important-about-tourneys

[cerulean blaze]

Thanks a lot for listening to us! Great to see

[worldly elm]

Players, I want to remind you that the participation of several teams from one clan in the New Way to Play Open & New Way to Play Final** is allowed**! If several teams from the clan advance to the Final tournament, they will be able to participate in it! 🏆

[rose wraith]

good luck to all teams today 🏆

[worldly elm]

I wish the teams good luck! If you have videos with cool highlights, don't forget to share with us!

[mint mason]

maybe a competition on who could submit the funniest or best clips from the tournament with the best getting featured in a video along with some other rewards to encourage participation

[rustic cave]

My team lost to final lower league sad
GGs to R0RY and ESEF

[vapid idol]

Hi @worldly elm. In the "New way to play" tournament, there are not enough teams to complete 8 groups on the third day. Since only the first placed get a ticket, my question is how do you choose the remaining teams so that there are 8 teams in the final tournament?

[stone vault]

ig the same as in winter, whoever has more wins of the 2nd placed teams gets a ticket too

[vapid idol]

So its calculated with the tournament battle's WR 🤔

[foggy mantle]

sounds good

[mint mason]

Hey on NA why are two teams that got top 4 in spring season in the same group on day 2 with only 1 team advancing.

[blissful current]

@worldly elmhi , in third stage are only 22 teams of 32 so is the 10 spots will stay empty or there will be teams from 2nd stage gonna count on top 32 ? ty

[mint mason]

@worldly elm A Last Chance Tournament was something introduced during money blaster I strongly believe that holding a single elimination Last Chance Tournament taking all 7 teams who got second place on NA would be a very good way to decide the last team getting into top 8. It would only take one night as 7 teams with the highest seed getting a first round bye playing in a single elim bracket would only last three rounds.

[orchid geyser]

@worldly elm there seems to have been an issue with the ticket distribution after today. For example, some players got 2 tickets while others got none. Will wargaming be fixing this?

[rich plaza]

Ik of multiple teams that have had this issue. Hopefully this can be resolved soon^

[deft swan]

in a group where there are 3 teams for 2nd place, a ticket to the top 8 will also be issued

[half obsidian]

I agree. It would be cool to maybe put these teams in third stage, the ones that lost the grand final in the second stage I mean
Of course if it's possible

[blissful current]

yeah it would be , but i dont think they will do no time to take to third stage , but at least they should give top 32 rewards to 10 teams from 2nd stage as they in top 32 already

[worldly elm]

Hello, can you accurately describe the situation?
What teams, players and on what server

We'll check the situation on monday

Players, if you have problems with tickets, please contact the support center, it will help resolve the situation faster and more structured. Thank you!

[blissful current]

@worldly elm

[worldly elm]

We don’t change the system of the tournament

[viscid wedge]

I do really hope you'll fill up the top 8 with runners up, to make it a proper top 8. There's a few "groups of death" tonight, and if not, we'll definitely lose some definite top 8 worthy teams because of the seeding. If the top 8 is filled, there's at least another chance for some of them

[mint mason]

😭an unfortunate ending but thank you for the effort put into this season

[blissful current]

so cause of this system no top32 no top 16 no top 8 Great system Dont change it

[worldly elm]

I understand your disappointment, but there are many factors based on which we are holding the tournament in this form. The regulations clearly state the selection system, if you participate in the tournament, you accept it.

I respect your opinion and try to take it into account wherever possible. If something doesn't go the way you like it, it's not because we want to make it worse for you.

Thank you for understanding and thank you for paying great attention to tournaments!

[worldly elm]

We’ll try!

[viscid wedge]

❤️

[half obsidian]

Thanks for understanding. We may be not the best but it's sad, sometimes, after hard working with trainings for weeks or even months, throw everything in 15 minutes because you lose a game.
Unfortunately that's the format, but at least I had some fun. Thanks for the tournament and for working on this. See you in autumn

[mossy mica]

@worldly elm honestly if u plan to fill the top8, no way to take the best second. 2 groups have 2 teams from same clan.. and is easy to see some 3-2 loss agreed before the start.
Only way is last chance tournament to be fair at all.

[sudden canyon]

I don’t think that kind of an agreement will happen but still if it will be decided, the most fair way is to make last chance tournament

[deft swan]

Yeah, in 3rd group already understandable who will win, 2 teams of loca lol

[hazy blade]

Phantastic is team for fun, they are not using voice even and probably won’t come today cuz they don’t care and have something else to do, pls don’t say we will agree with them on something

[zinc narwhal]

Go go phantastic

[mossy mica]

K then, but there is not only ur situation

[quick axle]

We have seen clans with multiple teams throwing to each other before, and it will happen again.

[thick adder]

Eu server is much more difficult now since the CIS players and teams filled up the slots. Please next time give extra slots for top8-16-32 categories instead of diminishing the numbers to 22 or 6 in the coming tournaments. We ve trained for months and Wg does not provide 32 slots even

[zinc narwhal]

Please leave 6 slots do not fill it up, thanks 🥑

[quick axle]

For next time, it would be good to clearly describe in the rules what happens if there is not exactly 32 teams for day 3. To now, this late, to create a system to pick the rest of the 8 teams for finals will most probably be unfair for most of the remaining teams. To pick by best win-lose ratio will be utterly unfair cause it does not reflect the level of the team, but its refelct the wr of the team and how lucky the team has been getting easy opponents in previous stages. Maybe a last chance tour, with the winners going forward could work, but its kinda late now.

Note that in the in-game news, it was said about the open qualifyer tour: "This is a qualifying stage on the way to the main tournament — New Way to Play Final, **which will welcome the 8 leading teams ** from the New Way to Play Open." But IMO better leave it as it is, with only 6 teams in finals, than to make a unfair hasty choice of extra teams.

[blissful current]

ty for the explain

[deft swan]

I don't think they will change anything

[fluid zinc]

: "This is a qualifying stage on the way to the main tournament — New Way to Play Final, which will welcome the 8 leading teams from the New Way to Play Open."

[zinc narwhal]

no

[upbeat shoal]

Good morning and good luck to whoever is participating in today's tournament!

[willow knoll]

@worldly elm question about the ticket situation. will people be allowed to put more than one ticket in during the team creation process for the next stage? if that answer is a yes, then there really isn’t any issue with this. however, if we aren’t allowed to put more than one ticket in, this situation needs to be reviewed and prevented from happening in future seasons.

[zinc narwhal]

Bruh

[sly nest]

dont lie sebul , phantastic uses discord , has strats and had training

[crude gate]

The point of this channel is avoid the nonsense of the normal tournament chat. If you can’t handle acting in a more professional manner, your tournament player role will be removed

[cerulean blaze]

Shows how flawed these annoying 1 qualifier tournaments can be with deciding the actual 8 best teams there are.
Can we just go back to ‘normal’ seasons…..

[carmine walrus]

I see it that the difference between normal seasons and tournaments like this one is where seasons are to find the top 8, tournaments are to find out only the best one

[mint mason]

instead of jumping from extremes with incredibly short major tournaments and month long drawn out major seasons there has to be a medium length that allows for flaws in the seeding system to not be as impactful

[idle wing]

Mainly shows how flawed a format with groups of 4 with just 1 advancing is. Allows seeding to play a huge role, make it groups of 8 RR and 2 advancing to reduce the effect of seeding in round 1.

[viscid wedge]

honestly, I would have liked an additional last chance tour added or something, for the teams that almost qualified, but not quite

[rich plaza]

What did WG say in regards to how they would fill in the remaining spots?

@ivory island 🗿🗿🗿

[ivory island]

idk lol

[rich plaza]

That doesn’t answer how the remain spots will be filled. As far as ik, in regards to the Open, there was nothing in regulations that talked about what would happen if there were an uneven number of groups for the finals, such as in only 7 out of 8 available spots have been filled from the qualifiers.

[viscid wedge]

They haven't said how, or even if, those slots will be filled

[zinc narwhal]

Why would they do that

[deft swan]

Top6 is better xd

[delicate jetty]

not really gonna comment on the present state of this season’s tour, while I understand experimenting with new tour formats, standardising and perfecting off season tour formats asap would probably avoid these problems

[worldly elm]

Hello players!

Regarding additional teams for the final tournament: the decision will be on Monday (give or not give tickets to any additional teams).

Each player can only use one ticket to register for the tournament. Therefore, if your teammate has not received a ticket, please write to the support center. They will help with the situation.

[worldly elm]

The choice was not between a season or a regular tournament. The choice was between: to hold the tournament in the current format or not to hold it at all.

[delicate jetty]

Ah ok i phrased it a bit badly, but what i meant was the formatting of the tournament, not the choice between season or tournament.

Money Blaster was a similar tournament to this but had a different format than this, so this is also a new type of major tournament, what i meant was something like make this like money blaster or make all future winter and summer tournaments like this, so players will know the regulations clearly everytime

[worldly elm]

Unfortunately, there are too many weaknesses. The winter tournament also had a lot of problems that gave us headaches. In this tournament, we tried to fix them a little, but new problems appeared.

https://tenor.com/view/wait-gif-5140636

[mossy mica]

Let all be happy. Last chance with all rest of team in third day. 2 groups of 8, with seconds that start idk maybe in semifinal, and u can do all in one day. And winners of groups get ticket

[upbeat shoal]

I don't really mind LCQ for the two remaining spots but PLEASE check for the regulation breaches before and after @worldly elm 🤝 as someone said in the other channel, it would be pathetic to let qualify and play 2 nearly full/ full cis teams and then find afterwards they shouldn't even play in the first place and that they screwed over 2 eu teams which tried their best to qualify

[worldly elm]

We will check the teams for foreign players, i think.

[upbeat shoal]

Thanks 🙏

[zinc narwhal]

Only top1 teams in their groups should be playin in final part of tour

Also if all of the rules are being changed during the tour maybe we can start top6 like tomorrow or tuesday so we dont have to wait 4 days and we can finish tour few days earlier 🥑

[silent estuary]

if there are no violation checks in between the open and final parts then yea the tournament shud just be continuous, i dont get the point of a 4 day gap

[deft swan]

So what u decided?

[worldly elm]

The announcement will be today, but later

[rich plaza]

Will it be an announcement for all regions as well?

[worldly elm]

Hello my dear players!

We decided to hold the Last Chance Tournament between 4 teams that didn’t qualify for the New Way to Play Final but shown good results in the Open tournament.

**When? **August 2, at 20:00 CEST (for EU), 6 PM (PDT) / 9 PM (EDT) (for NA).
How? 1 group, 4 teams, Double Elimination system, bo3 format.
Who?

EU (1st and 2nd place teams will receive tickets)
✨ [SNTY] BAILA CONMIGO
✨[-SNRG] no asp no fun
✨[FEN1X] FEN1XETTO
✨[RA1D] SUMMER RA1D

NA (1st place team will receive tickets)
✨[PURPL] Purpl Drank
✨[BETTA] PeepoBETTA
✨[PONDA] Panda Slide
✨[-MEOW] Elon Meows

Please note that the tickets are rewarded only if the players participate in the battles in the grand final (no afk).
We have already added teams to the tournament, except for those players who left the clan. Before the beginning of the battles, we can add these players if they join the clan again and inform us about it.

P.S. We excluded the teams nano kobni and S63 AMG from the tournament on the basis of paragraph 11 of the New Way to Play Open regulations, because they violated the first paragraph (exceeded the number of foreign players).

[idle wing]

Thank you for doing regulation checks before the teams are officially invited! I hope this can be expanded to seasons too as this is a very positive development.

[fierce aspen]

Thx a lot ☺️

[honest solstice]

Lets go SNTY 🐝

[rich plaza]

Will the streamers be covering this Last Chance tournament?

[tawdry shore]

Let’s goooo thx tolyan and wg

[rich plaza]

@worldly elm Greetings,

when you say that WG is holding a LC Tournament between the teams that have shown good results in the Open,

How is "good results" being measured. Tournament win ratio? Total amount of tournament wins?

[sly nest]

Snty for the win

[spiral pine]

I am also interested in this question.

Not trying to change any results, but on NA, after MEOW (12-4) and PONDA (13-6), there was a tie among PURPL (12-6), —R— (12-6), and then there was BETTA (14-9).

I am interested to know why —R— got left out, when the quality of their losses was greater and also the quantity was less than those of BETTA. —R— had 6 losses, all of which were to LVG, the previous champions of NA server in Spring and Money Blaster. Contrarily, BETTA not only had a worse win-loss ratio than —R— and PURPL, (BETTA’s 61% as opposed to —R— and PURPL’s 67%), but was losing to far easier teams, 3 losses coming to CCRS and 6 to APX. I would assume that total wins were the measuring factor here, which is very bad, because it will encourage teams to intentionally lose at least one match with a score of 1-2 in every bracket (or 2-3 in best of 5) just so they can play more matches overall and therefore earn more wins.

To clarify, I’m not saying any of that occurred here, all I’m saying is that —R—‘s performance is much more objectively clean and impressive in this case than BETTA’s, and I’d like to know exactly why BETTA was chosen over —R—. It is my understanding that Clan Performance (CP), or in other words a team’s winrate over the course of the tournament, is usually the tie-breaking factor and I was just curious as to why it was not used here.

[worldly elm]

We took into account the results of the performance of the teams in the last stage.

[rich plaza]

And when you say performance, does this mean total number of wins from the previous stage? The win to loss ratio from the previous stage? The seeded winrate?

[zinc narwhal]

just tell its a prank and do top6 🥑

[dry jacinth]

he said last stage why you ask about previous stage makes no sense

[rich plaza]

What do you think is the difference between last stage and previous stage

[deft swan]

Xdd

[foggy mantle]

Omg i like your pfp 😍

[spiral pine]

Perhaps the first day was not taken into account. I believe that’s what Tolyan meant. If that’s the case, I’m going to go back and compare all the teams on the second day.

Edit:

Standings of second day:

1. MEOW (8-3)
2. PURPL (6-5)
3. PONDA (7-6)
4. BETTA (8-7)
   5-6) —R—, CEASE (6-6)
5. REGI (6-7)

I think it is safe to assume this is what Tolyan meant was taken into consideration.

Thank you for the clarification @worldly elm

[rich plaza]

Oh that’s why

[sage finch]

nice to see a 'Last Chance Tour', that is a good move me thinks 🙂

[tardy quartz]

Bo3 for an elim bracket is tufffff

[mint mason]

double elim tho

[mint mason]

@worldly elm 5 members of my team on NA [PONDA] Pandas Flopped did not receive tickets for top 8 so I was unable to register my team. Considering registration closes very early for us tomorrow and before many of my players are awake they will not be able to apply their tickets before registration closes. Those players are: PaggMan, ShermmMan, JtaNumber1Fan and, _Taste. Could you apply tickets to them from your end or register the team since the ticket distribution bug caused us to be unable to register? Thank you for the help and everything you've done to make tournaments better

[spiral pine]

There are only 4 players in your list. Did you forget someone, since you said there were 5 who did not receive tickets?

