vehicles-discussion

[plucky summit]

Then use 9° B)

[hollow mauve]

not all places allows that

[granite rivet]

Skil isu : ))

[plucky summit]

I mean, you're basically a Progetto 65 with an extra shell and the ability to have a very strong turret

[hollow mauve]

with significantly worse mobility and worse accuracy

[plucky summit]

I don't find the mobility really that impactful, really. You get to your position just fine, you fight it out with the other mediums, then if you win the flank, you already outmaneuver the heavies

Don't even try to suggest Progetto 65 is on par with Carro 45t

[hollow mauve]

if you use 4th shell while in a fight ur dead

[plucky summit]

Don't use it in a fight unless there would be no repercussions ._.

[hollow mauve]

my loaded got killed so i miss timed a shell by 0.2 sec and ended upw ith a 20 sec reload

then got killed by a tvp who just followed me around the entire damn map just to kill me then he died cuz he got shot

[plucky summit]

Unlucky

I interpret Carro 45t to be a punishing tank. It has multiple shells to quickly dish out punishment for aggression and an autoreloader to sustain that damage if it needs to. You can play it like a small autoloader unless someone rushes you. Carro is defensive, but needs a team

Also the 1st and 3rd shell reloads are funnily the exact same between it and Progetto 65

[hollow mauve]

a team whats that? i dont think such exist in this game

i lost a game at tier 6 with 4k dmg

[plucky summit]

Trust me, they're definitely more involved than you meme about

[hollow mauve]

we should platoon and you will see my average teams, i have 100% stopped ranked and regular because of them cuz they shred win rate lately

my teams average 700-1500 dmg at t10

[plucky summit]

Unfortunately I'm on NA

Play around your team like they're neuron activated monkeys, play like they'll shoot an enemy if they drive in front of them. Bait the enemy to rush you while you're covered by a TD, or another med

[hollow mauve]

my team sees it as an opportunity to flee while i get focused

[plucky summit]

Good luck getting anything above 20% WR if your teams really do that every time

[hollow mauve]

33% today

im glad it doesnt count cuz i only play realistic

if you want wins in this game you must do it your self. you're a fool if you rely on your team. they are only useful as shield and cannon fodder while you farm the damage

i got focused 3v1 and my team lost the 4v6 before i died

[plucky summit]

You always rely on your team to win. You may be a lone wolf, but obviously there's something preventing every battle being a 1v7.
Good players still need their teammates

[hollow mauve]

they are incompetent. they dont know who to shoot at, where to shoot, where to go they know nothing. they either die way to fast or if i die first im just watching them die while doing abysmal damage.

My teams are horrendous

[plucky summit]

Yeah like you've never been carried before. Everyone has :/

[hollow mauve]

very rare occation. majority of the time its my team dealing less than 1,5k dmg at t10. even below 1k quite often

[safe cedar]

AMX m4 54 gun is so awful after 10.3, it's actually insane just how bad it is.

[celest mist]

point it upwards so that it cover a part of your cupola

[slim wasp]

Which TD line are better British or Russia?

[wicked thunder]

Russian

[median snow]

china

[zenith shadow]

German jgpz E-100

If british go for any either fv215 or the fv4005

Not at all?

[undone star]

Only for ruining days purposes

[zenith shadow]

The damage on British tds are good

[undone star]

That doesnt make it good

[zenith shadow]

Idk what to tell ya then

[devout notch]

SP I C is gremlin in WoTB i think :v

[earnest tinsel]

t34 good to print credits ???

[undone star]

If you like the playstile yes

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is AMX 50

[versed lodge]

Yow helo helo

Test

[blissful cave]

Ok there’s actually a lot to talk about so I won’t group the prototype and final design todays tank of the day is the one you see here (the prototype is like the tier 8 you see in game i see it referred to more as AMX M4)

Actually no I’ll do prototype first

So todays tank will be the AMX 50 prototype

[true socket]

the jag has equivalent damage with tungsten but actual armor

[daring bay]

today I saw an English tank that looks incredible: the M-VI-YOH, it's a heavy vhar that does good damage with good armor and it fires 3 shells after me.
I'm clearly going to give up everything to unlock this tank as quickly as possible 😂
I will maybe even sell 2/3 German tank to move faster

[safe cedar]

No, the AMX m4 & the AMX 50 are separate tanks. The AMX 50 "100" as it's called in-game is actually the finished product and finalized design.

In the image you have a new construction AMX-50 & a converted AMX m4 fitted with a new turret.

[blissful cave]

The image of the flat hull being the prototype of AMX 50 and later what the game calls “50B” was a later version with changed hull design and a bigger gun

[dim jasper]

Its actually one of the best t10 heavies, you just have to be careful not to play as a brawler

[safe cedar]

Well technically neither of those are the prototype of AMX-50.

This is.

[daring bay]

Yes ! Thx
I rush 10 tier

[thorny smelt]

Don't rush to get to tier 10 right away

[versed lodge]

Add MBT :v

[daring bay]

why do you say that ?

[safe cedar]

Already ingame

[dim jasper]

U have to learn the game first, its easier to learn on low tier

[versed lodge]

Real?

[blissful cave]

Yea I don’t think I did very good on the AMX 50 T.O.D I was originally gonna just do one on the tank as a whole but there was more to it than I thought so I split it between the early design (and why it was built) and later will do this design

Still confused why some places called it AMX M 4

That’s the main part I don’t understand yet

[daring bay]

You're right and I see what you mean, I already know the game a little so I wouldn't have too much trouble progressing...

[dim jasper]

What is your wr and avg/tier?

[daring bay]

I have a problem: my account has just been disconnected from the server, is this normal or not? I tried everything but I can't reconnect to my account.
I think the best thing to do now is to start from scratch. too bad, I only had 2 level 7 tanks and I was planning to start a new nation.

[daring bay]

It's been 1 week that I've been playing 2/3 hours a day
I have 2 tier 7 tanks

[zenith shadow]

So many similar tanks of that design lol. For moment i thought that was loraine 40T since thats the one i always use and have.

[blissful cave]

If they can put an oscillating turret on it they will

[balmy compass]

T-34/13 when then

[wicked thunder]

We already have MBTs

[blissful cave]

What’s T-34/13 looking it up I don’t see anything

[balmy compass]

joke statement
T-34 chassis with AMX-13 turret ontop

[blissful cave]

Ah I thought that maybe was a tank of the day suggestion for a tank I’ve never heard of

[strange fractal]

Is the only way of getting the annihilatior and the smasher through bad company containers or do they appear in the shop for gold

[wicked thunder]

Containers

[granite rivet]

Best amx

[blissful cave]

Smasher was put for draw twice not that long between eachother that’s kinda like putting it for sale (probably won’t get it until the last one that’s usually how draws go) and guranteed at a point unlike crates

[strange fractal]

And annihilator?

[blissful cave]

Annihilator hasn’t

[thorn girder]

Just made a tier list On all t10s after 10.3, Let me know if everything is where it needs to be (it’s a little buggy)

[blissful cave]

I don’t know anything about competitive but was Strv K’s nerf really that bad where it dropped from like the best tank in Tier 10 (or at least seeing how it was the most used tank in tournaments) to a middle low tier?

Strv K is my favorite tier 10 tank I have and really fun to play and I love the tank itself too

[thorn girder]

Mm

[lyric copper]

aint no way this man but the cheif ABOVE the E6

also chief does NOT belong in OP or insane, its good

[thorn girder]

Yea I forgot to put the e6 in

[blissful cave]

The 0.2 second reload increase is no difference to me but I have noticed the turret roof nerf was bad I get a lot less hulldown bounces
But the stabilization is kinda neat

[lyric copper]

<@&481447501690568709>

[calm drum]

uolby_series was banned.

[thorn girder]

Pfff

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-krabs-gif-3363592

Ohhh boo hoo let me play a sad song on the worlds tiniest violin

[safe cedar]

AMX m4 is the initial and earliest name in 1951 the tank was moderately redesigned and renamed AMX-50.

[safe cedar]

Did you actually put Leopard 1 & AMX m4 mle. 54 in op???
https://tenor.com/bZ5iG.gif

[thorn girder]

I was second guessing AMX but leopard is

[safe cedar]

Leopard is way too fragile to be OP. AMX is also pretty bad currently...

[blissful cave]

Were any of the regular turret designs real I don’t really know much about French tanks I’d need to look into those more I doubt all 3 are (45,49,54)

[safe cedar]

All turrets were real, but the final one was belongs to the "AMX 50b"

[daring bay]

I'm hesitating between 2 American tier 10 tanks: M-VI-YOH or T57heavy.
both fire 3 shells in a row and have approximately the same characteristics.
but the two branches have a little difference.
tanks from the M-VI-YOH branch only fire a single shell up to tier 9, while those from the T57heavy branch fire 3 shells from tier 7 onwards.

So I'm tempted to take the T57heavy branch, but I'd like to know what you think of it too! I'm not very experienced in gaming yet so I need advice from competent people

[calm drum]

😈𝔠𝔞𝔫𝔡𝔶 𝔓𝔢𝔯𝔰𝔬𝔫𝔞 😈#9214 was banned.

[blissful cave]

Oh I meant the regular turrets on the AMX M4’s the not oscillating ones
AMX M4 45, 49 and mle 54 the tier 7 tech tree,8 premium and 10 collector

[wicked thunder]

This is… wow…

[safe cedar]

Thats what i was talking about..

[blissful cave]

Oh so all 3 are real?

[safe cedar]

Yes, but like I said the last one belongs to AMX 50b.

[blissful cave]

AMX M4 54 turret wouldve gone on the 50b hull? Sorry if I’m being really stupid and I don’t understand)

[safe cedar]

Yes

[lyric copper]

see WoTPC french line beta for what this somewhat looked like

AMX50B with the M4 54 turret

[safe cedar]

The turret is called Tourelle Classique B or TCB 120 which is where "AMX 50b" gets its name ingame.

[lyric copper]

for this Christmas, I wish that the 50 120 gets a gun depression buff

[blissful cave]

The one in the museum is the “50b” right

[lyric copper]

@blissful cave could I reserve a tank for daily tank

[blissful cave]

Yes any suggestion that is real and hasn’t been done yet I’ll do

[lyric copper]

SK-105

[safe cedar]

Yes, all other variants except supposedly 1 other were scrapped.

