vehicles-discussion

[crisp charm]

Is the FV 301 any good? I'm thinking of getting it

[fallen zodiac]

Yh it's good but are you down to being a passive player until the very end?

[alpine gulch]

cat

[errant pelican]

WHAT IS THE #1 TANK TO TECH TREE

[blissful cave]

KRANVAGN

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/502018843338604544/1186491724953043024/20210819_213724.gif

Why? It’s just my favorite : )

[slate oyster]

Meow meow meow meow meow

[fiery tulip]

T 62a cuz can

[opal tulip]

this pancake apparently has 5 degrees of gun dep

[safe acorn]

Well whaddya know
Russian vehicle has standard russian depression

[keen mantle]

It has crazy speed but he s bad

[violet timber]

It’s definitely not bad

[daring yew]

Guess what
Thunder has -10 gd

[safe acorn]

guess what ITS HYBRID
IT CAN BE ANYTHING IT WANTS AND ITS STUPID

[violet timber]

It’s Russian

[plush shadow]

Guys question
which tank is better overall, wz 113 or IS7

[fervent elm]

probably the 113

[plush shadow]

How good is 113s turret?

[fervent elm]

quite strong

[plush shadow]

Major cupola problems or are they manageable?

[fervent elm]

its alright. you can check on blitzkit

[plush shadow]

Alright, thank you very much

[hushed plover]

Anyone else think that the lion is just a leopard 2K?

[safe acorn]

Far from it

[wary summit]

OF-40 moment

[solid gate]

It looks like leopard 1 lend leased

[violet timber]

It was originally meant to be a topicalized Leopard 1

[plucky knot]

I need help, when I try to log in the game gives me a message that says error 418. I don't understand what I have to do to be able to enter later.

😔😔😔😔😔

[lyric oriole]

I've never seen anyone pull that number for an error, send a ticket into support

[plucky knot]

I don't know what's going on

[sharp raven]

Lion is OF-40 not Leopard 2K

[prisma basin]

Ban?

[plucky knot]

Cuaaaaaa

[keen abyss]

Is lower reload time better

[blissful cave]

Well obviously yea
Unless you’re talking about fast loading lower damage tanks vs longer reload higher damage tanks in that case it purely depends what tank it is and what you’re better with

[plucky knot]

I have a question, is anyone here on the European server in the game?

[strong goblet]

Good tank

[placid kernel]

E100 sucks

[ashen crown]

I mistook the Lion for the Leopard 2K at first cuz of the turret until I saw the hull
It’s the OF-40

[violet timber]

It’s just the Lion lol

The OF-40 is basically a rebuilt Lion using only Italian parts

[ruby basin]

which gun to use on tier 10 yoh

[brisk yoke]

3 shot if more aggressive, can clip twice with the consumable
2 shot if more passive and clip quicker and hide

My experience with 3 shot gun (not bot mm)

[alpine gulch]

Cat

[tropic shard]

Is this good I just rolled it from a free globe from the free giftbox

[robust orchid]

Been a while since I've been here

Anyway, have some documents about the Panther, Jagdpanther and Tiger II supposed to be given experimental ready rack/clips before the war ended

[safe acorn]

More like experimental autoloader
Because it is
Shares the same tech principle as drum mags for the French years later

Wait mb it's acting more like a round holder
So Germany somehow lost to the Japanese and Swedish for this one

Top engineers at the time:

Lost out to one country that never saw a tank's armor thicker than 150mm flat

Lost out to a country that wasn't even part of 90% of the conflict

[wheat cloud]

Maybe that would have been good on the panther but the tiger 2 would have been even more doomed with this system lmao

[safe acorn]

Panther would've been worse (even less crew space)

[wheat cloud]

Weight increase in a tank so heavy you can't use roads nor do cross country without detracking five times a day

[safe acorn]

That and the Panther is already overtaxed from using the Panzer IV transmission

[wheat cloud]

Valid

And the jag probably wouldn't have profited much because tds generally care less about reloading automatically

[safe acorn]

Nuh it wouldn't have profited solely because there's so less of em I don't think it matters

[wheat cloud]

yeah in all cases german armour was mega doomed

all those tank projects were ideologically driven sunk cost fallacies on tracks

[safe acorn]

Germany never saw the need or massive success with an autoloader (not until KF51 I think)

Ngl probably why I love the T-series

[wheat cloud]

T34 with godsend avtoloader

[safe acorn]

Uh no not that

[wheat cloud]

Trust me its for the rodina

[safe acorn]

I mean T-30 or smth got an assisted loader
But I'm talking about the current T-series

[wheat cloud]

Oh yeah. tho most of the loader system turned out to be a can opener

Ussr has a history of having revolutionary designs be bogged down in bureaucracy

[safe acorn]

Well obviously
I just enjoy em for god knows what
Either I just do astonishingly well in em in any game or the load time feels sync to how I play

Probably would enjoy the ZTZ-99A more since that has both sides of design into one

[solid gate]

Swedish stuff (Bofors) @blissful cave you may know some of them

[safe acorn]

Lul VEAK 40, AKV or BKAN 1C, Strv 103 probs the prototype since no heat fence or serrated plate

[blissful cave]

The very front of that ball turret thing looks kinda like the front of Tornvagns turret very close in shape

[solid gate]

Hm... Yeah lol

[ashen crown]

Woah Veak 40, what even is that gun turret in The middle

[solid gate]

I am wondering also, you can try to find about bofors production

[ashen crown]

Sure

[blissful cave]

Alright fellas I have used up all my gold and free xp and got to 5/10 snowglobes (free one unclaimed yet so need 4/10) do I break open the piggy bank I’ve been saving for MBT-B (a 50k profile background) and just buy gold when that comes out?

[blissful cave]

Lion acquired✌🏻 (end me)

[ashen crown]

You got the Leone, and it costed everything

[blissful cave]

I got WAY too lucky with XM66F and underestimated how bad these events actually are supposed to be to get the new tank

I got XM66F on like 10k net loss gold I got a bunch of snowglobes and compensation gold and not just XM but others too

Also the new system is an absolute scam used to be a flat fee of 1500 gold 10% drop per box now its “increase your chances” capping at 3000 gold per box for a 12% drop

Two 10% chances is WAY better than one 12% chance

[potent agate]

Lorraine 50 T any good?

Just got from the snow globe (i got that from the exp crate)

[blissful cave]

I got Lorraine 50t from a globe too but sacrificed it to the Lion before playing it I’d just rather play AMX 54 anyway

[potent agate]

Atleast not spendimg the 500k free exp for the E 100 was a good decision

[blissful cave]

I regret spending a good chunk of free xp on the luxury lounge it was useless just to get some Pudel and T26E5 certificates for gold

[potent agate]

If only i had the legendary free exp cert rn

I am only 3 epic Ones away from getting it
😭

[ivory heath]

Opinion on lion?

[blissful cave]

Only played like 5 matches before work and they weren’t very good games so don’t have a good feel for it yet

But I do like it a lot as a tank it looks really cool (it’s OF-40 italys copy of leopard for export and looks a lot like leopard 2 prototype

[violet timber]

It’s not OF-40, it’s literally just the Lion, it’s a real tank lol

[safe acorn]

Yeah Lion is equivalent to how BF-109s were modified for the North African campaign
Tropicalized Leopard

[blissful cave]

are OF-40 and Lion not the same?

Ohhh I see they’re not

[violet timber]

Im aware

@blissful cave No, the OF-40 is a rebuilt Lion using domestic Italian parts so that they could export it

[safe acorn]

Lion is just a Leopard modified for hot weather
OF-40 received a whole lot of new modifications and a new armor layout

Ngl I really love the Ariete
But since most of the composite is classified

Air

[violet timber]

And Leo 2 continues to be overrated and overhyped

[violet timber]

The Ariete just looks so good

[safe acorn]

It's an alright platform
Gets the job done
What you need can be fitted on so not much fuss

[blissful cave]

I was gonna say Lion is now the most modern tank in wot blitz because I thought Lion and OF-40 were the same because tank encyclopedia says designed 1978 (the old record) and built 1980
But since Lion is separate tank encyclopedia says 1975-77

Current record is Tornvagn and Char Futur
Tornvagns source says 1978
Char Futur is 1977

[safe acorn]

Ngl playing MTC-4 made me realize how annoying platform ATGMs are

That and hard kill APS also being annoying

[blissful cave]

But both are concept tanks
Vickers Mk 3 is 1974-75 and for only like a month was the most modern (actually built) tank in blitz but now it’s Lion 75-77

So their timeline rule is more like just specifically “no current gen MBT’s” mainly just specifically banning Abrams leopard 2 leclerc etc

[safe acorn]

Huh
I wonder what the Jet Fighter HMD is like for the Merkava 4 Barak

[vague juniper]

Is there any way to get sherman jumbo as of now?

[violet timber]

No

[blissful cave]

You’re waiting for it too?
It’s been one of my most wanted tanks ever since I started playing and it’s been completely unobtainable

[alpine gulch]

but it is good

[meager spindle]

imagine having an extremely limited ready rack, Abrams could never

[blissful cave]

When I was trying to get the Lion the second snow globe I opened had carro 45 (duplicate) and I got really excited for a second and then noticed it’s just carro

[wary summit]

Long ahh turret

[lean storm]

a little dumb here, i wanna ask what are these things at the back of tiger 1

[violet timber]

Just access ports

[lean storm]

huh whats it for

[ruby basin]

which prem/collectors do you guys consider must haves?
(asking ahead of auction)

[crisp charm]

very

did you delete a message?

get out

it's kinda self explanatory

[icy wadi]

I do not want to know what happened up here

[crisp charm]

I can see deleted messages 💀

[crisp charm]

bro deleted all his messages

[icy wadi]

no, he got banned

[crisp charm]

LMAO

peak.

[crude ivy]

I think the starter motor is at the bottom center

[crisp charm]

no he didn't, he's still here

[rustic heron]

for being able to repair the engine

[valid gale]

• is the only nato tank that can be readily supplied and filled in any buying countries roles

[steady ridge]

is T-100 LT worth grinding?
Since i got Object 84 and need like 100k exp so im wondering should i get it

[raw ember]

If you're skilled enough to use it

[steady ridge]

ill get it anyways

[verbal patio]

Should I be running more depression or mobility on the Type-71?

[edgy patrol]

Teir 8 Certificate vs Schwarzpanzer 58? Only have 2 of the teir 8's in the certificate.

[blissful cave]

So far we don’t know if these tanks will be obtainable outside of this so idk maybe the schwarzpanzer 58 will be exclusive to this

[frail cave]

I like funny tanks :D. Thats why im going for Grille 105 and im soo craving for some offers with T2 funny tanks. Like LD-40.

[blissful cave]

I have all the tier 8’s I want (except T95E2 which isn’t even in the certificate)
For me the certificate is either duplicates or tanks I don’t want so I’m just going with the new tank

[lean storm]

ohhh

[magic fjord]

what is the best heavy tank ?

[pulsar sparrow]

id go for the IS4 it has good armor especially after its buff, good reload and penetration and speed.

