought.

[amber canyon]

I think they added one change to Meso. A usability one ||'Buy Smart'||.

[gray yew]

I thought that was already there

[gray yew]

Oh okay cool

[amber canyon]

Is it? I don't remember it when I was Meso-ing. Maybe they added it since then.

[gray yew]

Hm. Maybe it’s just me. I’ll check in a bit.

I need to Meso progress anyway.

[rugged stone]

What is meso btw im new

[amber canyon]

Might've been ||'Buy round'||. Idk ... Wasn't payinguch attention.

[gray yew]

Mesozoic Valley. Welcome, by the way.

[amber canyon]

Hi new person!

It's one of the 3 main simulations in the game. You can unlock it quite early on when playing through the primary simulation. It's where the dinosaurs live. Or not ...

[gray yew]

Well, it’s where they live when ||they’re not being blown to bits by asteroid No. God-knows.||

[amber canyon]

Play Cells to Singularity: commit species-cide regularly and kill all the things.

😁

[terse vigil]

archosaurs are on sale

[dreamy echo]

it means they cheated

where's the third ping it told me three pings

who ghost pinged me

[fluid delta]

oh? interesting! i’ll remember that

it probably was me, i posted, immediately deleted, then reposted with what i really meant to say 🙂 sorries!

[dreamy echo]

a

yk usually better to just edit tbh

same effect and no worries about ghost ping

i usually only delete if it refuses to send and wouldn't reply on restarting the app, or i sent the wrong image

[rugged stone]

How can I accept friend request in the event?

[fluid delta]

I usually do. I also thought that deleting it would remove the ping for you. Idk it wouldn't. Now I know! ty!

[dreamy echo]

oh alr

[rough surge]

Whens the big update

[fluid delta]

probably in about a month. Computer Lunch is certainly hinting that way

[unkempt birch]

im playing c2s for first time after 3 years 😄 (and btw how much tetrapods do you need for archosauria)

[terse vigil]

huh.
it's displaying a false score.
are there similar cases in #1010249890414202880 ? too lazy to check

could just go ahead and report this...

[fluid delta]

That's normal. I think? Not sure why.

Either way, I expect it'll change with the revamp soon anyway

[terse vigil]

sure, missing out on 2 cubes won't be a big deal

[fluid delta]

besides, beta is buggy rn, maybe it is a bug! you'd have to ask there to know

[primal wasp]

Is it worth joining the beta?

[fluid delta]

it depends: do you like playing an incomplete and/or buggy part of the game? also: we are close to release of the next feature.. so, I suspect the answer is "no". Plus, it's a one-way trip unless you take some precautions.. you could mess with it on a 2nd account though, that's the safe way

[sinful delta]

another factor is do you want to get new features before they release

wait

[sinful delta]

wait you already said that nvm

[primal wasp]

Thank you.

[primal wasp]

Thank you.

[rugged stone]

How to accept a friend request

Im new and i dont know

[amber canyon]

In the Cells game, 'friends' are more like 'following'. If someone friends you, you don't see it, or anything.

[rugged stone]

So basically we can add each other and see like a friend?

[amber canyon]

Yup!

If you want to see my stuff (I'm end game), I think you look for ==============

(that's 14 of them)

[zealous horizon]

Where is the reality reboot? 🙁

[amber canyon]

Ah, the teaser info went a few weeks ago. Looks like it's soon though: https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/706102474821468182 .

My prediction is it'll start when Extinction finishes (I think the Devs would find that funny).

[timid gyro]

Is there a way to disable the delayed 'spend 2 darwinium to double offline gains' it has happened multiple times that I clicked to upgrade something and lost 2 darwinium... it's getting extremely egregious

[tepid brook]

So will the updates and changes in beta be finalized and intergrated in alpha over time?

[frigid grove]

will completing coolmathgames version give any special rewards?

[amber canyon]

No. Agree it can be annoying though.

[amber canyon]

Alpha is dead. It is unlikely there'll be a new alpha unless there's another similarly sized update. Testing new content will continue in beta, most likely.

[tepid brook]

I see

[amber canyon]

Doubt it. Looks like a dodgy clone.

[frigid grove]

rip

[amber canyon]

There was a Cells Roblox game that is now disabled. If it's a clone of that, you might get the code to enter in the main game and get the achievement.

[frigid grove]

yeah i tried and it was diabled
someone said the code was ||beagle|| though

[amber canyon]

In caps, yes.

[prime vale]

is there any way to play the old cell to singularity alpha where dinosaurs were in testing (image below)

the oldest cell to singularity version i could find is from 2022

[amber canyon]

You're probably best asking in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/545344551095894028 . Someone might have a version saved. Likely only a Steam player? Seems unlikely for a mobile player to have it anyway.

[desert coral]

Super late response bc I fell asleep so I should buy the artifacts that boost exploration and middle ages right?

[amber canyon]

They'll almost certainly end up as your main idea generation (exploration more so), with iron Age 3rd.

[reef roost]

should i buy giant squid or extinction

[amber canyon]

Check the pinned comments for the what to buy with Logits guide.

[chrome isle]

I did the math with my calculator and apparently, to buy everything in the augment shop with logits, you'll need abt 3.750 logits

LESS GOOOOO

[prime vale]

?

oh you reached a new rank

nice

[chrome isle]

I just completed the event!

[desert pebble]

Yeah, but it's best to focus on one thing at a time, due to all these artifacts costing Logits, so... focus first on Glires and Giant Squid respectively, then go to Exploration and Middle Ages, because there are a LOT of artifacts for them

Each boosting different amounts, like one might boost 500%, while another boosts 7000%

It's much more, but you get it

Honestly, you are more likely to finish first the slog that is the First prestige of Mesozoic and all current levels of Beyond (around 28), than get all these artifacts, the last six or so are all 150 each

[steel pebble]

is this good?

[steel pebble]

isnt neolithic good too?

[junior verge]

Apropos of nothing, but does the low/high quality setting just change frame rate/animation smoothness?

The graphics look the same, best I can tell

[sturdy folio]

What does this do, i bought them but i dont feel any difference whatsoever

Which speed does it increase, the primary simulation speed?

[junior verge]

Yes the primary sim, I think you have to reboot in order for the effect to apply? But I’m not entirely sure

[sturdy folio]

Ive bought it a few weeks ago, never felt any change

[amber canyon]

D'know. I know it saves battery. Maybe visual quality change might be more visible on a bigger screen than a phone.

[junior verge]

If you don’t have a lot of Mesozoic completions it might not be noticeable, but if you have a fair amount and have rebooted you should see an appreciable jump in metabits

[fluid delta]

Yes, you do

[fluid delta]

That seems like a rather odd name to choose. I’m guessing you were bored?

[amber canyon]

It looked nice on this screen. That was the entirety of my thinking.

[dense harbor]

wow we got some new players

that's somehow surprising

[amber canyon]

<@&535129309648781332> adverts (AkbarRezael)

[azure turtle]

Are they?

[primal stump]

@oak cosmos please avoid random content

[azure turtle]

Those are quests from discord so... Yeah

[primal stump]

discord missions

[primal stump]

yes, quests

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[fluid delta]

Ugh, not fond of Discord trying to monetize.

[sudden crystal]

reality reboot release tease??

[gray yew]

I got it too, just yesterday

[amber canyon]

Huh. I got a different one yesterday.

[gentle arch]

Is the alpha closed now? Google play says not available in my country

[amber canyon]

Alpha shut down a bit ago.