[blissful cave]

Now I gotta look that up I haven’t heard that name

[frail dagger]

Man put the ho-Ri at the bottom

[safe cedar]

Baby AMX 50

[blissful cave]

Ah so this is kinda like AMX 13 with a big gun

Alright I’ll do it I haven’t done an Austrian tank (nor even knew of any before)

[lyric copper]

and it goes like one too

[blissful cave]

But obviously since I’ve never heard of it I’d have to look into it a bit before making a post on it

[lyric copper]

iirc, -10° of gundep

[safe cedar]

Its basically AMX 13 but better

[blissful cave]

Mini AMX 50

[safe cedar]

6° i think

[lyric copper]

French ingenuity + Swiss engineering= probably always good things

[safe cedar]

Turret can probably do 8.5° but is limited to prevent damage

[lyric copper]

new tier 8/9 premium LT tbh

put it in the game

[safe cedar]

Nah, TD

[lyric copper]

if tier 9, a mix between the Škoda T50 and BC25t AP

but with 350 alpha and long intraclip and clip reload to boot, as well as mediocre gun handling

[alpine gulch]

The only ones at the musee des blindes

[blissful cave]

Surprising how many tanks only have one surviving example and that’s it

Also for tanks with no surviving tanks they should make life size replicas that’d be cool they obviously don’t need to be anywhere as heavy (armor thickness) or complex on the inside (engine/crew compartment)
But this could also that could be taken out of hand pretty quickly by other museums making replicas of tanks with only 1 survivor taking away what makes a lot of tank museums unique like parola is famous for having the only BT-42 and that’s what brings them so many visitors and donations or somewhere like kubinka having THE maus and everyone wants to see the maus

Like a replica Neubaufahrzeug or other tank prototypes lost to time or hell even concept tanks never built imagine if more museums did replicas for tanks that don’t have an existing one

Something like this is just incomplete for the Kranvagn project the turret was never built but the hull was imagine if they just made a replica turret to put on there instead of just a little standee that has an image of what it was supposed to be

[safe cedar]

Sorry, but I don't need anyone to lecture me about AMX-50.

[alpine gulch]

Um I was just saying cause I have seen it

[safe cedar]

And I have Literally lived next to it for the majority of my life.

[alpine gulch]

Okay then…. You make one dang comment and they go off

[meager spindle]

i identify as an amx 50b

[safe cedar]

Its quite insulting when you attempt to informatively assert a seemingly basic fact, as if they knew nothing to someone who has studied said topic for roughly 12 years.

[safe cedar]

Well they need to re-add the missing wheels first tbh.

[alpine gulch]

You know what I didn’t ask. I just meant it as a comment

[remote kindle]

🤦‍♂️

[alpine gulch]

I did

[safe cedar]

Issue is space, just nowhere to put them.

[blissful cave]

It’s wack just how many tanks got scrapped instead of being saved for museums like a lot of the ones at parola say that they would’ve but luckily were saved

Like this destroyed T-70 that’s missing it’s cannon,in bad shape and I think has penetrated holes or I’m just confusing it with another one they have they themselves said it’s surprising this one was spared from being scrapped

Vickers and T-26’s are the ones they have the most of and some of them are heavily damaged but weren’t scrapped luckily

[safe cedar]

Even then, basically no tank gets put into a museum immediately, generally they sit exposed for atleast 10+ years.

AMX 50 is a funny exception to that

[blissful cave]

The ones at parola used to be sitting out in the open and degrading in bad condition but because of the BT-42 they received tons of donations to build a sort of shelter for them I heard it was because of girls und panzer

[balmy compass]

I read that the M6 (American heavy) after being put through trial was deemed unnecessary, so they scrapped all but 1 and put that 1 through some morale parades and then a museum

Or they went through some parades then scrapped all but 1, I forgot

[blissful cave]

Is there a surviving M6? Where?

[balmy compass]

I forgot
I just know not all were scrapped immediately

[safe cedar]

Now they need a full refit.

[blissful cave]

With our BT 42’s of the 18 built like half were destroyed in battle the other half scrapped except for the first one built I think the surviving one is the first built

[safe cedar]

They should lend it to saumur for a full refit

[balmy compass]

Lol, T1 heavy had a plane engine

[balmy compass]

Found out where it is

[blissful cave]

Ah of course it’s the one in Georgia

It’s where all the unique rare prototype tanks are which is cool

[balmy compass]

The webpage talked about the M6A2E1 Mutant too, which was neat to read on, but it didn’t have anything on the Super Mutant WG has in tier VIII (flat angled upper plate)

[blissful cave]

Yea the one with the bigger turret is real but I don’t think the flat hull is real

[blissful cave]

Hopefully they get more donations and funding to restore the tanks

[balmy compass]

The original design for the T1 Heavy had mounted guns for ever crew member ironically
But after looking at British training stuff they removed them

What’s with the swas, did a allied country capture that tank

Not literally allied nation, a country allies to Germany

[blissful cave]

Finland used the symbol even before nazees did (not sure if that word is censored here) but especially in the continuation war where Germany helped them they’d mark it all over their captured tanks to let German allies know it’s Finnish not Soviet

[balmy compass]

Pretty sure Germany didn’t use the swas on any of their tanks, but yeah, it makes enough sense for Finland to use it

[blissful cave]

Since they’d capture Soviet tanks don’t want to mix up a Finnish T-34 with a Soviet one
They also had their own camo design they’d use which was another thing to mark which are theirs

[balmy compass]

The air force too lol

[blissful cave]

They’ve used it in their armored corps since they’ve had tanks
But after WW2 they changed their symbol to the blue and white target looking one kinda like France has

[blissful cave]

Also I just had to take this picture in a museum for whenever someone tries to tell me the Finns were nazis

[balmy compass]

💀

[blissful cave]

Wait where’d my picture of the T-50 go? Did it get taken down

[balmy compass]

Probably because of the swas’s on it 💀
Despite it being historically accurate and such

[blissful cave]

Ah come on I thought it was allowed if it was in historical context

[lyric oriole]

There's a lot of historical context with that symbol

Too much context

[balmy compass]

So you can’t post the symbol with no context
But there is a limit to how much context you can apply?

[lyric oriole]

What I'm getting at

Is the symbol isn't allowed

[blissful cave]

Yeah but i wasn’t posting it in a bad way or even about the symbol at all just that the T-50 at parola is in bad rusting condition

[lyric oriole]

At all

For any reason

Draw a frowny face over it or something

Why are you so adamant on posting it anyway hmm?

[balmy compass]

Censoring historical facts perhaps
Plus it was in the rules as not publicizing nazism

[balmy compass]

Dang bruh that is scary looking 😭

[blissful cave]

Better?

[safe cedar]

because you can't censor my political beliefs

[blissful cave]

I had no intent to post it because of the symbols I didn’t even think about the fact they’re on there it’s how the tank was marked

[lyric oriole]

I don't care if you want a bottle of ketchup as your mayor

[safe cedar]

You missed one.

[blissful cave]

Ah dang it I did on one of the old photos in the back

[plucky summit]

Time for my photoshopping skills

[lyric oriole]

@blissful cave as someone who has to deal with the cleanup of people using any reason to try posting them, don't encourage them

[safe cedar]

I have a feeling i should never show my phones background.

[balmy compass]

[civic fiber]

[blissful cave]

Yea I am against the symbol when used for its bad purpose behind it not in a historic context way

But if it’s just simply old WW2 photos then I don’t think anything of it that’s just how things by Germany (or in this case Finland) were marked back then and stuff or when used in a way to teach history like in books or documentaries

[lyric oriole]

This isn't a history class or an educational server

[blissful cave]

Yeah but we talk about tank history or stuff about irl tanks quite a bit

[lyric oriole]

Bottom line, just don't, at least censor them. This isn't just a me thing, the whole team decided "no", to it over a year ago.

[blissful cave]

Yes I understand now that I know it’s not allowed period I will do that 👍🏻

[thorn girder]

I fixed it (Somewhat)

[dapper violet]

why badger low

[thorn girder]

Nah bro cuz it sucks yk

[meager spindle]

Isn't that just the ww2 Finnish national army symbol I'm seeing

[plucky summit]

It just doesn’t

[slim wasp]

Are French TDs tier 5-10 bad?

[kind flicker]

below average

[thorny smelt]

Meh

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/doc-holliday-differ-gif-21003102

[late spoke]

No it doesn’t lol

[winged sail]

why?

[vivid folio]

Noooo, tvp is only "good"

[cyan vigil]

Alright i want yall opinion on the CC 1 mk.2 and the minotauro, im a returning player and thought o nice tank but i find it

[vivid folio]

Tier 9 cc is meh, mino have good armour

But the gun is horrible

[wary violet]

Imma grind for E100

Watched a video on how to use the e100 so yeah

[vivid folio]

The E100 is a great vehicle to camp at the back of the map, it has a great camo and a very powerful gun able to penetrate most mediums

[devout orbit]

??? camping with heavy wow so good

[vivid folio]

Yeah, e100, maus, VK are all great for camping

[slim wasp]

American turreted TD good?

[trail laurel]

Yes

[zenith shadow]

Why foch and grille at the bottom? I dont think they are the worst

[zenith shadow]

No badger doesnt suck. Even i wish to get that.

[dim pollen]

Need tips for t54e1 medium tier 9 tank

[meager saddle]

E4 is more than descent

[solar rain]

whats the playstyle for this thing? got it for like 1k gold from box

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is Chi-Nu

(I’ll do that Austrian one when I have time to look into it more)

[bleak violet]

Hulldown mainly. You can kind of sidescrape but you have frontal weak spots. If you can hulldown at full gun depression you’ll be almost impenetrable. The gun is really bad right now, though, so be warned.

[dim pollen]

Anyone?

[solar rain]

gotcha. thanks for the tips

[undone star]

Suffer

[dim pollen]

Sigh....

[languid kiln]

Spent 800 gold on the container draw and got nun

[wary summit]

A decent tank too late

[lyric copper]

quite a few tanks did

[balmy compass]

I didn’t know
I still think it’s cool that the Abrams uses a jet engine

[lyric copper]

its a turbine engine, which all jet engines kinda are

[wary summit]

Other than the Abrams, STRV-103s and T-80s, are there any other tanks that use turbine engines?

[lyric copper]

the Leclerc uses a small turbine as a turbocharger

[blissful cave]

Agh I just realized I should’ve done panzer IV yesterday for T.O.D since that was girls und panzer anniversary

[tough plinth]

Should I focus on the Chinese TDs, Japanese Heavies, Swedish Heavies, Polish Heavies, Object 263 line, USSR IS4 line, or Italian Mediums?

Who ended up the most broken after the update?

[tough plinth]

Chi Nu Kai looks cool but too bad we never got to see how that new 75mm would do against Shermans.

