💬-cells-chat

[fluid delta]

People would just die of other things, later on. Also, under-population is already a problem in most countries

[gray yew]

Okay, fair.

[amber canyon]

The effect of rejuvenation on society would be massive.

But ... How many people would want to live forever ... ?

I'd go for a longer period of expected good health though.

Just wait to give out immortality until my parents generation are gone, 'K?

[gray yew]

I’d like to live a little while longer, but not forever.

[fluid delta]

The point is we’d have the choice to end life when we wanted, not when biology wanted.. or if it’s not 100% effective, you’ll die of “old age” just way later

[gray yew]

I guess that makes more sense.

[fluid delta]

Rejuv would be repeating treatments every X years to revert your physical state to 25 or whatever.

it wouldnt be a “one and done” type deal

bc Rejuv would be repairing damage, not re-engineering our biology which would be insanely complex

[amber canyon]

And maybe physiology would make me feel better about living forever.

Maybe the deal becomes - you get rejuved to physical age 20, but you lose all your assets and have to start 'fresh'. To stop wealth concentrating. (never gonna happen ... But just musing)?

[fluid delta]

That generation probably cost us 5-10 years bc of their voting choices so.. you will have your wish I think 🙂

[fluid delta]

If you liked how you feel in your 20s and could feel that way indefinitely, why would you stop.. excepting external factors. ofc?

[fluid delta]

That won’t happen, especially as you would likely do rejuv every 10 years.. but the medical savings and the cancel of social security would easily pay for it and solve the demographic crisis at the same time

[amber canyon]

At my age now, the idea of starting from age 20 and having to work ANOTHER 45+ years does not sound appealing, lol.

Presumably when I was 20, it didn't seem so bad 😁.

[fluid delta]

Heh.. you’re a Boomer then? … but yes, things seem different when you are 20.. as they should!

[amber canyon]

@mild furnace - ignore the above, being 20's great!)

[mild furnace]

my phone died lemme read

[gray yew]

After all, your 20s are your physical prime.

[mild furnace]

HA

[fluid delta]

Agreed.

[mild furnace]

im creaking like a haunted hause

house

i even workout but still😭

i sound like i need wd40

[amber canyon]

Boomer? Nope. I did phrase that badly - I meant 45+ more years. I'm a Gen X / Millennial.

[fluid delta]

heh.. well, one hopes your state at age 20 is a good baseline

[fluid delta]

Ah, got it. I am GenX as well

(probably obvious)

[gray yew]

Gen Z here

[gray yew]

I really hope mine is.

[fluid delta]

But I’ve always had an unusual perspective on things.. an immortalist perspective, even

[mild furnace]

i think ive aged about 10 years

ppl stopped asking for id at bars…

and like when i buy alcohol

😭

stress will do that

[fluid delta]

Take care of yourself if you can. Don’t do anything especially stupid… that’s key. Like binge drinking or getting pregnant

[gray yew]

I’m a guy. If I get pregnant, then something’s gone seriously wrong.

[fluid delta]

Heh. I always got carded even in my late 30s

[fluid delta]

ikr!!

[gray yew]

That plus I don’t really like booze
Cider’s okay, but that’s about it

[amber canyon]

It'll be the hormones in the water. Or the rejuv treatment.

[gray yew]

And I might be resistant/immune to alcoholic effects, but I have yet to properly test this.

[fluid delta]

..but there it still applies bc if you get some girl pregnant, your life will likely change in a way that is not great for your next couple decades

[gray yew]

Or I’m in somebody’s fanfic.

[mild furnace]

i think i just need to eat better tbh i kinda eat like shit i dont drink at all so thats a plus just like once every few months

honestly tho

i need a face care routine

badly

[gray yew]

Ha! I don’t think I could get anyone pregnant if I tried.

[mild furnace]

r u infertile

[gray yew]

I’ve started exfoliating. That helps.

[fluid delta]

Eating bad will bite you hard, later. Smoking will bite you hard, sooner and later, both.

[gray yew]

Prolly not, but I’m low in testosterone.

Probably.

[mild furnace]

my gf keeps recommending me different face care products and nothing works so ill just do cleanser and moisturizer

[gray yew]

I can relate.
(To the first one.)

[fluid delta]

That actually is associated with longer lifespan

[gray yew]

Woah.

[fluid delta]

Eunuchs back in the day often lived decades longer than their peers.

[amber canyon]

I just spat my drink everywhere. That exchange tickled me.

[mild furnace]

by eating bad i just mean i cook like not the healthiest i make salads sometimes but alot of the time i eat meats and rice or carbohydrates

[gray yew]

Somehow, I keep finding ways to make people laugh when I don’t mean to.

(Okay, it is kinda funny)

[mild furnace]

i hope im not low in test i dont think i am but i still have to get my hormone levels check at some point cuz i think my pimples might be cuz of an imbalance since literally nothing makes them go away

[fluid delta]

yeah, it, like, depends.. diet can be complex, and so are people to an extent. and.. even knowing what to do doesn’t make it easy to do it, when you live in most places

[gray yew]

(I haven’t even tested myself. I’m just theorising.)

[mild furnace]

im ngl when i start work im gonna use my money to get a derma checkup and a dietitian appointment

itll be the best money spent on myself

[amber canyon]

I remember reading something about that. There's the testosterone aspect. But isn't there also that Eunuchs generally has easier lives / jobs and (relatedly) better food than the general population too?

Also, not having kids gotta help with lowering stress 😁.

[mild furnace]

honestly living as a monk is the way to live a million years

i wanna live as a mountain goat sometimes or a frog man they literally dont do anything but just chill

[amber canyon]

Being a peasant was unpleasant ...

[mild furnace]

u were a peasant?

[fluid delta]

most dieticians don’t know what they are talking about. it’s easy to summarize anyway: avoid processed foods in general. eat lots of plants. avoid added oils. avoid sugar. eat lots of starches. don’t eat meat. It’s easy to describe but hard to do bc the bad stuff tends to smell SO good, and taste great too.

[gray yew]

Generally, healthy stuff tastes not as great as unhealthy stuff. UNIVERSE WHY DO YOU TORTURE ME SO-?!

[amber canyon]

Me? No! But I do read a fair bit of history focussed on what normal people's lives were like. And normal people were peasants.

[fluid delta]

You really, REALLY want to avoid heart disease and strokes. Diet will make you immune to 99% of it.

[mild furnace]

avoiding sugar and meat is hard i have an insane sweet tooth and meat is like the biggest staple in my diet i cannot live without jt i get the gist but man

i eat some kind of protein almost everyday

[sinful delta]

unless it was planned

and you’re good at parenting

somehow

[fluid delta]

I hear ya. It’s not what we are evolved for. We can eat it, but there is a physical price.

[mild furnace]

honestly kinda real me and my gf will sometimes make up scenarios about living back then and usually they end up with us dying of sepsis in most ways or the plague😭

[fluid delta]

Even then, unless you are already wealthy.

[sinful delta]

that’s also a factor

[gray yew]

I thought we were eating meat for a good chunk of our evolutionary history?

[mild furnace]

i think they meant the sugar

[gray yew]

When it comes to the meat industry, it’s mostly the environmental impact that all those factories have that I’m concerned about.

[gray yew]

Oh that

[fluid delta]

Sparingly, yes. But that’s not modern society. And there was a lot less fat.

[gray yew]

Makes sense.

I mean, Good Thing x [LARGE NUMBER] = Bad Thing
At least sometimes

[fluid delta]

And yes, lots of sugar is bad too, we’re not evolved for that either. Starch is great though. Fiber. We are evolved for that.

[mild furnace]

tbh the worst thing is definitely the fact that proteins cost alot like beef and pork r just super cheap compared to stuff like fish or chicken personally if it were up to me id only be eating seafood and chicken but “hormones in the chickens 😱 “ according to my mom and “ no money in ur wallet 😱” according to the stores for seafood

honestly tho its not THAT expensive if i buy a whole salmon and butcher it myself

[amber canyon]

Large numbers of children dying before they're 5. Large numbers of women dying in childbirth, and about the same numbers of men dying in wars. And if you survige that, then you get to look forward to growing old and being the person chosen to not get food in the next bad harvest year.

