vehicles-discussion

[plucky summit]

🫂

[hard cedar]

rival will win spring season! 🤝

[thorny basin]

Ok thx

[plucky summit]

Not if I get put in 😂

[hard cedar]

[RIVAL] Affliction

[nimble topaz]

tiger p with 50% hp left 😂 FUN FACT: HE GOT KILLED BY TIGER P

and the tiger 2 is 1750/1750 hp

[nimble topaz]

ngl but t54 ltwt is good for ramming LTs and sometimes MTs LOL.... I killed a panther by ramming... the panther has 500 hp left thou i got have 800.... I only lost 100 hp

is vk 45.03 good? I always 1v1 people but this time I lost to a vk 45.03 in a 1v1 match... I used t54 ltwt, amc 50 100, and at 15 but ye I lose.... it seems to have good reload speed thou and good front armor :C

[thorny basin]

what's good average damage in KV 2?

Damage per battle?

This good?

Thx

This is SU 100 is it good?

[violet timber]

That’s pretty good for tier 6

[thorny basin]

Thx

[nimble topaz]

finally... @plucky summit @misty wing

[plucky summit]

Nice

[misty wing]

Gg ez

[distant nymph]

Any tips on the WZ-111? Just fully upgraded it and just am not feeling it work

[thorny basin]

Tips:
Go hull down and wiggle you have 2 "copulas"
Play it like a true heavy because of mobility
Don't peek-a-boom according to Blitz Hangar it has terrible speed and mobility
Don't try to sidescrape you have a pike nose

(This is based of armor, speed and mobility)

[distant nymph]

Thanks

[dawn marlin]

any ideas on the STG? I'm having a tough time with it lately

[latent kiln]

is kv-4 good?

[timber socket]

Depends on your playstyle but i quite enjoyed it

[frail dagger]

when you make 200k credits without boosters or prem account in the fv183

like bruh, thats some meaty credits

took me from broke to 200k credits

its the 183, you just gotta hit your shots, nothing special

[latent kiln]

I recently got it and am struggling a lot

Kv-3 was good for me but struggling with kv-4

[timber socket]

Well that's because Tier 8-9 are two of the most broken Tiers when it comes to premiums and collectors

[timber socket]

You got good armour decent dpm but you are slow so careful playstyle while still supporting your team with armour and hp is the best thing you can do

[thorny smelt]

Also, get the 107 mm ZiS-24 gun. The 2 122 mm guns are useless and forced you to use prammo.

[weak sparrow]

Chinese t6 td tips

[coral mango]

Its basically an turreted td,thats it
Wont work for blitz,it barely does for pc version

[latent kiln]

Thx guys

[thorny smelt]

Snipe and support. Your armor is weak

[scarlet kernel]

burning games 4005 is great

[glacial kiln]

Hhmm interesting tank

[scarlet kernel]

Quick comparison of the skoda t56
I haven't checked the armor

IMO, i would not like playing the tank since i like gun and mobility more than armor

[misty wing]

it's basically just a 60tp in tier 8

high alpha, strong armor, bad gun handling/pen, and okayish mobility

[scarlet kernel]

Yea the problem is that it's in tier 8, while the 60tp are always top tier

A jagdtiger have higher avg alpha dmg, and can shoot you twice and you would still be reloading

[thorny smelt]

Compare it with VK 168.01 P

[scarlet kernel]

Obviously the vk168.01P is worse, but im suprised it still have a better avg dmg and AP pen

[thorny smelt]

Better in some aspects, worse on others.

[trail orchid]

Is the type 71 one of the Chinese heavies in testing just now ,as I just came across it in a game ,it looks a beast of a tank

[fast compass]

It is a Japanese heavy but yes, it is in test and it is a beast

[slim phoenix]

ikr, there are just too many premium vehicles ... at the ninth tier to count at the moment!

seriously though, you get matched up against the top tier at least 80% of the time ... so i can rarely feel its effects, if ever

[slim phoenix]

“nothing special”

death star’s accuracy moment

[violet timber]

Sell it. It’s absolute trash

[trail orchid]

Ah right thought it wa one of the 2 but it is a beast if a tank I would think it's gonna rival the polish ones now,it was sitting with under 200 health points and basically win the game for the other team

[bitter crystal]

should i get the e100 and leopard 1

[strange thicket]

e100 yes
leo 1 if you are experienced

[hard cedar]

Leo 1 if you want to have fun!

[strange thicket]

and that too

[snow gull]

Dude the skoda t56 is stupid strong

[umbral hamlet]

u can counter it easily, shoot it while it's reloading or get the cupola and when it exposes himself in hulldown

[snow gull]

Right. But frontally, its armor is pretty strong, and yes the lower plate and the cupula are a bit weak

[digital marsh]

Any tips for sheridan and 121B?

[balmy compass]

Sheri is just hit and run

[digital marsh]

I made mistake of running gun rammer instead of calibrated shells on my sheridan

[balmy compass]

I use gun rammer for my sheri and it works fine for me

It plays similar to T49 how you shouldn’t confront a heavy frontally and instead smack the back with HE

[violet timber]

I run Cali personally, as you really need to make every shot count. You also can’t spend a whole lot of time aiming, so Cali just tends to work better

[digital marsh]

I get a many troll bounces on the rear when im playing sheridan

[balmy compass]

I usually find my shots miss completely rather then hit a no-pen spot

@digital marsh the main body is covered in spaced armor so if you aim to far to the sides it would miss the main armor

[digital marsh]

Well i know my most played t7

[balmy compass]

My top tank is Ru-251 xd

[digital marsh]

SU-152 is so fun

[violet timber]

Some rather interesting tanks here

[plucky summit]

😳

[violet timber]

Completely balanced tanks

[balmy compass]

Why is the bathtub tank there

[plucky summit]

Let's just say it's a top pick for tier 5 :>

[fast compass]

Bathtub doing what bathtubs do

[sand sage]

Can i get the t100lt cammo offer more than once?

[lyric pond]

Should I grind the Sheridan or BC 25t

[sand sage]

Sheri better imo

[sand sage]

pls someone

[balmy compass]

yes but it takes a while, I think you need to win again at least 3 weeks after the initial popup

[sand sage]

If it didint pop up? Should i wait more?

[balmy compass]

you need to get a win for the popup to appear

[neat nimbus]

what should i bet batchat or amx 50 120

[violet timber]

50 120, the 50B is rather fun

[strange thicket]

good thing they didn't add it with the pc auto loader

[snow gull]

Darn right. If it did, bruh Id be more scared of that than the P44 Pantera

P44 is already scary enough when you dont realize its right behind you flanking your team

[strange thicket]

meh
after the speed nerf i kinda don't feel it
standard p feels slow too

[snow gull]

Well I mean everybody has a diff opinion on the p44, I feel its still stronk

But yeah I get what your sayin

[frail dagger]

the fv 183 is really easy to hit shots with, dont play it like the grille and sit up back, sit up front like an e100, right next to the front line, just avoid fire

[misty wing]

Isn't it a normal autoloader

[strange thicket]

correct

[balmy compass]

I sit up front in grille 🗿
It plays better imo that way

[nimble topaz]

skoda t56 has 16 secs reload ?!?!

[violet timber]

Yes!

[nimble topaz]

is t44 stock gun a pain ? LOL

[violet timber]

I’m not sure, but it’s stock so probably

[hard cedar]

LOL!!

[fast compass]

144mm pen against tier 8-9. Sure. have fun.

[misty wing]

That gun already struggles with pen in tier 7

[scarlet kernel]

At what update do you guys think the type 71 would appear?

[fast compass]

9.0 or later

[scarlet kernel]

I have only 1 tier X research cert
Im not sure if i should use it on the t-100-lt or to hold it till i get 50% off

Im hoping the type 71 would come in june

[solid gate]

what;s the difference between the 2 m6 tier 6 guns

[scarlet kernel]

dispersion

[solid gate]

why is the first one better though

[molten otter]

dpm

[arctic bronze]

how do you properly play the hori type 1

[molten otter]

snipe and go 2nd line

[arctic bronze]

ah aight, my team doesnt do that sadly and camped lately, which always doomed me

[thorny basin]

Looks at KV 2 sniping at the back always missing his shots

[pseudo carbon]

t29 heavy, which gun is better, the stock one or the bigger slow reload ? i like quicker reload, using stock right now.

[solid gate]

got this from a huge container

😃 😃 😃 😵 🤑

[misty wing]

Obviously the top gun

[slim phoenix]

“just avoid fire” like, who do you think you are, an amx elc bis?

[scarlet kernel]

Avoiding getting hit doesn't always mean speed, just get yourself behind something

[thorny basin]

Yeh go to rock or building or behind that KV 3 that can bounce most tier VI shots

[nova hull]

I should use gun rammer or calibrated shell On conqueror?

[thorny basin]

Conqueror

[scarlet kernel]

Yea well i know that now

[scarlet kernel]

For me gun rammer, since your AP pen is 259mm

[nova hull]

Ok Thanks

[thorny basin]

It has good dpm so use gun rammer to increase it, and hunter_436 says it has good pen so you should be fine

Wait lemme check on blitz hangar...

I think go front line, watch for that second turret and lower plate and do concentrated fire on any td because it sure can pen you and last but not least don't let anyone flank you it's kind of rule of thumb already

Dispersion is horrible I advise to not go beyond 200m when sniping 150 should be fine

Idk anything at tier VIII I just go by blitz hangar (I stick to Tier V and VI and I have no plan on going to Tier VIII, I have SU100M1 and SU 152 already)

Dispersion, DPM and Speed are horrible according to Blitz hangar

Wait...

Forward yes, backwards no

[scarlet kernel]

I have a battlepass idea

Sherman firefly, nature themed
Everytime it shoots there is a trail of light following the projectile just like obj 84 and t100lt

Surrounded by fireflies in the afternoon and night maps
And butterflies in the day

[thorny smelt]

Side-scrape and be aware of the huge tumor if you equip it with the top turret. Also, get the top 107 mm ZiS-24 gun. The 122 mm guns have weak AP pen and forces you to use prammo.