Edit: upon inquiry, it seems the 4 listed players are the only ones in need of ticket help.

[hazy path]

I know this question has probably been asked before but does the Top 8 tournament effect when we’ll receive rewards for the New Way to play open tournament? As in do rewards for that only come when the ones for the Pro tour do?

[worldly elm]

Hi, I think the rewards for the Open tournament will be sent next week!

[hazy path]

Hey, thanks for the quick response

[worldly elm]

New Way to Play Final, RR stage, 1st day, 1st and 2nd rounds. Streams:
https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/481780881543921664/1004690173386305536

[foggy mantle]

a doubt, will they give any reward for watching the broadcasts or not?

[tawdry shore]

They do not give rewards

[worldly elm]

Rewards for watching will be on August 10, 11 and 12

[worldly elm]

New Way to Play Final, RR stage, 2nd day, 3rd and 4th rounds. Streams:
https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/481780881543921664/1005056382623559800

[silent lynx]

Are there any regulations regarding how many games you have to play during the top 8 tournament to get rewards? @worldly elm

[worldly elm]

No

[silent lynx]

Thank you! Enjoy the rest of your day! 🙏

[rich plaza]

Tolyan never sleeps man

[worldly elm]

I'm shocked myself

[vagrant sentinel]

people's staff

[deft swan]

@worldly elm in next week we get rewards for top8?

[worldly elm]

no, we still need to check the players. expect rewards in 2-3 weeks

[tawdry shore]

Thx

[merry herald]

But don't expect top8 avatar...

[tawdry shore]

😕

[stuck hazel]

@tawdry shore do not get it twisted ok

[foggy mantle]

but next week the rewards of the opening tournament will be given, right?

[tardy quartz]

@worldly elm how will moneys be paid out? By PayPal?

[deft swan]

Yeah

[worldly elm]

yes

[worldly elm]

yes, only PayPal

[foggy mantle]

the rewards have already been given?

[worldly elm]

The in-game rewards for the open tournament will be sent this week, for the final tournament — within 2 weeks after the end of the tournament

[foggy mantle]

[upbeat shoal]

i have a question, why is eu GF gonna be casted by NA people who probably dont follow eu scene?

[worldly elm]

Because we organize a stream, we invited these streamers to our broadcast

[hasty veldt]

Could you invite n9o /rolling swarm "for example" to join with Alexandra they're knows EU server very will

[turbid swallow]

N9o would be nice tbh

[faint trench]

I wanna see Rolling streaming EU games

[zinc narwhal]

We dont want NA streamers streaming EU finals tbh

[ivory island]

I want

[foggy mantle]

I want

[zinc narwhal]

You will be benched in finals so thats why it doesnt matter for you

[ivory island]

Ur polish u dont matter

[rich plaza]

Fatness and Fishy are probably the most experienced/accomplished in the blitz comp scene. I think they’ll do great.

[ivory island]

Thats not the point, they dont follow the EU scene and teams, its just weird not letting the streamers attend the finals after they streamed every single tournament from start to finish
Streamers that are actually invested in who will win, do we always need to point out the obvious?
Tolyan is smart im sure he/she will agree

[zinc narwhal]

^ this

he / she / cat

[sly nest]

Did u just assume their gender

[mint mason]

In tolyan we trust 🐱

but fr wg made a business decision to chose who they thought would be the best for bringing in viewers and creating the best experience possible. if you guys don’t want the two NA streamers chosen which Eu streamers would you rather have and who then shouldn’t get the chance to stream. There’s been 4+ streamers every day on EU so which two should get the spots and who do you then not give a spot.

[ivory island]

Obvious opinion coming from NA player, again missing the point
They can decide amongst themselves which EU streamers they want to pick they atleast attended the whole tourney and know the history and players of the top 4 teams
Also keep in mind potential views and subscribers will be stolen away by these NA streamers without doing all the work of streaming the smaller matches

[sly nest]

@tacit rootim an apache helicopter

[mint mason]

I do find it odd that the fishy n hrf were chosen despite not doing any earlier streams but tbf they both are fantastic streamers regardless of how much they know about EU or even NA comp (they’re both a couple seasons removed from na and unless they’ve been keeping up themselves probably aren’t too familiar with new teams or players)

[worldly elm]

Hello. Thank you very much for paying a lot of attention to all aspects of our game. We do not prohibit other streamers from re-streaming the official broadcast. Also, I want to note that we are officially streaming on Friday for viewers of all regions, the bonus code will also work for EU, NA, ASIA players, we believe that all our streamers can be trusted. Therefore, in return, we expect viewers to respect our decisions.

I ask you to stop this topic in this channel because it is not meant for this.

Thank you, with love, he/she/it/they/cat Tolyan ❤️

[pastel mango]

@worldly elm

[ivory island]

💀

[tacit root]

Fly with me

[worldly elm]

And don’t worry, we read your opinion carefully.

[fluid zinc]

^ that

[rugged root]

❤️

[sullen sentinel]

I appreciate it very much and others certainly appreciate it, I hope so

[wispy osprey]

Alfar#1515 was muted

[tawdry shore]

Alfar 🥺

[foggy mantle]

Tomorrow?

[worldly elm]

Tomorrow

[foggy mantle]

Yes! , Thank u Tolyan😊

[worldly elm]

Congratulations to the team [RISQ] Vengeance! You're the champions of the ASIA-server, great job, we're proud of you. See you in the next tourneys! 🏆

[pastel mango]

GG WP! Respect!

[rose wraith]

[silent estuary]

👌

[worldly elm]

@pastel mango you looked so good today! Thank you Sunny, you did great job!

[-BPS-] Spidrannery, also gj! Thank you for your cool game-play and power I want to watch games like this every day!

[pastel mango]

ahahaha
my best stream ever 😂

[upbeat shoal]

time to rewatch wg stream, thanks for listening to the feedback @worldly elm ❤️
btw we are not gravitas, we are "Speedrunners", gravitas is the second team

[worldly elm]

you didn't see it

[pastel mango]

yoooo guys
let's give shout out to @worldly elm for this NWTP tourneys. Thank u for the cool tourneys.

To all tourney players of all our regions. Our Blitz team spent these days watching beautiful matches! We have so many talented players 🤗 Guys, we're happy that u play tourneys and get new emotions. Don't give up, go on, stay strong and win more prizes in WoT Blitz.

Hugs to everyone 🫂

[ivory zinc]

tolyan mvp 👏👏

[hollow remnant]

Cheers

[fierce aspen]

Tolyan Siuuuu

[upbeat shoal]

tolyan the savior

[shell solstice]

Tolyan on blitz cup stream pls 🙏

[ivory island]

Tolyan 🐐

[silent lynx]

+1

[ivory zinc]

+2 would be interesting so we can get to know her more

[odd crater]

Why not go ham and go for a twister this year, 👀

[tardy quartz]

@worldly elm when can I leave the clan?

[worldly elm]

What should I do? Of course, send my congratulations to [MEL7N] Smelly Melons! One day I'll buy a ticket to play on NA server and never be online again

[worldly elm]

yes, you can leave your clan

[tardy quartz]

Thank you melon sucks btw hence why I wanna leave 🍉🤫

[rocky ridge]

I agree, back to the undisputed champ clan, JKR

[tardy quartz]

🤝

[tardy quartz]

@worldly elm hey Kitty 🐱 can the avatars for blitzcup top4 teams be animated? 🤝

[silent lynx]

• team banners?

[foggy mantle]

Team Camos?

[tardy quartz]

Wym team banners?

[silent lynx]

Like koth except with a team logo

[tardy quartz]

Oh you mean like the thing that goes in the stats area the background ? @silent lynx

[sudden canyon]

Since WG has a bad avatar designer, I would like to ask if it’s possible to make an event like you did in past to design new avatar that will be given as a reward to top4 or top8 or top12… But this time votes will be from tournament players not from everyone. And instead of giving the avatar to winner, you should give some gold.

[latent tree]

While we're on the subject, I wanted to say it again. I think someone had said this idea before and I liked it, it would be nice to give old pro and challenger avatars to those who have a certain degree. For example, it can be given to those who make old pro avatar top4 or old challenger avatar top12. Also, to be honest, I think the old tournament avatars are way better than the new ones. (I know most top4 or top12 teams have old avatars but there are new accounts too, plus more rewards won't hurt anyone xd)

[ivory zinc]

Im sure the rewards for this Blitz Cup will be good. Animated clan avatar can be nice but if i had to choose i rather have new camos and new background for stats.

Clan avatar is already really unique reward so no need to be animated. But long time we dont see new camo or background so it can be a good time for new one. Doesnt really matter if they are animated or not, just them being good looking will work perfectly

[rose wraith]

their gold balance is out of control, so they will try to give less gold

[sullen sentinel]

Imo new animated background for top4 will be nice move from wg like a animated avatars
And I've hope new animated camo for top4 🥺

[tardy quartz]

nah this seasons gold was normal, usually it’s a little bit of gold for exchange of money. Last szn was insane because they couldn’t have monetary prizes

[rose wraith]

I'm talking about the general economy of the game and the role of gold in it

[twin barn]

+1
if there are not new camos or new profile backgrounds, at least a animated clan logo 🙏

[upbeat shoal]

Team camos 🥵

[foggy mantle]

Fr would be sick

[silent lynx]

Yes

[lucid dust]

team camos would be very cool 👍

[tardy quartz]

But how would you do it lol? I think maybe like a team logo on your tank would be sick but camo is like crazy

[lucid dust]

i think a watermelon camo would look very good

[orchid geyser]

Evony top 4 camo 🥱🥱🥱

[rich plaza]

Whip out the minecraft skin editor ez

[odd crater]

It doesnt need to be complex, you can use some sort of form of clan logo or name with color patterns on the standard format for camos, WG has that template, cus it has been used for camo design competitions in the past

Or you could even do a WG bicolor or tricolor standard pattern with the clan logo slapped on the side of the turret and on the front plate or something like that, with the colors of said bi/tri-color being taken from the clans logo, like they had on wot pc basically

This could all be done with a different pattern every year for example, where that pattern is then distributed to clans, that can colour it as they like, then the hard part would be a clan logo onto the tanks, but i dont think its hard too program for WG tbh
Edit: embed failure rip
https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/content/smashing-camo-contest-eu
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/804113562745176097/1008631356177272902/sc.jpeg

[upbeat shoal]

No, create a pattern and then let teams choose color combinations
That shouldn't be that hard honestly

[ivory zinc]

i dont think they will make team camos xdd. We have cw since 2016-2017 and only 3 camos have been released. 1 with the prof pattern (blue/orange) 1 with the cyber pattern (summer/winter,etc) and the last one is the red/blue one (idk name)

so this shows wg doesn’t rlly like making camos for ALL the teams. So i dont think they will make camos for ONE team only xdd. But it would be cool for sure.

Just a new camo would be nice

[odd crater]

you can also let the teams go for it purely on their own, but I think more realistic is a pattern that teams can then color in themselves, who knows what they will do, I doubt it will be for teams lower than top4 ofc, but clan camos designed by the clans would be insane and also making it a twister season thing seems logical to me as well

[tardy quartz]

It would be a really nice addition but I don’t think WG will pull thru, either way tho let’s just hope they bring the offlines back

[odd crater]

I defo think the possibility is there and it should defo be on WGs table imo, but who knows, getting the Russian guys to wherever it will be might be hard

[quick axle]

The NA cw camo is still unique qnd great. Maybe the BPC community tour could one day get own camo? The tournament series Season#4 will be held in 5-11/9 (EU).

[fierce notch]

New camo for top4, old pro top8, cyber top12. its the best

[rich plaza]

I think a new camo would be a great idea

[zinc narwhal]

old pro doesnt look good anymore compared to new avatars - wg

[ivory zinc]

if it doesn’t look good then make new ones 👍

[half obsidian]

Sounds good 👍🏻

[latent tree]

The idea of banning or selecting maps might be nicer than banning tanks. Most of the tanks to be used in the tournament are already known, banning it may be fun at first, but it may be boring in the future. But map banning or selection could have been really nice.

[sudden canyon]

Hello, so, there was a discussion in #tourneys-discussion channel about banning maps in tournaments. I wanted to bring that discussion to here to be sure that this wish of tournament players will be taken seriously.

As I understand, “the ban of maps” system or whatever is like;

Team leaders or teams will choose the maps that they want to play from the map pool of tournaments (here I also want to add that, some people want to delete some of the maps from the current map pool while some of them wants to add more maps to current map pool). And they will also ban some of the maps from letting opponent choose to play on those maps.

Of course there were also ideas against map banning system thinking the current system is good.

[worldly elm]

Picking and banning maps or vehicles are great. But at the moment I have no idea if it will be added to the game and when it will be (I mean automatic).

[wide dagger]

Tell devs to get typing

[fluid zinc]

Looks as if devs are living in a cave with no internet and no access to discord

[worldly elm]

https://tenor.com/view/hush-quiet-silent-zipped-gif-5625359

[mint mason]

petition to give tolyan total control over the developers and game direction

#bestWGemployee

[zinc narwhal]

🥶

[delicate jetty]

+1

[worldly elm]

**Hello me lovely players! ** 🐈‍⬛

We share with you the results of checking accounts of the New Way to Play Final participants.

1. We found out violations of the New Way to Play Final Regulations (paragraph 6, account sharing). In this regard, the following players will be completely deprived of rewards and permanently banned:

EU
_Ekmakarek_

NA
TheM_7
_Taste
JtaNumber1Fan

ASIA
Diffynder_
__Mach3t3
EL_Figa

If this is the first ban, the player will have a chance to appeal the decision through the Support Center. If this is the second ban, then the decision cannot be appealed.

2. Also, team [-1-] S63 AMG (ASIA server) loses rewards completely, since they exceeded the number of legionnaires (paragraph 1 of the regulations).

For everyone who hasn't broken the rules, in-game rewards will be sent later this week or early next week.

[vagrant sentinel]

Thank you for the information and dedication

[obtuse warren]

:D

[fierce aspen]

@craggy needle explain? 😂😂😂

[zinc narwhal]

only one on EU, I assure you this is only a temporary setback. 🤐

[ivory island]

https://ru.wotblitz.com/ru/news/updates/account-transfer/

"As part of the transfer of accounts, each player of the "CIS" server and players of other servers from Russia and Belarus will be asked to decide on which server and in which application their current account will remain: on the "CIS" server operated by Lesta Games with subsequent transfer to the new Tanks game Blitz or on the server "Europe" in the operation of Wargaming in the game WoT Blitz."

This means RU players can pick if they want to stay RU or come EU? If so this is the end of EU comp scene 😂

[sly nest]

Just get better smh@ivory island

[worldly elm]

Players from Russia and Belarus will be considered legionnaires for any team, since they will not officially be included in any list of countries related to a particular server in our tourneys.