[storm girder]

Is super conqueror meta right now? I feel so different using that tank after a huge buff in my opinion

[hallow sedge]

definitely its my favorite t10 in this screwed up meta

[steady ridge]

Yeah, Playing with Object 84 is really fun since you bounce shells really easily and has insane mobility

[hallow sedge]

yea the t100 is that on steroids

[limpid wind]

Buff the Lion plssss

[steady ridge]

Time to grind money(im about to loose 200k)

[limpid wind]

So bassicly its to slow, it haves no armour and that 3.0sec is to long, verry fun it haves tung and 3 shots but why should u take a lion and not a free Murat? Its faster haves more armour and the reload for the second shell is also faster..Or take a progetto if u want a italian T10 with 3 bullets, also there its faster + troll armour... Conclusion Lion sucks on allot of things...

[hallow sedge]

to be fair its effective dpm is like 4k

[steady ridge]

should i sell object 84 to buy LT-100?

[violet timber]

Not sure where you got that number from but I’m 99% sure it’s wrong lol

[hallow sedge]

its posted dpm is 2800

but if you dont shoot the last shell and use tung my educated guess was around 4k

[violet timber]

With tungsten active, using just the first shell, it gets right around 3k dpm lol

[hallow sedge]

the 2nd shell has a faster reload

[violet timber]

Still only gets you 3.4k dpm, and that’s only when tungsten is active

[hallow sedge]

ok still thats great dpm

[violet timber]

It’s alright, but you need tungsten active to have it lmao

[hallow sedge]

LOL alright??? 3.4 is like obj 140 type

[violet timber]

M48 gets 3.3k base without needing to use any consumables…

[hallow sedge]

ur just mad that you spent 240usd on a tank thats mid😭

[violet timber]

Obj 140 is over 3.6k lmao, and I don’t have the Lion, I know it’s not good so I didn’t buy it

You don’t seem to understand that you need to activate a consumable on the lion for it to even be competitive in terms of dpm, and as soon as that consumable wears off it’s back to struggling

[hallow sedge]

its a mid tank thats what i understand

[limpid wind]

A very bad mid tank.... compare it with a kpz50t with tung

[hallow sedge]

i am glad its mid WG is already p2w with mle they dont need to ruin the meta anymore

[hallow sedge]

yea

[steady ridge]

only get 1.7mil

[hallow sedge]

still i would

[steady ridge]

aight

[limpid wind]

Snowglobe was known for a good slightly op tank and now i get a tank with less armour then a Murat, Lion looks like a Leopard 2A4 or some but doesnt have the same stats as it, it doesnt have armour, it doesnt have speed, only thing what is good is the damage

[steady ridge]

bought it

[hallow sedge]

its how a 240 dollar tank should exist

[steady ridge]

what provisions shall i get for LT-100?

[hallow sedge]

double food with fuel

[wary summit]

1A3 is the closest comparison

It does not look like a 2A4 at all 💀

[limpid wind]

I didnt pay 240 for it, i paid 120 for it

[steady ridge]

and that is?
i'm kinda bad in the game so i dont understand what are you trying to say

[violet timber]

I mean Lion is just a tropicalized Leopard 1

[limpid wind]

I dont have all the versions of a leopard 2A -> in my mind, i only know how a Leopards 2a6/7 and 8 looks like

[hallow sedge]

idk the names of the provisions😭

[steady ridge]

i can send a pic

well tank is pretty fast i was going 70km/h
and reload is fast i love it

[steady ridge]

i think this is the best setup for it

[hallow sedge]

switch the 2nd fuel to the milk can

[steady ridge]

2k credits fuel?

[hallow sedge]

yep

[steady ridge]

THE CAMO THIS TANK HAS IS INSANE
I WAS IN A BUSH LIFE 100METERS AWAY FROM OPPONENTS TANK and he didnt discover me

but teams always suck

[nocturne smelt]

That is the saddest platoon ever

[blissful cave]

I don’t remember who posted this but does anyone know who made this? I remember it was something somebody made as a made up tier X Finnish tech tree

[violet timber]

IS-42, 203mm gun, 15mm of turret armor

[plucky summit]

#vehicles-discussion message
Here is yourself finding out in the past. Oops wait this is the original post, not the one you replied in

Ima dig some more

[blissful cave]

Really? Thank u 🙏🏻

[hallow sedge]

LOL lil bro just got owned

3.3k dpm LOL

[violet timber]

That’s base…

It’s 3.6k equipped lol, maybe try playing the game and you’ll learn that tank stats change when you get provisions and equipment

[tulip steppe]

when comparing vehicles you shouldn't consider optional add ons though, it did take a small dpm nerf last rebalance though

[violet timber]

Then lions dpm also drops

[blissful cave]

OH MY GOD NO WAY
YEEEEEES

Mystery certificate

https://tenor.com/view/yes-happy-sponge-bob-squarepants-gif-12024010

[tulip steppe]

good score, not my favourite t8 med but its fun to play at least, if you keep cupola hidden as much as possible

[blissful cave]

I’ve wanted this tank for so long I’m so happy to finally get it

[tulip steppe]

probably my second behind rex for t8 american meds

[blissful cave]

T95 medium is a tank I’m very interested in irl I got E6 a looong time ago but never was able to get E2

I really like the T95E2,so much that i bought this really cool wood sculpture of it that I’ve shown here before

I haven’t gotten to see T95 medium irl tho,they didn’t seem to have one at fort benning when I went where they had all my other favorites like T30 and T95 (superheavy)

A t95 medium tank still exists somewhere but idk where

[tulip steppe]

are there many around

[blissful cave]

I think only one
Two if you count the hull that was converted into this concept 1B looking thing (T95 hull M60A2 prototype turret)

This looks to be at fort benning but in the area that you can’t go
They have few unique tanks there from what I know like the only M7,this thing and Panzer IV Hydrostat

Hehehe “real life concept 1B”

[tulip steppe]

how many crew members were intended to fit in that turret prototype ?

[blissful cave]

T95M60A2 test rig should be added to the game that’d be cool

Turret was originally its own tank MBT (MR) Compact turret
But the turret was later repurposed as M60A2

Known as “AAT-60” on wot pc
That’s my most wanted tank to be brought over not counting tech trees then it’s Strv 103
BT-42 will always be my most wanted tank but I don’t have much hope left

[tulip steppe]

it was tried on the chieftain i think

[blissful cave]

T95 or this one?
T95 turret chieftain is a real thing and that’s what tier 8 chieftain is

[tulip steppe]

ya but i think it was just the yanks asking the brits to try it out and see if could work

[blissful cave]

Me explaining Concept 1B to the UPS driver:
(real)

[placid panther]

is schwarpanzer any good?

[sharp raven]

I dont know... Will get it, will not play it ever

[wary summit]

A worse Pz58

[placid panther]

just opted for mytery cert

[robust orchid]

Pz. 58 but black and worse stats

[safe acorn]

Man I wished WG and Gaijin would treat March 1st as an important day

The date where the first semblance of the modern tank was patented (Motorgeshutz)

[icy wadi]

you know we can actually expect the bt42 in blitz especially considering that it got added to wot pc already

[brave yacht]

Dude that's really interesting topic. I love tanks and to read info about them. Cool you showed the irl Concept 1B! Looks weird tho

[safe acorn]

Ngl I can't decide between Air combat or Tank combat
Being good at both, I'm torn between which is more interesting

Idk planes and tanks feel too interesting but if I had a definite choice I wouldn't know

[icy wadi]

tank combat for life

[robust orchid]

Artstorm and Gaijin have something like that iykyk

[safe acorn]

Uh no I ain't talking about games
Like IRL

[robust orchid]

Oh...then it's definitely Air Combat for me, Armored Combat sounds nice, but nothing beats going beyond the speed of sound dropping warheads on foreheads while blaring "Kickstart my Heart"

[safe acorn]

And then ofc getting shot down over some dumb S-400 battalion or not at all

Air to Air combat has always been a favourite of mine

Feels like a fencing tournament

[robust orchid]

A long range fencing tournament with like a dozen or so bystanders waiting to pop out with SAMs

[safe acorn]

Doesn't need to be long range
(Because a good fight is sometimes close)

[robust orchid]

Virgin BVR fans vs Average basepilled dogfight enjoyers

[safe acorn]

I think BVR is also kinda fun since it's just Simon says with your AWACS but man dogfights are always butt clenching

[blissful cave]

Wargaming try not to make absolutely useless shop offers in the tank section challenge (impossible)

They put AMX M4 49 at the same time same cost
And I remember that Keiler was put in there WHILE an event where you can earn Keiler for free was going on

Even in the luxury lounge if you only used gold it still came out cheaper than the direct offer but even cheaper than that if not free by putting in other resources

[magic fjord]

move gravedigger to tier 8 or i will file a law suit on war gaming my laweyer is harvey specter so you better remove it

[violet timber]

No

[hallow sedge]

ok buddy

[violet timber]

Not my fault you were wrong 🤷‍♂️

[hallow sedge]

your right i was wrong i said the obj 140 had 3.4k dpm and you said it had 3.6k but in reality it has 3.3k

[violet timber]

It has 3.6k equipped lmao

If you want to use stock numbers, then the Lion’s dpm drops as well.

[hallow sedge]

dude no it dosent ive been useing stock numbers from the begining when i said it had 2.8k posted but if you dont use the last shell it has well over 3k

[violet timber]

You said it got over 4k lmao

[violet timber]

This isn’t a stock number you got here buddy, let’s not try to lie now

[hallow sedge]

ok i said i was guessing

[violet timber]

Completely stock, just using tungsten, it gets 3.2k, so still less than the 140. Any way you cut it, you’re wrong.

[hallow sedge]

lil bros trying to bash me over something i already agreed was wrong LOL

[violet timber]

Except you’re still trying to defend it. Stop the character assassination, it’s not a good look

[median oasis]

Goofy discourse

[hallow sedge]

hey guess what your wrong LOL🤓 3.6KKKK

[violet timber]

That’s effective 60s dpm, which uses the first shell. Just firing the second shell, like I said, gets you 3,384, which is what blitzkit says lmao. So no, I’m not wrong.

Keep digging yourself a deeper hole, it’s quite honestly funny

[hallow sedge]

so then whats this lil bro

[violet timber]

Just firing the second shell…

Saying lil bro over and over again doesn’t suddenly make your right either btw, it just makes you look dumb

[hallow sedge]

ok i said effective dpm at the beginning of this whole convo

another day another day fighting with 40%ers lol

[violet timber]

Ah yes, I’m the 40%er despite having been right the entire time. Moving the goal post doesn’t make you right lil bro, it just proves yourself wrong.

That pro wannabe is gonna stay in your profile indefinitely methinks, seeing as you don’t understand basic game mechanics.

[hallow sedge]

you know it

Pro Wanna be for life buddy

[plush shadow]

Guys is project Murat good?

[hallow sedge]

its mid

[plush shadow]

thanks for the answer

[tepid axle]

thing tank any good?

[median oasis]

Type 62 is the t7 goat

[median oasis]

High skill level pretty good tank.

