vehicles-discussion

[blissful cave]

And world of tanks crews coming back to life because I clicked the repair kit button

[halcyon locust]

its like a roof or something

[balmy compass]

Lol

[safe acorn]

Jumbos are technically pretty ok to deal with
Especially considering they share the same BR with the T26E5

[halcyon locust]

someone?

[safe acorn]

Last i checked it was 600

[halcyon locust]

aight imma buy it when it comes out

[tawdry crow]

how easy is it to ace from mitsu 108 to type 71

[safe acorn]

Try it yourself and see how it goes

[balmy compass]

You have to buy bush cosmetics with premium currency, which is extremely hard to come by

[tawdry crow]

@safe acorn i was more worried the mutsu would be map dependent

[safe acorn]

You underestimate the average pocket of a brainless WT plebian player

[balmy compass]

For free I meant, you can always purchase golden eagles with cash

[safe acorn]

The fact that i havent spend a dime on the game
And im halfway through Rank VI when YouTubers estimate that people quit after Rank 3 fills me with pride (even though im far behind my friends who started way later than me and sometimes i have an existential crisis on why i continue playing the game)

[shrewd fog]

ah yes the medium III , remember what 5.5 took from us https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfTanksBlitz/comments/kdsvr2/pre_55_tech_trees_for_all_nations/

[trail quest]

Wargaming be like f low tiers force the new players up the tech trees faster

[barren zodiac]

Which defender tanks are worth getting?
I Got amx right now is iz worth anything?

[lyric copper]

defender mk 1

thats it

[rich blade]

Very well summorized

In my opinion Defender Mk1 is far too underrated tho

[barren zodiac]

I thought so.... Is that Australian centurion better than defender MK 1?

[blissful cave]

Yea I got to experience that again I started the Chinese tech tree recently after not touching it at all
And with using no free XP or boosters (but do have premium account) I was able to get from 1 to 6 in like 2-3 hours

[lyric copper]

depends on situation

[blissful cave]

You can literally go from tier 1 to 2 (including modules) from one LOSING game

[barren zodiac]

Whats the difference other than RAAC is better looking

[blissful cave]

Defender is an autoloader you have a clip of 4 shells
Australian is single shot at a time

[lyric copper]

Def Mk.1 has greater burst which means it doesnt have to be constantly shooting for it to deal damage

[barren zodiac]

Oh... Well i guess ill aim for defender than...
Thanks

[blissful cave]

Australian does have better armor tho too

[rich blade]

Defender Hull is a lot weaker tho

[meager spindle]

no

[lyric copper]

pov: major skill issue

[frail egret]

Should I develop this ussr tank or should I develop my Churchill, j don’t know which better

[lyric copper]

dont go up the Obj. 263 line, or the churchill line, both leads to tanks that are hard to play for new players

[meager spindle]

of which you can pretty much half health other t8 meds and lights

[frail egret]

well I ain’t knew it’s a new account , I play since 5 years ago

[lyric copper]

2x320 = 640 which is around half of most tier 8 MTs HP

you have speed, a small size, and decent camo

you clip someone, back off or run away, and then repeat on the next guy you see

[frail egret]

I think I won’t develop the obj 263 line because I looked at the tanks but I also don’t know about the Churchill line. It looks decent but I don’t know

[lyric copper]

conq and 215b are not for mediocre players

[wicked thunder]

No why would you?

[lyric copper]

(they have a severe level of skillius issueum)

[meager spindle]

i pray for the people you get to HE in it

[blissful cave]

Almost forgot tank of the day
Todays tank is the TS-5

For some reason I can’t really find anything online for it but luckily that book of American heavy tank history and concepts has a whole section about TS’s and talks about the 5

(This plus the next one or two pages)

YOOO it was part of the “? Conference” which I think the previous two is that conference where the Yohs,AE,Astron and all the other scrimblo bimblos came from

[blissful cave]

You want to know what I think would be cool if they added more tanks from these weird series of concepts
Like another member of the Astron group or another one of these TS’s (TS-60 I’m not sure of yet don’t see it anywhere in here or information anywhere else)

Like they did all the Yohs (2 is in pc but not blitz) and I’m not sure where Yoh 1 is

And the Yoh line starts with pawlack but I don’t know if pawlack and Yohs are related irl yet

[blissful cave]

I would say it’s because they choose “the best looking one” but I probably just have a bias towards the one that’s in the game because I’ve gotten to see this one in detailed 3D fully as a “built tank” while the others I’ve only seen in this “minimalistic grey concept drawing”

But yeah you gotta admit Rex 3-6 are just…no

[stone garden]

Anyone knows this tank?

[native marlin]

add it to the game

[shrewd fog]

The tank Object 244 was developed at the Factory Nº 100 under the leadership of A. S. Ermolaev at the end of 1943. In February 1944, the D-5T-85BM was manufactured and installed on an Object 237, IS-1, receiving the designation Object 244 or IS-3

essentially is-1 tank but with 85mm and reduced roadwheels . https://thedailybounce.net/historical/object-244-the-original-is-3/

[stone garden]

Thanks

[harsh elm]

then it should he obvious that its the players fault and not the tanks

[scarlet coral]

Why no arty???

[meager spindle]

because we don't need cookie clicker in wotb

[scarlet coral]

Fair point…

At least add the EBR line

[halcyon locust]

which gun on rhm is better? 128mm or 152mm (Asking again bc i still like both)

[meager spindle]

152mm for HE memes, 128mm for more consistent accuracy

[native tide]

I love playing with the 350 Alpha damage gun I think is better

[wicked thunder]

Rhm doesn’t have a 350 alpha gun

[dapper violet]

They typed a little off of 460

[safe acorn]

Leopard 1 is nuts

[zenith shadow]

Next line im going for after i get vk.72

then ima get E50 and i should be done with german line

[wise walrus]

What book is this? I might have missed it but I’m curious

[zenith shadow]

Ima finish the entire german line. (Sold grille for jgpz cus i needed credits)

[blissful cave]

#vehicles-discussion message and there’s other books too like one on the Pershing and T20 series,light tanks,Sherman and mediums,MBTs there’s several I only have the heavy one tho

[wise walrus]

Thanks! I’m big into the obscure tanks so I know what I’m getting next

[safe acorn]

Most likely not

[glass light]

well , ive tried watched all streams tho

[burnt sequoia]

Is e100 a good tank?

[meager spindle]

if played well

[burnt sequoia]

What about tiger 2?

[balmy compass]

When played well

[dapper violet]

Is the wz-114 worth the net decrease of 5k gold

It has no side armor 😭

[halcyon lotus]

everything is good when played well

[wicked thunder]

Yes it’s worth

[plucky summit]

Don’t show your sides then

[burnt sequoia]

What's the perfect position for firing for tank tiger 1?

[plucky summit]

Where you can hit the enemy

[burnt sequoia]

I mean, when I shoot them, and they shoot me, it's always ricochet

[plucky summit]

Angling 20 degrees to the side keeps your sides (mostly) safe, but you have to beware that your cupola and upper plate can be penetrated

Especially if they shoot your upper plate with prammo

[burnt sequoia]

Ohh ok, thank you for the explanation, appreciate it

[plucky summit]

Buildings are your friends

[burnt sequoia]

Thank you

[wicked mirage]

why does the AE Phase 1 not have the reserve track

[winged sail]

guh??

[winged sail]

what?

[plucky summit]

Yeah, that's how tier 8 heavies work

[winged sail]

you are using a KV-5, a tier 8

which in blitz, has apcr that can still pen most of the tiger 1's face

are you using the wrong version

[plucky summit]

It was just an example

[winged sail]

still i am curious, how??

[plucky summit]

Stock gun, it just so happened to be that when I loaded the app

[winged sail]

ah

[meager spindle]

wg reverse logic

[shut tartan]

lol

[solid gate]

obj752 needs a balance change

[timid frost]

Which tank should I get first?

[balmy compass]

Panzer II

[timid frost]

Of the Nazis?

[balmy compass]

Well yeah, you could put it that way

[timid frost]

I want a final tank

[balmy compass]

Maus

[timid frost]

It's a bit slòw

[balmy compass]

E-100 if you want to go a little faster

[timid frost]

It's the same

[halcyon lotus]

T-62A or IS-7 then

[timid frost]

Thx

[halcyon lotus]

how’s the Maus rn? i’ve seen it being used a lot in tournaments

[wicked thunder]

It’s good

[halcyon lotus]

what are its pros and cons?

[wicked thunder]

Good armor and an okay gun, pretty bad mobility

[halcyon lotus]

i see, i may consider grinding it

[solid gate]

How should I position/play the E100 just got the E100

[plucky summit]

Sidescrape and trade, boys.
Sidescrape and trade

[sleek gorge]

Does someone know when the BZ gonna be released?

[shrewd fog]

lunar-chinese new year i guess since chinese hvys

[sleek gorge]

Thx cief

[safe acorn]

So anyways
Theres a prototype M60 with T95E6s gun and turret
Albeit the turret received a very different cupola

[gray temple]

At what time are the mystical containers updated?

[ancient iron]

so... refined gun or vert stabs on the T30?

[rich blade]

I personally run vstabs

[misty wing]

I like refined on anything that doesn't usually shoot on the move

[rich blade]

so u use vstab on no tank ? kekw how does that make any sense

[harsh elm]

as in he probably means tanks that literally sit in one position the entire game

[misty wing]

I use vstab on mediums

[deep swan]

Is this tank rare?

[thorny smelt]

No

[deep swan]

Ight

[winged sail]

i mean i dont see it often ig

[misty wing]

it's rare on the battlefield because it sucks

[halcyon lotus]

even if it’s a meme tank it still sucks due to that slow shell velocity

[blissful cave]

Yes I’m still waiting for that one it released in crates over a year ago and has never been for sale yet
Only time it was “directly available” after release was not that long ago it was in one of those paid events for like 400$

[hidden grove]

Just got my first t10, i have 5k gold left from buying a premium and i wanna use it for a legendary camo (2500 gold) 1) should i do it or it is a really big waste? 2) which one of these 2 looks better to you guys

[halcyon lotus]

don’t buy a camo, unless you really, really like the tank

[hidden grove]

Alr, ill put a sh*tty one for now

[halcyon lotus]

also imo the nord looks better, i just love its simplicity and pride for its nation. but i’ll give credit to the nidhogg camo for having a cool 3d look

[blissful cave]

The Swedish flag one looks nice
But the dark green credit one is absolutely amazing

[hidden grove]

Yeah i rly like the nidhogg cos it has that 3d on it. Also i am not swedish even though the swedish flag looks amazing, i am not partiotic for that nation. If it was for my country id def buy it without thinking

[pulsar temple]

i have been away for a while. is the t57 heavy still good?

[lyric copper]

yeah

[strange solar]

is this tank good?

