vehicles-discussion

[pseudo swift]

is grinding for the e100 worth it

[solid gate]

I want that, i think better then Maus

[wise moth]

I’m serious. Maus doesn’t have a great armor profile for static play, since it’s never going to be able to deal damage without taking any back (unlike communist heavies like IS-7, IS-4, 60TP, etc… which can just sit hulldown with impunity)

The only way Maus can be effective is by using the sheer weight of its HP as a sort of “unstoppable force”. Some shells are going to pen, some are going to bounce, but between the random bounces off the lower plate, broad “arc of effective protection”, and 3k HP, it takes a long time to kill when used offensively.

[solid gate]

So lead the charge, ok will keep that in mind

[pseudo swift]

im going for it, currently at the tiger 1

[solid gate]

Tiger 1 sucks

[pseudo swift]

it sucks? ive been having a lot of good games

[solid gate]

ya pen the track plate, easy, also prob getting bots

[wise moth]

The other thing I would keep in mind is the proper turret angle. Lots of players under-angle the turret. This is the proper turret angle against the enemy on flat ground. If they’re below you, you should angle it even further to the side. If they’re above you, angle slightly less

[solid gate]

Ok thats cool, never thought of angling the turret

[pseudo swift]

Im not getting bots :(, im getting russians

[solid gate]

Oh your Eu

[pseudo swift]

Yeah im eu. Every match at least half of the team is russian, friendly + enemy

[solid gate]

Bruh

[neat nimbus]

should i install on it?

[misty wing]

Maybe a hot take but the T95E6 is the most overrated tier 10 right now

I've seen people say it's OP or a must buy tank but it just really isn't for me

[thorny smelt]

How about Chieftain Mk. 6?

[neat nimbus]

did they just added it now?

[misty wing]

I think it's the only tier 10 premium I've never owned, so not sure

[neat nimbus]

well no sight of the fox camo hope makes a return in some other event

[thorny smelt]

Probably not recommended for me

[misty wing]

The E6 leans a bit too far into the medium side as far as heaviums go, it's pretty much impossible to actually play it like a heavy, like you could for something like an E5 or 113/5A. And when you treat it like a medium, it's got roughly on par dpm with the AMX 30b, which is much maligned for having poor DPM, and the gun handling on the move is atrocious, without fast aiming speed to make up for it like the 121 does

[silent knoll]

It’s a good tank, but now that people know all the weak spots, it’s best to play at a distance where u can peek and drop down. @misty wing you might want to consider buying one if it comes to blitz fair. Plus there are currently good gold offers in store atm

[solid gate]

there's a reason it's a medium on pc

[misty wing]

I'm aware. Frankly, I would just rather have the extra agility, DPM, and gun handling of a pure-bred medium at least 7 times out of 10 than the E6's HP and HEAT pen

[shadow fable]

guys is amx 30b good

[mystic sleet]

If you want a tier 10 medium tank, just go for the Obj 907.

[shadow fable]

ye I'll get that in a few years

[misty wing]

hmm

[thorny smelt]

I got the AMX-30B and it is highly vulnerable to any shell

[amber moth]

Su 100m1 or su 152?

[misty wing]

SU-152, no contest
the entire line for the 263 sucks

[neat nimbus]

Worst decision I made

Spent gold on the battle pass crates I regret on everything I should've bought the m41d and some camo

[misty wing]

I don't know why you'd want a rather tall and vulnerable to HE light tank in the same tier as the smasher and SU-152 ngl

it's not bad, but I can't have any fun at all with those circumstances

[neat nimbus]

I couldn't afford the Drácula and i Don't want buy another "t26 sherrif" (another tank everyone says is good just turns out to be a meh bad tank)

[misty wing]

the sheriff is a tier 8 and it's very good

[neat nimbus]

Not fun so to me is kind of meh

So I was at 7k of gold close to 8

[misty wing]

sheriff is a heavy anyway

[neat nimbus]

But due my circumstances and the fact I don't have WiFi on my house I was in well on pressure

I ended up doing my big mistake is gonna take me long get back to 7k again

Knowing beforehand how the battle pass crates works I should've bought something else

And none of regret would be happening

Now I'm crying about it dang it...

[thorny smelt]

Me who grinds the Object 263:

[misty wing]

you must be either a masochist or a collector

[tulip flower]

how is the k-91?

[neat nimbus]

So I won't be able to buy anything from the auction

[analog hedge]

Is VK.72 good as an e100 user i just got it

[halcyon lotus]

vk 72 is good

[analog hedge]

Ok thx

[thorny smelt]

Both LOL

[misty wing]

it's okay I played the stock ST-I camoless 50% crew no equipment no provisions no prammo on 1000 ping once

[halcyon lotus]

speaking of e100 any tips on the e100? i’ve enjoyed playing it but i currently have light blue wn8. also yes i angle, its one of the main reasons why i find the e100 more fun than 60tp

[analog hedge]

Wdym wn8

[opaque flicker]

Did all of that without the ping before, still managed to get above 2k damage somehow

[stoic tulip]

Should I get AMx 13 57 or M41d?

[tepid stump]

Depends on what you prefer

[plucky summit]

In blitzstars.com, there is a rating system on performance called WN8 (a better version of WN7)

Light blue means "Very Good"

It goes by a percentile system, I guess, but this is the order of colors

[strange thicket]

just don't get hit
use speed

[lilac mica]

Get M41D
AMX 13 75 is literally better

[vapid condor]

Skoda t 56 or is 5?

[fast breach]

Definitely skoda t56, is5 is outdated but still workable

[wise coral]

It will be funny if wargaming devs to open a new play style by adding controls for multi turret and Gun like what is happening in war of warships blitz

[vapid condor]

Thanks!

[empty helm]

Just watch out for Skoda t56's DPM and accuracy

[grim sorrel]

why use t56 when the 53tp is better in every aspect

[plucky summit]

Not really

It is the worse option, it just sacrifices a little much for the 450 alpha

[grim sorrel]

better penetration, reload, mobility, smaller cupola, better redistances, better dispersion etc of the 53tp vs t56

[plucky summit]

"every" aspect is where my issue stands

I'm sure that you're generalizing, here, but I'm nitpicking the wording

[grim sorrel]

yeah thats fair, however i honestly think theres nothing aside from alpha that t56 performes better at

[plucky summit]

I’ll have to test but it seems to stand strong to prammo

For comedically high pen HEAT, T56 stands

[lilac mica]

To be honest i’m not even surprised

[fast breach]

You're aware that he wanted other's opinion about the IS5 and the skoda right?
Plus each one of them has its pros and cons

[fast breach]

And I love that "every aspect" so accurate indeed

[grim sorrel]

yes it is accurate, its why i said it

[plucky summit]

💀

[fast breach]

💀

[violet timber]

It literally isn’t accurate my dude, get your head out of the sand

[lilac mica]

It’s like saying 252u’s gun is accurate
I wish that tank was more accurate

[plucky summit]

I think he meant factually accurate

[lilac mica]

You may be right

[main ginkgo]

Anni or Grave?

[plucky summit]

Anni > Grave

[main ginkgo]

Fv183 or Fv4005

[lilac mica]

4005

[violet timber]

183!

[main ginkgo]

60tp or E100

[plucky summit]

Can you group all of these in a list?

[lilac mica]

^

[main ginkgo]

Wdym?

[grim sorrel]

it is accurate, 53tp beats skoda t56

[violet timber]

It’s not better in every aspect 💀

[grim sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[grim sorrel]

yes it is

[violet timber]

Ah yes, every aspect, except for alpha, dispersion factors, camo and armor.

[plucky summit]

I mean “tank vs tank”, if you have any future ones, instead of saying one at a time

[grim sorrel]

ding dong, youre wrong 🤡

[violet timber]

Bro can't even read 💀 congrats on being illiterate

[grim sorrel]

worse dispersion, worse armour, single digit % over 53tp on camo, you sure youre not illiterate?

or are you ome of those weird "the single decimal points matter 🤓" kinda people

[amber ingot]

Bro cant even read stats💀

[violet timber]

You said every aspect 🤡

[grim sorrel]

yes, because it is

[violet timber]

Bruh, there's no reason to lie through your teeth, you literally posted a screenshot showing that it isn't

[amber ingot]

bro youre 🤓

[violet timber]

bro youre 🤡

[grim sorrel]

nobody is lying, we can see all the red on the screenshot under t56

[violet timber]

💀

[fast compass]

This discussion is a massive 💀
You are being pedantic.
And you're bringing something irrelevant to the original question. Skoda or is5? Skoda is the answer. Maybe he already has the best Soviet style heavy(53tp)

[amber ingot]

dude stop acting like we are in court open your eyes and learn to read

[grim sorrel]

based reply

[violet timber]

💀

[plucky summit]

Alright y'all chill before a pinky shows up 🙄

[amber ingot]

who asked

[fast compass]

Well if he doesn't have the 53tp, This discussion probably persuaded him

[violet timber]

Sorry for being correct, guess that's not politically correct nowadays

[heavy nest]

Does anyone know when the super conqueror will be in store soon?