[raw ember]

@rancid fog 263 got ap in the last rebalance

[rancid fog]

Makes sense then, it helps i guess. In that case it sucks a little less

[plush shadow]

guys whats an easy t10 heavy tank that is still pretty good? I kinda suck in heavies and wanna learn how to play them

[raw ember]

Kranvagn

[rancid fog]

Autoloader or single shot? I would go with kranvagn as general answer at the moment

[plush shadow]

both work for me tbh
And is Kran rlly that good? like its turret is awesome but isn't its hull kinda paper?

but ig playing around the weakpoints of your tank is crucial in heavies so that would help me learn, guess that makes sense

[rancid fog]

You have turret, gun depression, autoREloader and good consumables. Hull armor isnt good, turret armor is amazing. General purpose heavies with more traditional armor and single shot, i guess e5 and vk72.

[plush shadow]

alright, thank you very much for the answer

[rancid fog]

Vz55 and rinoceronte are great 2 shot auto(re)loaders, type 71 is really good combination of premium ammo and armor. Yoh i would say before last rebalance, i feel its not OP anymore. Vz55 is miserable line to grind, be warned.

[plush shadow]

how much of the line of the vz55 is trash? like all the way to T10 or with exceptions?

[rare elk]

Agreed.

[valid gale]

He’s wrong it’s incredibly good

[violet timber]

It’s good

[blissful cave]

Me explaining to the UPS driver that the Abrams you see in movies are usually actually Chieftains
(Real)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502022366491312138/1313702247875608688/image0.jpg?ex=6751c0cf&is=67506f4f&hm=9e9ce0ed63dbb2509b424735a5d51c1ac2ecfdeae54c17879bab46a0738537b5&

[zenith shadow]

makes sense. like the MK6 chieftans?

[blissful cave]

Stuff like this one I noticed in the sonic movie those tracks won’t fool me

Looked it up and Chieftain Abrams are a common thing in multiple movies
Idk why they do it are they not allowed to use Abrams because they’re the US’s current service tank or is it just cheaper to use Chieftains disguised as Abrams

[ashen crown]

Those tracks are defined Chieftain ones

[safe acorn]

Yeah
They always do this
They won't bring an Abrams out because they ain't Michael Bay

[safe acorn]

Dude it's a movie prop just let the directors do their thing

I still think it's nice Godzilla Minus One nailed the alternate history piece without it being too obnoxious

Chi-To makes sense somewhat to appear in Minus One's case since some of them were 50% to a 100% complete

I assume America allowed some leniency to Japanese rearmament so that Japan at least had an armored battalion with scraps

[wary summit]

Died 1945 born 1958

Welcome back Cromwell RP-3

[ashen crown]

Reminds me of the AMX-13 SS11 more

The missiles on that 74 there are the SS.11s right?

[wary summit]

Yep

[robust orchid]

Tier VI and VII are miserable, tier VIII is also miserable but becomes fun once you get the Upgrade gun and turret

Tier IX is miserable

[violet timber]

Most of the line is alright tbh

[plush shadow]

Also question, what do u guys think of chrysler?

[fierce estuary]

Good lord who's idea is this

[glad sundial]

Hi 👋

[plucky summit]

T3 Convert, Matilda LVT, and M4-85 are malding

[mental forge]

Rate 0-10

[safe acorn]

Russians apparently

[blissful cave]

It’s fake tho right?
Looks like something they’d totally do tho

[ashen crown]

An M4's hull seems imcompatible with what looks like an 85mm gun

[wary summit]

Some claimed it was a proposal since they wanted to keep the valuable T-34 chassis free so cannibalizing the Sherman was sorta the plan

But the Shermans were pretty low on numbers and the Guards Battalions would probably be pissed

Yikes

[ashen crown]

Guess it was sorta a proposal

[safe acorn]

I mean tbf they could've just made the turret of the Sherman an open top and then fit the 85mm inside

Wait a minute

[wary summit]

Congrats you made WG think of a fake kitbash for a Yugoslavian Jackson with an 85mm gun

[safe acorn]

Wouldn't hurt to give even the Yugoslavs a future idea

[blissful cave]

We need more nations added that’d be so cool
They have EU but do nothing with it

Neither do they do anything with the idea of subcategories like Canada and Australia are

They could do some really cool stuff with that
Like imagine if they made random one off premiums for EU like the Norwegian 90mm Chaffee TD

[blissful cave]

Main thing I want tho is Finnish tanks

[safe acorn]

I wished they stopped adding more things to EU

[blissful cave]

I wish they stopped adding unnecessary things to EU

You added the real Italian and czech tanks already now add the real Swedish tanks instead of a bunch of zero basis fakes

[safe acorn]

No like in general leave EU alone atm
It has become as big as the German tech tree in a span of a few updates and not even Japan (literally an OG) has a big tech tree

[blissful cave]

Japan is forgotten lmao they don’t even get premiums

[safe acorn]

We literally just got Ka-Ri and Type 57

[blissful cave]

And that’s basically it (GuP doesn’t count as Japanese tanks)

[safe acorn]

Mmm..
Maybe WoTB isn't really the best way to enjoy tanks (like I enjoy em at all now)

[blissful cave]

I want komatsu 105gsr that ones a real tank even

You wanna know what I want so bad tho? Type 5 heavy that thing looks so cool

[fervent elm]

I want the Heavy Tank No. 6

[blissful cave]

Yeah that would be cool too people would be like “ugh reskin tank” but I think it’d be a cool historic thing to have

[safe acorn]

I want to have fun

[violet timber]

WoTB is great once you accept that it’s an arcade game

[safe acorn]

Feels like walking in circles with this game
And I haven't played it even through this Christmas event

[violet timber]

Personally I’ve gotten too used to wt and too burned out of WoTB to play WoTB for any extended period of time anymore

[safe acorn]

I am solely yearning for WT's air combat again
Even though it's a hot mess late game, I yearn for it more than tank combat now

[blissful cave]

Yeah I’m starting to be more okay with fake tanks there’s a few I like now
I still would rather they add real ones first and then make those once they are running low on options

[violet timber]

I’m so excited for Eurofighter and Britain finally getting a domestic jet that’s competitive at top tier

[safe acorn]

Just can't wait for J-10B

Wait actually
That would mean next update is all PESA oriented

[violet timber]

I also hope that Russia gets a different top tier premium jet than the MiG-23 because I want to grind it out, but I really don’t want to play the 23

[safe acorn]

I'm here stuck with J-7D
It's fun but holy cow I'm not geared to grind 4 more Rank VI aircraft with one type of plane alone

The burnout is real

[violet timber]

I got F-4S which was an absolute mistake, I hate it so much

So I’m just grinding American air with the Iranian F-14

[safe acorn]

F-4S is painful at first but
I'm or was starting to get a hang of the sparrows

[violet timber]

I just find my radar constantly losing targets while it seems like enemy F-4S’s can radar lock through 180 countermeasures and their Aim-7s can turn for 50gs. Probably a skill issue in my part but I find the Tornado F.3 way more consistent

[safe acorn]

You sure you're locking on with PD HMS?
That and well chaff don't do anything at all to PD if the enemy has it on

I find sparrows better when they're launched from a top down angle
Or when in a level altitude, nose up against the enemy

[violet timber]

Yeah I’m getting pd but it’s just losing lock constantly

[safe acorn]

If the enemy moves sideways or away from you
Or you're both going the same speed
It ain't gonna lock

[violet timber]

Like I said, probably a skill issue, but I refuse to touch the F-4S any time soon so I’ll just stay bad at it

[violet timber]

Yeah I got pd and tws switching down on the tornado, but it doesn’t seem to translate well to the F-4 🤷‍♂️

[safe acorn]

The 4S doesn't got TWS so it won't lock as well as the Tornado
That and the 4S don't got the best lock range for where it's at

Besides what kills you most of the time is not knowing what's locking on because idk RWR set sucks

Anyways back to tanks
If my new laptop is strong enough then I'll save up for Dark Souls 3 and Gunner Heat PC

Also yeah MTC-4 has also been satiating my tank combat urges

For a dumb Roblox game, it's trying to have more realistic controls than WT

[blissful cave]

I can’t be normal about anything I swear

[safe acorn]

I wonder, how much new stuff about tanks and whatnot can develop irl to sustain interest into the topic
Because ngl I'm starting to feel that I've reached some sort of ceiling of what I know

But then again I'm afraid of leaving the topic of tanks and Armored warfare entirely just to let it cook for a couple of years/decades

Might actually forget about it

[zenith shadow]

💯

[tepid lily]

Is this even real

[violet timber]

It’s questionable at best

[tepid lily]

I was looking for more proof of this things existence and found nothing about it

[violet timber]

It may have been an idea at one point, but that’s as far as it would’ve gotten if anyone even had the idea

[tepid lily]

Even information on the SU-76i and the SU-85i is incredibly scarce

[wary summit]

I pray to god it's fake

[tepid lily]

The image makes it look like it’s one of those stupid napkin tanks

[wary summit]

Poopenfarten 1000 Ratte moment

[violet timber]

I gues in theory you could put an 85 in the Sherman hull, but I don’t see why the Soviets would tbh

[tepid lily]

Napkin tank for those who don’t quite understand: Engineer goes on lunch break, scribbles on a napkin about something he thought of, then the napkin is stored away until Wargaming goes archive diving and digs it back up after all those years of being “lost”.

[violet timber]

Doing it to German tanks makes sense as they didn’t have a consistent supply of German shells, but they had more than enough shells for the Sherman’s

[atomic copper]

nah

your aunt could have balls , b ut she would be your uncle

[storm thicket]

Would it be possible to add the M42 duster or M19 (dual 40 mm go brr) everything that it would need to be added is pretty much in the game even the hull is there with the type 64

[violet timber]

Possible but not probable

[meager spindle]

mach 2 hubble telescope fakour gameplay is peak

[violet timber]

Enemy 40km away? Enemy lower than you? Easy kill.

[meager spindle]

they try and multipath your missile? it hits ground and explosive is still enough to bring them down.

although personally i prefer the aim-7's and going close range in the tomcats, it's flight performance is pretty goofy and it can catch some people off guard

god forbid i face an f15/16 though

[violet timber]

Fakours miss? You get insta-kill R-27s for backup

[solid gate]

how to play wit standard b

[safe acorn]

Still I find it funny J-7D is now 10.7

[violet timber]

💀

[safe acorn]

Average Mirage 3 user when they get sent a PL-5B

[warped ridge]

Soooooo is wg trying to tell us something?

[sullen abyss]

Bro just noticed the tank lol

It’s the one for the next event in a paid pass

[warped ridge]

indeed i did, is that like a modern tank?

[violet timber]

No, it’s made up

[safe acorn]

Ngl I wonder who thought Gaijin is ready for F-22 back during the F-117A update leak

[sullen abyss]

It is a made up tank for the deadmau5 collab

[warped ridge]

Ngl every time I look at it, it reminds me of a Abrams tank.

