maps-discussion

[hexed echo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHDOWCK0AbM&ab_channel=WorldofTanksBlitz this version of the map should return

[stone tendon]

They make maps split like that because they want to baby to player base so they don’t need to think where to go in their tank. If you’re a heavy, town, if you’re a medium hill…. Of course almost all these maps end up having a flank that is completely abandoned…

[river canopy]

That's literally every map that has both a town and hills side.

High ground and hulldown cover always makes for superior positions compared to towns. The only way to have a viable town is for the entire map to be urban like Himmelsdorf.

Too bad WG's map designers seem to not realize that, and keep pumping out these garbage mixed type maps. Maps should either be purely open (like Normandy), or purely urban (like Himmelsdorf) or half the map becomes unplayable

[stone tendon]

The only mixed map which passes for me is desert sands.

[lament widget]

I think both oasis palms and desert sands work, unless there’s only one light/med on a team, then they’ll go with the rest of the team in the city area

[stone tendon]

South spawn is defensive north spawn is offensive

Well, have you ever used the island when in north spawn?

It can be pretty brutal

[jovial walrus]

Bring back Sirrage and Lost Temple map!

[quasi shuttle]

We need somthing like prokhorovka on blitz imo

[river canopy]

Dead Rail says hi

And that’s not a joke. Dead rail is almost exactly like Prok. The valley on dead rail is Prok’s 1-2 line, there’s a center ridge to the side of a rail line, there’s a town in the center, and a hill on the other side of the rail

[quasi shuttle]

I pretty sure you can’t camp on the 1-2 line from the hill on prok tho. I don’t play pc so I’m not sure tho

[river canopy]

There’s no hills on the 1-2 line like Blitz, but even without them, everyone camps the 1-2 line corners on PC, just like Blitz

[quasi shuttle]

Ig so

Would just be nice to have more maps where spotting is actually rewarding instead of HTs having enough view range to see halfway down the map

[stone tendon]

That sort of gameplay is too complicated for 95% of the players in this game

[quasi shuttle]

I know 😔

[stone tendon]

Every map must be a hull down play ground for IS4s and STBs, no foliage allowed

[quasi shuttle]

Yep

[molten trail]

best map is new bay with medium tanks

[stone tendon]

How much were you paid to say that

[round pumice]

Where Mirage and Lost Temple?

[elfin moth]

R getting rebalanced

[meager garden]

Just as a note to wg,

The new PBR Middleburg looks again terrible, all the Easter eggs have been removed and the lighting is bland and boring, did you not learn from how bad Castilla looks to not make maps look flat and boring when they previously weren’t.

Please change this so we get a good PBR map.

If PBR is the best option which I’m not so sure about considering this game’s previous graphics. It’s an obvious downgrade yet no one can see it…..

[stone tendon]

What are you talking about the map looks great, and the Easter eggs are still there

Plus they actually got the grass and water colours right here unlike on Castilla

[velvet crow]

is there a ranking from the best maps in blitz to the worst maps?
such as for playing regular mode to tournaments

[lost wing]

Why is castilla so laggy

[thick flume]

I miss the old maps

[acoustic perch]

Because you need a better device

[pliant musk]

.

[lost wing]

:/@acoustic perch

[acoustic perch]

What? Thats the reason Castilla lags lol.

PBR middleburg will be the same

[lost wing]

da water and grass

[acoustic perch]

Yes, Castilla has better water reflections compared to other maps

[elfin moth]

Agree

[dim nacelle]

We still waiting to see the new "mirage & Chinese map" to come up

[trail compass]

Lost temple and mirage

[lament widget]

“Somewhere in 2023” literally not even a month has gone by, chill

[elfin moth]

Long shot put maybe 10.0

[kind violet]

Cry about it, it's a mobile game
Apply for the job at WG and plan it out if ur so smart then 😒

[meager garden]

You think that making Middleburg go from a lovely warm evening sunset ambiance to flat blue sky is an upgrade?

[meager garden]

I really hope that doesn’t get introduced, considering how good the previous Mirage and Lost Temple were, it’s a downgrade to either of them. And that is just obvious…

[meager garden]

Sorry, I just care about quality. If that’s a problem.

[hexed echo]

we need a christmas version of new bay when is around december

[hexed echo]

dude dont be ungrateful and likely will be re added if is the case and for your information theres one stills intact

[meager garden]

If you think the current Middleburg looks like ps1 graphics you really haven’t seen a ps1

Lol, I’m not taking this conversation further.

[hexed echo]

wily's jeep and small details always keep your park clean ♻️

[ornate sand]

I love the Middleburgs PBR

[wide shale]

Faust PBR when

[quaint bay]

When lost temple back

[ornate sand]

Middleburg PBR when

[stone tendon]

stuck lol

[wary wraith]

😐

[red lake]

Castilla looks so dull and lifeless with the pbr rework

And don’t get started on old middleburg it had incredibly dull colors and abysmal terrain

[meager garden]

I know lmao you’d think they’d learn on the second PBR map lmao

Not to mention WG HQ building is no longer and I don’t have much hope for the lab. Lol don’t get me started either xDDD

[ornate sand]

Himmelsdorf PBR when

[river canopy]

^^

Best map in the game needs PBR. Not worst map in the game (lookin at you Middleburg)

[wide shale]

maybe the reason why WG did castilla and middleburg PBR first is because they are learning how to do PBR on maps well so the more popular maps look great

[river canopy]

Touché

[wide shale]

I hope Faust still looks amazing and still remains night time when it gets PBR

[river canopy]

PBR really improves the lighting so it’ll be interesting to see

[wide shale]

Honestly will be super cool to see those spotlights searching the sky if the lighting goes well

And that missile fly through the air

[jovial walrus]

Bring Back the Sirrage and Lost Temple map

[left comet]

I miss sirrage 😔

[meager garden]

Sorrage moment.

[acoustic perch]

Sirrage was the best map, agreed

[river canopy]

I wish they would remove the bridge from New Bay, and just make the map entirely urban. The bridge is just such an unfun terrain feature. You can't push it, but you also can't lose the high ground.

[stone tendon]

Yep and it makes the rest of the map useless

[modern maple]

The bridge really isn‘t that hot of a spot

There is basically only one cross on the heavy side you can shoot from it while there are six entry ramps and campers in spawn won‘t be spotted by you

[stone tendon]

I know on EU players use the maps differently, like on black gold ville the town area is used sometimes. On NA it’s always bridge for new bay.

[modern maple]

You can legit drive under the bridge, cap the supremacy base and then just head to the heavy side with total impunity from anyone on the bridge

At least in my experience mostly mediums and TDs play the bridge on EU, and even then many drive under the bridge and fight there instead to avoid the TDs

When you won the bridge you either die to TDs or head to the heavy side/ defend against approaching heavies/ assist the heavy assault on the campers (in the base or on the heavy side)

[river canopy]

The thing about bridge, is that if you control the bridge, you control the spawns. Which effectively traps heavy side inside a bowl, in a crossfire

[modern maple]

You don‘t control the spawns because you can‘t spot the spawns

And even then, the heavies can just go right to an entry point (where the bridge meets the encounter cap) without you ever having a chance to shoot them (if you are anywhere on the bridge)

And because the ramp is quite steep they can play fully hulldown there

Oh and heavies can just camp unspotted down the road from the bridge and shoot anyone who attempts to fight the heavies making their way up the ramp

[tall plover]

What if it is replaced with something like a freeway being slightly more leveled with the spawn area? With some obstacles in the road, some buildings, and the railway still being in-between.

Just an idea.

[hardy pebble]

ghost factory should be balanced better
ntil then it should not be suitable for ratings

[forest rivet]

When will WG increase the minimap size on PC wotb? Too small for high-res screen.

[gray sundial]

Rip lost temple and desert oasis

[quaint juniper]

they will be brought back this year according to wg, i’m guessing on june

[lament widget]

My main complaint with new bay is the one spawn gets that tiny dirt area while the other gets the entire park. Obviously you can see how it may be unfair

[stone tendon]

Switch minimap images gfx and gfx 2, then edit dimensions of minimap frame in screens folder

[west moon]

Maps I want.

Swamp

Cave

Valley

[left comet]

Swamp and valley would defo be good

Cave is probably gonna end up with lt spam and hulldown everywhere

[forest rivet]

@stone tendon

I use Xbox PC version. Need WG!

[stone tendon]

Well if you use steam version you can do some crazy stuff

[left comet]

"why the minimap half the screen it's not mini anymore it's just map."

[forest rivet]

That's huge ❤️

[stoic solar]

a maus could hide right behind that map lol

[forest rivet]

@stone tendon How to do that? Any link to share?

[stoic solar]

that map is so detailed love it so much, just maybe a little smaller

[forest rivet]

I pasted the mod map to the Screens folder and 😭

[stone tendon]

It only works on steam though 😔

[junior fog]

no spoilers. dm him the link if you have to

[jovial walrus]

Wth..

[forest rivet]

I found the large map only works @1080 which defeats the purpose of the mod. Hope we can have a 4X and 5X choice in a future update.

[quaint bay]

nice minimap

[warped inlet]

bring back Mirage plz WG

[keen burrow]

Will WeeGee bring back lost temple & mirage?

[austere lark]

@quaint juniper It’s just too small for anything above like tier 7

[ocean egret]

#bringbacklosttemple

[quaint bay]

Yea

[opaque sequoia]

remov castilla 🙏🙏

[quaint juniper]

there are two types of castillia haters:

• The weak device player
• The impatient heavy

[opaque sequoia]

no

[bleak cloak]

I love castilla

The graphics are great and the map is nice and big, lots of areas for different types of tanks

Maps like Himmelsdorf really limit certain vehicles like TDs and LTs (to an extent)

[jovial python]

what was the setting again to turn off hd maps

[ocean egret]

indeed

[elfin moth]

Guyss on Wednesday during qna
Pleeee ask about maps, level design, in game music and pbr mapsss

[minor agate]

Copperfield still best map Plain simple and fast

[ocean egret]

Fort despair is the worst map plain and simple

[minor agate]

I am a sucker for smaller maps

[midnight agate]

Lots of open spaces to get sniped from high places

[meager vessel]

My personal opinion is that mines might be better in that case

[minor agate]

Mines prob on my 2nd place

[bleak cloak]

That… comes with losing the flank on all maps

[vivid valley]

they never said that 🧐

[vivid valley]

why is the categorization of maps so inconsistent? for instance, copperfield is a "summer" map and canyon is a "winter" map when both are obviously desert ones, they even feature cacti and desert bushes! its especially strange when you consider that black goldville barely looks the part of one. and even fort despair half looks like it could be situated in the desert. more strikingly, why is yukon called a "summer" map when its based in alaska and covered in snow throughout?

perhaps most of all though, why do we even keep these labels around? the whole reason why the differentiation was introduced was so that users could select distinct camouflages for each environment, in order to more successfully blend in with the natural colour scheme of each map. but WG has rendered this a moot point by bringing in 99% of warpaints that do not suit that purpose at all, to the extent where players choose to run their tanks without any skins in realistic mode despite the concealment bonus it would entail. of course, the other 1% (the initial versions, designed for their original purpose) never get used by the vast majority of us anymore

[quaint juniper]

Copperfield has no sand and Canyon features snow in almost all areas.

