vehicles-discussion

[drifting moon]

That’s fair, and I didn’t mean to hurt ur feelings I just found it interesting, you should grind e5, it’ll bully tier X next update ;(again, buff lol) and tier X is way more fun than lower tiers

[misty wing]

Tier 10 is the pinnacle of gameplay as well as vehicle design, makes no sense not to care about it and still play the game frankly

[blissful cave]

Today is august 1st the day the Warsaw uprising started so todays tank of the day is the legend itself,Pudel

[azure sentinel]

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[celest schooner]

Question, on maps where heavy side doesn’t have any hull down positions, how do you play hull down tanks? Don’t go Heavy side, I assume?

Also. Using the Sheridan missile is stressful as I’m not used to tier X lol, I’m not doing horribly tho lol

[ocean goblet]

We haven't seen the other nations change yet, and I have the impression that for the moment most of the heavy receive a dpm buff.

[celest schooner]

If anyone can help me, don’t be afraid to give me a ping lol

[plucky summit]

Any examples? Other than Middleburg, where you go hill anyways.

[rich blade]

Med site

[celest schooner]

I don’t know map names but it’s usually maps where heavy side is in a town

[rich blade]

then go med site, depending on map ofc

[celest schooner]

Okay

I’m about halfway to the T29 which is why I was asking

[rich blade]

The E5 has a decent gun and has not maus mobility, its flexible and pretty good even when not "on heavy side" on many maps u can go medium side

[celest schooner]

So what I’ve decided on doing is grinding a tier X of every type and repeating the cycle. Right now I’m going for the E5, next line I want is a TD, either American or Russian

[rich blade]

Just avoid obj263 for the moment

[celest schooner]

Is that the open top one?

[rich blade]

Yea, the other 3, obj 268, E3 and E4 are perfectly fine to go for

[urban bison]

obj 268 is suprisely good

I really didn't like the ISU 152 and obj 704 because all my shots were going in the sky but I get good shots in obj 268

[rich blade]

Its very flexible making it a good choice for pubs

E4 is also pretty flexible, E3 is a far more one trick pony but very good hulldown frontline Td

[celest schooner]

What I might do is go to tier 8 and then get a different line, so I’d get the T32 and then a TD

I hate the M6

[pearl meadow]

Maybe rebalance bit Type 71?

[celest schooner]

So I’m gonna grind to the 53tp and SMV CC 64

[urban bison]

Can someone tell me if the Vz 55 is good?, I grinded it but I didn't even tried it yet

[solid gate]

what is the best tank line i should research?

[fair shale]

E5 will get buff soon but I go for STB-1 or E50M

[halcyon lotus]

e4, vickers, sheridan, 60tp

[fair shale]

E4 and sheri will get nerf in upcoming update

[solid gate]

t110e4?

[rigid quiver]

what does "Mount top modules mean" when I try to enter ratings with a specific tank?

[urban bison]

you need to research all the modules + getting your crew to 100% to play ratings, so play premium or collectables tanks

[rigid quiver]

If I dont get all the modules by the time the event is over, will I never be able to use the magnate in ratings?

[urban bison]

I don't know about the magnate actually, it's a special tank

[rigid quiver]

Alr

[chilly frost]

Anyone else find the obj 84 basically a t54ltwt but a tier higher?

[modern crescent]

any tips for T25 AT?

[sharp axle]

What u talking about E3 gun accurate asf

[misty python]

Question.

?

[lyric oriole]

Great question

[misty wing]

It's like as mid as you can possibly get
Fairly enjoyable though

[urban bison]

okay nice might test him

[spiral garnet]

Does the yolowagon have any weakspot ?

[ocean goblet]

the hull

[quasi wedge]

lower plate

[misty wing]

everywhere besides the upper hull and upper superstructure

most notably the engine deck and area where the casemate connects to the hull.

[pale crane]

Is T110E5 worth researching?

[spiral garnet]

So you need a tank high on track ?

[misty wing]

no, almost every tank can hit the engine deck at close range, and if you can't, you can probably get the lower plate instead

[onyx raven]

I got into WG's secret stash of fake tank juice.

[daring rapids]

Can we add swedish voice overs

[ripe birch]

cali or rammer on 53TP

[rich blade]

? where did i say its inaccurate ?

[sharp axle]

I didnt look good xd

[quasi wedge]

How should I play Tiger P ? Hulldown, sidescrape or other ?

[junior marten]

Bro,i'm having 8500 gold now
And what do you think i should spend?sheridan missile or kpz 70?

I heard that kpz 70 full pack is about 10k gold and i kinda like it

[limpid ether]

hulldown and frontline is for Tiger P

[quasi wedge]

ok thx

[celest schooner]

wotb Reddit says tier 8 is dominated by premiums and that there’s not a single good tier 8 tech tree vehicle. I call BS lmao, god why do I ever ask for anything on Reddit

[weak ruin]

tiger 2

[celest schooner]

I don’t even like the tiger 2 but I know it’s a really good tank lmao

I was recommended the Pantera line, so I’m going to look into it

[weak ruin]

that line is pretty good

[celest schooner]

It was recommended to me because they’re apparently great hull down, but idk

[quasi wedge]

They forgot about Emil I

[limpid ether]

Tiger 2
Caernarvon(for DPM)
AT-15(again for DPM)
ISU-152
Jpanther 2(my opinion)
anything else i forgot?

[quasi wedge]

In my opinion STA-1 and Centurion I

[limpid ether]

theres also 53TP too

[quasi wedge]

yeah

[limpid ether]

Panther 2 and T54 ltwt, and T49 for when you want a derp LT

[misty wing]

Wotb reddit is somehow filled with even worse takes than this discord

[celest schooner]

Absolutely, is the Pantera line even good? If not, what about the M48 line?

Mercy, tell me, what’s your opinion on the most comp heavy tank line for tier 8 and under

[solid gate]

Is action X worth 7500 gold?

[wise moth]

If you want a good tech tree tier 8, M26 Pershing, T32, and Caernarvon are all cracked

[celest schooner]

This poor 53tp, blocked every shot from him in burning games even after he came back lol

[onyx raven]

Are you stupid? The Cent 1 isn’t anything amazing and the STA is completely outclassed by other tanks.

[onyx raven]

Tell me where you were asking about this. I’m near certain that you didn’t pay good attention to the answers.

[celest schooner]

Yeah, sure, my fault. I deleted the post from getting literally nothing but the progetto answer. The rest is “STB 1” lol

[rich blade]

eyo Cent I got kinda neat with the HESH gun, more alpha on a high dpm tank is rly nice, I think the tanks sits around 3200 DPM with hesh while having good gunhandling and gun depression and decent mobility, its not the easiest tank to play but can shine quite bright actually

[onyx raven]

He said that Tier 8 mediums are outclassed, a sentiment I agree with wholeheartedly. The only really great Tier 8 TT mediums are the Pershing and T-34-2, and those are both outclassed by premiums despite their great qualities.

[celest schooner]

tier 8 mediums are not outclassed. Just get better lmao

[onyx raven]

Tell me one Tier 8 TT med that does something better than any Tier 8 premium medium tank.

[rich blade]

The 2 "playstyles" for mediums that get outclassed by premium by far are hulldown and clippers since the only TT clipper is the T69 and Pantera which speaks for themself and "hulldown" ... well every TT medium is paper (or does not have realiable armor) besides the T34 2 which dosnt have gun depression at all

TT mediums have however rly neat alround options, Pershing, Indien panzer and Cent I are legit kings of the DPM in tier 8 medium/light tank level
sure they have many flaws but ones you work around them they are quite good and playable
I would play a premium medium for example Defender Mk1, Progetto, Chimera, Rev or 274a over those any time (If I would find myself tryharding and would only look at the best choice

[celest schooner]

I don’t really know any off the top of my head because I also don’t know any tier 8 premiums off the top of my head

[onyx raven]

Then why complain about things you don’t understand?

[lyric copper]

Pershing has best in tier DPM for MTs

[celest schooner]

You sound like you’re an absolutely miserable human tbh

[rich blade]

He sounds like he would judge you for something you said on a public discord which is completly understandable and relatable and I support his opinion, not knowning anything is not a problem at all, but when you start making takes about stuff you dont know, people will judge you for that

[celest schooner]

Anyways, the tier 5 Italian TD is a menace lol

[lyric copper]

nah the tier 6 is more terrifying

[celest schooner]

Ok, sorry

And the tier 5 is so smol lol, I still always get spotted with camo net tho

[lyric copper]

you 15m rule?

[celest schooner]

What?

[lyric copper]

15m away from a bush, wait for camo net to activate, then fire?

[celest schooner]

I’m right behind a bush. Never heard of being a bit back from it

[lyric copper]

bushes work both ways for both you and your opponent

when you are in the bush, the bush acts as if it is not there for you, but it is still there for the enemy - this gives you a camo bonus (more bushes=better btw).

shooting activates a 15m radius, in which, all bushes/trees become transparent for a short time (to the server, not the players), which allows for someone firing in a bush to be spotted

therefore, you should roll back 15m away from a bush, either by waiting until the bush is no longer see-through, or by using your rangefinder

then, wait for camo net to activate for maximum stealth

[celest schooner]

Interesting

[rich blade]

this especially applies for light tank where u can: Drive near the bush so you can see-through (means it works for you but not for the enemies, means you can spot them) and after that back off 15 m so the bush is not see-through anymore and shoot (the bush now exists for both you and the enemy, means he will get unspotted after 10s but thats plenty of time to shoot him and not get spotted yourself)

[lyric copper]

unless you are a Obj.84/T-100LT and you can just shoot them after reversing 15m since tracer shell are very funny and not at all a very unfun mechanic to play against

[celest schooner]

What’s with the discount on all the vehicles? I guess it’s for the anniversary? It’s super useful lol

[onyx raven]

It’s literally in #game-news

[dull escarp]

Hello everybody, do somebody know when was the last sale for the KV-5 ?

[ocean goblet]

Why the indian panzer doesn't perform well on t8 ? It has amazing dpm with good alpha and good penetration, and average, but not horrible, mobility and armor.

[rich blade]

Tier 8 medium TT tanks are hunted with bad performance, the tank is fairly decent

[ocean goblet]

But it have the worst average winrate in t8 (for all type)

[rich blade]

Rly ? Was Pershing and Cent I for a long time

[warm snow]

do i run enhanced armor on t54e1

[solid gate]

Is there a set time the tank selling limit resets or it is 24 hours from when you sold your 4th tank

[solid gate]

Is action X worth buying??

Or do i save up more gold for somethin better?