[ashen crown]

You’re not wrong

[warped ridge]

Does that mean they will add modern made up ones? Bc ik after playing with it players will want WG to add a tank similar to a leopard or a t72

[wary summit]

They could bastardize some proto T-64/T-72 Ural to fit in the game, but probably not the Leo 2

[warped ridge]

I want a tank like OF 40 wich in the game is named Lion idk why

[ashen crown]

The Leone is basically the predecessor of the OF-40

[icy wadi]

no

[ashen crown]

So far we only got mid-cold war vehicles

[warped ridge]

There's a lot of cold war vehicles to be added but instead they add this made up tanks

[safe acorn]

Well some
Are

A bit much
They're also pretty lazy and most of em are better off stand alone (which if you think about it, sucks)

[warped ridge]

Not only that, HD tanks too, some tanks that are in HD still need some more work especially on the suspension wheels for the example in the t30 and some others too.

[empty plinth]

T30 is the worst looking PBR model in the game imo

[languid panther]

Can rate this tank?

[amber robin]

7/10

[languid panther]

That s the tank i get in the snow globe🥲

[daring yew]

6

[zinc sparrow]

stb-1 too, look at this in wot pc and compare

[wary summit]

5/10

Wished it had a clip and not APCR standard

[median oasis]

9/10 t9 leo

[golden brook]

should i sell my XM66F to buy 11 MT containers? (I got it for free and I'm not really playing it much as I am into lights and meds)

[blissful cave]

You know what’d be pretty neat? If Lion got sand force as a mechanic
Irl the Lion is just a Leopard 1 designed for desert use so imagine if it had the ability that gives it a slight mobility buff on desert maps,it’s already a not very mobile medium compared to others

[little plume]

Hi everyone 🤠👋

[blissful cave]

Emergency shell doesn’t really count as a mechanic it’s just a type of autoloader basically

[warped ridge]

Somehow I like it a lot, and the standard B

[summer blaze]

i have a question why i dont see all my prem and colector tanks in the restore page ? i see them on account what i had and sold but some of them are not in restore

[wary summit]

Don't

Those crates are rather trash

[golden brook]

already did and I am regretting my choice but anyways

[zenith shadow]

goofy ah tank that i just got

[plucky summit]

Depends whether you sold them before the in-game restoration was implemented or not. Older sales have to be rebought from WG support

[blissful cave]

I didn’t know this was a thing I looked it up I love kinda stupid looking old US tanks like T2 medium and M2 medium

[zenith shadow]

Looks like the soviet light tank

[blissful cave]

Makes sense,I think it still during the part where Christie suspension was originally supposed to be made for the US but then later accepted by the Soviets as BT’s

[zenith shadow]

boi what the heck kind of a gun is that

[violet timber]

Howitzer for infantry support and assaulting fortified positions

[zenith shadow]

o it does alot of dmg

[cold depot]

Which german superheavy should i aim to get and which lines surrounding them would be good to also get?

[fervent elm]

The Pz IV G on wotb used to have it too. But 5.5 happened

[violet timber]

Now we have gargoyle

[fervent elm]

Fr. I have 300 battles on the Pz IV G solely because of that gun

[zenith shadow]

On war thunder PZ4s are amazing

Op gun but paper armor

[fervent elm]

Nice
Is that Lesta?

[safe acorn]

Wym paper
I got some really good bounces with it

[sharp raven]

Its not Lesta they have different Font (overall more chunky numbers/letters)

[finite gull]

So apparently the AMX 13 57 is a real tank, with the full name being

Char AMX-13 avec Canon 57 L/100

With some pics of the the tank prototype floating around the internet

[valid gale]

Which is not really a surprise

[latent kelp]

i need the old 155m sound

[golden brook]

what's the better gun for the BC 25 t?

[thorn folio]

Quite honestly one of my least favorite tanks in the game

[thorn folio]

100mm without a doubt, AP standard, slightly higher base pen, higher HE pen, better turret traverse dispersion, baits people into thinking you only have 3 shells because theyre used to 3 shot BC

Plus the intraclip times are similar enough to where it's neglible that you have four shells vs 3 anyways, 5.6 vs 6.66

[robust orchid]

Is the Super Pershing worth keeping? It's really slow for a Medium, even a Heavium and its armor is lackluster compared to back then, not to mention the gun is lackluster in performance as well

[ashen crown]

It is quite a funny vehicle for hulldown
If you wiggle then you’ll be impervious to most shots hull-down

[brave yacht]

Hey guys. What do you think about A46 Different tank?

[ashen crown]

Idk, looks like a heavily-graffitied Harry Hopkins

[brave yacht]

It's really fun in burning games. Pew pew with HESH makes it unstoppable lol

[daring yew]

It's our gargoyle in blitz

[blissful cave]

I love M6A2E1

[lunar valve]

does anyone know if theres a new tech tree coming soon?

[blissful cave]

A tier 9 and 10 to finish off RU-251 for Germany coming soon
Rheinmetallpanzerwagen

Because currently the light tank line ends at tier 8 and just merges into leopard

[queen thorn]

This is wargaming

[queen thorn]

Well done too

[fleet ember]

Спасибо Евгений

[queen thorn]

Не за что

[fleet ember]

Кинь до может когда-то сыграем

[queen thorn]

Моя Первая платиновая лига за последние 10 лет

[queen thorn]

Да на лесте я тоже есть

[river kernel]

i Still wonder why the trubo tank use tank track instead of the big wheels

i cant even use the wheels when the tracks were destroyed

[wary summit]

Probably for cushioning, just like the wheels on the Lorr. 40t/50t

[lusty orbit]

idk how 💀 💀 just 0.5% and got it for 150 of gold by a mistery box lvl 2

[ruby basin]

t49: which gun is better?
is it like kv2 where small gun is better but big gun is the point of the tank?

[violet timber]

The 152 is better

[blissful cave]

Yea basically just like that the big gun is the point of the tank

[violet timber]

The big gun is the point of the tank but it’s also the best gun on the tank

[blissful cave]

Yeah any T49 with a small gun I assume is stock

[gusty olive]

No, smol gun is just shjt, big gun is derpyderp smacker + American HESH

[terse swift]

Pick pencil gun if you want to reliably do damage

[safe acorn]

technically no
Fun probably
But actually helping in grinding experience, no

[violet timber]

Technically yes, the 90mms on the T49 are just terrible to play with, the 152 gives you less exposure and allows you to impact games way more

[wary summit]

(Both guns are horrible)

[cosmic fossil]

Pls make this a vehicle

And this a camo

[dull epoch]

doing the centurion tree, do you suggest i get the hesh gun first or the regular one for comet?

[cosmic fossil]

Hesh?

[icy wadi]

no thanks

[dull epoch]

the top gun in question
200 alpha one for gold rounds
asking because it is worse off by raw dpm but with enough cash can punish any and all medium-light tanks

[solid gate]

good tank?

[blissful cave]

You know what I’m gonna see how far I get with the emote quest only by
Duck/thumbs down reacting people who did under 1k damage in tier 10 but only in the scenario that I’m top damage and we still lost (aka they deserve it)

Idc about deadmaus so if I don’t get the avatar I don’t mind at all just gonna run a little experiment here,this morning I started with 0/55 on the progress bar I didn’t react anything this whole time of the mission

Can’t stand those matches where I do over 4K damage and over half the team did absolutely nothing or barely anything

[violet timber]

Don’t use the HESH gun on comet, it’s quite bad tbh, but using it on Cent 1 and 7 is fine

[dull epoch]

Gotcha, thanks for heads up

[blissful cave]

I need this now

[fallen zodiac]

Give the fcm 50t this camo option

[blissful cave]

AMX M4 49 has that one

[gaunt mountain]

that has to be yukari irl

[blissful cave]

I need someone just as autistic as me fr

[safe acorn]

I just saw this

[blissful cave]

Lmao guys I had this funny idea a while ago and I think it’d be pretty doable

Making an irl wotb snow globe (id probably do XM66F my first snowglobe released tank)
Get a 1/72 3D printed model of it (that exists) and however you make a snowglobe I bet there’s some kids craft kit for it and wouldn’t be too hard

[ashen crown]

Great idea

[fervent elm]

she's a keeper

[true siren]

Is project murat line worth it ?

[peak elk]

S

[fervent elm]

yeah its a fun line

[safe acorn]

Lul rewatching Batman V Superman
The Batmobile somehow has flares and Batman uses it against AT weapons like the Javelin

Why didn't Batman install hard/soft kill APS? Is he stupid?

The Man would never do such mistakes

[plucky summit]

What’s that again? I don’t know exactly what the hard/soft kill APS means

[safe acorn]

Hard kill = drozd, arena-m, iron fist
Soft kill = shtora, dazzler etc

[ashen crown]

Hard kill blasts missiles while soft kill just befuddles missiles?

[safe acorn]

In the simplest terms
Yes

[ashen crown]

Thanks

[nocturne smelt]

If only

[blissful cave]

I want someone to go look at M47 Partons with

I wish they’d adjust the tier 9 to actually be M47 Patton having the M47 hull instead of being M46 with the M47 turret

[safe acorn]

I mean it did exist so I'm not complaining

[solid gate]

100k!?

[blissful cave]

Yeah💀
Probably to make up for the fact there’s no turret module it’s just one module away from tier 10

[solid gate]

but still aint, no way a gun has an xp like you researching a tier 8 tank 😭

i mean the stock gun is atleast good right?

[blissful cave]

I free XP’d the gun but played until Murat

[river kernel]

bro whats the difference between m3 light and the m2 light ????

[solid gate]

i wish this tank has more shells.

[unborn heron]

Wargaming had various tanks under their respective country’s flags available at a drop rate of nearly 5%. Now they’re flashing Soviet containers for sale, but if you check, the tanks have less than 0.5% drop chance.

[wary summit]

The difference is pretty non-visual

Thicker armour
Modified suspension
Improved gun handling

[somber hawk]

pbr

[neon copper]

different names

[blissful cave]

Heh lmao while gambling for the Lion I sold my WZ-114 and then I’m like I kinda like this tank but eh I guess I have to
Just got 114 back from a mystery certificate from only a 1500 gold mystery box pack so uh welcome back : )

[valid gale]

Hard kill = intercepting projectile
Soft kill= Electronic countermeasures

[wheat cloud]

Soft kill = a small breeze on the tiger's electronic optic system

Hard kill : the tiger 2 drives on a roadway

[strange yoke]

Did they buff this tank?

[pallid kettle]

A tank drops for 5000 gold in the event sphere and lets you sell it for 3750 gold, what a scam !!!

[plucky summit]

The 5000 gold is compensation for those who already owned the vehicle, no?

