#tourneys-discussion
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ngl that was kinda rude lmao
Your level of Russian also is higher than mine
Lieut begged here for 1 day after he violated and lost all trophies
@cyan timber can u teach me Russian ?
In what way have you EvAluAtEd that?
Write it to him, not me. I didn't care about pixels since 2019
Welcome to the cap store
i love tolyan so much
Proof or fake
Me too
then mate why did you come here to brag how we were "scared" of CIS players , countlesly claiming how you didnt break any of the in-game rules nor sell spot, then get banned from the tournament and cry about the fact that the team that lost to you is asking for compensation???
you seem to care more than you want us to think so pls mate stop the 🧢
homie random generated his username
🤣🤣ask him why he's ignoring you
Thb yes🤷♂️ i feel the same
guess "Official server language is English. Using other languages in public channels is unacceptable." isn't a rule after all 😂
xaxaxa
Mhm i see
Well other seem to be pissed, switch to English mode)
- Show me where I cried about it
- I came to see how the team is expected to beg for cups for a lost match. According to this logic, let's award cups to all teams of the tournament
Mate just take the L 😶🌫️
How can a match won by infringement be a fair match?
Are you saying that the transfer of accounts makes the players who fight in battle stronger? Are you all right?
Mate he’s just standing up for his home team
If you speak English and are of sound mind, you can understand what I mean.
What are you trying to prove to me when I say that begging for cups is funny
He is telling that there is a rule only 2 people can play from different regions in eu, so if you do not understand the rule, ask them to explain it yo you in russian. Maybe that will make sense
English please
And how does breaking this rule make the team stronger
And do not understand what are you trying to defend here against us. Maybe you got bored and trying to make fun for yourself
It’s a protectionist policy designed to keep teams on separate servers safe from outside competition from other servers
The team broke the rules and was banned - these are its problems. The other team lost in a fair fight - these are its problems
Who told that you are stronger or weaker, we are talking how you violate the rules. So smart person would not even come here and talk about this you know
Well yes but as the team broke the rules the results of the match should get reverted in favor of the team which played fair
What do you think he wrote here @rose aspen
You think the matches are won fairly, but Tolyan says there was a violation. So I'm asking, how is it a fair-won match?
The results should be canceled if the match itself was played dishonestly and with the advantage of the other team. The players did not receive any advantage after the transfer of accounts.
How unfair it is to join a competition and participate there while not getting any rewards at all, and taking the chance of other teams to continue forward.
Well they shouldn't even compete in first place
Ok but if you know that you are violating the rules, why do you still participate?
I'm having fun seeing all the violating russian actors pretending to be innocent
The problem is not the fairness of the competition, but the fact that a team competed illegally. You’re missing the point.
First of all you waste your time, and secondly people start hating you more and more for doing stupid moves
This is the right of the players, they have the right to do it and get punished for it. Also with the World Cup in Qatar, where gay propaganda is banned. They can come there, it's their right, but they will be put in prison for 8 years
Not only him, all ru players
I do think people here says you are weak or you are the number 1 , they just want a fair environment and to spent their 2-3 hours to enjoy the game
Ah yes, irl politics, my favorite response to pixel tank diplomacy.
I'm sure when there is a competition being held and someone gets disqualified after beating someone, the loser advances, no?
It's the players' choice, what's the difference
ikr, this is great cuz im currently stuck in a really boring "class" that's graded on attendance right now
This is not politics, it's a simple fact, I didn't offend anyone, but only gave an example, there is no politics here
I would not argue with you anymore, it is nonsense. If a donkey was here it would have understood and apologise for its behaviours, rather then playing stupid here.
Then if it’s the player’s choice to break the rules why are you complaining about people who broke the rules being punished? Pick a side bro
Yes, when the loser lost not because of his level of play, but because of external factors affecting the competition
I don't think he is defending anyone, he just tries to push the opinion that the match was played on the same playing ground and therefore lgn shouldn't get the cups which they lost
It's hard to talk to people who can't use their brains
Oh great so he’s even dumber than I thought, perfect
hold on a second, aren't you from Russia? i don't think bringing in real world examples is the pro gamer move you think it is lol
I'm also trying to explain to you that you stand up for a person who behaves very low, but you don't understand this. And so you will communicate and insult your family at home
Can you explain how he behaves low?
You don't even understand what I'm writing about, I'm not writing about punishment, but about how funny it is to beg for cups for an honestly lost match
I'm thankful for this channel tho, rn I'd be dying on my way home in a train
Ok I do not say anything about that one, what I want to know is that why would you do this in first place?
At least one understood what I was talking about, bravo eu
Maybe no match won by VIOLATION using your brain is fairly won.
Okay, so they lost the games fair and square, there was no cheating in the games themselves. But the team that won entered the tournament breaking the rules, so every team they played deserves to be compensated since they had to play against a team that broke the rules and ruined the spirit of fairness in the competition. You’re missing the point, they’re not upset they lost, they’re upset that the team they happened to lose to was even allowed into the competition.
Enjoy your travel xd
You're a very smart guy, I think <@&481447501690568709> This is already out of bounds
Thank you🫰
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Erm not overly convinced that comments relating to sexual orientation can possibly apply to either this channel or blitz
This tbh
He would take penalties for sure
Agree with you +1
I don't know what other example to give, because you can't reach very smart people
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I think no XD
Should I repeat this 10 times? Read my messages above if you don't understand
are we at it again?
You have some kind of double reaction to insults, for some reason you think that what these guys write is normal
This is competitive pixel tanks, obviously we are.
By saying he is low, and not explaining it. Cool move, how easy it is to say smth and pretend that this is the only correct thing
Hold the chat for now. while we trying to catch up
what? I literally only just arrived because we got tagged and I need to read so I can know who to yeet
english only on server
Answer me the question, what advantage did the team get when the accounts were transferred
asa_213#6905 was banned
Now he plays innocent, oh dear how sad it is.
Read this for example @leaden belfry
🖤💔𓆩ɆꝟīłɉĦ𓆪💘♍#3538 was banned
If the accounts were just transferred then why did you get banned?
I have 172 messages to read, so literally, just sit back, grab your popcorn and enjoy the show
Enjoy while reading them xd
we all have been, :3
^^ Just have some patience
why should you get more cups for underestimating an opponent? even if they played with false cards…
They deserve compensation only if they lost due to external factors affecting the fight, I am writing this for the second time. They lost in a fair fight
no doubt this is the most interesting channel from this server
Why do we always degenerate to the lowest levels? I mean having a sensible debate is 1 thing but sometimes it seems we are incapable of doing without throwing accusations & insults.
Dude... Stop chatting for the moment?
We are trying to catch up so no innocent gets caught in crossfire
but if you keep the thing going we will take action against you as well
you understand that? @ebon goblet
Someone give me the sparknotes on the incident
In other more important news I’m streaming SNTY tonight 😊
trust me bro u dont want them at this rate
Believe me I've tried to be patient until now but it's funny how they've been acting innocent since the Spring season
o yeah i forgot we have stream today
ofc not
Because they cheated. It has nothing to do with underestimating the opponent. Why should our team lose cups because we faced cheaters?
Look as I told you, I do not say anything how you won or what was the score. Only problem here is that, you violate rules and you know that, cause got banned already previous pys. Why would you still come and try to participate?
We will make some good show for u 🦘
OK, I will write for the tenth time if you are not able to read the messages from 1 time. It's very FUNNY to beg for cups after losing in a fair fight
No idea not looked too lazy
C_T_P_A_LLI_H_bl_U Михаил#6350 was muted
Ight, I will pull out 😂
This goes to others as well
Playing in 6 is underestimating a bit isn't it
Maybe -1- playing vs us we will see
Thx mods done
they didn’t have an actual advantage. you had a disadvantage by playing with 6. which is your fault.
Watch your chat while we are trying to catch up.
Finally, thanks
Just hold the chat for now guys. Please understand it
unable to follow this instruction will result in a 1h mute
Bro they might be cheated but playing conditions were same, so it was your fault to underestimate them
Oh no here comes 15 min slo-mo 😱
_StephenHawking76#3276 was muted
as i said, hold chat for now
apparently "stop arguing" is a hard command to obey
That reminds me, must play Queen’s ‘Hammer to fall’ for tonight’s opening music
DanielSXB#1531 has been warned.
