vehicles-discussion

[wild cape]

It sure isn't respectful

[thorny smelt]

🍿

[wild cape]

You do realise the 263 has much stronger frontal armor than this tank right?

[plucky summit]

If a TD were to be geared towards using its HE, it should be turreted and lightly armored for speed. Even then, that's just Sheridan

[misty wing]

I'm calling out your lack of respect in the first place though?

[plucky summit]

Situationally, if you maintain that the plates I contested were buffed to stay red against IS-7 AP

[fading pulsar]

not really. The 263’s mantlet isn’t the strongest, it has an easy lower plate pen, and there’s the large bar that any tier 9-10 tank can pen with premium ammo (even standard for other TDs).

[plucky summit]

Is this 320mm against AP, APCR, or HEAT?

[thick granite]

APCR

[wild cape]

Listen I don't care about whatever you think of me or yourself that has nothing to do about the stats and armor layout of the tank were discussing. So unless ur gonna give me a suggestion or reply to something about the tank itself I'm not gonna bother continuing this conversation anymore.

[safe cedar]

Wouldn't that just be a slightly buff obj 704...? Lol

[plucky summit]

The upper plate should be around 262mm nominal

[valid gale]

why is a lower plate immune to standard. Did we not learn anything from minotaruo

[thick granite]

Wait no no it’s just the effective thickness of the plate itself

[wild cape]

I geuss 704 does have funny side armor yeah now that you mention it.

[plucky summit]

Effective thickness changes when different shell types encounter it. You mean for HEAT, then, which has no shell normalization?

[valid gale]

^

[misty wing]

You're really saying this while ignoring what I said about you saying stuff that isn't true to make my argument look worse, lmao

[lyric copper]

this is why neither of you should have cooked

[wild cape]

If you think the minotauro is hard to deal with/op then you don't have a place to even be apart in this conversation

[plucky summit]

It's not that it's OP, it's just bad tank design

[safe cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-bus-stop-angry-shouting-gif-4874965684579538651

[misty wing]

You should've used IS-4 hull as a base, that would make a lot more sense as a TD with strong side armor

[lyric copper]

imagine being a Leo 1 and this thing takes 60% of your HP away because it has 750 HE alpha

you can’t circle, 42 deg/s

you can pen frontally (rng will say no to literally the most accurate gun in the game hitting that tiny cupola)

amazing design and balance choices

[valid gale]

I never implied this and the fact you jumped to that already tells me everything I need to know. minotaro is a garbage tank saved only by its armor the reason why I keep bringing that issue up is it’s incredibly stupid to make a tank frontally entirely immune to standard balance wise this means it must lack in other characteristics and mino pays for this with maneuverability and gun handling

[plucky summit]

Old IS-4, lol.

[misty wing]

or heck even an Object 257

[thick granite]

I mean. You as a Leo 1 shouldn’t put urself in that situation

[plucky summit]

If he did that, then the tank would lose tons of viability

[valid gale]

So instead of circling a fixed td you fight it head on in a medium?

[misty wing]

and this thing takes away 60% of your HP away because it has 750 HE alpha

that is some poor math there mate, unless you're counting a maxroll for some reason

[solid gate]

Put this 460mm cannon TD with 10k damage instead

[wild cape]

Top tier level mafs

[valid gale]

He’s a little off that’d be 1/3rd of HP

[lyric copper]

I mean, not like you gave it extreme stats

good traverse, good accuracy, HE alpha, non-pennable front

guess I’ll have to not fight it

like sniper tf2

[plucky summit]

If they maxroll the HE, Leopard 1 loses 52%

[safe cedar]

Well leopard 1 does need a nerf tbf #tank-balance-discussion message

[wild cape]

Minotauro on paper is garbage but performs excellent in practice due to the lack of competetence in the wotb community. Take away its armor and it becomes useless. Same thing can be said for the 268v4.

[plucky summit]

Lol, 268v4 is water

[valid gale]

And this isn’t good design

[misty wing]

Minotauro will always be useful against tanks with less than 330 heat pen

[lyric copper]

“uhm uhm your a Leo 1 you shouldn’t be fighting against something that has all the tools it needs to counter you if you try anything!!!!!”

I wonder what the problem here is

[wild cape]

Those tanks are usually also accurate enough to hatch snipe

[plucky summit]

If the counter to your tank is to not engage it at all, then there's a problem

[valid gale]

I will die on this hill you will burn and see the Foch continue to sink within the tar pit of despair as everything else will progress

[lyric copper]

yes hatch snipe

so aim for a long time and get trolled by rng whilst they yolo the shell in and pen

[safe cedar]

Please read the attached conversation

[plucky summit]

I think he just hates Foch

[lyric copper]

C1B vs Mino hulldown staring contest be like:

[safe cedar]

That's what she said.

[wild cape]

I think he's the animator of the Foch and e100 skit

[plucky summit]

Your FochGirl?

[valid gale]

I did read it and i do not agree Leo needs one

[misty wing]

FochGirl based

[lyric copper]

he isn’t

that’s RanZar, Russian dude who animates and was the pioneer (and sadly has to live knowing that low-quality clones of him exist)

[safe cedar]

no

[wild cape]

Blud clearly can't get a joke😭. You think I wouldn't know that was ranzar? I'm the one that screenrecorded those clips lmao

[plucky summit]

If you feel bad at all for your tank, look at this old one I did on the first tank I've ever drawn.

Very balanced 🥶

[misty wing]

Can we add this to the game

[lyric copper]

well I clearly can’t because im sure if the 116 idea is a joke or not

[plucky summit]

What a Soviet-looking TD I must say

[wild cape]

Can we add the sturmtiger as well then while we're at it

[wild cape]

It's not it's an idea fabricated by @thick granite

[safe cedar]

Yez

[harsh elm]

116 F3 exists but im p sure its mid on pc

[wild cape]

I still can't believe a player who's been on the game since 2014 tried to convince me that current foch is better than 640 foch stuff like that just baffles me

[misty wing]

wait PC has a K-91 with an M62-T2 now? I need one of those

[wild cape]

Also @misty wing to get on ur point about similarities. Have you seen what the 114 SP2 is like on pc?

[verbal root]

Pantiger looking ahh

[misty wing]

Yes, what about it?

Ngl I would prefer we got the PC version ported to blitz

[wild cape]

On blitz its a slow lumbering super heavy with a big gun. On pc its an armorless td for camping

[lyric copper]

SP2 works the same playstyle in both actually

[plucky summit]

It was based on this 💀💀💀💀💀
I gave the crew an actual height to reside in and a turret that doesn't pancake them
And a GUN MANTLET lolllll

[wild cape]

Just like how it's weird that the VK90 is one of the most well known and universally feared tanks in tier 10 I blitz but in pc its just an irrelevant tier 8

[verbal root]

Tornvagn but compressed into zip file looking ahh🤣

[misty wing]

who fears the VK90
or any video game entity really

[plucky summit]

Here's the closest tank I have to one

[verbal root]

Me (I'm in Emil 2

[solid gate]

Meanwhile I'm thinking of a way of fitting a 460mm cannon into a Ho-Ri

[plucky summit]

You don't

[verbal root]

That's. A tornvagn but with tumor on the rights side of the turret

[solid gate]

but why not

[misty wing]

you extend the hull length by like 100x, remove the tracks and make it go in the water only, give it 3 turrets, and maybe rename it to something like "Yamato"

[wild cape]

Now that you mention can we give props to the console team on wargaming for actually doing something good for once and successfully balancing the sturmtiger somehow

[lyric copper]

except the tornvagn kinda does have that already

[verbal root]

Cool designs tho would prob grind for it

[safe cedar]

I find it funny IS-4 on warthunder has the old stock gun, but with 7mm less penetration than the current blitz one... lol

[plucky summit]

Because you can only fit like 3 shells into the tank

[solid gate]

Good idea, I can also control c and control v it into another one called Musashi

[verbal root]

But a bit smaller and harder to hit

[solid gate]

And the crew will have to find a way to load a 1.4 ton shell 💀

[lyric copper]

and made into an autobounce angle*

[safe cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/baboon-laptop-work-busy-screw-work-gif-4657344

[misty wing]

@blissful cave you got any info on this tank?

[safe cedar]

Cheiftan successor prototype, wooden mockup only

[wild cape]

You were bedazzled aswell

[misty wing]

Also what is this

[safe cedar]

No, I was just mad

[wild cape]

Understandable

[safe cedar]

Completely fake, but still sent to my dms.

[wild cape]

Chair lard

[verbal root]

I think I'm pretty good

[blissful cave]

Oh the nemesis MBT if I remember right it’s another British school of tank technology concept

[valid gale]

Above average

[lyric copper]

other than survival

[wild cape]

2k in tier 8 is good

[verbal root]

I don't care about surviving as long as I help enough to get my team a win

It's Best I can do

[lyric copper]

funny since surviving does exactly that

[misty wing]

I think my survival is even worse but I win over 60% of my games

[verbal root]

I at least try to take down 1 or 2 tank for the trade before died

[misty wing]

actually nvm, I have 45% survival rn

[wild cape]

It doesn't matter anyways cause 2k in tier 8 is significantly better than what people average in tier 10 sadly

[blissful cave]

Ah how far I’ve come going from not even knowing what the tiger was to being the one to go to to find out about obscure concepts makes me so happy : )

[misty wing]

they should make an M3 Lee with an absurdly powerful armament, and put it at tier 10

[blissful cave]

M3 Lee but the bottom gun is just a sturmtiger gun for literally no reason

[wild cape]

Also do any of yall know how much ground evidence you need to get a person banned

[misty wing]

ngl I'm kinda sick of these swedish style TDs being added that aren't swedish

[misty wing]

like in game?