[blissful cave]

Why does the game do this to me
Every time I play the Lion it’s like
yes,make him lose like the games will always end up as sweeps where the other team goes plows through my team 0-7
But in any other tank it’s perfectly fine🙃

[safe acorn]

Would like to get the Lion but man
Wouldn't beat the prog experience

[blissful cave]

Despite that tho i actually took out droodles while playing the Lion in a match yesterday pretty proud of that achievement

[blissful cave]

every time absolutely unbalanced sweep
stop doing that it makes my wr look bad,especially in Lion

[blissful cave]

Probably would’ve completed the mission if I actually remembered to do this

[safe acorn]

Is the Challenger the only one who haven't experimented with an autoloader

[blissful cave]

Idk,don’t know much about current day MBT’s

Are there even any British autoloader tanks in game now that I think about it?
Only one I can think of is FV4005’s compromised gun which isn’t what it should have

[violet timber]

AT-7

[blissful cave]

Oh wait GSOR too

Cobra technically yes and no
Autoloader tank,single shot tho

[safe acorn]

Mmm technically Challenger did if I count the Falcon turret upgrade

[blissful cave]

Ohhh I love Tornvagn shaped tanks I love that thing

[blissful cave]

There’s no way this isn’t on purpose I cannot exaggerate it’s almost every time I play this tank it’s a terrible team unbalanced sweep game

[safe acorn]

Found the Falcon 1 on a centurion hull

[blissful cave]

I can only blame myself to a certain extent and then it’s just sure I could’ve done better that game but even then it wouldn’t matter at all when it’s 0-7? 4K+ damage everyone else is still sub 1k

[safe acorn]

It's WoTB
Event season
All the Dumbo's come out

[blissful cave]

Oh right makes sense,event based on wins=zero skill comes out to play

“Hmm maybe if I yolo do a bit of damage go back to garage start a battle in a new tank ill surely rack up a few,the other guys might take it from there”

https://tenor.com/view/mobile-mobile-ads-ads-beat-game-gif-16155291

[safe acorn]

It's always either this game or the other
Makes it Hella boring and reasons why I want to play ground war + tank games rather than tank games on its own

I've made a place for myself in a type of game where my friends now call me up for heavy armor support

[blissful cave]

So called free thinkers

Bro what’s going on why can’t I ever be on the 7 side it’s always the zero and I’m literally not exaggerating I’m gonna go through this game session rn and give the ratio of games that were 0-7,I’m trying my best here I really am :/

[blissful cave]

It’s over half,over half were 0-7 sweeps,the rest maybe 2-7 still not even close like what can I even do at that point :/ it’s not even my fault I’m top damage in nearly all of these
And only one Lion game of those was a win

[safe acorn]

WoTB event season
It never changes

[patent nova]

What should i expect as I grind Progetto 65 line

[safe acorn]

Solid gun performance and decent mobility

[sullen abyss]

Where are the Tiger II glazers

This yo king tiger? This armor profile? 🗑️

I was playing a TD but even then I could pen the stupid tank in a heavy frontally at this angle if I loaded prem ammo

If it was hull down…well look at the turret, it’s a joke even when actually facing you

People actually think this thing is the best tech tree tier 8 heavy

[tulip steppe]

which tank were you in?

[sullen abyss]

SU-130PM, a td with above average tank pen

If it was a T32 or 53TP I’d at least have to aim at the hull

The tiger 2? Lmao

[tulip steppe]

are you saying tiger 2 is weak? can't tell what is showing red (colourblind)

[sullen abyss]

I wouldn’t say weak but I know I’ve seen people call Tiger II the best tier 8 tech tree heavy here, I was teasing them with the “heavy” armor on the Tiger II

[tulip steppe]

the front armour used to hold up when hull down before cali bonus, but ya its hard to angle the turret when hull down

[sullen abyss]

Don’t get me wrong it can be a bully against meds and lights but even against something common you’ll face like Def MK I or chimera they won’t have that much of a problem penning you with prem ammo

[wheat cloud]

I thought it was weak because of playing against it

Then i played it and realized i significantly overestimated other players' ability to deal with it. it works super well in randoms

[onyx thicket]

Can anyone advise on how to play the fv4202 properly?

[tulip steppe]

use its -10 gun depression on ridges and get familiar with its hesh so your dpm is bumped to top of t10 mediums list, you're trying to shoot the side of enemies that are focused on other teammates

[onyx thicket]

So should i use in the frontline or stay passive?

[tulip steppe]

you should always be keeping a ridge or mound between you and an enemy because its not a good trading medium or brawling one, most vehicles will pen you if you're on flat ground showing too much tank

[onyx thicket]

Alright alright, thank you man

Oh and last question, is the 132-1 worth grinding?

[tulip steppe]

👍 the 105 with heat prammo is a good gun if someone doesn't like hesh, i haven't played 132-1 after rebalance so i don't have an opinion yet

[onyx thicket]

Alright man, Thanks a lot

[sullen abyss]

That’s cause the average player is trash. But the moment they have even more than 3 braincells, the Tiger II falls apart whereas others would be able to hold on longer

[onyx thicket]

Is the 105 royal ordance in the fv4202 bad?

[fervent elm]

which L7 gun? HEAT or HESH?

[onyx thicket]

Heat

[fervent elm]

people run the HESH gun cos its the only high pen HE at tier 10. its special for that.

[onyx thicket]

Okay okay, thanks

[safe acorn]

Man I missed the old fresh out of the oven Tiger II
Easiest tank I've played

[solid gate]

this is difficult, I can't play it very stock.

[safe acorn]

Should've saved the free exp

[wary summit]

101k xp gun lol

https://tenor.com/view/frog-frog-laughing-gif-25708743

[ashen crown]

TD's can pen it but if you're the average Medium or Light tank then you just gotta flank it and play ring-around-the-rosie

[safe acorn]

Especially stuff like 130PM and ISU-152

[mild zephyr]

Hello everyone, does anyone know why the bz75 is not the same on European servers and Russian servers?

[violet timber]

Different dev team for lesta

[sweet mural]

hey guys, what's the general consensus on the best gun for e100 right now? is it the small one?

[deep belfry]

Yea

The 12.8cm is superior to the 15cm in almost all its characteristics, except alpha and penetration

[normal forge]

Yes.

[deep belfry]

It's like the opposite philosophy you would use on the KV-2 or T49, the small gun is better

[summer blaze]

WG whut da hell is this e 50 man u put too much evasion on it and somehow turns into ghost when should hit and projectile go thru him i might be bad at game but i know how kran works and most of the hits should f hit ohh forgot hes flamethrower to 2 hit in a row he f flame me WG GIVE ME MORE SLOT FOR CONSUMABLES CUZ 3 IS NOT ENOUGH THIS E 50 ONES GO HIT AFTER HIT FLAME

[sweet mural]

Oh i see, thanks

[icy wadi]

💀

[solid gate]

bro got mad

[tough swift]

am i a madman but i played emil 1 stock

[hasty ridge]

Normal

[golden arch]

Bro is so mad its even hard to understand what he is saying

[violet timber]

Ok

[valid gale]

Got lucky for the worst T10 medium

[humble jungle]

Nah, its tremendously good, whoever says its the worst don't know how to play it

[valid gale]

-52 kmh max speed

• substandard gun handling
• unimpressive penetration
• leopard armor

Even CS-63 is better

[humble jungle]

Then you must be pretty confident to fight against it, perhaps a 1v1 tomorrow?

[valid gale]

1v1s don’t prove anything
Also you don’t have full crew skills so why are you speaking as if it’s superior to everything else in an incomplete state?

[humble jungle]

Never said that, I said its good and 1v1 would prove something

For a statement that the tank is trash coming from you, then it must be pretty easy to beat in equal terms, right?

[remote kindle]

A fight is so meaningless, doesn't prove any point has their is so much factors and scenarios that doesnt really show how a tank will perform in most scenarios.

[meager spindle]

wow harapal your still alive?

[meager spindle]

thats why 1v7's are best

[remote kindle]

As far as i am aware. Been months i was away, maybe a year.

[valid gale]

“Kv2 is awesome because it can kill tanks in one shot”
-eaten alive by tier 7s and anything it misses

[remote kindle]

From my view, best experience the tank in atleast 10-20 battles and see how it performs. Then take a similar tank and see the difference.

I did that with the tiger 1, the tiger p, and vk45 to see which i prefered and found better. Vk was my choice due to it performing better.

[meager spindle]

similar idea to how i do my tanks career battles, i usually get to around 50-60 (if newly obtained) before talking about them

[remote kindle]

Similar happened to me, maybe skill issue but i found anilathor to be quite not what i expected. Everyone gloryfies it but i find it average at best.

[remote kindle]

Good idea, then again with my ani i have not done many battle, but i have seen it not being a super performer.

[valid gale]

It got power creeped naturally

Annihilator was almost as bad As smasher when it first released because it had super speed boost making it uncircable

[river quartz]

dissing cs 63 hard

[verbal patio]

How to play Type 71 effectively.

[lean tinsel]

even the T62A.... XD

and I don't like T62A 😂😂😂
I have Lion bcs I thought it was good, and it's not.... Now, just wait for a buff

[violet timber]

T-62A is pretty good

[lean tinsel]

I prefer E50M for example. T62A is good but I don't play so well with soviet tanks usually...

[violet timber]

Oh wow, you prefer the best overall med right now, who would’ve thought

[lean tinsel]

jjaajjahahahah XD

But I always preferred the E50M, even 3 years ago, when I started playing more seriously...

[idle axle]

guys honestly how is the 215b. I am playing conq rn and its a great tank i love it, aced it 3 times today. But i feel going against t8, that hes absolutely wrecks. I dont feel nearly as potent going against t10s, that hesh can barely pen some side armor since most t10 has some skirt or thick tracks. I feel as a tier 9 conq the gun is pretty good, but i just cant see that gun being nearly as good as a tier 10 tank, plus you dont even get much dpm. How is 215b better than a 9001? or a t95e6

[wary summit]

8.5k gold for the T95E2 is daylight robbery

[harsh elm]

215B is goated

[blissful cave]

Bruh I wanted this tank like all year,I finally got it from a crate and now it’s in the shop
But thank God I got it from the crate though they’re asking for 8.5K This tank used to be 5K💀

[safe acorn]

I still haven't tried out the tank
Let me know how it handles

[ashen crown]

Ah, WoTB inflation

[safe acorn]

I don't think it's inflation
That's a scam

[ashen crown]

Yep

[wary summit]

8.5k and a skeleton crew bundle

Amazing how scummy it is

[ashen crown]

I'm still wating for a camo discount so I can finally get the Custodian
I've been resisting the urge to gamble

[wary summit]

Hopefully Christmas discount exists soon

[drifting grove]

Iirc it isn't even that good.

[blissful cave]

Idc tho I just absolutely love the T95E2 as a tank irl I really want to see one of the T95 mediums from what I know there’s only two and those being these two

T95E (8 I think?) and the T95M60A2 test rig

Haven’t gotten to see either of them idk where that first one is and the M60A2 turret one I’m sure is at fort benning which I’ve been to but in the hidden area you can’t go to

[gaunt mountain]

i think i should rebuy the t95e2 because i liked it when i played it a while ago

[safe acorn]

Would like to have T95E1
WT butchered it so maybe WG would be nicer (not)

[solid gate]

I can't believe wz blaze a good td, great gun and aim is fast. I deal alot of damage and peek a boo tactics really works on that tank.

