💬-cells-chat

[elder elbow]

i can hit like 50 taps a second

[woven agate]

Doubt it buddy

[elder elbow]

but after around 5 min it stops for like 30 seconds

[weak tulip]

around 5ms is the limit on the steam version

[elder elbow]

i added a 0

[woven agate]

Was thinking that

[elder elbow]

idk ill try on pc then if its vesiable

[weak tulip]

depends on the tap power but it can give a significant boost. same with the nanobots especially if they are maxed

[woven agate]

Yeah idk about pc either

[elder elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-gif-23054936

[weak tulip]

man beyond 24 will take forever due to the astronomy missions.

[woven agate]

Skarkgaming pre-built ahh

[weak tulip]

at least i got a 5x boost

[woven agate]

Oh, i just got to 24

[weak tulip]

yeah if you look at the missions you will see the requirement to complete 15 astronomy missions

that's pretty close to maxing everything

[elder elbow]

best i got is flipping 8 cps on pc rip

still; better than 2-3 persecond via fingers

[weak tulip]

in beyond, autoclick doesn't do much really. production goes up from 300 to 350

but i don't have max tap power

[gray yew]

You mean missions to get red dwarfs and dark matter, or missions to get cost reducers?

[weak tulip]

it's only relevant for the events i suppose

[woven agate]

I think I do

I got the 9x

[weak tulip]

ohh wait, it means any? d'oh i'm silly

thanks lol

i can just switch to the chepa dark matter mission

[elder elbow]

just use ur resrch bonus fr

[weak tulip]

for some reason i thought only the cost reduction missions count

yeah 5 minutes for a mission with 5x boost

[elder elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/stolen-saturdays-lost-time-waste-of-time-time-theft-dates-gif-19697389

[gray yew]

No, I was asking if it included the red dwarf ones
But if it does, then it’s easier than you think

And Dw, it seems like an easy mistake to make

[elder elbow]

dark matter 15 min quest on resrch boost mmmmmm

[weak tulip]

yeah i think it's any. 25 dark matter is 15m, with 5x means 5m

[gray yew]

Plus if you set up multiple missions at once, it gets done quicker

[elder elbow]

a 72hour missions takes a day or sum with max boost

[weak tulip]

yeah but don't want to cancel anything, i'm at 8/15 .. can do just one slot

[gray yew]

By the way, if you want my advice (and some more dark matter), do the 15 min and 1 hour dark missions repeatedly. That’s a lot of dark matter per day.

[weak tulip]

i have more dark matter than i know what do do with

i mean i could upgrade anything, but i will do that when i'm at 30

[elder elbow]

this gives me a idea.... time to make dark matter button on my phone >:)

[weak tulip]

it's completely useless to rank up the lower stuff with dark matter

[elder elbow]

me at rank 11 '

[weak tulip]

i always save it for the top gens

and yeah dark matter missions count

obv

[gray yew]

Well it’s good for storage
And myself, as I’ve said previously, I occasionally rank up the lower-level stuff so future me has an easier time next time round
But I prefer to save it for the higher-ranks

[weak tulip]

i was kinda locked into the missions that require a specific thing

[elder elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/space-deep-space-travel-gif-17417392176459173214

rank 11 pov

[weak tulip]

there's no need tho? i can insta rank up pretty much anything to my top earners

sometimes there's a 30s wait or so (alpha -> barnard) so i would upgrade alpha more but i lack the cards

[gray yew]

Yeah, there’s not much need. But I sometimes find myself short on dark matter.
Also, I just really wanna. After I took that advice, I never dropped it. Now I’ve got over 4k dark matter and counting.

[weak tulip]

i have 13k heh

will probably all go into the last gen

[gray yew]

Damn. Nice stash.

[weak tulip]

bought a couple of blackholes

always doing so when i hit 300 cubes

[gray yew]

Lucky.

I’ve never opened one of those, period.

Or had so many cubes at once. I think.

[weak tulip]

really helps speeding up the game cause of guaranteed epics and rares

and always like 2500 dark matter

[gray yew]

I can guess.

[weak tulip]

or even more, i forgot

[gray yew]

I’ve just never been able to afford one.

Or a ||blue star|| or a ||diamond geode.||

[weak tulip]

the achievements are a steady income of cubes

also the missions in beyond sometimes give a bunch of cubes

[gray yew]

I know.

Iv’ve been playing the beyond since the day it launched.

[mild furnace]

blue stars r overrated

[gray yew]

Well back then, it woulda been my dream to have one.

[mild furnace]

series 1 generators arent amazing

[gray yew]

Well, they are at the time.

[weak tulip]

well once you have the next tier you'll never buy stars again anyway

[mild furnace]

yes

at thr time

[gray yew]

Never have since.
Unless ||neutron stars|| count, purely by technicality. And ||white dwarfs.||

[gray yew]

I’m on tier 27.

[weak tulip]

as true, they are stas too. but yeah i meant the next tier

[gray yew]

Ino

But bottom line, I’ve never opened either blue star or black hole in my life.

[weak tulip]

i'll jump into 25 today. it goes way too quick

[mild furnace]

my only gripe is the fact that theres no missions for white dwarf packs

[weak tulip]

will be sad when it's over

[mild furnace]

early in series 2

[gray yew]

Again, lucky.

[mild furnace]

im on ep 19 atm

[sinful delta]

Damn is 😂 🎉

[weak tulip]

lucky?

how does luck have to do with it?

[sinful delta]

quickness

[gray yew]

Just me having a little gripe or smthn about how some players can just get through this stuff real fast

[weak tulip]

i mean, okay, if your top earner gets a boost thingy and you get the quintuple, that is lucky i guess

[gray yew]

Nothing against you, I just have some resentment.

[desert pebble]

im on 16

[gray yew]

I didn’t mean actual luck. It’s a saying/metaphor.

(I would use my tone indicators, but I’ve been discouraged from doing so.)

[mild furnace]

ep 19 is possinly the slowest its ever been with almost 0 cards per card pack and generators taking 10-15 mins for 1 rotation and upgrades costing literally 1 million times more than what i make

its impossible to do anhthing

so fucking slow

[gray yew]

That’s the Beyond for ya.

Space is vast, and the beyond is slow.

[strange wing]

Idk how can i completed the beyond lol

[mild furnace]

man i cant even boost my generators cuz my card packs give me 3 EACH

WHAT IS THIS

my cards take like 20-30 duplicates to upgrade

and these quests r so fucking aids bcz what r these prices

[gray yew]

A white dwarf.

[weak tulip]

the higher the level, the more crads you need for the next upgrade

[mild furnace]

man

[gray yew]

Expensive.

[mild furnace]

i ge tthat but im saying the pack is trash

3 cards

its a joke basically

[mild furnace]

man im aware of that my complaint is the fact i get 3 cards and im like hardstuck bcz of the fact i only get 3 cards per pack

and they arent even cards for the right upgrades either

[strange wing]

You're halfway there. Keep going, you will reach the end one day.

[mild furnace]

like fucking bernards star

[gray yew]

(Like I said, I wanted to use my tone indicators, but I’ve been discouraged from doing so. Was just worried I sounded like a jerk back there.)

[mild furnace]

nah i know what u mean just ugh fucking beyond

this is so ass bcz of the lack of cards i get

[gray yew]

Yeah, I’ve got gripes, you’ve got gripes, basically everyone has gripes with it.