_>
73#9238 was muted
Next game we had 7 and we took it srsly. Still doesn’t change the fact we played against players who we weren’t supposed to be matched against. So it wasn’t a fair match up in any way.
delete the server if arguing is forbidden, also why would you abuse members and mute them or warn them?
@urban river people are free to discuss things, as long as they can stay civil and follow server rules
since that seems impossible for some, mutes and bans happen
and dragging in situations that have absolutely nothing to do with blitz and that are politically heavily loaded is part of the things that are not okay
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Me too broo🍿
i had a dream about tolyan today 🥰
👨🏿❤️👨🏿
As opposed to you normal dreams of Happy & …..
also thinking abt something, I get why you got that role but why are the others relevant moderators? For example Raikkonen used to ban so much for no reason, and I’m not pointing the extra blitz stuff, some players would just say "that new map doesn’t fit Cw" and some random mod would just ban him
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guess i'm not the simp king after all
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Thanks!
Can someone give me a summary of what's going on
We were supposed to be matched up against players who’s skill level was on a similar level to their stats. We played against a way better team, only because they cheated, how is this fair?
if you want, we can talk about that in dm, but that's not really a subject for in here
Eu drama
Au drama about rigging the tournament for LGN team)
Wym rigged 💀
Aim bot
Now I am curious, what will happen to this team (Haha) today? Will they be just afk and won’t play the tournament or will they be deleted from the tournament completely?
Honestly speaking engy is right lol, they weren't supposed to play at all
life is good life is great

From what i can see their match today is still scheduled, so prob an afk team
Normal day in world of tanks
as great as Tolyan?
There werent any "underestimation" on that occasion.
We know for a FACT, that players which had stats like those accounts simply CAN NOT win agaisnt us. Its ez to understand. We know that top 12+ aint 40wr players that magically got skilled in game and won tournaments. Those are all 60/70wr skillful players.
Have u guys ever heard about "Trojan Horse"?
Thats exactly what happened in that situation.
- we didnt played 6 cuz we underestimated them, we just had an issue with one of our members.
I still wonder who put the "simp" in my name after seeing all of you do this🤣
that's actually the 2nd time i do it ahahah
Alpha_eO#9999 was muted
he managed to scroll up so far to reply to that but he didn't read the instruction to stop the discussion on that topic
1/2(noir)#6208 was muted
mods🍿
ofc not idiot, nothing is, never ask this question again
sorry lord, forgive me
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language 😠
great to see u finally joined toylan club homie @patent quartz
Dear Europeans, please give us the indepth explanation the NA server oh so desperately needs. We are struggling to understand what is going on with the great European region (again).
Nikkolade#2710 was banned
Bruh
that's a very big nope.
Not Niko 😅
I adore Niko, but that's a very big nope
better late than never, right?
he is friends with lego , he wasnt serious ofc ...
Wdym?
@thorn shale probably not but I swear this looks something worth knowing 😂
my fellow american, we are no longer allowed to discuss this topic any further, hopefully you will understand the limits that have been set to us regarding the answer you're looking for
I've never met that man in my life 👀
that was a targeted hate message bro
then it should be fine if i ban him then?
with what reason?
Ban Button on fire tonight
Well I guess? But the poor dude is getting banned cause someone think he is someone else lmao
Holds up the obviously fake mod guidelines book
Anything i find inside here
more than mine on SNTY at least
Quite actually, the mod getting offended when it’s not even pointed at them
Seems they enjoy it a bit too much
cringe momento i must say
Tolyan be like, what happened in here
Tolyan see +300 message XD
Ban toylan?
Here she is the mighty tolyan 🐈⬛🐈⬛
Should of been an image of a battlefield in the background ngl
there are at least 2 other Dragon Kriegs (and other variable mispellings) on this server, there's no point trying to clean them up since it's just gonna be endless whack a mole
Tolyan kitty
i mean getting banned myself?
Hf finding what's relevant in that conversation
hey tolyan, I wanted to talk with you about the number of repeat maps we had on NA last night, can u accept friend request so I can DM u?
@unkempt quartz gt2rs >>
Yes, but someone cough @spityy made me put that pfp
Hey tolyan i want to talk about the weather
Hey tolyan i want to talk about types of trees
I shall ban him for that, how dare he
atm i'm trying to eat a fish (real cat u know), this back is more suitable
Take it off so x)
hi dear
Provide a better one
Why does that cat look like a certain Austrian painter ?
maybe about type71
100% me now
You deserve world and not a fish from a swamp
Dogs > cats
Ban
how's the weather
ban and no cups
XDDD
Im allergic to cats, no offense
Pls no 😂
If you still love dogs probably yes
so am i, and still got 5 of those...
last night every team had to play this bracket on NA:
3 new bay games (Semifinals upper bracket, Semifinals lower bracket, Finals lower bracket)
2 faust games (Finals lower bracket, Grand finals upper bracket)
normandy 3 times (tiebreaker for grand finals upper bracket, finals upper bracket, and semifinals upper bracket
winter malinovka twice, (Grand finals upper bracket, Semifinals lower bracket)
molendijk, fort despair, and yukon were the only three non repeat maps
molendijk was a tiebreaker
there were more repeat maps than there were unique maps
Can I ask how in the actual heck are maps selected for tournaments?
^
random
Bruh
if ur not in tolyan club ur opinion is invalid (cant enter if u hate cats)
^
or allergic to cats
Ok i joined now XD
at least it's better than castilla and normandy in the same game 👀
good boy
Give keys
@opaque heart how does one get into your club?
then can we please do something about this? because that's absurd, we have 22 tournament legal maps at T10 (not including himmelsdorf and canyon because wg likes to randomly throw those in for no reason) we shouldn't have to play on the same 4 for an entire 5 combined lower and upper bracket sets. We literally used 1/4 of the total maps available last night, which is outrageous. Especially when some of us are being livestreamed and everyone else in the group can see our strats.
Hello im Gabriel and I love cats and tolyan best mod
I mean, as mod I have to rectify that unfortunately their opinion is still valid, but as crazy cat lady in waiting, I feel the sentiment 😂
I dont see tolyan club amaunet, sorry didnt read
I am not the owner... 
Crying 😭
the last time I added a cause to my name I started a riot and WG didn't like it 😂
should we accept this fellow american? @cyan timber
Im the CEO of tolyan club!!! Anyone can join if:
- you simp for tolyan daily
- you love cats
- you add [tolyan club] to your name
- you like every tweet tolyan makes https://twitter.com/tolyan_blitz
the god of randomness is angry with you for some mistakes ... I will give the information to development
This is the only cause that matters
the easiest way to fix the problem would be for the system to be unable to pick maps it has already chosen.
that'd be a very nice thing, tbh
Can I join your clan
Can mods join the club i wonder?
also, about 2-3 years ago my team had to fight PURPL's second team, and then the next set that day was against PURPL's main team on the exact same maps and tiebreaker as the first set. needless to say, we got rolled. the fact the underlying issue hasn't been fixed for over 3 years is insane
Ask our mighty leader kim aka @cyan timber
Yes we need some mods for when we take over the server in the tolyan revolution
I’m sorry I only have white wr I hope this is not an issue
We will open TOLYN clan and join season tournaments? @cyan timber
dont spoil our plans !!!
there we go.
Now where's the club ad post so i can pin it
Tolyan clan great idea sorry apa
better?
lower case t
it's a name. Should be a capital
^^
@cedar parrot this is our ad, impossible to refuse
tolyan spells it with a lower case t, it should be [name] club where name is a variable filled by in this case the subject of the club which is tolyan spelt tolyan without an upper case t
I hope the next one that will join the tolyan club will be Alexandra
you are the first mortal to ever be pinned congrats @cyan timber
🥰 i will make this server great again
hmm good point.. but my grammar police heart is struggling to accept this 😂
@opaque heart join tolyan club
Can this one go as proof of love to cats?)
Do members of tolyan club get extra keys?
I got like 200 keys last time, so maybe if the system doesn't break again
but then why not have the upper case C as an organisation usually have capitals for every word of the name excluding mini words such as “and” “to”, so by having [Tolyan club] you are not consistent so you contradict yourself
accepted
- English only on server.