[patent nova]

Strv 81 feels like Centurion 1 but worse whenever I encounter it with latter while I have 250 average dmg HESH loaded and litterally melt its hp

[meager spindle]

showing a pbr model for it why it's still in reg graphics

[blissful cave]

Yeah why do they do that

T-55’s “promotional art” in draws and shop offers looks so good but the in game model looks so bad

[idle axle]

guys, why can there be a t95e6 or mbt 70 in the game but no t64 or t72? Like i undersatnd wg hates smoothbore guns, but we have the wz 1224 aka bz75, why not just some obj 432 A or obj 172A and just give it the real 5 km/s reverse speed, real amor values (300-350mm) and a 122mm rifled gun like MT 62 o something, that would be such a cool tank to see. Like we literally have lion, why not obj 432. Again i understand wg hates apfsds, but they can just a gun into it as if they dont have completely made up tanks to begin with

[violet timber]

Obj 430 is probably the closest we’d get in game, and I’m kind of surprised it’s not in already

Obj 172 really doesn’t have a chance of ever getting added tbh

[idle axle]

look at that tank, look at the hatch, look at the lower plate, how is this not a realistic tier 10?

[violet timber]

It has composite armor and a smoothbore gun, both of which WG doesn’t like adding

[idle axle]

t95e6 has composite, wz1224 (bz 75 has composite) lion has composite, wg had no issues adding those

[violet timber]

T95E6 doesn’t have composite, BZ75 doesn’t have composite, and Lion doesn’t have composite lol

[idle axle]

isnt the point of t95 project is to use composite armor? lion turret has composite

[violet timber]

The T95 experimented with composite armor, but most hulls didn’t have it. And the Lion turret doesn’t have composite either. It’s just RHA. 1224 turret had the capability to mount composite blocks, but also could have them removed, much the same as the KPZ-70 turret.

[meager spindle]

kpz 70 turret used only spaced armor iirc

[violet timber]

It did, but it had the capability to mount composite inserts into the space

[meager spindle]

fair, but you know what doesn't and should be ad-

[violet timber]

No, you get made up German super heavy.

[blissful cave]

Tornvagn has composite too if that helps

[idle axle]

why are you defending wg they litearlly give unreal stats to real tanks and make completely fake tanks. t72 and 64 are real tanks, just tweak them a little bit. Like just why not if they can stick stuff like 113gft into the game. It would be a nice tank and a lot of player potential

[violet timber]

I’m not defending them, I’m telling you why the tanks you want to be added probably won’t and pointing out the flaws in your arguments.

[idle axle]

but those arent real flaws because they have added tanks that have composite armor and say the obj 172 didnt hvae composite in the turret for example. Imaine instead of cringe 777 kontakt 5 lookalike u actually have a legendary camo Obj 172 B3 (2022) camo that would be so cool ill pay 30 $ to drive one

[violet timber]

The tanks they’ve added with “composite” have had versions without composite which is why WG was okay with adding them.

The 172A, T-72A, and T-64 all use the same hull with the same composite which can’t be removed which is why WG won’t add them

I’d love if WG added tanks with composite, perhaps adding lore tiers past 10 or doing something similar to super ships in WOWS, but I know that’s not going to happen so I just manage expectations

[idle axle]

just give them a. diff hull like bz-75, and rename them to something like "destoryer" or "molot" or something. Say a t72 ural turret on a t62 hull

[violet timber]

That’s for WG to figure out, not me 🤷‍♂️

T-72 Ural turret might be the best in the game if it’s added tbh, unless I’m forgetting some sort of god tier turret

[idle axle]

lets have a petition, that would be such a cool tank to have. Imagine tier 10 soviet collector: BS-72 B3(2022). 46 km/h top speed, 5km/h reverse, 420 damage, 262 mm apds standard, 410mm heat. turret front 350-300 mm, massive 80mm hatch. Hull front 400mm, just like the e100. lower plate 90mm. sides 90mm (like the real one)

[violet timber]

Are those raw or effective values?

Because effectively, the Ural’s turret was around 400mm frontally

[idle axle]

real values, like actual real values. Also the t72 turret had flat front, so the area around the gun is 350mm max, including the 400mm hull, that is against heat, maybe around 300 against real ap as ceramic didnt do much against real ap

[violet timber]

Turret was around 400mm frontally, hull was around 350 effective with an 80mm raw lower plate, probably around 120ish effective

[idle axle]

there is a simulation on yt somehwere where a 128mm pzgr penned most of the abrams' hull composite armor, like it stopped on the last 90mm of the solid plate.

[violet timber]

Tbh most of the YouTube simulations are hilariously wrong

[idle axle]

but it makes sense tho, that abrams hull is desinged to erode apfsds with nera, not full caliber AP. i do undersatnd that it would still stop a 130mm full caliber ap from s-70, so that would serve its purpose, but again the pen against heat or apfsds isnt equivalnet

[violet timber]

Full caliber AP would perform worse than APFSDS against it lol

The NERA that absorbs the energy from an APFSDS shell would do even better against a full caliber AP shell

[idle axle]

I understand, of course. But if that apfsds can pen 400mm of RHA, if you get a full caliber ap that can pen 400mm of RHA, it can pen way more composite

[violet timber]

No, it can’t. Dart rounds are made to have way more kinetic energy by their design than AP shells.

They fly much, much faster with a larger penetrating core than full caliber AP shells, giving them way more kinetic energy. Add on the fact that they are going through less area meaning they’re using up less energy going through armor and you see why nobody uses full caliber AP shells anymore

[idle axle]

ke = 1/2mv^2 , say the s70 full caliber ap, has 13MJ of KE, even vaccum 1 doesnt have that much

[violet timber]

I know how kinetic energy works lmao, and darts have more. If it worked like you said, then everybody would be switching back to full caliber AP shells lmao

[idle axle]

if you dont believe me go plug in the numbers yourself. 😦 and again, im not saying that ap pens more, im just saying that given 400mm penning ap vs 400mm penning apfsds, the ap would pen more composite armor. it has way more enrgy because its thicker, cross section higher. the reason for apfsds is really just sloped armor, thats a seperate talk. But that kinetic energy argument does not make sense.

[violet timber]

A thicker cross section doesn’t give it more energy. It’s slower and the denser core that actually does the penetrating is also smaller. This is why darts are used in modern munitions, because they have way higher kinetic energy and are capable of going through way more composite armor.

[idle axle]

no, not because of kinetic energy, apfsds beucase it is good against sloped armor, which was prevalent before it was invented, that is because it is long, has big moment of inertia. thicker cross section means need more energy to pen same armor. Bigger fatter shell 1/2 mv^2, the m is much bigger than the increase of sqrt v apfsds get, due to the finite speed of gunpowder expansion

[violet timber]

Except the m isn't bigger because the dense core where most of the weight is is smaller than in darts. And darts have a way higher v which is squared, giving them way more kinetic energy. And this kinetic energy is the same reason they're good against slopes. They have so much energy that the shell just digs into the armor.

[idle axle]

1. around 1020m/s vs 1500 m/s, 2) 33kg vs like what? 5?

[violet timber]

Okay but how much of that 33kg is actually penetrating the armor? That's the issue. Most of it wasn't actually doing anything, unlike on a sabot round where most of it is actually interacting with the armor

[idle axle]

again, i am not arguing that a full ap vs a apfsds with the same ke can pen more armor, that is not true because the penetration mechanic is different, apfsds erodes as it penetrates with insane pressure, ap forces thorugh by shearing the armor. But im saying that against flat composite armor ap will pen more equivalent mm than it would against RHA

[violet timber]

Except it won't due to how composite armor works. It absorbs the energy, which for an AP shell is spread over a much larger distance than a sabot round, and as such it loses energy quicker

[idle axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba3jGiaTsdY

there you go, jagdtiger doesnt have 500mm of heat pen, yet it technically did

[meager spindle]

yay! notoriously dodgy accuracy pen simulators!

[violet timber]

Again, those "simulations" are hilariously inaccurate

[idle axle]

what makes you think so? i would say maybe 80% accurate?

[violet timber]

I've seen what some of the simulations have said vs what happens in real life and they are wrong like 80% of the time lmao

[idle axle]

not all simulations are good, but this channel is pretty accurate i think, bro actually puts research

[violet timber]

And yet there’s no way a JagdTiger shell is getting most of the way through an Abrams lower plate, even if it is an early Abrams

[idle axle]

you saying "no way" is due to common sense, that simulation is a real mathematical mode, which do you think is more accurate? also check this out im dying laughing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoILzjpCU64&t=1s

[violet timber]

I’m saying no way based off of real world data lmao, that just wouldn’t happen

[idle axle]

real data of full caliber ap vs abrams hull where? show me

[violet timber]

Real world data of the early Abrams hull being able to withstand ~500mm of sabot round penetration. And the JagdTiger round don’t have near the penetrating power of a sabot shell.

[idle axle]

the reason why abrams has flat composite and t series has tilted front composite is because when t64 was designed, most countries tanks still shot full caliber ap, so that sloped armor was inpervious. when abrams was made, soviets shot only apfsds and heat, so being flat didnt matter, but makese the composite better. Also as we have disscussed above, sabot isnt the same penetration mechanism as full caliber AP

its like calling a heat projectile burning thorugh armor its just not the same

[violet timber]

Except they are the same penetration mechanism. It’s kinetic energy breaking through metal and whatever composites are there lol. And Soviet armor was angled so that it could have a low profile while still retaining strong armor. The Abrams armor is most flat so that there’s more internal space, and they made up for that by making the armor thicker.

[idle axle]

if you look at "next gen" soveit tanks, they dont have that sloped upper plate anymore, for the reasons stated above

[violet timber]

That’s… not the reason. They don’t have sloped armor for the reason I stated, more crew in the hull. Sloped armor takes up space, so they got rid of it.

[idle axle]

armata still has it, has crew in the hull, whats the issue? (this is not against full caliber ap, but to counter that they have it so it takes up more space)

[violet timber]

That’s quite literally the “next gen” Soviet tank lmao.

[idle axle]

i was talking about the real next gen ones, not the soviet union wannabe russian ones. Like t90 as a tank is just sadness, t90 is like a t34-85 instead of a t44

[violet timber]

And the slope isn’t as aggressive as on previous tanks, the hull is larger, and so there’s more space for the crew

[violet timber]

Go on then, show the “real next gen” Russian tanks then.

[violet timber]

Oh wow, old designs all with sloped armor…

[meager spindle]

literally just testbeds that became the t90/t14/dead ends

[idle axle]

that massive "lower plate" is cry

[violet timber]

The lower plates that are all sloped like Russia’s current tanks?

[idle axle]

as a wotb player you can tell the lower plate diff

[violet timber]

I’d also like to point out how the Challenger 2 and Leopard 2 still incorporate sloped armor, even though it “doesn’t matter” according to you.

[idle axle]

the design ist for the sloped armor to bounce full caliber ap, but to make critical angles to make up for the composite amor gaps

[idle axle]

thats cuz ussr. ded 😦

[violet timber]

It’s to put more effective armor in the way of a shell, which is the entire point of sloped armor lol

[idle axle]

its more like the effective armor is not just a linear trig function, the length of the ap shell vs the armor thickness depends on whether the armor will shear vs bounce

[safe acorn]

It wouldn't pen

[safe acorn]

Asked Abdul Aziz down in Iraq
Hell gladly give you some experiences shooting an Abrams with his T-55

In other words, full caliber AP should not be able to penetrate through an Abrams, because it would've done so 30 years ago

[valid gale]

Yes and no?