Beta is still around and testing reality reboot stuff. D'know if you'd get in in time before it releases, but https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1200105190896975902

[gentle arch]

Thanks, just hopped back into the game a few days ago. I stopped playing because I completed all content at the time but now there is a lot more to do

[fluid delta]

You'll get the one Ace mentions today. I say that bc I got the one you got yesterday, and I just got this new one today. I guess that means we'll get daily tease + DW as a reward? 🙂

[fluid delta]

indeed! though one reason to stay in, even if you're at endgame, are the event badges, since you can only get 6/week, and they benefit everything.

[sudden crystal]

Yes I got this yesterday as well

[primal osprey]

What exactly is this based of? I dont think its achievements

[fluid delta]

Probably your simulation score, but it's also meaningless. I think it'll have to change after the revamp next month anyway.

[primal osprey]

What is simulation score based of i mean

[fluid delta]

Your progress in all of the game. As to the actual formula for it, we don't know.

[amber canyon]

Go to the 3 bars menu at top right to open the 'about you' (LH image). Click on your score, it'll show you the breakdown (RH image).

Idk how it's built up, but believe I'm maxed on all but primary (which creeps up slowly as I earn metabits).

[chrome isle]

WHAT IS HAPPENING??

[amber canyon]

Teasers for the Reality Reboot update most likely.

Unless the cat got to the keyboard again.

[chrome isle]

Oh ok

[primal osprey]

that is obvious, the main question is how its calculated

[amber canyon]

Looks like it 🙂. It's a race between the Devs getting the update out and me getting to 3k DW. For me anyway. I have 2,882 ... And not getting the daily rewards for nearly 2 weeks.

[amber canyon]

I didn't realise you knew you could see the breakdown. Your message read as if you didn't know anything about it.

[fluid delta]

You can do iiiiiit! 🙂

(and ofc if you really had to, you can always make up the difference with a month of Infinity Pass 🙂 )

[amber canyon]

I will try very hard to reach a self-imposed goal. That won't matter much if I don't meet it 😁.

[fluid delta]

fair enough!! 128 DW is achievable in 4 weeks, I think? I hope?

[junior verge]

25 darwinium next daily reward!

Hype

Man competition is fierce in this event I’ve invested so much time now that I think I’ll use time warps to place top ten

It’s crazy how competitive it can be

[fluid delta]

heh if only! But I really doubt they would ever do that. Time warps tho... that usually doesn't make sense, but I get what you mean.. if you want to, ofc go for it

[junior verge]

It is for me! Not for everyone?

[fluid delta]

oh, I misunderstood, I thought you meant 25 DW every day. The 25DW/2 weeks is normal

[junior verge]

Ah okay 😄

[junior verge]

Idk how people seem to get top ten so easily the competition is really fierce I’m in division 160-ish I think

[fluid delta]

I'm still hoping that they do that 15 min of Infinity Pass daily reward again.. but I think you only ever see that once.

[junior verge]

I can’t see top ten without some last second warps

[junior verge]

That was really nice

[fluid delta]

I'm Div #203 this time (started a few hours ago). Top 10 easy, probably 🙂

[junior verge]

I’ve been checking in so many times a day and I’m fighting for my life to stay #12

[fluid delta]

yeah it can be like that sometimes

[junior verge]

I did start a day ago or so

[karmic quest]

I don't think I ever reached top 100, but I also only care about getting the badges. Which has gotten incredibly harder with the newer events.

[fluid delta]

badges are the important thing, for sure. idk about the events getting harder, I hadn't noticed that, personally

[karmic quest]

Cats, infections, math, etc. I can't really get anything past the first badge. Last one I got all the badges for (besides Cryptids) was rocks.

All the ones after either tea or music got much harder for me to get through.

[fluid delta]

How often do you jump in and out of the game (or keep it running?).. and do you have the 4x ad boost active? (assuming mobile)

[karmic quest]

Yes mobile, I usually do the full boost I can get (by ads) and I usually pop in and out at random

Since it is an idle game, I don't feel compelled to stay logged in for long amounts of time

[amber canyon]

So you've set up the x4 ad boost right? But you haven't got many (any?) badges from the same event yet?

You prob worked this out, but it really is starting after the first rush (maybe wait 12h-24h?) opening the event as often as you can as and doing the X2 offline ad reward (you can do this as often as every 3 mins I think, but you'll need more badges for there to be any point doing that I think).

As soon as you get in, set any nanobots off. Then (almost always) buy any upgrade you can. Then buy whichever generator is most effective (it's usually fairly obvious, but e.g. for events with multiple currencies there's usually one that's gonna be useful for the next upgrade, the others are distracting). And remember to scroll down in case something's boosted an earlier generator. Leave the event. Repeat.

I also picked my start time to maximise the time I can play it, relative to others in my div. So, not just before bed. Iirc, when I didn't have many badges 24-48 hours before the end was a good time to start.

I don't know how using auto-clickers would affect the strat, but they are allowed by word of Dev.

P.S. and be careful during the ||Extinction|| event. Don't ||fall into the trap||. At least, ||only fall for it once||.

[fluid delta]

Ok.. and it's the 4x boost, not 2x, right? blue text instead of green? It's easy to overlook, I did for the longest time.

[junior verge]

Cats no but infections and math are the only ones I haven’t finished, and I tried several times! Didn’t realize they were more recent, but definitely harder than average

[fluid delta]

As soon as you get in, set any nanobots off.
Ok this I actually disagree with. Better to use it strategically within the time you're in-game. That's how I do it, anyway
and be careful during the Extinction event.
Heh.. that gets us all at least once. 🙂

(some events are wierd)

[amber canyon]

You could be right with nanobots. I don't tend to stay in the event very long though.

[karmic quest]

Well it's all relative to when you first started the game. Yeah, those events have been running for quite a while, but they are newer compared to like, Webb and such

[junior verge]

Thanks, some great advice here! I have done this event several times before, in fact it’s my biggest boost I think, at 70%. I usually buy the most effective generators till I can’t, then buy a good mix if the remaining ones for more Science. Also what is the trap with ||extinction||, is it hitting the ||extinction|| before ||buying all the generators you can||?

[amber canyon]

It Def feels like the newer events are more meaty. But I have fewer badges for those. And while I do keep track of how quickly I complete events, I'm often working or otherwise distracted so can't compare like for like.

[junior verge]

I remember infections being fairly old and math being pretty new, I don’t have the order memorized tho, is it actually the same order as the badges in game are shown (minus cryptid)?

[fluid delta]

order is semi-random. It follows the order in game only sometimes. It jumps around.

[karmic quest]

No, I think it's closer to alphabetical, but I've not paid it much attention

[junior verge]

I just meant release order not active event order 😄

[karmic quest]

Not till I needed the info for my roles here anyways 😅

Looks like dairy is first, though it's the newest event

[junior verge]

Ah okay

[fluid delta]

Same difference unless I misunderstood you? But either way, we don't know the order we get the events, except where CL announces them a bit in advance, as they often do

[junior verge]

I meant like in-game when you see your badges at the bottom, I thought they were in release order (besides cryptids which is always at bottom) but apparently not

[amber canyon]

This is the age/order (wiki), and the number of times run (deduced by me). So yeah, how many badges others might have is something to consider too.

[junior verge]

Awesome data

Yeah I just checked and it actually does seem to be listed in release order in-game in the badges section, I’m probably just badly communicating what I mean haha

[amber canyon]

A year ago, I was wondering all the things you are 🙂.

[karmic quest]

Bless you, KF, for this data 🙏

[amber canyon]

You're welcome!

The badge boost does tail off as per #📓-dev-diary message . So e.g. you won't be playing against loads of people with more than 300% boost.

[fluid delta]

Semblance seems to be having some sort of issues today... #🗣-cells-socials message I can't think why!! 😛

[amber canyon]

Yes. Specifically the ||LUCA|| you need. I fell for it 😁.