[lyric copper]

not really

[strange solar]

ah rip

this ones pretty good though right

[wheat cloud]

Yes it is

Very potent thought silly looking vehicle

[strange solar]

i think the legendary camo looks rly cool

[wheat cloud]

fr it does. era will make any take look cool. but without a camo it feels like some weird hydroponics

[strange solar]

yeah i would 100% buy it if it werent 5500 gold

[wheat cloud]

oh damn yeah xd. wait for christmas 50% ig

[strange solar]

ah true

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is the Ho-Ro

(Artillery/self propelled gun built on the Chi-Ha)

[balmy compass]

Looks nice

[shy nebula]

I want

[dapper violet]

We must have all the troll howitzers

[solid gate]

I've been seeing that apparently every nation has two exclusive credit camos for their tanks?

[blissful cave]

Yea every country has two exclusive to them some are way better than others like the EU dark green one I wish I could have that on almost all my tanks

[delicate zinc]

does anyone know what equipment is good for the amx 30 1er prot?

[solid gate]

the Tree Bark camouflage?

[blissful cave]

Yea I absolutely love that one I use it on all my Swedish ones except Lansen because I have moose on that one

[solid gate]

Ah, this camo is sure nice, I use it in the 50TP and 53TP, the green tones on it were a good choice

[blissful cave]

I would LOVE to use these on my British tanks like chieftain FV4005 and Sherman firefly but can’t :/

[nimble forge]

oh thats ok

[halcyon locust]

can someone tell me why vickers light is bad?

but it has the best dpm of all lights?

[wicked thunder]

Because 140 exists

[meager spindle]

beat me to it

[halcyon locust]

the speed? the pen?

it has better pen than bc

[halcyon locust]

idk, i just know people prefer bc, still dont know why

[lyric copper]

greater burst potential on the BC + autobounce upper plate + spall liner

essentially put if you wanna play the Vickers Light, may as well play the Leo 1

[halcyon locust]

then is tvp t50 good?

[lyric copper]

it lost it all in 10.3

if you want a clipper in tier 10, get the BC

[halcyon locust]

ok im going for maus

[remote kindle]

?!?

[blissful cave]

We’ll never get Ho-Ro in the game tho : (

150 mm howitzer in tier III/IV💀

[lapis anvil]

Grille next- the spg

Also maybe the funni fast firing one instead. I can’t remember the name but it was British

[lyric copper]

Excalibox and MBT-80 when wg

[blissful cave]

Ho-Ro would be perfect for a low tier that connects to the Ho-Ri line like how the bigger tech trees like US and Germany have TD’s starting at tier 4 like M8 and Hetzer even after the removal of 5.5 tanks

[remote kindle]

@blissful cave they could give it awful aiming and shell speed. Like nightmare

[blissful cave]

If there’s more old real Japanese tank destroyers we could’ve had a longer line than just 7 and up (and of that line Chi To SPG is fake but I think Ho Ris are real)

The lower tier ones based on stuff like the Chi Ha like Ho Ro would be good for a tier 4 and 5

[safe acorn]

Theres Na To and Ka To to fill Tier VI and V

[blissful cave]

Yees they should do that too extend lines that start too high like EU would benefit from that we could truly have dedicated lines for each country

[safe acorn]

Wished we could have roach TDs

[blissful cave]

Or just separate the EU category once we have enough I’d say once a country gets their third line they split off and get low tiers too

Like let’s just say when they add the rinocerante line that would be Italy’s third so they break off and make their own tech tree and tier 1-5 we get new Italian tanks (which we should) we can finally get stuff like M13/40 and P40

[safe acorn]

I wished the quirk of Italian tanks is that their AP does more damage than theyre supposed to

[solid gate]

I wonder why the Italian TDs are so op at most tiers

[safe acorn]

que P40 having more HE filler than IS-2 while only using a 75mm

[halcyon lotus]

it’s just the SMV CC 64 that’s broken, Minotauro’s good, the rest are average or just plain terrible

[safe acorn]

Find Minotauro annoying to deal with
But once dealing with correctly its easy

[solid gate]

Wonder why so many people are doing it

Also weird that there are many 60TPs around, but I rarely see the other tanks of the line

[dim jasper]

The whole line isnt op, not even the t8

[vagrant topaz]

Did you know it's easy to ammorack pizza td

[remote kindle]

The T8 italian td is great, i would even call it op, armor is solid, gun is solid, only issu is the mobility but that can get behind as other stats are really good.

[vagrant topaz]

But somehow the player camp with it and it's suck.. got armor but camping instead helping hold the line with heavy yet the ammo rack position really easy to target

Crazy that bc can one hit Minotaur

[remote kindle]

That’s player’s fault not the tank, the tank is solid.

[plucky lion]

Tier 7 and tier 8 are the highlights of this line, the rest is just garbo or average, mino included

[blissful cave]

Ok so you know how I mentioned that thing earlier where I will try to work on a definitive list on every real vs fake design in the game?

So right now I’m almost done with tier 7 (going in tier order starting with 1 so there’s some order to it) and I’m only missing like 5 tanks that I don’t have an official answer for yet

Strv 74A2 (must prove that the French turret and Swedish hull were actually planned to be put together)
LTG
Kunze panzer
T-34-1
And the most interesting one screwing me the most…pawlack
Also DS PZinz Ive sort of come to the conclusion to mark as fake but I’m still hesitant with that one since I don’t feel like I looked hard enough

So according to wargaming a man named Leon Pawlack proposed this tank design and this is the only known image of it but the thing is I cannot find ANY source that isn’t them that mentions this tank at all

Something else I tried was trying to prove the man himself at least exists and tried googling his name Leon S. Pawlack and tried to see if I could find anything there

The only result is some ancestry-like result for someone by that name who did live in the US and was alive during WW2 but this is probably the biggest stretch I’ve gotten so far to try and prove a tank real

With this list I will try to assume as little as possible I must have solid proof it either existed or an extremely convincing lack of anything to assume it may be fake

With this one if it was only by word I would’ve definitely assumed fake by now but there’s an IMAGE of it but zero other mention anywhere of the tank or even Pawlack the person

[lapis anvil]

What about all the pancakes? Are they real?

[blissful cave]

LTG is one of the few tier 7’s I haven’t made an official conclusion for yet and I haven’t gotten to the tier 8 one or T-100LT

[blissful cave]

If anyone knows anything about any of these let me know also if you’d like to join this project thing let me know it’s SO fun

Foch guy helped with all the French ones even the tiers I didn’t get to yet I have an official answer for all of em

Pretty much what I got from what he told me Every single one is real except for
Borrasque but says it’s a fictional combination of real parts
AMX alt proto had a concept image of something that looks very similar but unsure if that’s it exactly
And AMX M4 54 having a small few unreal aspects but mostly real

[halcyon lotus]

any good medium tanks right now? meds i already own are M48 Patton, E 50 M, Object 140, T-62A, STB-1 and TVP T 50/51.

i’m generally looking for a medium tank that isn’t super fragile to play and not boring to play

[plucky summit]

Error: Two requisites conflict: ["isn't super fragile to play"] & ["not boring to play"]

[blissful cave]

Ok new discovery I found the only image of it but in high quality

[plucky summit]

Looks like me in 8 years

[blissful cave]

Do you guys think I should officially mark it as real?
I still can’t find any mention of this tank other than wargaming and for the life of me can’t even find anything about Pawlack the person which is making me even more suspicious

Like you’d think that by searching his name something would appear for someone who did something as big as design and propose a unique design for a heavy tank to the military in WW2

[plucky summit]

Modeled, perhaps, not produced

[blissful cave]

…oh my god are you kidding me
The reason that nothing appeared is because the game spells his name as Pawlack when his name is actually PAWLAK

Or this one post I found where people are talking about the tank say so at least but I did find out the guy is polish from what they’re saying

[blissful cave]

But typing in that still gives me nothing this still makes no sense to me

I think I found something

Looking up the name Leon S. Pawlak the result shows an ancestry link for the name in the 1940 census (population count) and shows that the result is for someone that is Polish I guess it’s something?

[lapis anvil]

Oo

[blissful cave]

Also why is there this much detail on a random person in the 1940’s it goes into detail like exactly what this seemingly random person did,level of education and address they lived in supposedly it says usual industry furniture but says that occupation included “private work” ? Am I just digging too deep to try and prove a tank real

Like come on I just wanna know if this guy really exists and if he made a tank design

[plucky summit]

WG doxxing xD

Though I guess they need some credit to use his tank concept

[blissful cave]

The site that has all this is ancestry it was one of the first results when I did the name and didn’t include the word tank just the name by itself

OH MY GOD NEW DISCOVERY I found this Wikipedia article that’s only in Polish for the name Leon Pawlak and I asked my mom who is polish if she was able to read it (I can’t read polish I only know Finnish as my second language but can understand a little spoken polish) and asked if it mentions anything about a tank or the US
And she said it doesn’t mention a tank but it says he did say something about war and 1945

So not 100% confirmed but I think this is it

But when I put it through google translate it only just said stuff about libraries and that’s it

Yea she read it again the only connection to war and 1940’s it has was something about the library being destroyed in 1945 WW2

[solid gate]

didn't America try to make a tank that shoots nuclear shells?

[blissful cave]

Should I just mark Pawlak real this image feels like it alone is already enough evidence to assume it’s real

But it’s just the more I try to prove it the more hesitant I am to just assume it’s real because like why is there ZERO information or even mention of the tank (outside of wargaming) OR the person

[vivid folio]

It's real enough for wotb

[teal minnow]

should I buy the Vk 90.01P now for 16k gold? or wait for a FV217 Badger offer

[wicked thunder]

Buy the VK

[vivid folio]

Tbh it depends on Playstyle

[teal minnow]

I like hulldown tanks that's why I wanted to wait for the FV217 badger
However, I want to explore side scraping tanks and I've searched for the VK90 on yt and reddit and all I can see is it's a good tank

[lyric copper]

no?

Use chieftain to grind credits

[umbral lagoon]

trust me just get sliver to buy fv215b
because Fv215b 183 gonna eat the sliver every game dont sell anything!!

[glad hemlock]

Is this tank good ? Is it worth the coin.?

[halcyon lotus]

good tank for its tier, it has a unique playstyle compared to other autoloading heavy tanks. but make sure to hide your hatches after shooting

[frail dagger]

@blissful cave i got the tornvagn, u have it?

[blissful cave]

Yea but night where I am and trying to sleep but in short i LOVE thr design and playstyle enjoy being invincible hull down

And would be my favorite tank if it was built but I still consider it my favorite since the concept is real

[solid gate]

It's weird how it actually takes some time between each shot

[solid gate]

Hi, what about T95E6? I don't have any tier x tank. 🥴

[halcyon lotus]

T95E6 is an outstanding tank, but it is definitely not for new players, especially since you don’t have any other tier X tank as it has no armor and does not share traits equal to that of a heavy tank.

For now I suggest to save your gold and look out for other fresh picks if they ever come out. My suggestions for premium tanks to buy are the Object 777 II (usually costs around 17-20K gold), T54E2 (usually costs 7-8.5K gold) and Chimera (usually costs 7-8.5K gold)

[halcyon lotus]

and also, since you’re a new player, I suggest to take your time in learning the game’s mechanics and strategies. don’t focus on getting more tanks, as the gameplay will never change, but as always I really hope you’ll enjoy your stay here in the Blitz community!

