#vehicles-discussion
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60tp heavy line (European line) is pretty decent for starting out, reasonable armor, higher than avg alpha
interesting, thanks. I tried the 60tp on a test server in vanilla wot and my only issue with the tank was that it had low pen. I heard it had similar issues in this game, but I assume it would be OP if it had higher pen, so that's just a balancing factor
you'd know better, I am just speculating to an extent
What’s a good line here to follow there’s so many I am lost in which way I should go lol
BuFF the Grille 15 Gun <———
From what I hear, the easiest EU tanks are Italians for mediums and Polish for heavies
Italian autoreloaders have the burst potential of autoloaders without the vulnerability and punishing gameplay of regular autoloaders
Give vz 55 a good legendary camo
literally the best gun in the game bro
Probably the reload but the damages is bad
580 alpha is pretty good considering that if you miss its a skill issue
Ok chat, worth or nah?
Noted.
If you know how to play a medium then maybe
I’m not the best at medium tanks so idk, I just look at the gold price usually
T25 pilot is okay now,it has tungsten to compensate
Standard b is fun for the HE pen. (Thats the only tree EU tank I have rn)
Pen 3 HE shots and thats ~1200 dmg
Thanks m8, interesting to know...but I'll pass on it at this price point.
They’re selling Kpz 70 in a draw because they announced it’ll be tier 10 and people will rush to buy it before it’s sold as a tier 10
How much you wanna bet they could make it cost as much as a tier 10 in the draw and people won’t notice
@neon gull Don't flood your screenshots without any context. Try go to #📖how-to-chat-here instead.
Biter competition is over gng
YOOOOO I’m in Warsaw rn and the train passed this vehicle that I’m certain is built out of a T-54 hull I know it is and I can’t find any information on it or get a picture of it I didn’t get my phone out in time
I can’t find anything about T-54’s repurposed as railroad maintenance vehicles or anything
Found a picture of it it’s not good quality but still it’s this thing
For the Kv1, 122mm or 85mm gun ?
The 122mm is unreliable but packs very good damage
its features similar stats as a "derp gun" means very inaccurate and low pen but very good alpha damage
the 85mm is much more reliable, its more accurate and has access to higher pen premium rounds but it has a pretty unimpressive alpha damage
generally derp gun, like the 122 struggle alot when shooting on distance or sniping small weakpoints, ideally you want to mainly face unarmored tanks, tanks with big weakspots or sides of tanks in a close range so they are a easy target
derp guns can be fun to use but have huge downsides, I would recommend the 85mm performance wise since its more flexible
Thanks for explantion !
I stay on the 85 mm 🙂
That is polish WZT-2
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/d04tog/wzt2_based_on_t55_used_by_polish_railway_operator/
Yees that’s it :) I did some looking and saw that’s what it is
hey, opinion on new exclusive biter tank?
Y'all can foch 155 get buff? About armor pen and speed? Didn't he used to be fast
its fine rn
tbh the stock single-shot could be better
What is Negan tank from today youtube giveaway? and which tier
It’s just a camo for the tier X m48 Patton , everybody will get it for free anyway if they complete a quest later
damn
I would make the fv183 b 215 canon on the fv4005 how on the pc version and I would make more alpha damage
2000 alpha HESH you say
Had anyone thought that indien panzer turret is somehow similar to lowe turret
It’s the same general shape
Yes
Yoo, everyone
Stay away from the balancing department
Off topic but why did I read that as "indian paneer"
Going to the Warsaw tank museum rn
I’ll finally get to see an IS-2
Out of all the tank museums I’ve been to that’s one of my favorites I still haven’t seen
Foch 155 is pretty busted rn
I hate that tank
The thing about the foch 155 is it's hard front armor and it's insane reload speed is damn infuriating everytime I see it in a match
IS-2 YEEEEAH
and 7TP and TKS too
Does the P44 Panthera play like the Leopard 1 or the STB-1 in sniper mode?
No?
Where to find redeem codes for apac server
Lovely another thing I cant unsee
😂
NIce Name🇨🇭
you gonnna be at the plane event tmrw?
What plane event?
its in warsawhttps://nocwinstytucielotnictwa.pl/english/ heres the english ver
I’d love to go to that if I was in Poland rn
Oh also the KV-1S (or what’s left of it) is here
hey it wasnt there last time i was there
They had a section of destroyed tanks
KV-1S, Hetzer, Panzer III, Panther, T-70 turret and a Stug casemate
Might be unpopular opinion but i think Ms1 needs to be added to war thunder ^^^
I just bought my 500th tank in blitz
Can anyone help me to change my email becase i already tryed and it didint work
But not all MS-1’s most pictures had a more sloped to a point hull
One of the things that we get to have that they don’t
But we do get to have concept tanks and they don’t that’s what this game does best that no other tank game does
You get to play tanks brought to life that only exist as blueprints like Tornvagn, Löwe, MBT-B, Chimera all that
When I saw this Sherman I noticed the logo from the Grom legendary camo is a real Polish marking I like that detail :)
karl
you didint know lol, its for the polish hussars, much like most unit and battalion symbols, it is of a long ago age or usually the 1800s, for the poles, the germand and soviets its usually in the timeframe of the Tsar for the soviets or even medevil, germans mediveil age and the poles around that time too
this guy right here had a stand off with a german panther tank when it was trapped within a sector of a polish city..reminds you of a certain scenario ey? let me find it real quick
okay so not this tank, but still of a polish armored regiment
funny how this is like bob early's incident lol
that IS-2 is of this unit
#vehicles-discussion message have to admit the IS-2 particularly this 1944 version with the slanted glases plate or the 1944 armour improvement programmed version is rather a goodlooking tank, that gun is quite literally displaying dominance over the german 88, I will point out though...the driver of this tank had nerves of titaniumironsteel because any fire would likley be around his centre mass, he is in the middle of any impacts hitting the front there, thats nuts..
I knew it was hussars ofc I just didn’t know this specifically was a tank marking
Is Herdbreaker good?
hey guys im a brand new player and im wondering which tier x should be my first
as it stands e50m. Might change after December tho
so it might get nerfed?
how about 60tp hahaha
if memory servs right the units embowing that winged emblem for the hussars, would be official militants, but the groups embowding the polish people's red eagle crest, would belong to a partisan type group integrated into the army...must be some thing to be of non military background for say the majority of the duration of the war then be placed inside an IS-2, which to be fair from the outside is nice and mighty, but inside pretty much like any soviet suffocating box
wonder how thick this particular area is given the repeated his it should receive by anti tank gun fire, given the fact it is the driver area, too many accounts say that soviet drivers would face certain demize due to the hatches being bent shut, the extensions to pull up the hatches would be tight shut after impact as they are at times bent entirely on impact, I presume this tank would think of a very good counter measure as now its quite literally in the centre of it all
Hello,
I would like to focus on two tanks. I already have the T8 from the 60 TP line.
I currently have the option of upgrading to the T8 of the IS7, M48 Patton, and E100. Which other line should I upgrade first alongside my 60TP?
M48
Ok thanks, that will give me one heavy tank (the 53TP) and one medium tank (the Pershing) at T8.
In your opinion, how many battles do I need to reach T9?
it really depends, but I'd say around 150
150 battles ??
Oups i have 1K battles and still in T8
like usual t9s cost around 150~200k free xp, so if you only play the tank without and sort of boosts it may take double that actually
if you talk about battles in general like Total battles in you account it's really very from person to another
like I got my first t10 on my account within 1k battles because I focused on one line
tho I'd say nowadays ×3/×5 xp, premium days, boosters, free xp can help a lot
I deliberately stopped my progress at T8 to learn the maps, etc.
I saw that for the 50TP, you need 95K XP to unlock the gun and turret.
I'm thinking of saving the 95K free XP so that the tank isn't stored.
Is this a good strategy?
maybe, idk
Hum ok. Not good to play a tank stock after buying no ?
yeah don't, just play it in gamemodes to get it's parts first
Oh, you mean playing in game mods to earn XP and get upgrades?
yeah
Good idea. Because 95K free xp It's hot to have
Renault FT-17 tank - an exhibit at the National WWI Museum and Memorial in Kansas City.
Interesting fact: the front drive wheels of the FT-17 tanks were made of wood.
perhaps the world war 1 in service variants but the ones used in world war 2 for example by the secret state police or the luftwaffe boarder patrol guards would not have such a flimsy modification
Hi guys, choose chieftain or super conqueror? I want to buy one of them
Skonk
Chieftain for fun, sconq for reliability
Sconq is a lot more forgiving and overall more reliable armor if you make mistakes, while chieftain u can get crazy farm damage with HESH and better mobility in comparison
Thanks bro, sconq i think. For fun, fv4202 is probably almost the same as chieftain
Yeah that’s the sad part, even if u can get even bigger dmg numbers with chief now. really do hope they add the old gun as another option back during the tier X rebalance
how do I play with this wr-lowering machine?
