#Fragment Farming (Extreme Edition)
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After making that change, I now have a Blue idle of ~4.334e6 (still on Chaos Hard Inf 100B)
And that’s with sub‑optimal town perks, power stones, and other buffs
How much damage is it dealing?
207-210
That should be enough for ChIns
what can be done to improve
Is Glacier Spikes' cooldown below 20s?
19 and 7 with the beyong BP
Ah, Beyond BPs always do something weird and very specific, I don't even remember what this one did
Have you tried using the regular Extreme?
i can't last a minute with regular extreme blue
actually i always get killed before the second glacier spikes proc.
in insane
Then it seems like a cooldown issue.
even with 19s cd
How much damage do you deal with Extreme?
e207 in hard
Also, which Beyond are you using? The one here isn't official and has only 9 Contracts, it seems
Hm, that should be enough for ChIns
the one here
Ah, then I don't know what changes were made to it, exactly, but it has only 9 Contracts, so any idle it sets will be low
Can you post a screenshot of how it dies?
yes i know, but i only tried it once today.
always been struggling with genuine extreme
i deleted them and reimported the BPs, now it's working in insane
blue is ok for now
Nice 😄
yellow and purple seem to have a lot of tweak to do
Depends on the circumstances
I only post BPs that I was able to run myself, but in some cases it's "just barely," so options are needed to make them more widely usable 😄
with purple i can only run in hard, not insane
Have you switched back to Nature damage everywhere?
yes
That's surprising
did you set the specified modules to tier 1?
No ...
Someone needs to read the instructions, it looks like.
yet i read it many times, call it leaking eyes or whatever
No, purple's instructions aren't pinned. Well, they were, but then they got expanded for others, so that no longer fits, and it was continued in the next message (which is why it says "Continued after the fish ⬇️"). You need to jump to the pinned instructions message (or just jump to top and scroll down).
Yes i read that second message.
Have followed the instructions the previous time.
But not yesterday
because it is
Because 9 contracts instead of 10.
purple is weird and has to be the special child
Purple is the new Blue
But for Blue it turned out to be solvable
This time the issue is much more fundamental
ok, so, give special love (idle) to purple
why does neutral gift and division shield matter ?
i mean they're for incoming damage right ?
No, they're just for Fragments, and high tier Neutral Gift will obliterate your damage.
these
neutral gift and division shield are for fragments ?
Well, they're purple, which kinda matters for the purple Fragments.
yes that ok, but why do they obliterate your damage ?
as the descriptions state about incoming damage
Well, no, Neutral Gift doesn't state that, first of all.
But Division Shield in case it's copied by enemies, and Neutral Gift because we're dealing Nature damage.
neutral gift to 1 because we don't want to deal neutral ?
We have no Neutral damage (besides Omniversal, maybe), so that's just detrimental.
It massively lowers all non-Neutral damage
in case it gets copied ?
No, simply because it's in your BP.
That's just what it does: massively boosts your Neutral damage, but lowers all the other types
And that's not good since the BP is focused on Nature
(Although I need to check how far a Neutral version is from working, it's been a while since I last tried)
oki ty
I'm having a problem getting blue to cycle. I get 0 damage and die almost instantly
Does it actually do 0 damage, or just not enough to kill anything?
not even kill anything
the 3 other BPs work just fine, some sputter start but still work. This one, I have no luck
It uses Water damage, which requires a different setup and is also more sensitive to module tiers
You can also try replacing something like Air Block for Air Barrier to better chance of triggering Sky Blessing (I'm not sure why I don't have Air Barrier in the current version, possibly an accidental removal that doesn't change much at high tiers?)
lol I had nature damage turned on. Sadly it still isn't working. My modules must be too low for it to work. Their at tier 100
I did kinda get it to work by turning all the software off before starting a run the turning them all back on. got to inf 135 before I couldn't kill anything
This is reinforcing the I'm too low statement lol
Make sure to get all sources of Water damage, so 10^40 from Infinity, Museum stones, Anvil lock on Water + Tower etc.
But yeah, this is very module-heavy
It did increase my idle by 5x though so thats a plus
Is this good, or do I need to do a heavier focus?
Heavier focus would get about 9x more damage - so it's something, but not a game changer
#1429798403931373720 - but you can use this thing to do it quickly and then go back, it has a Water preset
I don't have the anvil lock so I'll try that
Is Beyond Purple possible?
(long‑running variant of Extreme Purple, like Beyond Blue)
Theoretically yes, but you'd need to add Energy Regen, and also Rak to lower the cooldowns