[amber canyon]

@karmic quest Cells social noticed you wondering about hints of the secrets! (Maybe).

[gray yew]

That reminds me: I gotta make that glitch fanart

[karmic quest]

Lol, I actually found that one! And the coin, and the dog. I heard there was a cat, but I can't find it.

[fluid delta]

heh could be

[amber canyon]

There was a ||civilisation|| that ||revered cats wasn't there||?

[fluid delta]

Yes. yes there was.

[karmic quest]

That does remind me, I did find the pharaoh as well!

[gray yew]

Pharoah nice!

badum tss

[amber canyon]

You checked the Augmentation Console for a relevant purchase for the cat one, right?

[karmic quest]

Yup! I have all but two, which need darwinium to get. Silk road and uh ... I forget the other. But both cost 85 to get

[gray yew]

gl!

[proud berry]

I... do not understand.

[fluid delta]

That.. is being alive.

(ofc if you literally are talking about the conversation above, please clarify what you don't understand)

[gray yew]

gl means “good luck”

[steel pebble]

is this good?

also do i get neolithic, exploration or middle ages augmentations first?

[desert pebble]

I find these Beyond Trophies almost useless, the only one I think is somewhat worth it is Voyager 1

[brazen junco]

[desert pebble]

Because they only affect the first episodes

[amber canyon]

The ISS? Up to you. Are you at a point where its boost would increase your production? Or do you want to see it in your trees.

[desert pebble]

And after 13, you are solely dependent on ad boost, cards and upgrades

While there is 28 episodes (that will become 30 total don't know how long after Reality Reboot)

Basically, will help a lot in the beginning, but will soon become meaningless after you advance enough, unlike the Main Simulation and Mesozoic Trophies

[amber canyon]

I personally quite like it in the garden in combination with ||doughnut Earth||

[desert pebble]

These cosmetics for Earth make the camera focus again on it?

[amber canyon]

Re the civilisation upgrades, idk.

There is a pinned comment covering what to buy with Logits, but it doesn't go as far as those.

I do know that - in the current version (the Reality Reboot may be different):
A) most of your metabits production comes from entropy, not ideas.
B) Exploration, then Middle Ages will end up being the things that produce most ideas (but you might need to bootstrap there with Neolithic).

Sorry.

[amber canyon]

Focus on Earth rather than what?

I didn't have any cosmetics active on the LH image afaik.

[steel pebble]

im on 11

[desert pebble]

It focus on Mars after you unlock the rover in main simulation, like the first image

[steel pebble]

idrk know what to go

my main simulation isnt really progressing

[desert pebble]

But with donut earth it seems to focus on it again

[humble lark]

what is this guys?

[amber canyon]

Likely a teaser for the Reality Reboot.

[gray yew]

Semblance is getting ready for the big reboot.

[gray yew]

neat innit

[amber canyon]

It's hard to give advice because you haven't told/shown us anything about your primary sim or Reality Engine purchases/stats.

You may need to progress in Meso, to unlock useful things in primary. You may need to reboot your reality engine if your metabit multiplier has grown or if you can buy things. You may need to buy more of some generators (sometimes getting 100 unlocks things), or make sure you're buying the most effective ones.

[gray yew]

FINALLY

[amber canyon]

Whooo! Pull up a chair and join us at the end.

You noticed it looks like an eye? It's staring at us ... 👀

[gray yew]

THE EYE OF SAURON
wait i mean
THE EYE OF ||QUASAR||

[amber canyon]

"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you." Nietzsche

[gray yew]

yikes

[amber canyon]

I know, right! I put a quote in, in translation and didn't put the original in.

I thought it might break the rules. And wasn't sure the Deutsch channel would appreciate me appearing, dropping that in there, then leaving.

[gray yew]

ive seen it on the tv tropes page i believe

[thin forum]

Guys

[gray yew]

yas?

[thin forum]

I'm stuck at level 6 of a beyond level

For 4 days-

[gray yew]

Hm. Well, that's pretty normal for the beyond.

I call it the "slow phase". You'll get out of it eventually, then the rest of that level won't be so slow.

[gray yew]

Just keep waiting, I guess.
Or try your luck with the red dwarves. You might get lucky and get a good/great booster.

[thin forum]

My Saturn gives every 20 mins 22Qi

But when I leave game

And rejoin

After hours

It doesn't give me anything

It's a bug or snth

[amber canyon]

You can spend your stardust iirc. It's counting up how much you collect, not how much you have.

Does that help?

[thin forum]

Ima try

[amber canyon]

I think that is supposed to happen if it's not automated ... But if it is it sounds like a bug.

[halcyon galleon]

Who knows how to get this two nodes

[amber canyon]

One of the Augmentation Console buys.

[thin forum]

Well

It's not automated

My money does not change

I join back and it doesn't give me anything

After like 20 hours I joined

I only got 1 qi

While I should have been given like 200Qi

Bcz every 20 mins it's 22 Qi

[amber canyon]

So - because it isn't automated - it won't produce stardust if you're offline.

[thin forum]

And how to automate it

[gray yew]

You'll need the "Automate and Speed Up" card.

[thin forum]

Because everything else gives me

[gray yew]

If you complete missions (and open stars), you should get it automatically, at some point or another.

[thin forum]

You mean thisM

???

If yes then it's automated

[gray yew]

I don't speak whatever language that is, but if it says "Automate and Speed Up", then it should be automated.

[amber canyon]

Each generator has two 'Normal' trait card types:
A) automate and speed up
B) double

[thin forum]

I already automated it then

It must be a bug

[gray yew]

If you click on it, it'll tell you which one it is.

[thin forum]

Ye it's automated

Like 4 days ago

It's just a bug

Maybe if I reset universe when I rebirth

Then maybe it will fix

Ima try

When I complete missions

[gray yew]

gl

[thin forum]

Also a question how much does Blue Star give cards

[gray yew]

<@&535129309648781332>
we got some scam stuff happening

[primal stump]

!ban 956564417380769803 crypto scammer

[bright otter]

Banned gustavusadolphus1612 (Case #4025) (user notified with a direct message)

[primal stump]

thanks

[gray yew]

yw

[azure turtle]

Dang it

[amber canyon]

It varies - https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Galactic_Nursery

[thin forum]

How to unlock advanced stars

I only have stars

[amber canyon]

Progress to Stage 2 generators. Episode 19 maybe?

[thin forum]

What's the max level in beyond

[fluid delta]

28, at present. 30 in future

[thin forum]

Is there SMTH after Terra forming Mars or SMTH will be added?

[amber canyon]

Now - 28. Soon - 30. Longer term - probably more (but 'prestiges', like Meso Valley).

[gray yew]

SMTH?

[thin forum]

Yea

Somethinh

Something

[gray yew]

ah
ive usually seen it spelt as
smthn

[thin forum]

Is there something after Terraforming mars

[gray yew]

No.

[amber canyon]

Soon there will be a big update of the Primary Simulation and the Reality Engine. We don't know exactly what it will include.

[thin forum]

Bcz I'm at 81% of the simulation

[thin forum]

When?

[gray yew]

In a week, maybe two weeks.

[amber canyon]

Soon. Maybe early December?

[thin forum]

FINALLY

I AM AT BEYOND LEVEL 7

[gray yew]

Prolly around the 17th of this month.

[gray yew]

nice job buddy

[amber canyon]

Speaking of things. Did anybody try making the ape dab? Just in case ...

[thin forum]

Hopefully I'll be able to leave solar system

[gray yew]

lemme try it again

[thin forum]

But extinction was already here

[gray yew]

i meant the reboot

also made the ape dab
nothing different

[gray yew]

(they updated the calendar)

[thin forum]

The game starts to end

[amber canyon]

Worth a shot. I'm updating my apps otherwise I'd've tried.