By playing another tank and earning free xp
You don't
What do you guys think about the tier 7 Japanese TD Chi-To SPG? I have to grind a tier 7 TD.
Man my goal is to grind EVERY single tank in this game. But that TD i will only use it for Fun modes and do enough credits/XP with it until I can get rid of it. I heard horrible stories about it.
You are going to grind the whole thing? That's a lot of tanks! I'm trying to do the German line, got almost all up to t6.
Yes sir. I am done grinding all tier 5 and 6. Working on all tier 7 tanks now.
What do you think about the T-25 German t5 medium? 2100 gold.
Not worth it
Should I save for the French Panther (brigidne or something) medium t6 for 3k gold? I've only got the grizzly as any special tanks
I agree. Not worth it. I got it for free. But it did help me get credits. And I did pretty well with it.
I can't help you with that one as I don't have it.
Bretange panther is good, but I'd save up for a tier 7 or higher personally
I saw it in the store & I want All German tanks, Vichy counts. I'm just not rich or I'd go broke on the game LoL. Being poor every purchase counts. & I try to stay in budget.
Anyway..
I'm not ready for t8-10 yet, I'll be t5-7 for awhile:) I was thinking I'd get some low levels 1st
How much experience do you have in this game? How long? You should stay within tier 6 and 5 in the mean time and learn the game. My coach told me to stay away from tier 7 until I reach a certain point.
Anyone know the mastery xp bar for the su101? If it's hard to play I predict around 1k xp should net that golden m
time to suffer. Ill free exp the thing as soon as I win a stock match
Go to zombie mode to gather exp.
when I see the tier 9s im cooked
absolutely amazing
the second best tank in the entire line right after the tier 10
Thank you both @icy wadi .
Elke when
💀
50 degree gun depression hell yeah
Hstvl prototypes cool
IMO it'd make sense for Turbo to have Improved Engine Power Boost since Turbo is meant to be have a lot of mobility, but it only has the normal Engine Power Boost
post in #tank-balance-discussion and wait, I guess?
personally I can't play casemates at all though
is that tank somehow worse than other casemates?
Yes
I played 3 games stock and 1 game with the top gun. 2 degs of gun dep on the stock gun and 4 degs on the top paired with awkward mobility and meh armor. Camo is one of the best in T8 though
I guess it's intended to be a sniper. If you have camo and the gun is good enough to do stuff. It's a TD anyways
I wonder if I suck at casemates because they require more map knowledge than other tank types. is that the skill you find yourself relying on?
I just sort of drive around and shoot stuff, and I guess you have to plan ahead a lot harder to play a casemate
For things like the tortoise and isu yes, not so much for At-15 and jpanther2. Anything that is slow or team dependent needs more planning or coordination. Exceptions are super armor tanks
SU-101 has the BL-10 syndrome so good luck hitting anything other than tracks
got it, thanks!
after using 150k free xp on the SU-101 its not that bad
40km/h speed with 14 km/h average reverse is decent and it turns quickly (around T-34-2 quick). Stock goes at 25-30 forward and turns fast as AMX M4 45
do you want 230mm of penetration? yes
it turned into a superior game
Idk what happened to my PC🗿
wot update in update new right IM out thats game so long
T32 or T26E5 (JUMBO PERSHING)
T32
this tank is pretty good
very much enjoying this one
Please help. I need a tier 8 French heavy to do event missions with. Which one y'all consider to be the best tier 8 French heavy? My preference is hull down. Thanks .
yea K-2 is really good
I like Somua
Hull down right? Is it an auto loader?
It’s an autoloader and hull down ehh it’s got a big cupola
It’s pretty much AMX 50 100 but with armor
Idk if you have Sentinelle
I don't have sentinelle. I basically use premium and collectibles tanks for missions. Almost every event I get missions to do with French heavies.
Hopefully Somua will be on sale at the store soon. I only have the AMX M4 45 to do missions with.
Even tho I actually got the sentinelle I completely forget that thing is in the game
I bought 1 crate as a lol and I somehow got it
And AMX 50 100 on tech tree I like that tank it’s good try that too
Gotcha, thank you so much. How's the sentinelle?
Outside of tier 8 I love AMX M4 54
Eh basically just Yoh 4 but with three 120mm shells instead of 3 105’s but it does get tungsten tho
My friend, my hands itch to get that tier 10 pros use. I think part of it's name is MLE.
And usually I like tanks for the tank itself
Sentinelle idk what it even is, it’s just a made up hull with the stock tier 9 progetto turret? Like what?
Really? Lame!!!
But basically yeah it’s a made up tank
Some made up tanks I really like if the design is cool like Vipera
Heading back to work. Thanks for the input my friend. Somua it is!
I’m gonna play my sentinelle a bit and see how it is lmao
Haven’t played it much since I randomly got it
I actually kinda like it ngl
Even tho it’s such a stupid tank i actually kinda like it
And the 120mm Yoh IV kinda gun is fun to use
Where it’s an autoloader but takes like 7 seconds between shells and then longer to get the shell set back
Surprised this thing hasn’t come for sale yet tanks that released after it already have come back in some way
Guess WG forgot it existed too
you have this one too
this is a stupid fun tank, like if you losing winrate or any stats this thing is awsm
Yeah but i usually just rather play my ISU 130 or 152
Playing my Strv 81 and having a centurion RAAC teammate helping me got me thinking how many centurions are in this game
Well depends what you consider counts
Like does FV4005 count for being a centurion hull
Or if it does then does Strv K count for being a centurion turret on a Kran hull
Strv 81 is so unnecessary but I absolutely love it
It’s Swedish, PBR and has a VERY nice realistic dark green color, something the British tech tree one doesnt have (PBR or nice color)
For British centurion I’d just rather play Centurion 7/1 tech tree tier 9 it looks much nicer
this is better
Ye
Memories of a better past
the ke ni otsu is powercrept as hell sadly
wait, is it different for each player? mine were usa, britain, ussr, and china
Im not sure my friend. For this week mission i was supposed to win and survive 13 games in a French heavy. It's like a clock man. These events always ask me to do something with a French tank. I need more vehicles.
oh wow, that's really specific
No way a Somua SM enjoyer
I got a Germany mission this week and I only have Tiger Frontline
No Tiger 131?
I have literally never touched the German line
Which gun is better? DPM wise the single shot is better but I’ve seen people run the auto also
Can I see more of the stats (for both guns)
Anyone sealclub tier 5 and 4 with the 105mm sherman or the 105mm pz 4?
Just use the KV-220-2 if you wanna seal club tier 5 lol. Tho the gargoyle is pretty damn good too for that purpose
back in the pre 5.5 era, was the 122mm U-11 howitizer HE pen high (around 50 to 70)? 122mm U-11 is the derp gun on the Kv-1
wasnt its name centauro or smthn....basically a centurion
Nope, even before 5.5 it had the pretty poor pen
Centaur
You're thinking of the Italian "Strykers" for the Centauros
Any opinions on the centurion mk 5/1 RAAC dominating matches in a good player's hands?
Yeah, the reasone why it played better was because we didn't have a lot of well armoured tanks and because of the +2/-2 MM. That gun against tier 3's were awesome.
Please buff 60TP Lewandowskiego
How do I use fv4202 correctly? The only thing I know about it that it is a armored leopard 1 hesh sniper
Sometimes I go to the Frontline because I believed my turret was strong enough to bounce some shots
Isn't KV-220-2 really rare outside of APAC? (or was it EU?)
nope, the KV-220 gets sold for 5€ pretty dang often on eu
you're thinking of the panzer 4 hydrostat that's rare on eu
I know KV-220 was given out to players in Russia at some point, but I don't remember if Russia is EU or APAC
60TP is good the thing id fix is NO APCR change it to AP
how do you play the wolverine? it feels like a downgrade from the m8a1 because it's so slow and unmaneuverable. it's too lightly armored to play like a heavy because I can't even poke out without being destroyed, and too unmaneuverable to play like a medium because I just get circled by other mediums. if I try to snipe then all the enemies just pop up on the other side of the map, then I have to chase them down, then I get the problems with the heavy/medium gameplay
the gun is barely different from the sherman/t1 but the platform is so much more difficult to use
I noticed the newer TDs have more armor than a heavy, meanwhile the wolverine has both less armor and less mobility than a medium
sorry for the wall of text. tldr struggling with the wolverine TD
They should make 60tp more accurate PLS it's an ok tank but just need better accuracy
Agreed
tbh wouldn't the 60TP be overpowered if it got buffed? I feel like it has relatively few drawbacks that are there to balance the fact that it has higher alpha. if it didnt have drawbacks then it would just ez stomp everything by abusing its alpha
The only change I would make is remove APCR as standard shell PLEASE
Why from apcr to AP someone explain
Something about normalization makes APCR have less penetration in practice
But from gameplay experience dunno if this is actually part of APCR but it ALWAYS gets stuck on sideskirts and tracks and never actually pens
Especially on heavies with thick sideskirts like E-100 or something like Type 71 it’s always track crit never a pen
Shell normalization as far as you should care is the angle at which the shell decreases the effective angle of an armor plate that it hits. For a 200mm plate hit at 60 degrees:
AP with 5 degrees of normalization will encounter an effective angle of 55 degrees, 349mm to pen
APCR has 2, so it encounters an effective angle of 58 degrees, 377mm to pen
HEAT and HE do not normalize, so they deal with 400mm to pen
it should
Is the T-34-1 a bad tank? I have to grind it.