Still has paper thin armor tho

[valid gale]

Sherman has the radial engine too

[balmy compass]

Fascinating

[valid gale]

The engine works same concept as the abrams turbine high output and acceleration although they dropped it later because the radial engine had a tendency to blow a piston whenever it was maxed out

[tough plinth]

Likely will never happen, but I hope Indonesia is able to restore our old Type 97 Chi-Ha tanks so they can be driven in parades

We have a Stuart showing up in every parade and there’s talks about restoring our Shermans

[blissful cave]

Yea the main thing about the Chi-Nu is that they built quite a few of them but they all had them saved ready for if the US ever invaded mainland japan but since there was no mainland invasion the Chi-Nu’s went unused

The US T95 was actually planned to maybe be used in invading japan

[lyric copper]

good luck shipping that thing over

[tough plinth]

That would be a terrible idea. Would break down before even seeing a Japanese tank

[blissful cave]

Yea lmao getting a super heavy across the world

[blissful cave]

But the Japanese tanks would probably get destroyed if the T95 just looked at em funny (they have zero armor or firepower)

[tough plinth]

Wonder how different WW2 in the Pacific would be if the Japanese Navy and Army actually got along

[lyric copper]

(nothing would have changed, they would have not been able to match the US in terms of manufacturing power)

[blissful cave]

Sherman factory go brrrrrrr

[tough plinth]

Here’s how the T95 would go in Japan

-Hits a mine and gets immobilized

That’s it. It would never enter battle after that.

[valid gale]

T95 already had logistics planned for it including should tracks require to be taken off there was specialized tools stored within the top of the extra track

[lyric copper]

IJN: IJA listen to us we need carriers to fight the USN!

meanwhile US dockyards churning out the 19th Essex-class CV of the day:

[tough plinth]

Sure but if we take account to Guadalcanal where the Navy and Army worked together to evacuate troops and evaded US warships, probably less lives lost in certain battles but certain places would find themselves with more troops and more experienced officers

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/sherman-tank-sherman-m4-m4sherman-stfu-gif-26740445 US to japan:

[tough plinth]

Then again, Tojo hates competent officers like Yamashita and Raizo Tanaka

[lyric copper]

its like saying 1939-1945 Germany could win in Europe against the combined manufacturing power of the US and USSR, and the economics of the US and UK

they simply wouldnt

also it wouldnt change the fact that the Manhattan Project would still be happening...

[tough plinth]

I have mixed feelings with Japanese officers. On one hand, many were horrendous and immoral

On the other hand, a Japanese Rear Admiral is the reason my country is able to declare independence from the Dutch

[valid gale]

The T29 was also planned to get an early gas turbine within the end of the 40s

[tough plinth]

T29 would’ve failed too

[blissful cave]

Yea I think T29 failed for being too heavy the US never really did well with heavies one of the reasons for lack of heavies being that they had to send all them over to Europe so heavier tanks were harder to transport

[balmy compass]

Imagine thinking you could win when you’re sandwiched between the largest country on earth and a country you can’t even invade

[stone garden]

Pretty fun tank to play once you get used to it, but not the best out there

[past wren]

guys, what happens if i get the free medjay and i already have it from last year?

do i get gold or credits?

[lyric copper]

500 gold compensation iirc

[iron berry]

T62A good?

[past wren]

thx

[lyric copper]

yes

@silver sage i require the funny 62A clip

[lyric copper]

@iron berry observe

[iron berry]

Ty

[lyric copper]

make a clip+highlights channel please

[silver sage]

[lyric copper]

oh he has a channel

and a 268 review

little quiet on the audio side ngl

[silver sage]

I’m aware lol, gonna fix it for next video

[lyric copper]

give us the 5A review

[wicked thunder]

I think my request should be honored

[tawdry crow]

is the wz113 any good ¿

[lyric copper]

its alright, but i lack a personal experience in the tank itself to call it good

also the 777 exists

[tawdry crow]

i have 777 the apcr now puts me off

[solid gate]

Hello,in store is now O-47 to buy,would you give it green light to buy or no or is just meh?

[plucky summit]

It’s meh. The gun is pretty standard and the armor is not impressive

[solid gate]

I got it,so what would be better variants?Raumpanzer,mk 5?

[plucky summit]

Cent 5/1 is easily one of the best tier 8 meds

[rich blade]

Honestly, its quite meh, I would recommend checking some YT Videos about the tank, before buying it (O-47)

[solid gate]

watched droodles yeah,just wanted to confirm

[solid gate]

there was him and škoda t8 autoloader i think.i missed it,was that good deal?

[rich blade]

Cent 5/1 is pretty good yea, and the Skoda is pretty fun because of the autolaoder, was probably a good deal yea

atm I wouldnt recommend any bundles besides the svear bundle in the shop (and that is not becaue of the tank)

[solid gate]

more like too expensive aight?

[rich blade]

The svear bundle ? Or what ?

@solid gate

[solid gate]

ah no sry

[solid gate]

this here in the () ?

[rich blade]

yea in the () I mean the svear bundle, its great because u can sell the svear for 2500 gold, means u buy the bundle for 3500 gold, sell the svear and bascically get 14 days of premium, 500k credits and 10 x5 exp booster for 1000 gold which is pretty damn solid

[solid gate]

rly u can sell him?

[honest rampart]

Whoever made this should know the names of the tanks they are talking about... It's an E 50 hull, not a Keiler hull. Secondly, it's Keiler, not Keller

[balmy compass]

that's not an E-50 hull

[honest rampart]

It is. You would say it's an E 75 hull, but this isn't correct. The Keiler (or E 75 TS in the imagine) has 3 pairs of ground wheels, which indicates that it's the hull of an E 50, because that also had 3 pairs of ground wheels, while the E 75 had 4 pairs.

I'm not gonna look at the exhaust or the Schürzen ofc

[wicked thunder]

It is very clearly not an E50 hull. Using the road wheels as you did, the spacing is different

[balmy compass]

^
Plus the tracks are massive

[honest rampart]

Couldn't find an imagine of the turret the E 50 uses in the game

[honest rampart]

I would say that the tracks are the same tbh

[balmy compass]

what about the length of both vehicles, and the fact that the E-75 TS and Keiler both have that weird vent that at the back

[honest rampart]

Can only compare the lenght in game, and yeah, the exhaust is different, but the exhaust that we find on the Keiler and E 75 TS is different then the one on both the E 50 and E 75

[wicked thunder]

So we conclude that it is a Keiler hull

[honest rampart]

Plus, if you do a little research about the real E 50 and E 75 you find out that the hull is for the most part the same. The biggest differences where the amount of armor and the amount of road wheels

[balmy compass]

I would conclude it's a E-75 TS hull because the Keiler came later

[honest rampart]

Well, both the E 75 TS and Keiler use the same hull, and saying that the Keiler came later doesn't make much sense, because the turret of the E 75 is unknown, only the chassis was designed

[balmy compass]

Keiler came later in game

[honest rampart]

Well yeah, but Wargaming and historcial accuracry isn't a good pair..

Nah, I'm just some idiot that cares way too much about German tanks

[balmy compass]

well I'm not referring to historically accurate things

[honest rampart]

Still, Wargaming probably wanted a new premium, so they just took the hull of an E 75 TS and designed a new turret for it, and thus creating a new tank, which lead to them getting money

[balmy compass]

yeah

[honest rampart]

I'm trying to point out that the E 75 TS and Keiler use the same hull. And I think the name E 75 TS comes from either the devs being too lazy to do a tiny bit of research and using the correct amount of road wheels, or they took the hull of an E 50, but to not confuse the playerbase named it E 75 TS, and not E 50 TS because the E 75 TS is a heavy, and the E 50 a medium. This is just my theory, but I can't think of anything logical as why this would happen.

[balmy compass]

you can pray that WG would fix their mistake if they give E-75 TS PBR

[honest rampart]

Yeah, and I'll sure do

[silent dock]

kran or 60tp

[honest rampart]

Depends, the Kranvagn is quite passive but constistent, the 60TP is really inacurate but can be played agressivly

[remote kindle]

Keiler is also called E75 RT by the way. Don’t know the source, it’s just there.

[dapper violet]

Wot pc is the source

[remote kindle]

Ah.

I have a hard time believing wg source even though they have access to stuff we don’t.

[safe cedar]

Lol, they dont.

[remote kindle]

Is that so? I belived they had a historian crew searching in archives?

[dapper violet]

They have google

[blissful cave]

And their imagination (there are a lot of made up tanks with zero basis)

[remote kindle]

No way.

Interesting.

Didn’t know Chevy did Panther’s. Lmao

Crazy.

Wait where’s the mg, i don’t see it.

[blissful cave]

Panther? All I see is a totally normal M10 Wolverine nothing suspicious about it

[remote kindle]

Pretty sure it’s a m3 priest

There’s alot of theories on this one.
It’s a german tank btw, not a captured one.

Yea.

[dapper violet]

To be fair this is blitz

And as long as the fake tank isn’t too outlandish it can be fun to play

[remote kindle]

But why aren’t we getting sandbag sherman’s? Or could be a skin for all i care

Even tracks sherman’s. 😎

[tepid lily]

This is just a StuG III without a muzzle break

[remote kindle]

With american stars and stuff in the tracks to make them look wider

[tepid lily]

Or are we trying to guess what tanks the Germans were trying to imitate?

[remote kindle]

Kinda, some say it wanted to imitate a m7 priest.

That

[meager spindle]

I think they just put stars on it, they probably would've done more like the ersatz panthers

[tepid lily]

This one kind of seems a bit of a stretch. At least with the Ersatz Panther, they tried to make it look like an M10. They didn't even try with this one

[remote kindle]

Probably, but this probably wasn’t factory built, more like a crew wanting to do the funny to the americans.

[meager spindle]

"hallo- I mean hello american comrades!"

[remote kindle]

Funny story, a german soldier asked for petrol to americans but forgor that americans call it gas

[tepid lily]

American troops be like: 🤨

[meager spindle]

Failed the quick time event

[remote kindle]

[meager spindle]

When we gonna have a Pershing version of

[remote kindle]

Am off to search stuff on the Forum of the snail 🫡

[meager spindle]

He's defecting!

[quiet juniper]

Hi I just got the vk90.01P from the draw chest. Is it a good tank or should I sell it?