[prime pewter]

Castilla needs heavy side reworked. Just add more rocks for protection from medium side as if you try to push heavy side you just get farmed

[quaint juniper]

nah you’re just impatient. imo castillia is balanced

[prime pewter]

It’s not medium side is fine and the middle with b cap is fine to. Heavy side is vulnerable to the whole map, hulldown heavies get punished from medium side and other heavies just sit and trade with tds. If medium side falls heavies have no chance but is heavy side falls mediums are fine. It’s not balanced nor fun. You have to sit and wait for the other side to win or lose or you die trying to peak the enemy over the hill. There’s no fun gameplay

[snow bear]

It’s better than those hulldown maps

[jovial walrus]

#andsirrage

[keen hare]

IMO castilla should lower the amount of cover from the spawn bases but make the entire heavy hill covered. Basically force heavies to go up to the hill itself

[vivid valley]

so? there's no more sand on black goldville either

[red lake]

Black goldville is very reminiscent of the midwestern US canyons aka also deserts

[vivid valley]

midwestern US canyons r also very reminiscent of ... canyon, aka a ... winter (???) map!

[keen hare]

theres literally no canyons in the midwest unless maybe you consider appalachia midwestern but even then its not like blackgoldville

[lament widget]

There are also no deserts in the Midwest

[vivid valley]

lol 🤣

[river canopy]

Not sure if this is sarcasm…

The Midwest is literally the flattest part of the country

[red lake]

I was thinking of Nevada-Arizona and Midwest came to mind rather than just west

[vivid valley]

ah, the lush forests of california 😍

[warped inlet]

vote ✅ for mirage to comeback, vote ❌ for no, (I'm not a dev, so please forgive me WG)

vote✅ for lost temple to comeback, vote❌ for no (still not a dev, just want my voice to be heard and for democracy)

[wide shale]

❎

[vivid valley]

@warped inlet what exactly do u think ur gonna b able to achieve with all these "votes"?

[warped inlet]

IDK

[vivid valley]

they have literally been requested thousands of times, and WG is aware of just how many people would like to see their return

as for the sheridan missile, they would never decide to bring an event back for it simply based on a "democratic exercise" in their discord server, particularly not one that they didnt even host themselves!

[elfin moth]

My guy, its gonna come back
Devs know we want it and we loved it
As they said, the og plan was to make a few rebalnces and bring it back with pbr

But, they found out that the need for rebalancing was soooo much that they are re-making both the maps from ground up

Ie its gonna take some more time so just wait and chill bro

[vivid valley]

they never said that either map would get made over with pbr

[vivid valley]

it says PBR enhancements for the maps that are currently in the game, which neither lost mirage or temple counts as

[narrow vector]

No it said that they are going to come back in 2023( if everything goes well) but that the current maps are receiving PBR enhancements first so that will delay when mirage and lost temple come back until they are done working on whatever they are working on currently. Since those 2 maps need more than just a visual enhancement, rather a total rework.

[elfin moth]

Exactly @vivid valley
Ty good sir

[mild hare]

man, there are just some maps that are great for a certain class or awful for one. Like Castilla for slow heavies, you gotta be so careful of tds and meds on the hill. Or Himmelsdorf for a lot of tds. They can be really rough

[vivid valley]

as they said, the og plan was to make a few rebalances and bring it back with pbr
ok but your line from this message still doesnt compute

[elfin moth]

Yaa ik 😂

[vivid valley]

alright

[quaint bay]

Hello guys I think Minen is unfair HILL=WIN

[quaint juniper]

the real problem is not about the hills but because of its gameplay. i specifically wish that the hill control side of the map is more comfortable for light tanks

[clear gorge]

how do you win in mayan ruins

[clear gorge]

i hate that map so much its the bane of my existence

[wide shale]

You just go and fight for the center of the map

[elder bear]

w

[quaint juniper]

If you’re in a heavy tank with good turret armor, medium or light tank, go to the bridges. It is great for hulldown and for spotting.

If you’re a heavy support or tank destroyer, go to the hills by the ridgelines. It is great for farming damage if the enemy mediums are clueless.

Never go town in Mayan Ruins as it has barely versatile positions. Only go there if you want to snipe in a tank destroyer. Some bushes provjde good cover.

Don’t be fooled by the bushes in spawn as majority of them are bad for farming damage. If you have enough patience, it may work.

[random flax]

Please dear WG rework port bay its such a one sided map if you get the B spawn side then you win if you get the c side spawn the only way you win is by cap and sometimes that doesn’t even give you a chance at winning yes it depends on your team but if you dont push C hill and control it you loose

[brittle cliff]

WG needs to stop re-working maps and just put some of our money to new maps, NOT CAMOS, MAPS!! Why isn't Wasteland in the regular maps rotation instead of just burning games as that makes no sense. The maps are stale, predictable, hell just move the spawns 90 degrees, add deeper snow, heavier rain & snow to effect visibility, and darker night maps.

[quaint juniper]

1. The terrain for special game mode maps don’t matter, especially in fun modes. This is because these types of modes require no strategy or big brain positioning, just pure tomfoolery.

2. Adding special effects to maps will make the game even more unplayable for weaker devices. We already have Castillia lagging and crashing multiple devices.

[crude nebula]

I would still prefer new maps rather than nicer maps

[left comet]

who said it needed to be special effects? Pngs will do the job just fine

[wide shale]

The Wastleland map has a special event where a sandstorm comes in and clouds your physical vision, not sure about spotting range

[stoic solar]

is this an actual map?

[wide shale]

yes, the dusty map you play in Burning Games, with the broken Brooklyn bridge in the background and a bunch of cargo containers

[red lake]

It does affect view range when they first showed it off in 2018

[wide shale]

well now I know
pretty neat feature imo

[wheat portal]

Wizard profile picture 🤌

[wide shale]

thank you

[quaint bay]

Where to go as a heavy in fort despair

[quaint juniper]

if you’re in a heavy with good turret armor or a support heavy tank, go to the encounter cap. it features a nice hulldown spot.

if you’re any other heavy go to the C cap, it features some decent positions

[vivid valley]

which hull down spot ru referring to specifically?

[river canopy]

Literally anywhere other than C cap. Either go A corner, or play the hulldown on the encounter cap area

[wide shale]

Half my games end up going to C cap 💀
The enemy does it too

[river canopy]

C is a death trap. You can be crossfired from the balconies, from hulldowns by the encounter cap, from the spawns, etc…

It’s a worthless piece of ground that only works out of you’re steamrolling unintelligent enemies who made the similarly poor choice of going C

[wide shale]

i c

[pallid oar]

I c what you did there @wide shale

[wide shale]

😏

[ocean egret]

Make Fort despair for tier 6 and under, it is a horrible map for anything above.

1. It is one, if not the worse camper map within the game in which both sides horde TDS in their respective bushes and wait.

1A. The position is nearly impossible to push unless the heavy front falls.

2A. It traps mediums who cross as once you get on the opposite side its a flat - long stretch of road which faces multiple positions in which TDs can fire on you unopposed.

3A. Heavy side has the same problem, with the walls having countless TD positions, and the ruins making an impossible to push trap. It forces a slow and painful brawl as anyone who tries to push gets shot at by any hull down tanks on the position.

2. Its limited on spots you can go.

2A. Either far heavy side.
2B. Far medium side.
3B. Cap.

Both far flanks normally turn into slow brawls, as cap is just a campers game.

3. Its a small map.
   A good 1/5 of the map is just each sides spawn, and another large half is just outright not used or simply unusable.

[jolly rose]

Obviously, you have not watched RA1D’s 2018 play twister finals.

The map is fine. At higher tiers, people rarely camp in the back. It provides a decent amount of excitement and challenge for map control.

[ocean egret]

Remove the rocks and make that side of the map usuable 😱 then the map becomes more interesting

[knotty mirage]

Agree. Turn the 8 year players back into noobs again. Allow TDs to do their jobs instead of everyone just knowing the couple places they always must sit. It would be a real breath of fresh air for the game. Forget perfectly balanced beautiful maps. Just make them "good enough" and remove/add a new map every 2 months.

[vivid valley]

i enjoy having lots of different maps

[tawdry dagger]

Wrong chanel BTW

[undone lintel]

when girls UND panzer event back ?

[true hatch]

Does anyone remember the name of the map, that had the ,,pagoda" (this is the japanese building)
It also had some green hills on the other side of the map and two bridges.

[vivid valley]

yes, it was called tossed lempul

[flat charm]

I feel that on Normandy map, I always have to increase the screen brightness as it is quite dark. The other maps are fine tho. Not sure if anyone else experiences this.

[vivid valley]

they just need to bring night time vineyards back smh

[stone tendon]

If you can, increase screen contrast

[opal kettle]

Its too iconic to be removed

[ocean egret]

I didnt say remove it?

[elfin moth]

Heheh

[opal kettle]

Well it will be removed from the tour scene if its tier 6 or under.

I love that map, north spawn you reset AB and push into C.

South spawn you just push to the MT side corner.

[jolly cedar]

I hate that map

[ocean egret]

It sucks

[craggy cedar]

What map is best for jumping.

[quaint juniper]

hellas

[edgy ember]

Normandy is a good map

[stoic solar]

um copper mines is that what its called?

[ocean egret]

yes, thats beste

[dawn anvil]

Who got good spot on MiddleBurg map if i got this vehicule : Grille-15 or FV215b-183

[kindred scaffold]

Let's discuss the Lagoon map since we know it's next - thanks to QnA.
Any thoughts of it?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502008146630541333/855418909506142228/image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502008146630541333/855418882411462666/image.png

[quaint bay]

Wow

[stone tendon]

To me that means they are making PBR textures for it

[quaint bay]

Hey Wargaming!

When PBRing Maps. Keep Some Of The Sunsets! Sunsets Are Just As Realistic As A Blue Sky With Clouds!

(It Even Adds Beauty To The Map)

[elfin moth]

Agree

[ocean egret]

very bad map for TDS but this would be your safest bet
Stay away from hills because you will be targeted by every tank and its tech tree if you get spotted'

[full gate]

Bigger Himmelsdorf?

[quaint juniper]

doubt they will make maps bigger even though they are moving out of weak devices

[full gate]

https://youtu.be/jo4dXHSva7s

Source:OffiGetB

I have a bad feelin cuz the map looks like Lost temple I think WG remodel it🥲 idk if im correct

[quaint juniper]

so they’re basically testing four maps? revamped lost temple, revamped mirage, this map and the lagoon map

[tall plover]

Looks like a more leveled canal

[full gate]

5 actually lol

[quaint juniper]

the 5th one?

[tall plover]

Desert Sands are the next map to be changed to PBR version

[full gate]

I want a gamemode where it is 10vs10 in a big map instead of 15vs15

[quaint juniper]

oh right

[elfin moth]

looks kinda smoll xd

[blazing citrus]

lol, 10v10 isn't great idea tho, mm gonna be a bit longer, and cursed, because you can be able to see 5 kv2 if you get lucky, and if add 10v10 gamemode, the chsos will revive and evils of wargaming gonna make tournaments 15v15 and training rooms limit will be infinite!!

[quaint bay]

E

[meager garden]

More maps like canal

[quaint bay]

More maps like Faust & Rockfield

[wide shale]

More military base maps

[quaint bay]

More winter maps!

