#tourneys-discussion
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Her boss knows he has to time it well with tier 10 rebalance (=Felice nerf)
@rugged robin
Thankyou
Some people I know have been saying that when teams get invited into the room 5 minutes before the match, the server of whichever team joins first gets prioritized, which can reduce lag or prevent connection issues.
Is that actually true? Does the game use a server location closer to the country of the team that joined first?
Ofc bcs it’s leader of OLENI, what do u want from guy who playing in this game 10+ years and making 2700 damage in noob battles
Never had any ping issues against Russian teams
Day 821 of asking for Twister Offlines to return
Your team is Top 32 EU? You do not like one of your teammates?
Kick them out and put me in.
You get following bonus: Fanolade Certificate of honour and appreciation.
tfpnjh throwing 😭 how can he be ufpnjh fan if he throws his 1b like that

big whamoon fan
same ngl

I want more one round against wheel
aww man i wanted to see more tfpnjh action

What maps on proving grounds btw
mines
Copperfield
lost temple
Lol what happened to CHRD 💀🤣
Proving grounds is just a random selection from the map pool 🙂
when NA brackets coming
why was it lagoon instead of Canal?
I hope my bracket suggestion is being cooked up rn!
what happened to chrd!
I thought they’re best on chinese server!
just gonna say, that a team had like 20 sec to cook up a strat on the spot because it was Lagoon instead of Canal
server lagging for others too? some of our guys and enemys cant play.
yeah
its unplayable for us
small indie company
good good
yeah simply lovely. having a disconnect on the pushing side is so nice to have!
yeah
#goodServers
#GoodServerConnection
which cluster?
UB Finals in C0 for me - I think C3 also @queen fox at this time at 20:45 ca.
C3
i have ping on c0 aswell, i assume its just both
Big respect for lags at tournament !
competitive lags
nono i got perfect how to get good ping
Disconnect ur wifi, connect it again and boom! 30 ping!
Or use exitlag idfk
just switch to c0
We had 30 ping, no loss and our tanks are doing wide circles
@queen fox Do something, there are lags in groups, tanks drive by themselves, how to play?
yes exactly. no control on our tanks (now everything is fine for us)
i updated in the main regulations, i will see why this didnt publish 🙁
Ok bois
we have lag
lets hold on
When did lag begin?
3rd game in semi lower bracket
Ok luckily we are only a few teams so we can manage it 🙂
I am going to turn off automation for next round. lets give it a few.
Greetings, on last round
OK EU. LISTEN UP
I am just waiting on reports from the server team
Dont reveal your strats now
if you are in game
<@&991691839981752390> , we might need to reroll a bit here
play out the round, just suicide the tanks in there
Battles are probably over, they started at 20:32 CEST
Yes but I need to make sure things are stable
WW
xDDDD
Anyone getting out of game atm?
😈
😭😭😭
Lags on 2 games on c3 cluster
We have ended with LUV, I think the result is fair, If they agree maybe we can keep our result
@gilded rain
@valid sleet
@oblique basin 😭😭
I will post in #important-about-tourneys
we agree
Everyone who is on C3 had problems
If the teams agree on the result, they can play the series out the same way. But I have to reset the round (round 2), and I am moving up the maps from the next stage. It will reflect in the client in a bit. This is going to take some minutes
4 group we don’t have the time
exl and qsx experiencing some lag
Training now someone?
Do not reset Unx group it was fair nobody was lagging and regardless we will rematch in grand finals
why just whyyy
xdddddd
Ye grand finals is decider who cares abt round 2
I think there is an error in Group 1. @queen fox
@queen fox Group 2 broke down
in what way?
@queen fox something wrong with the proving ground no match starting?
automations are off, try reading chat pls
yes we will activate them now
”dont reset my Test score, it was fair and regradless if its passing or failing grade”
We had the Grand Final and there was one set of maps!
But now it says Upper Bracket Final + the maps have changed.
Don't even joke lad, proving grounds: breakthrough is calling
Yes, if you read the announcement, I have moved up the maps
because all teams revealed their strats
sorrrrry itll be up soon
XD
While HOP should be in the grand finals right now, we fell to the upper tier of the finals @queen fox
🍿