[wicked thunder]

It’s good

[blissful cave]

That’s a stuG disguised as an American tank as part of that plan with the panther M10

[quiet juniper]

Okay ty

[blissful cave]

Yea the realistic fakes I’m perfectly fine with
my only problem is they don’t say anywhere which are made up causing confusion which are real or not

[sand prism]

Whats next line

[meager spindle]

They add lines in rotation, I think either a heavy, or light, forgot the order

[sand prism]

They should release good line

[meager spindle]

Udes 15/16 🙏🙏🙏

[sand prism]

Strv 103b aswell

[meager spindle]

103 line can't really work with blitz but the Udes could as it doesn't rely on hydraulics (which the type 71 equipment is filling in for) to operate

[safe cedar]

Im more shocked to see a chevrolet sign in France.

[sand prism]

True but it would be cool to see that and bring more future opportunities in the game, I just really like the strv 103b

[safe cedar]

New french line

[meager spindle]

Yeah it's one of my favourite MBTs for the pure concept of it, I think right now the game engine is what's not letting wg add them

[sand prism]

13 105 or some new French medium

[meager spindle]

What can be added that won't be repackaged as a t8 premium? (Within realms of reality)

[safe cedar]

Their are enough alterative AMX 50 & M4 variations that it's possible to fill an entire new line with solely them. They could also make a fast paper TD line using french turret concepts.
I have plenty more ideas.

As of current im thinking:
AMX 50 TCB
AMX AUF 1
AMX 13 105 or SK 105
AMX 30b2 (maybe brennus) or AMX-32
AMX 30 acra

[meager spindle]

Would the amx-40 be to far fetched? Iirc it's just an export model 30

[safe cedar]

not really, but I think AMX-32 covers it.

[meager spindle]

I forgot how nice the 32 looks ngl

[safe cedar]

I wonder if AMX 30 DCA would work, that would be really fun imo.

[meager spindle]

Maybe a silly little clipper like that one gun for at8

[wicked thunder]

BZ line

[sand prism]

Is it confirmed

[thorny smelt]

Leaked at the moment

[sand prism]

Oh cmon man

[meager spindle]

French brrrrt... hmmm "honhonhonhon"

[sand prism]

I wanted strv 103b. Whatever man. Atleast its an interesting line.

[sand prism]

Is that like some t10 you want

[safe cedar]

25 or 45 alpha?

[meager spindle]

Depends on clip size id say

[thorny smelt]

Also, change your profile pic

[wicked thunder]

Yes

[safe cedar]

kinda, not really, but it would be fun.

[sand prism]

Is it not allowed?

[thorny smelt]

It's in the #rules

[sand prism]

Oh ok 👍

[safe cedar]

For 25, probably two 15-round bursts or six 5-round bursts.

[meager spindle]

That'd work, but for now something I need to work on is my sleep, night everyone.

[sand prism]

Gn

[sand prism]

Where did u see leak?

[thorny smelt]

Probably it will branch out after Type 58 just like in PC

[sand prism]

Is it gonna have rocket boost?

[thorny smelt]

Probably. Not known yet for this game. Just no BZ-176 plssssss or I'll ask for T-103 for this game

[sand prism]

Bz 176 would be worse than smasher. Anyways, do yk where you saw leak? Sorry for asking lots of questions.

[thorny smelt]

It's been like more than a month.

[sand prism]

Oh alright.

[rotund gull]

THanks for this Post my Swiss Heart is happy

That is Lesta not "WG"

Witch Nation has this Tank served??

[wary summit]

Czechoslovakia

[trail laurel]

Actually it mounted on Obj.260 chassis

[stoic crag]

Guys jagdpanzer line or grille in the german td techtree? Which is better and please be so kind to elaborate your answer.

[wary summit]

I'd suggest the JagdE100 line. Less punishing while playing but also rewarding. The Grille line is better when you know positionings.

[halcyon lotus]

jagdpanzer e100 anyday. however, if you’re looking for a good tank destroyer as your first tier X td, get the t110e4 (usa) or obj. 268 (ussr)

[honest rampart]

Jagdpanzer E 100 is also quite beginner friendly tho

Maybe the Jagdpanther II not

[junior pawn]

Is the is 2 (1945) good? Compare to the tech tree one

[slim wasp]

I have zero knowledge on how to play TD, is soviet TD through obj 268 good for me? Or did i grind a wrong line?

[junior pawn]

Is a good line, best td line for beginners especially object 268 have 690 alpha in update 10.3.

[stoic mason]

Should I buy The T77 for 7500 gold

[dapper whale]

what are the best damage farming tech tree lines to grind in the game

[flat aspen]

can anyone explain the side armor of is7? i try to pen the side of is7 with my leo (90° shot), the bullets pen but dont do dmg

[wary summit]

The IS-7 has notoriously troll armour profile and spaced armour to boot

[remote kindle]

When thinking about it your right lmao.

[misty wing]

they really don't
and almost all of those are the collab stuff like Warhammer and Valkyria tanks

there are a lot of made-up tanks with some basis, however

[blissful cave]

What about ones like minotauro I doubt there’s any real basis for ones like those

[misty wing]

They're obviously not historical but they were clearly influenced by existing tanks - WG stated in their Development Diaries video that they tried to follow "the line of engineering thought" from the last design that did exist in order to create the rest of the branch - and you can see that the Minotauro turret design could potentially be inspired by the C1 Ariete

So yes they are some of the fakest out there, but the basis is not completely zero

And yes they do have a team of historians iirc

[blissful cave]

Yeah but they’re still made up without a historic basis other than making up something that kind of relates to a past tank
Point being minotauro and other tanks themselves never historically existed or had plans to but they don’t really say anywhere or at least easily accessible that they are made up

[misty wing]

They also stated that "American designs with some additions" formed the basis of the Italian TDs from tier 7 onwards.

They are unhistorical, yes. But they are designed on the basis of existing designs, not purely from imagination

[blissful cave]

They still write pretend historic context for it but don’t say that it’s just a “what if scenario” making it blend in with all the others and in order to prove it’s real have to dig deep into it to find any other source that mentions that name

Yes,being based on designs or how Italy would make modern TD’s is the idea and that’s pretty cool
But what I’m saying is that they don’t tell you which are these “what if” designs

[misty wing]

I mean, I don't get why you think they should

But a brief history of the tank when you view it in the garage should be available tbh

As I think it is on wot pc, but I could be wrong

[blissful cave]

Even something like (this design was made by wargaming) or something like “this tank isn’t a historic design” at the end any kind of marking that it was a tank made by wargaming for the game not one that already existed

[misty wing]

Sounds like you want a fake tank icon above the tanks that apply
Which would be a bit excessive imo

[blissful cave]

No just that at the end of the historic context description doesn’t need to be anything in game

[misty wing]

Honestly, you know what I think would be cool?
Imagine if WG declared that their game was just set in an alternative universe, and rewrote the history to feature some of their fake tanks, as well as fake armaments like jag 88 with a 105mm

The way WWII actually played out is pretty prohibitive to the designs of smaller nations

And then they make a movie to put it all in action or something

[blissful cave]

Yea that might even bet better just little mark (except not in game I just mean for the historic context part they write for these)

They don’t even have to call them fake they could just call them wargaming designs

.
Sometimes a tank being in the game makes trying to find information on it really hard like I really wanted to find proof Stridsvagn K was actually a real plan sweden had (putting centurion turret on Kran hull since that was actually built) and sure the first result was wargaming saying they did but since they write history descriptions for the tanks that never existed you can’t trust those

Same with Tornvagn I was about to give up and consider it fake after several days of searching until someone found the blueprints somehow even though I was looking at the same site Swedish archives (now they’re easily available on Google images if you search Tornvagn but not at this time)

All could be avoided if they just mark which designs they added based on real ones or which ones are the “what if” designs (in the history description also this would make the descriptions for the real existing tanks more of a credible source)

[misty wing]

My point is that "designs based on real ones" and "what if designs" fall into the same category, lol

It goes real -> fabricated design with some basis -> completely fake

[blissful cave]

Yes I know but they are different from tanks that historically did exist that’s the separation I’m saying
Ohhh wait I see the mistype I made

[misty wing]

Honestly though there's so many lines you can draw

Could probably make a tier list with like 10 tiers for historical level lol

[blissful cave]

Which designs they see in archives that actually were concepts and add to the game*
Like they saw Sweden actually had plans to mount the centurion turret on kranvagn so they added it into the game
Rather than “what if Italy kept making tank destroyers after the semovente and bassotto and make their own designs based on them (but Italy irl didn’t make those designs)

So in short which concepts they added because they found actual proof of and which designs they made

[misty wing]

1. Mass produced tank
2. Limited production tank
3. Completed prototype
4. Incomplete prototype
5. Wooden mockup phase
6. Detailed blueprints
7. Fabricated based on line of thought
8. Frankenstein designs
9. Completely fake

[blissful cave]

Yea but you’d be able to shorten that to
Real
Fabricated based on thought
Completely fake

[misty wing]

I'm just saying it could be fun to do

[blissful cave]

Even something like the concept 1B where it only existed as a drawing on a piece of paper is still considered real since it was drawn for/by the army for consideration

[blissful cave]

Yea that would be fun to categorize all the tanks into all those

Like probably my favorite tank of each category to go though it real quick would be

Mass produced tank-Pershing
Limited production tank-BT-42 (18 built) and Neubaufarzeug (5 built)
Completed prototype-T95
Incomplete prototype-Kranvagn
Wooden mockup phase-Lansen
Detailed blueprints-Tornvagn
Fabricated based on line of thought-T110E4
Frankenstein designs-Strv K
Completely fake- O-47? Not sure which “realistic looking fakes” are the ones based on thought this one means the purely fantasy ones right

[misty wing]

Yeah completely fake is just fantasy, there might be a realistic tank in there but I can't think off the top of my head

[blissful cave]

The ones like warhammer and Halloween

[misty wing]

Should be a side tier for "modified real", like smasher and Dracula

[blissful cave]

Yeah and battle pass/season tanks that are just reskins of existing ones but with a new name

[misty wing]

Honestly CS-63 feels as fake as it can get

It doesn't even resemble other designs like the Minotauro does

Also if war gaming's fake history for it is to be believed, it doesn't even deserve to be a tier 10 imo

"Meant to replace the t-34-85, then canceled because the T-55 came out and they could just buy that"

[blissful cave]

When T-55 is a tier 9

T-55M would be a pretty cool Finnish tier 10
It’s an upgraded modernized T-55 but it was done after the timeframe so I dunno if it’d be allowed then,if the original tank is within timeframe then maybe? I dunno

It’s mainly just more advanced equipment and visually they have the kinda rubber sideskirts so not sure how it’d translate to being better in game when physical qualities are what matter more (gun size,armor thickness etc more accurate wouldn’t be enough of a difference)

WZ-121 and 121B are kind of just T-55’s and they’re fit for tier 10

[misty wing]

I'd rather they add the Chonma-Ho, north Korean tank lol

[wicked thunder]

115mm smoothbore gun

[shadow crag]

T34 gang

[safe cedar]

You forgot limited mass production.