[mellow hare]

Any thoughts on the Strv K and the T95E6? I'm thinking of purchasing the VK 90.01 (P) but I'm not sure what other tank is worth getting

[regal zealot]

Strv K plays more akin to a medium than a heavy, while the Vk is a very solid tank to get.

It just depends on your playstyle imo; if you like sidescraping monsters, the Vk is a very good candidate, but if you want a low alpha high DPM heavium with pretty good mobility, the Strv is a nice tank to get, albeit potentially very expensive due to the Draws.

Personally, I went for the Strv K, as I've been interested in it ever since last Christmas. The Vk is pretty cheap to acquire ATM, alongside the T95E6, which is another excellent heavium candidate to choose.

[mellow hare]

how about the Object 268/4? In a tough spot since I like all of their playstyles

[regal zealot]

If you like all four, that's going to be a tough choice. Do you have any other tier X collectors?

[mellow hare]

none sadly, this is the first time I'm going to buy a Tier X collector

[regal zealot]

If you want to go for the Strv K, it can be acquired for the least amount of gold (extremely unlikely), or you may need around 27k gold to get it from the Draw (what I did)

Cost-effectiveness-wise, the T95E6 is the cheapest tier X collector you can snag.

[mellow hare]

pretty tough as well, I could either buy two Tier X's that are very good or one that I fell in love with at first sight

as soon as I saw the Strv K I knew I wanted it even if it was average at the time

[regal zealot]

So you had your eyes initially on the Strv?

Go. I did the same thing when I first saw it in the Christmas event last year. It's a tough drive if you're not used to playing with heaviums, especially with a lower alpha gun, but it won't matter if you enjoy such a playstyle.

Buuut, since you don't have a collector just yet, I'd recommend you to get two of the three featured tanks, as it's still far too expensive for low spenders to get.

The Obj 268 V4 is a solid tank destroyer, but you need to ensure that you are facing your enemies, otherwise the cheeks are easily penned.

The Vk is a very solid tank now. If you enjoy the Vk 45.02 B, you'll definitely love the Vk 90.01 P. 10° of gun depression on the side, solid armor frontally and in a sidescrape, and combat stabilization to boot.

The T95E6 is a mobile heavium with a slightly punchier gun than the Strv. Its low profile and mobility allows it to bounce some shots with ease, but the cupola and sides are very weak. Play this as a flanker.

[mellow hare]

yes, gonna list down bullet points since I have a lot to say

Object 268/4 - Always been appealing as I love playing aggressively and holding down flanks

T95E6 - Loved heaviums on PC and it's apparently good but other than that it never really looked interesting to me, just another oddball experimental American heavy. Cool but pales in comparison

VK 90.01 (P) - Appealed to me from the get-go as a side-scraping heavy with a lot of armor, absolutely loved the Vk 45.02B when I got it as well even when stock

Strv K - The one tank I wanted from the get-go besides the 268/4, sentimental as well since the Kranvagn was my first ever Tier X. Have a good friend who's a Swede as well

[regal zealot]

How much gold are you holding ATM?

[mellow hare]

I have enough for the draw or two of the featured bois rn

[rich blade]

E6 is at a very good price rn, same for VK, if you dont rly want those, I would wait for christmas auctions, but it will probably not get any more cheaper for E6

[regal zealot]

So roughly 30-35k gold.

[rich blade]

I mean I personally wouldnt recommend Strv K when there is E6 for that low

[mellow hare]

aye, based on the cost of the draw I'd have enough no matter what. It's just the T95E6 is here rn as well

[regal zealot]

At this point, just go for your gut feeling, it's your own choice then. Two solid tanks or a tank that you really wanted.

[mellow hare]

I'll just go for the Strv K then, the other tanks are good don't get me wrong but the Strv K is just so appealing

[teal minnow]

strv k or vk 90.01p?

[wise moth]

I’d go for the 268v4, as it brings a novel playstyle. STRV K is just generic hulldown tank with good DPM, and it’s not even a super common comp tank like it used to be now

[rich blade]

wtf am I reading kekw

[regal zealot]

Strv K draw is very expensive; unless if you have 27k+ gold to your name, forget about buying it.

The Vk is far more affordable for a decent price.

[teal minnow]

thanks:)

[misty wing]

?

[serene token]

I got AMX 30B from mystery boxes, it's worth? Or i should sell it

[rich blade]

its very good rn, if you like it you should keep it for sure

[rich blade]

I was refering to the message above me

[misty wing]

He's right though. Strv K is and always has been one of the most boring tanks in tier 10

[rich blade]

wtf what am I reading

[regal zealot]

It may be boring to you, but someone else might find it fun.

[mellow hare]

Aren't the Strv K and T95E6 pretty similar?

[rich blade]

yea

[misty wing]

Objectively it is more boring due to lack of novelty factor

[mellow hare]

The Strv K?

[misty wing]

Yes

[misty wing]

And fun is not the opposite of boring. Anything that suits your playstyle and you perform well in can be fun. It's also boring by the very nature of the tank's design, the two are not mutually exclusive.

[mellow hare]

I just find American designs to be boring at times ngl, everything looks like a weird Patton or M103 with a bulb hatch

[solid wolf]

how to play this tank??

[rich blade]

u go hulldown and u shoot, uneven terrain helps

[shrewd fog]

downtiered m103/t110e5 basically . you know what to do , since its a hulldown american heavy punching machine

[regal zealot]

It's a jack of all trades heavy like the tier X E5; solid gun, nice armor, decent mobility.

[solid gate]

What? How? What this is the box ?

[rich blade]

yea for me it bascially gets not rly more boring then a slow, no gundepression heavy hitting turretless TD, that gets easy penned when slightly turned

[solid wolf]

its the large box , i gambled and it paid off. i got 180 days of premium acc and this tank

[solid gate]

Thanks bro

[mellow hare]

One last question, are the VK 90 and the 268/4 really as good as everyone says they are?

[regal zealot]

This is from an E 100 gun Vs the Vk 90.01 P with AP

With CS HEAT:

Armor generally holds up really well in the Vk, but turn your turret away, you expose its cheeks, like the Vk 45.02 B

[rich blade]

the vk 90 is very strong atm and also pretty cheap, would definitly recommend that if you are into sidecraping heavies

the v4 is in my opinion not rly strong, but armor works rly good against 45%er, I guess 17k is a pretty fair price for it tho

[regal zealot]

V4 head-on, very solid against AP from an E 100.

[rich blade]

yea move slightly and the sides of the upper structure become ez pen

[regal zealot]

But angle slightly too much, its cheeks become very prominent weakspots.

Against TD standard rounds, just show a degree of angle, they punch right through there

[mellow hare]

My mind is telling me to get the 268/4 and VK 90, then to use the coupons on the Chimera. But my heart is telling me Strv K or bust, looks pretty fun ngl

[regal zealot]

Ideally, you want to maximize gun depression and hide the cheek weakspot like the T28 HTC

[mellow hare]

I love my Obj. 252U but compared to something like the Cent Mk. 5/1 is got boring more quickly

[regal zealot]

Ideal position is like this, poking your hull out like this while hiding your cheek

[mellow hare]

Seems fun, is the Chimera still good nowadays?

[rich blade]

yea would still consider it one of the best tier 8s mediums

[mellow hare]

Would the T95E6 be a better choice than the 268/4? Not much people seem to be recommending the latter

[lyric copper]

yes

if you’re good and realise absolute armour reliance is a crutch

[rich blade]

I would buy E6 over v4 even it would be twice as expensive

[mellow hare]

I might as well get the Strv K then, and comr back for the T95E6

[stone garden]

any tips on how to play the 121B?

[balmy compass]

hulldown
be aware of how the terrain is so you can use the gun dep effectively (instead of overpeeking to get a shot)

[wicked thunder]

Abuse the hell out of the mechanic

[balmy compass]

run super speed boost for the funnies

[blissful cave]

They removed super speed boost from Strv K : (
Oh wait nvm you’re talking about 121B

[balmy compass]

Just play Kran ez

[frigid vault]

Just cheat ez

[twin snow]

just dont have skill issue ez

[frigid vault]

Just get wart hunder ez

[topaz light]

is it worth getting the vk 90.01 or waiting for winter event

[wicked thunder]

Both are good

[frigid vault]

I think waiting is gonna drive u crazy, so just get it straight away and in the winter event you will grind the rest of the rewards with the tank

[finite kayak]

Did titan h-nd worth it?

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is Vickers Medium Mk III I only found out this one existed when I was going through the low tiers for my real or fake list and never really saw this one before
And for some reason I love these stupid interwar multi turret tanks

https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-falls-in-love-close-up-gif-15191490740796280635

Me whenever I see another stupid multi turret interwar tank

T-28 and Neubaufahrzeug are literally in my top 10 favorite tanks of all time and pretty high up there too

And now Medium III is just gonna be another tank I really like but I’ll never be able to get because it’s a removed tech tree and they hardly ever make those kind of tanks available (aside from tier 4’s in the battle pass)

[zenith shadow]

T-35 has the most turrets i think

[blissful cave]

It looks like Independent and T-35 both have 4 but I don’t think that 4th one on independent is rotatable

But T-35 is definitely the ultimate multi turret tank

[exotic lodge]

Hey should I get it the LT 432 for 5000 gold and is it worth it?

[plucky summit]

It's too bad spots like those practically don't exist

[distant nymph]

Both A1E1 and T35 have all functional and independent turrets. Imagine the hell that the commander would be living in trying to command all 5 turrets

[lone sage]

heard the VK 72 and VK90 have very different playstyles, is the VK 45.02A a good training for the VK90?

[misty wing]

absolutely not

[lone sage]

interesting, they both felt like sidescraping, rear-turreted german heavy with decent DPM. So is there another alternative?

[misty wing]

VK 4502 A doesn't sidescrape, it's more of a heavium

[solid gate]

yea even the SLIGHTEST over angle the whole side is pennable

[misty wing]

VK90 also doesn't have decent DPM at all

[lone sage]

Sorry I meant VK 45.02B, my bad

[misty wing]

then yes, they are similar in playstyle

[lone sage]

thanks

[safe acorn]

Why do i feel like T-100 lT shouldnt be able to fire regular tank shells

Was right
Thing only shoots HEAT (probs HEATFS), HE and ATGM

The 100mm gun could be a derivative of the D-10T2S (which means the concept of shortening barrels like the L7 Short on the Vickers CR does exist)

Also Obj 84 has some uh, sense of existence

Someone suggested Obj 84 for credibility and even to replace Obj 430 as a Tier X in a Q&A back in November 2015

[vernal forge]

BRO, should I buy VK 90 or E6??