[ivory island]

So even if they come to EU server the 2 legionnaires rule still apply to them, ok perfect
There will be alot of players picking EU regardless so that will be interesting

[latent tree]

Players who come to other servers from other servers every season, when a team exceeds the limit, it is not a seasonal ban, for example, if this event happens for the 3rd time, I think that the people who enter that team should be banned. Because that team is preventing teams that will make top16 or top8 during the season. Both the players are bored with this issue and the people who ban them XD. It's so boring that [-1-] clan gets banned every season and hinders European teams

[upbeat shoal]

good!

[sudden canyon]

Banning accounts won’t be a solution by the way, they just create new account grind one tank and play season even without reaching 1k battles

[latent tree]

Then that ip address should be banned from playing on that server.

[zinc narwhal]

gl

[worldly elm]

<@&991691839981752390>, what features would you like to see in tournaments in the future if we suddenly had the opportunity and the developers had time? Please don't write too much, short abstracts would be enough.

[vapid idol]

banning maps 🔥

[oak rain]

banning tanks?

[quick axle]

Teams with 8-9 players, only on large maps

[ivory zinc]

if its important games (top 4 stage) banning maps would be good

[sudden canyon]

Banning maps (not only at top4)

[rich plaza]

Groups of 4 + Double Elim is a fine system, but the creation of stages after the first day should be decided based off of previous placement (1st, 2nd) instead of winrate.

[faint trench]

Banning maps

[upbeat shoal]

map bans for top4 and vote for a map pool so maps like hellas, new bay wont appear in pro tournaments
And better qualification format of course

[ivory island]

banning maps and type 71

and ofcourse better in game rewards if that counts

[zinc narwhal]

Double elim is boring, if there are like few stages of single tournament there should be days without double eliminations.

[latent tree]

Banning maps or it would be nice to choose a map too

[thick adder]

Teams from other regions should be banned before the tournament instead of removing rewards after the tournament ends. Coz more and more CIS teams coming to Eu server and selling slots in their team for money

[rocky ridge]

I know it’s already been said but banning of maps and tanks before each set would be nice. Mainly so teams can go against eachother on maps that each team knows they’re not their best on.

Banning of tanks would allow for the meta to not be as stale as we have been seeing with each introduction of a new heavy. Kran meta , 60tp meta, type 71 meta. It would open up the possibility of more tanks being used.

[hazy blade]

So what would u play on trainings then pls tell me

[tawdry shore]

Only pick and ban for maps please this would be great

[vagrant sentinel]

Best of 13 in grand fianl 💀

[naive crystal]

either offlines, or support for PC players in comp! since PC limiting was originally instated because of offline tournaments, it is no longer necessary as offlines are not a thing. so either one of the two!

[static obsidian]

That would be really interesting to see

[cinder temple]

More tours with only clan members and rewards such as camos (new maps tournament dark woods camo)

[foggy mantle]

more rewards for the top 16, maybe some camouflage different from the top 8 or a different background to encourage playing

[merry herald]

Yes, different backgrounds for each championship tournaments

[jagged hinge]

i think one of the most popular features rn is the banning maps, when playing in blitz cup it was much more exciting getting to ban certain maps and picking spawns for maps, i think it would be sick

[fierce notch]

Yeah new rewards, especially new top4 camo and a new background

[tacit root]

Having an advantage when u come all the way from upper bracket cuz rn in the end it doesnt change anything when ur in grand final in a double elimination system

[spiral pine]

I’d like to see seeding reform. Many ideas have been tossed around but none have really been settled on because it’s a tough issue.

Perhaps if this is not possible, we can make double elimination tournaments truly “double” elimination, and all teams have to lose twice to be knocked out. It’s not cool to lose only the semifinals and be knocked out.

[cerulean blaze]

Ban maps and tanks

[twin barn]

ban pick tanks already been used in wot pc in the "Pacific Invitational 2022" (i have the link if anyone wanna see how it works can dm me), probably wotb can make it work too im not sure
ban pick maps would be good and its way easier
more custom rewards (bg, avatar, camo etc)
offline finals yes
actually make the compensation for camo something useful not just being () every time

[stuck hazel]

Between the 5th-8th places (top 8 tour) give different rewards for each place so everyone could fight for different rewards and not those 4 places receiving the same rewards, same applies for top 13th-16th in the challengers tournament

[civic wind]

generally increased rewards for all brackets
&
obviously always good meta changes, for example trying to ensure one tank doesn’t always dominate every single match I.e type71, 60tp

[sly nest]

cw reward tanks 🧠

[odd crater]

clan camos (top4+-), map bans and clanwar reward tanks (however don't make it so it's the OP tank like how PC is dominated by the T95/FV4201, cus that would kill cw growth for the teams who don't manage to get it)

[crude gate]

Offlines and new cosmetic rewards. New camos and avatars need to happen every season or two

[rocky ridge]

Well that’s kinda the point of this convo to brain storm options.

[crude gate]

Make collectible items the most valuable thing in the game. Everyone has millions of credits by now. That’s not an incentive

[quick axle]

Fix seeding so rerolls dont get so big advantage in X wr compared to old original accos

[astral fulcrum]

Banning maps/tanks but also can we take a vote instead, of what will be the better for the comp scene and the players will be able to choose between what they like the most.

[slate berry]

team customizable camos/ new aesthetics

[mossy mica]

Rn ofc banning maps is a good feature. But the real issues are cis teams and seeding. Pointless to ask everything if these 2 points are not fixed.
Is a clown fiesta that so many teams with skills for at max top16 can fight for top8 abusing seeding. And idea could be consider not as limit 1000 battles at 10 but maybe 5000 or even more. Is even possible that really rerolls and wr in random can dominate this game?
About cis if they not respect the rule of 2 players in team need to ban before

[sudden canyon]

I agree about rerolls dominating the seeding, it should be fixed

Wr seeding at first day of tournament can be used but for next days we need a different formula ig

[ivory zinc]

guys when you say “ban tanks” you really think twice about this? what are you going to do in trainings? doesnt matter😂 your tanks will get banned, you will have to change strats 1 minute before the games. This will lead to bad gameplay/performance and bad show.

ban maps ✅
ban tanks❌

Banning tanks wont bring variety. Teams will just hop on the next OP tank on the list.

[hasty veldt]

1- Bring back the Blitz Cup as it was in the past to watch the teams together
2-banning maps
3- banning tanks so we can see the greatest variety

[vagrant sentinel]

how about this? players choose a map one by one in real time (Blitz Cup or other tours) from the tournament map pool? Of course all maps are blind, a little different from the pick/ban maps

[crude gate]

Seeding that is weighted by battle count in the tier of that tournament

[lucid dust]

new cosmetics (new pro camos and avatars) would be nice

maybe animated team avatars for top 4 in fall; the animated defending champion avatar in game right now tells me that wg is more than capable of implementing it

banning maps is a very good idea

banning tanks is a good idea on paper but with the low variety of usable comp tier 10 heavies, itll end up not making matches more diverse as intended

[odd crater]

Make 3 tactics per spawn, you justmdont have the required amount of willpower bro, :()

[serene tinsel]

i like this idea,because i have 100M credits

[crude gate]

Thanks lol

[tardy quartz]

Banning maps is cool, banning tanks isn’t, it’s useless and ruins the point of having the tank in the game.
More rewards can be nice either in game rewards or monetary prizes

[sullen sentinel]

only ban maps is good option
what everyone think about encounter battles like a alternative for domination ?

[foggy lotus]

Free resupply for tournaments.
Recently I found myself run out of silver and therefore shells in the “New way to play”. That was … indespicable.
Rewards for tourneys (in comparison to effort needed to gather 7+ players for the set time) are often completely worthless anyway, so It shouldn’t be such a deal to make resupply in tours free like it is in training rooms.

[silent estuary]

Can u add a thumbs up reaction to this so i can react to it

[tacit root]

Bad idea it will be even more campy

[sly nest]

No cap kill all!!!

[fierce notch]

this one is good

[fleet bloom]

+1

[twin barn]

Its happened to my team many times
Went all the way through upper bracket and only lost in grand finals but we lost the tournament
Lost the “double” elimination tournament when we only lost once

[upbeat shoal]

+new rewards for teams such as team camos, backgrounds

[tacit root]

[hearty garden]

Godlike idea

[upbeat shoal]

cw tanks would be great addition

[crude gate]

I’ll try?

I don’t think so. Seems to be a channel issue that I can’t touch

[dry jacinth]

i like it :) since they already have is7 collectable from failed event maybe they can give it to blitz cup participants

[half obsidian]

Shame for me I can't get enough old :(
Hope at least these new rewards are only exclusive for top 8/4 and the old ones don't expire

[silent estuary]

Betting on teams in top 4 of a major tournament?
This way maybe ppl can get into the competitive side a bit more?

[ivory island]

yes teach children to gamble from a young age

[storm oracle]

@half obsidian

[upbeat shoal]

not betting but maybe the community vote again? as it was in 2018 with true challenger camo

[half obsidian]

Banning maps for sure;
Make higher the amount of battles at tier 10 needed, at 5000 or even 7000;
Then about recent tournaments such as "money blaster" and "new way to play", remove the single elimination (I think it's single elimination) in the first stages in order to avoid lack of teams in latest stages

[ivory zinc]

+1 good idea

[odd crater]

honestly with a decent system, things such as seeding become almost negligible, if you select a double elim system with 8 teams and have the top3 (for example) of those groups advance to a further part of qualifier you won't have any issues, the reason seeding is an issue is cus the tournament system makes it so important, 🥱

[crude gate]

Betting is a terrible idea especially when gambling is already a problem and so controversial in video games currently. A vote for your favorite team poll would be great

[worldly vessel]

Banning maps is kinda ok idea, but rewards should get rework (more cosmetic items, even tank). Its boring when we didnt get any new rewards like camo/backgrounds, even tank for small achievements in cw

[half obsidian]

Just a reference to my previous team. Sometimes a bad day can ruin months of trainings 👍🏻
I also think it gives chances to the teams who just got a bad matchmaking

[idle wing]

Exactly, the priority of WG should thus be on the improvement of the format used in their tournaments (both seasons and shorter tournaments) to improve the experience for the players. Many ideas have been offered in this very chat by many people including ourselves, so WG should easily be able to improve it, be it one step at the time.

Also I’d love to see a CW representative system to be set up. Would make player feedback easier to process for WG.

[ivory zinc]

guys ik system must be good and fair but no one wants a long qualification system like before. its a waste of time tbh

if u have good and short qualif system tell it to tolyan maybe she likes the idea , but its difficult to find a short and fair system i think

[idle wing]

Improvements don’t always have to come at the cost of time. One issue now is that groups of 4 with 1 advancing basicly “maximize” the importance of seeding. Change it to groups of 8 with at least 2 advancing and suddenly you create more opportunities. Not a huge improvement, but an improvement none the less. However this allows placement in this group of 8 to determine the seeding in the next stage, which again, makes the WR based seeding (which isn’t liked) even less important. Of course many more opportunities exist, but it’s asked to be short..

But to suggest a complete format, from start to finish I think is too much since we don’t know WGs intentions. Not to mention that such formats most likely have to be used on all 3-4 servers, each with their own issues.. If WG is committed to changing it, they should honestly open a private conversation with a select few knowledgeable members of the Cw community and try to work smth out together. Integrating both WG staff and CW players will eventually lead to the best player experience pleasing both sides. I know for a fact that many big esports have improved in quality by having conversations with the orgs and players.

[half obsidian]

For me it's good have this tournaments, they are fast and can save a lot of time, but it is not fair that you lost 1 game and you're out. I just wanted to say they should rework these "quick tournaments" in order to avoid for example what happened in this last summer tournament, which was lacking of teams in top32 and top8. There are some ppl who are lucky to have access to good team and reach high goals, some are not so lucky or maybe they face very strong opponents or even they are in a bad mood.

[rugged root]

**TL;DR - flexible rewards maybe thanks to a new currency ? Better rule enforcing. And I’m sure everyone else has mentioned the tournament system, so I’ll leave it at that. **

Building on a message I’d previously sent here.

I’d assume 75%+ of players own the old pro avatar in top2-4. Like honestly if you look at the names in top2-4 it’s like the same guys every year +/- 10 guys max.

About tournament rules.

I think they are fine rn, and they only issues I see is place selling for top8s which cannot be adresses unless you decided to only give the tickets to the team in a clan which qualified or scored most cups/points and track that the accounts are login in from the same ip adresses in qualifications and in top8-4. With short tournaments it’s increasingly easy for a team to make top8 and sell the spots to other players.

To build on the idea of the season coin you could also make « pro coin » currency to buy stuff in the « e-sports » section of the store. So that players winch already own camos could invest in other rewards(T10 prems?)

[quick axle]

When will you decide is it 2 or 3 foreign players allowed in Blitz Cup?

[dry jacinth]

just allow all players that transferred their accounts

[worldly elm]

The restriction applies only to players from Belarus and Russia. They can't be included in the tourney lists of servers countries, because in the territory of these countries it will simply be impossible to download the application. Therefore, if someone somehow manages to use the application, then the legionnaire rule will apply to him in any case.

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sad-sad-face-alone-waiting-gif-21396787

Let's be very careful about what we write in this channel and how much. The smaller and more structured the messages, the more likely it's that I won't miss an important things later

[crude gate]

Tolyan has a point. This channel was created to give dedicated comp players a channel to talk directly with the tournament coordinators and be able to have real discussions. This isn’t something we really have ever had and that they didn’t need to do. Appreciate it and don’t take advantage of it. We won’t let this channel turn into the regular tournaments one… and if that means removing roles from people that don’t handle themselves respectfully here, then we will do that

[worldly elm]

P.S. I love you guys, remember it in any case

[obtuse warren]

:peppohappy:
I have one question that interests me, will tournaments now be more "monitored" in terms of login and location in order to avoid Russian players?

[quick axle]

Would it at some point be possible introduce in-game attachments/avatars where clans/teams/players can get part of the income? This could help to bring Blitz esport to a new level.

[upbeat shoal]

i dont know about the crowdfunding part but getting pro teams more than just an avatar once a year or clan logo would be pretty cool.
Team camos, team backgrounds and possibly attachments and of course, cw exclusive tanks

[foggy mantle]

I like these share of ideas. Having a unique camo rewarded to teams that win twister/blitz cup (such as the true challenger camo) for every season to keep the rarity of it would make the tournament scene even more cool. Idk how many people would be for backgrounds I’m sure there are people interested. Attachments for specific teams would be cool; definitely have a lot of room to play there. On the topic of CW tanks I think that we can use the current season coins system to achieve those; clan missions, season coin tournaments and professional tournaments could reward season coins (each giving a different amount based on the difficulty).

On the topic of prize money, I think that it will grow in proportion to the comp scene.