It's okay for a tier 7 med
100mm with pretty good pen, dmg that can be increased with tungsten, small hitbox with a solid turret, average mobility.
The only things you gotta watch out for are fragile modules and poor gun depression
Thank you so much!
chinese medium gun depression is hard to work with for me, but I figure if you're that far up the tree, you're used to it already? if not, maybe it's good to keep practicing in the lower tiers, not sure
pretty strong outside of that, I think
Also since going up the Chinese med tech tree, you might wanna hoard up some exp
The tier 8 & 9 have an awful amount of stock modules just to get the functional ones
I just find it harder to play without gun depression with mediums than heavies because I try and take some sort of tricky firing position with mediums, while I just drive forward and brawl in the middle of the map with heavies
I'm actually not sure how a medium tank with weak gun depression is supposed to work at all
I have about 4 mediums with no gun depression and I did well with them. Type 58-08, T-34/100, T-34-85 and Type 58. 50%, 51%, 48% and 61% wr.
neat
Yoooo im digging this tank. Thank you so much. Three games in a row with a 
Gang stuff
what do i want more? obj 268/4 or super conq?
sconq
this tank
I remember liking the wolverine...Its just rough once people start shooting you lol, I think I repositioned alot when I played
yeah it's a tank with a learning curve, I hope learning positions will help me
tempted to get super conq from store ive been saving gold but its frustrating because it doesnt come with equipment slots....
When I bought my 121B a couple years ago I saved up gold forever and it came with all its equipment slots
15000 / 16500 gold isnt cheap and literally it not having equipment slots is putting me off from buying it because grinding credits is not fun and I have a couple other tier Xs I need to buy first from tech tree
also the 5x it came with were able to be used on any tank and not just the 121B....ugh
Couldn't you have waited for big boss and farmed credits in that mode
Ig I could...but its still a pain to grind credits when your using them....
would it be worth it to get super conq then or should I wait for like a good tier 8 2 in 1 deal thing
seal clubbing tank means you're competing against other seal clubbers maybe? idk what tank that is
It is the mitsu 108 teir V
oh yeah, I wonder why that has such a high ace requirement. people say it's bad
must not be that bad if the potential performance is that high
Also why with tech tree tier 10’s aces are near impossible I looked at my profile and I’m like “what how have I never aced the Kran it’s my favorite tier 10 and my 2nd most played tier 10” and then I’ll get 6.5K damage in it and it’s not an ace and I’ll be like “oh that’s why” where in some tanks aces are just “you actually played this tank and won? No way” like KV-4 or some other rarely ever played tech tree, or insanely rare premiums or even premiums no one uses
Aces aren’t always a symbol of skill
What’s harder? Getting 6.5K damage in the Kran or 2K damage in the KV-4
I know it is hard for Xs to get it, once I did 6,700 damage and 4 kills with my FV215B 183 and I got a 2 badge:
Because the acegap is depending on other people
Nobody plays kv4 while a lot do play the kran
Yes
I did 3,500 damage and 5 kills with my Kv-4, so maybe that is your problem
That’s what I’m saying
Aces are different per tank even if you play insanely well in certain tanks it still won’t be an ace
While some tanks are so underplayed that aces are more like participation trophies
Yeah KV-4 is a good tank I like it I’m just saying getting aces in it are easy since the bar is so low
Until enemies find out how to press “2”
What do you mean?
Until enemies find out what premium ammunition is
the KV-4's armor is decently thick, but not ridiculously thick unlike something like a T29 or T32, so APCR/HEAT goes through it
you need crazy amounts of armor to block gold ammo, and the KV-4 is unfortunately just decent
I want to show a replay, but I don't know how to upload replays on discord and stuff like that
E6 cupola:
what about it?
why would you willingly play the mitsu 108
is it just me or is the amx m4 45 garbage compared to the arl 44
Lmao how is it gonna look if you get marks of excellence on T54E2 its gun already has stars on it
wouldn't be surprised if they just turn into a z fighting mess
Plus how is it gonna work on tanks like chieftain mk 6 that has a sleeve over it
You will most likely get stripes up further front on the gun
its hard to ace since players with bot mm, can just easily raise the ace bar
✅ n0tsk0rpi0n was banned.
true, I was surprised it only took about 2k damage for me to ace the M7 considering it gets even more bot mm, and is only a tier lower
noob question but where is the biter obtained? I couldnt find it in game
I just want to make sure I dont miss out on doing what I'm supposed to do to obtain it, since it's based on a limited time event apparently?
apparently there is some method of obtaining it for free by grinding an event? I'm trying to figure that out
the event is not released yet
you can get biter through wins requirement,about 17-18 wins per days in the span of 10 days
so that would be wins after the event is released, but not yet? so I dont need to spam games yet? thank you
yes,and dont listen to anyone telling you to sell the biter.Keep it no matter what
anyone managed to hit a HE penetration using the Kv-1 122mm U-11?
I only managed to do it once against a wolverine at 50m. Bounced Alectos using the 122mm for some reason.
What I have to choose between super conqueror or object 268/4??
sconq easily anytime
Bro cant you know what next info?
Since I stopped playing this game is there any event?
wow XD
Playing in mode?
Do you have it
Yes
Then you are doing something wrong ❤️
It seems like it has no pen at all
Was highest tank on team still got destroyed first lol
How do I use fv4202? Everything can pen its turret
Do I go to the Frontline or behind my teamates
Play more passively
Instead of brawling (brawling as in directly engaging with enemy tanks) play as a supporter, wait till enemy makes mistakes or is distracted and/or flank
I only play it in gravity modes
You can use the gun propellant to ram and kill ANY tank
need a new legendary camo for e6 the piranha one is kinda mid
what is the best armored tech tree medium?
As of now E50M in my eyes. Could change in a while though, since T10 is getting a re-balance in December
thanks, what about something with more troll armor, like a russian or chinese medium? as opposed to thickness
Does the m48 patton have the most legendary camos oat?
that goes to the IS-2 berlin, its an actually historically accurate legendary camo, just not PBR yet
Hi
Hi Is WOT admin still answering questions here?
Yes, it has 4 and is tied with 140 and one other tank iirc
140 only has 2 camo
It has 4 now, or at least will have 4 soon
They may, but that depends on how much time the individual staff person has. What usually happens is that staff monitor these channels and prepare reports for those who can't check for themselves.
You can always post your question. Another player may know the answer and reply.
Very low chance and they mostly not care especially when its question related to why we get new crates or P2W content
That meant most camos, IS-2 1945 only has one
yes
it just has 2 other legendary camos tho that ppl use
Does it have a legendary camo?
Inventor
Can you show me a picture?
what's the angle to get ricochet 25°? side?
basically m48 cold glow camo thing
What do you guys think of the VZ 44-1? I bought and played 3 games already. It has no upgrades yet. Reminds me of Tiger 1 P.
dunno, most of the newer mid-tier tech tree tanks seem pretty generic. I feel like WG usually puts the interesting features at the top of the tech tree
Got it.
Below-the-poverty-line version of the Porsche Tiger
It's neither in the camo section nor in the shop. How can I get it?