[weak tulip]

yeah that one is best kinda skipped initially, tau has much better output and with cost reduction it's quite affordable soon

[mild furnace]

theres no way i can even get more cards

[sinful delta]

Do not talk in #🏆-share-your-prestige

@terse sierra

[strange wing]

[mild furnace]

tau got outclassed idk my best rn is arcturus

[weak tulip]

yeah i meant initially

[mild furnace]

since i cant for the life of me get the automation upgrade for van

ive opened 7 packs so far

nothjng

[weak tulip]

i just got 1 barnard wnd went right after tau

[sinful delta]

Also, 131 means they have completed 131 extinctions in total.

They are on Prestige 2 extinction 31

[mild furnace]

i just wanna finish ep 19

i need 5 Qvg

im making 3 tvg

that is a billion times what i make im pretty sure

[strange wing]

4x boost

[mild furnace]

how am i supposed to cope with this when no upgrades actually do anything

that doesnt matter ive been soamming 4x boost

NOTHING

it has almost a non impact

cuz it goes from 3 tvg to 12

[strange wing]

Then how can i reach ep 30 then

[mild furnace]

ifk

[fickle oyster]

i think i joined earlier these times

[sinful delta]

You don’t yet

[weak tulip]

wait until you reach googol which i disise because it fucks up my spreadsheet lol

[mild furnace]

rng for card upgrades like ill get there eventually but holy shit

[weak tulip]

unit should not exist.

[gray yew]

It was proposed by someone’s kid in the 1920s, apparently
Same thing with googolplex
Apparently

[sinful delta]

kids ruin peoples lives

[weak tulip]

oh right not in the game AFAIK

[mild furnace]

chat what do i do ive been getting such trash cards ive been able to save up 3k dark matter whihc is more than ive ever had st one time

[strange wing]

Did you miss anything in the beyond? It shouldn't be that slow

[weak tulip]

after e210 it all switches to scientific notation

[mild furnace]

how could i miss anything the game forces u to buy everything

[sinful delta]

not sure you can miss things in the beyond

it wouldn’t let you progress if so

[gray yew]

What about gold and silver cards?

[mild furnace]

i have literally no idea how to get it faster

[strange wing]

4x boost lol

[weak tulip]

pay money runs

[strange wing]

And use auto click

[sinful delta]

You don’t miss that if it’s not necessary

[weak tulip]

zeb, honestly you should be glad it's slow

it's more fun that way

[mild furnace]

ive unlocked alot of general speed boost constellation

[weak tulip]

i have too many boosts .. i actually feel it's too fast

[mild furnace]

idk i dont get enjoyment from this ep 17-18 were great but this sucks

[weak tulip]

yeah certain stages are more of a drag than others

part of the game

[mild furnace]

cuz its literally get on watch an add get double hop off

i dont even play

[weak tulip]

then just let it sit for 3 days and enjoy your passive income

[mild furnace]

idk so far this is the second time ive had to grind like this

[mild furnace]

3 days would make me like maybe 100 qvg

[weak tulip]

24 is also pretty annoying because you gotta upgrade some ridiculously expensive stuff for no production gain. you best to keep that for last and just wait to get your top gens to a reasonable output

[mild furnace]

only 4900 more to go

[strange wing]

Damn

[gray yew]

Oh. I see. Nevermind then.

[mild furnace]

i am stuck and idk what to do

if i sit and wait

itll be done maybe idk

in 3 years

[gray yew]

By the way, Jed, sorry if I seemed like I was mad at you earlier for doing so well in Beyond. I just have jealousy issues.

[weak tulip]

i wasn't offended but i have to say, that's a very silly thing to be envious about.

[gray yew]

Like I said, jealousy issues.

[weak tulip]

imma be a stickler here, but you mean envy, not jelousy

jelousy is about something you have you are afraid to lose

[mild furnace]

im gonan rip someones fucking head off IVE BEEN OPENING FREE WHITE DWARFS AND DOING ALL 3 STAR MISSIONS

FOR A FUCKING WEEK

AND I HAVENT GOTTEN THE KAST ONE

i hate not being sble to cheat

in games

[weak tulip]

never touched ursa major

main sequence not worth the boost imo

[mild furnace]

isnt main sequence every generator

[gray yew]

Okay, thx. Envy issues then.

[strange wing]

Are u mad rn lol

[gray yew]

(And prolly other issues, but that's a story for another time.)

also wifi just cut out for a moment
damn

[mild furnace]

i will go to bed very pissed off if u tell me ursa major is useless

[weak tulip]

How can you feel envy over progress in an idle game lol

[mild furnace]

and doesnt boost

snything useful

[weak tulip]

save your envy for more important things 😉

[gray yew]

Story for another time. We're getting turned away from cells here. I'm just gonna go to bed.

[weak tulip]

rest well

[proud berry]

The only generators that have the Main Sequence trait are Barnard's Star, Tau Ceti, and Sirius.

[sinful delta]

Ursa Major is useless and does not boost anything useful.

[mild furnace]

wow

[sinful delta]

Sorry to break it to you..

[mild furnace]

i hate this fucking game

[weak tulip]

nothing is useless in the game. the order depends on how you progress, there is some variation

[mild furnace]

what the fuck else could main sequence mean besides main progression generators

AND WHH IS IT ON RANDOM STARS

[strange wing]

Damn. Zeb is mad because the game is slow lol

[fluid delta]

then stop playing

[mild furnace]

no

[sinful delta]

ok

then do something?

Or do you like people being mad

[fluid delta]

if a game makes you angry, it's not the game for you

[mild furnace]

the game makes me angry cuz its excessively slow like i understand slow but even if i afkd for months i wouldnt be able to finish ep 19

[sinful delta]

probably get some stars

[weak tulip]

main sequence is a stage of life in stars

[sinful delta]

and a black hole

[fluid delta]

then you are either missing something or... well, you're probably missing something. having badges obviously helps

[mild furnace]

i refuse to spend money

[weak tulip]

there are only 3 of those tho, and you get past them rather quickly

[fluid delta]

otherwise, it's an idle game, it's supposed to be slow

[sinful delta]

well then get some money to spend

[weak tulip]

if you have arcturus, you already passed them

[mild furnace]

41 badges

[sinful delta]

Aren’t there 67 now

You’re missing out on events

[mild furnace]

i do and its lvl 2 but its slow as fuck

[fluid delta]

that helps, beyond is 41% faster for you than if you had zero

and ofc 4x faster if you do ads, on top of that

[sinful delta]

Probably not in the mood to watch so many ads, though.

If you have patience then it’s a good idea

[mild furnace]

ive been watching like 6-7 ads every day to keep my boosts available im so sick of it

[sinful delta]

Say that again

[fluid delta]

you don't have to watch them, you just have to have them running while you do something else.. and even then, not that many. or ofc get a month's infinity pass

[mild furnace]

why do i need to watch ads ti be able to olay normally

[sinful delta]

oh right

that too

[mild furnace]

AND EVERY AD IS FUCKING 60-80 SECONDS LONG

UGH

[weak tulip]

beyond 24 pretty much done. will need like, hmm 12 more minutes

[strange wing]

Nope. I won't give advice or any tip or how to progress. I may ask them to stop playing

[sinful delta]

12x2=24

[sinful delta]

Already said they wouldn’t stop playing

They already got that advice

[fluid delta]

I see many that are only 5 seconds.. but still... the game needs money to support the devs and run it in general.. you pay with either: your time, or ads, or infinity pass. pick one.