And. You. Have. Almost. No. Choice. In. Your. Life.

[mild furnace]

its about 80 bucks my currency which is pretty good i can get soup from bones and atleast 3 kgs of meat

[gray yew]

Oh, and all the disease.

[mild furnace]

i know what im gonna do this weekend

im gonna butcher a salmon

[fluid delta]

But, we are attracted to these bad foods bc before modern times it was rare and bc it is very energy dense. Survival benefit when it was hard to get.. but in modern society where you can get it anytime you want, our bio programming kills us slowly

[sinful delta]

Only reason this era was partially known for diseases is because people didn’t have the technology to realize they were diseases and how to treat it properly

[amber canyon]

When I used to eat meat I'd get larger lumps and dismantle it myself. Was def cheaper. And I liked making the stock.

[sinful delta]

Instead they made up shit like “bad air”

Which is reasonable I guess

[mild furnace]

ye literally thats one of our causes of death is child birth😭 few days ago we had to choose between marrying a peasant or a nobleman and the main cons were having to give birth to 7 kids and probably dying of sepsis and infection cuz ur probably sleeping in a stable

[gray yew]

Evolutionary Anachronisms or, as Bibilaridon put it, “Instinctual Lag”.

[fluid delta]

There’s lots of protein in beans, plus you get fiber and low fat. Great food!

[mild furnace]

id love to make stock but the freezer is too full and i dont have a proper can sealer

[mild furnace]

i love making this one zucchini butter bean tomato stew

it has eggs on the side as well

i could totally eat that for weeks but again

the alure of meat is just too string

strong

[amber canyon]

Sounds like Shakshuka. Which is fab!

[fluid delta]

I hear you. Biology pulls us in directions that are great for the short term, but can be terrible for the medium or longer term

[mild furnace]

well the egg is soft boiled so a little dif i fry up some garlic in olive oil then dump in a can of crushed tomato and rough cubes of zucchini and after its cooked thru i put beans and its done optionally u can put parm over it but its amazing with toasted bread and the egg

[gray yew]

Evolution, biological evolution at least, just hasn’t caught up yet.

[mild furnace]

tbh tho i feel like its fine maybe twice a week

[amber canyon]

True.

Speaking of biology ... It is midnight over here, and biology is pulling me to sleep.

Been great chatting!

Have fun 🙂.

[fluid delta]

it isn’t. once per month, maybe

[mild furnace]

[fluid delta]

later KF!

[mild furnace]

bye

i should sleep soon as well almost 2 but in a bit

im ngl i feel like having a shrimp farm would literally be the best

cuz usually theyre quite small

[fluid delta]

it can’t and besides it is all changing too fast

[mild furnace]

and easy to maintain

and shrimp r amazingly delicious

shrimp should be pretty healthy right

[fluid delta]

eh.. eating sea bugs.. not a fan of the concept

[mild furnace]

id totally eat real bugs as long as theyre properly farmed apparently steamed cricket meat tastes the same as crab

cuz yk

[fluid delta]

no, shrimp are not healthy, it’s meat with what that entails

[mild furnace]

same family

[gray yew]

But it seems to work in theory. Shrimp, prawns, maybe krill, crabs, lobsters, crayfish…etc etc.

[mild furnace]

okay but red meat i get its high in cholesterol and other stuff but whats wrong with shrimp

[gray yew]

I hear that termites contain 35g of protein for 100g of meat, compared to beef which has 28g.
The problem is farming the little buggers.

[mild furnace]

wow

[fluid delta]

bugs creep me out. social programming at a very young age, but knowing it doesn’t change it

[gray yew]

That’s understandable.

[mild furnace]

completely get it bugs fresk me out but i dont see them as bugs i just see them as more like water animals

like fish

even if theyre big bugs

[fluid delta]

setting aside that the shrimp don’t want to suffer? lots of saturated fat. protein too high.

[mild furnace]

honestly seafood is amazing

i should totally buy a vacuum sealer

[gray yew]

Myself I’m trying to go off seafood because of the fishing industries.

[mild furnace]

ok tbf shrimp most likely dont hsve that high of a thought process they go off of instinct only

[fluid delta]

that too. the more you know, the worse you feel

[gray yew]

Knowing things is kind of a curse.

[fluid delta]

not saying it’s deep thought, but suffering is still there

[mild furnace]

ye well they wont get treated any better in the wild imo theyd pronably get eaten or torn to shreds while theyre still alive in the wild

[fluid delta]

sometimes. but other times it helps you do what you want to do anyway

[gray yew]

I know it doesn’t excuse it, but they’d probably suffer anyways. I doubt being eaten by a whale or penguin is a pleasant experience.

[mild furnace]

well theyd be free ofc

i dont like fishing industries

[gray yew]

(Then again, it’s probably kinder than being eaten by humans)

[mild furnace]

but what can i do

[mild furnace]

exactly what i mean

[fluid delta]

oh i know, it’s not a simple subject. Nature is full of horrors, everywhere

[mild furnace]

at the end of the day these guys r in our eco system and r part of the food chain

and to some degree we r as well just higher up

[fluid delta]

Like,I get it. I don’t like it, but I get it.

[gray yew]

But we can change it. Defy our nature-whatever it is, exactly-and do better.

Like, shrimp likely suffer anyways. But that doesn’t mean we have to make them suffer.

The whales and penguins and others can do what they like.

[fluid delta]

Yes. We can make personal choices that indirectly incentivize others to make better choices

[mild furnace]

ye i get the reason y u wouldnt wanna eat them as well my gf is vegetarian so i sympathize with u ive been generally trying to avoid land animal meats cuz she taught me about the cruelty and stuff

i still eat meats but alot less

i said everyday but its much less tbh

[gray yew]

If/When I move out, I’ll try to cut down on meats too.

[mild furnace]

i started eating tofu snd meat replacements

[gray yew]

Right!

[mild furnace]

and halloumi is the goat

[mild furnace]

small creatures r so pitiful

[gray yew]

Bottom of the food web is a pretty rough position to be in.

[mild furnace]

my gf has been esting tempeh and seitan alot and ive been super curious about both

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. even seafood is often really bad. So is dairy. Yet.. I understand the complexity of the world and how things are so I usually don’t judge. Humanity is very imperfect, for sure

[fluid delta]

yea those can be tasty. just i avoid the heavily processed vegan food bc that’s crap too

[mild furnace]

im ngl theyre mostly there to just be eaten kinda like stupid fish and when i say stupid fish theres this weird distinction i talked about with her beofre that “sparkly” and more decorated fish or more evolved fish seem to have a little bit of a higher intelligence than the base fish like pollock we came to the conclusion that basically all the “default” fish r just food and basically floating rocks lol

[gray yew]

No argument from me. It may take at least another 700,000 years to be even close to rid of these “imperfections”…though by then, we’ll likely have developed new ones.

[gray yew]

There’s no such thing as “more evolved”.

[mild furnace]

well i like to make my own stuff like kimchi kombucha etc and id like to make tempeh one day maybe theres also this thing im dying to try and replicate which is mycoprotein

[fluid delta]

seitan and tempeh are solid though, simple ingredients, fairly minimal processing as long as you don’t get a crap brand that adds sugar and emulsifiers etc

[mild furnace]

ye well in our eyes the fish that r more decorated seem to have a higher level of “awareness” or higher evolved things in the waters r smarter like octopi

cuz clams r quite literally just living rocks

they do not have brains

[gray yew]

Evolution just does what works.

[gray yew]

I guess they never really needed higher complexity.

[mild furnace]

im just saying evolved from our standpoint just means fancy fish like to me and her

[fluid delta]

Fish are a lot more complex mentally than you realize. They can recognize different people, for instance. Some can.

[gray yew]

Plus that 3-second memory myth. It’s more like 3 months.

[mild furnace]

ye ofc they can im just saying like there r some that in our opinion r literally put there JUST to be food

[fluid delta]

Agreed. Evolution is an ongoing process and never stops

[mild furnace]

honestly

catfish r menaces

[gray yew]

They serve their purpose, I suppose. Without them, we’d all be dead.