can help if needed, DMs
why hop vs qsx ?
with 1-0 😭
HOP VS QSX MOVING TO TRAINING ROOM
@queen fox I’m online shoot me a dm
feel like all these tourney problems that have happened over the past week is a prime example of Murphy's Law: "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong"
what is happening???
*Whamen’s law
negative
Reset for exl and QSX set, there was definetly some Gameplay from both sides experiencing lag
ok pls memes aside
we are resetting lower bracket now
winner bracket all scheduled
proving grounds continuing as normal
HOP VS QSX is created
proving grounds group 2 breakthrough has no schedule
ill check in a sec
So for NA Proving grounds do we have to play part of day 1 again?
@queen fox Will there be a replay of group 2? should we lose 3:0 as quickly as possible???
HOP already beat qsx 3:1 final should be HOP vs EXL lag reset is player problem
its gonna be reset, no point of count that result
Thats why tolyan has room up
it is not a player problem, it was a server problem
What is the issue with group 2?
it was scheduled fine, and both teams joined
check dm
Should be final SELO vs LQVID but is again final lower bracker SELO vs PRFCT
i sent invites to caps to the room to HOP VS QSX, but no one came to the fan meeting 
they are stuck in the tournament room that's bug for as far as i understand
they are stuck in game atm, will be out soon
How could we join while playing the round
okay okay
which group? please just keep grounds in the chat with full context so its easier
Group two
Please reset the room—this is absolute unfairness! We won 3-1.
One thing i dont understand;
EXL played QSX on Fort, Port etc and it was streamed
now EXL is playing same maps against another team
HOP and QSX already out of games
HOP still stuck in room with EXL (grand finals) REASON: SERVER LAG AFFECTED ROUND 3-4 @worn marten
Just stop the schedule time and manually do rooms (The host’s connection of Training room affects both teams pings and it same goes to tournament rooms)
Surely this wouldnt happen for NA
we played with qsx and beat 3-1 why we need to play again, I am the leader of HOP
for the fun of the game!
I like this
what are you talking about
group 2 - Look what I wrote above
What is the current situation with group 2? Did players not get to join?
The schedule was reset and new maps allocated as announced
HOP already won idk why it’s a discussion they should continue to finals server lag affects both teams no? It’s not like QSX the only ones who lagged
Why is G1 replaying streamed matches?
Group number 2 also has a problem. There should have been a SELO vs. LQVID final, but it's back to the lower bracket final, which already happened.
We were supposed to be matched up in EXL right now, and these matches were broadcast live. Please open the training room and run the final match. @queen fox
We should play now vs EXL
grand final
Lqvid is currently playing with who
please stop spamming
seems that HOP VS QSX played normallz in the tourney room, so training room is not needed
no, we had to reset the match, as we had announced
no first round was false because QSX wasn't here because we played exl vs qsx
Once your games are done, please note. So I can manually schedule the next round
Group 4 needs a time to start
cant you just reset today and play d3 again tomorrow
@queen fox Are we going to repeat the second group?
astich, I am still not understanding why you are requesting the reset. We reset the match manually, what was the issue? the maps were adjusted as announced
It’s late perhaps
but they won in the end 
@queen foxgroup 4 lower bracket no time
thank you , will add now 🙂
same for us proving ground 2nd place there is no time thk u
pls look this stream @queen fox
Dumbest reason for reset ever btw
He knows our entire strategy; resetting everything almost as if to mock us is a disrespect to our hard work. @queen fox
i never thought eu would have so much problems
Im glad i see one of exl players also lagged out during QSX games (one of team had their turret faced opposite in fort games) (and one driving into building on portbay) while QSX also had similar lag from few players as well
, Rematch due to server lag it happened to everyone including other sets before finals
on sasuke!
@queen fox can you start the group 4 battles please
Group 3 UB finished. Rdy for LB
We beat hop vs qsx 1:3
@queen fox the nets broke and we missed the match
Just like we missed 1st game
So it was 1:1 and 3 fair games
Just please don’t repeat anything, going to bed🫡
we didnt even have the chance to play the 1st game, we were still in different tournament game.
1-1 on glitches equals out, fair.
@queen fox we play at 22:56? LUV vs L333T
I'm asking you—please watch this stream. You can ask the streamer as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLWqhPMtVMA @queen fox
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fixing now
it's so late and people have lives also, why keep us this late at night
@queen fox @opaque heart
We were in the Grand Final.
Now somehow we’re in the lower bracket??!
Why do we have to replay everything again????! We played on stream and won! What the hell is this? Maciejo has the stream/VOD!
we gud now?
ye
And latter one PRFCT won
@queen fox Why are we deliberately choosing to lose? Team LQVID won Team PRFCT 3:2 and we have to play against Team LQVID. We deliberately missed the fight because the opponents are not the same.
instead we play against PRFCT
can you please tag team captains of group 2
@native onyx
EXL did not get room invite to final vs HOP
@prime sapphire
Dont talk top 60🤣
@queen fox
Well it did reset, but the first game you were given for free because we couldnt play (we were in a game still) and the second game you guys lagged you and we basicly got a free game.
We beat you fairly, we won.
@queen fox
Are you insane? We were in the Grand Final — I attached a screenshot! Are you serious????
@queen fox @opaque heart
@queen fox
what was the score for hop vs quantum?
@crisp citrus
3 1 hop won (the official round you can watch at stream
I captain -SELO
We beat hop vs qsx 1:3
qsx won
because... round 2 lagged out
3:1 HOP won
So which one is true? 🤭
The integrity of this tournament is increasing every day
The one that was live streamed 3:1 - these decisions are just all wrong.
check my dm or watch stream from sneeko, we beat 3-1, QSX is spamming lies
Leader of WH0 isnt here on server
yo guys just win every game its not that hard dont blame whamen
Group 2 of the small league doesn't have a timer for grand final
Group 1, Group 2. Main League. Day is over. We continue tomorrow. I will be in contact with your captains - we fix this outside
Please tag team captains here
in the format
Group 1.
TEAM X - @queen fox
3-1 HOP won @queen fox @tall flare Please watch the broadcast the first match.
Is it possible not to play in the match?
@coral birch WE RESET THE MATCH FOR A REASON
if your comments arent helpful or spammy you will get timed out
Tag the team captain
I will make a group
we will continue playing there tomorrow
@worn marten Is hop's captain
@native onyx
Our Team Captian @supple quartz wants to play now grand finals, @queen fox
We have streams and replays.
QSX won 1:3
this is a screenshot of the reset
Group 2.
Team [WH0] Last Dance - m0nk3_teach
(Isn't on server)
i have started the proving grounds match 🙂
group 2 / PRFCT / @prime sapphire
group 2 / LQVID/ @native onyx
thanks guys ❤️
group 2 / -SELO/ @crisp citrus
Group 1 / HOP- / @worn marten
Group 2 / WH0 / M0NK3_TEACH
@queen fox I’ll get you connected with him since he’s not on the server
Group 4 / UNX / @fresh canopy
Group 1 / EXL / @vale helm
@queen fox Cancel the current match. pls EXL vs HOP
thx
the final blitz cup and eu already having connection problems
you can leave it
Thanks group 1 and 2, we will set our chats up, please accept my friend request
@queen fox
Will team -SELO continue playing tomorrow in the Grand Final? Or will everything restart from scratch?
Group 3 and 4 will play their grand final, group 1 and 2 we will communicate in groups
Will the actual final day be moved to Sunday since some of today’s matches will still be played tomorrow?
When NA brackets 👉 👈
real
Leave it to professionals
@queen fox start group 4 we can play this pleaseeeeeee
Group 1 / QSX / @clever kiln
I hope not, I assume they will agree on an earlier time than when the tournament is tomorrow
@queen fox will we play day4 full tomorrow?
let her brain process with team caps
Then answer comes
@queen fox can we please play the whole of day 4 tomorrow including these grand finals we don’t want to waste more time crying over pys there won’t be any problems in echelons I’m sure of it
please... keep messages helpful, server issues happen
we are not going to talk to the teams and ill have an update
Looking for Trawc1a4a4Ne6Cpy777 from SFYNA, if anyone has him please let me know
@gleaming mauve
best i can describe eu is Peace but also violence or never ending problems
Will the groups for Stage 4 appear before the Stage 3 grand final starts?
You wrote that the rematch would be tomorrow, but now the room was sent and we already played against team SELO, and now we have the grand final against team PRFCT. What should we do?
PRFCT where it doesn't deserve to be
give EXL top8 and finish the debate
@sturdy onyx @queen fox
OMGGGGG
Unofficial
@queen fox Trawa's dc tag
This was a replay match.
So...
I left the game for four months and it was already bad enough. I mean it was going downhill the whole time (i.e. issues got worse) but it never got this bad to the point the entirety of a PYS day got reset. At most it only got delayed an hour
What even is going on at WG atp for this kind of management blunders to happen 🥀🥀🥀
I don’t know who you supposedly beat there. Our first game against you was played, and you lost it 0–3!
It’s on Macieejo’s stream. Go check it and let’s watch.
clown moment, bro u cant push when we have 5 tanks afk
Well there was a official reset and after the reset we won? What else do you need? Nothing to prove by sending this message
@queen fox Everything was played fairly and on the broadcast, please take this into account and think about it further.
I have nothing to prove. All our games are broadcast live! The tournament manager can check everything herself!
Take top 8 from exl :3
any T32 spots free?
+1
What should she check she did that reset it was official
I dont get why you are trying the prove that the result were different before the reset, we won fair and square nothing the argue about.
Gg bro, you nice player
I provided evidence from the broadcast @carmine solar
Maciejo, Can you tell me how it all happened?
You captured all of this and saw it personally.
Evidence of what? It was clearly stated that there was a reset (which means that the matches dont count) so like what are you trying to prove?
stop hating bro, reforged will fix all issues and revive this game. if not u can leave like 50% of blitz playerbase did
Benny, stop it or I'm gonna touch you
huh
<@&481447501690568709> ^
😂 😂 😂 😂
Wow
holy
✅ skalmold69 was banned.
xdddddd
After the bracket reset, we were standing AFK. I don’t know what fair match you’re talking about.
Well we lost the first game because it started while we were still in a game, so its 1-1
must have been the wind
Because we are delaying it would that mean echelons start a day later too would prefer to just have a one day break and then go straight into it lowkey
Edit: disregard
@prime sapphire I believe in you, keep winning, dont listen to the haters
You deserved third place, guys, what a grand final))
@prime sapphire i don't believe in you, keep losing, listen to the haters
@prime sapphire hi
@prime sapphire bye
@queen fox If we take first place in the second group, will we get first place cups?
na brackets are out
Between all the chaos, group 1 will have their match as announced tomorrow, Group 2 will only play their Grand Finals
Robbery!
fake acc
@queen fox
Vineyards x5
i fix now ty!
@wispy prawn This goes for you as well
thx now its fixed
yeah group 2 getting fixed now
we got 5x Vineyards too
then play it 5x
@queen fox my group is missing ponda please fix
Noones doing that son 😭✌️🙏
why 3/4 top 8 teams left all in 1 group

I am dead. I am going to bed. @barren imp and @pale inlet can call me if things break. Pls NA, kick ass. May the best qualify
sleep well you deserve it
Shouldve been ponda for kitnm
unless you want to ruin ur mental peace staying up every night fixing stuff that’s not entirely ur fault for a ungrateful community .
go for it
✅ defnotquick_07540 was banned.
NA teams i will be monitoring disc for any issues, just ping
Yep
Shes online now, hopefully working on it
@queen fox UBF not showing a time (Group 2)
Cooooming and setting
😭
g1 works for me now @queen fox I see g2 does as well
Damn
I was having bad dreams anyway 😛 automation just saved me
all good and invited? @pale inlet @barren imp ?
all good
why are the proving breakthrough cups tier 5-6?
NA server
@queen fox ^^
she can fix tmw no emergency here
ggs NA
Guys, I think I was a little over confident, instead of ponda I shouldve been begging for kittnm
@queen fox please look at your private messages regarding the tournament.
Will there be tanks on sale?
you can gamble
I'll fix. It was late. Thanks for pointing out
edit: fixed
Do top8 this season get this avatar? Or will it be the new legacy one?
the pro player one is still being given, the legacy one is just the extra one 🙂
Wished the OG yellow Pro comeback one last time 🥀
Hey any T32 team spots available to get?
😎

isnt that the one given for top 4? @queen fox ^
i really feel like that didn't warrant a ping 
maybe u can ask the 14 teams above u to give u cups
Yeah I think u should just ban him
Day 822 of asking for Twister Offlines to return
u so like offlines,should come china

😂
@queen fox Hey Whamen! Is Normandy supposed to be in the Challenger's map pool?
saying that there was no communication is the biggest lie ive ever seen
That text is ai bruh he not even writing on his own. "This hurts the integrity of tournaments" lmao
...
"write me a complaint about why my brackets are too hard and why whamen is only putting in 16 hour shifts for a month straight"
Why don't we organise a civil one ourselves ❓
I’m not an office worker whose job is to write perfectly structured and polished statements — first of all.
Secondly, Discord has a character limit, so your complaint about AI isn’t really relevant 🤌
Lmao you said you speak for every tournament player, how dare you assuming you know what everybody thinks? Who are you? What qualifies you to speak for everybody with ai slop???
Y r there so many more bugs recently with tournament brackets
i'm just gonna say, no one's happy about the technical issues--most of all Whamen, because it just requires more work from her to sort them out. consider that this is the final tournament season on DAVA engine, with the whole backend being redone for Reforged very soon. would we rather not have the tournament season at all? if so, people could have chosen to just not play. it would have been easier for WG: no need to pay out money to players in prizes, no need to have Whamen working day and night while she could be working behind the scenes on the Reforged tournament system
its because the back end system is literally on its last legs, and will be thrown out in a few weeks so there's no incentive to "fix" it, just to correct mistakes that show up
bro u r on vacation and spend ur time reading this lmao
It never explicitly said “FROM ALL TOURNAMENT PARTICIPANTS.”
I don’t need to speak on behalf of every single participant — it’s enough to speak for those who share a similar opinion. Anyone else who reads it and feels the same way can simply reply or react in support.
But instead, you got hung up on the fact that I used AI so the message would actually be structured, clear, and not filled with pointless fluff.
no, we're hung up on you using AI because it means you can't even formulate your thoughts originally and have to rely on a machine to do it for you
I am bored its flaming hot (probably my fault) and on a bus rn, seeing someone prompting ai slop here lmao
i understand if you're not fluent in English, but if you want to make coherent arguments in a certain language, it helps to be able to write well with it
also, your AI slop is full of lies
Not a great reason to effect everyone who put effort into the current season but ok
that's arguably the more important part
Guys, seriously, just let it go. Dude got all worked up over me using AI and totally missed the actual point I was making.
I was just trying to point out a problem, but instead the mods/admins went straight into power trip mode and deleted the whole post.
this must be ragebait
i really didn't like it because there was a lot of exaggerations and untruths, but the main reason i deleted it was because you encouraged people to react and approve it, and that's just not constructive for clear communication between tournament players and Whamen. WG's not gonna put Whamen on leave if she makes a group Bo3 instead of Bo5 or something. no one is more aware than WG about exactly what's been going wrong with the tournaments. and Whamen has been the most dedicated and responsive tournament manager that we've ever seen, despite being very new to the job