[lyric copper]

no

[wise moth]

In general, you shouldn't run enhanced armor on anything other than maybe like the E-100 and S Conq

[balmy compass]

Why SConq

And I thought it was worth it on the 60TP for the autobounce belly plate

[nocturne smelt]

Imma run enhanced on the is 7

[wise moth]

I know it doesn't look like a huge difference on armor inspector, but I swear it does. Early on in its release, I was playing some 1v1's with a friend, and enhanced armor was the difference between cheesing through the cheeks, and struggling to pen. It also helps with the upper plate against kinetic rounds

[balmy compass]

That is rather quite interesting

[celest schooner]

What’s a good medium line to go down

[wise moth]

it's tough to say right now with WG shaking everything up again, we'll need to see how they change the other tier 10s

[celest schooner]

How’s the maus line? It looks super fun tbh

[balmy compass]

The tier VII, VIII are both great
Tier IX and X are bad and mid respectively

[celest schooner]

Yeah I just want to grind tier 8’s

[celest schooner]

I’m honestly wanting to pick a nation to grind 3 tier 8’s in, I’m wondering if Germany has good ones

I’m wanting the VK 100.01, Panther 2, and RHM I guess

Idk how the panther 2 is in this game

[onyx raven]

I liked it, but it’s heavily outclassed by other tanks.

[celest schooner]

I’ll prolly just grind the VK and RHM then

[quiet juniper]

I'm currently at the Tiger (P), which heavy line should I grind up? Idk which line will be easier to play (considering all the tanks in their respective lines)

[celest schooner]

Mm, I hear the Maus is a bit better than the other tier 10 as the other tier 10 VK falls apart with prammo spam

[quiet juniper]

Ah gotcha, how about tanks leading up to the maus, any painful grinds?

[celest schooner]

idk

[remote kindle]

Tiger p is a heavy i enjoyed, vk 100p is good and fun imo maushen was the tricky annoying part still not bad. And well maus eh, well i hope it’s tood with the balance it’s getting

[quiet juniper]

Alright, sounds like I’ll be grinding up the Maus line then

[remote kindle]

Uhh, is it your first one?

[quiet juniper]

I did the is-7 first

[kind flicker]

dont get maus as a second t10, wait a good while before getting it

[remote kindle]

By the balance change i think maus gonna be good tho

[kind flicker]

your still gonna have to learn angling and all

[quiet juniper]

Hmm, what line would you recommend outside of the Russian lines? (I wanna try another country)

[remote kindle]

That’s a good tank to learn it.

[kind flicker]

obj268, wz113gft, patton and type 71
i personaly loved the t6-8 on wz

[remote kindle]

Avoid 71. But the rest yes.

[kind flicker]

alr replace type with is4

[remote kindle]

Hmm. Oki.

[kind flicker]

and ill continue my foch grind

[quiet juniper]

Thoughts on the 60TP line? People on reddit were saying it was an easier line

[quiet juniper]

Sounds good I’ll look into those

[kind flicker]

i haven't done 60tp yet, gonna do vz first

[quiet juniper]

Gotcha

[remote kindle]

50b grind for myself 😎

[lyric oriole]

The line is comparably easy to the E 100 line just maybe a smidge harder

[tall dome]

is IS5 good? and i already have 1k5 gold

[sleek sparrow]

mid tank, it's worth it if that's your first premium tier 8

Ok guys i wanna say that T95E2 getting better after small buff armor

[quiet juniper]

Thoughts on which line is overall easier to grind between maus and vk 72? Currently at Tiger P

[lyric oriole]

Probably the Maus Line

[safe crater]

Maus, gets a nice buff in 10.3 do it now

[quiet juniper]

Alright ty

[molten cipher]

Put carro on the shop please wg

[odd cove]

nein

[halcyon lotus]

it’s good for that price, but the tank kind of struggles nowadays now that there are better tanks

[dim pollen]

Maus and mauschen are literally damage sponges. Tad difficult to score damages in games.

U can get a lot of bounces though

[dim pollen]

U will enjoy the line. Tier X 60TP is good with gun depression and alpha. Keep on grinding mate.

[halcyon lotus]

damage sponges? say hello to premium shells. also e100 better

[dim pollen]

That's what I meant. Damage sponges bcoz it has high hp.

E100 is lot better

[halcyon lotus]

sponges absorb stuff, so i assumed you meant it as “it has good armor” rather than “it has good hp”

not trying to start an argument btw

[dim pollen]

Naah. I meant u won't go down easily cuz it will eat shells. And these tanks in the team are used as sponges so tht other tanks can flank n maneuver while Maus can go straight ahead and distract heavy hitters

[quiet juniper]

Thanks!

[kind flicker]

i find e100s easier to kill and deal with

however- i dont see the maus as much

[quiet juniper]

How about Patton vs the t57 lines?

[kind flicker]

i hate patton, don't have 57

[halcyon lotus]

both are great tanks

[kind flicker]

the grinds are painful

[quiet juniper]

Ah rip okay

[blissful cave]

Does anyone know what battle pass tank is sold this time when you buy the pass

[kind flicker]

idk about t57

i enjoyed sherman and easy8
t20 is alright, i hated pershings lack of turret armour and m46 is straight hell

its a Skoda pjs reskin this time

[blissful cave]

The previous one that’s sold*
When you buy the pass there’s now an offer for like 5$ of a previous battle pass tank
If it’s dreadnought that’ll be cool

[kind flicker]

i think its enforcer, jackson reskin

[blissful cave]

Ah ok thanks

Oh also forgot to mention yesterdays tank of the day
Since I just got back to Finland I made it the Vickers tank in Finnish use

What they did was they bought vickers tanks from Britain like everyone else did but the part that’s more unique is that they ordered them without any equipment like radios optics or even the cannon they added that stuff themselves so the cannon was one from bofors produced under license there

And then were modified and upgunned again after the winter war after fighting against Soviet T-26’s they also did this since they captured a lot of these too and wanted the vickers on the same level

[dim pollen]

Why does panther II gets so much hate? I'm on my way to unlock it.
Love Panther 1 and it's amazing DPM though.

[misty wing]

Panther II is pretty good for a tier 8 med, people just perpetually live in 2017 and their opinions are frozen in that time.

[blissful cave]

Todays tank I want to make a Swedish one I’m thinking either the Lansen or Tornvagn they’re my favorite tanks that were never built sweden had so many cool tank designs but didn’t built a lot of em like the Emil/Kranvagn project too

[kind flicker]

kranvagn means crane

[blissful cave]

Yea crane vehicle as a cover up name

Like how Neubaufahrzeug is “new construction vehicle” I love that tank and want it in the game but don’t think they’ll ever add it : (

[kind flicker]

im impressed that you can spell that

[dim pollen]

Thanks for reassuring me mate! No more doubts on the German machine ✨

[blissful cave]

Neubau is like my 5th favorite tank

[kind flicker]

true

[zenith spruce]

the most average tank in the line

[blissful cave]

If the Tornvagn was built it’d probably be alongside Pershing and BT-42 as my all time top favorite tanks I love the design of that thing so much for some reason

[kind flicker]

it looks so goofy

[blissful cave]

Also now that I’m back in Finland I’m saving BT-42 as a special tank of the day (more like tomorrow since that’s when I’m going to parola tank museum again where they have all the Finnish tanks)

[kind flicker]

you better send me pictures

[blissful cave]

Oh you know I will
And you know I’ll send one that’s like “wargaming PLEASE add this tank to the game”

[dim pollen]

Any more insight on this statement?

[blissful cave]

One more thing that’s really cool there’s this pre production tiger II that’s being passed around to multiple tank museums and right now it’s Finland’s turn while I happen to be here so they’ll have that too I think it was previously in sweden

You probably know it as “the stock turret one”

[kind flicker]

oh yeah that thing

ima totaly not gonna steal those pictures as my own to say i had a interesting summer

[blissful cave]

Then I’ll be like

[kind flicker]

naw man, dont ruin the shot lol

[blissful cave]

Nah I won’t that was just a joke

[zenith spruce]

its completely off of feel, comparing it to the rest of the e50m line
the panther 2 is like a fresh mcdonald's cheeseburger
it's alright

the vk D was better imo
the panther 1 was a lot better
e50 is better as well

[dim pollen]

I see. Hoping for good games in Panther 2 then

[misty wing]

E50 is absolutely not better than Panther II.

[cursive rivet]

VZ 55 or IS-4

[kind flicker]

us4

[sleek sparrow]

IS 4

stay away from VZ 55 since its the easiest ace badge and i need it more

[thorny smelt]

IS-4 ❤️

[tall dome]

i love is7
good rng always with me when i play it

[halcyon lotus]

you love is7, i love kran

[tall dome]

oh i playing kran tech tree too and it good :000

[dim pollen]

AMX ELC Bis is so bad....sigh.

[thorny smelt]

What do you expect from the French pancake?

[junior marten]

Bro is any way to make the kpz 70 deal appear?i'm having enough gold and i cant wait to get that tank

[dim pollen]

Nothing to expect..... it's a tank to be tossed around and laughed

Well amx 12 t is really good but facing bad rng. Getting matched with dumb teammates

[limpid ether]

Germany (definitely not from a Germany main)

[solid gate]

So, grille and Jageroo have same penetration. Grille have 200 more dpm, mobility and camo.
Jageroo have Armor.
Why is everyone crying nerf ?

[solid gate]

First of all. Grille has some of the worst player stats, it has 0 camo what so ever. Once ur spotted you'll get shredded since ur almost a 3 shot. Ur gun up and down is absolutely potato with its random range it has. It's gun is mid. It's losing more and more dmg each NERF it gets. Use to do over 720+ dmg. Nos u can barely do 590 avrage. Oh and u also weigh the same as a sp I c so one touch from a jge100 or a ram from 60tp and u lose 400 hp. Recon the tank Itself is the worst tier 10 TD, after this next NERF it will become the worst t10 tank, u don't see anyone spamming it, u don't see the pros using it, it's not a torny tank or a meta, it's a garbo TD that keeps getting unneeded nerfs

[halcyon lotus]

because it didn’t deserve a nerf. it was balanced as it is

[solid gate]

Agree

[somber wedge]

Guys. Who is with me that wz 113 needs normal shells? Bc at a little distance your penentration just drops with those 'ArmOr PierCinG ComPoSt RigId' shells. And i dont mean the normal one with extra penetration. The other ones that are blue. And yes i play on an phone or tablet

And my argument is that WG also didnt have a problem to make the tvp and tanks like the minotauro so broken

[solid gate]

Agree. And heavily agree

[somber wedge]

So why cant the wz 113 atleast get normal standard shells. Bc then make it slower or reduce its dpm. But atleast give it shells that dont lose there penetration

@solid gate also with u. I dont have it but it is just straight up trash

It doesnt even shoot straight. It just missed my wz 121

And he aimed really long bc i was in uprising i could see that

And his shell literally went next to me when i was standing right infront of him amd his gun was pointed at me

[solid gate]

It's the worst TD at tier 10 rn, soon to be worst tier 10 after this nerf

[somber wedge]

Yes

And i would want in the next update that wz 113 gets normal shells bc the ones it has rn are also trash

[solid gate]

And the gun hit box is so stupid, if ur hugging ur enemy on the side and shoot them point blank the shell goes straight through

[somber wedge]

For my part reduce its dpm or make it slower idc but atleast give it normal shells that sont lose there pen. Like i think wz 113 is the only tier X with those stupid shells

[solid gate]

Facts, and maybe more upper plate armor so u can bounce more often

[somber wedge]

And like i said. WG also doesnt has a problem to make tanks like the tvp and minotauro SO broken

[ocean goblet]

And more dpm, 3,4k is not enought for an heavy, and improve mobility, 45km/h is too low

[somber wedge]

So atleast give wz 113 normal shells like every other tier X tank. And idc if it gets an nerf for this. I just want normal shells

[ocean goblet]

Yes, if there is one broken tank, why my favorite tank can’t be also op

[somber wedge]

No tier X tank has shells rhat lose penetration in a 30 meter distance

@ocean goblet yes so true. And is wz 113 also one of your favourites??