[mild furnace]

what do u guys think about invasive species

eat or no

[gray yew]

Agreed.

[mild furnace]

ethical or not

cuz theyre animals

but theyre ruining everything in the evk system

evo

eco

[gray yew]

I mean, if it’s possible and/or without trashing everything else. I hear they’re encouraging lionfish delicacies in the Caribbean.

[fluid delta]

Like I said, it’s complex.

[mild furnace]

well in ur opinion

as a vegetarian

[mild furnace]

id wanna try that tbh

i always see these super fancy fish

like pompano

they arent invasive but

[fluid delta]

I just attempt to eat in a way that I can live with myself and keeps me healthy. My sweet tooth is my biggest problem, heh

[mild furnace]

they seem really nice to eat cuz they only eat shellfish

[leaden aurora]

Bonjour

[mild furnace]

hi

[gray yew]

That reminds me of those stories of people introducing new species to control other invaders…and backfiring.

[gray yew]

Bonjour

[fluid delta]

Bonjour

[fluid delta]

Yup. That’s happened a lot

[mild furnace]

imo best way to deal with it is dispatch the animal instantly so no suffering and eat it

ive heard catfish is super nice

kinda bad in certain areas tho

[fluid delta]

Sure, but better to not eat it at all, and have others do that for themselves, if that’s the choice they make.

[mild furnace]

that happened in arizona i think where there was a cactus that spread like wildfire and some ppl introduced a bird or a bug i think that ate the cactus then that animal became invasive

apparently it was called the cactus jungle

[gray yew]

It makes sense when you think about it.

Like, say you’re a fox in Australia. The place is being overrun by your usual prey, the European Rabbit-a small mammal which knows what you are and will run like hell if it spots you.
But then you come across, let’s say, the Quoll-a small mammal that doesn’t know what you are, and will barely flinch if it spots you.

Which one would you wanna eat first?

[sinful delta]

probably the one that dosent know im a threat

[fluid delta]

A fox is gonna do what it needs to survive. it doesn’t think “why” it just acts.

[gray yew]

Exactly.

[gray yew]

Exactly.

A predator will always go for the easiest prey.

[fluid delta]

yep

[mild furnace]

thats something about meat i always follow i always use up every part of the animal and i never let any piece of meat on my plate go to the bin cuz i feel its a disrespect to the animal if i dont use every bit of it cuz its life got taken so that i can keep living on ykwim in this scenario atleast

so i dont starve ofc theres orher options but

if i eat an animal i will get everything from it

[gray yew]

Same thing with ferrets in New Zealand crunching on Kakapo instead of ravenously devouring rabbits

[mild furnace]

idk thats just a rule i live by

never disrespect what ur eating

[gray yew]

Sounds good

[mild furnace]

if its an animal

i feel the exact same way if something wanted to eat me i wouldnt want my body to be disrespected

id want to be used in everything i can possibly be made into

[fluid delta]

That’s good of you, for sure. Just only eat meat rarely if you don’t want heart disease, strokes later on in life. It can be reversed but it involves a very restrictive diet that would drive most people into depression, heh

[sinful delta]

guys

if you’re a predator and there’s prey and there’s another prey what do you eat first

[fluid delta]

eat all the things!

[mild furnace]

whichever is closest

😋

[gray yew]

I just asked that

[sinful delta]

Ik

But now it becomes more broad

[mild furnace]

honestly thats my issue with dieting it feels so depressing eating stuff i dont particularly enjoy when i was cutting for the gym i literally just ate canned tuna with rice and a smoothie for MONTHS and whenever i ate anything else i actually felt sm happiness its crazy😭

[gray yew]

What’s the difference between the “prey” and “another prey”

[sinful delta]

prey is prey

[gray yew]

Dang.

[sinful delta]

another prey is prey but different one

[fluid delta]

you corner both, eat one while preventing the other from escaping, then eat that other if you are still hungry. like i said “eat all the things” 🙂

[gray yew]

Are they both rabbits or smthn?

[sinful delta]

They’re just prey

[mild furnace]

there is no difference particularly but the dif is just whichever is closer is the one id go for

[gray yew]

K

[mild furnace]

cuz it just makes sense

less energy to catch up to the other

[gray yew]

At least in theory

[mild furnace]

ok heres the real question ur chasing prey ur a predator then u start getting hunted what do u do

[sinful delta]

guys

[mild furnace]

hide or keep hunting

[gray yew]

Run for the hills

[sinful delta]

Hide but not close to the hunter

I’d sprint

Far away

And hopefully the hunter isn’t a human

[mild furnace]

okay 3rd option u wait and find out so maybe u can fight the other predator

and u MIGHT win

[sinful delta]

How do animals think without words

[mild furnace]

no its an animal

[fluid delta]

Well but that’s if you are in a bad state and need to change or literally die soon. You can have a lot more variety if you just want to maintain your current level of health in that way. You also avoid non-type-1 diabetes, too

[mild furnace]

feeling and images

[sinful delta]

Imo I’d say it’s via mental images and using other senses

[mild furnace]

plus animals have their own languages

[sinful delta]

ye

[mild furnace]

like cats have their own “language”

[sinful delta]

but how do we know they use it when thinking

[gray yew]

Same thing with humans thinking in their own languages

And now I’m thinking of going to bed
Cya

[fluid delta]

The same way we do when we don’t use words.

Albeit with less complexity for most animals

[mild furnace]

i need to make a proper diet schedule omg fucking meal prepping is so hard cuz i end up eating the prepped meals

when its not time

PORTIONS R TOO SMALL

stuff just isnt filling

even with “filler”

me too ill go to bed after sepheria finished typing

[fluid delta]

Just eat lots of complex carbs without fat, lots of veggies, no sugar, no added salt. Easy.

[mild furnace]

finsihed

finishes

[mild furnace]

no added salt is not easy man😭 salt is one of the main things i eat

i like strong sharp flavors

i sometimes munch on bouillon cubes

parm

cheddar

sometimes even salt crystals

one time i bought a 1 kg salt rock and ate half of it over the span of a year… but i counteract it by drinking

[fluid delta]

Yeah it is tasty but it makes you eat more food than you would otherwise and causes health problems when it is too high.

[mild furnace]

alot of water

like 5-6 liters a day

[fluid delta]

You gotta retrain your taste buds.

[mild furnace]

this bottle carries my kidneys so hard

its a 2.5 liters bottle

[fluid delta]

better to not stress your kidneys in the first place

[mild furnace]

it was like 5 years ago i remember my tongue sometimes burned xuz of the salt😭 im never doing it again but just saying my salt addiction goes that far

[fluid delta]

and.., cute kitteh!

[mild furnace]

i have 2 more

[fluid delta]

nodnod I hear ya. Sugar is my own problem, it is tough

[fluid delta]

really wanting a lot of salt is also a warning sign of T2 Diabetes so.. be careful

[mild furnace]

second pic HE ISNT SUFFERING

hes likes to sunbathe

like a corpse

[fluid delta]

heh. very cute cats!