[strange thicket]

you don't sit in the back in a grille
unless you can get shots off

[mighty kestrel]

Omg lol, everyone is playing tier 8 9 and 10 why would you stick with 5 and 6

[silk lark]

France has the fastest tank destroyers in the game?

And what is auto-loader btw?

[umbral hamlet]

it's fun but... it's gameplay is boring after a while, why what are u planning to do? playing thousands of games in tier6 only?

[balmy compass]

Autoloader is a clip of shots like a magazine, you can fire multiple shots in quick succession with the downside of a much longer mag reload.

The other version of autoloaders is autoReloaders they are quite similar to a standard autoloader but they are always reload the magazine even when you shoot.

[umbral hamlet]

all the line is made of fast tanks (probably the sp1c is the slowest with still 60kmh) and it also includes the fastest medium in the game (leo1) and the fastest tank in the game (ru251)

[balmy compass]

Nvm

[umbral hamlet]

i said the fastest medium (leo1)
and
the fastest tank in the game (ru251)

[slim phoenix]

spic surely does feel faster than the 28 though

no need to invoke a racial trope to demonstrate your point ...

[umbral hamlet]

yes, probably because it has a better p/w ratio

[dusty copper]

Which gun should I focus on getting, and god tier 9 grind is painful

[strange thicket]

big gun

[daring cobalt]

Is grille or jagdpanther better? (Tier 10)

[balmy compass]

Each plays different

[somber spire]

I have the SU100 and doing well with it. What other TD should I pursue?

[dusty copper]

Which one? Top or bottom

[safe cedar]

WG should give the AMX 50 100 improved gear oil.

[violet timber]

WG should remove super consumables/provisions

[balmy compass]

y tho they are neat

[hard cedar]

I disagree with both of you

[misty wing]

Super consumables are an awful idea

[violet timber]

If by "neat" you mean unbalanced, then yes they are neat

[silk lark]

I see... Like the mt 25

[mighty kestrel]

Spic needs armor nerf

I keep bouncing the damn thing in my wz120g-ft

[civic iron]

im sorry

armor?

[violet timber]

You’re joking, right?

[thorny smelt]

Get the top 15 cm gun

[scarlet kernel]

I got here and the first thing i see is "SP1C need an armor nerf"
What a good day

[balmy compass]

the SP1C doesnt even know what armor is

[thorny smelt]

Why armor when you have speeeeeed?

[copper swan]

sounds like skill issue

[misty wing]

vickers needs armor nerf

[copper swan]

again, skill issue

[misty wing]

no, it actually does

I barely even see them so it's not even coming from my personal experience, can't really call it "skill issue"

[rigid thunder]

it actually does

[copper swan]

which vickers

[misty wing]

light

[copper swan]

Vickers has armour only on the mantlet

might as well say nerf T 100 Lt 's hull armour since it gets much more ridiculous bounces

[misty wing]

the t-100 doesn't have the gun depression to take the ridiculous angles that vickers does

and vickers upper plate gets pretty strong with gun depression and/or angling

[rigid thunder]

because the T100LT deserves a nerf doesnt mean the vickers never deserved another

[copper swan]

just nerf all the tier 10 light tanks lol

[misty wing]

not the bat

[civic iron]

I swear to god if someone touches my bat chat

[copper swan]

ask wargaming

[scarlet kernel]

High tiers lt in blitz is just a fast medium

[balmy compass]

Surprise its getting buffed 💀

[frank thicket]

Hottest tier 6 tank 💯

[balmy compass]

I prefer the Hellcat

[timber socket]

Is that even the right gun ?

[slim phoenix]

mk e

[slim phoenix]

that’s not happening in 8.9

[copper swan]

that turret looks so off

[frank thicket]

It’s packing it’s the stock turret lol

[modest solar]

The bigger gun always the top one for german

[past crane]

No it has the top turret, just has the cursed stock gun.

[copper swan]

misinformation

[pastel orbit]

They should add a at 7 defender

[misty wing]

next defender better be german or japanese

[thorny smelt]

Ferdinand Defender? Tiger II Defender? Panther II Defender? Jagdtiger 8,8 cm Defender?

[misty wing]

imo they should've stuck to iconic tanks for the defenders
American one should've been a pershing defender

ferdinand defender would be sick ngl

inb4 the next defender is the Skoda defender, with the autoloader that skoda t56 has on PC

[acoustic galleon]

King Tiger Defender at tier 7 will be great.

[misty wing]

no
defenders are tier 8

[acoustic galleon]

Autoloading Tiger is actually historical.

[misty wing]

but it shouldn't be tier 7

[acoustic galleon]

But historically only the 88mm gun had a autoloader, the same one on the Tiger I.
PC has a tier 7 King Tiger as a premium, no reason Blitz can't.

[misty wing]

well we're talking about defenders, not historical tanks

[molten otter]

tips on jg e100?

[misty wing]

so just add that tank then, instead of a defender tank at a tier they shouldn't be at

[acoustic galleon]

Isn't there a tier 5 defender?
No its some other tanks, NVM.

[misty wing]

those are conceptually similar but they don't actually have defender in the name

[acoustic galleon]

Wargaming needs to fix the T-34-2 model, the 122mm gun looks tiny and even the 100mm gun looks bigger.

[proper hawk]

Tiger I

[icy merlin]

dahell

[slim phoenix]

there’s already a tank in that category for each class from this game, so i doubt they’ll be adding any more of them

[timid peak]

I want czech defender

[balmy compass]

Jageroo or Grille defender

[pliant pike]

is Caernavon good enough?

[violet timber]

The auto loader was tested on the JagdPanther, but was never truly completed, and never put on the Tiger 2

[molten otter]

still possible to get good games in e5?

[thorny smelt]

I dunno, I rarely encounter a T110E5

[fast compass]

You can get good games in any tank.

[misty wing]

Even in the stock st-i?

[acoustic galleon]

True enough but it was meant for the King Tiger too.

[violet timber]

Yes, yes it is

[fast compass]

Enemies have to be the perfectly ripe tomatoes and your team slightly less ripe tomatoes but yeah

[balmy compass]

I want to try something, what are you guys opinions on the Smasher?

[peak bison]

Good, but very risky

[brave heath]

this is for you med mains what do yall think about the Panther? i dont play meds but i think it is a good med i just wanna know how to play it a bit beter if u cna give osme tips

[violet timber]

It's okay as long as you don't come up against anything with more than decent levels of pen. The gun is lovely, mobility isn't too bad, and the armor works up to a certain point

[plucky summit]

Obj. 268/4
Obj. 67? 🤨

[misty wing]

idk why they chose to shorten "version 4" to "/4"
PC has it has Object 268 4

I personally think the community shortening of "268 v4" is the best representation tbh

[fast compass]

They should just name it bobject

[acoustic galleon]

Stock WZ-120 is unplayable. Cmon WG making players grind through 2 useless guns each worth over 50K exp is unfair.

[balmy compass]

Free xp exists for this very reason

It also happens to be I grinded the wz 121 without top gun 💀

[acoustic galleon]

You expect the avarage player to have 150K free exp laying around?

[balmy compass]

Free xp isn’t hard to accumulate, perhaps you may not have such large quantities but a decent amount to get you started will be good as you can earn the rest needed with normal battle xp

[acoustic galleon]

I spent over 50k free exp on the tank. The first gun you unlock has 189 pen and 280 alpha, good luck using that when RNG dumps you in a tier 10 battle. Oh and less than 2k DPM if you have 75% crew and use calibrated.

They need to remove this gun entirely, make 105mm be the second gun and 122mm be the top gun.

[balmy compass]

I was able to grind the tank and get wz 121 with this

Worked for me

[copper swan]

show your winrate in WZ 120

[balmy compass]

Survival rate 💀

[acoustic galleon]

There is no way you can grind a tier 10 with just 36 battles.

[thorny basin]

Laughs in KV1S that dies every now and then

[balmy compass]

I must have done alot of special gamemode battles

[ionic escarp]

Should I buy 60 TP ? I’ve watch a lot of tutorials on it I kind of understand how to play it

[glacial kiln]

@last osprey yeh it Ru 251 but i make it like leopard 1 A5

[solid gate]

is all chinese tech tree not real?

[scarlet kernel]

all "what if" tanks

[solid gate]

bruuh hmm I get tired of popular nation tech trees I cant play any tanks they have I'll try the least popular like chinese tech tree and japanese , not french tho because they're difficult line.

[scarlet kernel]

@solid gate oh sorry i thought you meant chinese TD, they are the "what if" tanks

there is some real ones

[nimble topaz]

its like action x i think

[nimble topaz]

its good but watch out for ammo rack i guess

[ionic escarp]

Yeah just don’t show ur side ti the enemy’s

[scarlet kernel]

The only tank i could think of that is able to sit still and bounce a lot of shell is the jagdtiger
(Not everytime of course)

Because the jagdtiger doesn't have any weakspot (not counting lower plate), to pen it on the front you just need enough penetration

[plucky summit]

Prammo cuts it down easily

AT2 is probably your best bet

[misty wing]

T95 from long range

[lone scarab]

What Is The Best German Heavy Tank?
Please I Need The Answer

[nimble topaz]

you can also get ammo racked while facing front so play hulldown too LOL

can you also see my dm @ionic escarp 😄

[lone scarab]

I In Maus Line But I Must Chose Maus Or Jagdpanzer E100 Or Vk 72?

[nimble topaz]

no to vk 72.... jageroo? never do front line and try sidescraping.... big mouse or maus??? hmm it looks ok... OK AGAINST NOOB Hts like me 😦

[lone scarab]

Ok So What I Must Choose Vk 72 Jageroo Or Maus?

[nimble topaz]

any except vk 72

do you already have e100, grille 15, or e50 @lone scarab ?