What does anyone think about bc bourrasque
Gotta wait for an offer to pop up. It might if you play the tank
@soft harness ye
30 degrees is safest bet, for heavier side armored tanks 45 is safe too or when low tier versus weak pen tanks
if your gun points in these locations, you are generally at a perfect 30 to 45 degree angle, typically 45 degrees implies the gun go over the sprocket wheel almost off it to where the skirting starts, while 30 is usually on top of the mud guard, but nearer to the machine gun operator or the bog (Bow gunner)
Ricochet angle is 20 degrees in game, and generally pointing at the corner of your hull either direction will get you there in most tanks
Although most tanks need to go less than 20 due to an overmatch bug feature that happens with spaced armor and external modules
20 is too low
30 is actually the amount, richochet implies the gun trying to hit you cant penetrate the specified armour value now at the angle it is, but over all for the armour to be at its most effective state univerally by the viewing gun of the enemy its 30 for more armored vehicles and 45 for less, uite useless unless the armor is granted very good for the vehicle if at higher tiers, best bet for higher tiers, bait with the sprocket wheels around corners, bait at an extreme angle with the front plate with vehciles not offering or a shot trap or pike, or bait with the 30 degree angle for decently armoured vehicles on the side when side scrapin
It’s not, 20 degrees is the auto richochet angle in game
20 may be the richochet angle, but again it impies the weaopn firing at you cant pen at that angle which the armour of your tank now displays this new stronger value
The issue is that most tanks can be penetrated rather easily if they angle past 20 degrees on the side
otherwise to be on the safest side 30 for more armored to the front, or less armored to the side or 45 for more armored to the front and good armored to the side
30 degrees is far too much angling in game, much less 45
you never ever drive in a path which keeps the 30 degree angle you must always give a wiggle
it actually isnt, 30 is on the sprocket wheel or the mud guard but closer to the bow gunner, and 45 is on the sprocket wheel just almost getting passed the side skirting where it starts at the front
for the tiger as an example 30 is generally favoured while for the IS designs 45 can get you good bounces, all needing wiggling, for some 30 is good too
Is 30 a good idea for Caernarvon?
Also with Caernarvon, you’re probably not going to ricochet at all from the sides
Here’s a 30 degree angle with the caern, and as you can see, a tank with terrible pen has no issues going through
uhh.. whats that red
That’s penetrable
you forget there are roadwheels and side skirtings further reducing pen
Here’s an easier visualization, green is penetrable
Blitzkit takes all game mechanics into account
okay so then caernavon is one of those heavies with terrible armour
I thought we knew this already
i speak of relatively well armoured tanks, @plucky summit dont play it
But you play against it
in general, decently armoured or well armoured tanks need 30 or 45
Here’s a Tiger @ 30 degrees Vs IS, something with mediocre pen for tier 7
nope almost never see a caernavon and when I DO, lete be hounest, I dont see them angling
bruhh, alrighty then..hmmm wow
If you want a rule of thumb for heavies, go for 20 degrees if you’re being defensive, and angle appropriately to hide the lower plate if you’re being offensive
this is without the calibrated?
Yes
okay then 20 it is....but thats weird, why blitz why, okay but then again I meant wiggling I always wiggle and go to 30, maybe its because at 30 when wiggling now back to lesser degrees, at that angle to wiggle its more confusing and less room for errors when wiggling to 20, maybe thats why I get very good bounces and I use the IS-2 berlin
IS-2 has an odd armor profile so it’s unconventional to sidescrape with
get good bounces verus say the mauschen, IS-3s, Tiger 2s at times, wouldnt say its that bad
Why you failtooning bruh 😭
?
Mauschen is a tier 9
aha ye ben in a few tier IX matches lol, weve all seen them
Only happens when you toon with a tier 8
but to be blunt, in my experiences, unless the enemy guns have a higher point of fire to my top hull for example, which is the only time I experience excessive penetrations..I get bounces
20 is very nice for IS-2 (1945)
i dont...toon much...so what gives then?, can someone else toon in tier 8 and then you end up being in a game where its tier IX?
You sure it’s Mauschen, not a VK 168.01 P?

pretty sure its mauschen but yes vk 168 also bounces me on the sides, but for mauschen knowing its tier IX i go now to at least a 20 degree angle or even 15 to get a bounce
Oh damn it will have 4
Yo guys, is Italian tank destroyers worth grinding
Currently at the T8 (SMV CC 64) and it's insanely good for me
if you like the playstyle so far then yes the mino is very much worth grinding its a good tank
Why is the Pershing so underpowered?
isn't there a broader balance issue with tier 8 mediums?
but to answer your question, I think it's because it's a tier 8 medium
hello, i wanted to know what are the chances to get this tank in the new boxes that you can open with the free key wargaming gave us?
it is
unknown
Classic case of a tier 7 pretending to be a tier 8
They should rework the tech tree to move everything down one tier and have M60A1 as the tier 10
Pershing tier 7
M46/47 Patton as tier 8
M48 Patton as tier 9
And then M60A1 as tier 10
M47 could've stayed in the proper tier 9 position if it had the Italian or French modification
But nope we're still stuck with the T32's gun
what the hell
just no man
don't ruin the tt like that
should i buy X SuperConqueror or wait for badger? already got X collectible kpz 50t / 268/4 / chief mk 6 / carro 45t / vk 90.01
Feel like it’d make more realistic sense based on realistic power scale of these tanks
Pershing definitely doesn’t realistically match up against what tier 8’s are now same with M46/47 Patton with what tier 9’s are now
There’s been power creep in what tanks are added now
help
Get the conqueror
sconq easily
maybe i should wait for badger or nah
too much work just add tier 11
no
Hi, Do you happen to know how much the AMX M4 mle. 54 gold costs?
GSOR fearless def could use a little faster turret traverse or less dispersion on move
usually goes for 17,5k+
anyone know if this is also finally a really legit camo like the IS-2 berlin, let me know pls, looks pretty legit, bridging weight number of no more than 19 tons allowance, serial numbers standard of US army ordnance department and shipping number on the back, US army star roundel for ID, colour scheme is bizzare, looks more german than US armored, their colour scheme come slightly post normandy, was the black band and standard olive greeen paints, i think the name was Standard Paint 10 oh and lets not forget the 1st armored division A and 436th tank destroyer battalion triangle
oh and A company 10th tank of the company, you know what let me search the 436th tank destroyer TDs real quick
too funny, its like wargaming is intentionally trying not to make really real camos, instead go out of their way to find some 3d made one...isnt this quite literally theft? solution: use a real hellcat camo, also solution: steel 3d art from not wot related content for hellcat camo to add to blitz (no one will know)]
they just added the propper insignia and stamps and stuff
@nocturne mirage sounds like you should just play WT instead of Blitz
I play both
what if I want my tanks to have hit points though
tbh I think that's the only real difference. do you like your tanks with hit points or some weird "realistic" damage model that you have 🤓 over
wt is for nerds I just want to drive around in a tank and shoot other tanks
Yall is the Projet Murat tank line worth it?
From the tier 8 and up the tanks are solid, the tier 7 is not enjoyable to play imo but once you get through it the line is nice.
Which one is better M-VI-YOH or T110E5
Chat is it worth to get S conq for 15K when I currently have these collects? I was thinking for a med but not sure.
@mint wagon Grille got BAGGED
lmao nice
👀
The Błskawica looks a lot different irl than in game
yeah its a other Timeline
its the first version
this one its the last one update version
what do you think? ye or neh #news-discussion message
Alright thanks
I wonder why everyone keeps saying the KV-2 is mediocre. It feels super busted with instant ammo switching, you just switch to AP and one-shot tier 5s, or switch to HE when you see heavily armored tanks. It's pretty easy to do 3k damage in it if you dont overextend
vanilla wot doesn't have instant ammo switching which really holds it back
that being said, I like instant ammo switching for keeping gold spam in check
remember guys, its a good day to have a great day
To be fair if your crew is somewhat trained you can also switch ammo in just a few seconds
not in a KV-2, and the KV-2 benefits a lot from being flexible with ammo types
or maybe they added a feature I'm not aware about? idk
AE phase 1 needs 116 f3 buff
wha???
whar
I grabbed sconq myself, i dont think the 1600 gold one is worth esp when it doesnt give us the maxed equipment :/
Yall check this out
Those are all bots bro
It's a Tiger Frontline so idk
Bots will intentionally bounce/non-pen you once you get into a certain amount of HP
The VK45.03 who has enough AP pen to butter through your UFP let alone your sides is still non-pen proves this
Do you guys have any suggestion which one the good combination?
Left side:
1:Either since the tank doesn't have heat and Apcr doesn't get a big boost from calibrated shells. 2: Aim-time 3: Accuracy
Middle: 2, 1, 2
Right: 1, 1 or 2, 1
Anyone run vstabs or tracks for equip?
You get bounces by bots that are supposed to bounce🤯
Bro how was I penned by a 183 here
That part is just visual, it most likely went through the turret behind it as well
Dang thought this thing had turret armor
It has a decent turret, but TDs tend to have higher pen
Apparently foch doesnt even need to load gold to cut through it
Truly sad, reminds me of upcoming atlas tank turret
How good is a T14 tank?
No
@fresh veldt I simply MUST let you know that overmatching armor does not mean a guaranteed penetration (though in your drawn example, it will, as in most cases)
Oh thanks as I mentioned I went by memory, could you briefly explain how it works?
It’s as you wrote but the shell will attempt to penetrate regardless of angle. This is not a guarantee of penetration, just mainly saying that the auto-ricochet rule does not take effect
Ah I see that makes sense, thanks alot!