[blissful cave]

What would be the difference between mass production and limited production or examples of those,either they made a lot of them or they didn’t make many because of deciding to not fully using the design or couldn’t make that many

Like if they made a hundred or so I’d still consider that mass production tank sure obviously not as much as Sherman or T-34 but still a mass produced tank

Like limited production could be like my two examples of Neubaufahrzeug where they only built 5 because it was somewhat of a completed prototype but still built five and used it but based on that they decided that many small panzers were better than the big multi gun tanks or BT-42 where it was built out of mounting a new built turret onto a captured tank so they couldn’t just “make one whenever” and also Finlands limited tank production ability since they mainly captured or bought tanks and not produced themselves
Main reason usually is not enough confidence in the design but still want to build and use/try it

Oh also that reminds me what should todays tank of the day be (I’ll do the Austrian suggestion when I get home,probably tomorrow)

[robust orchid]

Any tips on how to use the Caliban better? Its 🅱️ESH is not 🅱️ESHing right

[dapper violet]

T77?

[blissful cave]

I don’t think T77 is real but I’ll check if it is then I’ll do it

[dapper violet]

Jagdtiger?

[balmy compass]

get close and ambush

[blissful cave]

Jagdtiger has been done (a lot of tanks have but it’d be impossible to list em all)

[balmy compass]

search "tank of the day" in #vehicles-discussion lol

[wicked thunder]

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar-us-120mm-gun-tank-t77/amp/

[digital fog]

My excitement level

[robust orchid]

For a heavy tank with low elevation and...modest mobility in a tier full of goblins, I don't think that'd work well, I've tried that but it just doesn't seem to work right

Also, I've noticed that the HESH shells will lowroll more often than expected, despite clearly hitting the most vulnerable part of a tank and with calibrated shells equipped. Yet it only deals ~280 damage

[digital fog]

IM luckiest person ever. I got 1 day premium In A row

[blissful cave]

Yea I looked up T77 and that came up so it looks like the tank is real
So T77 is todays tank of the day

[balmy compass]

you failed to penetrate then, which isn't surprising as you can aim at one tank but hit another tank with the accuracy Caliban has

[dapper violet]

It’s real what

[robust orchid]

With 187mm of penetration and a distance of ~100m...I failed to penetrate a Pershing's rear hull? Although I also have to put into the factor that most of these lowrolls I got came from when I shot lightly armored tanks, but with far better results on thicker armor.

I dealt ~980 damage to a T77 from the front with the HESH, but significantly lesser post-penetration performance when I shot HESH at lighter armor, such as the Prog. and Borsig

[digital fog]

I don't think so it's real

[balmy compass]

you missed the rear plate lol

you might have shot some spaced armor on the Prog
and the Borsig has spall liner reducing all HE damage

[robust orchid]

E h
Jesus Christ, I could've sworn I hit that rear plate, this thing sure is just the KV-2 on a higher tier

[blissful cave]

Before I make a post for it I’ll read through that and see if there’s enough to believe it’s real if not I’ll just pick another tank

[trail pewter]

Mods ?!

[dense dagger]

what wrong with that

am i the only one who likes to play tier fives for the nostalgia

[honest rampart]

Stop being a sealclubber

Unless you play in a Nightmare ofc, then I can understand it

[shadow crag]

I love clubbing seals

[blissful cave]

I love to play some 6 and lower tanks because they’re actually tanks I like irl like that’s where most of the early WW2 tanks are like Sherman’s,KV-1,T-34’s,T-28,Jackson the Finnish vickers and a bunch of other fun ones like tog and Churchill VIII

I don’t care if people only want me to play tier 8-10 I’ll play whatever tanks I like for fun

[safe cedar]

Limited mass productions are tanks that saw serial production, but only for a short time and for a relatively short period, for example IS-4. Limited production tends to be inconsistent, individually made examples or conversions.

[blissful cave]

Would BT-42 be considered one of these since they were a conversion of captured BT-7s with a new Finnish built turret
But were all built at about the same time

I think it’s so cool to see an image of nearly all of them in one place and more than one

[junior pawn]

Is the is-2 (1945) any good? Compare to tech tree one

[safe cedar]

Its debatable, because while the quantity wasnt mass production, the methods of production absolutely was.

[blissful cave]

I’d consider it limited production since they couldn’t make that many

[safe cedar]

So is shark

[safe cedar]

I probably would too, however I would consider something like ARL limited mass production.

[blissful cave]

And even if they wanted to mass produce a ton they really couldn’t since it depended on the hulls of a specific captured tank

Unless they’d somehow find a way to reproduce their own copy of the BT hull

[safe cedar]

Fair

Sometimes their are sufficient stock of captured tanks though to remanufacter them in mass.

[blissful cave]

Yeah they had tons of BT-7’s but they didn’t like them as is so that’s why they overhaul modified em into something (in theory) more useable (it wasn’t really a success since the shells were defective and even that aside it wouldn’t have really been the best setup to be a successful design
they didn’t really want to use them in the state they were in

[dense dagger]

cope

[safe cedar]

I think their gun selection was poor tbh

[robust orchid]

Never

[blissful cave]

Yea it wasn’t something intended for that purpose it was just doing with an old howitzer they already had

[topaz ore]

Löwe is actually now?

[blissful cave]

Basically they wanted to recreate something like the KV-2 out of what they had which were light tank hulls and an old kinda outdated howitzer and also try to make anti tank shells for said howitzer but they came out defective

So overall there really was an attempt to try something and make it work but it was…I wouldn’t say doomed to fail but can’t think of another way to word it

[visual badge]

hey guys should i buy this? i have (8k gold)

[foggy cloud]

Ye

[visual badge]

aight thanks for the advice

[honest rampart]

Cringe

[blissful cave]

Or maybe it was doomed to fail and I just don’t want to admit it but at least they tried and I like that they did👍🏻

We should get a channel for talking about tanks themselves like history or discussing irl tanks general blitz and general are too crowded and filled with conversations of multiple things at once and just a little too general

Vehicle discussion is kinda just the closest thing for that talking about tanks but I guess this place is actually supposed to be talking about in game stats and comparing them or something

[wary summit]

IS-2 (1945) and the Chinese IS-2 don't really have much difference between them except for the IS-2 (CN) having slightly better armour and HEAT rounds as premiums, which can pen the Tiger 2 with CS

If you're referring to the Russian IS-1, just the same except a poorer armour profile and slightly better dpm

[junior pawn]

Ah, thx for the info

[lime schooner]

Haven’t played it in awhile, but did they nerf the gun depression on the Arl

[stoic crag]

@halcyon lotus Thank you for your advice, i do appreciate it.

[lyric copper]

no

[steady egret]

prefer bourrasque as prem HT is avg, T34, Bisonte/T54E2 are more reliable in the same rol and tier

[steady egret]

IS2 prem is literally a IS, the IS2 is worse due to 400 gun has no dpm (15 sec aprox), sad accuracy like 152mm kv2, and the 280 gun is neither a option, has everything worse than the 400 one except dpm

[wicked thunder]

T77 is one of, if not the best heavy at tier 8 lmao

[somber hawk]

Give Foch 155 a 1.5s interclip and 640 alpha

[lone sage]

best performing T8 tanks, among 45%-55% WR players, that should give you an idea

and I would say the autoloader, armor and overall style makes it even better if you are a 60%+ player, because it has more skill involved

[alpine gulch]

Guys Whar best tank

[visual badge]

thank you for sharing your opinion highly appreciate it !

[misty wing]

Would you classify Ferdinand as limited production

[misty wing]

Historically it shouldn't have looked as it does in game though, as it was meant to be purely the T57 turret attached to a M48 (or T54?) hull

[blissful cave]

Yeah in game it just looks like a T57 in tier 8

[misty wing]

I mean you can clearly see that it has a different turret and gun, even though they are very similar

[blissful cave]

Yea but just general looks

[misty wing]

Sadly the real-est one of all, T58, is not in game

[safe cedar]

Limited mass production.

[remote kindle]

I mean they built the ferdinand on the left over tigerp hulls. So it was limted to a certain amounts. Around 90 were built.
Why would they even make more tiger p hulls.
Only 1 tiger p actually served in the war.

[blissful cave]

Reading through the T77 thing in short it looks like it was supposed to be a lighter armored version of the T57 turret onto an M48 hull

Haven’t done T57 heavy yet so I’ll explain it was related to that even though I haven’t done that tank yet but that’s fine I’ll do it soon I’m looking forward to that one I think T57 is really cool

Mini mock-up image

[misty wing]

We'll never know

But what I'm certain of is that it should look much more similar to the T57 than what it does in game

[remote kindle]

They could have used a lighter metal but still get the same thickness.

[blissful cave]

But a lighter version does sound more like what they’d want since the T57 already does that and the US doesn’t really like heavy tanks anyway

So being mountable on the M48 Patton hull sounds a lot more like something they’d do than on a heavy hull like the M103 or whatever hull the T57 uses

[safe cedar]

Unlikely

[misty wing]

M48A2/T54E2/T123E6

[blissful cave]

The accurate turret designs just look like bigger T69 turrets

[safe cedar]

Why not just research m48 & m103 turret ring sizes?

[misty wing]

Both 85 inches.

[safe cedar]

Thats sad, but that basically means that the T57 & T77 turrets were likely identical

[misty wing]

Why is it sad

[safe cedar]

that m103 has the same size turret ring. In otherwords its basically inherently redundant.
(Btw check balance discussion).

[blissful hamlet]

Well, in game, both have the same turret names, T169

[slim wasp]

Which line should i go?

[chrome harness]

Vk 45.03 is so underrated

[chrome harness]

What’s your playstyle with TDs?

[slim wasp]

Idk how to play TD just trying it😂

[misty wing]

268, unless you're a masochist

but even then, 268 because the tanks have PBR

[slim wasp]

Oh ok thanks for the info. I guess will try 268 then. It keeps getting good comments everytime i asked about TD😬

[misty wing]

it's got 690 alpha so it's pretty fun

[halcyon lotus]

268 since it’s more newbie friendly compared to the 263

[trail laurel]

Grind 263 it easier to grind and play😈😈😈

[chrome harness]

268 is more sniping while 263 is most frontline

[meager spindle]

both can frontline

[tiny zodiac]

In WoT B.U.G.I's gun do 410 damage and 65 pen. In Blitz it's absolutely boring and normal gun.