[mild furnace]

ive consistently never gotten a single ad under 45 seconds

maybe its an ios thing

[fluid delta]

that's your bad luck then, but my statement holds

[weak tulip]

that's why i love the steam version. no ads. and paying $13 once to enjoy the game was def. worth it for me. I probably won't renew

[mild furnace]

idk it seems annoying to have to constantly watch ads or funnel money into the game to be able to play the game at a normal pace

just me tho

[fluid delta]

it's also annoying to have to go to work or whatever to earn money, but that's life

[mild furnace]

except this is a game

something u do in ur off time to relax

[weak tulip]

it seems you are not very relaxed tho, lol

[mild furnace]

no i am not

like this specific episode

[fluid delta]

and as a game, there's a cost associated with it. You can spend a small amount of money (infinity pass) to avoid the ads AND get the ad bonus.

[mild furnace]

why do i need to spend money ona. game for it to be playable

not playable

[weak tulip]

because making games costs money

[mild furnace]

but bearable

[fluid delta]

bc CL has to earn money somehow to keep the game running and being improved

[weak tulip]

believe it or not

especially because they are actively working on it

[mild furnace]

i get that but this is a constant p2w thing yk make it extremely enticing to buy the passes by making the game soul crushing without it

[fluid delta]

if you can't tolerate any of the choices, and if the game is too slow for you (or makes you mad) then this game is not for you.

[weak tulip]

it's not p2w as you cannot "win"

[mild furnace]

i mean u can theres literally an end

and p2w on events

[fluid delta]

there is no p2w

[mild furnace]

[weak tulip]

all it gives you is faster progression.

and you are not competing with anyone

[mild furnace]

that is the literal definition of p2w to have an advantage cuz u pay money

[mild furnace]

u compete with 1000 people every event

also just to let u guys know this isnt an arguement its a discussion so

im not tryna be aggressive

[weak tulip]

all the rewards give you is faster progression nothing else. but you can reach the same level by just keep on playing without spending money shrug

you also get free stuff all the time

[mild furnace]

not really

[fluid delta]

you totally do not need to watch a single ad to complete an event. there is no p2w. The benefits from top 10/25 are nice but are completely unnecessary

[mild furnace]

only the occasional darwinium

[weak tulip]

this guy doesn't really understand what p2w games are, zeb you should try playing world of tanks or war thinder

or hearthstone

[fluid delta]

yeah, this is not the game for you Zeb. If you think this is bad, maybe look at a gacha game where the monetization is WAY worse

[mild furnace]

no jed i think u misunderstood i didnt say cts is p2w i said its using those types of tactics

its playable but much worse without paying

[weak tulip]

it's not any worse, just slower shrug

[mild furnace]

those r gambling games designed to steal ur money

[sinful delta]

speaking of payment things in c2s

[mild furnace]

this is just making it very suggestive

[fluid delta]

anyway, it doesn't matter what you want the game to do Jeb, the programmers aren't gonna alter the game to please you. Accept it and the options, or don't. shrug

[sinful delta]

I remember seeing an image of a guy here who said that he was the richest cells player and he had what like 800k Darwinium

[weak tulip]

Jeb? are you mixing us together?

lol

[mild furnace]

idk why ur acting as if this is an argument lol

im not saying this cuz i want change

[sinful delta]

.

[mild furnace]

im tryna have discussion with people

have a *

[fluid delta]

bc you are kinda making one. You insist on the game changing.. well, idk why you are trying to make the case, we don't matter, CL matters.

[weak tulip]

well you certainly do have that?

[mild furnace]

when did i say the game needed to change

i was just pointing out its features

and imo its flaws

[fluid delta]

ok. noted. next topic please?

[weak tulip]

oh no my math was off, it wasn't 12 minutes. Hmm... more like 24

[mild furnace]

lol ur funny

[fluid delta]

anyway, i've laid out your options. you don't like them, Zeb. Ok. np...

[mild furnace]

i never asked for those options man😭

i pointed out my gripes and what i think the flaws r i never came here asking for u to tell me to quit

[fluid delta]

no, you just complained about how the game is. my bad for responding and trying to help I guess

[weak tulip]

well it's kinda unclear what you want, except to rant

[mild furnace]

well u kinda just answered ur own question

so clearly it is clear

lol

[weak tulip]

ah okay

[fluid delta]

it totally is my fault for engaging on a rant. i will try to do better next time

[mild furnace]

man

stop that

[weak tulip]

🤣

[mild furnace]

like actually no one is beating u

ur good

at the end of the day its a discussion

we have our own opinions

[strange wing]

🤦‍♂️

[mild furnace]

what u dont think so?

[strange wing]

Nothing

[mild furnace]

ok

anyways back onto the topic of cells

i love meso but after prestige 4 it gets pretty hard to make it to prestige 10 not difficulty but just doing the same thing over again

[weak tulip]

as for something different... am i the only one to think that mezo implementation is kinda chaotic? That's the main reason I dislike it. I would have preferred if they made a clear time order tree there where you go through the ages. But as it stands it's rather confusing.

[mild furnace]

prestige 1 was amazing finding out everything and stuff but been there done thag by prestige 4 the thing about meso is it gets stale

i understand not much u can add after but still

make it end at 5 or something

[terse sierra]

I see what you did there cells

[mild furnace]

ur just noticing lol?

its cool design

[strange wing]

Should've noticed earlier lol

[mild furnace]

honestly having a tree like prim wouldve made it hard since meso doesnt really have those small branch upgrades

[terse sierra]

I was just putting it out for people who didn't notice

[weak tulip]

they don't really have to branch off into each other.. but the structure as it is presented now just seems chaotic to me

[mild furnace]

the concept is very good imo of having a tree but it doesnt work with mesos leveling system unfortunately

[mild furnace]

ye its a little all over the place

[weak tulip]

i like how they did it in beyond

[mild furnace]

like why r some dinos just disconnected from the main blob till later when u get something that commects

[weak tulip]

how they move from alpha into an abstract space

[mild furnace]

the beyond tree is very long

like sideways long

not a bad thing

just saying

[strange wing]

The tree shape is a music note. Pretty cool design

[mild furnace]

i think its defo my fav garden

[weak tulip]

i like how it's organized and how they move from a strictly distance/space dimension thing into an abstract representation

yeah for sure, beyond is by far the best

[mild furnace]

i just wish we had some map easter eggs

[weak tulip]

i mean, i am also a space nerd so i am biased

[mild furnace]

like small ufos

or occasional supernova in the background

[mild furnace]

i think its a cool garden i love games or interactive spacey things

where i can just zoom in on the stars

or planets

or whatever

[weak tulip]

onto the next level.