[ocean goblet]

No, but i think this tank is already close to op.

[somber wedge]

Just give it normal shells Then i find a nerf on wz 113 good. But PLEASE WG give wz 113 normal shells like eveey tier X tank

[lyric copper]

bro are you sniping in a 113

[ocean goblet]

No, if you nerf dpm or mobility or armor, just for a shell penetration, this tank will be less unique. If you have an issue with the shell type, why don’t you play an other tank

[ocean goblet]

Yes, but the accuracy isn’t good, please WG buff accuracy and penetration to 0.277 and 275/375/150

[lyric copper]

it’s meant to be brawling

and more so murdering medium tanks

[ocean goblet]

Yes, it’s just a med, with armor and hp, but without less dpm, just a little bit less mobility.

[somber wedge]

@lyric copper no but i was in desert sands and an T57 heavy was in base cap so i wanted it to stop. But i couldnt pen its turret as good as wz 121 (that is my second tier X)

[lyric copper]

it’s because the turret is troll

shoulda just splashed HE, and then took the time to aim with APCR

[somber wedge]

I know but with wz 121 i could pen the turret of t 57 heavy better. And wz 113 even has 10 more pen

[lyric copper]

even though it can’t

it’s just that the T57’s turret is troll

[somber wedge]

And those weird shells lose penetration ad a distance

Well with wz 121 there were more grey spots on that turret of t57

[lyric copper]

which doesn’t really matter in blitz at all

[somber wedge]

But i play on phone and tablet

[lyric copper]

the 121 has AP as standard which means more normalisation which means more pen on angled surfaces

[somber wedge]

Yes i also woyld wan that wz 113 has those shells

[lyric copper]

the pen difference between the 121 and 113, therefore is basically negated by this

except the APCR on the 113 also has normalisation

[somber wedge]

I myself would like that it had AP shells as standard

[lyric copper]

you just got unlucky with shot placement due to RNG, something you can’t control

next time, shoot HE if you’re unsure about troll armour

[somber wedge]

Itherwise i need to spent credits for better shells in my opinion. Ok ill try that

Wait. What is troll armor axtually

@lyric copper ??

[lyric copper]

armour like the T57’s that sometimes decides to work, sometimes not

[somber wedge]

Oh ok

[solid gate]

Agree on one point, the concealment is trash. The shitbarn has 34 and the grille have 30. Yet ho-ri and yolowagon have 40, plus Armor. Needs balance @solid gate

[nocturne smelt]

Funny how I had this type of conversation with another guy that complained that type 57 has reticle stabi so is 6 deserves one too

Like bro another guy made a valid point by saying just because something is op does not mean another thing should be OP

Why do kids always get biased to whatever they have and beg for it to be buffed to hell. Just stop with the baby attitude

113 is already good. If you can’t play it you just suck. Stop begging for more and work on yourself

[ocean goblet]

I totally agree with you, it annoys me that some people wish that their favorite tank is buff, even if it is already very good. While it would be enough on the contrary to nerf the tank op for balanced.

[nocturne smelt]

I’m talking about you

[quasi wedge]

I agree
People just have to learn how to play with their tanks' weaknesses, whatever they may be, rather than always wanting their tanks to be buffed because they haven't mastered it.

[nocturne smelt]

Exactly

[ocean goblet]

It was pure irony, no one can seriously ask that an already excellent tank can be so buff (read my other messages, I propose totally delirious buffs). For exemple, my favorite tank in t10 is the Type 71, but I was totally for a nerf, a tank doesn't have to be perfect to be good to play.

[nocturne smelt]

Thought you were dumb. Good that you were joking. Also I think u meant sarcasm

[ocean goblet]

Sorry, i don't speak english very well, i thought it was "irony" to say that i pretend to be a dumb to discredit others. And yes, i'm joking because explaining doesn't change anything. There are always people complaining that their tank is not op enough

[nocturne smelt]

It’s aight lol. U convinced me

[zenith spruce]

oh yh i forgot that they buffed the panther 2 😎
not going back to it tho

[misty wing]

This is exactly what I was referring to with that "live in 2017" comment

[fathom gate]

#tank-balance-discussion message IS-7 is one of the stronger Heavys at the moment.

[quasi wedge]

What equipment configuration should I use for the fv4202 ?

[fathom gate]

calibrated shells

[solid gate]

Tips on playing the Vk 72 anyone?

[solid gate]

Front is strong, weak sides. Don't go down hill or uphill, only foatground. Side scrap is good but only if you don't overangle : side are weak

[blissful cave]

I was at this Finnish war museum and they had a Vickers tank there

And tomorrow I’ll be going back to parola where they have a ton of Finnish tanks : )

[solid gate]

Enjoy :))

[solid gate]

How to play is3 with the hull plis ?

[dim pollen]

Side scrape, peek n boom. Front hull strong but lower plate weak. Protect hull through obstacles or building corners. Don't let anyone flank u. U are good to go!

[dim pollen]

Pike nose front is not good enough. Tier 7 will struggle to pen from front but tier 8 will cut through. If u wish to side scrape, touch the butt of ur vehicle at the building corner and angle the hull.

Turret is strong, so are the spaced armour in the tracks. Altogether the tank has bouncy armour.

Use its speed and high alpha. Don't rely much on the armour. Focus on unlocking the top gun. U won't regret 🙂

[limpid ether]

is this really whats going to happen to IS-4?(source from blitz post)

[solid gate]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

[limpid ether]

cant believe they turned my boy into a Heavium

[solid gate]

This is going to be hulldown meta.

[dim pollen]

IS 4 was always hard to pen lol. Troll armor

[limpid ether]

yes because its a HT

[dim pollen]

Wish I continued the grind but the KV 4 sucks

[limpid ether]

yeah kv4 sucks,Stock ST-I sucks even more too.

but full upgrade ST-I is actually enjoyable ngl.

[dim pollen]

Gaaahh.....Imma better grind for batchat. Kinda enjoying the medium tanks and autoloaders

[limpid ether]

yeah batchat is very enjoyable rn.

i hope they dont "rebalance" it.

for the love of god please dont nerf it

[remote kindle]

They will tho

[dim pollen]

Always happens to f2p players like us. The moment we reach tier X, it's already nerfed ☹️

[limpid ether]

by this point, the best tiers would just be tier 6 and 8 lol

[dim pollen]

Yes haha
What are ur thoughts on t54 ltwt? Gonna unlock after few games.
Enjoying LTTB for now

[limpid ether]

T54 ltwt my favorite tier 8 LT

[dim pollen]

How to maximize this tank?

[limpid ether]

its hard to say how, i just play it like a LT really

its kind of a MT that has no armor but lots of speed

[dim pollen]

Understood. Circling and flanking. Shoot n scoot.

[zenith shadow]

What are some good tournament tank since is4 got bad nerf and its no longer tourney tank?

[limpid ether]

it same DPM and pen as T44 which is as average of a tier 8 medium as you can get,so you could probably play it as a MT with no armor but using speed as armor.

[limpid ether]

Collectors like VK90 or Obj 260.

for tech tree, id say Kranvagn,Type 71, or T110E5, whichever you are good with

[zenith shadow]

Alright ima look into those.

[dim pollen]

Cool

[zenith shadow]

Is t62 a still good ?

[limpid ether]

its going to be better in 10.3

[solid gate]

Anyone know how to tell apart stb1 and wz121 ? They look similar so it's hard to figure out how they are played...

[hollow plover]

stb has a lot more gun depression to use
121 has a dome-esque turret while stb's is flatter, in a sense

[odd cove]

121 is longer and turret is center mounted compared to the stb’s front mount, which is why it has a lot of gun dep compared to the 121

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is Tornvagn

None were built tho I couldn’t even find anything on a wood mock-up existing
But I did find these two other prototype tanks that look kinda similar but not really still gonna mention em tho

Mainly just the flat small box turret with the same looking gun

[lime flume]

got it finally, sorry for unnecesarry post but had to tell someone

[kindred wren]

Congratulations

[shrewd siren]

HRF recommends pulling out nose-first around corners instead of sidescraping in the VK72. I’m not sure why but it might have to do with turret armor

[mental belfry]

Is there any chance for carro 45t to come back?

[regal zealot]

It's primarily due to the hull cheeks of the Vk. If you angle too much, the cheeks on the hull become an easy pen. This is the Vk at 20° vs a T-62A's AP shell

[shrewd siren]

ahh, good info. i didn’t think abt that

[regal zealot]

The frontal armor is far more reliable at bouncing shots, but it is susceptible of getting penned by prammo at the lower glacis or the flat strip in the middle.

[late lance]

But in the next update the vk 72.01k is getting a upper and lower cheak buff so it can side srap more

The turret cheak and lower cheak will get stronger in the next update so you will have to use premium in a medium to pen the side cheak

Hopefully that weak spot won't be there in the next update

[odd cove]

the side hull armor gets penned fairly easily is why

i didn’t see the reply above as my messages didn’t load but there you go

[odd cove]

maybe christmas again

[thorny smelt]

The shape of the sides of the hull where the turret sits is vulnerable to most of the tanks when you sidescrape with it.

[shrewd siren]

got it ty

[thorny smelt]

This means that the best you can do is to face to the enemy instead.

[swift oracle]

Ferdinand gud?

How to play Soviet ST1 tier 9 and how to play Amx 50 100...

[robust orchid]

Is it just me or is the Sheridan Missile's side and rear essentially have "more armor" than the front of the hull or the turret? My shots somehow keep bouncing when I shoot them, even with the JPz. E-100, the hit was confirmed and even recorded after the match, but it didn't deal any damage or even penetrate? I'm so confused

[glass otter]

hitbox probably

[meager spindle]

God it looks so cursed

[robust orchid]

Jesus Christ, no wonder why it's such a troll, I kept wondering how I somehow get bounces on such a fragile tank 💀

[plucky summit]

People still don't realize the boxy visage of Sheridan is spaced armor?

[robust orchid]

Nah, I knew it had Spaced Armor, what I didn't know was how much its Spaced Armor covered

[glass otter]

I mean people still complain about the tank being mostly immune to HE 4 years later so I'm not surprised.

[plucky summit]

I still HESH those little rats in 183 >:)

[glass otter]

Low key I don't get the issue about the spaced amor to this day still

[gleaming spade]

Tis good?