Three calibers?
Mhm
Shell caliber, not pen
IS-7 is easy to ammorack, just aim for it.
Is MT25 good
Not as good as it was in reforged
We have emergency track where you can reverse if your tracks broken but we don’t have assault tracks where you can move forward if their broken
Can we get this on a tank
I feel like that isn’t really as helpful as emergency track
Emergency track you probably want to back into cover if your track is broken
So they turned 4005 into a gsor except far worse
VK-90 is op gad dam
Do you guys think WG wants us to begin playing the game at closer ranges? Shell speed nerfs look like they want us to go 80m instead of 120m for engagements
Do we get any vehicle after crossing 10 k battles??
Quest for either a T7 certificate or the Aufkl Panther =)
What's that quest ??
Winning one battle iirc
How about we get this Churchill artillery
I highly recommend taking Aufkl Panther so far that’s the only possible way to get it, so if you pick the random premium there’s no way to get Aufkl (as of now)
Same with Schwartzpanzer at 20k even it’s nearly the same as panzer 58
^
Huh?
Finally got the Grille 15 after months of farming 🔥🔥
I even bought the skin, equipped it with everything possible and it's maybe the best tank I ever had
congrats its a really good tank and i really enjoy it
whats the best tank right now possible to purchase with gold because im afraid ill do something bad with a lot of gold i still have…
Depends on what playstyle You prefer and which tank class is Your favourite. Mine for example is medium tanks so T-22 Medium is still my favourite tier X Collector. I also love Erich Konzept 1 which is a tier 9 medium collector. After they gave it the autoloader gun it is much fun for me
i heard about the t22 from more people that its absolutely worth it x tier so im thinking ill probably get it when its available (hopefully black friday brings luck)
obj 907 is in the store atm and thats also a very good medium
I agree it is a good medium. I also have Kpz 50t and like it too.
Grille is an expensive tank to play
I kept losing credits playing it
I was playing like 5 games a day, it's hard to me to start from tier 5 to 10 without premuim
Dang, you mean with ammo prices and consumables?
Not ammo but the consumables that that HE dmg reduction ks just so dang expensive and also the oil thing
Is*
Standard and HE ammo used to have a price back in the day. Ah those were the days of hardcore grinding. Making credits is far too easy now
Well and repair costs💀
Yeah. I remember grinding credits was hard. Now I'm sitting at 100mil thinking what am I gonna do with it all 😄
Lol, I once went broke bc of that (I kept playing in rooms and died for fun) at a point I battle with 3 or 4 ammo to save silvers
Good ol’ bt7 suicide rooms on canyon
Omg loved that era, BT7 was one of the most affordable fast tanks with Luchs back in the days, we used to do races, discovering Easter eggs and trying to go out of map pushing eachother to go on top of montains or some
Also wanted to know guys, if there's any suggestions for my build. It's for the Grille 15 so I was curious about the best setup
2,2,2
1,2,2
1,2,(the one that allows you to use consumable for more time)
Thanks
PLZ ADD INDIAN TANKS
Nah
We pretty much have most Indian tanks in the game
Centurion, Vickers, T-55s and the AMX-13 are already available in the game
Bhisma, Arjun and Ajeya are Gen 3 MBTs so no go, and the most likely that could be added is the humble PT-76
Maybe add like flags in wotb like wot console and the normal wot and wow
When will we get this Churchill xD
New ammo type : HE stink
Please make a flag tank gamemode everytime there's a collab with girls und panzer🙏
Whats with the racism
Reducing anything indian to curry and bollywood is racist. Educate yourself
Indien pz💔
Mock all you want, stats talk louder than your sarcasm — Arjun and Bhishma will handle the reply.
Should I get this or not
For 7.5K absolutely not
Unless you really like the tank
I have favorites even if people say they’re “bad” like T95E2 I love that tank
Mt 25 users do yall usually use the tier v gun which fires more or the tier vi gun which has higher pen?
The autoloading 57mm gun
Anything else is more suited to other tanks
Aigh thanks
Should i buy KPZ 70 for 10k gold?
10k gold for a future tier 10. Knock yourself out
yes man as it going to be t10 in future
Guys how do i even survive with my Tiger II cardboard-armored bruh
Its so damn hard to pen and its hurt as hell when hitted
autoloader, several hundred games and 52% WR with the MT
Dam i have around 160 games and almost 50% wr just got into a losing streak just now how should I play it? Like the leopard and just harass people?
Exactly! It is excellent at circle of death and delivering killing blows from behind, either sneaking up or flying in really fast. I found I rarely had problems with the KV line, always able to out maneuver their slow turret and keep their gun pointed away from me while peppering them to death. Just note, many "heaviums" and even some slow heavies still have a turret that can keep up with you if you have to circle them on a hill.
I think hunting and killing is always first, but you also have to remember lots and lots of guns out there can 1-shot the MT, so always be on the hunt rather than hiding, but be smart
I noticed that when pumping the top tracks for the T28, it does not have a second row of tracks, but in reality it had two rows of tracks to distribute the mass of
T28/T95
T28 Super Heavy Tank/T95 Gun Motor Carriage
Which designation it took on depended on the doctrine the US applied to it at the time
In game they’re split into two different tanks “T28” the tank without the second set of tracks and then “T95” has both
(Both names refer to the same tank T28/95 are just to split them in game)
If you got T28 just wait until the next tier in the tech tree to get those second tracks
Tbh it would be difficult to create an entire tech tree for india. We don't have indigenous tanks, atleast not the ones that were used during the world wars. Not even prototypes.
Perhaps a tank that takes inspiration from arjuna or bhishma but comes under hybrid nation is possible.
Damn stop no lifing the game so much then.
Edit: seems like bro has smell fetish
I wonder why American tanks don't have meth as a consumable
Indien pz was supposed to be a prototype that got scrapped in the early stages.💔
just got lorraine 50t should i keep it or sell it to buy leg camo of new polish td's
Do I grind to e100 cuz since my last time playing wotb before the season ended I was close to e75
if you like big bonk yes
But I'm lazy
then dont 
Aight I'll grind to e100 later
Is obj 263 still a yolo wagon?
Just sidescrape blud 
E-100 is must
Also E75 isnt hard play since you can angle and be fully red to others
As far as I understand, all players believe the T28 doesn't need a second row of tracks. However, the tank was originally designed with a second row of tracks to distribute the weight, and sometimes only one was installed. Therefore, I propose adding a second row of tracks after upgrading the module.
They’re on T95 the tier 9
(T28 and T95 are two names for the same tank)
T28 is the first prototype, and T95 is the next more improved version, so these are two brothers and not the same one.
To make a clear comparison, it's similar to the difference between the Panzer VI Tiger and the Panzer VI Tiger II (Königstiger). At first glance, you might think they are the same heavy tank, but they are two completely different machines with different designs, armor, and guns. It's the same with the T28 and T95 — one is the first prototype, the other is its improved, final version. My suggestion is to visually show this progression on the T28 itself.
No it’s just the one tank just renamed
No? It’s impossible to confuse a tiger 2 with a 1 at first glance
There is no difference it’s just a different name
Guys, let's check the facts. According to the U.S. National Archives / Tank Encyclopedia, the T28 and T95 were designations for the same project, but the T95 represented a specific phase of development with structural improvements. In-game, they are modeled as two separate vehicles for gameplay purposes.
If you like playing with one line of tracks so much, then go ahead, but I ask the developers to add the ability to have a second line of tracks when installing a certain module.
It's exactly the same with the T28 and T95, they are completely different tanks.
No, it was redesignated multiple times between T28 and T95 throughout the process
T28 was the designation used when the US wanted it to be under Super Heavy Tank doctrine. T95 was the designation the US used when they wanted it to be under Gun Motor Carriage doctrine. This changed many, many times throughout the design process, meanwhile the vehicle stayed relatively the same since its inception
Exactly! You just proved my point. It was redesigned multiple times. In the game, the T95 represents the final, full-track design. My suggestion is simple: let the top tracks module on the T28 visually represent one of those redesign stages, adding the outer tracks to show its evolution. It's about visual progression, not turning it into the T95.
My mistake, meant redesignated. If you actually read what I wrote you’d understand that I don’t agree with you at all
It wasn’t really redesigned at all, with the biggest change coming in the armor upgrade later, but that’s really all that was changed about the tank. If you look at the initial designs compared to what it became, it’s basically the same thing
You're right that the core design was similar, but the redesigns weren't just on paper. Visual differences included:
· An improved mounting system for the outer tracks on the T95 for faster removal.
· Added roof armor over the engine compartment in later versions.
· Changes to hatch and vision port layout on the superstructure.