[thin forum]

so

What's gonna be different

Hopefully dinos

I love dinos

[gray yew]

k
i thought id been there for a while tho

[amber canyon]

Primary simulation and Reality Engine only in the Reality Reboot update.

[gray yew]

theyre changing the way the reality engine works

[amber canyon]

I have a lot to update ... 🫣

[gray yew]

i see

[amber canyon]

But was thinking back to what I've read about the Beyond Grand Opening - that had a worldwide tapping thing didn't it?

[gray yew]

I didn't see it, but I believe it happened.

[proud berry]

No... not you.

Apologies for the confusion.

[sturdy folio]

Which is the better upgrade?

[strange wing]

The quark enhancer

[fluid delta]

My interpretation is different, it'll be right after these. The rationale being that the distortion wouldn't keep intensifying all through the month. It could be that we'll get another update with more events late this month with even more intensification and then the actual change (however they'll indicate it visually). We will have to wait and see who is right 🙂

[sturdy folio]

When i bought the upgrades in this for the reality engine it didnt seem to cause any change at all

At least i didnt feel any

[fluid delta]

You need to reboot the sim for them to take effect

[sturdy folio]

Can you tell me which stats exactly will it upgrade?

[fluid delta]

the one you can afford 🙂

[strange wing]

It's 2x speed bro 😭

[sturdy folio]

Ohh now that makes more sense

Another question, if i have x15k already, will it just add 100 and itll be x15.1k? Or it will be x1.5mil?

[fluid delta]

that wasn't one of the options mentioned

[gray yew]

We’ll see

[sturdy folio]

I need 4 more trilion to buy the enhancer, i should be able to buy it tomorow

[gray yew]

It k

[fluid delta]

Then it'll depend on how far you are in Beyond, Meso, and Events/Badges. Probably the one for Meso is the best choice, since it's usually the fastest to progress

[gray yew]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a sentence that only makes sense in an idle game.

(/lighthearted)
/not at you)

[sturdy folio]

That'll mean getting another 44 trilion, that will take a lot of time

[fluid delta]

oops. sorry about that

[fluid delta]

I don't actually know. Somehow, in playing for a year and a half, I never thought to look!

[fluid delta]

Meso then

99 > 11 > 9

[strange wing]

Oh yea i forgot that meso do x10

Mb

[sturdy folio]

Ye but still, if it only will add 990 to the 15k its barelly noticeable, but if it multiplies the number then itll have some actual change

[fluid delta]

Catalin: What is your multiplier now?

[strange wing]

142 billion

[sturdy folio]

Also these guys, how did they get that much metabits and entropy production

What upgrades do i need

Especially to get that much entropy

[fluid delta]

The same path you are on, Catalin

[sturdy folio]

Also on the image on the right it shows hes at his 19th simulation, im on 18th and im nowhere near

[strange wing]

The capybara and giant squid in the logit shop

[sturdy folio]

Ye but still what upgrades do i need? I already have the capybara and the giant squid

From what i managed to find out those are the 2 important ones

But still nowhere near 5.65Sdc/s

[fluid delta]

If you have all the reality engine nodes, and you have all the primary stuff, and if you have completed all of meso and beyond and have lots of events (which is current endgame, where KF and I and some others are), then you will generate metabits at about 4.5 B to 4.7 B/sec

As to my income inside Primary, it's at 131.73 NN/sec and 3.66 NN/sec, respectively

[woven geode]

Hello knowledgeable person may I ask how roles are handed out?

[amber canyon]

You need to buy the things in the primary tree that they unlock too.

[fluid delta]

So what is your multiplier now? (click on Reboot Simulation, it'll tell you, and you can back out)

[strange wing]

You may do upgrade the meso. The 142x billion mult will turn into 1.42x trillion mult

[fluid delta]

submit a screenshot(s) of your progress to #🏆-share-your-prestige and wait for it to be manually given, which doesn't usually take too long!

[woven geode]

So achivments, and the level page?

Or reality engine as well?

[sturdy folio]

So it multiplies the number

[fluid delta]

hmm.. in that case I am not sure. I have lots more nodes than you, but my multiplier is only about 10x bigger than yours. So, not sure how it calculates, but the one that gives 10x from Meso is still your best one. Maybe in the Revamp next month, they'll be more clear about it

[sturdy folio]

Wait what 142 bilion multiplier, got confused there

[sturdy folio]

Whats revamp?

[strange wing]

The total speed of your simulation

[fluid delta]

check in the channel, it'll be obvious. not sure offhand

[strange wing]

That 15k is just from the total metabit

[woven geode]

Ok thank you

[sturdy folio]

Still dont really get what youre saying

[fluid delta]

reality engine and primary is changing in about a month. we think. we have been teased.

we won't be earning metabits anymore

existing progress and earnings will be converted. no paid items (with logits or darwinium) will be lost.

[sturdy folio]

So my actual simulation multiplier is the one that says total production?

[strange wing]

Yes that. if you multiply all the boosts from the others you get that one

[sturdy folio]

And which simulation does that multiplier affect, only the primary one?

[strange wing]

10x boost to meso is just 10x boost to the primary sim

[sturdy folio]

Cuz from what it says this is the simulation myltiplier

So if this is the simulation multiplier then what multiplier is the other one

[strange wing]

No lol. It's a mult came from the total amount of metabit

[sturdy folio]

Oh

[strange wing]

The other one show below

[sturdy folio]

Oh alright

So if its like that, can i just buy the beyong upgrade, boost the beyond multiplier up to x90, then get metabits for the other upgrades 90 times faster?

[amber canyon]

It's confusing. The total mined multiplier in the stats is related (somehow) to the total metabits researched when you last rebooted. It gets bigger when you reboot because you've researched more metabits.

[sturdy folio]

Also for some reason this is glitched or something, cuz my name and pfp keeps changing,and it says 2 meso and 1 beyond, yet im at 9 beyond and 99 meso

[amber canyon]

It'll start off like that (I think). But each metabits costs more to produce than the last one. So it'll start dropping.

[sturdy folio]

Figured that out, but still, will it be 90 times faster to mine if i do that?

[amber canyon]

Make sure you've set up a Cells login and upload a cloud save using Save Manager!

[sturdy folio]

Did that

Yet it still changed the name and pfp randomly

[amber canyon]

10 times faster. It'll go from x9 to x90. I think (it's been a while).

[sturdy folio]

Well still, 10 times faster overall right?

[amber canyon]

But now there'll be a backup that cells support can grab if it breaks 🙂.

[amber canyon]

I think. It's been a while since I was doing that. Takes note of your earnings before and after if you want to check 🙂.

[sturdy folio]

Aight ill do it

Also whats with the e15 here?

A few minutes ago it was e16

[terse vigil]

it's just for showoff

doesn't do much for all i know

[amber canyon]

We think it's - broadly speaking - your total production in e notation. E.g. 1 with 15 (or 16) zeros after it.

It can go a bit weird, at a border, and can take some time to 'load up'. Doesn't do anything.

[sturdy folio]

So my entropy production for an amino acid went from 770.80B to 7.16T

Not really full x10 but around there

[amber canyon]

If your having glitches, wouldn't surprise me if it's affected too.

[faint oar]

After doing many incremental games on Roblox a number with only 15 zeros after a number or like e15 seems like nothing

I’ve seen crazy numbers like 1ee412

Yes there was literally two Es

[fluid delta]

That's just 2024466 🙂

[faint oar]

It’s not

Before I got to ee when it was just e is was for example way before back at 1eNvt for example

Or 1eOog

[fluid delta]

Ah! Fair enough! It had looked like a hex number to me

[lucid lantern]

Question!
Can anyone tell me what the achievement in the last slot is/how to get it? I can't really find any guides on steam that talk about the newest ones.