[lone scarab]

I Don't Have Any Tier X

[nimble topaz]

oh 😦

do jagerooo... its a fine line and jagdpanther can be use to bully tonks

[lone scarab]

Ok

I Will Turn My Steer To Jageroo

[nimble topaz]

what are you currently grinding rn btw ?

[lone scarab]

Maus But You Say Jageroo Is Good Tank So I Gonna Go To Ferdinand After Get Tiger P

[hollow belfry]

Ferdi kind of sucks, I rather do the TD line separately. They're good tanks and you can play the Jagdpanther II instead

[umbral hamlet]

don't take the Ferdi, the tank is garbage, grind the line from the beginning instead, the low-middle tiers will teach you how to play the high tier tanks

[lone scarab]

That What Im Doing Now

[solid gate]

I have 60tp i play over 200 battles and i only get ammoracked 2-3 times

[solid gate]

Both are rly good for me it is a little better grille then jg but he is good too

[violet meadow]

E 100 Maus who is better🤔

[thorny basin]

You guys got tips for little Leopard? (The Tier V one) 2nd gun, 2nd engine max tracks

[violet meadow]

idk

but i have

[umbral hamlet]

they're different:
Maus is more suitable to hold, since it is slow but better armored overall and the gun isn't really good

With the e100 u can be far more aggressive, your high-alpha gun allows you to wreck the enemys, just be aware of low profile or mobile mediums which can circle or sidehug you

[violet meadow]

Thank:D

[lone scarab]

You Sure About That? How About E100?

[violet timber]

Go VK72. It’s a strong tank that is easy to play, and it’s getting buffed soon

[thorny smelt]

Plus it will have tungsten shells consumable

[violet timber]

Yup, that’s the buff I was talking about

[lone scarab]

Why You Just Notified Me About This After I Sell My Vk 31

[silent rose]

Anyone knows when the e50m will get pdr? It's one of the og tanks since the game started

[violet timber]

Because I just woke up lol

[lone scarab]

So Should I Go Back To The Vk?

[violet timber]

Yes, the Jageroo is overall a meh tank

[misty folio]

Please add flag on tank

[slim phoenix]

maus

[fast compass]

I second

[misty wing]

VK 72 might be kinda insane after the update

[thorny smelt]

I'm glad it is still in my garage

[solid gate]

is turtle mk1 not real right??

[violet timber]

It might have been considered as a tortoise prototype, though it was never built

[misty wing]

I actually used turtle mk 1 in the last 2v2 tourney to counter a tiger II duo lol

[violet timber]

Really? Must’ve been some rather bad Tigers then

[misty wing]

they were pretty bad yeah
but the first time, I ran skoda and had a pretty hard time penning
and my mate didn't have a heavy at all

[violet timber]

I think a double T-32 would just about run through anything

[misty wing]

we trolled with double WZs a few times lul

[violet timber]

Which WZ?

[misty wing]

120-1G FT

[violet timber]

Oh, yes that thing

[valid tinsel]

Is the Grille any good?

[violet timber]

It’s good, just takes some skill

[valid tinsel]

Mmm

Also should I grind the T100 line I need a light tank and it seems to do well

[violet timber]

If you want a light tank, I’d suggest the Vickers first

[valid tinsel]

What’s good about the vickers? I’ve never actually fought one

[misty wing]

it's basically a med with the faster speed and better spotting of a light

[violet timber]

It’s got troll armor, good speed, and basically the gun of a med, with some HESH to top it off

[final mist]

obj 268 or obj 263, also is sheridan worth to grind?

[umbral hamlet]

both TDs are good, but imo 268 line is more enjoyable

i personally love the Sheridan and the t92e1, but i don't think they're really worth to grind these days

[red python]

How long is the 60 tp reload with full trained crew and the gun rammer

[violet timber]

14.07, this is with big food as well

🤷‍♂️

[calm drum]

Drunk S1NNER#7155 was muted

[trail orchid]

Vickers is a great little tank and can be loads of fun to play

[solid gate]

Why FV4005 have 123mm gun instead of 183mm?

[thorny smelt]

Ask WG

[topaz knoll]

Since when does the vickers have hesh?

[violet timber]

Since the HE pen was 105mm

[topaz knoll]

That’s not hesh tho right? I’m not sure bec i don’t really have a British high tier tank but I thought they sacrifice heat for hesh and the vickers has heat

[violet timber]

Just because it's not premium HESH doesn't make it not HESH

[topaz knoll]

Oh I didn’t know that

[fast compass]

Cheapfree hesh.

[violet timber]

Technically the Badger has HESH as well, even if it has 65mm of HE pen

[topaz knoll]

Hmmmm so does every tank have hesh then?

[violet timber]

Nope, some just have HE

Sometimes it's high pen HE like you get on the E100, or Jageroo. But that's just because they have big gun calibers

[lucid granite]

But HESH gets more than 100 mm of pen, doesn't it?

[violet timber]

Not if you're the Badger with HESH Mk.1 and only 65mm of pen

[lucid granite]

Sadge life

[violet timber]

Then there's the three non-british tanks with HEP. The Blackdog, Ru, and Standard B

[fast compass]

HEP lyf

[violet timber]

HEP > HESH

[topaz knoll]

Tf is hep

Oh it has 105 penn

[violet timber]

High-Explosive Plastic

[fast compass]

High explosive plastic. Just non British hesh

[topaz knoll]

I grinded the standard b without noticing lol

[fast compass]

Well tbf standard b HE alpha is pretty poor compared to standard ap. Only a 14% increase. Not worth unless you can make sure to pen after it's reload got nerfed

[lucid granite]

For me, Hesh is better, cause the pen helps fighting tanks like Leo's and standard Bs a piece of cake in my mk6, lower plate of Leo and whole friggin standard B, all pennable

[violet timber]

HESH and HEP are the same thing...

[lucid granite]

HESH is just HEP, but on steroids cause of the pen

[fast compass]

No, they are interchangeable terms

[violet timber]

^^^ One is British, the other is American

[lucid granite]

Ol Murica!

[nimble topaz]

LOL

[nimble topaz]

he didnt mention 😦

[solid gate]

Maus is better e100 have to many weakpoints

[scarlet kernel]

so i got curious and discovered things about the concept 1, and other "interesting" vehicles

[solid gate]

Bro it is true that the armor is not so weak they hit me in the ammunition only 2 times in 200 battles

[pseudo patrol]

Vk45.03 good?

[weak sparrow]

113g ft any good

[lament copper]

Chat may i ask what tank is vetter to have nashorn or jgpz4

[nimble topaz]

Yes... good armor, mobility, idk about the gun

[tough steeple]

Is kranvagn still good?

[violet timber]

Yes, but just good

[tough steeple]

Okay, did they nerf it or was everything else buffed?

[strange thicket]

it got a traverse nerf

[thorny smelt]

The turret traverse and HP is nerfed

[brave marten]

Night vision

[violet meadow]

Who have some tip for KV-2

[lone scarab]

What Line I Must Go? E100 Line Maus Line Or Vk 72 Line? (German Heavy Tank Line)

[balmy compass]

Vk72 will have buffs, Maus has effective armor and E 100 has big gun

[violet timber]

Honestly, the E100 line is good, but the E100 is probably gonna be the worst of the three after the VK72 buffs

[acoustic galleon]

E100 has neither gun nor hit points now.

[solid gate]

maus best

[umbral hamlet]

E100 will still remain a good tier10, because it has sidescraping capabilities, which is an advantage over the vk72

[solid gate]

and e100 is more accurate compared to vk

[umbral hamlet]

actually vk72 is slightly more accurate, but e100's biggest advantage is the dpm

[solid gate]

i literally hit more shots with e100 compared to vk idk

i guess hd model diff

[umbral hamlet]

yes but that could be just your luck, on paper both tanks are almost identical in terms of accuracy

[umbral hamlet]

that doesn't change anything

[balmy compass]

Hmmm, I find it hard to sidescrape with such a large turret that eats prammo

[viscid jackal]

Because it needs precise angling to maximize the effect of its armor. Same thing applies to the Mauschen and other counterparts like the vk 168, Mauschen, etc. I've died to an E 100 that does exactly that.

[balmy compass]

Its just the turret, if you face forward usually the corner still pokes out, if you rotate to far the weak sides of the turret show

Its much easier in a Maus or its lower tier/prem variants because of the smaller cheeks and stronger sides

[acoustic galleon]

Gold still cuts through if you show even a little of the turret face, which you eventually have to if you want to shoot the gun.

[solid gate]

M4a3e8 needs a buff

it has worst armor than m4 sherman tier 5

[modest solar]

Every premium tank based on Panther 1 should have the panther armor

[lyric island]

yes

[feral hemlock]

I wonder how tank t110e3?

[umbral hamlet]

pretty good, a moving bunker basically, just make sure to NOT get circled by anything cuz your traverse speed sucks even with the superturbo

[lone scarab]

What Vk72 Buff He Will Get?

[thorny smelt]

They'll give tungsten shells and sandbag armor to VK 72

[lone scarab]

Very Promising Buff

[thorny smelt]

They're giving some love to the FaiLowe

[thorny smelt]

Predator?

[plucky summit]

Yeah, prefer our little homie on something else?

[thorny smelt]

It's riddled with so many weak spots

[thorny smelt]

LOL I just noticed the cat and the gun on top of the turret

[plucky summit]

xD

[hybrid drum]

which gun should i get for the T54 ?

[umbral hamlet]

the gun which leads to the 140 is the best imo, but it's a waste of exp if you're planning to get t62a only

[hybrid drum]

Hmmm OK

[boreal spruce]

the one to the 140, much better

[misty wing]

@plucky summit I have a kinda cool but stupid idea if you want to try drawing it

Two maus hulls fused end to end so that it's double the length and symmetrical from front to back. The turret is an elongated version of the maus turret and mounted in the center, with the added feature of having a tiger I turret on top of it (resulting in a KV-4 turret kind of look)

[trail orchid]

Anyone got an idea when the kampfpanzer 50 will be appearing,it looks a decent tank going by its stats

[nimble topaz]

So hard to get goldd bruh... I got 20 gold boosters left and ADS ARENT AVAILABLE yet Bruh... WG why?

