maps-discussion

[quaint bay]

Ok. Thnx

[torn escarp]

They did nothing to minimap its just realistic mode is coming

[dreamy wave]

Yeah

[dreamy wave]

Thanks

[autumn needle]

I miss the Lost Temple map

[patent topaz]

i miss proving grounds map

[warped ibex]

Because of that, I flank em' from that side with a light tank since people already know that side is useless and won't go from there

[brittle cliff]

Wargaming needs to add a tool where you can build your own maps and allow you to host matches for other clans and other players to make it more fun. Nova Logic did it with Delta Force Landwarrior series. They give you the base map and you decide weather, day or night map, where buildings, trees, rocks etc go. That would be nice and that way you wouldn’t have to play same maps over and over.

[marble gyro]

That would subtract people from the random queue, therefore less people would grind and less people would pay to speed up the grinds

[fringe pollen]

Dude I removed it bru

[flat oar]

Hey, isn't the Death Star the 183, not the Jageru?

[agile pewter]

ah yes, a good discussion about maps

[wide shale]

New Star Wars map leak!! 😱

For obvious reasons this is sarcasm

[agile pewter]

!!!!

[autumn needle]

Cant beat Mirage

[shy crest]

Yep

[quaint bay]

what happened to mirage map? did they remove it or are they remodeling it ?

[pallid oar]

It was removed quite a while ago alongside lost temple for reworks. Wargaming cited issues preventing the maps being in high tier battles and also the fact that Mirage could not have supremacy on it.

[elfin moth]

1 year 2 months ago in patch 7.9

[quaint bay]

well they could’ve tried to expand it or keep it for lower tier only

[scenic stratus]

Mirage was low tiers only anyways

They wanted to to be useable at high tiers with supremacy caps. So they removed it for rework. Atleast that is the official statement from wg

[quaint bay]

then why’s it taking so long? I’m not saying it’s a easy job but they could’ve brought it this update instead of Castilla

[wide shale]

I would assume WG has a list of priorities, who knows what is on which part of that list

[scenic stratus]

Let me check with my product manager, oh wait I don't work at wg. Idk, I just said what wg made public about the decision

[faint lynx]

Kinda both

They removed it and said they were gonna rework it, similar to Mines
But it is like a few updates ago, they still haven’t added them back. It seems like we would need to wait for further updates about them I guess

[elfin moth]

Mate, mine's was not reworked
Both Mirage and Lost temple will be reworked gameplay wise as well as will be implimented in PBR

And those two were removed 1 yr and 2 months ago

[paper salmon]

will there be colored maps one day that could be prettier and help orientation because it is sometimes difficult to know where the enemy is when you want to refer to the map

[red lake]

The minimap is literally gray and the enemies are in bright red

[trim viper]

Bro
Castila is broken

[coarse maple]

when normandy pbr/hd

[red lake]

Normandy isn’t even that old

[wide shale]

Faust PBR 👍

[stone tendon]

If you play on steam there’s a mod which gives you coloured maps which I made

[dreamy wave]

The next Pbr will be a desert map

[quaint bay]

LoL

[fringe pollen]

Man this chat is ded

[wide shale]

Chat was last active when we had a discussion about explosions

[fringe pollen]

True

[lament widget]

probably become more active when the next map/revamp comes out

[lament widget]

proof?

[stone tendon]

#maps-discussion message

That I guess but it’s not pbr so I’m not sure

[elfin moth]

Yupp

Well at least its confirmed that the next PBR map will be one of the desert maps(Canyon included as wg terms it as a desrt map)

[lament widget]

Even tho it uses winter camo, lol

[elfin moth]

Ye ikr

[unique minnow]

castilla as heavy tanks just sucks unless your meds win the med side

[river canopy]

that's why you don't go mill. Just go med side

[high thunder]

The A base?

[wide shale]

Med side, yes

[river canopy]

whichever side has the castle

[wide shale]

it’s not a castle

[marble gyro]

the church or whatever

even if you're in a maus, always go med side
At the very least u could go B with extremely slow tanks but it isn't exactly a great idea

[dull urchin]

Thanks for that advice. That mill hill in heavies has been murder.