[fluid delta]

Here you go, it'll be easy to find, search for "Sweetheart"
https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Achievements

[lucid lantern]

Ah, thanks!

[fluid delta]

yw!

[proper lotus]

to be new or to not be new

[fluid delta]

if you play the game, you won't be new?

[inner tapir]

with these 2 recent news bulletins in game, it sure gets me excited that we're close\

[fluid delta]

i think we are! it could be as soon as the first week of december!

[inner tapir]

I NEED IT CLOSER

MOAR

[fluid delta]

heh.. well.. if you really want the bugs THAT badly, you could make a 2nd account and play it there in the beta if you wanted?

[shrewd rampart]

i got my calcs wrong 😭

wth even is the offline % of beyond

its defo less than 25% because beyond is less than a quarter of exploration offline % (which is presumably 100%)

[proud berry]

It should say in the Reality Engine

[shrewd rampart]

the offline % in the reality engine only applies to the main sim (and meso i think..?)

i suppose the easiest way of finding the offline coefficient would be to divide gained stars from offline with gained stars if the coefficient is ideal (ideal coefficient would be 100%)

[junior verge]

I never understood offline generation %, if it’s less than being active then how is it possibly best to check in multiple times rather than just staying in game continuously

Also I’ve done some calculations in the past and it just doesn’t add up at all

[fluid delta]

the offline generation is higher than being in game (for all content in Cells) ONLY IF you do the 2x ad boost along with it. But it is very much worth it to do so. Exactly how much idr, but it's close to 2x. 1.75x? something like that

[junior verge]

But for e.g. primary, isn’t typical offline earnings like 30% or thereabouts?

[fluid delta]

Not sure, but I think it's more? I haven't sat down and calculated, but it's always been better for me to go offline with the ad boost.. think about it: it incentivizes people to watch more ads, which it wouldn't if it wasn't better. So it is, by design.

[junior verge]

I checked for mine and offline earnings is ~32%, shown in Reality Engine, I think that’s only for Primary and I don’t really pay much attention to my earnings there so who knows how that jibes

I don’t doubt that it’s better to be offline tho at least for the non-Primary sims, but if that rate is the same for them, or if any are less than 50%, the math just seems wrong

[fluid delta]

the math is kinda obscure in the game at times, for sure. I can check that in primary, if you want to hold on a little bit.

[fluid delta]

still checking, but I am surprised at what I see

[shrewd rampart]

theres this statement above the offline gain that says "x% of currency has been boosted!" or something like that

offline gain is insanely op for exploration events, since offline gain is 100% and you can get 100% boost for the offline gain

you can also get 2x more by paying with darwiniums

short answer: offline gain in exploration can be up to 4x more than passive gain

[fluid delta]

paying with DW = paying with your time to watch ads

(but that doesn't stack)

[shrewd rampart]

(passive gain is the sense that you dont help manually by clicking/using nanobots)

[fluid delta]

right, ofc, you can't do nanobots offline, after all 🙂

[shrewd rampart]

sometimes when i feel impulsive to spend my 19 darwiniums i just use dw boost

(i have trouble when it comes to saving up premium currency)

[fluid delta]

that'll bite ya.. like, with the revamp, rumor has it you will need to buy some things, and if you do.. well...

[shrewd rampart]

can we go to #💬-beta-chat so you can possibly explain what these "things" are? (if u dont mind ofc lol)

[fluid delta]

nope. I'm not in beta, so idk what those things might be

[shrewd rampart]

ohhhhh alr

[fluid delta]

but feel free to ask over there if you want

[shrewd rampart]

im having a seizure wtf

why are my calcs insanely incorrect...????

160 mins = 9600 seconds

[fluid delta]

how do you mean?

[shrewd rampart]

with my current passive currency generation (1.67e7) i should be getting 1.6e11 instead of 2.01e11

actually, no, i should be getting 3.2e11 because 100% was boosted

im not good at maths nor am i a specialist at that field of study, but with basic math i should be able to accurately predict/count my offline generation

ive never gotten my calcs in exploration wrong before this

[fluid delta]

yes, but offline earns more than online in Events

[shrewd rampart]

its just that it doesnt make sense yk 😭

[fluid delta]

maybe it's a bug, idk

[shrewd rampart]

let me recount

[fluid delta]

nono, that does make sense if they want to encourage offline for it, and especially if they want to encourage ad watching

and your calc is fine, i did it with your numbers

you would have gotten 1.6032E11 over that time if you had stayed online. You get 2.01 E 11 bc you were offline, or 2x that if you watch an ad or spend 2 DW.

[shrewd rampart]

oj wair let me check my timer lol

oh, it is correct

so its just an error from the game

[karmic quest]

I was not expecting the evils of idle game math to pop up here, what a terrible thing to come back to. /J

[fluid delta]

lol

[shrewd rampart]

oh uhm im so sorry

im really sorry if that made you uncomfortable

[karmic quest]

Oh, no worries!!! I was making a joke. That why I ended it with /j. It's a tone indicator

[shrewd rampart]

tone indicator..?

is that

like the thing that people use on twitter?

[karmic quest]

A way to make your tone clear in chat. /J is joking

[shrewd rampart]

ohh

thank you for letting me know

[karmic quest]

/s is sarcastic

[shrewd rampart]

but still, if me talking about calculatons make you uncomfy, do let me know!

[karmic quest]

Uh.... There's a lot more, but you can look it up!

[karmic quest]

Nah, it's all good!! I don't mind it all.

[shrewd rampart]

thank you!! /srs

[karmic quest]

💖 💖

[fluid delta]

but i don't think many are in common use

/s i see all the time. /j is rare... trying to think of others..

[karmic quest]

I think it depends on person and server

[fluid delta]

well sure, subcultures and all that

[shrewd rampart]

anyways now i can finally prove that the coefficient of exploration events is ideal (aka 100%, if you ignore the extra offline boost and dw/ad bonus)

[karmic quest]

/hj=half joking, /lh=light hearted, /nm=not mean

[fluid delta]

those idk, or would have to look them up

[shrewd rampart]

light hearted?? 😭

i genuinely do not understand /hsrs

ok so!

[karmic quest]

Light hearted is more for teasing with friends.

[shrewd rampart]

lets go and find the coefficient of mr and mrs beyond!

[shrewd rampart]

im quite familiar with the word "light-hearted" but i cant seem to imagine someone using that tone in any context

anyways, so!

[karmic quest]

Math time for Vaguello!

[shrewd rampart]

whoever is blocking top 10, just know that i will neuter you /j

[fluid delta]

lol.. it's not me, i started late

(like, today)

[shrewd rampart]

going offline for 86 minutes gave me the equivalent of playing passively in beyond for around 18 minutes

so, the coefficient of offline gains in beyond is around 20-21%

[fluid delta]

it depends. in amongst some other things, I've been working on that

[shrewd rampart]

extra:

now the question is...

how the HELL do i boost my offline gain's coefficient (specifically for beyond)

[shrewd rampart]

working on what

btw should i count the offline gain % of meso?

[fluid delta]

ok I have some results. They are.. a bit wierd, at least to me. And rough. What I tested was:
0 ad boost, Primary: ONLINE is best, by a lot
4x ad boost, Primary: Offline is best ONLY IF you also do the 2x return-from-offline ad boost.
0 ad boost, Beyond: ONLINE is best, by a lot
0 ad boost, Meso: ONLINE is best by a lot
4x ad boost, Events: Offline is best ONLY IF you also do the 2x return-from-offline ad boost.

Sorry for the incompleteness, but I was pretty tired when I did this. I assume that 4x ad boost with Beyond and offline and 2x return-from-offline ad boost, that going offline is best for that too.