[fast compass]

I asked. Turns out there is this voice in my head that talks to me

[grim sorrel]

pinky? no thx i dont like raw chicken

[amber ingot]

ask wg

[violet timber]

I'd say the chistmas auctions are gonna be when it comes

[plucky summit]

Don't actually ask WG

[grim sorrel]

youre not correct, you are however a victim of two men by the names of dunning and kruger

[heavy nest]

Oof

[violet timber]

You posted a screenshot showing I'm correct 🤡

[plucky summit]

I say the base dispersion difference overrides the difference in dispersion on movement

[grim sorrel]

just combine base and move dispersion and you have the number you should be comparing, yup

[plucky summit]

You see that's generalizing

[amber ingot]

bro stop making up sh1t💀

[violet timber]

Where did I make anything up?

[grim sorrel]

worse dispersion, worse armour, single digit % over 53tp on camo, you sure youre not illiterate?

or are you ome of those weird "the single decimal points matter 🤓" kinda people
to restate already said things

[plucky summit]

It's better in every general aspect, but there are still specific disadvantages of the Skoda, okay?

We're agreeing, just with the wrong intentions

[violet timber]

I said skoda had better otm, not dispersion. Also chickenman posted a screenshot showing skoda's armor profile as better

[grim sorrel]

"Ah yes, every aspect, except for alpha, dispersion factors, camo and armor."

you must be a habitual liar then

[amber ingot]

no we dont agree you all are suffering under nelson mandela effect

[violet timber]

Dispersion factors are the same as otm 💀

And you're one to talk about habitual lying mr "53TP is better in every aspect"

[fast breach]

Why the "every aspect, yes it is" then?, no need to override your personal opinion over facts

Your attitude is what made everyone attack you btw

[grim sorrel]

53tp is better in evrery aspect, yes.

[violet timber]

I agree that in general the 53TP is better, except in armor profile where the Skoda takes the cake

[plucky summit]

Okay, let's look at colors here. There are both green and red comparison slots, so that means 53TP isn't better in every single aspect, and nobody should argue that it is.

If you generalize, yes, 53's better, but you shouldn't say in every aspect

[fast breach]

Imagine 💀

[amber ingot]

i can prove that 53tp excels in every aspect , wanna see my source?

[plucky summit]

😐

[fast breach]

Skoda has: more camo, more terrain resistance on medium terrain, more damage, more HEAT pen, more upperplate armor, better turret front, slightly better side maybe even more but I'm too lazy to search for such a useless proof "every aspect"

[fast breach]

My source : trust me dude

[balmy compass]

Should be a gif, odd

[amber ingot]

yeah my source is i made it the fck up

[fast breach]

Discord

[grim sorrel]

53tp has better terrain resistance, better dpm more armour, better turret front, better side armour

[balmy compass]

Skoda looks goofy

[plucky summit]

I'm going to actively make my armor less effective because it matches the position of a different tank 🗿

[violet timber]

At least use the same penetration value when looking at armor pfofiles 💀

[grim sorrel]

they are. 53tp without calibrate has same penetration as t56 with calibration

[solid gate]

Hello

[plucky summit]

Basically, at least

[fast breach]

I'm cringing so hard rn

[solid gate]

Hello

[violet timber]

Alright, I'll admit, I didn't see the cali shells

[grim sorrel]

no problem, the UI is a weird green that doesnt make it clear at first glance

[plucky summit]

How are we ever going to get anywhere if we disagree on what "every aspect" means?

[mighty creek]

Hello

[grim sorrel]

assuming single digit % dont matter, every aspect is won by 53tp

[violet timber]

Alpha

[plucky summit]

Sounds like we need * don't we?

[fast breach]

I said turret not cupola, and pen, dpm, are slight differences, you're right with the side armor

[fast compass]

And round and round we go...

[mighty creek]

I want to play wot blizr with you

[fast breach]

I'm quitting this cringe discussion this guy is already 💀

[grim sorrel]

53tp has the same armour in the trackwell as on its side whereas t56 only has marginal trackwell armour vs its side armour, its an easy thing to not realise

[plucky summit]

Especially with 3CRB in play

[amber ingot]

common strategy from those who lost the argument

[fast breach]

And?

[violet timber]

Common strategy for those who want to keep their braincells in this sertver

[fast breach]

Ah you're the one that flames the discussion for me entertainment... here "idc"

Plus I didn't lose any arguments, the guy has an "every aspect" issues

[amber ingot]

then why do you keep replying if you said you leave then gtfo💀

very entertaining

[fast breach]

Keep your language pls, no need to go trash talking, and I go whenever I won't soooo not your business lol

[grim sorrel]

need me to highlight all your numerous trash talking in the past 10 mins there buddy?

or would you prefer droppjng the hypocrisy

[amber ingot]

bro youre a hypocrite

[plucky summit]

We can agree to disagree in our own fields 💀
Seems neither side between STV and Indominus wants to step into the other

[fast breach]

Trash talking.. damn go ahead, I wanna see myself saying Fs and big Es

I rly love how the discussion went to far from what it was about

[grim sorrel]

you must have a real slim, cherry picked definition of trash talking huh

[fast breach]

Sure don't forget to show it to a mod u both a most likely friends.
A clan that lives up for its name

[amber ingot]

@fast breach bro stop acting like a grown up you have to take every goofy ah word literal and make a whole scene about it

[grim sorrel]

no clue who he is but frankly i might become friends with him if it pisses you off so much

@amber ingot come join my clan

[fast breach]

Bro stop acting like the 12 year old just here for watching others argue

[amber ingot]

first you say youre not arguing and now you are? thats some damn real hypocrisy right here

[fast breach]

I don't care about your opinions, I didn't lose any arguments, I will leave only because I have a life unlike you both :), hopefully a discord mod comes and shuts this worthless discussion anyways

[plucky summit]

Okay that's it, <@&481447501690568709> come sort it

[grim sorrel]

yeah this duck guy is super insulting

[plucky summit]

We'll all find out who has been

[amber ingot]

we are politely discussing, wheres the issue? except for @fast breach

[grim sorrel]

i was only stating 53tp > t56 so i hope i dont get nuked

[plucky summit]

We all agree on that

Right up until you said "every aspect"

[amber ingot]

for real people just stating their opinions then this duck guy comes from his corner and thinks his opinion is the only valid one on earth

[plucky summit]

I mean, he started the whole 53TP vs T56 thing

[grim sorrel]

i said that in my initial comment tho, idk why people gotta start arguments unrelated to the topic

[fast breach]

Who?

[plucky summit]

You did, no?

@grim sorrel did this entire thing not sprout from you saying "every aspect"?

[fast breach]

Was it me who said 53tp is alot alot better than skoda in every every aspect?

[plucky summit]

No, STV did

[amber ingot]

bro forgot the reason for his argument💀

[grim sorrel]

yeah i said 53tp better than t56 in every aspect, the game itself rounds to the nearest whole too

[plucky summit]

Hold on, let me correct myself, yes, STV brought up T56 vs 53TP, but Duckling initiated when it was vs IS-5

[plucky summit]

Well there's still the loose end of damage per shot

[dreamy osprey]

pause on chat. failure to follow the instruction may result in mute

[fast breach]

The discussion started with someone asking which is better, is5 or skoda, then the guy says 53tp better in every aspect, my only problem was that every aspect, I did not flame, nor insult like those 2 claim, now and they are the ones that started the disrespect, now I'm the one being guilty here?

[amber ingot]

please show me the part where "disrespect" happened

[dreamy osprey]

Language.

[fast breach]

"Gtfo" said by you 😐

[dreamy osprey]

to be frank. the discussion is going on for what 2 hours now. I suggest you guys move on from this discussion and no one will get any warns or mutes

I hope you got this @fast breach @amber ingot @grim sorrel

[fast breach]

Yes please

[amber ingot]

"Live and let live"- Aristotle

[wise moth]

“Be mean to them on discord lmao” -Sun Tzu

[violet timber]

Oh wow, a lot happened in here

[dreamy osprey]

Everyone has opinions, forcing your opinion on other will only result in trouble.

[grim sorrel]

look, i was trying to talk about the tank xD

[dreamy osprey]

Just let that topic slide anyways don't bring it up now

[grim sorrel]

how about a 45tp vs skoda 45t then

[dreamy osprey]

How about no?

Just let it go for today. take a break

[swift oracle]

Is KV-3 good?

[violet timber]

It's pretty average

[swift oracle]

What canon should i use?