[robust orchid]

Not bad ig? I personally prefer the CDC

[misty wing]

Quite terrible, they are slowly buffing tier 8 meds so it might be good within a year though tbh

[blissful cave]

Back to Strv K they’ve shown the “changes” to object 777 another tier 10 collector released recently and they did pretty much nothing to it changing the ammunition type and shell velocity does barely anything so if it’s just that then I’d be fine with that

It’d be completely unfair to nerf it right after making it available in crates and so frickn expensive to get our hands on

[thorny smelt]

It's pretty much average

[blissful cave]

Also they announced British ones will be shown next hopefully chieftain will get those random patches in its turret fixed now that somebody pointed it out to me that it has that

[blissful cave]

Lmao chainmail armor on a tank (I’m assuming this is for anti HE purposes like screen shields)

[thorny smelt]

Centurion Mk. Sh

[wise ice]

hi are czech heavies any good? tier 6-10 what are their highlights

[gleaming spade]

The aim thingy idj

[blissful cave]

Ayyy I’m on the train to parola rn to see some tanks : )

I’m kinda surprised Finland never bought centurions like sweden did

I guess their postwar tanks were T-54/T-55’s so they had those rather than centurions

[limpid ether]

well the Soviet Union might see FInland getting Western tanks as a threat

[blissful cave]

Yea true

Just play along and get those T-55’s not to start any fights smart idea

[modern crescent]

Any tips for T28? I havent researched the top gun cuz no xp and this thing is slow af and its armor is literally pretty useless

[limpid ether]

honestly? just suffer through the pain, T110E3 is worth it though.

atleast your not playing with SU100M1 or SU101

[modern crescent]

Will T95 be better?

[limpid ether]

better armor, 155mm gun, same speed, but the weakness is only the cupolas now

[solid gate]

Wich lines are fun grinding but not OP like the italian TD ?

[limpid ether]

italian TDs are barely OP man

but if you really wanna id say Kranvagn or AMX 50B line

[granite sphinx]

WG please buff the shell pen of this tank even it is only +1mm

[silver torrent]

what do you mean by +1mm

[granite sphinx]

+1mm of penetration this tank has some down issue when it come to pen

[silver torrent]

how is this tank's pen bad in any way

[granite sphinx]

Like it can't 1v1 COC in other heavy's

Or i have skill issue 🤔

[silver torrent]

buff skill when

[limpid ether]

Bro you need to get VK90 if 255mm standard pen is bad for you

[modern crescent]

Ok. Is it better for T28 to go town or hills?

It has only 5 degs of gun depression

[limpid ether]

town

unless your team gives you now choice and really wants to go hills

[modern crescent]

But the lower plate?

Everytime i go to town my lower plate becomes a shell magnet

[limpid ether]

at that point, just suffer through the grind till you get T95 really

just play it like a second line TD like SMV or Ho RI

[blissful cave]

Why’d they give a mjolnir themed camo to a French tank it’d be so much more fitting for a Swedish tank

Tornvagn needs a better legendary camo it got stuck with that ridiculously stupid robot dinosaur one it’d be much better for Tornvagn to have a Nordic themed camo

I just use the dark green credit camo I like the realistic look for it but I do like culture themed camos too like the Kranvagn nord and Emil viking ship one

[halcyon lotus]

you have skill issue

[granite sphinx]

And it is huge problem 🤣

[modern crescent]

I have no xp boosters

[waxen drum]

how many credits are required for is-7 75% mastery?

[thorny smelt]

I love VK 90.01 (P) ❤️

[dim pollen]

Gun stabilization in tier 9 and X. That's the highlight for u

[cinder rivet]

Don’t get them unless you have most other lines, dislike the t10 quite a lot. There are much better options.

[wise ice]

ok ty

[solid gate]

Here is a basic explanation why this is lazely design

[blissful cave]

At parola most of these tanks Finland captured and used were modified with extra armor plates they always up armored what they had

[waxen drum]

whats the meta rn

i have not played for like 2 years

[strong bane]

What's the best tank from the European tech tree

[glad valve]

they all amazing if u have the right amount of skill for new players go for the 60tp (if ur looking for a heavy) if u want to just have fun go for the tvp

[halcyon lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-homelander-meme-sigh-anxiety-attack-gif-26227579

it’s a long story

[glad valve]

currently i have no idea cause war gaming is changing everything about Tier 10s atm

[waxen drum]

oh yea i just remembered now i heard that somewhere. How's the is-7 rn?

[strong bane]

Oh I'm experienced when it comes to WOT blitz. From the stats I see that the VZ.55 is a good tank but is it actually good in Top ranks?

[glad valve]

we'll have to wait before that can be answer's but i'd say something like the obj wagen thingy my brain is fried i cant remember the name

[halcyon lotus]

is7’s great

[glad valve]

if im correct its getting another upper hull buff making it just stupidly good the is4 is getting a hull nerf

[waxen drum]

ight thanks

yea it's pretty good i just bounced an entire amx 50 b clip

[tall dome]

HEY!
anyone hope STRV 103 add in wotb?

[glad valve]

NO ARE U CRAZY?!??!?!?

[tall dome]

add in game but balance 🙂

[glad valve]

it would completely break the game the fact that a tank can hull aim on such small maps with the armer being stupidly good with avr mobilities is insane and theres no way u can balance the strv 103 without people getting mad

[tall dome]

well...ok.... i think it can broke the game tho ...

[glad valve]

it would possible but if they add it fat chance it will be a prem/collector thats very rare

[trail laurel]

I want Obj 705A in blitz 🗿

[tall dome]

t want sturmtiger or karl in game 🥶

[trail laurel]

We already have sturmtiger but we can't use it omly see it 🗿

[tall dome]

i want PZ II j (balance) add in german tech tree

[onyx raven]

Just wait for it to appear in the shop again.

[wheat cloud]

It sells is the only reason, other than the tank vaguely looks like a hammer from up top

[thorny smelt]

Easy ammo rack detonation then?

[wheat cloud]

53TP

[strong bane]

Tier 10 tank

[wheat cloud]

dang i thought i was clever. yeah its either the 60tp or tvp for sure. The Kvagn has uses, minotauro is basically invisible, vz55 is strong but really bland

Otherwise its 53TP then EMIL or SMV depending on what you're doing with them

[trail laurel]

Idk why but i feel like the 130mm gun roll low damage very often

[wheat cloud]

negativity bias its a very famous and common thing

[trail laurel]

I trust the 100mm that deal 280 damage one more than the 310 damage one

[cosmic gust]

Hey guys need advice... with incoming patch buff/nerf which tank i would carry between VK72 and T110e4 as Damage dealer ? which one will be better ?

[trail laurel]

E4 imo
It has better mobility and faster reload time but only decrease it alpha by 10
About the VK 72 i need to wait to see how much the rounded hull armour got thicker

[modern crescent]

Just gave up T28, maybe i'll play other lines first to grind free xp to get T95 directly. Any suggestions for american lines?

[trail laurel]

E4 line
E5 but stop at T29 or T32 if u want cause the tier 9 is awful and 10 is decent

E3 and E4 line use same gun so if would easier to grind

[cosmic gust]

Im wondering too how will be the armor buff of VK, if its huge so it will be better than e4... We could easily sidescrap without be penned on turret...

[modern crescent]

Well i have T71 and M6

[trail laurel]

Giving it the improved suspension and removed the camouflage is Great ngl

[trail laurel]

The T57 line is Pain if u don't have skill because the line has weak armour,slow, big and tall

[modern crescent]

I also have T49 on my another acc, like it but awful wr

[trail laurel]

T49 is for fun

[remote kindle]

T49 is not meant to br good.

[modern crescent]

So go E4? How about yoh or patton

[remote kindle]

Yoh is meh rn. Still good but meh.

[trail laurel]

M48 patton line requires skill to play

[modern crescent]

E4 line good for me assuming i have no skill?

Hellcat is kinda a light tank

[trail laurel]

It very easy to play tbh
The tier 6,7 just goes Snipe or goes to MT line

[modern crescent]

Ok

[trail laurel]

Use the DPM to destroy enemy 🗿

[modern crescent]

How about 8 and 9

[trail laurel]

8-9 play at support HT cause you don't have good mobility but you have Strong Firepower and good accuracy

T-30 is T34/T29 with Fat Gun 💀

[modern crescent]

T30 has big cupola?

[trail laurel]

Same cupola at T29 and T34
But you can hide it with your 155mm gun

[modern crescent]

Pointing the gun upwards?

[trail laurel]

Yes

[solid gate]

Like the pharoh, the gun and ammo rack are super exposed. Also , the turret is not even closed.

[modern crescent]

Sell T28 to buy hellcat?

[trail laurel]

Depend on you

[modern crescent]

heard that t28 prot is bad?

[austere slate]

It is bad

[trail laurel]

That the biggest challenge in E4 line
But atleast it better than T28 in some point

[austere slate]

Yeah.but I have over 5 700 battles and still have 4 more nations to go

[strong bane]

From the stats I think the VZ.55 is one of the best in that tech tree

[remote kindle]

🤔

[wheat cloud]

Yes i agree its a very solid tank however its blend. Look at the 60TP then the 55

[strong bane]

Bland in what way?

[wheat cloud]

Looks, gameplay, desirability, grind

Im griding it rn

[strong bane]

Oh I just started grinding it's research path

Hopefully it's not as bland as the American TD tech tree

[remote kindle]

E4 e3 are awesome

[strong bane]

Which ranks have you got unlocked of that path?

[wheat cloud]

Tier 8 still have to buy it

[strong bane]

Oh I just got tier 6.

[wheat cloud]

Tier 6 is good but lacks flavour tier VII imo is actually OP

Gun so reliable you could take tea on its beak, armour that will bounce even the most perfectly precise shots

[modern crescent]

Why is t28 prot bad

[trail laurel]

It is decent but it is bad if you compare tier to tier
It mobility very slow, Side and Back Hull armour which is Where HE shell rlly love hitting it

[onyx raven]

Hey guys I found the best possible tier 8 premium

[limpid ether]

Lowe?

[onyx raven]

Not one that’s in the game yet

[limpid ether]

Kampfpanzer 07RH?

[onyx raven]

IS-2Sh SPG

[remote kindle]

That’ su101

[onyx raven]

It has:

Long 152mm gun
Lots of armour
Decent mobility

[onyx raven]

Have you never seen an SU-101? This looks nothing like it.

[remote kindle]

No i never seen a su101. But it looks pretty much like it

[trail laurel]

Destroy the track and go to back 🗿

[onyx raven]

That’s like saying a Nashorn and a Grille are the same because they both have open tops.

This thing would basically be a 268/4 at Tier 8

[remote kindle]

Bruh.

[onyx raven]

Think about the possibilities!

[remote kindle]

Same design / configuration. Where’s the turret ring?

[onyx raven]

Casemates don’t have turret rings.

[remote kindle]

Exactly it’s not is2sh whatever it’s a su101.

[trail laurel]

For me it look like K91 PT 💀

[onyx raven]

Are you stupid? Are you honestly that dumb?

[remote kindle]

No i am messing with you. 😁

[onyx raven]

Good. I was going to have a mental breakdown if you were being serious.

[balmy compass]

It’s not German or Swedish so I don’t agree

[trail laurel]

Both look almost same tbh

[modern crescent]

ok E4 line seems like good, how about sheri?
i enjoy the sheridan missile and T49 in my alt acc tho my stats in these two tanks are not very good

[remote kindle]

Sheridan is good.