- Change your name to something taggable

- add [tolyan club]
Done
just edit it in to the ad
very nice cat yes welcome
𝕃𝕃𝕀𝕠𝕂𝕠𝕁𝕀𝕒𝔻ℍ𝕓𝕀𝕦_𝕄𝕒𝕁𝕀𝕓𝟜𝕦𝕜💕 its taggable just click on the name
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its a true honour, its like the first guy stepping on the moon. Truly a historical moment
i can probably write a script to choose maps without repeating, in about 20 minutes. the value added by this small change would be great for players and viewers alike
The maus is not an easy tank to play especially in tournaments. It requires quick and decisive reactions since it’s not fast enough to adjust for any misplays in positioning. In addition to that, it requires extreme patience since the tank is quite susceptible to early game bleeding against the quality players found in comp since the tank can’t sit hull down and attempt to hold a firing line with impunity like most meta heavy tanks can. In a brawl it becomes easier but that’s only half the battle.
I do agree with Jtag. This season has been very weird because ever since day one, the maps have been almost the same. I'm frustrated about it because it's not really fun to play the same stuff every set. I don't really care about strats or counters, it's just very blend if it makes any sense
why has Niko been banned?
@opaque heart do you approve my kitty
agreed Group
he said some naughty words towards you lego the goat
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he thinks maus is just about "armor" and doesn't require skill to make enemies bounce, he doesn't know this tank and that's why he's saying that, no worries
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Cat supremacy
White kitty 😍
join the club!
I don't see a cat? just a weird chair
It gets penned so easily nowadays. I miss the old times where I'd just yolo in on Fort Despair in B cap and stay alive for 4 minutes straight. But ya, the tank requires a lot of skill and that guy does not know anything
Sorry lol it seems I got a tad heated
I know right, sometimes it goes white and black I don’t know why…
😂😂
This reminds me of the park i was in earlier that had over 20 kitties which I obviously pet and hugged, couldn’t take a pic of all of them gathered because i was walking around
it's more than that, but the thing is it's just like having 0.5 gun instead of 1, the only thing tank has is high armor numbers, no mobility, no gun, but this tank will never be the focus inside of a brawl and blocking opponents with it is really the key to make good use of it nowadays, you can block entire hallways by just going sideways and your gun is so high above the ground you can just shoot above anyone regardless of them trying to block you
Uhm
Guys did i lose something? 👀😅😂😂😂
I demand a cat channel. @opaque heart
+1
It’s always fun to push around and bully the enemy “heavy” tanks during a brawl but getting there can be a challenge
i demand a tolyan club channel, this is the first step of our revolution + role
you do have to apply for that to wg. not in our hands
You stole my idea 😡
@elder coral send them the clip of you bullying the is4
Which one? I have many
shut up woman dont talk to me if u are not in tolyan club + respect ur CEO
Jazda ze smieciara
English only on server
Look vent again someone stole idea from bps ekhm bpc ekhm
no it's only useful in close combat maps, but it's basically the only tank with which you can just push other heavies around and prevent them from shooting certain teammates, you can basically deny focus fire by forcing someone to shoot you instead of one of your allies
uni was 2nd person that put tolyan club after me so he can be CFO @vale helm
Any of them work tbh, maybe even the one where you pushed around an rvg e5 the entire game back in spring '21
@remote basin found her twins
Cute
Aight gimme a bit I have to back and watch a few recordings
unbelievable
"A few"
it's only a challenge on big maps, on smaller maps you can just send a maus down the middle part of the map and he'll be in reach of any side of the map you want to do something on, it just has a small area of effect but is very usefull if full hp upon making a move
the only thing you gotta keep in mind is that in maus the only thing that matters is your hp
just all of the ones where i played the Maus
Sorry guys for this stupid question but
if i change more than Two times the clans during the season...
Is there the opportunity that i Will get a ban?
no, because changing clan in between the qualifiers isn't forbiden
Just make sure to join a clan you like for pys 4 so that you get the tickets
Ok thank you... Because many Clans in these days doubt to continue to play this season... And i would avoid such violation 😂
I mean... Is already enough to me to get Top32 HAHAHA, i didnt excpet so many Russian Clans "invading" the ranking
the most clever player in blitz:
also @opaque heart just thought about this but do you think there's a way we could have our tournament winrate shown somewhere on our in-game profile?
I will add to the notes and clarify
alright thank you for the answer boss
what team should i watch today?
"mine" spam incoming
You should watch the ANGLE clan on NA, that’s my favorite clan!!!!
Ouch
not chomp? feel some joke
You can join but be aware that Iod1ne_ might kiss you. (He swings both ways)
Just watch qu1ck
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well since nobody answered i'm goona say it... MINE!
thanks sp1t, i appreciate it 🥲
they're all scared to disapoint you, we know we wont be disapointing 🫡
@opaque heart if you join CHOMPs tournament team for PYS #3 you will be rewarded with a empty paint bucket and dirty socks !
No...I just don't have one 🥹
You mean Franz, the chap who did my ceiling?
so you already got bored of my team ? 😔
i'm just trying to watch different teams everyday...
Tournament winrate would be great addition for sure
Id like to see medals/ seasonal avatars for winners of tournaments as well
watch PONDA on NA
@opaque heart dont watch SNTY, thats me 😱
When you don't want to watch any, pick mine!
im joking its fine boss 🫡
Yes ofc 👀
oh my
now we need to fight for the team
competitive for the competitive team 👀😂
Droodles said a word that very much offended me. I hope something will be done about this soon!
cant watch as Im starting stream 😦
LOL
here is a simple program I wrote to choose maps without repeating. if you can set maps manually, maybe this will be useful to you?
not sure how much programming you know. but you can edit the configuration by adding and changing the "gamesPerMatch" variables
@opaque heart
that would be a good thing to add in on top pf the random battles medals, but first of all would be great to have the tournament winrate since it's been a while since tournament have started and it's probably the only stats which we haven't had a clear info about, in 7 years of tournaments existing
+1
+1
@tawdry inlet cmon why would you run a type 71...how boring. You're playing against low level players right? I challenge you to take the leopard 1 next battle, best tourney tank 
i will say it again.
I farm the exp to get the level 40 xd, but i guess i’ll take leo1 next ok
Ahahaha, fair enough. Dam, that's nice of you, thanks. Start the leo 1 meta, get top dmg 🥲🙏
But I'll play it on 2nd game, I don't wanna throw for nothing
Yeah that's reasonable. I mean do what your team wants lol, I just thought it would be really neat. Leo 1 shouldn't be too bad though.
I would play it but dasilva is a tyrant leader 🤣
😂😂😂 well it's all about the win after all. Good on spitfire playing maus though 
Ahaha if I would've played leo that might've been really bad
found this gem
Yes lol. Although you would have gone with Sheri, so wouldn't have gotten rushed and died early lol. Bad luck though
When was this? I don't remember
Ahahaha those games were really funny, tacos being chased by double lt and then chasing them back 😂, our vc is just full on monkey noise
a legend
Hahaha, it did look pretty fun. Your opponent seems to like clumping all their types together with no map control, but not pushing effectively with them 😬. I love the Sheri and T 22 med combo though. And E5, since when LOL. I probably shouldn't be pinging you when youre preparing for battle lol.
M7 is our e5 player till January 2035, it’s written in his contract xd
😂 I hope so 🤞
just a random scrim. i happened to get shot 3 times while crossing to get to where i was supposed to go
That camo looks hot on Maus wow…. 🤩
Shot 3 times like @rocky crystal
3-4 people singing nyan cat in our vc it's sooo dumb help me 😂
I prefer that than Baby Shark
send help pls...
Haha, what the heck even is that. @patent quartz I see you took Maus 👀 weren't you saying earlier you're gonna revive maus meta
Reject humanity, embrace Maus Supremacy
Sounds good to me 👌, take a leopard 1 next time though 😈
My maus is 100% meta, my team just keeps it as a trump card bcs it's auto win
Here we don’t troll
I wasn't trolling...just realised you're the team leader. Well I said underneath that ofc winning is the important part, you guys can and will do what you like. I still would love to see the Leo in a tourney, I guess teams are too good for that risk at this stage. But i mean you did have an E5 so it's not an impossible idea.