#vehicles-discussion related message... AT 15 top gun is so fun.... My battles improved... I now do 2k dmg every battle instead of 1k LOL

[hollow notch]

Balanced dpm

[plucky summit]

"decent tank going by it's stats"
It's completely busted

[trail orchid]

Well it does look that way yeah😀

[plucky summit]

I shall work on it

@misty wing perhaps...? 😅

[balmy compass]

Do one for the Tog2

[plucky summit]

Specify

[balmy compass]

Long body and extra long turret

[plucky summit]

mk

[misty wing]

LMAO

You made the turret a little bit longer than I was picturing in my head, but it's good lol

[plucky summit]

mkmk

[misty wing]

Also is there any chance you can put the stock gun in the tiger turret
Looks kinda weird with that long one

[balmy compass]

Epic

[misty wing]

Epic lul

[boreal spruce]

wow, what am i seeing here. lol, great job @plucky summit💯

[plucky summit]

😂
Thanks

[hollow notch]

Poor maus gun

[plucky summit]

:p my bad

[nimble knot]

:o

[boreal spruce]

very nice tonk you got there

[inner kelp]

How do you make this?

[solid gate]

any tips for t54

[plucky summit]

I use Apple Pages, I can stream it to you if you want me to make something

[thorny basin]

Opinions on this little bugger?

[misty wing]

don't have one

[boreal spruce]

it was nice, like a hellcat except more like a light tank/medium.

[nimble topaz]

what's the TOP 10 best Tier 8 for you?

I only have 3 tier 8 (it will become 4 since I just need few money gor 53tp) and ye i cant say the top 10 best tier 8 😦

[plucky summit]

1. Keiler (assuming current stats)
2. 53TP
3. Chimera
4. Progetto 46
5. Centurion Mk. 5/1 RAAC
6. Caernarvon
7. Lowe
8. T-2020
9. WZ-112-2
10. Obj. 252U

Of course, I didn't put too much thought into it

[thorny smelt]

WOT PC version of E 75TS

[plucky summit]

Yeah 😔

[thorny smelt]

Why don't they just give us two turret options?

[plucky summit]

Money, of course.

[hollow notch]

6,7,8, and 10 I have a couple of concerns about

[plucky summit]

My pinion

[hollow notch]

Poor shark and emils

[plucky summit]

Again, not much thought put into it

[hazy warren]

Alright buds, should I get E 25? Its ona good sale if I do say so myself and this bit been up in my mind for 4 years. Is it worth it, ladies & gentlemen?

[pliant pike]

F no kill

[hazy warren]

Cmon mods

What the actual hell

Alright buds, should I get E 25? Its ona good sale if I do say so myself and this bit been up in my mind for 4 years. Is it worth it, ladies & gentlemen?

[pliant pike]

@pearl badger ban him <@&481447501690568709>

[plucky summit]

They did

[pliant pike]

They kicked him?

[plucky summit]

Banned, definitely.

[hazy warren]

Dam I’m bein ignored doe

[pliant pike]

He must be kicked from here

[plucky summit]

He's permanently kicked

Which is called a ban

[pliant pike]

Yea,but I still want to make him unable to use discord anymore

[plucky summit]

That's not in the mod's control

[acoustic galleon]

No Tiger II, Scorpion, 130PM and ISU-152?

[plucky summit]

ISu is far from that good

[acoustic galleon]

The gun is broken IMO.
Though I won't call it OP.

[plucky summit]

It sacrifices too much for it

[acoustic galleon]

It has troll armor too, even though it really shouldn't.

[misty wing]

wait what was the guy saying to get banned lol

[acoustic galleon]

I would like to know too, I always miss the drama.

[thorny smelt]

Well the user named @pearl badger spam NSFW videos. Yes user is still in this server.

[acoustic galleon]

LMAO

[hazy warren]

Guys should I get E 25? Its on sale rn and this been a tank on my mind for 4 years. Is it worth it, ladies & gentlemen?

[acoustic galleon]

I won't say it is worth it.

[hazy warren]

Its 6$ btw

[hollow notch]

Tier 7 turretless glass tank

I personally wouldn't ever play it, so it's not worth it to me.

[acoustic galleon]

It has low alpha damage gun and virtually no armor, its not good honestly.

[thorny smelt]

But E 25 is annoying for being low profile if you're playing with a taller tank

[hollow notch]

Very very rarely will you find an isolated tank that you can actually use that ability on.

[hazy warren]

Yeah but isn't its speed, dpm and whatever the stat for not being spotted are rly good
+the fact that it has fair penetration stat

[hollow notch]

Meanwhile the smasher will just 1 shot you every few matches.

[hazy warren]

We aren’t discussing op tanks here tho..

I’m in general saying, of course I know of all the troubles I could face
Mk

[hollow notch]

This is tier 7

You gotta take those into consideration of your enjoyment you will get out of the tank

For me, not worth it in the slightest. Type62 is what I'm gonna play if I want a glass tier 7

[acoustic galleon]

You get out-traded by virtually anyone and have no survivability.

[hazy warren]

Jeez back at it again

[acoustic galleon]

By Tzeentch.

[north gorge]

I love the AMX CDA 105

[pseudo carbon]

if you really want it, why not. i got it from collect em all, didnt know anything about it, still love it and having fun. play it like in stealth game, be a ninja, find a hidden spot, shoot from distance, stay undetected, relocate when spotted, scout around, find isolated tanks, avoid fast lt, pick the slow ones,stop behind heavy tanks, take shots, go around, take shots until it dies or run again if other enemy tanks are near. e25 is great fun in burning games, use heavies as hiding spots, be support healer or give cover fire from hidden spot.

[frail dagger]

the fv215b 183 is balanced
and not as bad as people say, it is a competitive tank in my eyes

[misty wing]

no
playing the 183 is basically throwing

[rare ice]

Kv 4 should be left as it is imo it doesnt need to be touched

[thorny smelt]

At least add the 122 mm D-25TS gun

[rare ice]

wdym

[thorny smelt]

122 mm D-25TS gun for KV-4

[umbral hamlet]

no, it would become too good, they gave it the 100mm with 320 alpha for that reason

[rare ice]

no it wouldnt

[thorny smelt]

107 mm ZiS-24 will always have higher AP pen than 122 mm D-25TS.

[rare ice]

and even then the 107 still would have quite a bit more pen

and like 3 seconds less reload

[thorny smelt]

It can even pen Somua's turret

[rare ice]

yea but if you do stuff right with that turret it gets like 280~

[thorny smelt]

Low rolls eh? At least I can side-scrape with it but the HUGE tumor on the turret is something else

[rare ice]

lol tumor is an understatement

[thorny smelt]

What do you want to call it then?

[rare ice]

one of the twin towers

[thorny smelt]

Wha?

[rare ice]

that cupola is the size of the maus

[thorny smelt]

LOL. Bigger than VK 100.01 P's

[rare ice]

bigger and more pennable than the 168's

[thorny smelt]

I think KV-4 is taller than VK 100.01 P. I dunno.

[rare ice]

Kv-4 is a huge tank i dont doubt it

[nimble topaz]

Which line is harder to grind? t110e4 or t110e3

[rare ice]

eh prob E3

cus u gotta deal with T28 and the doom turtle

[thorny smelt]

They're similar in height

[nimble topaz]

Dang.... t 2020 is good i thought its bad LOL.... RAAC is good as well ?? dang.... obj 252u is obviously a good tank cause of super nice armor and gun i guess... what's keiler?

[rare ice]

yea what is keiler

[thorny smelt]

WOT PC version of E 75TS. It has a Lowe-ish turret

[rare ice]

yea i looked it up in blitzhangar

lowe turret on E75TS hull with TS gun

[scarlet kernel]

2.5k gold left for 10k, i want the chi nu kai

[livid moss]

Which tank is better CROMWELL or SHERMAN FIREFLY dm me your opinion.

[hollow notch]

That's not even a competition

[scarlet kernel]

There is only 2 medium tanks in tier 8 tech tree that can penetrate the jagdtiger fully hulldown

[umbral hamlet]

there's not even competition, Cromwell is just flat out better

[umbral hamlet]

progetto46
Emil 1
53tp
TigerII
chimera
caernarvon
caernarvon AX
obj252
wz112-2
Lowe

(that's taking into consideration a good player playing them, since some tanks aren't newbie friendly)

[nimble topaz]

😄

so caernavon is stronger than AX LOL....

[misty wing]

AX is severely overrated

[umbral hamlet]

for randoms yes, Caernarvon's dpm is just ridiculously high, much more than AX's, also it has special consumables, such as reactive armor and superturbo, and special provisions (sandbags) which overall make it more durable than AX

@misty wing yeah exactly, it's strong, but not as much as many people believe

[nimble topaz]

CROM lol

both has weak armor

cromwell is so fast and is faster than firefly LOL

[lone scarab]

What Line I Must Choose? (Im Not Jokin) Vk 100p? Or Vk45?

[copper swan]

both are good in their own right, but both are not very popular lines as of now

[copper swan]

both tanks are good in their own ways
cromwell is about speed
firefly is about gun penetration
both have bad armour, and british nation tanks are not really for beginners

[copper swan]

because caernaveron's gun does more damage per shot than action X now

[lone scarab]

Ok

[weak sparrow]

40tp tips

[violet sandal]

Any advice which line is better from the EuropeanNations? I have the swedish and Italian tier vi tanks but dunno which line to grind….:/

[thorny smelt]

60TP line is quite popular

[solid gate]

Soon it'll be Japanese HT line

[copper swan]

play it like a KV 1 but tier 6 and weak sides
preferably not with stock modules

[weak sparrow]

im stock because im out of fxp

[copper swan]

grind more free xp

[calm drum]

Warning logged for smile#1615. I couldn't DM them.