Finally, I think that having a set tournament setup, schedule, and maybe even more tournaments in a year (LAN events????) that would cause more interest.

I think most complaints about comp could be fixed with either more tournaments and more rewards, because we mostly just want to play and get our times worth of training in rewards.

[rich plaza]

I think that ultimately, we just want better transparency from WG’s side

[silent lynx]

But Toylan has taken great steps to keep the player base informed, and keep us in the loop with changes/ it actually seems like our opinions are being taken.

[foggy mantle]

Yeah I’m interested to see what’s in store for Fall

[rich plaza]

Tolyan’s a great step and i think I speak for everyone when we appreciate her(?) efforts. I just wish it didn’t take so long to publish tournament information because having a tourny announced <14 days before it’s commencement isn’t the most convenient.

[crude gate]

We’ve needed someone like her since 2018

[tardy quartz]

@worldly elm what do we think about letting the 4x undisputed NA champions being able to test the new tanks coming into the game?!!!?

[ivory zinc]

tournament info sooner pls

[fierce aspen]

U have time miguel

[ivory zinc]

🥸❔

[worldly elm]

Complicated question...

Estimated information on the autumn season:

• an early announcement will be at the end of September,
• the regulations will appear in the first half of October,
• and the qualifiers will most likely start at the end of October.

But I want to note that this is approximate information that maybe will help you understand the dates a little better...

[fierce notch]

Thanks for these early infos. But did you mess up the months or is that correct? Cause last year qualis started in mid september and the year before at the beginning of september

[worldly elm]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-you-dont-believe-me-liza-miller-younger-oh-my-gosh-you-dont-trust-me-you-have-no-faith-in-me-gif-21639455

the info is correct

[kindred herald]

if there is an offline tournament planned for this year, would it be announced later?

[worldly elm]

Unfortunately, there will be no LAN tournament this year.

[hazy blade]

Why

[worldly elm]

For a number of external and internal reasons. The preparation of a LAN tournament requires a lot of resources and the stability of situation, at the moment it's not very easy 🙄

[kindred herald]

understandable, thanks for letting us know

[delicate jetty]

thank you for info 🥰

[vagrant sentinel]

have the same theme as last year?(blitz cup) Or is it another simple tournament?

[worldly elm]

Not Money Blaster or New Way to Play scheme

[zinc narwhal]

🥲

[ivory zinc]

thanks tolyan

[tardy quartz]

You’re the goat

[worldly elm]

Thank you guys for your ideas, we will take it into consideration.

I also want to draw the attention of some players: I am not responsible for test clans. If you want to contact Alexandra, don't DM me, ping her in the channels on the server.

[spiral pine]

Then should I ping her with my above message? Thank you for that information.

Edit: Thank you! 🙂

[worldly elm]

I sent it to her this time

[sullen sentinel]

Honestly, I like Tolyan's contact with the players, everyone appreciates it because finally it will be possible to fight for something that was not, I appreciate it and I have great respect for you. Keep it up

[mint mason]

@ Alexandra Matyush#3017 tournament players love tolyan

[tepid flame]

For the future big tour mm seeding it would be nice to see that you cant get easier mm just by doing rerolls. Is it possible to fix?

[worldly elm]

✨ Top 4 Players of the New Way to Play Final, please check your mailboxes for PayPal accounts confirmation emails ✨

P.S. You can use the Vabon's comment to indicate that you're a cool guy, and have already submitted a confirmation 👇🏼

[tawdry shore]

Already done 😎

[worldly elm]

Hello players. In September, quick tournaments will be held according to the following schedule:
3v3 on Monday
2v2 on Wednesday
7v7 on Sunday

Spectators bug will be fixed most likely next week

[viscid wedge]

@worldly elm the tour times being changed one hour makes things difficult for quite a few players - especially the UK based ones. 8pm CEST seemed to work best for most people. Can I ask why Wg changed the time?
And will this be temporary or is this something we need to keep in mind for the big seasons too? 😬

[worldly elm]

Hello. If you mean changes to 7v7 Quick Tournaments, then from next week we will add an hour (until 22 CEST). Other tournaments are not affected by this change at all.

[viscid wedge]

Thank you, glad they're going to be extended so that people are more free to decide when to play then =)
and glad to hear the big tours will still start at 8pm CEST 😁

[quick axle]

Any news, will the spec mode bug be fixed soon? - update: working now in training room!

[tawdry shore]

What about room chat bug ?

[worldly elm]

hello, what do u mean? and i'm not sure this question is connected with this channel topic

[tawdry shore]

I mean in training room we can not write or see the room chat, it is a bit annoying when u do trainings and can't directly speak to room mod to switch players, but yeah it ain't that tourny related sorry :/

[tardy quartz]

It’s been a month and no moneys please send money I’m going broke

[worldly elm]

<@&991691839981752390> Hello my dear players. What would you add/change in the training rooms?

[oak rain]

The ui and make the swap spawn points not hidden

[forest pendant]

another spot for a spectator could be nice sometimes

[rose wraith]

I would give players the opportunity to set any fan mode in the training rooms, I understand that it will take a lot of resources, but you can dream)

[sudden canyon]

First, I would fix the chat bug in room

Second, I would let room creators set the fun modes

Third, I would add an option to ban tanks

Fourth, I would add a basic and fast voting system for players in room for map, I don’t say the most voted map will be automatically selected, the controle of choosing map must still be on room creator but other people in room should be able to show the room creator which map they want most

Fifth, I would change the spectator limit to unlimited and I also want to say here that, when there is a spectator, in rooms or in tournaments, it effects the spawn points of tanks in battle, I would not let spectator tanks effect the spawn points of tanks in battle

Sixth, I would let room moderator change the player limit and make it more than 7vs7, maybe options to make 8vs8, 9vs9, 10vs10 battles etc

[quick axle]

1. Fix chats
2. Add more spectator spots
3. Add a possibility to mark/check ☑️ training rooms for cw trainings (make them easier to find)
4. Add possibility to go spec helicopter mode/freecam with touch device with tank info visible
5. add possibility view replay from spec mode

[autumn quarry]

some ideas:

• max people in room to 30.
• 4 spectators for each team.
• add mode maps as well.
• freecam for spectators on mobile.
  I understand that some of this might not be doable, like I said those are just some ideas.

[neat elbow]

Just want to point out for the fellow players, if you see your idea or something very similar to it above. please don't send it again.

[spare goblet]

Fun modesss!!!

[modest stirrup]

1. I would like changing the chat to the not bugging one
2. Replays from the spectator mode
3. Free camera on mobile

[pulsar lotus]

the game mode

[foggy mantle]

More spectators on each team

[velvet token]

Opportunity to make someone Co-host. He could for example change players of another team.

[zealous pier]

add one more spec just so all 10 players of a roster can see the training

[naive crystal]

1. add special game modes
2. co-host with permissions to move people around, swap maps & other TR settings
3. add another spectator slot, so all 20 people in the room can either play or spectate

[idle wing]

Maybe then a suggestion would be the addition of votes to show the support of the community for certain ideas. The importance of suggestions is now highlighted through repetition of certain ideas.

[civic wind]

-if at all possible, a feature to have some bots / none moving vehicles on a plain map would be cool, to see armour highlighting with different guns
-fix training room chat bug
-freecam for mobile
-kind of related but ability to rewind replays to watch back training battles instead of having to reload the entire replay
-ability to mark a room as a cw training instead of a fun room to not have to scroll past so many rooms to find the one you want

[quick axle]

• while fixing latest chat bug, fix also old chat bug which occur when you quickly switch app and go back to room (chat wont work anymore)

[sour ivy]

• allow players to choose spawn location before match so no maus top middleburg
• filters/tags for training rooms ie casual, scrims, clan only, mini game, etc

[lucid dust]

choosing spawns is unfair. imagine u are one med on middleburg and u get rushed by 5 types spawning up top

• increase player limit in training rooms to maybe 25 and then increase spectator slots to 3-4 on each side.

[spiral pine]

I’d like to see an ability to hand off room lead to someone else when the host needs to leave, similar to handing off clan leadership to someone else. This way the room can continue and doesn’t have to be remade if people are still interested.

Perhaps we could also get skirmish-sized maps added to training rooms. That could make smaller rooms a little more interesting and fun.

[rich plaza]

Allow for multiple people to be granted permissions by the room owner to move around players and edit room properties

Also increase number of spectators to 3.

[sour ivy]

of course prio would go to meds on med side and heavies on heavy side, but in matches dominated by one vehicle class it would be nice to designate some tanks to certain spawns as it would give more freedom to the player and compliment strats better. this could be an option for tourneys as well, but i imagine it would be difficult to implement

[lucid dust]

or just stick to the current system where spectators ready up in lights to not mess up heavy spawns 👍👍

[rich plaza]

Why not improve that by not having spectating tanks take spawn spots in the first place.

[sour ivy]

feels like an addition that would benefit newer teams with no knowledge of spectator spawns and make life easier for better teams. i sure dont enjoy lugging my slow ass up from the bottom of normandy

[kindred herald]

i can't remember if this is already implemented, but players put on spectator mode should have their replay saved

[rose wraith]

why do the spectators not see the hp of allies and opponents?

[worldly elm]

Tourneys in the modes: https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/481780881543921664/1019216369557979238

[worldly elm]

Guys, thanks for your messages about the training rooms. We sent the ideas to the developers.

[worldly elm]

It's hard to say... some changes can be made quickly, some slowly...

[mint mason]

thanks tolyan! 🐼

[rich plaza]

Letsgoo

[keen leaf]

1. Let players play any fun mode (uprising, gravity, etc.)
2. add more space for spectator players
3. Let spectator players talk in the chat (idk if they can, i havent played for a while)
4. Im not sure about this one, but maybe let players play any released techtree/premium/collector tank that they don't have in the garage (only for the training rooms ofc)?

(Sorry for the late reply btw lol)

[astral fulcrum]

Spectators can talk on touch but not on pc

[sudden canyon]

On some maps, I observed that the same moves are repeated frequently, the same positions are played over and over, and on the same maps the options of the leaders who deal with tactics are very limited. I believe that such difficulties should not be experienced in tournaments that show the highest point of the game, and matches where intelligence and talent speak should be watched to the audience. In this context, I expect everyone to show their opinions to the removal or restructuring of some maps currently in use.

In my opinion, faust, new bay and hellas needs some rework and some new usable spots should be added, otherwise they shouldn’t be played on tournaments.

I believe there will be people who will agree with me and some will disagree and some will add more maps to my “should be deleted” list. As this is the channel where we discuss about tournaments to make them more attractive, I wanted to come up with this idea. I am waiting to see others opinions with interest.

[hazy blade]

Thats good its mobile game

[astral fulcrum]

Yes

[worldly elm]

Rockfield

Desert Sands

Middleburg

Mayan Ruins

Fort Despair

Oasis Palms

Black Goldville

Winter Malinovka

Castilla

Port Bay

Canal

Vineyards

Naval Frontier

Dynasty's Pearl

Alpenstadt

Faust

Normandy

New Bay

Hellas

Yukon

Ghost Factory

Molendijk

You can vote for the maps you like and don't like 👆🏼

<@&991691839981752390>

[upbeat shoal]

How is molendijk not getting slaughtered?? That map is horrendous 😂

[velvet token]

Personally I'd like to see himmelsdorf back as a tournament map.
I dont exactly know why it was removed.

[astral fulcrum]

Himmelsdorf lmao

[vagrant sentinel]

where himmelsdorf hill 💀

[mossy mica]

Where mirage?

[zinc narwhal]

Bring back himmelsdorf 🦡

[sullen sentinel]

I really want this map back and lost temple

[ember fractal]

It’s quite a lost temple at the minute

[rocky ridge]

Cuz it’s way better than ghost factory 💀

I guess we shall agree to disagree

[upbeat shoal]

is it? Id much rather play ghost factory than molendijk

[tacit root]

ur crazy then

[cerulean blaze]

Both should get outta here tbh, rather have hellas than molendijk lmao

[steep bear]

Can we make Mirage or Copperfield in tier X please 🙏

[fierce aspen]

????????

[lapis spire]

Why do people not like black goldville? imo it’s a cracked map

[kindred herald]

no way there’s a 10:1 approval rate of Port Bay and Middleburg

arguably least balanced maps in terms of spawns besides Vineyards

[cerulean blaze]

Same, balanced and focussed on strategical play

[lapis spire]

I personally think port is a little bit more balanced but I definitely can’t say I want middle that map is down right horrendous

[sudden canyon]

@worldly elm hi, when will the voting end? And what will happen after the voting? Will maps be deleted from map pool or will there be some restructions?

[worldly elm]

As a minimum, I will send the information to the person who working with the maps. As a maximum, 1-2 most disliked cards will be removed from the major tournaments of the autumn season.

[spiral pine]

Very cool. Thank you for the option to give our input!

[sudden canyon]

I expected some changes on map pool for 100% but its okay, at least there is something that will happen. Thank you.

[rich plaza]

Why not the maps with the least favorable ratios? Some maps have more total votes than others.

[sudden canyon]

Its the same result… If we will look to most voted ones, ghost factory and hellas are going to be out. If we will look at ratios its the same again;

Desert Sands: 1.5409

Black Goldville: 1.1549

New Bay: 1.2428

Hellas: 1.8596

Ghost Factory: 2.0192

(Counted only the maps that have more dislikes than likes)

[worldly elm]

Hello my dear players! Due to an important update (https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/501823922749308939/1022085189989572608), Quick Tournaments in Asia (and possibly in Europe) will be cancelled. Sorry, and thank you for understanding!

[hearty wasp]

unfortunate

[mossy mica]

Hellas is horrible

[sudden canyon]

With the accounts transferred from RU server, there will be some problems on EU comp. They will either join EU teams that were existing already or they will create new teams for themselves.

The first option (to join EU teams that were existing already) is not sounding realistic to me. Because if there will be only 30 new players coming from RU to play on EU comp, it means only 2 of them can join into same clan.

So 30:2 = 15 | they can join to 15 different teams, but problem is there are already some legionaires playing on EU teams for a long time so this seperation will up to 17 teams minimum in my opinion. And then as we see there are no 15 good teams on EU and because RU playstyle is different they won’t even fit on EU teams because they will think we are not on their standards.

I’m worried in this case they will create their own teams and play major tournaments without getting rewards.

I think you guys need to start thinking about solutions already.

[worldly elm]

We think about this problem, don’t worry

[viscid wedge]

This is where I think it would pay off to check teams before top 8 starts, so teams that don't qualify to get prizes don't get to play it and 9 and further can "shift up" if needed, so to speak

[upbeat shoal]

100%

[quick axle]

yes, same go for Challenger

[woven horizon]

Nah, nobody cares about challengers

[mossy mica]

Basing on the number of cis CW players, they could also change the format of the season, maybe having a top10 and top20 instead of 8 and 16. This also would fix a bit.