The Soviet design is inherently immune to older HEAT and AP but the design overall is to utilize cast construction and hull down doctrine

The Abram’s design is meant to induce shattering on the front of the hull

[valid gale]

Full caliber 150mm will wreck an Abram’s
Composite is superb against rods but against pure heavy AP it will cave against it

For instance e100s UFP in raw LOS thickness is estimated to be 1000mm effective

[safe acorn]

Guess I wouldn't believe it until the Russians try it out

Ukraine has some Abrams anyways

[valid gale]

It’s the same reason why composite is resistant against HEAT and crumbles against HE

All that is meant to slow and weaken a concentrated point of energy but against a wide spread amount of it it will just tear off or cave in

[safe acorn]

I mean against HE yeah since Abrams had a live firing against a 155mm HE round and lost (like most other things)

But against full caliber, I think it'll buckle but that's about it

Besides I don't think there's any high power 150mm full caliber shooter since the 50s

Unless the Russians still field BR-540B which I doubt

[violet timber]

Hear me out, top attack kinetic penetrators

[gritty charm]

hi

[safe acorn]

Hear me out

Just regular missile based kinetic penetrators
We have the funds now so don't pull back

[wary summit]

Welcome back GAU-8

[violet timber]

Welcome back LOSAT

[safe acorn]

But fr tho I don't believe full caliber 150s could punch through an Abrams

Because in my mind, the best 150mm that shot AP was the 268, and it only got like 250mm of pen with subpar velocity

[valid gale]

You don’t need to defeat the armor you just need to compromise it

[safe acorn]

So equivalent to a Tiger II armor cracking after getting a 122mm to the upper hull

Would it still be repairable? God knows

[valid gale]

The 183 for example with the mass of its ammo it ripped off the centurion turret and split the conquerer mantlet in half

[safe acorn]

yeah because it's a HESH round

Yk

A literal nuke

[meager spindle]

all i think about hearing the term "centurion" and "hesh" within a convo

[wary summit]

Minor cooking error

[sharp raven]

Its Repost from 11d ago and i add tier X concept
ST-62 ver. 2 - Reverse Autoreloader Concept
Ammo Type - AP/APCR/HE
Alpha - 280/240/350
Shells per Clip - 3x
Reload time 7.7s/6s/10s -> 23.7sec for Full Clip
Intra-Clip -> 4s (7.7s/10s/14s) cuz 4s Intra-Clip
DPM - 2183 when firing last shell in magazine only (same DPM currently in game)
Dispersion at 100m - 0.345 -> 0.355 (Stock)
Aim-Time - 4.5s -> 4.8s (Stock)

Or

Make it Tier X
Ammo Type - AP/APCR/HE -> APCR/AP/HE
Alpha - 280/240/350 -> 320/270/420
Shells per Clip - 3x
Penetration 185/240/42 -> 245/290/50
Reload Time - 6.78s/7.15s/9.84s -> 23.77sec for full clip
Intra-Clip -> 2.3s (6.78s/9.45s/11.14s) cuz 2.3s Intra-Clip
DPM - 2831 when firing last shell in magazine only
Dispersion at 100m 0.345 -> 0.317 (stock)
Aim-Time - 4.5s -> 3.4s (stock)

Cmon WG i beg you... 🥺 Please make ST-62 ver. 2 interesting to play its just straight up worse Obj. 590 or make it tier X so it will so much more interesting to play than boring single shot mediocre tank at tier VIII that nobody plays...
Concept is from WoTPC cuz ST-62 ver. 2 got reverse autoreloader...

Cmon WG make it Tier X you will sold it as tier X and the one already having it will get tier X... for tier VIII price, but you already sold T95E6 at that price so nothing would change

[keen abyss]

T 100lt or Sheridan line?

[sharp raven]

T-100 but if youre asking that, that means you re not experienced enough to play lights so i do not recommend doing it

[keen abyss]

I mean I heard it was good to learn light tanks

[sharp raven]

Yea but not on tier X... Maybe play tier VI or VII Lights but tier X is too much

[keen abyss]

Well I guess I gotta learn with French lights

[sharp raven]

Or if you have Sheridan Missile than just play fun modes to learn to some degree how to play lights

[fervent elm]

APCR standard is a crime against pixel tanks

[sharp raven]

But WG loves giving standard APCR

[safe acorn]

Not anymore
Now most tanks got AP as standard
APCR standard now belongs to the obvious culprits that were strong before the rebalancing

[sharp raven]

I dont know if 260 and 777 are stronger than other that deserves APCR standard

[safe acorn]

Both are alright

[verbal harbor]

Looking a little green today

[verbal patio]

Any meta tanks fun to grind?

[potent wolf]

How rare is Concept 1B?

[dire nest]

wouldn't say it's rare because of the fact that it can be acquired from crates

[potent wolf]

I see

[light vale]

basically anyone who was playing the game 10 years got it for free, so its definitely not rare

[potent wolf]

Wait really? That's generous of wargaming

[lyric oriole]

Sweet hot wheels collection, I think I still have mine somewhere but it's only one of those cases

[granite pine]

Oh he dead

[sullen abyss]

🥺 I feel old

I used to play hotwheels flash games on the website on a really old PC

[solid gate]

I would love to see the Ukrainian t64 or t84 oblat

[violet timber]

T-84 is never being added, and T-64 is most likely never being added either

[solid gate]

T72?

[violet timber]

Same boat as the T-64 lol

[solid gate]

So no new or modern day tanks?

[violet timber]

No

Pretty much anything with composite armor or smoothbore guns (smoothbore is a bit weirder) won't be added ever

[solid gate]

I hate the fact that they nerfed the waffle tractor i used to enjoy playing it very much

[blissful cave]

Yooo IMT what’s that?
TS-6 I know for sure is real all the TS and TL’s are in the Hunnicutt books like TS-5 and TL-7

US tanks have a nearly perfect track record of being real so I’m sure IMT is real
I’m pretty sure that record applies to PC too don’t know for certain tho since I don’t know all the tanks in pc only few I’ve seen in images like this that we don’t have like Chrysler 2 track and XM57 which I know are real
Every US tank is real except 4 tech tree ones (both T25 TD’s,T28 prot and T110E4)

[blissful cave]

I think i already found it

The side turret machine guns and above the track machine guns check out

[blissful cave]

Britain had a perfect record (aside from FV215 the rear turret conqueror) until senlac was added but then PC started to ruin that with things like can opener

Seemed easy to find,tank encyclopedia has an article on it
And this seems to be a WW2 concept interesting I never knew about this thing

[spare shard]

Lion buff when?🤔

[scarlet agate]

What do you think about T22 medium? I opened from globe, but I feel like it is really bad compared to other mediums

I can not think about any reason to use it over Kpz 50t

[solid gate]

I can pen a 50t in the turret, i cannot pen a t22 in the turret. So that with its troll armor is nice.

[violet timber]

One of the best meds atm

[scarlet agate]

maybe just the first few games are unlucky, but I like both 907 and 50t more.

but T22 feels terrible. From 3 games got ammo racked 2 times, no gun dep, feels like no armor, low alpha with bit above average DPM. If I want more DPM, I can drive Kpz 50t, for more armor I can drive STB 1 and both will be better.

or if I want similar tank, there is obj 907 with better accuracy, more gun dep and tracer shells

[sharp raven]

ur playing it wrong... T-22 medium selling point is almost impervious turret, best tank at reverse sidescrape and Tungsten shells... one of the best mediums if used correctly

[simple monolith]

Can I ask what happened to project murat

[solid gate]

Too expensive and the dmp disappointed many people, some also think it was not worth that much resources, but imo its still good

[safe acorn]

Thought I told you about it
About the AGF classes

[frail quartz]

please stop adding autoreloaders

[wary summit]

With reserve shell mechanic

[violet timber]

What’s that? Autoreloader with 3 reserve shells? Okay!

[solid gate]

If lion don't have that it will be able to dumb 340x3+tungsteng and leave, dpm won't be a problem

[wary summit]

The Prog sooner or later

[steady otter]

Being Keni Otsu and teir 1 mk1 back plz

[safe acorn]

What's wrong with autoreloaders tho
Seems fun

[solid gate]

You never encountered a waffletraktor in a tier 8 before in wot.

An that was just a basic autoloader. Broke the game so hard they took it out

[safe acorn]

Oh WoT
Was thinking about WoTB
Wouldn't care then

[solid gate]

Well kinda the same, maybe a little worse cause of the smaller and quicker games, which means those that do not have the quick capacity to out clip can make it seem unfair, But I feel like they are balancedish, dont really feel super strong except maybe the tier 9 yo with the double shot gun.

[safe acorn]

I think Italian MTs are just really good

[stone marten]

after i got mine

[spare shard]

So no buff b4 2026

[rotund cedar]

For the first time Wargaming gives me something good I think

[latent crypt]

Guy's should jagpanzer e-100 be buffed with a bit more of hp

[spare ridge]

No it's perfect right now

[latent crypt]

It's very slow

[grim hinge]

I think ur playing it wrong.

[safe acorn]

um yeah? what did you expect?

[latent crypt]

I expect to give jg a bit of health

[safe acorn]

Jg is tanky for what it is
Has been buffed twice now

[stone marten]

youre way optimistic

[mortal lotus]

what your oppinion on new tank mau5tank

[languid panther]

Where can you see if the tank is buff or adjust?

[solid gate]

BlitzKit

[rotund cedar]

What are your opinions on the Defender Mk.1?

[ruby basin]

Most consider it very strong

[ruby basin]

Are you on the correct account/region?

If yes to both, try ctrl shift f5

[sullen abyss]

Tall tank with impressive turret armor, little to no hull armor and decent mobility. Gun is relatively accurate and pretty large burst for one clip

A pretty nice tier 8 medium imo

[rancid fog]

I would say its OP. You didnt mention -10 depression, insane pen for medium. Quite easy to play. Only drawback being low DPM.

[solid gate]

WG, add this tank plssss :)))

[rancid fog]

It would just roll over to side on that incline.

[meager spindle]

im glad someone else realizes that image itself defies the laws of physics

[plucky summit]

I personally can't get behind the whole dozens of turrets on a tank idea. It just seems goofy and impractical

[rancid fog]

You would be better mounting triple gun battleship turret on tracked chassis than this kv-2 abomination from practical standpoint. (before anyone answers, i know it wouldnt work and would be useless)

[sullen abyss]

Haha typed while I was walking but you’re absolutely correct. It’s a very strong medium

[solid gate]

ive finished the snowglobe event

got the t54e2 😭
is it good ?

[tulip steppe]

shark is very good

[blissful cave]

Yooo I love T54E2 absolutely baller ah tank

Wish I could see one irl but they scrapped them all for some reason

https://external-preview.redd.it/vZMihB3FeHg8mIH12XLXtp66S0AH1qktaF9panIxa0I.jpg?auto=webp&s=d87e57a7158700f876e7b60b5ea7175509383e4e

Seems like the kind of thing they’d probably keep
They were usually quick to scrap the oscillating turret tanks like T57 heavy,T77,T58 and all but one T54E1 and T69 but I’d imagine an “improved M48 Patton” would be kept

[safe acorn]

I wished they added that one off T54E2 turret with the M48 hull

[blissful cave]

What one off T54E2 turret? Does one still exist?