[halcyon lotus]

depends on what you want

buy VK 90 if you like good armor or if you’re a fan of german heavies
buy T95E6 if you like medium tanks, experienced with tanks with no armor and want something new to play

[vernal forge]

Okay, thanks for your advice

[honest creek]

imagine.

[meager spindle]

T34SH

[pulsar temple]

Obj 140 or T-62A?

[halcyon lotus]

T-62A since it’s more easy to play

[pulsar temple]

thanks. what make the 140 harder?

[halcyon lotus]

it has no armor and has gun depression than the t62a

[regal zealot]

It's harder to play due to the lack of turret armor and gun depression. It however has even more DPM and mobility than the 62A

[pulsar temple]

ok thanks 🙂

[regal zealot]

Also, it's the only tier X tank capable of reliably permatracking enemy tanks without Adrenaline.

[misty wing]

Roast me all you want, but at one point I had the random idea to have the T-100LT be super slow but heavily armored, like the Valentine, and I still have faith in the idea. As in it has something like 30 km/h top speed, with horrible terrain resistance and traverse speed, but 150mm upper plate armor and 110mm side armor. The only thing "light" about it being the weight and camouflage.

[safe acorn]

Youre look at the Obj 775

[blissful cave]

Kunze panzer is the last tier 7 on my list of proving tanks real or fake and can’t really find anything on it does anyone here know for sure if it’s real or fake?

Still missing pawlack for tier 6 but that one…is just purely something else a whole rabbit hole I never thought I’d find myself in

[blissful cave]

Also funny fact Kunze panzer is a tier 9 on PC somehow when here it’s only a tier 7

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave so far the only info i can dig up is that Kunze Panzer is a project made by Herbert Kunze and Daimler Benz in the 1960s
Same guy who made the turret for the Leo 2 much later

[misty wing]

I mean it is supposed to be a cold war tank, and it has a 105mm on PC

[regal zealot]

Another funny thing is that it is a light in Blitz, but a medium on PC.

[blissful cave]

Was that information the description wargaming gives or a source outside of wargaming?

[safe acorn]

Based on Reddit finds (3 guys said the same thing over 2 posts)

[blissful cave]

More trustworthy than WG’s description since they do the same even for the made up designs

[safe acorn]

Youre able to find some semblence of evidence from the description
Like Obj 84 for example

[blissful cave]

Yea but the main point of this whole project thing I’m doing is that there must be evidence of the tanks existence that is not what wargaming says

I can’t just only go off what they say because as I’ve mentioned they’ll even write a history background for designs that they made up (and won’t say anything that they didn’t exist)

[safe acorn]

Try GSOR 1008

[blissful cave]

Real
Armored archives has a video on it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3LRdmSgUDaQ

[safe acorn]

Minotauro is interesting to say the least
Its based on the small known time Italy tried bartering into the MBT-70 joint project

[regal zealot]

That's WG's description, right?

[halcyon lotus]

spare parts? or spare farts?

[safe acorn]

The 127mm gun it uses does exist
The engine as well
And the crew layout is identical to the MBT-70

[blissful cave]

Other real concepts that he has videos on (or mention in a video) that are strange tanks in this game include Charlemagne Cobra Yohs Astron AE Phase 1 and Caliban

[blissful cave]

So is the minotauro more like BZ-75 where it’s a fake that’s supposed to represent a real tank instead of something purely fictional

[safe acorn]

Progetto 65 also exists in a manner
Italian General gave a very vague description on a medium tank development for the army, gave it the requirement to have a 105-120mm autoloading gun and some sketch

[safe acorn]

I think BZ-75 is more to false designation and some twists rather than outright fake
Minotauro is solely a built upon concept over the Italian involvement with the German-US joint project

[blissful cave]

BZ-75 I think is supposed to represent WZ-122-4

[safe acorn]

Yehp

[thorny smelt]

This can be a premium

[safe acorn]

WZ-132-1 also exists in a form

Taken from first the Type-62 i
Learned from the Vietnam war, China updated their Type 62s to have protection from RPGs and smaller caliber HEAT + an updated 85mm

Then they took from Type 62G which was a Type 62 with the 105mm L7

[blissful cave]

If there’s any obscure German or Soviet tier 8 9 or 10’s you know anything about and don’t think I have yet let me know

[safe acorn]

Obj 777?

[blissful cave]

Those are usually hard ones to find stuff of trying to find evidence of Skorpion and object 274 and not finding much
Usually the objects are easy because there’s just so many of em why would WG need to fake any (yet they still do)

I do have 777 from when I made a TOD on it but that’s just a rare exception

[safe acorn]

T-100LT? @blissful cave

[blissful cave]

Lemme check

I don’t yet but I think that one is real right

[safe acorn]

Yehp Article 64992

[blissful cave]

I probably wont do a “ones I’m missing yet” list for tier 8 since I barely just started and some I haven’t even done “the google test” yet for
Basically if proof of it’s existence just pops up instantly simply by googling the tank name

Something like M48A2 Raumpanzer I just have to see if Germany ever owned M48 pattons and if they were ever given dozers

[safe acorn]

They did

[blissful cave]

Yoooo

[safe acorn]

Actually surprised you didnt know Germany had M48s

[meager spindle]

kinda wish WG modeled it as the A2G (more adapted model of the M48)

[safe acorn]

It then would be much faster than the one we have currently

[meager spindle]

ngl i just want a german M48 in some form

[blissful cave]

I didn’t really know that part surprisingly didn’t know Germany used M48’s I sort of just assumed they’d just used their own leopards and had no need to get someone else’s

[safe acorn]

Bruh the whole existence of the Leopard was cuz of the imported M48 and M41s they had
They didnt wanna use em anymore

(Wait till you find out about Germany's M47s)

[blissful cave]

Ohhh so they didn’t have both at the same time
Now I’m just looking so much into obscure concepts I’m overlooking simple stuff like this

[safe acorn]

Perks of being a history student ig

[meager spindle]

imagine.... just imagine......

😴

[misty wing]

is that a lion?

[meager spindle]

i hope your joking

[safe acorn]

Why would you want the A1A1 L/44 in the game

[misty wing]

no idea what it is

[meager spindle]

leopard 2k, a prototype to the leopard 2, basically a modified leopard 1

also was germanies fallback to the kpz-70 project iirc

[blissful cave]

Also quick thing Kieler is obviously fake right just to confirm I assume so but just to be sure I tried seeing if anything exists on it
And nothing

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave Keiler and TS are both fake

[blissful cave]

E-75TS right because TS-5 is real

[misty wing]

kinda looked like the Lion to me

[meager spindle]

lion looks more like an OF-40 than the 2k ngl

[misty wing]

I mean there's almost no difference besides the turret cheek shape lol

[meager spindle]

therefore.. it looks like an OF!!!!

[safe acorn]

Why would i say Keiler and TS-5??

[meager spindle]

unlike... this thing

[misty wing]

quite honestly I know almost nothing about mid-cold war tanks. By far the most boring and ugliest phase in tank development imo

I'll never understand why people seem to think the Leopard 1 looks cool

[meager spindle]

:(

[safe acorn]

Guy missing out because his tank project doesnt weigh like a black hole and sink onto the first surface it drives on (Maus momen)

[misty wing]

?

[meager spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/tanks-tanks-when-the-the-gif-24658974

[safe acorn]

Yeah that

[misty wing]

Where did you get the idea that my preference is the Maus & co

[safe acorn]

.

[misty wing]

that's not at all what that implies...
there's like 4 other eras besides the one I specifically stated I didn't like

[meager spindle]

although might i ask what your preference in tank design you favor is?

[misty wing]

late WWII and 1990s-ish

[safe acorn]

Modern day tank engineering is mostly a consolidating period
Rarely ever now we make something very novel

[misty wing]

No one's talking about novelty factor, I merely suggested that the Leopard 1/T-55-T-62/M60/late Centurion/early Chieftain era produced some of the ugliest designs imo

[safe acorn]

Opinions remain opinions i guess

[misty wing]

that's fine, but you made a baseless assumption that my preference was superheavies

[meager spindle]

honestly i like the leopard for it's mix of round shape of the turret clashing with the sharper lines on the hull

[misty wing]

that's exactly what I hate about it. Progetto 65 is literally the ugliest tier 10 imo for that reason, and also the fact that the hull slopes upwards on every side

[meager spindle]

prog overdoes it tbh

[safe acorn]

Eh late WW2 -> superheavies
Slips out the tongue like butter in the heat

[misty wing]

late WW2 as in pershings and IS-3. Even more baseless accusations lmao

[blissful cave]

I dunno

[safe acorn]

Let me guess
You hate the IS-3

[misty wing]

no? It's the "late WWII tank" I'm talking about, that I like
Why are you so hell bent on insisting I like superheavies

[safe acorn]

You literally described what IS-3 is lmao

[misty wing]

the IS-3's hull lines actually flow into the turret

[blissful cave]

Alright that’s cool and all but I’m gonna go back to tank research or something

[safe acorn]

Actually @blissful cave TS and Keiler semi exists in two components

[blissful cave]

Wait but does anyone know if the most recent German premiums are fake HWK 30 and the 07

[meager spindle]

both seem fake

[blissful cave]

Ooh?
(Tanks that are fictional combinations of real parts I mark in yellow the in between)

[safe acorn]

Iirc HWK-30 was based on the export design of the Ru-251
When Germany wanted to export the tank to Mexico

[blissful cave]

Yees it may seem like that but we can’t make any assumptions this list will be built only on proof or an extreme lack of (>to deem a tank fake)

[misty wing]

fake

[safe acorn]

Yeah the 10.5cm gun is based on the one Tiger II was going to get but rejected
The engine is a gas turbine development started pretty late into the war

[blissful cave]

The most important parts are the design of the hull and turret that pretty much make up the appearance design of the tank

Real guns and engines are cool and all but if they’re mounted onto fake designs then it doesn’t really matter if those parts are real or not

[misty wing]

E75TS and RT are both fake, end of story

[blissful cave]

RT?

[harsh elm]

keiler

[blissful cave]

Ah got it so I marked Kieler and E75 TS as fake since I didn’t find anything on em either

[meager spindle]

although if you mean the 07 P(E) it was a mockup

[safe acorn]

At least mark the gun and engine as real
No one knows about the gun and especially the engine

[blissful cave]

The 07 in game the cylinder turret one

[harsh elm]

yeah but apart from those 2 components the rest of the tank most likely were never even designed

[meager spindle]

ah

[safe acorn]

Yeah im well aware of that

[safe acorn]

Same thing different gun i think

[blissful cave]

T-54 lightweight should be easy but all I’m finding is either game stuff or just regular T-54 information (tried skimming a few for anything on a lighter variant)

[misty wing]

the RH is completely different from the P(E)

[limpid ether]

Wargaming

[blissful cave]

This one

[safe acorn]

Oh that 07

Mm looking at the end of WGs description
They said an oscillating turret and improved chassis passed trials and produced

Have a gut feeling they're referencing Turm 3

[blissful cave]

Both are real the one in game is the built one

[limpid ether]

I know I got it from tank encyclopedia

Dang what book is that, I want it

[blissful cave]

This book it’s really cool but it’s like 50$

[safe acorn]

Yehp I cant get info for the 07Rh
Only what it was based on in the future

[limpid ether]

Dang, time to sell my kidney

[blissful cave]

There’s nearly everything on the US heavies and even the obscure prototypes and then even even more obscure concepts like TS-5 is in here

[meager spindle]

isnt that the same book spookston has used for his if {x} was historically accurate vids?