[sudden canyon]

Yes

[fierce aspen]

It’s fine u will have to work a bit more now

[edgy kraken]

+1

[rugged root]

I think having more competitors is a good thing regardless, but yes, rules must be able to support better this change.

[winged cedar]

Change the rules, though this might be a bit more complex that WG has thought of at first.
While allowing CIS players to transfer their account to EU server, it would also make sense that WG allows those players to participate in tournaments on EU server without numerical restrictions. Apart from potential connection issues, I have never understood those location restrictions.

The issue at hand are the restrictions / sanctions on paying cash prizes to players located in certain CIS countries, while in game prizes wont be an issue.

[viscid wedge]

That's part of the issue. CIS players are still supposed to play in CIS - just in the game that'll not be run by WG anymore. That's also what's been advised by WG - for CIS people to transfer to the 'new' game, rather than to EU. A portion of the people now transferring to EU might not have access to the game anymore come October, but not be aware of that yet (as the game will no longer be available in the app stores there)

[upbeat shoal]

Then make changes for the next year and dont change anything last minute before the biggest tournament of the year..

[foggy mantle]

they can download the game as APK or you can download it by connecting to the application store of another country, it is not very difficult.

[fierce aspen]

Why change the rule

[latent tree]

I've played many games before but I haven't seen any server merges in any of them, it's ridiculous and illogical. It's going to be bad in every way and it's going to be a return to WG. A separate place could be opened on the European server for Russian players. When you enter the game now and look at the training rooms, you will see that they are all Russian rooms and I just did play one match, the first message written was in Russian...

[rose wraith]

many Ukrainians who communicate in Russian came to the servers, and the CIS target audience will remain on the server, so there is no reason to panic

[fierce aspen]

Hahaha don’t panic. U aren’t able to play because the Russian messages? On Eu server there are like 30 differents languages.

[rose wraith]

really

[latent tree]

🤦

[sudden canyon]

Idc about their language or etc but I think EU server was not ready for this.

We experienced some ping and loss problems because of the fullness in server I think

[lapis gate]

A large number of good players from the region came to the European server, I don't think it's worth anything about it

[thick adder]

good old days are gone

[thick adder]

I ve warned about this problem 2 months ago, nobody listened

[zinc narwhal]

ok 🦡

[thick adder]

said 1.5 month ago

[rugged root]

Banning teams from competing all together doesn’t seem like a fair solution.

[rich plaza]

I wonder what kind of teams are supporting the team ban.

[zinc narwhal]

ban clans sounds better

[astral fulcrum]

What’s wrong with the russians?

[fierce notch]

cuz they're now on the eu server? xd These cis players are now part of eu. so I think some things will have to be changed considering the former outer server players rules

[sudden canyon]

They are on EU now, but they were not supposed to be. They still have RU server to play, but it counts like another game

There is nothing changed from the situation in past

[rose wraith]

are you serious? if I start writing why, I will be banned, but I think you understand WHY even without that, read the news, maybe something happened in Ukraine... I don't even know how to give you a bigger hint

[astral fulcrum]

Why does everything have to lead to the politics

[fierce notch]

if wg would've let go of the eu server imo yes, since you wouldnt have a own wgserver anymore...

[worldly elm]

Just don't mix players from Russia and Belarus with the entire CIS server. There are many other countries there, players from which will move to the eu

[neat elbow]

1. Don't bring politics here.
2. This channel is for tournament discussion only, unrelated discussion will result in you losing your role

[worldly elm]

I will clean up messages that are not related to tournaments in this channel, don't be offended.

[neat elbow]

This also goes to violating the rules for tourney role. If your nickname doesn't match your IGN you will lose your role and will have to reapply for it

[worldly elm]

how do u like ur vote results?

[rich plaza]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an EU argument against CIS transfers tourny teams that doesn’t cover politics/racial tensions

[upbeat shoal]

Im honestly surprised with seeing desert sands over there but other than that it seems reasonable

[ivory island]

yeah i think they misspelled castilla, but its fine honest mistakes happen

[sudden canyon]

Yes I think fine

[rich plaza]

Castilla and Fort Despair are higher than I expected.

[foggy mantle]

Dynasty too tbh

[worldly elm]

<@&991691839981752390> If you write what you don't like about the lowest three maps, I will be grateful to you ❤️

[cerulean blaze]

Ghost factory is very unbalanced, hellas and desert sands often have the same game plan for both teams, almost no ways to play diverse and interesting strategies

[fierce aspen]

Pls don’t ban hellas we can’t free 2-0 in others maps

[foggy mantle]

Black goldville, desert sands and ghost factory are the most unbalanced maps for my opinion.

[rugged root]

This tbh, ex-CIS players on EU should have nothing to do with politics and race. The only conversation that is worth having is how to integrate them better without anyone feeling hurt. It’s no point arguing they shouldn’t be there because it’s not going back, what’s done is done.

From my pov, I also have a bit of apprehension regarding how it will work out, but as a supposedly decent player with some cw experience I’m excited to face new challenges and curious to see who will rise to the top.

[odd crater]

Ghost factory doesn't really give a lot of special things to do it usually turns into a mess inside the factory where the spectator free cam also bugs on top of it. The A-side also doesn't really get played, it's mostly light and meds skirmishing to find better angles, the heavies try to control BC and D usually

Desert sands, personally I think there is a lot of issues here, the crossings over the rails imo make a massive divide in the map which I don't like, personally I would lower the rail and add more gaps to push through, on top of that the town is very easy to get stuck in, I'd add more buildings (or hills) in the spawns of the C-side and the B cap should receive some hard cover too, maybe even move it to the A-side ever so slightly as well

Hellas feels to me like A and B are too exposed to cap and C also is a bit meh to fight at, inside the C cap tanks can't really peek, and because of the TD positions you can't peek high on the hills either, also the A-side team spawn is slightly favoured cus B is cappable if the enemy plays C side with TD position for decaps, while you can't cap A from the mirrored spawn, I personally think A and B cap should be moved a bit closer towards C so more the middle and also the trenches have too few entries for me personally, it feels like movement is very restricted because of them.

as in if you don't want to take the trenches you have to drive all the way around them and if you are in the trenches it takes you a lot of time to get out again, I also think the C-side of hellas is too exposed to long sniping positions, especially when rotating it's very open imo

[rich plaza]

If WG really wants to understand what maps are unbalanced, they should just start recording all the battles taken in top 16 and above and observe what parts of the map are frequented the most during different time periods.

[sonic echo]

Desert sands - it’s common to meet head on in the desert and u only have 2 places (bridge or the opponent side of rails) from which to flank the opponent if they go to desert or both teams go to different sides and the map is made so whoever gets cap lead can sit and do nothing until the opponent pushes. I think having the map cut into 2 such clearly defined halves and having the B cap so in the open is why it’s like this. Only A or C cap are realistically able to be played for and if u both go to A then neither team wants to really be the first to push because it’s easy to hold nicely. This results in the same stalemate and boring gameplay in every game regardless of whether the teams both go A or they go A or C

Hellas is the same always head on at C and neither team wants to push, u can’t flank at all, u both get A and B each and nothing happens for ages. Either that, or 1 team goes C and caps that while the other tries to double cap A and B while their opponent tries to decap. If they manage to get double cap then the team that goes c has to painfully make it all the way up until they’re directly in front of their enemies face to recap A and B

You could say that Hellas and desert sands are quite similar in that there are stalemates regardless of which side teams decide to go. Both teams at C on Hellas is similar to both A on desert sands. 1 team go C and 1 team go A on desert is similar to 1 team go C and the other go AB in Hellas. If the team that go A get cap lead on desert sands it’s like if the team that go AB can’t cap the opponents cap either A or B on Hellas and if that team manage to get double cap it’s like if the team who went town got cap lead on desert sands

Idk about ghost I like it

[fierce aspen]

How unbalanced maps?

[zealous pier]

canal should defo be above yukon, 100%
it's one of the oldest maps in the game and it's the one that withstanded time the best among all of them

[rich plaza]

This upcoming blitz cup would be a fantastic opportunity to do this. It shouldn’t take too much effort either.

[astral fulcrum]

Exactly, i fully agree with this

[odd crater]

The possibility for that should exist tbh, iirc map inspector has heatmaps of random battles movemsnt, shooting lanes, etc.

[rich plaza]

Yeah, I just think that having heat maps from competitive games would provide much better data than listening to a vocal minority on discord.

[civic wind]

but I like Hellas :(

[languid coyote]

Personally, I think desert sands and Hellas are both great maps. Hellas seems to be one of the most balanced maps because it is almost perfectly mirrored. The team that wins on Hellas simply has to outplay the other team. As for desert sands, I don’t see what people are complaining about it. If you play desert side, you can still reset B and the same can be said for C side. It turns into (most times) a fight over who has best control over the rails. This is great because skilled teams will be rewarded for good coordination, planning, and pushing together. I definitely see the argument for ghost factory though.

[upbeat shoal]

Hellas a good map? Here you go 🧢

[lapis gate]

❤️

[ivory zinc]

@worldly elm thanks for your work, we have been asking to have opinion on map pool for years

[rich plaza]

Why not just use heat maps

[foggy mantle]

Desert Sands should not be banned imo. Dunes brawls are too fun

[lucid dust]

^^ anyone complaining about desert or downvoted it are usually not good at brawling

[tacit root]

Im not good at brawling then 🙁

[woven horizon]

They are just not fun at all basically

[fierce aspen]

#TeamHellas💗

[rich plaza]

Desert’s an aggressive map and I love it

[wide dagger]

Desert sands being that low is surprising to me

[tardy quartz]

Yeah I’m a 4x champion and desert sands is amazing

[wide dagger]

Hellas is nowhere close to mirror

🤨

[hazy blade]

Remove castilla from game

[spiral pine]

I upvoted all the maps, so rather than give reasons why I dislike any, I’ll instead offer reasons why I like the 3 least-liked.

Hellas:
Hellas is super cool because it emphasizes spawn control. The cap-dense side of the map (A and B side) is unreliable if the team playing it does not maintain either their own spawn or aggress to take away the enemy’s spawn. I love this because it’s different from the typical “cap both the heavy caps and hold” type of playstyle seen on other maps such as Winter Malinovka, where a BC cap can be forced without actually taking enemy spawn or maintaining your own. Overall, the combination of positioning and caps are really awesome on AB side. As for the C side, I love how much kiting potential there is (especially on north). There are some really nasty positions that can be taken to slow down or completely stop a push which is amazing. Overall I think map-control is the best way to play Hellas currently, but I would recommend any teams who are struggling with it to try something new.

Ghost Factory:
I believe Ghost Factory is one of the most unique maps as well, which also makes it one of my favorites. Factory control is such a key part of this map, or at least having some sort of factory presence to play around. I agree with others that the A-side of the map is kind of dead except to mediums, just because it’s so hard to leave that area, but it does provide a clean, safe route to take away the enemy’s spawn if that is part of your team’s plan to counter the meta of going primarily towards D. (Continued in next message…)

[cerulean blaze]

I agree on not wanting hellas removed
Desert and ghost can leave

[thick adder]

Dessert can leave, ghost and hellas can stay

[spiral pine]

(Oops I forgot to send the other half, lol! Continued…) I love the positioning of the doors to enter the factory. I hate to give away my top 32 trade secrets lol but the side doors (the ones in the North and South of the map) are really awesome avenues to approach early B or C resets/nukes. I’d again invite any teams that dislike it to try something new.

Desert Sands:
My only gripe about this map is that it’s too easy to get into B-reset positions in the dunes so fast. The map would become much more diverse if it was a little faster into the town and a little slower into the dunes. The dunes provide amazing crossfire and angles to bleed out any town-holding tanks, and the town makes for some very interesting brawls. I just think there’s so much more potential for the map if there’s a bigger involvement of the B cap, as the A cap usually gives cap advantage over the C cap anyways, which means the team in dunes wins not only the cap advantage but also the map control, hence why we see most teams playing dunes. If it was faster into the B cap and/or slower to the A cap, any teams playing dunes would have to accommodate the possibility of a fast B cap should the dunes become steeper and the town become more downhill, for example. It could also get hard cover but is not necessary idk. Then again, maybe the current situation is how the B cap is destined to be played on Desert Sands, only useful against the teams that don’t bother to cover for early resets, or against teams that get cap advantage in town and try to hide there, as putting pressure on B would force them to poke out and get punished again.

Overall, I’d just like to say that I appreciate the great diversity of maps we have been given and while they may not all be perfect, I don’t see any huge issues with the current pool of maps like Yamato Harbor, Himmelsdorf or Canyon have had in the past. I’m excited to see more maps in the future too!

[civic wind]

im personally not a fan of maps which are split into 2 distinct halves I.e. desert sands, middleburg because I feel it’s annoying to have to fully commit to one side every game and the strategies are rather limited

[autumn quarry]

can you please pin this message? ^^

[rich plaza]

Hellas definitely isn't balanced depending on how you can cap the A+B

[onyx gull]

Ghost factory is so boring lol. Literally factory brawl and D cap battle simulator

[trim acorn]

"Hello, @worldly elm. While I respect the opinions of each person here, and everyone who voted on polls, Greater Server Population is heavily affecting the voting. While the opinions of other server players, are sometimes needed, this is not the case, which is why, I say, and believe that the best course of action is take 2 players from each top 4 from the previous season to incentive winning, and get input from the best of the best from all servers. From there, the players chosen can give input regarding map pool, and other issues that need to be addressed for us to have a great Season going forward." (This is my captain's opinion @silent lynx .)

[delicate jetty]

i think the disliked maps generally come down to the amount of plays or types of plays possible on it, the 3 bottom maps are disliked because theres very little variation of strategy possible, because as mentioned it just comes down to a A or C 7v7 or 6v6 brawl 99% of the time, case in point with Desert, Hellas, New Bay, BGV and Faust, Ghost Factory, the general map design encourages teams to simply stack on one side. Larger maps and/or shifting the cap positions appropriately could help change that a lot, such that making a play for B when you are down on points becomes possible, instead of the usual rush the enemy team and disrupt cap/kill all

overall though i think its quite a difficult problem to solve considering the nature of the game, your team being crucial to hold down areas and no util besides your gun and armour, (not like tactical shooters or mainstream competitive games) and coordinated teams being able to read plays off spotting info

[worldly solar]

By ur logic castilla should be among the bottom maps

[rich plaza]

Castilla is just awful in general.

[upbeat shoal]

What do you mean, you dont like not being able to play with heavies on C?