[plucky summit]

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE (except me) absolutely hated T-2020. They always fell back to "252U is better" when being individually relative isn't a reliable way to judge a tank. Also it was $50 when it first came out, which I just wanted :p

It got a 10mm buff basically around the front and sides and now it's pretty nice

[copper swan]

iirc only IS 6 got 10mm armour buff on the hull

[plucky summit]

Allow me to find the specifics for T-2020
You will notice that T-2020 has 140mm UFP now, used to be 130mm

[copper swan]

IS 5 is just cheaper than T-2020 tbh

people would rather buy IS 5 for 1500 gold than T-2020 for 7500 gold

[plucky summit]

Yes, but that doesn't just make the T-2020 bad.

Price has nothing to do with the effectiveness of tanks

So in update 7.5 @copper swan
T-2020's upper plate 130mm -> 140mm
Turret spaced armor 10mm -> 25mm
Turret cheeks 145mm -> 155mm
Upper sides 80mm -> 100mm
Lower sides 80mm -> 100mm

[copper swan]

it needed that buff given that tank was sold at a high price and was unfair to those who purchased it

[plucky summit]

I think it was fair anyways, I knew the tank wasn't special (other than the shell ejection animation, which was the main reason) before I purchased it for the $50

You get what you ask for.

The only way it would be unfair is if the information about the tank was mistaken or hidden before it was released. Or the tank got immediately nerfed too hard after release, which WG has not done

[neat nimbus]

Rip me I ain't getting much gold since ads are disabled so I guess I would buy some camos...

[nimble topaz]

👀 👍

[scarlet kernel]

oooooh

[fast compass]

Big buf

[scarlet kernel]

the tech tree mosquito is biting even faster next update

[valid gale]

They reversed the nerf after all these years lol

[hollow notch]

Woah woah woah
Did weegee just forget about the existence of the chi ri?

[fast compass]

Well…

[nimble topaz]

what's yolo in the game?? How is it done? Is it effective? 🧐

[misty wing]

it's basically just rushing into the enemy team without support, and it's basically throwing most of the time

[umbral hamlet]

it's literally rushing the enemys for no reason except to meme, probably the worst tactic ever, since it basically ends up almost every time with your death without being useful by any mean for your team

[nimble topaz]

oke...

[misty wing]

why are you acting sad

[solid gate]

Hey guys.. Remember when i kept on hating the IS-8 cuz it sucks butt?

[misty wing]

not really, but lots of people hate on the IS-8 so I'll give you the pass

[solid gate]

Well.. I just repurchased the tank after a couple years and uh.. Im in love with it.

[misty wing]

it's actually not bad
looks kinda ugly though, wish they made it the T-10M

[solid gate]

Yeah lmao, it has pretty good speed, the armour is kinda bad but the speed compensates for it, and the gun us OP. Its still pretty ugly tho i agree

[paper wasp]

In the past the M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo was one of my favourite vehicles but I sold it after Update 5.5. Was it ever in a battle pass as a reward? I'm thinking about restoring it and I wonder how rare it is nowadays.

[umbral hamlet]

it is very rare, in fact probably the rarest tank in tier6, the only time it was available in the shop was 1 year ago for 5k season tournaments coins

[urban stump]

AC IV sentinel Its a good tank?

[paper wasp]

Thanks mate! I saw that I last played the vehicle even before Update 5.5 (last played on 05.07.2018 according to blitzstars). I'll restore it but I hope I don't have to pay 500 gold for it because for selling it I never became gold. It was a normal vehicle back then 😕

[tepid geyser]

It’s okay, not the best though

[urban stump]

Ok bro

[placid blaze]

How do i use the leopard? Im already decent at it is there any tips?

[violet timber]

Which leopard are we talking about here?

[placid blaze]

The tier 5

[violet timber]

Basically flank, clip, and dip

[balmy compass]

200 dmg go brrr

[violet timber]

300 with the top gun

[solid gate]

Whats the best td in your opinion?

[solid gate]

Best tier non premium to make decent credits?

[acoustic galleon]

Waffentrager auf Pz4.

[umbral hamlet]

Chaffee has the best credit coefficient among all tier6 tanks, and it's the best tier for tier tech tree credit maker

[solid gate]

Thank you

[keen yoke]

Can we do a petition so WG we’ll give a legendary camo for the WZ-120-1G-ft

[violet timber]

In tier 10, E3

[ember lodge]

T 62A or obj 140?

[violet timber]

62A

[balmy compass]

wrong channel

[plucky summit]

Remove those immediately

Alright then, <@&481447501690568709>

Were you the same guy who vibe checked this server's mods a day or two ago?

[calm drum]

𝕚𝕝𝕚𝕒𝕟#1517 was banned

[pulsar sinew]

@plucky summit thanks

[plucky summit]

Anytime

[exotic fog]

... Vibe Check ... 😅

Yeah, we don't vibe that way.

[plucky summit]

Y e a h

It's more like they vibe checked Discord's bugs/glitches, and they were definitely there, unfortunate for many users in this server

[exotic fog]

... trolls 🤷‍♂️

[plucky summit]

This is just 3 images edited, besides I might draw a tank request in a while, so I'll just drop it here instead of b-art :p

[balmy compass]

dog

[thin imp]

lol

[plucky summit]

Indeed

[thorny smelt]

It looks like it is floating without the shading behind the tank

[plucky summit]

Yeah kinda lazily done :p

[violet timber]

Lazy

<@&481447501690568709>

Happening in every channel, pretty sure it’s a hack but I can’t read Russian

[calm drum]

Zloy_panda_#0804 was banned

[violet timber]

Just translated it and the first line was “I need to scam you”

[balmy compass]

xd

[graceful iris]

Thoughts on obj 704?

[violet timber]

Troll armor, okay mobility, casual BL-10 gun

[nimble topaz]

Which gun should I ise on 53tp? Stock or top... Top has small dpm while stock has smaller pen and dmg

[violet timber]

Top

Biggie boom boom

[nimble topaz]

Kk

[hollow notch]

Lower pen= more prammo which cuts into the dpm

And overall alpha is usually better than dpm as long as there is not an astronomical dpm difference

[misty wing]

just do yourself a favor and stop asking yourself this question, top is always better except for the SU-152 and yoh
top guns cost EXP for a reason

and even in those 2 cases it's debatable

basically, you should treat stock guns as hot garbage that you need to get rid of as soon as you can

[solid gate]

Is the t49's heat shells prammo?

[balmy compass]

T49 with derp gun uses HE for prammo, AP is standard shells, no other shells are available

[misty wing]

No, it has HEAT standard, not AP

[past fractal]

T49’s 152 mm gun has HEAT for standard ammo and HE for premium ammo.

[solid gate]

Ok thanks.

[balmy compass]

Oh I forgot

[ashen rover]

whatcan destroy an Emil 1 or 2?

[acoustic galleon]

Do you mean what can pen the turret when hull down?

[winter swan]

Is this what they been buff for the whole 7 years of blitz?

FV215b: good accuratcy, and super consumables
S.conq: good armor, and 10° of gun depression
Chieftain:good mobility, comparable accuratcy to FV215b,and 10° of gun depression.

Whats the point of playing FV215b if u can play chieftain and s.conqueror instead?

[modest breach]

For Chi Ri users, what's that tank's skill on Mad games?

[hollow sequoia]

flexing, i guess?
killing an op tank in an underpowered tank feels real good

[livid moss]

I agree lol

[chilly lodge]

Vk 100 P is Op?

I have this tank and Is 3 but i Dont know which to improve

[umbral hamlet]

it's good when il close quarters combat, but it's really slow

I'd suggest u to improve the is3 first, because stock is3 is pain, while stock vk100 is still workable

[manic carbon]

Accelerator / Saboteur System

[civic iron]

ayyy

[hard cedar]

That's crazy

[kindred oasis]

Any recommendations for good tanks to grind credits with?

[plucky summit]

Even premiums? Löwe is a good choice

I’m sure it’s not a well-regarded tank, but I’d be happy to show you its power.

[kindred oasis]

I'm good thanks for the recommendation, too bad it's not available rn

[plucky summit]

Yeah, it makes mad credits, it was up for $10 recently, I bet it won’t be much more than that when sold again

[kindred oasis]

E25 any good?

[plucky summit]

It’s nice, somewhat difficult to play though

[violet timber]

Best in the line aside from the 60TP

[violet timber]

Basically Lowe. Just Lowe. All you need for credits is the big old German heavy tank, Panzer VII Lowe. The international bank of Germany.

[plucky summit]

❤️

[bitter crystal]

why does the tiger 2 have 1437 dpm
tiger 1 had better dpm of over 2k and it also performed better in tier 7 and 8 battles

[fast compass]

? Tiger 2 has 2500 dpm

[balmy compass]

Must be using stock gun or something

[violet timber]

What turret and gun are you using? Also do you have rammer equipped? Also what’s your crew level? Also do you have any provisions equipped?

[solid gate]

Ok I can't decide is or kv3 idk witch one to save for

I got both of them researched

[acoustic galleon]

Which tier 10 do you want to grind? IS-7 or IS-4?

[solid gate]

To be honest I don't know

[solid gate]

Cause iv never had a tier 10 before so

[acoustic galleon]

I would suggest to go on Blitz hangar to check out the stats and watch some replays to decide.

IS-7 is very popular right now though. IS-4 isn't bad either.

[solid gate]

Well on your decision what would you grind for?

[hollow notch]

Is7 line is probably going to be an easier grind. They (generally) have better maneuverability which allows you get away from mistakes that you made in a match. They have solid guns and turrets, and will teach you good habits as you grind them.

[solid gate]

But from what iv heard the is8 isn't good? I fail to belive that but yk

[acoustic galleon]

IS-7.

[umbral hamlet]

it's not good again heavys, but the gun is great though, just go with your mediums

[solid gate]

Okay tysm

[hollow notch]

Is8 has a really spicy gun and a solid platform for it.