And more maps like Yukon (nature like)

[dawn anvil]

i want that old map waragming deleted it

[full gate]

Exactly wg should let us play in rooms

[dawn anvil]

ooooh this is good

[stoic solar]

i actually think that wg make blitz training rooms able to hold the monthly game modes as an option in the training room settings

it's an idea to think every one having fun with such game modes as gravity and big boss without fighting

[austere lark]

@stoic solar then no one would play standard games or the monthly modes in public matches…

[stoic solar]

true

[cobalt mist]

I mean they could do this one day per month but again, the point of Verstappen still stand

[obtuse kelp]

any news if blacklisting a map becomes a feature at some point? I really do genuinely viscerally hate getting on castilla every 3 games

[lament widget]

If you play it so much maybe you should be getting to the point where you know how to win on it

[obtuse kelp]

there's only so much I can control, but every game I've had devolves into a snipe fest, starting with 3 TD's per side, and one MT being effectively a faster TD

always tempted to just AFK cuz it's bs, but I also don't wana be that kind of guy either

inb4 someone tells me it's my fault the E100 is on the ridge, the MT's refuse to spot the city hill, and 5/7 of each team is just throwing rocks without moving

[pallid oar]

Honestly the map that I dread to get is dead rail

Iriskyn said they plan to make changes to dead rail, and I am all for it.

[hollow portal]

Everytime i play castilla i experience that , along with performance issues , middleburg is the only other pbr map that runs smoothly

[elfin moth]

Ye agree

[acoustic perch]

They probably realised they went too far with Castilla PBR, and then dialed it back with Middleburg PBR

[warped wing]

All these maps are boring

[stone tendon]

Even canal?

[stone tendon]

That’s one of my favourite maps

[kindred delta]

Person who made Yukon deserves their map making privileges revoked and should be forever banished from game dev industry

[wide shale]

but Yukon is such a nice map

[kindred delta]

Map design wise it's terrible and confusing not in a good way. It has only 1 good part

That being said I would like to see a system that allows you to pick liked and disliked maps to play more on maps you enjoy like in that other tank game

[wide shale]

there was a Q&A with the devs earlier and one Dev said map blacklisting would not be a thing

[kindred delta]

Sad. Also bad decision. Why make me play maps I hate

[wide shale]

there aren't that many maps in the game, so it's not worth making a blacklist option

[river canopy]

I would pay serious cash to never have to play middleburg again

[kindred delta]

I don't mind the number of maps, if out of 10 I throw out one bad and have to play the other 9, I'm all for it. It's way better than being frustrated about having to play the map I hate again

[wide shale]

at least Middleburg looks pretty now
it isn't all bad

[elfin moth]

Whyy?

[wide shale]

Sir this is #maps-discussion in the WoTb official server

[modest scroll]

i hate middle burge rewamp

it already bad map with dump ht now they more stupid

just look at this

[stone tendon]

Something something git gud 🤓

[warped wing]

They need to more players in one match and make maps bigger

[warped wing]

Bro I can still see the name. Why you hide in first place?

[stone tendon]

Just play wot pc. On lowest graphics it’s not demanding at all. I can play it without a graphics card

[warped wing]

Yeah

[worn sequoia]

Mine is the best map fr

[stone tendon]

well its one of the 4 maps you play when in tier 3

[worn sequoia]

And it's a map not for tier 10s. Well it's too small for tier 10s

[elfin moth]

Ssd or hdd?

[wary wraith]

I would donate my heart to a WG employee if it meant I could erase Mines from reality

[wary wraith]

That goes against the whole point of WoTB.

[warped wing]

But blitz kinda repetitive otherwise

[wary wraith]

I dunno what else to say to you man. This is the game and how it’s intended to be.

[obtuse pendant]

mines best map ong

[wary wraith]

You’re joking, right?

[stone tendon]

he works for wg

[stiff turret]

Just found out about desert sands Easter egg

[elfin moth]

So mines is getting a rework in which it's gonna be expanded/enlarged like the himmisldorph(rip german) map

[velvet crow]

🤡

[modern maple]

If you mean the recent PBR rework, that was on Middleburg not Himmelsdorf

[elfin moth]

Oh no no, I mean that the 1st map to be expanded and to have passed the closed beta (internal play testing, within ms-1) is himmelsdorph
The castel area has been expanded upon and the map is larger than the current 500^2 m but smaller than 1000^2m

The second one is mines, work on it is still underway

[river canopy]

Waitttttt, Himmelsdorf is getting the hill??

[wide shale]

We can have high ground?

[storm lintel]

😱

When u can play kran on himmelsdorf 🙃

[fallow junco]

Fix this texture pls

[elfin moth]

Yuppp, the castle area has been expanded, now playble⚡

Tbh it's been in the works since 2020, they had a problem in making it render for the lowest common denominator devices....
Dats why recently they have been stopping support for super old guy powered phones

[lament widget]

Source?

[stray oasis]

New middleberg isn't nice, very less elevation

[stone tendon]

Feels the same, just with pbr

[elfin moth]

BlitzHub EU and cmm

[lament widget]

Appreciate it

[elfin moth]

Anytime mate

[stone tendon]

Thank god that stupid map will no longer be a CSGO match

[lament widget]

I just hope they add a funny hole in the wall to jump from

[quaint bay]

Dont trust too much

[quaint bay]

Dead railway had a beautiful camping spot in one corner before they reworked it

[lament widget]

??

[quaint bay]

What

[lament widget]

When did dead rail get reworked?

[river canopy]

Update 3.5. All the way back in like 2017

[wary wraith]

Still has great camping spots in the corners tho

[lament widget]

That explains it then, thank you

[wispy beacon]

Anyone experiences middleburg map to be the worst after the Update? Graphics looks good but creates lag. My tablett iPad 21 is fairly new and wifi really good. Only map with lag in the game now. It requries rework and an update.

[lament widget]

Set your object and terrain quality to medium. Or whatever the second highest option is, I forget

[wispy beacon]

I can do that… but it is the only map requiring that. This is poor design from WOT design team. This must be improved!

[wide shale]

Castilla has the same graphics level, so Middleburg is not the only map requiring that

[wispy beacon]

Only map that lags is Middleburg. I honesty think it is an utter failure by the designers. An Almost new device should not struggle with any map.

[wary wraith]

Improving graphics will cause performance issues. It’s not the Dev’s fault that your device has issues.

[stone tendon]

The map is pretty demanding for sure, it’s the only one that makes my laptop fans spin

[left parrot]

Oooh I remember that. I remember I was like tier 4 on old dead rail and it was very fun sniping from south-east into the railways and buildings. Didn’t wg bring map reworks in training rooms back then? I remember reworked mines was first a training room exclusive before deciding it’s official

[mint python]

We All need new Tankk

[quaint bay]

I suggest to add more realism to maps like rain , snowy weather , sandstorm , .. etc

Plus some night maps with tanks equipped with lights

[dusty surge]

They are planning to do that.

[tacit oyster]

nah middle burg is fine

Himmelsdorf is such a terrible map in my opinion

[worldly juniper]

apparently if you shoot the tank inside the hangar doors on Rockfield the inscriptions of the One Ring pop up
idk i just thought it was interesting

[modern maple]

You don‘t need to shoot the tank, you just have to use sniper mode

[red lake]

No this is just already appears in sniper mode

[worldly juniper]

idk i guess the devs like lotr

[red lake]

There used to be another LOTR Easter eggs on the older version of the map

[river canopy]

bruh wut. Middleburg is the worst map in the game, and Himmelsdorf is the best

[quaint bay]

Rockfield is not best for lights lmao

[elfin moth]

Not designers, but the guys optimising it

[river canopy]

I didn't mention rockfield, or lights?

[candid spade]

What mapn that good for sniper like hellcat?

[left comet]

technically any map, though hellcat probably does better as close support

[jolly cedar]

Hellcat is not a snipers, it's pretty much a light

[wide shale]

Best lt at tier VI

[wary wraith]

In PC, not Blitz.

[warped wing]

Mod

[quaint bay]

Hi

[alpine otter]

That's going to absolutely destroy phones

[jolly cedar]

Then turn the effects off

[steel pagoda]

if one player will have snow and rain turned off, and other one will not, it would be unfair because the guy with snow off will see better

[jolly cedar]

And? Then that's the players problems

[steel pagoda]

💀

[steel pagoda]

then why would wg add thing that will only make game unbalanced?

[jolly cedar]

if wouldnt be unbalenced

[steel pagoda]

.

[jolly cedar]

rain or snow you can still see peoples nametags and if you dont like it turn it off

[steel pagoda]

meh

[left comet]

Perhaps it can be 2d for low res and 3d for high res players

[ancient flax]

that just sounds like a skill issue

[left comet]

true 💀

[tacit pagoda]

Rework middlesburg. Both town spawn exposed when crossing.

[worldly nest]

there is nothing wrong with that.

[lament widget]

how is this a problem when no one is spotted for the only period when people are in this spot

[tacit pagoda]

Slow tanks still get spotted. The match can be one sided as early as 15sec

[worldly nest]

you only take a 310-360 alpha shot. that is a difference but not enough to make it "one sided".

[tacit pagoda]

Not when td camp and focus fire. You say it like no one focus fire on every single match

[worldly nest]

What does focus fire have to do with...what?

[wary wraith]

Considering that TDs usually camp in that low corner spot or help support meds, no.

[olive bluff]

remove castilla

[stone tendon]

yea you made a mistake once and now the whole map needs to change 🤓

[wary wraith]

Or rework it into a more balanced map…

[tidal nebula]

Just dont cross on the inner side of the hill...

[torn bluff]

Morning all....i have an problem with new map....when i play on that map....my game start lagging, allot of ping...and minimum fps...all just on that map

[tacit pagoda]

After calming down and checking the replay, it was completely my own fault. Sorry for causing a ruckus here

[warped wing]

After careful assessment of your opinion, I have to a conclusion that your opinion sucks.

[tacit pagoda]

Yes my opinion sucks including my braincells

[left comet]

It's alright, atleast you admitted to it

[stone tendon]

I’ve never seen someone admit to that 🥲

[wary wraith]

Wholesome Blitz moment

[minor bluff]

will there be a new map? Or any returning naps

[modest niche]

Don't say that opinions are meant to be heard good or bad

[wary wraith]

At an indeterminate point in the future, yes.

However, if you narrow down your question, maybe you can get the answer you’re actually looking for?

[quaint bay]

!d bump

[limpid wasp]

Lost Temple

[stone tendon]

yes I agree

the temple is indeed lost 🧐

[zealous fiber]

Bruh how is this a valid location

If you’re lucky and cap all bases, sit there. With chat getting deleted if there is only one enemy left who’s eager to sit there too trying to shoot you you can win by points.
Almost happened there, guys sat for a solid minute shooting nothing because he was covered

Edit: HOLY COW that LT went on a killing spree when Allies were gone capping bases, he just won a Kolobanov

[quaint bay]

That's impressive

[tidal nebula]

That's sad. All you have to do is ignore him and it would be fine

[cobalt mist]

It might be stupid what i’ll say but I wonder if a Strv K can go there

[zealous fiber]

Maybe, but I think it scraps the point, as an Strv is probably too big to be completely out of range of anything possible

[stone tendon]

Hahaha someone found it 🤣

[honest oxide]

how the hell did he made it up there ? i tried severall times after the pbr was release and i just couldnt make it up the rocks

[cobalt mist]

I can show you later with a video

[knotty mirage]

I'd like to see. I use that spot in gravity, but I tried and tried to get up there during open test when the map got upgraded and couldn't get up there in any tank without jump jets. Yeah, show us.