[wild cape]

Yep

[verbal root]

Lmao

[misty wing]

I think you need a video because screenshots are too easily edited

[solid gate]

The M3 in question

[verbal root]

Ehhh I think I perform fairly well in the Emil's

[wild cape]

I have a whole replay but I'm looking to get this chimp permanently banned not just a chat ban

[thorny smelt]

First the German one. Now there's one from Russia?

[misty wing]

guess so

[safe cedar]

Pfft you can't get perma banned

[wild cape]

Aww

[harsh elm]

he will get chat banned at most lmao

[blissful cave]

Russia wishes they thought of this design

[misty wing]

technically they did, if Wargaming made it 😏

[blissful cave]

Well yea made up the design jealous of Swedens absolute masterpiece

Man if I was insanely rich I’d want to fund the creation of bringing Tornvagn to life it’s my favorite tank

[misty wing]

I think you would need a government contract before having money

[twin snow]

I want the Strv 103B its just it would be so good in wotb

[twin snow]

I would fund the production of a ACTUALLY GOOD FUNCTIONAL King Tiger or for history people Tiger II H

[remote kindle]

Don’t they have a fully functional tiger 2 in france?

[blissful cave]

Random thought I think it’s funny how tier 8 has been irl power crept from “the good WW2 tanks” like tiger II Pershing IS-3 and Centurion 1 to late 60’s 70’s Cold War concepts

[blissful cave]

Probably restoration of an existing one since the tank was actually built
They’re restoring FV4005 from a pile of rusty scrap to a running vehicle so it’s definitely possible

[remote kindle]

As i said i think there is a fully functional tiger 2 in france

[blissful cave]

Yea I think I remember seeing a video of a running one

[remote kindle]

This one

[blissful cave]

What we also need is them to finish the dang kranvagn only the hull was built

[remote kindle]

We need to rebuilt the ram2

[blissful cave]

Ram II exists I’ve seen one

[remote kindle]

Yea, but we need more

Tbh there are a bunch of tanks in canada lying around in villages.

E8 near an armor school

[blissful cave]

Only time I’ve seen an E8 was this one in a scene display pretty cool

[remote kindle]

Also near this was a park with this artillery piece.

Ww1 looking tho.

[sleek apex]

Thats nice, ngl that kind of motivates me to continue my content too, same as yours i found enjoyment on looking into further details of tanks and their camouflages.

Haven't made another during the holidays as i was burned out from loads of schoolworks from the previous semester.

[blissful cave]

Girls und panzer was what started my interest in tanks it took something I knew nothing about and made something very fun and enjoyable to watch that actually left you interested in tanks and want to find out more about em outside of watching it

[verbal root]

Same

[sleek apex]

I see

[blissful cave]

And then progressed from there to playing tank games like this where I found out about like a hundred times more tanks than the few able to be shown in a short few episodes and building models and stuff

Like this game is of course where interest in concepts started because nowhere else does concepts not even Thunder

[blissful cave]

I went into this game thinking “woah all these tanks are real and existed? (Built)” to woah they include prototypes nice to oh cool some of these weren’t actually built to
nothing is real never trust wargaming it’s all made up and then wanted to find out once and for all which are real and surprisingly it’s nearly all of them

Also that reminds me

[sleek apex]

Mine started out along with the interest of WW2 & history in 2013 when i went to play Brothers In Arms 2 (can't believe that's already a decade ago), slowly went from "cool american tanks" to tanks in general

[blissful cave]

Do you know where you found this?

[rotund sonnet]

someone who works in teh british archives

[blissful cave]

That’s very interesting to see turtle potentially real it was one of the ones I really didn’t feel like the fake mark felt right on
There’s so many STT concepts they wouldn’t just fake one

[rotund sonnet]

STT stuff, a lot of British premiums that are from STT

like the carro but some reason its a teir X italian

[blissful cave]

Like Italy and Poland tech trees make sense to have fakes they didn’t really have any tanks

[blissful cave]

Carro is based on something real?

[sleek apex]

Oh, interesting. I actually tried reverse searching the image and had no results

[rotund sonnet]

its above

[blissful cave]

Yea but what exactly
I have noticed it kinda looks like a mini challenger but that’s not enough to call it real

Or more realistically mini ariete

[sleek apex]

Interesting

The hull slightly differs in driver position and the engine deck design (or most details in general), but i agree that this might have been the basis of the tank ingame

[blissful cave]

Yooo what
It does kinda look like it’s challenger related if it’s British

[sleek apex]

Yep

[rotund sonnet]

yea its british

[sleek apex]

Iirc the first Challenger was originally meant as an upgrade of the Chieftain meant for export

[rotund sonnet]

mock up in bovington, the context is it a STT project "hotspur" to replace the Challenger

[blissful cave]

CARRO 45T IS REEEAL*

[rotund sonnet]

ish the muzzle brake is italian,also fake name

[blissful cave]

(*the design existed but the part about Italy is fake)
Couldn’t do that all in one message it would’ve tried to use those asterisks for slanted text

[sleek apex]

Can we get much higher? (So high)

[safe acorn]

Apparently one of the vague requirements of the Italian general

[rotund sonnet]

anyways fv4005 and centurion mantless turret

[sleek apex]

Probably the gun is what made it Italian ingame, something like in the Firefly

[safe acorn]

I remember there was a tank proposed that predated the Ariete development and paralleled the MBT-70 program but I forgot the name

[blissful cave]

Why do they do this :/
Just add the tank as what it actually is

[sleek apex]

Autoloader gimmick tradition of Italian tanks ig lol

[safe acorn]

Yeah Carro 45T does exist
Different designation under Carro 70
Which is basically the Italian MBT-70

Found in Revista Militaire
Can't really do anything about it being in full Italian so
I'm just assuming that's where the Carro comes from

The only 50% source is this pic made by the gents over on secretprojectsforum

[real gulch]

NGL Italian light line would be cool

[safe acorn]

Hehe
C13 T90 with 10mm armor as the thickest point while being as tall as Tiger I

[blissful cave]

https://preview.redd.it/latta-stridsfordon-a-tier-ix-swedish-tank-destroyer-in-the-v0-5e3ndy55o7aa1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f806b5320810d4d30466ec441568096c680d9e0b guys look Tornvagn with no turret

[rotund sonnet]

are you talking about the name or something else

[blissful cave]

So basically from what we know it’s basically that British challenger like concept but turned into Italian for whatever reason

Just because Italy doesn’t really have any tanks doesn’t mean they can just change countries to fill in spaces

People will be like “no they can’t add Finland because they have no tank designs” (other than BT-42 my beloved) but then not say anything about both polish lines being made up
I wouldn’t mind some WG Finnish tanks 😏

[twin snow]

I mean imagine a working king tiger with an a modern day era porshe engine instead of the crappy complex ones they had back then

[rotund sonnet]

standard b moment

[blissful cave]

Or one of the Italy and Czech lines being made up

[rotund sonnet]

tiger 2 is being restored in switzerland

[blissful cave]

Tiger II with leopard 2 engine💀

[safe acorn]

God Sweden has so many casemate proposals and regular layout configs

[real gulch]

I have Finally did it, Italian Super heavy is real now.

[twin snow]

TIGER 2 GOING 50KM/H on German highway

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/leopard-stabilization-what-ok-yaeh-gif-27541324

[rotund sonnet]

doubt it would fit in

[twin snow]

King tiger on its way to make russian tank crews angry for the next 5 days

[blissful cave]

Imagine a tiger II just going this fast

[rotund sonnet]

gearbox 💀

[safe acorn]

Hehe Tiger II with late variant 105 L7 and a redone gearbox and engine

[real gulch]

No, give it 128 of Jadgtiger

[safe acorn]

Ah yes
A downgrade

[real gulch]

Nah like same caliber of gun

[blissful cave]

Tiger II MBT-ified

[safe acorn]

Ah yes like Germany has already mass produced the gun on the KF51

[real gulch]

E50.jpeg (Its an MBT)

[wary summit]

xd

[safe acorn]

Feels something like the Israelis would do if Syrians got spare Tiger IIs

[blissful cave]

Dang whenever WG’s adds new tanks what am I gonna do about the real vs fake list am I just gonna have to re mark it completely (its images of all tanks with markings so for new ones I’d have to get new screenshots of the list)

[wary summit]

Blazer spam

[real gulch]

When you create a thing that shouldn't be:

[safe acorn]

The thing about WG
Is that they don't make their update trailers interesting enough

[verbal root]

The hell is that on the back of the smv

[real gulch]

IDK man Overpowered Panther II turret

[safe acorn]

Snail drops one trailer and it's like peak MCU all over again

[verbal root]

Look like tvp

[real gulch]

I tried to recreate this thing I made mixed with the SMV (Smaller gun tho)

[safe cedar]

And what gearbox would that be?

[rotund sonnet]

dude made a amx m4 49 without knowning

[verbal root]

That an amx imo

[safe acorn]

Have no idea
Gotta be something either new or the old gearbox reworked

[real gulch]

I hate french tanks I hate french tanks

[safe cedar]

slowly watching Tiger transform into a AMX 50, as it's modernized

[rotund sonnet]

when a french tank is actually good

[safe acorn]

Live long enough and you become something you've hated all this time

[real gulch]

I mean Its a modernized E-75...

[rotund sonnet]

france copy e50!!

[safe acorn]

Copy is a kind word for it
Outright stole it

[real gulch]

I made a bob semple TD

[rotund sonnet]

some reason they used a e50m

[safe cedar]

E-50 bears literally zero relation with AMX m4.

AMX m4 is based lonely off panther

[safe acorn]

Don't they use the same type suspension

[safe cedar]

@rotund sonnet
E-50m isnt even real... it's copyrighted by WG.

France wasnt even aware of E-50s existence lmao.

[safe cedar]

Not even remotely related.

AMX m4 suspension is more closely related to panzer III than it is E-50m.