[wise moth]

The big 122mm gun

Get used to it, because if you didn’t grind the IS-7 line already, and don’t have free XP, it’s the same gun you’ll be using on the stock ST-I at tier 9 😂

[swift oracle]

Nice. Already using it.

[lyric oriole]

Stock tanks build character

The most important stat in the game

[plucky summit]

Stock KV-3 building the character of T-150

[lyric oriole]

Stock KV-3 isn't bad at all

Stock ST-I

KV-4 oddly feels like it's always stock even when it's not

[plucky summit]

The gun is so inaccurate that it feels like a 50% crew operates it

At least it got buffed at all

[lyric oriole]

I run the stock 107 on my KV-4 mostly

The top 107 feels awful

[manic carbon]

I've driven a fully stock ST-I 50% crew before

an interesting experience

pretty sure I could have gone faster in a T95

or turned at least

[plucky summit]

Dang, how do you manage? The much less pen + less accuracy should be killing you

[lyric oriole]

@manic carbon try playing the Cruiser 2 in the tutorial

It will make low DPM tanks seem amazing

[plucky summit]

I thought the tutorial consisted of Jumbo, T-34-85, and Tiger I now

[manic carbon]

The cracked tutorial tiger

[amber ingot]

@dreamy osprey are you a 53tp fan or skoda enjoyer?

[manic carbon]

Wargaming should give me it for normal games

[plucky summit]

They fr just downtiered Tiger I and called it a day 💀

[manic carbon]

if they really wanted to meme on new players, should have given them a cracked KV-2 152mm

[plucky summit]

By downtiered I mean they buffed it then downtiered it

My mistake, it's a Type 58, not a T-34-85
Wait, there's 4 now?

[dreamy osprey]

Centurion 5/1

[manic carbon]

Are you sure it was not a T-34 tank? I thought it was considering they went for the well known historical tanks for tutorial

[violet timber]

I'm pretty sure it's a t-34-85

[amber ingot]

no if you have to choose between 53tp and skoda, what is it?

[dreamy osprey]

Neither

[plucky summit]

This is the thorn in my side rn

[manic carbon]

what is that camo

looks like my mw2 old camo guns

[dreamy osprey]

i hate both of them equally. because both of them don't have mobility. If i had to chose a heavy tank it would be Chieftain/T95

[plucky summit]

The camo convinces me that it's a tutorial tnak
Aside from 1943 DPM, 1050HP, and a VERY accurate gun

[grim sorrel]

you mean the obj 260 right...

[plucky summit]

😀❔

[dreamy osprey]

Probably the chinese server tutorial tank

[dreamy osprey]

Chieftain Mk.6 or Super Conq

I am follower of the hulldown temple

[plucky summit]

Oh that would make sense

[manic carbon]

your trolling isn't very good

[plucky summit]

Now that's a total misplay

[dreamy osprey]

not the first time chinese server assets made it to the other server

[grim sorrel]

its called joking with someone about favourite tank types

[dreamy osprey]

well sparta is here.

[plucky summit]

Well I'm just using blitzhangar for this, I never knew about Type until now

[solid gate]

@grim sorrel Words can't describe how little I appreciate being pinged for this trivial crap.

[amber ingot]

is blitzhangar dead?

[fleet berry]

SplicxrTV#5703 was muted

[solid gate]

Beat me to it.

[plucky summit]

Yeah, blitzhangar is a museum now 😔

[manic carbon]

'look son, there is the great update of 5.5'

[plucky summit]

"great"
Now when I pull T18 in TRs everyone gets confused

[amber ingot]

everyone who aproves 5.5 is a npc, change my mind

[manic carbon]

I was fine with the part where they toned down obnoxious seal clubbing tanks

not the part where they removed a bunch of tanks though

[plucky summit]

The funniest thing about IS-2S is that the shields don't even help

[manic carbon]

paper mache shields

just for show

[plucky summit]

Has M-IV-Y come out yet? Never seen one

[dreamy osprey]

yeah its out

[plucky summit]

Oh it's a 1240 burst that you wait 22.5s to dump LOL

IS-3 Defender but you feel less deadly but far safer

[dreamy osprey]

Not so sure about the safer part

[plucky summit]

I guess 267mm armor isn't that great when you could be half as tall

[distant nymph]

wait how is the M-IV's autoloader structured precisely? (Like how many shells, intraclip, clip reload, damage per shot etc.)

[plucky summit]

4 x 310, 7.5s inter, like 13.3s clip load
Yes, with vents, I'll take it to the grave

[distant nymph]

this is one weeeeird clip. It's like the Italian TDs in PC WoT

[dreamy osprey]

I mean after one clip. you are more likely to die because some tanks have faster reload with the same damage than your interclip

[distant nymph]

thanks, now I know what their weakness is and know how to fight if I come across one (they're really rare aren't they?)

[plucky summit]

Hold on, there's a sub-7.5s 105mm in tier 8?
Excluding TDs?

[dreamy osprey]

have to check again but if you exclude tds there's not that many tanks

maybe one or three

literally the first tank in my line up

[plucky summit]

7.58s is the closest the heavies get, with Chi-Se and Tiger II

[dreamy osprey]

Tiger 2 with the 105 and DPM setup

yeah i found that one as well

there's the T-44-100 with its 100 if that counts at 7.58 as well

[plucky summit]

There's T-44-100 with 280 for 7.58s, and AP AMX 30 presents 280 per 7.16s

[dreamy osprey]

AP AMX 30 isn't out though yet

[plucky summit]

I think it deserves it 😌

[fast breach]

Charioteer?

[dreamy osprey]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

that's a TD

There's Jgd tiger 8.8 with 5.5 sec reload on its 105 if we count TDs

[fast breach]

Feels like a medium td hybrid imo

[dreamy osprey]

still a td lol

[plucky summit]

Given the armor and HP, I say it’s a light more than a medium

[dreamy osprey]

5.8s on 8.8 jg tiger

not 5.5 that's my bad

[fast breach]

Yep true

[plucky summit]

The number haunts us to this day 💀

[wanton marlin]

Love it. Can trick enemy into thinking “he has a 105 mm so he’s gonna take 7+ second to reload” and BAM I slap em again for 350

[dreamy osprey]

yeah lol

[fast breach]

Miss the old t82

[kind flicker]

same, i have it and it sucks now

[dreamy osprey]

it almost has the leo 1 dpm at tier 8. so if you manage to get into a position that thing's a monster you don't want to face

[plucky summit]

Oh boy, I love curving my 20 pen HE shell 5 meters above my target so I can hit him

[fast breach]

Old low tier machine guns aswell
T2, T7 car, etc

[plucky summit]

I wish T-46 would get three shots of 60 instead of two of 75

[fast breach]

That thing was a legend back in the days, platoons of it could finish full hp tanks

[plucky summit]

Pop, pop, pop.
Pop, pop, pop.
Gets T82’d

[fast breach]

How about the good ol' hetzer

[plucky summit]

Good ol 6mm rear, iirc

[fast breach]

Lel

[dreamy osprey]

Pz II J

[plucky summit]

Pz. II J is still cracked to me

[fast breach]

Was it changed? Or did wg buff the low tiers' armor?

[plucky summit]

Pz. II J had its penetration doubled lol, if anything, other tanks got what appeared to be an armor nerf

[dreamy osprey]

it got a slap on its wrist for getting the pen of ke ni otsu

its basically ke ni otsu atm but with the mobility of a maus

[fast breach]

These old low tier nemesises xd

[plucky summit]

If the clan event applied to tier 3, you’ll know who it is when you see a II J rolling up

[kind flicker]

bro ki ni otsu is overpowered, it has higher dpm that a t6

[plucky summit]

It had nothing on Cruiser II during introduction 💀

[kind flicker]

yep

matter of fact i encounter a LTP for the first time in tier 3 grinding for foch

[plucky summit]

Wow you really don’t wanna dish out a little fXP for the low tiers, huh?

[kind flicker]

i didnt have much and needed a tiny bit for sau 40

i didnt want to use my gold certificate

[dreamy osprey]

umm have you seen the pen on it?

[plucky summit]

I wish blitzhangar had a page before Update 4.4, so I could see how cracked Cruiser II was 😔

[kind flicker]

48mm 51 with cali

[swift oracle]

Man KV-3 is a beast

[lone monolith]

Someone has this legendary camo for WT?