[knotty quartz]

Fodiman1274#9381 was muted

Fodiman1274#9381 was muted

[left comet]

💀

[jolly rose]

DFM was using this spot on stream during last chance NA quali lol

[cobalt mist]

This

[cobalt mist]

I don’t remember if the T-100 of DFM was using speed booster when he did it (I’ll have to check) but it’s pretty easy to do with the speed booster.
On a failed attempt I managed to be stuck but with some wiggle I got out
Also, it can be done with other LTs such as the Batchat (It doesn’t need speed booster to reach it) fast LTs can do it

[honest oxide]

I got stuck the exact same way with my M4ID earlier x)
Thx for the videos dude

I think i need more training ^^"
Thx again

[hexed echo]

in my humble opinion new bay is like a ghost town no cars just a bunch of stuff to interact

[wide shale]

Well, you are right
But more modern cars might look weird, and the roads in New Bay are quite wide which would look weirder

[cobalt mist]

You’re welcome, yeah you might practice a bit before getting it, but you can do it! If you need help again ask me

[stone tendon]

You’re just going to get that climb blocked up by invisible walls by sharing it like this 🙄

[cobalt mist]

Fort Despair spot:

[stone tendon]

you need a team of 4 to get there

[cobalt mist]

True but still

[pure wedge]

anyone know what is the oldest map in wotb that still playable until today?

[stone tendon]

Portbay. Added in 1.1 and only thing that changed is the addition of invisible walls.

[honest eagle]

Hey everyone, how to be a pro in Canal map with 60tp tank cuz that's the only map I couldn't win properly

Just wanna know

[river canopy]

Go D

[honest eagle]

@river canopy You mean the blitz discussion , alright then

[indigo crown]

He means where the D point is in supremacy

[wary wraith]

Any map that was part of the game on release

[honest eagle]

@indigo crown Ah okay got it, thx

[low lodge]

I’m going to say Fort Despair. It’s had some cosmetic updates but the layout is the same. All other original maps have been removed or gone through some extreme changes

[tidal nebula]

That climb can be done with most tanks, just have to get the right set up is all

[cobalt mist]

You’re right

[quaint bay]

Should heavy tanks go town on port bay?

[river canopy]

Never go town on Port Bay

[quaint bay]

I've always told my team to not go to town but they never listen

[red lake]

In that case do what you can but generally accept your gonna lose 8/10 times when it happens

[wraith lichen]

Normally no, but when everyone goes there well its better than dying alone

[quaint bay]

Ysp

In middleburg should go hill or town ?

[zinc trout]

Hull

[low lodge]

Always hill on that map too. There are very few instance of successfully fighting from low ground especially when peaking around buildings

[wraith lichen]

Normally play around the hill as highground = higher vantage point but some situations (too much e100/maus/263/Fochs + supremacy) town might be viable but generally contest the hills first you can fall back to town when you feel like you will get overrunned

Can we enlarge Mines ? Or limit it to tier 7 max ? The map is so small and stale and team doesnt understand how to play in it 💀

[crimson tangle]

fr fr

[velvet crow]

facts: the train in alpenstadt map looks like a southern pacific gs-4 locomotive from the 1940s to 1950s

[queen ivy]

how did he get up there

[honest oxide]

https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/502022403497656340/1083506297263104070
dude made a video to show me
i dont quite have the technic yet... need more practicing

[zenith saffron]

Can we agree the new Middleburg kinda sucks?

[stone tendon]

Gameplay barely changed, so I don’t agree

[river canopy]

Middleburg was already the worst map in the game, and it’s still the worst map in the game, so yes, it sucks, but not because of the PBR change

[honest oxide]

i kinda enjoy it when my team goes hill

i hate it when my team goes town

[patent topaz]

dead rail would like a word with you

[wary wraith]

Kid named Mines:

[wide shale]

Mines is alright compared to Middleburg

Middleburg looks so much like:
Minecraft superflat world with village, oh but someone built a mountain

[meager vessel]

True

[honest eagle]

Exactly

[deft turret]

Middelburg rework has a serious problems with town side. One spawn is completely protected from a hill side while the other side is completely opened to a hill aka medium side. I don't know who at Wg designed it but going town if you are a one side is asking to lose. I don't know who designed it but that person or group of people aren't the sharpest tools on a shelf. You are pretty much forced to go always hill side non stop. Side about which I am talking is when you are looking from a city side to a hill the left side of a map. It LITERALLY has no hiding places from a mid med side. I don't want to swear but lack of brain cells on WG's part really makes you mad. One side on Middleburg is blatantly better then the other side.

[red lake]

Middleburg was always like that town is an instant loss most of the time and one side was better than the other

[river canopy]

Going town is a potato play anyway. It doesn’t matter what side you’re on, if you go town, you’re going to lose

[tidal nebula]

It has its uses, a full commit to town is more reliable than going hill because most games you can at least kill one or two stragglers or bait out with the base if your team is competent

[deft turret]

I don't see an argument in there. On med side it happens so often that someone's med or light pushes too much and gets blasted. You are instantly 1 less tank on the field. And if they are just enemy meds playing smart on enemy team they can just run away down while if you want chase after them you will have to watch out if their team will snipe you from bottom. Also going town play can result in you baiting enemies with captured flags. Also just because it's already a potato play it doesn't mean that it should be made to be even worse if it was bad already. That argument of yours is a complete junk. If you all rush town and clean it from unlucky enemy team, meds up there got a death sentence going down to confront heavies in open streets. I agree that going town is a more risky move and with less likely to pay off. I still can't force dumb players to not go town even more now that in EU you can't communicate with your team because WG are *. Your team goes town so you have to follow. So now you get even more punished if your team decides to play town. I actually would love a mechanics to ban Middleburg from maps that I can play on. Knowing how WG is lazy they will still brag about minimal graphics they improved and never care to fix a massive mistake by making one side blatantly worse.

But they will find time to implement invisible walls and restrict certain places because they are not so useful but fun to go to. In a true WG fashion, release the inbalance and delete the fun from the game.

I am toxic because this is a change that WG will most likely ignore to fix and most people won't even mind it existing because it's not as common as -30 000 credits each game or rockets everywhere. So don't take it to heart.

[nocturne mortar]

The best possible situation if you go town is that the reds go town too, and then it's an even, frontal corridor fight that you can't rotate round quickly, you can't rotate to support teammates or create crossfires easily, or force a push without bleeding a huge amount yourself. This all leads to a scenario where it's practically a 50/50 chance of winning no matter what you do.

Any other situations give you a worse chance of winning because you can't rotate through the town at all, so you have to resort to trying to hold bases. With 3 entry points and no crossfires you can't hold the bases for long enough to win. Oh and there's no way you are going to push the town fast enough if the reds split, and when in town you have cornered yourself so even with a tank advantage you are still unlikely to win.

So I'd agree with the potato play opinion lol

[deft turret]

Like I said. It's a potato play that works sometimes but your team will decide to just go there anyway so you have to follow through. No chat to coordinate and map town now being even worse for one side. It's not helping.

[scenic stirrup]

Нашёл это на карте виноградники

[wide shale]

Those soccer balls are all over the map

[cosmic stump]

how do you guys feel about CAMP/CAPstilla

[stone tendon]

2nd favorite map 🤓

[random sequoia]

dead rail is just a td farm fest

[near tiger]

I think canal should be removed from the game, super bad map

[honest oxide]

Grille on deadrail goes STONKS

[stone tendon]

🤓

[kind violet]

Everyone wants the map back, so where is it?

I don't think it takes 2+ years to rework a pretty good map

[stone tendon]

that map felt tiny I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with it

newbie nostalgia 🙄

I bet maybe 4 people here can tell me where the base capture location was on this map.

[red lake]

I genuinely don’t have good memories of it tbh

In tier 10 when it was available I remember it being really annoying with the waterfall and in low tiers forget winning your team was almost always gonna get theirselves killed off

[stuck mortar]

Hi can I ask can they put on top of the maps?

[river canopy]

No one can because the cap was totally irrelevant. 90% of the map was totally unusable because it was just a fight for one of the 2 corners

[honest oxide]

wait... there used to be a lac on this map and the sea on the other side
are you sure it's the good screenshot ??

idk if its the angleof the pic or whatnot but i honeslty dont recognize this map xD

[modern maple]

I also do not recognise this map. But the cap circle in Mirage was right in the centre (completely exposed) and on Lost Temple it was right behind the entrance to the temple complex when you came from the medium side. On both maps the caps were extremely exposed

Mirage

Lost Temple

[stone tendon]

I liked first lost temple more

Town was nicer and hills were useless in both

[modern maple]

I don‘t have a favourite. I liked both, though I am not that fussy about maps anyways. The only map I really dislike is Molendijk because of the annoying hills everywhere with massive gaps between that completely deny you any progress forwards from a position you captured

[stone tendon]

It’s pretty bad for slow tanks but the challenge is fun. Unlike mines if you don’t have a suitable tank it’s just painful.

[honest oxide]

So if this is not mirage, what is that map ? 🤨

[stone tendon]

Old oasis palms

[modern maple]

I actually played on that but it‘s such a long time ago that I forgot almost everything related to it. Unlike others like old Falls Creek or Desert Sands where I remember some peculiarities

[quaint bay]

Its my most hated map as Heavy Light and Medium Tanks .💀💀💀 You get spotted and all TD shot at you everywhere.

[river canopy]

You probably don’t remember because it didn’t exist for very long.

The map was sooooo bad that it the very first map to ever be reworked in Blitz.

Lots of old Blitz vets look at the map with rose colored glasses, but that map was hated on so badly at the time that it only existed in the game for about 9 months (update 1.4 to update 2.0). Lasted even less than missiles and spare parts…

[stone tendon]

Yea it was pretty bad but the massive dune was pretty hilarious. Plus the big elevation differences made the map felt massive. The whole gameplay was just fighting in corners though.

[random sequoia]

yh so many crossfires, but as a td enjoyer, it's my favourite map along with castilla

[lament widget]

Hills would be a stalemate and then someone would rush and it would fall into chaos

[deft gull]

wat map is this

[fair thunder]

nonexistent one

[deft gull]

Oh

[wary wraith]

Huh? I don’t understand what you mean.

[slim imp]

coming soon map

[deft gull]

I feel like they should make a jungle map with lots of mountains and tons of trees. The map should include mossy ruins, bridges, and a bunch of little streams

It would be a map of blending into the tons of bushs and trees to ambush the enemy. it would be a great place for those who want to use there skill in a map with challenges and obstacles in there way

if this was added because of I would be happy cause I have so many of ideas

[honest oxide]

a map with a lot of elements is a map that requiers a lot of work and a lot of RAM to be playable
it might be a bit difficult to create and to make it accesible for all players on all devices

[wary wraith]

Even better, just make a map that is all bushes, trees, and water, so that every single device just crashes when they load in.