[pallid oar]

It makes you too reliant on your teammates to hold the church if they even go there. If the enemies gain control of it you’re not going to have a good time

[odd flicker]

take castilla throw in trash drive 9 miles in heavy around a bend die td on hill retarted

[stone tendon]

wat

[dark kettle]

Got ask why does it take run Castilla at 60 fps

[agile pewter]

Impressive

[marble gyro]

a device which isn't more than 3 years old

i can perfectly run it on my Huawei p smart 2019

[quaint bay]

ayo where mirage at

[void shale]

Been gone for a while, reworked like Lost Temple, they've been gone for a couple years now

[quaint bay]

Ik all that but they said they would re work them but they still aren’t finished

[stone tendon]

they said “indefinite rework”, may or may not comeback

[elfin moth]

1 year 2 months😭

[zealous fiber]

Hey am I, as a Bat-Chat main the only one finding many maps un enjoyable as they’re flooded with obstacles (huge rocks, un-climbable hills, infrastructure, trains etc.) even at the “hill” side of the map? It’s very hard to do any heavy/TD-bullying maneuvers while in WoT PC it’s basically it’s whole gameplay. I’d say it’s not a coincidence if in blitzstars the best win ratios are dominated with heavies (and T-22 which happens to be very good at town too)

I’m saying Bat-Chat as the problems is increased (huge easy-to-aim hull) but a huge proportion of tier X meds/lights wr are among the worst of all tier X

[spark patrol]

"Take this position on mines, it's the most important position" Proceeds to do literally nothing because the enemy team wasn't brain dead

Huh, it's almost like Mines is exactly as I had said, you only do as good as the enemy is stupid on that map, because no smart player is going to let you take the rocks on mines and gain any benefit from it. If no one goes city then you get flanked and lose all pressure from the rocks, which further reinforces city being a valuable flank. If anyone goes river, you now lose all pressure, which even further reinforces river being a valuable flank.

It's almost like mines is a god awful map where no position has any true value if the enemy team has any kind of brain activity beyond "I move forward and hold fire"

[modern maple]

Who or what are you quoting?

[naive pagoda]

So many instances of this

[lusty surge]

The mine should be a little bigger

[stone tendon]

The arena style maps ( Faust, naval frontier, dynasty’s pearl ) are pure hell for most lights, let alone the batchat

I really wish the wg would remove them but that would probably never happen :))

[elfin moth]

Agree, but it makes me think out of the box
When playing lights and the tvp 50 51

[stone tendon]

You can’t really think out of the box in such maps given you have very limited options in them

[desert tendon]

If you have south spawn on naval frontier, you can use that little bump as a hull down option in meds like the wz121, that’s powerful.

Then relocate if necessary

[elfin moth]

Fine😂
But i don't hate those maps in lights

[cold zephyr]

lagstilla....

[quaint bay]

Imagine ever having lag

[shy crest]

Anyone here HATES ghost factory? As a td main,the north spawn is just useless while the South spawn has a somewhat usable td bush(ultimately useless as the rails block almost all the tanks driving across Unless ur in a tall TD)

[modern maple]

Just go to the factory if you don‘t feel like going to the medium ditch in the corner

[marble gyro]

td mains aren't exactly compatible with the current meta of both tanks and maps
Ghost factory is a map which doesn't offer much to turretless/armorless tds

[wild mulch]

broken castylia spot, imvisible Kv5, and i know there is a tree but, didnt fit this all space betwen building, and...kv5 is hugeeeeee

fix it fast please :0

[stone tendon]

havent watched yet but the actual effective camoflage given by foliage is not the exact outline of the tree itself, but a rectangle that contains the whole tree

Sort of like this

[shy crest]

Ikr...... Canal, Castilla and molendjik are about the only maps good for td mains where it's possible to carry the game reliably. All others are team dependant maps

[stone tendon]

Also dead rail, mines to an extent, but yea maps these days tend to be geared towards brawling which tds can’t do

[wild mulch]

dude, I've been playing big wot for 11 years, I've come across a lot of camouflage bags

do not teach the game mechanic of the veteran :0

[wild mulch]

and if you look closely you will notice that I told my platoon to shoot the tree with HE and knock it over, even when it was knocked over, the kv was still without a spot in the same place: 0

[shy crest]

Oh yeah i forgot dead rail. Mines is just meh because hts just sit hulldown more often than not.