[rotund sonnet]

ik thats why i said "idk why they used e50m" for the picture

[rotund sonnet]

its honesty a joking manner

[safe cedar]

Send link
Im sending flyers.

[safe acorn]

Tiger 2 you mean

[safe cedar]

I mean panzer III, but okay

[rotund sonnet]

he totally meant panzer III

[real gulch]

New premium

[safe acorn]

Ah yes
Panzer 3
Doesn't state variant
Expects everyone to know what he's talking about

[rotund sonnet]

another joke 💀

smooth bob

[misty wing]

Most panzer 3 variants used the same suspension type as far as I'm aware

[safe cedar]

Absolute best case scenario would either be beefed up AMX-30 or AMX-50 transmission & engine tbh.

[verbal root]

Lookmaxxing

[safe cedar]

He pulled up a random one off prototype.

Im talking about the standard serial production version.

[sleek apex]

Smaller Saint Charmond?

[misty wing]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/9j9xg3/panzer_iii_with_a_unique_suspension_system/

[verbal root]

Tank what?😭

[safe acorn]

Torsion bar suspension

[safe cedar]

Bonessmashing.

[rotund sonnet]

german bob

[real gulch]

I got more

mmm... weird ideas

[twin snow]

I like the E75 idea having an E109 hull add a big enough turret to accommodate the 122mm cannon

[halcyon lotus]

goofy tanks

[blissful cave]

If you’re cold they’re cold take your Sturmi’s inside

I took my RC Sturmi out on snow and it looks cool af

[rotund sonnet]

Wait woah woah is that Google drawings??

I stopped a lot time ago heres a unfinished panther

[blissful cave]

Wotb joe (I think unintentionally) making historically accurate Grille the video was mainly just meme-ing about making grilles gun short

Well kinda,closer than it’s in game design tho

[rotund sonnet]

Woah that's exactly what I said

Found it

[thorny smelt]

There's also a Skorpion with 15 cm gun

[verbal root]

That ain't no Scorpion
That's a grille

[rotund sonnet]

Well he's not wrong irl "grille 15" wasn't the name it was under the waffentrager panther projects which the "grille 15" was under

Bottom right corner was ripped and taped back on its hard to read it

Not sure which company created that one specifically tho

Just realized he said 15cm not 12,8cm

[thorny smelt]

Do your bits of research first before you can tell that to me. Yes, Grille exists like some of the SPGs and Grille 10 which is the Pz. Sfl. IVc which "affectionately" called the Death Toaster in this game.

[thorny smelt]

Yup. 15 cm in their blueprints for their Waffentrager Panthers.

[safe acorn]

Huh
The Leclerc programme when it was created was called Char Futur

..could char Futur 4 be based on this

[valid gale]

Future tank or armor

Same as all the KPZs that are not as related to eachother

Or XM

[safe acorn]

It kinda lines up with the actual chat Futur requirements set in 1977

Char Futur 4 is stated to be made in 1977 as well according to WG

Would like to see what the other Char Futur proposals looked like

[river kernel]

caliban tank sucks

it has lot of weak spot

[solid gate]

Sucks?

[river kernel]

yeah kinda suck

[solid gate]

It make my T49 Into a space project.

[river kernel]

what

[honest rampart]

💀

Bud thinks that the Caliban is made for winning and doesn't realize the only reason to plat it is to goof arround

[solid gate]

Thats the fast Version of ISU-152 bro

[obsidian mirage]

No way American T series 💀

[harsh elm]

that looks oddly familiar to me but i cant be bothered to go find where rn

[pastel otter]

Looks like an American bisonte

[onyx raven]

It is.

[obsidian mirage]

But it's medium not TD

[pastel otter]

Oh my bad I just saw the medium tag. Oops that’s my bad. Bisonte in blitz is a heavy that’s why I was comparing it.

[sleek apex]

Wake up @blissful cave, new question mark conference tank just dropped (on WoT PC)

[obsidian mirage]

So this tank is from prototype M103 family ?

[halcyon lotus]

that gun mantlet looks like an M-V-Yoh tbh

[safe acorn]

Hmm..
Obj 195 is a weird thing
Epic soviet wet dream
But definitely weird

[onyx raven]

It’s a blueprint tank from an unrelated project.

[sleek apex]

Source said it is named as Chrysler M-2T (Chrysler Medium Two-Track), it doesn't seem to be related to the M103 though.

Interesting enough it has a four track concept similar to the AE Phase 1.

[neon locust]

Guys
I have a question
Is the kv-5 good?
I got it from mystery crate certs
So far i can say it has pretty good armor
What do you guys think?
Should i sell it,or keep it?

[sleek apex]

Afaik it is told to be good (or decent at least) after it got buffed, nice tank for fun modes like gravity ig, definetly a keeper since it only sells for credits.

[blissful cave]

Yoooo let’s goooo they’re adding Chrysler concept
It was presented at the same question mark conference as AE they had a version with 4 tracks as well as a normal 2 track

AE doubled down on 4 tracks when their design was found to be flawed they instead made an improved AE Phase 2 which I do hope is added as a tier 10 (and is NOT impossible to get like phase 1 just be a normal tier 10 collector)

[mental delta]

how to get sheridan missile

[undone star]

Events

[onyx raven]

XM66F is fake

[amber flume]

So is bison

[onyx raven]

The TS-5 is real and had a mock-up made

[amber flume]

Like maybe blueprint or prototype but none were in service😅

[onyx raven]

None of the Question Mark tanks were built, but the XM66F was never designed. It was made up by WH.

[onyx raven]

Huh. Where did that come from?

[blissful cave]

I remember I thought XM was fake too but somebody showed me this and the source I’ll see if I can find it again

[blissful cave]

Found it https://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=17240 just scroll down a bit it’s in there among other weird concepts

Quite a group of weirdos I must say

Especially you in the middle

[balmy compass]

that 4th one looks like the Starship

[blissful cave]

Yea while looking for it I found a piece of information I didn’t know before about these I think most of these were M60 turret variant concepts which is why all these except weirdo and XM66F look like M60 starships

[balmy compass]

second one looks sorta similar to the MBT-70

[blissful cave]

I think the second is this one

[balmy compass]

the mantlet isn't extened out like that picture tho
engine deck isn't raised either

[blissful cave]

Or at least related to this because when you search up XM66F this comes with it

[balmy compass]

interesting

[robust orchid]

Is the Pawlack Tank any good at all? It seems lacking for a T6 Heavy

[violet timber]

It’s alright

[blissful cave]

It’s damage feels way nicer than I expected but it’s armor not really for a heavy it’s big tall shape where the viewport is is flat and penetrable

Daaaang I just got 5.1k damage in FV4005 thinking that would be my new damage record but it still didn’t pass my actual damage record which was 5.4K damage in a Tiger II extremely impressive considering that’s a tier 8

[ocean goblet]

What is the tank on the right ?

It seems like pbr amx 50 100, but the pbr version is not in the game yet

[balmy compass]

Maybe a stock AMX 50 100

[wise moth]

Nice

[ocean goblet]

50 100 doesn't have a stock turret

[blissful cave]

Oh yea what should we do for tank of the day today

[wise moth]

It is just a 50 100 though

[ocean goblet]

it's not the same model, maybe the one from wot pc

[violet timber]

It’s literally just a 50 100

[forest anvil]

Will it be possible to see the American M1 Abrams on WOTB ?

[violet timber]

No…

[real gulch]

Anything past cold war era, no

[forest anvil]

If they've put in non-WWII tanks, it would be nice to see the M1.

[violet timber]

The M1 has the same gun as the M60, but with better armor, mobility, and munitions

[forest anvil]

Yes. And it's a very good tank

[violet timber]

You do realize the M60 is a tier 10, right?

[forest anvil]

Yes

[violet timber]

And you want to add in something better.., let’s use some common sense here

[forest anvil]

It's not adding anything better, just that I like that tank and if they've put futuristic tanks that aren't from the second world war, the M1 wouldn't be so little so bad to include it. I don't see what's the point of playing with the Anhilator even though it's a tank I really like.

[violet timber]

It’s literally flat out better than a current tier 10

[sullen gale]

This one is in world of tanks as a tier 7 german artillery

[amber geode]

We definitely need this goofy guy in blitz

[ocean goblet]

Do you know how the 50 100 look in blitz ?

[violet timber]

Yes

[ocean goblet]

Is the turret in this picture like the in game model ?

[violet timber]

Yes

[ocean goblet]

the neck (I don't know how to call the fix part) is really different

[undone star]

Thats just how the ratings icon image is edited

Its the same turret

[amber flume]

Im always here😉. We should dig into the p44 pantera

@blissful cave

[rotund sonnet]

fake tank, its wargaming what if italain went on and copied the panther

[rotund sonnet]

Waiter Waiter please more silly concept tanks

[real gulch]

I got some funny Frankenstein'd tanks

[rotund sonnet]

like this goober?

[rotund sonnet]

google drawings? oh

[real gulch]

Microsoft Powerpoint

Same with this being

[plucky summit]

We do a lot of trolling

[real gulch]

Dat MG tall bro

[plucky summit]

That's just how it is normally lol

[vagrant ridge]

what do u guys think about having M44 Tas in wotb

[lyric copper]

no one cares

[vagrant ridge]

someone always cares

[real gulch]

Russia hate short man

[lyric copper]

not really since all thier tanks have a height restriction

[rotund sonnet]

the fact their tanks were hella cramped

[real gulch]

Why the T-34 is succy:

[rotund sonnet]

early

[real gulch]

T-34-85 Crew space: Not gud

[violet timber]

It wasn’t that bad in the 85

[rotund sonnet]

better than the early model 💀

[violet timber]

My favorite tank is the AC-130

[real gulch]

Still better than a Ki-Ni

[rotund sonnet]

well it was a pre-war light tank its was pretty common

[real gulch]

Meanwhile the TOG 2:

[rotund sonnet]

dude thats a heavy tank :-;

[deep belfry]

I'm still waiting the day WG gives the Panther family HD graphics

[real gulch]

So?