These may seem like minor details, but they were physical upgrades. My suggestion is to represent at least the addition of the outer tracks as one of these visible progression steps on the T28 model when upgrading it.
Oh boy, such big changes that… don’t really do anything. You’re reaching atp
It's not about 'reaching', it's about respecting the tank's history and making progression in the game more visually rewarding. You might not care about these details, and that's fine. But for players who appreciate historical accuracy and visual customization, this would be a welcome addition. I've made my suggestion to the developers clearly. Let's agree to disagree and let them decide if it's worth implementing.
In blitz the T28 is made to represent the 8-inch thick prototypes while the T95 represents the 12-inch thick prototypes, the major difference between the different ones tested. While the T28 in game is no longer accurate to the 8-inch thick measure, it’s still close enough to count tbh
I mean it really doesn’t change anything, it’s not really respecting the tanks history because the version you want is quite literally in the game. It seems more like you just whining and complaining that you actually have to play the game to get to what you want. So in the end, yes, you are reaching.
I said everything I wanted, and now it's up to the developers to decide, not us.
They’ve already made their decision dude, it’s in game lmao
Here's the tank you want buddy, you just have to actually work for it
You can say whatever you want, but the developers will still have the final say, and yes, I already leveled up the T95 a long time ago.
I get reading is hard dude, but it’s pretty clear what the devs have decided
👍👍👍👍
But you see, we already have tanks in WoTb from nations that don't have full tech trees. There's the Canadian Ram 2 that used to be listed as a premium tank in American tech tree (it recently became collector), there's the Egyptian M4 FL/10 that is listed under the hybrid nation, iirc there was also an Australian tank that was listed as premium in some other tech tree. Perhaps wargaming could do the same by listing Indian tanks under UK tech tree (cuz you know, the game mostly has tanks from WW2, and India was sadly under the British at that time). Warthunder did the same. Indian tanks and fighter jets were categorised under UK tech tree.
Yup
Tbh why not
both ac sentinels and the 5/1 are australian
guys i either wait weeks for 30k more free exp or i just stock grind the is3 for the big gun, whats better
Get the free exp
Yeah i totally forgot their names. They're listed under UK too
Light tanks needs more camo and im not talking about 3-5% more concleament im talkink big, the light tank role is useless in wotb.
Will e50m be nerfed in the next update if yes THATS bad
Yes it will, and no it’s not bad
E100 recommended for New player
Like me
I on Tiger II
e100 is actually worth getting if you want a white wr
e100 is a strong tank and it doesnt require too much mechanical skill to play so its quite good as a first t10
E100 is great
Sounds like you are playing it wrong matey
i ain't the one that uses it, but more than half of the e100 users i met in battles are the ones with white wr
what im technically saying is: e100 is not a good tank as your first t10
oh yeah, unless ur making a reroll account.. but i doubt
E100 can be good but yes 90% of players are white wr or just started lol
i mean if a player does badly in an E100 theyre probably not gonna do much better in any other tank
the average Wr for most t10s is in the white isnt it tho
Will the KPZ 70 become tier 10 in the new wotb (reforged)?
Armor must be fixed
Thicker and heavier
WG must fix the German's RnG becuz it is too low
What cannon do you recommend for the M41 Bulldog tank?
I think autoloader
devs can you add a special game mode for mbts
The peashooter with 3.5s reload
What’s the likelihood of the AMX M4 MLE 54 dropping as a stand alone deal? Should I be patient or take advantage of the current French container deals that are in the shop at the min in the hope it drops in one? It’s the one tank I want to get my hands on
I'd really recommend waiting for a direct offer. Gambling for specific tanks isn't worth it in my eyes.
At least from crates that could drop one out of a ton of vehicles
Yeah that was my thoughts but I’ve heard the rank doesn’t really drop as a direct offer very often at all
Wait until December, that's when those tanks usually come out
Guys,im playing this game for a few months but still have a problem finding my suitable tanks.Can anyone help me?
nashorn is cool
well what exactly have you liked in the tanks you've played so far? What are you looking for in a tank?
First i looked in the easiest for begginers.then i discovered i like aggresive playstyle
hmm and do you like to move around or be the rock to hold off people? Go for something like E50M medium line for great sturdy medium that can be aggressive. For heavies, you should probably try the russian heavy tanks since they're somewhat fast but have good armor.
For aggressive TDs, the 268 is absolutely amazing but the new Tšekkoslovakian TDs might also be of interest for you. I haven't played them myself but they reward you with higher damage per shot the closer you are to the enemy
the FV215B line could also perhaps be pretty nice for aggressive playing although the tier 8 and 9 tanks aren't perhaps the best examples. I haven't played the early line in years but black prince used to be amazing
Im went with russian heavies but the armor is trash,everyone penetrates me like im a light
which tank are you playing and how exactly are you playing it? Most of the heavies aren't impenetrable, you have to hide your hull and lower plate for better protection. Remember to sidescrape unless you know how to peek-a-boom better
Well i played germans td,then british mediums and now curently russian td and russian heavy
yes but which ones? I want the tank name so I get a better understanding of what you could be doing wrong. Just few of the ones you most use
German: the panther line,i reached until panther 2
Uk:centurion line,reached until centurion
Russian td:at line,i reached until at 8
Russian heavies: i reached until VIII is
Is this enough or should i go in more detail?
ok so lets start with the panthers. The panther 1 is great at being a little bit more aggressive, you have massive DPM but you need to wait for opportunities to get to use it. Track people and keep the tracked. Don't expose your lower plate if you can avoid it.
Panther 2 is awful, I never liked it but treat it as a support tank. You are a worse panther basically, you should avoid 1v1 situations but if you get into one, face hug the other person and go for rams since your tank is heavier than usual mediums. Play a bit more defensive
Centurion has amazing DPM but it's a very bad example of a medium tank. Play it the same as panther 2, except you can use your turret better for hulldown situations. Try to track people with your gun and out DPM them with your fast reload.
Russian heavies are both very different at tier 8. IS 3 is a fast heavy tank with a good turret. Use your speed to get into good hull down positions were your lower plate is covered. Your gun hits hard but reload isn't the fastest, keep that in mind.
KV-4 has nice armor when you angle it, try to wiggle between like 60-45 degree angle to try to bounce enemies. You are a side scraper that can hold a line well, but try to not get flanked.
The Russian TD lines are very different. The line leading to Obj268 is a frontal assault line first and foremost in MY PERSONAL OPINION. You have amazing guns once you reach the BL-10 gun on the ISU. It's smooth walking to tier 10 after that since you pen everything. With ISU you should play as a sniper at the beginning and then use the fast speed of the tank to change position or attack depending on the game.
The 263 line is difficult for a beginner and even me as a veteran struggled with it so much, that I gave up and free xpd it. You have great DPM on all of those tanks, but hardly no armor (aside from the 263 itself) so try to flank and help the mediums with it
Thanks for your time texting,i will analyse it and see which one to choose
45-60 degree angle is far too much for the KV-4, you should go 30 at most tbh
Here’s a 30 degree angle, any more and the side is an easy pen
good point
What about the is 3?
You are searching for something that doesnt exist, everything is penable nowadays with gold
I bounce plenty?
IS-3 isn't good for angling but you could sidescrape with it to a certain degree. Reverse sidescrape is the best but it takes time to set yourself up for it
something like this works if you have time to set it up, otherwise just hide your hull and be hulldown. I'm a bit overangled here probably but yeah, try it. I haven't played the thing in so long that I dont know how much you can angle until they pen you
IS-3 is super easy to play if you go hull down, since you're essentially unpennable, it can sidescrape if you mind the pike nose and the sides can be troll against lights and some meds. Really versatile tank, I recommend it if you can work around the 5 degrees of gun depression
Isn't it's gun accuracy doodoo, and pen
I remember hating its gun
Top gun has mediocre handling, but penetration is good actually. At least I never had a problem with both aspects
I'm real sure it was unholy. Also banished to the void from whence it came. 😉
Why are there 7 different versions of the same gun
S👁️A👄4👁️7
Makes it easier for WG to change the parameters of each gun without accidentally buffing or nerfing another tank
Famous example of this not happening when they nerfed the long 90mm gun for the ARL-44 and accidentally nerfing the poor AMX M4 45 down to the dumps
It’s not a precision gun
Its a Derp gun, expect it to be clunky and inaccurate like every other Derp gun
The ARL 44 is still peak though
(Getting nerfed 4 times btw)
Peak French engineering
Does the Canon d'assaut Lorraine exist in WOTB
amx ac 48 minus the hatch on the back
Was there a balance patch recently
No, there is one coming up though
I saw people talking about specific changes to some tanks, where can I see them? I want to know if they touched the American heavy TDs or any germans
It seems like mostly buffs, but I'm not an expert at all so idk if I'm missing something
Why do people dislike the e100 change?