[mild furnace]

im at risk for diabetes so well see i should be probably fine tho

just at risk

not a definite

i was supposed to go to an endocrinologist

to check

ill do that at some point

[fluid delta]

The diet approach i talk about makes you immune from it. ancestral populations that do the same just don’t get it outside of really unlucky genetics. same with heart disease and most strokes

[sinful delta]

why am I craving a lot of salt

[fluid delta]

bc salt is tasty and we are reminding you that it is that lol

[mild furnace]

u might just be craving it cuz ur lacking and u mighjt just want cuz its tasty

[sinful delta]

surely not a sign of t2 diabetes

Must be really tasty

[fluid delta]

heh. it can be both at once

[mild furnace]

i would recommend whenever ur in the mood for salt drop s chicken bouillon in a pot of boiling water and make psuedo chicken soup its salty and it lasts a long time

[fluid delta]

yuck

[mild furnace]

eh i like it

its like tea

or just a warm drink

[fluid delta]

no, if i want salt i just do miso soup or add a bit of soy sauce to smth. or i use a little garlic salt on smth

[mild furnace]

id FUCK UP some miso soup im ngl i havent had proper miso soup in almost a decade

its jsut been with firm tofu since i havent been able to find proper soft tofu here

asian markets r kinda gentrified in the center of the city but i found one recently thats on the outskirts of the city that might have sof ttofu

[fluid delta]

heh not difficult.. a teaspoon or two of miso paste dissolved in a mug of hot water. as easy as it gets

[mild furnace]

well that too but i like some texture in it

[fluid delta]

yeah that is good. you can add a bit of seaweed for that, and that’s healthy too

[mild furnace]

speaking of seaweed roasted seaweed is amazing

i made some the other day

[fluid delta]

agreed

[mild furnace]

it was with sesame oil and stuff and i made about 15 sheets and ate all of it😭

went light on the salt cuz i knew i was gonna eat all of it

its actually so addictive

i just dunno what i can actually eat it with

i can only come up with noodles

[fluid delta]

nodnod.. it is. anyway on that note i must go find foods, i is hungry nao

[mild furnace]

goodluck

im going to bed

[fluid delta]

thx

[mild furnace]

its 2:40

[fluid delta]

sleep well

[mild furnace]

goodnight seph

goodnighr everyone else

[faint hinge]

what is the punchline here

[sinful delta]

All i can think of is catfish

[faint hinge]

Eh cool

[scenic quarry]

whats your favorite anime?

[fluid delta]

.. that reminds me, I need to watch S3 of Konosuba

(well, rewatch S1+2, it's been years)

[scenic quarry]

whats your favorite anime?

[fluid delta]

Well.. it's embarassing.. and I wouldn't call myself a connaisseur, but I have tended to like the Isekai sub-genre

[fluid socket]

I don't dare answer that question, it's probably older than several people here. XD

[scenic quarry]

dont worry, there good isekais like re zero or no game no life

[fluid delta]

heh.. Akira isn't that embarrasing, trdsf!

[fluid socket]

Oh, much older than that.

[fluid delta]

.. Astroboy?

[fluid socket]

Not quite that old but close.

[scenic quarry]

dragon ball

[fluid socket]

Eurgh.

[fluid delta]

hmm?

[fluid socket]

I loathe Dragonball. Which is why it baffles me that the same creator did Dr Slump, which I did like.

Guess they can't all be winners. ;)

[scenic quarry]

have you watched miss kobayashi?

[fluid socket]

Kagaku Ninja-tai Gatchaman — first encountered as the mistranslation 'Battle of the Planets', it was, uh, mindblowing to see it correctly translated. XD

[fluid socket]

Never heard of it.

[scenic quarry]

do old anime are better than new ones?

[fluid socket]

I'll only say that by and large I prefer old anime to new. I mean, that's a subjective call.

[scenic quarry]

whats your favoritre modern anime?

[fluid socket]

I don't have one. I watch very little TV, and what I do is mostly science docos, British panel shows, and MST3K.

[scenic quarry]

have you watched the moomin or sailor moon?

[fluid socket]

*shudders violently at mention of Sailor Moon* *hiss* *makes sign of the cross*

[fluid delta]

lol

[fluid socket]

My ex-wife was, and still is, a huge Sailor Moon fan. She used to get tapes sent to her in the mid-90s from friends in Japan. I went to another room and read when she watched them.

[scenic quarry]

do your ex-wife watch madoka magica? the 1000 better verwsion of the sailor moon

[fluid socket]

The other two anime I grew up on were Mach GoGoGo (aka Speed Racer) and Kaitei Shōnen Marin (Marine Boy, the first color anime to come to the US). I don't know if she does or not. We just celebrated the 30th anniversary of our divorce. XD

<- is not only older than dirt but voted against it.

<- notes that ex-wife and I get along much better apart than we did together. *shrug*

I never missed Marine Boy when I was 4-5. Fortunately it ran just before I had to leave for kindergarten. XD

One of my prized possessions is a postcard signed by Corrine Orr (Marine Boy in Marine Boy, Trixie and Spritle in Speed Racer) and Peter Fernandez (Piper/Dr Mariner in Marine Boy, Speed Racer/Racer X in Speed Racer).

(withdraws from Wikipedia before falling down a rabbit hole he couldn't get out of with a Saturn V launch vehicle)

[fickle oyster]

Is there a consensus for best augmentations beyond squid and capybara?

[sinful delta]

Fingolas

[dreamy echo]

nah elgondir is way better

[fickle oyster]

If you guys are talking to me I don't see those lol

[sinful delta]

oh shit I didn’t mean to leak fingolas

[fluid delta]

raises an eyebrow

[dreamy echo]

wait glorminel exists

i forgot about glorminel

[noble dune]

hey

[dreamy echo]

hello

[wicked sequoia]

Shouldnt this whole conversation supposed to be on general? I'm trying to find a chat that actually talks about the game

[fluid delta]

This chat does.. if you have a question about the game, go for it. But in between game talk, when that’s not happening, other topics get discussed. As to #🏠-general it’s just crazy stuff over there, have a look for yourself..

[wicked sequoia]

I still think the whole conversation should be on general so the people on this chat wouldn't be confused

[strange lark]

Absolutely true

but cells chat people have generalphobia

So they just kind of do general 2 here which is not really the point of this channel

[wicked sequoia]

So true dude

[amber canyon]

Is it a phobia if it's justified?

Anyway, did anyone have a cells question?

Huh. Just had a quick scan over the last day of General - it actually looks like conversation, not random posting for XP or full of people I've blocked. Maybe I'll be brave ... Or maybe I'll wait and see if it lasts ...

[wicked sequoia]

Guys is it ok to rank up silver and gold cards in mesozoic valley even if I still hadn't had a prestige?

[amber canyon]

Yup. It'll help.you get to level 50. And you'll keep gold and silver trait cards (and mutagen) during a prestige.

[mild furnace]

they transfer to the next prestige

so ye u should absolutely

[nocturne steeple]

I wish fungus among us stayed

It's my favourite exploration hub one

[woven agate]

Nah Ong it's so good

[nocturne steeple]

I wish it was part of the primary sim after unlocking the fungus

[wraith terrace]

Wdym? It will return. Eventually, that is.

[wraith terrace]

You're right, but sometimes, convos that start here drift into other topics and no one remembers to move into general

[nocturne steeple]

Yeaa but I want it forever

[azure turtle]

Even if someone asks them to move into #🏠-general then the discussion dies fast for some reason

[woven agate]

Understandably tbh

[noble dune]

when do i get placed in a division in an evenet?

is it when i just open, or earn my first buck, or first upgrade?

[amber canyon]

When you make your first collection(e.g. tap or golden thingy).

[noble dune]

gotcha

[short copper]

I think mine is Extinctions / Apocalypse.

So when is that update they said was going to be several days ago gonna be here? What is the timeline now?

[fluid delta]

They didn’t that I saw? Where did you see this? The next update I know about is the Reality Engine revamp, which is “this Fall”, so probably October (which starts late next week)

[short copper]

In alpha. But it was probably not official. Just people too excited to accept it’s not here yet.

[fluid delta]

Ah ok. There’s bound to be changes in Alpha.. it’s why Alpha exists after all: to fix bugs and rearrange nodes and their costs and whatnot.

[amber canyon]

https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1200105238208708668

[mild furnace]

hello

[fluid delta]

mornin'

[gray yew]

hi

[fluid delta]

Anyone else here in Div#143 this event?

[weak tulip]

So close, i'm in 145

[fluid delta]

heh, I shoulda started slightly later. Still, they’re close enough that our experiences should be comparable

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[weak tulip]

#125 now, catching up rather quickly. will see where i am at tomorrow

[fluid delta]

I’m at #15 but I would probably be up to #10 if I raised all my generators to about the current point

[weak tulip]

if someone has finished the event more than once before, do additional badges speed it up even more?

[fluid delta]

yes

the speed boost is right there on your event screen. Typically 30% per time you did the event, I think? Up until you pass 200% that is, then the rate of improvement slows down a bit

[gray yew]

There's a chart.

[gray yew]

Though (and you might already know this) the badge boost only applies to the event you got it from.
In other words, Cheese badges won't work for Fungus, and Fungus badges won't work for Cheese.

etc.