[lyric copper]

Bret:

[rotund sonnet]

i said little tank

[real gulch]

Maus has no crew comfort either

[deep belfry]

Tech tree, not the baguette one

vk leopard received hd graphics a few months ago but none of the big cats

meh, I'll have to keep waiting

[verbal root]

Dude what

How is it lighter than a Med or light tank?

[lyric copper]

Swedish Engineering

[safe acorn]

It was meant to be their MBT with most of the weight coming from either the 105mm/120mm/150mm guns and the engine

[verbal root]

so Emil 51 is an MBT?

[safe acorn]

Medium ~ MBT
Around the likes of the Leopard 1 and AMX-30

[violet timber]

It’s part of the late era heavy tanks, lesser armor but punchier guns

[safe acorn]

Lesser armor is kinda
Wrong?

[violet timber]

Not really

[lyric copper]

armour makes no sense when the enemy can sling a LRP with 600mm of pen through you in a single trigger pull or even button press

[violet timber]

Late heavy tanks used more angled armor, but they generally had less thickness for the era. They were mainly about mounting a large gun that could counter enemy armored vehicles from a distance

[lyric copper]

^ think M103, Conqueror, AMX 50

[rotund sonnet]

no?

[safe acorn]

Yeah guess Emil was more medium than heavy considering the sides and rear were 30mm thick at max

[rotund sonnet]

you can actually stand up in it

[rotund sonnet]

Emil did have medium like things it was actually way faster irl

[safe acorn]

Really not sure why the turret has the same 30mm on the sides and rear as well
Considering the drum mechanism was there

[violet timber]

It’s simply not meant to be shot

Same reason most heavy tanks of the era had less than half the side armor than they had on their front

[safe acorn]

A giant leopard 1 with a huge 150mm cannon
I can dig that

[rotund sonnet]

its not like wotb getting hit from the sides werent as common as you think

[violet timber]

If you were getting hit from the sides, someone somewhere didn’t do their job properly

[safe acorn]

My monkey brain when it knows when to switch to HE and abuse the living hell of people that use lights

[violet timber]

Especially considering heavy tanks were meant to be behind the mediums, providing fire support from a distance

[violet timber]

Wdym? WoTB is a hyper realistic simulator game of what actual tank combat was like

[lyric copper]

#bringbackMTmeta

[violet timber]

#GiveTier9HeaviesStupidAccurcyBecauseHistoricalAccuracy

[wise moth]

Well that someone is probably the tank commander. Thick front armor can only be utilized from a distance

[violet timber]

Either the TC or scouting units not properly checking where they should

[safe acorn]

But in all seriousness
WG had given Emil some mercy
I'd wanna see that mercy off if it comes to the funni "realistic" game

[violet timber]

And then there’s the towers that the conqueror and M103 used for their tank commanders

[safe acorn]

I cannot find a good place to balance it besides below 8.0

[lyric copper]

if it’s the Emil 1, give it the stock 100mm and place it in like 7.X or something

[silk marsh]

any advice on how to get the best out of the IS2 shielded? felt like it was a major disappointment

[safe acorn]

7.0 probably

7.7 is a bad idea since you're more or less facing more IFVs on the uptier

[safe acorn]

Have you played the regular IS before?

[silk marsh]

nope, KV1 , 1S and 3

[sleek apex]

You play it like the IS/IS-2, fight in close range and find spots to hide your lower plate (like a pile of rubble in Himmelsdorf), keep in mind that you have a large cupola so rock the tank back & fourth or go back to cover during reloads.

[safe acorn]

He doesn't know that tbh
Better link it with the KV-1S but more armor
Still play passive tho

[silk marsh]

both are great advices, thanks

[safe acorn]

Yk I wished they kept the old long reload of the 122mm D-25T for more pen across the board and make it have Prem AP than APCR

AP >> 190mm
Prem AP >> 220mm
HE can remain the same

[blissful cave]

Made my friend an ARL 44 this is a different I have a small ARL I made for myself not long ago
ARL 44 is his favorite tank

[sleek apex]

Cool, may i ask how much does the 3d prints cost you usually?

[safe cedar]

Theres actually more to it

[blissful cave]

25-30$ they’re actually not bad price (1:48 scale)

[safe cedar]

Due to the nature of occilating turrets the weight has to be properly balanced for the turret to properly function & occilate. Hence why most have comparatively thin sides.

Regardless any hit from the side was a death sentence anyways

[sleek apex]

Yep that doesn't seem bad compared with the model kits

[blissful cave]

Yea the kranvagn in 1:32 was 37
Average 1:35 model kit for a good size tank is like 50 bucks

And these 1/43’s I have are about 40-45 so they’re not bad price compared to real models and it’s perfect for getting tanks you can’t get models of

Like all the famous ones like Pershing,T-34 and Churchill and stuff I can easily find models of them of course but random things like T57 Heavy,Caliban or Kranvagn I’m able to get those by 3D print

Shiet never did tank of the day yet

[sleek apex]

Nice collection

[blissful cave]

Have you seen the full tank collection 😏

[sleek apex]

Not yet lol, only those 3d prints you send here time to time

[blissful cave]

Here it is
+1/16 custom RC Sturmi and the new 1:32 Kranvagn and Strv K

[blissful cave]

Next ones I’m thinking of getting are IS-7 and T95 tanks I’ve wanted models of for a long time and with my order I’ll ask if the guy would be able to make a render for Tornvagn I would so buy that it’s my favorite tank

[sleek apex]

Nice

[sleek apex]

Funny how in the image the caliban is pitch black lol (i see the explanation about the color few messages above though)

[blissful cave]

Yea it’s supposed to be a reference to STT mock-ups

[sleek apex]

I see

[blissful cave]

But the thing is I have a 1:48 Caliban I just got in the mail that I’ll paint realistically but idk what tho
(There was a whole thing where I was sent the wrong scale and the guy said I could keep the small ones and he’ll send the right ones)

[sleek apex]

What if you try painting it like the camouflage in FV 183 Hammer & Chief/T95 Heritage?

[blissful cave]

That’s a good idea but probably not black since I did that for the small one
I was thinking somewhat tactical colors like green light brown like you know usual camo color

[sleek apex]

Ah okay i see

[blissful cave]

And I’ll see if I can try to do mini mesh net
Basically make it like T34’s camo if you will

T95 and IS-7 when I get those will probably be simply dark green for 95 and black for 7

Tank of the day BC 25t

[safe acorn]

Explain boy-o

[blissful cave]

In short it’s basically a bigger version of AMX 13 only two were built

[safe acorn]

I could do a detailed analysis whenever you post smth

If ya want ofc

[blissful cave]

I already posted

[rotund sonnet]

i want caliban nuclear shells

[safe acorn]

Wait for the BC?

[safe cedar]

Why do you have to show the ugliest state of it?

[blissful cave]

Dw I made the thumbnail the restored version

[safe acorn]

Currently in the Saumur museum I believe
Found it on a Reddit post

[safe cedar]

Dont forget the artillery version that was built

[blissful cave]

The what?

[safe cedar]

The. Artillery. Version

[blissful cave]

Wait i think I found it is it this

[safe acorn]

Wouldn't be surpising

[safe cedar]

heres what remains of it

[bold cedar]

restore it or nah??

[safe cedar]

It would have to be bought first

[safe acorn]

Surprised Saumur hasn't got it yet

[bold cedar]

yea

[safe cedar]

Im 90% sure its privately owned.

[safe cedar]

Saumur can barely get funding for new paint.

Much less new acquisitions.

[safe acorn]

Sucks to be them

[bold cedar]

what are they even using that for lmao

[safe cedar]

Scrap metal

[bold cedar]

makes sense actually

[thorny smelt]

Are those supposed to be built as SPGs?

[safe cedar]

Yes

[thorny smelt]

No wonder they look familiar

[safe cedar]

They are

[safe cedar]

French tier 8 & 7 respectively.

The only remaining vehicle built on the Lorraine 40t chassis.

[obsidian mirage]

Tier 9?

[thorny smelt]

Yeah

[halcyon lotus]

is this lorraine 50t from wot pc?

[thorny smelt]

Yes

[rotund gull]

Its a BP Tank from PC but is shitr

[rotund gull]

Panzerartilleriekanone 68 (15.5 cm Art Pz Kanone 68), Bulit 3 Tanks only still 2 Tanks.

[rotund gull]

The P44 locks like little bit of the Tas 44 project from Hungary

[blissful cave]

I haven’t done a Hungarian tank of the day yet

I have a friend who lives in Hungary and he HATES when I talk about tanks I send him Hungarian tank history sometimes and he’s like “I don’t care”

[safe acorn]

From experience I'd rather not continue

[blissful cave]

I explain tank lore to anyone who is willing (or unwilling) to listen

[sleek apex]

I agree with Russkan, if i am on your situation i would just understand that he's not interested to such stuff, forcing it to him would just annoy the person.