[stone tendon]

I think this is whats happening. More the cupola being blocked that the tree

[modern maple]

Yeah, I would also blame the tree. Not sure if they ever updated it but bushes used to be massive boxes because that makes calculation easy

[river canopy]

To add, the reason you didn’t spot him is because both of your spotting checkpoints are covered. Your gun base checkpoint is blocked by the tree, and the cupola checkpoint is blocked by the building

[wild mulch]

dude, GUN spoting like copula u know ?

[wild mulch]

notice how I was riding the replay, I checked under each angle and nothing, the position to improve, in this case one side is much worse than the second one, since you cannot see anyone from 150m when you have visible space in front of you

[river canopy]

Well, this is just one more reason why I don’t bother wasting my time on that side of the map. Just go to the church side.

[stone tendon]

Half the time I’m caught in a pincer when the entire team goes church side. Hard to leave.

[modern maple]

Just hope that some of your teammates swallow the pill and go to the windmill

[marble gyro]

windmill is kinda usless, you need to push the church and then flank

[modern maple]

For that you need people to delay the windmill otherwise you are the one getting flanked

[marble gyro]

nah usually people which go windmill are braindead, so they won't push because they fear the sniping tds

[modern maple]

Which just means that they‘ll snipe the mediums

[stone tendon]

whenever im in a heavy its windmill for me. Someone needs to hold to protect the TDs and spot for the meds to create crossfire

[marble gyro]

never go windmill, everyone should focus on the church, tds included

you need to hardpush whoever is at the church and then flank, you'll have tank and position advantage doing so

[wild mulch]

What? the map has unbalanced sides in relation to each other and you will tell me to drive to the other side in this case?
Are you a bit funny, do you have any idea how many people should be sitting on the map from both sides giving you practically the same possibilities? such a slip-up in the big wot would not even pass :0

[river canopy]

All things considered, one very specific line of sight for one particular tank where a tree/building is blocking your spotting checkpoints for that specific angle is a pretty small issue of map spawns being unbalanced compared to maps like Vineyards, Middleburg, Port Bay, which are far more unbalanced.

Heck even on PC wot, there are plenty of unbalanced maps

[wild mulch]

as Yukon came out and after the first hour I wrote here that you can see trees on high settings, and not everyone on low settings, and a few days later update: 3
now it will be the same\

[ripe scroll]

why do i see so many t34-85s like bruh waay too common and ez kill for .01D and cromwell

[unique storm]

Anyone else having sh*t tons of issues with the new Castilla? I’ve got average specs, but I average roughly ten fps only on that map. My settings were turned down, and still, was laggy asf. Wg, could you possibly consider a map filter? For people like me, it would be useful to filter out maps that lag the game so freakin hard. I know that adding a filter could cause more issues, but it might just be worth a shot. Just food for thought.

[elfin moth]

Yes it takes a toll as there is a lot of rendering checkerboarding going on

Even i hav a low end pc dat runs the game at max graphic setting at 60fps but dips to 55>

But as with when they at introduced pbr tanks, as new patches come, it will be better optimized(castilla)

[unique storm]

My fps drops to something of 8fps or so. I’ve got an intel i5 8th gen, with 8 gigs of ram… and it still drives it to the ground. The pbr tanks didn’t have much of an effect on my fps(which is normally 60-50) so idk. Thanks for the reply lol

[scenic stratus]

Do you have a dedicated gpu

[acoustic perch]

8gb RAM isn't really a lot.

Even 16gb isn't enough for 2022 in some games.

And Castilla and future PBR maps will require a dedicated GPU (So not your Intel HD graphics or AMD Radeon Vega graphics)

[zealous totem]

i havent had any issues on castilla, at all.
but tbf i have 64gb ram and an rtx quadro 4000

[marble gyro]

💀

[zealous totem]

heheheha

[nocturne mortar]

16 is plenty to run anything, 8 is adequate but will limit on ram heavy games

[acoustic perch]

I mean 8gb is not adequate for a lot of games in 2022. (Hell, a couple of chrome tabs would fill up 8gb)

The biggest regret that I have with my notebook laptop is that I got one with 8gb RAM. Chrome, photoshop etc fill up that 8gb really fast.

