#vehicles-discussion
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Which doesn’t make the tank op in any way
by that logic shouldn't the Tiger II have been nerfed months ago
I'm just saying what I heard
shoot the messenger
As far as I know the tiger has like a ~53% wr
I'm talking about the post-buff armor, which seems really good until you press 2
While the Emil 2 (Bc all the good players who have free xp and got it first) got a 60% wr
Yeah that is the 7.4 wr
Sorry it’s 58%
My bad
well it was the highest performing t8 heavy from 6.3 up until 6.10 🤷♂️
It’s still pretty good
middle of the pack
T-2020.
Been over taken by 110
It’s a decent tank after 7.5
It was a decent tank before then, great for support fire
Something Is also off there aswell IS2-SH was at the very bottom of the heavy board last update
Also T34 next to rock bottom in this chart 🤔
Don't mind the mediums an lights fitting right in with the lower half of the heavies...
Chart lookin sus
Is the mauschen poop??
the cupola and turret sides make it so angling your turret is invalid
Ok
I adored the mauschen, it's a brilliant tank for bullying tier 8s and 9s and against tier 10s you can just sit back and farm. It's gun is punchy and pretty reliable and if you wiggle people almost never hit your weakspots
but, gravity mode comes soon, hang onto the maus line tanks, ramming people for 800 is no joke
Yeah even if you don't like it save it to grind there
I fear no man.
But that... thing...
It scares me.
cuts to image of 3 superheavies coming over the ridge to destroy my medium tonk
This is scary
Big question is, did the WT or ISU do it?
Any tips about the Cromwell?
Pzkfpw ix, lol this should really be added
From what I gathered it was just a sketch on paper to "scare" the allies
But it looks kinda cute and stupid lol. new t10 heavy? Lol jk
Here's what I beleave is the original picture, the one above is from someone else I think idk
(Kinda made to be taken as a joke but not really bc there's no funny)
Why can't we get a graphics update for wotb
The game looks pretty outdated
@pliant viper you ever just discriminate against low end devices
It’s due to the engine
I mean low can keep these graphics as a low setting but for devices that can handle it,they should push up the graphics
umm guys I'm not a mod but pls check channels name before an actual mod brings the hammer
Oof,I thought this was general
MT-25 OR LIKE I CALL IT DOGSH1T-25, how so you play this tank? Its the worst gun depression I've seen
the gun depression isn't that bad, and it isn't a ridgeline tank anyway. use your amazing mobility to get on the flank and then dump your clip into isolated targets. find cover to reload, and then rinse and repeat. just because you don't know how to play it doesn't mean the tank sucks.
Your right I'm just crap at this game and more crap at this tank than usual
Lol I'm bad with SU-122-44 luck that i selled it and buyed better tanks for my playstyle
Is E-100 good?
it's not all your fault, the tank isn't good
E-100 is quite good, and the line is beginner friendly
Ah, because literally almost all my battles in it where loses, ah nice I'll buy my E-100 again
My favorite tank that I got by accident from mystery crate is the 59-patton. Its there a tech tree version?
in t8 no not rlly
No one talked about the pz 9:(
D.W.2
And if you add a collector's version of the Löwe?
That version would have 150mm armor and a 150mm cannon.
That was the last proposal
And what if devs add the E-100 with the Maus Turret
Wait.
I can't buyback Jagdtiger 8,8 or E-25 or Löwe
@solid gate u sure u have enough credits?
Yes 5m for E-100
But there don't say they names
@solid gate also I think you cant rebuy another tank while the first is still being processed by wg
maybe i save gold if emil 1951 comes (hopefully in bundle if wg nerfs it before to release to store)
lol wz-113g ft mastery bar is so low. just did it with 3.9k dmg
i love when wg describes really well the tanks they put
does the AMX CDC really rare?
Anyone have problems with the responsiveness of the game and tracking and aiming acting up more?
@neat nimbus the cdc played well is a beast, gun is decent, very nice pen, mobility is good, though definitely not the best tank its one of my favourites, but 6k gold isnt that great for it and you should save for xmas
when is gravity force gonna happen
Light tanks are useless
what? how?
Lights are amazing. Get 3 tanks to chase one (your light) and you basically won the game for your team.
Light tanks have poor armor and are very easily destroyed
Use camo and speed to not get shot while causing as big of a distraction as possible
in exchange, they have the best mobility and on-the-move camoflauge that other tank types do not have. Also, they sometimes have good turret armor and good hull-down ability (vickers light etc.) and excellent view range for spotting enemies from long distances
That doesn't work, light tanks may as well be silly putt putt cars
learn to spot early for your team, support them, flank the enemy and be a distraction when playing lights
That would imply that i ever get a competent team (which never happens)
Light tanks are very hard to play, but they are also very rewarding when played properly. You have to have a fairly decent understanding of the game to excel in them
Put me in a heavy amd I'll wipe the floor with the enemy
for me, when playing a light, I only ever need meds to support, (tds in very rare circumstances), I try my best to work with meds to clear the enemies' meds and lights, at the same time spot as much as possible if any of them are flanking. Then I just run over to their heavies and be a distraction, if they get distracted, run away and let my team shoot them, if they don't, I just pump shots into them
You can't bounce shells in a light
I bounced way more shells in my vickers and sheridan than in my meds
i have came to conclusion that the rhm waffletank is my new favorite tech tree tank, i love yeeting hefty he shells into enemy spotted rhm
lights aren't meant to get shot, that's a pretty foolish statement
The only reason to use the t5 leopard is to get the panther
and I love launching massive HE nukes at your rhm with my smasher too :D
i have blocked some wild shots with my rhm somehow, at the cost of my barrel
blocked 960 HE dmg from an su152 with the gun mantlet on the 0-47
oh btw once an su152 fired HE directly at my su12244 at very close range, he hit my gun mantlet (did 0 dmg) and killed himself (cuz HE can do self-harm to your tank)
ye, i remember an su 152 rushing me, and he hit like the tip of my 120mm gun, he dealth 300 damge to himself and i finished him off, safe to say he was not happy in the chat
same for grille, like jageroos and 183s hit their gun barrels and do 0 dmg except for module dmg, it pisses them off so much lol(waste of big HE shell)
ye, this wants me to hop on and ammorack someone lol
have you ever tried the 10.5 cm on the vk2801
grille has an unholy gun length
i personnaly did not like it ngl the 105mm
The grille 15 and wt pz.4 aren't actually tank destroyers
grille (not 15) is actually a arty in wot pc, if i remember correctly
tier 5? idk, i stuck with the soviet arty
They're historically gun carriers, the cannons of those two vehicles were supposed to be removed and used as anti tank gun emplacements
well, it's workable for me, I just have to always be moving and flanking to get to the sides of tanks and HEAT them, AP can only be used for lightly armored vehicles like t71, amx light series, drac or type 64 etc, HE for their sides and rear
well i know that i can do well in that tank with that gun, but for me its not b i g e n o u g h. i wish the fv 183 was an easier grind
after playing once or twice in kv-2, i have found my love of huge caliber
I hope WG nerfs the Emil 1951
Not to mention the only attachment is a soccer stuff
Either I spend gold on the jagtiger or see what's be on in blitzfair
Hopefully I wonder what tanks will be worth
@neat nimbus CDC is semi rare it was able to be obtained through an event and crates but it is in no way worth it
@solid gate one does have a very narrow understanding of the game to say that lights are useless
Also what tanks are worth I'm expecting blitz fair will have some
Basically everything there is overpriced, but the more people buy them, cheaper it becomes (but stills very overpriced)
I'm not so experienced on Blitz unfair but, if I were you, I would only buy a tank there if I really wanted that tank and if I'm sure that it won't appear in a cheaper price on shop@neat nimbus
Guess I buy the jagtiger or save for the Emil 1951
Umm imagine the grill armored up lol would be seriously op
Idk, might be, might not be. It's an iffy one, depending on how much armor it gains
Men stinks there's not good tanks for sale and worst if there's one oh boi overpriced
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717842165178433649/788548563319128084/unknown.png you're right 6k of gold isn't worth even tho the tank is semi rare
And doesn't include the attachment which either isn't a worth
Engslih?
he tried his best
Spanish
The nibble AMX CDC the rest eh I can't translate since is too much text
we know what it is
I let pass the offer I wonder what will come next if is worth or not
the 18th will bring spicy deals
Discount of tech tree premiums?
You mean they put on the store some tanks and even rare ones
I wonder if they put the Emil 1951 or not
I could get the progetto
Seems this Friday is the day
Is it worth getting the kv5
without discount? no
with discount? maybe still no
Is the t one ten e3 line good??
they are slow and boring
The T110E3 is great, be prepared for some struggles at tier 8 and 9, especially tier 8, the T28 is awful
Y’all have any advice for the Vk Leopard (the T5 light)? I’m thinking of making my way towards the Vk 30.01 D (might need some advice for it as well, sooner or later) but for now I’m stuck with the Leopard
no neither the cdc nor kv5 is worth it
both are absolutely worth it... if you like the tanks and know how to play them
eventually the KV-5 for ytbers to meme in gravity
Hello, the research line of vk 36.01 H is good?