and as for the server malfunctions and shutting down in the middle of the tournament, are we really thinking Whamen is just tripping on cables and causing the servers to screw up? like c'mon. let's be real for a second here
I literally wrote: “if you share this opinion, leave a reaction or reply with ‘support.’”
I wasn’t forcing anyone to do anything.
And honestly, the whole “Wargaming already knows its own problems better than players do” argument just doesn’t really make sense to me. If they already know everything perfectly, then why even bother with surveys, feedback forms, or stuff like Reforged tests? Who are those supposed to be for?
The playerbase is literally the target audience. People who spend thousands of hours playing the game are obviously going to notice issues, patterns, and bad changes way faster than someone who’s disconnected from the day-to-day experience of the community.
What you’re basically saying is that community opinion shouldn’t matter when it comes to company decisions or staff members making bad changes.
Nice one 👍🏿
you're trying to equate ideal game experience from a player's perspective with why there's been problems with tournaments? that doesn't make sense at all. it doesn't take a genius to observe that system malfunctions, games getting postponed, training rooms being used to play matches isn't intended or ideal. i'm saying that no one knows better than WG what the specific cause of all of these recent problems with the tournaments is exactly, because its their system and we're not employed to run the thing
What in the reforged are you guys arguing about 🥀
i've been casting these tournaments, its not like i'm shilling for WG here with no skin in the game. i'm getting nothing out of casting, i'm just doing it for fun. i was live during a match that shut down in the middle of the set and we had to coordinate on Discord to set up a training room. that wasn't fun, i had to extend my stream for it
i'm not here so i can just shut down dissent and power abuse the community. i have a legitimate interest for WG to improve their tournament system so that when i volunteer to cover streaming because it's fun, that the tournament goes smoothly for the players and myself
So much drama over a system that will get nuked by launching reforged like a nuclear missle on blitz xd
exactly
if we think it's bad now, wait until we have to do community run tournaments for the first 4 months of Reforged lmao
For real.
as we say this, im getting ready to stream EU pys 3 pt2, a server i don't play on. i've been splitting my time before this between APAC (another server i don't play on) and NA. all i want to do is help out the community
also worth noting despite the chaos of yesterday, the replaying of matches or groups affected by issues is a step in the right direction by whamen. I was on the losing end of it yesterday, but I recall two cases from years ago where my team was just told nothing can be done about it. There are other things to point out but this in itself is not a negative imo
@high barn 
You're the goat mate, we need more peoples like you
Oo