[steel fossil]

That looks epic

[fast breach]

That will definitely look more gorgeous with PBR, hope the same goes for the E75 with its garm camo when it gets PBR aswell

[lone monolith]

True

[graceful wedge]

140 or t62a

[misty wing]

WT already has PBR, unless you're referring to the fact that he has his graphics down

[fast breach]

The latter

[lilac mica]

Both

[misty wing]

140 because it has PBR

[misty wing]

yes

I would definitely turn on PBR if your device can run it

[balmy compass]

It doesn’t look as good as I thought
I can see there isn’t any PBR but still

[misty wing]

what

[balmy compass]

I thought the camo would look cooler

Tbh, I wonder what the decals look like on the stock turret

[misty wing]

something like this

no dragon I guess

[balmy compass]

Looks better without the dragons imo

[misty wing]

I think it needs the dragons to fulfill the theme properly

to give off that evil medieval vibe

[balmy compass]

The dragon doesn’t look right to me

[valid gale]

It should have been more gothic themed

[balmy compass]

I agree

[misty wing]

how would they even do that

[valid gale]

This is more Celtic but it still fits considering all the other recent German skins have Norse names

[balmy compass]

What does Jäger mean?

[misty wing]

hunter

[balmy compass]

Oh wait
Jagd is short for Jäger isn’t it

[misty wing]

it's a form of it I guess
But the earlier german TDs were named Panzerjager (literally "tank hunter") before they transitioned to Jagdpanzer

[silent knoll]

Chinese soldiers centuries ago used paper mache armor. “Hardened paper” armor was used by lower economic classes. Guess IS-2S is just a poorman’s tank too

[thorn folio]

I was extremely upset when I saw the intraclip on that thing. Like ahhh... yeah... I uh, I get to have a single shot tank with good dpm but with extra steps.

Quite honestly I don't see a point in actually touching that thing over the IS-3D because atleast the IS-3D has something enticing, which is 7.5 second 400 alpha for 3 shells.

If I want good dpm 105 on a heavy ill just play E-75TS

[misty wing]

The M-IV-Y looks super cool with the camo

[mighty void]

When will this be a legendary cammo for the amx m4 since it’s only available for it

[frank mountain]

Any Idea what this Bc lookalike is? Saw one on a profile and in game ._.

[unique drum]

How do I play 268? I’m having pretty bad games and I need to improve.

[misty wing]

it's just a new premium in testing

[frank mountain]

Ah I see thank you

[languid vector]

Starting a new heavy line, should I go:
Type 71
E100
60tp
IS4
IS7
Ease of grind/fun factor of their grind lines is taken into account

[amber ingot]

e100

[copper swan]

e 100's turret when facing 330mm+ premium ammunition penetration at non autobounce angles:

[limber berry]

😂

[sage kraken]

Would panzer 9 be a good thing for us?

[dapper violet]

It finally embodies the true german philosophy of being a giant slab of waste metal

tier 8 tog would be awesome

[sage kraken]

Oh yeah there's also Panzer 10

[limber berry]

And people think I'm fat

[humble plank]

fat panzer

[sage kraken]

New name: wahnhaftes Fett

[dapper violet]

final boss of blueprints

[amber ingot]

bro costs 7 elixir

[jade geyser]

I dunno bout yall, but the italian tds are literally the most aggravating grind out of all of them, too slow to get anywhere in reasonable time, too long of a reload for the entire mag to be of any use in the first whole minute of the match all the while getting teams that half need carrying in a tank that is the furthest from one that can. I have literally grinded every single line the game, not even exaggerating or joking, and the Italian TDs are by far the worst stock grinds I've ever had, like even stock T95 would be a better choice to a certain degree because at least you get the 120 if you maxed the T28 so you have somewhat useable dpm

[kindred wren]

Not even a blueprint. That thing was a propaganda drawing

[dapper violet]

He forgor maus line

[wanton marlin]

Probably a clan reward tank. Has more dpm than the tier 10 bat chat and 4 shells

[wanton marlin]

If this were added to blitz it would either, A: be completely over powered and broken or B: would be farmed almost instantly because of big size and slow speed

[tight storm]

@languid vector I liked tigers and E 75 but E 100 isn’t the best. 60tp and is7 are easy to ammo rack so they are also not the best option. I think you should go for is 4 its pretty strong and tanks before are really good

[violet timber]

E100 is great right now, IS-7 and 60TP ammo rack problems can be avoided with skill, and the IS-4 is good, just gets boring

[misty wing]

I would take E100, IS-7, and 60TP all over the IS-4

and IS-4 has the worst line out of all of them, no contest

[tight storm]

Line to is 4 is way much better than line to is 7 or type 71 .Just compare is 8 to St-I the second one is better in everything

(Is 8 to st-I)*

[misty wing]

is-8 > st-i and is-3 > kv-4
Chi-se is easily better than both is-3 and KV-4

[tight storm]

Is 8 has No armor same is 3

[misty wing]

but it has mobility and a better gun

[tight storm]

Is 3 gun is completely useless it has 6s aiming time and huge dispersion at 100 m . 14s and 400 dmg

But you are right with mobility

[misty wing]

KV-4 actually has longer aim time, barely better accuracy, and the same dispersion values, for only 320 alpha

[tight storm]

His reload is faster like 5 seconds

[plucky summit]

KV-4 doesn’t even have better armor, they both fail

[solid gate]

can someone pls tell me some info about the kpv 70

[plucky summit]

2.86sec reload difference

[tight storm]

Is 3 reload is 14s and kv 4 is like 9-10s

[misty wing]

IS-3's is 12.2 seconds

[plucky summit]

IS-3: 12.21s
KV-4: 9.35s

[tight storm]

@solid gate I actually get him today from mystery create😂

[solid gate]

nice

but is their anything good about it?

[tight storm]

Alfa is 560 its pretty good

[solid gate]

anything else?

[tight storm]

Actually mobility is also great but no armor

[plucky summit]

This man did NOT say ST-I > IS-7 😂

[solid gate]

ok thanks @tight storm

[tight storm]

I meant Is 8 and st-I

[plucky summit]

IS-8 is better, especially now

[tight storm]

Is 8 armor is worse same as cannon

[plucky summit]

IS-8’s gun is FAR better

[tight storm]

Its same as is 3

[plucky summit]

You’re literally wrong

[solid gate]

i just played with the kpv 70 and died the THE MAUS

[tight storm]

@plucky summit Sorry my wrong

[plucky summit]

Generally, IS-8 performs better as a medium hunter, while ST-I is forced to compete with tanks like E 75

[tight storm]

Right

[violet timber]

Both have good turrets

[misty wing]

IS-8's turret technically is a downgrade but it's still good
and the gun is tied for the best out of tier 9 heavies along with the conqueror

[wanton marlin]

Buff vindicator. Give it ap as standard shell, give it -5 degrees of gun dep, increase its speed, hull traverse rate and armor.

[shadow fable]

guys what do I buy with 13k gold

[misty wing]

if you have some premiums and want to target something you like: save it

if you don't have many premiums and just want something: unironically mystery crates. 2 bundles of 6k gold each

[shadow fable]

why the mystery crates

[misty wing]

they're great value tbh, you can farm premium time, boosters, and free xp certificates off them in addition to having a good chance to get a high tier premium

[fringe sapphire]

T54E1 is to good

Same with the t23e3

[shadow fable]

I'll just think about it soon thanks

[fringe sapphire]

I would save it for the blitz auction in December, tanks there are big discount and you can get great tanks for cheap, and you can get more tanks than buying them in the store

[misty wing]

idk last year they only sold the boring tanks

[shadow fable]

I was just thinking about that

[fringe sapphire]

But it is still a good time to get good tanks for cheap, even if they are bad or not

[shadow fable]

do you recommend tier 8 or tier 7s

[mystic sleet]

If you are looking to buy some very good tier 8 premium tanks, go for the T54e2 and (maybe) Keiler. Or you can just get the K91, or you can just save your gold for later like Yerriff said

[shadow fable]

nice but what about tier 7s are they good

[misty wing]

actually yeah keiler for 6.5k gold right now is an excellent deal

and I would suggest avoiding tier 7s like the plague

[fringe sapphire]

It depends on what tier you like better but I like tier eight

[mystic sleet]

I'd avoid getting anything below tier 8

[shadow fable]

is the e2 or the keiler good

[fringe sapphire]

But I have been doing tier nine lately so I honestly don't know

[misty wing]

they're both good. T54E2 is meta but keiler is more fun

[shadow fable]

I'm just gon search battles of it

[mystic sleet]

Tier 7 premiums have a tendency of getting stomped when down-tiered. Or at least, that what keeps happening to my premium tier 7s (except the Steyr, my beloved sneaky snake)

[obsidian mirage]

Japanese jagd tiger?

[halcyon lotus]

wtf is that 💀

[fringe sapphire]

Oh that would be probably broken if it was in blitz

[shadow fable]

wait how do I play the e2 and the keiler if I have it

[shadow fable]

that's a Japanese version of the jagdtiger

[halcyon lotus]

it just looks so cursed bro

[mystic sleet]

T54e2: hulldown, wiggle backwards and forwards, use your mobility to get into an advantageous position, aim in fully
Keiler: basic heavy tank gameplay-hide your lower plate, go hulldown, aim in fully before shooting, hide while reloading etc.