[wary wraith]

Mayan Ruins

[stone tendon]

Mayan ruins has less than a dozen bushes you actually use

literally no trees are useful on it

[spring cosmos]

which map is actually the largest?

[pallid oar]

If I remember correctly, Normandy remains the largest map in the game. But most maps in Blitz are generally around the same size. Some may be a little bigger or smaller in terms of numbers.
Some maps may also just feel way smaller depending on how much actual playable space there is (e.g Dynasty Pearl) but have similar sizes to other maps

If you want specific sizes I believe you can check it out on map inspector

[dreamy wave]

It's been long since we got a new map. What's going on. WOT pc has gotten 3 maps since Molendik got into the game......Our devs are lazy af🤌🏾🤌🏾😕

[pallid oar]

Adding PBR to existing maps probably delays the development of new maps

Plus mirage and lost temple are still in the works. Alexandra said they may come back this year, that both these maps also needed a rework

[wary wraith]

That’s a surprise. I’ve always thought it was Castilla.

[tidal nebula]

Adding PBR does take a while, and blitz doesn't have an extremely large dev team either, so they take a bit longer than wot pc to churn out content

[foggy ember]

good memories bro

[honest oxide]

lost temple was fun with the bridges, hills and cover possibilities
not an easy map to play on, but it often was fun games

[stone tendon]

The temple position was too strong. That’s why it was removed.

[honest oxide]

it was good but still quite exposed
but yes, great players in OP tanks could make it complety broken

[past oxide]

Take away the row of houses protecting the temple and it should be fine

[honest oxide]

That row of houses was pretty useful when someone was capping and you needed to surprise them undetected.

Enter Full speed on one side, shoot the capper in the back, exit from the other side

Repeat till win

[obtuse pendant]

maps are good when they have city and hilly halves, half favoured for lights and meds with high mobility, and half favoured for well armored heavies that can use the cover to take advantage of their armor

[icy maple]

Those maps will get boring someday and we have a lot of them that are cities + random hills,i think wargaming just has to make them interesting

[honest oxide]

lagoon map should be different
beach and hills on one side, mountains and beach on an other

keeping the "covered/not covered" mecanic on a new field

should be nice

[river canopy]

This is literally the worst possible map design.

What happens is that the hilly area is just the dominant side of the map because hulldown cover is infinitely superior to no cover, so only half of the map is playable. Just look at all of the garbage mixed-type maps we have right now; Middleburg, Port Bay, Desert Sands, Black Goldville, all of them are literally just won by the team that has ore heavies that actually go hilly side instead of town.

If you make a map, it should either be purely open like Normandy, or purely urban like Himmelsdorf.

[modest stirrup]

Agreed

[wide shale]

Cities feel square and enclosed, they are not open and have corridor like sightlines, nobody wants to push a corridor if there is a chance 2+ TDS are at the far end waiting for them

Hilly areas with much terrain difference allows for easy use of hulldown, just hide half your tank and expose your gun and 1 weakspot (cupola), instead of peeking in a city leaving alot of your tank exposed while you take a shot

So yeah, we like hilly places instead of square cities

You also have a harder time spotting a flank in a city due to the enclosed environment
In hilly terrain without so many huge obstructions you are more likely to see people when they reposition

[red lake]

I’m confused about this what exact tier in context is this talking about because frontal weak spots pretty much do not exist on heavies after Tier 7 and even then speed and inaccuracy are so incredibly minuscule they’ll still keep with you at ok speed and hit shots regardless fast tanks esp in tier 8-9 are incredibly outmatched

[jolly cedar]

Is3 with its whole hull as a weak spot

There's a lot of heavys with weakspits mate

[obtuse pendant]

shouldve pinged me with this message, i never knew anyone responded.

first, no, tier 7+ heavies have weakspots, they are almost never invulnerable from the front (either cupolas, weak hulls, or machine gun ports)

second, most tanks that are heavily armored are also pretty slow, or have subpar guns (either dpm, accuracy, or alpha dmg etc), and will very easily be overwhelmed even by 1 or 2 decently mobile tanks in a hilly area (in a city area there is more solid cover and places to wedge any pesky tanks on your ass). the accuracy part is partially true for a few tanks but most guns take at least a little big to reaim even when only moving the turret to track a fast moving light or medium.

lastly, no, tier 8 or 9 fast tanks are still very good in the hands of a skilled player even against bs premium heavies and tds. the bourrasque is one of those op ass premium tanks but it shows that mobility and an above average gun can make a tank a very formidable opponent. the uh tier 9 sheridan thing (cant remember name) is devastating when used properly with its massive gun and good mobility (most of the time it doesnt even need mobility as having a big derp gun is good enough for a lot of tanks). in essence, map design should favour both slow heavily armoured tanks and fast lightly armoured tanks depending on what side the tanks play on, there should never be one specific map that causes one type of tank to outshine another.

[acoustic stag]

lower plate central plate for all the germans, big cupola for the mauschen (and maybe the maus too)

and if you're playing light, you can just circle them since the are so slow

[honest oxide]

Tbh the E75 has a really strong lower plate
Even difficult to pen with T8 APCR

[verbal flare]

Add Lost Temple

[misty lantern]

Are the other maps on holiday?

[honest oxide]

Its like... 1 chance out of 40 ?
It doesnt happen often but it happens

[thorn bison]

Add lost temple and mirage! Like this if you agree

[dim tulip]

So when is the FPS drop while looking through Middleburg Foliage going to be addressed?
You can't even use proper camoflauge since it just nukes your frame rate

[zenith saffron]

How u get 100k credits a game?#?#..?

[honest oxide]

premium account + premium tank...

[urban crown]

premium acc or medals like 1st class

[urban crown]

since when is the Leopard 1 a premium tank?

[honest oxide]

enriched ?
dumb choice but you never know x)

[urban crown]

ok thats right

but i think it was just an 2nd class or 1st class medal concidering that he got 2067 base XP.
I got 200K credits for 6K damage with my FV 215B 183 two days ago

[misty lantern]

Not enriched. I run credit boosters on tier 10 games. Plus it was x2 and I got a mission bonus. See below……

@zenith saffron

[wide shale]

you got a stack of silver

[ruby coyote]

It would be nice though if the center was also play-able on more maps too in all honesty.

I personally think some of the "special" mode maps should be added the to the regular map pool.

[quaint bay]

They are bots ( no real player’s).

[honest oxide]

poor SU100Y on the enemy team who tried to carry in a T6 x)

[cobalt mist]

Some of you can’t read channel names 💀

[wary wraith]

Wrong channel my guy

[quasi shuttle]

Why blur out your name if it’s the exact same as your discord username 🤣

[still pine]

When will the 3 old maps come back again (that one with the waterfall in a desert, The Chinese temple, and... wait was it 2 or 3 maps that got removed🤔?)

[honest oxide]

2 maps
No infos yet, we just know that they are being worked on.
Next map for blitz should be lagoon

[still pine]

Ok

[supple pelican]

i think we should have more glitches in the maps

[wheat stump]

Definitely lost temple, Mirage wasn’t good past tier 6 really

[gray sundial]

Back in the day, mirage was filled with seal clubbers in their pz2 Js

[rancid elbow]

They gotta bring back mirage

[eager wharf]

And lost temple

Temple is the map that has equal sides on the map that are slightly different, buildings to go behind and then the other sides, hills to go behind

[elfin moth]

Releasing new maps would be better 😦

[wise meadow]

That's nothing i ACE'd my Mäuschen at 110k credits (no premium)

[wet forge]

Привіт

[austere lark]

English only

[knotty quartz]

Mailand_001#9613 was muted.

[hazy beacon]

Yeaahhh lttb flying glitch.. sad it was patched

[supple pelican]

why do they patch glitches. it only makes the game less fun when they do that

[wide shale]

they aren't intended game features?

[candid spade]

There a song in this part of vineyard (sector 9)
What the name of it?
Kinda creepy, also kinda liked it

[knotty quartz]

саня з 20 етажкм#5209 has been warned.

[cosmic copper]

When's lost temple coming back

[lament widget]

I highly doubt it’s an actual song. I think it’s just a few seconds long sound byte they repeat every so often

[tidal nebula]

You can go to cd side and fight heavies if they go that way or go ab side and go hulldown right below the lighthouse area

Supremacy bases

Just easier to describe positions with bases

[gaunt heart]

I miss lost temple, i need it back!

[wet forge]

Dobre

[quaint bay]

Hallo
FPS they fall on map Middleburg only this map

[wary wraith]

It got improved graphics in 9.7. Turn your graphics down.

[wanton whale]

I also miss that one desert map (mirage or something like that)

[crisp forge]

I play to Germany tanks

but i love to US tanks

[analog rune]

And the lag got fixed with using the pbr.

[royal chasm]

and have fun tryna to hill climb on middleburg on the medium/light tanks side now theres a fat rock there was not supposed to be there now im alittle angry/stressed not happy

[wary wraith]

Kinda like you’re not meant to camp on that back hill in the first place…

[elder bear]

mirage

[radiant nexus]

Please get rid of Port Bay. Dismal bloody map…

[tidal nebula]

No one plays it intelligently is the problem mate

[lament widget]

obviously you havent seen the 2018 twister cup final

[zealous fiber]

I have

[zealous fiber]

You're referring to RA1D who has done the same, right?

[lament widget]

correct

[quaint bay]

imagine enemies just out there searching where is the grille

[honest oxide]

Its not that good of a spot tbh... just stay hidden behind buildings and you're fine.
But you first need to understand whats going on (wich is clear when there's a Grille on a comp match, on this precise map)

[lament widget]

If you know what to look for it’s easy to counter. And it’s often a negative for the team using it, as they need to have the majority of their team contribute to it, having like 2 people of their entire team fighting the first 2 or so minutes

[zealous fiber]

Lmao 2 minutes? 5 of them pushed us to hell in the first 40 seconds of the game

[ruby coyote]

Wait... how...

[wary wraith]

If you push a tank up that wall of the castle, then you can drive over it and onto that hill

[blazing citrus]

Its not lesta
Это не леста, эт варгеймиг

[river canopy]

Not the city part.

Never go city/town. It only works if you’re in something that claps in urban areas (autoloaders and superheavies) and the enemy is stupid enough to also go city

[kind fox]

How did you guys throw a 5v7

[zealous fiber]

2 of our members couldn't VC and went far right
so it was a 5v5, with Grille having shots time to time

[kind fox]

that’s a skill issue not a boost position issue, if you can’t win a brawl 5v7

That’s also not even the good boost position

[zealous fiber]

Dude. What don't you understand in "two members went far right"

[kind fox]

You were gonna lose anyways with 2 not in vc regardless, don’t complain about something that didn’t even cause you to lose

[zealous fiber]

It is, the screenshot is only 2 minutes in. They pushed in first 30 seconds while grille was still on wall. I don't know precisely how, but he had shots into us, right below the wall.
We almost won. The two guys on right pushed and pinned sides. It was close, so why are you being so aggressive and assume false situations?