@solid gate Yes, that entire line has solid tanks
Ok thank you 👍
Someone said that the e5 is gonna get nerfed, any truth to this?
Dayum I hope not
Love my e5 man such a solid tank cant see any reason why it would be nerfed over something like an is 4
Yea if anything the is4 needs a nerf
Might aswell strip the super consumables from e5 then
Nerf is4 turret 🙈
They know
But they don't wanna or don't know what to buff
Yes, along with the m48 patton. Also, after this past update where the m60 supposedly got buffed, I haven’t bounced a single shot. Including the ones hitting my turret. I’m getting penned more than I was before..
Dude i did 5.9k in my m60 first day after buff thing is crazy good now
Idk man, my turret gets slammed by everything.
@cold mesa idk bro
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2016 f-250?
Um 🤔 not quite
I’m getting some tho?
Ye got any I should get?
Hmm send a pic?
Oh dude that’s bad a
Oof why u say that?
‘Murica
I am sure politically related posts aren't accepted here lmao
Oh
DaddieRaven#2666 was banned
Holy
That guy was weird 🤔
That got nuked fast
reminder: no politics
Ok
@ebon moss hey I'm new what goes on in here
Ok now this is a vehicle discussion do you like old tanks
Yee like the is-7
Well not quite
Why u say that
I picked up this puppy a week back
What eve is thag
It's a tank
Um
where you got that
I found it in the google
what tank is that
I don't know that's why I'm asking
Looks like a Cromwell
Maybe it is
That looks like it
Well no the track wheels not the same
Why lol
I’m thinking cruiser 3
Christmas is coming up and I thought I'd get something that my grandkids would be interested in
Um ok
Ur gonna buy your grandkids tank chassis?
Yes sir
How much is each?
I don't know that but it's probably a couple thousand a piece
I don't get to see them much after my wife left me
This will be the first time in 5 years
@signal gale ask @turbid iron
@edgy sphinx
He does have some good miniatures sir and yes ? @ebon moss
Dm
Ok
heyy
I got work in a few minutes and I can't be late again
Thank you for your help have a good day
✌️
i got it on online shop, maybe it is available on ebay, alibaba, etc. just search tank model kits, my miniature tanks are 1/144 scale very small but very detailed. if you want to assemble try buying 1/35 of tamiya or trumpeter brand it probably cost 20-30$
@signal gale yeah ll hood m8 no
@turbid iron ohh and it's me karen why did I get kicked outa the gsm server
Cursd?
Nice but no
No the clan 🤔
Well.....
hahaha idk man maybe u done something against the rules
Lol I was muted for like 6 days lol
When will they bring the Kuromorimine Tiger I back round?
Is this even worth getting or should I save that xp for the tiger
fv215b 183 defender when
3 shell clip,same alpha lol
@clever badger the 8.8 is better save your xp
^
Gotcha
What do y’all think about the T-34 Premium American T8 heavy? I feel that it’s a little bit underpowered, but maybe I just don’t know maps well enough to get a proper hull down position.
T34 has the best gun on a tier 8 heavy and one of the best turrets. In my opinion, it is not underpowered, but still far from overpowered.
So I just need to get better hiding the hull?
Thanks. 🙂
The top of the turret also gets overmatched sometimes, which can be annoying.
Just use gun depression to hide the turret roof if you can. As long as you stay hulldown using GD, you are unstoppable until reds push.
Thanks. Any tips for going heavy side on Faust? I normally push up to the buildings (with two ramps on each side, I think they’re along the east and south sides) and shoot out over the rails. This does use gun elevation, but it still hides the hull.
You know how there are 2 ramps on each side? Near the top of the ramp you should be able to hide you hull behind the railing/wall thing. Be advised that this will tilt your tank down and possibly expose your roof/cupola. Overall I would recommend trying to avoid the heavy side for any vehicle.
Sorry, I'm just seeing now that you already put most of that in your post. Point is though, try not to go heavy side on faust.
Yeah, that’s the idea for Faust - it works really well for Russian heavies, whereupon you can peek out and rely on their trolly turret armour, and then the alpha of the good ol’ 122mm does the rest - and then you can recreate while you reload, before repeating the process
Alrighty, thanks.
But in general, the strat works well with any tank with the hull down wombo combo (turret armour + alpha)
I’m mainly referring to the T34, which I can’t reliably get into a good hull down position. I sometimes try to push all the way into the corner, with the little hill. Normally works with my 50 100, but I often take a shot when in my T34.
T30 is probably the best t9 tank destroyer
I decided to go up the E3 line. Currently on the T95 and love it.
Who's idea was it to put the engine on the VK 36.01 H on the front most weakest plate
The E3 line is kind of opposite to the E4 line
E3 line,the tanks leading to the t10 are meh(t95 is decent) but the t10 is strong
E4 line,the tanks leading to t10 are much better tier-for-tier then the t10 itself
E4 is still a good tank but the tanks leading to it are much more enjoyable
Henschel
Whoever that guy is, he's small brain\
@clever badger you should also ask the russians why they keep ammo on the front of the tank
And the Italians. I’m going to have to put on the improved defense system on my Standard B. My ammo rack goes out about once game.
@brisk flax Avoid heavy side on Faust. It's impossible to really get anything done there. The enemy isn't going to peek, and if you try to peek, you're going to take a few shots to the face without really doing anything in return. All that's going to happen is you end up waiting on whichever team to win the other side of the map and then either crossfire you, or crossfire the enemy.
Just help your team win the medium side
In other words, its trench warfare from WW1 in a cold war setting
^
THE VK 100.01 P is unplayable WHY??? 10kmh and 200-300 Damage AP
Thanks guys
Would the Wirbelwind be a good addition to the game??
its an anti air so no
Sadge
toaster noises
after playing borsig alot, i kinda want to learn german now lmao
Yes stock vk is poop
Cries in VK 36.01 H's engine is right infront of the weakest frontal plate
Okay how do you play the Chi-To SPG, everyone says "Hurr durr broken tank, press W and win" well I'm a 53% player (pretty normal I'd say) but I have a 43% win rate with it. It's just a very slow jagdpanther without the armor
Never played it so I can't help you, try looking it up on Armored_Pantz's channel
I liked the JPanther a lot more just because of the armor profile, but the SPG is quite good. the gun depression is a great little perk.
compared to the JP and the T25 AT, the SPG has superior raw gun stats. it has the best DPM and shell velo out of the 3, and is tied with the JP for pen with all shell types. however, it has AP as prammo, so you have 280 alpha, compared to 260 traditionally. Finally, the armor profile I mentioned before can be good and bad. it is not as reliable or easy to manufacture bounces with as the sharp angles on the JP and AT, but it is also quite troll, even against higher pen guns that will easily shred the majority of the other two.
Looking at the T110E5 I couldn’t help but notice no side armor, but it’s all tracks. Can, should, that be angled in reverse to show only the tracks to peak from behind an obstruction? An angle doesn’t look to give much advantage on the front armor, but peeking forward and exposing the front wheel looks like a guarantee to take full damage.
I ask because I committed years ago to go for the IS-7 (been away for awhile) and was about to pull the trigger on the IS-8. The T110-E5 wasn’t a meta tank that I remember back then. Grinding the T29 was such a chore and the big guns on the Russian tanks were always so much fun.
I am so surprised credits and xp are so easy to come by now. So, anything is possible.
Turning around to reverse sidescrape is usually a waste of time. Try to play hulldown whenever you can, and otherwise just sidescrape normally
boat shaped lower hull helps
I need tips, is the Tiger 1's frontal armor just as awful as the VK 36.01 H's lower plate???
For it's teir
The Vk 36's lower plate isn't even that bad. But you should try to sidescrape regardless
I mean it's decent, I just hate the fact the engine is right in front of it
That won't change in the entire line
By the way, the Tiger I is a lot like the VK 36, if a bit weaker for its tier, so play it more or less the same
I wish they raised the reload speed to 15.02 for the anihilator
Well that's comforting
they're both really strong for their tier. I think he is saying that if you are struggling with the Vk slow down and figure it out, rushing to the Tiger won't change anything.
Thanks man. Much appreciated
Btw which tech tree is the most fun to play?
My definition of fun is fast, armored and has a decent gun. Any tips cause I just made a new account and I want to speedrun to tier V
121, Vickers, 62a
the most fun has to be e50m
@clever badger That's not really a great definition of fun. That's just like saying you want the perfect tank, so it doesn't give us a lot to go off of
Ah well, okay let's say I'm the kind of guy who likes to play safe at first but will go out and ram someone if needed, I make a lot of bad decisions like advance in an area where I could be shot from the sides, but this is mostly because of bad team decisions like having 0 support.
I'd say the Panzer 3 was the most fun I've had in a tank. Great bouncing capabilities, decent armor and a decent gun.