[mild furnace]

universe sandbox would go hard asf in vr

[strange wing]

Good luck on the way to ep 28

[weak tulip]

i hope it will take long 🙂

uh, nice present in the universe upgrade 🙂

[strange wing]

Not anymore ig. I remember some episode after that has less than 20 requirement

[weak tulip]

and a x2 for my top gen, neat

[weak tulip]

some levels are more of a drag than others i noticed. so i'll see

[terse sierra]

Ahh yes one of the many objects that orbit are star

[mild furnace]

russels teapot is kinda funny

just some joke a guy made

there could be a teapot orbiting the sun but u cant prove it doesnt exist

[strange wing]

Who put the teapot there lol

[terse sierra]

Russell did

[mild furnace]

how do u know theres even a teapot at all😛

[terse sierra]

It exists in 2 States at once

[mild furnace]

honestly russels teapot and shrodingers cat stuff r peak rage bait

cuz no matter what ur always wrong but ur always right but ur never either of them

[terse sierra]

Yes lol

[weak tulip]

what we do know is that there's a car orbiting the sun

[terse sierra]

Just like is the glass is half empty or half full

[mild furnace]

there was that one test as well where when a light particle is observed it follows a single path but when it isnt it splits

and we literally cannot explain y

[strange wing]

Both

[mild furnace]

thats just nature ragebait

like wdym u dont wanna do it when were looking

just do it

[mild furnace]

unfortunately its a tesla😭 more space junk

coulda sent up like a monster truck

or some funky cool car

tesla is basic

[terse sierra]

Cells Should add explore paradoxes as one of the explorations that would be cool

[weak tulip]

A Ford model T

[mild furnace]

was it?

didnt elon send up a tesla

a red one

[weak tulip]

lol i was referring to a Voayager episode

[mild furnace]

oh

also

[mild furnace]

paradoxes r fun but theres no way to escalate them i feel

or make progression out of it

unless u make the paradoxes more obscure

what would the ultimate paradox be at the end of the day the concept of contradiction or schrodingers cat cuz its the most famous paradox out there

[terse sierra]

Start with the most well known are simple paradox then later on you go with the lesser unknown and complex paradoxes

[mild furnace]

realistically tho what is by defintiion a complex paradox

every paradox is mesnt to be hard to understand kinda

ykwim

[terse sierra]

The most complex out of paradoxes, which isn't much

[strange wing]

I will make it lol

[mild furnace]

go for it

id love to see what u got cooking up

[terse sierra]

Maybe one of the sub upgrades could be "what is a paradox"

[weak tulip]

In a town, the barber shaves everyone who does not shave themselves. Does the barber shave himself?

[terse sierra]

That's a good one

There's also the ship one which I forgot the name of

[mild furnace]

thesius

[weak tulip]

Gödel explained it in mathematical terms

[mild furnace]

its the same ship but isnt

[weak tulip]

Ship of Theseus

yeah but that is more like.. a definition thing

[terse sierra]

It holds the image But not the originality

[weak tulip]

you can say yes or no and are right, depending on the interpretation

[mild furnace]

ye it just holds onto the soul of the original boat imo

[terse sierra]

Yea lol

[weak tulip]

the barber one is tied to logic in essentially shows the shocking discovery of Gödel

[mild furnace]

my interpretation is that its still the same ship cuz its like renovating a house doesnt make it a new house if u do it slowly its just renewing it obv none of the original ship is there but its still the same ship

[weak tulip]

as i said, you can hold either view.. it's just a matter of perspective/definition

[mild furnace]

idk if im stupid but i dont really get the barber one cuz like it lacks the context of if he has hygiene 😭

ik its so stupid

but thats how i see it

[weak tulip]

take the statement as written

no hygine concerns

[mild furnace]

i mean if he shaves everyone who is unshaved hed also be in the unshaved category till hes shaved

[weak tulip]

does the barber shave himself if he shaves everyone in town who doesn't shave himself?

[mild furnace]

oh wakt

omg

[weak tulip]

exactly, there is no answer to it, both yes and no are obviously false

[mild furnace]

ughh paradoxes hurt my brain

things that dont have a definitive answer feel like rot in my brain

😭

i searched up popular paradoxes and alot of them have something to do with time travel

[weak tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeQX2HjkcNo

[mild furnace]

i feel like time travel paradoxes r interesting but over used

[weak tulip]

watch this, it explains why it is so

[mild furnace]

theyre too easy to make

[weak tulip]

really good video

[mild furnace]

ill watch it tomorrow morning rn i dont even have the brain capacity to form more than 2. thoughts at once

lol

[terse sierra]

If a cell can singularly but a singularly can't cell then who is the cell?

[mild furnace]

both r simultaneously a cell

no but srsly tech singularity is a crazy concept

blame does an amazing job at explaining it

[terse sierra]

Yea

[weak tulip]

it's a fantasy imo

[mild furnace]

just useless expansion

ye it is

[weak tulip]

remember roko's basilisk?

what silly shit lol

[mild furnace]

its weird its like this one thing i heard once

actually nvm i cant even remember it properly

thats a sign for bedtime

goodnight guys

[weak tulip]

rest well

[mild furnace]

ty

u too whenever u sleep

[terse sierra]

Who's to say that we are not the cell

[weak tulip]

alright beyond 25 is some srs business

[desert pebble]

im only on 5 😭

[strange wing]

Keep going

[desert pebble]

im trying, everythings so pricy

[strange wing]

It's a part of the game lol.

[weak tulip]

gotten into a rabbit hole with chatgpt

[fluid delta]

ofc chatGPT often hallucinates so..

[weak tulip]

heh, it got much worse from there

that wasn't hallucinated though, it's real

chatgpt is a chinese room

pretty good one one actually

[fluid delta]

maybe or maybe not, idk enough cosmology and higher math to know if it’s inventing/hallucinating or not, in that bit you posted here

[weak tulip]

CCC is a thing, you can look it up on wikipedia

[fluid delta]

the basic concept, sure. the rest of it? if i spent the time i could maybe vet it, but i am certainly not going to trust ML beyond where it has real uses

[weak tulip]

oh i totally agree

but it lists sources now

and you can always ask it to double check, you always should if in doubt

[fluid delta]

it can hallucinate that too

remember that tools like chatGPT don’t actually think, it’s using statistics and pattern-matching

[weak tulip]

hahaha

"carefully" lol

[weak tulip]

yes, it's a chinese room

but it's pretty good and kinda fascinating to explore

kinda like an idle game lol

[amber canyon]

I think the same. Occasionally I like talking to it as if it's a real person and having longer conversations. Last one I think I was asking it what it thought money was and what money would be for it.

It def has limitations in any extended conversation - especially when asking it to draw conclusions. It feels like it's one of those people who try to pretend they understand (but don't) and grab random bits of what you've said to plug into what it's saying. Not making sense. A bit like a Chinese Room. Or management.

Also discussed with it e.g. what a conscious AI would be like, and how it would differ from an embodied consciousness etc. And platypuses.

In other news, I think that after a year of doing most events, I'm now up to having entered exactly 40% of the events that have been run. Yay me!

And I missed the last badge for that last event (irl work happened). Which is irritating. Now I don't have an even spread of bee badges (sigh), and also that was gonna be my first badge boost over 200%. Good job none of this is important 😁.

[wraith terrace]

Far too many humans have limitations when asked to draw conclusions. The main difference between them and AI seems to be what kind of nonsense you expect to hear.

And if you ask me, an embodied platypus would not differ from an concious conciousness.

[noble dune]

i prestiged 1st time in mezo!

[noble dune]

i think it all depends on hunger, desperation to learn, and survival instincts more than anything to have a conscience

[pure dawn]

I just got an idea

what about another permanent simulation (not an event) for plants, it could be called green house or smthing and different plants could be everywhere from on a greenhouse to a tropical island, we could even have flies for the Venus flytrap (plant that eats flies) kinda like beyond, primary, and meziozoic

[tall mirage]

How much does one earn per sec in beyond here?

Is it past E153?