@patent quartz indeed lol. Well HP is of course incredibly useful when used effectively. And the enemy types don't have great dpm, I'm guessing they were also firing prammo
most of the time yeah
Sorry about the little rant in my stream earlier, for all those watching, but couldnt help it.
❤️
boraaaa
this is exactly what they are saying although this doesnt make any sense. they lost, but because of the transfer of accounts the battles were not fair. they lost and a transfer of accounts doesnt make this loss unfair. the fact that its against the rules still doesnt make it unfair. they dont have any advantage in battle, so how does this make it unfair? just because its against the rules, they still lost in a fair battle...
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nao
For real man, I got banned for saying “Mexican” once and I never understood why, I pray to allah he will give me the answer one day
Imagine lying about rigging in pys
I’ve seen this somewhere before
We live and learn ✌️
Exactly
hahahahhahaha
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Bora LuluVasco❤🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
English only, please, on this server @floral latch
Hello
😂
Poor droodles lol
Hell naw
@copper ore When do I update the Streamers Tournament assessment?
I'm curious to know how many points LuluVasco do Brasil has.
Regarding the current score
you'd better ask @twin pelican in the #1026432746853240903 👀
Well the thing is we can’t even see what’s happening in that channel
Based
Привет
@copper ore
anyway, Nikki is the one who's responsible for this activity
not sure i can help a lot here

play tourneys and use bear avatar for ratings pls
@copper ore My friend, I'm not allowed to see the history, or write in this text channel, help me hahaha.
Maybe I need some position or access
She just said she can't help and to ask the other guy
you're right, my bad, this channel is for participants
Nikki will create a channel to discuss this activity and intermediate results, as far as i know, will be posted in #1026433190543507487
Have you had dinner yet?
you want to invite me to dinner?
Yes exactly 😆
You probably have my IP address so u can find me. it'll be ready in an hour
You can come too 😉
@copper ore when you join [tolyan club] ?
i can't, my heart belongs to Ra1d club
👀
I'll put her in the basement don't worry
call this 911 pls
With tournament cash rewards, yeah of course
Lol
then this one
XD
Tolyan will kick me from this chat soon
No tourney rewards for this guy
Tolyan I think that’s an abuse of powe
It just seems this way to you
I will report this to the authorities
Putting someone in the basement is just abuse
Well for some it’s something else ..
Then organise Abused by tourney manager club?
Next season we will have less rewards since toylan and Alexandra will use them to buy Porsches
aha aha
that's what we will buy
It's fine my clan isn't doing it anyway
I don’t think a tiger P will go as fast as a 911
Maybe u meant it?
Thats a cool car
My basement isn't bad, in fact it's bigger than most people's sitting rooms.
Is this an eggscuse?
No, my basement is fully furnished, she won't even be alone. what more could she want?
I need to be abused by momma Tolyan first
Won't be alone? Do you put people there often?
If you come round I can put you in the basement with her
@tired oracle cats of course 🥰
Should we call 911
Is this a club of players abused by tourney managers?
I have fur allergy so no
Should I open the club abused by tourney players
Well mostly cats. I make exceptions, I can put you in attic away from fur?
I get sick a lot so I need to constantly have a supply of treatments
I can "treat" you 😈
Anyway I decline your offer also major offtopic
Why don't y'all just come round my house, I'm sure I have enough cereal, and a big enough basement.
No, we should call 918 instead

Maybe put 918 in tournaments rewards?
I suggest you re"treat" right now
Put a date with tolyan/Alexandra in tournament rewards
The golden ticket
I’m ready to drink beer/lemonade with top 1 Blitz Ultimate Cup (in Vilnius)
I've just decided to enter the tournament
Mhm, will try to perform then
Cbtenjoyer#9509 has been warned.
Thanks
Nop here we support zlobina and I have 6k rating
The bzzz club ?
Vab00l
And I want a new eagle avatar
I have to put bear avatar on after that..it's just....to..cute..🥹
when shop tank >> Löwe ???
You have to play 3 PYS to get rewards correct ?
Yes
can I ask a question now for the live broadcast will give the containers of the fan?
......
Please create a ticket.
its not a matter of chatban
our team got dmed by them bcs we won, and we received a lot of insults
992 turbo s 🦦
How about you & me
We all get messages of insults after the game (pys 3)
Maybe reaching out to WG guys in PMs would help
But certainly not shaming them here
Сосо
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always
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Congrats to W1N - what a show! Big thanks to PWNZ & EG for giving us some great games. Unlucky Lowen, clearly having internet issues but great sports about it nonetheless 🙂
next time leave the sauna earlier!
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Why do you keep forgetting that English is the only allowed chat language? @thorn shale
So in the season description its talk about the russian teams that have more russian team than EU did i may think they will get disqualified from the season and the top 19 team will up to top 16???
🦍
Which teams are expected to be disqualified? I mean does anyone know which teams out of actual top 1-16 and 16-32 are probably violating this rule?
I don’t think this will move any other teams up the leaderboard though
You mean that teams from t32 won't replace disqualified teams? Does anyone know anything about this case?
It seems like they will check the teams already before the games in t8 and t16, if so, then there will be no shift of teams.
"after all Qualifying tournaments"
in the information from the Russian-language discord server it is written that the teams are checked before the matches, and it will be very problematic to move the teams after registration
P.s use a translator, I'm too lazy to translate it😙
@opaque heart Hi, is there any info you could give us or explain us how it is working? (8 last messages are related to the topic)
From what is written on your screenshot I assume they won’t be replaced. And also, as I understand that goes to top 16 teams only.
Maybe they just haven’t changed that in a while
Is there any good prizes in challengers?
Last year ttt replaced rekem in top16 so idk if they will put teams below in.
Concept 1b 
Prizes for challengers are better than prizes for top5-8 which is funny if nothing had changed
Free xp
That's top32
Does anyone know if you’re able to get top 16 rewards if you join a top 16 team (without your previous team qualifying for it) for the final challengers tourney? Basically jumping from a top 32 team to a top 16 before challengers
I think it's allowed and you can do it, but make sure you register with that top16 team for last PYS and be in clan before tickets for Challengers are sent, can't remember perfectly but surely isn't prohibited
@opaque heart my team registration just closed and it didn’t register. Can you help?
Clan name was -NOX- on NA. My phone wouldn’t let me register and I’m at work. Is there any way you can register us? I’d hate to miss PYS 3 which starts in an hour.
whalelegs (my username) was the captain.
Please help 🙏
Team name was APXN1Fans
Actually apparently my clan made a new team without me because it didn’t work. Thank you for any effort already made looking into it.
KingOfHill#7127 was muted
Why are the cup rewards exponentially increasing with each PYS?
Gives players hope for a top8 since the last tournament is the most important, so they play it till the end, instead of stopping after the 3rd one because they think they can't get enough cups, thats what would make the most sense
Is there any link explaining how the lower echelon tournament will be held? Like how the stages and seeding enemies will look
u mean challenger stage?
https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/content/eu-challengers-regulations/
@cyan timber thx fake moderator
u dont have permission for bzz club, change please
No way, raccoons are the best, raccoons go ahead! 🦝
😠
🦝🦝🦝🦝
Bro Im proud of u
No respect in this house
time to clean the house
Yes kick bear fans xd
🐈 💯
It means I should quit
@regal frost nice avatar 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 Weak is Tolyan Club, Class is BZZZ Club ⚔️⚔️⚔️
🦝 🦝
I love this picture
💫💫💫
Ok. Tolyan will keep silence from now
But raccoons are closer to cats than bears ;((
Fact
Bears eat honey I can’t accept that 🐝😤
time to switch sides
Raccoons are so cute, I want a striped raccoon home 🦝
i have been forced to use the racoon by my own leader, dictatorship has taken the lead among our clan
i could've used Loca's bear but nah i was forced to use it by our dictator
Ouin ouin poor baby he can’t play a battle without loca avatar
loyal to loca
That’s why u are in APA
i was last man standing, i was forced...
foks made loca die!!
they are down bad, accepting anyone into the clan these days... 😔
Ah
why is full hp ammo rack allowed in comp
thanks wg for putting 2 top 8 teams in one group for day 1 btw :3
If only NA had more teams this wouldn't happen 😦
yet they put two top 16 teams together, who could have been paired with said top 8
Is it "strongest vs weakest" seeding ?
also whats with the 3k cup difference tonight between 1st and 2nd, thats actually so badly thought out
The cup gaps and cup rewards increase each PYS to motivate teams that are “low” to make a comeback
I have motivation now 💀 😭
Same 🤓
o7
Fr
i have motivation to stay in top 128
That’s moronic it screws over other teams in the process.