I think that’s generally something people need to keep in mind. Whamen doesn’t want these issues either. No one does. We’d all be happiest if everything went perfectly and smoothest. She’s making very long days and undergoing a crapton of harassment for it.
We all understand the frustrations of the issues, but instead of shouting we’re better off working together to get things fixed
I don’t need the exact cause. I need those causes fixed.
In my text, I was talking about tournament-related issues that directly affect the tournaments.
The technical problems I pointed out weren’t connected to the tournament manager — that’s not her area of responsibility. But her actions afterward, as well as the actions of the company employees involved after that, raise a lot of questions. And that wasn’t the only point I made in the text.
But you don’t care, because you think I’m blaming her for not being able to fix a technical issue in one second just because she’s the tournament manager.
Yeah, sure.
You guys are honestly hilarious.
I’m pushing for top-tier tournaments and for them to improve. Apparently, you want to bury them. Okay.
That’s my opinion, dude. I have every right to it. Just like you have the right to yours, and so on.
I don’t give a **** whether you approve of it or not. I’m just laying all this out so it’s crystal clear what I’m actually talking about.
@upper oar ♻️🗑️
is it me, or does this look like more AI slop
It’s gonna be okayyy. Reforged will fix it
Ai be slowly taking over humans now 🙁
ok its definitely not me, classic "its not A, its B" phrasing, line breaks for every sentence, using em commas
i'm done with this conversation now lmao, there's nothing more to add besides more waffling
if only people were aware of what a nasty existence is hiding there behind those ai generated slop texts, theres zero reason to listen to this person whatsoever
I just read the original post in the logs. Just wow. And then claiming he didn’t pretend to talk for other people, too 🫣😂
Anyhow, thank you for giving both APAC and NA love this season, Frost =) I’m so happy to see many more streamers around, especially for those two servers ❤️
If I didn’t play in tournaments, wasn’t on a team, and didn’t hang out with tournament players, this post wouldn’t exist—and nobody would even notice 📸
mute for no reason, yeeeeeee 🤟🏿🤟🏿🤟🏿🤟🏿
@lime star
Can you mute him? He has no constructive criticism
He’s not actually pushed it that far, tbh. He’s within server rules, for now
Unfortunately many peoples are ungrateful and don't understand how lucky we are to have Whamen for the future of tournaments, it's also funny to see how peoples talk like if tournaments never had any problems before, there was even a season where some games had to be played at 23:30 or something like this on EU some years ago. Technical issues are part of every games, if you can't deal with that then you might aswell stop video games i guess.
Just one exemple: I'm not concerned by that but some of you in this chat are playing pro tournaments since years now, til now your compensation for camouflages you already have was credits, Whamen joined and now you're getting gold, think about all these things before blaming her for things she doesn't even have the control on
By the way, that’s absolutely true, and I’ll go even further.
It wasn’t several years ago, but actually a little more recently. Back then, we were all there for a very long time, but we played all our matches successfully and finished the day on a high note.
But what was done back then? Every match was played, the teams were properly notified, and the work was done well.
Back then, there was a different manager and a different approach.
We’re all getting ready for Reforged now. But that doesn’t change the fact that the tournament is taking place in the current version of the game, and if the manager and the tech department can’t handle the basic issues, what awaits tournament players in Reforged? The same thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys, it’s all great, and a lot of fun.
If the tournament manager were chosen based on the principle of “she’s really, really cool and is with us (the tournament players) with all her heart,” I think every other person could be a tournament manager. Her direct responsibility is to deliver positive results. If there are no positive results, what is there to praise her for?
#constructive criticism
Another (possible) reason why there's so many technical problems is bc whamen is implementing lots of player feedback on the fly (proving grounds, cutting certain maps, rearranging groups) instead of letting the extremely flawed current system run automatically
You're coming from an assumption that everything was sunshine and roses before, which was 100% not true. Personally, I'd rather have technical glitches (maybe 1-2 hours of inconvenience) versus a flawed system that hurts my team unfairly (months of training wasted)
If you want systems to improve, there's going to be growing pains. And yes, part of that is 100% pointing out problems. However, attacking the person trying to enact the change or getting so upset over the problems to not want the change is not constructive.
It's like construction on the road. It's annoying when it's there, but we also all want the new shiny road with no potholes.
holy text
Most people just want an easy group to steamroll and when that doesnt happen its the systems fault
You're still going to play the matches, i don't really see the problem with that then, the different approach you're talking about wasn't always the best with all due respect. Whamen is here since some months only and she have to deal with an old system with many problems inside it, how can you blame her for pushing one button to launch the tournament system ? everytimes there is a problem she's communicating with the peoples concerned and at any hour of the day because of the different timezones of the 3 servers, like what else do you want from her 😂
"can’t handle the basic issues" this is very bold of you as a player to assume that all the issues she has to deal with are "basic" i'd love to see how all the haters would do as a tournament manager, you guys would probably all give up after few days once you'd realize that a part of this community doesn't have any respect and can be very annoying once something is not working well.
I’m still upset ponda wasn’t in my group yesterday
To put it simply, guys, you can pick on me all you want and cite all sorts of nonsense.
But I’m all for ensuring that tournament players have a bright future. The problems that have already occurred can’t be undone, but we can avoid problems in the future—yes, not absolutely all of them, but it’s worth trying.
My position is that if there’s no stability and no positive results—it’s criticism and nothing but criticism.
I don’t get personal, and I don’t care who organizes the tournaments; if there are no positive results, no progress, and tournament players aren’t impressed by the work done or the tournaments themselves, why do we need a tournament manager like that?
And then, we’ll see the number of registered teams gradually but “negatively increase.”
And there will be questions—why is that? 👏
Thank you for sharing your opinions and comments. You’re awesome.
Thank you for more AI
I’m more concerned at you not seeing any of the positive changes made so far. Technical issues aside, Whamen has been communicating a lot, and has been listening to things the tour scene wanted and wants (like the banned tie breaker maps, for instance). She’s organized and is organizing meetings with the tour scene, collecting all sorts of feedback about big and small things, to make this season better, and to work towards the reforged tour system be as much of a dream as it can be
@faint haven this conversation and your ability to talk will end right here if you are unable to follow server rules 🤷♀️
I can't use a translator because this "smart" streamer keeps messaging me about "AI"
Or maybe she's out of touch with current trends and doesn't know that most translators use AI.
Is there only one person who is managing the tournaments? (and handling all the issues during the matches?)
Yes
"if there are no positive results, no progress, and tournament players aren’t impressed by the work done or the tournaments themselves, why do we need a tournament manager like that?" - The problem with your messages is you don't have any ideas of all the work Whamen is doing behind the scenes, once again it is easier to blame her for things she can't prevent from happening but if you really want to share your opinion i suggest you to change your speech cause beside blaming her you're not really bringing anything on the table so far.
"And then, we’ll see the number of registered teams gradually but “negatively increase." - Proving ground is something that will motivate more teams especially the beginners to play tournaments in future, so your point is not valid at all, the low amount of teams registering has been a problem since long time, way before Whamen joined Wargaming
Nothing but criticism is not helpful if it is not Constructive... thank you for clarifying, that you dont care at all.
Yes, always has been only one tour manager at a time
or even when it was Rexy and Daria, they were in the same time zone, so if there was problems in the early morning or late evening for them, well, they had to get back to work
Afaik you didn’t mention earlier that you were using a translator, until you actually wrote Russian. I’m sorry I’m not a mind reader and don’t know what you’ve not said before you said it 🙃
I’m definitely not as smart as that
I mean, when the system breaks down or something like that happens, she is also to handle by herself ⁉️
its perfectly easy to find translators that don't use AI to add new words, that's total cap
She can contact tech staff, I reckon, but when it comes to the tour system, I think she can do most of it herself - when it’s server issues or gamebreaking (not tour match breaking) stuff, she can of course get help
mainly DevOps and SRE's work on fixing break-downs
I know the rule: if you want change, suggest it.
I’m not 14 years old. But I have experience playing not only Blitz but also World of Tanks. I know full well how this company “listens” to players and makes the game “better.”
The ban on cards in the tournament everyone is writing about was introduced in other disciplines back when I was in kindergarten.
This isn’t a credit to the current tournament manager, but rather a shortcoming of the previous ones.
As for the fact that we don’t know the scope of her work, that’s more of a shortcoming on her part and that of the community manager, since there are plenty of videos where game developers and managers introduce their responsibilities and work to the audience in the format of an interview with someone. I don’t see anything wrong with us being able to watch such interviews with the company’s key managers working on the project. In them, they could explain step by step what their work entails and provide examples of their activities.
Word +
Based on all these "discussions", I have a feeling that it's not anyone's fault but WG is just not too concerned with Blitz tournaments, as compared to WoT PC 🤷♂️ (maybe until recently)
So can we replay yesterday on NA but swap kittnm and Ponda?
No, man, it’s not about how much attention was paid. It’s more about the funding.
If there were big money involved, there would be more oversight: where, why, and for what purpose; what’s been done and what hasn’t.
The tournaments in "Big Brother" had long since fizzled out, and, fortunately, they’re back: players are playing, and the format as a whole is interesting there.
In Blitz, we constantly heard the same old story—that the devices were weak, blah blah blah, or that implementation was impossible due to technical issues and the like.
But let’s not forget to pop up 150 personalized offers as soon as you log in, so you can chip in your two cents to the company’s budget.
If only they’d chip in that much to the tournament budget, and the prize pool in major tournaments was at least $150–200k
But)))
Hopefully WG has more focus on tournaments in the future and also increases the prize pools for Esports. I mean compared to other games like Counter Strike the prize money is a joke. And a bigger prize would also be some kind of advertising for the game as it would probably get more publicity. Motivates more players to play Tournaments.
If they work out a good tournament system for reforged hopefully then it can be great.
That's great—you really know your stuff.👏👏👏👏👏
What reason does wg have to increase the prize pool funding besides “because players want to win more money”?
The streams presumably make no where near $150-200k in revenue so unless major sponsors come in… they just lose money
If my boss can do that too… I want a better salary because I want more money pls
It’s a free to play game that “attempts” to not hide elite tanks behind a paywall so it’s not exactly easy to make money off the tournament tanks
Rocket league does a great job of selling pro team skins, banners etc. An easy opportunity for top4 teams maybe even top8
But realistically, does more than 10% of the playerbase care about tournaments? My guess is certainly not more than 20%
Why does lesta do it? Because they make loads of money in return. So is every major esport game
I think this topic is over talked about with same results every time
It just seems to me like the window has come and gone unfortunately so unless there’s a major effort to making it a big deal, I can’t imagine it changes is all
I wish it was different. There’s a reason why shoto has a daily “bring back twister” post
Will the tanks for season coins come back in the store?
yes
My bet would be:
Higher tournament rewards lead to higher interest in tournaments which leads to more publicity which attracts more players to play world of tanks blitz and therefore let the playerbase grow.
I actually think it is a esports law. Why is Counter Strike still so relevant? The game itself doesn't offer so much. But if you are good in it. Then you can make a living out of it.
Yes, Tournaments will not be called Blitz Masters Tournaments. More like "Insert Sponsor" Tournament.
I’d counter that with adding $50k doesn’t increase the tournament involvement because the average 50% player knows they’ll never come near any $$$ placement wise
Outside of the people already playing, I doubt it does much
The money doesn’t extend past the top 4 or 8 right? So why would people who don’t play, suddenly start when they know they won’t place
Who says wg makes money from the number of teams?
So you’re looking at tournament $$$ ^ means viewership/advertising ^
I would argue in general that more players playing tournament means more serious players in general. More premium time bought, more gold, more tanks etc
This imo is free money
With sponsors lets say the budget is 500k.
250k for the winner
125k for 2nd
50k for 3rd. 25k for 4th
4-8 10k each
9-16 5k each
17-32 1250 each team
So veen if u play like me you have a more or less realistic chance to get into money. Then i think a lot more teams would participate. I mean. Top 32 is not unrealistic for a somewhat decent team.
It will be a big minus at the first glance but in the long run i think it would actually help to find new players are there are now 320 players who get a money reward in the tournament. For the time each of them put in. For the hard work and love of the game.
Participation trophies is wild work 💀💀
I like this a lot. The only issue is the $500k is like 2-5x too high for current stuff from what I see
Top 32 is also a wide enough net that people could make it in with a decent bracket working in the favor and some luck. I agree it’s very achievable for plenty outside the top 32
It’s too bad the Amazon mobile masters series died out or blitz isn’t apart of it
Having a huge title sponsor would be rather nice
Twister 2 was Sandisk
Mm 17 and 18 was Amazon
Twister 3 or 4 was the gorilla energy drink iirc?
Yes but if they announce this then i think there would be even more competition to get into top 32.
And I would put it that high because I think new players could be won for the game maybe. Thex see whoops maybe if I play blitz and do not play that bad i could get into the prize pool area relatively easily. Then they never do but already have spent too much money to leave the game like me.
@hardy delta well this is for EU server. Not NA or Apac. Wouldn't chance NA or Apac as you are 5 players in total on the server.
The difference in prize pool size, which is half, matters, because it means the company is ready to invest half more. players participating in tournaments.
- Another category, prize pool in 100+ dollars already moves the tournament to a bit another level, not like basic seasons with max prize pool in 50 thousand.
- More attention from both players and media. More serious involvement from strong and experienced teams, and forming new ones, maybe teams/players who didn’t participate before. Chance of old players coming back or bringing new players from the “big brother” (World of Tanks). Why so much about players ? If you see prize pool in 150k, you think that maybe this is not a one-time action and in the future you can pretend not only for “respect and uvazhuha” (team avatar and profile background), but also for not bad money, which you get for your work and spent time exactly on preparation to the tournament. Media: more money, more viewers, more excitement, interest to watching, more advertising integrations for media people themselves and noise in media space.
- Less motives - to drop/skip the season, because reward is more significant and valuable, performance of new and experienced teams, more serious fights and preparation to matches (what I described earlier, sorry for repeating)).
- Increasing trust from players to tournament component, if company drops such money into tournament for cross-platform game, means tournament component will be on serious level and some problems won’t be there. Means you can register and play, try yourself and your team.
- Possibility to “talk out” experienced and old players, who already with one leg on the doorstep, to leave tournament component or the game overall.
- After the tournament and if everything goes well, possibility of cooperation with company and sponsor offers? (What in the future can positively affect media component of both company and tournament teams players, and also discipline overall) ???
Still a participation prize you can maybe argue for top 16 on eu but t32 on eu isn’t all that from what I’ve seen 💀💀
That’s the point. Making it appealing to more casual decent players to get in. Maybe you get them hooked and this grows the comp scene
What player doesn’t want to win money for a game they already play for free
Top 32 teams on EU would probably play top 8 on NA or Apac. They are not that bad. And with this prize fund there would be even more competition than it is right now.
And your participation prize thing. I on EU get nothing from playing tournaments at all. Not even a participation prize. On NA or Apac you basically automatically get your top 32 thing by making a team. I don't. I have to either learn to play better or (my way) make crazy moves to get into Top32 and get the reward like last season. But crazy moves don't even work now this season and with more competition they won't work at all.
In my opinion, if we want to make an impact on Blitz tournaments, we just complain less and play more.
Being a professional in a certain field, I think professionals prefer self regulation than being regulated by some authority.
We win (or lose) by skill, rather than on technicalities or by exploiting the rules.
If the system goes wrong during a battle, we should act with chivalry to sort it out (or re-do) among ourselves, unless we are trying to tell the whole world that we win purely on luck.
In my opinion, the Tournament Manager should just be a mediator to help the players sort out issues among themselves, nothing more, nothing less.
(Can't we just make use of the Training Rooms, organise some tournaments and stream them ourselves?)
I’ve literally watched streams where t32 teams are playing and they maybe would get 14-16th imo, let’s not act like t32 eu is some t8 on NA that’s some cope 💀
If you have have an iq above room temp t32 on eu looks like a freebie
Also this meta is literally the most rewarding for “crazy plays” just yolo with 5 krans you kill 2 tanks in 6 seconds 😭
If training rooms will be made so they fit the conditions and finally allow more than 2 spectators, and also the ability to activate reload boosters. Then I honestly won’t care where I play, in a training room created by the organizer or in the tournament one. (In the first option, the chance that something goes “wrong” is lower) (if the organizer of course doesn’t forget to set the battle mode to supremacy)))))))))))
Just look at teams like RO_X, PRFCT or WHO. They are in current T32. And they know how to play. They would 100% get into Top 8 NA or Apac. They are already now close to top 16 on EU which nowadays is not easy at all and far more competitive than the other servers in general.