[modern crescent]

What I afraid is when I play the light tank line my stats will drop

[glossy anchor]

what country and line i should grind, kinda getting bored with my germans and usa

[limpid ether]

Soviet obj 263 line definitely

[kindred crown]

Ey, a quick question that i hope doesnt botter anyone, i just grid the AMX 50 B, what kind of balances changes can you say will be good for it?? Y mean, all the autoloaders should have a redone in their stats, but im afraid that the AMX is going to be more bad than good

Btw, in my personal opinion, it needs shell booster consumable

[limpid ether]

no need for shell booster please, autoloaders in tier 10 is cancer already

[rich blade]

In my opinion they should just give it turn speed and maybe a lil engine power, the gun is fine, was better with 3 shells but I guess what can u do right

[strong bane]

Tier 6 is just an off brand IS-1

[kindred crown]

Then maybe give it a better gun, like the one in the t57, or a little more armor, because yes is a heavy but you have to play it like a medium, because if an fv183 gets you on the side, you are doom, and im not saying that they give it a sidescrape hull, but.... i dont now, or maybe a stronger turret, something between the t57 and the m6yoh, because i think that the stronger assent in the amx 50 b is its speed, and its autoloader capability

[kindred crown]

I know, i think that the reloaders are more accurate and easy tu control

Like the kranvgn, the mino, and the progetto (well, progetto is also a little bit toxic)

[limpid ether]

Kranvagn and progretto are fine imo, Mino is just great in armor but the gun is fine for a TD.

its the TVP,T57,and 50b that is anooying for being able to remove 50% of of your HP at the start of a match, even worse when they are on a platoon

[rich blade]

In my opinion each Tech trees should have a slight diffrence, if you give it a gun more like T57, it will legit become a T57, if you like he gun of the T57 just play that one

[kindred crown]

Yea thats what i said, the realoders are more accurate to their real life counterparts, and more easy to control in a match, i know the autoloaders are really overpower, and i have fought 2 platoons, one with two tvps, and one with a tvp and an amx 50b, now thats scary

[kindred crown]

Yeah i think you are right, but like i said, a little more armor, and at least one boost, either shell, or speed boost, or even sigh boost (i dont know if its correct)

[modern crescent]

What will be the best line to increase wr?

[balmy compass]

60TP

[kindred crown]

Agreed

[strong bane]

What's WR?

[rich blade]

Winrate, percentage of how much games u win of games played

[strong bane]

Oh ok

[wheat cloud]

No big gun = no is

[strong bane]

That's the IS-2 your thinking of

[wheat cloud]

yes did you know soviets woul strap buckets to the guns of their t34 to make them look like the muzzles of is to german troops?

[strong bane]

They would strap infantry to the sides of their tanks to absorb anti-tank rifles shots too

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is BT-42
Since I went to Parola today and it’s day 42 of T.O.D it’s very fitting

[frosty ibex]

Is this a good tank. Any tips?

[frail valve]

for what tier should i grind

[kindred crown]

Men, how many crates did you open?? You get the char futur and the legendary camo, now thats a good luck

And yea is a good tank, its not and autoloader, but its gun is amaizing

[strong bane]

How TF did you get it?

[zenith shadow]

the grind for xp on this one 💀

[blissful cave]

Wish that was me with Strv K crates but wargaming said no,30/30 charms for you

Tornvagn I got pretty lucky and got it on the 16th crate (but bought em in bulk sets of 10 so more like 20 but not having to get that third set of 10 was great)
I’m not gonna do crates anymore just those two and I’m done

[kindred crown]

Lol, well at least you have two good tanks, and one with an incredible amout of luck

[blissful cave]

Yea they’re my two favorite tanks I have

[kindred crown]

Its worth the grid believe me, grind it before the next update comes

[blissful cave]

I made fun gambling compilation edits for em

[kindred crown]

I prefer to buy the tanks with gold instead of crates, like the AMX 4 54, i bought it with gold and its more cheaper, and it came with 3 megacontainers that give me the t22 medium and the lycan

[blissful cave]

Strv K I recorded all the boxes Tornvagn just the set I got the tank in

[blissful cave]

Yea I’ll always prefer to do that but with Tornvagn I could not wait when I saw this thing it instantly became one of my favorite tanks
If this tank was actually built it’d be up there with Pershing and BT-42 as my top favorite tank
But at least the concept was real the blueprints exist

[kindred crown]

The next ome i wish to buy is the badger, but im not waisting money in the British containers, i ratter wait until the mistery boxes came back, or even when the tank itself is in the store, and that would be my last tank that i buy with actual money

[blissful cave]

Strv K Christmas event was too much so when I heard it’s being re released in crates I said I guess I’ll go for it now god knows how long until it’ll be sold directly for gold
Not even carro 45 which was released a month before it had any sort of re release

[kindred crown]

The only crates that are worth the risk are the mistery boxes, and the mega containers, the other ones are just a waste of money and time

[blissful cave]

Mega containers are good because they always contain at least something good like some gold and just overall better rewards if you don’t get a tank
Collect em alls be like take your 6 crew xp boosters,a day of premium time and five 200 free xp certificates and screw off

[kindred crown]

Yea those are rare vehicles so its going to be a long time before they re released in the storez like the new obj that came with the birthday blitz fair, that one its going to be helluva strange to see in the store, because, even if its already a collector tank, it belongs to a certain event, just that one event

The pancake obj (i dont remember its designation)

[blissful cave]

So I was surprised to even see strv K re released so quickly even if it is in crates

[kindred crown]

Yea those, the mistery boxes only because of the mistery certificates, and the little posibility of 1M free xp or even 100k gold, but others are just a waste of money

The collect em all should be rename to collect alot of xp free certificate, because thats what are worth for

[blissful cave]

I see Strv 81 another Swedish tank coming soon but I have to control myself I’m not buying crates for what is literally a just centurion but marked as Swedish

I like Swedish tanks

[kindred crown]

Funny story, i got the tornvgn legendary camo in its lucky roulete, but not the tank itself lol

[blissful cave]

I got the camo like twice but I just sold em I HATE it’s camo the robot dinosaur camos has to be the absolute lowest point in wargamings stupid unrealistic camos

[kindred crown]

I just want the badger because its a good td, but other than tat i will not buy it, if i have the luck to by mistery boxes and get them, so be it, but of not, thats that

[blissful cave]

Also that’s another thing I’m pretty annoyed to see Tornvagn sold so quickly when there’s several crate tanks that have not been re released since their debut in crates

[kindred crown]

I wanted the ankylosaurus for the yoh, i only like them for the animations, like with the AMX 50B thunderstorm, thats the one i have

Another one that could have been a little "real" in the life its the camo on the jg e100, the "mighty" one, i mean, the 133 in the side, with the camo of the second world war, could have been and imposing tank

[blissful cave]

Like Caliban I’m just checking the shop like literally any day now it should be here it was released somewhere back in fall last year and has not been sold (draws count as sold they need about as much gold as first time direct sale)

[kindred crown]

I think its a british tank, so it shoulf be in the british containers but yea, to much for a tank that have 0.03% of get it

[blissful cave]

Bisonte hasn’t been sold yet too that was from January I think so why’d they sell Tornvagn so quickly :/

[kindred crown]

Yeah, i dont understand what its with wargaiming and their decisions on which tank its re sold and when

Im still waiting again for the cheiftain now that will have its pbr redone

[blissful cave]

I did somehow get Bisonte and it was lucky af
I two of those mystery crates that give you a random crate and it gave me a Bisonte crate and in that one crate was Bisonte and that was the one I wanted most of the tanks

It was like 2500 for two crates but got 750 gold from one of em so it’s like I got Bisonte for 1750 gold

[solid gate]

What’s the Best line to go down if I want to brawl decent reload good amour fast

[blissful cave]

It’s kinda hard to think of one with all 3
British heavies are perfect for brawling with super fast reload and pretty good armor but the churchills are slow af

[kindred crown]

Yea, and also with if you want it to be medium, or heavy, i will go for the is 7 line, or even the 60tp if you want more alpha

[blissful cave]

Polish line is great for armor and damage but are pretty slow with high damage slow reload

[kindred crown]

Yea i know, the more balanced could be the is 7 line, or even the american e5

[blissful cave]

Strv K can do all those things😎
But it’s not a tech tree tank
They should make a heavium tech tree that plays like Strv K,concept and chieftain I really like those

[kindred crown]

Yeah but that will kill the concept of pay to win of those tanks, thats why they do it as collector tanks

[blissful cave]

I thought its because they just don’t connect to anything Strv K just being a mashup of two existing tanks and concept being a random blueprint
Well chieftain does and it’d be better fitting as the tier 10 for the centurion line than FV4202

[kindred crown]

But those are my opinions

E5 more balanced
Is 7 better gun and more mobility
60tp more alpha and armor, but less mobility and dpm

Or even the type 71, but thats a boring tank, you just shoot and not care much of the tank infront

[blissful cave]

OHHH E50 that one does it all its got heavy tank like armor for a medium I think that’s the answer to the question

[kindred crown]

Mmmm yeah that one to, and has a good mobility and dpm, and you dont have the fear of being HE in the back like other mediums

[chrome wolf]

Hi guys I have a question about the legendary camo for the Carro 45, I got this tank from a container but I want the camo too !! normally after one battle you can buy the camo but not in my case. Should I send wargaming support a email ?

[kindred crown]

I think the camo is also obtainable in a container, because its an special camo, i dont know for sure, but its not an issue of the game, thats something i know for sure

I think the mecanic of after one battle buy the camo its only for tech tree tanks, but again, im not 100% sure

[chrome wolf]

Thanks

[kindred crown]

Your welcome

[earnest otter]

Can someone tell me what will happen with the grille 15?

[kindred crown]

Something a lot of people wont like for sure

[earnest otter]

Oh

[blissful cave]

Oh that’s what everyone is all like “the grille is RUINED” over?

[kindred crown]

Yep

[kindred wren]

Wait until after the update. I bet most people will forget it as quickly as they got upset over it

[kindred crown]

As with all the balance they usually do with the tanks

[kindred wren]

Yeah idk, people just tend to get upset over balancing

[blissful cave]

I just look at the ones for the tanks I use I do look at all but only care about the main ones I use like I’m happy with concept 1B’s buff
Faster reload and all that plus emergency track

[kindred crown]

But i can say, the speed of the shell being reduce its actually pretty bad, you have a tank that only serves like a sniper, with less shell speed, and being a HE and HESH magnet, you want your shots to be as quick as possible so you can move to another location quickly it ruins the meaning of the tank in a matter of speaking

[blissful cave]

Pretty much everyone got shell speed decreased

[kindred wren]

The shell speed is so you have to pre-aim more when sniping

[kindred crown]

Yeah but thats going to be more complicated with the grille getting its speed shell velocity reduce

[kindred wren]

That‘s the whole idea of the nerf

Or at least that‘s how I interpret it. WG wants to get away from the Grille being a sniper and want to make it more a flexible second line damage platform

[kindred crown]

I personally dont play it so i cant say much, but the jg e100 getting tungsten, now thats something im looking forward to, specially dealing more HE damage, because dealing only 100 more for standard (i think) its like "meh"

I feel sorry for the sheridan, its getting a really massive nerf

I hope 60tp its getting sandbag or a hp buff, just a little more hp will be perfect

[onyx raven]

The 60TP is fine as-is. Doesn’t need a buff.

[solid gate]

Just... WHY!?