[lucid dust]

technically you can cap B on castilla however you may want to chill with that

[delicate jetty]

well castilla isnt very high up, but it does have a few options for B plays or more creative strats

[spiral pine]

I don’t think there’s a single map that allows for zero creativity. There’s always another approach I think. What I mean is like even if the dunes are a dominant position, perhaps you can approach it in a different way than usual 🤷‍♂️

[delicate jetty]

It’s not zero per se, just a lot less creativity that is possible on certain maps

[worldly elm]

**Hello, my dear players! **
We are ready to share with you some details about autumn tournament activities.

🪙 Coin tournaments 7v7, 3v3, 2v2 — October 7-28.
🗓️ Prove your skill qualifiers for EU — from October 25 (4 tournaments x 3 game days), for NA and ASIA — from October 29 (4 tournaments x 2 game days).
🏅 Middle and Lower Echelons tournaments — November 15-19 .
🏆 Professionals tournament — November 14-21 (2 RR rounds). The top 4 teams will advance to the Blitz Ultimate Cup tournament, where they will compete for $50 000.
💰 Blitz Ultimate Cup — end of November-early December (the tournaments on the servers will be held with a short breaks, so players and viewers will not have to wait long for the battles to continue!).

📌 Important!
Teams that register for the Professionals Tournament and the Challengers Tournament will be checked for the number of foreign players before the start of the matches. If we find violations, the team will be disqualified and the captain will receive additional punishment.

There will be no new customization this season, but we are doing our best so you can compete for the new camouflages and profile background next year.

With love, your Tolyan ❤️
<@&991691839981752390>

Stay tuned for more details next week.

[steep bear]

Can this be pinned please

[crude gate]

Gotcha

[worldly elm]

We plan to add clan logos for the top 3

[worldly solar]

i think she meant there will be no new customization rewards but she never said the old ones wont be rewarded

[vagrant sentinel]

oh god can't wait, thank you for info

[ivory zinc]

Thanks for the info!! Also very nice to hear that you will check for violations before the tournament starts. Thanks for this, now no more dramas after the tournament!🤝❤️

[worldly elm]

https://tenor.com/view/morning-tired-gif-23899342

[rich plaza]

There will definitely be dramas in the middle of the tournament

[lapis gate]

Do you think everything will be bad in the ru region?

[worldly elm]

I think everything will be OK there

[half obsidian]

that's nice to hear, but i still have a question. Considering the increasing number of teams, will you take in consideration to also change the number of "professional" and "challenger" tournaments spots? For example challenger tournament will have instead of top9-16 teams top10-20. Also because of WR abusing teams @worldly elm

asking again after ciappo and charles darwin

[worldly elm]

No, the limits will not increase this season.

[zinc narwhal]

perfect

[tawdry shore]

@worldly elm what do u mean by "4 tournaments x 3 game days"

Thx tolyan 👍

[worldly elm]

each tourney consists of 3 staged = 3 game days

[quick axle]

Is there restriction how many teams per clan?

[odd crater]

One issue I've tried to say multiple times is the density of the schedule, there's about 20 days from qualifier tournaments starting to echelon tournaments starting

I think there is prob gonna be a a few days between the last qualifier and the echelon tours

this would prob make it 3 days playing 1 day break, which for me personally is very high-intensity to combine with other things in my life and I'm sure there's others who might agree with me on that, I just feel it could be spread out a bit more so there's 2-3 free days between tours, so you could get some trainings or some rest days in

not to brush off the massive improvements to player-WG relations and discourse, but just to add to it as my personal opinion

[lapis sleet]

Tbh I’m surprised they’re doing a double rr because iirc, a lot of people said it was quite long and single rr was good. This is gonna be 8 straight days of games

[lapis gate]

@worldly elm как будут выдаваться призовые для легионеров? Думаю, ты знаешь, что Пейпал рип в Рашке, также картами? Или предложите какой-то аналогичный способ выплаты/или же предложите просто вывести через кого-то, как в случае с зимой.
sry for Russian, but it’s better to communicate between us, unfortunately she closed dm

[worldly elm]

Payments will only be made through PayPal. Please respect the server rules and write in English.

[tardy quartz]

@worldly elm let’s make team backgrounds for our in game profiles

[lapis spire]

^^^^

[worldly elm]

What about Tolyan background?

[deft swan]

Nice idea

[tawdry shore]

Would love to have your cat as my background "tolyan cat siuuuuu"

[worldly elm]

😂

[silent lynx]

+1

[rich plaza]

I agree

[foggy mantle]

Team camos?

[tardy quartz]

I mean business Mr/Mrs tolyan.

[half obsidian]

So for the incoming season there might be a chance to see more teams competing in each league?
It may be also a good idea to see more teams, also for a better "show"

[zealous pier]

never in hell should increasing the amount of teams in the tops be a thing to consider.
First of all if would make the matchmaking impossible to work since it would no longer be a power of 2 so one team at least would skip at least a match, can't be a thing in a high level tournament.
Secondly the RU Region has had that issue for years because they have tremendously more players than all regions combined and nothing has been done up to this day, so why would there something be done here in EU or any other region, it's pointless and unnecessary, it's working great as it is.
Finally the amount of team is as low as it is for the reason that being "pro" should remain something that matters in this game, increasing the amount of teams would mean increasing the amount of "pro" players, and therefore reduce the actual value of the "pro" title actual pro players worked hard to get for months and years even.

[half obsidian]

Not doubting about pros being pros and spending a lot of time on the game to be pros. But what about top 12-16 teams? The ones that are here (players) since a while and see their chances to actually get some prizes expire? They don't work hard enough?

I agree about pro stuff exclusivity etc, but maybe for challenger tournament the things could be more "the same" as "top 32", which means just more teams.
What do you think?

[fierce aspen]

It won’t be easy for top16-32 but also who aim top4 and want to win the tournament and we don’t see these guys crying for that here.

[lucid dust]

the whole point of having a top 4 top 8 etc is for competition. there’s always going to be a ton of competition to get into last spots of top 8 but this means absolutely nothing to top 4 teams, where there is a massive skill gap and you would expect most of the rewards to be here because that’s the top level gameplay.

if these “top 16” players have been playing for a long time then wouldn’t they improve enough to move up to top 8 teams? instead of asking for more placing spots in pros, just be clear that you’re asking for better rewards. I’m sure a lot of us here don’t really mind more in game rewards and tolyan has been nice enough to listen to the community about our input.

[rich plaza]

Tolyan’s been a blessing here fr

[sour ivy]

tolyan cat 😼 on top😻

[slate berry]

The cash prize of $50 000 is in USD correct?

[rich plaza]

ye

[lapis spire]

Tolyan is goated

[vagrant sentinel]

💀

[half obsidian]

@fierce aspen I'm definitely not crying 😂
And also I've not been the one who first said that: I just put again this. I was wrong about top8 level +, alright, maybe about lower too, that's why I used "might" in my question above, I'm not here to change the whole comp scenario 👍🏻

@lucid dust indeed, for real, but I don't want new rewards. Never asked anyone for a change, I just asked my question above and I got an answer, I don't want any problem, but as I said above I haven't been the first one to ask this.

After this I think it's fair enough that a chance is impossible so I won't continue that, in the case we'll see in the future 😁

[rugged root]

To build on point previously made. No, adding more spots at the top lvl isn’t feasible or a good idea. However I do understand that having better rewards at lower echelons might be needed.

The rewards down there are pretty pathetic imho. I understand that it isn’t the top level but it doesn’t mean that it should be rewarded at least decently, after all it is still a decent amount of time commuted to compete. I believe more rewards down the lower end might increase the interest overall by a non negligible amount.

[dry jacinth]

more players = more competition = better tournament for both viewers and players 🙂 top32 can finally be real one and not participation only and top16/top8 will be harder and more interesting

[viscid wedge]

This, tbh. There's only 8 teams that get prizes somewhat worth their time, and only 3-4 that actually get money, generally. After top 8, the prizes drop, a lot. This means that a team that isn't super super pro, but just good has no chance of winning something that's worth all the time needed to train, coordinate, battle, etc. Of course there's teams that do it 'just for fun', but at the end of the day, everyone wants to win

I don't think expanding the amount of teams is a good idea - it'd make the format harder and more time consuming, too

[rich plaza]

Increase the credit, free xp rewards? All the championship tourney’s don’t really offer that much more ingame currency than a normal season coins

[viscid wedge]

@worldly elm Just asking for clarification on this: "(the tournaments on the servers will be held with a short breaks, so players and viewers will not have to wait long for the battles to continue!)." Does this mean there'll no longer be like half an hour to 40 minutes between matchups? Will it be somewhat like summer season, where the matches follow each other as soon as the teams meeting are done with the previous matches?

[viscid wedge]

• gold, imo, and maybe different level camo's, like they do in ratings. Make it something that's actually special enough that people don't feel robbed if they don't reach top 8 😅

[tacit root]

Why should they, getting rewards is more motivating to keep playing

[worldly elm]

It's more about a smaller days breaks (between tournaments of each server)

[viscid wedge]

ahh oki, so not on the matchdays themselves

[half obsidian]

Just give cyber camo to top 16 😎

[lucid dust]

they already do 🤨

[silk marlin]

That's a good theoretical idea, the problem is that at this point for some players might be frustrating and they will just quit cause they know they won't manage to do as great as other teams

[ivory island]

ok let them quit

[rich plaza]

Guess they aren’t suited for comp anymore

[half obsidian]

I mean for the whole top16. What do you think

Ok fair enough it's not really welcome I guess

[ivory island]

homie wants participation awards

Yes lets give everyone in top 16 camos aswel, degrading the value of it even more, might aswel sell them in containers for 300 shards

[rich plaza]

itching for the dorito camo

[tacit root]

they can create a camo next time idk, why shouldnt top16/32 players get smth special

[tacit root]

eh maybe top16 is the bare minimun on na but on eu thats not the case

[half obsidian]

Yeah and also with increasing number of teams. There is a good amount of teams capable of this goal in EU rn.

-This is not keeping in consideration the fact you should give free rewards, same reason as pro gamer prizes, which at the end has to be an exclusive item 👍🏻

[silk marlin]

I smell arrogance cause u got a pro ava on NA which is way easier and now u think ur better than every one else. I wasn't talking for me mate, I already accomplished what I wanted and now I play for fun, I'm talking for some friends who already quit the CW scene

@ivory island as already @tacit root said. I'm not saying to give top 8 reward to Top 16/ 32 players,but maybe give them something they can appreciate too

[ivory island]

maybe 500 shards will satisfy them

[tacit root]

ofc it does matter lmao, finishing 16th out of 100 teams is better than 16th out of 35 teams 💀

[upbeat shoal]

On some servers you get top16 for just showing up man..

[tacit root]

U still got my point, there are way more than 16 teams fighting for top16 here

[sudden canyon]

On asia only

[flint abyss]

extending qualifying term won’t make it competitive, it will just make whole team exhausted(I cant remember which season it was but with 4weeks of qualifying, I felt like I was doing some kinda labor)

What about increasing prize pool
So that more teams are gonna be motivated to do better

[ivory island]

now we are talking 🤝

[ember fractal]

50% top 8 players so yes

[silent lynx]

👨

[onyx gull]

If ru top 8 hasn’t changed then eu def shouldn’t lmao

[kindred herald]

this convo is better suited for #tourneys-discussion. this channel is intended for important questions and discussion with Tolyan primarily. if you want to discuss rewards that have not been fully revealed, this isn’t the channel for this

[upbeat shoal]

@worldly elm sorry for this ping in particular cause i know its not your job but the thing is kinda connected
Since the merge with cis region the servers are heavily overloaded and there are major connectivity issues, please tell me wg know it and are working on fix before this major season

[lapis gate]

I hope yes o.0
This cis players… omaigat

[ivory zinc]

@worldly elm hello! One quick question. Player playing in Crimea counts as EU/Ukraine? Or it would count as a foreign player so maximum 2 per team?

[lapis gate]

Ru

[rose wraith]

Crimea is Ukraine
so it should count as a EU server

[fierce aspen]

It was unfortunately

[lapis gate]

Idc what is that, I just told that wg identify like ru

[ember fractal]

Just listen…

[rugged root]

Maybe it has changed like ua did.

[kindred herald]

we should wait for WG to say something

maybe Tolyan is double checking

[ivory zinc]

🙏

[zealous pier]

is anyone else experiencing high ping + high loss on EU since a few weeks?

[sly nest]

250 ping steady

[ember fractal]

I am bro like 700 ping and 20% loss max was running 10-70 ping before the Russians

[prime flume]

Just a note here for Tomorrow, Starting around 12:00 EST time I will be removing the tournament role from players with mismatched information.

"What specifically?" You may ask, Good Question.

-Anyone who's Nickname doesn't match the provided IGN

If you had a Name Change please contact a moderator in game to update it. If the role is removed and you would like it back then simply resubmit through the process you obtained the role in the first place.

[worldly elm]

Autumn season video https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/481780881543921664/1027566480243556393

Regulations u can find in this article
https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/news/tournaments/autumn-season-2022/
https://na.wotblitz.com/en/news/tournaments/autumn-season-2022/
https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/news/tournaments/autumn-season-2022/

[quick axle]

Will all 3 days of PYS be seeded by wr?

[worldly elm]

Yes, that's the only way for now

[rugged root]

Really nice improvements for top16 rewards. Appreciated.

[carmine walrus]

Do we know the order when are each of the servers having their blitz ultimate cup? And if it will be on the weekends or on the normal week days?

[mint mason]

Very cool thank you Tolyan! I’m guessing the same system of wr seeding will be used?

[deft swan]

@worldly elm will be bo3 or bo5?

[ivory zinc]

really sad to see the rewards for top 8-1 didnt get better… same camos same background… I expected better ngl

[rugged root]

Tolyan already explained they will change next seasons.

[ivory zinc]

yeah i guess i can wait a couple more seasons, i have been waiting for years man 😂😂

[rugged root]

Many people have gaseo, I believe you’ll survive the fact of coming out with yet another set of rewards. 🙂

[ivory zinc]

Yeah as i said i can wait lol

[worldly elm]

We will share this info later, some regions will be on the weekends, some on the weekdays

[worldly elm]

where?

[deft swan]

Pys

[worldly elm]

the system will be like in the spring games

[half obsidian]

Are there improvements? 🤣

[mossy mica]

Top 9-11> top 5-8 seeing rewards

[rugged root]

This tbh ^

[upbeat shoal]

Having the biggest tournament on weekdays is a horrible decision in my opinion
Also, nice to see better rewards but how can challenger rewards be better than the pro ones..

[worldly elm]

Tournaments is exactly the place of amazing gameplay moments (agree or leave the channel 😠 )

Something unexpected, bright, unforgettable and changing.
Let's save the moment!

If you have a cool tourney gameplay moment:
✅ share replay in #1027918083433713776
✅ describe the moment briefly
✅ mention the timing of the moment
✅ post the in-game names and server of your team

The best moments will grant 500 gold 🪙 to each team member.
I will pick replays during the whole autumn season ❤️

if u have any questions, ask me in #tourneys-discussion

[lapis gate]

How many times can I get gold?

[worldly elm]

No limits

[neat elbow]

Limited to tier 10?