[fringe sapphire]

It looks awesome tho

[shadow fable]

what about e2 when in a close range battle or a face hug

[mystic sleet]

For facehugging, I would suggest to continuously move your turret to the left and right in order to minimise the chances of getting your cupola hit. Blocking the opponent's gun with your own could also work out

[thorny smelt]

Ho-Ri Type I left the game

[obsidian mirage]

WG add HO-NI TD with o-ni hull and HO-RO II TD with type 4 💀

[shadow fable]

guys where's the 6.5k or the 6k gold option in the shop I can't find it

[tulip knot]

Amx 13 57 is fun

[left quest]

Do you play North America or Europe, America and Asia?

[onyx raven]

That’s in PC, not Blitz

Also, funnily enough, there’s a real thing called Ho-To that the Japanese made.

Type 4 Ho-To SPG, based on the Ha-Go, armed with a 120mm Howitzer

[obsidian mirage]

So Ho-To II?

[obsidian mirage]

Remember every ,nation line have 2 HT line or TD

[balmy compass]

China sure doesn’t and neither does Japan or Britian

[onyx raven]

Huh? What does that mean?

[lilac mica]

How do I equip Obj 907 and how I play it ?

[misty wing]

Like any other med. Rammer, defense system, optics, GLD, improved assembly, engine accelerator, vstabs, repair toolbox. Consumable one is your choice

[languid vector]

#vehicles-discussion lurkers, 60tp line vs IS7 line, which is easier to grind?

[tight storm]

60 tp

[rigid thunder]

equipment/provisions is standard as per normal MT, but I personally recommend running gunpowder due to its poor shell velocity

[onyx oxide]

whats this xD

[halcyon lotus]

chinese being chinese

[patent locust]

Chinese always copy but different

[lone herald]

Since when has obj 907 improved gunpowder?

[halcyon lotus]

since 9.1

[lone herald]

Hmmm i'am Not up to date counting on Mediums

[halcyon lotus]

btw just some advice but i suggest changing your username to something else since 75% of blitz players are anti-type 71. the 20% are type 71 players and the 5% are ones that don’t care (me included)

[lone herald]

Dont care i love Type so change my mind

[halcyon lotus]

tanks better than type 71 or smth idk:

• IS-7
• WZ-113
• WZ-111 5A
• 60TP Lewandowskiego

People who hate the type 71:
70% of the playerbase

[lone herald]

Well sorry for that but Type my beloved changes first when they nerf it so hard that it isnt anymore playeble

Or i went back to jg pz e100 my old beloved big slapper

[blissful hamlet]

I use this
Now, how to play it i don't really know

[blissful hamlet]

I see people will prob spam prammo with it, 570 dmg per shot,

[rigid thunder]

tanks better than the type 71:

fixed that for you

[tepid stump]

pretty much the same thing with the SU 100Y

[halcyon lotus]

907 is a sniper tank, the tank has great camo rating, great mobility, accurate gun (and has reticle cali) and low profile makes it a great sniper.

[blissful hamlet]

Yeah

[thorny smelt]

Object 907 is more of a versatile medium tank

[blissful hamlet]

According to blitz hangar, it is good at peek-a-boo, brawling, and other things,

[thorny smelt]

Ehhh I cannot recommend BlitzHangar for those things

[rigid thunder]

playing the 907 too passively is a waste of its turret armour

[blissful hamlet]

Well, i don't know how to play with it properly yet,

[hollow belfry]

Did you read this? It literally is just drawing numbers from the tank’s stats and nothing else. I really wouldn’t rely on that tool

[fast breach]

Is7 would have difficulty penning the type unless if the player knows how to aim.
113 sure can compete with the type.
5A is a straight up no, no PEN, not strong enough armor with big cupolas.
60tp yes

[thorny smelt]

That's why I cannot rely on BlitzHangar's tactics

[fast breach]

Blitzhanger: "E100: good for long range sniping"
Campers: 🌝

[languid vector]

Any other opinions? Won't go type71 because good chance it's gonna get a nerf or shadow nerf being meta now

[vital flax]

WZ-113

[orchid palm]

Want to see a w tank

[hollow belfry]

These Sheridan and Waffle averages concern me

[orchid palm]

Yea

What’s good adt it

[hollow belfry]

Nothing. These numbers precisely are disturbingly low

[odd cove]

^

[languid vector]

While I'm not great with waffle, waffle is generally low effort and easy to score in soo...

[cerulean shell]

Hello, would it be worthwhile to sell these vehicles for 5,950 gold? I'm looking to upgrade to higher tiers in the store and they don't seem to be useful.

[hollow notch]

As long as you have played a battle in them you can reclaim them whenever for the same amount of gold you sold them for

If you are trading tanks that you don't use for a tank that you will actually use, it is 100% worth it.

[cerulean shell]

Oh, that's brilliant. I am planning to buy the T54E2 with the gold. Thanks for letting me know.

[opaque flicker]

Still very confused why the BT-7 Artillery exists

[hollow notch]

It was a fun little tank before update 5.5

[cerulean shell]

It used to be decent but haven't found it that good anymore.

[opaque flicker]

No I mean, artillary, it's an arty in blitz that acts like a regular tank

[hollow notch]

It's just a short range artillery gun slapped on a tank chassis

Not any different from an other tank with a howitzer

[opaque flicker]

Did everything in 5.5 get ruined?

[hollow notch]

Low tiers just became unplayable

[vital flax]

The funny part is that AP has lower pen than HE iirc(haven't played wot pc in a few years)

[plucky summit]

AP is better at penetrating, at least

[weak plank]

Petiton for mark 1 heavy tank respond with "🙂" if you want it back

[lime flume]

Guys, help needed. What do you think about AMX 13 57 and M41D from Black Friday deals? I want to get a nice premium light tank and they both seem like a nice option. Can you help me decide? Extra info: I'm not yet fluent with lights, so i want the tank to be good for learning, but I also want the tank to be fun to play with. AMX seems way more fun but also harder to use. Also it would be better if I could buy the least expensive tank, but if the more expensive one is better, I'm fine with that. So please help :))

[misty wing]

Neither

[lime flume]

why and what do you recommend then

[dapper violet]

amx 13 57
people say its the second most worth it tank

[lime flume]

thanks

[dapper violet]

wait for a bit more info though

The m41d looks harder...

[lime flume]

yeah i'll ask more people tho but amx is also what i want to get

[plucky summit]

It’s pointless

[weak plank]

Ur poitless >:(

[cerulean shell]

Is this vehicle still worth buying?

[weak plank]

Srry I mad.i want mk1 back bc its old and ets memories back

[dapper violet]

People say - and keep on saying that its the most worth it tank in black friday

[vital flax]

Gun handling poopoo but if you don't mind it's good

[plucky summit]

I’m afraid people spamming an emoji to a message won’t convince Wargaming

[cerulean shell]

Alright, thanks I'll definitely buy it

[cerulean shell]

Yeah, I am skeptical of it but I sold a few tier 1s for it so I won't lose anything, lol

[weak plank]

Then wg should add it back,WHY MS1 AND NO MK1

[vital flax]

I'd rather Skoda t56 if you can spare 1k more gold

[plucky summit]

Because MS-1 was the most popular, ofc

[lime flume]

So anyone else can help? M41D or AMX 13 57?

[plucky summit]

I don’t think either should be bought :p

[vital flax]

AMX is considered more fun but maid is a better performer overall

[lime flume]

thank y'all, i think i'll get the AMX

[weak plank]

Bc of?

[plucky summit]

Fun

[violet timber]

None of those are better than the type

[jade geyser]

Nah fam, I did Maus grind and got to Maus, this is worse, easily, stock vs stock with 75% crew, Italian TDs are worse

[graceful wedge]

how come t34 shielded is so good at hulldown even though it has so little gun elevation

[tepid stump]

stronk turret

[graceful wedge]

i mean the gun elevates lower than it should

[plucky summit]

It’s gun depression if it looks down

[tepid stump]

It's 8 degrees, isn't it?
It's quite good

[graceful wedge]

oh i tought it was 5 degrees 😟

[rotund musk]

why bat-chat don't have e legendary 'bat-camouflage'? that would be a amazing joke

[lone herald]

T34 and t34-s have same Depression

[balmy compass]

T34 actually has 10 gun dep (American tank)

[lone herald]

:bruh:

[tulip knot]

He meant t-34, the tier 5 Russian tech tree medium tank originally produced in 1940, with over 84,000 built

[empty helm]

My man forgor the "-"

[oblique sorrel]

I would like a vehical with very high suspension, so high that it bounces whilst driving🧐

[balmy compass]

Yes I know, I like pointing out how the T34 and T-34 are different

[solid gate]

It’s called a jeep

[spare cosmos]

Looking for advice : T110E4 or 60TP ? Thanks

[plucky summit]

60TP: Hulldown whenever possible, and try not avoid towns without cover

[spare cosmos]

Why is it better than the E4, better protection?