Is 15 less alpha really that bad?
Ayyy they are finally buffing the maus turret
And didn’t they do something to one of the Hellcats that buffed the other by a lot because hellcat and super hellcat use the same modules or something
I don’t remember which tho I think it was they buffed something on tech tree hellcat which also helped the super I think it was the gun
i miss 2000 gold
@wheat seal I gotta tell you right now that thang is NOT 120 tons 
The back half is empty
Still an uparmored E100 hull
You’re right! It’s bigger.
💀 It's modified VK4502A hull
Still shaped like and armored more than E100s 
Ew
Can we get the ricochet pen bug fixed for assault shells. I hope it gets fixed this coming update. It's annoying despite being an infrequent occurrence.
Yeah they sorta buffed the pen, reload (3 times) and dmg
And thanks to the janky hitbox of the Jackson turret, it oddly swallows shells it shouldn't
Any buff or nerfs for cheftain mk 6?
No penetration improvement? 🙁 also the shell speed is terrible 😞
But they did explain the general intention 
And as usual it makes no dam sense
And how is it that half of the thumbsdown tanks arent being changed since many of us disagree with such changes?
Because the greater blitz community is not good at gauging how to balance the game
Devs dont test their tanks which is another let down to many balance changes being bad to disappointing
That doesn’t mean that all of the tanks with large amounts of thumbs down are bad changes
which is the best t9 french tech tree tank
But also means the tanks with large amounts of thumbs downs are bad changes so there is that
That’s not at all what that means
I like AMX 50 120 a lot I think it’s pretty good
How about Waffentrager Defender instead of that ugly Waffen F1.0? WG seems to like defenders so i don't think it's a bad idea. Which tank would you wanna see in Defender version?
FV215b 183
Ohh yes s.c. got his reactive armor removed
Does the IS-2 gets ammo racked frequently? I started grinding it and I like it.
Not more than any other tank
Thank you. It does not have much health though.
It’s fine really
Should I use gun rammer when I get the better gun?
Up to you
Ammorack (yellow) is a bit weak but its pretty well protected frontally
Count your lucky stars if a large calibre gun tank flanks you
Will keep my fingers crossed.
Russian/Chinese meds
MS 1...
Ig
Tiger 1
For an agressive playstyle what type of tank is good?
Light
Lf someone for 3v3 tournament Tier X need 1 more player
Can anyone take some time to explain to me every tank type and its playstyle?
Heavy tank-slow but good armor and HP usually play in the front and can take hits, find a hull down spot to hide your hull
Medium tank-all rounder, usually good DPM and decent for spotting when there’s no light tanks but usually a mix of support role and attacker
Light tank-fast but weak armor/HP and good for scouting/spotting enemies a support kinda role
Heavy tank destroyers-play like heavies
Light tank destroyers-usually play more of a sniper role in the back
(They won’t tell you which TD’s are light or heavy you just have to see for yourself)
Oh okay,thanks but i have the problem i cant find my suitable tank.i like an agressive playstyle.someone said lights are goo for aggrasive playstyle but i dont like them.are there other tanks the best for aggresive playstyle?
Heavies probably
You have more armor and HP which allows you to be more aggressive and block or take more hits than light tanks (but don’t be too aggressive then you just die quickly)
There’s also “Heavium” not an official class
Which is an in between of heavy and medium
It’s a tank that’s officially marked as a heavy tank, but it doesn’t have much armor for a heavy but better armor than medium tanks and good mobility for a heavy so it’s more like a heavy medium tank, with the benefit of heavy level HP
So Heavium is pretty good at that too
And which heavy should i do?
Depends what else you like
Like an autoloader or high damage shot slow reload vs low damage fast reload, what nation you like or any specific tanks you see you like
I want a full defence dmg tank but also not crappy speed(not a lot of speed just not 5mph per hour or something like that)
But i dont think it exists 🙁
I mean no heavy is that slow
Except for like stock T95 or stock Mauschen
Even the heaviest tanks in the game aren’t really that slow
Probably try E-100 line everyone says that’s the best beginner heavy line and they do have good armor it’s got VK 36, Tiger 1, Tiger II, E-75 and E-100
Polish heavy line is also really good (60TP Lewandoskiego line)
Thx i will try it,but whats ylur thoughts on the russian heavy tanks line
IS-4 and IS-7 I love both of them the whole lines
Except the IS-4 line is weird the previous tanks don’t play like IS-4 since they’re KV’s which are slower and supposed to be more armored
IS-4 is supposed to be more of a mobile heavy
So between IS-4,IS-7 and E-100 which one should i choose?
the mobility is getting nerfed in december tho
dont remember by how much but i remember its gonna be slower
Idk you got several choices see which one you think youll like most you can preview the stats and design of each tank
I love the IS-7 line i play all those tanks for fun
I’m playing IS-3 a lot rn
Same with IS-8
And Im playing IS-2 Berlin a lot rn, more than IS but they’re nearly the same so close enough
The Soviet tanks shoot a lot slower and more inaccurately than the German ones tho
Can anyone enlighten me with the pros and cons of the E-100 line and lewandoskiego lins?
E50m
^ oh yeah and then there’s E50M
Which is basically a heavy armored medium tank
So you get both that mobility and armor
I don’t have E50M so I can’t say much myself but fighting them yeah they have an insane amount of armor for a medium tank
M48 Patton has good armor too I love that tank
I’ll just free XP it and see how it is before it gets nerfed lmao
I’d love to give ya some if I could I’m sitting on millions with no use for em
If there was a way to gift resources to friends (but I’m sure that would be broken and/or easily abused) like reroll accounts or hackers transferring everything to their main
Only time I’ve ever used the gift feature is a tiny purchase like under 5$ for a friend that is f2p that I’m trying to get them into the game but I want them to have like at least one premium tank or something because people get bored really quick if they’re forced to play only the one same tier 5/6 over and over or wherever the game gets to that point where you don’t fly through tiers and get the next tank in under 10 battles
That one point around tier 7 where the grind becomes agony and you have to play the same tank an insane amount of times
Only for your first time
No other tanks to play, no premiums, no premium account time, no XP certificates, no multipliers, no discounts, no boosters just the pure raw grind
And with stock tanks
And then eventually once you’re out of the trenches and have those things you’re all set
Youll never have to play tanks stock again, play only a fraction of the battles as before or even skip tanks entirely if you don’t like playing it at all
If the super conqueror has the same gun as fv215b and i have the super conqueror in garage then why do i need to grind that gun again in the conqueror t9
Germanifies your T-34 cutely (They have my family)
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WG views them as different gun models regardless
Can anyone enlighten me with the pros and cons of the E-100 line and lewandoskiego lins?
High alpha massive amour and slow t8 and 9 of e100 line are boring than the 60tp but overall 60tp is just better the e 100 is a classic supheav tank
E100 line is easy go play, straightforward
Overall decent armour, good gunhandling, decent alpha, okay-ish dpm
E100 itself is the generic superheavy except its gun - good players usually use the 12,8cm cannon as it has good dpm - especially for a superheavy
60TP grind (starting at t8) is really decent, 53TP is super good, 50TP is okay.
60TP itself is also pretty easy to play, superheavy with decent alpha but poor gunhandling armour profile is good against bad players - bad against good players
Is this a new tank?
yes squiwerd
For an agressive playstyle who wants full dmg and armor but also a bit speed which is better
60TP would be more fitting, I suppose
So i should farm fro 60TP then
aye empumm good to see you here still
remember me lol, the tiger fanatic lol, anywhoo...I am now all on board with the IS-2 berlin lol
because the conq doesn't have the same gun as the fv or sconq
Which is the best line of tank destroyers?
Which tech tier heavy tank in tier 10 do you think that will be the best after the baalnce patch?