I’m not against the premise tbh but the cup jumps are a lil overboard
Like the gap between 1st and 2nd place cups is crazy
^
I like how we didn't play the same map 3 times today
1k cups and 2-4 is seperated by less lmao
Did you not see the separations today
Nah i only looked the first day and determined it was ridiculous
Check out the 4th PYS:
Day 1:
- 8137
- 4070
- 2038
- 1020
Day 2: - 7060
- 3531
- 1768
- 885
Gets halved every placement
Mean while eu 6 teams tied at 1st place 😶🌫️
@opaque heart Hello, should we have to play 3 PYS to get rewards like the spring season?
I think tolyan died because of being too famous
Yes u have to
She is legendary but even she has to sleep at some point 😂
Legends don't need to sleep 🤣
How much players out of the team creators clan can be in the PYS team?
What
I think i saw a team with 2 players in the team A, 1 player was from clan B and one player was clanless. And i think it was during the battle
Impossible?
Maybe i should change my meds
Does anyone know what is stopping the WG from introducing the league system in seasons? With the current number of teams in the EU, there could be even 5 leagues of 8-10 teams each.
Half of the season is occupied by qualifying in which the outcome of most battles is known in advance. We are after 3 qualifying tournaments, and the first 6 teams have a full set of wins, because they do not match each other and they easily win with the weaker ones. The first 2 days are a complete joke and a waste of time.
A system in which a clan is assigned to a league and 2 are relegated and 2 are promoted would be more interesting to watch and play and fairer, WR would cease to matter. Once again, teams that play well but with poor seeding such as -W1N- are disadvantaged.
wanna have better seeding? win more random battles🤔
Xd
Yes indeed I think I'll do a reroll.
And fill my team with them
Id love to see one day that top4 teams from previous season get direct invite for the next season, perhaps not top4 but finalists at least
Honestly this qualification system is so bad, you can lose 1 game and you are basically out if no one else makes a mistake
I disagree with you. I dont see why teams with already good seeding should get advantage like that.
- You dont think winners should get some sort of advantage?
2)it would remove them from qualifications =>better chance for teams to actually compete and not get screwed over
Problem is theres too many teams in third day
The whole qualification system needs a rework, no doubt about it
+1, Teams that are in top16 or top8 just because they have good WR are teams that don't really deserve their position.
It s*cks that accounts with under 10k battles just with very boosted winrate can make your way to top16 very easy.. thats why seeding dont work.
well snty doesn’t have top winrate but still they manage to perform good
Raid is top8 rn with not that good wr as well I think
Some teams always get a very easy group on the 3rd day in all PYSs and this is sad.
There are always groups with just no name teams with not even good wr while other top8 contestants need to battle between themselves
Yes, but some teams always get a very easy group, so they stay in the top16 top8.
Bruh we had 65% and we were top 20 in the seeding. With more than 30 groups with fought against BPS- and RA1D
And teams like -W1N- can't get the good position they deserve
Just make your own team with 8 rerolls that's it @pastel vapor stop complain 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
7 rerolls only are needed
Whatever, so you can prove your irl friends u r strong in a tank game 😎
Imagine flexing to someone that don’t even play the game
Ye but who cares as long as you get your well deserved top8/16 by wr abusing


Tolyan answered these questions on fugit stream, what if team will disband or players will change? (Also with invitations team could sell spots much easier)
Well of course there would have to be some sort of condition where the teams must remain the same or something.
I know that is kinda hard to imagine in blitz but...
attentive legend
When tolyan speaks, I listen.
I left the stream after the answer for "why is type still op as it is " was "we have to innovate the meta or we would be playing is4s for years" well ye, adding more and more broken tanks definitely helps the game, because why not rebalance the old tanks which should get some love as well or weren't we supposed to get such update? I nearly forgot that patton got its top speed upped by 1, my bad
All and all I love the idea where community can ask directly wg employees but answers like that piss me off
Also I understand that neither of Alexandra and Tolylan have probably nothing to do with balance but I'd expect an answer which actually answers the question.
I’m looking forward to the m48’s improved armor profile tho
Keep dreaming
We better see Patton meta 🥰
Patton Is Next
wait, so type 71 was made so the IS-4 is no longer comp meta? ouch
Hurt my soul a bit as well
it's situational, on bigger and more open maps the type is way better, on small and close combat maps the IS4 is underrated and will perform better than the Type
Tbf that was the 1st time we had done a stream like that & it was kind of pulled together at short notice. Personally I’d like to do more streams like that, not too often but at reasonable intervals & be better planned with main questions submitted in advance so as to allow for more in-depth feedback. Obviously that still requires others to be able to commit, like peeps from WG for it to work
kinda weird eg- lost against -w1n-
Such a system would increase their longevity, or at least encourage the best players to play in teams from 1/2 league instead of creating new clans.
Teams from top4 usually had no problem in qualifying (only now, after the influx of players from Russia to the server, such an option exists), the point is that they are playing a lot of pointless battles with opponents of 50% of WR in qualifying and they are only 2/3 difficult and important matches during qualifying. It's not interesting to play or watch, and it's half the season.
You are right, i think the system would work if we had less teams and good teams would actually play against each other
Now everyone has basically 100% wr and the top8 will be decided by 1 lost match
Yes, it's good that a lot of new and strong teams have emerged, but you also need a new system in response to that. I hope we can do something about it, it would be nice if top clans would support this idea.
I believe wg knows about the issues, its disappointing that we have to face such problem in the biggest season of the year but what can we do..
Tournaments could become more attractive: 10 teams in the league, each game with every 2x bo7 and 9 tournament days are enough to settle the season. Every game is balanced and the result is the fairest.
But that then prevents other lessor clans from taking part does it not? The whole idea of tours is to be like a kind of ‘open’ available to everyone regardless. I would argue that is still a requirement as the tour scene needs growth not restraint
This however I whole heartedly agree with
Main league for the best teams and then open qualifying tournaments for all with a spot in the league next season as a reward
I’ve been discussing something like this with others, like N90. Leagues per se will be difficult due to clans coming & going but maybe ‘bonus’ seeding points for past & current performance could be considered, up to a cap & minus points for no previous performance
Seeding should work that it counts only tourney games winrate. Not random battles.
Thats how franchising works in valorant
The League system is the only incentive for players and clans to stick together. There could be a maximum amount of players a team could change every season to maintain their spot in the league
I’m not against leagues at all, just mindful of people then moaning about how unfair it is
I think its more fair than this system we have now
What if player started in a bad clan? He would have ruined wr as well. There would have to be some recent wr system then and what if someone plays normal tournaments against not great players and some play only the main seasonal ones?
But then there should be a Major & Minor League, the teams that fight for a spot in Major League all get invitations to play the Minor League, otherwise decent teams are gonna die cause they have no tournaments or anything to do meanwhile
It’s a matter of priorities. Whether tournaments should prioritize the majority of the playerbase that gets knocked out in the first round or should it be more oriented around the top 10 teams that get streamed and bring popularity to tournaments
Anyone want to do tournament?
Blitz EPL
It’s both however tbf. In order to increase sponsorship you need to generate a lot of interest especially viewing figures. That means you need to try appeal to more than just the top teams tbf. However, if there was a way to take the current ‘Echelons’ and make those provisional leagues then base initial seeding on that, maybe that could be a start? That obviously means clans not list past Top 32 become ‘unseeded’ so to speak but have the same chance to progress. You can then use that for each major tour season & possibly add other tours, like season coin or such to the mix.
I think you will find that WG is happy to consider reasonable suggestions, as long as they do not restrict growth, are not intended to be exclusive, grants an opportunity for anyone to participate and can be rolled out across all servers. However, it’s needs to be Co-ordinated and not suggestions thrown at them from all different directions. I know there are many interested parties in this so maybe if we could Co-ordinate maybe that would help?