16 is enough for most games, but a lot of games already recommend 16gb.
I remember my old 16gb kit (Before I jumped to 32gb) would hit 80% usage on a bunch of games (I.e. ARK Survival), and my friend also says he was using up the majority of his 16gb kit, so he hopped onto 32gb.

@zealous totem workstation I assume?

[zealous totem]

yep
dell precision
so hey, no issues with castilla :D

[river canopy]

8 is honestly kind of a struggle. My old computer had 8, and the RAM was a serious bottleneck

[acoustic perch]

Nice.

I also run Castilla without any issues (With Reshade aswell)

Running a Ryzen 5 3600, 32gb RAM (TridentZ Neo 3600MHz CL18), with an RTX 3060 Ti (MSI Gaming X LHR, if you're curious)

My multi-purpose PC: General use, gaming, workstation.

Although when rendering with Blender, I used up all 8gb VRAM on the GPU, and Blender had to resort to using my system RAM (So theres an upside to having 32gb)

[nocturne mortar]

Open world games will always need more ram and ark is pretty ram heavy, even things like cyberpunk only recommend 12. 16 will run anything at good settings, 8 will be good for most games at adequate settings so unless you specifically want to play open world games or at the upper limits of graphics settings it'll be fine

[river canopy]

I had to play CoD Black Ops 4 on minimum settings because of the 8GB RAM bottleneck

[acoustic perch]

I mean like I said, my notebook with 8gb RAM gets that 8gb filled up pretty quickly with just chrome and photoshop (So not even gaming, but I guess both of those are RAM intensive).

And on my desktop, iirc my idle RAM usage is already over 8gb.

[zealous totem]

photoshop is incredibly ram intensive
makes chrome seem mild

but yes the extra ram does help run games
i highly doubt my old laptop (an older i5 with igpu and 8gb ram) would be able to handle castilla with stable fps

[acoustic perch]

Tbh I'm surprised my notebook can run both Photoshop and Illustrator at the same time.

Thats the only regret I have with my notebook, the 8gb RAM simply isn't enough.

Maybe I should try playing Castilla on it

[nocturne mortar]

That sounds kinda weird the min is 8 but the recommended is only 12 so being forced to run it at min settings sounds kinda dodgy lol

[acoustic perch]

Minecraft with shaders begs to differ

[halcyon wren]

i can run every map, PBR on, at a consistent 60fps, no drops at all

but castilla murders it and cuts it down to anywhere between 20-35fps

[acoustic perch]

But every other map isn't PBR, Castilla is the only PBR map.

[elfin moth]

Well, on client side it isn't

[modern maple]

WG shouldn‘t have adjusted the graphics on Castilla so that you still get the same experience as before on the graphic setting sou were on - instead of simply forcing a way heavier map into a system for much lighter maps, meaning that if you want to enjoy the other maps on high graphic settings you have to make do with Castilla ruining your experience

[stone tendon]

Does anyone recognise what map this is?

The background tells me falls creek but the textures tell me its not

[stone tendon]

Pbr falls creek :0

I think…. not sure but those rocks looks bit shiny

[chilly marten]

Thats canal lol

[fallen socket]

I don't think it is

[elfin moth]

Nahh

[elfin moth]

Falls creek cuz background mt
It looks different cuz of the mod they use

[unique storm]

Great, another map to ruin all hopes of my poor computer running smooth lol. All things considered, it might just end it lol

[acoustic perch]

I mean tbh a game killing a computer is pretty damn near impossible these days, as long as the components are well made. As long as your computer is within a reasonable temperature range (I mean after a certain temperature, your i5 will shut the PC down to save itself), then its pretty much impossible for a game to make your PC catch fire (Especially true for desktops).

Also that doesnt even look like PBR Falls Creek. It doesnt even look any different from the original Falls Creek

[velvet crow]

if the person can afford the cost of a high cpu intensive computer or laptop

[acoustic perch]

I mean even the trash CPUs wont let you basically work them to death.