[kind fox]

You are complaining about one of the most obvious things and you still lost to it

With 2 people not in vc don’t expect to be winning in any comp environment that’s semi decent, also your focus fire looks trash compared to them

[zealous fiber]

Yeah okay bud, very intresting things you're saying.
It's sure that no one else could have known that

[kind fox]

I mean look at it, you have a basically dead is4 and 2/3 hp Strv, they have 4 guys all shot, that’s your issue lmao, if they yolo push you you have the advantage, any top 64 team would understand that

@zealous fiber the grille has 1 position it can play, and it’s that boost, everywhere else it’s terrible

You also said it yourself, 2 people went right and were not in vc, your focus fire is clearly not it, these things led to you backing up into the grilles sight line to get nuked 🤷. If you can’t understand that comp isn’t for you bro @zealous fiber

[zealous fiber]

👌

[zealous dust]

i hope they never fix this LMAO

[tidal nebula]

It's always the people that don't seem to be able to read chat that go city, and then they just sit there and wait for the rest of the team to die

[river canopy]

Don’t worry though, they capped 2 supremacy bases 💀💀

[wide shale]

nah man, they tried to lure everyone off the hill in encounter 💀

[modern maple]

Which they succeed in - eventually

[tidal nebula]

If anything, heavies might hold the hill side and lights/meds cap the bases quick in supremacy. That strat has seldom worked for me, unless its a diamond ranked battle and everyone is communicating

[river canopy]

This will never stop being satisfying

[scenic stratus]

That hill is always such a bait

[kindred scaffold]

Well, some info regarding this.
This is not New Bay. It's map called "Bridge" in game files. It was tested in fall of 2018

[lament widget]

If it was done right I’d prefer this

[kindred scaffold]

Believe me, you wouldn't 😄

[lament widget]

It does seem a bit open

[kindred scaffold]

Yeah, kinda...

[red lake]

It’s both heavy brawl and if the bridges are accessible hulldown

[wide shale]

That map looks like it would end up as a campfest
I would bet nobody would cross the bridge due to crossfires and going in the dried river bed would mean loosing to the enemy team to high ground advantage

[elfin moth]

Bridge was the codename/ internal play test name
Sameways, Molendijk was called as Holland till the super-test phase

[lament widget]

It would be cool imo as a wasteland V2. Since we know the current wasteland takes place in a destroyed new bay, we could maybe have a continuation of that.
It would be funny imo to see people go flying off the bridge, or zooming between the ships.

[wide shale]

I agree, I would definitely jump off the bridge for fun

[stone tendon]

im convinced its better than new bay because its not a mixed map

Its like westfield from wot pc but with 2 bridges instead of 2 hills

[kindred scaffold]

Actually it's pretty well covered, so you can jump only on few places.

[kindred scaffold]

Molendijk

[wary wraith]

What tank are you using

[kindred scaffold]

Tank? For what? Man you are in #maps-discussion 😄 If you mean post from Pos1tive, then it's T110E4

[wary wraith]

Going to a position on a map is going to be influenced by the kind of tank a person uses.

[kindred scaffold]

Definitely

[wary wraith]

Hence why I asked

[faint patio]

If the river bed was shortended i could see this being viable, maybe add thin parts to the centre so you can cross but be shot from anywhere, make the bridge more entered so to not make spawn lopsided (like have it go through the centre of sectors 4-6 with the river bed running from 1 to 9, and have spawns in 3 and 7, could be viable with more cover imho

[bitter crater]

dead game

[rancid tinsel]

are you?

WG should bring old OG maps back

[obtuse pendant]

wrong channel lol

[obsidian depot]

Anyone else here battling with the middleburg map?
Eu server
All my games are fine
Internet is fine
Average ping is 200
Fps is average 60+
But as soon as i play on middleburg everything goes down the drain, audio, fps, ping, i get ping around 7k on that map...11k...ect...and package loss spikes up to 50% and above, any suggestions or any ideas on why this is happening? I will greatly appreciate it

[faint patio]

Lower everything, your device cannot handle it, or be like me, and pray to the RNGESUS thay you dont lag out

[vestal meteor]

Yeah, lower mostly everything, if that still makes your ping over 200 you should enter aim mode every 5-10 seconds to make the grass disappear, when I enter the map and go on the hills I need to do that too

[acoustic perch]

I mean tbh my ping is around 200-250 on every map

[vestal meteor]

Mine its 20-40 with almost max graphics, and yes I'm mobile player

[acoustic perch]

Pretty sure most of my friends play with 200+ ping aswell. So...

[obsidian depot]

Thanks!

[acoustic perch]

Tbh Middleburg seems to be more optimised compared to Castilla

[lament widget]

They probably learned from their mistakes and did better, which imo is acceptable

[sick flax]

too many people do not understand what a sniper does-- they think they are "campers"

[blazing citrus]

99% of snipers deals up to 1k dmg then pass away

[sick flax]

but it can be a big help to win, I average 2k and 1-2 kills

[blazing citrus]

Usually it's useless in my case. Every time i had a sniper in team it had 3 variants

1. He gets spotted, he deals 300-1k damage and dies giving my team bug disadvantage

2. He snipes but gets low amount of damage or assist 200-2k is nothing...

3. That rat doing Kolobanov and didn't help team

In 3 cases snipers didn't give any assist to my team, nor gave any useful information of enemies location

[sick flax]

sounds like they did not practice enough and or not get a good spot

a good sniper will knock off hundreds of points on mulitple players to help the team

[nocturne mortar]

Sniping is generally not helpful, and doing small amounts of damage spread between lots of people is also much much less helpful than a lot of damage to a single person. Getting guns down is much more important and sniping/camping spots tend to not let you do that.

[vestal meteor]

Mostly secondline and if allies low frontline, camping/sniping in jg its useless play grille if you want to do that

Btw don't ever camp in fv183 too, it gets spotted too eazy when it shoots or stay at 400m minimum

[rose vine]

In my opinions maps should be bigger, maybe 1.5x-2x bigger.

[austere lark]

You risk losing a decent chunk of players due to device capabilities with this

[rose vine]

So, maybe for players with worse performing devices could still play on small maps, and those with better could play on bigger.

[austere lark]

That’s not how it works

[rose vine]

Maybe something like a mode, that you can choose which size of map you could play?

[austere lark]

We don’t need maps bigger than canal for 7v7

[rose vine]

then it would be 8v8

[austere lark]

Again, you lose players to device capabilities

If you want more players and bigger maps there’s pot pc and console

[blazing citrus]

My laptop barely launches match on low req map, yet we need at least 200m addictive length for each map

[austere lark]

I wasn’t advocating for bigger maps

[stone tendon]

I don't see why WG would care if players who don't buy stuff ingame would be cut off from bigger maps

[austere lark]

How do you know what people play on and how much they spend?

[red lake]

Player reduction aside I genuinely don’t get why people want bigger maps or such games are already incredibly frustrating from a lot of issues many of the maps suffer. I don’t wanna see widhcbdoehe_steel_123 flank all the way across the wrong side of the map or chase and take the long side because he has chat off by default and possibly isn’t human

[frail latch]

How to play good on Faust

[wary wraith]

So you would want maps like Middleburg or Mines instead? Tight, limiting, and impossible for lights, mediums, or armourless TDs to play on?

[red lake]

Never did I say that and if you read my messages I express distaste for those I despise middleburg incredibly because of heavy dominance and mines is just agony

[indigo crown]

Isn't the only thing lights can do on mines is rush the centre hill? Then they deal with the enemy lights, and try to snipe brain dead TD not taking proper cover. And if you're a medium, good luck lol.

[wide shale]

Yes, you yolo hill and hope for the best

[tender hill]

Mines wouldn’t be so one dimensional if they removed the mounds at the mouth of the hill and exposed it to the lighthouse(windmill maybe ) and shrunk down the area cover by water

[quaint bay]

where can i find codes

[wary wraith]

You won’t.

[stone tendon]

if someone is using a machine that can barely run a mobile game what makes you think they have the money to buy pixels?

[stone tendon]

You would rather have half the maps in this game be a "sit on a ridge and brawl" simulator?

[red lake]

Again why are people putting words in my mouth? I hate maps that put power positions with ridges brawling is gonna happen eitherway you can’t really eliminate that in games

[stone tendon]

you can make them less useful in bigger maps as its harder to hold a position on them due to more cross fire oppertunites / flanking possibilites from your enemies.

Also there is no cure for idiots. No reason to make extremely simple maps inorder to cater to them, that would make the game mind numbing for everyone else.

[austere lark]

Maybe the fact that devices are far more expensive than micro transactions?

[modern maple]

What. Is that normal on NA?

[modern maple]

You can also flank on smaller maps, precisely because of the corridor style of the maps. It just means you need to clear the enemy spawn first which isn‘t easy but meh, if it was easy we‘d just see people yoloing around the maps

[river canopy]

Actually yes. You're kind of forced into it. If South spawn takes the hill, then it's pretty much GG.

It's really my main issue with Mines; South spawn mediums start closer to the hill even though they derive far greater advantage from hill control.

[modern maple]

Nobody is forced to participate in this yolo fiesta, and I don‘t think the hill is that strong if the TDs position themselves in the typical spots

Like the last time I saw this kind of gameplay on Mines was around three years ago on tier three

[river canopy]

The thing about the hill is that the guy on the hill doesn't get to do that much damage, but his very presence still winds up being hugely influential.

If there's a guy on the hill, then he forces the enemy down away from the hill center, allowing the other side to take up those positions.

If you're North spawn, that's game over. Your TDs can't fire without getting shredded, so it's only a matter of time before you lose.

[modern maple]

Kinda depends, north spawn can deny the one on the hill to peek the hill entry by having someone on the lighthouse island

Plus you can use the rocks as an intermediate fallback solution

[river canopy]

The hill guy doesn't need to deal damage. All of the damage comes from his teammates sitting on the middle ridge. The guy on the hill prevents you from contesting the guys in the middle

[modern maple]

If he cannot peek he cannot establish a crossfire so he cannot push anyone back so his team cannot take the ridge

You can also counter the hill position to a degree from the northern red line

[river canopy]

Also, trying to suppress the hill from the island is dangerous business. Even when the hill guy peeks, he's hulldown, and if you get spotted on the north half of the island, the TDs from south spawn can shoot you

[modern maple]

That‘s not true

There is precisely one camper spot that can shoot at one of the possible positions, but only if you use it weirdly

Yes, that is the gap. And you have to position yourself exactly in that gap, otherwise no camper can shoot you

The two possible positions are these, one is hulldown and one is using vision mechanics

Also, the hulldown of the counter position is way better than the hulldown of the hill entry because it‘s a lot flatter

[nocturne mortar]

You don't have to be safely doing damage to create a crossfire, just being there as a threat is normally enough to get attention from people on the hill which then opened up the sides of the reds turrets.

[modern maple]

Well, once, maybe. But that‘s not enough to win

[wide shale]

Yeah, gameplay wise it sucks
But if you ignore that it can be fun

[frail latch]

How to play on Faust

[stone tendon]

alt f4

[frail latch]

Ok

[quaint bay]

New maps ? When ?

Add some night mode maps using ligthts installed on tanks to view or UV vision

[tired helm]

Please re add Lost Temple it was one of the best Maps ever

[normal isle]

I wanna mirage and temple back

[south harness]

Hey does anyone have anygood spotting locations that are good for the bc 25 t

[heavy mica]

Bushes always fix things

[ruby haven]

On which maps do you have issues spotting for your team?