fan have you considered you might just be unc?
Nahhh bro, can't let you say that
Why
yeah bro thats also true. we all remember how the boys were crying and asking to make legionnaire rules stricter, so CIS boys wouldnt come and “steal” from the “poor” and unlucky “EU” players.
and then this miracle rule appeared, “2 legionnaires” per team.
kinda scary to imagine what would happen with EU, and not only EU, if CIS(Lesta) teams could register and play in final stages of the tournament.
there would be crying in discord again 🔥
Guys pls help
The only reason not more EU players play on NA or Apac is because the time. Otherwise there would be far more players doing it there because it is simply easier. Like before the EU CIS Server Merge in 2022.
Wait you’re telling me playing on other servers is not time efficient and makes you play at odd times?!?! Shoot I would be playing on EU if I didn’t have a life from 2-4pm!
Also if NA is so free why do the t1 eu guys fail to get 1st on NA?
crim plays all 3 servers, korah does it sometimes too, you're just not dedicated enough
You are right! Will fix up!
Pls help for this turnament eu server tier 9-10 10vs10 pls join name turnament name is Gg pls join is eu server
I would be the first one to grab an easy T32 in NA or APAC participation award. But I either have to work or sleep. I could quit my work but then I am in trouble or skip sleep, then I am in trouble.
@hardy delta i don't think there is a full EU team there. But would be interesting to let top teams like AQVA play NA. I think they would have a pretty chill time. EU Top 8 don't play the game. They create art.
Are you saying you’re unable to breakdown how t8 eu plays so you just chalk it up to art? I think I’ve found the disconnect
@supple quartz shrodingers ragebait 😭
Fanolade trying to ragebait drrekt starts to be entertaining
Pffffs, Blitz Cup 2019 results check, and check 2018, 2017.
Xd
Uhmmm this is supposed to be a discussion how dare you advertise your puny little team?!??
Yes
Comparing the time of bows and arrows to the nuclear warfare we have today 🥶🥶
I don't play at Top 8 EU level. Only played training against Top 8 Teams on EU like 6 years ago. You remember like 2020 Endgame absolutely dominating EU. Playing against them was like you click battle and know they play with you. Back then I was the guy in the team that was only in the team because the team didn't get enough players otherwise. I learned a lot there tough and found my love for clanwars. But even when I don't play at this level. I know what fine clanwars looks like and I also know I can't do it because it is fine and I don't play fine. @supple quartzNooo I don't want to ragebait.
After the death of the team back then I never played at higher level again. I actually tried out with a very good team before this season the first time ever since then. Didn't make it. But learned a lot. Unbelieveable what I have learnt there. In 2 weeks being tryout. That's why I love clanwars. There are people explaining what I can do better. I love that. I don't have that in my current clan at all.
I joined the tournament scene by accident actually if you go back to 2019 march i joined LXN. Why? idk why they let me in but they always had problems getting players together and I was always there so better take me in than playing with 6. Playing Tournaments and trainings 5 days a weeks that was an amazing time. I learned so much. I mean they also were not happy with me at all because you know I had zero tournament experience before joining them and they played always Top 16 EU, mostly Top 10 not getting into top 8 by the slimmest of margin. But this was the best time of wotb I ever had. I loved it there even though I learned their way to play the hard way. But I didn't leave. never did. I still dream of the comeback of the team. It will never happen but it was a better time. The best time. Can you just imagine a team of players all explaining to you that you play bad? I can. And I need that. It is the only way to learn it. It only works the hard way.
ahahaha well what can you do, we have nuclear warfare now using the same arrows and bows.
I don’t think anything changed globally.
Everything is same as it was, somewhere even worse.
If only there were a cross server tournament so we could prove once and for all the best server 🥀
Maybe even an offline one...
We writing books of our life story nowadays in this channel? I missed a lot in a few days it seems like
NA so good a guy with 0 top 32s on EU got top 4 there 🥀💔
If it’s eu,na,apac, eu-1 , na 2, apac 3 🏆🤟🏿 ez.
In eu we have so much good team, when on na and apac, maybe 2-3, and in this team they have 1-2 eu top4 players xd.
Yeah maybe the american champions could still give europeans a decent fight, but definitely not Asia.
Something that this does as well is hype up newer players to want to join those clans. I remember when I first starting play back in 2017 that many people's goals were just to join a clan like rgn, pramo, pncr, or void
This in turn keeps the player base and tournament community active
Completely agree. In a way, na would benefit from the top end clan monopolies in this sense
Hello I have T32 avatar and Top 20 leader competition. My experience from better CW days of mine are years ago. I always end up in teams were I am more of the kind of player who explains to others what to do. But for the future I want to be the worst guy in the team again. I played a bit with LUV. I learned so much from them you don't know how much I learned there it was insane. It felt so good to get critique. Of course in the moment i got it I was like "What u don't know better cw i played eu top 10 team 139487 years ago" but after a day or so you accepted it and learned from it.
I just love to remember the 1 training in LUV where I played bad in every single battle. Every single one. This was the most deciding training which lead to my exclusion from the team. Do I feel angry against them? no. I am thankful. I learned there. Yes, the training in the next day I tried my best and played at least in damage better than in all other trainings. But nevertheless they showed me, Fano, you can do it better. And I can. I actually did some moves in the current season that I learned there which helped to win a battle. I will always be thankful to this team to let me tryout there. always. This is also why I also rooted for them silently in my body during the season. But I am always forever thankful for anyone who has helped me. Because most people see "oh it is Fano oh no". But some are different. They give me a chance. I give them everything I can.
whose reading all that
😂
I will cry 🥲 it’s so cute
EU top 32 is the biggest joke + overrated.
aren’t no way they could ever come close to APAC or NA top 16 .
keep coping 
i can’t even make myself to watch eu streams below t8 .
I didn't know apac and na had that many teams
Congratulations on top8 NA
Congrats on na top 8!
i don't play NA
So after talking so much, are we going to have tournaments ⁉️
I think Top 16 teams on EU would do really well on apac. Top 8 100%. For top 1. Maybe you have like 1-4 teams that can compete. but you never had the competition to play against EU, the bigger server who has more competition naturally. I personally obviously wouldn't beat your teams with the teams I am in but these good EU teams. Well. I think you can be very thankful they don't play on your server. Prove me wrong but yet there was no possibility to do it. In the end it is statement vs statement.
✅ 1816960632 was muted.
I have the highest respect for teams who play the lower leagues. At the end of the day, they play because they have the passion to continue playing even when they get bullied by better teams. And it doesn’t matter which server because it’s the same for all 3.
Its too bad that you don’t seem to appreciate that
That's one of the reasons that I want to get to Reforged, so that people can prove whether they are really good or not 🤷♂️ (and hopefully one day players from the China server can join)
They don't get your humor ig
bro i don't play NA
@worn belfry
Holy yap
pls donate prize money to teams that place top 40 🙏
would be cool. I love the idea but the time zones are still a problem. NA and APAC players probabably cant play when the majority of EU can play. And EU would be the deciding factor. as we havefar more teams. 109 made in this season. NA only 39 and APAC only 36. according to the Hall of fame. But i just saw APAC 2 guys have place 36. but I wouldn't change much at all. EU has 3 times more teams participating at least. last season It was 4x more. I think you don't want that if it really happens. I didn't want the EU - CIS server merge in 2022 either. Because it directly affected me. On the other hand it introduced rewards for Top 17-32.
ic now
A lousy doctor cannot chase away the best doctor in town so that he can claim that he is the best doctor in town, right?
It doesn't matter who is the best, but if we love the game, we should try to show the whole world who is truly the best, right?
That's why I say hopefully one day the China server players can join. (I think there are more players on the China server than EU+NA+APAC)
I have no problem with chinese clans being allowed to participate here. But last time I think it was Twister Cup 2018 they kinda got humiliated from each team they faced. Could have changed by now. I am open for it. More competition is always good.
I am not on the China server so I am not very sure how they are...
Anyone here who can share some information on the China server?
For group 1 I need to manually add start times, just tag me here when its time after first match
I will keep it open but I am busy doing top 8 checks 😄 so might get a bit deep into things
Group 2 invs going out now
G1:
[ENG] Frost - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GukDc4EEM4
G2 finals into G1:
[PL] Macieejo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtizvwRB7rk
All automations are switched off for EU so please just tag me if anything is there I need to see
@queen fox the score broke down in the second group - We have the wrong name and it shows the wrong score
yeah i think he left us for the night
hmm no worries
what is current score
I hope there wont be rematch 3rd time
I will talk to your captains dont worry ❤️ 🙂
😂😂
They just couldn't get enough of losing 😂
😂 😂 😂
why is the streamer for group 1 not streaming?
😝😝
new t32 QSX nice
Frosty maybe sleeping :) maybe had a tiring day. We all have that. Haha
I cant do that without notice, we have another group finishing in only an hour as well
so wont be enough time
W
Idk i could stream spontainously with a big german accent
Finally justice for HOP
ye lets go @waxen otter new streamer
I recognize the situation of my team in this message, unfortunately for us this was not our season, we got bullied by the seeding system even if ofc we could've played better, we still accepted to play the proving ground during this last PYS when we got knocked out day 1, and we had lot of fun, which is the most important thing at the end of the day because games are made for that https://outplayed.tv/media/XxK33Q
Okay so what happened in Group 2?
@queen fox If an english stream is desired then I can instantly make one. With best commentary as it is by me. Would just need in invite into the room. ign. Fanolade/537253017
The time for the final match in Group 1 is not yet known. @queen fox
there we go
its done!
@waxen otter no worries 🙂
its too late for us to add people to it
the system locks the amount of specators
Ahhh sad. I was ready for it.
ok so the last match and then we do seeding
can I ask how group 2 finished? In game it keeps showing different things, and it has an effect on our placement
Its finally fixed. it should show correctly now
Guys I am stepping out for 30 mins or so - Medical thing. I will finish seeds right after
so by 10pm you'll have your groups
Ik the players on China and they r not better than exl, chrd spams 215bs and didnt even make t8 on Asia, if u cant even t8 Asia u wont be competitive on the other servers
Are u mean CEST time ? Xd
CET most likely
@queen fox ^^^
i already fixed them
i still have them
yeah just ignore them XD
i adjusted the cups manually
thats an in game item, its a whole process I will handle next week to remove
Collector items
ok thx
Bro got muted lol
Muted lol got bro 
lmaoo
I wonder how CCs giveaways are managed?
Bonjour y a pas un discorde pour les français ?
We make a list with all winners and we send them to the tournament manager to give the prices, in general at the end of the tournament
Bonjour.
The reason I asked this is because I won a May battle pass from a CC last week. He made it clear that it is a "May" battle pass. He had submitted my IGN/ID and said it shoud have arrived some time last week. But, until now, already the last few days of May, I still haven't received the May battle pass.
So I wonder what could have gone wrong 🤷♂️
You won on oldschool stream, right?
It hasn't been sent yet. Wait until the end of PYS, when all the PYS 3 rewards will be distributed (Monday-Tuesday, I think).
Note: Day 4 for the EU has been postponed to today due to problems that occurred on Day 3. Therefore, the PYS is not finished for us.
@queen fox Hai, how are you doing? I hope you are doing good. I got a question, when will the tickets and rewards for the MEC and LEC be given out?
Im asking because there may be roster changes and i would like to plan much more accordingly.
Thank you for your time.
Whamen needs to send them all XD when PYS is done today she will do the leftovers she hasnt gotten to
Later today after legionnaire checks are done
Edit: hopefully I finish them today
u can do it,best whamen
thank you!
PS: you can take your time with the checking, as long as you need 🤣
Merci 🫡
I hope my team didn’t break the rules and regulations!
can you set the standard of professional gameplay for the NA server after you finish writing your biography of how you were on endgame back in 2008
No I only play on best server
where is my funny message to announce the streams? :(
“The pièce de résistance brining you group 2 with the best European language and accent”
Whamen is drowning herself in tea with a fever, she had no msgs left in her XD
Get well soon, sum people here can cause a headache...
Ok EU, lets do this 😛
i've read your message with my french accent, it's really funny
fr
I gotta watch who’s streaming?
Awesome 🙌 (I forgor I’m on my data rn😭😭 can’t keep watching for now )
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When will the Challenger matches start? @queen fox
Ty liquid 
Tornd looked strong today 💪
🌪️
🙈
Definitely 
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuurely
Bros essaying holy cope
no t32 this time unluck
i think fanolade needs to commit the energy he spends writing essays into playing the video game
When will the tickets for the lower tier be sent?