[tulip knot]

I figured I was just being a d!ck

[meager cedar]

TDs are generally more team dependent and the E4 cheeks are too weak

[spare cosmos]

ok ty

[pliant pike]

rather than the cheek, the enemy aim for the cupola

[sharp tartan]

can anyone give me tips for the vk 100.01 (p) i just got it and im doing really badly im trying to angle but im just always getting cornered or just getting attacked by like half the team should i play away from the battle or smth

[lament dove]

Very high quality verison

[lone herald]

XD

[oblique sorrel]

80% win rate on E100 with 400 ms/ping

[hollow notch]

Use it purely as an alpha slapper.
Just because you have a chunk of armor doesn't mean you need to be sitting and taking hits

(While sidescraping) back out of cover keeping the hatch hidden, blast an enemy heavy for 460, drive forward back into cover.

If you take a hit you have the hp pool to make a winning trade in almost every scenario.

Not getting shot is the best armor

[fallow halo]

just grind the jag line its OP

[plucky summit]

So E100

[fallow halo]

whats the best autoloader line to grind?

[sharp tartan]

ok thx ill try this

[safe cedar]

American heavies.

[fallow halo]

nice

[violet timber]

TVP

[languid halo]

yes

[kind flicker]

why are there so many t34 sheildeds now? was there a free giveaway or something?

[empty helm]

The giveaway was 4-9? months ago

[cerulean shell]

Best tier V premium in the shop right now?

[empty helm]

Save your gold to buy a tier 8 ht

[cerulean shell]

Hello, yes. I bought the T54E2

[empty helm]

Have fun bouncing shots with your turret

[cerulean shell]

I am looking for my friend to get a cheap tank to get started

Would the Excelsior be a good option? Or is there another good tier V heavy?

[empty helm]

But t54e2 is a cheap tank

[kind flicker]

get a t1 heavy and kv1

[cerulean shell]

So should my friend ignore the cheap 1k gold tier V premiums in the shop right now?

[kind flicker]

yes, save your gold for something good

te t14, matilda bp and matilda 4 and excelsior arnt worth it

[cerulean shell]

Alright, thanks for the advice. 🫡

[kind flicker]

@cerulean shell if you were to get anything, this is the best choice in my opinion
all 3 are good tanks

[cerulean shell]

[empty helm]

16.99$ 😐

[obsidian mirage]

I mean so that's maybe possible Japanese line can have 2 line destroyer or 2 line Heavy

[fallow halo]

IS7 line is horrid, i quit on the IS 3 bc its gun is an absolute pile of useless garbage

[halcyon lotus]

is7 is horrible? what are you on? also imo the gun depression is workable. if it had 8 degrees gun dep it would be broken.

[violet timber]

He said the IS-7 line was horrid, not the IS-7

[thorny smelt]

Context matters @languid vector

[languid vector]

I'm basically picking up a new heavy line, I want something that's a very traditional heavy eg. low speed, heavy armor, high alpha as I already have a lot of maneuver tanks. But I wanna grind to at least tier 8 fairly easily and quickly, so bad stock grinds is a no no for me

[languid vector]

Emil line seems pretty good. Batchat line supposedly good too. If you have the gold, get yourself a defender mk1 too, it's the best tier 8 autoloader and it's friendly to people who are learning how to play autoloaders.

[fallow halo]

i dont have any gold, just spent it all on free xp lmao

[languid vector]

💀

[fallow halo]

it was only like 550 or something, im not gonna wait to save it up

[languid vector]

You can get 50 gold a day though.

[fallow halo]

?

[inland osprey]

Emil line auto(re)loader mechanic changes starting from tier 9 tho, you'll have to get used to it

[languid vector]

Watch ads. You get 10 gold for each one and you can watch 5 times a day

[fallow halo]

oh im on PC so i dont get those

[languid vector]

download it on phone and watch ads. Also try to finish the operations as even without the premium pass completing a operation gets you 500 gold.

[fallow halo]

oh i guess i could do that....

hold on its downloading.....

[misty wing]

Nah T26E4 and CDC both suck

[lilac mica]

What’s the most accurate tank in Blitz ?

[hollow notch]

Exactly vk100 is a tier 8 e100, not a maus.

[plucky summit]

I gree

[inland osprey]

Is it worth grinding Minotauro if I already have Kranvagn

[plucky summit]

Nope

[inland osprey]

eh, ok then
It's effectively a 2 round autoreloader anyway

[plucky summit]

CDC’s fun as a medic to a rammer toonmate in Mad Games

[tulip knot]

Pre 9.1 t62a

[sweet citrus]

Is the KV-2 Gun better then the SU-152 gun

[lone herald]

Heck no

[agile ingot]

is Krupp-38D based on Hetzer body ?

[solid wolf]

Guys is 60tp still worth it? Or i just go type 71

[lone herald]

After my watches jes

[blissful hamlet]

60tp still good

[solid wolf]

I see okay.. hayst tho i dont want to go the medium line is garbo hayst making me stop playing the polish line that tuer 5 swede medium is annoying

[spice raptor]

agree

[solid wolf]

Yea that swede tier 5 is in

Its annoying aaaa

[velvet timber]

anyone got any thoughts on T34 Premium american heavy? Looking to get a T8 from the black Friday deals

[vagrant frost]

How long are da adds

[solid wolf]

Is minatouro line worth??

[vagrant frost]

Dunno

[languid vector]

30 seconds ish
@Gus.#1288 It's nigh invincible hulldown, has good pen and decent alpha, slightly sluggish reload and mediocre-decent gun handling. Like most American hulldown heavies the hull is made of soggy cardboard, though. If you're good at hulldown "sniping" it's a good pick.

@velvet timber ^

[rigid thunder]

No

[median snow]

leo 1

[meager cedar]

Just get shark/skoda or keiler

[vapid condor]

is t55a worth??

[solid wolf]

No bad tank poop

[vapid condor]

thanks!

[opaque flicker]

Surprised there isn't a tier IV collectable like the Sau 40 but with a working turret

Honestly it would probably work like a Matilda with a weaker turret and larger weakspots on the hull

[lyric oriole]

And weaker gun?

That gun is about 15-20 millimeter

We already have Matilda but bad

It's AC I Sentinel

[opaque flicker]

Looked into it, Somua S35 and S40 are practically the SAu 40 with a working turret

[lyric oriole]

Also that

But to be fair they do look different

So it's not initially obvious

[opaque flicker]

Yeah the hull is similar but it appears to be altered near the top half of the hull

Also the SAu 40 went 45 km/h on road

[lyric oriole]

It is neat seeing all the alterations though, like Alecto being a repurposed Tetrarch hull

[opaque flicker]

It is? I never noticed that

[lyric oriole]

Ye

[opaque flicker]

Also this as a premium vehicle, what tier, and how fast

French Superheavy "Char 2C"

[tepid stump]

probably 20-25 km/h

[lyric oriole]

First clue is the tracks, then the engine, of course you can also verify these things online too

[opaque flicker]

Probably not that fast, this superheavy was developed in WW1

[lyric oriole]

Post WW1

[tepid stump]

5 km/h an hour 💀

[lyric oriole]

I'll be generous and give it 8 kph off road and 12 on road

[opaque flicker]

Yeah for how heavy, old, and large it is, it would be lucky to go 15 km/h, while redlining it

Then again what tier? Too slow for Tier VIII, would it be Tier VI or VII?

Its absolutely massive so itll have no camouflage whatsoever

[plucky summit]

Tier I

[lyric oriole]

Tier 3

[plucky summit]

Großtraktor’s new rival?

[lyric oriole]

Pretty much

[opaque flicker]

Except it's about as large as the maus

[lyric oriole]

I was trying to type it out and apparently Google took away the S from the Spanish keyboard

[opaque flicker]

Also it uses 2 engines, imagine fighting the tank, getting a good shot on its engine only for it to keep going

[lyric oriole]

"keep going"

[opaque flicker]

2 km/h, I was about to say

[plucky summit]

Reverse track system, forward!