[sand prism]

Rheinmetall Panzerwagen as a new line?

[wary summit]

Who knows, maybe it's the next line batch rotation

[thorny smelt]

BZ-75 line might be the next one

[remote kindle]

Or if wg feel generous a french mediums line

[meager spindle]

sad the t10 couldn't be 30b and proto

[thorny smelt]

Might as well make the BC 25t a medium line and AMX 13 105 the light tank line

[amber fern]

Is7 is just built different

[meager spindle]

that would make the BC the lightiest lightium that ever lighted

wotb when (99% joke)

[blissful cave]

It could be another funny premium like tog

If tog can be in the game then this one can too

[meager spindle]

wouldn't even have 360 traverse from the looks off it

[remote kindle]

Or they could introduce the first two turrets tank 😮

[meager spindle]

makes me imagine kpz 70 with working 20mm

[remote kindle]

Maus and e100:

[meager spindle]

them to

Amx 30b:

[remote kindle]

Hmm.

[meager spindle]

chi-ri with hullmounted little pewpew

[remote kindle]

Too bad we can’t have nice things.

[thorny smelt]

With 69 kmph max speed

[meager spindle]

should only do 50 max ingame and thats on the high end as irl that would probably be it's limiter

[remote kindle]

With the autoreloader. ( the dpm gonna be insane )

[meager spindle]

(it's a reverse shell autoreloader)

[remote kindle]

Pretty sure it’s an autoloader.

[thorny smelt]

That would be insaaane

[meager spindle]

im kidding, (PLEASE LEAVE IT AS A SINGLESHOT WG)

[remote kindle]

I mean, if they give the kpz the autoloader kpz is gonna have 4 dep. If we are using historical stats.

[meager spindle]

pretty sure the autoloader system russian cheese slope tractors use was similiar to the kpz's atleast in practice of how it worked

[remote kindle]

I think kpz used that funny transmission to gain depression on hills.

[meager spindle]

transmission? you mean funny suspension the stb-1, type 71, strv 103 (pls when) and udes 15/16 (plz when) use

[remote kindle]

Yea. That.
Suspension, english ain’t good.

My brain sometimes have a breakdown when using English.

[meager spindle]

same, and i should know english perfectly

[remote kindle]

I wish i knew english, i barely speak it.

[meager spindle]

me when german (i forgot 90% of it)

[remote kindle]

Me when i am in the only territory in the whole North America that speak french.

[meager spindle]

canada moment

[remote kindle]

Canada speaks english, it’s just that i am from Quebec. The ohio of canada.

[meager spindle]

truely a moment of all time

[remote kindle]

Oui.

[meager spindle]

Ja.

[remote kindle]

Ja, du sprisch Deustch?

Ich verstehen tiny bit of deutsch.

[meager spindle]

nitch viel

[remote kindle]

Anyways, back to english.

[whole frigate]

what is better the AMX 30 B, the Somua SM, or the T77. (I love autoloader and do well in them i have the B.C. 25 T, AMX 50 B, T57 Heavy, M-VI-YOH, FV4005, and TVP 50/51 as my tier tens.) p.s. i would have to sell the AMX 30 B.

[halcyon lotus]

don’t sell the 30b unless you don’t like it. 30b is an incredibly strong tank now

[whole frigate]

ok thanks

i remember the 30 B getting trashed so i figured i'd ask. i'll keep it

[molten plinth]

No, lol

[halcyon lotus]

30b now has 3.5K dpm with rammer and provisions (compared to before which had 2.7K), good mobility and troll armor

[misty wing]

Québécois

[molten plinth]

Dmp and what?
50/50 armor? And just a regular mobility for a medium tank.

[wicked thunder]

It has 3rd best mobility for a tier 10 med iirc

[halcyon lotus]

wish 30b had its 65 km/h mobility back

[wicked thunder]

You seem to know very little about the tank you are talking about here

[molten plinth]

🙂
I've played on this "tank" more than 50 battles before 10.3 and at least 15 after 10.3

[wicked thunder]

And you still get it’s stats wrong 🤦‍♂️

[meager spindle]

why did bro put tank in ' " 's

[molten plinth]

🥹

[unreal crescent]

Chariotier is very good td i liked it

[unreal crescent]

I remembered the guy named Trofimich228

This guy

[tawdry crow]

how different do the teir 9 bc and amx play ?

[worldly veldt]

hey can someone help me pls i have problem with my wot i start wot and a few second it stoped

[lapis anvil]

OP in T8

Hard to get credits through masteries as its quite high xp bar. But other than that its just a regular premium

[tawdry crow]

@solid gate for best results platoon so ur not vulnerable in the clip reload

[stoic finch]

is obj 268/4 good

[woven sail]

gun for X yoh and hull looks like T57, best of 10 tanks in tier VIII

[misty wing]

@blissful cave you're gonna get a kick out of this one

[blissful cave]

?
Chinese T-72?

Otherwise not a fan of Chinese tanks

[misty wing]

Kick as in you won't like it lmao

[blissful cave]

I don’t really mind it it’s not like I don’t like it or dislike it being added it’s just simply a tech tree I won’t really go for wasn’t really interested in VZ or CS63 either

[misty wing]

Should be a premium

[blissful cave]

Strv 103 tho is the main one I want to see

[misty wing]

It sounds like it would be absurdly difficult to play in blitz tbh

[blissful cave]

Yea but looking through the tier 10’s of wot pc it’s kinda the only one I’d be like “oh I can’t wait for that one to come over”

There are tons of other tanks I want added like T-50 is a tank I like and is a tier 5 Soviet light tank in PC but not in blitz

[warm oyster]

E-100 or Maus?

[lyric copper]

VK72

[warm oyster]

why

[lyric copper]

its better than both

[wicked thunder]

Tbh VK > Maus > E100 at this point imo

[warm oyster]

then im going to sell this tank

[wicked thunder]

Don’t, keep it

[warm oyster]

so whats the best germany tank?

?

[wicked thunder]

Right now it’s the Leo 1, though that takes skill to play. The easiest one that’s good is the VK72

[blissful cave]

Alright new day new tank what’s it gonna be

[blissful cave]

Oh yea as promised SK-105 will be todays tank of the day

[solid gate]

Hello,what to grind from these ---Jageru,E50M,140,50/51 or 25t?

[wary hamlet]

Which coin vehicle is best?
Is6 or FCM 50t?

[lyric copper]

neither

[wary hamlet]

M4a1 rev?

[lyric copper]

not really

[balmy compass]

the correct answer is the Lansen C

[keen trail]

Agreed

[worldly veldt]

hi i have problem with my WoTb like i started the game it stoped i play on pc steam and reinstal do not working and DAVAproject also

[true socket]

e100 is amazing rn

[wicked thunder]

I believe it, and I don’t think the E100 is bad, it’s just that the heavies around it have been buffed to kind of a ridiculous point

I really don’t think you can go wrong with a German super heavy at this point

[true socket]

Yeah. It just feels really comfortable to play rn with the peekaboom gun, insane heat pen, good reverse, and relatively good armor now that a lot of tanks got their pen nerfed

[sand prism]

Anyone know when next line will be released

[lyric copper]

only WG knows that and they won’t be telling you

[velvet gull]

KpZ 07 RH needs like an extra 20 alpha

[blissful cave]

YEEAGH let’s GO! Finally got another ace in the Tornvagn
I needed one more for ranks

[meager spindle]

time to figure out ur name

[lyric oriole]

What is that low quality screenshot

@blissful cave also you do know you can import switch screenshots to your phone right?

[blissful cave]

Yea I know I can do that but I just wanted a quick picture

My username? What about it?

[lyric oriole]

No clue, was wondering if they were using a flip phone or something with such a low res screenshot

[onyx sorrel]

Hmm
Any opinions about the
CS63 yet or to early to judge?

[blissful cave]

I was probably gonna make my in game name Galarian quest but if you play on switch then it just starts it as your switch profile and I’d have to pay to change it

[wicked thunder]

It’s fun

[onyx sorrel]

Hmm i c
I dont really know how to use it i just treat it like a medium tbh

[wicked thunder]

Well that’s good because it is a medium

[onyx sorrel]

Ye i know but i have a tvp i like to hide behind my teammates

[meager spindle]

Dunno why yours in higher quality

Although it might be snipping tool being goofy

[native wagon]

Best way to play Pz. V/IV?

[shrewd oriole]

Are Russians heavy bad rn than the other nations?

[wicked thunder]

No

[shrewd oriole]

Any recommendations on heavy which one is worth grinding? Not the German line

[blissful cave]

T57 Heavy is probably my favorite but it’s the only heavy in both of the paths that lead to it it’s all lights and mediums
For a line that’s actually all heavies probably IS-7

Dang people don’t like Tornvagn my beloved but why

I was looking through all the coming soon tanks that haven’t been released yet we have pawlack,Charlemagne,cobra,Strv 81 and that Chinese tier 10 something 114?

[balmy compass]

The gameplay is toxic to play against

[blissful cave]

And then the ones they didn’t show but we know about like XM66

[balmy compass]

But for most people it is also really boring to play

[blissful cave]

Funny no turret go brrrr

[balmy compass]

WZ-114 SP 2

[blissful cave]

But while playing it I can see it’s balancing drawbacks it’s very slow,has insanely slow turret traverse and is inaccurate with too long of a reload intentionally trying to ace it is a frickn pain I just like playing it for fun

[lavish phoenix]

Because it has stupidly good armor and high alpha

[blissful cave]

But it’s design and the tank itself I dunno why it’s is just my favorite if it was actually built it’d so be my top favorite tank (but its blueprints are real tho)

[true socket]

my graphing calculator has higher resolution than your phone

[meager spindle]

funny considering thats snipping tool on pc

[blissful cave]

Dang it’s wack how kampfpanzer 07 was the most recently announced tank and it came out so quick

[blissful cave]

Oh and the IS-2 shielded lmaoooo
They must’ve forgotten about it completely that was over a year ago it was announced alongside M IV Yoh

[true socket]

this your setup?

[blissful cave]

💀

[kind flicker]

im so confused with this picture

[full holly]

It's for ergonomics

[blissful cave]

Me when I get shot by 183

[dim pollen]

IS 7
Kranvagn
AMX 50B

[blissful cave]

Ohhh kranvagn is my other favorite heavy I just forgot since the line is only half heavy since only the 3 Emil’s are heavy (kranvagn is also known as Emil 3)

[lavish phoenix]

The Emil’s are all really good. The Kran didn’t need the buff this update but it is nice that it got it.