[amber canyon]

I get (with the 4x boost) 3.67e156. Am end game (been sat with E28 finished for months).

[tall mirage]

Crazy, I'm only getting 2.74 e147 now lmaoo

But I technically only completed it y'day

[amber canyon]

That's exponential stuff for ya 🙂

[tall mirage]

Yea 3 whole letters away

messier and quasar are at what levels?

[amber canyon]

Yeah, so I have 300 of my max generator (||Messier 87, level8||) and 245 of my second (||Quasar 37, level 7||). Both have level 9 on both trait cards and my series 2 golds are at level 5.

[tall mirage]

Yea e156 makes sense now

You'd basically max out 29 as soon as it's released

30 I'm not sure

[amber canyon]

It'll likely just be the long research missions that will take ages. Finishing the rest, depends on howuch the step is at E29/E30. Hopefully I'll enjoy them, regardless 🙂.

[fluid delta]

I’m at 1.06E153 at beyond 28

generators at 7

[carmine escarp]

Hey y'all is there a way to connect my CTS steam account with mobile?

[vital tinsel]

You can use the save manager to import your game data on mobile

[carmine escarp]

but do they sync with one another?

[vital tinsel]

No :/

If you plan on using both platforms, you will have to manually import your save every time

[noble dune]

any mathematician here? who could tell me, that if im getting a 2x boost, it technically means im halving my completion time at any given point of time? or what ratio does it go through?

cuz infinity series, 50% reduction to 50% remaining is 75% , then 87.5, then so on, and whatever we are playing is that last few percents of the game?

[fluid delta]

no need for a mathematician or even a statistician. Yes, a 2x boost means halving completion time. 3x means 1/3 time, 4x means 1/4 time, etc. However, the built-in assumption is that nothing else changes. The content in the game is structured so that generators provide increasingly higher amounts (and thus cost higher amounts).. all that to say that the boosts very much help, but that ascertaining how much time they'll save is mostly up to how frequently you play

[dreamy echo]

well, strategies can change based on how fast you're going, so it wouldn't be exactly 1/2 time

also less frames to click in

[pure dawn]

Is using an autoclicker considered cheating??

[gray yew]

No
The devs say it’s okay

[pure dawn]

Oh ok, but I'm pretty sure there's a limit to how much you can cluck a second, cause my autoclicker pauses every 1 second and then continues

Click*

[amber canyon]

Think that might been a setting in the auto-clicker. People have said they can set them at 20+ times per sec from what I recall.

[weak tulip]

not on steam

limit for me is about 6ms per click

[pure dawn]

But I get to click like a 100 times a second before it pauses, and it only pauses for 0.3 sec

[slate bluff]

Gang this is crazy

[pure dawn]

What The....

[strange lark]

please post alpha content only in #public-alpha-feedback

[pure dawn]

What is that tho

[slate bluff]

If u leave and rejoin primary from exploration hub u get 100x entropy

[pure dawn]

And what does the othe guy mean by alpha content

Ima try that out

[slate bluff]

i have 286 Odc

[pure dawn]

Entropy?!?!

I'm stuck on dc 🙁

[slate bluff]

Welp

[strange lark]

hey again, this is alpha content and should be deleted here and posted in the alpha channel because this is not the place for it

[slate bluff]

The alpha is free

[pure dawn]

What's alpha content

?

[strange lark]

yeah but it still should be in one channel to not confuse and spoil people who dont want it

[pure dawn]

@strange lark what's alpha content

Wdym by alpha

[strange lark]

dont worry about it

[pure dawn]

Just tell me

@strange lark ....

[dreamy echo]

what did we say about excessive pinging

also alpha means an early phase of development in game development

[clever vault]

Think he implies (since your reality engine is different) use the #💬-beta-chat channel?

[dreamy echo]

no, alpha

not beta

[clever vault]

unsure if in this case there is an alpha channel and what the difference is in the current stage, (myself not playing either and unfamiliar how this game uses either definition)

[gray yew]

Alpha development comes after beta development, I believe.

Beta is at the bottom of the first screenshot, Alpha is at the top of the second screenshot. Hopefully, this should make it easier to find them.

[slate bluff]

Am I cooked? 9 x 10¹⁰⁰ btw

Its alpha test btw

[gray yew]

Please put that in #public-alpha-feedback or the other channels, please.

[slate bluff]

Alr

[mild furnace]

how the fuck do u achieve a googol in prim

especially when making hdc

[slate bluff]

Its a alpha test

U get 100x entropy every time u leave prim

[mild furnace]

interesting

[slate bluff]

Stuff costs I have like 10²⁰⁰ bye this point

Its stupid

[modern raptor]

The beta is here guys

[tall urchin]

what do you think is the best order to purchase constellations?

[lament temple]

What constellations are best?

• Best constellations for:
• Phase 1 are: Scorpio♏, Gemini♊, Aquarius♒, Aries♈(only if you have extras before phase 2)
• Phase 2 are: Eridanus, Canis Major, Perseus, Hercules, Ophiuchus⛎
• If you have all of these, assemble Argo Navis for something special😉

Tips and Tricks • Requested by K.kasztan (not kazakhstan)

[strange lark]

here ↑↑

[amber canyon]

I'm ... Not sure that's right ... I don't think there is a right order though. You just have to look at your best generators and buy the constellation that matches them though.

[elder elbow]

Me when the the when

[fluid delta]

I concur

And buy only if you really need to

[carmine escarp]

Am I doing something wrong because beyond on ep 19 and now on ep 20 is insanely slow

Like it takes 2-3 weeks to progress 1 episode

and i've been afk in the game for the past like 8 hours but still haven't gotten to first objective

not even close

[pure dawn]

@eruzo_17 can you tell me how, I tried it and it didn't work

[woven agate]

Me personally, I try to farm the pink bits, and buy the stars that cost 20 bits, but only after I've unlocked something new

Doing that, it should be pretty fast

Also farm constellation frags

Can be done by ranking up celestial bodies to max, you'll get rewards for ranking them up

[pure dawn]

@carmine escarp it just gets insanely hard, but the result is worth it. But you should listen to the person above, im on episode 7 cause I forgot about beyond 😑

[fluid delta]

This is where playing on mobile and making use of the 4x boost really helps (or infinity pass).. also, every badge from events you get increases speed of non-events by 1%, which can really add up over time.

[carmine escarp]

yeah but If I play on mobile it doesn't sync with my pc

[pure dawn]

Hello

[noble dune]

i thought lvl 50 was the highest people were at?

[fluid delta]

it will if you use the save manager build into the game. You'll have to manually sync though

[noble dune]

also, what all can we upload on the prestige site ?

[fluid delta]

nope! I'm at 53.

[carmine escarp]

figured it out, it's actually not that big of a hassle so that'll work, thx for the advice.

[fluid delta]

yw!

[noble dune]

so whats with the latest image on prestige?

is it an alpha thing?

[fluid delta]

idk but that image you posted doesn't look real.

[noble dune]

yeah 53! i thought the first convo i had w you was regarding that most people were at 53 max.

[noble dune]

its from the prestige channel, maybe the devs gonna look at ut.

[fluid delta]

yeah maybe.. I would say that the 119 could maybe be the number of times they restarted primary, but even then... nah, looks fake to me. And the simulation xp being what it is? Again, totally fake.

I mean "8.49e642"... c'mon. No. Mine is at 3,398,794

[noble dune]

🤣

[fluid delta]

.. and you notice no account name on there too. lol

[noble dune]

like i said, its tick marked in the prestige channel

must be the new game update thing

im aware you have kept your self away from testings..