(German tech tree excluded)
I guess you'll like StuG III G, its armor is troll, its gun deadly and the most important; it rams @clever badger
I have the StuG III and it's a great vehicle, it's exactly like the Panzer 3 except in tier v and has a stronger gun but comparable armor
But I don't think I'll be grinding the German tech tree in my new account
Jpanzer and jpanther are almost the same thing as stug tho
Not really. Stug is a mobile, trolly armor machine with a high DPM gun and small profile. Jpanzer plays similarly, though with significantly less mobility and a lot more DPM-focused than armor-focused. Jpanther is a lot more bulky and armored with a great gun, but sacrifices general mobility (especially acceleration rate and reversing mobility) for that thicc armor.
Is the VK 45.03 worth it?
no
Hi 👋🏻 all ., anyone can explane why evryone focus more enemy T22Med before a 183 hammer ?? 🤔🙄
because the 183 is way less of a threat than a t-22 medium
Except its not, the team who do not deal with enemy 183 ASAP will usually lose
Keyword: Usually
breh not only are 183s usually 40%ers but t-22 meds have armor speed and a good gun
Tell "breh theyre 40ers" when it farmed ur team's hp cus no one bothered to take it down.
Even if you're %0'er camping and waiting for a poor soul entering your rangewill be easy
wait a minute do you even have a 183
It really doesn't matter tho, it doesn't take a genius to learn a tank's stat without actually use it. There's a good reason stats and experience (aka matches you've fought with/against it) exists.
Did you really need to actually play a Maus for knowing it's well armored but slower than a snail?
the 183 is one of the most nub unfriendly tanks out there just because it has the potential to do big damage doesn't mean it will
How is it nub unfriendly
It is literally camp and shoot
do you know how bad its aim time is and how long its reload is and how little armor it has
Doesn't matter when you camp...
Well, long loading time, it's also so slow I death circled it with a Waffle and aim is bruh.
before the 183 was nerfed i could see people calling it op but how many games have you seen where a 183 is top damage or top kills
That is not the point
All you have to do is sit in a corner and wait
People will be hella cautious crossing that section of the map
None
Because most 183 drivers are idiot campers that are absolutely useless and only get 1 shell off before they notice their side has fallen, because 0 map awareness
^ someone finally gets it and that's why it's a very nub unfriendly tank and that's why you should target a t-22 med over a 183
It’s both nub friendly and isn’t it’s extremely annoying to use but the guns alpha is what attracts the less skilled players and as a result they don’t really learn or do anything and only stick around because of the gun hence why it’s a burden for both teams
Never said its noob unfriendly though
I still think its kinda noobfriendly because of the camper playstyle which is also a double edged sword
Its extremely idiot proof but also a high risk, cuz most campers are... idiots
Let me give an example of "what happens if u don't kill a 183"
2.7K and 2 kills, nothing right? What if I told you it farmed the tanks that were already fighting against other tanks, making them ez kill for enemy?
Also woof said exactly what I meant but in a way that makes sense....
@solid gate do you have a teir 10?
Is7>is4
@jovial yew This question is bruh. I will not contiune this argument... but yes I have a Tier 9 which can fight Tier 10 tanks
🤷
What was this argument about again?
should you target a t-22 over a 183
Yes.
Its situational
Yeah I have less than 1k wr8, and yes I'm a 43-48 (really don't care which one)er. So what?
But I would still kill the 183 first because I absolutely hate campers
i target 183s for dmg tbh
The T22 is a must target first priority but due to its hull design and armor that slows down its destruction while a 183 can be taken down easily granted if its spotted and in the open
I despise t22 because its broken, but I hate 183 even more because I hate campers
^
I like when I’m in my e50m and I go against the t22 it makes a good duel
Does it show the country's flag on a tank without camouflage
Ok ok that's cool and all...but buff SP 1 C
No
And take out Annihilator or nerf it.
Nein
um yes. Annihilator is stupidly OP. Ridiculously so. I have seen an Annihilator clutch a 1v5 multiple times in literally just the past week.
I have a feeling you're a new player
No, been playing for 3 years.
I've been playing for 5 years
Very cool. But that does not change the fact that the Annihilator is stupidly OP. Ask any blitz youtuber, if you like. Bushka, Meadsy, take your pick.
Laughs in smasher
(and btw the sp1c thing was kind of a joke. Though I wouldn't be unhappy with a traverse buff)
AHHHHH, I see now why ur against a nerf. Well take it out of the game, that solves it lol no nerf needed
I'd rather them Nerf the some russian tanks
@median relic I'm hoping they buff the fury
Annihilator has plenty of week spots, If your good and make them shot at you moving they won’t land all 3 shots.. is it still op? Maybe a little bit not to hard to combat is you don’t just let them plug you.
What if it did 700 damage per shot
I get nerfing some of the russians, yeah, but the premiums of tier 7 are BROKEN. Completely broken. They need nerfs. It's ridiculous. And @topaz summit yeah I know that. I don't have difficulty taking them down, I just hate when they take me and 6 other people down in a single game, one tank. The armor is just fine. don't change it wg. But the firepower and reload time is ridiculous.
What if the damage it did was just fine, but it's reload time was more like 20 seconds, rather than a freaking milisecond
M6 is my best tank I one time killed the entire team in it
Name the most cursed tank.
@gleaming marsh FT AC, if the game allowed it, it could flip itself over very easily on flat ground
The damage you would get hitting the spaced armor of the sheridan with he is less than ap right?
yes
@solid gate yes, HE splashes on spaced armor, doing a fraction of the damage it should have
I see, thanks. So never fire he into sheridan.
there are parts where the sheridan does not have spaced armor but they're hard to hit
Yeah, it's hard to aim at those parts though, unless it's a brawl or afk.
Buff 183 or nerf Annihilator & Smasher 😇
Quick question amd give me a solid awnser should I get the E-100, or use the top Resource Resupply to get the chimera and my T-62A back?
@final night you realize people would choose the latter without hesitation except for some random noob that can't figure out how to drive a 0 skill tank like Smasher, yes?
@plucky summit the FT AC is fine when firing even on an incline it didn't have a problem
@tulip sail top heavy where it can flip sideways
bruh just buff maus armor 100+mm thiccness on sides
ah yes great idea buff the best side scraper in the game
Sshh don’t say logical stuff hurts players brains
@plucky summit not really it wasn't much taller than a standard FT and the 47mm gun wasn't a super high velocity gun
@tulip sail In the game if you get up to speed and start driving left to right, it wobbles quite noticeably xD
The FT also could only go 4kmish
I'm talking in the game doe
nice suggestion
Buff Annihilator and Smasher and nerf every single tech tree tank to the ground
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Is the wood on the side of fury really block shell(in the film it really block one shell from tiger)
no it won't lol
imagine a sidescraping tier 6 med because it has spaced armor
wz 122-2 however. good? bad? rammer or calibrated?
wz is good
fv215b 183 defender when 😎
about 3560 years left
imagine tho,fv215b 183 with 3 shell magazine
930 dmg each and only has 10s reload for each shell
60 seconds of magazine reload
Hmmmm... y’all have any advice for the IS? Should I run it like the KV-1S, or does it have its own nuances?
IS is more armored, but don't rely on it, even the turret is risky game with that cupola
Why when i played conqueror with little tier 9 gun, i always met tier 10 even for my first battle on that tank what kind of matchmaking is this? And that tank sucks with that gun
@balmy wagon it's bugged rn
bad suggestion
Nah mate, sounds perfectly fine to me
Guys can anyone tell me how is the T25/2 since I can't find a single review of it,I'm almost there to researching it
705a gib
Anyone mind telling me the pros and cons of the T26E4 Super Pershing ? I'm in desperate need of a prem tank but don't want to waste money on useless tanks in shop
Dude i played against tier 10 on my first 5 battles on that tank
Pros:
Credit coefficient.
Armour that works against noobs
Cons:
It is not that good of a tank and you are better off buying just about any other tier 8 premium
thanks for the info
@wet fjord Yeah T26E4 is pretty bad really, the M4 49 in shop now is a decent deal but the Christmas event coming up will have much better deals, and will probably have the gold boxes which are great value if you don't think you have enough gold for a good tank atm
Pros:
Credit coefficient.
Armour that works against noobs
Cons:
Trash gun
Trash mobility
Trash armor
Please do yourself a favor and don't get it.
The the t26e5(sheriff) is flat out better than the Spersh
The amxm4 49 is flat out better than the Spersh
The t54e2(shark) is vastly superior to the Spersh
Anyone gonna tell me how the T25/2 is?
@hollow notch T26E4 is a proof that WG did nerf premium tanks
Its lower frontal armor used to be strong. Until WG nerf it
The lowerplate on the 26E4 is odd, the pen marker will say you can’t pen it with say 235mm of apcr but when you shoot it, it pens
they should rebuff it to make Annihilator-proof
Lower hull was never strong. It just used to not be widely known
And it doesn't help that literally everything introduced to the tier recently has enough pen to laugh at the Spersh, accompanied by many pen buffs to many tanks
well what about the Lowe ?
oof, too bad i have tests near Christmas
Solid tank, the only reason that I personally don't like it is that it's very slow
Laser gun, very bouncy turret, great upper plate, can sidescrape.