[weak tulip]

hmm i don't see my speed boost

[weak tulip]

the 1% also doesn't count?

[gray yew]

The new boost only applies the next time you go round. Or has the green number not appeared or smthn?

[gray yew]

Oh, no, that one does apply. I'm like 99% sure.

[weak tulip]

ok

i am not sure where i should be looking

[gray yew]

Well, that "green number" should be appearing in the black box at the top, yunno, the one that tells you what your objectives are and that and how much currency you're making.

Unless it's your first time with an event. In which case, the green number won't appear until your second time round.

[weak tulip]

ahh ok

and aha, top 5 after upgrading all my low cost gens

[gray yew]

yay

[fluid delta]

See where it says 208% ? That’s where it should be on yours

[weak tulip]

ah okay, yeah i never seen that. but makes sense as i never repeated an event

so it doesn't apply to challenge levels of the first time you play an event?

[fluid delta]

nope, only on the next time you play the event

[weak tulip]

roger

[fluid delta]

so howevermany weeks that is.. or just 1 if you’re lucky but it’s usually many more than that

[weak tulip]

well, for no boost i'm holding up pretty well i guess

[fluid delta]

you are!

[toxic burrow]

Does anyone know where is he? i cant find him

[weak tulip]

you can just click on the arrows until the name pops up green

[gray yew]

Try going into the garden, and then clicking/tapping on his icon in the "buy" menu. It should take you to 'em.

[weak tulip]

oh didn't even think of that

[gray yew]

dw
its not obvious

[distant jolt]

Will our progress in beta stay after the reality reboot goes live?

[fluid delta]

I assume not, it would merge beta/alpha with live in a way that wouldn’t be fair to those that didn’t partake (like myself).. but i don’t actually know the official answer

.. though I say that and maybe beta progress will stay separate and intact as it’s own thing? That I could see, but again, idk

(but maybe ask this in #💬-beta-chat

[native cargo]

Some of the dinosaurs really just got put in random corners 🙏

[sinful delta]

well it did so with events and beyond ranks

and the beyond itself

but I see your point

[weak tulip]

@fluid delta so how you doing in 143?

[fluid delta]

#5 with 3674 science, Challenge Level 2. But I haven't bought all the generators I could. How are you doing?

[weak tulip]

#3 with 3444, also level 2.

[fluid delta]

nice!!

[weak tulip]

guess i got the easier division heh

[fluid delta]

heh yeah seems so, even though you started only a little later (half hour?) than I did. I knew I should have waited longer before starting

.. but i got impatient

[fluid delta]

I'm on the next generator, with 173.30 T/sec income

[weak tulip]

makes sense that you're slightly ahead

[fluid delta]

except.. I'm not in the sense of the ranking

[weak tulip]

my gens are pretty much reasonably maxed atm

[fluid delta]

Yeah most of mine aren't. Just leveled Fungi (4 sec per addition now) bc I got that Yeast node

[sinful delta]

all those backgrounds touch each other here

[weak tulip]

i usually update the cheap ones once in a while, holding mouse on buy until my balance goes down

[fluid delta]

I wait until the end of the level, unless a node that's important needs it

Fungi of the Forest is a wierd one, in that I've only needed 1 of it.

[weak tulip]

yeah after the big updates, but it's fine to update them earlier as long as you don't overby

keeps my leaderboard possition more accurate

[fluid delta]

ah, but stealthing (when you can) is useful. Your potential competitors might not notice!

[weak tulip]

eh, i am not sure it makes a difference

i mean competing for #1 is a silly idea imo

[fluid delta]

depends.. if you are fighting for 1-5 place, it does. Yes, it's silly, I agree.. but.. if you're around 10th place, not so silly then!!

[weak tulip]

just top 3 pretty much secures top 10 even if you go to sleep

[fluid delta]

Hmm.. yes.. but... maybe. It depends.

[weak tulip]

well, tbf, it would only my third top 10, so what do i know

[fluid delta]

But yes you are usually right. On the other hand, if there's a couple nights to go, you might not be able to make up the losing ground

.. though maybe you can. idk. better to be sure than guess?

[weak tulip]

oh sure, i mean, if you go to sleep and event ents

ends*

[fluid delta]

that yeah. ideally i prefer to end a challenge level right before sleep so that I can add on the benefit of hours away on top of it in the morning

[weak tulip]

yeah, hard to get that timing right. i rather start an event 24h+ after in the early evening when i'm around to babysit it for some hours

that got me into the top 10 each time so far

[fluid delta]

nodnod

[weak tulip]

i sure won't finish challenge level 2 before going to sleep

[fluid delta]

how long from now is that?

[weak tulip]

unless i spend like all my cubes on time warps lol

[fluid delta]

nono don't do that

[weak tulip]

hm maybe 3h or so

yea lol i won't

[fluid delta]

oh ok well.. you might? not sure

[weak tulip]

i know i don't need to

nah, considering how long it took me to go through it the first time...

this one should take 2x as long if i understand the math correctly

[fluid delta]

that sounds right

rewards are higher each CL as well

(inside the event i mean)

[weak tulip]

in the money one i almost got to challenge level 4

but i started on day one andfinished #26 lol

won't do that again heh

[fluid delta]

yeah I got to CL5 I think in one not too long ago, I forget precisely. This one is going fast, the same might be possible

[weak tulip]

was in one of the very first divisions lol

[fluid delta]

yep! so was I..

[weak tulip]

i think i will keep on starting on day two of the event until i have a repeat event then i can maybe try day 3 starts

[fluid delta]

nodnod

[weak tulip]

although i can actually try that next time already. since i think i can reliably get top 10 on the first day if i keep my strategy

and in theory, day 3 divisions should be even easier?

[fluid delta]

in theory yeah

[weak tulip]

might as well just test it

[fluid delta]

might as well!

[weak tulip]

ah!

didn't know you could just add people lol

[fluid delta]

heh I will add you

[weak tulip]

i think i really need to buy the nanocat

no regrets.

[fluid delta]

heh

[weak tulip]

ohh i can see you on the "map" now

fun feature

[fluid delta]

mmhmm

[weak tulip]

if you buy 1x gen somewhere do you move for me?

[fluid delta]

buy 1 fungal living

[weak tulip]

oh, nvm, you don't move when updating gens

[fluid delta]

oh ok

[weak tulip]

diff in primary i think

i guess in events it shows the last unlocked node/gen

[fluid delta]

maybe? i haven't thought to find out

[weak tulip]

i moved now since i unlocked a new gen

[gray yew]

Well the space has to be filled somehow

[weak tulip]

i find mezo kinda boring, i am not even much motivated in finishing to 50

it's just repetitive clicky things

[strange wing]

e

[sinful delta]

True

They should get rid of the prestige system or at least just give you a good reward for finishing it

[weak tulip]

beyond is so much better. certain design choices.

[native cargo]

Beyond is what meso wishes it could be

[weak tulip]

in beyond i always looked forward to the next episode. in mezo... i dread it

[fluid delta]

at least once you have all 550 of Meso, it's done, and you never have to look at it again

but yeah it needs some design love

[weak tulip]

i am very unlikely to even try that

[fluid delta]

you don't need to design it, just do Meso.. 5500x multiplier in Primary, remember!

[weak tulip]

ugh

i need the nanobots auto build first

[fluid delta]

patpat.. ugh that thing is useless

[weak tulip]

it is? 😮

[fluid delta]

IMO yeah. I hate it. Next time I'm not going to get that node

[weak tulip]

i thought it would just insta buy all dinos

[fluid delta]

No.. or at least it didn't for me. It just buys what it thinks you want.. and it's probably wrong

[weak tulip]

lol

good to know

[fluid delta]

Look at it this way: if you want to get all the nodes in RE and not wait a literal couple years for that last node (assuming it doesn't change in the revamp), you need to do all 550 of meso

the prestige levels themselves do go faster.. you'll see

[weak tulip]

yeah but mezo is just boring. buy one from each to the top rank (don't forget volcano) and then buy max of your top producer and wait

[fluid delta]

yeah, but it usually isn't waiting that long, esp if you buy the cards every 5 generators or so to a cheap level

[weak tulip]

i mean the same is kinda true for beyond but the progression was much more involving

i don't rank up anything much really

[fluid delta]

then.. that'll make things slower for you. you don't need to rank them up far, but the early ones are really cheap. up to you though, play as you wish ofc

[weak tulip]

i could finish this level now probably, but meh..