[opaque flicker]

It used 2 guns, a 75mm and a 155mm, that better be a 30 second reload because itll one shot everything

[plucky summit]

Ditch the 155mm

[opaque flicker]

It was in service up until 1940

[tepid stump]

Use the 155mm

[balmy compass]

Make it completely fixed so you can’t aim it

[tepid stump]

make it have worse accuracy than the T49 💀

[plucky summit]

155mm in tier 3 should never exist, it’ll just be either useless or terribly broken

[opaque flicker]

Oh nevermind it has no armor, its literally an oversized GröbTraktor

[balmy compass]

Both 😎

[opaque flicker]

Bro the equivalent of a 183 using Hesh at tier III 💀

[tepid stump]

pretty much a tier 3 version of the 183

[opaque flicker]

Keep the 75mm, but knowing that can do like 160-225 damage, keeps its reload like 16 or 17 seconds

[tepid stump]

Then make the accuracy worse than a T49 that has 50% crew and the doubleshot ability

[balmy compass]

Sooooooo
Caliban

[plucky summit]

Or never add it to the game

[opaque flicker]

No add it to the game, ruin low tiers again

[tepid stump]

don't want another Ke-Ni incident 💀

[balmy compass]

Gargoyle and High Score already do that
Luchs too

[plucky summit]

This is tier 3, mind you

[opaque flicker]

Luchs is fast but its rotation is slower than a heavy

[plucky summit]

Luchs is still pretty good, the DPM is the best while the 180 clip potential supports a trading playstyle

[opaque flicker]

Imagine turning a corner in a Pz II J or whatever, and you get shot at by the biggest tank in the game, deleting half of your hitpoints

[plucky summit]

Oh yeah like it’s gonna pen a Pz. II J 🗿

[opaque flicker]

75mm

[sly laurel]

Which tier is pz. II J?

[tepid stump]

3, I'm fairly certain

[plucky summit]

75mm derp gun

[sly laurel]

sheesh

[opaque flicker]

Premium ammo:

[plucky summit]

Premium derp ammo

[opaque flicker]

Premium derp ammo is heat rounds

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, that shell type that gets the full disadvantage against angled armor?

[sly laurel]

Ah yes that one round that always hits the smallest bit of fence.

[opaque flicker]

Pz II J may be one of the most armored tier III's, but it still has flat spots

[plucky summit]

Flat spots that you can angle 😎

[sly laurel]

T49 without full crew xp is painful to shoot 😔

[opaque flicker]

Pz II J is leopard and Tiger I

[plucky summit]

😀❔

[opaque flicker]

Machine gun and armor

[plucky summit]

I’d say Luchs and Tiger I, for the sake of shape

[opaque flicker]

Imagine going against what probably has the most HP at tier III, the biggest thing on the battlefield, and with a gun that can slap you like a KV-2 3 tiers lower

[plucky summit]

And now imagine that never being added to the game 😳

[opaque flicker]

That's why it's a discussion

[tepid stump]

The Chicken Lord dishing out mad stuff

[lyric oriole]

Pz. IV A buff when

[opaque flicker]

Same thing should've happened with the 183

[lyric oriole]

People complain about the 183 all the time

If they didn't have 183 to complain about they would just complain about Jageroo

[sly laurel]

It's more like a jg pz 4 than a kv2 ngl

[plucky summit]

No…

[opaque flicker]

183 and Jageroo are different, one doesnt shred 1/3 of your health with its premium shell

[lyric oriole]

Instead the other constantly hits for 500 when being greedy

[opaque flicker]

Jageroo RNG doesnt exist

[lyric oriole]

Huh?

I'm talking 183

Most people already can't aim, let alone pen HE consistently

[opaque flicker]

At tier X and can't aim, shockingly more common than it looks

Even without premium ammo it can still take a chunk of your health away

[lyric oriole]

500?

That's not that threatening

[opaque flicker]

930

[lyric oriole]

Ah yes, because there are so many people that just use AP constantly in 183

[sly laurel]

Connecting any shell with 183 is still satisfying

[lyric oriole]

AP shell to track

[sly laurel]

Pain.

[plucky summit]

I use AP like prammo

[lyric oriole]

I use the AP constantly

[opaque flicker]

Yes

[lyric oriole]

Bruh

Hardly anyone does

Best way to use it is spam AP

[sly laurel]

If u dont pen the hesh then what's the point of the 183mm

[lyric oriole]

But think I've only seen one user do that

[opaque flicker]

Then why am I getting slapped by 183mm regular shells

[plucky summit]

Cause you’re heavily armored 😎

[lyric oriole]

The HESH is used best on Unaware targets, hail Mary's and situations where there won't be repercussions for splashing

[opaque flicker]

T110E4

[lyric oriole]

One of the worst tank in tier 10

E4

[plucky summit]

Yup, E4 is AP material

[sly laurel]

Then again getting any shot in without losing half the health pool is a hard time in the first place

[lyric oriole]

I call E4 HESH material

[plucky summit]

I guess it depends whether you’re in the open ig

[lyric oriole]

If it's full health I'll go for the AP though to guarantee the 2 shot kill

[opaque flicker]

You cant Hesh the cupola on the E4, that's for sure

[lyric oriole]

But that lower plate

And any of it's side

[opaque flicker]

That's any tank

[sly laurel]

What are u guy's opinion on chaffee?

[clear junco]

AMX 12 t is better— you’re welcome for my input ;)

[sly laurel]

It's a lovely tank ngl

[lyric oriole]

E 4 can't fully rotate the turret, neither can 183, in a one on 1 fight it comes down to sheer damage

You can even stall

[sly laurel]

Then again using other light tanks makes chaffee feel even more wholesome to use, it's like a weird nostalgia

[opaque flicker]

E4 does have more turret traverse, armor, and around the same speed

It may not be fully rotating, but its still more than the 183

[tepid stump]

don't know what to feel

[lyric oriole]

Armor is negligible in a 1 on 1 TD fight

Frankly I'd say they are on even ground

[opaque flicker]

E4 against 268 however

I've 1v1'd the 268 and it honestly comes down to skill

[lyric oriole]

268 would kick the E4 in that weakly armored engine vent easily

268 is just way faster

[opaque flicker]

E4 is more meneurvable in regular standards, considering the turret

I've had a 268 try to traverse around to my rear before, but I've managed to hit its tracks

[lyric oriole]

The turret only has about 18° of turret traverse

And 90 to both sides

[opaque flicker]

Turning the hull and turret at the same time greatly increases the maneuverability

[plucky summit]

Any player that I see not combining traverses is immediately a noob to me

[lyric oriole]

Of course

268 has 18 kph of reverse speed so even getting to a point of getting behind it is going to be a chore

Youl need to chew through 2 repair kits and also get behind it with slow speed

The only TD E4 has a chance against honestly is 263

And that's purely because 263 is so inaccurate the armor might work

[opaque flicker]

I've fought a lot of TD's and won in the E4

[plucky summit]

In a non-1v1 situation

[opaque flicker]

No, because I know how to play the game

[lyric oriole]

Then why play E4

[plucky summit]

And they didn’t…? o.o

[opaque flicker]

Because i like it

[plucky summit]

E1hundy

[lyric oriole]

Then you would love 60TP or E 100

[opaque flicker]

I've grinded for the E100, might start for the 60Toiletpaper

Havent gotten the E100 yet

Right now I'm actually grinding for both the Yoh and Foch 155

And I gotta say I love the bathtub

[lyric oriole]

You are going to hate AC 48

[opaque flicker]

Probably

[lyric oriole]

Even after the DPM buff (which was super minor) it's pretty awful still

Horrible accuracy, horrible DPM (still), trash armor and camo

[opaque flicker]

So a completely team reliant TD

[lyric oriole]

Pretty much

Even I struggle to win in it

Carrying potential is pretty low

[opaque flicker]

I played the T28 Prot stock, I can work with that

[lyric oriole]

The heavy meta killed most tier 8 TDs

[tidal turtle]

i have a t99

[dapper violet]

Id say the jag ii is fine

[tidal turtle]

lol

[lyric oriole]

JG 2 has poor camo, poor module durability and poor HP

[dapper violet]

Hmm.. and… ye tier 8 tds are dead - jag goes at light speed

[plucky summit]

S35 CA my beloved 🤤

[opaque flicker]

Bathtub

[lyric oriole]

If you want an actually good tier 8 TD in the tech tree the WZ-111 FT is what you want

[dapper violet]

And has hilarious hulldown armor that is only countered by shooting down the gun

[lyric oriole]

JG 2 rarely gets to hull down positions it can use

[dapper violet]

Toaster 🤤 - I wish I had it

[opaque flicker]

I think the S35 CA could use a fully upgraded gun buff, the stock gun is stronger

[plucky summit]

No.

[lyric oriole]

I'm still ranked #1 in toaster and I hope it stays that way

[plucky summit]

S35 CA is the best t5 TD imo 😋
The alpha and gun maneuverability make it unique and strong

[lyric oriole]

I prefer angry Connor

[opaque flicker]

Backwards tank

[dapper violet]

Imagine a Vk 100 with the jgpz ii s gun

[lyric oriole]

I mean

It basically has that

[plucky summit]

Jg. Pz. II?