Feel free to do your own checks

[shrewd rampart]

i theorized before that the offline gain of meso is the same or at least comparable to main sim

[fluid delta]

that. Since someone else asked a little earlier

[shrewd rampart]

but now since ik that beyond has its own separate coefficient, i might as well try to count meso's

oh and uhh btw

i have this theory that that the 4x ad boost buffs offline gain IF you log in during its active state

[fluid delta]

Basically, what I assumed was true earlier still is, but with added caveats: Offline is best if you also have 4x ad boost and watch an ad if you return, though Events is best even without the offline 2x ad when you return.

[shrewd rampart]

because i once calculated the offline gain with all variables

but i only got half of it

and i presumed because i was 1 minute past the 4x boost

say i went offline for 5 minutes

before i left, my ad boost timer was at 16:04

when i came back, the ad boost timer was at 15:59

coincidentally, i got half of what i shouldve gotten

basically, i shouldve gotten, say, 800 currency, but i only got 400

i tried testing again, with this time my timer was way past 16:00

and guess what, i got the predicted gain! (which is 800 lol)

[shrewd rampart]

being online in events is such a waste of time if you ask me, unless you're actively tapping and using nanobots or in the early stages where getting upgrades is easy and cheap (or in other words, you can actively get more upgrades in a short time)

[fluid delta]

yup, agreed. which is likely intended.

[shrewd rampart]

ok chat lets go to meso!!

[fluid delta]

anyway, i'm off to bed, I am very sleepy. Later!

[shrewd rampart]

goodnight brother

[fluid delta]

gnight!

[shrewd rampart]

ok well no ones here anymore

https://tenor.com/view/white-nails-lady-eyvain-evwei-gang-affiliated-white-nail-polish-gif-14921239384132233962

[shrewd rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/um-stan-twitter-interesting-gif-2556128588276332485

[shrewd rampart]

hi hello how the HELL do you get your stuff boosted by this thing

im not complaining that im getting extra money but like

what even is the criteria to get a bonus up to 100% for ur offline gains

my ad boost is 4x and yet im getting +0% boost

i sound so stupid rn someone please help me

[warm saddle]

I just opened up my game and all of my constellations are reset

[karmic quest]

You're not stupid, you're a math whiz

[shrewd rampart]

you might wanna ask for help from the admins or stuff

[shrewd rampart]

yeah but im a stupid math whiz

[karmic quest]

That sounds like an oxymoron

[cinder basin]

eh?

[shrewd rampart]

i mean, someone can he academically smart but street dumb

[karmic quest]

This just got posted in multiple channels, so either a bot or a hacked account

[cinder basin]

it is

[cinder basin]

like me, but I'm dumb in both

[karmic quest]

I generally call that high Int., low Wis.

[shrewd rampart]

who should we ping for bot ban

[shrewd rampart]

im lowk average academically but insanely dumb when it comes to the streets

[cinder basin]

I'm just purely dumb, almost pet a rabid cat at some point

(meee lob car)

[shrewd rampart]

😭

<@&535129309648781332> ban please!

[karmic quest]

That is uh..... Certainly something!!

[shrewd rampart]

im quite paranoid atm

[cinder basin]

mee c car, mee pat car

[shrewd rampart]

because yesterday a bat got fairly close to me (my neck to be specific)

and i heard that bat bites are generally painless, so its hard to know whether or not people got bit by one

[karmic quest]

Yikes

[shrewd rampart]

hopefully it didnt bite me

[karmic quest]

Me, but with dogs

[cinder basin]

where the hell do you live to have BATS

[shrewd rampart]

you can find my location on my profile lol

[karmic quest]

Goob, bats are practically everywhere

[cinder basin]

hell naw

[cinder basin]

indonesia, coool

never seen a bat

[karmic quest]

Yeah, that's kinda the point. They nocturnal, and can avoid humans fairly easily

But if you do see one, they pretty cute.

[shrewd rampart]

theyre so cute

[karmic quest]

Just don't touch them, because touch a wild animal is Bad™

[shrewd rampart]

cant wait for bats to get domesticated

[shrewd rampart]

no but seriously how do you get the 100% bonus

is it like a 50/50 thing??

[karmic quest]

By sheer dumb luck, I found one trapped in a small bucket in my basement when I lived in another state. Idk how it managed that, given the basement was unground (house was built on/in a small hill). But made sure to cover the top, waited till evening, put on a thick glove, and released the poor thing.

[shrewd rampart]

aww sweet baby

[karmic quest]

It was small, fuzzy brown, and made tiny squeaky noises.

I so wanted to pet it, but common sense dictates me when it comes to animals

[shrewd rampart]

i wanna have a bat as a pet

but i dont enjoy taking care of anything (or perhaps its more of that i cant take care of anything)

[karmic quest]

I wanna get a snake myself. Nothing big, ball python at biggest, corn snake probably

Just a little danger noodle

[shrewd rampart]

noodle

[shrewd rampart]

someone please help me i cant handle my overflowing curiosity 😭

[karmic quest]

Sadly, I can't help. I have average Joe math skills

Also-

Interesting sequel to the previous curious news message

[shrewd rampart]

is this suppose to be a hint towards the next update??

[karmic quest]

Not a clue!!!

[shrewd rampart]

ooh whats this

oh

the ape just

wow

ok

thats

mhm

yeah

ok

thanks

[clear crow]

💀

[amber canyon]

A few months ago. Someone was using the Semblance channel to expand a trigonometric function and integrate it. It was 'interesting' to watch. The expansion got big ...

[amber canyon]

Usually I give that advice specifically for Events. It's better because you check in and buy something that improves your production rate (substantially).

[amber canyon]

TBH I've never bothered calculating it because it wouldn't affect how I play. I'm not gonna sit in primary/ Beyond / Meso for extended periods. I'm just in there for a reason.

I do have a feeling that the game doesn't necessarily use the right offline duration. I'm not sure why I think that. Possibly from the astronomy missions in Beyond? I might have looked at that to work out when I should hop in to pick those up... Not 100% sure though.

[amber canyon]

Beta? If so #1436514203304202290 message

<@&535129309648781332> Scam (SolariS)

Also morning cells 'admin': 2 stone geodes, 4 white dwarfs, 3 red dwarfs, 0 Darwinium. Hmph. (Tiny violin, I know).

Ah well, at least the cube synthesiser paid out.

[shrewd rampart]

i cant help but mention your profile picture

im not judging, its just... 😀

[shrewd rampart]

a what now?? 😭

[amber canyon]

#🎭-semblance message

[shrewd rampart]

that is horrendous wow

i got vertigo from trying to read that

[shrewd rampart]

personally i cant help but calculate

[karmic quest]

That was all gibberish to me, tbh. Ugh, Trig

[shrewd rampart]

trig is disgusting

im really bad when it comes to angles and shapes and stuff

[karmic quest]

I never went past algebra 2.

[shrewd rampart]

whatever they had in trig i guess

[shrewd rampart]

in college?

[karmic quest]

I like geometry when I took that though

[karmic quest]

No, high school

[amber canyon]

I couldn't help but think that a Discord chat was ... Not the ideal place to try solve it 😁.

[shrewd rampart]

???????????

is it even possible to not do a subtopic in math??

[karmic quest]

Pre algebra, algebra 1, geometry, and algebra 2. That what my math classes were

[shrewd rampart]

i only like the theories of geometry, like how triangles are the strongest and how hexagons are the most efficient

[amber canyon]

I get ya. I have quite a lot of data from Cells and the Semblance game (different from what you're looking at though). More than is useful ... And I Def poke at it too often.