[fluid delta]

wait.. you have been ranking them up, and using expensive ones too. You might not want to do that

[weak tulip]

i have so much nutagen though

[fluid delta]

.. no you don't

[weak tulip]

hm so save more? for what?

[sinful delta]

I have like 10m

Nutagen

[weak tulip]

meh, lol

[fluid delta]

you mean mutations or whatever it's called? You only have 63k

[weak tulip]

Mutagen I think?

i cracked the geodes i got from top 10 finishes

[fluid delta]

compare that to the price of improving higher rank cards, and consider that you will probably improve 10 cards each time you go through a meso prestige level

[weak tulip]

is giganta the last?

[final spindle]

ye

[weak tulip]

Gigano

[fluid delta]

(oc always improve silver and gold where it's not too expensive, bc those carry over to all prestige levels in meso)

[weak tulip]

yeah ofc

[fluid delta]

(and it's those that help make prestige levels zoom later on)

[weak tulip]

except the tap one cause i never use it

[fluid delta]

anyway, up to you if you do Meso prestige or not.. you now know the benefit and the pain, so.. 🙂

[sinful delta]

whenever you have time try to work on Mesozoic valley

[weak tulip]

is use my autoclicker on events, not mezo, fuck that lol

[sinful delta]

You never know when they add 10 more prestiges so I recommend you try to finish it all to get prepared for anything that happens to it

[fluid delta]

oh lord PLEASE they had better not do that. That sounds... horrible

(likewise with Beyond and Prestige, that would be awful too)

[livid gulch]

Is there a new code?

[fluid delta]

for what?

[livid gulch]

I want more

[fluid delta]

ah!! Nah, not so far. There's the usual 25 you get every 2 weeks bc dailies, but the news stuff is only +2 when that happens

(I forget if you get some by just playing Primary/Beyond/Meso, since I've been current on those for months.. Events don't get you any though)

[strange wing]

Each simulation level gives 2

[fluid delta]

oh yeah, forgot about that one. Still, that's only about 100 max.. well, 106 I guess

[south tulip]

hmm

[fluid delta]

hmm?

[tribal spruce]

Bro i stuck in Qdc, what should do

[noble dune]

what happens if i dont collect?

[strange wing]

Rank 26 nice

[rapid island]

I do Phase 2 faster than Phase 1 lol

[wraith terrace]

What happens is: nothing. You don't get the x3 payout bonus and have wasted your resources, but nothing happens.

[amber canyon]

I think that improves the nanobots. If you have all the nanobots they're an easy way to get through Meso quicker. (Not using the buyer, I don't use that - just setting them off).

[wraith orchid]

Wsp

[mild furnace]

u wont get the darwinium dark matter and possible star fragments

[thorn sapphire]

Help

[mild furnace]

with what

[sullen hill]

Another issue: Please stop not saving the offline earnings in events because the game is making me lose the events on purpose, and I need to spend 10 Darwinium cubes to recover 1 hour of money, please fix this. It's the 2nd time that this happens

[strange wing]

a

[thorn sapphire]

i lost 3Years of This Game

[strange wing]

Try to log in to your account and reload any saves you have in the save manager or local save. If you don't see any, make sure you logged the right account you have that 3-year progress. If you did everything above and still do not see any save or can't load any progress. Please contact the dev for that

Hopefully this can solve ur problem

[lofty harness]

help, it doesnt want me to play the game

i clicked a button that makes the game stop playing and now idk what to do

[strange wing]

Click that button again to make it run the game

[lofty harness]

ok

its doing nothing

[strange wing]

Restart steam, and restart your device

[nocturne dome]

Hello 👋

[strange wing]

e

[unreal quarry]

You can talk in Polish in #🇵🇱-polski if you want

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[wraith star]

ddlc in the big 25 ❤️‍🩹 🌹 🥹 ✌️

[wraith star]

but ddlc is fire

[lofty harness]

fr

how can i get more of these green things¿

[woven agate]

Just reset

👍

[lofty harness]

everytime i reset i get more of them¿

or something like that

[fluid delta]

basically, do all the things in the game. buy nodes in reality engine when you can afford them, and once you've done that, reset the simulation so the new nodes activate

[lofty harness]

im playing in the beta game rn

ohmygod

i love i

t

[weak tulip]

you sped ahead. weirdly i didn't even lose a place in 24h

[fluid delta]

heh well.. i did complete the CL last night before bed like I intended. What rank are you at?

[weak tulip]

still #3

[fluid delta]

I'm at #2.. with stuff unclaimed. I'm on CL3

[weak tulip]

yeah i can see that

i probably won't try hard anymore, top 10 should be pretty secure

[fluid delta]

I'm further in CL3 than I expected to be at this point today, actually.

Yes.. true..

[lofty harness]

what are these things dude

[fluid delta]

those are generators you don't have access to yet.. it's just letting you know that they exist

[lofty harness]

ohhh

okei

[fluid delta]

Also, I see you are playing in Beta (alpha?).. so specific questions about that content should go to #💬-beta-chat or whatever the alpha one is, if you're in that

[lofty harness]

ty

[weak tulip]

Hmm how do you get Bacteriophage?

[fluid delta]

You play Beta/Alpha

[weak tulip]

ahh kk

yeah i'll just wait. shouldn't be long.

[fluid delta]

It is nice they're expanding primary though.. should make things more interesting once Reality Revamp + Legacy Protocol 🙂

[lofty harness]

yea

im having fun while playing beta

[fluid delta]

release should be soon, hopefully in a few weeks

[woven agate]

Basically yeah, the production increases on every reset (Assuming you bought everything available)

[gleaming dragon]

what

[fluid delta]

?

[gleaming dragon]

what is objective 1.8?

[lofty harness]

are there any manul cats in the game¿

[gray yew]

Manual cats?

[lofty harness]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-pallas-cat-manul-cat-gif-26136871

[gray yew]

Fix The Naming System i guess?

[lofty harness]

these things

[gray yew]

Oh...no, no there aren't.

[lofty harness]

☹️

[gleaming dragon]

i was on objective 18 but when i entered the beta and left, its objective 1.8

i dont think thats the naming system

[gray yew]

i was making a joke

[gleaming dragon]

oh yeah? well - .... . .-. . / .-- .- ... / -. --- - .... .. -. --. / .... . .-. . / -. --- / .-. . .- ... --- -. / - --- / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / - .... .. ...

[gray yew]

...i dont get it

[proud berry]

Well then.

[sinful delta]

nice one

[gray yew]

okay
now i get it

[sinful delta]

Do not ask questions in #🏆-share-your-prestige, instead, ask questions in #💬-cells-chat.

@lorria

@unkempt wagon

[brazen junco]

Waiting 4 update

[woven agate]

you really gotta tell them daily

[gleaming dragon]

uTau ceti.

[mild furnace]

chat

i bought a 5kg salmon

im gonna cut it up wish me luck

[gray yew]

Gl

[rare spindle]

yall drop your usernames so I can add you as a friend

[fluid delta]

that's a big fish!!

(well, a big salmon at least)

[wraith terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-theres-always-a-bigger-fish-the-phantom-menace-gif-15951236

[fluid delta]

except... not?

[gray yew]

Whaddya think a salmon is? A mammal?

(/lighthearted
/joke)

[lofty harness]

in the next next update they should add the best animal ever... (manul pallas cats)

just saying

[gray yew]

oh pallas's cats

yeah they have those
kinda

in the cat event

[lofty harness]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-cute-cat-cute-cat-anger-gif-21607786

[lofty harness]

amazing

cant wait for the cat event

[gray yew]

itll come round eventually

[mild furnace]

i did it

i got 14 fillets

2.2kgs of pure meat

and 2.2 of bones and meat

so thats gonna be soup and other stuff

[gray yew]

That’s a lotta fish

Good job

[heavy river]

Hi

[fluid delta]

Hi!