My only problem with the lowe is that there is literally no reason to play it over a shark. Shark is op af though.
The Shark is that good ? I mean i rarely if ever coming up against it so can't tell if it is decent or not
@pliant viper It's pretty bad. Like really bad
isn't the shark pretty much a tier 8 t110e5, which makes the t32 even more obsolete and powerkrept?
Yes but actually yes
What gun for the WT ausf. pz IV is the best? Is it the second gun in the line for the Grille, or the second gun in the "break away" line?
For the SU-100, should I be running the 100mm gun or the 122mm?
I mean I’m a garbage player don’t get me wrong but I know how to angle the mauschens turret and stuff and I still get penned ez
Second gun thats off to the side.
Idk I don’t have it
The Mäuschen isn't too bad IMO. It's main drawback is its incredibly low speed/turn rate which makes it hard to angle the armour against incoming tanks, but if you can get yourself into a good sidescraping position, the armour is pretty strong.
The play style will be pretty similar to how you will want to play the Maus later on (although the Maus may be a bit faster).
Use the 122 because high alpha is easier and more fun, 100 mm is still a viable option though
Yeah
I’m a newb I’ll admit but I have like 53% wr or something in it, i like the mauschen but it’s just that it’s so slow lol
One tip, dont angle the mauschen's turret. The shape of it causes it to be weaker when you do that. Idk if you are or aren't doing that, but tip for anyone on mauschen right now.
I good friend of mine showed me how to angle the turret so that the cheeks get harder to pen
A*
I should specify. Angling it is effective against tier 8 and 9 but not tier 9 TDs or tier 10. Unlike the tier 10 which is effective against anything pretty much.
Oh
That was the thing I hated about the mauschen. It was hit or miss with the turret and if you didnt get it just right people would pen you so I played it in realistic battles where people couldn't tell they could pen and just didnt even try shooting which was funny.
With the mauschen you just want to try and use your hp to help the team as much as possible. Angling the turret is much more important on the maus but can still work a bit, it's just not too useful when everyone will go for the cupola instead. You just have to wiggle as much as possible and as randomly as possible to try and throw off their aim, which is pretty hard as humans can't do random stuff well. Apart from that sitting out and baiting the reds to focus on you is the best way to play against tier 8s and 9s, and then against tier 10s just try and sit back and farm. It's a very nice tank but a bit awkward to play
I just wish they would buff the turret so that it could properly prepare players for the Maus.
It's VK 168.01(K 3384 with 150 mm) and VK 45.03 worth?
It doesn’t have a 152mm and no none of them are worth it
Vk168 is considered to be one of the worst tier 8s. VK45 used to be good but is pretty useless now.
@kind falcon If they buffed the turret then it would be wayyyyy too powerful
Why they are bad, yes the VK 45.03 has bad armor and VK 168.01 has bad speed but they look like they are good tanks
The Löwe is good?
Vk 45 has a mediocre gun for the tier and really bad armor compared to other tanks vk 168 just has armor going for it it’s gun isn’t great
I don't mean by much, just a few more mm of armor. Plus it still has the cupola even if everything else was impennable
But it's gun is the KwK 43 L/71 but I admit that the armor is very bad for its Tier
And VK 168.01 has a 128 mm with good pen
It's a very strong tank how it is now, anything more is asking for trouble
What's the better gun for E-100?
KwK 44 128 mm or KwK 44 150 mm
Gun length doesn’t matter nor the name it’s the same as the others and has nothing to make up for it it’s big slow and poorly armored and it’s pen is roughly the same as Vk 100s
Why would you even choose the 128 anyway
Thx
But 150 don't have worst acuraccy, reload and aiming time than 128?
It doesn’t matter the 128 doesn’t have the dpm or pen to compete at tier 10
The 150 is the reason you play the E100, if you want to play the 128 it is better to use the maus.
yo, even T18 can pen a big kv-2
Which is better? T57 Heavy (🇺🇲) or Amx 50 B (🇫🇷)
hmm T57 Heavy
maybe has more armor than the 50b?
50B is miles better for skilled players. T57 is more beginner friendly. DPM wise, they are approximately the same.
T57 has surprisingly good dpm
But 50b has much more mobility and the T57s armour can't hold up against that much so it depends on your playstyle
brtujh
I see
My vote is t57, but you really can't go wrong with either
I vote 50B every day
Same
Can’t the foch t9 get a cupola buff?
It really doesn't need one
Say lads, I'm not very good at the heavy role and I'm thinking of abandoning the German heavy line and take a different route, is the VK 30.01 D a good choice as something faintly similar to the Panzer IV G???
I like the t57 heavy cos if you get a full clip off that’s 1200+ dmg
Not at all, the VK 30.01D is kinda an odd ball of the medium line.
Also do not take the route via VK 30.02D because the tier 7 is garbage.
Beyond that you get mediums with heavy armor
If you can't play a heavy role well I wouldn't advise you to play thee E 50 M line until you get a bit better at that role
Try the Soviet meds first
I'm at Tier VI German line and I'm kinda stuck, I'm not very good at the role of heavy and Tiger Is don't have the same pizzazz they had irl cause they never fought on equal terms.
I'm just looking at the nearest neighbor which is VK 30.01 D because I really don't want to grind a different tree other than the german one
Tiger 1s IRL were problem children
Constantly getting stuck
Expensive
Parts were not easy to replace because of both cost like I mentioned and lack of available resources
And the engine was a death sentence to most crews
A single molotov cocktail on the engine deck can immediately put a tiger 1 out of commission
Btw
Tiger 1 in this game is beyond stupidly broken
I thought it's front plate could easily be penned?
Your 2-3 years late
It has way too much going for it, before it had 100mm frontal armor which made sense
Now with 165 is overcooked
Yeah, got the game a few weeks ago
What's funny is how it was historically accurate with the tier and tanks it faced having the right kind of guns to go through the armor and the people complaining about historical accuracy and tiger 1 not being good enough, made the game less historically accurate
Please don't use abbreviations of the F word
@lyric oriole Ik I love the hypocrisy in that especially when people complained about the IS tanks
my friend keeps telling me that I'm going too fast on the tech tree
How does Chimera compare to Defender Mk 1?
pretty sure he's right since I'm already struggling
You should be running Multiple lines so you don't burn yourself out and get bored with the game
@royal charm apples and oranges
Completely different tanks in every manner except pen effectively
Different in what way?
Chimera shoots once every 12 seconds defender shoots 4 times every 11-10 seconds
What about armor and speed
One is an autoloader, one is a 127mm, one has armor on the turret, the other the hull, chimera is a sub-heavy and Defender mk. 1 is a marginally better Centurion 1
Chimera is faster
Which do you consider to be better?
Chimera
People look too much at the turret of Defender Mk. 1, really not that special of a tank
What about T28 Defender, how good is it for a TD
Just ok?
The HP is pretty low for a heavy tank role
Guess Ill skip that one
@fluid imp no not really the more powerful American engines at the time were already in early stages and had their own issues and were a bit underpowered and heavy tanks by logic are slow and bulky you must plan the consequences of putting a more powerful engine into a heavy chassis and dealing with the 3 critical problems : fuel consumption, increased weight , production and engine life
there is such a thing as having a heavy that is too slow, the prince is too slow, it could keep up with infantry, but not other tanks
That’s all it needed to do
That's because it was an infantry support, most heavy tanks were
That mostly what it was designed to do
i know, but in WOT or WOTB there is no infantry to support, only other tanks that will ourun you every time, even other heavys
The British tanks were based on doctrine
the only time i ever get a wingman is when im tooning
Bp also gets the super boost consumable which is insanely broken so you shouldn’t be having problems with speed if your using it
i dont have the bp, not any prems for that matter...yet
Then what was the point
prince armor is good when angled, but when straight on your going to get penned quite a bit
and if lights or meds from the enemy flank everyone you are basicly the front line and are doomed because right away they have your rear armor
The tank traverses pretty fast you know
Your saying this yet you just said you don’t have it?
Yeah, Im gonna say hol up right here. Black Prince has an amazing turret, and the super engine boost makes the thing's mobility far more bearable. It has a super high DPM gun with good accuracy at the disadvantage of bad pen. It does have pretty great traverse on both the hull and turret, and the hull can sometimes bounce medium shots that aren't premium ammo. It's what I wish the Churchill 7 was, instead of being too slow and having a garbage turret that gets memed on if you try to sidescrape.
Black Prince is near uncircle-able
I found that out the hard way trying to circle it in an M41 of all tanks
Like I'm just going to point out that on medium terrain, it actually traverses its hull faster than the FV215b....
And its turret is a tad faster too
^ for such a long, tall, and chunky tank with comparatively small/thin tracks, it really does have excellent traverse. The Black Prince is a little overcooked in that aspect, think it should be circleable..not as nearly as much as the Tiger 1 though.