[fluid delta]

Yeah, idk. With the beta/alpha of the revamp, maybe.. I haven't messed with that, so who knows..

[noble dune]

tell me sepheria

[noble dune]

if so. we are at the last few % of the game right?

if suppose in a game i give you a 2x time boost. yes technically you half the time. but since you got that early in the game, that left over 50% is your 100% or 90 or whatever you experience

[night kindle]

Hey, if someone know, what beta on steam? I have two of them

[fluid delta]

I'm not sure what you're asking, but overall, if you have a 4x boost compared to someone that has no boost, and you play the exact same way as each other, then you will finish the event 4x faster

[noble dune]

so technically, its all a gimmick

[fluid delta]

no, not a gimmick. the boost really is faster. if you have a 4x boost and check your stuff 4x as often, you really will complete it in 25% of the time.

However, if you just check every (for instance) half hour, and your friend with no boost does the same, then you will both finish much closer in time.

and ofc for events, the event boost from badges for that event will help a lot too

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[night kindle]

Wow

👍

[unkempt wharf]

Hello! I am new to this game. So far Im loving this game 🙂

Just wondering what i should spend my darwinium on

[fluid delta]

only what you really need to! And I am glad you are enjoying it!

[unkempt wharf]

Yes I am really enjoying it. And wdym on what I really need to. Also what should I spend my logits later? I only have a few now

[mild furnace]

save it

id say save it and ull know when u need it cuz when u need it u reslly need it

[fluid delta]

Save it, yeah. What Zeb is saying here

[mild furnace]

logits tho id recommend just buying capybara then squid and the volcano then whatever else u want

also ho sepher

hi

[fluid delta]

Just do what seems obvious. Play on mobile (ideally a tablet like the ipad), not PC.

[unkempt wharf]

capybara? Squid? volcano?

[fluid delta]

dont' worry about that for now

[unkempt wharf]

Oh... I play on pc

[mild furnace]

yep theyre boosters for primary simulation and meso u can buy them with logits theyre massive boosters

but id say get them in that order

cuz without capy, squid is insanely hard to get

volcano is just nice to have cuz its a 2x all in meso

[unkempt wharf]

uhh ok let me see

I see capybara

yea I see

[pure dawn]

Give you're ideas by replying to this.

[gray yew]

If you need more advice, we have an FAQ.

[unkempt wharf]

ok ty

[gray yew]

I may also be able to give you some advice for events, if you wanna hear it.

[fluid delta]

No, I'm not going to vote in a user poll. CL has a roadmap, they're doing great so far, they know what they're doing, they have analytics and such that we can't see, and so I'm happy to wait for what comes, when it comes.

[gray yew]

good point

[weak tulip]

I just hope beyond gets expanded

[gray yew]

I don’t think it will. Apparently, after Episodes 29 and 30, that’ll be it.

[weak tulip]

there's much more stuff in the universe we know about

[gray yew]

True true, but you can’t fit it all into one simulation.

Plus, each episode gets closer and closer to the edge of the universe. Then what?

[weak tulip]

could restructure the last levels a bit

or add extra episodes in between stuff

lots of ways

[gray yew]

Maybe. There’ll prolly be quite a few more things in the last two episodes, but after that, that pretty much reaches the edge of the universe.

[strange wing]

episode 30 is about exploring the "observable universe". Idk what come after that

[gray yew]

1: Spoilers
2: Either the multiverse, or…I dunno.

[weak tulip]

yeah i'm not saying they should change the scope. just pack more episodes in it

[gray yew]

I think 30 is a good number to end on. It’s a multiple of 10, not too high…etc etc.

[weak tulip]

ideally it would go on forever lol

[gray yew]

You can’t make a game, let alone simulation, that goes on forever.

[strange wing]

30 is cool number

[gray yew]

Okay, you kinda can, but that’s like those with no ending or smthn.

[strange wing]

We don't know what beyond that. So it stopped at 30 for now

[weak tulip]

well i wasn't serious. but i wouldn't mind if it goes to 50 or 100... just more episodes before you reach the end

[gray yew]

That’s still a high number though. Plus the beyond goes on for a while anyway.
Maybe something in future, but for now, not likely.

[weak tulip]

yeah as i said, i hope for the future. it seems beyond is very much beloved by most of the players

[gray yew]

That’s true.

[fluid delta]

Yeah, idk about "beloved". Cells is not the original Mass Effect Trilogy, not even close.

[weak tulip]

you don't say

[fluid delta]

(nor is it pretending to be. It's a lightweight idle game!)

[weak tulip]

i said beloved by the players who play cells

not by the general gaming population

[gray yew]

It’s an aight enough game

[strange wing]

I think it's idle clicker game lol

[weak tulip]

it sure is

and imo the best of them all

[fluid delta]

I know you said that. I play Cells. It's certainly not beloved by me. Let me restate: Cells is an idle game. That's it.

A good one, but that's all it is

[fluid delta]

or tapper game 🙂

[weak tulip]

between the three main sims, what's your favorite?

[gray yew]

Beyond.

[strange wing]

Both idle and clicker lol

[fluid delta]

Depends on if mobile or not 🙂

[weak tulip]

oh i thought you only play mobile

[fluid delta]

oh, no. I game almost entirely on PC. Cells is the rare exception

[gray yew]

Wait, I thought you were mobile.

Ah wait misread
My bad

[fluid delta]

I play cells on iPad. I play nearly everything else on PC

[strange wing]

Primary

[weak tulip]

also i am not sure what you're saying, on steam you have a a different favorite sim in cells than on mobile?

[weak tulip]

really, i find that rather bland after a while.

[sinful delta]

Damn is 😂 🎉

[weak tulip]

but i suppose it will get expanded?

[fluid delta]

On Steam and other platforms, I play games that aren't idle games.

Idle games are well suited to mobile. PC games can be way more involved.. or interesting.. even cinematic

[weak tulip]

yeah, i understand that but i only asked you what of the three sims in cells is your favorite

but nvm, it doesn't matter

[unkempt wharf]

I think I found what I need. Is lascaux cave important? I think it is very muh important

Btw, should I create red dwarves with ads?

[strange wing]

Yes

[unkempt wharf]

for which?

[strange wing]

You get card and can level it up

[unkempt wharf]

can level what what up?

[clever vault]

red dwarves gives cards, although if watching adds is worth it, can be different for people

[unkempt wharf]

Well Its obiously not worth it to spend dwarinium's on it

so should I create them?

[clever vault]

better watch adds to get the boosts timer maxed, is more worth it, if you still want watch adds for other stuff (although doubling income if offline over an hour)

you can also get planets through research

[unkempt wharf]

Um I don't understand. What should I watch ads on?

[clever vault]

eraly game, might have some worth to watch a few adds for (red ) planets, still hard to say how much any person should do this, since enough people are fine without watching any adds at all

oh sorry you can give boost's as well

(Lower left corner) Max space time x2 (and x4 if boosted far enough (may need some other conditions))

each mode primary/event etc has it's own boost timer, which doubles the income of these modes

[unkempt wharf]

Are you talking about the beyond simulation?

[clever vault]

all4 modes, primary/event/beyond/mesozoic

[unkempt wharf]

oops I used the free boost

in the beggining I think u get a free boost

[clever vault]

yeah you also get 1 free boost the first time

[unkempt wharf]

So should I create dwarf planet with ad?