[weak tulip]

your badge boost sure shows, you are so much faster lol

[fluid delta]

heh.. it is true

[weak tulip]

what position are you now?

[weak tulip]

and how close are you to finishing CL3?

your at or near the last node

[fluid delta]

I'm 9/11 of the way through. Position #3 but I have maybe 3000 science unclaimed

[weak tulip]

i'm sitting on #4 now, not much to claim atm, just saving

[fluid delta]

nodnod

[torpid yew]

k i’m back

is there a beyond beta test thing

or does it end at 28

[sinful delta]

It’s still at 28 for now

[torpid yew]

dang

do we know when a beyond update is coming

??

[weak tulip]

"winter"

[fluid delta]

but the reality engine revamp (and Primary additions, looks like) will be "fall", which could mean next month, if we're fortunate

[gray yew]

CL3?

[weak tulip]

challenge level 3

[gray yew]

ah okay

[gray yew]

9/11? I thought there were only 9 objectives in the fungus event?

[weak tulip]

huh i have 11 also

[fluid delta]

Yep, 11. I wasn't paying attention when I started the event. Did it have 9? Probably. But CL2+ yields science, not logits and badges, so it stands to reason it'd be different

[weak tulip]

ah

[strange wing]

9

[gray yew]

k

[strange wing]

Ig the req increases when they do challenge

[fluid delta]

ok, CL3 essentially done

[weak tulip]

but you'll won't proceed until tomorrow?

[fluid delta]

oh I will.. but just letting it run for a half hour or so to get some more science for the generators

(and claim the "hidden" science)

[weak tulip]

ah okay, i thought you'd let it run overnight

[fluid delta]

I did last night.. but it's done now

[weak tulip]

not sure if that is mathematicallly better

[fluid delta]

so I will for CL4

it is

eyeballing it, it is obvious

[weak tulip]

yeah my timing is just off again, won't be able to finish it. i should still be safe nonetheless

[fluid delta]

nodnod

[weak tulip]

you could probably just stop now and still keep top 10

after upgrading/progressing

[fluid delta]

maybe I will.. we'll see

[weak tulip]

aha, you're in CL4 now

[fluid delta]

yes i am!

and went from #3 to #1, but that's not a big deal

[weak tulip]

clout lol

[fluid delta]

lol

[weak tulip]

mind if i dm?

[fluid delta]

go ahead

[proud berry]

Episodes 29 & 30 of the Beyond will release in the winter (northern hemisphere)/summer (southern hemisphere) of 2025-2026, after the Reality Reboot.

[midnight harness]

Yo how to save and restart?

[fluid delta]

it automatically saves it's state on mobile at least.. I assume it does on Steam, but idk. However, there is also the save manager where you can save the save to CL's servers.

[midnight harness]

So i don’t have to make an account?

[fluid delta]

You probably should if you want to make sure that your game state is saved somewhere else on your device...

[midnight harness]

What’s the website for app called?

Cells.com or something?

[sinful delta]

https://celltosingularity.com

[midnight harness]

Thank you. 🙏

Dame the grinding for higher levels is a lot.

[fluid delta]

you mean for events?

[midnight harness]

No. Just on the tree.

The entropy traps got me.

[fluid delta]

not sure which you mean..

[midnight harness]

Costs trillions just to get higher DNA output. God dame, the inflation rate.

[fluid delta]

do you mean the Primary sim? The part that starts with DNA and gets more complex from there?

[midnight harness]

Yeah. Inflation rate is off the charts.

[fluid delta]

Well.. are you new to the game?

[midnight harness]

Installed it maybe a week or two ago.

Didn’t know this server existed or was confused by its existence.

[fluid delta]

ah ok.. it's like this: the main loop is do stuff on Primary and get as far as you reasonably can.. that (currently) generates metabits. Once you've got some, you go to the Reality Engine, and spend metabits on nodes that increase the multiplier on Primary. You then "Reboot the Simulation" (pressing the button tells you how much the multiplier increases and gives you a chance to back out). Then it'll restart Primary with those improvements. Rinse 'n repeat. There's also 3 other trees called Meso, Beyond, and Events/Explore.. when you get to those you'll want to do that too (and you'll see nodes in Reality Engine that use them). That's basically the game in terms of making the numbers go up 🙂

[midnight harness]

Still… the inflation man.

[fluid delta]

Nah.. the way the numbers go up (not really inflation) isn't a big deal. You'll see!

What do you play the game on?

(I personally think iPad is the best Cells experience, but that's just my opinion)

[weak tulip]

unless you're stuck in beyond 28 heh

[fluid delta]

lol.. but that's just waiting for Beyond 29, it has nothing to do with playing the game as such

[weak tulip]

i know, i was being funny

or tried to

[midnight harness]

iPhone.

[weak tulip]

nah, steam rules 😎

[fluid delta]

oh ok. Something to be aware of: the ad boost is substantial (2x), and if you do more than 16 hrs of ad benefit (4 ads), it'll jump up to a 4x bonus. It's visually obvious once it does it, but it's not obvious at all that 4x is a thing

And nah, no point on Steam, there's WAY better games on PC 🙂

[midnight harness]

I beg to differ. My output is only in the billions and I need trillions or quadrillions to grow. Inflation rate here is ludicrous.

[weak tulip]

i don't consider CtS a "game" per really

[fluid delta]

Agreed

[weak tulip]

it's more of a side activity

[fluid delta]

I guess it depends on what you mean by inflation. At any rate, it's by design, else if you got one generator, you could practically get them all at the same time, if it didn't have something like exponential growth

[weak tulip]

as a rule of thumb, only invest in your top generatir

[fluid delta]

yeah.. or: do the obvious things that make the numbers go up fastest.

[weak tulip]

well, there are somekey things to increase productions

[midnight harness]

Do entropy traps decrease it?

[weak tulip]

first top producer is usually crocodiles, then lizards.. then you want whales and cats

[midnight harness]

Yeah I have none of those. 😭

[weak tulip]

you need to proceed through mezo to unlock crocodiles

[fluid delta]

Eh, you'll get them in time. The whole point of an idle game is to make the numbers go up, while the game is.. idle... much of the time, while you go do something else 🙂

[midnight harness]

I have humans and reptiles. Numbers still too low.

[weak tulip]

reptile is the path to lizard and crocs

you want those

[fluid delta]

maybe perhaps not spoil it too much, let them discover it for themselves?

[weak tulip]

lizards are better than cyborgs which is kinda funny

[midnight harness]

I think I might restart. The entropy traps are probably why my productivity is so low.

[weak tulip]

ahh well .. i am never sure on when to put spoiler tags on anymore

[midnight harness]

I’m just annoyed and confused, where are the insects?

[weak tulip]

there are no insects 🙁

[fluid delta]

yet

[midnight harness]

Evolution has lied too me!

Fuck install flat earth!

[fluid delta]

the game is an evolving thing (heh)

[midnight harness]

Too slow. Evolution is too traditionalist.

Fuck me.

😡

We need speed.

[fluid delta]

If the game is too slow for you, then perhaps Idle games aren't your thing? Understandable if so

[midnight harness]

Nah, I want the game faster. Hardware go zoom.

[fluid delta]

liaravoice That's.... not how it works. /liaravoice

I suppose you could get a newer model iphone! (joke)

[midnight harness]

In this economy? No. /semi jk

[fluid delta]

That's ok. Upgrading your PC is probably a smarter deal. Unless you get a 5090

[midnight harness]

Now how do I restart my game?

[fluid delta]

Same way you force close any iphone app

[midnight harness]

Swipe up. It just closes it.
Do I have to delete the app?

[fluid delta]

no

same as any iphone/ipad app: swipe up, then select and flick the app up off the screen. relaunch as usual

(that's a force close and relaunch)

Now, if you are talking about nuking your entire save/all progress, then yeah, delete the app including data, then redownload

.. not sure why you would want to do that unless you want to stop playing, but..

if you want to move your account to another device, then it's best to use the save manager built into the game

[native cargo]

i agree

[midnight harness]

I’m surprised there’s no reset option. Must’ve been in oversight.