[graceful iris]

IS-8 has a good gun but that's basically all. Armor sucks, mobility is just decent. You can rely on gun but you can't rely on tank itself

[graceful iris]

Grinding IS-7 first before IS-4 is always a better option. If you grind IS-7 first and THEN grind IS-4 you'll won't have to suffer with that 170mm pen stock gun on ST-1 as you can research second gun of ST-1 on IS-3. If you want to get both, go IS-7 first. If you want to get only one of them.. its personal preference

[solid gate]

Ok thanks

[violet timber]

You have a pretty good turret and more mobility than most heavy tanks. It’s not really just a gun

[graceful iris]

Yeah top engine and tracks give it pretty good mobility for a heavy but if you're just grinding i doubt you'll research engine and tracks.. just to save time

Turret armor is kinda troll. You shouldn't really rely on it thanks to big weakspots but it can bounce some shots

[hollow moth]

The good old Lowe, long time no see my good old favorite heavy

Next time I play wotb, it certainly will be with this feline

[lilac mica]

What tank I should get first between Maus and STB ?

[solid gate]

whats best 10 tier medium tanks no premium no collectable?

[plucky summit]

It’s too bad Keiler will completely replace it

[violet timber]

E50M, M48, and T-62A

[hazy warren]

So what’s the good about super conqueror lol
Anything special about it?

[violet timber]

Strong turret, good upper plate, okay sides. It's a slow, heavily armored, British heavy with some nice HE pen, though the accuracy is questionable

[graceful iris]

First ever t10?

[lilac mica]

Nope, I already got these T10: Obj 140, Obj 268, IS-7, IS-4,

[graceful iris]

Personal preference mostly. imo it's E50M and STB-1

[violet timber]

STB is just a bad M48 at this point

[graceful iris]

Oh nice. Then maybe STB? Stb is very good med, i liked it a lot. But grind itself is painful

[graceful iris]

Eh what i like about stb is smallest weakspots for tech tree med and good speed. Most meds have better gun though but i still like stb more

[lilac mica]

Yeah I know for the grind is painful I already got suggested that I should use free XP to unlock STB. Yes I confirm that STB is a very good med I already tried it on the acc of my friend and I mastered the tank lol and I love the depression of the STB

[violet timber]

The M48 just has stupid amounts of dpm and a decent amount of armor, even if it's mobility isn't the best

[graceful iris]

Yup i managed to test in test server lol. STB-1 is best med imo as long as you know how to play. Accuracy and dpm is meh but overall it's very good

[graceful iris]

True. Dpm is really high. Equipped it got same dpm as t62.. literally same dpm and higher alpha. Armor is good but weakspots are big. Stb is just harder to pen in hulldown

[violet timber]

Yeah, just gotta keep moving with each of them

[graceful iris]

Yup. Every t10 hulldown med has same weakspot, cheeks. Well, except t22 lol. That's unpennable. But for tech tree, STB has smallest weakspots

[lilac mica]

Agreed it’s very good in general. I know how to play so is not a problem for me. I’ll think about it but I mostly think that i’ll go for STB and it’s not bad in tournaments (depends but yeah)

[violet timber]

If you're worried about tournies then the Maus would be better. STB is jsut overruled by the T-100, Vickers, and M48 in comp

[lilac mica]

I already have IS-4 that I could use. Yeah Maus is very good in tournaments and gravity mode I see your point to be honest

[violet timber]

IS-4 is now overshadowed by the IS-7

[lilac mica]

Not wrong

[graceful iris]

In tours stb isn't really a popular choice but maybe it could work, idk. Most tour teams would prefer a light over med. Maybe T100 or vickers like message above said. If they want med, T22 is most popular choice. You could try stb in tours but yeah, just not a popular choice

[violet timber]

Actually T-22 has fallen out of favor. If you want dpm support, you're either running a few Yohs, or an M48

[graceful iris]

Mhm. IS-4 is still good though honestly. Never really played it but when i face it, it can be a tough opponent

[violet timber]

I see IS-4 used very rarely. It's just not as good when you have the 60TP and IS-7

[graceful iris]

Yup. IS-4 is a good tank but it's kinda powercrept and no longer in meta

[wise moth]

This is gonna be a hot take, but honestly, STB-1 is one of the worst meds nowadays. It doesn't have the speed, nor the firepower to justify itself on the battlefield

[graceful iris]

And yeah some teams don't even have a med/light. Some prefer to not waste a slot on them and get another heavy instead

[violet timber]

I'm seeing more 2 T-100LT or a t-100 and an M48/Vickers strats now

[graceful iris]

Speed is pretty good imo and firepower is decent. Best thing about it is turret and gun depression. Best tech tree med turret imo. Dpm and accuracy isn't as great as some other meds but it's still decent in general

[graceful iris]

2 T100 strat is really popular rn. And they're quite annoying as well if they're coordinated

[wise moth]

The speed is terrible for a tier 10 medium, and the DPM is super lackluster. It's a medium that wants to be able to hulldown brawl, but against other meds, its ripped to shreds in any sort of straight fight, and lacks the ability to truly hulldown fight against heavies

It's just a heavy with less HP and much less armor

[hollow notch]

Sus

[graceful iris]

Speed isn't bad.. dpm is decent.. and it can definitely hulldown against heavies. I've done it and it worked quite well. Maybe you don't like it. Personal preference. Everyone has their opinions and imo it's very good

[wise moth]

DPM is very much below average. It's now the lowest DPM on a tier 10 med other than the 30 b and the autoloaders. That's terrible on a tank with very little to offer beyond a mediocre turret. The only time it's any good is if there's some medium trying to trade shot for shot against you in a hulldown; but there just aren't that many people who are that stupid nowadays.

STB was a great tank back in like 2018 before mediums got several rounds of DPM buffs, and before heavies had so much HP, but in today's meta, a medium needs to be able to exploit advantages and add firepower to a fight, and the mediocre mobility and bad DPM on the STB just cannot do that

[misty wing]

wtf is this take, you should almost always research all modules except for a couple, like T54E1 top engine only gives like 20 horsepower iirc that you can skip

especially on a tier 9, you're gonna be killing your winrate by grinding 250k+ exp for a tier 10 without top modules

[graceful iris]

My winrate is already bad lmao. And i didn't even have to worsen my stats as there were fun modes. Honestly i don't play regulars often anymore

[hollow moth]

What is a Keiler

[plucky summit]

E 75 RT renamed

[thorny smelt]

WOT PC version of E 75TS with rounded turret instead of the boxy one.

[hollow moth]

Ah, so an E75ts without a fair weakspot in the turret. Understandable.

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. A Lowe-ish turret

[hollow moth]

After seeing this, I don't regret leaving the game

[thorny smelt]

Why?

[hollow moth]

Weird and unnecessary tanks like those are taking too much place in the game. Surely WG needs premiums to earn money, but they don't need to create an abomination that is exactly like an E75ts but with even less weakspots.

[thorny smelt]

Not until they added the Bisonte C45 in this game which is an Italian autoreloader.

[violet timber]

WeeGee basically said "How can we make Lowe and E75 TS irrelevant with one tank?"

[plucky summit]

My baby Löwe 😔

[hollow moth]

The old HT premium trio are great examples of balanced tanks

• IS-6: you'll have a bad gun either ways and your armor isn't solid overall, but you're likely to troll a lot of people with it
• Lowe: you can play as frontline against low-pen enemies, go hulldown or play second line, the jack of all trades among heavies
• T34: all you can do is hull down, but when you do it, you're automatically a mobile maginot line

There's even other examples of balanced premiums like that tier 7 pershing, Emil 1951, kpfpz 70, panzer 4 S., T14

[acoustic galleon]

Löwe and E75 TS are already irrelevant. They've been power creeped for a long time and are only seen because they are either cheap or make good credits.

[hollow moth]

E75TS wasn't powercrept.

[acoustic galleon]

It is now worse in every way to Tiger II.

[thorny smelt]

It's weird that my KV-4 can easily pen the upper hull of IS-6.

[hollow moth]

Did tiger 2 get another row of buffs?

[plucky summit]

I’m not gonna have dirt thrown on Löwe

[acoustic galleon]

Not really. Most heavies can now.

[plucky summit]

I cannot accept the claim that it’s irrelevant

[hollow moth]

Lowe has not yet perished

[acoustic galleon]

Only because of the good credit coefficient.

[hollow moth]

Yes, why would we need more?

[plucky summit]

And the timelessly good heavy gun

[violet timber]

It'll still be relevant for making credits. It'd take something ridiculous to knock it off that throne

[acoustic galleon]

Just my opinion but I don't really like the gun.

[violet timber]

bruh

[plucky summit]

It’s deadly accurate and has great penetration, sure DPM is meh but that’s not the point of it

[acoustic galleon]

Its a good gun but just not my playstyle.

[hollow moth]

That's unacceptable. Heretic text.

[violet timber]

The best gun is the Cent 5/1 on it's second life in burning games

[plucky summit]

Mk

I’m sure Löwe may not be just fun to play or a fit to your playstyle, but I hope that doesn’t drive you to claim that it’s irrelevant

[thorny smelt]

Even the roof, TBH. It is easy to pen especially with a tall tank.

[plucky summit]

Overmatch go brrrr

[acoustic galleon]

No that is not why I claim it. I just feel like it makes credits but thats about it.

[plucky summit]

Trust me, the armor still holds up decently, and the gun is very reliable. A great design, honestly

[violet timber]

It still has an insane turret, good gun, and Hp to just shrug off hits

[plucky summit]

The amount of HEAT it loves to block is comedic

[acoustic galleon]

I find myself taking out my VK 168 more than my Löwe.

[violet timber]

Ew

[plucky summit]

Gravity mode moment

[misty wing]

VK 168 was already bad and now it's powercrept by skoda

[violet timber]

It's powercrept by anything above 400 alpha

[plucky summit]

Take care to note 100 and 168 do the same thing

[hollow moth]

• Poke with turret
• Shake and force then to hit your mantlet
• Pretend nothing happened to you
• Install confusion on the enemy TDs because they can't penetrate an extremely old tank

[acoustic galleon]

Nope, random battles. I have over 800,000 exp on the thing lol.