[safe acorn]

To be specific
M48A2 hull (engine deck hump)
T54E2 turret
And I assume a 120mm gun

I know hunnicutt's book on MTs have it because I got it from there but pics are hard to find

Give me a moment

[blissful cave]

Not gonna forget this one thing that one of the people who maintains the armor cavalry collection said (fort benning) about how the US used to not care about preservation (they were gonna scrap all their captured foreign tanks from WW2 like their tiger) and how later after the war started to care about preservation
And overhearing that my first thought was “then where’s T54E2?”

[safe acorn]

Only WoT Console has it and I think WoT PC called it Patton the Tank?

WoTB doesn't have this and it would be a nice Tier IX HT other than that disgusting one

[blissful cave]

Or T57 Heavy,or T58 Heavy,T77 or…wait that’s about it

M6A2E1 too but that was deemed a very “unnecessary failure” in WW2 so I understand why they scrapped it,but still not happy about it because I love that tank

(M6 was deemed unsuccessful and the M6A2E1 idea would’ve been scrapped but only built just to test stuff for T29)

[blissful cave]

Yees T95E3 I think

[tulip steppe]

didn't they scrap everything when they discovered the soviets had the is3?

[safe acorn]

Ngl scrapping tanks is one thing
Planes are kept relatively secure

God forbid any naval vessel is preserved

[meager spindle]

nah just drop a nuke on it

[blissful cave]

A little understandable why they do that with just how much steel you can get out of a battleship
But we’d all love if they were kept

But nah T57 Heavy pure hater move on that one they scrapped it immediately and we can’t even see any photos of it

[safe acorn]

I'm sorta angry that Singapore closed down the only Armor Museum it had 2 years ago

And it got some good stuff

Would've loved to see the upgraded AMX-13s and the experimental APFSDS round we made for it

[tulip steppe]

that climate seems like a nightmare for upkeep

[blissful cave]

You want to know what I wish they’d do? Make replicas of concept tanks

OHHHHH if I was ever super rich I’d use my money to fund someone to build a full scale replica of whatever concept tank of my choice for tank museums

[safe acorn]

I'm planning to do that
But ofc I need to catch my secondary dream first

[blissful cave]

To keep it simple they don’t need to have armor thickness,detailed components or functional in any way just a life size realistic model that looks like a real tank

First tank to be built,TORNVAGN
or if I’m starting Swedish then finish Kranvagn then Tornvagn

[safe acorn]

Some of the AMX-13s still stand
One outside of the National Museum and another outside of a Commando Base

[safe acorn]

I'm planning to do this
Probably start off with Chi-Ri

[blissful cave]

US the concept id want most would either be revive T57 Heavy
Or Concept 1B for a single tank but the one I’d want to do most would be a set of the Yohs

Britain probably Chimera that’s an interesting fellow

[safe acorn]

I think Chi-Ri would be easy to start off with knowing how badly designed the armor was
That and well I want to remake the functioning autoloader for it

[blissful cave]

Soviet concept lmao the Soviets didn’t even think about it most of the time they just simply built it so idk what to pick for first pick soviet
So likely revive a scrapped tank?

[safe acorn]

The thing is it's also something I wanna sell

Heard there's a company out in the US that makes replica P-51s on request, made out of carbon fibre
Plan to do the same

[blissful cave]

Idk if (I think it’s 490) is still around but if it’s not then I want it back

[tough swift]

get a load of the circular kv 2 turrets

[blissful cave]

I
LOVE
THIS
TANK

[tough swift]

yo what is that

[safe acorn]

With metals being 3D printable now
Should be less of a hassle than it would

Maybe in 20 years, metal printers would be more common in larger sizes

[blissful cave]

AE Phase Tornbadger lmao

[tough swift]

brother ewwwwww sprocket type stuff

[safe acorn]

Would like to ring up a close friend of mine when the time comes

He's more familiar with kitbuildimg than I am

[blissful cave]

The actual name is Object 490

[safe acorn]

That and I think with time he could replicate the autoloader system of the T-72 using Arduino or something

[tough swift]

wouln’tbe suprised if it was the USSR that made this (they make alot pf tomfoolery)

grammar

[safe acorn]

I would also like to make replica planes ngl

MiG 1.44 is such a beauty

[tough swift]

nuh uh su 47

[safe acorn]

There goes supersonic handling

[blissful cave]

Idk anything about planes
My autism is so specific that it’s just tanks,not even armored cars or other similar things like carriers or whatever the sub categories Bradley,CV90,BMP are considered

[tough swift]

SPAA is very autistic

[safe acorn]

war is what makes my IQ run

[tough swift]

but you rather ww1/ww2 or modern era tanks

[blissful cave]

Concept tanks are my main autistic interest
But just about everything,except modern tanks I’m not that good with those

[tough swift]

I used to be obsessed with ww2 tanks

[safe acorn]

I need to learn about ships
Then my trinity of vehicular combat technology knowledge is done

[blissful cave]

Favorite era was WW2 tanks but now it’s postwar/Cold War concepts (gee I wonder who got me into that)

[violet timber]

Planes are my jam

[tough swift]

I like them all planes, tanks and ships

[blissful cave]

It’s not like nearly every premium tank coming into the game is pulled from Cold War concepts and are genuinely super interesting like question mark conference and broths school of tank technology concepts

[safe acorn]

I'm also getting into infantry

Especially how urban combat works (since all of my friends are into that)

[violet timber]

Urban combat is rough, just send in the tanks if you have to

[tough swift]

im also a maniac on guns even tho im not american

[blissful cave]

Stuff like XM66F,Yohs,TS/TL’s,T110E3 and E5,AE Phase 1 list goes on
And British STT we got stuff like Chimera Cobra Caliban Charlemagne

[safe acorn]

That's the thing
You don't

Or else you're gonna have a problem with turret carcasses all round

[tough swift]

are there any american and british super heavies

[violet timber]

Most doctrine is to avoid urban combat all together, but if you have to, you do send in the tanks

[tough swift]

or just bomb them i you dont care about collateral damage

[blissful cave]

Yes there was a US superheavy concept
Britain idk as much about I think there was one tho

[violet timber]

The idea being that it’s better for infantry to have a tank with them than it is to have them go in naked so to speak

[safe acorn]

Man
The Russians did that
The Turkish did that
The Saudis did that

They all come back with inop tanks

[tough swift]

TOG

[violet timber]

And yet it’s still American doctrine

[safe acorn]

Why? Oh I don't know maybe tanks aren't as protected on the roof against a RPG-29

[blissful cave]

Not counting TOG Tortoise and T95 they were built
I meant concepts

[violet timber]

There’s a reason most tanks get urban combat upgrade kits, and it’s not because they don’t go into urban situations lmao

[blissful cave]

Here’s the US’s unbuilt superheavy concept

[wary summit]

Urban warfare

You either go Bagdadi bomb rush or redevelop small calibre AA SPG

[tough swift]

I do remener thw is made nuclear powered tank i think it was calle the tu-40 or somehting

[safe acorn]

They send in the IFVs and the APCs
Never the Abrams unless until the AT squads are out

We literally see what's happening down in the ME with the Merkavas

[violet timber]

Abrams are sent in as well lmao

[tulip steppe]

western tactics don't use tanks in street to street, to many exposure points, maybe as a mop up after air bombardment

[valid gale]

tfw you canned all your programs for a rotary cannon SPAA and refuse to upgun your 30mm

[tough swift]

Its the tv 8

[blissful cave]

Also do with this information what you will,
superheavy with a minimum of 150 tons for test purposes

[tough swift]

im assuming the stalin 3 is the is 3

[blissful cave]

US would’ve had their own Maus basically

[safe acorn]

Or long range fire support
Never the case of street to street combat

even the Russians don't like street to street combat with their T-90s, and they have APS, Soft Kill and top attack KE/CE ERA combined

[wary summit]

I was mentioning the BMPT-72 but that's pretty funny too

[safe acorn]

Found it hilarious when a Syrian government Shilka just decimated a building just for one sniper

And that was years back

I mean I guess that's one reason why the M2 modification came about

Anyways yeah I guess I'm interested in war machines in general

If it's used in combat and shoots, I'm learning that

[ashen crown]

Nothing like overkill

[safe acorn]

Live sniper reaction

[blissful cave]

may I speak to whoever had the idea to add a tier 9 annihilator

[blissful cave]

Ok so what’s like the “optimal mau5tank” lmao
Annihilator gun,reactive armor tungsten?

[safe acorn]

Probably my favourite Leopard 2A7 type

[meager spindle]

HU my beloved

[deep timber]

As a f2p player with 16k gold, should I buy anything from the auction?

[tulip steppe]

what tier do you mostly play?

[deep timber]

Ngl haven’t played much lately but 7-8 a lot and 10

[tulip steppe]

the 252u is always a good choice for around 8k, makes credits and it's easy

[wary summit]

I'm sorry but you can get the 252u bundle for just 6.5k

[tulip steppe]

6.5k, hmm i haven't seen that one, yea that's a good deal for it

[violet timber]

252U isn’t very good anyways

[wary summit]

Better to aim for the K-91 or T-22 in the current auctions, or keep for the next 2 stages

[deep timber]

Aight thanks

[cobalt plaza]

Guys I bought the fv201 a45 from the auction and can u guys give me some tips on how to use the dpm and armor??

And my consumables are adrenaline, tungsten and multi restoration

What do u guys suggest

[robust orchid]

Think of it as a slow Centurion

[tulip steppe]

you need to equip calli and don't be afraid to bring more than normal prammo because you'll need to spit more of it vs tier 8s

[cobalt plaza]

Thanks guys (:

[safe acorn]

Live reaction of a Tiger II gunner after the turret is penetrated on the side by a 155mm AP round from a T30

[frigid coral]

can someone explain to me how to use Microsoft Rewards points for the game?

[zealous mesa]

Guys.. Hear me out.

Jadgtiger II

[safe acorn]

It sorta exists

[zealous mesa]

o

[safe acorn]

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/tigerjager-design-b/

[zenith shadow]

Is that real or?

[safe acorn]

sorta

[zenith shadow]

Blueprint only tank im guessing?

[safe acorn]

Could read the above link

[icy wadi]

terribly edited ai images

[solid gate]

finally new tier 9 collector

[clear saddle]

Hello guys!, needed some tips on playing the IS-8 (t9), in the line of is-3 (t8). till now is-8 has okok damage, and isnt a brawler, have to hide behind teammates to not get shot to heck in a few seconds

[blissful cave]

This rear mount Jagdtiger looks like it’d fit in the tech tree better with Jagdpanther 2 and Jag E-100 since the tier 8 and 10 are both the same shape

But of course the official Jagdtiger is iconic and must be in the tech tree

[safe acorn]

Would rather it be replacing Jgpanzer E-100 entirely
Just give it that one officer's request for a 70 caliber variant of the 128mm

[blissful cave]

And Jag E-100 a premium?

[safe acorn]

oh this tech tree doesn't have a nuke, therefore it must have one

[blissful cave]

As much as I think the FV 183 is an interesting tank irl and would want a model of it too
I cannot get myself to like it this game made me hate it