It needed a penetration OR speed buff

[kind flicker]

its not even a nerf

[kindred crown]

Yea, its like a mega buff

[solid gate]

Yes it is, I hate this change

[kind flicker]

its becoming way more tanky like it should be

[kindred crown]

Specially the premium shell hit, i mean, just 3 km/h less in exchange, its a buff

[solid gate]

It already is slow and I barely can pen an E100 with APCR

[kindred crown]

What do you think wargaiming will do with it in this update then??

[kind flicker]

prob speed nerf and armour buff or vice-versa

[solid gate]

Probably nerf it like grille or IS-4

[kindred crown]

Slow?? Men like wtf?? Its one of the fastest heavies, and its apcr shell will get MORE penetraition not less

[solid gate]

Exactly, they needed to give it at least a bit more armour cuz some tanks pen me easily

[kind flicker]

give kran +50 horsepower +100 hp -11' of gun dep and nerf the hull armour and side turret armour
reduce the shell reload by 0.50 seconds and reduce intra by 0.50 seconds

[kindred crown]

Tis what actually needed, like you said, with apcr you couldnt penetrate even the e100 lower plate

Plus the tungsten, its going to be a lot more funnier to play

[solid gate]

They need to stop giving random tanks tungsten

[kindred crown]

I hope not, or at least nerf it in the speed, because if they nerf it in the armor or gun departament it will became boring to play

[kindred crown]

Like with the Jg e100?? That one i like but i think its a little to much, i though tungsten were something exclusive to the 60tp line

[kind flicker]

id rather give a tank tungsten then give random tanks combat stabilization or emergency track

[kindred crown]

Like with the 50 tp from the spring event (i forgot its name)

[solid gate]

I actually hate the Jag change, I don't want it to have less view range and longer reload

[kind flicker]

i agree because it will get 2 900+ shots in 15 seconds

regressor deserves combat stabilization, makes it such a good heavium

[kindred crown]

Dont forget less shell speed velocity

[solid gate]

That's why I hate it, I don't want tungsten and more mobility , I want the old Jag

[kindred crown]

They want you to play it like and assault plataform instead of a sniper i think

[valid gale]

“I’d rather tanks get tungsten then combat stabilization”
“I want this collector to get stabilization “
Nice 180

[kindred crown]

I have it but i dont play it to much, is it that good??

[solid gate]

Basically 50TP but a bit better ( I don't even have it yet )

[kindred crown]

And dont forget about HE, with HE and tungsten maybe it will be a one shot for some mediums, like with the fv183

[kind flicker]

the tank came out with vz at the same time with combat stabilization

[kind flicker]

goofy unreliable armour, good gun and amazingly mobility

[kindred crown]

I will tray it once i complete all its upgrades

[solid gate]

That's what I did with Magnate, but I still haven't fully upgraded fixer, so I'll probably never get the Regressor

[kind flicker]

i already have all 3, fixers the worst of them

[kindred crown]

Yea its a pain in the as to get it, specially if you dont buy in store

[solid gate]

I am a F2P player, So...... Yeah...

[kindred crown]

I think its ok, like, a super pershing with another camo, thats all, not good not bad, just.... its there

[kind flicker]

the mobility is good, turrets alright but the hull and gun suck imo

[kindred crown]

They cant penetrate you but you cant penetrate them either lol

[kindred crown]

I buy in store and even like that its a pain in the as, f2p its really imposible to grind it, sorry

I want to know what changes are going to be doing to the super conq, the cheiftain, the AMX 4 54 and 50B

[kind flicker]

i want to know about wz113gft, kran and 4005

[solid gate]

They already changed the French heavies last update.

[solid gate]

The 4005 is literally the only T10 I can't use, I hated it so much so I sold it

[kind flicker]

i enjoy it

[solid gate]

Also, who dares dislike this change? best change ever. Leo is gonna be more fun

[kindred crown]

But in this update i mean, every tier X will get and update, i dont remeber pretty much what changes they did to the M4 and the 50B

[solid gate]

They buffed the entire line

[kindred crown]

Why?? I though it was a good autoloader and td

[solid gate]

Tbh I just hate it, literally the only tank that I don't know how to play

[kindred crown]

Lol, i didnt know

[kindred crown]

Yep, more vr than the sheridan, and .30 shorter reload i mean like, who can complain, its nothing, same with the gun degree

[kindred crown]

I think it its suppose to be play like a td, using the shell booster same for the sigh booster, but i dont know i dont have it so i cant talk

[solid gate]

I do play it like a TD, it's just so big and always is a primary target to the enemy

[kindred crown]

Yeah because like i said, its an amaizing destroyer, like, you hide, shot all your clip, get to cover and repeat, it has a decent camouflage, and decent mobility, its just to know where to put the tank so you can dump your clip and get into safety

[solid gate]

That's the problem, I just can't help myself to learn it.
So I just gave up and sold it

[kindred crown]

Yeah it can be a little frustrating, and more with the fact that we only have like.... two maps to do that (the desert one and the tundra one), before the update we had like.... 3 or 4 maps where you could do so better in that tank

Same for the fv183

[solid gate]

So True
WG's map designs suck, only a few good maps

[kindred crown]

Yep, i know its a mobile game but the maps are so unbalanced for some tanks

[solid gate]

Yes

[frosty ibex]

2 crates

[strong bane]

Jesus your lucky

[pseudo cave]

Ace bar?

[frosty ibex]

Probably used all my luck for the year lol

[frosty ibex]

I got one of those

[cedar cradle]

Anybody know why my brother can't play his sheridan missile in normal battles?

[lavish zodiac]

Make the fact that it’s premium rounds are missles that are extremely annoying

[cedar cradle]

So they don't allow it because of it's missile's?

[lavish zodiac]

Duh. The Sheri had missiles originally and then they removed them and made the Sheri missle

[dull escarp]

Because you can't play it in normal battles, that's the point of the SM

[cedar cradle]

Kinda seems like a waste when you have it then if you can only use it in game modes that come out like every 5 months

[dull escarp]

You can play it on servers 👍

[fast compass]

That was the entire point. Missiles polarized the community. Most people hated the missiles. After a year, wg finally heard the community and removed it from normal play. But left a missile version for those who wanted to continue playing missiles for special gamemodes

[solid gate]

I’m going down the is7 now, currently on the is3 it’s a good tank but the front of it may as well be made from paper

[thorny smelt]

You should've read the description about the event. It is only playable in other game modes. Not on Regular Battles or Ratings.

[cedar cradle]

I didn't bother. I wasnt gonna get it anyways

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. Not really worth my time.

[shrewd siren]

yea i’m having kind of a hard time with it sometimes. hard to sidescrape bc the pike nose faces are so long. seems weaker than the PC version of the IS3, haven’t compared armor thickness though

[solid gate]

Is the tanks going forward better?

Or should I start a new line

[shrewd siren]

wym

ohhh. idk with the new proposed changes. probably wait and see how they feel post patch

the proposed changes for the IS7 look good though. titanium shells and an HP buff are probably gonna be awesome. I’m on IS3 currently

i don’t think the proposed IS7 penetration nerf from 260mm to 255mm is crazy, it’s still perfectly average pen for a t10 heavy

[meager spindle]

This is completely random to changes happening, but why has the kpz-70 never had a decent top speed, irl it went 64, which would be to fast for blitz when it comes to a "heavy" (it's more of a medium). why just 40 km/h, and for a modern tank also being only T9?, idk ever since they gave it out for free it makes no sense, if it went 50 by default then maybe 55-7 with super speed (if it got it) then it would help with its poke and bonk playstyle, maybe there's an explanation for being capped so low (from a "realism" sense). although it being an older tank is probs why.

just wanted an answer tbh even though it's so irrelevant

[raven gust]

Is the IS2 bad or does it just feel bad

[meager spindle]

(not to mention it's been buffed in the past iirc)

[blissful cave]

Kpz 70 being only tier 9 makes me think about how concept 1B and Strv K are both tier 9 in PC too but were upscaled to 10 in this game glad they did that
So kpz 70 being 10 in this game would make sense too

[sick raven]

5k blocked in is3

[sleek apex]

The tanks it was meant to replace historically are both in tier X ingame (Leo 1 & M60)

[blissful cave]

Wasn’t it like the super early stage of the Abrams? I may be wrong though

And concept 1B was meant to replace M60 not sure why they’d put that at tier 9 in pc

[sleek apex]

Nah it wasn't related to the Abrams, although the things both countries learned from it were adapted into Leopard 2 & Abrams

[valid gale]

Kpz /mbt isn’t related to abrams

[valid gale]

The kpz 70 was released during the time warthunder just released the Kpz 70/mbt 70 @meager spindle as the most recent tanks at the time during 2017 wargaming created a whole event with the Main prize winning the kpz 70 the game at the time was still pretty spartan so they decided just to keep it a tier 9

Long story short they just created the kpz to profit off of warthunder rapidly and ever since it’s just existed they won’t consider giving it the proper treatment

[meager spindle]

yeah i remember playing during the event when it came out

[blissful cave]

Gee wonder why they wouldn’t do the same when war thunder had the Finnish update and literally everyone was celebrating and having fun making videos with the BT-42
People like this tank I have no idea why they’ve sat on it for so long

[meager spindle]

Bt-42 sounds like a balanced tier 8 medium in crates with a 0.05% drop chance amirite?

[blissful cave]

Well no Itd make sense as a tier 6
Method of distribution idk
(I know that was a joke but still mentioned it)

If they want to profit or something then something like Churchill VIII but a free event or something would be really nice

[sacred robin]

Are people doing bad in the Vickers cuz this should not be mastery

[meager spindle]

here's some idea's for it in the hypothetical world it gets buffed remastered, this is also implying it'd become a tier 10

give it's turret a special ability called "spaced armor" (it's already ingame, but not properly), basically HEAT will not be able to pen it unless it's some of the highest calibers, while it is weaker to conventional AP rounds

increase max speed to 50, and then 55-7 with upgraded engine boost (also increase engine power to 850, i know it had around 1500 irl but cmon)

reduce base reload to around 14.5-15 seconds

increase gun depression to around 8 ish, iirc thats how much it has in warthunder

fix it's absurd lack of camo for being so low profile

and then trim down it's aim time and 100m dispersion

i know this isn't #tank-balance-discussion and im just discussing hypotheticals of the tank in a optimal world

for a reward to people that already have it in it's tier 9 form, give them the XM-803 (the american downgrade of the original MBT-70/KPZ)

(this is an XM)

[kindred crown]

Go for it men, the is 7 will be your last price and will be worth it, believe me

[meager spindle]

idk, it might have been my skill issue at the time but it didn't feel good to me

and i only made it buffs as it'd go up a tier making it only fight 9-10's

[modern crescent]

i feel like conway is cursed, every battle my teammates are trash and even i did well i just lose, resulting in a wr of 37%, this wont happen that often when i play other tier 9 TDs like wz-111g ft

[meager spindle]

about the UFP, would it work to also make it more flammable frontably as there should be a fuel tank there

along with it being weaker ofc

Upper Front Plate

[valid gale]

Nah this is a bad unnecessary compromise

The kpz had pretty bad protection (to modern standards) where the turret was rated 250-300 350+ thick to heat rounds with the turret and hull sides being incredibly thin ingame this pretty much translates to being paper to mediums. It would fill the role of a true heavium having the speed of a medium but no workable armor and average dpm with a decent gun

[safe cedar]

It already has extremely good aimtime and dispersion for its alpha though, also it didn't have 8° irl (it was like 4°)

[meager spindle]

oh, only 4? damn then we blessed fr, im not knowledgeable in cold war tanks so sorry for mistake

although wasn't the hydro suspension supoosed to boost it?