[worldly elm]

No tier limits

[neat elbow]

🎉

[quick axle]

@worldly elm do Autumn season rules for PYS allow playing PYS with full legionnare teams and switch them to 2 legionnare team for top8/16?

[worldly elm]

Most likely we will check how many qualifiers registered players have played

[quick axle]

But that is pointless check, you just put acco in a trash team to get 3 pys. So if I understand correctly the check of legionnares is done only for top16/8 roster.

[worldly elm]

Yes

[worldly elm]

October calendar

[crude blade]

[vapid idol]

The problem at the moment is that too many teams want to play the same tournament.
How will it look in the PYS? Do all teams have to register immediately after the start of registration in order to be able to participate? Will the number of participants increase or will there be two pys at the same time?🤔

[worldly elm]

The limits will not increase (the qualifiers for the CIS have always worked according to the same scheme, where there are a lot of players). Therefore, I recommend tracking the registration and quickly registering the team.

[kindred herald]

@frozen mesa

[spiral pine]

Will these maps come back later? Perhaps there could be a vote every season. While the dissent is large there are still a significant amount of teams who like Ghost Factory and Hellas.

Edit: Thank you!

[worldly elm]

I'll think about it

[tepid flame]

Pls wg can u put more spots for show your skills tourneys, bcs if theres only 256 spots, it will go full very fast now

[crude blade]

Show your skill to register the team faster than others

[upbeat shoal]

The competition should happen in the battles and not in the garage 🤣

[kindred herald]

😩

[worldly elm]

Regulations u can find in this article
https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/news/tournaments/autumn-season-2022/
https://na.wotblitz.com/en/news/tournaments/autumn-season-2022/
https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/news/tournaments/autumn-season-2022/

Don’t forget to check pinned messages

❤️

[rich plaza]

Is there a reason why we aren’t using the old PYS format, with day 1 and day 2 each enabling the top 2 teams proceed to the next day, from a DE bracket.
And day 3 being a single elim?

Like i don’t get the merit of going from a 3 day system to a 2 day system when the primary issue of the PYS’s was how Day 2 and Day 3 seedings weren’t based off performance from the previous day

[worldly elm]

Since the regions of America and Asia are small, we wanted to optimize the qualifiers (we also cut the number of registration places) in order to try to attract a little more people (fewer match days, etc.). In any case, it's not yet possible to solve the issue with the seeding system.

[foggy mantle]

Has info been dropped about the seeding for the qualifiers?

[silent lynx]

Still the same thing I’m p sure

[rich plaza]

Nothing changed with seeding. But I still don’t understand why we don’t use the Money Blaster system for the 2nd and 3rd days of qualifiers. As far as ik, it was placement based off the previous stage

[tepid flame]

I have said this many years and i will say this in future.
You can trick that system by doing rerolls <make team with 80% accounts get easier teams in 2 first days<get lot of cups, system dont work as it should.
.
.
I mean it should be fair atleast. There shouldnt be this kind of hole that someone can use to get easier way. I dont know how.

[worldly elm]

Now we have no an opportunity to use another seeding for a stages with a big amount of teams

[worldly elm]

Let’s dream: what the seeding system should look like based on the previous stage?

[fierce aspen]

Gl bro cuz it won’t help u

[worldly elm]

If you can come up with a specific working solution, at least I can come up with a specific proposal to the development and beg them on my knees (maybe they will take pity) (in the future)

[tepid flame]

But now i have seen progress atleast now i get some kind of answer.

But about that its not gonna be easiest job, i think is there any change to block rerolls from major tourney🤔

[worldly elm]

Actually hard to imagine. What acc will we consider as a reroll? How we can prove it?

[tepid flame]

Ik thats pretty hard.
Other solutation would be that if you have this great 10 player team with rerolls, if it dont have atleast 100k battles combined it shouldnt be seem by seeding "strongest" just based on wr.

These numbers are just example

[fierce aspen]

Even with new system some guys will still counter that.

[merry herald]

This won't work because on the 10 players, only 1 can have 99k battles and other can have 1k combined. Further more, one account can count for "battles stats" without having a high wr, because only 7 bests wr accounts count. So the 3 others will count for battles. Like 2-3 accounts having under 50% but over 30k battles, and 7-8 having the wr stats

[tepid flame]

Numbers were just example i mean accounts what got high wr but not that many games shouldnt be same weight in seeding, than real accounts

[merry herald]

That's already the case. The thing is 1k battles aren't that high. They should improve it to 7k

[quick axle]

@worldly elm hope you dont get back to Money blaster system with only 1 team going from stage 2 to stage 3. And IMO its ok with WR seeding day 1 and 2 in PYS, but seeding in day 3 should be based on performance (won battles) not on WR. The system favorises high wr teams, which might get a bye and free cups in day 3 even if they have been performing ultrabad to get to day 3.

[worldly elm]

How exactly should the seeding take place on the third day?

[quick axle]

I suggest you have a talk with Wildoneshelper about the seeding for day 3. Something like won/lost battles or opponents during day 1 and 2.

[worldly elm]

≈November calendar

[crude blade]

Blitz ultimate cup where 👀

[kindred herald]

expect that in first week of December

or second idk lol

but WG did mention a while ago stuff was to be delayed a little bit compared to last year

[crude blade]

I see thanks for the info I remember in season announce they mentioned that it will be at the end of November or at the start of December so it looks like the 2nd option 👀

[vagrant sentinel]

hi, why Asia's pys score difference is so big? The first pys max score is about 4000 points, but the last 4th pys score is a whopping 15,000 points. (Condition that only 1st place in the group)@worldly elm

[worldly elm]

In order to avoid duplication of the number of cups for a small numbers of teams on small regions. And additional reward for those teams that will participate in all four qualifiers from start to finish

[worldly elm]

Did you think I would add all the dates to the calendar at once? Gotta keep the mystery

[rose wraith]

Hello. the authorities of my country (Ukraine) notified the population that they will turn off the lights every day to save energy, this will happen throughout the territory, and now I became interested, all Ukrainians who wanted to play in the fall season of 2022 will not be able to play. what should we do in this case?

[worldly elm]

Hello. Not really sure how we can help. What are you expecting?

[rose wraith]

just wanted to see the answer, I understand that asking to postpone the tournament is a bad idea... it's a pity that so many Ukrainians will not be able to play in the autumn season 😦

[worldly elm]

Unfortunately, we do not have any possibility to reschedule the tournaments, because the schedule is very tight

[fierce aspen]

Lol

[safe rivet]

If only the energy is shut off and not the 4G networks could you not use your data? Of course charge your device to full before the power goes off and/or use a powerbank.

[foggy mantle]

[spiral shard]

What was the map pool for autumn and which maps got removed?

[crude blade]

-hellas -ghost factory other maps stays same I guess

[willow knoll]

@worldly elm is there any chance the NA regulations website can be updated with the proper dates for our PYS tournaments? i noticed you posted a message with 3 regulations links for each server, yet they all have the same dates for the PYS tournaments. your calendar states that our PYS tournaments are on different dates than the ones on the regulations website, so can we have an updated link with this information?

[sage finch]

Hi guys, now I may get told off for this but hey ho. Anyway I, along with Wildoneshelper, are trying to pull together a Tour Discussion stream, to take place on 24.10 the day before the tour. We are reaching to those top clans taking part in the tour to join us on the stream for a Q&A session and stuff like that, basically to bring some exposure to the tour side whilst also giving some of the player base the opportunity to interact with some of the best players in the game. I would be particularly interested to hear from any clan that has recently migrated to EU, what with rolling out on an unfamiliar server in a top tour will certainly be interesting.

If you are interested, please drop me a DM. Also any clan from NA/APAC is also more than welcome to take part, this is not just restricted to EU server.

[upbeat shoal]

Nice

[ivory zinc]

looks interesting

[rich plaza]

Oh yeah EU starts on the 25th right

[worldly elm]

Press cat if u registered the team

[sour ivy]

@worldly elm any thoughts on adding a betting system in-game for tournament results? ie betting on a team for top 1 during blitz cup and having the ability to put gold/creds on the line. could also be an event in the garage with other rewards

[twin barn]

We’ve been doing it on asia server since like a year ago lol
Very fun and no money involved

[silent lynx]

@worldly elm what are the rules regarding “mercenaries” from other servers during this season? The same as the New Way to Play, or like last Fall Season?

[rose wraith]

read the regulations, everything is written there

[worldly elm]

nice idea, maybe we can add it one day

[worldly elm]

how? share with us

[worldly elm]

2 legionnaires for top 8, top 16 and Blitz Ultimate Cup

[silent lynx]

🤝

[twin barn]

I have sent you our regulations/infos in dm

[worldly elm]

Good luck to all the teams in the autumn season

[rich plaza]

I wish for all teams to have an unpleasant experience

[cerulean blaze]

Is it really a good idea to, next to gambling with crates, stimulate kids to start betting on games?

[cinder temple]

Thats gonna be fun plz do this i want 2 start betting

[dry jacinth]

betting ? just go to casino if you want to do that 🙂 maybe just add avatar for 4 teams going to blitz cup so people can show their bet/support (we had that few years ago - 2018 or 2019 i think)

[sour ivy]

@cerulean blaze obv with limits imposed. Seems like an area with too many benefits to ignore; generates interest in tourneys, rewards knowledgeable players, adds another means to gain resources without dumping $$$...

[ivory zinc]

cat

[quick axle]

Is Blitz assistant tournament section totally out or will it be fixed?

[zinc narwhal]

Blitz assistant is actually dead in total

[upbeat shoal]

blitz assistant died X years ago lol

[sage finch]

wow, 107 Groups on EU 🙂 Entertaining opening PYS - GL for all the teams for the next stages ❤️

[upbeat shoal]

i feel sorry for you honestly, 1st days shouldnt be streamed its just eh.. boring
Props to you for trying your best anyways

[sage finch]

Its always good to also get back into the action and with YT booting me during your 2nd games it was much needed experience to make sure I can get the stream back without pulling out too much hair 🤣

[upbeat shoal]

I thought you ended it 😄

[cerulean blaze]

These days seems like 2nd days arent worth watching either

[upbeat shoal]

true

[quick axle]

The tournament section in Assistant has worked fine until now, and there is still a link in the tournament chart page to "See more on..". It was a good tool tbh.

[sour ivy]

depends on server and level of competition. and still theres always chance of upsets

[quartz meteor]

I think Wargaming has since fixed the website for showing brackets so now I'm relying on the portal to fetch me bracket information.

[winged cedar]

Yes, WG has fixed the website for showing brackets ... though it would have been very informative if the maps to be played per upcoming bracket would be shown as well (Blitz Assistant used to show map info).

[astral fulcrum]

Gimme that cat, I like chonky cats tho 👀

[worldly elm]

she's very fat, will be hard to transport her

[quick axle]

@worldly elm link to Manu stream wrong

[worldly elm]

thanks, corrected

[upbeat shoal]

👀 can i be your cat?

[astral fulcrum]

Yes kitten

[rich plaza]

Naw

[worldly elm]

Hello!

Due to the numerous violations of the qualifiers tourney rules (points 4, 5 and 7, account sharing+) by team [-1-] S63 AMG (EU server, PYS #1), we withdraw the cups earned by the team.
Accounts of players involved in violations are banned.
If this is the first violation for players, they can appeal the decision through the support center.
The remaining players of the team are not allowed to participate in subsequent matches of the Autumn season.

Thanks for understanding!

[zinc narwhal]

😂

[fierce notch]

rip to the people who paid for their spot

[zealous pier]

F in the chat

[pastel mango]

facts

[crude blade]

[ivory island]

😂

[rose wraith]

thank you for the fairness

[thick adder]

Thank you Wg and especially Tolyan since they take necessary measures to let teams compete each other fairly

[solid pine]

Rip bozos

[ember fractal]

Skill issue?

[latent tree]

"WiTh NeW AiM SyStEM aLL TeAmS GoOD"

[hazy path]

Last time I told him lieut this’ll happen was… this morning? He said we’ll see. Well, here we see lmao

[merry herald]

Oh no, I wanted to make top8 in [-1-] team. Maybe there are still spots available in TRNMT for top8?

[vagrant sentinel]

👀

[thick adder]

100 Euro per person

[merry herald]

Only?

[fierce aspen]

🌻Vamos🌻

[civic tinsel]

how do you like the idea to update the information on the site ?

[prime flume]

They only bought the one way ticket, cheapskates

You have the buy the round trip

[remote sky]

😂

[cerulean blaze]

Hey @worldly elm
Why do we have to wait 50min now till the grand finals for day 2? This is way too long..

[stuck hazel]

Possibly to avoid issues with the time change

[deft swan]

True

[viscid wedge]

wintertime-change and game did not compute. To avoid issues, wg went for set times today. Tomorrow will be set times too (as is normal for day 3), but next qualifiers things will be 'normal' again =)

[stuck hazel]

For day 3 it's fine even if you play the 3rd place match at the same time as the finals

[ivory zinc]

please decrease the amount of waiting… whenever both teams finishes put them to play, waiting 40 minutes when battles ended 30mins ago is waste of time…

[civic wind]

day 3 is good, but days 1 and 2 are unnecessary

[hazy path]

@worldly elm hey, I would like to ask when the tickets are distributed ahead of the top 32 championship (so that a player that would like to join can do so on time and not join in too late, and yes said player meets the limit of at least 3 out of 4 PyS tournaments played

[merry herald]

I think it’s is 3 days after the end of pys4

[worldly elm]

Hello. Most likely tickets will be credited on November 9 (in the morning).

[worldly elm]

Hello! We found a violation of the rules for participation in the qualifiers by the player **Niskfrmdao **(NA, PYS #2).
He will be punished according to the rules of the game. In addition, he will not receive rewards for any of the Echelon tournaments if he is a member of any team.
If we encounter such behavior again, the whole team will be punished.

First paragraph:
https://na.wotblitz.com/en/content/qualifying-tournaments-participation/#/?

Thanks for understanding!

[vagrant sentinel]

Will the violation information be announced at the end of the single competition (pys), not the entire competition? @worldly elm

[rich plaza]

Might as well get the obvious mistakes out the way

[hasty veldt]

@worldly elm
Is there an idea to change the time of the tournaments
Reduce the time to an hour or two maybe

The time in Middle East is +1/2 hour compared to Europe and this time increases the length of the tournaments " waiting time and the time to reach the final until the end of the tournament "
It takes long time for those who have a work next morning 😅

[zinc narwhal]

dont

[sage finch]

where in the ME are you? My time difference in Dubai is 3 hours behind CET and 4 behind UK

[hasty veldt]

Jordan, -1 hour currently in Dubai /+4 hours in UK
and Yeah that's what i would to say

[sage finch]

Yes you are 1 hour behind me

[hasty veldt]

I hope tolyan do something to change the time " i know it's not ez to change hole schedule"

[sage finch]

The majority sit the same time zone so highly doubtful tbh

[worldly elm]

Hello!