[blissful cave]

I haven’t seen those videos so I wouldn’t know

[limpid ether]

Most likely, I see a lot of R.P Hunnicutt in his Videos whenever it's about the U.S HTs

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave sad that WG made a fake variant of the 268
When theres an earlier design that bore some resemblance to it using the IS-4 chassis

[blissful cave]

So object 268 4 is fake

[limpid ether]

I mean there's no way the Soviet designers decided to make that useless abomination when 263 already exists

[blissful cave]

From what I found object 452 is also fake
And object 274 I’m not really finding anything for (but I just did a surface level search)

[meager spindle]

no surprised on the 452, completely deviates from soviet design during that timespan

[safe acorn]

Obj 263 was scratched together with IS-7 smh
Obj 268 only succeeded because T-10 did

[dapper whale]

is wz 113 still worth grinding for?

[limpid ether]

Probably

[safe acorn]

752 as well

[dapper whale]

is concept 1b hard to use for beginners

[misty wing]

every tier 10 would be hard to use for an actual beginner

[misty wing]

268/4 is real from what I found

[blissful cave]

I’ll have to see for myself before I mark anything official of course

[safe acorn]

OH WAIT i remember it did exist (several variants from a turreted to a non turreted one exist(

[thorny smelt]

Even though there's like 6 IS-7 built

[blissful cave]

But if someone does say it’s fake then I just won’t search as hard because I believe you but won’t entirely mark it officially if I don’t at least try seeing if nothing pops up

[misty wing]

https://www.tankarchives.ca/2016/09/the-last-soviet-heavy-tank-destroyers.html

just check this article out

[thorny smelt]

Imagine IS-7 goes up to 60 kmph and IS-4 43 kmph

[safe acorn]

Yehp because IS-7 was scratched

[misty wing]

why is that something to smh at though
and it's a stretch to say that the 268 succeeded

[thorny smelt]

In favor of IS-8/T-10

[safe acorn]

Yeah because T-10 was far less heavy, less expensive and complicated to manufacture at the time

[safe acorn]

Wont shake off the fact that Obj 263 will never come to production due to what the Soviet government saw in the IS-7

[misty wing]

why are you sad about that though? TDs were rapidly becoming obsolete at the time, and it wasn't particularly impressive or novel

[safe acorn]

I aint sad about it tho?

[misty wing]

your "smh" and wanting to "shake off the fact" that it didn't make it to production suggest that you are upset about it in some way

[safe acorn]

since when did that mean i was sad about the 263???

and i didnt say smh??

[misty wing]

that's just the normal implication of the words that you used. "Smh" is used to express disappointment, and there's only really 1 thing you can be disappointed by in this context.

[misty wing]

you used smh there

and "won't shake off the fact" is used when you wish the opposite were true, so in this case it means you wanted the 263 to make it into production.

[safe acorn]

and i thought i was terrible at comprehension questions

[misty wing]

?

[limpid ether]

Can we please have KPZ 70 have it's IRL speed

[misty wing]

if anything you're terrible at communication

[meager spindle]

it'd be faster and fatter than any light tank in the game, be reasonable, i want it to be faster but 69+ km/h is to fast

[limpid ether]

Bro if they didn't put a 60kmh cap on LTs they can go 72kmh or even more

[harsh elm]

meanwhile all the lts in tier 10 go above 60kph:

[safe acorn]

Bro im not the guy who reads smh as a negative expression

[misty wing]

I don't read it as a negative expression, YOU say it as one, because that's how it's used. It literally is used to express disapproval or disappointment.

[safe acorn]

how did i use as one smh

[misty wing]

?

SMH is inherently a negative expression. I'm not the one comprehending it as such.

[safe acorn]

In no way am i sad bout the 263 i dont know how you got the notion

[misty wing]

"Obj 263 was scratched together with the IS-7 smh"

Tell me, then, what the smh means, if not disappointment/disapproval at the decision you were discussing.

[vivid folio]

?

[misty wing]

Oh wait it was the other guy thinking 263 "existed"

But there's still the "doesn't shake off the fact" line, which is another inherently negative phrase

[safe acorn]

Hows it negative by God
Doesnt shake of the fact means that its a BUILT FACT THAT IM HIGHLIGHTING

[misty wing]

If you changed it to "doesn't change the fact that 263 didn't make it to production", it would be a neutral statement.

"Won't shake off the fact that 263 will never make it to production" is a negative statement.

[safe acorn]

I said DOESNT its the same thing as the FIRST ONE

[misty wing]

The key words are "shake off" and "will never."

"Shake off" implies there's a truth that people might struggle to come to terms with.

"Will never" means you're thinking about potential alternative futures, instead of simply what happened

You might've not intended it that way, but that's just how it reads, and it's NOT because I suck at comprehension.

[safe acorn]

Sigh this guy

[misty wing]

You're just in denial lol

Even the best authors have editors for a reason. Sometimes you mightve not picked the best wording for something, and that's okay

[harsh elm]

did i just watch a tank discussion channel get turned into an english lesson

[misty wing]

I mean the dude sounded straight up depressed that the 263 wasn't mass produced

And then got mad when I asked him why

[safe acorn]

Yeah because ive never seen someone with their iris's backwards before

[misty wing]

I've never seen someone so unwilling to open their eyes in the first place

All you can manage is insults, because my language analysis was correct, and for some reason you're ashamed about it

[safe acorn]

Its literally the same thing as you changed it
And ofc i still stand by that it doesnt change the fact that 263 will never be produced because it no way it will be if IS-7 failed

[misty wing]

Why do you keep using the word will?
No one's asking for it to be produced today or in the future, lmao

[misty wing]

If you can't tell the difference between the tone of my version and yours, you're the one with your irises backwards.

[safe acorn]

Well clearly the guy thought 263 will come out when there's 6 IS-7 hulls

[misty wing]

I don't think that's what they meant

[wary summit]

Another case of internet tone deaf communication

[limpid ether]

This channel really went from vehicles discussion to language discussion

[rancid elbow]

lol

personally imo nerf language, it would make the game more balanced

[limpid ether]

Let's all just communicate with each other by shaking our turrets from left to right

[rancid elbow]

thats too negative bro

[quiet juniper]

I’m not getting how to play the su-122 54. It has no armor, I cant seem to work it

[peak bough]

I'm new to the game, what is this guy talking about then when he said he can choose mobility or gun depression and he chose gun depression? at 56 secs, how do I increase my tank gun depression like that?
https://youtu.be/BRytuJBtbSw?t=56

[halcyon lotus]

the type 71 has a unique set of equipment unlike most other vehicles (though some other vehicles have those special equipment, but the type 71 was the first of its kind to receive that equipment). there is one equipment slot that increases your gun depression, meaning that you can move your gun more to the bottom, and another equipment that allows you to drive faster.

also on an additional side-note, welcome to the blitz community! i really hope you’ll enjoy your stay here

[peak bough]

I see, thank you

also I'm from WoT PC, WoT PC feel really bad to play right now and Blitz seem to be much better so far, pure tank vs tank combat without arty, little to no invisible camping TD ...etc...

[solid gate]

is m 6 yoh worth it to buy

[peak bough]

not to mention it seem to be much more balanced, I'm at the Chi-se right now and even with the stock gun I'm not forced to load premium ammo to pen enemy tank most of the time

[halcyon lotus]

if you enjoy autoloaders and/or hulldown tanks, absolutely. it’s one of the more fun heavy tanks in tier X imo.

i recommend mounting the 3-shell gun first on the Yoh as it is more forgiving. and if you want to do damage quicker in exchange for longer reload time and slightly worse dispersion, get the 2-shell gun.

[solid gate]

thanks for that

[late thistle]

2 shell = epic lulz

[frail dagger]

do remember, you need to do 4K+ dmg to have a decent wn8 in the Yoh, for what little it matters, alot like the T77, itll be hard to master due to its high XP levels, like Meta tanks

[harsh elm]

i mean as long as you get like 2+ kills and 1-2 spots with 3k the yohs wn8 should be super uni

[halcyon lotus]

i agree, i prefer using the 2 shell just to annoy people

[frail dagger]

not really, you still need 4K+, atleast thats what it was a couple of months ago

[harsh elm]

thats how it wws when i played it last 🤷‍♀️

[solid gate]

@honest rampart hey, sorry to bother you again, but, I completed the 60TP line yesterday, I'm doing the Grille 15 line now (just researched the Sturer Emil), what do you say about it?

[glacial grotto]

@solid gate u are really broke now

[solid gate]

I am at 840k again, should be enough to bank it for a while

[glacial grotto]

nice

being broke is painful

@solid gate how long have u been playing

[solid gate]

Indeed

[solid gate]

Well, I have my account back since 2022, but I didn't really make progress on it since around October 25 (I think), when I started the 60TP line, after discontinuing the American heavy line, now I've finished it and seeing the lines I'll do next

[glacial grotto]

i had my account since 2021 but i just skipped playing a an entire year. and now i am playing again

My progress of 2 yrs

i this "OK' for a person playing for 2yrs or too less

@solid gate u still there?

[solid gate]

Nice

[dim pollen]

Chi Se has a good frontal armor but somehow I find this tank boring to play.
Maybe bcoz I've switched my playstyle to meds and lights

[peak bough]

well I'm aiming for the Type 71 lol

right now for Tier 8 I like my Caern Action X the most right now

[honest rampart]

Don't worry about pinging me :)
Congrats on the 60TP. Also, please tell me about your experience with it as I may grind to line myself.
Idk about the Grille 15 tbh, it's currently not the best out there. But idk how good you are, so I can't really tell if you can do well in it

[dim pollen]

It's a good tank too. Many of them here will say type 71 is a heavium. Maybe bcoz of it's speed? Eh idk

[peak bough]

My fav tank in WoT PC were Super Conq and WZ-111 5A, reading around seem like Type 71 is the tank that fit me best in Blitz

I also went up the Centurion line but it seem like Heavy is just plain better than med in Blitz most of the time, also seem like the FV4202 is not as good as Cent AX on WoT PC

[static turtle]

Don't buy E6 get Chieftain, super con or concept 1b instead

creepy smile

[glacial grotto]

is obj 268 a good tank?

[honest rampart]

First, it's not a tank, it's a tank destroyder

[thorny smelt]

Quite versatile

[honest rampart]

Secondly, yes, it is a good as long as you don't camp in it and prepare to be disapointet by the Object 704 as it mounts the same BL-10 as the ISU-152 does

[glacial grotto]

same thing

[honest rampart]

Not really, and I just said it to piss some people off >:D

[glacial grotto]

btw thx for the opinion

[honest rampart]

You're welcome :)

[wise moth]

You shouldn't watch uwudles by the way 🙂

[solid gate]

Thanks, and sure, I can share what I've overall thought of it.