[shrewd rampart]

different country, different classes, i suppose

[karmic quest]

Yeah, and different school systems.

[amber canyon]

You may like the phone games Pythagorea and Euclidea. Or maybe not.

[shrewd rampart]

math and numeric data have always been my hyperfixation ever since childhood

[shrewd rampart]

hoho thanks for the info

[karmic quest]

Well no wonder you're a math whiz! You got hit with the hyper fixation beam

[shrewd rampart]

backstory time!

i used to be the "golden child" of my school because i exceled in every subject, ranked 1st, and won multiple awards (and the teachers liked me because my older sister was also like me lol)

[faint oar]

Yo how’s school like

[shrewd rampart]

but slowly but surely, i lost my competence and intelligence because i was sick and stuff bla bla bla

so now im below average

[amber canyon]

My cells analysis focus: I'm currently close to hitting the 200% badge boost diminishing returns point. So have been working out how to most efficiently align my diff event badges sets to test the graph here - #📓-dev-diary message .

For no good reason ...

[shrewd rampart]

im actually moving schools as we speak rn

because i had a few "troubles" in my previous school, if you get me

[faint oar]

I don’t even go to school I’m homeschool bc of a major disability I got

[shrewd rampart]

i suppose its a thing with neurodivergent people? i see the correlation tbh

[shrewd rampart]

dont worry, we believe that you can stay strong like the champion you are

[faint oar]

All I’m missing is legs and hips lol

[shrewd rampart]

well at least youre not missing your great personality and attitude

[faint oar]

Technically arms too since I do use robotic arms but you get the point

[amber canyon]

Doesn't stop you being a person!

(Does make lots of things harder 😥)

[faint oar]

Kinda born this way so it’s normal

[amber canyon]

But you've got Fish Nipples? Right?

[faint oar]

No lol

[amber canyon]

Damn. Ah well. And there was me wondering if you knew if there was a specific fish type that had nipples. Or something vaguely functionally equivalent.

[faint oar]

Bro

[amber canyon]

Sorry!

[faint oar]

KF can I friend you you seem chill fr

[amber canyon]

Sorry, no. I strongly disagree with the things you've written on your profile. ☹️

[faint oar]

Bro it’s just an opinion

You don’t have to go by it

[amber canyon]

I know. But I don't have to like it, or agree with it.

[faint oar]

Ik

[shrewd rampart]

...but you do have nipples, right? /lh

(i hope i dont get banned for this)

[faint oar]

Bro what

[amber canyon]

So far: mammalian 'fish' (dolphins and stuff): yes. Other fish: sometimes something different in a similar place (but no).

[shrewd rampart]

horse

[gray yew]

Horse

[clear crow]

NEIIIIIGGHHHHH!

UwU

[shrewd rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/white-nails-lady-eyvain-evwei-gang-affiliated-white-nail-polish-gif-14921239384132233962

[shrewd rampart]

how do people get to CL 5 bro

how much DW do these people use

[amber canyon]

Never tried it. I know that Webb is one of the quickest events for me (3h10m with 120% badge boost, x4 ads, no DW).

So ... If it works how I think:
CL1 3h10m
CL2 6h20m
CL3 12h40m
CL4 25h20m
Sums to 47h30m (2 days)

Doable I guess. If you're that way inclined. Unless you're on Steam

However I'll be starting the event in a couple of hours ... Efficiency ftw ...

[junior verge]

What rank do you usually end up with, starting late?

Also what does CL mean

[junior verge]

Great research, very impressive effort! I guess it maths out to offline still being best for everything with 4x boost and 2x earnings

[amber canyon]

Almost always top 10. But I have to play actively during the time I'm doing the event to make sure I finish.

CL = Challenge Level. What you get the choice of when you collect the 3rd badge.

[junior verge]

The thing is you could still buy new generators while being online continuously but according to the other post it seems like missing out on the 2x boost still more than offsets the increased earnings rate

[junior verge]

Interesting, might have to start joining later, usually there isn’t enough time for me to finish but I am accruing badges 👌

[shrewd rampart]

120% badge boost...?????

dont you only get up to 30% badge boost for the specific event

[amber canyon]

Getting the badges is the most important imo - especially the 15% one when you don't have a lot of them. But the top 10 rewards are def nice 😁.

It does seem to get harder to rank high if you join in the last 5h or so - I guess other 'sprinters' are joining along with me.

[shrewd rampart]

CL means mother

[junior verge]

I think it increases indefinitely but slows down a lot near ~200%

[amber canyon]

For any given time an event is run, yes. But if you have e.g. 2 sets of badges, the next time you play you'll have 60% badge boost.

[junior verge]

Yeah maybe the cliche advice of joining later is starting to become kind of inverted!

[shrewd rampart]

...so what youre trying to say is that you can get more than 1 badge of the same type????

[junior verge]

Over multiple events yes, in a single event only one of each of the three

[shrewd rampart]

how do i stack my badges

[junior verge]

Just do the event each time it’s out!

[shrewd rampart]

also is the 1% bonus from each badge counted for all simulations including exploration?

[junior verge]

No that’s only for Primary

[amber canyon]

X2 boost? Pah. I'm always on x4 boost for events. And there's no offline penalty on earnings afaik.

[shrewd rampart]

IM ONLY GONNA PLAY THIS GAME FOR 1 MONTH JSJXBSKNDKSDSNSXK

[amber canyon]

Just the 3 main sims I think.

[shrewd rampart]

cool

[junior verge]

I meant the double offline earnings boost, I worded that ambiguously mb

[junior verge]

Wait it also boosts Meso and Beyond?

[shrewd rampart]

ok so can this event end already im tryna get all of the badges thank you

[junior verge]

It doesn’t need to end to get all badges, unless u mean you haven’t gotten to the end yet

[junior verge]

Although that’s interesting if offline doesn’t have a penalty

[shrewd rampart]

i mean like i want the exploration to end already so i can get the next badge set

[amber canyon]

My Meso goes up when I get extra badges. Slightly (but I'm not getting many each time, relatively speaking).

[junior verge]

Oh gotcha haha

[junior verge]

Very interesting didn’t know that

Might all become obsolete anyway with reboot

[shrewd rampart]

offline DOES have penalty

(only on the 3 main sims tho)

[junior verge]

Why only one month btw

[shrewd rampart]

my hyperfixation is a bit extreme but also short-lived

[junior verge]

I’m the same but this game does keep me coming back!

Don’t sell urself short u can be obsessed for two months, I believe in u

[amber canyon]

So I get no penalty for being offline in Events. AND I get X2 earnings for watching the X2 offline boost. Twice as much earnt.

[junior verge]

Ok think we’re on the same page!

I will definitely have to use time warps for top ten this event 😢

I’m falling behind by thousands of Science while checking like every hour or so that I’m awake

[amber canyon]

If you get one of every badge that'll max that part of you score afaik ...

[shrewd rampart]

my total screentime for c2s is 75 hours

(this is my 17th day playing)

on average i spend 4.4 hours on this game online

[amber canyon]

I forget, are you Steam or mobile?

[shrewd rampart]

mobile

[shrewd rampart]

75h is when i open the game itself

i use my phone calculator and timer a lot

ive spent 3 hours with the calculator and 4 hours with the clock for the last 2 weeks lmaooo

[amber canyon]

I think a few of us have it open in the background / on a spare device. And being competitive in Events is intense. And takes a lot of time if you start early.

[shrewd rampart]

hell

[amber canyon]

Lol. I bet my spreadsheet stats are worse ...

[shrewd rampart]

i dont have it open in the background at all

so 75h is indeed me fully focusing on this game

[shrewd rampart]

dont forget about the offline boost where you can get up to +100% bonus gains, which brings up offline gains up to 4x than passive online income

[amber canyon]

That'll be the event bit, I guess.