[rapid coyote]

What are all the meta t10 tanks right now

[meager spindle]

anything with an autoloader

[safe cedar]

Yeah, the hydro helped. But 4° is still very impressive for such a massive gun in such a low profile tank.

[meager spindle]

i still wish it was faster, that's really just my only wish for it

would make it a proper heavium like the strv k, just not the pewpewness

[safe cedar]

Honestly I don't see the issue with giving it 1500hp, afterall E50m, 50b, and Foch 155 have that kinda horsepower.

[meager spindle]

60 km/h

[safe cedar]

60 might be abit too high tbh.

55 would be good tho.

[meager spindle]

well irl it could go 69 (nice)

so 59-60 is a compromise for me

[safe cedar]

I thought It was higher?

[meager spindle]

it could probably go higher with an unrestricted engine

lemme find my og copy of great book of tanks and see what it says

okay so hp and speed is correct, but during trials they could push to 51 ish mph, however the transmission was getting strained

[safe cedar]

I guess maybe 55 + superspeed boost then?

[meager spindle]

ig that could work as what we are saying will never happen ingame anyways

[safe cedar]

Never know, lol.

[valid gale]

The max speed was 72 the “True” one is 65kmh

[meager spindle]

maybe next update it'll get pbr.. never know...

oh wait hold on- (this is a mod)

[safe cedar]

Mod

[meager spindle]

imagine a new legendary camo and when you get a kill in it the 20mm fires off a few rounds, that'd be neat

[turbid ferry]

Opened one of the lucky VIII containers for 10$ and got this, it was one I really wanted and I got it on my second time

[meager spindle]

isnt the kanonen super easy to HE

[turbid ferry]

I'm not sure

[modern crescent]

shd i use my 25 x3 xp on conway or T49 (get t54e1)?

[waxen drum]

cali or rammer on is-7?

[blissful cave]

I just use rammer for everything except autoloaders

And some exceptions like Rudy (same pen as tier 6 T-34-85)

I prefer to just take the faster reload and aim for a weak spot your standard pen will be good enough to pen most tanks weak spots

[waxen drum]

average damage is definitely better with rammer

[weak void]

what equipment should i run for the object 260?

[dim pollen]

Which gun shall I research in waffle? The 460 dmg one (12.8 cm L/61) or 600 dmg one (15 cm Pak L/38)?

[halcyon lotus]

rammer or calibrated (both are good options), modules, optics, enhanced gun laying drive, improved assembly, engine accelerator, vertical stabilizer, toolbox, consumable delivery system

also here are some stuff for learning how to play the 260
https://guidesblitz.com/object-260/
https://www.youtube.com/live/_KprnMycZHE?feature=share

[meager bone]

grind out stock comet modules or free exp? if free exp, which ones?

[dim pollen]

Comet is pretty fun tank to use. The modules are relatively cheap to research if u enable premium account and also enable multipliers

[meager bone]

👍

[dim pollen]

Well u can play 20 games, doesn't matter u win or not and get ur hands on 25 x3 multipliers. Use them at ur disposal

[meager bone]

whats the recommended upgrade order? suspensions, turret, gun?

[waxen drum]

what's a line that's fun to play

[dim pollen]

Even if u upgrade the engine and suspensions, u won't be fast like cromwell. But the top gun has amazing dpm and pen.

[meager bone]

mm alright. thanks for the tips

turret's also the one with the crazy gun depression isn't it

[dim pollen]

Hulldown tactic works best with comet. Enjoy comet as much as u can cuz the next tank in the series will punish u for being unmindful in any map.
Centurion 1 is good but not forgiving like crom or comet

[dim pollen]

Yeah. Hence use the hulldown as much as u can

[meager bone]

i try to never rush lines and fully 'understand' a tank before moving onto the next

[dim pollen]

I must mention that all the three tanks have different playstyle

Centurion 1 requiring the most skills

[meager bone]

will definitely keep that in mind

[surreal zodiac]

Is the Ju To worth keeping ?

[rich blade]

I disliked it, so I sold it, but if you liked it, sure keep it, sometimes its nice to play the old tanks that u grinded long ago throw

[limpid ether]

nah it isnt worth keeping

[waxen drum]

which lines are fun to play?

[rich blade]

Well what do u think is fun in the game ?

[waxen drum]

autoloaders/reloaders

[rich blade]

T57 is great atm, AMX 50b feels also pretty okay atm if you can handle how big and not armored the tank is, TVP is probably one of the best mediums atm, BC25t and FV4005 are very hard to play but can be fun

wouldnt recommend Foch, progetto, kran or mino atm, but these tanks still have open changes that we dont know yet, so mayyyyybe something spicy is comming

(Me waiting for Progetto buff)

[waxen drum]

i have all of them already 💀 except for TVP i'll try that out

also, is e4 good now? i've been seeing alot of them lately

[limpid ether]

T110E4? its been good since last year

[waxen drum]

ight nice

[pseudo swift]

Prog is good

[wheat cloud]

No but chi-se is really worth keeping

[half kiln]

Is is4 worth it to grind?

[wheat cloud]

No it will not be worth it because by the time you ground the tank up it will have gotten its legs broken by wg

[half kiln]

I am on st I 💀

[wheat cloud]

Well then keep on going unlock it, st1 is a very good tank anyways. However look at the changes in #coming-soon

[half kiln]

Thanks

[swift oracle]

Great

A great strong tank

[modern crescent]

now T49, t54e1 or t92e1

[indigo burrow]

What’s the best line to grind as a noob?

[rich blade]

60TP

[indigo burrow]

could you explain why you think it’s a good first line? Compared to other heavy tank lines?

[rich blade]

The line is pretty nice to grind in fact the tier 8 is on of the best tier 8s out there, the 60Tp features decent mobility, armor is pretty easy to understand and the gun hits hard, its a flexible tank and the high alpha helps that u dont need to peak that much to do damage

E100 line is also pretty decent

[onyx talon]

140 slowly became light
And is 4 slowly became medium
I love wargaming!

[swift oracle]

Simply play it hull down

[limpid ether]

might aswell use ST-I since that tank has 8 degrees of gun depression compared to IS-4s 6

[swift oracle]

I have ST-1

[trail laurel]

They should change 140 into Light tank Role

[rich blade]

but then it would lose HP, why would u want that

[trail laurel]

140 is literally a Fat T100LT without Mechanic and Bad Camouflage this point 🗿

[novel bone]

What is recommended for E4? Gun rammer or Calibrated shells?

[blissful cave]

At parola they’re having a special event thing and they started up the engine of the T-72 (but didn’t drive it around tho)

[glass light]

im curious if anybody still plays the Medjay?
i dont see alot of em in battles even though it is a good tank
even againts its own tank because of the thick armor.

[wheat cloud]

Medjay is basically the best tV, everytime i for some unfathomable reason boot a t4-6 game theres min 2 of them

[glass light]

it is however a limited because it was released for free and only once so far.

[wheat cloud]

yes it has grown a bit dusty among players however its still popular

[glass light]

will it be in crates? like the bad company crates or the other?

ive never seen a medjay in crates , although the other T5 collectors are

[wheat cloud]

No bad company is for halloween iirc. I have no clue though

Still new so we oughta wait to see

[glass light]

well the tank was halloween based .
havent you got one?
it came along with the Pharaoh

[wheat cloud]

Wasnt playing back then though i must say i regret not having both

[meager bone]

Which gun do I want on the comet?

The one with hesh or the 3 sec reload one

[solid gate]

I'm really trying to get to understand the AMX 13 90 but there's something i can't get about it.

• The gun itself is nice : 2000DPM compared to the 1800 of the bourrasque. It can also reach 0.29 of gun disperson, which is also fairly good. 6° of depression is bad, but that's a rear turret syndrom and I have no problems on the batchat.

-Mobility wise, the tank is a bit sluggy to accelerate, even with all possible consumables. The concealment is exellent and the view range is great.

Just one point : I can't get out more than a 1000 damage on average. With 200 damage per shot, i can't play the poke and trade game since average damage is 300. If i push a flank left alone, i'm seen as an easy prey and immediatly focused, also to slow to flee.

When i'm trying to fullfill my scout duty, by taking an aggressive bush, not shooting, There's always an enemy where i don't expect it and i get hesh'ed for being overly aggressive.

I know poditioning is key, just... where is it ?
It's not playable like the batchat since it's not as nervous.
If anyone had an idea of where i'm wrong, or links to commented matches using the 13 90, that would greatly help

[limpid ether]

its either a flanker or a hit and runner, use it to shoot the enemies sides from a distance of atleast 150m while tehy are not focused on you, or use it to go run around the map and shooting enemies up in maps like himmelsdorf

[solid gate]

Since maps are small, on the side is called another flank, with enemies and obstacles between those flanks !

[limpid ether]

yes.

[lyric copper]

you do not trade in a 13 90

you steal HP and run away with it

the problem with the 13 90 is its slower unload for less damage, relatively speaking, a whole 5s for a mere 675 damage isnt really worth it considering the fragility of the vehicle, with shell reload boost, it can be faster, however the 13 75 and 25t AP either burst so much faster, or have a higher clip potential, so the 13 90 is the most painful of the line.

you'll need to have some major map knowledge and the ability to plan at least 4 steps ahead.

Try take some lessons on how it was planned to be used in real-life combat. From a mid-long range, dump a clip, and get ready to run. It's always better to begin to run than try get another shell in, if the situation gets hot

[limber bison]

I want grillë back to it's former glory maybe a bit nerfed

[limpid ether]

Grille 1

[limber bison]

Lolll

[strong bane]

Why os the tiger 131 so common at tier 6?

[lyric copper]

youre playing against bots

[strong bane]

I forgot they are a thing

[strong bane]

Are there bots at every tier? Or are they just in tier 1-6

[lyric copper]

they stop at a certain point iirc

[limber bison]

I saw a tiger II bot.

[solid wolf]

is m60 patton a real tank?

[limpid ether]

yes lmao

[honest creek]

Please do some research

[solid wolf]

well i heard its the m60 1950s variant. well the first m60

[limpid ether]

M60 patton straight up was Americas MBT from the late 1960s to 1980s with it eventually being replaced by M1 Abrams

10.3 update wont be here for a few months right?

[trail laurel]

Maybe

[solid wolf]

i see it has many variants too.. but yea it makes sense to put the first m60 because the m60a1 is much advanced tank and not fit on the timeline of tanks in the game.

[honest creek]

Someone tried to improve the M60s themselves and created the M60-2000

[fast compass]

10.3 is probably 6-7 weeks away depending on when 10.2 releases

[trail laurel]

Kpz 70 🗿

[solid wolf]

hmm but the premium m60 dosent have the large commanders copula haha

[trail laurel]

Kpz 70 is good ngl the only problem is the armour

[solid wolf]

i really liked my m60 premium, i hope there's more legendary camos to it.