   Starting on the 40TP, absolutely a lovable tank, has a great armor, good damage and will overall work well, I did have no problem grinding on it and was nice.
   Now, on the 45TP, this one is a little more complicated to play, due to its weak spots. This one is a heavy tank but you'll have to play on a support role. At the start, I was having a bad time grinding on this tank, but, after getting used to it, I managed to continue grinding normally, just keeping in mind that I'm not much of a Frontline tank.
   And then the 53TP, If you have free XP, free XP the turret and cannon because the default ones are painful. After that, it will be one of the nicest to grind in, the 420 alpha cannon is very good for the tier and it has a good mobility, just keep in mind that the lower plate is made out of paper and angling doesn't really save it.
   On tier IX, the 50TP. The logic isn't much different as in the 53TP, however will be somewhat harder to grind as you will face more tier Xs than IXs, but you can manage it as it's not a bad tank, but the Lower plate and sides are unrealiable.
   Finally, at the 60TP, it's kinda of a nice tank, the damage helps a lot, but, as the past tanks in the line, has some usual weak spots, and is a magnet for ammo racks

[solid gate]

About the Grille, well, I will see when I reach the Rhm-B WT, should be somewhat similar in play style as it, if it doesn't suit me, I may try another line, but I currently don't know which should I do.

[charred tiger]

One tier 10 away for getting 60 lol

Need a premium though but waiting por Xmas event

Got 3000000 free xp

[harsh elm]

grilles still very workable and not as bad as everyone makes it out to be rn
sure it isnt in the best state like it used to be but i wouldn’t consider it the worst out there either

[honest rampart]

I'm not implying that's bad, but it's just quite hard to do more then 3.5k if you can't camp at the beginning of the battle imo

[honest rampart]

Thanks :)

[wicked thunder]

Doubt

[quasi wedge]

.-.

[wicked thunder]

Doubt

[wise moth]

No one is jealous of your tier 6 stats

[wicked thunder]

Sure buddy, I totally believe you 😁

[wise moth]

My stats are probably better lol. My Crom B WN8 is like 500 higher than your screenshot

[quasi wedge]

I don't have Crom B 😦

[thorny smelt]

Explorer was one of my favorite BP tanks (Based on Cromwell)

My popcorn is ready 🍿

[quasi wedge]

🍿

'-'

[thorny smelt]

Hi Martin

[calm drum]

imliterallypatrickbateman was muted.

imliterallypatrickbateman was banned.

[solid gate]

how hard is the wz1321 to play i hear mad ppl say its the most hardest of the bunch

[balmy compass]

it can be tough to work with the 5 degrees of gun dep and the lack of armor

[charred tiger]

Yolo is the secret of every light tank and be sneaky, if yolo in a smart way that can be fun to play

[late thistle]

What do you guys think of the current Strv K? Is it fine or was it nerfed too hard?

I recently acquired it and it reminds me of the Caer/AX playstyle, I usually chill with the meds on ridges etc/

[limpid ether]

Is Cromwell B fun?

[charred tiger]

@late thistle I got recently is perfect in that and I think over all is great tank and yes I don’t think is op but have style of his own which I find more important I don’t like generic tanks like the soviets ones

[undone star]

Yes

[limpid ether]

I'm gonna buy it and use the 35 coupons to gamble in wz120 TD draw

[undone star]

Its certainly a good tank, decent gun handling, light tank speed, and i believe it has -11 or -12 gun degrees

[limpid ether]

Last u checked Cromwell B has 13 gun DEP def gonna buy it for sealclubbing also is one of the few tanks that have rammer ability at tier 6 in mad games

[undone star]

And it has the panther 2 setup for mad games which is funny

[limpid ether]

Incredibly funny indeed.

I'm gonna buy it

[undone star]

Hope you get good vibes with it

[solid gate]

@blissful cave what do you think of this camo?

[crystal ether]

Ok, big question.

Should I sell my Strv K (7.5k Gold, got it from draw) and get a T8 premium that is on-sale right now?

[misty wing]

Absolutely not

[limpid ether]

Nah use it to buy mystery crates I got KPZ 70 and Caliban from selling AMX 30B best decision of my life

[crystal ether]

No.

[blissful cave]

I think it’s cool

[crystal ether]

Am not going to gamble, I want guaranteed things, and prems on sale is guaranteed.

[blissful cave]

Bruh absolutely not Strv K is amazing it’s like my favorite tank I have it’s so fun to play

[misty wing]

And yeah mystery crates are great

[crystal ether]

I enjoy Strv K anyways, but thanks for clearing that up for me

[misty wing]

Mystery crates are OP. I spent like $200 on them in 2021, and got myself 3 years of premium account and like half the tier 10 collectors at the time

[solid gate]

EU camos are nice honestly

[undone star]

I got excelsior and ram II 2 times, yes mystery crates op

[solid gate]

The German tanks have cool special camos, but other camos don't really fit on them because of the default color of them

[crystal ether]

Personally, Jötunn seems like an epic camo, also because it's my first (researched) Tier X

[blissful cave]

They easily have the best ones I frickn wish I could use that dark green one on all my tanks

[crystal ether]

I put (researched) in brackets cause my true first Tier X is the Sheri Missile, lmao

[solid gate]

Tree bark and Bronze green are the best on the nation for me, however I don't really like the winter ones, other nations have better winter camos in my opinion

[blissful cave]

Yea just decided to get like 15 mystery crates to test something for fun and yea you get nothing every time

[blissful cave]

Yea I think the exact same thing the winter ones are eh for EU but the summer ones are the best

I use hunter markings for my Tornvagns winter one favorite camo for my favorite tank

My other favorites have good legendary ones so I just use those like Strv K’s and Lansen

[solid gate]

I have that camo too, I'm keeping it for Grille 15 though, I think it fits there

[crystal ether]

I am always hoping I could get a good Tier8 Premium, so far I only have S. Hellcat, Polish medium, Obj. 244 and a T6E1

[late thistle]

Depends, I mean you can always restore it for 7.5k gold, think of it as a credit line, if there's a prem on sale you really want then why not

[crystal ether]

Yes but Strv K feels way too good to just sell

[radiant thunder]

I mean

[solid gate]

If I end up getting enough gold I'll buy the legendary camo for 60TP, I like the look of it

@crystal ether yes, Krzemien

[blissful cave]

Yea I’m thinking of using my object 260 and 907 as a “reserve 15000 gold since I can always get em back but don’t really play em that often but still like em

[spice pine]

Depends on your skill. If you are an average player, then Strv is not the best option

[crystal ether]

Krèzmien?

[radiant thunder]

I'm too broke to relate to this convo, but yunno...the Škoda T56 is pretty alright, I guess

[neon compass]

Whose armor is stronger the is7 or obj 777 version 2?

[blissful cave]

Like I got kpz 50t from a crate but I just got the 7.5K gold since it’s not really one I like
777, Strv K and concept I’ll never sell because they’re some of my favorite ones I have

[late thistle]

I got the Strv K from the draw as well and I really like, used to spam Action X to grind credits back in the day and it reminds me of that, strong and fun to play but as I said, even if you sell it it won't be gone forever. Decision is only yours to make @crystal ether

[limpid ether]

IS-7

[crystal ether]

Am not that average, I play quite good with Strv K, the Stabilizer mechanic makes it seriously good, along with epic dpm

[blissful cave]

Strv K as the boss is absolutely broken I always do like above 25k damage that’s like the most fun boss tank for me

[crystal ether]

Not to mention it wrecks other tanks, I get a ton of module damage on it

[spice pine]

Then it sounds like you should keep it

[crystal ether]

Yes.

Even though I had bad experiences with the swedes before. Emil II was sorta the tank that made me scared to progress

[late thistle]

Jgpz E100 as the boss feels really good too, every hit becomes a nuke

[neon compass]

And so there was a kid saying that obj 777 has more armor than is7 because it can side scrap and have stronger cheeks

[limpid ether]

IS-7 has funny black hole side skirt as armor

[crystal ether]

Volumetric best armor

[late thistle]

Got the Kpz 50t too and I love it but for example I got the Badger X2 times (various intervals) from collect em all crates and I always ended up selling it, I didn't really like it, rather play the Ho-Ri or 268 or even 263 etc

[blissful cave]

Whenever I’m looking at crate drops and doing a “want list” of which ones I’d be happy with I just add the tier 10’s even if I don’t want em like 30b because then that’s just 7.5K gold for me

[spice pine]

Badger is perfect in a platoon. It is best played as a support damage dealer while you platoonmate tanks on heavy

[blissful cave]

Super conqueror and 111-5A are two I want but not enough to directly buy em because they’d be like 20k gold so if I somehow got them from something else like a crate that’d be cool

[late thistle]

Got pretty good results with it as a lone wolf, it's definitely strong, maybe borderline op in some cases? (havent played it post 10.3), but Id rather play something turreted to abuse gun depression etc

[blissful cave]

And T95E6 that one is for sale for only 13k but idk if I should get it because there’s tanks coming soon I’d want more

Oh yea we’re gonna need a tank of the day

Should I spin the wheel to decide the country,just pick one myself or do you guys want to pick one

[spice pine]

Germany

[late thistle]

@blissful cave Sconq is a tank I never sell, one of my go to's for "safe hulldown" credit grinding, just wish they didn't nerf it but its still good. E6 is nice but I prefer the Strv K currently because of the novelty since its new to me 🙂

[misty wing]

Panther Ausf. F

[blissful cave]

Super conqueror is one I’ve always wanted because I simply think it just looks really cool super Pershing is my favorite irl tank (Tornvagn was never built) and it’s basically that but conqueror extra armor plates are always super cool and I just recently found out it’s real which makes me like it more

Supposedly it was the firing target for FV4005 trials not a tank actually intended to be used
Conqueror had armor but they just slapped on a lot more to test FV4005 with something super heavily protected

[late thistle]

it definitely looks great, Strv K looks great too, E6 on the other hand looks ugly imo

The Strv K legendary camo looks awesome and is animated

[lone sage]

Would you say playing Action X is a good way to "learn" the Strv K? I am looking for a lower tier equivalent to practice

[misty wing]

no

[blissful cave]

Strv K is my favorite legendary camo in the entire game it’s based on how Swedens centurions actually looked irl
Plus the detail of the HE proof fence they used on Strv 103 is an extra nice touch

[solid gate]

[limpid ether]

Actual military camo instead of random colors + beautiful pike nose is the reason I want Strv K, I don't care if wg nerfs it or it becomes an average tank, it looks dang cool

[blissful cave]

Yees we need more actual military camos

[gaunt mountain]

how to play the 57 heavy?