The Tiger 1 is literally just plain better than the Tiger P now and it makes me sad
I still remember when I found out that Black Prince had crazy traverse. Middleburg, on the hill, I go in full speed in an M41, for the circle, and I just watch in horror as the stupid thing had 0 issues keeping its gun in front of me
@wispy rain The power creep at tier 7 is honestly getting out of hand. Tiger P used to be like one of the best tier 7 heavies, even after a nerf, and now it's not even talked about
F. It is rather funny in the Black Prince to stick it to those super annoying lights who try to circle you, though..especially after the pain of being murdered over and over by being circled in the predecessor British heavies.
@wise moth It's sad, really. The Tiger (P) isn't even that ridiculously strong armor wise if you load premium ammo, and the thing was slow enough that it felt somewhat balanced, if still really strong. You had to actually show some skill in wiggling the turret and trying to hide the bottom lower plate or wiggling the hull too to really be a bouncing monster. But with the current meta at tier 7, the Tiger (P) just flounders against the Smasher..though I do admit it's pretty effective against the Annihilator as long as you're engaging from a decent distance.
@solid gate was talking about in my prince, and when i say prince i mean the black prince not the matilda BP
The only way I see the Matilda BP being any good is fire support. Maybe its hull could do something when angled, but the turret is a large weakness. It does, however, seem to have good DPM and a very good rate of fire.
you cannot deny it AP shells in the prince need a buff,even if it is just slight, it needs more AP pen
it cannot pen most heavys and some meds it cant even pen, but lights are just about totaly obsolete
and when some ppl are stupid enough to try and pen the mk7 with a vk leopard, frontaly for that matter(that t5 one) then u know uve seen it all
Maybe? Buffing it's AP pen might throw the Black Prince into the realms of being too strong. The gun is accurate enough, fast firing enough and you have enough shells to continously fire until you find a weakspot you can exploit. Provided, the Tiger 1, the SU-152, and the Smasher are the Black Prince's main weaknesses. The SU-152 and the Smasher can render sidescraping useless, and the Tiger 1 has an armor profile that's difficult for the Black Prince to deal with.
perhaps, but alot of people i get stuck with abndon me while im setting up for sidescraping, heavys usaly end up having to duke it out against eachother, and i usaly end up all alone and have sever enemy tanks firing at me, some using APCR and easily getting into my turret
do NOT buy the T28 defender. Source: i have it, and its so bad. the mobility and armor are horrible, and the gun handling is downright awful. The autoloader is advantageous in situations, but its just not a good tank overall. if you want a defender, get the mk1
yea a t28 defender tried to face me solo and i toaly destroyed it, kept bouncing its shots via sidescraping, ut used all my APCR and had to get the rest of him with AP by going beside him, he landed a big one and took out half my HP in a single shot, i was lucky it didnt hit my rack or tracks
Fair enough. I know how it feels...had a Jagdtiger 8.8 spam APCR and only APCR at my Tiger II. I made the mistake of somehow thinking he had the 8.8 cm and pushed him, got rekt hard. Muh poor Tiger II didn't stand a chance once I wasn't able to peek to bait shots and bounce them
i like to toon most the time because of that, alwayts need backup to deal with those i cant pen at all
The issue of the matter is that if I had swallowed the hard pill and taken premium ammo at the cost of less profit per game I might have won against the Jagdtiger 8.8, pretty sure the Tiger II's APCR can go right through the upper casemate. TLDR, bring premium ammo people..you never know when you need it.
usaly toon with someone that has like a good TD, yea i hate having to swallow the cost of APCR in tough spots when having backup would be way better
if i get tooning with someone with a russian IS tank then we both can sidescrape and hold our own pretty well
Fair enough. I have yet to figure out how to angle the Tiger II so that it bounces better, right now I've been using it pretty aggressively and relying on the gun to take snapshots at people
ah yes, tigers, the extra tracks on the front, i slip AP in there and rek tigers, so much for german tank superiority
on IS tanks part of the curves on the turret, i find these weakspots easily, making sure they stay out long enough for my gun to aim properly is another thing
Depends on the IS tank. IS-1 and IS-2s have that memed on Cupola, but IS-3 and above have stupidly good turrets
ammo racking tigers is also fun, one was running away, smacked it in the side of the turret and it went sky high
IS-3 turret is not getting penned. Not happening
Tigers can be nasty when used right. I know how to use the Tiger (P) the best, Tiger 1 I use decently well..not proud of my skills in the Tiger II.
yes IS-3 have great turret armor, so i find other places, like if they think exposing thier side armor perpendicular to my gun, i am getting penetration, but these things are rare
Is 3 has a great turret but it’s kind of useless bc u don’t have a lot of depression. Finding small ridges is hard
Where the IS-3 excels is face-hugging against tanks with lacking gun depression. You can get right in their faces and they have no way of hitting your hull
yes, somehow making it past them and directly beside them is deadly for IS because black prince and the rest of the churchills are quite short
IS heavies struggle against any DPM-focused heavies with good armor
me penetrating the cheek with the sturer emil begs to differ ;))
The unbelievable part is driving an st Emil
lol
i personally like that tank
15 degrees of gun depression and a super snappy gun just lets you do some outrageous things
yes, DPM in prince is good, and the quick reload allows for fire supression and keeping their heads down so allies can flank or something, but for that u actualy have to have allies with you
plus, a 128mm gun at that tier with that handling and penetration is ridiculous and almost borderline OP imo
@solid gate Although fwiw, hitting the IS-3 turret cheek with a sturer emil is nothing short of a miracle shot
german accuracy
Also, if he angles his turret, that weakspot disappears completely
and yet somehow i miss the broadside of an E5 from 400 meters in a Grille 15 on canal
Wait, the IS-3 turret can be angled? Thought when angled it was pretty bad
only against lower tier tanks, higher tier tanks with gold will penetrate it if you turn to the side
@wispy rain Yes, but it's pointless, since it's not getting penned front on anyway
Ah, gotcha
Like, it's only worth angling in this very specific scenario because Sturer Emil's AP has like the perfect amount of pen where IS-3 turret angling can make that cheek weakspot just thick enough to bounce without overangling the side and making it pennable
Although IS-3's invincible turret is nice because it has the greatest freedom to turn compared to any other tier 8 turret. Even at like ridiculous 30 degree angles or whatever it will still bounce shots, whereas other traditional tough turrets like T34 are just massive green weakspots at the same angle @wispy rain
You're making me want to get the IS-3 now, even though the thing starts with a bloody 100mm for some really stupid reason
@wispy rain You get the 122mm D-25t from the IS, albeit that's still bad lol
The is 3 is a tough tank to play imo
I believe this is the graphic you used, Posit1ve.
Ah yes, there it is, thank you @gentle wasp
Wow..the IS-3 has a better turret than the IS-5? That's a bloody meme
Is-5 HEAT at 20 degree angle was the context.
I am dutifully saving your best IS-3 simp moments, they are useful to smack scrubs around.
It's not a meme. It's the truth. IS-3 turret makes other turrets look like RU-251s
Now...if I could find a way to use that turret without facehugging, I'd totally go for the IS-3
@gentle wasp I should probably be saving these too, because I think I have this rant every 3 days or so
it sure seems like it.
@wispy rain The -5 gun depression can be tricky to get used to, but it's greatly helped by the fact that IS-3's hull is super short, so once you learn how to use the terrain to maximize the gun depression, hiding the hull is a breeze
@wispy rain if u can find cover that hides ur front and u can shoot or find a small ridge that isn’t too high it’s a good go
@wispy rain some more from the posit1ve archives for you
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Dear lord, three pings. This is good information. Is the IS-3 the best turret at tier 8, or is there a better one?
It's the best turret at tier 8 by far, and arguably the best turret in the game, even better than tier 10 turrets like IS-4
In terms of armor it’s one the best
right as you said that Posit1ve started typing. I love it.
Are you saying I could failtoon with the IS-3 and bounce tier 10 heavies if I position it right?
I say the best turrets in t8 (tech tree wise) are the is 3 and t32
yea Posit1ve can you give us a quick comparison of IS-3 vs T32 turrets? I don't think I have seen you do that yet.
can we get one of those picture things for like say if me and my prince were trying to pen say, a prem tank like the gravedigger or anniahlator
@wispy rain Yes, yes you can.
This is IS-3 and T110E5 turret vs. IS-4 HEAT + Calibrated (374mm of HEAT pen)
@wise moth That..that is beautiful. Brings a tear to my eye..I want this tank super badly now. I already loved how it looked and that it wasnt awful, but now you've convinced me that I should grind for the IS-3
I think that the is 3 turret would win out against the t32’s if they compared when their turrets are turned but if compared facing forward I’ll say the t32 bc it has the advantage of gun depression
How does the Is-3 turret still look like this against the best pen on the game...
Stalinium
Russian bias(Tm)
if u put me against one i would win cuz im acurate and aparently my armor is alot better than alot of people say when doing a frontal attack
Well, to be fair, not much stands up against Ho Ri AP with calibrated shells. And remember, that this is a tier 8
yea I am saying even with 399 pen you can still only go through the cheeks. that's insane.