[violet timber]

They're both just okay tanks imo

[plucky summit]

I have images showing the strength of the Löwe but I cannot access my computer rn

[thorny smelt]

I might as well keep the KV-4 for funsies

[misty wing]

When are they gonna make the T-2022 to powercreep the T-2020

[plucky summit]

If only T-2020 was actually as bad as the year 🤦‍♂️

[hollow moth]

Quick question, would it be offensive if T-2022 existed and went to russian techtree?

[plucky summit]

It would because it’s a fake tank, most likely

[thorny smelt]

How is T-2020 compared to its overrated sibling, Object 252U?

[plucky summit]

252U is better, but T-2020 still is a solid tank overall

[thorny smelt]

How about their cons?

[plucky summit]

T-2020 has to angle the armor upwards if it wants to shrug off the big guns, and hide the lower plate. 252 can hide the lower plate and easily deflect with the upper plate, but both have decently targetable cupolas

T-2020 has decently weak turret cheeks but a little wiggling will make shots fail to penetrate, making it more of a bait to enemies

[misty wing]

Imagine if it had the ST-I top turret

[thorny smelt]

I'll think of it if T-2020 is worth the gold once it is out in Store or wait for any good offers.

[plucky summit]

I got it when it came for $50, I really wanted that shell ejection 😂

[thorny smelt]

IS-3 has weaker hull than its premium siblings

[violet timber]

But a much, much stronger turret

[plucky summit]

I don’t necessarily buy for performance, mind you. But at least getting it when it first came out meant I can easily formulate my opinion

[misty wing]

I spent $75 on Skoda crates but got it on the first one ;-;

I mostly bought it for the looks as well, and I also love the czech crew voices

[plucky summit]

I still have 30k gold waiting for Keiler or Kpf 50t 😤

[thorny smelt]

Luckily the Skoda T56 is not an autoloader or it will be a M-V-Yoh at tier 8.

[misty wing]

I wish it was an autoloader with a long intra clip for balance, sort of like the defenders

Well, specifically the IS-3 and T28 defenders

[thorny smelt]

Skoda T56 Defender

@violet timber Please spill it out already

[misty wing]

Inb4 he's typing an essay about why the STA-1 is the best tank in the game

[violet timber]

Here's my take on all the IS-style heavies at tier 8, Soviet edition:
IS-3: Really strong turret, good gun, decent mobility. Not that hard to play, just don't expose the hull.
IS-6: Kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. Do you want workable dpm, but no penetration, or workable penetration, but no dpm. Also, the armor is meh, speed isn't bad. Only recommended for knowledgeable players.
IS-5: Decent hull armor, decent turret armor, atrocious gun handling, decent mobility. Due to the gun handling, you ahve to get very close, which lets the enemies easily aim in on your weak points. Overall, slightly below average. This is the best bang for your buck though, seeing as it's only 1.5k gold.
IS-2Sh: Ummmm yeah, this one is bad. Bad armor, okay gun, okay mobility. Try to sidescrape I guess? Not much you can really do.
IS-3 Defender: Better than most people give it credit for. You have good hull armor and a workable turret. Also, 7 sec interclip for 400 alpha. Very underrated, would reccomend.
252U: This is just the best out of the list. Impenetrable upper plate, good turret, classic blackhole sides. Enough speed to yolo in so you don't miss your shots, and enough armor to let you yolo.
T-2020: Average. Not much more to say. You get workable armor all over, an okay gun, and decent mobility.

[hard cedar]

Hello ChickenMan7777 [RIVAL], I regret to inform you that the past tendencies of Wargaming have indicated that the premier sale of these two vehicles will be for real life currency, in lootbox containers. Please do not save your gold for such futile purposes.

[plucky summit]

Second sales 😊

[violet timber]

If you disagree with any of these, I'll be happy to tell you why you're wrong :)

[thorny smelt]

IS-M (IS-2Sh) in WOT PC: How dare you making me weak in this game?!

[misty wing]

You forgot the IS-6 Fearless smh

[violet timber]

It's literally an IS-6 lmao, I don't care if it goes slightly faster in water

[misty wing]

Wait it actually has a statistical difference?

[violet timber]

Yes, it has 0.3 more effective hp/t in water

It is the oddest difference I could think of, but it is what it is

[misty wing]

Would the T-22 be any good if it was put into tier 8 with the mobility and pen of an IS-3, and DPM and HP nerfs

[plucky summit]

With the middle finger to penetration mechanics, yes

[violet timber]

Well it's HP is only 50 more than the IS-3. Dpm nerfs I could see, and yes, it would be good. You're keeping the same levels of armor that make tier 10 tanks rage, and putting it in a tier with 20-25mm less average penetration.

[thorny smelt]

IS-3 Defender has similar armor to IS-3. Same weak hull as usual.

[violet timber]

It actually has the old IS-3 hull with better armor, but also the old IS-3 turret with worse armor

[hazy warren]

Guys what’s special about czech tanks? Is there anything specific abt them that is worth gettin em?

[stiff vector]

Should progetto t10 get buffs, primarily on the weapon handling section (dispersion/aim time) 👀 ? their autoreload mechanic can't cover that bad handling

[acoustic galleon]

They don't have any special consumables or provisions if that is what you mean.

The tier 10 has good mobility and a 4 round clip though.

[strange thicket]

i just want it to be faster lmao

[past crane]

3 round*
This isn’t PCoh wait my bad I thought you meant the Progetto 65

[umbral hamlet]

its gun handling got nerfed because it was too op right after it got released

[graceful iris]

Why does 168 have title of worst t8 prem? This isn't my opinion, I've seen others say it, youtubers, people on forum, etc. 168 is the most hated prem.. is all that hate purely because of speed?

[remote sentinel]

168 ... too slow, any td or maybe ht can pen his side, front very steel but speed is the problem

[acoustic galleon]

Because it is quite simply the worst premium heavy at the tier and is worse than many of the tech tree ones as well.

[remote sentinel]

may IS-5 same

[graceful iris]

Speed is very similar to vk100 but 100 is considered to he a pretty good heavy.. mainly because of armor

Meanwhile 168 has better armor and pretty much same speed..

[acoustic galleon]

I would still consider the IS-5 to be better than the IS-3 lol.

[remote sentinel]

k ;-;

[thorny smelt]

Yessss

[acoustic galleon]

VK 100 has better power to weight and lacks the weak spots on the tracks that the 168 has.

[graceful iris]

Honestly i like it lol. Similar playstyle to IS-3. Gun is bad because of accuracy but ammo type is good. Apcr as standard and heat as prammo.. it also got trollish hull armor. But it's kinda powercrept by other prems.. 252 is literally just IS-5 but better in every aspect. Why drive IS-5 when you can drive 252.. well, i drive it simply because i don't have money for 252 kek

[graceful iris]

Ah alright. Thanks for explaining

[remote sentinel]

yeah just have gold to buy IS-5

[graceful iris]

Yeah is-5 is really cheap. Probably cheapest t8 prem

[scarlet kernel]

The vk168 is even more useless now since the skoda t56 came out, basically nearly the same gun stats but better tank

[remote sentinel]

uh jpanther is good ?

[queen sedge]

Apparently yes

[nimble topaz]

is e50 line pain to grind ?

and what's the best LT in terms of armor?

and should I still go for t100 LT or to t62? 😄

[celest jolt]

Im currently playing it and yes, the gun is pretty nice, the armor is troll and the speed is decent

[remote sentinel]

but team and asia sever say me will lose with that tank

[modest solar]

Barkhan is good

[bronze yew]

Lots of questions I’ll try my best to answer them: the E50 line isn’t too bad, the tier 6 and 8 aren’t fun but they don’t suck. The tier 9 and 7 are very good.

[bronze yew]

The best lt rn in terms of armour is the (in t10) t100lt. You can get a lot of crazy bounces. The vickers also has good armour though if you want that.

[bronze yew]

And finally, I’d say get the t100lt. It’s such a good tank and just outclasses the 62a.

[violet timber]

Not even close

[violet timber]

Very good

[remote sentinel]

:) asia sever say no

and yes with my enough skill is good

[violet timber]

Asia server is wrong. You have armor that works against almost anything you’ll come up against, a gun that will go through anything you come up against, and enough mobility to get where you need to go

[hard cedar]

That's crazy.

[misty wing]

VK 100 has better armor than the 168 and is smaller

[remote sentinel]

yeah ik but the fact is team and rng is bad , so ;-; lose

[plucky summit]

Only slightly better 🤷‍♂️

@remote sentinel that’s not JPanther’s fault

[remote sentinel]

ok bye have somethings to deal with JPanther

[misty wing]

I remember the VK 100 being a lot better when I played it, but that was before the nerfs

[plucky summit]

Me too, but I basically think they’re equal, now

The best argument people come up with is “168 has mega weak sides trackwheel waaahhh” when all you have to do is angle it in a sidescrape 💀

I understand VK 100 can actually be under 70 degrees unlike 168, but that really doesn’t mean much

[solid gate]

Is it possible to get Tog II now?

[violet timber]

Yes

[hard cedar]

That's crazy

[graceful iris]

i want to get all german and soviet heavies, so far got is-7 and e100

i have two options now. go IS-4 or maus. suggestions? ill most likely get maus first but wanna hear other's opinions too

[violet timber]

Just get whatever you want more first

[hard cedar]

stop playing heavies 🤢

[fast compass]

Ok. I'll get my e50m then

[faint goblet]

I would appreciate it if WG would improve the Luchs. Of if thats not an option, make a premium version of the Luchs that can actually turn in a reasonably quick and balanced amount of time. As the Luchs is now, if you lose your driver you can't even turn one bit meaning your literally screwed out of luck.