[blissful cave]

The thing is it’s mainly that I talk about tanks constantly in my OWN discord server
The thing where I send Hungarian tank history is rare

It’s like bruh you’re in my server all my other friends are fine with it

[sleek apex]

Oh so the said friend is on your discord server, i assumed it was irl which in that case is understandable

And can i join your server lol, seems like a nice place for tank discussion

[blissful cave]

I did get to see my one irl friend today after like 6 months that was great : )
I gave him the ARL i made for him I showed up there

[sleek apex]

Ig have some off-topic channel (if there isn't already) and make a separate role for ToTD posts instead of mentioning everyone

[blissful cave]

It’s like a friends gc and not very active anyway it’s just where we talk about our interests
Only here people know what I’m actually talking about

When I go off about stuff like these weirdos

I’m thinking should I kinda go for Strv 81 if Kpz 70 Porsche won’t be released for who knows how long

I’d have time to kinda get some gold back or something and if I really have to just buy some gold

[flint glade]

I always thought that since Blitz thought of putting the AMX M4 as a pickup tank, being a line tank in wot console and wot pc, I thought that the Lorrarine 50T, which is a reward tank in wot pc, would become tier IX of the line in blitz and level IX of wot pc would become tier which we will never have, let me guess what's next... of course the OBJ 705A will surely arrive as a collection tanaue and in boxes just like the 277 and the same as the OBJ 430U and the same as the centurion AX thanks wargaming for thinking about the players of blitz and remove line tanks to make them premium

[harsh elm]

277 705A and AX are the most likely to become premium tanks i see

[flint glade]

yep it's obvious also remember that one day they will add the OBJ 297E and that day gg for wot blitz

[thorny smelt]

I would love to see how is Object 705A is implemented in this game considering that IS-2Sh's armor is utter trash compared to its PC brother, IS-M.

[harsh elm]

i mean the is-M and IS-2Sh are p much the same thing

[thorny smelt]

Yes. I know. They just named it that way so that one is for that game and this one for the other.

[raw spindle]

Is there a way to use skin mods?

I have the mod, but I can't install it

[misty wing]

just join the ninja kiwi server

[grizzled spindle]

If you in pc and android yes if you using ios no

[robust orchid]

I just noticed how the Caliban has far worse gun handling and performance than the T49 despite having a much longer barrel designed for conventional ammo unlike the conventional-gun-launcher of the T49 💀

[deep belfry]

How good is the Skorpion G?

[robust orchid]

Better than the SU-130PM but with a much higher profile because it's on a Panther Chassis

[subtle frost]

type 71 or e5 first?

[thorny smelt]

Go for T110E5

[subtle frost]

kk

m103 any good? if not id just free xp to the e5

[wary summit]

Workable, but takes a lot to make it work

[lyric copper]

opposite

the PM has more camo and gun depression

[honest rampart]

Nah it's someone preference.
Generally ppl tend to find the SU-130PM better, but I have both, and I can say that I like the Skorpion G more, because it feels a lot faster, has better DPM, fires APCR and has a 180 degrees gun arc

[blissful cave]

YO WHAT?! One crate?!
I just got two crates from the WG site and got it let’s gooooo FALLERA!

[lyric copper]

now the budget for the Kpz 07P has been increased lol

[blissful cave]

No gold was spent since I did the 2 for 5$ on the site let’s gooo😎

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-pool-gif-9491674

Now we just gotta wait until the thing is released God knows when

Oh wait that also means I keep my crown of having every Swedish tank in the game
(Except turbo but I don’t want to count that one it’s a BP reskin and an hideous one too)

I really hope the next tech tree is just one of the Swedish ones every other EU got a second one
Strv 103 or UDES 15/16

[lyric copper]

sadly they won’t

[blissful cave]

Not even UDES? They can’t just leave us at only 1

[lyric copper]

they could do a line to the Ikv 91 instead

that or new tier 10 premium

[valid gale]

There is nothing stopping them from adding bandkanon 1C in a 4005 situation

[lyric copper]

that too would be interesting

[valid gale]

3 shot limit and hull wise non existent and wouldn’t even be fast as it was developed directly off the krans hull interesting enough

It is also capable of direct fire

[lyric copper]

also weak ammorack would be funny

[deep belfry]

What's good about the tank? Ive some encounters with it and the chassis is quite easy to penetrate

[solemn gale]

Actually it seems odd that Titan Mk. I was offered in one event a few years ago only and left behind yet design looks cool as I think.

[ebon helm]

Hey guys,Which tank do you like to play with the most 🙂

[rotund sonnet]

Which also was copied from the panther

[silver spire]

T92e1, vk 36.01, Charlemagne, su 100y, kv 1s

[safe acorn]

IKV-91-105 would be a sweet Tier X Swede LT

Also would be great to have Ontos as well

[honest rampart]

eww sealclubber

[sleek apex]

Thats lucky, congrats! I also want the tank but i ain't rolling the dice for it, i'll just wait for direct tank offers.

[verbal root]

All the Emil's and centurion

[blissful cave]

Haven’t gotten to try it out yet I got it when i excitedly checked the shop at like 3 am when I was getting some water so when I try it I’ll tell ya

[blissful cave]

Strv K,Tornvagn,T30,T95 Kranvagn but I mainly like to jump around a lot I love playing variety but those 5 are like the most fun to me

[kindred wren]

Leopard 1

[blissful cave]

XM66F Cobra Super Conqueror and Charlemagne are really fun but I got those recently so I haven’t gotten to play those as much

[sullen cloud]

@blissful cave do you have the camo for tornvagn?

[blissful cave]

If it’s the robot dinosaur one I sold it because I hate it didn’t even activate the certificate
I use the solid dark green one for credits it’s my favorite camo in the game and wish I could use it on more than just EU tanks also hunter markings is my favorite too I use that as my winter camo for it

[zenith shadow]

Tornvagn could have had a better skin than some stupid stego dino camo

[blissful cave]

I knowwww we could’ve gotten some cool Viking or realistic thing but nooo wargaming had to appease the iPad kids and make robot dinosaurs

[lyric copper]

dinosaurs are cool tho ngl

[blissful cave]

Dinosaurs yes I like em and my cousin loves em as much as I love tanks
But in a tank game AND robot ones yeah no

[zenith shadow]

Dinosaurs are cool and i like them. But it doesnt fit a tank skin unless its something cool

[molten pumice]

Whats your opinion on the kv 5
I just got it from a mystery cert

I heard that the armor is really strong

[zenith shadow]

Kv5 is good

[zealous summit]

Hi, I won the Charlemagne , and I m always toptier (90%). How know if a tank has a special MM

[dim pollen]

Yeah. Troll and strong both

[molten pumice]

Whats the effective armor on the thing?

[dim pollen]

Well no idea abt tht

I don't have the Armor inspector

[halcyon lotus]

kv5 is a good tank. it’s very effective at sidescraping and ramming

[molten pumice]

I have a few battles on it all i can say that its really strong especially if im not exposing myself too much
And the gun is really decent

[dim pollen]

All I can say abt KV5 is, whenever I'm trying to pen tht big turret, somehow it bounces.

And about the hull, well it's troll too.

The gun is avg. Nothing special. But u will get a lot of bounces

[violet timber]

Charlemagne doesn’t have preferential MM, you’re just in what’s known as the honeymoon period for a tank

[molten pumice]

The weakpoint on it from my experience is the little hatch on the top
Its pretty easy to miss tho

[blissful hamlet]

Just like the M103, althought you can hit and somehow not be able to pen it..

[zealous summit]

Thx for answer, ib 66k battles and more 300 tanks . It s first time I have a tank always top tier.

[sullen cloud]

@zenith shadow I know the dinosaur idea was fine but robotic?

[zealous summit]

Charlemagne has a special MM. ”’oney moon’’ is done since few weeks.

[rotund gull]

na they was the plan of Hungray to build his on Panther Version and yes it was a Copy from Deutsche Panther

[vestal ingot]

me figuring out i have to grind xp for stb-1 by playong its lower tiers : :(((

[mental delta]

how get sheridan missile

[molten pumice]

I think you cant get it anymore

[solid gate]

should i get pawlack tank or wait for something better?

[fickle lance]

Waif for something better, the armor is dogshit against tanks of the same tier

I only got it for the garage space

[harsh elm]

get it now because its a funny looking tank and you can probably get the next tank anyway

[fickle lance]

It does look pretty goofy

[rotund sonnet]

Hungary wanted license to build panthers german denied it and created their own

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is Strv 81

[blissful cave]

Heh guys look at this UDES 19 the closest we got to Tornvagn

[balmy compass]

silly tank

[blissful cave]

Or UDES XX20

Swedish tanks are my favorite

[balmy compass]

even sillier

[blissful cave]

But there’s also Abrams TTB which looks the closest but isn’t Swedish

[wise moth]

WG should honestly add that as a tier 8 light or TD. The Bofors Tornvagn gun on a leopard chassis sounds really fun

[blissful cave]

I just want to see more Swedish tanks in general
Swedish tanks and American question mark tanks are my favorites I want to see added
Aside from the big two of course (BT-42 and Neubaufahrzeug)

I really want the two Swedish tech trees but everyone is all like “nOoOoo tHeY wOnT aDD thEm”

Every other EU got a second one and I don’t even wanna imagine them getting a third before Sweden even gets a second one

[wise moth]

WG won’t add them, but that’s mostly because their devs are incompetent and can’t figure out how to do hydropneumatic suspension

[velvet monolith]

i kinda want a better japanese tech tree

[blissful cave]

For Strv 103 i don’t think it would be hard just have your tank tilt with you while using elevation/depression angles
And UDES 15/16 they don’t really have to

[safe cedar]

Atleast they aren't adding anti-ship missiles

[velvet monolith]

yeah

[blissful cave]

https://i0.wp.com/ritastatusreport.live/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/WorldOfTanks_h-2019-03-06-12-29-21-89.png UDES could be fine without it

[velvet monolith]

what is that?

[blissful cave]

Wot PC’s Swedish medium tech tree UDES 15/16 it’s basically like turreted Strv 103

[velvet monolith]

is that a SPG?

[blissful cave]

Medium tank
I just used that image to show it can move its gun so if the suspension is actually a problem then this tank doesn’t really need to have it
Unlike Strv 103 which NEEDS it because it was built around it irl it’s gun does not move

[velvet monolith]

would be funny i fhtey added the WT auf E100 for an event

but all the noobs would be playing it like with the is7 shielded

[wise moth]

Honestly with Grille being as useless as it is, they should just replace it with WT E100 anyway

[zenith shadow]

Either buff grille or replace it with something else.