[opaque flicker]

Imagine the Jagdpanzer E100 got replaced by the Jagdpanther E100

[dapper violet]

It has 26 less pen it’s agony

[lyric oriole]

I think he means jadgpanther 2

220 pen is plenty in tier 8

Even tier 9

[dapper violet]

Well I agree - the tanks meh and I enjoy losing brain cells with it

[opaque flicker]

Name a tank that you wish would get buffed

[dapper violet]

Vk 100 maus or maus Chen

[plucky summit]

AMX CDC, I want more DPM 😎
Make it a better medic

[dapper violet]

Sure that wouldn’t hurt until you’re being circled

[opaque flicker]

Name a tank that you wish would get nerfed

[lyric oriole]

AMX CDC bad

[plucky summit]

Hence I want buff, silly

[lyric oriole]

30mm armor all around

Best I can do

[plucky summit]

If it’s gonna be a slower RU 251, I want the DPM

[lyric oriole]

Lights and heavies only sorry

Mediums only get soft stats or unimportant buffs

[plucky summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/975251424671846500/975251809004306452/Screen_Shot_2021-07-18_at_7.23.44_PM.png

That reminds me

[lyric oriole]

All the stats none of the perks

If you are a TD applying for a buff you'll need to put a major attribute to nerf as well, but it has to be enough that the buff becomes questionable.

[plucky summit]

Not that I want it to have >= DPM as RU, since the turret and tracks work in blocking some HE, but some more would be appreciated 😔

But hey, it was a free tank, so oh well

[opaque flicker]

Opinions on the D-Max

[odd cove]

depressing

[opaque flicker]

That was terrible

[odd cove]

lol. it’s good if you can make use of its gd

[balmy compass]

It can’t be as bad as all those Ducker Max memes mad it to be

[wanton marlin]

Is good. Has good armor mobility and pen and dpm just lacks damage per shot to compete with other tier 7-8 heavy tanks

[mystic sleet]

Can be very fun. Overall, it's a nice tier 6 premium td

[scarlet kernel]

So apparently people are still thinking mino is op, so here are some ways to f̶i̶x ̶y̶o̶u̶r ̶s̶k̶i̶l̶l ̶i̶s̶s̶u̶e help you counter it

1st a good mino player knows the tank doesn't do well without a team or proper backup. If you decide to engage a mino you're basically trying to fight it's team. Kill the team first then go ahead and destroy the mino

2nd if you can't pen it just simply do something called stop fighting, the tank is slow and it's side armor is weak, and it's extremely flameable no need to go to the back the side will do

3rd count the shot

4th STOP ENGAGING IT FRONTALLY

Mino is pretty much imagine a wall with booby traps resting on a wooden support. Just try not to get in the trap and focus on the support and it will fall easily

[violet timber]

Wow, you described how to fight any heavily armored but slow tank, good job.

[scarlet kernel]

Yep

[balmy compass]

Shame people can’t read

[copper swan]

would you recommend players to grind minotauro or type 71 line, if not, which ones are best?

[plucky summit]

E100

[scarlet kernel]

Type 71 is still pretty cracked i think. Mino needs patience to play, but i've fxp the entire of both lines so can't say any about t5-9

[copper swan]

e 50 m for beginners or no

[plucky summit]

No

[vestal belfry]

is4 or is7
currently researched for the is and kv4 im just too lazy to purchase it

also whats with some tds being just hts with big guns

the armor on the italian tds dont make sense to me

[eager temple]

Agree theres only a little spot to pen then on the front if you are using your average tank

[digital zealot]

WZ-111 is too weak

I do great in it but the armor and gun depression just isnt great

[misty wing]

They (the tier 10 at least) are garbage at everything else, and even the armor falls apart against high pen guns

[digital zealot]

just load gold on the tier 10

[vestal belfry]

im not even at t10 but im kinda struggling with the cc 54 or something i forgor

also im tryna save gold to get some high pen guns or mbts

for context im currently on a kv 3

the t5 and 6 were ok to fight against but when the t7 kicks in everything just goes really bad for me

the armor dosent make sense for a t7 it looks like someone gave a progretto 46 an armor of a sidescraping maus

[misty wing]

You can buy gold ammo with credits

[halcyon lotus]

i’m really enjoying the tvp t50/51 rn, but is there any t10 that plays similar to the tvp but more aggresive?

[odd cove]

depends on tank type

[halcyon lotus]

medium or light autoloader or autoreloader

[tulip knot]

Of all the meds, yes

[solid gate]

Where can i buy my sold premium tanks back?

[safe marten]

My first ever WOTB video 😅

https://youtu.be/hDhNIKPJ0Bg

[sleek apex]

If you sold the tank(s) for less than 90d ago, you can restore them from the tank restoration feature ingame at the very right of tank selection bar next to the "Buy more garage slots" button. If it is over 90 days ago then you would have to restore it/them via VRT on the player support website.

You can only restore tanks that you sold before the feature was added ingame via VRT.

[vagrant frost]

How do I get to E 100 if the successor tanks suck (Tiger2,E 75

[limpid ether]

Bruh as someone who grinded(and enjoyed) the Tiger 2 and E75, maybe it's you.

[solid gate]

Smells like skill issue

[hollow belfry]

^ Indeed sounds like skill issue, the tanks before the E100 are both good and very straightforward to play

[mystic sleet]

Unlike the E100 (at least from what I've heard)

[distant nymph]

Any opinions on the WZ-110? When it was released it was absolutely OP but several nerfs and power creep later and I think it’s just a joke now

[copper swan]

it's a worse object 252u

[distant nymph]

I like it has a 100mm gun and it’s pretty decent. The tank though just doesn’t seem to work even if its stats aren’t all that bad

[agile ingot]

Italy TD succ

[alpine aspen]

🦃

i think every tank is kinda"fine" tho

what tank do you guys think it is the worst in its tier tho

[tepid stump]

if you don't know how to utilize the autoloader guns/don't know how to hulldown then yeah

[agile ingot]

CC 1 Mk 2 is the worse t9 td, tbh its slow, bad rotating spd, slow reload for 1st shell, especially when it gets ass kicked into wall it became useless turret TD

[lyric oriole]

The tier 9 is actually good

[agile ingot]

great penetration and damage, yes
i once got 4005 full hp by using 3 shells of HE

[lyric oriole]

And decent armor with 13° of gun depression

[agile ingot]

yeah good for ridge line, but bad speed and turning my god

[shadow fable]

guys what's the best or most profitable tank in Christmas auction soon

[lyric oriole]

It's a heavy tank destroyer so... I don't know what you expect

[lyric oriole]

Nobody knows exactly what's going to be in the auction just yet

Remember the question and ask again when it's closer

[shadow fable]

then what's the best or most profitable last year

[lyric oriole]

If I remembered what was in the auction I might have an answer for that, either way it doesn't matter because every years it's been different with only a handful of returners

[shadow fable]

🗿 I'm just gon search on yt

[lyric oriole]

The only things you can really count on being in the auction is Drac, Fury, and one of the defenders

[shadow fable]

why drac and fury

[vestal belfry]

no mbt?

[shadow fable]

leopard 1 or the centurion is one of them

[vestal belfry]

i meant in auction i want an mbt 70 in my garage

[lyric oriole]

They are popular "rare" tanks

Again, can't say for sure what will or won't be in the auction

[shadow fable]

does it mean they're good?

[lyric oriole]

I don't think MBT 70 has been in the auction before

Drac is decent, but not anywhere near it's glory days in 2016

Fury is just a reskinned Easy 8

[shadow fable]

bru then it'll have a big chance to get into the auction just like last year

[outer plume]

What do you mean?

[solid gate]

Charioteer based

[agile ingot]

Ho ri t2 t9 Jp td are good? the gun is decent

[rough citrus]

Should wotb make this?

It’s IS-2/152

[dapper violet]

I want new tds… but not that. That’s an abomination

[empty helm]

Chinese engineering at its best

[misty wing]

It looks pretty cool

[mystic sleet]

Nah, not really, seeing how Su-152 and Isu-152 exist. Also, we already have a Smasher, we don't need another one.

[rough citrus]

It’s an heavy tank

[mystic sleet]

So is the Smasher

[rough citrus]

Everyone vote the tank

Thumbs up should wotb or wg make this it or thumb down should wotb or wg should not make the tank?

[fickle ridge]

go ahead wg, add it, im waiting

obese amx 40

an absolute chonk of a tank i love it

[sharp tartan]

these dang kv 2s keep getting put in my match and they keep on 1 shotting me for reference im tier v

[violet timber]

Tiger 2 is a very good heavy tank, E75 is one of the best heavy tanks tier for tier in the entire game

[winged basin]

Sorry

[plucky summit]

The messages below that may give a hint

[outer plume]

Soviet t-35 as a light tank?