Due to the numerous violations of the qualifiers tourney rules (account sharing+) by team [QU1CK] HAHA (EU server, PYS #3), we withdraw the cups earned by the team.
Accounts of players involved in violations are banned.
If this is the first violation for players, they can appeal the decision through the support center.
The remaining players of the team are not allowed to participate in subsequent matches of the Autumn season.

Due to repeated violations, we are introducing the following qualifier rule: if a player participates in the tournament, who is prohibited from participating in it, the cups will be lost by the entire clan for all the past qualifiers.

Thanks for understanding!

[ivory zinc]

tolyan thanks for searching after every PYS if someone broke the rules. We have been asking for this for years. Thanks ❤️

[naive crystal]

tolyan fan club

[latent tree]

Hello tolyan, For PYS #3, will only the "[QU1CK] HAHA" team's trophies be deleted or will the QU1CK clan's PYS #3 trophies be deleted from all teams?

[fierce aspen]

Wg should remove QU1CK clan cups because, the clan is responsible of this team

[civic tinsel]

please show where it is written that we are obliged to be responsible for each player in the clan

Especially when absolutely all the enrolled cups are collected in an honest way.

[ivory island]

🦽

[rose wraith]

are you sure you want to start this conversation?) don't put yourself in a dead end and just say nothing, because who knows what else people might find out))

[calm axle]

♿

[latent tree]

In my opinion, players or clans who commit violations 2-3 times in the tournament should be permanently banned from the tournaments. The violating player should be banned from tournaments with IP or etc..., not as an account, otherwise they will continue to play with other accounts and prevent European teams. @worldly elm

[fierce aspen]

It’s maybe not in the rule because wargaming can’t know there are some crazy players doing that they even didnt imagine. It’s not because a team is doing their job, the others dont need to respect the rule that the clan is clean.
We arent talking about 1-2 players but a team. In future we will see 2 teams. 1st team trying to win cups fairly and the second team trying to win rivals by share accounts and blablabla. Don’t do the innocent. U all know so u all are guilty.

[foggy mantle]

Devices rather than IPs imo. It's no big deal to counter an IP ban

[civic tinsel]

Cool position namely the words "U all know so u all are guilty". I understand that you are 100% sure that we are so bad and persuaded the "Haha" team. Ok, provide proof.

[fierce notch]

if a clan sends a team into the tournament which has that many players that get banned the clan shouldnt get any cups. A team is the representation of the clan so the clan has the responsibility

[fierce aspen]

Nah but bro how they can know that some randoms from the clan are creating teams and disrespecting the rules.

[latent tree]

We don't even know how the 3rd team was created 🤣🤣🤣

[civic tinsel]

I will not waste my time developing this dialogue. I don’t see the point of explaining and chewing something for people who don’t perceive a point of view that differs from the one they came up with for themselves 😘

[sage finch]

In fairness there no rule penalising clans as such. However, there should be I think. Ok when 1 or 2 violate then yes penalise the player. If more than 40% of roster violates then yes the clan should take responsibility after all they roll out in the clans name, represent the clan & as such the clan must bear some responsibility. Not picking on any particular team, just expressing my thoughts

[thick adder]

Our team Trnmt has a scheduled match today vs that banned Quick team. Do we get still rewards and cups from tht tour?

[merry herald]

No. U will have to wait PYS5 to win cups

[civic tinsel]

you will most likely get a technical victory

[ivory zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wheelchair-gif-14030305

[vapid idol]

@worldly elm Hiiii
still in a battle... haha
Update: we just wanted to make it exciting for you 😂

[worldly elm]

where's 7th

[rich plaza]

Went to grab groceries

[half obsidian]

Pls be 6 tomorrow too

[worldly elm]

Hello! We found a violation of the rules for participation in the qualifiers by the player 234_75_88946421 (EU, PYS #3).
He will be punished according to the rules of the game. In addition, he will not receive rewards for any of the Echelon tournaments if he is a member of any team.
If we encounter such behavior again, the whole team will be punished.

First and fifth paragraphs:
https://wotblitz.com/en/content/qualifying-tournaments-participation/

[rose wraith]

👏

[ivory zinc]

[vivid crypt]

When will the date for the start of the blitz cup final be announced ?

[crude blade]

blitz ultimate cup

[obtuse warren]

Hm

[zealous pier]

Blitz Ultimate Cup

[worldly elm]

@zealous pier @crude blade my stars 🌠

[worldly elm]

next week

[rich plaza]

When do teams competing in round robin have to submit their avatars/logos? @worldly elm

[ivory zinc]

they will ask u to give it whenever they need it 👍

[worldly elm]

Ideally, when will the RR take place (this is for avatars), for the clan logo after Blitz Ultimate Cup

[rich plaza]

@worldly elm is it possible to delay the starting time of PYS#4 for NA by an hour, to match the previous tournament starting time of 9 PM EST?

This is to accommodate for the end of daylight savings (which occurred Nov 6th) and I know that most teams won’t be able to get online at 8 EST, which is the current starting time.

[rich plaza]

Considering how many cups can be gained/lost from the final NA PYS, I hope for a quick response

[zinc narwhal]

knew it will happen

[trim acorn]

It'd be ideal for them to delay it by an hour so it does go back to it's usual start time, but I really don't see it happening considering the past experiences like the 4th of July thing

[naive crystal]

yes this is an important change. tournaments have always occurred at 9pm eastern time

with the time changes in the US, 9pm eastern time is in 9 hours and 12 minutes from when this message was sent

[tardy quartz]

@worldly elm please make the tourney time to 9pm est I beg you kitty 😰

@N.Z.#1459 I didn’t realize it starts a whole hour earlier than normal wtf we have to get it back to 9pm est

[rich plaza]

• weren’t you all “no it’s fine” a few minutes ago 🤨🤨🤨

@tardy quartz fair lol

[merry herald]

No it is fine

[worldly elm]

I will check if I can postpone it

[mint mason]

🙌

[worldly elm]

Dear NA players, we have moved the matches forward by an hour for PYS #4. Have nice battles and show ur best skill

[ivory zinc]

tolyNA

[lucid dust]

Will this stay the same for the rest of the season like for the professional round robin?

[tardy quartz]

You’re my favorite kitten 🐱👌🏽🐶

[worldly elm]

Yes

[ivory zinc]

ban him

[rich plaza]

I love Tolyan

[rich plaza]

Best mommy fr

[unreal summit]

Let's keep this channel to important tournament information and discussion

[worldly elm]

okay

[worldly elm]

Hello! I draw your attention to the fact that the player Swissbot (EU) will not receive rewards for participating in the Echelon tournaments, Autumn Season 2022. Paragraph 4: https://wotblitz.com/content/qualifying-tournaments-participation/

[zealous pier]

there you go lol

[ivory island]

that was fast

[sage finch]

Harsh

[cinder temple]

respect for tolyan and for rl trying 2 make a change

[vivid kelp]

The punishment is justified i would say lol

[deft swan]

Lmao

[ivory zinc]

thanks totyan

[ivory zinc]

thanks tolyan x2 @fair cosmos 🥱

[thick adder]

@worldly elm Is there a 3 pys playing rule for the Top 32 championship? We have one slot free. Can one of our random clan member, who hasnt been in squad for any pys, play and get rewards?

[shell solstice]

3 pys rule is for top 8/16 only

[worldly elm]

Hello my favorite players! How are you? I hope you are fine 🌻

I want to share with you fresh updates about violations of the rules for participation in the qualifiers: https://wotblitz.com/content/qualifying-tournaments-participation/

1. These teams lose cups for PYS #4
   [PNSR-] -PUNISHER- (paragraphs 4 and 7),
   [FEN1X] FEN1XETTO (paragraphs 4),
   [EG-] Hey lol (paragraphs 4).

Accounts of players involved in violations are banned.
If this is the first violation for players, they can appeal the decision through the support center.
The remaining players of the team are not allowed to participate in subsequent matches of the Autumn season.

2. [U3BPA] Dirty Morty team loses cups for PYS #4 (paragraph 12).

[crude blade]

Impressive

[vapid idol]

Rest in Peace

[autumn quarry]

Hello tolyan, when will the changes be applied in the HoF?

[upbeat shoal]

Good job Tolyan 🌻

[viscid wedge]

Holy 😱

[sage finch]

Rapidly changing scenery 😱

[shell solstice]

Tolyan taking her job seriously, that's why we all love her ❤️

[calm axle]

😌

[civic tinsel]

omg 😱

[viscid wedge]

😂😂

[viscid wedge]

For sure ❤️

[zinc narwhal]

But but but eg is Innocent right 😕

[viscid wedge]

Apparently not

But I'll freely admit that I'm shocked by the news

[hasty veldt]

No simp from tolyan 🔥🔥

[foggy mantle]

tolyan detects everything and applies it instantly congratulations tolyan

[rich plaza]

Finally, a new EU champion

[ivory zinc]

new Blitz Cup EU champion*

[rugged root]

Blitz ultimate Cup*

[ivory island]

Tolyan is my champion

[shut quail]

As clan commander [JOKES] would like to thank our beautiful Tolyan and other WG staff for responding to our violation report, we are very pleased that WG has handled it in such a professional manner. I think that the preservation of these 3 clans [FEN1X] [PNSR-] and in particular [EG-] will remain in our memory.

[cerulean blaze]

@worldly elm I sent an important message in your dm, if you would be kind enough to read it thanks in advance.

[merry herald]

What about BTD- team? In the PYS2 d3?

[hazy path]

@worldly elm I saw somewhere that the max. 2 non European players rule is supposed to apply in the top 32 again? Did it actually change or is that info false? (And if it actually changed, what’ll happen with the fully non EU teams?)

[sage finch]

Coming to an APAC server near you soon 🤗

[vagrant sentinel]

👀

[worldly elm]

2 leggs for top 8 and top 16

[rose wraith]

hi @worldly elm , there is an error when trying to make a deposit in the form of a ticket to participate in the tournament

[worldly elm]

hi, will check

[flint abyss]

@worldly elm hi, one of my team member, Aropaff, didnt get a championship ticket to register pro tourney (apac server)

[worldly elm]

he has ticket

[flint abyss]

@worldly elm Oh yep he says he got the ticket after fully restart the application

[spiral pine]

@worldly elm there is an issue on NA with contributing tickets for the middle echelon. My team -NOX- received tickets but it will not allow us to contribute them to the team. I do not see any other teams who have been able to contribute tickets either.

[silent lynx]

Everyone has this issue, toylan said they are working to fix it I think

[rich plaza]

^^

[spiral pine]

I meant “my team” not as in the team belongs to me but rather that I belong to the team. (It is okay because lemmy is engaged and pregnant.)

[lucid dust]

@worldly elm what are the dates and order that each server will be going for Blitz Ultimate Cup? (if you are allowed to post about them)

[worldly elm]

November 26 - December 3 (dates will be published on Monday, and some additional details)

[willow knoll]

any updates on this? we currently have 17 hours or so left for registration, but we are still unable to contribute tickets for our teams in game.

[rose wraith]

++++

[worldly elm]

As soon as possible. Most likely we will increase the registration time at least until the evening
If the problem with tickets continues, we will find another way to check you in, don't worry

[crude blade]

dwbh

[worldly elm]

🍁 We have found a problem with tickets, its fix will appear in the game client gradually for each region. We will extend the registration for 12 hours, thank you for your understanding!

When to expect a fix
for ASIA after 00:30 UTC
for EU after 5:30 UTC
for NA after 11:30 UTC

[crude blade]

thanks for solving the problem 🔥

[pulsar aurora]

👀

[rose wraith]

ticket issue resolved

[worldly elm]

I think we will add 12 hours for registration (all regions).

[zealous pier]

Will the dates for the tournament remain the same?? (14, 15, 17, 18 and so on)

[worldly elm]

Yes

[zealous pier]

Perfect 👌

[hollow remnant]

Thanks

[crude blade]

good decision

[ivory zinc]

@worldly elm when will we know which maps we play vs which team??? when do u announce the top 8schedule thats what i mean

[worldly elm]

The matches will appear tomorrow around 8-9 am UTS

[lost haven]

thank you for clarification. 🫡

[ivory zinc]

thanks tolyan

[ivory zinc]

sorry its again me but is top 8 double round robin? @worldly elm

[worldly elm]

#important-about-tourneys message

[worldly elm]

Hello! We found a violation of the rules for participation in the qualifiers by the player Mahmud_25iq_Kaban4uk (EU, PYS).
The player's account is banned. If this is the first violation for players, they can appeal the decision through the support center.
The team [IKPA] Kobni will lose 25% of the prize pool in the upcoming Tournament of the Top Echelon.
If you would like to dispute a decision, you should create a ticket in the Support Center.

Paragraph 7:
https://wotblitz.com/en/content/qualifying-tournaments-participation/

Thanks for understanding!

[zinc narwhal]

💀

[zealous pier]

Rip bozo

[pulsar aurora]

💀

[foggy mantle]

Ahahah

[tardy quartz]

@worldly elm hi kitty does the blitzcup info get announced today?

[upbeat shoal]

@worldly elm hello, there is no info about top4 avatars in the news, top4 will get those as well, right?

[worldly elm]

yes

[ivory zinc]

@worldly elm hello, only games for days 14th, 15th and 17th have been announced. When will we know the other 3 days matches?

[worldly elm]

today

[worldly elm]

Hello my dear players!

The main info about Blitz Ultimate Cup, that will be useful to you.

Dates
✨ NA November 26-27, 7 pm PT / 10 pm ET
✨ ASIA November 29-30, 19:00 UTC+8
✨ EU December 2-3, 19:00 CET

Structure
First game day: 1st upper bracket and lower bracket rounds, upper bracket final.
Second game day: lower bracket final, grand final.

Top 4 teams must **send me team avatars no later than 8:00 UTC, November 22 **(take care of it in advance).
🎥 Team members will have to play with webcams.

The full regulations will be sent no later than Monday, November 21.

[rich plaza]

It is time to start drawing

[quartz meteor]

It's time to start jinxing the top 4 ranking

[zealous pier]

Everyone take cover

[ivory zinc]

😶‍🌫️

[crude blade]

[slate berry]

Nice

[rich plaza]

Please predict Purpl bottom top 8 🙏

[foggy mantle]

😵

[hasty veldt]

Can you pin 📌 this

[spiral pine]

I know it’s less of a priority but how soon will the draw and maps be known for the next round of middle echelon?

[rich plaza]

It’s prob out now

[worldly elm]

you can find this info in the regulation now
in the system it will appear soon

[deft swan]

in 4h if i'm not mistaken

[foggy mantle]

@worldly elm I had a question for you: Will cameras be required for players on Days 1 & 2 of the Blitz Cup or just on Day 2? Thank you 🙏 🐱

[worldly elm]

Only for the second day

[crude blade]