I have a lot of success with 50tp in tier 9, but I feel weak in 60tp in tier 10
Can u explain why the 60TP is more suitable
i did in my original message #vehicles-discussion message
Oh sorry,my bad forgot it
@normal forge Which tier 10 heavy is closest to 50tp?
in terms of..what? Top of my head I would just say 60tp
Gameplay 😄
50tp is just your generic heavy tank
When I play with 60tp i feel like i am not mobile enough to reach the places i want
also the gun is not reliable, the low misille speed requires to wait long for the dispersion to be small
and the most frustating thing is that if a good dpm tank rush me there is nothing that i can do
@lilac night sounds like you want to use the E6
How about IS 4 after the balance changes?
i honestly didnt read them that much
the gun on is4 isnt particularly reliable but it will be a really good tank, still gonna be quite mobile i think and good dpm too
also the pen will be nice, good AP pen and really good HEAT
guys what is the funnest line to grind
that isnt a heavy tank
is it worth it?
pretty good deal for a t10 if you want to get one anyway, plus you might get a second tank if youre lucky
English only
Just good shot in Rhm.B wt tank on Burning Games. For only 930
so thats justice for a realism camo if I saw one, a shame its on the indian panzer
no less...very realistic, very german of world war 2 1942 1943 summer time type of camo here
by some units in the field, this is in the battlepass...wargaming using clever tactis to milk money for this camo
they should just sell em outright, no events, no comps, no battlepasses, just sell them, ill pay if really real
It’s just a shame the regular battle pass camos weren’t too
That’s really where we’re lacking
yeah I remember your name, nice to see you here as well. I've been quite inactive but I visit this server from time to time when I'm bored. So you're only playing IS-2 or what? Hope you're doing well
ye is-2 berlin
fair, never played the tank. Is the tiger no longer making you happy xd
It has the option to grind the tier X gun L1A1 it is exactly same as the gun on the tier X fv215b
Whats the best gun for the su152? Derp gun or just get better pen gun?
nope lol
How does one play the BZ-68
I will make my enemies feel the rapture I will make my enemies fear me I will make my enemies burn
Stock gun rip
Alrighty
You gotta be kidding me..........
A tank that used to be free, in the tech tree when French lineup originally came out, now sold for money? Seriously?
Just wg being wg
Good afternoon,guys.Is here players who plays the 60TP and E-100?i have some questions about the tanks
Me
Somua SM and t27 in shop when?
Not to mention it’s also in the battle pass rn so no need to buy this for 3.50 when 7 gets you it plus EVERYTHING else in the pass💀
It used to be tech tree tank. Now being sold in battle pass and separately. Seriously
A lot of tanks were removed from the tech tree and are now collectors
lowe in shop when ?
Entirely random
Nobody knows when a certain old tank will be back
But as a tier 8 premium at least they cycle those often
Panzer 58? yes no?
Hey guys. Are these fun tanks? Worth getting?
The VK is fun in the low gravity mode and the panther is mid
get panther if you want to get full hp ammo racked
lol
I sold my Action X to get the Thunderbird camo for the Concept 1B, somewhat bad choice
I got these two, pretty lucky just for 24€
So thanks for your feedback
oh damn thats good luck congrats
that native cammo gives 10 percent more aura and aim buff
never seen this camo before 🧐
Part of teenage mutant ninja turtles collab, only very limited/temporarily available
I’m going to lose it, I had 6 kills and literally took the shot at the last tank and it was credited to some stupid stock destiny I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A RAISENAI MEDAL FOR THAT
I’m going to crash out
damn 0.1s too late 😭
didnt know the 0.01% chance tank from the mistery boxes was such a bully, i can bully almost every tier 10 if i get into a face hug
This would’ve been my third Raisenai
I got 7/7 kills in E-100 and Charles (that French M10 Achilles BP tank)
Yeah u feel u,just remove destiny from the game,wg...nobody asked for that.
Yup,that's the p2w magic
Uhmm...
I never used it before cuz i thought it was Trash, never seen it before
It's busted
That's sad
But also load premium ammo
This game is not p2w
It's quite balanced and there are better tech tree tanks such as the t30
Why
How should I play IS and IS2 shielded effectively?
Is-2 sheilded:
Be careful with the lower plate number and cheeks,try not to sidecrape much unless Ur front is hidden
Noted , thnx again bro
Np,if Ur on EU lmk,we can play and i can teach u more
Bad thing I'm in Asia however maybe 10k battles IL start new account in EU
Kk
However just in case I start new account what's your EU account name?
Geman Td 🗿
German Heavy German meds 🗿
German light 🤡
I'll tell u when u do
Okay
The kpz 50 T❤️
Belle bataille !!! bonne journée à tous ✌️
Which is easier to play E-100 line or 60TP line?
Imo 60tp
Okay,thanks.going to switch on 60tp and leave the e100
Well no problem,but to me E-100 is underpowered
What u mean underpowered?can u enter in details a bit
I mean why u think so
Well,in the current metal is a free damage box,in the upcoming meta it will be the same imo
Okay,thanks i think i will forget about e100 and switch on 60tp
One more question,what about 60tp line or is line?
Which Is? Is-7 or is-4?
Mainly is 7 but tell me with is 4 too
Both would be my personal second and third option,i'd still go to 60TP
Is-7 is unreliable atm
Is-4 is trash atm but in rebalance it will be much better
So still 60tp best options?
IS-4 trash 🤨
As we speak,yes,soon,no longer
So far
Thanks a lot man
Current IS-4 is quite good lol
Not really,turret turning slowly,armor lacking,gun mediocre
The turret armor is insane, the gun is one of the better heavy guns and it has quite a bit of mobility
The only thing it’s really lacking is turret traverse, which does hold it back in some situations, but can be worked around with positioning
Didn't see any of that when i played it,but hey,old us-4 coming back in december sooooooo
Stop giving advice EVER
Get lost
@royal agate To make it quite clear, his advice is like a layla on exp lane going 0-10 after 7 minutes buying full lifesteal build
Oh so u know mlbb too
Yea 73% fanny main on about 1.3k games
Wooowww,a dedicated player indeed
Eh, even better than what I remember
Fyi i stopped playing a looong time ago
So everything he said,its bad advice?
Overall yes
Dm me so i can give you a detailed breakdown without that annoying cooldown
(Forgot to ping)
old is4 gonna be crazy
Indeed
especially with that crazy armor thats gonna be given, new top 5 holder tank imo
💯💯
just like back in the day when the is4 was considered the noobie tank
As a Canadian, it’s worth
Instead of making KPZ 70 tier 10 why don’t they just add MBT-70 or XM803 as a separate tank and have that be tier 10 (the American version of Kpz 70)
Or the other way around make Kpz 70 tier 10 I guess and have MBT-70 recreate tier 9 Kpz
But making the American one tier 10 makes more sense I guess since Germany backed out of development first and the US continued it before eventually giving up on it too
How should I play this weird tank
Hide your hull
Ok
Why would you add another tank to take the kpzs place when it’s currently trash
Tog II better
Make sure you equip it properly
U forgot the penguin emoji 😅
Penguin emoji
Once again proving that mystery boxes are the most broken container in the game
T-22 medium for 500 gold
wasted 8k gold got no mystery certificate
Facts
guys should i go for obj 263 as my first X rank
great
i wasted 7.5K golds on this, on summer
What’s good is they didn’t nerf mystery certificates at all
They’re still a 5% drop chance
And in the certificate all tanks are equal drop chance
Collect em all’s were nerfed to have all tanks each have their own different drop chances so better or higher tier tanks are like 0.003% or something
Collect ems have different drop chances now
Mystery certificate all drop changes are the same which is way better (take my word for it tier 5’s have the same one I’m not adding another screenshot)
which lines should i prioritize among these? (for tier 10)
preferably taking into account the upcoming t10 rebalance
Chinese meds
The german light tanks, they're gonna be lowkey op.
buy carro
Finish the tier 9 ones
Please allow ATAC using both gun in ranked 🙏 There is no reason not to do that...
I've da IS-7 currently goin for bat chat 25 t what should go for after it
The original interclip was 2.0s
Alrdy have it
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✅ valentin_1402 was banned.
New one huh?
Why the app says that the turret is armoured but in reality they pen you everywhere
No way that this monster can sidescreape the JG pz e 100 with heats and calibrated shells
blitzkit.app is better
4K in Jagdpather is only a class 2? I knew this tank is insane but not THAT much
I got 4k in kpz70 and I got M
But it was 1k6 base exp because I spotted quite a few. So I think it depends on the exp
Yes, mastery badges depend on base xp
against most tier 7 yes
Depends on the map and team. But on average it deals 2-2500 damage. If I get a good team,
can someone help me understand why so many 1st classes arent contributing to gun mark???? like wth i cant even pass 1% on so many tanks
Mfw you dont understand how ammunition works
guys what do you think of the st-62v2? i got it from a crate from luxury lounge and im not sure how to play. keep or sell
Which t10 Soviet medium is better the obj 140 or t62a
Anyone knows the changes of fv215b? Like how the new model is going to look like.
You like armor or you like shoot?
Honestly armor but id like a Soviet tank which doesn't have 1 trillion dispersion
Then 62a, it doesnt have good accuracy, but it has Stalin's Blessing
Hmm sure then
I'd first check if the t62a will become good after the rebalances in dec
@willow stone
Alrighty but tbh even without rebalance id prolly still play it i don't play seriously now that I know I will never be good ever again and my wr will never go above 51%
never felt that good on B1
I think this might be it: "Gun Mark XP is your Combat XP, excluding multipliers, team damage bonus, survival bonus, and victory bonus." The XP calculation for Masteries excludes multipliers and, afaik, includes those bonuses.
we have crate tags now yay