@solid gate AP pen yes
@solid gate yes
I mean..is it bad though? IS-3 requires skill to use and it's super unlikely that the IS-3 would ruin tier 10 matchmaking (lmao)
Oh and, here's T32 vs. IS-3 turret vs. Skorpion APCR (no cali, 311mm APCR pen)
Top is head on, bottom is both tanks using full gun depression (-10 on T32, -5 on IS-3)
@nocturne sage T34 prammo with CS. T32 is max gun depression and Is3 is on the default front view.
Hmm IS-3 is a face hugger's dream lol
T32 turret is still good yea I can be penned in those spots in theory, rng plays a role
I wonder..could the IS-3's turret bounce 183 HESH? It's the most heavily armoured turret in the game without including the supreme angles from the Maus and the E-100
I will give the small caveat though, that IS-3 turret is not as great against 152mm+ guns firing AP/APCR, since they can triple overmatch and pen the roof plate, but even then it's a tough shot
I doubt it can bounce hesh, hesh would do splash damage
@wise moth you're talking about the 50mm stripe at the top, correct?
Yup. This is vs. ISU-152 AP
Ah, I see. So it's a meme against tanks that are 150mm and below, but struggles against 152mm+ tanks
And even then, it's not a huge deal, because A. IS-3 won't face many opponents that can triple overmatch that, and B. the tanks with 152mm+ guns will have serious issues trying to hit that with their accuracy
but then again tanks with those caliber of guns are going to struggle to hit that ^
Bruh I wish I had armor inspector premium too so I could check stats myself
what is the best tank i could pen, never realy tested that out
With what tank
@solid gate IS-3 is a tech tree tank so you can get all this just fine. I don't have premium either.
yea the black prince
Ngl, a tier ten IS-3 premium with some improvements to the stats would be kinda cool
IS-3 with the M62 from the IS-4 and some good DPM would be actually a very, very good tier 10
That’s just is4
Yeah, give it the role of pure hulldown and facehugging. Would be unique compared to IS-4 in the fact that IS-3 can't sidescrape as nearly as well as the IS-4
Also, I just wanna point out, that for as "weak" as IS-3 hull is, it'll still do its job against lower tier tanks. This is Black Prince AP vs. IS-3
u dont think i know that
He wasn’t talking to you
Also I seriously get annoyed at how annoying the sides of The IS family are
I’ve also heard you talk about this kind of angle (20 degrees)
i know, but still my gun aint that acurate to het the turret ring and if the BP cant none will
In theory, yes is but in practice u won’t know if the player will be smart enough to load prammo
@gentle wasp the disgusting fact track shots are shown to be unreliable in that image
I've yet to uncover how K-91 and Emil sides are so completely broken though
@gentle wasp That's the sketchy "stalin angle" tactic I mentioned once or twice when peeking around corners, where you hide the weak plate behind a building as much as you can
was that one of BP still, cuz that looks about right for what i have done
@wise moth right, so you're just purposely overangling that upper plate, hiding the left side, and baiting shots
@gentle wasp the emils tracks sort of collide with the mudguards the k91 has some kind of storage box armor like the is7 and a really different suspension model
Not really baiting shots, just presenting as small of a penetrable target as possible so that someone not already preaimed at the corner will have trouble trying to snap you
@wise moth Should we call you the IS-3 Man?
got it. I have to say I kind of want to get the IS-3 now, even though I detest heavies. you have converted me.
@wispy rain you don't already?
@gentle wasp Now I will
lol
u detest heavys...how dare you
@solid gate with regards to IS side armor, just in case you didn't already know, the reason why they're so troll is because of the shape of the primary armor, not the silly spaced armor plate.
This is what an IS-3 hull looks like underneath the spaced armor. This is why you bounce off those upper sides
Russian Engineering
Trust me im engineer
I’m now seeing buildings collapse
@wise moth nah I’m not talking about the upper I’m talking of the lower area since I primarily use the black dog with CS it’s super frustrating just how resistant it’s suspension is it either gets tracked and tanks it or gets thrown into the spaced bits
rusian engineering, get it slaped together and into battle, who cares if it breakes easily, we can fix em
Fix them pssshhh, we’ll just replace the darn thing
@solid gate With regards to that, my favorite drive wheel is the one on my 113. Look at this nonsense lol
If you angle your is3 its pretty hard to hit it
I can't tell if that will bounce or just get slapped..
That hurts my eyes to look at
Vibranium??
That silly sloped armor plate on the 113 hull floor extends all the way forward, unlike other IS tanks, so it's ridiculous for baiting those drive wheel shots
ohhh I see. So don't go for the drive wheel on the 113
You can still go for it, just be sure to aim high
the 113 seems super scary though. It's got an 8 second reload on a 122
I think is 4 has a similar reload as well
oh.
Blackdog has a 90mm. If the is3 slightly off a a perfect shot from the side it turns to autobounce on the 30mm plate
Not even close @nocturne sage
I though it did
IS-4's reload is over 2.2s longer than 113's, about an 800 DPM difference
IS-series tanks are one of the few tank lines that I always take seriously
I just saw someone complain about how the Panzer IV G is weak for it's tier in chat because they rushed in and got flanked from all sides.
Idk but is seems like it's a good tank but maybe it's just me.
I play like crap so it's the tank's fault. flawless logic.
Pz IV G is good but def not a flank tank lol
The tank itself has been very good to me, got 2 Mastery class badges on the Panzer IV D but not the G yet.
The G has pretty good armor capable of what I like to call "miracle bounces"
PZ IV G is a weird one..it's got pretty trolly hull armor and a good gun, but falls a little behind in mobility and it's turret armor is pretty bad
I never go full blitzkrieg with the IV, I'm mostly 2nd line offense and I try to stop any possible flanks. This same playstyle sort of applies to my StuG III aswell.
Usually that's the best way to go. Unlike the Sherman, which can hulldown, it's not really a front-line medium
I think the fastest game I've had with the IV G is like... a minute and 30 or so seconds?
I honestly have no idea what the heck happened in that game but the enemy team dropped like flies
yea shermans have weak armor, and an even weaker gun, atleast the real ones did, that 80mm being so short wasnt very efffective
Don't shermans have better bounce capabilities?
not realy, although frontal armor is sloped its not enough to realy bounce shots
I'm actually gonna get the Fury tank as a Christmas gift so I need to know what I can do with that thing. Is it good at sidescraping?
Apparently that thing has a mean gun
no, if ya wanna sidescrape real good do the brit heavys
not really, that's just unnecessarily exposing. your strengths are a quick-firing gun, decent gun mantlet, amazing gun depression, and good overall characteristics.
them and the russian IS seires are real good at it
The shermans can bounce just dont expect it
Ah so if I already play the IV G safely I gotta play the Fury even more safe?
you should be hull down as much as possible, use max gun depression and keep moving to maximize your chances of getting a bounce off the mantlet or a miss altogether.
Mmm, gun depression <3
i just figured out one reason my seidescraping would fail when im flanked, i would hide my frontal armor instead of rear
Yea like tiger said, hull down is the name of the game. Ur turret it good against meds and light same or below (in my case) its weak to prammo and any high pen guns. YOU HAVE ROCK UR BACK AND FORTH WHEN HULL DOWN
yep, don't sit still and expect to bounce anything. keep moving, expose as little as possible, and keep the gun working. your pen is bad, so keep moving to get into better positions, track tanks, etc etc
In the T30 line, which tanks are good and which are bad?
Light and meds u can cut like butter but anything higher liek a t7 or a heavy is a no go
T28 Proto is bad, t30 is flexible, and the top is a no when the other top td is better
Already at hellcat
Hellcat is amazing. T25/2 is below average. T28 Proto is god-awful. T30 is solidly above average. E4 is a disappointment.
Oh:( not a good line then
yes m18 hellcat was one of the most effective tank destroyers of WWII
Just grind the t28 proto then research the other t28
that would be one of the worst decisions you could ever make
I want the T30, thts it
In your own opinion, which is more noob-friendly
Tiger I or Panther??
if you can struggle through the 25/2 before gravity comes, you can spam Proto there and hopefully get close to the T30
If I remember correctly if the u go the t28 proto, the xp needed to get the t28 is reduced if u go from t28 proto to t28
hmm, havnt used either but i can pen the tiger alot more often than the panther
Panther has good sloped armor, no?
@nocturne sage but those are two of the worst tanks in the game, grinding them back to back is a terrible idea.
I can't get past leopard so I gave up on Panther line
Is the dracula going to be in the blitz fair?