Grille needs 750 dmg at least otherwise useless td.

[blissful cave]

I think it’s funny how much WG hates grille for no reason

It’s not broken like at all it has zero armor doesn’t do that much damage and doesn’t even get the HE proof item that FV4005 does

And I think has the least HP in tier 10

[wary summit]

It does get spall liner

[blissful cave]

Does it? Whenever I shoot HE at em I never really see it come up like 4005’s always run it
(I don’t have grille so it’s only based on what I see)

[wary summit]

I do

The Rhm and Waffle got it, why wouldn't the biggest HE magnet in tier 10 not get it

[blissful cave]

Because WG hates grille

At least grille is taking all the hits for us while my favorites like Kranvagn don’t have anything bad done to em

[misty wing]

Grille was one of the first tanks to get spall liner, you probably just played against some noobs that don't use any provisions

Also, it's actually in a better state than it ever was before imo

[blissful cave]

Made one for Question Mark tanks now here’s one for Sweden

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, Lago with APCR HEAT shells

[blissful cave]

Main ones I want are the two tech trees Strv 103 and UDES 15/16 and whatever this thing is I love it

It’s like trying to recreate Strv 103 made out of half a Tornvagn

[plucky summit]

12 shells, max.

[zenith shadow]

They hate it for absolutely no reason and if they do hate it why not they just delete the tank?

[plucky summit]

Because tons of people still play Grille

[zenith shadow]

They did replace wtf e100 with grille 15 on pc? They can probably find another replacement if they hate grille

[blissful cave]

People would probably panic at the idea that they can just remove tanks and rightfully so

Like even the 5.5 tanks they didn’t just delete them they just made them completely impossible to get and anybody who had em got to keep em

[zenith shadow]

Instead of fv215 there is badger on pc

[blissful cave]

I guess they did just delete the tier 1’s from existence like come on Renault FT-17 is like the most important tank in tank history (first tank to create the “tank shape” the ones before it were just the death tractors

[zenith shadow]

They did delete tech tree ms1

[blissful cave]

Bringing back all of em would be cool let me play Renault FT

[zenith shadow]

Idk why but they also deleted char 2c a french ww1 baguette tank. Could have been really nice tog competitor

It wasn’t on blitz but on pc

[blissful cave]

Lmao basically half the tier 1’s were just Renaults fiat 3000,R Otsu ,china Renault
But to be fair now they’re all vickers so yea
Finnish tier 1 would’ve been Renault too if EU existed back then too they had em and named em “Koira” (dog)

[zenith shadow]

Yeah they removed too many tanks off this game and making em collectors. Fully deleting tier 1s i dont get why tho..

[blissful cave]

Also can I just bring up how nice Centurion looks in dark green compared to the ugly default British color if only Britains default was a shade of green too instead of whatever this is supposed to be

[zenith shadow]

Thats new updated visual quality?

[violet timber]

No, Strv 81

[blissful cave]

The default colors
Strv 81 is marked Swedish so it has the Swedish default color

[zenith shadow]

:(.

Centurion needs love too fr

[blissful cave]

Cobra’s default is dark green even though it’s British and it looks NICE

Like I considered running it with no camo but I decided to use the Carbon black as a fun reference to its mock-up

[supple pulsar]

Hello WoT Blitz can you add a new camouflage for the BLTZ 9000 Making it the Blitz Taurus 9000

[rugged tulip]

If you dont think that the Foch is the best t10 td, youre thinking with your butt. The 500 damage is so op and you get two of them. they need to nerf it now!!!!!!

[violet timber]

It’s pretty average

[solid gate]

I need your opinions on the peak TD, the tutel, Jagdpanzer 38(t). I need your opinions.

[safe cedar]

You aren't thinking at all tbh

[unique hound]

You misspelled 183

[hard spade]

There should be a premium version of the e3. It would have no capula, the front would be more angeled, weaker lower plate, and a weaker gun but with more dpm

[violet timber]

So… like a casemate XM66

Or literally just the XM66

[valid gale]

No on hear out his idea who wouldn’t wanna rock an E3 with a 120mm worse armor ?

badger

[violet timber]

My bad, you’re right, I’ll hear him out

[harsh elm]

t110Extrachromosome3

[vast plume]

Hey guys, when you sell a tank right. And then you buy it back because you regret selling it. My question is, when you buy it back will it have all the upgrades you bought for it? Does the camo that you use on it also comes back with it? I'd like to know please. I regret selling the Tiger II. I didn't know how to use it.

[violet timber]

Any upgrades bought will stay, and camos unlocked for the tank will stay, everything will be exactly as you sold it except the ammo will be standard, no provisions and standard consumables, and no camo equipped

[vast plume]

Tank you!!!

[rotund gull]

💀 @blissful cave

[blissful cave]

Basically just that one tier 6 Chinese TD💀

[solid gate]

What do you know about the AT-series tanks of the fv215b 183 line?

[blissful cave]

That they’re real and FV183 is the true FV215 the heavy one isn’t real they just put a conqueror turret on it for the game

And that none of the AT’s were actually built only the Tortoise was

And I think FV 183 was the true 183mm concept FV4005 was somewhat of a compromised version seeing if it’s even possible to mount a gun that big

By making one out of an existing hull before building a tank entirely around it

And from FV4005 figured yeah it’s very difficult to make a tank with a gun that overkill work thus why it still holds that crown and a gun that big hasn’t been attempted again I think

[solid gate]

I see

[solid gate]

I find it a little weird that in that project the FV4005 has a turret that can rotate 360°, instead of being a casemate-like TD

[blissful cave]

I think traversable turret is something they wanted from the start since 183 has it

[solid gate]

Yeah but probably limited to some angle, like the FV183

[blissful cave]

Yea

Far rear turret tanks be like that

[valid gale]

Casemates were already recognized during the war to be outdated and post war all save E3 and the STRV 103 were to have turrets 183 was a solid idea but 4005 was most likely more plausible because construction would require the centurion hull that was already in mass production and had good maneuverability

[blissful cave]

WG PLEEEEASE add this to blitz it’s another love at first sight tank it’s so stupid I love it it’s just building a Strv 103 out of half a Tornvagn

[solid gate]

FV4005 seems like a very sturdy prototype thinking about it, a 183mm gun in a paper turret mounted on another tank's hull

[blissful cave]

This doesn’t have the Swedish suspension tho right? (Better not)
I just wish WG wasn’t too lazy about “nooo we can’t add suspension mechanic that’s complicated” just locking out out of most Swedish tanks

[solid gate]

I think it does, the cannon doesn't really seem able to elevate/depress

[solid gate]

Well, makes sense

[halcyon lotus]

what happened?

[valid gale]

Sold jpanther 2 by accident (how) now he can’t buy it back

[halcyon lotus]

do you have any premium tanks you can restore so that you can play them to get more credits?

[violet timber]

That’s not how it works

[halcyon lotus]

you can restore that and play that tank for a couple of games to get your credits back

which panzer?

[thorny smelt]

Where are your premium tanks?

[halcyon lotus]

bruh

[thorny smelt]

Bad financial decisions. YOU DESERVE IT.

[safe acorn]

Thing is that turret ain't gonna do any favours unless it's below HMG fire

That's why it's only a test bed for the FV215

[solid gate]

its there so it does not rain on the commander's tea

[safe acorn]

It does have Siege mode

[turbid yacht]

I can help you

[solid gate]

Why should i help you lol.

If people cant go sure if the tank offer is good or not then simply dont buy it lol

Type 95 is in shop now.Is it a tank worth buying or not?

[solid gate]

T14 worth the money?

[wary summit]

Nope

[plucky summit]

😐

Bro fr threatened to quit a game in order to beg

[valid gale]

In honesty I did the quit the game when I lost my panther 2 I grinded a whole month for in 2015 because I didn’t register

[solid gate]

Is Astron rex good?

[solid gate]

That Noob...

[hallow lava]

Guys which is better? Obj 140 or T-62A?

[halcyon lotus]

pretty good vehicle

[mellow glacier]

is the t-34-3 a good tank?

[raw spindle]

It is work to grind fv 4202?

[molten pumice]

Just delete your message?

[solid gate]

Bro ur brain

[median snow]

💀

[safe acorn]

He ain't the brightest in the room
But at least hes in the room

[crude ivy]

not bad tank 👍

[upper nimbus]

What union in Wotb you like

i like american , japanese , and china

and france i like the amx

[raw spindle]

It is work to grind fv 4202?

[jaunty vale]

when will t55a become collector

[sleek apex]

After the next update (Jan. 24)

[solid gate]

That thing is terrible.Burn the phone you made this picture on and bath in holy water for the rest of your life

Is one of the tanks aviable in the shop rn worth buying?

[crude ivy]

🔥🔥🔥

[keen harness]

Buff wz 132 1

[safe acorn]

It already has been buffed wym

[pastel kiln]

💀

[sand prism]

It's a fantastic tank if u play it correctly wdym

[dull maple]

How about Tank destroyer??
Like StuG III G??

[blissful cave]

Tank of the day what’s it gonna be
Yesterdays was Strv 81

[dull maple]

Noice!!

[wary summit]

Strv 104

[blissful cave]

Strv 104 has been done

I do wanna know if this thing is real ill be back in a second

Haven’t found anything

[wary summit]

Have you done one with the Stingray?

[blissful cave]

No? What’s that?

[wary summit]

Supposedly a successor to the Sheridan as a light tank, didn't get much support within the US but garnered favour with the Siamese Armed Forces

[lyric copper]

Ikv 91

[blissful cave]

I think I’ve done ikv 91 but I think I’ll do stingray I looked it up and I’ve never seen this tank before

[lyric copper]

you havent

[blissful cave]

I have

[vast plume]

Are there any Chinese tanks that are good? I don't like TD's. I suck at medium tanks. I rush too often and get killed easily. That's why I play better with heavy tanks. They're slow and forces me to be patient. Unlike mediums and light tanks. Are there Chinese tanks worth a damn? Thanks.