[wicked thunder]

Shoot the enemy tanks

[gaunt mountain]

can pepole just be actually helpful

[blissful cave]

I’d just say usual clip autoloader attack rapid fire those 3 shells then hide for the 20 or so second reload

[gaunt mountain]

alr thanks, also can it hull down?

[lyric copper]

most tanks can?

if you mean effective hulldown, not so much

[blissful cave]

The hinge gaps on it are a weak spot but it’s a thin line rather than a solid spot so it’s not that easy to hit

T57 Heavy mentioned I have a reason to bring up and show this cool model T57 Heavy I made that I’m proud of : )

[wise moth]

Dang that’s hawtttt. Did you buy it, or 3d print it?

[blissful cave]

Bought a 3D print and painted it myself

[solid gate]

Hi, what about skoda T27? which tank should i buy? I want an auto loader

[rich blade]

skoda is atm pretty cheap and a rly fun and good premium, can recommend it

[lone sage]

so is there a good tech tree/lower tiers equivalent to the Strv K?

[misty wing]

not that I can think of. heaviums are pretty rare in lower tiers and are usually premium

[lone sage]

the only heavium I have played is probably the VK 45.03, not exactly similar

[misty wing]

you don't need training with heaviums though, that's the thing. You literally just go med side and trade shots/yolo if applicable. You don't even need to have great map knowledge, because you're slower than meds, so you can just follow the ones on your team

[lone sage]

we will try that then

[blissful cave]

Basically you’re a medium with heavy HP

[vague fossil]

ez

[safe acorn]

T95E6 is a steal tho

[blissful cave]

Yea ik but I gotta save my gold for cob- wait a second I wouldn’t like the playstyle of cobra I just think it looks cool

Cobra and Strv 81 are tanks coming soon I want and thinking I should save my gold for those but idk

[safe acorn]

Think Cobra's gonna sell normally and not like a Charlemagne momen?

[blissful cave]

Strv 81 is simply Swedish centurion and cobra I really don’t like HE only playstyle but like the tank itself

[safe acorn]

Would be nice if they added Centurion 32pdr

[blissful cave]

T95E6 is the only tier 10 American I don’t have since that’s the only tech tree I 100% plus have M60 and Concept

[safe acorn]

Then get the E6
Quickly before they nerf it to the ground

[blissful cave]

Technically not because I don’t have Sheridan missile but I don’t really care for that

And that’s about to no longer be the case because XM66

[safe acorn]

wished they added Obj 714 (paper 268) for Tier IX or X

That and i think I'll grind BC 25T Line

[thorny smelt]

How about Object 120?

[blissful cave]

Yoooo chimera real?

[wicked thunder]

It was a concept yes

[halcyon lotus]

yoo didn’t know that

[safe acorn]

Uh yeah..?
Thought Armored Archivist made a vid on it

Guess not

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmVErXDDdJ0/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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Just months after the IS-2 began production, work began on developing a new heavy tank to replace it down the line. Engineer N. F. Shashmurin and his team envisioned an unusual tank, meant as a direct IS-2 upgrade, the IS-M. The most notable aspects of Shashmurin’s design were the large-diameter road wheels and the rear mounted turret. However, ...

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So theres a turreted version and a casemate version similar to the 268V4

Same guy also made a KV-4 design with a hull mounted gun

I think the guy running the Tank Encyclopedia is a good lad

[thorny smelt]

I saw IS-M (IS-2Sh).

Also.... overall armor buff when?

[safe acorn]

Anwyays the KV-4 model we have rn is Moskvin's
Which was ignored and unawarded during the actual competition

[thorny smelt]

I forgot that also have the design for V5

[blissful cave]

I knew that cobra Caliban and Charlemagne was part of that group but never knew chimera was in there too

[thorny smelt]

I think it's a part of one of their heavy tank projects

[quaint saffron]

Is-2sh could have been everything 252 is right now + such a small size. But no...

[thorny smelt]

They gave it with crappy armor profile Q_Q

[blissful cave]

The sh stands for shi-

[quaint saffron]

haha "shh" don't tell them you dumped your gold.

I know 2sh and vk90 cannot be compared. But just for feel of it, both rear turrets... I just so wish it was more than it is. Don't need it to be as stupid as 252 is to is7, but its already slow for what it is, its got terrible turn rate, the gun is bad even for a russian... like just give it stalinium level armor at least... come on WG. Its pretty old tank too right.

[balmy compass]

IS-2Sh is like the worst Soviet 122mm heavy in the game lol

[blissful cave]

Chrysler K is a tier 8 rear turret I really like

[quaint saffron]

I used to like it, but my only gripe was how massive it is and getting penned right in the turret in the front is just sad to see. But at least its agile with a great gun

[blissful cave]

If only it was actually built it wasn’t because immediate post war tank production lacked funding

[thorny smelt]

Shashmurin's IS-2 is dookie in this game compared to its PC counterpart Q_Q

[thorny smelt]

It needs overall armor buff

[blissful cave]

Super Pershing either needs an armor buff or a speed buff or be marked as a heavy (extra HP) either be a heavy or medium just don’t be a slow medium

[meager spindle]

it's a meavium

[valid gale]

Chimera is a common code name used for multiple projects in this case it was for a heavy tank concept while it was also used for the PC manticore ( no idea why it was named that )

[harsh elm]

there was also a td version of the chimera iirc

[blissful cave]

Yea I saw the videos for armored archives for chimeras but different ones so I didn’t know if this one was real yet

I’ve been working all day and need a short quick tank of the day still

Todays tank of the day will be the T7 Combat Car

[solid gate]

Have you ever seen this tank? The MB-3

[remote kindle]

Ah, the M41 bulldog with a L7 gun. Funni brazilian tank go brttt

[meager spindle]

engesa moment

[solid gate]

yes

[blissful cave]

The Brazilian one? Yea I think it’s cool I have a close friend that’s Brazilian so I always tell her about Brazilian tanks

[blissful cave]

Dang only 1 was built

[solid wolf]

is there any evidence that t54e2 is even real?

[halcyon lotus]

yes

[solid gate]

Yeah, that is one of the tank's versions. It's usually known as the Brazilian bulldog despite the Tamoyo III not being really relationed to the M41 anymore

[blissful cave]

Yea it was the same with bernardini

[solid wolf]

whaaat bruh wg should put that large copula, we need accurate tank features.

[blissful cave]

It was originally a heavily modified M3 Stuart where everything was changed to the point it was no longer the same tank
And then became its own thing enough to be produced entirely from scratch in Brazil no longer dependent on M3 parts

[solid wolf]

the reason some tanks are op in hulldown because the copula is removed or shrunken

[blissful cave]

So basically ship of Theseus (the riddle that’s like if every part of the ship is replaced is it even the same ship anymore)

[halcyon lotus]

imo the t54e2 is already quite easy to deal with since the cupola isn’t to hard to hit

[blissful cave]

A lot of American tanks have cupolas like that but they’re just not added to every single one in game

[solid wolf]

yea i have the tank, and its okay. but that tank is so good almost the most best performing tier 8 tanks in my garage second is my borrasque

[halcyon lotus]

my favorite tier 8 by far would still be the Progetto 46, i adore it. i think about it everyday

[solid wolf]

they say its bad to gamble, but im just dumb and still doing it 🤣

[halcyon lotus]

if the luxury lounge event was still here, you can exchange that premium account for more than 12,000 diamonds

[blissful cave]

M-IV-Yoh is one of my surprising favorites like I always feel like I want to play that one

[solid gate]

I think you meant the M41.
By the way - yeah, that was it, although, it lost interest of the army because of the Osório, but after Osório ended up failing, and while in the middle of a economic crisis, the Tamoyo was just closed at that point and we ended up getting the Leopard 1A1 and 1A5

[halcyon lotus]

speaking of which, am i the only one who likes how the M-IV-Yoh looks?

[harsh elm]

no

[solid wolf]

you're right.. man. my lucky did this purposely!! MAN I WANT BISONTE

[blissful cave]

Like having so many tanks to choose from there’s a lot that I like but don’t play each specific one often because there’s just so many to choose from but almost every session I’m playing Yoh 4 at least once

[solid wolf]

MY BISONTE 😭😭😭

[blissful cave]

My favorite looking one of the Yohs and like the design in general for some reason
it’s one of my little weirdos

[halcyon lotus]

i exchanged all my premium account for the crates from the luxury lounge except sadly i only got a matilda BP. i was super close in getting the T-44-85 and Tiger 131

[solid gate]

It's a little weird that the m-iv has a clip but a 7-sec reload at each shell

[halcyon lotus]

yeah it’s a very weird tank

[blissful cave]

Yea that part is stupid it’s basically a single shot tank that just takes 13 seconds every 4th shell

[solid wolf]

aww

[blissful cave]

Imagine if it got that interclip boost item

[solid gate]

What I don't like in the American heavies however is the design of the hull in the front, that rounded shape is kinda ugly honestly

[wicked thunder]

M-4-yoh is really good

[solid gate]

It's op on madgames

[wicked thunder]

Like pretty much everything is

[solid gate]

Yeah, but being able to heal yourself just by shooting is better than some other passive skills

[blissful cave]

I don’t really know how tanks do in game modes since I don’t play modes other than realistic and boss but what I do know is that Strv K in boss mode is busted af it’s so fun

Heavy HP plus DPM based tank with halved reload and you just rip apart anything in seconds

Other DPM based tanks like leopard can do the same thing sure but heavy HP makes you able to stand there and trade shots so much better

[safe acorn]

@blissful caveso apparently chrysler K made a turret for the M60 prototype which used a 120mm gun

that and Germany developed a regular layout for the MBT-70 where the driver is in the hull. That and now the 20mm is on the side turret

[blissful cave]

Important thing I don’t remember if we came up with an official answer but is Kunze panzer real or fake I can’t find anything on it and it’s the last tank I need to check off to complete tier 7 in the real or fake list

I still don’t have an official answer for pawlack but that ones for me this ones personal (T~T)

Still I have no idea how this one can be so frickn confusing wargaming has a picture of its mock-up and the guy
But I cannot find any mention of this tank anywhere else
Nor can I find any mention of Leon S Pawlack/Pawlak (supposedly the name is misspelled in game and there’s no C) I even looked into the 1940’s census for that name and nothing no mention of this man even existing…but then how does this photo exist

Like normally I’m like “oh cool a photo, this tank is real” but the lack of ANYTHING on the tank or person makes me so confused

Oh wait this one’s the lower quality one I did find a higher quality picture (by someone in some wot discussion site idk where they found it)

.
Oh yea but back to the original question does anyone know if Kunze panzer is real or fake? I can’t find anything I’m about to consider it fake

[safe acorn]

the only answer going around is that Herbert Kunze and Daimler Benz made the tank and named it after him and that it came before/during the Standardpanzer project

[blissful cave]

Soo real? (If so I’d need to see something of where it says that)

Not to be like “uhm source🤓” but like I’m trying to make this list as accurately as possible to be the definitive list of every non historic design in the game

[safe acorn]

its very vague atm everyone says their point but no evidence

[blissful cave]

So should I just mark it fake for now and if anything comes up later I can always change it

[safe acorn]

just mark out as ambiguous

WG just made it either a 2nd RU or a 2nd Leo

[blissful cave]

I will simply keep it at 3 categories those being
Real
Fake
Middle ground not fake enough to be fake but not truly a real design stuff like fictional combinations of real parts or almost everything is accurate just the gun is not one it had or other minor changes

But designs that I am unsure of will simply be unmarked until I have a more sure answer

[safe acorn]

anyways you gonna do ST-1?