An Intel Celeron will thermal throttle if it gets too hot.

[marble gyro]

as if wotb was a really heavy game to run
It's nowhere near the standards of major games these days

[velvet crow]

maybe not blitz but games that take high storage like war thunder

[wide shale]

My Macbook runs just fine, I had to lower a couple settings like flora one down from max but I still get 60 FPS all the time on Castilla

[marble gyro]

wt isn't even that heavy, i personally have a gtx1660s which isn't exactly the latest model but i still menage to run it on almost all high (not max tho) graphics with a stable 120+ fps

[red lake]

I like how you say and then list if the computer was made exceptionally good my pc which I play unturned on which Is an incredibly graphically simple game runs hot and struggles to load fast during it along with stutters

[acoustic perch]

Lol running hot and struggling to load fast don't mean that the computer isn't made exceptionally good. It just means the hardware or cooling is inadequate.

Badly made PC components do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACtT_rzToI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLvqqPBN4Ag

In the case of the 2nd video, the issue was that the GPU had a poorly designed VRM cooling, causing it to explode under high load.

As for loading fast: loading speeds depend on your system storage.

If WoT Blitz is installed on a Hard Disk Drive, then it will load slowly.
If WoTB is on something like an NVMe SSD (Or any SSD, for the matter), then it'll load a lot faster.

[hoary mason]

I was just scrolling through #coming-soon and I saw all these maps that were there and they look really good, imo. Anybody the oriental themed one, I think it was supposed to come one update but it never did. Any older players know what happened to the desert and winter map above?

[junior fog]

the desert map is Hellas or whatever that greek map is

[red lake]

The snow one was also converted into a Greenland and is interesting they removed the bridges

[junior fog]

Oh yeah that's the new canadian map

Yukon

[elfin moth]

Comming soon

[elfin moth]

Yukon

[elfin moth]

Hellas

[elfin moth]

Early images of the lost temple re work

[stone tendon]

Nope I think that is a wotb version of Pearl river

[elfin moth]

Can u send pearl river ss?
Can't remember it from wot xd

[elfin moth]

Ohhh yess yess

[elfin moth]

Yaya dats pearl river for sure

[elfin moth]

It may come, who knows⚡

[knotty quartz]

pickles#5436 has been warned.

[quaint bay]

Map is good

[kindred pasture]

Opinion on castilla: The map is bad. the massive TD camping spots encourage passive play. the HT hill is almost impossible to win until your team has won the castle otherwise you just get shot in the side. the fact that to win one side you almost have to win the other just compounds the loss. you lose castle therefore you lose hill and vice versa.

[marble gyro]

you just have to completely ignore the heavy side and push the mediums with all your team (someone on B could also be useful), then you'll have destroyed their mobile tanks so they'll be very easy to flank

[kindred pasture]

which isn't a well designed map. if one flank has to be ignored in order to win then that basically cuts the size of the map in half.

[river canopy]

Most maps have a side that's completely unusable because WG has an obsession with making mixed type maps with a "heavy" side and a "med side", which always leads to the "heavy" side being totally useless

[kindred pasture]

not all of them, but yes. molendjik or however you spell is is a great map because the entire map is "usable". and winning one flank doesnt instantly win the game because you can't shoot people from 500m away across the map except for a couple spots. losing one flank should help you win, but not be an automatic win

[marble gyro]

molendijk works only on the mediums side and if you win there it is an autowin, it only takes more time because the map is larger (so there's more time for a teammmate to do a stupid move)

[river canopy]

I haven't played enough of molendijk to be sure, but honestly, I don't think either side really matters that much. It's all about whoever can control both spawns. If you control both spawns, you'll probably win the game

[elfin moth]

Broo why muted?!🤯

[stone tendon]

:0

[shy crest]

If you go town with hts you can hold base on molendjik

[marble gyro]

yes but it's not very efficient for regular, because you can't expect people to always come straight to you letting you farm

[quaint bay]

where mirage at? it’s been almost a year

[safe seal]

Is that supposed to be a new coming soon map? 👀

[scenic stratus]

It's supposed to be a new old map. Particularly a redesign of the map to accommodate supremacy caps and tier 10 gameplay. But it just went out to get a redesign and never said when he will be back

[pallid temple]

really?