[lethal depot]

go A

[pure field]

Man I loved those maps...

[urban osprey]

when new map

[balmy light]

How Can I play on the Moon Map? Excepted in game mode?

[zealous dust]

Only fun game modes, have that map, random or ratings dont have it

[balmy light]

So impossible in practise?

[wary wraith]

More specifically: Only Gravity Force has that map.

[wise meadow]

Is camping in tiger ok?

[mystic ether]

No

[wise meadow]

Why

[mystic ether]

Its a frontline heavy not for camping

[left comet]

oh yes very much, quite good for that historical feel(joke please do not camp in any ht)

[remote halo]

could you be one of those typical asia player that i had to thumbsdown after match cuz they costed the whole match?

[wise meadow]

@remote halo maybe u will be that dude in the 33 damage game i had to carry
(I got 2.5k or smth)

In a Tiger P sandsturm

[remote halo]

2.5k is what i usually do in hellcat, a literal tier 6 td and 2.5k for tiger p is hell of a low

[wise meadow]

@remote halo its a TD bruh
U get high alpha

[remote halo]

hellcat alpha is 225
and you even thinking of camping in a heavy

[wise meadow]

Im bored of frontlining
Circling
And Hulldown
Now camping experience
Why not

[remote halo]

smh

i was right, you are one of those useless people

if you want to camp use the right tank you dense head

[icy maple]

Hellcat has similar alpha and its more of a light than a TD, not to mention tiger p has armour and hp

[remote halo]

and literally a tier higher than it
2.5k dmg in tiger p is not even a carry

[wise meadow]

@icy maple u don't wanna ask About the Armor
206 front
88 sides
Or rear is 70 or smth
Whackyer Armor profile than the cheiftian mk 6

Sidescreping is like showing your entire flat part to the enemy straight

[icy maple]

So?? We are talking about hellcat and tiger p not chieftan lol

[remote halo]

and whats your point?
comparing a tier 7 with a tier 10 whats in your head dude

[wise meadow]

Peekabo is the best

@icy maple taking about Armor profile you bread sausage

Gtg

[icy maple]

Ok going to insults is basically no worth my efforts since i automatically get ur a moron, cant even take an example

[zealous dust]

Yes.

[wide crest]

Man they should add mirage back. It was a damn good looking map. And make it pbr.

[tame saddle]

Agreed

also make maps bigger

[tame saddle]

Rework dead rail

[wary wraith]

No! No! Bad! Why would you even think that?!

[noble sentinel]

We need more maps!!!!!!!!!

[wary wraith]

Not really. Existing maps should be rebalanced first.

[pale badge]

No dude. More maps. They got stale a while back

[wide shale]

More active military bases like Faust yes

[lavish cosmos]

Especially Mirage, i have lots of memories plsying on that map.

[shrewd portal]

And yet we still play the game

[pale badge]

I bet it would be Peenemunde if you ask for that. It’s in soooo many games. Would be cool though, like yamato harbor and Faust had a baby. @shrewd portal ikr, but hey it’s still fun

[stone tendon]

i dont 🤣

[modern maple]

Nobody asked for this opinion but Molendijk is literally a massive garbage map, more garbage than any other map out there

[honest monolith]

Still doesn't beat dead rail

[ornate sand]

Dead Rail is my favorite Camping ground in my TD, same to Canal

[modern maple]

Oh yeah and good luck capitalising from a won medium flank, because you need to cross open ground into superior sniping positions to get into the enemy‘s back, which is just a complete joke in terms of map design

A medium can literally better work in the city because there you have at least the option to switch lanes and use different angles of attack because it‘s not just one ditch

[stone tendon]

I like that map a lot, it’s very rude but there’s a lot of potential in what you can do in it.

Same as Castilla, map is rude but there’s a lot of potential of what you can do IF you do the right thing and the circumstances areant against you. It’s unpredictable and fun like that.

[modern maple]

I would not compare it to Castilla at all, Castilla doesn‘t shove your face into the enemy, and gives quite a few options to play it

[analog slate]

i’m not really fond of that map

really easy to be nuked anywhere in the map

[ember horizon]

Canals and Dead rails playstyles are basically being hd and waiting enemy to make a stupid mistake and letting your tds just farm them. And who ever wins the medium side usually wins the whole game.

[slender siren]

How do you go up the map in rock field? I’ve seen it done in comp but I can’t find where

[honest monolith]

Yea good luck pushing the hill

[modern maple]

What do you gain by pushing the hill? Like why would you even want to do that?

I mean yes, it‘s difficult and nearly impossible if the enemy positions themselves intelligently, but it is also pointless so why even bother?

[stone tendon]

Just play around in the training rooms

[tame saddle]

Any1 agree wg should rework deadrail

Also make maps bigger

[vestal meteor]

Deadrails isn't even bad wdym
And if you want bigger maps world of tanks awaits you, blitz it's mostly made for mobile players and not all devices would support bigger maps, some players play blitz due that it has smaller maps

[river canopy]

What spot are you talking about?

[stone tendon]

I would imagine this one

[river canopy]

Ah yes, the classic vertical flank

[stone tendon]

It’s very satisfying to pull off and have it work properly

[velvet crow]

anyone can make wot blitz maps tier list?

[slender siren]

I think that is the one. How do you get there?

[slender siren]

I did and couldn’t see how

[stone tendon]

I’m not going to say because i don’t want the climb to get blocked. Last time some dork showed how to do a climb on middleburg and it instantly got blocked.

[river canopy]

I’m slightly less concerned about this one though, since it actually WAS blocked at one point. The WG unblocked it. And it’s featured in one of WG’s videos

[quaint bay]

Hey, anybody know any good TD spots on Middleburg?

I look around and I don’t see many good spots to sit and provide fire support.. anybody got some?

[wide shale]

From the hill: back corners have some elevated positions that give you a sightline straight down by the 2 hills
Town: (granted don’t go town in general) the corners again, they have the same elevated positions and have clear sights down by the buildings
If your game ends up hill vs town you can sit anywhere along the hill and shoot people who peek town

[obtuse pendant]

is middleburg town just garbage? i tend to win matches very often even if my team goes town, supremacy or encounter

[prisma halo]

10.0

[urban osprey]

Thanks 🫡

[kind fox]

Not always, depends on lineups mostly, in pubs up top is typically better cause you can carry better, but comp is mostly town focused because of the double cap

[river canopy]

It's just garbage. The only way town ever works is if the enemy team is also stupid enough to go town, and you're in tanks that allow you to steam roll them (heavy autoloaders, superheavies)

[ancient flax]

always happens on eu

[blazing citrus]

what does superheavies stands for? Like which tanks if exactly

[river canopy]

Tanks like Maus, E-100, etc..., prety much tank that weighs over 80t

[meager vessel]

How about another map like himmelsdorf? One that is flat, Has decent hulldown positions and hallways. Himmelsdorf is one of my favourites the other one being Faust

[red lake]

Ah yes another map catered almost exclusively to heavies

[meager vessel]

Dude i play mostly td or med and i love that map, cause i think it is quite balanced. Heavies like maus and e 100 have to angle. Low gun depression tanks can still do stuff. There is a clear middle, heavy flank and med flank

[red lake]

It’s not if you played any high tier games in himmelsdorf they always end in two ways one being : your med side clears out the tracks and is enroute for flanking , your heavies get steamrolled and barely chip into the enemy heavies. one being ,You brawl for your life and come out victorious taken a lot of damage only to see your team crumbled and failed to inflict any damage

[meager vessel]

I won a 1v7 in a grille on that map, try me bro. I have dozens of high tier games there but they are still fun

[red lake]

Uhuh I got a raisin in T49 on it and multiple kolos your point being

[meager vessel]

That i like that map and it can turn out in other ways then those you listed

But just saying. One more flat map cant hurt since we only have one

[red lake]

We’ll just have to disagree then I don’t enjoy himmelsdorf in any tank class or in particular

[meager vessel]

Okay. But what about a map like the desert one without rail where one side is lower and the other above. So there is only two elevation points and not like castilla

Add a few ruins or some cover and i think it could be good to have more of these maps where you don’t have to worry about gun depression that much

[river canopy]

Himmelsdorf is unironically the best map in the game

[wide shale]

I disagree

[blazing citrus]

best tactics for LT/MT(TD)

TDs are biiig line or X
LTs/mts are --- or —

X are useless

[stone tendon]

I would like it if the rails area was open like on PC

[dreamy wave]

When are we getting a new map??????

[quartz zephyr]

never?

[prisma halo]

10.0

[dreamy wave]

It's been a year and 3 months since we got a map.

[dreamy wave]

There are no leaks

[prisma halo]

Lagoon will be the new map in 10.0

[dreamy wave]

Well let's hope so

[prisma halo]

We’ll test update 10.0 soon , we’ll see if there is a new map

[eager wharf]

There should be a mountain map of some sort

[quaint bay]

i hope there is something new and big

[prisma halo]

Lagoon ( mirage 2.0 ) will be a rlly cool map

[dreamy wave]

Inform here when you do

[prisma halo]

I will do a video on my YT channel

[slender siren]

Actually?

[prisma halo]

Ye

[slender siren]

Hmmmm. Isn’t that a ways away?

[prisma halo]

They said there will be a new map in 10.0

[pearl wind]

2 new maps

[wary wraith]

Wargaming has not confirmed anything. We can only speculate with the few clues we have been given.

[wary wraith]

Not really. 10.0 open test has just begun receiving applications.

[quaint bay]

these are the only ones i got from you and know

kinda wish they put a TD bush in the top right and bottom right corners.
i feel useless playing any sort of sniper on this map

Please forgive me if i missed anything, i dont really like this map.

[prisma halo]

We’ll see

[wide shale]

The blue areas too

[quaint bay]

Hm....

[nocturne mortar]

The west most red positions aren't useful, you have very few shots down one corridor that's unlikely for people to use. On top of that you either have no spotters so are even less likely to be useful, or there's a green there who's basically covering the corridor without your help.

[river canopy]

Those spots on the 1 line are bad for TDs, but they can be very strong for heavies with -10 gun depression if the enemy goes town. One tank sitting in that hulldown can stonewall an entire enemy team if they go town, and also prevent them from calling the nearest supremacy base

[unborn bison]

Can anyone show me the best places to go hull down on the most popular maps (both encounter and supremacy)

If it matters the tanks this applies to are t29 and kv1

[velvet crow]

and make a tier list of the maps in wot blitz

[stone tendon]

part of being a good player is adapting to the terrain you have to work with

[unborn bison]

Im trying

Some maps are hard for me to go hull down so i wanna know if there are any spots i dont know about , like in desert sands

[stone tendon]

If you are not top tier in desert sands then don’t frontline, let other tanks do that, or you can try rotating around the town area and making a cross fire… but that only works depending on the situation of your game

in urban maps like these you don’t have much of a choice in what to do

[unborn bison]

And in a map like canal what am i supose to do with lets say a t29 in the start of a game

Like where am i supose to go if most of my and the enemy team are tier 8s

[stone tendon]

I would go hills side with mediums personally

[stone tendon]

If you were top tier then you could probably work the middle and try and spot their tds though

[unborn bison]

Thx

[river canopy]

Medium side. Also, T29 is basically a tier 8. The turret is better than a lot of tier 8 heavies, and the gun is the same as the T32's gun

[unborn bison]

But the body has like 0 armor so thats y im asking for places to go hull down

[remote halo]

you dont need specific place to hulldown
anything or anywhere you can use to to hide your hull and still can get a shot to enemy will do

[past oxide]

Middle if you want to get quick shots on the heavy tanks

[quaint bay]

They yoinked the "pool" and waterfall!