[fluid delta]

In that regard, it’s pretty standard these days. Even Steam games on PC are often a hassle to reset, unless you forgo Steam saves and save locally instead. Mobile (or at least iOS/iPadOS) often don’t even offer that

[forest schooner]

I have a question. How to unlock scorpions, spiders, butterflies etc. I've tried but I can't

[sinful delta]

You can’t

For now

[forest schooner]

Ok

[amber canyon]

If you're asking about alpha/beta ask in https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/1377666884895248544

Or https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/545344551095894028

[gray yew]

There is, I think.
In the settings.
“Delete Save” or smthn.

By the way, welcome to the game/side activity
And welcome to the server

[torpid yew]

oh damn

thanks

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[clever vault]

why would anyone suggest that?

[fluid delta]

he's been repeating it here for weeks now. I have no idea why. Some people have obscure senses of humor.

[clever vault]

seems my detector is broken in that case.

[unreal quarry]

Suggest what? Did it get deleted?

[fluid delta]

The "I am not dead" bit

[clever vault]

not that I am aware of, or it must've happened rather quickly, did check this channel less than 5 min before "that"post.

[unreal quarry]

Oh

I thought it was something in #💡-suggestions

Got a little confused, because I didn't see anything weird in there, but yeah, now that you mention it, they have been going with it for some time now

[clever vault]

and he still doesn't make any clarification comment at all.....

[fluid delta]

Some people are just strange

[lethal trout]

welcome

[amber canyon]

I'd always assumed it was something to do with the 'Truth or Dare' channel 🤷.

[proud berry]

He once said something about a "content drought." I don't know if that's related or not.

[gray yew]

Hi

[fiery wing]

maybe hes just not dead

[lethal trout]

funny picture for everyone

[sinful delta]

Hornet but I couldn’t afford it

[gray yew]

Hornet with drip

[jolly kettle]

inhale

SHAW

[noble dune]

i lose the cards and the rank up resource purple orbs i was supposed to get with them too? or will i be able to rank up again after next reset?

[wraith terrace]

If you don't claim your rewards, you don't get your rewards. You can level any gen as high as you can reach in every new episode, that is not dependent on the max level you reached before.

[amber canyon]

Start?

Got my 3 badges for this event. Not gonna be able to keep in top ten though ... No chance of logging in the last 6 hours of the event, and I need to sleep 😥. Unless y'all in div 205 just stop playing?

Having said that, the events are seeming a bit easier the last month (except for that weird week, whenever that was). Wonder if most of those who'd be normally be high in the rankings have shifted to playing the alpha/beta. Or starting ~24h before the end is a Good Time.

[weak tulip]

should be able to easily hold top 10. even if i stopped now but i think i can finish CL3 tonight

[amber canyon]

Next time Fungus comes around, it'll most likely be my first event with over 200% badge boost... I get to celebrate ... Diminishing returns. Whoop!

I still can't understand those who now have 72 badges for this event. That means they've played it 24 times 👀.

[weak tulip]

pah, who needs badges 🙂

[amber canyon]

Lol. I do. Cos I like being lazy efficient. And it's slightly interesting to see how much quicker it gets each time I do an event (assuming same effort). But I don't like them that much.

[noble dune]

thanks for mentioning the opportunity to earn constellation stars. i think i ranked up 150 times, and got 5 stars and 30 dw,

[weak tulip]

it was a bit of a snarky comment. they will certainly be welcome cause i need to babysit the game less to make top 10

[fluid delta]

CL4 is as far as I can get this event, i think

[amber canyon]

Yeah. Less babysitting or shorter time playing is Def a good thing once you play events for the 3rd (or more) time.

[noble dune]

what is the probability of getting a star fragment after ranking up in beyond?

or dw

[fluid delta]

start what?

[noble dune]

i think i only got it on 15th rank of any. but it wasnt consistent

[amber canyon]

I've still never got beyond CL2! And don't ever intend to. Not even for funsies.

[weak tulip]

i would think like less than 5%

[fluid delta]

yeah fair enough.. it's kinda something i sorta inadvertently do sometimes, when focusing on other things

[noble dune]

im almost at cl3. i log in way too often

div 150

and still fighting for top 10 sighs

[fluid delta]

Div 143 here, #1, science 15851 but lots unclaimed. currently waiting 6 hrs for the node I need

and CL4

[noble dune]

what node? what unclaimed?

you mean unclaimed mission rewards? but what node?

[fluid delta]

antibiotics costing 25.60CC, I make 221.16AA/sec. And yes, that's what I mean + generators I haven't needed to get up to current

.. so, maybe another 4000 science

[weak tulip]

6hr? omg, okay i may not get to cl4 heh

[fluid delta]

yeah, this event is kinda wierd that way

[noble dune]

how many mind altering fungi do you have?

[weak tulip]

although nanobots and autoclick gives 10x production boost

[fluid delta]

zero at this CL

[noble dune]

how many autoclicking pointers do you leave?

[weak tulip]

wdym?

[amber canyon]

It's a White Dwarf (stage 2) or Red Dwarf (stage 1) you get isn't it?

The wiki says 10% chance for a constellation fragment for both.

I recall that that's then a 1% chance of 2 fragments; and a 0.2% chance for 3 etc. it's not capped like the constellation mission afaik.

[amber canyon]

It's a White Dwarf (stage 2) or Red Dwarf (stage 1) you get isn't it?

The wiki says 10% chance for a constellation fragment for both.

I recall that that's then a 1% chance of 2 fragments; and a 0.1% chance for 3 etc. it's not capped like the constellation mission afaik.

[noble dune]

do yall stay a while to get that extra upgrades in your current cl before going to next? how long max is worth waiting after getting that final node?

[fluid delta]

I wait maybe 15 minutes yes

(offline, then the ad boost on return)

(or overnight if i finish it, late)

[noble dune]

yeah red dwarf in my case. i certainly didnt get 15 fragments in 150 or so rank ups. ffs RnG

[fluid delta]

but there are exceptions, like Apocalyse event

[weak tulip]

you waiting on alcohol?

[fluid delta]

no, Antibiotics

[noble dune]

what is the semblance secret thing?

role?

[weak tulip]

ah. was alcohol the last node you unlocked?

[wispy sun]

This game so slow does existe any cheat

[fluid delta]

no, last was.. yeast, i think?

[azure turtle]

You know that you're on the official server of this game, right?

[fluid delta]

don't be a wuss. the whole point of an idle game is to take your time.

[weak tulip]

yeast? i unlocked that a while ago... that can't have been it

yeast only costs 32 qa

[fluid delta]

not sure. my only options atm are antibiotics or alcohol nodes, or starting unwelcome fungi generator

no, yeast for me was 128AA

[weak tulip]

just trying to figure out why you are at this position on the map. as as far as i can see your avatar is always at the last node you unlocked.

huh, in CL3?

[fluid delta]

CL4

[weak tulip]

ahhh

ofc you are in 4 already lol

i thought you were still in 3

[fluid delta]

Alcohol is as your screenshot shows it for me, except it costs more 🙂

[noble dune]

is that the event you have inly 2 badges of?

[fluid delta]

no, that's Cryptids, the "mini" event

[weak tulip]

is your avatar in the same place in your game?

[noble dune]

yo how are you the finder of semblances secret?

[fluid delta]

This Fungus event is kinda wierd bc there's nodes that jump up the income by a huge amount. Antibiotics is one of them (by about 100x)

[fluid delta]

yes

[weak tulip]

it's why i assumed you unlocked alcohol last

[azure turtle]

Found all secret achievements

[fluid delta]

nope. it's visible but not unlocked. I don't have the income for it yet

[amber canyon]

You"re beating me there too. I only have 1 cryptid badge. I was a newbie when it was around last year and didn't realise there was any point to playing events again. Then was busy in May.

[noble dune]

whats the roblox code thing?

[weak tulip]

hm ok i don't really know how the avatar positions work i guess lol

[fluid delta]

maybe it puts you at the most recent revealed? not sure myself, tbh