#Fragment Farming (Extreme Edition)

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haughty wing
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The contract you lost here was Annihilist

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So adding that back shouldn't be too hard

onyx condor
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And that’s with sub‑optimal town perks, power stones, and other buffs

river yew
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you have any idea why i can't set blue ones ? even in ch hard / insane

haughty wing
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How much damage is it dealing?

river yew
haughty wing
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That should be enough for ChIns

river yew
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what can be done to improve

fathom ermine
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Is Glacier Spikes' cooldown below 20s?

river yew
haughty wing
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Ah, Beyond BPs always do something weird and very specific, I don't even remember what this one did

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Have you tried using the regular Extreme?

river yew
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i can't last a minute with regular extreme blue

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actually i always get killed before the second glacier spikes proc.
in insane

fathom ermine
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Then it seems like a cooldown issue.

river yew
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even with 19s cd

haughty wing
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How much damage do you deal with Extreme?

river yew
haughty wing
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Also, which Beyond are you using? The one here isn't official and has only 9 Contracts, it seems

haughty wing
haughty wing
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Ah, then I don't know what changes were made to it, exactly, but it has only 9 Contracts, so any idle it sets will be low

haughty wing
river yew
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i deleted them and reimported the BPs, now it's working in insane

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blue is ok for now

haughty wing
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Nice 😄

river yew
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yellow and purple seem to have a lot of tweak to do

haughty wing
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Depends on the circumstances

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I only post BPs that I was able to run myself, but in some cases it's "just barely," so options are needed to make them more widely usable 😄

river yew
haughty wing
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Have you switched back to Nature damage everywhere?

river yew
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yes

haughty wing
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That's surprising

polar cosmos
river yew
fathom ermine
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Someone needs to read the instructions, it looks like.

river yew
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yet i read it many times, call it leaking eyes or whatever

fathom ermine
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No, purple's instructions aren't pinned. Well, they were, but then they got expanded for others, so that no longer fits, and it was continued in the next message (which is why it says "Continued after the fish ⬇️"). You need to jump to the pinned instructions message (or just jump to top and scroll down).

river yew
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Yes i read that second message.
Have followed the instructions the previous time.
But not yesterday

river yew
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ok it's working now, chnightmare
but i wonder why it is lower than other colours

slow cypress
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because it is

fathom ermine
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Because 9 contracts instead of 10.

slow cypress
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purple is weird and has to be the special child

haughty wing
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Purple is the new Blue

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But for Blue it turned out to be solvable

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This time the issue is much more fundamental

river yew
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ok, so, give special love (idle) to purple

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why does neutral gift and division shield matter ?
i mean they're for incoming damage right ?

fathom ermine
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No, they're just for Fragments, and high tier Neutral Gift will obliterate your damage.

river yew
fathom ermine
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Well, they're purple, which kinda matters for the purple Fragments.

river yew
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yes that ok, but why do they obliterate your damage ?

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as the descriptions state about incoming damage

fathom ermine
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Well, no, Neutral Gift doesn't state that, first of all.
But Division Shield in case it's copied by enemies, and Neutral Gift because we're dealing Nature damage.

river yew
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neutral gift to 1 because we don't want to deal neutral ?

fathom ermine
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We have no Neutral damage (besides Omniversal, maybe), so that's just detrimental.

haughty wing
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It massively lowers all non-Neutral damage

river yew
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in case it gets copied ?

fathom ermine
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No, simply because it's in your BP.

haughty wing
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That's just what it does: massively boosts your Neutral damage, but lowers all the other types

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And that's not good since the BP is focused on Nature

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(Although I need to check how far a Neutral version is from working, it's been a while since I last tried)

river yew
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oki ty

foggy terrace
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I'm having a problem getting blue to cycle. I get 0 damage and die almost instantly

haughty wing
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Does it actually do 0 damage, or just not enough to kill anything?

foggy terrace
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not even kill anything

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the 3 other BPs work just fine, some sputter start but still work. This one, I have no luck

haughty wing
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It uses Water damage, which requires a different setup and is also more sensitive to module tiers

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You can also try replacing something like Air Block for Air Barrier to better chance of triggering Sky Blessing (I'm not sure why I don't have Air Barrier in the current version, possibly an accidental removal that doesn't change much at high tiers?)

foggy terrace
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lol I had nature damage turned on. Sadly it still isn't working. My modules must be too low for it to work. Their at tier 100

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I did kinda get it to work by turning all the software off before starting a run the turning them all back on. got to inf 135 before I couldn't kill anything

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This is reinforcing the I'm too low statement lol

haughty wing
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Make sure to get all sources of Water damage, so 10^40 from Infinity, Museum stones, Anvil lock on Water + Tower etc.

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But yeah, this is very module-heavy

foggy terrace
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It did increase my idle by 5x though so thats a plus

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Is this good, or do I need to do a heavier focus?

haughty wing
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Heavier focus would get about 9x more damage - so it's something, but not a game changer

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#1429798403931373720 - but you can use this thing to do it quickly and then go back, it has a Water preset

foggy terrace
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I don't have the anvil lock so I'll try that

onyx condor
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Is Beyond Purple possible?
(long‑running variant of Extreme Purple, like Beyond Blue)

haughty wing
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Theoretically yes, but you'd need to add Energy Regen, and also Rak to lower the cooldowns