In my opinion the seeding we had, i mean the format, in spring season with 1k battle was ok. I believe that the issue is the fact that if you want achieve better positions you need a better wr, that's why ppl spam rerolls and outplay better teams but whith less wr. That's like a reference to what's going on right now with VE1L, W1N, LGN and othet team like IMM0R (all because u need a bad day and you basically throw the whole effort you have put for months in training etc).
Talking about the past we had SPRTA and again VE1L again.
So i believe a good solutions is take that format as main one and work on that by increasing the number of battles required at tier 10 in order to make kinda useless the bost that rerolls give (as someone else suggested). So i think - and let me know - if it's a good idea to like increase the number of battles necessary to at least 5000, or even 10.000.
For the lowest league, there would be a qualification
During the season, there should be no such option, for the season you register for the final tournament of professionals, because it would take a similar time, maybe a bit longer. Changes in the teams may be arbitrary between seasons
I just want to cut back on the number of pointless beginner battles against teams fighting for victory in the season, and the league is the most attractive and fair format. All the best teams can compete against each other.
But then most complain because they end up battling each other too soon - catch 22 really
It would be nice to see like prequalifications or something for teams below ~55wr (more less)
Players even of top32 teams are usually highly unmotivated to Play against these 40 and 50wr teams, and losing a battle is possible only when you /have tech issues/are trolling/get ammoracked/not having 7 players or even 5 players.
I know top32 teams arent as good as these top clans but also for us IT is kinda a waste of time
So, how do you determine a top32 team? By getting in top32. It will not change
Don’t accept that tbh. There are some very good teams currently languishing in ‘top 32’ my clan VE1L being one of them. To say we ain’t as good is rather a presumption considering our past record of consistent top 8
I meant less known and new clans like mine, dont worry
Yes, really good teams came in 3 PYS
Even if you are a good team, it doesn't work if the matchmaking/game doesn't give you a chance to top16/8
There could be pys for teams above 55wr (more less), and team under 55 that will prove they are able to teamplay and shot a Tiny bit
Less go make rerolls
But this is the thing, at the end of the day it’s all about performance. Does it matter if Jesuz is not well known? No not 1 little bit. What matters is having a seeding that reflects performance rather than WR that can be manipulated - as some point out.
LGN lost to a 42% wr team, controversially I agree, but had that team rolled out against a lessor team then the controversy wouldn’t have been identified
At least 1k battles or more needed, right? And some worse players are not even thinking about creating rerolls because they don't care too much about the same usually
Objectiv : having 30% wr to win all pys again new players teams
Not general battle for wr need min 1k Tier10 battle but for now...
ye just go with a team made by rerolls if you want have fun
Only for trollers, they won't harm any good team by this like LGN. but then smaller teams under certain wr could be affected
Every season has its controversy & no matter what is done there will always be loop holes & complaints. This season was always set to be tricky because the status quo has been changed due to the migration.
yes ofc as long as rerolls with 30 battles at tier 10 and 100% wr are allowed to play. Cut of rerolls ---> better seeding
what do you think is a good way to gauge performance?
They did that only because they had a big chance to meet a high WR team (so their competitors) becaue of having 42wr
I guess there won't be much low wr troll teams then, because the profits will be ultra low for the trollers (only toxic fun). And only t32 or below teams would actually try to do that to get profits, but it would be much less affecting the top teams
Generally we would make the problem gone to lower wr teams to deal with, so there won't be big dramas,
The bigger team, the bigger drama
Personally I truly believe that clans should have recognition of past results . Why treat each season as a stand alone whereby the winners of the previous season aren’t even deemed ‘defending champions’? Aside from that during every season CP% is shown & currently that is de facto seeding the positions of the team. That is what I consider ‘performance’
Although there is a migration from the CIS server, some teams are violating every season, blocking the way of a European team and maybe destroying their hopes, WG's response is only a ban for the season. If people who do this constantly don't get a permanent ban, they will continue to do it every season.
You have seen a marked change in WG’s efforts on combatting this. Tolyan seems to work 24/7 on assessing violations & taking action very early, much earlier than past seasons
That would be great especially for those top clans who've been in basically every season, but will there be enough clans who haven't taken part in any other seasons to compete? I mean I don't have the statistics, and I'm not exactly a tournament player either but I don't think very many clans enter the competitive scene all of a sudden
New teams coming in would effectively have the same chance they have now, but still face ‘strongest to weakest’ principle. Yes they would unseeded but they would at least have the opportunity to progress without relying on WR
Fair enough, since I never saw winrate that can be easily manipulated to be a good measure of anybody's performance
Even if it works 24/7, if there are constant violations, the result should be a permanent ban. It is sad to give up hope of a European team every season. By permanent ban I mean, for example, if a player or clan commits violations every season, the members of that team will be banned from IP or Device and will not be able to enter tournaments in any team again. Apparently the in-game ban can't stop it
Maybe this is something WG are working towards eventually, I don’t know. What I do know is that I don’t think the current rules allow for an IP or permanent tour ban, as in ALL tours other than the one the violation related to
If so, goodbye to the hopes of a European team every season. 🤣🤣
Loop holes will always be found by those willing to find them. No system is perfect
I think the punishment should be something more serious, especially since there seem to be a ton of violations every season despite the bans
Violations should not be recovered so quickly.
Do you mean something like a x amount of months before one can appeal?
Yes
I think you will find most violations are assessed solely by Tolyan across all 3 servers. That’s like somewhere in the region of close to 5k players across all the servers. Not exactly an easy job
😂
You get banned->you go to support to say sorry->ban is gone
Nice
When -1- banned. I saw the clan in the training room on the day XD
@opaque heart hey will the 907 be added in the shop anytime soon?
Tolyan only tourney manager
She is our friend too
No weekly tournaments is killing the game again WG
Aaaugh
there's been a lot of writting here oh my
You can't expect regular tournaments when the season began 🤣
Most of which are tablet only...and not quite the same thing is it. They are way fewer and far between too - so maybe stop being a poop dude
Im just telling you, that the main focus is pro season right now as its the main even for the comp scene.
that's a great answer. thank you. Just be nicer and less mocking next time - after all it's a public server 🙂
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Rerolles like some top wr randoms clans
#important-about-tourneys message
@analog osprey this 30% accounts joined clan before register in tournament. No way leaders of quick didn’t know some random will make team from their clantag
We have to kick more teams the first day. Groups of 4 teams I think it’s not too much. Maybe 8/16 teams and remove lower bracket.
That would result in top 8 clans being in one group and knocked out in the first stage ( I mean this can happen randomly in only one tournament and it will be enough already)
@past island right now the first and 2nd days, top16 teams don’t have greats opponents so we could clean the first day these “average” teams instead of the 2 days we have right now
But I understand what u meant. I also had this problem during the last pys system
I understand what you propose. I think that the League system. With an open qualification with 2 teams proceeding to the top league of 10 teams and by the end of this top 10 teams league 2 are relegated, would be the best option.
I mean, this would make the players stick with the same clan (hence increasing longevity of clans), give clans an opportunity to invite top players in their teams because they have the spot in this league and other players still having a chance to get to that top 10 clans league
I mean, this would also bring some kind of transfers of players between clans
U know 50% of top teams with a goal, disband the next day if they don’t achieve this goal, so idk.
VE1L for example, we most likely have 2 players leaving because it's 'underneath their dignity' to play lower echelon. No dedication. A repeating story in blitz.
And it’s totally normal. If my clan had the same problem as VE1L. I would have disappeared
im not top8 level but i did the exact same
Don't diss the top 32 warriors the lower echelon avatar is bussin
im cheering for my clan to get top256
or have a day 4 🙂
tbh i dont think it's necessary, like look rn, PYS#3 is over and exactly 8 teams among the top8 have the same cups, which is a good thing imo, no need for a 4th day
Agreed that day 4 is not really necessary. The issue is the bad seeding, so a 4th day would just repeat the same thing imo. I think we can all agree that there needs to be a way to prevent two very strong teams competing against one another at an early stage.
The format is something that has been fixed and that currently works great, seeding is something that needs to be fixed but nothing else need a change really
My family also needs me
I have one question, is it possible to swap Accounts with Europe and CIS?