I want smth with a big gun that's all
Isu 152
Go for the e100 @pliant viper :)
@solid gate not that we know of, but it is possible that it will be released in a later stage
iif i was to do a tank destroyer line which one would you reccomend
Oki
268 or Jageroo
ok
Well, as far as turreted TDs go, your only options are E4, 4005, and Grille lines
Imho the best Turretless tank in game for it's tier is StuG III but that's just me being biased at the only tech tree I've played
Will the wheels come to blitz? Like the Ebr and such?
no way, way too fast
Maps too smol
all you gotta do on a map like mines is just go over the ridge, spot everyone take a loop around the map and bam youre gone
@south gust Probably not, and that’s a good thing too. On PC, EBR’s are hated more than arty. arty
a tank im surprised no one is using is the jagd 8.8, only bad thing about it is the power to weight
Jag 88 is OP rn. It’s just a little boring
also GL tryna control an EBR with touch controls, some PC players can’t even handle it
@lyric copper Not just controlling it, but hitting the dam thing is the problem
like even the grille has to give lead on PC
Lmao, understandabe
Wait..the Grille has to lead it's shots? Nani?
Will they add Type 5 Heavy?
no
Maybe
Grille? Pffff, even the K-91 has to lead it’s shots against that stupid thing, and K-91 has like 1800 shell velocity compared to Grille’s 1200
just go to #785858421819441182 -discussion and scroll up, have fun reading
@wispy rain yeah nah K-91 has BS SV in PC
...What? The Grille isn't the most accurate and highest velocity gun in the game!? Come on, that's it's entire thing!
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@wispy rain Grille is the most accurate, but lots of tanks have higher shell velocity. Most mediums on Blitz and PC have ~1500 shell velocity on their APCRs
They're too big for the maps that we have right now in the game @signal ginkgo, wargaming has said that they won't be adding them in
Oh, I see
if you went to #785858421819441182 and actually read stuff, you’ll know they completely scrapped the idea and probably won’t ever return it to the ideas board
😭
How those are big but a Maus is "small" enough to fit maps really
Thats what i whas thinking
it’s the fact that at tier 7, they already maus sized + very strong frontal armour that many equal tier tanks need prammo
What about Mauschen?
@solid gate It’s because WG has technical difficulties with the size of the collision model. The “it won’t fit Blitz gameplay” is their excuse to save face
^ what positive said
Sad Wirbelwind
Threres also the fact the maus had to be down sized a bit to be fitted into blitz
Most tanks in Blitz don't have their proper size proportions anyway
Which gun should I use on the t-34-2? The top 400 dmg gun or bottom 280
go big or go home
What's the difference between pantera and progetto 46?
prog has faster unload time and is smolboye
What’s a good t6 premium?
@vagrant sage Cromwell B, Pz.IV S
Anything other than Cromwell b
that is all, if you want TDs use SU-100Y and D.Max
the CromB is literally the best tier 6 prem
Funny cause I already have it
then play it then
Will I regret buying Fury once I grind the Easy 8?
@clever badger yes, only reason people buy Fury is either for collection or because they liked the movie
It's solely a collector keepsake, the Rudolph, and the Loza's Sherman are effectively copy pastes of the Easy 8 as well
And some of us have to have all of them
checks username
Username checks out.
I probably take too much pride in having all of them
looks at your username
I’ll you let in on a fact (despite his username he doesn’t know much of post war Sherman’s
Unless I’m confusing someone else from over there
Bite me im getting better
Custom numbers on camo when
@clever badger inb4 people put “69” and “420” on their tanks
not as op as the T1 Heavy, but yes, if played by a competent player, destroys low tier mm
I also bonked a T1 in 2 shots
50TP sighting
How much does it cost in gold to get my skorpin g back my brother sold all my tank and I want skorpin g back I have had it for a year and is is gone plz help
umm around 3m credits?
the price u sold it + 10%
you can look it up...all the price tags are listed in the blitzportal
Mit dem Wiederherstellungswerkzeug im Spiel können Spieler und Spielerinnen Premium-, Sammler- und Eventfahrzeuge wiederherstellen. Die Eigenschaften von
Skorpian G is 1.420.000 credits
While I'm stuck with this might aswell go full on nuts with it.
I call it "Low Profile Pepega"
6.1 seconds reload
And turns like a dime
And that stupid cupola aint poking out
It's everything the VK 36.01 H isn't supposed to be
It's like a scuffed T1 Heavy
But fast
Any thoughts on my brilliant creation except it's suicidal?
Oh I had a lot and poured it all on the equipment, I just got this tank as you can see
that stock turret is a piece of crap. running the small gun is fine but using the stock turret for whatever reason just kills the tank
The stock is the worst thing I've ever laid eyes upon and used. I would rather fire a Leopard's gun 500 times.
Small gun is just me being mad about 7 second reload
So i just met the 50TP prototyp
Seems to be legit
Can you shoot the mg and do damage
You mean on it ?
No
So it doesn't deal dmg to him?
no, it's not part of the hitbox. just a visual.
And to be honest it’s decent tank met it now 2 times
on paper the IS-8 seems better. although I haven't faced the TP yet.
Tvp actually has some hull armor
that driver port thing in the middle ruins it though, and the lower plate is rather large and equally weak
It has an armor profile that won't just be a press 2 and pen. People will have to actually aim, and you can screw people over when they try to do that.
Also is has solid gun depression and turret armor.
8 degrees on gun depression with that turret is pretty nice
Hopefully we’ll see the polish heavy tanks come in the coming months
I’m really hoping the tanks come in the form of researchable tech tree tanks and not collector tanks
the 50TP proto is going to be collector, and that is not a good sign for a hypothetical line
Ik we can compare tanks in blitz to pc but I’m using tanks from pc as a platform to base of speculation, if im correct(probably not) the 50tp is a premium in pc and and the t10 is the 60tp so maybe there’s hope
50TP proto is in blitz already, and it was announced over a year ago that it would be collector, and not tech tree.
60TP made e100 obsolete for months even a year until it had to be massively reworked just for its reputation to be established
It’s still going to be interesting, how they are going to be, it’s a nice tank unfortunately collector....If it would be a premium tank then it would give me a reason to buy but as far as I remember, I heard nothing about the credits coefficients... still interested and I guess we will have to wait some.... 5 weeks? Not even until the Czech joins too here
@gentle wasp the 50tp proto is a premium on pc. The line is still intact for adding it to blitz.
I’d want that line. I dont care that it doesn’t have gun depression
Aight, pick my next few tier 10s to buy/rebuy
While you guys make me suffer or no?
E3, e5, e50m, 268, t62a, is7, 183, 4k5, 4202, 113, 121, 113g ft, and 50b are the options.
4202 all the way!
Go for E5, it's my second fav heavy for now @hollow notch
._. The no pen in heavy meta, and the ammorack on tracks. Oh boy
Well, at least it's pretty mobile, and the turret is very good as like the cannon @hollow notch
183 isn't an option
Why not. He wants to have fun that’s what the 183 is for. Use it in ratings if you want to protect your stats
Stb-> 4202-> e5-> 121-> 113-> 183
Now all I need is a lotta credits
I forgot my first priority
Yes lol
I like e5, 268, 62a, 50b the most out of your list
aight..... soooo I am aiming to collect ALL the t10 tech tree tanks..... I am NEARLY at the point of getting one of the T7 Soviet TDs.... WHICH one do I get first? SU-100M1 or SU-152?
152
Eh 152 line is so popular idk why 100m1 line exist
you will regret grinding the 100m1 because of its horrid gun depression
so... next question.... are the 122 guns worth it?
@ancient iron In Soviet Russia, bigger gun is better
Jokes aside yea use the bigger gun
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For the SU-100, should I be using the 100mm with gun rammer, or the 122mm with calibrated shells? Assuming that I’m running supercharge and refined gun for both
yes
Hi! I just bought Tiger I. Any tips how should I play with it?
play good
Play it like a medium once maxed out and use mobility to advantage
Its a solid tier 7 tank
Tiger I is basically a medium tank, play the medium flank and angle your front armour correctly @solid gate
Obj.268 vs obj.263
What are the pros and cons of each of them?
Obj 268:
Pros (My opinions):
Mad gun accuracy
Aim time average
Mobility best for TD at tier 10
Armor is sometime troll
High HEAT pen
High camo rating
High DPM for a 640 alpha gun
Cons (My opinions):
Armor kinda bad most of the time
Kinda easy to ammorack
The back is very lightly armored, even Tier 5 can pen
Hard to grind stock
Obj 263
Pros (My opinions):
Highest DPM at tier 10
Troll frontal armor with a big manlet
Very nice mobility
Can be a serious threat if not dealt correctly
Camo rating is nice
Pen is nice
Cons (My opinions):
Open roof, which mean very easy to see where to ammorack
268 has best camo rating, 263 being in second place
flexibility of 268 is much better than 263
mobility of 268 is not best, that title is for foch 155 or grille or 263
268 is much better than 263, mainly due to much better flexibility, damage per shot and penetration
263 is more fun to play tho
Tysm
@inland ivy @keen garnet OK thank you both
Make the frontall armor of the vk168 atleast this
How are the is3 and t28prot defender tanks? I take it they are decent to good. Free exp => snow globe luck.
Are both best as more of a support role/second line?