Im willing to watch add

only like 15sec

[clever vault]

keep adding time through boosts

there is a bar to fill

[unkempt wharf]

ok

[clever vault]

so you add more boosted time

[unkempt wharf]

and about dwarf planet?

[clever vault]

watch it once or twice, imho not very worth it, due to odds of getting a good card is too low

imho maxing all boosts in all modes you play is best, unsure what the treshold is for the X4 boost, but it makes the game much less tedious.
ps if you unlocked research as well in beyond, max that time boost as well
pps some people still think watching adds for boost aint worth it, however can't speak for you

[weak tulip]

it won't last but nice to have

[unkempt wharf]

is research like astronomy?

[clever vault]

research is an tab within beyond (where you can select all planets, there is an telescope icon), therein you have reasearch boost (make sure you keep research something

in top 10 already?, yeah wont last, but if you keep playing actively you should've got a good chance to stay in top 10

[weak tulip]

well. imma go to sleep soon, will see where i am tomorrow

i took advice here and waited a day before i started the event

[unkempt wharf]

hmm. Idk what u mean

[clever vault]

on phone there should be some icon that looks like an telescope on bottom of screen in beyond-mode (perhaps you sill need to unlock it, my memory is fussy since you should have it fast if not from start)

(like few lines/planet/cards/telescope/lightning bolt/badge

about to log though, unsure how to discribe in an other way (chatting from pc, so making a screen-shot, while the screens are different is harder)

[devout echo]

hola

[dreamy echo]

hello

[upper oracle]

Amoti👋🏻

[amber canyon]

Hi!

[tawdry harness]

hi

[amber canyon]

How's things? I'm just doing my morning cells 'admin' (getting boosts back to full etc), you?

[gray yew]

Just woke up like 30 seconds ago

[unkempt wharf]

Hello again. I am wondering if spending darwinium are good on the bonuses that cost 70 of them. There are so many and I am only on the 60's

[elder elbow]

same

[lofty galleon]

I am not dead

[unkempt wharf]

should I get singularity once I can get it? Cause I can get it rn

[pure dawn]

I'm top 16 in the new event!

@unkempt wharf ye you should (meant to reply)

[unkempt wharf]

really? it will reset and I already have rover too

[pure dawn]

Yes

Cause u will unlock another universe idk what it's called but you can get upgrades in that universe

Like flying robots that click and buy for you

[unkempt wharf]

Oh wow! love this game

[clever vault]

oh yeah, do the first "reset" asap when possible, you get back there fast, and you can progress a bit further

[unkempt wharf]

Which simulations will reset?

[clever vault]

only primary

[pure dawn]

And faster simulation speed

[clever vault]

however you get 3 small branches to progress further in primary

[pure dawn]

Ye

[unkempt wharf]

will darwinium go back to 0?

[clever vault]

no

[pure dawn]

No

[unkempt wharf]

ok good

btw what should I spend my darwinium on?

[pure dawn]

Maybe upgrades like the trajan horse

Trojan

Or buy timelapeses

[clever vault]

bought such an upgrade myself and regretted it

[pure dawn]

Oh

[unkempt wharf]

it says fatal error simulation has crashed

[pure dawn]

Well I bought the trajan horse and it's decent

[clever vault]

I sprinkle the 1 darwinium comets so now or than

[pure dawn]

Also cool to flex

[clever vault]

that error is a joke

[pure dawn]

Yeah

[unkempt wharf]

ok

[pure dawn]

It didn't actually crash its part of the story line

[clever vault]

or rather part of the game

[pure dawn]

Yeah

[unkempt wharf]

Hmm so should I spend darwinium on permenent items?

[pure dawn]

Honestly instead of using darwinium I just use adds, and use darwinuim for things like timlapses or simulation upgrades

Perm items

Yeah

[clever vault]

you soon see how the reset actually boost primary so much better than darw-upgrades do, the answer is atm no you don't (there is an game-update in the make that might change this), best is to safe it for now

[unkempt wharf]

ok

[pure dawn]

Yeah

[unkempt wharf]

wait what do I spend my metabit's on/

[pure dawn]

3 Votes on ads is crazy

Since people usually complain about ads

[unkempt wharf]

also what is research?

[clever vault]

metabit is to buy all the cheap stuff actually, and keep doing so (try to read to adjust a little to what your playstyle wants more)

[pure dawn]

Research?

Wdym

Ohhhh

That

[clever vault]

the point of darwinium is it can be rare, so spending it means buyuing it with $

[unkempt wharf]

lol

[pure dawn]

You can research upgrades using metabits

I think

Not sure if research means smthing else

[unkempt wharf]

oh ok

[pure dawn]

Ohh

[clever vault]

however this is pc

[pure dawn]

U mean astronomy missions?

[unkempt wharf]

research is what he said

[clever vault]

pc as in not mobile

[unkempt wharf]

btw what is simulation speed?

[pure dawn]

Speed of simulation

Common sense

[unkempt wharf]

I have no idea what simulation to start

[clever vault]

if any animal gives 50/s it boost that amount

just spent all your stuff, and restart the sim.

[pure dawn]

Yeah

[unkempt wharf]

How do I spend megabits?

[clever vault]

click/tap

[pure dawn]

On upgrades

[clever vault]

like how you bought things before

[unkempt wharf]

oh ok

I think hyper tap sucks

isn't hologram computing btter?

[clever vault]

its kinda like a 60sec minigame, except you managed to dragged it longer 😛

[unkempt wharf]

wdym

[clever vault]

I mean you buy like 5 upgrades, and start the new sim, till it rins slow, so you restart+buy new upgrades again, rince repeat

[unkempt wharf]

and is hologram computing and hyper tap the only two choices?

[clever vault]

the buying of 5 upgreades shouldn't take longer than 1 min.

for now

[unkempt wharf]

5?

[clever vault]

buy 1 you get more options

[unkempt wharf]

oh

why is hyper tap so good anyways?

[clever vault]

5 is a random number atm, but kinda depends on how many bits you have/got

[unkempt wharf]

I have 11 bits

[clever vault]

tap is better for pc, but even on mobile you have momenets you tap, so you get more per tap, andneed to tap less.

[unkempt wharf]

Later taps become better, therefore +5 taps is so little

Ohhhhhh wait

don't tell me every time u tap u gain 5?

not 5 in the beginning?

[clever vault]

it's per tap

[unkempt wharf]

so first, its 1, then 6, then 11?

and so on?

[clever vault]

you can only get 1 upgrade, the next branch can give other upgrades

[unkempt wharf]

no I mean per tap

Like with just one upgrade

if not, its useless

and hologram computing is much better

[clever vault]

or rather each upgrade is kinda unique (beside 1) and only has a 1 buy limit (again except 1 you get later)

[unkempt wharf]

Ok so I should buy both

[clever vault]

it adds up with the ingame bonusses for primary

so yeah it does all add up if you can more +tap bonus elsewhere

[unkempt wharf]

So shoul I get bothe hologram and hyper tap?

[clever vault]

yeah buy the cheap 1/2 metabit stuff

I would

[unkempt wharf]

1/2???

[clever vault]

1 or 2

[unkempt wharf]

I can also get nanobot?

Should I ?