[sleek apex]

Yeah the ingame M60 has the urdan cupola so it wouldn't be worse than the M48 (its tumor was removed some time before M60 was added)

[solid wolf]

i see

[sleek apex]

I don't see a problem with the M60A1 personally, not too much of a jump and it would make the tank more different than the M48

Just keep the urdan cupola so it wouldn't be bad

[solid wolf]

but its already 1970s tank i think tanks in wargaming only put are in the 1940,1950s and 60s

[sleek apex]

M41D is a Taiwanese tank from 1990's

[limpid ether]

screw type 68, i hate it, imma sell it for AMX 50 100

[honest creek]

And is still in service

[sleek apex]

If it was something like T-72 then i would agree with you, but M60A1 doesn't have composite armor nor a smoothbore gun.

[solid wolf]

1990!?

[sleek apex]

Yeah

Anyways i am excited for the Chieftain's upcoming legendary camo, i hope its something like the recent Vickers one

[blissful cave]

Ohhh I’d love a realistic chieftain camo

[copper swan]

or just bring in israeli M60

[copper swan]

oh wait, M60 in wot blitz is already like that, since it doesn't have a big cupola

[sleek apex]

Without the ERA yeah, the M48 ingame are technically Magach 4

[sleek apex]

The turret change are just the main point of it, so it would be less identical than tech tree counterpart

[sleek apex]

Absolutely

[blissful cave]

Hopefully with a mesh-y cannon the mine plow would be cool too if it was part of the camo and not the dumb tea time attachment that’s like an extra 5K gold for nothing

Like the one they have at the tank museum but the tank itself hopefully something like the other realistic British camos like the 183 hammer and vickers one

Ok so the picture won’t send I don’t have good service rn

[last osprey]

what are those things at the back of the fv4005 turret??

[thorny smelt]

I guess that's how it is shaped

[lyric oriole]

It's for structural integrity. If you had just a long thin slab of metal like that holding shells and other items it would start to bend from gravity

[strange badge]

🤓

[lyric oriole]

Yes, thank you for your contribution to the conversation Mr. Caveman.

[thorny smelt]

Does it also serve as a counter-weight?

[odd cove]

don’t think so

[fast compass]

It's just a turret covering right. So it simply helps keep the shape. I even doubt they even stow anything on the turret walls. Tho I am no expert or know the blueprints to say with certainty

[balmy compass]

Looks like they might store racks on the walls

[odd cove]

there’s the ammo rack in the sides and an entry point behind of the turret

[thorny smelt]

And a door behind it

[fast compass]

Ig it makes sense since it kinda coincides with the the structural supports

[odd cove]

since the gun takes up the front half of the turret

[cloud hound]

Guys the nightmare is a stuh 42g

And i absolutely love it

[blissful cave]

Parola has this thing that shows the armor thickness of a T-54 (or T-55 idk these two are so similar)

Just look at that turret thickness

[pseudo cave]

Why cut it up 🥺

[onyx raven]

To show people how it looks inside.

[blissful cave]

I think the T-54/55 was their most abundant tank and somewhat more of a recent one so using just one to show what the inside and armor thickness looks like is cool
It’s better than scrapping (which Finland did a lot of (T_T)

There would be like 8 or 9 surviving BT-42’s but all but one were scrapped (the other 8 or 9 were destroyed in battle)

[balmy compass]

yes, the T-54/55 was the most built tank ever

[gloomy nymph]

Hi gyes

Is t 25 is good tank for attack?

[maiden haven]

I think Obj. 140 need buff he need more pen what do you think ?

[glad valve]

No

It's all ready getting insane buffs so no

[misty wing]

it really isn't, lol

[kind flicker]

no

[swift oracle]

AMX 13 75 is Greattt

Very fast! U flank enemy, u kill all of em... u have 3 clip shot that deals 150 each. I love it

[valid gale]

That’s the actual ammo rack by the way

The thing is the ammo is so dam gigantic it’s pretty much seated like battleship shells and as a result the 4005 has a short hallway hence the door on the back

[calm drum]

mohamed_hamada#0 was banned.

[little helm]

Nice

[onyx raven]

The armour, alpha, and view range nerfs would like to argue that point.

[onyx raven]

What if I told you that I have a big fat HE shell for you?

[swift oracle]

Id just outrun it. Going 63kmh

[onyx raven]

That paper would be just as effective as your armour ngl

[swift oracle]

Ok now ur going to brazil

[onyx raven]

And you say I'm unfunny

[crude shard]

Hi. Important question for you all who actually know what they are doing… I have 150K free XP (120K free xp and 1000 gold to convert if need be), should I?

1. Get and max out AT15
2. Get IS-8
3. Get E-75
4. Save a bit more and get Vickers Light
5. Get T43
6. Get 53TP Markieowskiego
7. Get SMV CC-58

[tiny oak]

Generally speaking you shouldn't use free exp to research tanks other than like saving yourselfna single battle or something. Or maybe skipping the rare truly awful tank. So, imo, just use it to skip stock grind on tanks you already have. If you are deadset on getting a new tank, fair enough either pick the one you are closest to anyway or skip over a tank you really don't want to play

[obsidian frigate]

IS 130 master ace much??

[pallid citrus]

in my opinion i’d get the vickers light since i like playing lights but if you like heavies you should try to get the 53tp so that you can get the 60tp after

[obsidian frigate]

Hey how do you Like the Idee of the ,, White Tiger'' with a fire amunition with 5- 15 % more fire ??

[odd cove]

what

[solid gate]

Getting onto the easy path by using free XP to skip a tank means later suffering by using a stock tank.

Never ever research a tank with free XP

If you are wondering, stock means you are obligated to grind for modules

[high spire]

Does anyone know how much the is5 is after you get tier 10 access?

[balmy compass]

1500 gold

[trail laurel]

I just realized that Conqueror and FV 215B 120mm gun have 170mm HE pen

[sleek apex]

HESH shells, that's why

[trail laurel]

Idk why but S.Conqueror has 110mm Hesh Pen while Conqueror have 170mm pen even they use almost same gun

[wicked thunder]

Balancing reasons

[balmy compass]

Balance
S Conq is already stupid strong so it shouldn’t have more HESH pen

[trail laurel]

Impenetrable Turret 🗿

[plucky summit]

Not impenetrable at all

[quiet juniper]

Which one is an easier grind, the 60TP, or Type 7 line?

[dim pollen]

U mean the Japanese type 71?

[dim pollen]

Personally I found 60tp line enjoyable and fun to grind. Tier 8 is absolute beast while the tier 9 teaches u patience which is needed to play the tier X

Japanese heavy line is not that good. Slow rate of fire and sluggish movements. Some tanks in the line will wreck ur nerves (mitsu 108). Altogether, it requires more skill to play.

[quiet juniper]

Oh my bad, yeah that. I’ve been told both lines are great for a newish player

But def leaning towards 60TP line now

[dim pollen]

Naah. Japanese line is not at all great for new players haha.

I would suggest to proceed with any autoloader line too cuz they are meta in the game right now.

Swedish heavy line, Czech medium, French light, etc.

Just go parallel with any one of them. U won't regret 🙂

[odd cove]

if you played before the type nerf

[tulip knot]

Maybe not so much the French light tanks… much less forgiving to newer players

[dim pollen]

Well he can learn the techniques pretty quickly if he is grinding for other tanks

[hollow egret]

My grind for 60TP Is still in progress and I am currently losing my sanity, Please help good Sir.
(However I still have some fun on the tanks before 60TP)

[crude shard]

I am very much aware. How can you be in a position to get those tanks and not know what stock means. Vickers Light is Tier X anyway so no modules of research

[blissful cave]

Oh I forgot to mention yesterday’s tank of the day was Tiger II

There was a special event for it at parola so seemed fitting and they brought out this giant RC one and can see the real one in the back there

[modern crescent]

is the T71 similar to french lights?

[blissful cave]

Kinda haven’t really played em much but I’m sure they play the same they look very similar and have small damage pew pew autoloaders

[thorn folio]

I mean yeah, it's pretty much an american 13 75

Albeit the 13 75 is the much better of the two

[modern crescent]

if i perform well in t71 do u think i'll also perform well in french lights?

[thorn folio]

You should, they pretty much all play exactly the same tbh

[modern crescent]

ok

[thorn folio]

The tier 9 is uh.... it's a bit rough though, it's a bit sluggish compared to every other tank in the line

Batchat is great and is well worth it

Though I'd honestly wait until they release the french balance pass before you make a decision on grinding the line.

[blissful cave]

T54E1? I surprisingly really liked that tank I thought it was good
Probably my favorite tier 9 where the tier 9 wasn’t the one I specifically wanted (T30,T95,jagdtiger and conqueror)

T30 and T95 are my two favorite tier 9’s I play em often the 95 also being in my top 10 favorite irl tanks too

[modern crescent]

wanna get T95 too but t28 is just hell no

[strong bane]

Why are the Czech heavy tanks so under whelming

[blissful cave]

I mostly free xp’d through it same with 28 prototype for T30 they’re just no

[modern crescent]

got it a few days ago and sold it lmao
gon earn free xp and get t95 directly

[blissful cave]

I did play T28 quite a bit tho I didn’t skip over it entirely like I did with prototype

I’m doing lines less often now so I stock up free xp more I did pretty much all the ones I want

[thorn folio]

T28 is really good wdym

3K dpm at tier 8 is really good

[blissful cave]

T95 and T30 are very similar like two sides of the same coin
Both do like the same damage but one doesn’t really have armor (hull) but has a turret and one is super armored but no turret

[modern crescent]

umm the cupola and speed just scared me lol

[thorn folio]

The cupolas are... harder to hit oddly enough than one would think

[modern crescent]

also the lower plate
and only 5 degs of gun dep so its hard to hide the lower plate

[blissful cave]

T28 has a lower plate but T95 does not

[modern crescent]

yes

[waxen drum]

vickers or fv4202?

[quasi wedge]

Fv4202 has HESH, Vickers not
But idk which one is better

[sleek apex]

This one is a T-54, also nice tour on the museum, must have been fun

[waxen drum]

basically, which one is better in their role as a medium/light

[modern crescent]

is the na server mostly bots now? cuz everyone's asleep

[limpid ether]

Vickers does have hesh, but only 105mm pen

[strong bane]

What do you think about the Czech heavy line?

[dim pollen]

Didn't grind them yet. But I think other heavies are better

[limpid ether]

the only thing the Vz 55 line has going for it is combat stabilization mechanic, other than that its just a tier 10 Skoda T 56

[lavish musk]

50tp prototype is awesome, best t9 tank i think

[strong bane]

Too late I'm already tier 7

[blissful hamlet]

Not a bad line.

[strong bane]

The upgrade from tier 6 to 7 isn't noticeable at all. The tier 7 so far is a worse upgrade of the tier 6

[solid fractal]

No such line in the game 🤓

[strong bane]

🤓

[solid fractal]

The tanks are Czechoslovak, not Czech.

[strong bane]

I'm not bothered to say the whole name

[solid fractal]

Then you might as well say Slovak.