[prime eagle]

O-47 need a autoloader...

[kind flicker]

it need more mobility

[twin verge]

Why is it that the polish mediums are absolute terrible trash and heavies are just too good man

[meager spindle]

wg not giving the cs line turbo mode which would make them unique and worth it

[twin verge]

Just overall the speed is mid, the armor is non-existant and even the gun sucks

50TP-60TP both deal 500-700 with tungsten and the front armor is almost impenetrable with any other heavy like my kran, IS-8 or wz-114

[lapis anvil]

“KV2 should played as a redline sniper”- change my mind

[lyric copper]

POV: you are too used to tanks being OP and made for morons

[shrewd oriole]

How do you play these soviet TD? Im averaging 3k damage per match still lose. It's like im playing 1v7

[late rain]

ammo rack t57 :>

[small cypress]

I do not know quite recently on the t-62a of the Soviet ST I inflicted 5700 and this is a drain.

[zenith shadow]

It’s beautiful

[true socket]

nobody who does 3k average would ask that so you are probably lying

[digital fog]

Guys is constellation event still active?

[shrewd oriole]

Try play tier 5-6 TD you'll understand what i mean

[balmy compass]

tier V-VI is completely unpredictable whenever I play it

[wicked thunder]

If you were averaging 3k in tier 5-6 then you wouldn’t need to ask how to play lmao

[true socket]

oh, t5-6, so you are just lying

wild how players lie about their stats to beg for pity

[solid gate]

Should I run rammer or calibrated on the mle 54

[patent perch]

Best IS7 Equipment?

[limpid agate]

Is the caliban considered decent?

[plucky summit]

No

[solid gate]

It's fun but it has terrible velocity, no armor, no mobility but the hesh pen is amazing, dealing 860 to heavies' lower plate is fun

[limpid agate]

Well thanks for replying me I guess

[wise moth]

Rammer. Always rammer

[solid gate]

Yea I tried calibrated and the reload costed me once so I'm back to rammer cuz the pen was always satisfactory

[fast grove]

ig wg is making armor more towards the extremes, either u easily pen or u cant pen with premmo

like how they nerfed 215b and e5 hulls and buffed turrets

[rigid oyster]

Random take, but I dislike the chimera.

[wise moth]

Armor has always worked like that. Not many targets live right on the cusp of penetrability. Most targets are either things you will never pen (upper plates, mantlets, etc…) or things you will always pen (lower plates, sides, rears, paper tanks)

[wise moth]

Based take

[rigid oyster]

Nuh uh

[fast grove]

ye
cali helps sometimes tho, i noticed i can pen alot more frontal hulls with hesh on a 215b with cali

[rigid oyster]

What's y'all's favorite tier X tank?

For me, it's the VK 90 or the T22

[fast grove]

hm

[blissful cave]

I want to make todays tank of the day that Finnish comet modification but hardly anything is known about it or even any pictures other than that blurry one

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/finnish-84-mm-comet-tank-destroyer-project-panssarintorjuntavaunu-comet-84-mm-tykillä.42104/ this is like the only thing I found that actually talks about the tank so I may just have to use this

[plucky summit]

Charioteer deformation

[blissful cave]

In short it says it was made because they wanted to upgrade their charioteers with bigger guns and then would mount the leftover charioteer guns onto the comets upgunning both tanks at once

But the turret looks to be new too

So I’ll just do this as a tank of the day but with a grain of salt for what limited information exists on it

At least there’s more information provided (assuming this is true) than for Strv K which the only Information to exist is “they thought of putting a centurion turret on the kranvagn hull but decided nah”

[blissful cave]

Imagine if we got this finnish comet modification as a tier 7 premium or something (7 or 8?)

Or that and the 42 could be both marked as tank destroyers (this comet upgrade’s purpose was to be a TD) and then have some improvised designs added to make a Finnish tech tree line

Also found this (not sure how true it is) but this could be even more material to make Finnish tanks in the game out of

They made the bisonte out of nothing the “source” was a conversation with i forget who of Italy saying they want a “modern heavy tank with a low profile” so the name,design and everything was made up by wargaming based on those (very vague) qualities

[zenith shadow]

sorry for crappy graphics but what the heck happened to k-91 on pc

[blissful cave]

It’s rear turreted?

[zenith shadow]

yeah and a tier X

[blissful cave]

And it’s a medium

[zenith shadow]

oh yeah here is the entire british line

where i mentioned conqueror and badger got add in replaced the others

[blissful cave]

Badger makes more sense as the AT line tier 10 heavily armored turretless rapid fire TD
183 is like the opposite weakly armored turreted huge damage per shot TD

[remote kindle]

There’s 3 k91 project. A rear turreted one, a front turreted one ( blitz one ) and a tank destroyer if i remember.

It’s an SPG my bad.

But the Wot K91 t10 is innacurate btw.

Technically speaking the wotb K91 is more accurate then the wot one.

Tank encyclopedia speaks about those and wot inaccurate one

[ember kindle]

How do i check if a sold tank has 100% crew? (I cant buy it again, it's a tier 10 and i dont wabt to waste money)

[lyric oriole]

@zenith shadow it gets better

The console version has the turret in the front

While blitz has the turret center mounted

At the initial release it was like that

[honest rampart]

Why did you even sell it ;-;

[honest rampart]

Either the Leopard 1 or FV4005

Although the -10 hm/h reverse of the FV4005 really kills the fun. The Leopard 1 is just perfect tho

[ember kindle]

I performed poorly in it

I figured it out, 84%
I have to farm 5 MILLION coins just to buy it again...
Let's hope the 10.3 buff is worth it..

[honest rampart]

Which tank are you talking about?

[blissful cave]

I sold vickers light and jag e 100 to afford more ranks for Strv K I’ll just buy em back later they’re like the two tier 10s I never use

[honest rampart]

Why. Do. You. Sell. Tanks. For. Ranks.

Let me guess, you wasted $400 on the Stridsvagn and now want to make every jealous?

[blissful cave]

It and Tornvagn are my two favorite tanks I have so I just get ranks for em for fun

And lansen too which is my most played tank
I’m at 40 for lansen with ~750 battles
But 600 for Tornvagn rank 44
And 38 for Strv K in only ~240 battles (xp multipliers)

[honest rampart]

In that case I guess I can kinda understand it. Although tier X ranks cost like 130.000 credits each, so just rank 10 already costs 1.300.000 credits.... So I rly wouldn't sell any tanks for just ranks.

[blissful cave]

I can always just get those tanks that I don’t use later

[honest rampart]

Am rank 34 in my Tiger I and 20 in my Pudel :/

[ember kindle]

I sell tanks for tanks

[blissful cave]

And I always use xp multipliers for tanks I want to rank since I’m at a point where I have the tech trees I want and have more free xp than I know what to do with so if I want to unlock a tank I use FXP

[honest rampart]

Still, you paid 12.000.000 credits for those and only got 6.000.000 credits back

[ember kindle]

Btw i looked it up on blitz hangar, they gave me equipment and stuff so it was 100%

[honest rampart]

Yeah same. Sold my Chieftain Mk. 6 for my Leopard 1, and I have zero regret, the Leopard 1 is amazing..

[ember kindle]

Tbh i farm a line
Get to the tier 10
Get it to 100% crew
Keep it for a bit if it's fun
Sell it
Onto the next line

Im at my 7th tier 10
8th in a week or so

[honest rampart]

I don't even max the crew, but I also don't sell my tier X's. (expect the FV215b (183) cause that's just trash)

[blissful cave]

I just keep all the ones I like and don’t just do tech trees if I have no reason to if I just simply don’t want any of the tanks on there maybe I’ll do it later for completion

[honest rampart]

I got 2 in 1 day 💀

[ember kindle]

It's not the best strategy but im not the best player out there and kepps me going bc selling a tier 10 brings in the credits i need to fun the next line

[ember kindle]

I could research it now but i still have to 100% my ho ri, get it to rank 10, get 2 million credits, sell it, sell, the cc 1 mk2 then research it and buy the minotauro

[blissful cave]

• lansen (most played) and Kranvagn I’m definitely a Swedish main and if they add Strv 103 I’d SO use that I love that tank

I have every Swedish tank in the game in my garage (except turbo the battle pass reskin but I don’t count that plus it’s hideous and I don’t like it)

[honest rampart]

Stridsvagn 103 would be straight up OP. Auto bounce upper plate, no real hatches and hydrolical suspension...

[blissful cave]

But soon Strv 81 is coming and I won’t hold that title for long since I’m not gonna buy crates (especially for what is literally just centurion marked as Swedish)

[honest rampart]

Aight folks, I'm gonna sleep. 2am is late enough for me. Was fun talkin'

[remote kindle]

Playing with the words, it’s placed in the front.

[meager spindle]

i'd like the thing more if the track's werent so goofy looking

[split thorn]

i need a team for my tournament mp me if u want to play

[swift quail]

Who agree to buff Su-152?

[trail laurel]

Buff the chance get burned into 50%

[halcyon lotus]

a small mobility buff will be good

[teal minnow]

would it be good if I used the Minotauro just by using the 1st shell,
i could get better dpm than dumping the whole clip at once or using the 2nd shell, instead of 1800 something, i'd get 2450 instead but that'll take 63 seconds.
if I wanted to get the most damage in a minute I could dump the clip after firing 4 shots with the first shell making it into 2940 damage within 60 seconds

for me it's pretty good

I think stb-1's better

[wicked thunder]

It’s very good

[turbid yacht]

Strv 108 best td in wotb no debate

[plucky summit]

“in wotb” Yeah ok

[sharp python]

Is there a problem with wot blitz servers???

[lapis anvil]

AT-1**

[pallid citrus]

is the strv k good

[solid gate]

How to play this two tanks

[lyric copper]

hulldown for both of them

T28 D supports heavies, Defender Mk.1 goes MT side

[sage lodge]

medjay was toxic enough when it got first released do we actually need another medjay wave with the subscription?

[south gazelle]

Decent armour

[lyric copper]

you are playing against bots

[south gazelle]

Ye

[pallid citrus]

is the strv k good

[halcyon lotus]

nah, just get the e6 or chieftain mk6 instead

[solid gate]

Good is a very fluid term at T10. The IS-4 was considered “good” for top level performance for a long time until newer tanks, and the armor/hp nerf made it irrelevant.

[digital fog]

Guys

[wicked thunder]

IS-4 isn’t irrelevant lmao

[digital fog]

Do adding camo or attachments to tank. Do ur exp and cash increase???