[violet timber]

Well, the Luchs is in tier 4, which is not played much, and is a collector which not many people have. It may need a buff, but a buff to it would not improve the game in any meaningful way beyond making a 100 or so people happy

[balmy compass]

Yeah I wish Luchs had a better turn rate, but I doubt WG will change it

[umbral hamlet]

it got nerfed because it was too op back then, literally a tier4 leopard with pre-nerf gun

[plucky summit]

Highest DPM in tier 4

I need not elaborate why it doesn’t need a buff

[balmy compass]

well then thats undertsandable

[shell flicker]

lekpz m41 90mm's concealment needs a buff. everything out spots me. even with camo net, and behind a bush, i still get spotted constantly.

[plucky summit]

That helps balance the tank. And if you’re behind a bush, you should not fire, or else the camo benefit is removed briefly

[shell flicker]

i know that, all im saying is its very overshowed by other tier 8 lights

[plucky summit]

It really isn’t

[shell flicker]

lets compare to the ru-251.

[umbral hamlet]

it really isn't, imo it's still a great light, its HEs are amazing and the mobility it's great too

[shell flicker]

all it has is better HE damage

[plucky summit]

Comparing it to a singular tanks doesn’t make it bad if it’s worse than just one tank (and it’s not necessarily worse than the RU)

[umbral hamlet]

ru requires more skill, lekpz is overall more noob friendly

[umbral hamlet]

lekpz has better gun dep over the front, while ru needs to be almost sideways to use it

[shell flicker]

then why do i have 65wr in ru251, and 54%wr in lekpf i dont understand what im doing wrong

[plucky summit]

It’s certainly not the tank’s fault

[umbral hamlet]

i personally had the same problem, i litterally played my first 15 battles in the lekpz with 1000 avg, then after some time i played it again and i loved it, sure thing is that it's less flexible than the ru, but if u can't play it properly it's definitely not tank's fault

[shell flicker]

should i play more agressive?

[plucky summit]

It depends so much on the situations you find

[shell flicker]

what equipment do you recommend

[plucky summit]

CS and improved assembly, definitely

[plucky summit]

Also don’t use camo net because you’ll be moving all the time 🤨

[shell flicker]

when spotting

[umbral hamlet]

rammer, improved modules, optics, laying drive, extra hp, engine accelerator, stabilizer, toolbox, consumable delivery system or high end consumables (depends on your preference)

[umbral hamlet]

camo net is usless on almost every tank, except sniping tds

[plucky summit]

CS for that HE though :p

[umbral hamlet]

nah 102mm is already fine for tier8, and with cs the dpm goes down by a lot

[plucky summit]

112mm pen 😔

[shell flicker]

hmm

[umbral hamlet]

i mean, it doesn't really make a big difference, u can already pen most tanks on the side or back without cali

[plucky summit]

The key part is preventing RNG from screwing over the side shots on heavies, and with CS you won’t need such a direct angle against the sides

[umbral hamlet]

just get good at aiming, if rng isn't on my side that day i just stop playing usually

[plucky summit]

Good aiming doesn’t flatten the angle much at all 🤷‍♂️

[shell flicker]

im on pc, and i main leopard1. im pretty good at aiming lol

[plucky summit]

Still, the gimmick of LeKpz is the HE, so I simply wanted to serve that advantage better

[umbral hamlet]

if u are approaching tanks directly and then circling them you aren't using it properly, u need to approach tanks from the side or the back, and in that case 10mm of HE pen won't change much

btw do what u want, i respect your opinion

[plucky summit]

It makes me a bit angry when the enemy just happens to angle the side a little bit and it causes it to splash instead 😂

[shell flicker]

thanks guys hopefully this helps. may the RNG be with you

[umbral hamlet]

Lmao what is that supposed to mean? leo1 is idiot proof in terms of aiming, litterally the most accurate tank in tier10 (if we count both dispersion and accuracy)

[shell flicker]

being the most accurate gun, requires more skill if used correcty

[plucky summit]

Being less accurate requires more skill 🤔

You see, being a very accurate gun means you don’t have to work as hard to hit smaller spots. It does help show how accurate a player really is, yes, but not exactly more skill-based

[shell flicker]

waiting for a circle to shrink takes no skill whatsoever

[umbral hamlet]

because having a full aimed circle takes some? 😂

[plucky summit]

It kinda does in a tense situation, it shows how much you value an accurate shot over needing to be in a different position

[shell flicker]

when moving and hitting tanks on the move. having an accurate gun and good skill ensures a hit. not hoping rng blesses you

[plucky summit]

.

[umbral hamlet]

so your logic: because i don't have to aim to hit that makes me more skilled 🤔

[shell flicker]

yes, mostly when on the move, or you have a limitedwindow for a shot

and no, im not saying IM more skilled. it just requires more skill

[plucky summit]

There is methodology in waiting a specific amount of time to maximize accuracy while minimizing your exposure time…

[umbral hamlet]

yes but that methodology is much more easier when u have an accurate gun over an inaccurate one

[plucky summit]

Bam, easier, takes less skill

Debate done.

[shell flicker]

the ammount of skill depends on the situation

[plucky summit]

I’m sure an accurate gun serves the skilled better, but being able to manage your bad accuracy is a skill of its own

[shell flicker]

when u are in a tank with no armor, waiting for an aiming circle to shrink isnt an option

[plucky summit]

Yes, the skill of Leopard 1 doesn’t lie in the gun, it’s the lack of armor and usage of mobility

[shell flicker]

yes

[upper atlas]

no just run mad and don't depress your gun at the back then you're good

[silk charm]

Buy the wz crate? $10 is a lot but it still gets me more than the gold stuff if I buy it from the shop

[misty wing]

$10 is not a lot unless you're a child or in a third world country, which you're probably not based on your NA role

But yes, it is a good deal if you want the tank

[vocal spindle]

Eh guys what are all the Chinese prem/collector in tier 10

[strange thicket]

121b and the serpent

[thorny smelt]

There are 2: WZ 121B and WZ-111 5A

[vocal spindle]

That's all right

[silk charm]

here's the premiums
collectors is the wz-111 5a, ox, and type 58

[strange thicket]

121b doesn't have a WZ in its name pretty sure
i have no idea what it stands for btw

[vocal spindle]

Ok time for me to finish my tier 10 Chinese collection

[thorny smelt]

Tier 10 my guy

[silk charm]

oh yes dumb me

[strange thicket]

you need only 2 tanks, you are in luck

[vocal spindle]

I bought 121b last year so I just need the 5a

[thorny smelt]

It's a habit

[strange thicket]

fair enough

[edgy rock]

Anyone have any tips on running the T-54 ltwt.? I've been getting kinda crushed in it so far lol

[strange thicket]

medium tank with light bonuses
don't brawl unless you are sure you can win
other wise take shots and avoid direct engagement
easily rotate with your marvelous speed

[vocal spindle]

Obj 84 is even more torturous

[edgy rock]

Thx

[edgy rock]

Lmao cant wait
Im gonna prob be using a lot of my saved free exp to get past the obj 84

[silk charm]

lights are mainly meant to spot and flank right?
but i have to keep moving or else i get called out

[edgy rock]

I will say that the t-54 ltwt has been working pretty well as a medic in the burning games though; ive been pretty successful when i take that strategy. But the burning games are only temporary, right?

[strange thicket]

yes they are not something to measure skill with

you need to play in regular matches to hone your skills at playing the medium light hybrid
@silk charm yeah, baseline. but hybrids exist. and they all unique
scouting isn't really viable you have to alternate between scouting and being a fast unique medium. and every light kinda has a job
well except for vick and TL i guess.

[misty wing]

weird habit, I always skip the wz when talking about chinese tanks

like I just say 121, 113, etc

[vocal spindle]

Once u get to t100 lt, you will have a lot of fun

[edgy rock]

I hope so lol
Itll be my first tier 10 tank too

[vocal spindle]

And u will get a heart attack from the 5k gold price tag for interceptor camo

Which I somehow decided to buy it

[edgy rock]

Dang i only have like 2k gold rn and i rarely spend it on anything

[vocal spindle]

Flat boi

[silk charm]

mt25 is hard to play, how do i use it effectively?

[edgy rock]

Yes very flat boi indeed

[scarlet kernel]

if anyone wondering what the WZ- is in chinese vehicle
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/ground-designations.htm

for the numbers according to coneofarc : WZ-1yz
1 = tank
y = type of tank (1 is heavy tank, 2 is medium/MBT, 3 is light tank)
z = generation

[edgy rock]

Thats the one that looks like a frog, right? You just gotta slowly grind your way through it; i had a hard time with it too

Dart in, take a shot or two, dart out, repeat

[silk charm]

damn the kyros sealclubbers, gotta deal with smashers and annis after this too

should i fxp the modules on the mt25 or just wait out the grind?

[edgy rock]

Lenne check rq

[silk charm]

ty

[edgy rock]

I didnt bother with researching the modules other than the ones i needed to proceed to the next tank (in my case, the LTTB)

[silk charm]

dang ok

[vocal spindle]

Pretty normal first game

Now I know why droodles love the 5a so much, it has an awesome gun with awesome mobility

[misty wing]

idk what your standards are but the gun really isn't that excellent

[vocal spindle]

I know it ain't excellent

[silk charm]

totally wasnt useless in an mt25 and getting rammed by a pudel

[vocal spindle]

But it's good enough for me to like it

[edgy rock]

Ngl the KV-1S looks kinda hot with the Enduring Struggle camo and the D-2 Model 1926 AA Mount

[solid gate]

yeah, i prefer the IS tho, that overhanging turret is weird

it just doesnt look like it belongs there

it has the same vibe as E-100 with the maus turret

[misty wing]

E100 with maus turret looks sick
IS is pretty ugly, IS-2 looks good though

[fiery pilot]

Is it just me, or is KV-2 with 107mm gun better?

I mean, it doesn't give that massive BONK, but it's stats are better than 152mm

[misty wing]

Yes

[solid gate]

yeah

[fiery pilot]

But still, there are people who think 152mm is better because of in-game expierience

Also you have to spend more time learning 152 than 107, which can let you get more good battles

[solid gate]

is the ISU-152 a good tank with the stock gun or should i change to the 122mm guns

[fiery pilot]

It depends on how do you like to play, i don't rly know