[lyric copper]

the 113G TD is great

the 121 is good

the 113 is workable but was nerfed from what it used to be

the 132-1 is niche and works better specifically in 1vs1 supremacy endgames

[vast plume]

All right ima check them out my friend. Tank you.

[vast plume]

The 113 looks nice!

[lyric copper]

the 113G is basically a top 2 tier 10 TD

the Chief Mk.6 and T95E6 to be better than the 113

[sand prism]

Bz 75 will be decent aswell

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is the Stingray

[vast plume]

I'm gonna make it my goal to get the 113. Thank you for the info.

[ember yarrow]

play light tank as an assasin, spot, shoot, hide, if ur targeted, go somewhere else, its okay to waste 1-2 minutes driving elsewhere, dont force to trade hp, t9 and tx have very useful mechanic not broken, but need brain power
chinese med, need brain juice, choose to play passive or active until mid to late game(go back to t5-t8 to feel each phase of battle), BE AWARE of your minimap
chinese ht, go with team, dont be the first, fight side by side with your team, if you cant find a spot to shoot, then go else where, no need to force it, you have good mobility, not great, just good, USE IT. brawl mid-late game
chinese td, need brain power too, same strat as normal td, but u have good mobility to go around, heck, in some map you can cycle mt side and ht side.
here one more tip: save your teammate, then use them to tank shots for you

oh, its applicable mostly to t9 and tx, if ur still grinding, enjoy the journey and learn more about map positioning, awareness and player psychology. that's if you want to increase your wr and having a good time

[valid gale]

Stingray was developed for exports rather than home forces I talked about the US’s absurdity when it came to light tanks

[blissful cave]

Yea it looks like Thailand is the only country to use stingray

[valid gale]

Stingrays turret was also compatible with the bulldog chassis interestingly enough

I have the photo somewhere but it even rotates

[wary summit]

Modularity is such a fun thing

[balmy compass]

Blursed

[blissful cave]

Is anyone able to find anything on this tank being real I’ve tried but everything I found in a few google searches is just game related
If you’re able to find anything let me know I love this thing and am hoping it’s real

It’s just a funny stupid little thing that’s just a Tornvagn Strv 103

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave Welp the guns definitely reminiscent of the one IKV-91-105 has

But it's a 120

Searching it up on Google the name means
Light Combat Vehicle 120

Would probably be fake at this point

[blissful cave]

Really hoping it isn’t I want this thing to be real so bad maybe it’s just usual WG and making up names

[safe acorn]

The gun exists tho
Came from here

[safe acorn]

Yeah because Light Combat Vehicle doesn't make sense in Swedish tank terms

[blissful cave]

From the real vs fake tank list thing I’ve found that pretty much nearly every tank is real except few new tech trees but a loooot of tanks have fake names

So I actually kinda trust WG now that a tank is leaning towards real unless proven fake (but won’t assume unless I have proof it’s real)

Better than “assume it’s a flat out fake until someone is like @ quest look at this”

[balmy compass]

How real is the Annihilator lol

[lyric copper]

I mean, it’s a very feasible design

high chance if the 103 saw wider adoption, the Swedes may have thought it necessary to equip it with a 120mm instead of a 105mm

[peak kraken]

yes, you need work quite hard for it to work though, it needs some buffs to stand with the other lights, more gun depression, or the increased fire resistance , etc

[sand prism]

A skilled player can easily make it work. But yeah, I think it just needs more gun depression

[blissful cave]

Yoooo?

[peak kraken]

yeah, for a light it needs at least 7, but 6 like other chinese tech tree tier tens would still better than the abysmal 5...
and not many r skilled enough to use it.. reason why you see so many people saying it sucks

[blissful cave]

Gun placement is a little different tho

[safe acorn]

As real as JFK jr coming back to run for presidency

[safe acorn]

That and the 120mm from the Udes XX20 don't seem big at all

[safe acorn]

Could be using that 120mm

[peak kraken]

wym buff, it got decreased dpm for increased alpha, most ppl would prefer the dpm, the view range buff was good, but it didnt really need that

[safe acorn]

WZ-132-1 never felt like it needed a buff to me
Tank feels alright all round since release

[blissful cave]

I’m looking through Swedish archives rn the site that has a ton of UDES concepts and even Tornvagn blueprints

[blissful cave]

Tester
Some people have it early for tank testing

Found this funky little guy but I don’t think that’s stridsfordon

[peak kraken]

personal opinion then ig,
but overall, a vast majority who play it (even those who says its good, ie; in the right hands), do say it needs at least a depression buff.
gun depression and fire resistance are problems you frequently come across with it, the lower mobility is acceptable i would say, due to its mechanic.

[real gulch]

"You cannot stop me from cutting off turrets and putting guns in the hull and calling it a TD!" -Germany

[quiet kite]

thats one hell of n ugly tank 😂

[blissful cave]

Sweden intentionally designing turretless cheese wedge tanks:you guys are taking turrets off your tanks?

[blissful cave]

I like the stupid or weird looking concepts like this guy
Especially american question mark conference ones or Swedish ones

[quiet kite]

kind of like the tornavagn 😂😂

[real gulch]

Ever seen early interwar and WWI designs?

[blissful cave]

Yup Tornvagn is my all time favorite tank the best one

[quiet kite]

frl, specially the camo avering 85 percent in it

[blissful cave]

No not the camo especially not the camo they did Tornvagn dirty with this robot dinosaur nonsense

My beloved💛💙

[quiet kite]

this is standing at the top of my list 🤷🤷

[mint shoal]

Is the T6E1 Grizzly a good tank

[real gulch]

No

[blissful cave]

Funky fact it’s real (if you didn’t know yet) armored archives has a good video that explains all the details about its concept

[mint shoal]

I have 3 tier 5 tanks. T6E1 Grizzly, Hetzer and the SAu 40. What is the best one or should I get to a different tier 5?

[quiet kite]

ive heard, im so fed up with the HE just never connecting 😭

[blissful cave]

I asked the 3D print site I get my models from if they could make a Tornvagn one I’d so buy it in the biggest size

[safe acorn]

Tbf it's a Chinese tank
You don't ask for depression or fuel tank module hp from them

[real gulch]

(I am joking) Yo new prem/collector TD just dropped:

[verbal root]

I want the tornvagn on my Sweden tank collection anyone knew where wg will bring it up again? (Store or watching tourney reward)

[peak kraken]

There are chinese tanks with 7 degree gun depression.
And just because its a chinese tank doesnt mean it has to suffer very bad gun depression.

T100lt is a soviet tank, yet it has the best dispersion factors when moving and good dispersion, although soviet tanks are said to have bad gun handling

[mint shoal]

I have 3 tier 5 tanks. T6E1 Grizzly, Hetzer and the SAu 40. What is the best one or should I get to a different tier 5?

[peak kraken]

You're deliberately trying to remove any claims to its most obvious and unavoidable downsides

[verbal root]

How to effectively deal with tornvagn?

[mint shoal]

Uh I'm not trying avoid the downsides and I have not heard of tornvagn

So what tier five should I go for

[languid crane]

wats the slowest tier 5 tank?

[real gulch]

Best bet is going for Heavies

[mint shoal]

The herzer for speed and reloading

[languid crane]

go for da biscuit cmon

[mint shoal]

What is the biscuit

[verbal root]

Go for black prince

[languid crane]

it's the amx

[mint shoal]

I have the first and

[languid crane]

that's so gae

[mint shoal]

Isn't the black prince a tier 7 or something.

I don't understand the way you type dvt.

[safe acorn]

So what you want the WZ-132-1 to have 7° of gun depression just because you can't deal with it?

Ey on that note why don't we give Obj 140 and T-62A 10° of gun depression as well

[languid crane]

wb the leo 1 ;-;
giv it back that 1 degree of gun depression ;-;

[safe acorn]

The 132-1 has enough positives to make up for the lack of depression and on movement dispersion
Idk why you want it to be buffed even more

[languid crane]

fr

[onyx raven]

The Leo’s insanely good RN. Probably the second best med right now after the STB, certainly doesn’t need that single degree of GD back.

[languid crane]

not rlly since e50m can just straight up play aggressively n brawl with sum hts n most mts but ofc it lacks in the dpm n mayb a bit of speed

[onyx raven]

The Leopard 1 has the single best gun on a Tier 10 med coupled with LT-level view range and good mobility. The E 50 M is good, sure, but the Leopard 1 is more maneuverable and excels at mid-to-long range combat.

[languid crane]

yea true

but for example u put a e50m n leo1 to brawl out in mayb desert sands e50m will win
but I get wym

[rotund sonnet]

Soviet mock up of the strv

@blissful cave BTW not sure if you're aware but there's a online Swedish archives

[blissful cave]

Yea I’ve tried looking through some of em found some neat UDES tanks that kinda look Strv 103 like so close but not one that looks like that may be it
These two especially the second are the closest so far

[eager oasis]

pinged here smh

the benjamin

[ruby magnet]

There should be a halo or doom special camo

I mean look at them they're practically tanks

[safe acorn]

That and there's a COD BO3 based skin already for the E-50M

[valid hound]

Pls give the t34 1 more armor

[tidal quail]

Ok I'm gonna be honest here, after playing a few matches in the t34 Rudy it needs some balance changes pretty badly starting with armor it needs more of it since it's in tier 7

[valid hound]

Can we get this in wotb pls

[solid gate]

Ok hear me out FV215b (183) with Black Prince’s reload

[safe acorn]

It do be an uptiered T-34-85

[blissful hamlet]

It's a T-34, giving it armor buffs won't make a difference

[safe acorn]

There's so many UDES designs but all use the same 120
So yeah I guess the Latt Stridsfordon is likely the Udes 11

[quasi wedge]

268 or Ho-ri ?