@queen fox is there any chance we could get the matchups before registration closes just so we know what team we play vs on each map?
If he spent half the time he spends complaining on training to get better, he would be top 4 already
^^^^^^
Real

Registration ends a day in advance so there is a lot of time 🙂
When will eu profs start 26th like in regulations or 27th because of that one day delay??
26 i hope
Let's hope
26

EU Lower Ech + Challengers open for registration
what is super nova camo?
this
Additional question concerning Challengers:
it says that „teams compete for […] camouflages (cyber spring, cyber summer)“ but in the prize fund section it says that „All participants in the final stage will receive: cyber winter and cyber spring camos“
Which one is it, cyber summer or cyber winter?
-# Honestly with 30 degrees outside I hope it’s not cyber winter xD
Just beautiful in the super Conqueror
It's probably spring & summer this make the most sense
just need to fix up! thanks for the catch
spring and summer!
And also in professionals there's cyber winter and cyber spring not cyber summer, and it have to be professional blue not orange I think
Get i the t32 rewards without a ticket too?
they need a ticket to participate so you have to be part of the clan and be given the ticket
When will the opponents for APAC Pro be decided?@queen fox
it's really... green no ?
Reminder to touch grass- maybe?
touch what ?
isn't grass poisonous?
What is grass
posted a few moments ago 🙂
EU will follow now
if its green its healthy
Yes and they have been dealt with 🙂 nothing to announce until after the tourney, top 8 spots are secured, just waiting on one confirmation before I published EU, and a handful more checks on NA
like your baguette on my pp
Am I missing the bread context

Still looking for top 1 ?
top67

67
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and look at UNX now 😛 unexpected some might say
UNXpected stuff coming from them 😎
@queen fox instead of a round robin can I just face ponda 7 times
10 push ups and ill make it happen

Best of 49
Korah is inevitable
But Lqvid cooked
thats why beer bottles are made of green glass