[wicked thunder]

No, camo only increases your camo rating, attachments do nothing

[digital fog]

Ok ty

Btw I need like 20k or 15k exp to unlock RHM b. wt

German tank destroyers armour should be A bit increased. IM being nerfed before even I go to enemy area

[harsh elm]

the paper td line? nah their called paper tds for a reason
and increasing the armour wont do much to them anyway

[stray sierra]

In tier 2 and 3 there are a few tanks that was tech tree tanks but got removed and added as collector tanks, Have it ever been possible to buy those tanks after the release of version 5.5 (think it was that release that removed them) Excample of tanks that got removed: Tier 2: T2 - medium, T18, PanzerJager I, AT-1 Cruiser I, UC 2 pdr, FT AC, and Tier 3: M2 Medium, T82, T-46, SU-76, Pz II G, Marder II , Medium III. Or did they got removed because of OP.

[strange root]

vertical stab or refined gun on e100?

[plucky summit]

No, not any of your examples, at least

[tidal hawk]

it was designed to help climb obstacles

[meager spindle]

The front part is fine, but the rear being flat on the ground just annoys me

[blissful cave]

Anybody want to pick tank of the day today?

[lyric copper]

since i already did one, im not gonna do one until like next week

[lapis anvil]

Should I restore 30B or save up gold for Christmas?

[blissful cave]

If anything you could restore 30b now and if you need gold you can sell it again and get it back later

[scenic delta]

Hey, i kind-of got the T77, but i have no clue how to play it to the best extent…

[lapis anvil]

I sold it a very long time back so it doesn’t appear in the reatoration menu. I have to make a ticket for that ig… if i sell it again will it appear in the restoration menu?

[lyric copper]

peek up, slam 2 shells into some poor sap, reverse back down, wait 20s, repeat

[blissful cave]

Don’t know

I never sold any tanks until after restoration was added

[scenic delta]

Ok thanks. Also i need a play style for this.

[blissful cave]

How do you have glacier already💀

[scenic delta]

A lot of cash….

[lyric copper]

its become kinda sad ever since the removal of reactive from it

and do you have an actual tier 10

[scenic delta]

Nope. My closest would be the t29….

[lyric copper]

dont play it then 💀

not one tier 8 TT

[scenic delta]

These are all my tanks… would like to know which are the easiest to learn…

[lyric copper]

learn the actual game before premiums

[scenic delta]

I am not completely new… i did grind for the us t29. And have it mostly upgraded… so i know how to play somwhat.

Can i dm you?

[lyric copper]

high tier gameplay is different and the tactics you use down low wont exactly work in higher tiers

[scenic delta]

Yeah, i have got that.. i know a few high tier tactics… (i don’t mean to be mean)

[lyric copper]

• you have like no credits

[scenic delta]

Yeah…

[runic goblet]

The best way to put it is that higher tier, the higher you go, the more unforgiving mistakes are and it’s a lot better to make those mistakes when it’s only a quarter of your health than your entire health bar, to learn from those

[scenic delta]

Ok… so stick with my t29? Or go lower?

[runic goblet]

Id say maybe play a couple in the skirmish game mode, see how you like it and the feel and if you really can’t get it, play the Chinese medium tree so it’ll help you go up all the way and learn as you go

[scenic delta]

Ok. Can i perhaps dm you?

If not I understand…

[lyric copper]

@scenic delta and seeing as youre new new...

please take some time to ACTUALLY learn the game, there are tutorials out there for the basics

firstly, youre playing more against bots and fellow inexperienced players, dumb tactics will work here, but dont use them.
secondly, there is a threshold, after which you see more experienced layers, who will quickly show you that you are not good to compete

some basics you need to master:

-Focus fire
-Map reading
-Team reading
-Knowledge of your tank
-Knowledge of the enemy tank(s)
-Positioning
-Camo mechanics

[runic goblet]

@scenic delta he definitely went into a lot better detail about the strategies to learn and how to play

[scenic delta]

Ok… thanks for the help. If either of you want to assist me more.. then please dm me… I really hate the slowmode.

[lyric copper]

DM us instead

[lyric oriole]

@stark sentinel

[stark sentinel]

Yea i can see it now

[balmy compass]

M18 GMC (Hellcat)

[blissful cave]

Hellcat has been done and I let my friend choose today and chose

C1 Ariete as todays tank of the day

[blissful cave]

Got this mini Chrysler in the mail this was like the only model of Chrysler I could find
Not even images of ones not for sale so I think it’s really neat

[dapper violet]

it looks cute at that size

[blissful cave]

I’m also gonna get started on my wooden Tornvagn today it’s gonna be kinda bigger than a 1/35 scale tank this won’t be to any specific scale but bigger than 1/35 tanks

[dapper violet]

make it one to one

[blissful cave]

Imagine

I did see a video of someone building a pretty big Strv 103 out of wood

[meager spindle]

Strv 1.0.3 beta

[blissful cave]

It’s like an even better version of a wood mock-up tank (this one is Lansen)

[stray sierra]

Thanks. Feel that WR is missing a income here. There should not be a reason for not selling tier 2 and 3 collector tanks (not counting the Ke-Ni Otsu among those) Collector pålayers would pay for them if they dont have them allready.

[thorny smelt]

Imagine it is functional even the hydropneumatic suspension

[blissful cave]

I think he made it driveable

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-tanks-wot-battle-tank-tanks-gif-22482348

[thorny smelt]

It's smaller than the actually Stridsvagn 103 but maaaaan it looks better

[blissful cave]

Yea it’s not full scale but still huge

[thorny smelt]

Imagine driving it to work

[blissful cave]

I love to imagine just having a tank for normal use (decommissioned cannon of course) just driving like a small light tank to be reasonable like a Chaffee small and light so it’s not too big or heavy

At the tank museum in bovington they have a Chaffee in the parking lot

I want a Chieftain

…wait that’s not small or light so that wouldn’t work

[balmy compass]

Imagine pulling up to a McDonalds in a tank

[tulip steppe]

If you’re stuck with a stock regressor, will it be stock forever? Or how would you upgrade it besides gold in the future?

[marsh hearth]

i think that there will be orders/events for season 1 currency so you can upgrade your tanks, but thats only something i've heard of

[valid wadi]

What is the best collector tank ?

[wary summit]

It's a bit sad despite coming out in the 90's, its going to start getting replaced in 2 more years

[tulip steppe]

Ok thanks I’ll hold onto for awhile then

[shrewd fog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuFKNFrQmQs&pp=ygUdd2hpc3RsaW5kaWVzZWwgY2hpZWZ0YWluIHRhbms%3D whistlindiesel owns one legally , just dont know which variant it is

[robust orchid]

Is the WZ-122TM any good? I already have the Chimera, its (far better imo) English counterpart

I got it from CEA crates along with the IS-2 (1945), which is...egh, just a worse IS-2 than the Tech Tree IS or Chinese IS-2

[safe cedar]

Cheiftan stillbrew

[safe cedar]

Chaffees are generally worn out and hard to maintain I would suggest an AMX 10 rc or ERC sagie if you can.

My uncle actually owns a tank (or two) funnily enough

[robust orchid]

I would have suggested an M41 Walker-Bulldog, but I remembered the Philippine Army couldn't maintain their units well enough and retired them altogether soon after as museum pieces

[robust orchid]

Should I keep it or sell it?

[digital fog]

Xd

[valid gale]

Not sure how this videos offensive it’s just Erika playing over it but running repair kits is sure the offensive part

[harsh elm]

he is also 50% crew

[pure jewel]

I have VK 90 and Badger, Should I sell and get AMX M4 MLe? or keep?

[wicked thunder]

Keep

[amber geode]

Keep ofc

[slim wasp]

Which is better IS7 line or IS4?

[amber geode]

IS7 for sure

[tame ridge]

Hmmm which gun good for cen?

[halcyon lotus]

i’d say the gun that leads to the centurion 7/1 (aka the OQF 20-pdr Gun Type AF). sure the other gun has all of those cool hesh and all but it’s only 250 which isn’t that much. also because the OQF 20-pdr has better reload time and has APCR shells

it’s also more forgiving since you can use the premium shells to have better pen, rather than the other gun which lowers your pen in exchange for alpha

[foggy cloud]

T95e6 maybe or vk 90 or amx m 4 54

[halcyon lotus]

Tier 10: T95E6

Tier 9: Object 752

Tier 8: Fixer (there’s only two collector tanks in Tier 8 so that’s why I chose the Fixer even though it isn’t one of the other OP tanks in T8)

Tier 7: Magnate (you could say the Smasher, but imo it isn’t OP, just annoying to deal with)

Tier 6: Kryos

[foggy cloud]

Actually fixer is really good for gravity ramming since its somehow 66 tonnes aka heaviest medium

[hidden grove]

is buying that tank worth it? or should i save money for the Löwe?

[lyric copper]

save

[hidden grove]

the Löwe really is that good? also is there any way of knowing when it will come to the shop and for how much? thank you for your answer

[lyric copper]

the Lowe is alright, much better than the E75 TS

it comes every once in a while

black friday is coming up, save your gold until then, and if the Lowe is on offer, buy it

[hidden grove]

got it, thank you

[molten plinth]

Lowe is overrated

[hidden grove]

isnt it the best credit earner tho? if there is a better premium to get, tell me

[lyric copper]

lol no

[halcyon lotus]

save. e75ts is good but lowe is a more comfortable tank to play due to it having more reliable armor.

not to mention how lowe sells for a cheaper price

[molten plinth]

If you can play without any emotion on a boring and not very effective tank, buy lowe

[hidden grove]

im not asking for you to prove me the Löwe isnt a good tank, i just want the best credit gathered premium

[halcyon lotus]

aren’t you the same guy who said the 30b isn’t good in 10.3, misinterpreted its stats and claimed to have played 50 battles before 10.3 and 15 battles after 10.3?

[molten plinth]

The best credit gathered premium is t54e2 or maybe progetto 46 (if you like mediums)

[hidden grove]

what tier? are they good tanks? and how much do they sell for?

[molten plinth]

They are tier 8 and 8.500 for a single tank

[hidden grove]

and theyre both mediums?

[molten plinth]

Only progetto 46. But t54e2 has a good mobility for a heavy and good turret armor. (But hull is just 💀)

[hidden grove]

alr, thank you for the info, ill see which one to buy when i get the coins and they arrive in the shop

[molten plinth]

But one moment.
Progetto don't have armor at all.
And t54e2 can be good only for 53-55% (or more) players.

[hidden grove]

then what is better than the Löwe? i am used to the german heavy playstyle, the lowe could work pretty well, is there anything better than the lowe that plays the same way in your opinion? with still decent credit harvest ofc