[solid gate]

no

[amber leaf]

hello, is there like a list with tanks that have unique consumables?

[tidal quail]

It's just not realistic, an e8 can clear the front of an angled t34 it's just a little underpowered

[sullen cloud]

@blissful cave the tank museum has a video on the strv 103 tank?

[tidal quail]

Go to Google they've got a decent selection of strv 103 videos

[barren zodiac]

Is there a changelog for tanks right now?

[tidal quail]

If you want something a little more specific, on youtube there is a guy called weapon detective he's got a good video on the strv

[solid gate]

fv215b line from tier 7
T57, French T7-10 autoloaders
most Paper armor TDs

[cursive needle]

Hi hello what's the best equipment for caliban? If I may ask ty

[vast lake]

u should have got lorraine fearless

[onyx raven]

Any Leopard 1 player with half a brain will beat an E 50M in a 1v1.

[lyric copper]

assuming the E50M is brainless yes

[rose heath]

which would u all go for, the yoh line or maybe something else. ive tried yoh before up to tier 7 on my nintendo switch.

[dapper violet]

Yoh

[onyx raven]

Are you new to the game? Go for something else.

[rose heath]

yes and no. ive got about probably 200 hours in the game in total. but this is a new account as this is a new pc and i didnt have an account on steam

not like its hard to grind out tbh

neither of those are in this tree i dont think?

lol

[blissful cave]

Yees WZ-122-4

[vast plume]

Is the Chrysler K a concept tank or what's up with it? I love that tank. However, my stats with it are super laughable. Poor tank.

[blissful cave]

I love being put on the dumbest teams bro my FAVORITE I love getting over double the damage of 2nd place on the team and having half the team do barely anything at all just put me in another game with them I’ll be fun this time I swear

(I am going insane)

[vast plume]

Bro that happens to me all the time. Like I just mention. I have great games on the Chrysler but end up with teams that barely get 500 hit points or less. If you think you're going insane then I must be as crazy as the joker or something because I get it all the time!

[solid gate]

Whats the best tier 9 in the game? Doesnt matter if its a tech tree or prem

[blissful cave]

Everybody obsesses over object 752 but I don’t really care for it I like T30 T95 and Cobra im really good with em

[solid gate]

T30, a upgraded t34 in tier 9, good tank

[lyric copper]

752 is the best

followed by the 50TPP, K-91, 50TP, IS-8, E75

[solid gate]

I think 12.5K gold for it is a good price

I got it for 12.5K gold, in a massive container, ive run out of luck prob

[blissful cave]

What should we do for tank of the day I was thinking T21 or a Swedish tank

[kindred wren]

Sounds nice, though if I may throw my proposal in, how about the wheeled recon tank AMX-10 RC?

Or maybe the wheeled recon tank Sdkfz. 234/2 Puma

Idk, I just have a weakness for wheeled recon tanks and vehicles 👀

@blissful cave

[blissful cave]

Show pictures of both

[kindred wren]

First is Puma, second is AMX-10
Source: Wikipedia

https://tenor.com/view/awww-blushing-stop-it-gif-8624350259229898023

Every time when I look at them I just go

[blissful cave]

I haven’t done a wheeled tank in looong time I’ve only ever done one being greyhound

[kindred wren]

I might have suggested that one too

[honest rampart]

Type 16 my beloved <3

[blissful cave]

If you did then probably greyhound was one of the suggested ones I didn’t know about it before researching for the post I don’t know anything about wheeled tanks

[kindred wren]

A fellow enjoyer of wheeled armoured vehicles!

[blissful cave]

Same with artillery I know little about em

[blissful cave]

Which of the two do you want me to do

[kindred wren]

AMX-10 RC

It has a few curious features, such as neutral steering (as if it has tracks)

[sullen gale]

Guys today i got Cobra, T54e2, and astron rex. Any suggestions on how to play them?

[blissful cave]

Cobra run calibrated you’ll be able to HESH pen tier 10’s its pen is amazing if I remember right you can even pen E-100 lower plate with hesh

T54E2 is simply an all rounded heavy it’s good at everything and it’s mobility isn’t too bad
ASTRON fire the 3 shells and use your fast speed to run and hide while reloading

[blissful cave]

And your standard pen heat is amazing you’ll go through everything (except spaced armor)

[pastel kiln]

Tank of the night: AMX 50

[sullen gale]

Yeah ive been running cali. 🅱️esh is very fun

[trail quest]

It’s the same size as arl lol, shorter boi

[honest rampart]

indeed :D

[valid gale]

Wait does the 10 RC have adjustable suspension?

[safe acorn]

I think it do (also morning lads)

Shame the RCR didn't get it's updated turret and gun

Apparently the CV90105 also used it

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is AMX 10 RC

[sullen gale]

Ok this was the full haul today. All the tanks in the bottom row. Any advice on playing these is appreciated👍

[blissful cave]

Daaang you got the secret cobra camo that’s cool
It came out with the old reliable one for the Christmas event and the only way to get the cobra cobra camo is getting it from the massive container

[sullen gale]

Oh wow i actually didnt realize that. Thats cool, i think that the one i got is lit. Especially the rp-3 rockets on the side of the turret. It reminds me of the cromwells they put rp-3s on in ww2. I did get this thing from a massive container. Im really happy it was kind of my favorite of all the vehicles in the container. The 🅱️esh is so hype.

[blissful cave]

The camo leaked along with cobra so I think this was originally supposed to be its legendary camo but the decision for cobra to be the vinnie jones tank was made later so they made the event one and then just slipped this one into crates

[sullen gale]

So i guess i’m actually really lucky then. Wow! Also this is what i meant abt the rockets

[blissful cave]

If I somehow got the camo for free I’d use it as my desert camo but even though I have the vinnie one I use mine with the carbon black camo as a reference to the mini scale mock-up of it I also considered keeping it default because the dark green looks amazing I wish all British tanks had that color as their default

[wary summit]

After tier 7, the Brits should have just olive drab as base camo

Kinda lazy to just copy the desert camo until tier 10

[blissful cave]

Starting at tier 6 id say so Sherman firefly and Churchill VII are in there

Tier 5 makes sense to keep the old one crusader and Churchill I were North Africa tanks
Sherman firefly and Churchill VII was like Normandy and other later mainland Europe stuff

[wary summit]

Yeah tier 6 seems more logical

[wild cape]

Best way to play obj 260 is to sell it

[robust orchid]

Anyone wanna identify what this....thing is? Or what it's based off of? 💀

[violet timber]

Looks a lot like the cc64

[wise moth]

Leopard 1 hull, but who knows what that turret is

[kindred wren]

The closest tank I can think of is the Leopard 2K

[safe acorn]

Idk why it reminds me of the Super M48

[plucky summit]

Bisonte C45

[solid gate]

Why did you buy Type 59

[honest rampart]

Bruh it's not that bad ;-;
Just because there are better options doesn't mean that it's bad

[honest rampart]

Nahhhhh, Bobject 260 is fine. Before 10.3 it was underpowered, but after it became just a good tank. Ofc it's not as fast as the T95E6 or as armored as the WZ-113 but it's something in between them and can perform quite well

[strong atlas]

what is the play stayle for t22 med

[lyric copper]

if people are looking at you, traverse the hull

[twin sentinel]

@wooden valley idiota

[rose heath]

is the E 75 TS any good?

[trail quest]

Yeah it’s fine, turrets a bit poopy at times but with enhanced and hull down people need premium to pen it otherwise it’s good

[grizzled spindle]

No Yes

[rose heath]

ahh. any tanks in the usa or german line to grind for? i know the e100 is new player friendly tho i dont need new player friendly tanks anymore

just gonna use this free premium over grinding the e100 for now.

[blissful cave]

Really want to get that tier VIII certificate because I have nearly every tank in there so I’m gonna get the tier 9 and have nearly every tank there so let’s gooo tier 10 babeyy

…wait these certificates are just credit compensation not the next tier up like lucky crates aren’t they

Yea I checked they are well piss there goes my great idea

[rich blade]

huh what makes u think otherwise

[blissful cave]

Lucky crates the ones that gurantee tanks if you get a duplicate it’ll give you a box of the next tier but these certificates just give you a buncha dumb credits

I have every tier 6 except 2
Half the tier 7’s (risky area)
And nearly all the tier 8’s in that list (if I buy back the sold ones like borrasque and WZ-120GFT)
And for tier 9 I’d either get a duplicate,Kpz 70 which I want or something like 752 which I don’t want but sells for gold
And tier 10 id get either a duplicate (gold),something I want like T95E6 and if I do get something I don’t like like badger i can sell for gold

[blissful cave]

Yoooooo I asked the 3D print guy if he could make Tornvagn and he did : D

[blissful cave]

Going through my rare tanks rn and trying to figure out which would be easiest to ace
But not even worth it tho I have skoda it’s just credits right?

[lyric copper]

yes

[blissful cave]

I can’t decide which one I should get with the model Tornvagn
IS-7 Strv 103 or Centurion I’d paint as Strv 81

[blissful cave]

My indecisiveness just got all 4 lmao

[blissful cave]

I want to do a Swedish tank of the day but which one

So far I’ve done Tornvagn Lansen Strv 74 81 104 103 Emil Strv K Kranvagn CV90120

I’m thinking maybe UDES 15/16

[solid gate]

Stridsvagn 103

[blissful cave]

Ah hei BT-42 miten menee

[wary summit]

Strv 2000

[blissful cave]

Gun depression go brrrrr

Todays tank of the day is Strv 2000

[blissful cave]

Sweden the masters of “make REALLY cool tank designs and then just not build them”