[blissful cave]

I haven’t really gotten to tier 9 yet since I just started 8
But that’s not one of the ones I know off the top of my head

I filled out all the 8,9 and 10s I know myself for certain wether they’re the obvious ones like M48 Patton or obscure concepts I found out are real before making this like Charlemagne

[solid wolf]

Charlemagne looks cool, tbh i need to have a better uk tanks

[sage viper]

AP amx 30 worth it or you suggest another tank (like cent 5/1)

[thorny smelt]

Nah. Skip that AMX tank

[karmic reef]

Hi

[inner merlin]

Worth it?

[safe acorn]

Wait a min aint the Skoda T56 on a sale at that price

[inner merlin]

Idk, this just showed up when I logged in

[safe acorn]

Well how good are you to begin with?

[inner merlin]

So, shall I buy?

[thorny smelt]

Do you play the IS-3 line?

[inner merlin]

All German,
The non German is just premium

[void cairn]

Newbie question is this tank any good?

[thorny smelt]

You need some skill to play pike-nose tanks and learn how to take advantage of 252U's armor because mostly you'll go hulldown.

[deep swan]

Worth?

[halcyon lotus]

worth it if you like snipers

[undone star]

Worth if you like it

[safe acorn]

Aint that expensive

[wary summit]

Avg price for a tier 8

Atleast it's fully equipment

[wraith flax]

out of the tanks in the black friday section which one should i get for credit grinding and performance

[safe acorn]

The one you think youll dominate in

[mellow hare]

So lads, should I grind for the Vk 72.01K?

[lyric copper]

yeah? why wouldn’t you

[mellow hare]

already have the Maus and I love it, not sure if it's worth going for because of that

[lyric copper]

you do not compare the VKK to the Maus

[mellow hare]

I know, but if I had to pick one which is the better heavy overall?

[hidden grove]

Is the foch any good? Should i keep grinding for it or is it meh

[opaque zodiac]

It's a good tank

[lyric copper]

VKK

[lyric copper]

no.

if you want a better tank, get the Obj. 268 or WZ113G FT

if you want speed, Obj. 263

[hidden grove]

Alr but those are so annoying, i want to get a fun td

[lyric copper]

there are no fun TDs.

[lyric copper]

there will likely never be such a thing

TDs are the 2nd most boring class in the game

[mellow hare]

alright, time to finish the grind :D

[surreal pendant]

just got T22 medium any tips?

[lyric copper]

wiggle

a lot

move

a lot

[wise moth]

CdA 105 is pretty fun. Smol cockroach assault gun tank

[solid wolf]

nope.

[solid wolf]

is the mobility equipment for type 71 line still worth?

[solid wolf]

good tank, just dont put yourself on open areas and always aware on surroundings

[balmy compass]

Kanonenjagdpanzer tho

[blissful cave]

T95 is a fun one and probably my favorite TD I like it a lot (I would say T30 is my favorite but that’s like not even a TD it’s a heavy tank with lower HP)

Same with T110E4 that and T30 are just heavies marked as TD’s

[leaden junco]

su152 is kinda fun

[blissful cave]

I also am starting to really like TS-5 it’s damage to reload feels really good

[leaden junco]

i dont have ts5 but the gun seems quite good

[regal zealot]

As long as you can hide the lower half, it’s quite good

[blissful cave]

But TS-5 sort of feels like a tier 8 T95 how it looks and moves but the damage is more fast rather than T95’s big shot long reload

[leaden junco]

on tier8 i prefer the 130pm or 152

[blissful cave]

ISU-152 is one I like but what I don’t like much is it’s nonexistent HP

[leaden junco]

i mean, gotta blance it somewhere

[blissful cave]

The things got the HP of a tier 6 medium

Yea I guess but it doesn’t have armor either only damage but the pen will go through anything at least

T95 HP buff when😏

[leaden junco]

gotta play with the covers

[blissful cave]

Also I’m so glad T30 got an HP buff up to fit with the rest like a tier 9 “heavy tank” should not have 1500 HP

[leaden junco]

whats your opinion on the obj268/4

i just got it from a mistery certificate and its weird, like good armor but the gun is awkard

[tight otter]

Let's make the biggest discussion abt T62a and Obj 140

[leaden junco]

t62 forever

[blissful cave]

I don’t have it but I do know playing against it is really annoying it doesn’t have any frontal weakspot just only the “cheeks” of it when it turns ever so slightly but you’ll almost never get them because if they rotate even just 1° back the other way it won’t pen

Basically they rotate side to side slightly and it’s really hard to hit em

[leaden junco]

premium to the lower plate, thank me later

[tight otter]

Armour is good but u can't angle all too much, the gun is decent but not the best compared to other Tds, V4 got some Weak spot Frontally for example the lower plate (if u have enough gold pen) the cheeks and the cupola

[leaden junco]

yea the gun is weird, armor is good, have to use calibrated tho cause the pen is not too crazy

[tight otter]

I like V4 gun is decent tbh hits "Hard" for 650

But I would rather play Wz 113 gft it's just so much better

[grave skiff]

V4 don't have lfp

[leaden junco]

ill play more games to get acustomed, its not a tank that suits my playstyle too much

[tight otter]

Anyone got WZ-120ft?

[leaden junco]

broken tank if u ask me

[tight otter]

This annoying tiny little Btch T8 td of Chinese. I got it and it's so annoying to the enemy's xd

[leaden junco]

the armor is so troll

[tight otter]

It's just broken, this thing turns extremely fast, got very much Armour tbh, mobility is just great, and gun is perfect for this

[leaden junco]

carefull with the tracks

[tight otter]

It's troll

It's just broken I wasn't even boss though

[leaden junco]

omg

[tight otter]

Yk what's even more funny. I JUST NEEDED 4 COUPONS TO GET IT XD

[dim pollen]

Which tank shall I research first?

1. Vk 72.01
2. Maus

on a side note, I already have 60TP and E100

[grave skiff]

Vk, better gun and no lfp (lower front plate)

[rancid fog]

What was cheapest SU130 (t8 prem) was sold in auction or crates

[knotty light]

what line do you guys reccomend

[lavish phoenix]

The vk is great

[knotty light]

?

[grave skiff]

German super heavies, any td is good rn tbh, for meds 140,62a, stb or smth else, for lt t100 or bc25

But I'm not an expert

[fathom bolt]

owow

[tight otter]

Sheridan, LT-100, BC and Vickers for LT players, Obj 907, Patton, STB, Obj 140 and T62a also E50m for med players, E3, E4, Wz, Jg, Ho-Ri for TD players (also grille but u need skill to play it) and E6, Type, Chief, E100, Vk (90 and 72), E5, 60TP, Kran, Maus, Obj 260, IS-7 for heavy players

[misty wing]

You mean most TDs suck

[grave skiff]

E3 and E4 suck?
Minotauro suck?
Hori suck?
Wz113gft suck?
Jgpe suck?
Grille suck?

Bro wake up to reality

[misty wing]

Lol

[lyric copper]

mino does suck

crutch tank

grille also is ehh

[misty wing]

Ask any pro and they will tell you that turretless tanks in general just suck for winning.

[misty wing]

Ho-Ri too imo

Sacrificing other stats to have insane pen kinda just lowers its skill ceiling

[hybrid skiff]

Which one of these should I go for??

[misty wing]

Whichever one you think is coolest

[kind osprey]

Is m48 better than m60 rn?

[lyric copper]

if you mean in a competitive sense, the Kranvagn, THEN 60tp

[wary summit]

50-50

There's some things the M48 does better, and vice versa

[misty wing]

but kranvagn isn't "one of these", technically

[lyric copper]

i am legally blind

[grave skiff]

Decent mobility and troll armor?

[lyric copper]

wouldnt say the Ho-Ri has troll armour

[grave skiff]

It have but ok Mr. CeO

[lyric copper]

like its either you pen or you dont

[misty wing]

not as decent or as troll as it would be if it had less pen

and the stats that it sacrifices are more so the gun arc, gun handling, and alpha damage

[blissful cave]

Alright fellas we’re gonna need a tank of the day

[misty wing]

WZ-111

[blissful cave]

Alright then

Also would there be any tank that would be fitting as a thanksgiving kinda one like how I did CV90120 Ghost for Halloween or nah kinda doubt it

I could do a US one at least since thanksgiving is only a US thing really

[lyric copper]

M10 Booker

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is WZ-111 (from what I see the tank was never finished)

[safe acorn]

Gotta add in the part where this was as technologically superior as the late IS series

Afaik WZ-111 had been experimented with single plane stabilizer and a chain autoloader as quoted from ConeofArc

In the end its a flawed design a little too late

[river sage]

I need tips how play Kpz 70 safely

[safe acorn]

Dont rush out like a pingus (your hull is juicy)
Use your turret armor in hulldown positions to deal damage
Use your mobility to get around (I think Fatness said it had good mobility for a heavy)

[river sage]

Ouhhh can I try that famous angle of tiger 1?

[safe acorn]

No

[river sage]

So I just need hide my hull?

[safe acorn]

Hang on a sec whats your highest tech tree vehicle?

[lyric copper]

dont rely on armour in general

expect people to pen you, so peek out, aim for a bit, shoot, go back into cover

do not overpeek, do not permastare, those are the tools of a bad player

[river sage]

Tier 10 (IS-7 soon will have E-100)

[safe acorn]

Well if you're acquainted with the IS-7 just be more cautious when playing the Kpz-70

[river sage]

Because in my garage there are not medium and light tank or TD
Just heavy heavy qwq

[lyric copper]

act like you have no armour

[river sage]

Aside from that Kpz 70 seem fun to play

[safe acorn]

For a 152mm you have pretty good handling aside from mediocre depression

[river sage]

I have learn to handle depression

[safe acorn]

As expected from an IS-7 user

[tulip steppe]

I like it too, reload can get you but if you're planning for it that gun can snap shots pretty good

[river sage]

Because the shot wasn't straight instead it will like up to down like a rainbow shape

Expecially when it far away or blind shot

[lyric copper]

or in normal terms, a parabola

[river sage]

Indeed

[safe acorn]

God im just hoping 7k is enough for christmas auctions

[lyric copper]

for a good tier 8? maybe, but its likely they start at 10k and are gone fast

[river sage]

Ouh planning get tanks?

[lyric copper]

expect 12k+ for a tier 10

tbh i kinda have everything already and dont really want more

like when they release the Auf.Panther and ShTPK ill get them for sure, since i like(d) them on PC