Second liner their armor isn't the greatest only decent, unless you're doing hulldown on the IS3D. but just don't get the T28D it's kinda meh
Too late. Globes gave me them. I was hoping for other tanks but - hey- it’s free
Thanks though- you confirmed my suspicions @glass relic
Is3d is the best IS-X variant (fight me)
T28d is meh
@hollow notch is3d eventually gets boring if you miss half of the shots at mid to point blank range
still the best IS-X
And add him the 15 cm
i like is7 the most
Ew
Is6 is the most fun one
3d is the best one
None of that non-tier-8 business
:c
Well i have all three Defenders, I don’t regret it, they also have a good credit coefficient soo yeah
Thanks. I can’t complain for free tanks.
You’re Welcome
Can Someone give me tips to play 183 ??
I hate it when i switch to hesh but not pen (even when i scope)
The LTTB is the closest tank to an EBR in blitz, chande my mind.
@kind isle u need to play it somewhat close to enemy
gun is not reliably in terms of accuracy to pull of hesh pens at range
What should i buy first?
BDR G1 B
AMX ELC bis
Or Cromwell?
elc
Ru is faster
lttb has stupid acceleration
RU has higher top speed but bad terrain resistances = takes time to accelerate.
Which one to buy?
E5
don't listen to the people who think a minor hull armor buff took it from one of the worst meds to some kind of beast. also it's ridiculously overpriced.
i better keep savng so i can have more for atleast few slot garage and a premiun
REALLY?! Ok then. Thanks
Yes, but it has worse acceleration and lose speed when turns.
IS-7 best IS tank? Laughs in ammo rack and prammo pen
The m60 isn't garbage. It's just nothing spectacular
M60 overcooked? lol
"overcooked" is that supposed to be a joke or what
If you think that's overcooked look at Obj. 140
@DrearyDepp#3214 the upper plate
Comparable to e50m's ?
Where did you even see that?
Everyone's talking about big boi tanks and I'm just here staring at my tiger I that I haven't even used yet
Someone keeps telling me the Tiger 1 stock gun is super bad, is it?
Yea 145mm isn’t great
Which of them is the best for winning battles and completing Christmas stages
The bdr g1 b, good armor for a tier 5 and if u decent enough u can win
is4 is best is tank
Yes
Man the amx ac 48 second stock gun the rng accuracy is just bad
Hello, where can I find the is-5 (obj 730)? 😅
@shrewd copper u gotta complete the whole clan chest supply or your supply to buyable the is5
go to your clan page, click clan access (left button in the middle of the screen), scroll down to level 10, and click the is5 in the rewards section
Does the is5 give lot of credit
@lyric flume its gives but not as much as Lowe like 30k or 40k
Ok
It's a good tank imo
I will get it when i get enough gold from ad
Thanks guys! So I must pay 1500 gold to get it, correct?
Yes
no
@pallid flame what
stop ping
I hate you
I love you
Thanks 🙂
Your welcome dude
i hope i get 7500 so probaly may i buy a tank in the auction
So umm why I can't pen a vk 36 with a Churchill 3 which has 150mm prammo pen? The only way I can pen it is from side and rear. When I check vk 36's stats I should be able to pen it easily
Use Hull down, Use turret
Btw, I got Skorp in the Snow Globe
Depends, or use side scraping
any advice on vk 100 p cuz I think the tank is obsolete, it has no armor and it's slow
I get penned in the front
It has armour lol what you doing
the lower plate is huge and so is the cupola, the sides are flat, let alone the back
I think they should buff it or something
What happends when u have the maltida bp and u get another one?
U get gold
Credits not gold
Ok
@Shell City#5196 um
Ever heard of sidescraping and wiggling?
If we removed the tank's weak spots it will be broken.
tiger 2 is impossible to pen for me but we should just leave the weakspots on the vk 100...
no other tank has weakspots apart from me...
everyone just wants weak spots on VK cuz they can't accept that they are trash at the game
lol
even the best player in the world will lose with the tank because it's a big piece of fat junk
can't possibly be because you don't know how to play it
^^
I can't even grind with it, I spent 50% of my battery and am still stuck at 20k xp, I think I will go nuts by the time I get to mauschen
no you just can’t play it correctly
you're just spamming battles on tilt, how is that going to help anything? and newsflash, if you can't play the vk odds are you won't do any better in the Mauschen.
don't blame me, blame the tanl
it is you
then how come I win when I play with my Su
How come I win when I play vk
pretty sure they put you on the right team
ah yes, rigged MM. it's been 15 minutes since some monkey cried about it.
“Right team” not really I carry in the vk
it's not the matchmaking, when I play the team is on one side and by the time I arrive, they are all gone...
sounds like a you problem
the team is always bad luck
stop blaming me, the lights and meds come from the back instead of playing how they are supposed to...
stop blaming the team, all you do is complain instead of actually playing well
Think about this way. Both teams are probably muppets, but almost always somebody is going to lose and somebody is going to win. Random battles don't have plans, don't have teamwork generally at all, and are far more casual/laid back. So you can't really expect people to be good at the game in the slightest even at tier 10 due to the game's free-to-play-with-micro-transactions-in-game system.
If you are having trouble getting places with the VK, get the better engine accelerator equipment, get the top engine and tracks, and get your crew to 100%. Avoid hills and water where you can. If you want some of your team to come with you, say so in the chat.
On top of that, it's unfair to generalize what all lights and mediums are supposed to do when each one is a unique tank with unique tanks and weaknesses. Same goes for heavies and TDs. Look at your team composition and try to figure out what your team is good at, then play to minimize your team's weaknesses or maximize your team's strengths. If you can't do that, try to maximize the enemy team's weaknesses or minimize their strengths.
^^^
a lot better than anything I could have strung together
but everytime I do something, I lose...so what am I doing wrong
not looking around enough
Maybe you should take little break of this game and come back stronger
The VK can do several things very well. It has a lot of armor all around, so it can angle and side-scrape quite well (just not the turret, your turret needs to face your enemy). If you can't sidescrape, try to bait upper hull shots from enemy tanks and keep your cupola as hidden as possible. You are very heavy, use that to your advantage to ram for extra damage or push people off a ledge to land on them. You can also keep mediums or lights from escaping by physically getting in their way, and most mediums/lights aren't going to ram full speed into you unless their going full panic or yolo mode. You have a high alpha gun with a long reload, use it to trade shots with your opponent to maximize what you can do with it. It's not the most accurate, so sniping or snapshotting is not advisable. Your HE from what I remember isn't bad either, try using it on tanks like T49's or SP-1C's to ruin their day. You have a lot of hitpoints, use them to eat shots for your team and generally be a big fat shot magnet so your squisher teammates survive longer. Even if you die, that's fine. If you know your going to die, try to get into a position where your corpse will be tactically useful for other teammates to use as cover. You can also block off narrow passageways in strategic locations since the VK is a chunky boi.
As for the VK's weaknesses..you're super slow, obviously. You need to choose a flank or area of the map and stick to it, trying to go across the map will take far too long for you to provide assistance. If your flank is clear, push through the fastest/safest route to flank the rest of the enemy team. You have low DPM and will struggle against mediums and lights who can circle you with your poor turret and hull traverse speed. Try to not give them enough room to circle you and try to keep them off your sides or rear unless your angled/sidescraping. Your cupola and lower frontal plate are big weakspots, hide them as much as you can. Since you are slow, have no camo rating whatsoever and will get spotted very quickly, and have a poor turret and hull traverse combined with an inaccurate low DPM gun, it is extremely dangerous to go by yourself unless you absolutely know for sure you can get into a brawl with whoever might be there and come out on top. Try to stick with teammates, and keep a close eye on the map. Your armor is very good, but it won't stand up to likes of ISU-152s or tank destroyer premium ammo. If you think your getting shot at by a tank-destroyer with high pen with premium ammo, try to sidescrape as much as you can or get into cover, and out-trade them since your hitpool is much larger than theirs. Against an ISU-152 or other 150mm+ guns, you need to be careful sidescraping since they will able to HE your sides and do damage even with your thicc spaced armor and tracks. Not sure on this one, but maybe try putting your gun in the way of the enemies gun or raising it so it sits in front of your cupola and then wiggling the turret..it might help you a bit.
Alright, I'm done yapping your ear off. Go have some sweets, take some deep breathes, go do something you know you have fun with, then come back to the game. Having less tilt and salt will help you in the long run and will make grinding so much less painful.
oh ok
alright, next subject before my fingers fall off from typing
Can you sidescrap in action x?
@Shell City#5196 you ever loaded prammo against a tiger 2?
It is a grey box.
I think the action x is 🐕 💩. Everytime I play it i regret buying it months ago.
You are not supposed to side scrap in it
Even tried playing it hulldown?
Also it has nice dpm
And while you are hulldown keep moving so enemies don't hit your cupola.
Why does the t44 85 have basically light tank mobility
Because wargaming said so
Correction, why in the heck is tier 7 mobility so inflated
VK.100 sidecraping would be op, if it had no cupola.
Sidescrape on the side that completely hides the cupola
what tank is worth to buy in the auction
Where is t-15 ?
it comes on Christmas i think
Maybe new year
Yea, where is my 750 gold?
British high tier premium tanks are annoying to deal with. I think you just haven't mastered it yet