@shell talon this game feels so jank atm

[wide shale]

I don’t see what you are trying to prove here, why ping one of the devs here too

[pallid temple]

look at the map, floating trees no floor

id actually like to see the terrain so ik where to shoot camping noobs at the back

[wide shale]

It looks like your textures broke, maybe try reinstalling the game

[pallid temple]

done and done again its just the game atm, snapping aiming along with ghost shells (12ping and 0% loss), people magically shooting throught buildings/terrain (like solid right through im not near any edges) game feels more broken then ever

google play version fyi

[shell talon]

@pallid temple mate, i recommend to contact support team for help

[dull urchin]

Why Castilla coming up so often like a broken slot machine? Some kind of joke?

[wide shale]

it's not for me

[dull urchin]

ok thanks, then just my bad luck.

[scenic stratus]

I haven't noticed castilla coming up that often. I mean I dislike that map so I found myself playing on that map way too often before anyways

[cobalt mist]

That might be controversial but what if Mines had a supremacy mode ? I’m pretty sure someone will say: "The map is too small for that" but I want to hear y’all opinions about this

[wide shale]

The map is way to small for supremacy caps, but the place to put them would probably be: town, hill and the “med side” thing over the water

[cobalt mist]

Yeah exactly what I thought too but that would have been very interesting tbh

[hard jungle]

There should be more vertical maps, with routes to climb up and down. Adding a slope to prevent fall damage would be noob-friendly.

[scenic stratus]

You underestimate my urge to jump of a cliff

To frame it in a better way, When I see a way to jump and I am in a decently fast tank, you bet I am gonna jump.

If you mean something like Middleburg tho then please no. That map is hot garbage partly because of the massive height difference.

[wide shale]

You could just jump off the cliff in Castilla from the church at med side

[scenic stratus]

It's a shortcut. Trust me.

[wide shale]

Don’t worry the fall damage is like Minecraft, water negates all damage 👍

[patent topaz]

you’re a big beefy tank, fall damage doesn’t apply

[acoustic perch]

Actually they should be less noob friendly.

Gotta have instant-death cliffs.

Just have all of the noobs die immediately so they can't screw your team over.

[wide shale]

You can jump off the cliffs over the beach at Normandy too

[lone heart]

Idc what you say, but I want the mirage and lost temple maps added to the game again. I don’t know why they were removed (I wasn’t playing much during that time), but they need to be brought back. Even if it’s just in training rooms, just for fun.

[acoustic perch]

They're being reworked iirc

Thats why they were removed

[lone heart]

They’ve been being reworked for a long time at this point. It kinda feels like they were forgotten by wargaming, but idk.

[marble gyro]

they were removed because the majority of the map was usless and one of the two spawns had a clear positioning advantage over the other (north spawn in Lost Temple, south in Mirage)

[modern maple]

They were meant to come back though

[marble gyro]

well yeah but wg probably shifted to other priorities, we got 2 new maps, a reworked map, a couple of dozens of hd tanks and the new automatic update feature

[autumn needle]

And the reworked castilla map is still one sided for whichever team has more L/M tanks and whoever takes the castle

[marble gyro]

one-sided doesn't necessarily mean one spawn has always an advantage

[dreamy wave]

I thought we was getting a new map in 9.2. They said 3 new maps this year😐

[wide shale]

We still have August, September, October, November and December

[elfin moth]

The next pbr map will come in patch 9.3

[lament widget]

source?

[scenic stratus]

Trust me bro

[wide shale]

"my source is that I made the heck it up"

[lament widget]

For real

[dreamy wave]

🤔Ok

[clever orchid]

mines >

[elfin moth]

Testik blitz

[spiral bane]

I wish i could ban some maps, cuz i really hate ones like dead rail especialy if i have to play a big tank like the amx 50b. Also there is other maps i hate but cant remember the name

[spiral bane]

I saw these too idk what happened

[stone tendon]

Just go medium side in the 50b lol