[clever vault]

yes

[unkempt wharf]

I already have hologram and hyper tap

[clever vault]

its a short time autoclicker

[unkempt wharf]

ok

and after I buy. I can start sim/

[clever vault]

if you can buy it on top of the other 2, yes, buy it

and start new

[unkempt wharf]

ok

Btw I still don't understand the other contents of the megabits. Try to explain as easily as you can.

[fluid cedar]

did anyone test with alpha reboot, whether is it better to do a primary simulation reset prior to update or after the update? which one gives more benefits?

[clever vault]

megabits basicly gives different upgrades to the primary sim, so you get more resources, which in turn gives more metabits, which is basicly a loop to keep strenghten each other.

you only need to reset it after a (few) day(s) to gain these boosts (depending on your patience and how much the boost gives)

early on you should be able to reset it even earlier

unsure what parts of metabits is still unclear to you, better sdescribe what is still unclear.

[fluid cedar]

after few months of not resetting, I am wondering if doing reset before or after the changes will give me more metabits (or whatever "bonus" it gives in the end)

[fluid delta]

hmm, idk, but I would imagine they'd try to keep it roughly equivalent in terms of progress at least.. but if you need to reset now (bc you have bought some upgrades on the RE and so your new multiplier is much higher), then you should do it now

[unkempt wharf]

ok

wsp sepheria

This game is so good

[fluid delta]

eh, it's ok, it's certainly fun for an idle game, but there's other games (on PC) that are way more fun.

[unkempt wharf]

Tell me tell me.

If there are better games than this

[fluid delta]

What kinda games do you like?

and do you have a pc?

[unkempt wharf]

yes

[unkempt wharf]

Hmm mabye td games. I play the tower idle tower defense which I think is better than this

[unkempt wharf]

I also play idle slayer which I like because u can idle and it has a skill tree

[fluid delta]

those are all mobile games. have you played PC games or console games?

[unkempt wharf]

...I can play all of them on pc

[unreal quarry]

I just sacrificed 900 cubes for diamond geodes. It hurt the whole way through, but I guess there wasn't really a better way to use them

[fluid delta]

well... I mean, that's one way to spend them, sure

[fluid delta]

ok, but they are totally mobile games. Have you played other games on PC or on console?

[unkempt wharf]

Well I am actually on chrome os

Btw whats the max idle time for each sim?

[fluid delta]

oh ok, so you don't have a PC or a console. Then.. nvm, you can't play PC games.. just know there's a whole WORLD of games out there that are there for you to experience, when you get older and can afford one. You'll see 🙂

max idle time? there isn't one, in Cells

[unkempt wharf]

ok gg

[unkempt wharf]

but I still can play some game on google play

Is it good to spend metabits on these?

I can't afford it rn but next time?

[fluid delta]

Those are still mobile games, Android games, to be precise. Now, some Chromebooks have Intel CPUs and are weak laptops, and there's possibilities there, you'd need to tell me your exact model of Chromebook for me to know

[fluid delta]

Yes. Most of the "hidden" items need logits or darwinium to get though

[unkempt wharf]

yea

logits I don't have much but should I spend 70 darwiniums on the perm items?

[fluid delta]

Don't buy them until you need to. Keep getting the daily item, every 2 weeks you get 25 darwinium, and you'll get a bit from other sources, and doing events is the main source of logits.

[unkempt wharf]

ok

I do not spend money

[fluid delta]

And always do the ad boosts for stuff you care about, bc your progress will be much faster.

You don't spend money on stuff in games? Don't worry, you don't need to for this game.

[unkempt wharf]

ok I am so focused of the primary sim rn. Its hard to go to other sims

[fluid delta]

you will want to do all of them, bc progress in primary needs it

and with events, each one (there are 2/week) gives you 3 badges. Each badge speeds up non-events by 1%. Over time that adds up

Besides, it's an idle game, there's gonna be waiting involved so you will have time to do all the things, and you will still be waiting some bc, again, it's an idle game 🙂

[unkempt wharf]

Each event is 2 weeks?

[fluid delta]

No. There are 2 events per week, and they always start and end on the same schedule (monday and thursday)

[unkempt wharf]

ok

Btw how many people play this game actively?

yay got singularity

Also, is it ok to click achievments whenever I get them? Cause the give currencies depending on what u have

[fluid delta]

yes that's fine

[fluid delta]

Based on how divisions work in events, I would guess somewhere around 200000 people

[pure dawn]

Yes, those r really good

It's mainly for flexing tho

[unkempt wharf]

When should I reboot/ I can get about 100 megabits rn

[fluid delta]

when the multiplier would significantly go up. What is it showing when you click on "reboot simulation"?

[unkempt wharf]

So should I click it? Would It reset imediatly?

[fluid delta]

it'll give you a chance to back out

[unkempt wharf]

wdym

[fluid delta]

you'll see when you click on it

[unkempt wharf]

ok

here

[fluid delta]

Ah. No, that's very small, I wouldn't bother yet

[unkempt wharf]

ok

[fluid delta]

Do Meso (idr if it lets you do that right away). Do Beyond. Do explore/events. All that will help.

[unkempt wharf]

Im just kinda stuck so

[fluid delta]

Pretty much do all the things

[unkempt wharf]

I think its because im stuck with this stupid 15 hour research

3 hours left

[fluid delta]

Nah you aren't. For some of it you need to wait. I assume you have access to the ad boost, so that'll speed things up 2x (or 4x if you watch at least 5 ads)

(ad boost boundary from 2x to 4x is at 16 hour point, each ad adds 4 hrs)

how do you play? the website, or from google play?

[unkempt wharf]

google play

Do I just afk to get currency? or should i active

Right now I have cybog to 36

[fluid delta]

ok so i think that gives you access to ads, bc that's Android. Do you see it giving you the option to watch an ad for a boost when you come back to the game after at least 5 minutes?

[unkempt wharf]

Yes yes

[fluid delta]

ok good.. Is cyborgs the only thing you are waiting on, or are you waiting on a idea/human era thing?

oh! Something that's not obvious: if you have at least 100x in a generator (even early ones), you will have access to additional nodes. Do that rn

[unkempt wharf]

Oh yea check this out

[unkempt wharf]

100x? generator?

[fluid delta]

all of those round things that you add to.. those are generators bc they generate idea and ... whatever the mutagen things are called, the other currency

[stuck girder]

Can't connect to my Google account thru cell to singularity apk, it says no network

[gray yew]

Entropy
That’s what the other one’s called

Mutagen’s the dino currency

[fluid delta]

right. yes

so yeah, do 100x total of the ones you can do, and you'll see additional nodes (which ofc you get when you can bc they will raise what currency you can get)

[unkempt wharf]

Wwhat? what currency are you talking about

[fluid delta]

by currency i mean entropy and ideas

[gray yew]

The currencies in the main simulation.
The purple things are entropy, and the yellow lightbulbs are ideas.

[fluid delta]

anything in the game where the numbers go up.. that's "currency"

[unkempt wharf]

yes I know

So what am I supposed to do to get 100x?

[gray yew]

Whatever you’ve been doing so far, I guess.
Wait, buy generator boosters, and occasionally tap/click, and at some point or another, you’ll be able to afford 100 of any generator.

And yes, it will take some time.

[unkempt wharf]

Yea but the amino acids or dna's there very cheap and I can buy 100 of them easily but it doesn't do much

[fluid delta]

and start from the earliest bc those will be the cheapest.. so Amino Acid and Stone Age

if it's cheap, do it. why not?