[quaint bay]

I love that yellow green hue Rockfield has

#1 thing i want WG to keep even in PBR

[wary wraith]

I loved the skies that Middleburg had. We lost those.

[elfin moth]

Lagoon map

[kindred scaffold]

Cool

They really did great job, with rework to PBR

[elfin moth]

Yeah

[kindred scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481758963936002050/1100830099407896696/TBLITZ-Lagoon_Map_Video.mp4

Cool! Yoinked from Tanks Blitz discord

[stone tendon]

That looks incredible

I really wish they would add more usable foliage though

[wary wraith]

They’ll likely add a bit more before the map is released.

[buoyant whale]

i hope they do

lol

[past oxide]

Looks huge

[analog rune]

Don’t get your hopes high, all maps in blitz are like 500m²
If this one a 600m² it’s gonna be a huge achievement

[elfin moth]

Good map ngl

[stone tendon]

Normandy is 550m2 while fort despair is 470m2, a lot of different sizes

[past oxide]

Yeah, Fort despair seems significant smaller than some of the other maps, and it has has a large inaccessible area in the corner (I know it’s technically accessible but it’s relatively hard to get there)

[stone tendon]

You can see all map sizes on map inspector

[kindred scaffold]

I think the version, that on Suptest was 500*500, I'll take a look after this OpenTest

[stone tendon]

Should feel large either way considering the elevation differences in seeing

[quaint bay]

Give the new map a new map theme song!! 🔥

[lament widget]

Give each existing map its own theme song

[tame saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-libre-why-but-gif-23595404

they fine as is

[quaint bay]

Bingo! Make each one unique

[prisma halo]

Lagoon need desert sand music

[wary wraith]

Not really

[lament widget]

or just import ones from wot or something

as in like mines has the mines song from pc, himmels has himmels song...

for maps that don't exist either new tracks could be made or swapped, like port bay could have the live oaks theme, as theyre pretty similar in map location.

it would also be pretty cool if they lasted longer into the battle than the timer countdown

[wary wraith]

Mines has the Himmel song

[lament widget]

Ik, what I’m saying is blitz should be like pc where each map has its own original song

[rough bear]

Why are there so many maps tds are useless

[prime pewter]

Maps are to small for back line tds, for example the new epsilon where is it supposed to go no armour and gun depression. You are forced to sit in one of the 2 or 3 bushes near spawn and try not to get blind fired

[rough bear]

The only good td maps are dessert no train, canal, maybe canyon and like bg

[honest oxide]

fort despair has great TD spots too
himseldof has decent spots, you need to know how to use them
Mines and desert sands are TD campfests
Normandy has the 2 bunker spots and 2 houses spots in the 4 corners of the map that are great too....
I dont know what you are complaining about, most of the maps have good TD spots, you just need to know how to use them

[river canopy]

Himmelsdorf is a pretty bad TD map, ngl. I love Himmelsdorf, but if there’s one thing I don’t wanna do, it’s play Himmelsdorf in a turretless TD

[honest oxide]

clearly not the best but still workable
my point was there is not a single map on which TDs are useless
all of them are at least workable

[river canopy]

TDs (excluding the hulldown assault TDs) are 100% useless on Port Bay, and Middleburg. Himmelsdorf and Dynasty are pretty bad too

[honest oxide]

port bay is a tricky one for sure, maybe the worst in my opinion
but i find the others workable tbh
if you dont have cover, use your teamates (without blocking them ofc)

[stone tendon]

you need to be creative on port bay

[wary wraith]

That sounds like a skill issue to me fam. Most maps have many spots for TDs to do well on.

[granite ermine]

Is this worth to enrich ?

[modern maple]

No

[modern maple]

As a rule of thumb, only tanks you plan to play well over a thousand battles are worthy to enrich

[ornate sand]

Yes

[urban swift]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[granite ermine]

Ok

[wary wraith]

I’d only suggest enriching tanks that you’re going to keep for a long time. For instance, I plan on enriching my SP I C because I love it too much to sell.

[quaint bay]

I Love It And Maybe You Guys Do Too

[kindred scaffold]

Most of the boosts, were edited (WG added "InvisibleWalls" there) so most of them doesn't work anymore. Because most of the maps are not fully mirrored, one spawn can have the boost, other not. Which makes for an unbalanced map. More precisely, one side always has an advantage.

Great example used to be canal, there was boost for light / medium tanks, which could boost there on their own + Bush was on top, so you had even greater camo bonus. This was never the intended map design.

[wary wraith]

They added invisible walls to certain climbing areas because it creates an imbalance in gameplay. They did this for the hill on Port Bay for that purpose.

[velvet crow]

how to get this image

[river canopy]

map.wotinspector.com

[velvet crow]

it's not available for armour inspector app? are there any wot blitz apps or websites that show heatmaps, or the right or wrong places players gone in game

[kindred scaffold]

Sorry, not available there. Also heatpmaps are little bit outdated - There is just a lot work to do and creating heatmaps takes a lot of time.
https://wotinspector.com/en/heatmaps/?ts=1618418697&id=20&platform=blitz

[quaint bay]

when you revive those two lost temple and mirage do not change any structure pls. I just want to see them like as before but better quality

[lament widget]

why would they remove them from the game just to do that. theyre obviously changing the overall structure of it.

[red lake]

Those two maps sucked to play on

[river canopy]

Based

[red lake]

I’m being serious about it too

[river canopy]

Ye. I know. All these people coming in here wanting them back, and you’re here spitting facts lol

[red lake]

Mirage or whatever was so unfun to play on in T10 I remember and lost temple sucked in any high tier gameplay esp when the IS started receiving buffs I still have burned in memories of those dam things hitting me at full speed while traversing their hull and turret in drac

Mirage was only enjoyable low tier

Lost temple the worst offender

Crowded horrid gameplay and as much as we hate hulldown positions now that map was literally who got the power position in the stupid temple court first and was your team smart enough to cover the crossfire

[lament widget]

mirage was available in high tier? i only remember it being up to t7. maybe im confusing

[red lake]

It used to be available for upto tier 10 but it was horrid gameplay

[quaint bay]

And the bridge on the city map

[quaint bay]

I didnt like that one

[quaint bay]

I remember fighting in low tier on Mirage

[stone tendon]

very very briefly, then limited to tier 8, then limited to tier 7

[meager garden]

Skill issue.

[raw harness]

We could get prizes by finding easter eggs

[quaint bay]

what prize

I spent a lot of battles just shooting at the window for the sandworm, and another window for tankenstein room

[thick dew]

So guys, I never played or tested the lagoon map, if so, the lagoon will be also available on training room?

[jolly cedar]

all maps will be available in training rooms

[thick dew]

Including the lagoon?

[wary wraith]

Lagoon will only be available once 10.0 drops.

[thick dew]

Ok

[rare jacinth]

can you shoot down planes

[wide shale]

In the few maps that planes exist, you cannot

[rare jacinth]

i wanted to shoot that one plane that goes really low on normandy

[hexed echo]

wg should add more maps only for game modes gravity mode has the moon and permafrost and mad games has wasteland

[wide shale]

realistic mode only map that is just a big open plain with a few short hills

[wary wraith]

Yes pls

[tacit pagoda]

Should mines be available from tier 7+? I feel like its too small

[past oxide]

Mines should be removed from the game

[quartz zephyr]

no

[past oxide]

Remove every bush and rock from mines

[wary wraith]

No

[stone tendon]

🤣

[ruby coyote]

Yes, preferably with 2000m+ rangz

[quaint bay]

Update the map Normandy, No one goes to the beach at all

[quartz zephyr]

some people do

[stone tendon]

You can use it for flanking in the right situations if you’re in a light tank or e25

[wary wraith]

Maybe because there’s no reason to?

[lament widget]

if they remove the beach then theres nothing comparing it to the normandy beaches IRL at all, which is what wargaming it going after. its like removing the city of new bay from the map new bay.

[midnight fractal]

Eh the map itself isnt named after normandy beaches but the land itself. Its really not what anyone thinks of when thinking of normandy, which would be either a sea-land assault like the débarquement (not a land land confrontation) or vast agricultural fields. (Or horsemen and conquest if you're really quircky). The map is sort of a flavour fail imo

[lament widget]

I realize there’s an entire region of france called Normandy, I should know as i went to it and both of the American beaches last year. What I’m just trying to say is that when people think Normandy in war, they think the beaches

[midnight fractal]

true and valid. I hope we get a sea-land assault map someday to fullfil that true normandy/provence/sicily american & cie experience

[lament widget]

the lagoon map looks kinda like that, like old mirage.
with the military influence near the shore, but the farther inland you go the more it becomes native land

[ruby coyote]

Hard part is Making it balanced

[midnight fractal]

hey tell that to the germans

[midnight fractal]

Any ressources on how to learn maps and sniping spots for TDs?

[wary wraith]

N90 has a good guide for Dynasty’s Pearl. I figure that he’ll likely post more.

[nocturne inlet]

Not every TD is for sniping…

[midnight fractal]

thank you that'll help !

[wary wraith]

He never said that.

[civic phoenix]

I think its time to remove Dead Rail from MM. Its the most boring map to play on and the least flexible map. I am trying to be more passive on that map, and its working. But the problem is that when the meds side loose, the game is pretty much over

[austere lark]

So help the med side

[river canopy]

^

Believe it or not, it's possible to traverse your tank 90 degrees, contrary to what most heavy players seem to think

[austere lark]

Dead rail is a map for commitment. You can push the med side or the low heavy side effectively if you work together but that takes thinking and coordination

[lone cradle]

Black goldville is a hellhole, everyone goes A, and there is somehow always 2 heavies all the way at C to find absolutely no one on one of the 2 teams. They wont be able to do anything for their team for the entire game as the map is massive- it’s fun for esport matches but for randoms it kinda sucks

[hushed meadow]

What’s the worst map, i think it’s dead rail, it has to get a re work

[indigo crown]

Mines. Too small

[uncut pike]

I sure love it when I’ve already taken half HP damage before I even loaded in yet when it’s mines

[indigo crown]

Mines upto T6 is great. Newbies don't keep watch on either flank, nor are they mindful of TDs when they peek centre hill. But yeah, I hate when I get mines in T8... Whoever has more hulldown, wins

[zealous fiber]

Just reserve mines to below tier 7 and problem is fixed. Mines being small is kind of the point of that map.

The worst map for me is shared by dead rail and Dynasty Pearl. My guy above said that if heavies goes C they're useless but have you seen Dynasty's Pearl?

[stone tendon]

You know that C area actually used to be pretty useful since you could create a crossfire and shoot people who were going caves. Now it’s completely useless.

[atomic notch]

[rigid dragon]

i wish blitz could once update the normandy, making one spawn in the beach and one in forest and making it longer.

[red lake]

Hell no

[supple yacht]

Grille 15 MBT