I think I'm on 60+ days? In ~15 months. Quite a lot of that was grinding Meso and ||Neutrino Expansion||.

[shrewd rampart]

the what now

what the hell is that

[amber canyon]

The eNd BoSs ... At least until the Reality Reboot comes out anyway.

[shrewd rampart]

is this thing accessible??

[amber canyon]

You'll come to it if/as you progress in the Reality Engine.

It was supposed to be impossible when it was first put in ... But if you're crazy dedicated enough it can be got.

(I could easily buy another 2 ... Oh dear).

[shrewd rampart]

im literally finished with my main simulation....

theres more???

oh wait nvm

that thing is

wild

[shrewd rampart]

HOW DO YOU EVEN GET THAT MANY METABITS

[amber canyon]

Obsession. Or addiction.

(Getting flu and being stuck bored in bed for a week helped).

[shrewd rampart]

wow

[amber canyon]

First you have to get your Meso maxed (because of its effect on the RE multipliers). Beyond and Event badges help too, but to a lesser extent. Oh, and have bought everything else in the RE.

Then you:
A) wait a very long time
B) keep your boosts maxed and abuse the x30 shooting star and nanobots combo. Repeatedly. Infinity pass is helpful for this.

And y'know what. It doesn't even do much. It's a bEcAuSe iTs tHeRe thing ...

[shrewd rampart]

oh

well

[amber canyon]

And even worse - because each metabit costs more than the last it gets slower and slower every step.

Not for the faint-hearted.

[shrewd rampart]

i dont like that sooooo

ill just wait until reality reboot

any new hints on when reality reboot is coming out?

(i dont take "soon" or "later" as an answer thanks ❤️)

[amber canyon]

There might be a new hint soon? 😬

[strange wing]

Somehow the metabit production still decrease even tho the meta block size is max

[lost gazelle]

Hello everyone

[amber canyon]

I don't think anybody has ever worked out what's going on there. Not even the Devs!

[shrewd rampart]

im not gonna work on that one (not like anyone asked me to 😭)

[shrewd rampart]

i dont get the reference....

[amber canyon]

Ah. A warning that is put on maps where no-one really knows what's there. To tell people that it's dangerous over there.

Similarly, trying to reverse engineer the metabit earning stuff is heading into uncharted territory, where many brave souls have tried, failed and been lost to us. Poetically speaking.

[shrewd rampart]

???? 😭

wait there are people who have tried to calculate the metabit gain formula??

[sturdy folio]

Is there a max amount of times that you can reboot the simulation?

[shrewd rampart]

i doubt i can do that unless the formula is just exponents and roots

(i cant do logarithms sorry)

[shrewd rampart]

supposedly no

but you wont get anything by rebooting the simulation nonstop

[amber canyon]

There were people ...

[shrewd rampart]

can i see their attempts

[amber canyon]

Er ... Was about a year ago iirc. Not sure if Reddit or here. Or which channel 🤷.

[shrewd rampart]

its been cracked so whats the use

[sturdy folio]

I know

[shrewd rampart]

good for you..?

https://tenor.com/view/buckspendragon-stan-twt-blush-giggle-twirl-hair-gif-17607678131116202407

[rustic heath]

Where can I find what's new in each update?

[zinc moat]

ł

[amber canyon]

Here (ish) https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/810838794890379274

Or (for beta) https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1200105238208708668

[rustic heath]

Thanks

[junior verge]

If you go to Computer Lunch’s official Reddit account there’s a pretty good post

Let me find it

[shrewd rampart]

THERES REBOOT PRIZES FOR BETA TESTERS???

CAN I STILL ENTER BETA FOR THE PRIZES??

[junior verge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CellToSingularity/s/zQPAOBISWu

A few months old but really neat breakdown

[reef roost]

how do i advance further, im stuck at 10T metabits

[scenic pine]

coming soon thing dissapeard, does that mean the update is soon??

[sudden crystal]

how far are you in mesozoic valley

[radiant ravine]

how do i get to the game transfer menu? i wanna connect my game to discord to get the roles and stuff but i cant figure out how

[wraith terrace]

Afaik, that doesn't work anymore. To get roles in Discord, post screens of your progress in #🏆-share-your-prestige

[radiant ravine]

ok thank you

[fluid delta]

Dang, I come back after sleeping and there’s like comments every minute while I was away, you people have been busy!!

@amber canyon So, I see you there trying to get the Event done before it ends.. do you think you’ll actually make it? Which Div?

[amber canyon]

Yup - got all the stages. Just not collected any. Am doing weird unoptimal stuff. Because why not - I don't need any more BHs ...

Div 219. Started with 3h20 to go. It's been a moderately tough div - been in 8th-14th for most of it.

[fluid delta]

Heh. ok good. Div 203 here. Started late morning yesterday. On CL2, looks like I will finish Rank 4.

[hearty turret]

Can I remotely connect my steam account to the web game?

Can’t download steam on this computer and trying to continue my save

[fluid delta]

I’m not sure about remote connect, but the way to transfer saves is to use the save manager within the game with a CL login, and upload/download to the cloud

[hearty turret]

That would require being on the other computer tho

[fluid delta]

This is one reason playing on mobile (ipad is ideal) is best, bc you can carry the game with you, wherever you go. Makes sense since it is an idle game, after all

[shrewd rampart]

snore

9.3k science but im barely in top 20

[proper lotus]

its about to end

[shrewd rampart]

nice name btw

[proper lotus]

its my initials

[shrewd rampart]

and uh

[proper lotus]

I have to explain every time I join a server

[shrewd rampart]

what exactly is that green arrow that says "15%"

[proper lotus]

the badge boost

[shrewd rampart]

dont worry, i already saw your prestige intro

[shrewd rampart]

youve done this event before?

ohhh alr

[proper lotus]

yea

30 sec

10

wth its counting up

[slow badge]

Does any1 know any codes?

[proper lotus]

i dont remember any

[slow badge]

Ok

[proper lotus]

theyre probably in the wiki

[slow badge]

Wheres the wiki

[proper lotus]

heres one page https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Galactic_Nursery

[slow badge]

Ty

[proper lotus]

yw

[shrewd rampart]

what even is the best time to enter an exploration event

last time i waited 6 hours only to end up in div #23

[junior verge]

I can finally rest easy 😭 only my second time in top ten, and first with no time warps!

[shrewd rampart]

and i still couldnt get to top 10

[amber canyon]

Type / codes in the Semblance channel in this discord.

Afaik you need to type them in CAPS and access the box from the Primary SIM.

[junior verge]

Really cut it close, I was at 10 for a while and was hoping no one would warp past me

[shrewd rampart]

when the hell did you enter the event

[junior verge]

Second day I think had two full days of event I think

I think best time is late but not super super late

[shrewd rampart]

aiansjsxjsjx

[junior verge]

6 hours in is too early

[shrewd rampart]

i will eat all of you....

[junior verge]

Also helps to have badges from before!

I had 70% boost

[shrewd rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-crying-black-man-cry-cry-meme-twitter-gif-4981409690540077050

[amber canyon]

ALL of us? 👀

[shrewd rampart]

with me as an exception, ofc

[amber canyon]

Ah ofc. That's exactly what I was worried about 😁.

[shrewd rampart]

if i were to devour myself, i would theoretically ascend and become ouroboros THEMSELF

how long should i wait for this event...

i wanna play it alreadyyyyy :(

[junior verge]

If you don’t care to rank high play it whenever you like!

If you haven’t done it many times before, or at all, don’t worry too much about top ten

I do like the philosophy event I heard some people don’t care for it that much

[reef roost]

15th extinction

[unkempt ibex]

Hello guys