yo guys who do you think is gonna win it tho?
vzn or kitnm 🔥
QQ-
yea, I agree. I don't believe that JKER is going to win this time around.
i agree
how come
@queen fox @wraith frost← friend of mine wants to stream the APAC Best 8 tournament on YouTube. Would that be possible?
He’s Japanese, and it would probably be streamed from a smartphone.
A stream delay can also be set.
He said that if you put in the effort, PC streaming is also possible.
https://youtube.com/@saga_envy?si=Hcggjf-gXtkeIiNF
Hey I will send him a message. I cannot let him stream professionals the first time because it is risky with high stakes games, I need to see how he does it first, so I will talk to him and assign a lower echelon game first
did he pay you to say ts
Cannot comment on this at this time.
Make dizzy 2nd tournament manager
Well if they travel to their house and play from their IP there is nothing we can do to track them unless I smack an apple tracker on his car 😂
Background checks are done and a few people have already been removed from the event.
We do legionnaire checks at this time usually and account sharing after the event concludes.
Luckily this time we are doing some of the account sharing checks earlier
🔥 get those account sharers
Im quivering in my boots rn, Im so scared
they are gonna catch us
Yeah now apparently theyre checking on the latest 4-5 weeks
very unusual echelon registrating end times... i feel some team will just forget to register. i mean it will be on them, but i wonder why this changes each season
As long as people read they should be good!
i cant read
@queen fox top 8 players receive pro blue or orange ? Or both
blue
missed this one, will adjust to blue
Why did u have to say it, if it stayed that way whamen would need to give both, regulations are final L snitch
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regulations are on the website 😛
Cntrl C + Cntrl V
@queen fox is it not possible to watch other regions streams for rewards this time around? If I log into my account the stream gives a 404.
Amazing design, why don't you just limit the claimable rewards to a certain amount instead of limiting when and what streams people can gain them from?
Unfortunately you are not able to watch on other regions :/
you can watch on their YT links directly but not for rewards 🙁 We will have eu and NA links up soon
@leaden belfry hai!
I just want to say:
Please let us know of such arrangement earlier by, say, 1 hour or 30 minutes, not 5 minutes...
(I remember previously it was notified via in-game Notifications few days in advance.)
@queen fox Hai, i dont know if this was mentioned anywhere before, but i have 2 LEC tickets, 1 from a previous tournament. However, i am only able to use 1 ticker. Can you clarify this for me please? Thank you.
If it was your mistake shouldn't you give both for compensation for players? They have to respect that
Hi, why does the n9o broadcast say it's happening tomorrow, but the website says it's happening today? Maybe they mixed up the stream links 🤔 and it seems like the same situation applies to the French streamer.
because it's the wrong links :D
for me it's my mistake, n9o idk
Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to say.
Thanks
Updated them 🙂
Regulations with accurate rewards are published in advance, you are already getting a ton more this season. In game client can have a small delay now and again. If you have trouble understanding rewards available, read here #tournament-news message
Thank you, the links on the website have been updated and here as well, please. #game-news message
@queen fox i understand that you are busy. So, if you are unable to get to it now, then i would like to gather your thoughts on the possibility of extending the registration for LEC tourneys for the APAC server?
because the rule is 1 ticket = 1 player
Because it's a ticket from a previous season, not from this one
For what reason?
Maybe its time Hitam_X understands that he needs to register in time 😄
Some members are MIA. i am doing my best to contact them, but anything can happen.
@teal rapids i rather ask questions before things are set in stone than wait until things cant be changed and am left to pound sand instead.
np, its set for about 12 hours from now, but if we know in advance it can be adjusted by a few
Thank you 🙇♂️
@queen fox i participated with a clan and didnt receive the rewards on the previous pys preventing me from receiving the ticket to enter the lower echlon with the same clan is there anything I can do
You don't have any conditions to receive the ticket to participate in lower echelon, even if you played 0 PYS you can still get it, so you were probably not in a clan when she gave the tickets
well i left the clan prior to the rewards being given but shouldnt i have received rewards if i also did participate in the tournement ?
This is not how it works, every players of the clan are getting the ticket because you don't get it based on PYS participation, about the missing PYS rewards this is another issue but it's not changing anything to the ticket problem anyway
well if I left and re joined the clan does that mean im cooked ? or could anything be done for me to get a ticket ?
nvm its cooked
do you have to play a game in challangers tourny to get rewards? or can you just spec for them
W servers ppl cant log on the game before games starts
No not the squadmate
Na please confirm
Hello, could you please give the ticket to one of my team member if possible, he left the clan a little too early before ticket was given out but he played PYS 3 with us. clan is 16S and the player is Mythos currently in registration. I would appreciate that a lot, thank you!
I can't believe U shared the streams links just hours B4 the streams.
Streams that we get rewards 4 watching should at least shared a day (24 hours) B4 the streams start.
Spec is enough
alri ty
i trust this guy, he knows what he's talking about
We usually have no streams for rr and i tried setting them up yesterday in clutch time. You can enjoy the extra days of rewards instead 🙂
I missed them unfortunately, I wished I watched & got some free premium acc from fan containers 😑
there are 5 more days of these! Might even make it 7, depending on the interest 🙂
Testing to see how the views ramp up over time 🙂
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Bro,why are you complaining about 8 useless boxes no one want them !!
Actually that sounds wonderful!!!
I'm so interested! Make it 7 plz!!!
Don't care about what others think, they'll absolutely watch if there's a rewards!!!
glad to hear 😛 lets just hope the streamers will carry those streams on their shoulders 😄
Cuz we want them!
We were fighting on U'tube streams about only single 1 fan container, what're U talking about xD
I want them !!
Go watch stream then (ezzz)
Can’t I watch other servers’ streams while being on the European server? I can’t watch them right now.
You can watch but rewards are region based
can you check dm pls 🥹
@queen fox would u let someone stream their pov for lower echelon if their team is in it ?
Of course!
@teal mason time to stream our pov bruder 🔥
Sweet where would I reach out for this id give it a try
I guess just DM Whamen and she will help you with that
Appreciate it thanks
you should ask the boys who got banned 😉
@queen fox Hai, on behalf of my team, I would like to thank you for extending the registration time for the LEC and MEC tourneys. It really gave us time to settle things properly.
glad it helped!
Drop the names
A lot of Asias players are banned?
<@&588306161543938124> <t:1779904800:R>
[PL] Maciejo https://eu.wotblitz.com/ru/tournaments/streams/1353/#/
[ENG] n9o https://eu.wotblitz.com/ru/tournaments/streams/1348/#/active
[FR] Sneeko https://eu.wotblitz.com/ru/tournaments/streams/1347/#/active
[RU] Pyroblast https://eu.wotblitz.com/ru/tournaments/streams/1346/#/active
Легендарный танковый шутер. Сражайся в командных боях 7 на 7 в одиночку или с друзьями, исследуй и улучшай бронетехнику, пробуй разные тактики и побеждай. Выбери танк и отправляйся в бой!
Легендарный танковый шутер. Сражайся в командных боях 7 на 7 в одиночку или с друзьями, исследуй и улучшай бронетехнику, пробуй разные тактики и побеждай. Выбери танк и отправляйся в бой!
Легендарный танковый шутер. Сражайся в командных боях 7 на 7 в одиночку или с друзьями, исследуй и улучшай бронетехнику, пробуй разные тактики и побеждай. Выбери танк и отправляйся в бой!
you meant to send that in #tournament-news no?
should be
Crates also there?
I think we need to wait
(Подождём)
Cool
maybe no
yeah well maybe because its not 8pm yet?
Are there any english or not? Because it was supposed to get me to an english site
Not.only russia
Yup can we know???
[PL] Maciejo https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/streams/1353/#/active
[ENG] n9o https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/streams/1348/#/active
[FR] Sneeko https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/streams/1347/#/active
[RU] Pyroblast https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/tournaments/streams/1346/#/active
These are set to english
average wargaminsk moment
just change the ru to en in the link
It's just that the language is russian instead of english and that's it. And it's not a problem to just change it.
Ok. Anyways could anyone explain to me one by one what rewards you get? Because I don't speak RUSSIAN???
Same no English site ??
Fan container
Combat XP booster (blue one, not free xp)
Credits
btw I still waiting for the crate, I don't think I got it yet
just wanted to point that out 
What can a fan container give?
camos, tanks, avatars..
hope
Cool I thought that it wouldn't even contain any tanks since it's free
Small chance of one
But it is possible
kk sending it now 😄 we had a tech issue with sending on na and a few people didnt get! so will fix that up now
Tank parts, too
Idk
@green aurora @stiff lake @thorny carbon @loud drum
send player ids
_DaZe/523391324
@queen fox Hey, strongest-weekest seeding in lower echelon tournament means something like 17 vs 32, 18 vs 31 from the leaderboard or is it wr based?