You cant blame them, i wouldnt play challengers either
U complain if it happens once
This however is why leagues won’t work tbf
increase rewards for EU since its a larger server now?
no
increase monetary rewards (credits, free xp, gold) for championships*
Give pro avatar to top128
Gross
You can have more than 10 teams only on eu, its not the same for na and asia 😂
Give them all pro avatars
Put pro avatar in a lootbox
Make them purchaseable for credits
good idea 🤑
5 certificates for cyber camo for whoever gets in top16 and perma in top12 😎
Make it top 10 not top 12 👀
Top 16 profesional tour and top 8 go play for blitz cup
Challengers for top 32
Lesgoo
do winners get the professional blue and orange camo too?
In top4 team will get orange camo
oh nice good were top2
U mean cyber or top4 camo?
in the top 8 tournament, those who are in the top 4 can get it
This top4 camo
alright thanks
This wouldn't happen if leagues were here in the first place imo)
Just cut off rerolls by reintroducing the previous sistem but increasing the number of battles by a lot.
both of the systems have issues, the previous one obviously has 1000x more issues than the current one, a new system is needed that involves Team Stats and not just players stats, and calibration tournaments for those stats
if u make the top 4 teams have secured spot in next prof , those teams have more chances that they wont get disband. Also if they disband np, they lose the opportunity of skipping the qualifiers.
also put a rule that if team roster changes X number of players, they lose this invitation to next prof. With this , rosters wont change at all, the main core will be there
the only issue i see is pay for spots…
league>
but tbh would be good having top 4 skipping qualifiers. Also you could do same with leagues more or less.
By this i mean, clans and teams wont get disbanded/changed this much if you are promising them a good spot in next important tournament
Teams and clans change a lot bcs nothing affects them. No one will disband team when they see they can get top 8 without qualifiers
Leagues is same, you put leagues = less % of teams will get disbanded. Bcs by getting disbanded they will need to start from 0
By this you are rewarding the teams that are here every season without changing much their roster
You just need to put a type of rule so pay for spots cant be done (or at least 1-2 players, not whole team)
imo best rule could be, you can only change 2-3 players in roster per season (if u want to stay in your league/skip qualif)
if u change more than 2-3. You lose your spot in league, etc
its fair, after all u cant make it to best league and change whole roster and think you will stay in that league… your team changed completely , they werent the ones making it to that league
i like tournaments 
Ha Ivan
In this case, top clan can still sell spots... they just put players in a 2ndary team, win their spot, and at the end they just put 2ndary team players in top championships
One team per clan. And by only being able to change 2 players every season , its kinda fine
Tbh i dont think top clans would sell spots, it first happened with the cis guys of -1- of Money blaster. Never happened before
After all, clans and players are already selling slots and accounts. If they sell places to weak players, they will fall to the 2nd league and that's it.
Why would it be wrong? I mean rerolls are the ones who change largely the mm around top16 level and most of the times they have just 1k battles. So why don't you put like 5k battles or 10k in order to force ppl to focus on less reroll accounts and play more on their account to focus in improving their own stats.
^ yeah
also by only changing 2 players per season, only 2 persons will pay the work of 8, so they wont get much money 😂
@outer isle bro by this rule u want, new players cant play tournaments…
Also league could be a good option but how it should work?
Haven't followed the conversation.
@mellow belfry because most of the times ppl have a own account and just make rerolls to bost their teams.
Maybe 10k are too much but honestly I don't really see new players starting with the game from 0 for the first time and being immediately interested in doing tournaments, being realistic.
And changing players between seasons is no problem. Sports clubs change players too, and yet they usually stay at the same level of competition. This is an artificial problem.
A clan that takes place in the 1st league will attract and take on the best players. Clans from the 2nd and 3rd leagues will be less attractive, respectively, but will have the incentive to advance and attract better players.
yeah but if u allow to change the whole roster, this is when selling spots comes. If u just allow 2 changes, there wont be much problems on this issue
i dont think that's the solution, cuz the whole point of tournaments is that players need to compete to get rewards, providing them with an ensured top8 spot would mean that they'll get free rewards of 2 seasons by only playing one, that can't be a thing imo, at least not the whole top4 but maybe top1-2
- it would mean that there could only be 6 remaining spots to compete for if u want to get a top8, upsets are less likely but players' motivation will drastically decrease due to the decrease of the amount of spots
At the moment it seems to me that the best option will be 10 teams in the 1st and 2nd league, the best 3 will advance - 3 will go down. Everyone plays with every 2x bo7 and the points just count, that would be 18 clashes and 9 tournament days per season.
For the 3rd league, qualifications would be similar to what is now.
This will make transfers of players unnecessarily difficult. Someone else can already play in the qualifiers and sell seats in the tournament of professionals, but not many do
Most of us already have these prizes and we don't play for the gold avatar or the credits just for the competition, because the cash prizes aren't too big either, when you are already in the top 8 do you not want to play or do you fight to be top 1?
so you want more teams in the round robin but less teams qualifying for top4 (top3 in your case)??? what's the point, the professional tournament's idea is to only have the very best teams competing for a very limited amount of spots, there would be less Headline encounters, less interesting matches and it would take even longer to play, it's an unnecessary waste of time and it's always been top8/16/32, should remaing like that
thats why league system is good
no but it should remain a competition, not just a free ticket to next tournament's top8
like, everyone should have a chance of making it top8
That way, at the highest level, we would get rid of qualifications and there would be more time for the final tournament, so there could be 10 teams in the league because now there are enough teams at that level.
You do not understand what I mean with the system, I would like the points to decide the final winner, with 10 teams in 3 league falling to the lower one for the next season and 3 being promoted to higher is the optimal number.
Everyone still has a chance, but the new clan will need 2/3 seasons to do so
do u think players will want to wait 2/3 season to have access to prof rewards if they have the level for it???
Also i like the league idea, you're right, thing is that the system isn't what needs a change for now, it's the seeding that needs a final fix to make tournaments finally balanced
If they do not want to wait, and they are at the appropriate level, they can play in a clan that is already in the league.
For several years, the same players have been playing in professional tournaments, regardless of the clan they are in.
The only thing that will change is that the games will be more interesting and fair.
for sure, but imo, it should remain top8/16/32 and not top10/20/40, and 2 teams going up/down per league bcs u can't just kick down 3 teams of the top 8 for 3 top16 teams which like 1-2 wont be worthy of it
because you're basically taking away 3 good teams amongst a pool of 8 teams, that's almost 50%, 50% amongst the top1% teams, worthy teams that definitely deserve a top8, that's way too much
It could also be like that, but there is no point in staying with the old numbers by force, since the number of players has doubled (I'm talking only about the EU server) and if we stayed with 8 teams, the league would be shorter, or you would have to stay with the two-stage tournament, first top 8, and then the top 4 fight each other.
Of course, this is also an option, but in my opinion it is worth introducing this clean league system, for example on the basis of sports games. I do not see why the league system would be bad as in football, it could work similarly for us.
If there are 8 teams in the leagues, they should drop 2, if 10 - then 3. It is only about certain proportions and the possibility of promotion for aspiring clans.
it's not about being forced to keep the old numbers, it's to keep both time consumption low / rare prof rewards, we can't just have 100 players getting prof rewards every season, and once again it'll mean less interesting matches because more lower level teams could compete in the higher stages against tremendously good teams, getting clapped 4/0 - 5/0, i dont think having more than 8 really matters at this point
In the previous season and others, 9-11 teams fought for the top 8.
Today there are 15 or more, and many are evenly matched. A lot of players from Russia just came.
The rarity of the rewards is conventional, what makes the difference if the avatar gets 80 or 100 players?
Anyway, this can also be solved differently, let unique rewards be given only to players from clans that will stay in the league - i.e. the top 7 (70 players)
This but what incentive is there for those clans NOT automatically considered Top 4? You would literally have no tours eventually because no one can be bothered if the Top 4 is predetermined
i dont think that there's that many teams fighting for the top8, i just think that because of the massive amount of new teams creation (over 3x what we used to have) the seeding has made it so teams with good stats but that aren't good enough for top8 can compete for it, it's not about competing for top8 it's about having a new seeding system since this one is starting to show flaws, because i'm telling you there's at best 10-11 teams competing for the top8 and worth the top8, no more, no less
This season was always going to go this way. The migration changed the status quo & yes seeding is showing flaws. Fact is getting over 100 groups in PYS 1 is a great thing for the tour side. The more teams, the greater the exposure the more likely to have additional resources thrown at it. We now only have 3 servers, so maybe just maybe following this tour valid & reasonable suggestions can be explored. There will never be a perfect system, there will always be loopholes & naysayers but no doubt something beneficial & achievable can be found.
At the moment EG- J0KES -ASN- -W1N- and VE1L are out of profesjonal. Perhaps these teams (except for EG-) have no chance of winning, but each of them could compete for the top 4/5
About a league tournament, maybe the teams pay to participate and in the end wg gives the money back * or more depends the rewards. Maybe there are less chance the teams disband.
*if this team respected the rule, don’t ragqui the tourney.
eg okey, but rest of those teams… u say they have top 4 level? no hate towards them but top 4 is big words bro
Yea these others dont belong there
then i want you to quote me 4 teams among the top8 that any of these teams except EG could beat or have a chance to beat
jokes is new ru team?
This system has never been good, it just shows more clearly now. Already 2 or 3 years ago, logos would have been a better option. It's just that WG doesn't listen to players and instead of making sensible changes to the system, he prefers to add a new Premium tank or an avatar, because it's easier.
-w1n- beat eg-
xd imagine the administration this would take to coordinate though
i said 4 teams amongst the top8 xddd, because you can't be top4 if you're not better than 4 teams in the top8 brother
idk, i think system gets hated a lot when its actually not that bad…
In fairness we (VE1L) dropped the ball against POG, our fault there. However, whilst we languish down in the mid 20’s fact is if those teams from top 7 down have a bad PYS we can, in theory, still rise. Yes it means we must win every game & yes we also require others to totally blow it, but there is a chance (slim I admit)
the system is really good, but the seeding is showing a lot of Flaws due to the merge
I totally don’t disagree but I know for a fact that WG, especially Tolyan, is wanting to improve the tours
yea i know but eg- kinda f'd up against -w1n- but to be honest -w1n- almost won against -pink
It was good but now a lot of teams counter the system like happened with the 100% rerolles
I'm not saying they are favorites, but they can win against a lot of teams in the top 8.
how do u counter this system? (not sarcasm, serious question)
Ofc, POG too have a good team now
Exactly and that hurt us simple
Lmao you cant put 20 teams in top8 pigula
We have to find a solution that dont allow ragquit teams during tourney
eg win asn jokes pog veil how much teams u want in top 8?
it's not the system's fault, it's the seedings fault, like it has pretty much always been since 2018, just make a failless seeding and then the system will work as intended and even be improved over time since no flaws in the qualification stage will occure
You can’t regulate this
I believe the best option in Europe at this point is 10, but it doesn't matter. There may still be 8, it's all about the system itself
But for the migration would seeding have been such an issue? I for one can’t answer that either way tbf. Maybe it wouldn’t have but players have migrated with their CIS stats & it really threw what we are used to
honeslty do better seeding and everything will be fine lol
xDDDD NOPE We are Polish team🇵🇱
easy to say, difficult to make… instead of just complaining, give WG ideas
Create a rerolle and full platoon than u have 85winrate without problem. U just have to check some strong wr teams.
Qualifying and meaningless battles will still be occupied half of the season
i guess players from apa, souls ?
What will happen when 20x 100%wr teams will come?
Not souls
Imm0r?
apa, 1 form fen1x, 2f rom sparta etc
i mean we used to be #10-#15 winrate team previous seasons, since then we spend months improving our winrate for this one season, and bcs of the merge we're like #24 even tho we grinded like 1-2%, it clearly is due to the merge, a lot of average teams with a massive winrate are registering, and every time we're sweating and praying we wont get any of the big teams on the 3rd day because of that
For my team if we want to get top 8 we need to be best team in server because seeding give us these top 4 teams in every semifinals but its fine, we are not top 1 yet. We keep training to next seasons hopefully we get challengers even now😅
That’s what I mean the migration as had a significant impact, more than we realised
Even being in the top% in wr (64-65%) we always fought against top10 teams in the 2nd day...
HÍÍ im neww
big teams on 3rd day its hard, but if u wanna be top 4-1 , u must beat them… at the end each team depends on themselves. Win everything = top 8. Forget about system or groups… dont fck up thats it
top wr nowadays is around 72-73%, nowhere near 65%
Hi new lol
Exactly, I don't know if your team is in the top 8 on the server, but it's definitely better than the amount of cups won
U are one of the unique clan with bad winrate that don’t try to counter wg seeding. U deserve more respect. 💫
I got to stream their brilliance 😊
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why bother even if make it to top 8 atm we aren't good enough to win it. If we were we would have beaten pink and ve1l.
-Pink is literally consistant of top ru players. Beating them needs alot of skill
Ok
It was a joke i think xD
gdzie sens
to play against team worth as much as yours and know your limits, learn from your mistakes in the upper stages against good teams, that could be a thing and you know it'll be good for your team even if u dont win it all
I hope so
while gaseo smurfing on top32 clans :p
yeah tbh we always get ez groups… we are lucky
Thought you were BPS??? Not streamed bps properly so unsure who is where or what over there
ye im BPS-, i think you streamed us once? not sure 😬
you're forgettable so it would make sense if he can't remember you
Why isnt imm0r attending pys?
cant listen a top 6 on cups 🥱
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@mellow belfry I hope u enjoy playing vs Eibar Dynamo United and cska Belgrade in every pys
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yeah its funny, we hopefully will be the first team ever to keep 100wr in qualifiers , watch me jinx it and today lose 🤩
Stupid ass
cuz they cant make top8 so they let down
So they disband?
What they have to do?
For this season
Not BPS team where Vanessa got stuck on Castilla ? Couldn’t stop laughing
trzeba bylo zarty wybrac @gleaming schooner ❤️
vanessa…. lets not comment on her plays pls
hard to lose again top32 bro
YES
😂😂 I’m praying for u
seems like bps is having fun during pys while we keep playing ve1l over and over
Vanessa got stuck sounds good
I has to focus that on stream - I really couldn’t stop giggling
she should lead bps in blitz cup
Oj @night barn ❤
yeah veil team is rlly strong… stop complaining about it man u are MONEY BLASTER WINNER !
I was crying the whole game because I couldn’t move and i thought we are gonna lose because of me
sad kitty noises 🙏
soon blitz cup winner 
It got close & it was a classic
vanessa in main 7 = 6 vs 7
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And still you won’t let us beat you, rather selfish indeed
dont hesitate to let her play during RR then
And with you on the bench = win 😎, it might be 6v7 with me but im the lucky charm
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Miguelardo benching just like me back in BC 2020
and in bc2022 soon aswell
😔😔 why you gotta do him like that
wanted to ask about it xD
me no bench
Instead you will play discord activities during blitz cup with yourself on the bench
he talks too much
Give him to me.. I have some space left in the basement, he will talk all he wants with gaseo and the rest
who is gaseo?
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by the way how are the prof winner rewards ( camo and avatar ) handed out
After the top4 ends, like a week or smth
Paypal
Who are they given to? All clanmembers?
no, players of the team only, if they played enough battles
Thanks
(Camo and avatar) : Paypal😐
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xd
Scammer!
I realized what i said after spity shouted it in the vc 😂😂
Spity shouts in vc? Did he take the Erik (varmilo) training course?
Yes he did 😂😂 by screaming like a little girl and making sheep noises
push the right side
I see so much CAP in this chat
Spitty talks?
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nope
Bruh
if he makes sheep noises idk if we can say its called talking
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😂😂
Have you ever heard miguel?
Sadly not
Then you dont know what animal noises means 😶
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Hey don’t judge, that may be his unique style of communication. I would try to understand it, may possibly be worthwhile.
Tolyan ❤️
I do my team is used to make noises aswell
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Be happy
Don’t listen to sputy he’s the animal on our team that makes all kind of noises 😳
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Better share with me ur fav meme (censored). Others u can dm me
Sing baby shark if there’s animal noises, I’ve heard that it’s really soothing 😈
we're basically guides and our teams is the entire zoo/circus... making animal noises all over the place, if there was much diversity in blitz CW as there is in our CW voice channel i'd find it perfect
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