woah, thanks 🤍
wr based
based
Hello Fennec
Is it gonna count? I mean am I gonna get those rewards?
Its starting 20cet
in 2 mins
Its normal? I see too
why I only see grey screen?
@primal flicker @stuck pagoda accept the cookies
Wdym? I log in
Lol i didnt, but i see the live and claim rewards. Everything works perfectly
How to claim rewards? Are they added to your acc automaticly after stream ends?
Yes, rewards are usually added to your account a couple hours after the stream ends.
@stuck pagoda normally when you open the WoTB portal the browser tells you that the website makes use of cookies, you can either accept them or deny them but if you deny them you will be met with a grey screen.
I fixed it, now it work!
Dooo, bratan, conechno-conechno, bratan.
After several hours of the broadcast ending.
1 hour after 😛 patient young ones
But how can I see the system didn't count it 
Its was amazing stream
Got all the loot? 😛 or enjoyed the games?
Yes - no 
Missed out on credits 😔
Get we the team avatars from last season before or with reforged?
after reforged
I didn’t enjoy my games but I still like my bois
Xobbi_wr (NA) 1074253859, thank you
i still enjoyed my bois but didnt like my game
I enjoyed my ventiom but didnt like my happy wotb
@queen fox Hello, I am the clan leader of UX Clan (APAC). I believe there is something wrong with the grouping of Challengers. Since TOP, CHRD, and LX are not participating, the original grouping should not be rearranged. Instead, the grouping should continue according to the rules. The grouping rules do not state that this situation will occur. I must strongly protest against the sudden change of grouping results and request that the grouping be changed back to the original rules.
Have you tried spending less time yapping and more time preparing
These are two different things, aren't they? Rules are rules, not something that amoebas can keep changing. Of course, we also spent a lot of time preparing and practicing, but it's their business if they withdraw from the competition. Why change the grouping method at the last minute?These are two different things, aren't they? Rules are rules, not something that amoebas can keep changing. Of course, we also spent a lot of time preparing and practicing, but it's their business if they withdraw from the competition. Why change the grouping method at the last minute?
Actually it states the organizer can make any changes they want. You just gotta read lil bro
OK
@queen fox the registration for LEC on APAC now shows it closes in 3 hrs 36 mins. Is this a bug or intentional?
Intentional
Intentional, there was a tech issue that I had to account for late last night
It would put us in a situation where everyone moves up.. ensuring games can actually be played. This is standard in esports when a team doesnt show up, the next seed replaces them
good morning holy
OK. Hope to see your team register and playing tonight.
Thank you, I understand.
Thanks
Hopefully 🤝
OK. Thank you Whamen ❤️
@queen fox personal messages please
Харош
We missed U last stream on Twitch, hope we C U again next Wednesday.
Give rohit a felice NOW
Give rohit a shower now
😂
LOL
@mild ibex
<@&481447501690568709> can we ban @cyan timber for racism?
I mean he does look stinky
Nah he is a good one
just a good samaritan concerned about his hygiene thats all
Man I forgot to watch the 26th Tournament and 27th's first hour. Got 3 boxes and managed to get this camouflage.
Better than nothing chat?
@sneekololo
for anyone unaware, the FCM camo can be changed for like 725 gold btw, if you got it then gg
I already did it lol, but can i ask? Is there a chance of dropping gold in those containers?
No, just in this form
@hazy gale, please note, that the official language of this server is English. If you want to speak Russian/Ukrainian, please join the server below.
Официальным языком этого сервера является английский. Если вы хотите говорить на русском, пожалуйста, присоединяйтесь к серверу ниже.
Офіційною мовою цього сервера є англійська. Якщо ви хочете говорити українською, будь ласка, приєднуйтесь до сервера нижче.
https://discord.gg/mkNtBAYcWy
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since when can pc players play pro tournaments?
My god you must have been hibernating long
Yesterday
woahhhhhhhhh
pc players ccant play tours

yes bro no pc players are alowwed to play tours
+-2 years ago WG changed Touch only to PC and Touch for Season
Would be new to me, but maybe it’s different on other servers (I can’t imagine)
bro i was just being funny
Oh xD 🙈
its just in China I believe
Is there any streams on our web today?
no this part isnt streamed
I mean I can stream my pov xD
I'll need to set it up first lol
Today will be stream?
Thank Uuuuu!
What a lovely Whamen if U give's rewards 4 watching his stream tonight 😍 😍 😍
nono i cant put him in the portal tonight XD
portal streams are a bit more complex haha
i need a solid 1 hour setup time for those bad boys
rewards are back on saturday
what a lovely wahmen
Sup twin
Xddddddddd I know that won't work but I tried
To receive Challenger tournament rewards, you must have completed at least two "Prove Your Skill" challenges.?
Yes?
What do you mean? Yes, it's necessary?
It is yes, doesn't matter in which team but you have to play two PYS minimum
#votes-for-tourney-players message Btw maybe some of you got it wrong(?) this idea would not mean that you have to play only one tank each battle, you could still use different tanks in the same lineup, but once you played a tank your team can’t use it anymore for the rest of the BO, imo more variety and more creativity would be a good thing in this game, most of the meta are dominated by few tanks because they are outperforming every other options, while we have almost 80 tier 10 this is very sad, exception can be made for the light tank tho
would it be per player ban or the most used tank on the team that round gets banned for the next round? Just was abit vague on how it was asked.
what happened to the spectator button in the tournament rooms?
we cannot spec any players
Buddy.
The question would be whether it’s for pro tournament or just casual tournaments
for pros challengers and lower ech thats always been a thing
my bad i did not know. ty for that
@strange nymph
@upper oar Can I have tourney player role, please?
@strange nymph can you respond to my message in-game?
bro i was trollling
I think the suggestion to keep change tanks would just add extra stress to CW, that already is challenging. The caller and players not only need think of strats and keep eye on teamplay and opponent, but also keep track of what tank each player should switch to next. The eventual meta faults should be fixed by devs balancing tanks, and to make key tanks available to whoever wants to grind or buy them for a reasonable amount (read: Felice).
I think map pick/ban is more than enough, with this we can see what maps are unpopular etc. rather than having a preset list of maps
Free to choose, free to use tanks are very fundamentally things that players have. Developers should play a vital role to balance tanks. Seconds, top pro players also contribute a big part of it, the ways pro players pick and plays in tournament games leading as a references that all other trying to “copy” and play the same to get wins. For example if pro players using AC tank X all and wins most of the games then you will see the changes. My suggestion is creating an experiment tour sth just called liked “multi skill proved tournament’ and rule it only 1 type of Tier X select per person, then you will see 7 tier Xs selected for a game. Then it’s really interesting to see how it goes. Also, the reward should be according with the efforts. @queen fox
Great idea
Make lost temple a comp map
Then the devs will see the best 7 tier X selected by pro tournament players, then you will have a better ideas to balance the whole tier X as you go. With 7 different types of tier X in the match we all will see the different ways of fighting, creating more challenging for leader who lead the team, creating more understanding of team members who play the best at which tier X, etc. Just sharing my thoughts
When I had the idea it was more like this: Once your team play tanks(regardless of the amount, except for the light where this would not apply) all your players can’t pick anymore these tank(s) until the next BO
To give more context it's something i wanted to try during next Rivals Cup more likely in the final top 8 or top 4 to see if peoples like the idea, more like a test then maybe this could be used in future tournament system in reforged, but it doesn't mean that it would be used for real pro tournaments, this would be up to Whamen and players
Or just agree like humans to not use certain tanks 👍
Well this will be part of the process anyway, cause i want to ban kran, 116 and felice from my tournament, i think we had this meta for enough time and there's no point to see it once again
We need to return to a single shot meta. Or at least a meta that isn't dominated by autoreloaders
Artillery meta when
What about balance department will play in their game?
This is another problem ofc yeah, but hopefully this will change in future if they listen opinions of top CW players when it comes to balancing tanks
if anyone is streaming their POV for lower ech/ challenger today, pls dm me so i can put it in the client 🙂
@teal mason time to shine
He's not even playing because of work 😔 , same for Marmelade he could play only if we were starting at 20:00 but maybe Destin will stream 🙏 i need to convince him
Schere
good idea
why would balance department play, they just tweak random stats like +2mm HE pen on 50b and take the paycheck
streaming tour from mobile reduce my fps more than half, dang ig my phone's just gettin old 🥀
Reforged won't fix this one
if you play with more than 30 fps shut up cuz that's what i play with
Aura
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wg and moderators how do we feel about this guy trying to influence polls
🤪
Hello noone ever said it is not allowed.
hello that's why i asked how WG and the moderators feel about it
Just give us cycle gun meta and all gucci 🙏
#votes-for-tourney-players message voting no cuz i feel like it's better to just ban certain tanks from comp just like what lesta did instead of being forced to change tanks every round, and what if some people only have a few tier 10s and they ran out of a tank to choose from 🤔
and what about each season there'll be a diff tank that are restricted from playing in comp forcing teams to use a diff tank while also giving them time to adjust to the new tanks, that would be cool i think, so it's like a challenge.
i feel like we need to do another poll 🛌
How do i get access to this channel where u all voting
In the other hand, trying to manipulate a poll(even if i doubt it would work in this case) is just useless because it could make a part of the votes irrelevant and there's no point in that.
@ancient linden you need to have tourney player role, that you can get by contacting one of the moderators if your account has enough tournament battles(500 at least)
🥲 mehh i have onyl 2.5 k tur games
what about players who only have 1 tank? how can they rotate?
Get some tier10 tanks before playing tournaments idk
like example : most used tanks within the previous season aren't allowed to play on the next one
Mehh thats still way to spam tanks
Banning few tanks would be a good start, but imo this is not enough simply because you will ban let's say three tanks, then at some points peoples will find the new stronger ones, and so on.
That's why doing a mix of both is in my opinion a good thing, yeah you can still ban 116, kran and felice if we take the exemple of this meta, but going for the other idea aswell just makes it even better, also much more enjoyable to watch when it comes to the gameplay too. We all have tanks that we enjoy to play with but can't even dream of playing them in comp simply because of the dominating tanks every tier 10 rebalance
i mean there should be a difference for what tanks are being spammed
just an idea to not allow 116 but banning most used light does that even make sense?
hmm then maybe instead of banning every round it's per-map?
Might have to put your disc name as your ign dizzy
And keep it that way =]
its best to keep myself hidden! Only few people know me twin
You just wish the maus was meta so you could play more tour games
i’ll do it when my main is unbanned (5 yr Unban poll by amaunet) because rn im stuck on this acc soo if u can remind her thx
Banned on this Discord?
That did slip between the cracks and I do apologize for that. That being said, you’ve been ban evading with this account for months before you appealed, which definitely changes things
